On the topic of Old LGF vs New LGF: Personally my views haven’t changed all that much. Not all of the OLD LGF threads hold up to scrutiny however I still remain critical of religiously sanctioned violence, terrorism, honor killings and backwards practices such as world wide riots and killings over cartoons. I think it’s a serious oversight that modern Western liberals tend to overlook or whitewash the problems. The Muslim world has many problems, many/most are self inflicted problems with deep rooted religious and cultural causes.