6 | RealityBasedSteve Jun 26, 2015 7:56:18pm |
Already I’m hearing “And HOW MUCH is this costing the Taxpayers?”
Idiots.
RBS
7 | Tigger2 Jun 26, 2015 7:57:10pm |
Free Republic goons are in full meltdown mode over this,
8 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 7:57:12pm |
re: #6 RealityBasedSteve
Already I’m hearing “And HOW MUCH is this costing the Taxpayers?”
Idiots.
RBS
A lot less than the 100+ ACA repeals Boehner has pulled.
9 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Jun 26, 2015 7:58:21pm |
re: #6 RealityBasedSteve
Already I’m hearing “And HOW MUCH is this costing the Taxpayers?”
Idiots.
RBS
Prolly about a hundred bucks.
10 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 7:59:11pm |
re: #6 RealityBasedSteve
Already I’m hearing “And HOW MUCH is this costing the Taxpayers?”
Idiots.
RBS
the price of big gay is bleeding us dry
i shouldn’t have my yearly taxes have to power a colored lightbulb for an hour
i hoe that at least those are incandescent bulbs!
11 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 7:59:56pm |
So glad we have a president who values equality.
12 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:02:01pm |
re: #11 HappyWarrior
So glad we have a president who values equality.
Imagine how a President Romney would have acted all week long.
13 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 8:02:28pm |
14 | William Lewis Jun 26, 2015 8:02:39pm |
On the google page right now:
YouTube and Google are proud to celebrate marriage equality. #ProudtoLove
15 | RealityBasedSteve Jun 26, 2015 8:02:48pm |
re: #7 Tigger2
Free Republic goons are in full meltdown mode over this,
I can imagine. I’d check it out, but I’m eating my dinner right now and would hate to lose my appetite.
RBS
16 | psddluva4evah Jun 26, 2015 8:04:01pm |
Guys, I don’t know if it’s showing everywhere, but my local PBS station just happens to be showing the White House In Performance series, American Gospel segment.
Miss Re-Re herself, is “taking everybody to church: at the White House.
Just heard a song by Lyle Lovett that I never heard before. It was beautiful. All the music was.
I haven’t been to a church service in DECADES, but I still remember all the songs sung in my grandmother’s church and damn if I don’t feel that spirit right now.
It’s being rebroadcast at 1030 EST I believe
17 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 8:04:47pm |
re: #7 Tigger2
Free Republic goons are in full meltdown mode over this,
18 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 8:05:49pm |
Let them get angry. This country got more free today.
19 | goddamnedfrank Jun 26, 2015 8:06:06pm |
re: #9 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Prolly about a hundred bucks.
Less. You can get Lee gel pack with two each of all six colors for $25. They already had the lights.
20 | Lidane Jun 26, 2015 8:06:09pm |
Empire State Building, Niagara Falls, Disney World and The White House tonight in America #LoveWins pic.twitter.com/H7ofyRsyfV
— r.i.p kalief browder (@BlondeInLondon) June 27, 2015
21 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:06:40pm |
re: #7 Tigger2
Free Republic goons are in full meltdown mode over this,
Those guys need to shut up and get their checkbooks out for JimRob so they can keep up their uber successful fight against Obama, gay rights, universal health care, mythical gun grabbing and the war on Christianity.
Thank God they are their on the front lines keeping all of those bad things at bay!!!!
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22 | RealityBasedSteve Jun 26, 2015 8:07:18pm |
23 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 8:08:00pm |
The gays and Lesbians are legally getting married and smoking dope in the streets of Denver and Seattle tonight. My God.
— Richard M. Nixon (@PresNixonUSA) June 27, 2015
24 | #FergusonFireside Jun 26, 2015 8:08:06pm |
25 | wrenchwench Jun 26, 2015 8:08:37pm |
I goat you a flower ?? pic.twitter.com/mVu7euOBsR
— Sassy Goats (@TheSassyGoats) June 27, 2015
26 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:09:17pm |
This week this country became a better country. Folks will be reading about this week in their history books shaking their heads that all of this stuff happened in a week’s time.
27 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 8:10:28pm |
re: #23 teleskiguy
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Still would rather have him than any Republican running. How fucked up are they that I say that.
28 | prairiefire Jun 26, 2015 8:10:55pm |
re: #24 #FergusonFireside
We do! Love. Love. Love.
Nothing else but love you motherfuckers.
We will take it where we can get it! Love won, won won!
29 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 8:11:06pm |
30 | psddluva4evah Jun 26, 2015 8:14:39pm |
GIF of the night! This is me when my family tries to come over to my house unannounced! pic.twitter.com/Ol2MxDGBZ1
— Nelly B (@psddluva4evah) June 27, 2015
31 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 8:15:24pm |
This week, the twilight zone.
— deray mckesson (@deray) June 27, 2015
Yup.
32 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:16:21pm |
Some of the wingiest of wingnuts are causing cracks in the dam
I've often wondered why married people have unequal tax advantages over unmarried people. Is that not discriminatory?
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) June 26, 2015
33 | goddamnedfrank Jun 26, 2015 8:17:16pm |
Josh Smith is in full meltdown. By morning there’s just going to be a pair of smoldering clown shoes lying in some rubble.
Nope. We're skipping straight to incest, Alan. https://t.co/Mx24aEWfZv RT @AlanColmes: Op-Ed Calls For Polygamy Next http://t.co/19wUOPnMS0
— Josh Smith (@Ebolamerican) June 27, 2015
I'd also like to point out that you think Chuck Johnson is more despicable than this. Maybe step back & recalibrate. pic.twitter.com/JnUvnqKAS4
— Josh Smith (@Ebolamerican) June 27, 2015
34 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 8:18:22pm |
re: #32 bill d
Some of the wingiest of wingnuts are causing cracks in the dam
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Really James?
35 | RealityBasedSteve Jun 26, 2015 8:18:25pm |
re: #25 wrenchwench
I goat you a flower
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That one is so far past baaad that it’s come full circle and is good.
RBS
36 | wrenchwench Jun 26, 2015 8:21:50pm |
So two guys in their 80s just walked into a Dallas court and got married #LoveWins pic.twitter.com/dXEd4zm9IB
— R.Saddler (@Politics_PR) June 26, 2015
37 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:23:18pm |
if Vox says so:
Barack Obama is officially one of the most consequential presidents in American history
but damn, they make a pretty good case
38 | psddluva4evah Jun 26, 2015 8:24:11pm |
My other GIF of the night…dedicated to my gay fam!
