I’m not sure why Sarah Palin is suddenly all over Fox News with her stream-of-semi-consciousness rants, but here’s another hilarious word salad from the half-governor in which she comes up with a great slogan for Newt Gingrich: “Annoy a liberal, vote for Newt!”
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:42:46pm |
Alienate anyone with an IQ over 80, seek an endorsement from Sarah!
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nines09 Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:45:26pm |
What a cinder block she is. She must need more walking around money. he should have this sign on her forehead; "For Sale. Hardly Used."
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chonguey Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:47:19pm |
Far from annoying liberals, every vote for Newt fills them with giddy delight.
Democrats and Liberals would love nothing more than to face Newt Gingrich as the nominee in the fall.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:48:28pm |
She really is a dim bulb, isn't she. Sarah, you got your 15 minutes and it is now over. Get off the stage.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:49:35pm |
re: #6 thedopefishlives
She really is a dim bulb, isn't she. Sarah, you got your 15 minutes and it is now over. Get off the stage.
No shit. Would somebody please hit the gong already?!
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aagcobb Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:51:37pm |
re: #7 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
No shit. Would somebody please hit the gong already?!
The Palins are the Kardashians of politics.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:52:16pm |
Why bother with rational policy choices or agendas when you can simply vote for a candidate to spite someone?
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Petero1818 Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:53:15pm |
re: #6 thedopefishlives
She really is a dim bulb, isn't she. Sarah, you got your 15 minutes and it is now over. Get off the stage.
Regrettably she is just getting started. I predict that when Romney loses to Obama she will spend the next 2 years saying I told you so. I told you not to nominate a centrist. You needed to nominate a true christian conservative that is all maverick like and rogue. She will go into the 2016 primaries as the odds on favourite for the GOP nomination in a party that will be so far off the deep end she will seem relatively tame.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:54:20pm |
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FreedomMoon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:55:26pm |
Newt Gingrich + Sarah Palin 2012! For Newt's 4th marriage!!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:56:40pm |
re: #8 aagcobb
The Palins are the Kardashians of politics.
Untrue, since the Kardashians don't actively damage the country's politics. The worst their shows do is kill brain cells. That having been said, Sarah Palin has proven a "stage mother" in the mold of Kris Jenner.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:56:52pm |
The video compression in the YouTube video makes her look like Mark Mothersbaugh (of DEVO) in the video for "Freedom of Choice", which is mind-bogglingly appropriate considering the song has to do with people being content with being free to choose between two equally stupid options.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:57:26pm |
“When both party machines and many in the media are trying to crucify Newt Gingrich for bucking the tide and bucking the establishment that tells you something...”
What is she talking about? What 'tide' is he bucking? It just seems that he's been pandering to some of the worst instincts of conservatives, not that he's made a stand for any principle.
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chonguey Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:58:40pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 5:58:50pm |
re: #13 tacuba14
Newt Gingrich + Sarah Palin! For Newt's 4th marriage!!
Sadly, no. She'd be trading down in that scenario, and even she knows it. A skiing, hunting, dog-sled racing roughneck/fisherman is far more manly than a fat and pasty political dough-boy.
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Petero1818 Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:01:14pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Sadly, no. She'd be trading down in that scenario, and even she knows it. A skiing, hunting, dog-sled racing roughneck/fisherman is far more manly than a fat and pasty political dough-boy.
plus she can buy her own jewellery.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:01:46pm |
re: #8 aagcobb
The Palins are the Kardashians of politics.
Why are you so harsh on the Kardashians?
//
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Olsonist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:02:21pm |
I wanted to put this down in writing.
Please Vote For Newt.
Newt is like the coolest. The country needs Newt. The universe needs Newt. As a liberal/progressive living in the State of California, I personally will vote for Newt in the California State Primary on June 5 except that I'll vote for Newt early by absentee ballot because I don't think I can wait that long. I think this is the most important vote that I will ever cast.
Vote For Newt. He's transformational.
Frankly, fundamentally.
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FreedomMoon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:02:33pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Sadly, no. She'd be trading down in that scenario, and even she knows it. A skiing, hunting, dog-sled racing roughneck/fisherman is far more manly than a fat and pasty political dough-boy.
I don't know, never underestimate a man that has a huge sex drive err, passion for his country. Some ladies apparently (a la Newt's 3 wive history) are into that.
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Amory Blaine Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:02:53pm |
Gingrich is an outsider. He is being crucified. o_0
Rage against the machine? Sounds Alinsyish. (ex. T. Morello).
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:04:13pm |
Just think. Sarah Palin could have been the vice president. She was also a governor. I suppose after seeing Jesse Ventura we'd come to expect this. I suppose only in politics can a complete numbskull make it to the top. But, with the onset of reality TV we've seen much the same.
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prairiefire Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:04:16pm |
I am fascinated by the progressive decline of Sarah's hair. It looks thinner and thinner every time I see her. Sarah, you are coloring it too often! You won't have any left, soon.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:05:15pm |
Meanwhile, at GOP HQ, celebrations are held and toasts made to Sarah Palin for finally being of some use in poisoning the Newt campaign to its very roots.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:06:04pm |
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
Gingrich: I won't debate Obama if media moderates
"The reporters who run the debates have no interest in asking any question which will affect Obama," Gingrich told a crowd gathered to see him at the Pensacola airport. "That's why, as your nominee, I will not accept debates in the fall in which the reporters are the moderators because you don't need to have a second Obama person on the debate."
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:07:25pm |
re: #28 jaunte
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
Well he couldn't well say "I won't debate Obama because he'd make me look like the egomaniacal blowhard that I really am!"
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JamesWI Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:07:38pm |
It sure would annoy those liberals, to nominate someone who has absolutely zero chance of winning a general election against Obama.
It would really grind their gears!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:08:25pm |
re: #28 jaunte
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
Question for the man who would be President: Who, exactly, would be on the approved list of debate moderators?
Nobody?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Listen, Newt, when you run for the highest office in this country, you need to expect a certain level of media involvement. And you need to deal with it like an adult, not like a petulant child who is camera-shy.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:09:43pm |
re: #28 jaunte
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
So, the "Master Debater" won't deign to participate in any debates where he can't dictate the rules? Fine, less drivel for us to listen to in the fall.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:09:55pm |
NATURAL BORN NEWS
[Link: obamaballotchallenge.com...]
"Get that Obama off the ballot! He's a Kenyan Muslim after all, did everybody forget that?"
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:10:43pm |
Guess it's true. Anyone can become whatever the dream of. Just have to set your sights on things and set goals. Sarah Palin is proof of this. In this case anyone can become a governor and anyone can become a vice presidential candidate.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:11:04pm |
re: #28 jaunte
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
Gingrich: "I won't debate Obama because I'm getting my butt kicked from here to Super Tuesday".
Sadly.
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:11:39pm |
re: #33 SpaceJesus
NATURAL BORN NEWS
[Link: obamaballotchallenge.com...]
"Get that Obama off the ballot! He's a Kenyan Muslim after all, did everybody forget that?"
Egads, man...the derpity hate is strong with those folks.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:12:06pm |
re: #28 jaunte
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
Newt Gingrich. Still a douche after all these years.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:12:25pm |
re: #28 jaunte
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
"If Obama won't meet me with an unruly mob behind me, then he's scared to debate me!"
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:13:14pm |
I really wish that somebody in the media would stand up and say "Very well, Mr. Speaker, we're agreed: You don't want us to question you, and we're tired of putting up with our bullshit."
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:13:16pm |
re: #35 Decatur Deb
Gingrich: "I won't debate Obama because I'm getting my butt kicked from here to Super Tuesday".
Sadly.
Pretty much...he also knows that he can't count on "audience participation" during the general debates, because of Commission on Presidential Debates rules.
In other words, Newt's totally boned any way you slice it, if he magically wrests the GOP nom away from Mitt.
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Petero1818 Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:14:13pm |
re: #39 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I really wish that somebody in the media would stand up and say "Very well, Mr. Speaker, we're agreed: You don't want us to question you, and we're tired of putting up with our bullshit."
Followed by the entire media assigned to his campaign picking up and leaving.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:14:20pm |
re: #31 thedopefishlives
Question for the man who would be President: Who, exactly, would be on the approved list of debate moderators?
Nobody?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Listen, Newt, when you run for the highest office in this country, you need to expect a certain level of media involvement. And you need to deal with it like an adult, not like a petulant child who is camera-shy.
I just figured out why Newt rejects evolution: Deep down, he realizes that he is descended from a Dopefish. That would, after all, fit Newt's basic biorhythm: DERP!, DERP!, HUNGRY!
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gummitch Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:14:29pm |
It's not even an original line. [Link: www.cafepress.com...]
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:14:30pm |
re: #37 Gus 802
I don't see any way for him to avoid it when the first debate is held and the moderator is, in fact, someone from the dreaded media.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:14:33pm |
re: #39 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I really wish that
somebody in the mediaAmericans would stand up and say "Very well, Mr. Speaker, we're agreed: You don't want us to question you, and we're tired of putting up with our bullshit."
FTFY
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:15:08pm |
re: #36 talon_262
Yup. I'm always on the lookout for things which will keep me laughing for the next 15 minutes or so.
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Petero1818 Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:16:25pm |
re: #47 Gus 802
I bet Newt smells like stinky butt and cheap cologne.
//
Otherwise known as Santorum?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:17:38pm |
re: #33 SpaceJesus
NATURAL BORN NEWS
[Link: obamaballotchallenge.com...]
"Get that Obama off the ballot! He's a Kenyan Muslim after all, did everybody forget that?"
From the site: "We will also fight against any non Natural Born Republican that appears on...snip"
Didn't Woody Harrelson star in that?
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:17:49pm |
re: #43 gummitch
It's not even an original line. [Link: www.cafepress.com...]
It hasn't been original in over 20 years. Sort of like anyone who thinks Newt is a good candidate for POTUS.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:17:53pm |
re: #42 Dark_Falcon
I regret that I have but one upding to give.
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JRCMYP Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:18:24pm |
I think she looked at the clock and saw that it said 14 minutes 30 seconds.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:18:24pm |
Nevermind, Hannity's moron hour finished with her
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:20:53pm |
re: #56 JRCMYP
I think she looked at the clock and saw that it said 14 minutes 30 seconds.
Her clock's been at 14:59 since John McCain first chose her for VP. She's just spent the last three and half years extending that one final second.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:22:57pm |
re: #58 Lidane
Her clock's been at 14:59 since John McCain first chose her for VP. She's just spent the last three and half years extending that one final second.
Makes me think of the Doomsday Clock, forever set at just a few minutes to midnight, but never hitting it.
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:23:13pm |
Note to Charles: gdipp v0.9.1 works like a charm, mostly. The font rendering with gdipp in Windows 7 x64 is much cleaner and nicer than straight-up ClearType, but Google Chrome apparently has problems with it, so I've gone back to Firefox for now.
BTW, if you install the 64-bit version of gdipp in a Windows of the sufficient bitness, it will automatically install the 32- and 64-bit goodies.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:23:21pm |
re: #28 jaunte
"Vote for Newt; he won't put up with any questions!"
Suggested non-reporter moderators:
Salman Rushdie
Stephen Fry
Neil de Grasse Tyson
Jello Biafra
Eugenie Scott
a cardboard cutout of Christopher Hitchens
Bill Gates
Sergey Brin (Google co-founder)
a Very Special Guest, yet to be announced
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:23:29pm |
re: #59 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And sometimes going backwards!
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:23:34pm |
I don't mind the look of the new heading font, but it is not clean on my PC. The letter edges look ragged sometimes.
Using Chrome.
(Posted this in the previous thread by mistake)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:23:54pm |
re: #54 thedopefishlives
I regret that I have but one upding to give.
One from you is enough, since it lets me know I got the joke right. :)
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:25:19pm |
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Olsonist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:29:41pm |
re: #61 negativ
Suggested non-reporter moderators:
Salman Rushdie
Stephen Fry ⬅ pick him!!!!!
Neil de Grasse Tyson (or Mike Tyson)
Jello Biafra
Eugenie Scott
a cardboard cutout of Christopher Hitchens
Bill Gates
Sergey Brin (Google co-founder)
a Very Special Guest, yet to be announced
But not Brin. If Brin and Newt got within a mile of each other there would be so much megalomaniacal mass within a Schwarzschild radius that a local black hole would be created. No lunar colony for you.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:30:26pm |
Since we're on the fonts I haven't had any problems. They look good on the current machine I'm on. On the other laptop they seem to come in as the Windows default. In any case it works out on both machines.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:31:04pm |
re: #65 ProLifeLiberal
You forgot one.
Cheat on wife.
That only happens when he starts a new mating cycle. Then his cycle changes to: DERP!, DERP!, Find Younger Wife, HUNGRY!.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:32:06pm |
re: #61 negativ
Suggested non-reporter moderators:
Salman Rushdie
Stephen Fry
Neil de Grasse Tyson
Jello Biafra
Eugenie Scott
a cardboard cutout of Christopher Hitchens
Bill Gates
Sergey Brin (Google co-founder)
a Very Special Guest, yet to be announced
Michael Moore, just for the lulz. Two bloated gasbag white guys sneering at each other while Obama walks away looking like the adult in the room.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:32:22pm |
re: #61 negativ
I would pay serious money to see Neil deGrasse Tyson question Newt.
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chonguey Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:32:55pm |
re: #60 talon_262
gdipp v0.9.1 works like a charm, mostly.
That's awesome. I had no idea this existed. Installed!
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:33:02pm |
re: #70 jaunte
I would pay serious money to see Neil de Grasse Tyson question Newt.
I'd pay money to see him moderate a GOP debate. THAT would be worth watching.
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:33:26pm |
re: #70 jaunte
I don't know... Tyson seems to be one of those who is a bit too gentle to do what really needs to be done wrt Newtie.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:33:44pm |
re: #69 Lidane
Michael Moore, just for the lulz. Two bloated gasbag white guys sneering at each other while Obama walks away looking like the adult in the room.
Hell, if we're going that route, Bill Maher.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:35:25pm |
re: #68 Dark_Falcon
That's a good explanation.
I'm right now trying to get the guy whose web Radio Show I watch to cover that asshole theater in Denmark.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:35:30pm |
re: #69 Lidane
Michael Moore, just for the lulz. Two bloated gasbag white guys sneering at each other while Obama walks away looking like the adult in the room.
Couple of weeks ago. Maybe more. But remember how I said that in a strange way Newt Gingrich reminds me of Michael Moore. Not talking about body type either. It's a similarity in the whole package.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:35:52pm |
re: #75 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
He's not bloated.
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JamesWI Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:36:12pm |
re: #77 Gus 802
Couple of weeks ago. Maybe more. But remember how I said that in a strange way Newt Gingrich reminds me of Michael Moore. Not talking about body type either. It's a similarity in the whole package.
Why are you thinking about Newt and Michael Moore's packages?
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:36:50pm |
re: #78 ProLifeLiberal
He's not bloated.
No, but I'd pay good money to see him publicly humiliate Newt on live TV.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:37:17pm |
re: #75 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hell, if we're going that route, Bill Maher.
It's too bad that HST and Hitchens are both dead. They'd be awesome co-moderators.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:37:27pm |
re: #81 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Maher is more than a little bit of a loon himself.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:38:11pm |
re: #75 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hell, if we're going that route, Bill Maher.
Nah, Mahr actually has useful and/or funny things to say every so often. So unlike Mikey Moore and Newt he actually has some value.
What I'd like a debate that brought Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul back together with Randy Jackson as moderators. Seeing Simon tear into Newt would be just priceless.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:39:20pm |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
What I'd like a debate that brought Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul back together with Randy Jackson as moderators. Seeing Simon tear into Newt would be just priceless.
Simon Cowell, Richard Dawkins, and Ricky Gervais going after Newt. That would be fun.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:39:29pm |
re: #80 JamesWI
Why are you thinking about Newt and Michael Moore's packages?
One track mind. Remember that I grew up in the 70s.
//
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:39:46pm |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
Nah, Mahr actually has useful and/or funny things to say every so often. So unlike Mikey Moore and Newt he actually has some value.
What I'd like a debate that brought Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul back together with Randy Jackson as moderators. Seeing Simon tear into Newt would be just priceless.
See Simon moderate a GOP debate. "Absolute rubbish. I don't even know why I'm here. These four are totally pathetic."
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:40:31pm |
re: #85 Lidane
Simon Cowell, Richard Dawkins, and Ricky Gervais going after Newt. That would be fun.
Sam Harris
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:40:38pm |
re: #82 Lidane
It's too bad that HST and Hitchens are both dead. They'd be awesome co-moderators.
If you could bring back any two people who died in the last years to moderate a debate, I'd go with Christopher Hitchens and William F. Buckley. Both smart, articulate men able to ask plenty of good questions, but both fierce enough to keep after a waffling candidate.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:42:14pm |
re: #77 Gus 802
Couple of weeks ago. Maybe more. But remember how I said that in a strange way Newt Gingrich reminds me of Michael Moore. Not talking about body type either. It's a similarity in the whole package.
Possibly it's that they're both utterly disingenuous. They have both shown that they will distort facts, tell half-truths, and flat out make shit up in order to back up their point of view. Imaginary Dr. Freud points to both of them as case studies in narcissism.
Both men are also undeniably intelligent - but both serve as proof that you can have a sharp mind and still be full of shit.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:42:17pm |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
Nah, Mahr actually has useful and/or funny things to say every so often. So unlike Mikey Moore and Newt he actually has some value.
What I'd like a debate that brought Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul back together with Randy Jackson as moderators. Seeing Simon tear into Newt would be just priceless.
I'm not going to be happy until I see Ryan Seacreast moderate a GOP debate..At least it would be somewhat fun as opposed to tortured mud slinging
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:43:04pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
If you could bring back any two people who died in the last years to moderate a debate, I'd go with Christopher Hitchens and William F. Buckley. Both smart, articulate men able to ask plenty of good questions, but both fierce enough to keep after a waffling candidate.
See, I'd still throw HST into the middle of that, because his drug and alcohol fueled questions would keep the candidates on their toes.
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prairiefire Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:43:48pm |
re: #85 Lidane
Simon Cowell, Richard Dawkins, and Ricky Gervais going after Newt. That would be fun.
Not a fair fight! They'd squish him like a bug.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:44:03pm |
Meanwhile, in Syria...
The Arab League calls on the United Nations Security Council to back its proposal for the President of Syria Bashar al-Assad to hand over power to his deputy and prepare for elections.
Good luck with that. Assad will only cede power at the end of a gun. I say, let Turkey (and because of our presence in Turkey, us) loose on Syria.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:46:03pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
If you could bring back any two people who died in the last 10 years to moderate a debate, I'd go with Christopher Hitchens and William F. Buckley. Both smart, articulate men able to ask plenty of good questions, but both fierce enough to keep after a waffling candidate.
PIMF
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:46:55pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
If you could bring back any two people who died in the last years to moderate a debate, I'd go with Christopher Hitchens and William F. Buckley. Both smart, articulate men able to ask plenty of good questions, but both fierce enough to keep after a waffling candidate.
Bill had a rather questionable early years. Despite that he changed over time. He was a very equal interviewer with a diverse set of guests. Many of whom were in opposition to him. He put Noam Chomsky on the map and many others. With Bill's death it's almost as though conservatism died along with it. Along with a measure of full respect even though we were poles apart.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:47:21pm |
re: #93 prairiefire
Not a fair fight. They'd squish him like a bug.
Newt's an intellectual! Those freaks are just Hollyweird libruls. Newt would debate circles around them!
///
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:48:05pm |
re: #87 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
See Simon moderate a GOP debate. "Absolute rubbish. I don't even know why I'm here. These four are totally pathetic."
Thing is, though, he would have said that about the Beetles immediately after telling Ricky Nelson that he was the greatest thing since Bach.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:48:43pm |
re: #92 Lidane
See, I'd still throw HST into the middle of that, because his drug and alcohol fueled questions would keep the candidates on their toes.
He was just too nuts and too egotistical. He'd want to make every question about himself. Thompson was as bad as Gingrich in that regard.
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Petero1818 Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:50:29pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
If you could bring back any two people who died in the last years to moderate a debate, I'd go with Christopher Hitchens and William F. Buckley. Both smart, articulate men able to ask plenty of good questions, but both fierce enough to keep after a waffling candidate.
The reality is that the best people to moderate a debate are people who don't give a shit and do not have reputations or careers to look out for. Essentially a nobody willing to not accept bullshit answers, or pivoting to talking points. Just keep asking the same question of a candidate until they answer it. Don't move on until they do so. If they refuse to answer it, ignore them for the duration. Stop them if they attempt to pivot or deflect. Only someone without a career or reputation to protect can do that.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:51:32pm |
Because annoying liberals is what a winning presidential campaign strategy should be. Good grief Palin's a dolt.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:52:26pm |
re: #94 ProLifeLiberal
Meanwhile, in Syria...
Good luck with that. Assad will only cede power at the end of a gun. I say, let Turkey (and because of our presence in Turkey, us) loose on Syria.
Turkey won't do that. Then they'd have to garrison Syria while it sorted itself out, and after seeing what we went through in Iraq I don't think they'll want to do that.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:53:14pm |
re: #100 ProLifeLiberal
Given their Psycho Streak and general friendliness to much of the Muslim World, Norway should be given supplies and get into it as well.
Norway is like the Tasmanian Devil. Should be locked in cage until there's a fight. Then you release it into the world.
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Robert O. Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:54:38pm |
I am in little mood to complain when Republicans are eating each other. Check the RCP poll averages: Obama is much stronger against Gingrich than Romney. If the Tea Party wants to kick down Romney, soften him up a bit, or deliver Gingrich as their nominee, it is fine by me!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:54:55pm |
Wait until Glenn Beck and Breitbart get a hold of this one....
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
A 15-year-old boy accused of strangling his foster parents in Oakland and stuffing their bodies into a car will be prosecuted as an adult, authorities said Monday.
....
