re: #12 Walter L. Newton

I’m glad they found these mistakes before it was too late… from the Guardian…

In a statement the authors of the paper said: “Since publication of our paper we have become aware of two mistakes which impact the detailed estimation of future sea level rise. This means that we can no longer draw firm conclusions regarding 21st century sea level rise from this study without further work.

“One mistake was a miscalculation; the other was not to allow fully for temperature change over the past 2,000 years. Because of these issues we have retracted the paper and will now invest in the further work needed to correct these mistakes.”

This is good science. The ability to admit mistakes and attempt to make the corrections needed.

You are right. This is good science.

Just so long as you are clear that the retracted paper, was one that said the low ball estimates of the IPCC were likely correct, that the rest of the science world was screaming that of course sea level rises would likely be much greater - because, as I went over and over agin at the time, of non-linear melt rates and the fact that the ice sheets were not properly taken into account by IPCC and that neither paper (IPCC or this one) adequately took methane release into account.

At the time there were posters here who took this paper as G-d’s pwn truth and called me endlessly alarmist, even though I was bringing the rest of the facts that ultimately caused this paper’s rejection.

What concerns me about your post Walter is that rather than pointing out that because of this, the science you say is working - and it is, actually shows that IPCC is very very lowball. It concerns me bacause you are framing it in a way that somehow the scientific process was screwed up and you have a habit then of making the science of AGW falsely into a much more open set of questions than it actually is.

Understand fully that this article you bring, and claim shows that science is working means that you must conclude that the AGW scenarios that I and the rest of the science world are talking about are the right ones.