Wait…wait…one more GIF OF THE NIGHT! pic.twitter.com/8SktIAyEtb
— Nelly B (@psddluva4evah) June 27, 2015
39 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 26, 2015 8:26:22pm |
re: #23 teleskiguy
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The gays and Lesbians are legally getting married and smoking dope in the streets of Denver and Seattle tonight. My God.
— Richard M. Nixon (@PresNixonUSA) June 27, 2015
Why do you think they call it dope, Dick?
“Cause it’s totally dope, y’all!!”
Just now caught up, but congratulations to all of us for moving forward a step today. The wingnut tears are so nourishing!
40 | jaunte Jun 26, 2015 8:27:12pm |
@GregAbbott_TX @ChuckKos20 God never defined or made marriage. Man did. Keep your misinformation out of governance. Bible scholars all know
— Bev Cowling (@songbird_63366) June 27, 2015
41 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:28:31pm |
The wingnut tears of impotent rage are so delicious
Our own White House is bathed in the symbol of anti-Christian oppression. #BigGayHateFlag
— John Nolte (@NolteNC) June 27, 2015
42 | Lidane Jun 26, 2015 8:28:43pm |
ROFL, this is awesome:
Dude, it was built by slave labor. Warren G. Harding fucked there. Andrew Jackson kept a giant cheese wheel in it. pic.twitter.com/TvAP9EPmfP
— Big Sexy Jeb! Lund (@Mobute) June 27, 2015
43 | austin_blue Jun 26, 2015 8:30:08pm |
Equal protection under the law seems to rule.
About damn time.
But wait, does this mean my marriage of 21 years is a farce?
Oh, My God! I feel a sudden need to suck cocks!
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47 | Blind Frog Belly White Jun 26, 2015 8:34:35pm |
48 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:34:44pm |
re: #42 Lidane
ROFL, this is awesome:
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lol, sacred giant cheese wheel.
Teddy Roosevelt turned the place into a petting zoo and the place was such a neglected dump that it almost fell down due to negligence and decay during the Truman presidency
49 | piratedan Jun 26, 2015 8:37:24pm |
I sure would like some examples of how teh ghey have oppressed Christians, shit about the only thing that may have been oppressed over would be against Evangelical fashion designers… ///////////////////////////////////////
50 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:38:18pm |
The Twitter version of clapping for Tinkerbell:
RT if you believe marriage is the union of one man and one woman. https://t.co/7mf9mLaZ78 #Rick2016
— Rick Santorum (@RickSantorum) June 26, 2015
53 | Blind Frog Belly White Jun 26, 2015 8:42:19pm |
re: #50 bill d
The Twitter version of clapping for Tinkerbell:
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“Believe in Traditional Marriage? Send me money to prove it!”
54 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 8:42:22pm |
re: #51 jaunte
Wow, 299 retweets.
It’s literally .001% of all the Twitter accounts that follow anal leakage.
55 | RealityBasedSteve Jun 26, 2015 8:43:19pm |
56 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:43:42pm |
57 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:44:42pm |
re: #54 teleskiguy
It’s literally .001% of all the Twitter accounts that follow anal leakage.
Retweeting entails a big commitment.
58 | Franklin Jun 26, 2015 8:45:16pm |
Ok heading to bed. Was great spending today with you all.
59 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:46:37pm |
Hahahahaha;
#tcot is already looking for the Muslims to bail them out.
So now thar same-sex marriage is legal in all states, when are mosques going to be required to perform them? #tcot pic.twitter.com/z6QMyQdDPh
— ┌П┐(•_•) (@exposeliberals) June 27, 2015
60 | RealityBasedSteve Jun 26, 2015 8:46:46pm |
re: #54 teleskiguy
It’s literally .001% of all the Twitter accounts that follow anal leakage.
What about Productive Flatulence? That’s the problem with America, too many people just farting around, and not enough being productive.
RBS
61 | b_sharp Jun 26, 2015 8:48:58pm |
You Americans are some weird ass motherfuckers. Same sex marriage and universal healthcare sure didn’t take that much effort up here and when we got it we didn’t celebrate anywhere near as much.
It’s like you fight to not poke yourselves in the eye with a stick and then weep tears of joy when you finally drop the stick.
Good on ya.
You sure the fuck aren’t boring.
62 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:49:33pm |
re: #60 RealityBasedSteve
What about Productive Flatulence? That’s the problem with America, too many people just farting around, and not enough being productive.
RBS
The biggest threat to America is the sweatervest. If you read closely you’ll see how there is no reference to the sweatervest in the bible.
63 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 8:51:33pm |
64 | RealityBasedSteve Jun 26, 2015 8:53:18pm |
re: #61 b_sharp
You Americans are some weird ass motherfuckers. Same sex marriage and universal healthcare sure didn’t take that much effort up here and when we got it we didn’t celebrate anywhere near as much.
It’s like you fight to not poke yourselves in the eye with a stick and then weep tears of joy when you finally drop the stick.
Good on ya.
You sure the fuck aren’t boring.
Just a heads up… incoming your way.
The Liberals have won the battle for America. Its 100% over. Canada is fare more conservative and not racist against whites or Christians.
— FreeRepublic.txt (@FreeRepublicTXT) June 27, 2015
Nah, don’t tell them ahead of time, let them be pleasantly surprised when they arrive.
RBS
65 | The Ghost of a Bikini Shank Jun 26, 2015 8:54:42pm |
What I’m thinking is, build a fully sapient artificial being, then seduce it.
The radical recontextualization of love and sexuality will make all intra-human issues seem small and petty.
Unfortunately, I don’t know how to control for the inevitability that an AI smart enough to think about romance and sex could be smart enough to design another AI that is even smarter about romance and sex, so a dozen developmental generations on, the human race is choked to extinction on robot sex pollution and the hurts-your-teeth twee sweetness of two sapient supercomputers who are just so perfectly compatible and happy together.
66 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:55:02pm |
This week we were offered a glimpse of the raw power of #tcot in all of their productive and policy changing glory.