Officers found the couple's bodies hidden in the back of their car parked outside their home. The car was charred, as if someone tried to set it on fire, police said.The couple had been having arguments with their son, some of them having to do with him spending too much time in the former Occupy Oakland encampment, co-workers said.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:57:00pm |
re: #102 HappyWarrior
Because annoying liberals is what a winning presidential campaign strategy should be. Good grief Palin's a dolt.
I'm pretty sure Mitt has the nomination locked up. He's the candidate that they should be running anyways. I don't think Obama will win by a landslide but I think he'll beat Mitt.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:57:29pm |
re: #100 ProLifeLiberal
Also, Jordan.
I'm not so sure about that. Intervening could be a good idea for King Abdullah, but could also backfire badly.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:58:01pm |
Well, somebody has to fill up the bottom comments list.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 6:59:38pm |
re: #104 ProLifeLiberal
Given their Psycho Streak and general friendliness to much of the Muslim World, Norway should be given supplies and get into it as well.
Norway is like the Tasmanian Devil. Should be locked in cage until there's a fight. Then you release it into the world.
Are you aware of the butter shortage?
In times long past when Norwegians ran out of things, instead of going to the store, they'd put on steel hats with horns and invade the rest of Europe.
Now:
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:00:05pm |
Gingrich Claims Obama Violates Catholics' Right to Worship
...The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops recently launched an Ad Hoc Committee on Religious Liberty because "never before have we faced this kind of challenge to our ability to engage in the public square as people of faith and as a service provider." It has portrayed public policy and laws, ranging from same-sex marriage to same-sex adoption to contraceptive coverage as a violation of religious freedom.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:00:42pm |
re: #110 negativ
Yeah, I heard about that.
Just tell them Syria has an epic surplus of butter. That will give them impetus. :P
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What, me worry? Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:03:57pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Wait until Glenn Beck and Breitbart get a hold of this one...
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
Hippy liberal kid (with a funny name) kills parents. Holy Moley! Totally made for them!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:05:22pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Wait until Glenn Beck and Breitbart get a hold of this one...
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
Sorry, Killgore, but I just can't upding this one, not even as a counter-ding. Leaving that "Occupy Oakland" line on the end of your quotation makes it look like you think OO is to blame for those murders. And while I thoroughly loathe OO to my very core, that group had nothing to do with those murders. This is the act of a lone asshole, whom I hope will get life with no parole.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:05:57pm |
Well I finally finished up writing my character's journal entry about the shadow run I did a few weeks ago, luckily this one really stuck in my head for a while... you guys interested in hearing about it/seeing the journal entry?
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:07:11pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Wait until Glenn Beck and Breitbart get a hold of this one...
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
Yes yes, we know, OWS root of all evil. There was no crime before OWS existed. Second verse, same as the first.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:07:34pm |
Clearly there is an agenda that I was not aware of?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:07:36pm |
re: #115 jamesfirecat
Well I finally finished up writing my character's journal entry about the shadow run I did a few weeks ago, luckily this one really stuck in my head for a while... you guys interested in hearing about it/seeing the journal entry?
As a fellow customer of Catalyst Game Labs, yes.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:07:53pm |
I'm recording Mark Zuckerberg: Inside Facebook on CNBC...Really good stuff
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:08:28pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
As a fellow customer of Catalyst Game Labs, yes.
Okay do you just want the overall overview or should I put the journal up as a page?
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:10:08pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:11:52pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
Sorry, Killgore, but I just can't upding this one, not even as a counter-ding. Leaving that "Occupy Oakland" line on the end of your quotation makes it look like you think OO is to blame for those murders. And while I thoroughly loathe OO to my very core, that group had nothing to do with those murders. This is the act of a lone asshole, whom I hope will get life with no parole.
Agreed, that's why I said that the wingnuts were going to exploit this tragedy because of its connection to OWS for political gain.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:12:38pm |
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:13:04pm |
re: #123 HoosierHoops
I've driven by it alot. :)
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:13:39pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
Agreed, that's why I said that the wingnuts were going to exploit this tragedy because of its connection to OWS for political gain.
And I can't say as I've seen anybody other than the wingnuts giving a damn about them.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:15:16pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
Agreed, that's why I said that the wingnuts were going to exploit this tragedy because of its connection to OWS for political gain.
You needed to make that make that clearer. Given your history, your comment was very likely to be taken other than how you meant it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:17:01pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Wait until Glenn Beck and Breitbart get a hold of this one...
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
Holy Mother of God.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:17:34pm |
re: #112 ProLifeLiberal
Yeah, I heard about that.
Just tell them Syria has an epic surplus of butter. That will give them impetus. :P
LOL.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:17:46pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
You needed to make that make that clearer. Given your history, your comment was very likely to be taken other than how you meant it.
Those who require coddling will never be appeased.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:20:45pm |
re: #129 SanFranciscoZionist
Norway has a history of going way too far in war.
That makes them very valuable as an ally. They will always give it 100%.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:22:21pm |
re: #130 Killgore Trout
Those who require coddling will never be appeased.
Those that require KT to go to the new green house and harvest a fresh garden salad for lunch will always be appeased.. It's the law..I looked it up.
/
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:22:38pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:23:25pm |
re: #130 Killgore Trout
Those who require coddling will never be appeased.
It seems that this is a controversial statement. Those who require coddling seem to think they can be appeased. Go figure.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:23:32pm |
Letters of Note: Monday, 30 January 2012
Jourdan Anderson: To My Old Master
In August of 1865, a Colonel P.H. Anderson of Big Spring, Tennessee, wrote to his former slave, Jourdan Anderson, and requested that he come back to work on his farm. Jourdan — who, since being emancipated, had moved to Ohio, found paid work, and was now supporting his family — responded spectacularly by way of the letter seen below (a letter which, according to newspapers at the time, he dictated).
Rather than quote the numerous highlights in this letter, I'll simply leave you to enjoy it. Do make sure you read to the end.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:24:24pm |
re: #130 Killgore Trout
Those who require coddling will never be appeased.
Oh thank you, wise and learned one, for teaching us wayward children the truth of the world. However did we get by without your fatherly guidance?
///
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:24:51pm |
re: #134 HoosierHoops
Those that require KT to go to the new green house and harvest a fresh garden salad for lunch will always be appeased.. It's the law..I looked it up.
/
Fresh cilantro and shallots on my black bean soup tonight. Very delicious. I am indeed appeased.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:28:33pm |
re: #119 HoosierHoops
Hoosier you said you wanted to buy some jewelry from the Zionist Mall?
One of my partner vendors (who make the cross inside star of david) also make specialized custom orders, whatever material (gold, silver), with gemstones. I have been in their workshop in Jerusalem and the photos do not do justice, their products are gorgeous! You can design a piece and they will make it for you. Use the "Contact us" link at the bottom of the Zionist Mall page.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:30:08pm |
The Denmark thing is giving me a Rage Headache.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:30:45pm |
Judge Strips Power from Oakland Police
Decisions must now go through court monitors, as department steps closer to federal takeover
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allegro Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:30:52pm |
re: #51 Decatur Deb
From the site: "We will also fight against any non Natural Born Republican that appears on...snip"
Didn't Woody Harrelson star in that?
Produced by Jane Hamsher. The very one.
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:31:48pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Wait until Glenn Beck and Breitbart get a hold of this one...
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
As soon as I saw that I thought 'Wait until KT gets a hold of this one.'
And tada.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:33:18pm |
re: #140 Alouette
Hoosier you said you wanted to buy some jewelry from the Zionist Mall?
One of my partner vendors (who make the cross inside star of david) also make specialized custom orders, whatever material (gold, silver), with gemstones. I have been in their workshop in Jerusalem and the photos do not do justice, their products are gorgeous! You can design a piece and they will make it for you. Use the "Contact us" link at the bottom of the Zionist Mall page.
Thank you Alouette..I really want to get her something special..Something she will cherish forever...Gold and diamonds for my little girl..
I'll leave you my email on the contact form
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:33:23pm |
re: #142 jaunte
Judge Strips Power from Oakland Police
Decisions must now go through court monitors, as department steps closer to federal takeover
How soon before the wingnut derp brigade blames activist judges and OWS for that?
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:35:06pm |
re: #146 Lidane
I'm not in favor of lamebrains breaking in to City Hall and busting the place up, but there are serious problems with the Oakland P.D.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:36:08pm |
re: #116 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yes yes, we know, OWS root of all evil. There was no crime before OWS existed. Second verse, same as the first.
No crime, no violence, no unemployment or homelessness, no income inequality, no social ills or public protests that get taken over by anarchists... nada. Life was perfect and true before OWS came along. True fact.
///
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What, me worry? Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:36:57pm |
re: #137 jaunte
Letters of Note: Monday, 30 January 2012
Jourdan Anderson: To My Old Master
That was so amazing. I favorited it.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:38:55pm |
re: #145 HoosierHoops
Thank you Alouette..I really want to get her something special..Something she will cherish forever...Gold and diamonds for my little girl..
I'll leave you my email on the contact form
Spending your inheritance I see. :)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:41:34pm |
re: #142 jaunte
Judge Strips Power from Oakland Police
Decisions must now go through court monitors, as department steps closer to federal takeover
I'm not sure that's a good idea right now. Given how flagrantly provocative and violent Occupy Oakland has been, I'd argue that hamstringing the cops is a bad idea.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:41:58pm |
Okay DF (and anyone else interested) here is my first Shadow Running Journal [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] I've written two of them but it doesn't make much sense to post the second one without showing the first one does it?
PS: Love to hear what anyone who bothers to read it thinks of it.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:42:23pm |
re: #144 BigPapa
As soon as I saw that I thought 'Wait until KT gets a hold of this one.'
And tada.
Personally I'm not in favor of exploiting unrelated tragedies for political gain. I've voiced my opposition to lefties using the same tactic on this very blog. Perhaps you've missed that.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:42:52pm |
re: #151 Dark_Falcon
Was hoping to chat with you over the Denmark theater thing. I need to vent.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:42:58pm |
re: #151 Dark_Falcon
I'm not sure that's a good idea right now. Given how flagrantly provocative and violent Occupy Oakland has been, I'd argue that hamstringing the cops is a bad idea.
Oakland PD should have thought of that a long time ago. They've had NINE YEARS to put in the changes they were court ordered to do:
The department has been under court monitoring since 2003, when the city settled a civil suit over the Riders case, in which several officers were accused of planting drugs on suspects in East Oakland. As a result of the settlement agreement, the department agreed to implement a series of misconduct-related reforms, including an overhaul of disciplinary procedures and use-of-force reporting. But two missed deadlines later, the department has yet to complete the tasks.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:44:05pm |
re: #151 Dark_Falcon
Unfortunately, they've been dragging their feet on a court order, and the court has had enough.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:44:26pm |
Well. I'm the proud new owner of another computer headache. It just went black. Back on the lap top.
I'd have to agree with KT on this. Occupy Oakland is run by a bunch of losers.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:47:27pm |
re: #157 Gus 802
Well. I'm the proud new owner of another computer headache. It just went black. Back on the lap top.
I'd have to agree with KT on this. Occupy Oakland is run by a bunch of losers.
Somethings fucked up these days with Windows, java, and videos. A lot of people are reporting problems and I've been having them too.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:47:39pm |
re: #157 Gus 802
Sorry, but you can't blame Occupy Oakland for some kid killing his parents.
Killing your parents involves issues that run a LOT deeper than just arguing over your kid spending too much time at a protest. I don't even see how Occupy Oakland would even be relevant to that.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:49:16pm |
re: #154 ProLifeLiberal
Was hoping to chat with you over the Denmark theater thing. I need to vent.
OK, say what you need to say. I'll be happy to talk with you, though I'm going to have to step away to get my laundry out of the dryer at one point. So if I don't reply to a post for 10 minutes, I haven't forgotten you.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:49:29pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
Personally I'm not in favor of exploiting unrelated tragedies for political gain. I've voiced my opposition to lefties using the same tactic on this very blog. Perhaps you've missed that.
And so, instead of...say, waiting on them to make an issue of it, you instead decide to act as though they already have and are trying to get in line to be the first to denounce the same folks you've been angrily shaking your fist at for months.
How brave of you.///
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:49:34pm |
re: #158 Killgore Trout
Somethings fucked up these days with Windows, java, and videos. A lot of people are reporting problems and I've been having them too.
Nope it's just that. I'm suspecting hardware incompatibility. Might be this cheap 19 dollar CDRW. Had to take it off the Intel SATA and put it on the Marvell port. Doing an OS run on a SSD. Might be that. Or it could be the video card. Or it could be... See what I mean?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:49:57pm |
re: #155 Lidane
Oakland PD should have thought of that a long time ago. They've had NINE YEARS to put in the changes they were court ordered to do:
Agreed, but even so this is a major crisis.
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Olsonist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:51:21pm |
re: #151 Dark_Falcon
I'm not sure that's a good idea right now. Given how flagrantly provocative and violent Occupy Oakland has been, I'd argue that hamstringing the cops is a bad idea.
DF, I live in Oakland and I pay property taxes in Oakland. OPD is a bad thing irrespective of OO. Their salaries are bloated and getting taken over by the Feds requires a major effort on their part. Yeah, the anarchists that have taken over OO need to get a clue. But the OPD is inflaming things to make bank on overtime.
No love, none, for the OPD. The only official interactions I've had with them is parking tickets and a burglary. Someone broke in and stole a MacBook Pro and an iPad. When the BerkeleySide reported that a XXX had been busted I filed a late burglary report WITH CPU IDS. When I called about it I was made to feel like a criminal.
No love, no for the OPD. Fire them all, and start over from scratch. And require a bachelors degree.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:52:17pm |
re: #159 Lidane
Sorry, but you can't blame Occupy Oakland for some kid killing his parents.
Killing your parents involves issues that run a LOT deeper than just arguing over your kid spending too much time at a protest. I don't even see how Occupy Oakland would even be relevant to that.
I don't know. Really wasn't paying attention to the story. Was dealing with something else. I guess you can't blame Occupy Oakland for that. I really don't care what they do. They're a pain and I have my own problems.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:52:36pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
Agreed, but even so this is a major crisis.
So what? They had nine years to comply with a court order and failed to do so. Are the courts just supposed to ignore nine years of abject failure to have their orders followed because of a protest that went badly? As soon as they do that, then Oakland PD just finds some other excuse down the line for why they're still not complying with the court.
Either court orders mean something or they don't. Oakland PD had nine years to follow the rules and chose to ignore it. They have to face the consequences of that, no matter what the timing.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:54:28pm |
re: #160 Dark_Falcon
OK, say what you need to say. I'll be happy to talk with you, though I'm going to have to step away to get my laundry out of the dryer at one point. So if I don't reply to a post for 10 minutes, I haven't forgotten you.
What do you need clean clothes for? We can't smell you.
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Olsonist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:54:58pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
Agreed, but even so this is a major crisis.
So not a major crisis. Again, I live here and it is so not a major crisis.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:56:10pm |
re: #166 Lidane
So what? They had nine years to comply with a court order and failed to do so. Are the courts just supposed to ignore nine years of abject failure to have their orders followed because of a protest that went badly? As soon as they do that, then Oakland PD just finds some other excuse down the line for why they're still not complying with the court.
Either court orders mean something or they don't. Oakland PD had nine years to follow the rules and chose to ignore it. They have to face the consequences of that, no matter what the timing.
9 years for something they said could be done in less than 5. They've been stalling and buying time, making excuses for why they can't get their act together and institute the changes that the courts decided needed to be made. Well, the same courts have decided that excuses don't cut it anymore.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:56:33pm |
Dear Occupy Oakland,
Please stop doing what you're doing because apparently it's not working out. Get a mic check together and come up with a new strategy. Until then I'll just watch and eat my popcorn.
Sincerely,
Gus+802
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:57:10pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
Personally I'm not in favor of exploiting unrelated tragedies for political gain. I've voiced my opposition to lefties using the same tactic on this very blog. Perhaps you've missed that.
Maybe it's just me, but in my mind you've spent the last several months doing nothing but exploiting (at times unrelated) instances of Bad Things Happening In The Vicinity Of "Occupy What-The-Fuck-Ever" for reasons that once upon a time really made it seem like you were trying to make a point about the whole OWS thing, but now make you seem just very slightly shy of obsessed.
You have long been one of the LGF posters whose ramblings I am usually happy to read, but for what seems like quite a long time now I've just scrolled past your stuff because 9 times out of 10 it's your latest finger-in-the-OWS-eye. The Time for Shit Giving has passed.
Then again, I'm probably wrong, as usual.
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sproingie Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:57:33pm |
Newt won't debate Obama in the general, and in fact shouldn't, for a very good reason.
He won't be the nominee.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:58:16pm |
re: #168 Olsonist
So not a major crisis. Again, I live here and it is so not a major crisis.
Oakland has a soft part of my heart.. I was TDY at Alameda when Nikki was born at Merritt in the middle of the night..I enjoyed a year there learning the area..I like the hills and the lake
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:00:11pm |
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:00:40pm |
re: #137 jaunte
That was entertaining and I presume it to be real, although on several counts I doubt it was written exactly as dictated nor by the author alone, not least considering that hand made copies were made and sent to newspapers.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:01:06pm |
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:02:06pm |
re: #160 Dark_Falcon
I feel livid over this thing still. The fact that these assholes even think that is a good idea shows just how depraved they are morally.
Personally, I wish I could give those assholes a kick to the cajones so hard they would fly out of their mouths. I'll just take this rant from Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood:
“Nothing hangs between your thighs. In fact, there is a hole there so deep it reaches into the maledetto inferno (fucking underworld)!”
There's another one that also gives an idea, but can't find the transcript.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:02:41pm |
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:03:24pm |
re: #178 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Jamie Hyneman?
//
Anything. 64 bit is buggy just as I suspected.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:04:10pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
that's what you get for pretending the danger's not real
meek and obedient you follow the leader
down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
what a surprise
a look of terminal shock in your eyes
now things are really what they seem
no this is not a bad dream
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:04:56pm |
re: #179 ProLifeLiberal
I feel livid over this thing still. The fact that these assholes even think that is a good idea shows just how depraved they are morally.
Personally, I wish I could give those assholes a kick to the cajones so hard they would fly out of their mouths. I'll just take this rant from Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood:
There's another one that also gives an idea, but can't find the transcript.
Better to keep publishing their retched little idea for a play. Put on enough heat and I'll bet they'll find their play/screed pulling a Dance a Little Closer, where their opening night is also their closing night.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:08:21pm |
re: #182 Gus 802
Anything. 64 bit is buggy just as I suspected.
64-bit Jamie $SPELLING_ERROR??
You realize that this theoretically gives him access to 16 EXABYTES of RAM?
We'll have to call in Team America to clean this up before it's all over.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:09:45pm |
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:09:48pm |
One Indiana Democratic state senator tries to insert what may be either a "poison pill" or a legal loophole in the IN creationism bill... but to any good?
Senate broadens teaching creationism proposal
Legislators on Monday broadened a proposal aimed at allowing Indiana’s public schools to teach creationism in science classes to require that such courses include origin of life theories from multiple religions.
The Senate approved the change to legislation critics had argued was unconstitutional because federal courts repeatedly have found teaching creationism violates church-state separation because of its reliance on the Bible’s book of Genesis.
The change proposed by Democratic Sen. Vi Simpson of Bloomington says any course offered by public schools teaching creationism must include origin theories from multiple religions, among them Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Scientology.
Simpson said she didn’t think the change would resolve constitutional problems, but she believed broadening the subject matter might cause local school boards to hesitate before deciding to insert religion into science classes.
“It does make it clear that a school board can’t just say we’re only going to teach Christian creation theory but we also have to cover other multiple religions,” Simpson said.
The broadened bill still faces a vote by the full Senate before advancing to the House.
Republican Sen. Dennis Kruse of Auburn, who sponsored the creationism bill, said he reluctantly supported the change because it made the proposal acceptable to more senators.
Kruse said while he wanted school districts to have the option of teaching creationism alongside evolution he believed the broader proposal would still expose students to theories that the development of life was guided by a deity.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:10:15pm |
I don't know why some ya'll take KT so seriously. He's just fuckin' with ya'.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:11:44pm |
re: #188 Gus 802
I don't know why some ya'll take KT so seriously. He's just fuckin' with ya'.
I'm quite serious but none of this is important.
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sagehen Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:12:58pm |
re: #61 negativ
Suggested non-reporter moderators:
Salman Rushdie
Stephen Fry
Neil de Grasse Tyson
Jello Biafra
Eugenie Scott
a cardboard cutout of Christopher Hitchens
Bill Gates
Sergey Brin (Google co-founder)
a Very Special Guest, yet to be announced
How about the judges from "American Idol" or "Dancing With the Stars"?
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:13:22pm |
"I’m a little bit tired about respecting every religion on the planet. I’d like them to respect our religion."
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:14:14pm |
re: #137 jaunte
Letters of Note: Monday, 30 January 2012
Jourdan Anderson: To My Old Master
A rapier wit, Jourdan Anderson had.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:15:50pm |
re: #183 WindUpBird
Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream.
It's our own fault, really.
IN OTHER NEWS, HERE'S JANET WITH THE WEATHER:
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:16:31pm |
re: #189 Killgore Trout
I'm quite serious but none of this is important.
It's Oakland. Home of the birthplace of the Oakland Raiders. They still idolize the American terrorists like the Black Panthers, the Hell's Angels in San Jose. A lot of gangs and a lot of trouble. It's expensive had some of the highest murder rates in California in recent years. I used to avoid it and Berkeley like the plaque when I lived in Nob Hill and The Mission. The worst part about hanging around Berkeley was dealing with all of those hip rich snobs whose parents helped them get into the place.
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:17:14pm |
re: #189 Killgore Trout
I'm quite serious but none of this is important.
I'm quite important but none of this is serious.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:19:06pm |
re: #173 HoosierHoops
Oakland has a soft part of my heart.. I was TDY at Alameda when Nikki was born at Merritt in the middle of the night..I enjoyed a year there learning the area..I like the hills and the lake
It's a lovely city, in many ways. A lot of my friends live there, and I would definitely look at it if we ever move.
