Wednesday Afternoon Music: Dire Straits, 'Brothers in Arms'

Of course, there's always one of Knopfler's most famous quotes:

"Oh, that ain't working, that's the way you do it
Get your money for nothing get your chicks for free"

I want my, I want my MTV

Velvet Elvis Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:04:02pm

re: #5 bofhell

I want my, I want my MTV

By now I want them to take it back.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:04:16pm

re: #5 bofhell

I want my, I want my MTV

If they still played music sure...

albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:04:19pm

"he can play honky tonk like anything...
saving it up for Friday night"

Ojoe Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:06:25pm

That fabulous liquid guitar

Jack Burton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:11:42pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

If they still played music sure...

Back in 2000 I met one of the original MTV VJs, Dave Kendall at a club in Hollywood. He was the host of 120 Minutes back when MTV didn't suck. I spent half the night BSing with him and a couple of friends about music and women before I even realized who he was. I felt like a dumbass.

Velvet Elvis Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:13:18pm

A neat graph detailing various economic systems.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:17:09pm

re: #10 ArchangelMichael

Back in 2000 I met one of the original MTV VJs, Dave Kendall at a club in Hollywood. He was the host of 120 Minutes back when MTV didn't suck. I spent half the night BSing with him and a couple of friends about music and women before I even realized who he was. I felt like a dumbass.

That probably made it even more cool for him. Don't feel bad about it.

Buster Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:19:08pm

One of my favorite songs on the album -- Yes I said album -- my first copy was vinyl. I miss album art...the CD or i-Pod screen is just too small to do it justice.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:19:29pm

re: #11 Conservative Moonbat

A neat graph detailing various economic systems.

Brilliant and favorited!

Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:25:05pm

It's the Dead-Alive thread.

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:25:44pm

Great song and a very good video - always on my YouTube favorites list. Without entering into a pro-and-con pacifism discussion, the lyrics of the last stanza with its sun/moon opposition are as good as anything ever written:

Now the sun's gone to hell
And the moon's riding high
Let me bid you farewell
Every man has to die
But it's written in the starlight
And every line on your palm
We're fools to make war
On our brothers in arms

Jack Burton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:26:29pm

re: #15 Walter L. Newton

It's the Dead-Alive thread.

It's drive home from work/dinner time in central and eastern time.
It's fall asleep at your desk staring at the clock time in Pacific time.

albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:27:30pm

re: #17 ArchangelMichael

It's drive home from work/dinner time in central and eastern time.
It's fall asleep at your desk staring at the clock time in Pacific time.

ahhh...mountain time is tre cool

Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:28:13pm

re: #18 albusteve

ahhh...mountain time is tre cool

Like watching the advancing glaciers.

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:29:04pm

re: #17 ArchangelMichael

It's drive home from work/dinner time in central and eastern time.
It's fall asleep at your desk staring at the clock time in Pacific time.

And the start of the Graveyard Shift for insomniacs anonymous residing in or around the Greenwich Mean Time zone...

_RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:29:50pm

Dire Straits ... It could be the title of the GOP's next album ...

"Walk of Life" was the first video that I remember using all sports video ...

abbyadams Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:29:51pm

re: #4 Honorary Yooper

I thought you were going to say, "Check out Guitar George - he knows ALL the chords..."

SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:31:11pm

It's time to tax the poor!

Buster Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:35:43pm

re: #4 Honorary Yooper

Of course, there's always one of Knopfler's most famous quotes:

"Oh, that ain't working, that's the way you do it
Get your money for nothing get your chicks for free"

My personal favorite: "Your sister gave me diamonds, and I gave them too your wife"

That's just as cold as it gets...

UP Border Collie Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:36:00pm

Thought I would jump in on an "easier" thread than the others listed. My first post was at the end of the Newsmax one.
So...formal introductions. I am one of those "hatchlings" that periodically show up here (when permitted). I do have to extend my thanks to all (well, almost all) who post here. If it wasn't for this site, I would have gone bat-shit crazy over the past few months. Thanks to all of you - for your sane comments and links to other sites...oh...and yeah...love the sarcasm!!

Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:36:41pm

re: #25 UP Border Collie

Thought I would jump in on an "easier" thread than the others listed. My first post was at the end of the Newsmax one.
So...formal introductions. I am one of those "hatchlings" that periodically show up here (when permitted). I do have to extend my thanks to all (well, almost all) who post here. If it wasn't for this site, I would have gone bat-shit crazy over the past few months. Thanks to all of you - for your sane comments and links to other sites...oh...and yeah...love the sarcasm!!

I bet you do?
/

Jack Burton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:36:57pm

"Jesus Christ, Just give the dog his fucking food. Why's he gotta do a trick first? YOU don't have to do shit before YOU eat." - Justin's Dad

albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:39:31pm

back in the old days...
there were eight comments a night for weeks on end

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:39:41pm

Knopfler's signature Dobro steel guitar riffs on 'Romeo and Juliet':

Youtube Video

UP Border Collie Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:41:35pm

re: #27 ArchangelMichael

I don't know...I've got 2 border collies mixes and they shit on command...and will do ANYTHING for food. Don't know if I would like for BOTH of those activities to occur in the kitchen.

Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:41:43pm

Looks like the progressives are trying to play catch up...

Florida Rep. Alan Grayson, under fire for conservatives for describing the gist of their health care plans as "die quickly," is not exactly backing down from claims he's crossed a line of civility.

Just now on the floor, he called on members of the House to pass health care reform in the most extreme terms possible:

"I apologize to the dead and Fltheir families athat we haven't voted sooner to end this holocaust in America," Grayson said.

[Link: www.politico.com...]

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:43:19pm

The original video and a much better recording of 'Romeo...'

Youtube Video

Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:47:47pm

re: #25 UP Border Collie

Does the UP stand for Union Pacific or Upper Peninsula?

albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:49:19pm

re: #29 ryannon

Knopfler's signature Dobro steel guitar riffs on 'Romeo and Juliet':

I've never known Knoffler to use a steel...I could be wrong, but I don't hear it on this tune...sounds like his signature finger pickin

Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:52:21pm

The ultimate truth at 3.50.

Randall Gross Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:53:04pm

The other Romeo song

Youtube Video

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:53:11pm

re: #34 albusteve

I've never known Knoffler to use a steel...I could be wrong, but I don't hear it on this tune...sounds like his signature finger pickin

Check out the video at approximately 1:34

Youtube Video

You'll see the same guitar in videos of other live performances...

Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:53:43pm

White House Calls Out Fox By Name For Lying

In a new post on the official White House blog, an administration official specifically names Fox News for lying about the administration's push to bring the Olympics to Chicago.
"Last night Fox News continued its disregard for the facts," the post begins, "in an attempt to smear the Administration's efforts to win the Olympics for the United States."

The author, White House online programs director Jesse Lee, goes on to point out several quotes from Glenn Beck, which it says are lies, and the truth behind them. ("Rhetoric: Beck said Vancouver lost $1 billion when it 'had the Olympics.' ... Reality: Vancouver's Olympics Will Not Take Place Until 2010.")

The Sanity Inspector Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:57:06pm

My fave Dire Straits song is Skataway:

Youtube Video

wii42 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:58:12pm

These mist covered mountains Are a home now for me But my home is the lowlands And always will be Some day you'll return to Your valleys and your farms And you'll no longer burn To be brothers in arms
Through these fields of destruction Baptisms of fire I've witnessed your suffering As the battle raged higher And though they did hurt me so bad In the fear and alarm You did not desert me My brothers in arms

There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones

Now the sun's gone to hell And the moon's riding high Let me bid you farewell Every man has to die But it's written in the starlight And every line in your palm We're fools to make war On our brothers in arms

albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:59:04pm

re: #37 ryannon

Check out the video at approximately 1:34

You'll see the same guitar in videos of other live performances...