67 | calochortus Jun 26, 2015 8:55:05pm |
re: #64 RealityBasedSteve
Just a heads up… incoming your way.
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Nah, don’t tell them ahead of time, let them be pleasantly surprised when they arrive.
RBS
If liberals have won 100%, could we have single payer healthcare for all please?
68 | b.d. Jun 26, 2015 8:55:50pm |
re: #64 RealityBasedSteve
Just a heads up… incoming your way.
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Nah, don’t tell them ahead of time, let them be pleasantly surprised when they arrive.
RBS
Canada sounds like a great place for the future wingnut homeland.
69 | Tigger2 Jun 26, 2015 8:57:43pm |
re: #15 RealityBasedSteve
I can imagine. I’d check it out, but I’m eating my dinner right now and would hate to lose my appetite.
RBS
LOL they are calling it Barry’s Bathhouse.
70 | wrenchwench Jun 26, 2015 8:58:06pm |
71 | Kragar Jun 26, 2015 8:59:08pm |
Someone is spending too much time thinking about molesting farm animals https://t.co/Na3CAB4NZG
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 27, 2015
And what about sheep shaggers, camel chasers, and other faunaphiles? No seriously, folks, this bloke has a problem! https://t.co/YAEtciQIIR
— Robert Waddell (@TroyWaddell) June 27, 2015
73 | psddluva4evah Jun 26, 2015 8:59:45pm |
I work evenings, so I missed the memorial in SC.
But I’m catching up now. Man…those pics of FLOTUS and POTUS arriving and greeting the Pinckney girls and their mom
This has got to be hitting FLOTUS really hard! Sen Pinckney…father of two girls, Black politician…there but by the grace of God…and all that.
Brought to mind when FLOTUS talked about her worse fears on the campaign trail when she talked about why she was scared for Barack to run for President.
And I see this pic with Mrs Pinckney and her girls and I’m just overcome.
Sorry to be a debbie downer…but with all the good news today and yesterday…the SC funeral was sobering.
Malana Pinckney glances at President Barack Obama at service honoring her father, the late Rev. Clementa… #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/6i7RZE3ilH
— The Progressive Mind (@Libertea2012) June 27, 2015
74 | Belafon Jun 26, 2015 9:04:56pm |
It’s a two-fer:
Getting married today following the #SCOTUS ruling? You qualify for a special enrollment period for insurance under the SCOTUS-affirmed #ACA
— Joanne Peters (@JoannePtrs) June 26, 2015
75 | calochortus Jun 26, 2015 9:05:23pm |
re: #73 psddluva4evah
So much waste, so much sorrow-and for what?
76 | Tigger2 Jun 26, 2015 9:06:06pm |
re: #50 bill d
The Twitter version of clapping for Tinkerbell:
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@RickSantorum Personally I think you are a bigot. RT if you agree with me.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) June 27, 2015
77 | gwangung Jun 26, 2015 9:06:33pm |
re: #73 psddluva4evah
I work evenings, so I missed the memorial in SC.
But I’m catching up now. Man…those pics of FLOTUS and POTUS arriving and greeting the Pinckney girls and their mom
This has got to be hitting FLOTUS really hard! Sen Pinckney…father of two girls, Black politician…there but by the grace of God…and all that.
Brought to mind when FLOTUS talked about her worse fears on the campaign trail when she talked about why she was scared for Barack to run for President.
And I see this pic with Mrs Pinckney and her girls and I’m just overcome.
Sorry to be a debbie downer…but with all the good news today and yesterday…the SC funeral was sobering.
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I was sniffling just from the tweets from the service.
78 | TedStriker Jun 26, 2015 9:07:13pm |
re: #61 b_sharp
You Americans are some weird ass motherfuckers. Same sex marriage and universal healthcare sure didn’t take that much effort up here and when we got it we didn’t celebrate anywhere near as much.
It’s like you fight to not poke yourselves in the eye with a stick and then weep tears of joy when you finally drop the stick.
Good on ya.
You sure the fuck aren’t boring.
We are a weird bunch, but you try fighting the Party of God No on this most basic of shit…you’d be celebrating like we are, too.
79 | HappyWarrior Jun 26, 2015 9:07:39pm |
re: #76 Tigger2
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RT if you’re tired of Republicans being unable talk about issues so they scapegoat gays.
80 | TedStriker Jun 26, 2015 9:11:58pm |
re: #74 Belafon
It’s a two-fer:
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Two for the price of one, plus a dollar…
(look at the Family Booterie [a shoe store that used to be here in Nashville] ad at 0:32)
81 | Tigger2 Jun 26, 2015 9:11:59pm |
82 | The Ghost of a Bikini Shank Jun 26, 2015 9:15:06pm |
re: #61 b_sharp
You Americans are some weird ass motherfuckers. Same sex marriage and universal healthcare sure didn’t take that much effort up here and when we got it we didn’t celebrate anywhere near as much.
It’s like you fight to not poke yourselves in the eye with a stick and then weep tears of joy when you finally drop the stick.
Good on ya.
You sure the fuck aren’t boring.
My Christian education was Anglican, in Britain.
Like, thirty years later I’m still trying to figure out at what exact point in US non-denom Christian they hand out the secret decoder ring that lets you figure what parts of the Old Testament God will Cronenburg you for, and the “nah, he didn’t mean it” bits like forgiving debts every Jubilee.
That’s in addition to the more simple struggle of, “if God’s plan is to kill everybody via Revelations, junk, how do you differentiation general God-smite death tolls from prophecy-mandated tolls?”
83 | Varek Raith Jun 26, 2015 9:15:18pm |
re: #61 b_sharp
You Americans are some weird ass motherfuckers. Same sex marriage and universal healthcare sure didn’t take that much effort up here and when we got it we didn’t celebrate anywhere near as much.
It’s like you fight to not poke yourselves in the eye with a stick and then weep tears of joy when you finally drop the stick.
Good on ya.
You sure the fuck aren’t boring.
A Canadian calling anyone weird?
Rofl.
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84 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 9:19:58pm |
Anybody who's a goddamned hippie knows that the #umphreys are where it's at. Phish was good, in like, the 90s, man. @JamesUrbaniak
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) June 27, 2015
@teleskiguy Look, at least I didn't say the Dead.