I wish they could get downtown going again.
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:20:13pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
Personally I'm not in favor of exploiting unrelated tragedies for political gain. I've voiced my opposition to lefties using the same tactic on this very blog. Perhaps you've missed that.
The irony is wide and deep in this statement, KT, because just about every one of your posts about Occupy Anywhere has been made with intent for political gain. Occupy sure as hell wasn't and isn't a perfect political "movement" and a lot of hangers-on with ill intent wormed their way in to it and co-opted it in many ways, but their message that the 1% has and is screwing over the 99% is still valid.
Spare us your platitudes about Occupy, because I'm getting weary of it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:20:15pm |
re: #195 Gus 802
It's Oakland. Home of the birthplace of the Oakland Raiders. They still idolize the American terrorists like the Black Panthers, the Hell's Angels in San Jose. A lot of gangs and a lot of trouble. It's expensive had some of the highest murder rates in California in recent years. I used to avoid it and Berkeley like the plaque when I lived in Nob Hill and The Mission. The worst part about hanging around Berkeley was dealing with all of those hip rich snobs whose parents helped them get into the place.
Hey. Don't diss the Raiders.
Real Women Wear Black.
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palomino Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:21:11pm |
re: #130 Killgore Trout
Those who require coddling will never be appeased.
Thanks, Prime Minister Churchill.
Now you've got delusions of grandeur to go along with your OWS OCD. Well played.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:21:17pm |
I hope the Denmark hate-play gets the same reception Max Bialystock's Denmark-set play got:
Mel Brooks is a comic genius.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:22:01pm |
Va. Senate poised to pass bill requiring ultrasounds before abortion
...Sen. Janet Howell, D-Fairfax County, was dismayed enough by the bill’s progress that she tried to amend it so men seeking prescriptions for erectile dysfunction medication such as Viagra would be required to undergo a rectal exam and cardiac stress test.
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:22:53pm |
re: #159 Lidane
Sorry, but you can't blame Occupy Oakland for some kid killing his parents.
Killing your parents involves issues that run a LOT deeper than just arguing over your kid spending too much time at a protest. I don't even see how Occupy Oakland would even be relevant to that.
KT's rule on Occupy Anywhere: if something bad happens anywhere and Occupy is even remotely associated with it, it's Occupy's fault.
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Olsonist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:24:50pm |
re: #195 Gus 802
re: #200 SanFranciscoZionist
The Raiders suck. That said, the Raiderettes are pretty hot. Not as hot as the Sabrekittens or not as slutty as the Sabrekittens to be more precise but just way hotter than the Warrior Girls.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:26:11pm |
re: #202 Dark_Falcon
These people need ask themselves a question.
Would it have been appropriate to have made a play about why Al-Qaeda did 9/11 in 2002 (or now).
No? THEN DON'T FUCKING DO IT.
Fortunately, this play won't run long. Europe, especially the Nordic States are beside themselves in anger. This play can never be done in Germany or France because of the laws in those nations after WWII.
Still full of anger.
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palomino Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:26:43pm |
re: #203 jaunte
Va. Senate poised to pass bill requiring ultrasounds before abortion
She's got the right idea--point out the disparity that occurs with a lot more GOP men in the VA legislature than women of either party.
Maybe some debate moderator will have the guts to ask Gingrich, Romney, et al. what they think about these bills. But I wouldn't bet on it.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:27:04pm |
re: #203 jaunte
Va. Senate poised to pass bill requiring ultrasounds before abortion
*sigh* 5 years ago, they had a big celebratory season over the founding of Jamestown 400 years ago. Times I feel as though this state is still stuck 4 centuries behind the rest of the country.
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:27:46pm |
Patrick Kiger takes on a supporter of Santorum's teach-the-controversy at the WaPo:
Should Public Schools Teach Alternatives to Evolutionary Theory?
[...]
I'm thinking in particular of the former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania and current presidential candidate Rick Santorum, an adherent of the "Intelligent Design" concept, which holds that life on our planet was deliberately crafted by a supernatural creator, rather than shaped by the natural selection process that is the underpinning of evolutionary theory. As a senator, Santorum pressed to insert an amendment to the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 to require schools to treat evolutionary biology as a subject of "continuing controversy." He subsequently wrote this 2002 Washington Times op-ed piece, in which he insisted that ID is "a legitimate scientific theory that should be taught in science classes."
That brouhaha may seem as ancient to you as the fossils that Louis and Mary Leakey found in the Olduvai Gorge, but I bring it up again not just because Santorum is running for the White House, but because an influential journalist, Washington Post education writer Jay Mathews, has taken to championing Santorum's position. In this recent article, "Santorum's Good but Hated Education Idea," he argues that schools should "teach all sides of the evolution issue," and allow students to ponder whether ID is superior to evolutionary theory as the best explanation for natural phenomena. In a follow-up, "We're Smart Enough for Darwin Debate," Mathews reiterated his position, which essentially is that fostering such a debate would enable students to learn about the scientific method and how theories are developed. As Mathews writes:
I think Darwin was right, but boring. It was hard for me to become interested in classroom explanations of natural selection when I was a student. Introducing a contrary theory like intelligent design and having students discuss its differences from Darwinism would enliven the class. It would also teach the scientific method. Did Darwin follow the rules of objective scientific inquiry? Does intelligent design?
At this point, you're probably expecting me to go into a lengthy critique of ID and why it is not a scientific theory, in which an explanation is formed from observations and tested by its ability to predict new phenomena, but rather a philosophical approach akin to that used in medieval Scholasticism, in which the adherent's goal is to find a way to reconcile information with a set of unchallengeable assumptions. [...] I'll also refrain from dissing Matthews' and Santorum's proposition simply because it contravenes a 1987 U.S. Supreme Court decision, Edwards vs. Aguillard, which found that compelling schools to teach "creation science" (an earlier term for ID) alongside evolution violated the First Amendment's ban on state promotion of religion. [...]
No, instead, I'm going to raise this point. If we accept Santorum's and Mathews' argument that students should be exposed to alternatives to evolution because some people see evolution as controversial, aren't we obligated to expose students to alternatives to other things that they're taught in school as well? When school curricula include lessons about the Sept. 11 attacks, for example, shouldn't they have to present the views of the 9 /11 Truth movement, some of whose adherents argue that al-Qaida was framed and that the World Trade Center actually was destroyed by internal explosive charges planted by government cabalists?
WaPo can have some seriously mixed up writers at times.
Recommend the whole blog entry.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:28:58pm |
re: #186 ProLifeLiberal
Dance a Little Closer?
I'm not familiar with it.
Basically, it was a musical that had 25 previews before its opening night, only to meet with opening night reviews (most notable that of Frank Rich) so bad it closed without a second official performance.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:29:17pm |
Well I'm off to bed, Dark and anyone self interested in shadowrunning if you get a chance to look into it, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on my journal.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:32:35pm |
re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist
It's a lovely city, in many ways. A lot of my friends live there, and I would definitely look at it if we ever move.
I wish they could get downtown going again.
I agree..But Oakland can be very intimidating to people..
I mean really..It's like a little NYC..You move to a part of the city and grow as a person..Pretty soon you're a typical NYC'er and fitting in nicely..
Oakland has so much going on..The Lake..The Hills..The best China Town in the Bay Area.. Blue collar down to earth people..Minutes from Alameda and a bridge crossing to SF. 98th Street can get you killed or put in jail..And this is different from any other big city?
I'd live in a condo on Lake Merritt in a flat second..
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:32:39pm |
re: #209 freetoken
I agree with his conclusion; the 'competing theories' are a waste of time.
...if we're trying to provide high school students who are our future scientists and engineers with the background and skills that they'll need to invent the breakthroughs of the mid-21st century, it would be a mistake to squander their limited amount of instructional time -- in Illinois, for example, it's 180 minutes a week -- on something that's clearly not even science, like ID. There's too much genuinely important information they need to cover.
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:35:20pm |
re: #209 freetoken
The news media is still afraid of tackling evolution. According to them this is still a religious issues and not a scientific issue.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:35:41pm |
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:37:33pm |
Via William Gibson:
Flying People in New York City
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sagehen Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:37:55pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
Agreed, but even so this is a major crisis.
A department that can't comply with a court order, after nine years and two deadlines, maybe aren't the best qualified to handle a major crisis.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:39:11pm |
re: #164 Olsonist
DF, I live in Oakland and I pay property taxes in Oakland.
Yeah but you are expecting a deluded idealogue to pay attention to rational realism.
Ain't gonna happen; pearls before swine.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:39:59pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
Agreed, but even so this is a major crisis.
ROTFL
What the eff would you know about it, from your gated community 1.5K miles away.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:41:24pm |
re: #216 ProLifeLiberal
Hm. He's just trying to get the spotlight on his theater. I'm not sure I buy the whole "we want to remind everybody that this evil exists and it can happen again if we try to block it out" thing so much.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:43:24pm |
re: #218 sagehen
A department that can't comply with a court order, after nine years and two deadlines, maybe aren't the best qualified to handle a major crisis.
I understand that. I just hope those monitors confine themselves to policy and do not attempt to insert themselves into tactical decision making. It's fine if they report on that decision-making afterwards, and even order changes, just as long as the chain of command remains clear in a crisis.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:43:27pm |
re: #223 SpaceJesus
This is just giving me an anger-inducing headache.
This is unacceptable behavior. When you deal with evil, you do it like Mel Brooks did. Everyone here know what I am talking about.
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:43:30pm |
re: #213 jaunte
I agree with his conclusion; the 'competing theories' are a waste of time.
That's part of the implied tactics of the teach-the-controversy - simply by taking up time with The-Deity-Did-It there is less time for that evil Darwin.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:43:32pm |
re: #212 HoosierHoops
I agree..But Oakland can be very intimidating to people..
There is nothing "intimidating" about Oakland, unless you are the type who walks into unfamiliar neighborhoods acting like you own the place. That is a surefire way to get the neighborhood welcome; ask the past two generations of Berkeley liberal yuppies lost in the flatlands because they took the wrong 880 exit, and the OPD.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:43:44pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:45:16pm |
re: #222 Dark_Falcon
Go Away Gordon.
BTW, cultural illiterate, you probably meant to say "Get Away, Jordan", the Negro Spiritual.
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:45:52pm |
re: #215 Gus 802
New media is still afraid of tackling evolution. According to them this is still a religious issues and not a scientific issue.
But the WaPo is old media. Not only on this but on many other topics, their current modus operandi appears to be straight from the (ascribed to) Post-modern there-is-no-absolute-truth so let's just accept anything that makes us feel good.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:46:04pm |
lotta love in the air at the ol' lgf tonight
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:46:22pm |
Holly smokes. Looks like people are just looking to fight tonight.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:47:13pm |
re: #224 Dark_Falcon
I understand that. I just hope those monitors confine the,selves to policy and do not attempt to insert themselves into tactical decision making.
Lol confederates always hate the idea of federal monitors.
/Schadenfreude
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makeitstop Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:47:36pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
Holly smokes. Looks like people are just looking to fight tonight.
What do you mean by that?
/
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:49:04pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
Holly smokes. Looks like people are just looking to fight tonight.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:50:10pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:51:20pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
Holly smokes. Looks like people are just looking to fight tonight.
You trying to start something?!
//
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:52:09pm |
Will everybody just shut the hell up? I'm trying to watch the fucking Ed Show
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:53:22pm |
re: #195 Gus 802
The worst part about hanging around Berkeley was dealing with all of those hip rich snobs whose parents helped them get into the place.
The worst part of the east bay is the white liberal bigots/confederates who live in the hills but look down on the flatlands. Those people are also in ready supply in my city. They are the reason I go to the avenues and Clement Street to shop and hang out, since they encroach on my neighborhood, then treat ME like I'm somehow the social disease.
No different from their pretentious, class-hysterical, gated community cousins. Not one drop of difference.
There is no difference between them and their rwnj gun-clutching, weapons-counting counterparts, either; except the former are at least superficially willing to try and deal with themselves...so long as they can see and be seen doing so.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:53:47pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
Holly smokes. Looks like people are just looking to fight tonight.
NO WE'RE NOT!!!
/
lol
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:53:54pm |
re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
You trying to start something?!
//
Yep. Was microwaving some egg rolls.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:54:44pm |
re: #236 SpaceJesus
damn right they do
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Touché Space Jesus!
Stupid conservatives, wtf do they know about fuck-all.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:54:52pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
Holly smokes. Looks like people are just looking to fight tonight.
Well, I'm not the mood for fighting. PLL and I were having a good discussion, and even if people disagreed with me on Oakland everyone was being sane and respectful. So I'm largely going to keep going on that vibe and not worry about getting hated on.
And for those who don't know, "Go Away Gordon" is an Old-School-LGF phrase. It was originally developed to deal with a troller named Gordon, whose logic was bass-ackwards so often that he became known as Nodrog. He was some time there after banned, but he still shows up sometimes to troll theStalkers' "Diary of Daedalus Dorkus".
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:55:49pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:57:06pm |
re: #243 Dark_Falcon
"Diary of
DaedalusDorkus".
The people you are desperate to impress and instead hide behind Charles's skirts to flip off, instead of confronting them directly, you mean.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:57:19pm |
re: #243 Dark_Falcon
I just saw this. You're in the Chicago area, right?
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:57:40pm |
Looks like CPAC 2012 has a really great line-up of events this year
Aside from Sarah Palin being the keynote speaker, you can attend:
- "It’s the Spending, Stupid! Why Is It So Hard to Cut a Trillion Dollars?"
- "The Failure of Multiculturalism: How the pursuit of diversity is weakening the American Identity"
- "Fire From the Heartland: The Awakening of the Conservative Woman" (starring Michele Bachmann, Ann Coulter, and an "all-star cast")
- "You Had Me at Thank You: A thorough review of the importance of a timely and effective acknowledgement of you [sic] donor’s gift"
- "Political Correctness & The Wussification of America"
- "When’s The Last Time Your Database Had a Colonoscopy?: The importance of performing regular file audits and data hygiene for healthy fundraising"
- "NRA University: Arm Yourself with the Facts" (this event advertises "Free NRA Membership & Gear for attendees!" The type of gear is not specified.)
- "Path to Punditry Workshop: How to turn your opinions into a career"
- "'Take Back Wall Street' Youth Rally"
- "Why are U.S. taxpayers spending billions to promote abortion and homosexuality worldwide?"
- "Why Am I Living in My Parent's Basement? How the Obama Administration's Policies Are Detrimental to Young People"
[Link: cpac2012.conservative.org...]
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Gus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 8:57:50pm |
re: #243 Dark_Falcon
Well, I'm not the mood for fighting. PLL and I were having a good discussion, and even if people disagreed with me on Oakland everyone was being sane and respectful. So I'm largely going to keep going on that vibe and not worry about getting hated on.
And for those who don't know, "Go Away Gordon" is an Old-School-LGF phrase. It was originally developed to deal with a troller named Gordon, whose logic was bass-ackwards so often that he became known as Nodrog. He was some time there after banned, but he still shows up sometimes to troll theStalkers' "Diary of
DaedalusDorkus".
Gordon's probably a moderate leftist? I don't remember. He mostly became another obsessed former Lizard.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:00:15pm |
re: #227 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
There is nothing "intimidating" about Oakland, unless you are the type who walks into unfamiliar neighborhoods acting like you own the place. That is a surefire way to get the neighborhood welcome; ask the past two generations of Berkeley liberal yuppies lost in the flatlands because they took the wrong 880 exit, and the OPD.
Really? Come on...I'm not about to get into a row about the rep of Oakland in the Bay area..Really?
I played against Oakland once years ago in High School...We lost..Just saying..
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:01:15pm |
re: #247 SpaceJesus
Looks like CPAC 2012 has a really great line-up of events this year
Aside from Sarah Palin being the keynote speaker, you can attend:
- "It’s the Spending, Stupid! Why Is It So Hard to Cut a Trillion Dollars?"
- "The Failure of Multiculturalism: How the pursuit of diversity is weakening the American Identity"
- "Fire From the Heartland: The Awakening of the Conservative Woman" (starring Michele Bachmann, Ann Coulter, and an "all-star cast")
- "You Had Me at Thank You: A thorough review of the importance of a timely and effective acknowledgement of you [sic] donor’s gift"
- "Political Correctness & The Wussification of America"
- "When’s The Last Time Your Database Had a Colonoscopy?: The importance of performing regular file audits and data hygiene for healthy fundraising"
- "NRA University: Arm Yourself with the Facts" (this event advertises "Free NRA Membership & Gear for attendees!" The type of gear is not specified.)
- "Path to Punditry Workshop: How to turn your opinions into a career"
- "'Take Back Wall Street' Youth Rally"
- "Why are U.S. taxpayers spending billions to promote abortion and homosexuality worldwide?"
- "Why Am I Living in My Parent's Basement? How the Obama Administration's Policies Are Detrimental to Young People"
Rotfl, and the dumb, stupid confederates would be dumb and stupid enough to give their money to hear all of it, too.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:02:28pm |
re: #248 Gus 802
Gordon's probably a moderate leftist? I don't remember. He mostly became another obsessed former Lizard.
He's left-liberal, but not insanely so. But his manner of posting and discussion was and still is hostile and irritating and that is what really got him the gate. He was one of those people who won't succeed until at long last they learn effective communications skills. Among the Stalkers, Gordon (who now calls himself Nodrog (an "own the insult tactic on his part)) adopts their whiny "I was banned for no good reason by that tyrant Charles!" meme.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:03:21pm |
Damn Obama, wussifying America with his multiculturalism and basements
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:03:26pm |
re: #245 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
The people you are desperate to impress and instead hide behind Charles's skirts to flip off, instead of confronting them directly, you mean.
Confronting the Stalkers directly is about as much use as waving at them from over here. You can't cure mental illness over the internet.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:03:55pm |
re: #249 HoosierHoops
Really? Come on...I'm not about to get into a row about the rep of Oakland in the Bay area..Really?
Really.
I played against Oakland once years ago in High School...We lost..Just saying..
Relevance?
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:04:16pm |
re: #247 SpaceJesus
Looks like CPAC 2012 has a really great line-up of events this year
- "The Failure of Multiculturalism: How the pursuit of diversity is weakening the American Identity"- "Political Correctness & The Wussification of America"
Nothing quite like mixing bigotry with juvenile language.
- "When’s The Last Time Your Database Had a Colonoscopy?: The importance of performing regular file audits and data hygiene for healthy fundraising"
I've noticed that wingnuts are preoccupied with things being inserted into various bodily orifices.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:04:38pm |
re: #246 ProLifeLiberal
I just saw this. You're in the Chicago area, right?
Yep, I'm from Chicago and live in one of its near suburbs.
Man, is that guy stupid! Even his mugshot looks stupid.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:06:32pm |
re: #253 SanFranciscoZionist
Confronting the Stalkers directly is about as much use as waving at them from over here. You can't cure mental illness over the internet.
Indeed, you can't, though I doubt trying to get their attention from over here is part of any effort to cure them. Says more about the waver, than anything.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:06:32pm |
re: #256 Dark_Falcon
Yep, I'm from Chicago and live in one of its near suburbs.
Man, is that guy stupid! Even his mugshot looks stupid.
I'm going to guess that some sort of intoxicant was involved in this adventure.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:06:36pm |
re: #255 freetoken
Nothing quite like mixing bigotry with juvenile language.
I've noticed that wingnuts are preoccupied with things being inserted into various bodily orifices.
The guy who titled that presentation likely has a secret collection of Barbara Streisand CDs, if you know what I mean.
/kidding
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:07:39pm |
re: #257 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Indeed, you can't, though I doubt trying to get their attention from over here is part of any effort to cure them. Says more about the waver, than anything.
You and Satt, you just don't understand the pleasures of having a surreal, passive-aggressive relationship with a bunch of lunatics.
(Hi, lunatics!)
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:07:40pm |
re: #259 Dark_Falcon
The guy who titled that presentation likely has a secret collection of Barbara Streisand CDs, if you know what I mean.
Do tell what you know about it.
/not kidding
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:07:55pm |
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:08:16pm |
re: #247 SpaceJesus
Looks like CPAC 2012 has a really great line-up of events this year
Aside from Sarah Palin being the keynote speaker, you can attend:
- "It’s the Spending, Stupid! Why Is It So Hard to Cut a Trillion Dollars?"
- "The Failure of Multiculturalism: How the pursuit of diversity is weakening the American Identity"
- "Fire From the Heartland: The Awakening of the Conservative Woman" (starring Michele Bachmann, Ann Coulter, and an "all-star cast")
- "You Had Me at Thank You: A thorough review of the importance of a timely and effective acknowledgement of you [sic] donor’s gift"
- "Political Correctness & The Wussification of America"
- "When’s The Last Time Your Database Had a Colonoscopy?: The importance of performing regular file audits and data hygiene for healthy fundraising"
- "NRA University: Arm Yourself with the Facts" (this event advertises "Free NRA Membership & Gear for attendees!" The type of gear is not specified.)
- "Path to Punditry Workshop: How to turn your opinions into a career"
- "'Take Back Wall Street' Youth Rally"
- "Why are U.S. taxpayers spending billions to promote abortion and homosexuality worldwide?"
- "Why Am I Living in My Parent's Basement? How the Obama Administration's Policies Are Detrimental to Young People"
re: #250 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Rotfl, and the dumb, stupid confederates would be dumb and stupid enough to give their money to hear all of it, too.
Shit, I thought (at least some of) those seminar titles were parodies, but I looked at the CPAC 2012 schedule myself. Sure as hell, they're spot-on (and a lot more); also, some of the more famous RWNJs will be there, like Breitbart, Ollie North, Jonah Goldberg, and more!
Read here, it will confuse, confound, amuse, and depress you: [Link: cpac2012.conservative.org...]
/bleeecchh
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:08:29pm |
re: #260 SanFranciscoZionist
You and Satt, you just don't understand the pleasures of having a surreal, passive-aggressive relationship with a bunch of lunatics.
