re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Even if you consider the two rates even, which I’ll give you, you still end up with the point that California’s far stricter gun laws have not given it a lower murder rate.

1) Even ‘strict’ gun laws in the US are very liberal, and by design do very little to reduce the number of guns in circulation.

2) The free flow across state lines makes comparison of gun laws a trivial affair, as the availability of guns is not stemmed at all.

3) All available evidence demonstrates that places with more firearms have both more firearm deaths and more homicides.