— James Urbaniak (@JamesUrbaniak) June 27, 2015
85 | b_sharp Jun 26, 2015 9:20:52pm |
re: #78 TedStriker
We are a weird bunch, but you try fighting the Party of
GodNo on this most basic of shit…you’d be celebrating like we are, too.
I am.
86 | piratedan Jun 26, 2015 9:21:15pm |
re: #84 teleskiguy
it’s awesome that you get to talk to Dr. Venture
87 | b_sharp Jun 26, 2015 9:24:10pm |
re: #83 Varek Raith
A Canadian calling anyone weird?
Rofl.
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We’re in the best position to recognize it.
95 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 9:49:53pm |
96 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 26, 2015 10:00:18pm |
97 | The War TARDIS Jun 26, 2015 10:08:35pm |
The Libyan Branch of ISIL is suspected in the attack in Tunisia yesterday.
Hopefully, this will be a rude awakening to help out the Tobruk government. Not only that, but one wonders how they entered Tunisia. I would think through the border, which is controlled by the nasty MB government, which recently attacked the Tunisian Embassy in Tripoli.
98 | Jayleia Jun 26, 2015 10:20:16pm |
Didn’t realize we had a new thread going when I posted this…
@TPM It's really sad that @weeklystandard used the classic borg phrase AND DIDN'T INCLUDE RAINBOW BORG OR A RAINBOW CUBE!
— jay (@random__name) June 27, 2015
99 | Viscous Obama Jun 26, 2015 10:35:24pm |
A brief summary of the court’s dissents today
Roberts - mendacious
Scalia - asshole
Alito - stupid
Thomas - motherfucking nuclear insanity
100 | BeachDem Jun 26, 2015 10:35:48pm |
Back from movie watching. Watched “In America.” Just seemed appropriate today for some reason. Hadn’t watched it in a long time—love that movie.
Back to reality. Could Ted Cruz be any more full of shit?
“I’ve introduced a constitutional amendment that would protect the authority of state legislatures to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. We should pass that amendment,”
Uh huh, we’ll get right on that, Teddie.
Cruz also proposed a Constitutional amendment that would subject Justices to retention elections every eight years in an op-ed for the National Review. Each Justice, he said, would be up for election after the second presidential election following their appointment to the high court.
“Those justices deemed unfit for retention by both a majority of the American people as a whole and by majorities of the electorates in at least half of the 50 states will be removed from office and disqualified from future service on the Court,” he wrote.
WTF does the part I bolded even mean? Somebody? Anybody?
Edited to warn: The photo accompanying this story is what nightmares are made of!
101 | BeachDem Jun 26, 2015 10:40:02pm |
re: #99 Viscous Obama
A brief summary of the court’s dissents today
Roberts - mendacious
Scalia - asshole
Alito - stupid
Thomas - motherfucking nuclear insanity
Excellent analysis. Or, as Kaili Joy Gray describes them at Wonkette:
Supreme Court Losers Lose Their Sh*t Over Gay Marriage, And It’s Delightful
Halfway through her dissection of Thomas’s idiocy, she writes:
Wait a minute — does anyone even care what Thomas thinks? No? OK, moving on.
102 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 26, 2015 10:44:07pm |
re: #100 BeachDem
Back from movie watching. Watched “In America.” Just seemed appropriate today for some reason. Hadn’t watched it in a long time—love that movie.
Back to reality. Could Ted Cruz be any more full of shit?
“I’ve introduced a constitutional amendment that would protect the authority of state legislatures to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. We should pass that amendment,”
Uh huh, we’ll get right on that, Teddie.
Cruz also proposed a Constitutional amendment that would subject Justices to retention elections every eight years in an op-ed for the National Review. Each Justice, he said, would be up for election after the second presidential election following their appointment to the high court.
“Those justices deemed unfit for retention by both a majority of the American people as a whole and by majorities of the electorates in at least half of the 50 states will be removed from office and disqualified from future service on the Court,” he wrote.
WTF does the part I bolded even mean? Somebody? Anybody?
That sure as Hell sounds like a national referendum to me—which I know we don’t have in this country, but apparently Harvard Educated Lawyer™ Ted Cruz doesn’t. Hey Gomer! There’s another constitutional amendment you’re going to need as a prerequisite to that one.
But then, I’m not even a thawed-out caveman lawyer….
103 | goddamnedfrank Jun 26, 2015 10:53:53pm |
Christ, I’ve got an infestation of @PolitiBunny minions all up in my mentions.
104 | Viscous Obama Jun 26, 2015 10:56:00pm |
re: #101 BeachDem
Excellent analysis. Or, as Kaili Joy Gray describes them at Wonkette:
Supreme Court Losers Lose Their Sh*t Over Gay Marriage, And It’s Delightful
Halfway through her dissection of Thomas’s idiocy, she writes:
Wait a minute — does anyone even care what Thomas thinks? No? OK, moving on.
Thomas is nuts, but I can’t get over how dim Alito is — he’s come up with spurious “intrinsic rights” and other bullshit during his tenure, but transparently ruling on what he thinks will be the supposed outcome is a mockery of judicial review. Nor should one assume marriage merely exists as, in his words, to “encourage potentially procreative conduct”. Where does it say that in the marriage document, fool?
105 | goddamnedfrank Jun 26, 2015 11:14:05pm |
How is it 2015 and we still don’t have a jerk off motion emoji?
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
106 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 11:17:21pm |
re: #103 goddamnedfrank
Christ, I’ve got an infestation of @PolitiBunny minions all up in my mentions.
I noticed the, uh, dialogue you guise have been having. I found out tonight that I am blocked by @PolitiBunny.
Huh.
107 | goddamnedfrank Jun 26, 2015 11:23:40pm |
re: #106 teleskiguy
I noticed the, uh, dialogue you guise have been having. I found out tonight that I am blocked by @PolitiBunny.
Huh.
I was blocking her but follow @lacoguy and he has civil conversations with her so I decided to wade in and boy was that a mistake. She can front some really annoying arguments nothing I’m not prepared to handle, and she keeps it more or less on the level. Her followers however are the worst.
108 | teleskiguy Jun 26, 2015 11:27:53pm |
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
I was blocking her but follow @lacoguy and he has civil conversations with her so I decided to wade in and boy was that a mistake. She can front some really annoying arguments nothing I’m not prepared to handle, and she keeps it more or less on the level. Her followers however are the worst.