Lol you'd be surprised.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:08:43pm |
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austin_blue Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:09:09pm |
re: #247 SpaceJesus
- "Political Correctness & The Wussification of America"
- "NRA University: Arm Yourself with the Facts" (this event advertises "Free NRA Membership & Gear for attendees!" The type of gear is not specified.)
- "'Take Back Wall Street' Youth Rally"
We're wusses? Who knew?
I certainly hope they have free machine gun registration.
Oh, dear. Do they know who they are up against?
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:09:44pm |
That's a big cloud.
Amazon S3 Says it Tripled in Objects Stored Last Year
(762 billion (762,000,000,000) objects in Amazon S3)
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:09:48pm |
re: #247 SpaceJesus
- "Why Am I Living in My Parent's Basement?"
I would recommend this CPAC event for all the stalkers. There is no cure, but maybe they can find comfort in numbers.
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:10:05pm |
re: #268 SpaceJesus
I would recommend this CPAC event for all the stalkers. There is no cure, but maybe they can find comfort in numbers.
Ha!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:12:03pm |
re: #266 austin_blue
- "Political Correctness & The Wussification of America"
- "NRA University: Arm Yourself with the Facts" (this event advertises "Free NRA Membership & Gear for attendees!" The type of gear is not specified.)
- "'Take Back Wall Street' Youth Rally"
We're wusses? Who knew?
I certainly hope they have free machine gun registration.
Oh, dear. Do they know who they are up against?
The NRA presentation will likely be one of the less-crazy ones, since the advice they give actually tends to pay heed to the law.
As for "Take Back Wall Street", I'd bet that "youth rally will end up opposed by a much larger ODC contingent and end up looking rather silly.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:13:19pm |
re: #268 SpaceJesus
I would recommend this CPAC event for all the stalkers. There is no cure, but maybe they can find comfort in numbers.
Yeah, but they'd have to shower and get mom to buy the tickets. So I doubt many of them will be able to attend. [snicker]
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:13:51pm |
I really hope Romney or Gingrich or somebody starts calling Obama the "basement President" The image that conjures up is just too good
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jaunte Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:14:56pm |
re: #226 freetoken
That's part of the implied tactics of the teach-the-controversy - simply by taking up time with The-Deity-Did-It there is less time for that evil Darwin.
And like magic:
Indiana Creationism Bill Is Amended
Amended text: "The governing body of a school corporation may offer instruction on various theories of the origin of life. The curriculum for the course must include theories from multiple religions, which may include, but is not limited to, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Scientology."
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:15:17pm |
re: #263 talon_262
Read here, it will confuse, confound, amuse, and depress you: [Link: cpac2012.conservative.org...]
/bleeecchh
Well, kind of.
When conservatives like CPAC scrape the bottom of the barrel in order to line their benefactors' pockets, it never shocks, confuses or disappoints, though. This is what conservatives give their money to, vote for, in an effort to suppress everyone else in their path. So none of it comes as any surprise, at this point.
You should have seen what they were up to 100 years ago, election of 1912. Filthy, nasty people.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:16:17pm |
re: #273 jaunte
And like magic:
Indiana Creationism Bill Is Amended
Scientology, eh? The jokes for that have already been written, thanks to Trey Parker.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:19:05pm |
re: #273 jaunte
And like magic:
Indiana Creationism Bill Is Amended
Swell. It will take them a year just to get through Hindu creation myths, alone.
Now, what anyone thinks this has to do with actual science, that will be a very interesting argument.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:19:56pm |
re: #268 SpaceJesus
I would recommend this CPAC event for all the stalkers. There is no cure, but maybe they can find comfort in numbers.
Cons like that are deliberately inconsolable, ime.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:22:31pm |
re: #277 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Swell. It will take them a year just to get through Hindu creation myths, alone.
Now, what anyone thinks this has to do with actual science, that will be a very interesting argument.
That's pretty much the point of it, making it so much of a headache to include all those religious alternatives in addition to creationism, that school districts will just say "Fuck it, we'll stick to evolution!"
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:22:34pm |
re: #276 Dark_Falcon
Still have anger headache from the theater thing. My body is trying to teach me a lesson.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:24:04pm |
re: #280 ProLifeLiberal
Still have anger headache from the theater thing. My body is trying to teach me a lesson.
Pain begins in the brain, PLL, or so I have recently heard it said. Get the anger out now, so you can rest later.
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:26:37pm |
re: #277 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Swell. It will take them a year just to get through Hindu creation myths, alone.
Now, what anyone thinks this has to do with actual science, that will be a very interesting argument.
It sounds to me like "teach all of them with evolution or teach none at all".
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austin_blue Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:27:45pm |
re: #273 jaunte
And like magic:
Indiana Creationism Bill Is Amended
Scientology is a religion? I thought it was a bet between Hubbard and Fritz Leiber.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:30:24pm |
re: #109 Killgore Trout
Well, somebody has to fill up the bottom comments list.
LOL! Keep working at it KT, you have some competition!
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:35:16pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
Holly smokes. Looks like people are just looking to fight tonight.
WTF do you mean?
///
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:41:33pm |
No, really. I love it when the dishwasher floods my kitchen with soapy water.
Oh well. At least the floor is clean. =P
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austin_blue Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:45:59pm |
re: #286 Lidane
No, really. I love it when the dishwasher floods my kitchen with soapy water.
Oh well. At least the floor is clean. =P
Lidane poked me! Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:46:07pm |
re: #285 Floral Giraffe
WTF do you mean?
///
Better watch out, folks. Floral can kick your head clean off in a fight!
/giraffe humor
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:47:46pm |
re: #288 Dark_Falcon
And Falcons take pigeons mid air!
Beware!
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Big Joe Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:48:06pm |
re: #286 Lidane
No, really. I love it when the dishwasher floods my kitchen with soapy water.
Oh well. At least the floor is clean. =P
When I was a kid we were out of dishwasher soap so my dad decided to to use some dish soap; our kitchen was 3 feet deep in bubbles on the first wash cycle.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:48:56pm |
re: #287 austin_blue
Lidane poked me! Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
Don't make me turn this thread around!!
///
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:50:10pm |
re: #291 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
99 bottles of beer on the wall.
99 bottles of beer....
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:50:18pm |
re: #279 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
That's pretty much the point of it, making it so much of a headache to include all those religious alternatives in addition to creationism, that school districts will just say "Fuck it, we'll stick to evolution!"
Oh, I know. But afaic, it's the wrong approach.
Religious myths -- anyone's -- belong in comparative religion class, not science class.
Cripes, the dumb white bigots should go visit an IIT and see all the Hindu browns who already figured this much out, millenia before they did. //
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:50:43pm |
re: #290 mracb
When I was a kid we were out of dishwasher soap so my dad decided to to use some dish soap; our kitchen was 3 feet deep in bubbles on the first was cycle.
This is a classic housekeeping error that no one makes twice.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:52:24pm |
re: #290 mracb
When I was a kid we were out of dishwasher soap so my dad decided to to use some dish soap; our kitchen was 3 feet deep in bubbles on the first was cycle.
My old man did one better. We'd put off shopping until we ran out of dishwasher tablets, so he filled the damn thing with Jet Dry. The "solution"? Put about a half dozen towels under the washer til it finished.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:52:41pm |
re: #290 mracb
When I was a kid we were out of dishwasher soap so my dad decided to to use some dish soap; our kitchen was 3 feet deep in bubbles on the first was cycle.
ROFL. I bet your mom loved that.
I'm not sure what happened. I'll call the landlady in the morning so she can send the maintenance guy out.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:54:29pm |
re: #290 mracb
When I was a kid we were out of dishwasher soap so my dad decided to to use some dish soap; our kitchen was 3 feet deep in bubbles on the first wash cycle.
Reminds me of the time I learned the difference between a clove of garlic and a bulb of garlic.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:57:31pm |
re: #297 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Reminds me of the time I learned the difference between a clove of garlic and a bulb of garlic.
And the time I learned the difference between a teaspoon and a tablespoon of cayenne in a recipe. Hah.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:05:33pm |
Seriously gotta stop watching people play games either on live streams or in LPs, because they're tempting me into buying games that I was otherwise going to pass on.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:19:41pm |
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Alexzander Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:46:30pm |
re: #298 Lidane
And the time I learned the difference between a teaspoon and a tablespoon of cayenne in a recipe. Hah.
I like to drink a tablespoon of cayenne in a glass of water every now and then. Clears the system!
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:47:17pm |
Dammit, I'm late to the fight.
*Puts down folded chair in disappointment*
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Alexzander Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:53:04pm |
re: #305 Varek Raith
Dammit, I'm late to the fight.
*Puts down folded chair in disappointment*
*nods*
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:55:59pm |
re: #305 Varek Raith
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, was the best Star Wars movie ever made. The. Best. Evar.
Now pick up that chair, I dare you.
PICK IT UP!!!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:56:34pm |
re: #307 Slumbering Behemoth
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, was the best Star Wars movie ever made. The. Best. Evar.
Now pick up that chair, I dare you.
Heretic, you shall burn!
//
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:58:06pm |
re: #307 Slumbering Behemoth
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, was the best Star Wars movie ever made. The. Best. Evar.
Now pick up that chair, I dare you.
Nah, I'll just drop an asteroid the size of Manhattan on you. Don't move.
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Alexzander Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:59:17pm |
Looks like Walter either trolled himself (through sheer incompetence?) or the readers at the stalker blog with his latest walterleak.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:00:34pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:02:13pm |
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MittDoesNotCompute Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:03:21pm |
re: #310 Alexzander
Looks like Walter either trolled himself (through sheer incompetence?) or the readers at the stalker blog with his latest walterleak.
At this point, I'm having a very hard time finding fucks to give.
Walter wants to throw his lot in over there at the Blog of the Damned? He can have at it...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:06:54pm |
re: #312 Varek Raith
♫Varek is a Jed♪Eye♫
♫Varek is a Jed♪Eye♫
Tell us about your heroic adventures killing 'fearsome' womp rats and running from the Tuskens like a little girl. :snicker:
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Alexzander Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:07:41pm |
re: #314 Slumbering Behemoth
♫Varek is a Jed♪Eye♫
♫Varek is a Jed♪Eye♫Tell us about your heroic adventures killing 'fearsome' womp rats and running from the Tuskens like a little girl. :snicker:
Give him a break.
He has to go pick up some power converters from the toshi station.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:10:24pm |
re: #315 Alexzander
Give him a break.
He has to go pick up some power converters from the toshi station.
Apparently whining like a bitch is the key sign of a great Jedi
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:12:57pm |
re: #310 Alexzander
Looks like Walter either trolled himself (through sheer incompetence?) or the readers at the stalker blog with his latest walterleak.
The guy is senile. The first email he posted from a Lizard here he forgot about in a day or two, and then claimed not to have posted it.
Oh, and on the whole, his little circus show has been a complete flop. Disappointment is very apparent in the comments there.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:13:50pm |
re: #310 Alexzander
Looks like Walter either trolled himself (through sheer incompetence?) or the readers at the stalker blog with his latest walterleak.
Either way, El Oh El. The stalkers deserve it.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:15:23pm |
re: #317 Sergey Romanov
The guy is senile. The first email he posted from a Lizard here he forgot about in a day or two, and then claimed not to have posted it.
Oh, and on the whole, his little circus show was a complete flop. Disappointment is very apparent in the comments there.
What, you don't live in constant, bone-chilling terror that he may reveal your deepest, darkest secrets? That he'll let them find out that you hate Charles just as much as they do?!
///
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Alexzander Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:15:35pm |
re: #317 Sergey Romanov
The guy is senile. The first email he posted from a Lizard here he forgot about in a day or two, and then claimed not to have posted it.
Oh, and on the whole, his little circus show was a complete flop. Disappointment is very apparent in the comments there.
I noticed that too. Disturbing to think he may actually be senile or something similar. But when I saw today's post I really began to suspect so.
I am actually embarrassed for him.
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:18:22pm |
Benny Goodman, "All the cats join in" :
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:26:19pm |
re: #310 Alexzander
Looks like Walter either trolled himself (through sheer incompetence?) or the readers at the stalker blog with his latest walterleak.
Surreal.
But they seem to be having a good time. Hell, who am I to judge the damned?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:26:40pm |
re: #106 Killgore Trout
Wait until Glenn Beck and Breitbart get a hold of this one...
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
Heh. This kinda surprised me this got so many downdings, so I had to upding. Yes, KT has history of throwing stuff out there, but there's also a history of him being downdinged for being KT. Here he at least specifies his reason for posting.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:27:23pm |
re: #319 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
That stalker blog has members who have a history of making some considerably disturbing "rapey, staby" type comments about some of the females here. Specific females.
Not sure what this Walt shit is about, but if it's the real thing, then I feel for anyone who has shared personal information with him.
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freetoken Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:29:23pm |
Late at night... time for bed... which calls for some pretty music, which usually means something French... so here is a bit of Debussy:
[Link: abmp3.com...]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:29:27pm |
re: #323 Sergey Romanov
C'mon, Sergey. It's way more fun to just hate on sight. Feel the Dark Side. Let it flow through you.
/
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:30:49pm |
re: #307 Slumbering Behemoth
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, was the best Star Wars movie ever made. The. Best. Evar.
Now pick up that chair, I dare you.
PICK IT UP!!!
Battlefield LA had more structure.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:31:11pm |
re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth
C'mon, Sergey. It's way more fun to just hate on sight. Feel the Dark Side. Let it flow through you.
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:33:00pm |
re: #319 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
What, you don't live in constant, bone-chilling terror that he may reveal your deepest, darkest secrets? That he'll let them find out that you hate Charles just as much as they do?!
///
I'm much less emotionally invested in Charles than most of the Banned appear to be.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:35:20pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:37:57pm |
re: #330 Jimmah
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:38:06pm |
re: #323 Sergey Romanov
Heh. This kinda surprised me this got so many downdings, so I had to upding. Yes, KT has history of throwing stuff out there, but there's also a history of him being downdinged for being KT. Here he at least specifies his reason for posting.
His "reason's" bullshit, responding to "outrage" that isn't happening from wingnuts that nobody other than other wingnuts give a damn about. It's the same sort of reason he's been giving for months now, about how he's so worked up about the OWS because somebody might see something wrong with it and blame the Democrats.
I just don't ding the posts anymore because, by this point, I'm convinced that he's just doing it for the attention.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:41:56pm |
re: #334 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yep, I just scroll.
He's burned his bridge.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:42:30pm |
re: #334 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I understand this is a "boy who cried wolf" situation, but when KT wants to make a point about Occupy directly, he doesn't shy away from it. So on this one I'll give him a benefit of doubt.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:42:47pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:44:11pm |
re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth
That stalker blog has members who have a history of making some considerably disturbing "rapey, staby" type comments about some of the females here. Specific females.
Not sure what this Walt shit is about, but if it's the real thing, then I feel for anyone who has shared personal information with him.
The Arachne person challenged me to a duel a couple of years ago.
They're not very stable.
And I really do not understand what makes someone use personal correspondence in this manner. It would be tacky if one of us had left him at the altar. As it is...just bizarre.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:44:48pm |
re: #336 Sergey Romanov
I understand this is a "boy who cried wolf" situation, but when KT wants to make a point about Occupy directly, he doesn't shy away from it. So on this one I'll give him a benefit of doubt.
He's been making the same "point" since November. Long after the rest of us admitted that OWS has become pointless and abandoned support of it. And the "point" is that, if he can find a way to connect a crime to Occupy, he will if only to reiterate just how "evil" it is.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:46:50pm |
re: #339 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
He's been making the same "point" since November. Long after the rest of us admitted that OWS has become pointless and abandoned support of it. And the "point" is that, if he can find a way to connect a crime to Occupy, he will if only to reiterate just how "evil" it is.
You don't need to reiterate this to me, of all people. I know what he has been doing since October (sic).
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:50:48pm |
re: #340 Sergey Romanov
You don't need to reiterate this to me, of all people. I know what he has been doing since October (sic).
My point exactly.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:50:51pm |
re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth
Personally, I don't get it. It's so weird to obsess about a blog you got banned from. It's like the people who quit an MMO for whatever reason then spend years bitching about how the devs screwed up the game like a game company ruined their life or something.
Oh well. Not my problem.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:53:00pm |
Ugh. Fuck OWS. This whinging about someone who links actual (granted, mostly negative) news on the subject is childish and tiresome.
Where are the folks linking mostly positive, actual news on the subject?
Yeah, thought so.
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Alexzander Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:55:28pm |
re: #342 Lidane
Personally, I don't get it. It's so weird to obsess about a blog you got banned from. It's like the people who quit an MMO for whatever reason then spend years bitching about how the devs screwed up the game like a game company ruined their life or something.
Oh well. Not my problem.
Perhaps your example is actually helpful. Like some MMO games, many lizards invested huge amounts of time into LGF. They are having trouble letting go of that part of their identity.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:55:31pm |
re: #341 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
My point exactly.
And my point is that there's nothing objectionable about that comment at this point of time. The wolf has already arrived, figuratively speaking.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:57:49pm |
re: #343 Slumbering Behemoth
Ugh. Fuck OWS. This whinging about someone who links actual (granted, mostly negative) news on the subject is childish and tiresome.
Where are the folks linking mostly positive, actual news on the subject?
Yeah, thought so.
That's just it, nobody by Killgore gives a shit anymore. If it wasn't for him dragging negative articles in and making them out as the big, earth-shaking event...none of us would know what was going on. Even the wingnuts don't really give a damn anymore.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 30, 2012 11:58:41pm |
re: #343 Slumbering Behemoth
Ugh. Fuck OWS. This whinging about someone who links actual (granted, mostly negative) news on the subject is childish and tiresome.
Where are the folks linking mostly positive, actual news on the subject?
Yeah, thought so.
You like Star Wars Ep1.
Your argument is invalid.
/
:P
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:00:16am |
re: #346 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
That's just it, nobody by Killgore gives a shit anymore.
Bullshit. By the oodles of comments/dings that follow any given link, and the amount of talk circulating after the fact? People obviously are giving a shit.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:00:31am |
re: #344 Alexzander
Perhaps your example is actually helpful. Like some MMO games, many lizards invested huge amounts of time into LGF. They are having trouble letting go of that part of their identity.
They were pretty pathetic about it too. Look at this old blog post from stalker "Macker":
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2007
A CONTRIBUTING LIZARDOID
Filed under: Other Blogs |
Even though I don’t pass along lots of news content to Charles over at LGF, I have made some observations about the changes he’s been making there (in my opinion, they have all been positive), and how those changes interact with the Lizardoid community. Sometimes (as in any system) these can result in user abuse. In one thread, someone was rating their own comments for no particular reason, I made a common-sense observation, and here’s Charles’ reply:re: #226 Macker
Charles, I don’t think we should be allowed to rate our own posts. Let others judge our comments by our content.
Good idea. I just changed the code to do that.
Man, I feel good. Thanks Charles! Next time I get to LA, I want to buy you the alcoholic beverage of your choice!
Posted by Macker at 12:56 MST
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:02:36am |
re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth
Bullshit. By the oodles of comments that follow any given link, and the amount of talk circulating after the fact? People obviously are giving a shit.
Read the comments, the bulk of them are us telling Killgore to knock that shit off and give up his obsession, because that's what it's become for him, an obsession. He's become Don Quixote, forever tilting at windmills and insisting they're giants.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:09:45am |
*muttergrumblemutter* Yeah, think it's about time for a reboot.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:10:26am |
re: #354 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
*muttergrumblemutter* Yeah, think it's about time for a reboot.
yo mutter...!
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:11:12am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:11:48am |
re: #352 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The Tyranny of the Majority, eh?
/
Crap. I know I'm not always here, so it's entirely possible that I've missed some things, but most of what I have seen linked is done so with little comment. Maybe one sentence or more.
Tilting at windmills? Maybe that goes both ways.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:12:42am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:14:42am |
re: #357 Slumbering Behemoth
The Tyranny of the Majority, eh?
/Crap. I know I'm not always here, so it's entirely possible that I've missed some things, but most of what I have seen linked is done so with little comment. Maybe one sentence or more.
Tilting at windmills? Maybe that goes both ways.
At this point, it doesn't matter. People have gotten worked up into a lather about Killgore and OWS, and no matter what he links, he's gonna get a few screams out of it from the people he got riled up.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:15:22am |
re: #357 Slumbering Behemoth
The Tyranny of the Majority, eh?
/Crap. I know I'm not always here, so it's entirely possible that I've missed some things, but most of what I have seen linked is done so with little comment. Maybe one sentence or more.
Tilting at windmills? Maybe that goes both ways.
Most of the posts I leave without comment, because they're usually the same "Occupy protester acts dumb, cops kick ass" and it's not worth it. But when the story's only connection to Occupy is a one-paragraph bit about arguing over his hanging around the camp, that's stretching credibility to the breaking point.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:15:33am |
I'm gonna start linking stories about why KT is such a dick.
Lets see how many "Fuck Yeah, Dude"s I get versus "Dude, You're Obsessed"s.
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Kragar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:20:38am |
re: #361 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm gonna start linking stories about why KT is such a dick.
Lets see how many "Fuck Yeah, Dude"s I get versus "Dude, You're Obsessed"s.
How will you measure scrollbys?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:21:55am |
re: #359 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, I can remember the awesome numbers of guffaws, "atta boys", and back patting that went on when he linked this bit of comedy back in the day.
/none
Same zealotry, different topics. So it goes.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:22:36am |
re: #362 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How will you measure scrollbys?
With my dick, not yours. Obviously.
:P
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Kragar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:23:36am |
re: #364 Slumbering Behemoth
With my dick, not yours. Obviously.
:P
Obviously.
You would run out of scroll bar if you used mine.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:24:21am |
re: #365 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Pfft! Hahaha! Well played.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:24:30am |
re: #357 Slumbering Behemoth
Now, I mostly stopped giving crap after OWS jumped the shark (I mean, what's the point anymore?).