he's playing a resonator guitar, maybe a Dobro...but the steel is the slide you play this type of guitar with...kinda confusing because the guitar itself is now sometimes called a steel guitar...nevertheless a steel guitar is always played with a slide...according to tradition anyway

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:05:39pm

re: #41 albusteve

he's playing a resonator guitar, maybe a Dobro...but the steel is the slide you play this type of guitar with...kinda confusing because the guitar itself is now sometimes called a steel guitar...nevertheless a steel guitar is always played with a slide...according to tradition anyway

I always heard what you've mentioned above as 'bottleneck' or slide guitar. The Dobro was called a 'steel guitar'. Perhaps Charles would like to give his opinion on the subject before we start tearing each other's finger-picks out?

Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:05:50pm

re: #31 Walter L. Newton

Hmmm. Maybe they should look a bit closer at what some of their own people have said. As well as who they are hanging with.

three-time Democratic governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, sounded a similar theme in 1984, while still governor, saying "terminally ill people have a duty to die and get out of the way."

Buster Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:12:37pm

re: #39 The Sanity Inspector

Did you see the size of the radio and the headphones on the skater girl! The music has held up remarkably well. There was a lot of crap in the 80's but I can't recall a bad Dire Straights album.

albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:13:57pm

re: #42 ryannon

I always heard what you've mentioned above as 'bottleneck' or slide guitar. The Dobro was called a 'steel guitar'. Perhaps Charles would like to give his opinion on the subject before we start tearing each other's finger-picks out?

don't get me wrong...I was just pointing out some old time nuances...a bottle neck is just another term for using a slide...in the old days it was usually an acoustic...which is what Dobros and other resonators are...Dobro is just a make name...if you play it with a slide it's a steel guitar...if you stick a pickup on an old Dobro then I don't know what you'd call it...all in fun anyway

The Sanity Inspector Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:15:03pm

Now, the greatest fan re-edit of the greatest live performance of the greatest rock song ever happens to be this:

Youtube Video

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:19:31pm

re: #45 albusteve

don't get me wrong...I was just pointing out some old time nuances...a bottle neck is just another term for using a slide...in the old days it was usually an acoustic...which is what Dobros and other resonators are...Dobro is just a make name...if you play it with a slide it's a steel guitar...if you stick a pickup on an old Dobro then I don't know what you'd call it...all in fun anyway

ahem...

[Link: images.google.com...]

albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:23:34pm

re: #47 ryannon

ahem...

[Link: images.google.com...]

the pedal steel is a whole different animal...but still played with a slide, hence the name steel guitar...or pedal steel...the 'steel' is the slide itself

ryannon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:27:43pm

re: #48 albusteve

the pedal steel is a whole different animal...but still played with a slide, hence the name steel guitar...or pedal steel...the 'steel' is the slide itself

Yes, I know.

The images also include a whole range of Dobro and Dobro-type guitars - known generically as - and I maintain my assertion - 'steel guitars.'

Gus Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:28:44pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

White House Calls Out Fox By Name For Lying

The whole thing is a joke. Fox "News" is manufacturing a controversy where there isn't one.

Guess who is the Chairman and CEO of the Chicago 2016 bid committee team? Patrick G. Ryan who is also chairman of AON corporation. Here's a portion of his Federal Election Commission results:

ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PARTY
06/09/2004 5000.00 25990154974
03/02/2007 5000.00 27930644907
02/14/2008 5000.00 28930836730

Miles D. White is the vice chair and Chief Executive Officer of Abbott pharmaceuticals. Another Republican donor. 24,000 dollars to the RNC in 2004; 20,000 dollars to the RNC in 2007; and amongst others he also donated 2,100 dollars to Rick Santorum in 2006.

NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE
08/29/2007 10000.00 28020110682
SANTORUM, RICHARD J
VIA SANTORUM 2006
10/18/2006 2100.00 27020083892

Republican Patrick G. Ryan is the bid leader in the Chicago Olympics bid.

“Having him there for us would be a great asset because he’s done so much for our bid, has been so outspoken, that everyone knows how committed he is,” Patrick G. Ryan, Chicago’s bid leader, said recently at Chicago 2016 headquarters. “The I.O.C. knows that he has presidential business and would be there if he could.”

Also on Mr. Ryan from Wiki:

Patrick G. Ryan is the founder and retired executive chairman of Aon Corporation. He is the Chairman and CEO of the Chicago 2016 Olympic bid committee. He is also a leading benefactor of the Art Institute of Chicago Building's Modern wing addition.

In 2004, Ryan hosted President George W. Bush during a political fundraising dinner at his home in Winnetka, Illinois. Later that year, he hosted another fundraiser with President Bush's wife and daughters as special guests.

Mark Pennington Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:54:23pm

I have this on my ipod. I'm currently on a Regina Spektor kick.

Mark Pennington Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:55:35pm

re: #39 The Sanity Inspector

Thanks! *downloads*

The Sanity Inspector Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:11:42pm

Here's some lovely steel guitar playing:

Youtube Video

UP Border Collie Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:15:00pm

re: #33 Fenway_Nation

Sorry for not replying sooner. In answer...it's "Say YAH to the UP, eh?" in other words...Upper Peninsula.

Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:50:23pm

I know this is a dead thread, but I had to say thank you to Charles for this song. It's great but given its use here to commemorate soldiers who have died, this song will always have a mournful connotation to me. Realwest started that tradition and though he is gone, I felt it appropriate to note his use of the song.

Caboose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:17:59pm

I want my eMpTyVee,
I want my eMpTyVee...
:-)

(This song always gets me right there. First time I've seen this video, though...)

TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:58:43pm

I know this is an inactive thread too...but Dire Straits owns my soul.

stormy Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:10pm

I've always thought this song/video is a window into the "real" Dire Straits. This was made without thinking about what the "fans" might think. Real music by the real Dire Straits. Good stuff.

The popular stuff is all good, but there's nothing like knowing that somewhere down deep they remember why they started making music and weren't afraid to let it out.

Blizard Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:54:16pm

re: #57 TheMatrix31

I know this is an inactive thread too...but Dire Straits owns my soul.

Agree...

Sultans of Swing is my number one song, all time.

Dr. Shalit Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:04:38pm

re: #59 Blizard

Agree...

Sultans of Swing is my number one song, all time.

Blizard -

And so it is - Dire Straits #2 is "Money for Nothing" - #3 is "Walk of Life" - #4 is in Beethovian Trope (5th Symphony) - "Calling Elvis."
Mark Knopfler - a sung - not enough - Genius - enough to have sold 120 Million Albums. That is all.

-S-

Blizard Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:24:53pm

On Every Street, probably my #2. I still get chills every time I hear it.

justinm1 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:40:45pm

Was front and center for him at Summer Stage in NYC a couple years ago, great show. He is quite the innovator. Also, this is my first post, I'm glad to be part of the community...

piraticalbob Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:50:47pm

My favorite Dire Straits tune; thanks for putting it up, Charles. Knopfler was mostly a Strat/Fender-type player (single-coil pickups, clean sound) until this particular album, when he picked up the Les Paul and proved he could play the sweet lyrical legato stuff as well as anyone.

Blizard Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:59:52pm

re: #62 justinm1

Was front and center for him at Summer Stage in NYC a couple years ago, great show. He is quite the innovator. Also, this is my first post, I'm glad to be part of the community...

It's a dead thread but us noobs keep it going, heh. Cheers!

Dad O' Blondes Thu, Oct 1, 2009 7:08:15pm

Mark Knoplfer and Eric Clapton -- LIVE

Youtube Video

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