She’s a crazy hardcore John Galt libertarian who at one time was an esteemed member of the Twitter Gulag Defense Network. She’s very selfish.
109 | Kragar Jun 26, 2015 11:41:57pm |
re: #105 goddamnedfrank
Best I can do @goddamnedfrank pic.twitter.com/CozmXxE2Sk
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 27, 2015
110 | goddamnedfrank Jun 26, 2015 11:46:51pm |
I mean, why exactly should we care about that? They’re long dead, so isn’t it time we buried their social prejudices along with them?
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
Because what they DID put into the Constitution was a 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause that plainly says it applies to “any person.”
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
111 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 26, 2015 11:51:51pm |
Fired up the GotNwes type-a-writers again:
EXCLUSIVE: Kicked to the curb yet again, blogger laments visiting DC event
The absolutely true story of how blogger Award Winning JournalistTM and libel-suit filer Chuck C. Johnson got dis-invited from yet another GOP political event, as told to our vivid imagination.
*********I haven’t had much to do lately, what with my Twitter access gone and GotNewsDotCom sitting dead in the water, so you can imagine how excited I was when a friend asked to attend a bash held by Grover Norquist in DC.
Did you know I met Grover Norquist once? Yeah, it was at CPAC. We talked about immigration and Japanese land policy while we stood at the urinals. As I recall, he finished before I did.
Anyway, this being America, I tend to go to places I’m invited to. They don’t do that in other countries. I know. I’ve been to more countries than you have.
More at gotnwes.com
112 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 12:01:14am |
And an exclusive report on 21 days without GotNewsDotCom
EXCLUSIVE: ‘New media’ disrupter GotNewsDotCom dead in water 21 days
113 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 12:01:18am |
And by “glitch” in the 14A I mean shit they couldn’t have foreseen and they’re fucking dead now so who gives a shit about their intent.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
114 | Kragar Jun 27, 2015 12:05:26am |
115 | teleskiguy Jun 27, 2015 12:09:45am |
re: #113 goddamnedfrank
That’s the second time I’ve posted a Hulk Hogan meme since the mandatory gay marriage Supreme Dictators putsch came through yesterday. Yikes.
116 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 12:15:55am |
“heard you were—crap heard you—agh heard you w—jesus gimme a sec—argh heard you were talking smack . pic.twitter.com/9BtBwintks”
— Cat Porn(TM) (@CatPornx) June 27, 2015
117 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 12:32:52am |
re: #59 bill d
So now thar same-sex marriage is legal in all states, when are mosques going to be required to perform them?
Oh I forgot, this is the first step to outlawing Christian marriage and allowing only gays to marry.
/
118 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 12:33:35am |
Oh, goody! Radical Anxiety Termination is here!
119 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 12:40:58am |
On a somewhat related note, Al Jazeera did a documentary about gay conversion therapy in China.
It doesn’t work in China, either.
120 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 12:43:43am |
re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Oh I forgot, this is the first step to outlawing Christian marriage and allowing only gays to marry.
/
So, I wake up here in Europe, and lo and behold, much to my surprise, the North American continent still hasn’t fallen into the fiery, molten pit of Hell.
What’s up with that?
*chuckles to self*
121 | The Ghost of a Bikini Shank Jun 27, 2015 12:48:38am |
re: #120 Dr Lizardo
So, I wake up here in Europe, and lo and behold, much to my surprise, the North American continent still hasn’t fallen into the fiery, molten pit of Hell.
What’s up with that?
*chuckles to self*
Wingnut God’s wrath schedules according to the US Central timezone.
122 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 12:49:13am |
re: #120 Dr Lizardo
So, I wake up here in Europe, and lo and behold, much to my surprise, the North American continent still hasn’t fallen into the fiery, molten pit of Hell.
What’s up with that?
*chuckles to self*
God is waiting for the 4th of July to make his point clear…
123 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 12:52:53am |
re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
God is waiting for the 4th of July to make his point clear…
Well, if he’s going to smite the USA, he needs to do it before Aug. 3, when I’ll be flying into Chicago. Just sayin’.
124 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 12:55:20am |
re: #123 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Well, if he’s going to smite the USA, he needs to do it before Aug. 3, when I’ll be flying into Chicago. Just sayin’.
It will be a pile of glowing rubble by then.
125 | nkdee Jun 27, 2015 12:58:44am |
re: #26 bill d
This week this country became a better country. Folks will be reading about this week in their history books shaking their heads that all of this stuff happened in a week’s time.
And all during an Administration that the opposition vowed (and worked toward) destroying. I love it.
126 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 12:59:44am |
re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
It will be a pile of glowing rubble by then.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to discover that some of the wingnuttier folks are praying non-stop for some kind of natural disaster, perhaps a terrorist attack, or some other horrific event. I’m also pretty sure they’re frantically hoping the Rapture (a non-biblical concept, btw) takes place PDQ.
Of course natural disasters happen - they’ve always happened; it’s the price we pay for living on a geologically active planet. But they’re no doubt hoping for one so they can ascribe some kind of supernatural meaning to it.
127 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 1:06:37am |
re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
It will be a pile of glowing rubble by then.
Damn. Well, maybe we can be diverted to Montreal. Never been there.
Oh, wait. Canada will be smote (smited, smitten?), too, what with national health care and stuff.
I hear Havana is OK.
128 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 1:07:39am |
re: #127 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Damn. Well, maybe we can be diverted to Montreal. Never been there.
Oh, wait. Canada will be smote (smited, smitten?), too, what with national health care and stuff.
I hear Havana is OK.
You will have to be diverted to Russia. They still have Godly values there.
129 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 1:14:59am |
re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
You will have to be diverted to Russia. They still have Godly values there.
Heck, I can take a Chinese train to the border and walk across. Forget that!
/
130 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 1:17:32am |
June 26th, 2003: Lawrence v Texas: SCOTUS rules that same-sex sexual activity is legal in all 50 states, declaring anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional.
June 26th, 2013: United States v Windsor: SCOTUS declares the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional.
June 26th, 2015: Obergefell v Hodges: SCOTUS rules that SSM is legal in all 50 states, overturning SSM bans.