However, it's not correct that KT got beaten up mostly for comment-less items. He did post a lot of insulting BS of his own, right from October. It was in this context his items were read, which sometimes went without comment, and sometimes with snarky one-liners to rile-up people. The bad blood that continues is of his own making. (Though I just think it's time to stop overreacting to it, perhaps, in light of current events and whatnot).
I'm sure if someone posted only negative items about, say, Israel, interspersed with insulting generalizations about Israeli policy and citizens, he would be beaten up too.
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Kragar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:25:01am |
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:26:13am |
re: #361 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm gonna start linking stories about why KT is such a dick.
Lets see how many "Fuck Yeah, Dude"s I get versus "Dude, You're Obsessed"s.
Far be it from me to speak for any other Lizards, but to me, I think the point about KT is that he made his points and views about Occupy crystal clear months ago. Little has changed, yet if there's a story even tangentially related to Occupy, he's on it like white on rice and browbeating everyone in the room with it.
There's only so long you can listen to a record skipping before it drives one batty.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:28:43am |
re: #360 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Most of the posts I leave without comment, because they're usually the same "Occupy protester acts dumb, cops kick ass" and it's not worth it. But when the story's only connection to Occupy is a one-paragraph bit about arguing over his hanging around the camp, that's stretching credibility to the breaking point.
That story, yes, strains connection beyond anything realistic.
I don't know. We had some really stupid shit said here over OWS. Killgore carries on, and everyone else seems to be unwilling to discuss it further.
Meanwhile, of course, these folks are burning flags on the steps of Oakland City Hall, which probably has some deep message about economic equality in it somewhere, but damned if I can see it.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:29:20am |
re: #369 talon_262
Meh. Little has changed in the OWS crowd. They're still the same craptastic group of dysfunctional fuckwads that they always were, yet only more distilled.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:29:38am |
re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, I can remember the awesome numbers of guffaws, "atta boys", and back patting that went on when he linked this bit of comedy back in the day.
/noneSame zealotry, different topics. So it goes.
I said he was a shit-disturber a few days ago, but he disagrees.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:32:37am |
re: #371 Slumbering Behemoth
Meh. Little has changed in the OWS crowd. They're still the same craptastic group of dysfunctional fuckwads that they always were, yet only more distilled.
I supported them in the beginning, same as I did the Tea Party when it first began, because I had real hope that it would effect change in the political system.
So far, the only "change" that's happened is a lot of nice real estate has ended up turning into hobo camps. The whole decentralized, "power to the people" bit worked great when it served as a shield against criticisms of being somebody's astroturf. Now? It just means that nothing getting done because nobody wants to agree on what should be done.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:33:20am |
But we still have a resident punching bag, so that's fun. I guess.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:35:00am |
re: #375 Slumbering Behemoth
But we still have a resident punching bag, so that's fun. I guess.
I'd rather he wasn't, but if he chooses to be, then that's his choice. When he wants to contribute intelligent conversation, he's great to be around.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:35:40am |
re: #371 Slumbering Behemoth
Meh. Little has changed in the OWS crowd. They're still the same craptastic group of dysfunctional fuckwads that they always were, yet only more distilled.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that Occupy has driven most of the sane people away and become the province of shit-stirrers, but the "the 99% vs. the 1%" and how that subject effects our society is one of the few things that have come out of Occupy that's worth pursuing.
The messengers may have turned out to be pieces of shit, by and large, but at least one of their messages have some validity.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:35:46am |
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:38:27am |
re: #376 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I'd rather he wasn't, but if he chooses to be, then that's his choice. When he wants to contribute intelligent conversation, he's great to be around.
I'll second this.
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:42:20am |
re: #61 negativ
Suggested non-reporter moderators:
Salman Rushdie
Stephen Fry
Neil de Grasse Tyson
Jello Biafra
Eugenie Scott
a cardboard cutout of Christopher Hitchens
Bill Gates
Sergey Brin (Google co-founder)
a Very Special Guest, yet to be announced
Is the VSG one Jon Stewart maybe? He'd rock, although I dunno if they'd believe he wasn't a reporter.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:42:36am |
We all know how the Arab Spring turned out. Now suppose someone would post, day and night, about how vile the undemocratic Arab culture is, how much there is all rapey stabby staff going on (Tahrir square rape, anyone?), how the revolutionaries only break stuff and shit on the streets, how they hate Jews and Israel, how they beat up the police, etc., etc.
And all this from day one, without giving them a chance. And moreover, would still post all this stuff to "drive the point home" after all the elections etc.
Would there be a grain of truth from the start, in that the protest might not lead to ponies pooping rainbows? Sure. Would such a person lose a wad of "respect points"? You can be certain.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:49:39am |
re: #381 Sergey Romanov
We all know how the Arab Spring turned out. Now suppose someone would post, day and night, about how vile the undemocratic Arab culture is, how much there is all rapey stabby staff going on (Tahrir square rape, anyone?), how the revolutionaries only break stuff and shit on the streets, how they hate Jews and Israel, how they beat up the police, etc., etc.
And all this from day one, without giving them a chance. And moreover, would still post all this stuff to "drive the point home" after all the elections etc.
Would there be a grain of truth from the start, in that the protest might not lead to ponies pooping rainbows? Sure. Would such a person lose a wad of "respect points"? You can be certain.
Base human nature, when in large groups, is to act like assholes; the trick is suppress that tendency.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:50:12am |
re: #382 talon_262
Base human nature, when in large groups, is to act like assholes; the trick is suppress that tendency.
Frak you!
///
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:51:45am |
Even the USA, with over 200 years of democracy, has recently demonstrated how difficult it is to govern a country effectively under a democratic system. Why do we expect miracles from people who have known only dictatorships?
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:53:27am |
re: #384 ralphieboy
Even the USA, with over 200 years of democracy, has recently demonstrated how difficult it is to govern a country effectively under a democratic system. Why do we expect miracles from people who have known only dictatorships?
Their failure feeds our sense of superiority?
/half
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:55:52am |
re: #384 ralphieboy
Even the USA, with over 200 years of democracy, has recently demonstrated how difficult it is to govern a country effectively under a democratic system. Why do we expect miracles from people who have known only dictatorships?
Because we think that, because we imposed democracy on Iraq and Afghanistan so quickly, that it should be "easy." That's assuming you're not paying attention as Iraq and Afghanistan show just what it's like when we're not around to keep holding their hand and when we're not dotting every i for them respectively.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:56:27am |
re: #385 Jimmi the Grey
Their failure feeds our sense of superiority?
/half
We had no moral qualms about tolerating or even supporting corrupt dictatorships, but at some point, these figures are no longer conducive to our political ends.
So then we drop them (or actively take them out) and wonder why chaos follows in the power vacuum.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 12:58:55am |
re: #377 talon_262
The messengers may have turned out to be pieces of shit, by and large, but at least one of their messages have some validity.
Indeed. But they were tainted from the start.
They have one message that I do sympathize with. Income disparity.
You know who else does. Newt. I agree with his statement about illegal immigrant deportation tearing apart families.
Does that mean I support his POTUS bid? No.
Does that mean I will vote for him. No.
Does that mean I will cease to criticize him? No.
There is one point that I agree with Newt on. There is one point that I agree with OWS on. I don't support either, because they both suck a giant wad of irrelevance.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:07:07am |
The difference being that OWS is a disparate group of people with no set agenda, no fixed hierarchy or leadership: the only thing they have in common is that they are out protesting at the same time and place.
Newt is one person, fully in control of his own message.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:10:30am |
re: #389 ralphieboy
The difference being that OWS is a disparate group of people with no set agenda, no fixed hierarchy or leadership: the only thing they have in common is that they are out protesting at the same time and place.
Newt is one person, fully in control of his own message.
And someone who has made a lot of money poisoning the political discourse of this country (and being a general asshole) for decades.
Occupy is a bunch of pikers in comparison to Newt, Rush, and the rest of the "conservative intelligensia".
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:17:29am |
re: #389 ralphieboy
That fallacy lasts as long as...
Well, as long as folks were willing to believe that same crap about Anon. And perhaps it might be true for the most part, or the tiniest part. But for any part, small or large, the overall theme is not a positive one.
"Leaderless Movement". Yeah. Same with Anon. We fuck shit up, and by virtue of some blender-bullshit anarchist philosophy, none of us are responsible for shitty/illegal acts within our ranks.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:19:51am |
Think it's a difference of opinion. Some choose to believe that OWS started out a good idea that went bad, others think it was bad from the start and only showed its true colors later. Either way, the end result is the same.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:20:11am |
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:20:18am |
re: #391 Slumbering Behemoth
"Leaderless Movement". Yeah. Same with Anon. We fuck shit up, and by virtue of some blender-bullshit anarchist philosophy, none of us are responsible for shitty/illegal acts within our ranks.
There are super PACs, which we are not allowed to communicate with...they make baseless attacks on our politcal opponents, and we are not responsible...
Granted, there are organized people behind OWS, but overall, it is a group of individuals; the only thing they have in common is that they occupy the same place at the same time, they are often not even protesting the same thing if they are protesting at all.
Makes them easy to attack and easier to discredit.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:24:47am |
re: #393 Slumbering Behemoth
re: #390 talon_262
Just to keep it clear.
I am not comparing Newt with OWS, I am only using both bags of shit to illustrate how I can find a diamond in said bags of shit, while discarding the rest of the bags entirely.
It's the "a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually" syndrome; even the most repugnant people have a valid POV of something every now and then.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:25:48am |
re: #394 ralphieboy
There are super PACs, which we are not allowed to communicate with...they make baseless attacks on our politcal opponents, and we are not responsible...
Granted, there are organized people behind OWS, but overall, it is a group of individuals; the only thing they have in common is that they occupy the same place at the same time, they are often not even protesting the same thing if they are protesting at all.
Makes them easy to attack and easier to discredit.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:30:26am |
re: #397 Slumbering Behemoth
One thing it has succeeded in: it makes them nearly impossible for us to ignore.
And if there is one thing that American politics has taught us it is that there there is no such thing as bad publicity. Those who shout the loudest and garner applause for the most outrageous comments are going to do well in the next primary...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:34:39am |
re: #398 ralphieboy
And if there is one thing that
American politicshuman behavior has taught us it is that there there is no such thing as bad publicity.
FTFY
;)
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 1:35:44am |
re: #399 Slumbering Behemoth
FTFY
;)
shouting and intimidation have almost always trumped reasoned discourse, yes...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 2:04:23am |
re: #400 ralphieboy
*cough* Sorry, went off on a Bjork trip. Won't happen again. *cough*
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 2:13:03am |
re: #401 Slumbering Behemoth
Loved the Sugarcubes, never cared much for Björk solo.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 2:22:04am |
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:24:13am |
To the rescue!!
Morning, all. I'm back in place after a 10-day inspection tour of some daughters and grandchildren. First decent coffee (mine) in more than a week.
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:29:43am |
re: #405 Decatur Deb
Good to see you DD. Did the kids all pass the inspection?
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:30:45am |
re: #406 RogueOne
Good to see you DD. Did the kids all pass the inspection?
"Complies with standards but needs improvement".
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:33:49am |
re: #406 RogueOne
Good to see you DD. Did the kids all pass the inspection?
(Actually was doing long-range emergency babysitting while one dau was working an epublishing convention in NYC and another was cleaning a useless husband out of the house.)
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Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:36:28am |
re: #405 Decatur Deb
To the rescue!!
Morning, all. I'm back in place after a 10-day inspection tour of some daughters and grandchildren. First decent coffee (mine) in more than a week.
I saw you on satellite but you didn't wave back!
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:37:25am |
re: #408 Decatur Deb
Useless husbands are a drag. I have 3 sisters and I'm looking at another wedding and one more divorce this year. If a family member has been married 3 times I wonder how much obligation I'm under to attend a 4th?
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:40:09am |
re: #409 Varek Raith
I saw you on satellite but you didn't wave back!
Was afraid it would be taken as a hostile, sudden, gesture.
Missed a good bit of LGF while traveling with a clumsy laptop and poor connections. I caught the end of albusteve--hated that. This is about the point in the 2008 presidential political cycle where I came to lurk on LGF and a dozen or so other sites. Looks like another bumpy ride this year.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:41:21am |
re: #410 RogueOne
Useless husbands are a drag. I have 3 sisters and I'm looking at another wedding and one more divorce this year. If a family member has been married 3 times I wonder how much obligation I'm under to attend a 4th?
You should have gifted one place setting at a time.
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:45:35am |
re: #412 Decatur Deb
You should have gifted one place setting at a time.
If I started doing that now she would think it was funny. It's a shame, she's a sweet lady but she has horrible taste in men. She loves douchebags and cops and if she can find a combo (douchebag cop like her ex and current) she's quick to the alter.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:48:05am |
re: #413 RogueOne
If I started doing that now she would think it was funny. It's a shame, she's a sweet lady but she has horrible taste in men. She loves douchebags and cops and if she can find a combo (douchebag cop like her ex and current) she's quick to the alter.
Hate it when in-laws can return fire proficiently.
I told both daughters not to marry their husbands--so far I'm batting .500. That'll keep you in the Majors.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:49:46am |
re: #408 Decatur Deb
(Actually was doing long-range emergency babysitting while one dau was working an epublishing convention in NYC and another was cleaning a useless husband out of the house.)
What does your daughter do in the epublishing world?
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:53:57am |
re: #415 Obdicut
What does your daughter do in the epublishing world?
A weird second-third-fourth job as a writer for a Vancouver blog. They send her to East Coast events to do interviews and write articles for minimum wage but fun travel ops. The last couple were at the Javits Center, but the next is in Frankfurt. She's trying to talk them into the Bologna Book Fair.
In real life she's the English and Biology departments at an Alabama children's jail.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:54:38am |
re: #391 Slumbering Behemoth
The difference is that OWS wasn't tainted from the start, and income disparity was their main message (so there is no analogy with Gingrich). So it was something positive. Predictably, it evolved into something else, but there's no need to rewrite history to "taint" OWS from the start.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:57:39am |
re: #411 Decatur Deb
Was afraid it would be taken as a hostile, sudden, gesture.
Missed a good bit of LGF while traveling with a clumsy laptop and poor connections. I caught the end of albusteve--hated that. This is about the point in the 2008 presidential political cycle where I came to lurk on LGF and a dozen or so other sites. Looks like another bumpy ride this year.
An interesting question. Suppose Romney wins. Folks here and there stated that they're basically "respect the President" people - no matter who the President is. To me, the person matters over the office. Sure, I would give Romney the benefit of doubt, but only until the first (predictable) fuck-up. And then it will be interesting to see the general opinion vector here. Would Romney-bashing be frowned upon? Etc., etc.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:57:40am |
re: #416 Decatur Deb
Wow. I can't imagine being a juvie teacher. That'd drain me, burn me out within a year, I think.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:58:57am |
re: #417 Sergey Romanov
The difference is that OWS wasn't tainted from the start, and income disparity was their main message (so there is no analogy with Gingrich). So it was something positive. Predictably, it evolved into something else, but there's no need to rewrite history to "taint" OWS from the start.
OWS began mostly protesting the right things for mostly the right reasons, but the inherent disconnect between the non-voting members and the politically engaged members always doomed it from the start, I think. When you have consensus-based decision making and a built-in community divide, not much is going to get done.
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 3:59:08am |
re: #418 Sergey Romanov
......Would Romney-bashing be frowned upon? Etc., etc.
No. Hating on the president is a time honored tradition.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:01:25am |
re: #421 RogueOne
No. Hating on the president is a time honored tradition.
Obama-bashing is frowned-upon currently. And for right reasons too, but I'm an Obama-supporter, so I'm biased in this respect. How soon would such criticism (esp. from foreigners) be shhh'd upon in case Romney became the prez?
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:03:01am |
re: #418 Sergey Romanov
An interesting question. Suppose Romney wins. Folks here and there stated that they're basically "respect the President" people - no matter who the President is. To me, the person matters over the office. Sure, I would give Romney the benefit of doubt, but only until the first (predictable) fuck-up. And then it will be interesting to see the general opinion vector here. Would Romney-bashing be frowned upon? Etc., etc.
I would be totally hostile to Romney and his policies, but I would refer to him as 'President Romney' as often as I refer to Obama as 'The President', or 'The Prez'. As an Army civilian I had Carter, Reagan, and a couple Bushes as CINC. The Army's posture towards civilian leaders they despise is one of their better traits.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:05:37am |
re: #419 Obdicut
Wow. I can't imagine being a juvie teacher. That'd drain me, burn me out within a year, I think.
It's depressing, she says, with very few victories. OTOH, it's a lot safer than her time in the public county schools--she has only been injured there once, and that was by a guard during unarmed combat training.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:05:43am |
re: #422 Sergey Romanov
Depends on what the bashing was based on, I think.
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:07:34am |
re: #422 Sergey Romanov
The goodwill given a new president would last approximately (if my math is correct) 22 hours.... Within 3 months the right side of the blogosphere will be complaining "it's never been this bad!"
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:08:33am |
re: #425 Obdicut
Depends on what the bashing was based on, I think.
In a better world, maybe. Although I do trust that if Romney took on civil liberties, such as the right to choose or right to marry, there would be condemnation.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:08:41am |
re: #422 Sergey Romanov
Obama-bashing is frowned-upon currently. And for right reasons too, but I'm an Obama-supporter, so I'm biased in this respect. How soon would such criticism (esp. from foreigners) be shhh'd upon in case Romney became the prez?
There is criticism and there is bashing. I had no patience or tolerance for "Bush is Hitler!" and "Impeach Bush!" ranters, just as I have no tolerance for people who compare Obama to Hitler or Stalin, criticize his personal tastes and home decoration choices or pick on Michelle for advising us to eat healthy.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:10:44am |
re: #428 ralphieboy
There is criticism and there is bashing. I had no patience or tolerance for "Bush is Hitler!" and "Impeach Bush!" ranters, just as I have no tolerance for people who compare Obama to Hitler or Stalin, criticize his personal tastes and home decoration choices or pick on Michelle for advising us to eat healthy.
There is "Bush is Hitler", and there's general disrespect.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:16:15am |
re: #429 Sergey Romanov
There is "Bush is Hitler", and there's general disrespect.
"Bush is Hitler" showed a pretty profound ignorance of both Bush and Hitler. He seemed one of the dullest tools we've put in office in my time, though the way he let his buddies rip the treasury for eight years and then into the forseeable future took some kind of talent.
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:20:57am |
After Mass Arrests, New Criticism of Oakland Police
Occupy Oakland demonstration sees the most Alameda County protesters jailed in 30 years
[Link: www.baycitizen.org...]
The large number of arrests is renewing criticism of how Oakland police have responded to Occupy demonstrations. A video taken Saturday shows an officer hitting a protester who is lying on the ground.
Two weeks ago, court-appointed monitors wrote in their quarterly report that the police response to Occupy Oakland protests this fall raised "serious concerns" about the department's ability to "hold true to the best practices in American policing," and promised a thorough investigation of the matter. And last week, a judge moved the police department closer to a federal takeover, writing that he was in "disbelief" that the department had yet to finish a series of court-ordered reforms.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:23:07am |
re: #431 RogueOne
They really haven't made much progress on the reforms, which is kind of startling. Maybe the mayor and police chief are just clueless, and actually want the feds to take over the department since it's so screwed up.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:23:35am |
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:25:24am |
re: #432 Obdicut
They really haven't made much progress on the reforms, which is kind of startling. Maybe the mayor and police chief are just clueless, and actually want the feds to take over the department since it's so screwed up.
Not watching closely, but get the impression the mayor (ex-mayor?) was not getting much done with the police or any other problem. Haven't heard much defense of her.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:32:17am |
After someone has failed to fix a problem for six builds running, what do you think the odds are that he actually fixed it this time?
I've got a good feeling about this!
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:33:19am |
re: #433 Sergey Romanov
Take the clowns over and be down with it.
(^^^ that's general disrespect)
It's oakland, what are you going to do?
(NSFW) Image: m12wO.jpg
I think I just found my new avatar....
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:38:56am |
Mornin' all. Just off the night shift. Don't know whether to have a beer or go for a walk.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:39:00am |
re: #436 RogueOne
It's oakland, what are you going to do?
(NSFW) Image: m12wO.jpgI think I just found my new avatar...
Wife votes "No" on the Oakland Adonis.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:40:05am |
re: #437 Amory Blaine
Mornin' all. Just off the night shift. Don't know whether to have a beer or go for a walk.
Do you have an Open Container law? If not, no problem.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:41:02am |
re: #435 Obdicut
After someone has failed to fix a problem for six builds running, what do you think the odds are that he actually fixed it this time?
I've got a good feeling about this!
What are you doing?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:41:43am |
re: #436 RogueOne
ew?
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:42:22am |
re: #439 Decatur Deb
Do you have an Open Container law? If not, no problem.
We do have an OC law. lol. I just moved in here. Just what I need: "Hey Mabel!! Our new neighbor is a raging alcoholic!!." Then again this is Milwaukee...
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:44:10am |
re: #442 Amory Blaine
We do have an OC law. lol. I just moved in here. Just what I need: "Hey Mabel!! Our new neighbor is a raging alcoholic!!." Then again this is Milwaukee...
Everyone here in Baja Alabama seems willing to be fooled by a Good Baptist paper bag.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:47:09am |
Boker tov, lizardia!
What are we talking about this morning?
Does anyone watch that Fox show, "Alcatraz"? Have you noticed how the girl cop lets the bad guy get the drop on her every fucking time? Meanwhile I suppose they are going to not answer any of the viewer's questions for as long as this show is on the air, like, "who is time-traveling all these convicted felons, why are they doing it, HOW are they doing it, how do the felons know how to function so excellently 50 years in the future," etc. They are saving all of this up for the Grand Finale. The Mysterious Indian Lady is behind it all, maybe she's some Goddess of Death who wants to fuck with everybody.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:47:53am |
Nice avatar Deb. You do that on a bomber jacket?
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:49:06am |
re: #440 Sergey Romanov
What are you doing?
Implementing an interactive children's toy. Specifically, trying to get the audio to work right.