All on June 26th - and all in the space of a dozen years. Quite amazing, when you think about it, and a nicely uncanny coincidence.
131 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 1:19:32am |
re: #120 Dr Lizardo
So, I wake up here in Europe, and lo and behold, much to my surprise, the North American continent still hasn’t fallen into the fiery, molten pit of Hell.
What’s up with that?
*chuckles to self*
BTW, Doc—thanks to your quotation from the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung a couple of threads ago, I now know the German word for “hillbilly”. (Der) Hinterwäldler: “Backwoodser”. Delightful.
132 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 1:24:49am |
re: #131 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
BTW, Doc—thanks to your quotation from the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung a couple of threads ago, I now know the German word for “hillbilly”. (Der) Hinterwäldler: “Backwoodser”. Delightful.
No problem.
One of my Czech students saw the vid of President Obama’s eulogy yesterday and he commented to me via Skype, “Can we have him when you’re done? He’d be a vast improvement over the obese, alcoholic, chain-smoking imbecile currently residing up in Prague Castle. It’d be nice to have a real President here for a change - we haven’t really had one since Havel died.”
LOLOLOL
133 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 1:30:03am |
re: #131 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
BTW, Doc—thanks to your quotation from the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung a couple of threads ago, I now know the German word for “hillbilly”. (Der) Hinterwäldler: “Backwoodser”. Delightful.
I was once hiking through a region known as the “Hinterwald” in west-central Germany, and recall passing an eerie place with a tumble-down barn and an unkempt manure pile (even manure piles are generally tidy in Germany) , along with a somewhat demented-looking person staring at us from the front stoop.
All that was missing was banjo music…
134 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 1:32:22am |
re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I was once hiking through a region known as the “Hinterwald” in west-central Germany, and recall passing an eerie place with a tumble-down barn and an unkempt manure pile (even manure piles are generally tidy in Germany) , along with a somewhat demented-looking person staring at us from the front stoop.
All that was missing was banjo music…
Probably, concertina music, given the location
135 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 1:33:23am |
re: #132 Dr Lizardo
No problem.
One of my Czech students saw the vid of President Obama’s eulogy yesterday and he commented to me via Skype, “Can we have him when you’re done? He’d be a vast improvement over the obese, alcoholic, chain-smoking imbecile currently residing up in Prague Castle. It’d be nice to have a real President here for a change - we haven’t really had one since Havel died.”
LOLOLOL
I remember Jimmy Carter was nominated for Secretary General of the United Nations—wouldn’t the wingnuts love it if Obama was too? Shit—what if he won?
136 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 1:35:57am |
All the arguments about Constitutional due process and the role of the SCOTUS are just cover for wanting control over lives of gay people.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
So no, I don’t take these sophistic arguments about people just being upset at “the way” gay marriage became legal seriously at all.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
137 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 2:00:04am |
People clearly haven’t thought this shit through at all.
Alabamans voted twice in the last 11 years to retain racial school segregation in their State Con. You’d force gays to beg them? @_JLindner
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
138 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 2:02:34am |
re: #137 goddamnedfrank
People clearly haven’t thought this shit through at all.
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John L @_JLindner
#StatesLose #SoMuchForThe10thAmendment
FYI I support gay marriage but…they shouldn’t have forced the issue, shoulda let each state Vote.
Is this goober aware that 14 > 10?
139 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 2:06:47am |
re: #138 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Is this goober aware that 14 > 10?
AFAIK, no state constitution specifies marriage must be between one man and one woman. The only restrictions regard age of consent.
Or am I hallucinating?
140 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 2:14:29am |
re: #139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
AFAIK, no state constitution specifies marriage must be between one man and one woman. The only restrictions regard age of consent.
Or am I hallucinating?
I don’t know—since DOMA, some state constitutions might have been amended to say that. I’m sure they didn’t before, not out of any motive to be even-handed, but just because it never occurred to them.
I was kind of surprised by the age of consent thing. I remember looking at the chart in some almanac back when it was relevant to me (so…1969? 70?) and there were a few backwaters like New York and Alaska where it was 18, in the former Confederacy it was pretty uniformly 12, and in Delaware it was 7 (!), but in most states, including mine, it was 16. I was taken aback recently to learn that it had become 18 everywhere—when did that happen?
ETA: Not that I personally have anything to worry about, just for clarity.
141 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 2:18:30am |
Well, if there is indeed a mass wingnut exodus out of the US, realistically, the only place they can really go is Russia.
I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if some of them think about Israel - that is to say, the Israel that exists in their imaginations, as opposed to the real Israel that is extraordinarily progressive regarding LGBT rights.
142 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 2:20:10am |
re: #141 Dr Lizardo
Well, if there is indeed a mass wingnut exodus out of the US, realistically, the only place they can really go is Russia.
I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if some of them think about Israel - that is to say, the Israel that exist in their imaginations, as opposed to the real Israel that is extraordinarily progressive regarding LGBT rights.
A lot of them are saying they’re going to move to Canada (LOL), but they’d get an even ruder shock if they moved to Israel.
143 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 2:22:31am |
re: #142 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
A lot of them are saying they’re going to move to Canada (LOL), but they’d get an even ruder shock if they moved to Israel.
Yeah, you bet they would. I’d daresay they’d be genuinely shocked - and likely be on the next plane out of Tel Aviv once they found out.
144 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 2:23:30am |
FYI Jesus had a dysfunctional love / hate relationship with a fig tree. Not sure he’s the go to guy for these anti gay marriage arguments.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
Just sayin’.
145 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 2:41:53am |
Cruz: “some of the darkest 24 hours in our nation's history.” Hannity: “I couldn't have said it more eloquently.” https://t.co/teysIKPVvp
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) June 26, 2015
Fucked in the head.
146 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 2:46:23am |
re: #145 goddamnedfrank
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Fucked in the head.
Pardon my french, but more than fucked. At least fucked more than once.
Bukakke’d in the head?
Help me out guys…
147 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 2:51:59am |
re: #146 Teukka
Marriage equality and Obamacare are right up there with 9/11 and Pear Harbor apparently.
Ted Cruz isn’t the first person to jump on this retarded idea either.
From a moral standpoint, 6/26 is now our 9/11.
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) June 26, 2015
Bears flew planes into Bryan’s penis or something.
148 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 2:58:44am |
I can’t help but wonder how the wingnuts would react if Israel approved SSM? To be honest, I don’t see it happening right away - the current composition of the Knesset seems to preclude that - but polls have shown that a majority of Israelis do approve of SSM, which is keeping in line with their progressive stance towards LGBT rights.
I think the wingnuts would absolutely lose their damned minds (if it’s possible for them to lose that even more than they already have), because if Israel did indeed allow SSM, it would be certainly be international headline news.
149 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 3:09:58am |
re: #148 Dr Lizardo
I can’t help but wonder how the wingnuts would react if Israel approved SSM? To be honest, I don’t see it happening right away - the current composition of the Knesset seems to preclude that - but polls have shown that a majority of Israelis do approve of SSM, which is keeping in line with their progressive stance towards LGBT rights.
I think the wingnuts would absolutely lose their damned minds (if it’s possible for them to lose that even more than they already have), because if Israel did indeed allow SSM, it would be certainly be international headline news.
It does, in a way. Israel already officially records same sex marriage performed abroad and gives same sex couples all the same rights. Same sex marriage inside Israel faces the same barrier preventing atheists and most interfaith couples from getting married there, they have no secular marriage, but honor secular marriages performed abroad. Otherwise, to get married inside Israel requires involving a religious authority, which results in very strict rules about who a Cohen may marry for instance.
150 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 3:19:24am |
re: #149 goddamnedfrank
It does, in a way. Israel already officially records same sex marriage performed abroad and gives same sex couples all the same rights. Same sex marriage inside Israel faces the same barrier preventing atheists and most interfaith couples from getting married there, they have no secular marriage, but honor secular marriages performed abroad. Otherwise, to get married inside Israel requires involving a religious authority, which results in very strict rules about who a Cohen may marry for instance.
Heh…..that alone would no doubt come as quite shocking to the RWNJ’s, who seem to think that Israel today is the same as it was in the 2nd Century B.C. or something.
I remember reading once, years ago, a commenter on FR who was utterly shocked that LGBT Israelis can openly serve in the military. He (or she) couldn’t believe it and was left wondering why God hadn’t poured down His wrath on Israel yet.
151 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 3:32:25am |
So a wingnut brought this to my attention…
Why the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage could lead to civil war
Yep, massive butthurt advisory in effect. Verified.
152 | Shiplord Kirel Jun 27, 2015 3:34:01am |
Oh hell.
My Nazarene minister of a brother, who is normally contemptuous of fundies and their craziness, appears to have gotten a dose of the kool-aid after all and is now saying that he will refuse to perform same-sex weddings even if he is threatened with arrest.
I reminded him that there are still preachers who refuse to perform interracial weddings and they are not arrested (though they are mocked and reviled when they come to light). He immediately demanded to know if I was equating his stance with racial bigotry. I just said, “The shoe fits, in that both you and a racist bigot are refusing to perform a legal, civil ceremony for religious reasons.” It is not illegal to be a racist, and it is not, and will not be, illegal to be a homophobe. He can marry, or not marry, whomever he chooses, but I am embarrassed and disappointed that he would pursue fake martyr cookies over this choice.
153 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 3:46:40am |
Closing the week out in style:
BREAKING: Activists in South Carolina are in process of taking down the confederate battle flag. #keepitdown pic.twitter.com/MBIyWC8PUp
— Ferguson Action (@fergusonaction) June 27, 2015
154 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 3:47:36am |
The flag is gone. All props to local organizers for this amazing action. #keepitdown pic.twitter.com/MaZbJWlVXP
— Ferguson Action (@fergusonaction) June 27, 2015
155 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 3:48:41am |
I just remembered - where’s the wave of fundie Christian divorces in the wake of the Obergefell v Hodges decision? Where’s the mass self-immolations of wingnut preachers? Are the wingnuts going to do disappoint me and not go all Masada, as they promised they would? Didn’t Glenn Beck say he had 10,000 preachers ready to die?
Fucking laughable cowards, each and every one. Pussies. They talk so big, yet when all is said and done, they’re nothing more than whiny, cringing lickspittles.
For all their tough, badass talk, they’d be the first ones to recite the Shahada if they were actually confronted with a Da’esh headchopper. That would certainly be quite the sight, wouldn’t it - them trying to say, “lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muhammadur rasūlu-llāh” while simultaneously blubbering, “Please don’t kill me!” and soiling themselves.
156 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 3:49:29am |
Brittany Newsome, an activist just scaled the pole in #SC & took down the #Confederate flag let's #keepitdown pic.twitter.com/GypFn4EAkJ
— Rashad Robinson (@rashadrobinson) June 27, 2015
157 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 3:49:36am |
re: #147 goddamnedfrank
From a moral standpoint, 6/26 is now our 9/11.
From a moral standpoint, Bryan Fischer is a steaming pile of dog turds…
158 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 3:50:03am |
re: #153 goddamnedfrank
Closing the week out in style:
Oh, brace for incoming wingnut howls of impotent rage.
159 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 3:59:45am |
160 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 4:02:19am |
re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
How about a compromise?
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Not bad, but I think this would be better.
161 | Bubblehead II Jun 27, 2015 4:06:08am |
My Governor is a dick.
Otter calls marriage ruling ‘truly disappointing’
BOISE — Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter responded Friday morning to the Supreme Court’s 5-4 ruling legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states, calling the decision “truly disappointing.”
.@ButchOtter So the ruling on same SSM “disappointing” Should have left it up 2 the States. Do U feel the same about inter-racial marriage?
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) June 27, 2015
Not really expecting a response.
L8R. Time to go to work.
162 | ozharas Jun 27, 2015 4:13:50am |
re: #156 goddamnedfrank
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surprised it’s taken this long for someone to just take action and take it down already.
163 | Dave In Austin Jun 27, 2015 4:28:38am |
re: #160 Dr Lizardo
Not bad, but I think this would be better.
Morning all.
Coffees on, the boat is hooked up. I really just stopped by to check the weather….
I saw this and was immediately struck by the tune from Deliverance..
That has now pushed out the Dopapod tune that’s been running there for the last week.