And it turned out the thing wasn't fixed yet.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:49:18am |
I don't watch cop, doctor or lawyer shows. Unless there's treats.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:50:10am |
Sun is almost up--It's time to see if the hoophouse garden survived being abandoned for more than a week. The recording thermometer says "fat chance".
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:53:34am |
re: #446 Amory Blaine
Nice avatar Deb. You do that on a bomber jacket?
It's an A2 jacket hanging in a little museum at a wartime base in East Anglia. It belonged to the regular crew navigator on the Decatur Deb, who was not on board when the plane went down.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:53:38am |
re: #448 Amory Blaine
I don't watch cop, doctor or lawyer shows. Unless there's treats.
All the cop and doctor shows have a nice, multicultural assortment of eye candy.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 4:57:38am |
re: #447 Obdicut
Flash or something else?
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:01:35am |
re: #452 Sergey Romanov
Flash or something else?
Oh, something else, a proprietary program based off of Eclipse.
So all the files have to be encoded just the right way, referenced just the right way, etc. etc.
Theoretically, art and audio should check all their crap before delivering it, bu they're constantly overworked so that rarely happens.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:02:47am |
re: #430 Decatur Deb
"Bush is Hitler" showed a pretty profound ignorance of both Bush and Hitler. He seemed one of the dullest tools we've put in office in my time, though the way he let his buddies rip the treasury for eight years and then into the forseeable future took some kind of talent.
I often pointed out that Adolf Schickelgruber served his adopted country with distinction in WWI and was thrice decorated, whereas G W Bush used family connections to get into the Air national Guard and then didn't even show up for duty there...
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Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:03:48am |
I found this entertaining, L.L. Bean endorsed Ron Paul in Maine.
[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]
Who new that primaries are like a chess game and NASCAR combined?! Its not how many you win, its who got the most points and how to outfox your opponent. Go Paul! /
On a side note, the L.L. Bean store in Freeport is effin awesome, they even sell used guns! Like a kid in a candy store.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:04:47am |
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:05:47am |
re: #455 ralphieboy
I often pointed out that Adolf Schickelgruber served his adopted country with distinction in WWI and was thrice decorated, whereas G W Bush used family connections to get into the Air national Guard and then didn't even show up for duty there...
No, Adolf was a REMF.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:06:50am |
Scenes from a multiverse gives a wink to the GOP debates.
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:08:06am |
re: #457 Shropshire_Slasher
This might be interesting to you. I'm working on a '43 Ford 9N Airplane Tug this week. New construction slows down this time of year so I'm helping a buddy get it ready for an auction in a couple weeks.
Looks sort of like this, only rusty:
Image: 1942ford9n7.jpg
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:09:36am |
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:13:52am |
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:18:45am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:19:20am |
re: #464 Shropshire_Slasher
Never seen a 9N like that!
Looks like it's a bolt-on rig of some sort. Pretty impressive find. My former next-door-neighbor and brother from another mother would love to get his hands on that.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:21:24am |
Family Research Council Does Not Even Approve Of Fictional Gay People
In a new Star Wars game, the biggest threat to the empire may be homosexual activists! Hello, I’m Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C. In a galaxy not so far far away, Star Wars gamers have already gone to the dark side. The new video game, Star Wars: The Old Republic, has added a special feature: gay relationships…On the game’s website, there are more than 300 pages of comments–a lot of them expressing anger that their kids will be exposed to this Star Warped way of thinking. You can join them by logging on and speaking up. It’s time to show companies who the Force is really with!
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:22:30am |
re: #467 Varek Raith
Family Research Council Does Not Even Approve Of Fictional Gay People
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
What is this I don't even.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:26:06am |
re: #468 thedopefishlives
What is this I don't even.
Remember Dan Quayle getting upset about a TV show character having a child out of wedlock?
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:27:49am |
re: #465 Alouette
Wait, you think the Killian memos are authentic?
Whether Bush showed up for duty or not, he nonetheless pulled strings to get out of going to Vietnam.
But that was not enough to damn him, and in a brilliant piece of Rovian evil political engineering, managed to turn John Kerry's service record in Vietnam against him.
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iossarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:28:10am |
I must say that I am always upset to see TV characters dancing on the Sabbath.
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RogueOne Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:28:36am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:29:28am |
re: #469 ralphieboy
Remember Dan Quayle getting upset about a TV show character having a child out of wedlock?
Actually, I don't. Dan Quayle is just a shade before my time. However, it doesn't surprise me, although it is amusing. I tend to chuckle when people get bent entirely out of shape over fictional universes, especially because the point strikes close to home for me. Both my parents and the Mrs. Fish's parents are strict conservative Christians, whereas we ourselves have mellowed out a bit and become somewhat more liberal. When the parental units found out that we played World of Warcraft, they wrote a long letter explaining all the evil things contained in that game and demanding we cease and desist at once, "for the sake of our souls."
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:30:27am |
re: #471 iossarian
I must say that I am always upset to see TV characters dancing on the Sabbath.
You watch TV on the Sabbath!
/clutches pearls
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:31:39am |
25 Chinese nationals taken hostage in Sinai
An Egyptian intelligence official says armed militants have taken 25 Chinese factory workers hostage in the northern Sinai Peninsula.
He says a group of armed men belonging to an al-Qaida inspired group attacked a bus taking the Chinese workers home. He said on Tuesday that the armed men forced the workers off the bus, loaded them into cars and took them hostage.
The group is demanding release of militants jailed for a 2005 bombing in Sharm el-Sheikh at the tip of the Egyptian Sinai.
This is really bad for egypt. After a year of unrest, increase in terrorism and an Islamist government the country could easily become an unsafe, terrorist hub and general shit hole.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:31:52am |
re: #473 thedopefishlives
Somebody even pointed out to him that at least she did not get a fictional abortion...
I think that one of the things that wrecked the Bush/Quayle campaign in 1992 was his convention speech touting his view of "traditional family values".
America had already moved on from that patriarchal view of the world, although the GOP still clings to it, at least in their rhetoric...
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:33:45am |
re: #476 ralphieboy
There's nothing wrong with so-called "traditional family values", in private. However, using it as a campaign stump is utterly moronic. The role of government is not to enforce an arbitrary set of moral rules on people.
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iossarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:34:06am |
re: #474 Alouette
You watch TV on the Sabbath!
/clutches pearls
NEVER.
I mean, I watch TV on non-holy days. But sometimes the shows are set on the Sabbath.
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iossarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:36:46am |
re: #473 thedopefishlives
My parents once asked my brother and I whether there was anything "occult" about Dungeons and Dragons. We said no and they were cool with that.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:38:06am |
re: #480 iossarian
My parents once asked my brother and I whether there was anything "occult" about Dungeons and Dragons. We said no and they were cool with that.
The funny thing about the whole thing is, my parents bought the game for me in the first place. They knew I was playing it for years. It wasn't until the Mrs. Fish's parents got involved that things spiraled out of control.
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:41:19am |
re: #480 iossarian
My parents once asked my brother and I whether there was anything "occult" about Dungeons and Dragons. We said no and they were cool with that.
My mother found Fundimentalism and disposed of all my 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons Manuals...including a first run Deities and DemiGods. One of 2 things I have not yet completely forgiven her for.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:42:53am |
re: #482 Jimmi the Grey
My mother found Pentacostalism and disposed of all my 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons Manuals...including a first run Deities and DemiGods. One of 2 things I have not yet completely forgiven her for.
Ouch!
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Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:44:34am |
re: #482 Jimmi the Grey
I still have mine locked up, when I die my kids will probably throw them away.
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Timmeh Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:45:56am |
re: #5 chonguey
Far from annoying liberals, every vote for Newt fills them with giddy delight.
Democrats and Liberals would love nothing more than to face Newt Gingrich as the nominee in the fall.
Anything but that awful briar patch!
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:46:47am |
re: #478 thedopefishlives
There's nothing wrong with so-called "traditional family values", in private. However, using it as a campaign stump is utterly moronic. The role of government is not to enforce an arbitrary set of moral rules on people.
Most American oppose abortion in principle, but I am sure that a lot of parents want to have the option open in the event that their daughters do not live up to the standards they were unable to keep when they themselves were teenagers...
That is one nuance that the GOP does not seem to grasp.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:47:09am |
re: #482 Jimmi the Grey
My mother found Fundimentalism and disposed of all my 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons Manuals...including a first run Deities and DemiGods. One of 2 things I have not yet completely forgiven her for.
LOTR was my favorite book as a kid, but Zedushka mumbled something about fantasy worlds being not "kosher" so I kept it away from my kids.
Then when the movies came out my son read the entire trilogy in one weekend! It became his favorite book ever and he said "Mom how come you never told me how awesome this book was?"
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iossarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:48:18am |
re: #482 Jimmi the Grey
My mother found Fundimentalism and disposed of all my 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons Manuals...including a first run Deities and DemiGods. One of 2 things I have not yet completely forgiven her for.
Do you mean 1st edition AD&D? I get confused between the various edition numbers and the D&D/AD&D split.
Those early AD&D hardcovers were the business.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:48:24am |
re: #482 Jimmi the Grey
My mother found Fundimentalism and disposed of all my 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons Manuals...including a first run Deities and DemiGods. One of 2 things I have not yet completely forgiven her for.
My buddies' parents banished the Beatles from their home after the famous "More popular than Jesus" blowup.
But they did not ban the Rolling Stones, so we were always delighted to sit down at his house and listen to "Their Satanic Majesties Request".
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darthstar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:48:56am |
re: #486 ralphieboy
Most American oppose abortion in principle, but I am sure that a lot of parents want to have the option open in the event that their daughters do not live up to the standards they were unable to keep when they themselves were teenagers...
That is one nuance that the GOP does not seem to grasp.
Oh, they grasp it. They just have the money to sneak their precious little girls off for a procedure if they have to.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:49:16am |
My parents banned some stuff. So I just read/watched it when they weren't around.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:49:47am |
re: #486 ralphieboy
Most American oppose abortion in principle, but I am sure that a lot of parents want to have the option open in the event that their daughters do not live up to the standards they were unable to keep when they themselves were teenagers...
That is one nuance that the GOP does not seem to grasp.
The fear of grandchildren wearing dog collars.
/
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:49:59am |
re: #487 Alouette
LOTR was my favorite book as a kid, but Zedushka mumbled something about fantasy worlds being not "kosher" so I kept it away from my kids.
Then when the movies came out my son read the entire trilogy in one weekend! It became his favorite book ever and he said "Mom how come you never told me how awesome this book was?"
LOTR and Narnia were OK in our household because they were Christian literature (J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were well-known Christian authors and members of a Christian authors' club). Outside of that, fantasy worlds were verboten, although sci-fi was acceptable as long as it didn't integrate any pagan elements.
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Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:50:14am |
re: #489 ralphieboy
Heh, I have banished the Kardashians from our household.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:52:05am |
My mom wouldn't allow me to play Mortal Kombat when it came out. So, I borrowed it from a friend.
Once she saw the stupid amounts of blood she just laughed.
After that, I was allowed to play it.
:)
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:52:41am |
14-lb baby born naturally in Iowa.
My daughter had a 12-lb baby, born naturally in a home birth! I don't know how she got that thing out of her and she is a petite woman. My grandson looks like Eric Cartman.
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darthstar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:52:43am |
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:53:06am |
re: #488 iossarian
Do you mean 1st edition AD&D? I get confused between the various edition numbers and the D&D/AD&D split.
Those early AD&D hardcovers were the business.
Yes, AD&D first ed. PH, DMG, MM, FF, DD and something I'm forgetting. And the Box set of D&D aswell ( the one where elf , halfling and dwarf were classes that were fighter/wizard, fighter/thief and fighter/cleric respectively).
So, both, yeah...but don't miss the box set as much.
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Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:53:13am |
My parents were pretty un-puritan. But watching Outlaw Josey Wales with my mom became epic during the rape scene with Sondra Locke. She tried getting me out of the room and I was more entertained by her flipping out than the really good movie.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:09am |
re: #467 Varek Raith
Family Research Council Does Not Even Approve Of Fictional Gay People
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
What's really hilarious about that is that the same-sex relationships aren't even in the game yet. These people are freaking out for no reason. Again.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:14am |
re: #493 thedopefishlives
LOTR and Narnia were OK in our household because they were Christian literature (J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were well-known Christian authors and members of a Christian authors' club). Outside of that, fantasy worlds were verboten, although sci-fi was acceptable as long as it didn't integrate any pagan elements.
My brother wasn't a fan of LOTR (he'd read it once right around college age) but he read it to his daughter about 6-7 years ago. Part of their daily routine from when she was about 3 or 4 was him reading things to her for about half an hour in the morning or right before lights out in the evening. Worked through a lot of the better children's literature that way, and also got her interested in learning to read for herself at a fairly early age.
As with my family growing up an acceptable evening pastime is everyone in the living room reading their different books.
:)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:55:36am |
re: #501 oaktree
As with my family growing up an acceptable evening pastime is everyone in the living room reading their different books.
:)
My parents encouraged reading anything and everything except for the fantasy stuff. As a result, when I was maybe 6 years old or so, I stumbled upon my dad's college chemistry textbooks. Not only could I read them, but he and I used to have conversations over what I learned from them. I think that was about the point when my parents realized I was going to grow up to be an engineer.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:56:27am |
re: #490 darthstar
Oh, they grasp it. They just have the money to sneak their precious little girls off for a procedure if they have to.
They just don't want poor people doing it for some reason...
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:01:14am |
re: #502 thedopefishlives
My parents encouraged reading anything and everything except for the fantasy stuff. As a result, when I was maybe 6 years old or so, I stumbled upon my dad's college chemistry textbooks. Not only could I read them, but he and I used to have conversations over what I learned from them. I think that was about the point when my parents realized I was going to grow up to be an engineer.
I was given pretty free reign to read whatever I want. I recall reading _Japanese Destroyer Captain_ when I was nine. Discovered SF about a year later and had "the golden age" for the next couple of years going through what the public library had. Which was mainly Asimov and Keith Laumer. I didn't get to Heinlein and his "juveniles" until during and after college.
Only book I recall being explicitly told not to read was "Johnny Got His Gun" - which was a bit offputting since I read a lot of military history.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:01:17am |
re: #494 Shropshire_Slasher
Heh, I have banished the Kardashians from our household.
I don't recall them claiming to be more popular than Jesus...
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Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:03:38am |
re: #505 oaktree
I was given pretty free reign to read whatever I want.
Same here. I think my mom figured that as long as I was reading, she knew where I was and what I was doing. I don't remember her ever getting bent out of shape over my books.
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Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:04:50am |
I had to do some testing in a system yesterday so decided to put on Shawshank Redemption while I programmed a remote and made manuals. That movie seems to get even better with time.
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:06:12am |
Last gaming group I was playing with (almost 2 years ago) was mostly in their early 20's, with me being the exception. During the 2nd or 3rd session we were bsing about various games and such when one of the kids asked me when I first played D&D. Should have seen his face when I told him 1978.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:06:31am |
re: #505 oaktree
I felt bad for my older sister. She and I learned to read at about the same time - Dad was teaching her to read, and I learned from listening and reading over her shoulder. After that point, she always felt a little overshadowed, and it caused us friction through our school years. Thankfully, we both got over it by the time she went off to college.
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darthstar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:06:33am |
re: #507 Lidane
Same here. I think my mom figured that as long as I was reading, she knew where I was and what I was doing. I don't remember her ever getting bent out of shape over my books.
The only time that happened with me was when Peter Benchley wrote Jaws. Everyone took turns reading it, and when it was my turn my mom taped 30 pages together because of some adult scene or something. I never read the book after she did that.
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Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:06:36am |
re: #506 ralphieboy
Not yet...but I believe they jumped the shark.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:06:43am |
re: #505 oaktree
I read Dante's Inferno at age 12. A great version with amazing etchings, too.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:07:27am |
re: #507 Lidane
Same here. I think my mom figured that as long as I was reading, she knew where I was and what I was doing. I don't remember her ever getting bent out of shape over my books.
My mother worked as an elementary school librarian. She would get more bent out of shape over how a paperback or hardcover was treated than the contents of said book. Pounded it into me enough that I remark about it to my brother when I see paperbacks being left open and resting "facedown" instead of a bookmark being used.
I inherited that sometimes dreadful combination of bookworm and packrat from my parents. Which means I have multiple bookcases in my apartment and that they and the closets overflow with books "that I might want to read again".
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:09:21am |
re: #514 oaktree
Pounded it into me enough that I remark about it to my brother when I see paperbacks being left open and resting "facedown" instead of a bookmark being used.
I read books in the shower.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:10:22am |
re: #514 oaktree
I inherited that sometimes dreadful combination of bookworm and packrat from my parents. Which means I have multiple bookcases in my apartment and that they and the closets overflow with books "that I might want to read again".
This, right here, is me. I have all my old college textbooks. Although their resale value is terrible anyway, I kept them purely because "I might need the reference someday". Deep down, I know I'm kidding myself.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:13:29am |
re: #510 thedopefishlives
I felt bad for my older sister. She and I learned to read at about the same time - Dad was teaching her to read, and I learned from listening and reading over her shoulder. After that point, she always felt a little overshadowed, and it caused us friction through our school years. Thankfully, we both got over it by the time she went off to college.
My volcabulary and spelling ability at 10-11 were on par or better than my older sister's (five years older). I actually got drafted to help her proofread high school papers she was writing and typing. (1970s, before the PCs and spellcheckers.) Not much friction between us since the age difference was such that we moved in completely different social circles and I was never attending the same school as her.
Much more friction with my older brother. And that didn't mellow out until after he left for college. Once I wasn't living in the same house as him full-time we got along pretty well. (I was the "spoiled" youngest child by the way. My opinion was that I was saddled with two set of parents since my siblings were 4 and 5 years older than me and could be pretty domineering.)
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darthstar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:13:34am |
re: #514 oaktree
My mother worked as an elementary school librarian. She would get more bent out of shape over how a paperback or hardcover was treated than the contents of said book. Pounded it into me enough that I remark about it to my brother when I see paperbacks being left open and resting "facedown" instead of a bookmark being used.
Here's a great essay by Salman Rushdie. I go back and read this from time to time just because it's so beautifully written, and it serves to remind me about why Radical Republicans and Radical Islamists seem so similar.
I grew up kissing books and bread.
In our house, whenever anyone dropped a book or let fall a chapati or a "slice," which was our word for a triangle of buttered leavened bread, the fallen object was required not only to be picked up but also kissed, by way of apology for the act of clumsy disrespect. I was as careless and butter- fingered as any child and, accordingly, during my childhood years, I kissed a large number of "slices" and also my fair share of books.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:15:30am |
re: #518 oaktree
My sister is 2 years older than me. I was the superstar academic, but being a geek, I had no social skills whatsoever. Even though she resented how easily good grades came my way, she still defended me from the worst of it through high school. We're good friends now.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:19:36am |
re: #516 thedopefishlives
This, right here, is me. I have all my old college textbooks. Although their resale value is terrible anyway, I kept them purely because "I might need the reference someday". Deep down, I know I'm kidding myself.
Those hung around until my last move. At that point after packing 20+ boxes of books I put together the boxes of books that were to be sacrificed to the used book store. Once that became acceptable I have periodically culled the collection a few times more.
A lot of my paperback SF went to friends of mine since I send out the lists and see if anyone wants something before I donate it.
It seems however that I am still buying books faster than I get them back out of the apartment. Partially to blame is that I have now assembled a box that has all of the Discworld novels in one place.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:21:34am |
re: #521 oaktree
My textbooks stayed at my mom and dad's house when I moved out. My wife's vast collection of romance novels, however, moved in with us. And I continually have to buy more of those to placate her voracious appetite for new reading material. It's to the point where I'm feeling a mild compulsion to institute an indexing system and start loading boxes of them into the shelves in the garage.
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:25:35am |
Oak and Fish, you guys sound like you need to live near Powells books. They have and excellent buyback policy.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:25:58am |
re: #520 thedopefishlives
My sister is 2 years older than me. I was the superstar academic, but being a geek, I had no social skills whatsoever. Even though she resented how easily good grades came my way, she still defended me from the worst of it through high school. We're good friends now.
Heh. I was the "smart one" in the family as well according to my brother. I'm the IT geek, and he is the university professor. My sister was the family liberal and rebel. Though my brother was the one that "ran away" from home when he was 10.
My upbringing and such was that I handled college fairly well, but a lot of things initially went over my head because I was unfamiliar with some of the realities and thus did some things out of naivete that I later came to regret or had unforeseen results.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:29:51am |
re: #523 Jimmi the Grey
Oak and Fish, you guys sound like you need to live near Powells books. They have and excellent buyback policy.
The dopefish and I probably need to sit down for a meal and a few beverages, swap stories about siblings, and talk about low-brow Lit-ra-ture.
:)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:30:15am |
re: #525 oaktree
The dopefish and I probably need to sit down for a meal and a few beverages, swap stories about siblings, and talk about low-brow Lit-ra-ture.
:)
No kidding. If you're ever in the Minneapolis area, drop me a line.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:32:00am |
re: #523 Jimmi the Grey
Oak and Fish, you guys sound like you need to live near Powells books. They have and excellent buyback policy.
Wrong coast for me. Closest I've been to there for any length of time was visiting my parents when they lived in Bend. (Which means I've been through the airport in Portland.)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:34:05am |
re: #526 thedopefishlives
No kidding. If you're ever in the Minneapolis area, drop me a line.
And we can talk weather as well since I've lived in northern NY state above the normal course of the jet stream. Lands of ice and snow and where negative F temp is not a myth.
;)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:35:41am |
re: #528 oaktree
And we can talk weather as well since I've lived in northern NY state above the normal course of the jet stream. Lands of ice and snow and where negative F temp is not a myth.
;)
Some time last year, Travel Magazine did a survey of the top 10 destination cities in the US. Minneapolis-St. Paul ranked the absolute worst in terms of weather. Gee, I wonder why.
;)
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:38:29am |
re: #529 thedopefishlives
Some time last year, Travel Magazine did a survey of the top 10 destination cities in the US. Minneapolis-St. Paul ranked the absolute worst in terms of weather. Gee, I wonder why.
;)
Lived in NE Mpls for almost 8 years. You'all need to remember that it's not just winter you need to warn people about. Frelling 14k lakes all evaporating in the summer...
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Bulworth Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:39:59am |
Go ahead. Make my day. Vote for Newt. -- A liberal. Pretty please?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:40:32am |
re: #530 Jimmi the Grey
Lived in NE Mpls for almost 8 years. You'all need to remember that it's not just winter you need to warn people about. Frelling 14k lakes all evaporating in the summer...
But you get that nice rolling shade from the clouds of mosquitos...
;)
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Bulworth Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:42:15am |
“Annoy a liberal, vote for Newt!”
Why is President Obama always dividing the American people? //
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:42:42am |
re: #532 oaktree
But you get that nice rolling shade from the clouds of mosquitos...
;)
Clouds? No, those are individual mosquitoes. Each one roughly the size of a house.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:44:40am |
re: #534 thedopefishlives
Clouds? No, those are individual mosquitoes. Each one roughly the size of a house.
The mosquitoes are so big that two of them picked up a man and carried him away.
One mosquito said "Should we eat him here or take him to the swamp?"
The other mosquito said, "Let's eat him here. If we go to the swamp the bigger mosquitoes will take him away from us."
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:45:22am |
re: #532 oaktree
But you get that nice rolling shade from the clouds of mosquitos...
;)
Lucky for me there was something about my Oregonian blood they didn't care for...which pissed my exwife off to no end.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:49:09am |
re: #536 Jimmi the Grey
Lucky for me there was something about my Oregonian blood they didn't care for...which pissed my exwife off to no end.
I have the opposite problem. Mosquitoes are my personal bane. Although, their freakishly large size makes it easier for me to destroy them when they do come forth to attack. Also, it reduces the number that can bombard my skin at the same time.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:49:57am |
re: #535 Alouette
The mosquitoes are so big that two of them picked up a man and carried him away.
One mosquito said "Should we eat him here or take him to the swamp?"
The other mosquito said, "Let's eat him here. If we go to the swamp the bigger mosquitoes will take him away from us."
And thus man made nuclear anti air missiles.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:50:31am |
re: #534 thedopefishlives
Clouds? No, those are individual mosquitoes. Each one roughly the size of a house.
Heh. And how many states have T-shirts with the mosquito as the "state bird"?
Secondary question is which do you think is worse, the mosquito, the black fly, or the deer/horse fly?
(My personal opinion is the mosquito since I'm allergic to the saliva and hate the itching. The others are just drilling holes in you. And the deer/horse flies are usually big enough to see and kill effectively. Though I have been mega-swarmed by them when working in the woods.)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:51:15am |
re: #538 Varek Raith
And thus man made nuclear anti air missiles.
Now you understand why Minnesota hosted several Nike SAM sites.
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Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:51:32am |
re: #539 oaktree
Black flies don't bite, they suck.
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Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:52:19am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:52:24am |
re: #540 thedopefishlives
Now you understand why Minnesota hosted several Nike SAM sites.
And Babe the Ox was blue due to anemia.
;)
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:53:09am |
re: #537 thedopefishlives
I have the opposite problem. Mosquitoes are my personal bane. Although, their freakishly large size makes it easier for me to destroy them when they do come forth to attack. Also, it reduces the number that can bombard my skin at the same time.
They have adapted to the blood of the natives. Used to chew up my ex as well...she grew up in St Paul.
But even being mostly free of being fed upon, the humidity drove me back west. Even more than -20F did. Yet another reason I avoid the south.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:53:42am |
re: #545 Jimmi the Grey
They have adapted to the blood of the natives. Used to chew up my ex as well...she grew up in St Paul.
But even being mostly free of being fed upon, the humidity drove me back west. Even more than -20F did. Yet another reason I avoid the south.
Heh, I'm not a Minnesota native. But the Indiana mosquitoes seemed to enjoy going all vampire on me just as much.
| 547 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:53:58am |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:55:51am |
At least 12 militants killed in Yemen air strike
At least 12 al Qaeda militants, including four local leaders, were killed in a drone strike in southern Yemen, a tribal chief said in what he called one of the biggest U.S. strikes against the group.
Residents said the unidentified drone attacked the militants overnight who were travelling in two vehicles east of the city of Lawdar in Abyan provice.
The tribal leader in the area told Reuters that at between 12 and 15 people were killed in the attack, including at least four leaders or prominent figures in a local Yemeni branch of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).
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sizzzzlerz Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:00:05am |
#8 The Palins are the Kardashians of politics.
Part of the Beverly Hillbillies branch to be sure.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:02:34am |
re: #548 Killgore Trout
We're gonna need a lot more virgins!
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:04:16am |
re: #546 thedopefishlives
Heh, I'm not a Minnesota native. But the Indiana mosquitoes seemed to enjoy going all vampire on me just as much.
Huh. Well, there goes that theory. Maybe it was the pine scent of my blood.
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Locker Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:04:28am |
I know it's the next day and all but I wouldn't want to miss out on the fun. All of Sarah Palin's public statements are meant to do one thing, get her back on the front page. That's it. There is no substance, there is no quality there is no reason to listen to a word that comes out of her mouth just like Charlie Brown's teacher.
Wonwon Wonwonwonwon Pay attention to me! wonwon wonwonwon.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:14:07am |
re: #550 sattv4u2
We're gonna need a lot more virgins!
They're getting scarce. Supply can't keep up with demand.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:15:01am |
re: #551 Jimmi the Grey
Huh. Well, there goes that theory. Maybe it was the pine scent of my blood.
That's the power of Pine-Sol, baby.
| 555 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:19:11am |
re: #553 Killgore Trout
They're getting scarce. Supply can't keep up with demand.
"Due to a dwindling supply of virgins, the Al Qaeda Executive Committee on Martyrdom Compensation has been forced to cut your allotment from 72 virgins to a number to be determined. We will let you know what the number is as soon as you complete your mission. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause in planning your eternal bliss"
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:23:31am |
re: #552 Locker
I know it's the next day and all but I wouldn't want to miss out on the fun. All of Sarah Palin's public statements are meant to do one thing, get her back on the front page. That's it. There is no substance, there is no quality there is no reason to listen to a word that comes out of her mouth just like Charlie Brown's teacher.
Wonwon Wonwonwonwon Pay attention to me! wonwon wonwonwon.
Using a plunger mute on Sarah Palin, now there's a concept.
/
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:24:04am |
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kirkspencer Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:28:40am |
Mosquitos. If you're not allergic to them, letting them finish eating and leave will be less irritating than smashing them while they're feeding. Best, of course, is to kill or drive them away before they bite.
I've discovered that eating a heavily garliced meal is off-putting to them. The garlic in the sweat seems to act as a mild repellant. Only good for a few hours, of course, and others have to cope with your odor as well. (Which is why I always share my meals.)
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lawhawk Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:29:58am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Today's Florida's primary election day (even though there was early balloting for several weeks already).
Santorum and Paul didn't even bother with campaigning there, and Newt's got nothing but wishful thinking in a winner take all state.
The Daily News had the following question on their site: Primary Day in the Sunshine State: Can Newt pull off a miracle? Last stand for Paul, Santorum?
Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com#ixzz1l38bAf4Z...]
I'll give you the answer that you probably already know: Newt can't pull off a miracle, and Paul and Santorum have no chance, but they're not going to bow out anytime soon.
Meanwhile, other news outlets are wondering whether it's too late for someone to make a late entry to the GOP race (answer is - yes it's way too late, either to enter or to topple either Mitt or Santorum/Newt). Anything but Mitt (ABM) is strong, but the stupidity of a late entry is even stronger. No one has a ground game in place to match that of Mitt, let alone Paul (the only other candidate who had their name on all ballots nationally). They'd only manage to accomplish a splitting of the vote, virtually guaranteeing an Obama reelection.
All the talk of a third party run seems to be a dying gasp of the tea party that has seen the limitations of its power to influence the GOP establishment, and now they're throwing a tamper tantrum, even though their preferred candidate (really the ABM candidate) has been anything but a true TP type other than Cain (Santorum and Newt are both insiders, and even Bachmann was an insider). No chance for any of them to overcome the Mitt's money advantages or ground game - and none had the ability to get their name on all ballots.
So, while Trump mulls yet another attempt at a presidential run - first as a GOP candidate, and now as a potential third party, we see that ego trumps sanity or logic. Trump has no chance, but his ego wont allow for it. Moreover, he knows that any story that puts his name in the press is good, regardless of what it means for the political process.
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bratwurst Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:34:07am |
re: #552 Locker
of Sarah Palin's public statements are meant to do one thing, get her back on the front page. That's it.
Her statements also serve to make me feel very smart for not voting for a presidential ticket with her name on it.
| 562 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:38:19am |
re: #559 kirkspencer
Mosquitos. If you're not allergic to them, letting them finish eating and leave will be less irritating than smashing them while they're feeding. Best, of course, is to kill or drive them away before they bite.
I've discovered that eating a heavily garliced meal is off-putting to them. The garlic in the sweat seems to act as a mild repellant. Only good for a few hours, of course, and others have to cope with your odor as well. (Which is why I always share my meals.)
My brother claims that the garlic approach works for dealing with mites (e.g. chiggers) while doing field work. Haven't heard him comment about any such effectiveness with ticks or mosquitos.
| 563 |
kirkspencer Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:46:03am |
re: #562 oaktree
My brother claims that the garlic approach works for dealing with mites (e.g. chiggers) while doing field work. Haven't heard him comment about any such effectiveness with ticks or mosquitos.
Doesn't stop but does reduce the mosquitos. No clue about the ticks; I'm not sure I've had an opportunity to test them.
That said, when I used to do heavy field work I used to eat florets of sulfur. Not much; about a matchhead size dose every 8 to 12 hours. My sweat stunk of sulfur (bad), I never had a problem with ticks, chiggers, or mosquitos (good). Since garlic includes a sulfur compound it may come into play there.
(Took almost 48 hours of no sulfur, to include garlic, to quit having sulfurous BO when I came in from the field. I eventually took to quit using it the last day out and living with the slightly increased insect visitations.)
| 564 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:49:22am |
re: #563 kirkspencer
My sweat stunk of sulfur (bad), I never had a problem with ticks, chiggers, or mosquitos but I did spend many a lonely Friday and Saturday night!
/
| 565 |
kirkspencer Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:52:47am |
re: #564 sattv4u2
My sweat stunk of sulfur (bad), I never had a problem with ticks, chiggers, or mosquitos but I did spend many a lonely Friday and Saturday night!
/
heh - That's the risk. Or if you're married, (as I was, and am) she might have a say in the issue.
| 566 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:57:40am |
Vandals tag Derek Jeter's Tampa mansion
Someone in Tampa don't know what they want, but know how to get it. They wanna destroy the poster boy, because they wanna be anarchy. … Get pissed, destroy… or something.
A vandal painted a circled A, the anarchy symbol many of us had on our notebook in seventh grade to show how punk rock we were, on Derek Jeter's Tampa mansion, according to the MJ Morning Show on Florida's 93.3 FLZ radio station, which has a picture.
The house next door was also vandalized with what the story describes as the words "F*ck Pigs." I'm guessing the vandal didn't use the asterisk, but I didn't see it. But the fact another neighbor in the tony neighborhood got the same treatment as Jeter suggests it wasn't a comment on the Yankees' acquisition of Michael Pineda.
According to the report, Jeter has people to help him out, painting over the spray paint within two hours of filing a police report.
Why do anarchists hate baseball players?
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lawhawk Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:00:35am |
re: #563 kirkspencer
A few years back, I went to the Everglades, and the bugs were out in full force. Didn't matter what we used as bug spray (and I think we had a couple of options) - they came at us like something straight out of The Swarm.
We had welts on pretty much every exposed part of skin. Our solution? Wear long sleeves if we go back.
| 568 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:02:34am |
re: #567 lawhawk
A few years back, I went to the Everglades, and the bugs were out in full force. Didn't matter what we used as bug spray (and I think we had a couple of options) - they came at us like something straight out of The Swarm.
We had welts on pretty much every exposed part of skin. Our solution? Wear long sleeves if we go back.
I went on a camping trip once for Boy Scouts where I was required to survive in the "wilderness" alone for a day. By a stroke of misfortune, the downed tree I chose to build my shelter around was only a hundred feet or so from a patch of swampy, muddy ground. I awoke the next morning to hundreds - literally - of mosquito bite welts rising all over my body. It was hell for the next two weeks.
| 569 |
Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:08:22am |
re: #568 thedopefishlives
I went on a camping trip once for Boy Scouts where I was required to survive in the "wilderness" alone for a day. By a stroke of misfortune, the downed tree I chose to build my shelter around was only a hundred feet or so from a patch of swampy, muddy ground. I awoke the next morning to hundreds - literally - of mosquito bite welts rising all over my body. It was hell for the next two weeks.
I had to do that in the Pine Barrens (NJ) Not many bugs, but it was cold as shit.
| 570 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:08:52am |
re: #567 lawhawk
A few years back, I went to the Everglades, and the bugs were out in full force. Didn't matter what we used as bug spray (and I think we had a couple of options) - they came at us like something straight out of The Swarm.
We had welts on pretty much every exposed part of skin. Our solution? Wear long sleeves if we go back.
I wore long sleeves and long pants a lot when in Malaysia. Mainly for sun protection, but it helped with insects as well the few times I was in jungle conditions. Only got mosquito "bit up" on the arms once. Luckily REI had some very nice lightweight stuff that breathes decently and dries quickly after being rinsed out. Also, at the recommendation of my brother, I picked up a few pair of pants/shorts where the lower leg portion could be attached/detached with a clever set of zippers.
I spent my share of time being the sweat-dripping Anglo that the natives were watching to see if I would meltdown completely.
| 571 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:09:50am |
re: #496 Alouette
14-lb baby born naturally in Iowa.
My daughter had a 12-lb baby, born naturally in a home birth! I don't know how she got that thing out of her and she is a petite woman. My grandson looks like Eric Cartman.
The thought of this made me LOL :)
| 572 |
Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:10:54am |
| 573 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:11:06am |
| 574 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:13:10am |
re: #569 Varek Raith
I had to do that in the Pine Barrens (NJ) Not many bugs, but it was cold as shit.
Good place to land or construct a hidden secret base. Just need a good set of pumps to keep the water table at bay.
| 575 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:15:55am |
re: #574 oaktree
Good place to land or construct a hidden secret base. Just need a good set of pumps to keep the water table at bay.
Somehow I don't think Varek wants his secret base to turn out like New Orleans.
| 576 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:17:51am |
re: #575 thedopefishlives
Somehow I don't think Varek wants his secret base to turn out like New Orleans.
Or Joes Pesci emptying his car's trunk on the front stoop.
| 577 |
lawhawk Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:29:16am |
re: #574 oaktree
Fort Dix and McGuire AFB (now Joint Base Dix McGuire Lakehurst) are located within the Pine Barrens - not so secret bases.
| 578 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:41:54am |
Oakland teen charged as adult in parents' slayings
A 15-year-old boy accused of strangling his foster parents in Oakland and stuffing their bodies into a car will be prosecuted as an adult, authorities said Monday.
Moses Kamin is to be arraigned today in Alameda County Superior Court in Oakland, pending the formal filing of charges by prosecutors in the deaths of Robert Kamin, 55, and Susan Poff, 50.
The boy could face two counts of murder and a special circumstance alleging he committed multiple murders. He could be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted.
Police were called to the family's home on Athol Avenue near Lake Merritt on Friday by a co-worker who was concerned when Robert Kamin, a clinical psychologist, did not show up for work at the San Francisco County Jail.
Officers found the couple's bodies hidden in the back of their car parked outside their home. The car was charred, as if someone tried to set it on fire, police said.
The couple had been having arguments with their son, some of them having to do with him spending too much time in the former Occupy Oakland encampment, co-workers said.
| 579 |
AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:44:41am |
re: #578 NJDhockeyfan
We don't let people drink until they're 21 but we prosecute them as adults at 15?
| 580 |
Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:45:20am |
re: #578 NJDhockeyfan.
I'm having a case of Deja Vu
Totally unrelated to OWS:
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
Pretty sad, he sounds like a smart kid.
| 582 |
Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:48:21am |
New Study Links Racism and Conservative Beliefs with Low IQ
A new study finds a correlation between conservative beliefs, racism and low IQ. LiveScience has a write-up based on communications with the principal author, Professor Gordon Hodson, of Brock University in Ontario. The paper itself is currently in press for the journal, Psychological Science, according to Hodson’s university web page. A previous study by Hodson’s group found a link between between less-educated people and higher incidences of prejudice.
Well, monkeyballs to biscuits!
| 583 |
AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:33am |
re: #581 BigPapa
I still remember Rick Santorum claiming in all seriousness that it was the liberal sexual atmostphere of the 60's that led to child abuse cases within the Roman Catholic Church...
| 584 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:38am |
re: #578 NJDhockeyfan
This one started at comment #106 in this very thread last night. May I suggest reviewing from there before continuing.
| 585 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:57am |
re: #582 BigPapa
New Study Links Racism and Conservative Beliefs with Low IQ
Well, monkeyballs to biscuits!
If I had to guess, the link is caused by the fact that people with low intelligence are more prone to groupthink and are more easily misled.
| 586 |
Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:51:54am |
re: #583 ralphieboy
I still remember Rick Santorum claiming in all seriousness that it was the liberal sexual atmostphere of the 60's that led to child abuse cases within the Roman Catholic Church...
All those dope smoking hippies caused priests to rape young boys. Makes a whole bucket of sense.
| 587 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:52:14am |
You know those horrible, horrible scam ads "Dermatologists Hate Her!" "53 Year Old Mom Looks 23!" "55 Year Old Mom Looks 25!" and so on. HuffPost runs them 3 times on every page.
But I noticed (IE8 hell, can't use Adblock) that on the HuffPost "Black Voices" pages, it's "60 Year Old Mom Looks 25!" like they think Black people will believe even more outrageous scams than generic/white people.
And this is HuffPost we're talking about here, supposedly intelligent liberals, not Foxnews (which has the same ads, just only one per page)
| 588 |
AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:52:29am |
re: #585 thedopefishlives
If I had to guess, the link is caused by the fact that people with low intelligence are more prone to groupthink and are more easily misled.
We are all genetically programmed to be racist: our prehistoric brain was very attuned to the threat from outsiders and those who look different.
It takes a degree of socialization and intellectual effort to overcome it. If that effort is derailed, or simply never made, then it is easy to fall into the sort of tribal reactions that still exist deep in our thought processes.
| 589 |
Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:52:54am |
re: #584 oaktree
This one started at comment #106 in this very thread last night. May I suggest reviewing from there before continuing.
(Points finger, laughs maniacally)
BWAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHA!
| 590 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:53:20am |
re: #587 Alouette
You know those horrible, horrible scam ads "Dermatologists Hate Her!" "53 Year Old Mom Looks 23!" "55 Year Old Mom Looks 25!" and so on. HuffPost runs them 3 times on every page.
But I noticed (IE8 hell, can't use Adblock) that on the HuffPost "Black Voices" pages, it's "60 Year Old Mom Looks 25!" like they think Black people will believe even more outrageous scams than generic/white people.
And this is HuffPost we're talking about here, supposedly intelligent liberals, not Foxnews (which has the same ads, just only one per page)
"25 year old mom looks 13!"
wait, what?
///
| 591 |
AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:53:32am |
re: #586 BigPapa
All those dope smoking hippies caused priests to rape young boys. Makes a whole bucket of sense.
Because priests never abused children before then, of course...
| 592 |
lawhawk Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:54:29am |
re: #586 BigPapa
Right. Even as Churches around the world admit to sexual assaults on congregants for decades before the 1960s. Like the Belgian Roman Catholic Church for instance.
| 593 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:56:22am |
re: #590 Sergey Romanov
"25 year old mom looks 13!"
wait, what?
///
13 year old mom looks 5!
No really, these scams are so lame, and every single advert uses the same copy like they have only 5 keywords to choose from. Weird trick! Ridiculously easy/cheap!
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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:58:50am |
It would be wrong to Page this. It's probably wrong to post it at all, because it's wrong to find it humorous. So I'm hiding it here in the comments, because I can't resist the evil within me.
FARMINGTON — Police discovered the body of a man early Monday morning, making this the second body discovered within a week.
The man, identified as 59-year-old Harry Happy, was discovered about 7 a.m. in a ditch off Broadway just west of Lake Street in Farmington.
Foul play is not suspected and freezing temperatures are likely a contributing factor to the man's death, Farmington Police Sgt. Robert Perez said.
The investigation is ongoing.
This is the second exposure-related death in the past week.
On Jan. 23, police discovered the body of 27-year-old Dana Smiley near Boyd Park at about 7:45 a.m.
Officers were dispatched to the walking path near the park in reference to a down body.
There were no signs of foul play in Smiley's death and police believe below freezing temperatures were a factor in his death.
Both Happy's and Smiley's bodies were taken to the Office of the Medical Investigator in Albuquerque for continued investigation.
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Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:59:05am |
re: #585 thedopefishlives
If I had to guess, the link is caused by the fact that people with low intelligence are more prone to groupthink and are more easily misled.
Of course, but I think it's many things if we take a serious look at it.
I've never thought myself as stupid but I did believe a lot of conservative dogma for a long time. So the subject is of great interest to me. I write it off to intellectual laziness. Once I actually took the time to think things through further and deal with some facts my thoughts changed along with my opinions.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:00:49am |
re: #595 BigPapa
Of course, but I think it's many things if we take a serious look at it.
I've never thought myself as stupid but I did believe a lot of conservative dogma for a long time. So the subject is of great interest to me. I write it off to intellectual laziness. Once I actually took the time to think things through further and deal with some facts my thoughts changed along with my opinions.
Actually, I'm with you on this one. I even did a research paper in high school on the JFK assassination, presenting the case for the conspiracy theory. That was before I learned how to critique my sources. I later learned (on LGF, no less) that Jim Marrs is a stark raving lunatic. I have regretted that paper ever since.
| 597 |
Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:03:51am |
re: #591 ralphieboy
Because priests never abused children before then, of course...
I can't believe you don't see the correlation. As we become more civilized and egalitarian as a society, our sexual deviancy grows. Everyone knows that the only way to prevent rape or assault of kids is to return to the Church having dominion over everything.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:04:07am |
re: #584 oaktree
This one started at comment #106 in this very thread last night. May I suggest reviewing from there before continuing.
Thanks for letting me know but I'm not going to read close to 600 posts to catch up.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:04:41am |
re: #594 wrenchwench
You are not alone. I am here with you.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:08:12am |
re: #597 Petero1818
I can't believe you don't see the correlation. As we become more civilized and egalitarian as a society, our sexual deviancy grows. Everyone knows that the only way to prevent rape or assault of kids is to return to the Church having dominion over everything.
Please use a sarc tag (a backslash) if you are not serious...
and I hope you aren't
I also heard from a friend that it was SOP well into recent times that priests caught abusing the irflock were quietly packed off to another diocese, if they continued to misbehave, they were just sent off to some obscure, isolated spot in the Third World.
Point was, you just didn't talk about it.
| 601 |
Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:09:29am |
re: #600 ralphieboy
He's not serious. Last sentence is a dead giveaway.
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AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:09:32am |
re: #599 Sergey Romanov
You are not alone. I am here with you.
There is black humor, and then there is just humorless blackness....
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:10:24am |
Iraqi bill to ban travels to Israel
The Iraqi parliament is planning to pass a new bill banning Iraqis from traveling to Israel, Al Jazeera online reported Monday.
The bill was proposed following a number of incidents at the Bagdad airport. A local security officer working there said the passport had caught a number of Iraqi officials carrying passports with Israeli entry visas. The officer, speaking on a condition of anonymity, reported that the passports of some nine high-profile Iraqi politicians were clearly marked with Ben-Gurion Airport stamps as well.According to the source, the politicians made their first trips to Israel after the Iraqi elections, held on January 2010, until around October that same year. The officer claimed that during questioning of the Iraqis, it was discovered that they were operating as envoys to Israel on behalf of Iraqi politicians.
| 604 |
Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:11:52am |
re: #603 NJDhockeyfan
Thank god we spent all that blood, time, and treasure freeing Iraq from the anti-Israel dictatorship of Hussein. Now they can just be anti-Israel all on their own.
| 605 |
wrenchwench Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:13:36am |
re: #599 Sergey Romanov
You are not alone. I am here with you.
Thanks. I'll share the good ones from Surprise, Arizona with you. Sometimes they're really good. Today we have
The Surprise Police Department's photo-enforcement vehicle will be posted in the following locations:
Through Sunday - 24600 block of 163rd Avenue.
Monday to Feb. 5 - Reems Road at Rusty Lane.
...which seems self-defeating.
| 606 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:13:43am |
re: #587 Alouette
But I noticed (IE8 hell, can't use Adblock) that on the HuffPost "Black Voices" pages, it's "60 Year Old Mom Looks 25!" like they think Black people will believe even more outrageous scams than generic/white people.
The grand irony on them being, of all people who don't need to purchase "our snakeoil will make you look younger" snake oil scams, it's us. /
| 607 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:14:31am |
re: #588 ralphieboy
We are all genetically programmed to be racist: our prehistoric brain was very attuned to the threat from outsiders and those who look different.
?
Link?
| 608 |
Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:15:07am |
re: #600 ralphieboy
Please use a sarc tag (a backslash) if you are not serious...
and I hope you aren't
I also heard from a friend that it was SOP well into recent times that priests caught abusing the irflock were quietly packed off to another diocese, if they continued to misbehave, they were just sent off to some obscure, isolated spot in the Third World.
Point was, you just didn't talk about it.
Yes, I do usually use a sarc tag, just missed it on this one. Definitely NOT serious.
AS for the SOP, I am quite sure that a couple of hundred years ago, there was no moving them around for that shit. Just ignoring it.
| 609 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:16:06am |
| 610 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:16:47am |
re: #595 BigPapa
Of course, but I think it's many things if we take a serious look at it.
I've never thought myself as stupid but I did believe a lot of conservative dogma for a long time. So the subject is of great interest to me. I write it off to intellectual laziness. Once I actually took the time to think things through further and deal with some facts my thoughts changed along with my opinions.
I don't accept those kinds of studies for the same reason.
| 611 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:17:06am |
| 612 |
Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:17:13am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:17:35am |
Mission accomplished.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:20:37am |
Morning all!
Am I the only one who is sick and tired of the objectification of the "other side"? If I hear the label "liberal" one more time, I may have to post something about it on my fb and lose even more "friends".
Calm down, ggt, time for cuteness.
ahhh, yes that helps.
How are you-all?
| 615 |
Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:30:52am |
re: #614 ggt
Morning all!
Am I the only one who is sick and tired of the objectification of the "other side"? If I hear the label "liberal" one more time, I may have to post something about it on my fb and lose even more "friends".
Calm down, ggt, time for cuteness.
ahhh, yes that helps.
How are you-all?
Not at all! You have seen my anti partisan posts... We share the conclusion. You should see the crap I take for being even just fiscally/tax/budget conservative (elsewhere not around here) while being socially pretty liberal. I guess my one strong social con streak is aimed at infidelity.
| 616 |
wrenchwench Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:33:20am |
re: #614 ggt
Morning all!
Am I the only one who is sick and tired of the objectification of the "other side"? If I hear the label "liberal" one more time, I may have to post something about it on my fb and lose even more "friends".
Calm down, ggt, time for cuteness.
ahhh, yes that helps.
How are you-all?
That's not cuteness. this is cuteness!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:33:44am |
re: #614 ggt
Morning all!
Am I the only one who is sick and tired of the objectification of the "other side"? If I hear the label "liberal" one more time, I may have to post something about it on my fb and lose even more "friends".
Calm down, ggt, time for cuteness.
ahhh, yes that helps.
How are you-all?
Trying hard not to lash out at my idiot FB friends who support Newt Gingrich or Ron Paul. Haven't seen anyone speaking out for Mittens or the Un-Googleable one.
| 618 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:33:59am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:35:29am |
re: #617 thedopefishlives
Trying hard not to lash out at my idiot FB friends who support Newt Gingrich or Ron Paul. Haven't seen anyone speaking out for Mittens or the Un-Googleable one.
I almost want to watch the rhetorical gymnastics that will have to happen for Romney to get the nomination. Anyone in the GOP who seriously things Newt can win against Obama is living in another world --ok, we knew that.
The orchestration is almost boring.
| 620 |
Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:36:04am |
re: #579 ralphieboy
We don't let people drink until they're 21 but we prosecute them as adults at 15?
Just imagine the mayhem if 15 year olds could drink.
///
Our legal system has a huge quandry, if we treat young killers as juveniles, I don't want them just blindly released at 18!
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Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:36:51am |
re: #610 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I don't accept those kinds of studies for the same reason.
I don't follow.
There are a few possible reasons for people to accept dogma. It may be laziness, fear, or stupidity. Or all three in combination. They may have spent a long time in an environment of disinformation that seemed credible.
| 622 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:36:59am |
re: #619 ggt
I almost want to watch the rhetorical gymnastics that will have to happen for Romney to get the nomination. Anyone in the GOP who seriously things Newt can win against Obama is living in another world --ok, we knew that.
The orchestration is almost boring.
I just get frustrated at supposedly upstanding Christian folks who support blatantly race-baiting idiots. That goes double for Gingrich, who is also a philandering, thrice-married asshat. I don't understand how these people can compromise their morality purely out of a desire to unseat Obama.
| 623 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:38:31am |
re: #620 Rightwingconspirator
Just imagine the mayhem if 15 year olds could drink.
///Our legal system has a huge quandry, if we treat young killers as juveniles, I don't want them just blindly released at 18!
Why did Fagin run an army of juvenile thieves? Because even in Victorian times, juveniles were less likely to be hanged/sent to Australia (notice I said less likely, not never)
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:39:17am |
re: #621 BigPapa
I don't follow.
There are a few possible reasons for people to accept dogma. It may be laziness, fear, or stupidity. Or all three in combination. They may have spent a long time in an environment of disinformation that seemed credible.
No, I was agreeing with you; it's environment, education, and intellectual development. I doubt it has anything to do with "IQ" at all -- who even goes by IQ anymore, anyway.
| 625 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:40:18am |
re: #622 thedopefishlives
I just get frustrated at supposedly upstanding Christian folks who support blatantly race-baiting idiots. That goes double for Gingrich, who is also a philandering, thrice-married asshat. I don't understand how these people can compromise their morality purely out of a desire to unseat Obama.
They are fundamentally amoral people, whose only ethic is me-first-you-last/never, that's why.
| 626 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:44:09am |
Bad news from the CBO today.
CBO projects $1.08T deficit, 8.9 percent jobless rate in 2012
The Congressional Budget Office on Tuesday predicted the budget deficit will rise to $1.08 trillion in 2012.
CBO also projected the jobless rate would rise to 8.9 percent by the end of 2012, and to 9.2 percent in 2013.
These are much dimmer forecasts than in CBO’s last report in August, when the office projected a $973 billion deficit. The report reflects weaker corporate tax revenue and the extension for two months of the payroll tax holiday.
Yikes!
| 627 |
Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:45:08am |
re: #626 NJDhockeyfan
Stupid goddamn austerity measures are going to send us into a double-dip recession.
Ayn Rand, you suck.
| 628 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:46:00am |
re: #622 thedopefishlives
I just get frustrated at supposedly upstanding Christian folks who support blatantly race-baiting idiots. That goes double for Gingrich, who is also a philandering, thrice-married asshat. I don't understand how these people can compromise their morality purely out of a desire to unseat Obama.
Yeah, I can't fathom the mental gymnastics involved to see Newt as a moral person. Yet Clinton is the biggest asshole in their minds.
| 629 |
Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:46:27am |
re: #595 BigPapa
Of course, but I think it's many things if we take a serious look at it.
I've never thought myself as stupid but I did believe a lot of conservative dogma for a long time. So the subject is of great interest to me. I write it off to intellectual laziness. Once I actually took the time to think things through further and deal with some facts my thoughts changed along with my opinions.
Your comment reminds me of fundie Christian, fundie Islamists, and those Orthodox Jews who are literally brought up on creationism. Then those young students who go to HS or college learn the evolutionary facts. I suspect the vast majority of them come around to Darwin.
| 630 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:46:57am |
re: #629 Rightwingconspirator
Your comment reminds me of fundie Christian, fundie Islamists, and those Orthodox Jews who are literally brought up on creationism. Then those young students who go to HS or college learn the evolutionary facts. I suspect the vast majority of them come around to Darwin.
Because there is no conflict between the two.
| 631 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:47:10am |
Imponderable:
How can people celebrate Mitt Romney as a "job creator" when his entire career has been as a "job destroyer"?
| 632 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:47:53am |
re: #631 Alouette
Imponderable:
How can people celebrate Mitt Romney as a "job creator" when his entire career has been as a "job destroyer"?
Because Obama.
| 633 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:48:10am |
| 634 |
Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:48:37am |
re: #627 Obdicut
She's dead Jim
(really lame Star Trek joke, soory)
| 635 |
Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:48:40am |
re: #631 Alouette
I don't know. I've also seen people saying that just by his stock ownership, he's creating jobs. Which is just totally false: after the IPO, buying stock does absolutely nothing to help the company. It doesn't generate income for the company.
People don't get a surprising number of very simple things about capitalism.
| 636 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:49:54am |
re: #635 Obdicut
I don't know. I've also seen people saying that just by his stock ownership, he's creating jobs. Which is just totally false: after the IPO, buying stock does absolutely nothing to help the company. It doesn't generate income for the company.
People don't get a surprising number of very simple things about capitalism.
It is a well-known business practice to lay off workers in order to pay out the same or higher dividends for the stock holders (of course, after distributing the executive bonuses)
| 637 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:50:12am |
re: #634 Shropshire_Slasher
She's dead Jim
(really lame Star Trek joke, soory)
"Bridge on the captain!"
- William Shatner, during the filming of his infamous death scene during Star Trek: Generations
| 638 |
Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:50:13am |
re: #624 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
No, I was agreeing with you; it's environment, education, and intellectual development. I doubt it has anything to do with "IQ" at all -- who even goes by IQ anymore, anyway.
Ah yes. I think IQ is a subjective data point, if that. The subject as a whole is intriguing as long as it doesn't turn into an ideological weapon. An ideological nerf bat for fun, yes.
| 639 |
Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:50:24am |
re: #627 Obdicut
Stupid goddamn austerity measures are going to send us into a double-dip recession.
Ayn Rand, you suck.
Free markets! The invisible hand! End the Fed! GOLD! Eleventy!
///
| 640 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:52:10am |
Police: Occupy protesters may have been using drain as toilet
"We're looking at the environmental impact on the stream down there with the wildlife, and things like that," said Deputy Fire Chief Jeff Dulin.
"Plus the water goes downstream for other people to drink further down. But again, we're just trying to cover all our bases, and make sure that if there is any type of environment impact, that we're able to identify that and then correct that and make sure there is no further environmental impact downstream," he added.
| 641 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:52:48am |
re: #640 Killgore Trout
Police: Occupy protesters may have been using drain as toilet
Rapey, stabby and now poopy!
| 642 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:53:23am |
| 643 |
Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:53:30am |
Posted without comment:
Gingrich Robo-Call: Under Romney, Holocaust Survivors 'Forced To Eat Non-Kosher'
The Gingrich campaign is making robo-calls in Florida over Mitt Romney’s decision to veto $600,000 in funding to provide kosher meals for poor, elderly folks in senior homes. The robo-call ratchets up yesterday’s attacks over the veto by throwing in that Holocaust survivors were among those elderly “ who for the first time were forced to eat non-kosher.”
| 644 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:53:32am |
| 645 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:54:46am |
More bad economic news.
Confidence Decline Points to Cooling U.S. Growth
Consumer confidence unexpectedly dropped in January and a gauge of business activity fell, underscoring forecasts that the U.S. economy will cool after expanding at the fastest pace since the second quarter 2010.
The New York-based Conference Board’s confidence index decreased to 61.1, lower than the most pessimistic forecast in a Bloomberg News survey of economists, from a revised 64.8 reading the prior month. The Institute for Supply Management-Chicago Inc. said its business barometer declined to 60.2 from 62.2 in December. Readings above 50 signal growth.
Employers aren’t hiring fast enough to drive bigger gains in wages and consumer spending, while higher gasoline prices are cutting into household budgets. Another report today showed home prices fell more than forecast in November, eroding the wealth of families as they seek to rebuild savings.
“This quarter will be a bit slower,” said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group Inc. in Pittsburgh, who had the lowest sentiment estimate. “Consumer confidence appears to have leveled off, as job growth isn’t quite as good and gasoline prices have moved back up.”
It's
George
Bush's
Fault!™
//
| 646 |
Sheila Broflovski Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:55:23am |
re: #643 Lidane
Posted without comment:
Gingrich Robo-Call: Under Romney, Holocaust Survivors 'Forced To Eat Non-Kosher'
I blogged that last week. The point is, that if prisons are required to provide kosher/halal/vegan/whatever meals to inmates, why should that not also apply to people who have not even committed any crimes?
| 647 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:56:38am |
re: #643 Lidane
Posted without comment:
Gingrich Robo-Call: Under Romney, Holocaust Survivors 'Forced To Eat Non-Kosher'
Meh. Republican politics as usual.
| 648 |
AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:57:36am |
re: #607 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
?
Link?
Go find some notes on basic anthropology: we used to live in small tribes of up to 150-200 individuals. Anyone from outside that group was an "outsider" and a potential threat.
| 649 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:57:42am |
re: #646 Alouette
That debatable issue aside, highlighting Holocaust survivors is a rather low blow IMHO. But, well, it's Gingrich.
| 650 |
Shropshire_Slasher Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:57:52am |
I blame President Obama:
Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon
Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]
I wonder if she was in the movie Police Academy
| 651 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:57:55am |
re: #640 Killgore Trout
Police: Occupy protesters may have been using drain as toilet
Have they given up shitting on police cars and inside banks?
| 652 |
AK-47% Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:58:18am |
re: #608 Petero1818
Yes, I do usually use a sarc tag, just missed it on this one. Definitely NOT serious.
AS for the SOP, I am quite sure that a couple of hundred years ago, there was no moving them around for that shit. Just ignoring it.
The church was a world-wide organization, and before the days of mass communications, they did not have to move them very far to get them out of sight and out of mind...
| 653 |
Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:59:06am |
re: #646 Alouette
I blogged that last week. The point is, that if prisons are required to provide kosher/halal/vegan/whatever meals to inmates, why should that not also apply to people who have not even committed any crimes?
Personally, I think there's no reason why there should be a double standard. Elderly food programs like Meals on Wheels or whatever should absolutely be able to provide vegan/halal/kosher/etc.
I'm just in awe of Newt's willingness to Godwin all over the damn place by bringing Holocaust survivors into the robo-call. It takes balls to pretty much call your opponent an anti-Semite or a Nazi without actually using the words.
| 654 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:03:07am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Jewish inmates who follow strict religious diets at Florida prisons are no longer provided meals in line with their beliefs. Muslims must now eat vegan food to satisfy their religious requirements.
The Corrections Department has ended the Jewish Dietary Accommodation Program, which provided kosher meals to not only Jews, but to Muslims as well, because the state prison system does not offer halal food. Cost — and fairness — were cited as factors.
"We have 100 faiths represented by DOC inmates, so it would be impossible to satisfy everyone's preferences and unfair to do it for one group and not another," agency spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said. "We just have to look at what our mission is and what's best for our overall department and the overall population of inmates in our system instead of a smaller group."
I believe in religious accomodation within limits. If special food costs as much as normal food, go for it. If it costs more, IMHO religious charities should cover the difference.
| 656 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:08:10am |
re: #645 NJDhockeyfan
More bad economic news.
Confidence Decline Points to Cooling U.S. Growth
It's
George
Bush's
Fault!™//
No it isn't. Obama hates America, throws like a girl, wears mommy jeans, and uses a teleprompter. So it's all his fault. e_e
| 657 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:09:05am |
re: #648 ralphieboy
Go find some notes on basic anthropology: we used to live in small tribes of up to 150-200 individuals. Anyone from outside that group was an "outsider" and a potential threat.
That's not a link.
| 658 |
Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:10:11am |
re: #645 NJDhockeyfan
Iknowrite.
We should've totally done what many in the GOP wanted and let the auto industry in the US die.
Face it, if we had listened to your party we would've been even more screwed than we are now.
;)
| 660 |
Varek Raith Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:13:27am |
Austerity is being used extensively in Europe.
Funny, considering that's what the GOP wants us to do.
Also funny, it's making things worse in Europe.
| 661 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:16:26am |
re: #656 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
No it isn't. Obama hates America, throws like a girl, wears mommy jeans, and uses a teleprompter. So it's all his fault. e_e
Sorry, Chimpy McHitler and his Halliburton Death Squad croneys purposely destroyed the economy.
| 662 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:22:00am |
re: #657 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
That's not a link.
Suppose it's not a fact, but a hypothesis. You don't find it plausible?
| 663 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:22:54am |
re: #661 NJDhockeyfan
Sorry, Chimpy McHitler and his Halliburton Death Squad croneys purposely destroyed the economy.
Incorrect. Rapey stabby Muslim impostor hates America and just wants to get back at you via reparations/shakedowns/taxes/stimulsses.
| 664 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:23:57am |
re: #662 Sergey Romanov
Suppose it's not a fact, but a hypothesis. You don't find it plausible?
That we're all genetically programmed for "racism" due to our prehistoric brains, no I don't. I find to be lazy thinking, actually.
| 665 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:25:12am |
re: #664 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
That we're all genetically programmed for "racism" due to our prehistoric brains, no I don't. I find to be lazy thinking, actually.
Not only racism as such, but xenophobia in general. Why it cannot be a survival mechanism in that pre-historic era?
| 666 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:28:37am |
re: #665 Sergey Romanov
Not only racism as such, but xenophobia in general. Why it cannot be a survival mechanism in that pre-historic era?
The statement made was "racism", whatever that is. The request was for some kind of link on that, which may or may not be forthcoming, dunno.
| 667 |
Interesting Times Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:29:08am |
re: #658 Varek Raith
We should've totally done what many in the GOP wanted and let the auto industry in the US die.
Face it, if we had listened to your party we would've been even more screwed than we are now.
Or to put it another way:
LOLGOP
3 years of Bush. 9/11; surplus blown; Iraq. 3 years of Obama. Auto industry saved; bin Laden gone; out of Iraq.
LOLGOP
We'll stop blaming Bush when you stop acting like Bush.
:)
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:29:14am |
re: #663 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Incorrect. Rapey stabby Muslim impostor hates America and just wants to get back at you via reparations/shakedowns/taxes/stimulsses.
It can't be. Bush and Cheney have updated their hurricane veering machine with a program that controls the world's economy.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:30:42am |
re: #666 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
The statement made was "racism", whatever that is. The request was for some kind of link on that, which may or may not be forthcoming, dunno.
Yeah, I got it. But why do you find the idea of xenophobia (of which racism is a subset) as a survival mechanism to be pure lazy thinking? I mean, it may be. I never studied the issue. But it looks plausible on the surface.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:32:56am |
re: #669 Sergey Romanov
It's a copout.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Jan 31, 2012 10:34:11am |
re: #670 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It's a copout.
Without concrete evidence, it's a just-so story, as Gould would put it.
But even a just-so story can be plausible.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 11:04:58am |
re: #671 Sergey Romanov
Without concrete evidence, it's a just-so story, as Gould would put it.
But even a just-so story can be plausible.
See ralphieboy about it; if he doesn't want to back up his rather baldfaced assertion, fine with me.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Jan 31, 2012 11:18:32am |
re: #137 jaunte
Letters of Note: Monday, 30 January 2012
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