167 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 4:33:55am |
re: #149 goddamnedfrank
It does, in a way. Israel already officially records same sex marriage performed abroad and gives same sex couples all the same rights. Same sex marriage inside Israel faces the same barrier preventing atheists and most interfaith couples from getting married there, they have no secular marriage, but honor secular marriages performed abroad. Otherwise, to get married inside Israel requires involving a religious authority, which results in very strict rules about who a Cohen may marry for instance.
An interesting mixture of regressive and progressive policies.
And yes, Israel should get rid of the former.
168 | Dave In Austin Jun 27, 2015 4:35:33am |
re: #165 Nyet
What Dopapod tune?
Picture in Picture…
Great tune but quite sticky….. Here’s a live ver.
169 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 4:43:45am |
re: #161 Bubblehead II
My Governor is a dick.
Otter calls marriage ruling ‘truly disappointing’
BOISE — Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter responded Friday morning to the Supreme Court’s 5-4 ruling legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states, calling the decision “truly disappointing.”
[Embedded content]
Not really expecting a response.
L8R. Time to go to work.
I know we had a Senator called “Scoop” for many years…but Governor “Butch”? Seriously?
170 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 4:50:49am |
Well, fuck.
BREAKING: SC has ordered the flag be put back up. Just in time for the white supremacist rally at 11AM today. pic.twitter.com/h0pBq15uWb
— Ferguson Action (@fergusonaction) June 27, 2015
Bree wanted to ensure that white racists had no flag to worship at their rally today. The State of SC disagreed. pic.twitter.com/YtqyjcvJhN
— Ferguson Action (@fergusonaction) June 27, 2015
“A” for effort tho’.
171 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 4:53:17am |
re: #161 Bubblehead II
In the end, the WSA (Wingnut States of America - aka, Jesusland) states will comply with the Obergefell v Hodges decision. They’re just trying to figure out a way to comply while making it look like they’re not - they gotta be able to hustle the rubes, after all. They’ll make noises like ‘freedom’ and ‘religious liberty’; they’ll bitterly complain about ‘having Big Gay shoved down their throats’ (ahem!) and some of them will probably even come up with meaningless legislation to pander to the wingnuts, loons like Alabama’s Roy Moore notwithstanding - he’ll go down fighting, but when all is said and done, it’s an exercise in futility.
And deep down, they know this.
172 | Dave In Austin Jun 27, 2015 4:56:15am |
Next time, the pulleys come down with the flag.
173 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 4:57:10am |
A black woman just forced South Carolina to put the Confederate flag back up in time for a pro-flag hate rally this morning. Optics matter.
— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) June 27, 2015
175 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 5:07:19am |
re: #174 Nyet
What black woman? (Really don’t know.)
Brittany “Bree” Newsome, the activist who climbed the pole in SC and took the Confederate Flag down this morning.
176 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 5:08:25am |
re: #175 goddamnedfrank
Oh, I read this tweet in the opposite sense then :D
179 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 5:24:46am |
re: #61 b_sharp
You Americans are some weird ass motherfuckers. Same sex marriage and universal healthcare sure didn’t take that much effort up here and when we got it we didn’t celebrate anywhere near as much.
It’s like you fight to not poke yourselves in the eye with a stick and then weep tears of joy when you finally drop the stick.
Good on ya.
You sure the fuck aren’t boring.
It’s one of the things I like the best about living in Canada. We are really fucking boring.
Excitement is a highly overrated emotion in my opinion.
180 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 5:24:55am |
181 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 5:26:29am |
Because for decades after it passed the 14th Amendment clearly wasn’t applied to women. If authorial intent ruled then it still wouldn’t.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
182 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 5:31:20am |
re: #65 The Ghost of a Bikini Shank
I am recalling an old and probably almost unknown SF novel from the 60s; Watchers of the Dark.
In it the powerful of the galaxy had made marriage pretty much about power. People got married, usually to other species, for political and economic reasons. For offspring they had mates of the same species.
Nobody saw any problem with that.
183 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 5:33:02am |
re: #68 bill d
Canada sounds like a great place for the future wingnut homeland.
If they hate America as currently constituted Canada will reduce them to catatonia.
184 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 5:34:04am |
re: #182 Romantic Heretic
I am recalling an old and probably almost unknown SF novel from the 60s; Watchers of the Dark.
In it the powerful of the galaxy had made marriage pretty much about power. People got married, usually to other species, for political and economic reasons. For offspring they had mates of the same species.
Nobody saw any problem with that.
Oh man, I was a huge Biggle fan back then. I don’t know why he seems to have fallen from favor since—in those days, of the very slim pickings of Science Fiction in the library, probably half the titles were his.
185 | goddamnedfrank Jun 27, 2015 5:40:25am |
It took SCOTUS 99 years to realize the 14th Amendment protected interracial couples. So please, tell me again how authorial intent matters?
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) June 27, 2015
187 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 5:41:36am |
From the Patriotism Files:
My allegiance to this country is gone
Posted on 06/27/2015 1:58:58 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
My allegiance to this country is gone, and I used to be so highly patriotic. Its a very sad day. Let the chinese or russians have it, my allegiance is to God, I am done with trying to change this liberal godless cancer of a country.
————-
God has set the date for the destruction for the harlot nation. I pray for my children and grandchildren many times a day. It will be terrible for the young because no one bothered to stop this evil, which shall be punished as it always is.
3 posted on 6/27/2015, 5:49:18 AM by txrefugee
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188 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 5:44:44am |
re: #118 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Oh, goody! Radical Anxiety Termination is here!
Oh great. We’re playing God, again.
189 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 5:46:27am |
Shock of your life
Take 1 minute to comprehend what you read below.During our lifetimes, all Presidents have issued Executive Orders. For various reasons, some have issued more than others. These things will directly affect us all, in years to come.
Question is: Do YOU care enough to send this, ‘shocking info,’ to people you love
Ike - 2 in 8 year
Kennedy - 4 in 3 year
LBJ - 4 in 5 years
Nixon - 1 in 6 years
Ford - 3 in 2 years
Carter - 3 in 4 years
Reagan - 5 in 8 years
Bush - 3 in 4 years
Clinton - 15 in 8 years
George W. Bush - 62 in 8 years
Obama - 923 in 3 1/2 years! More than 1000+ and counting Executive Orders in 6 years…
Unless I am misunderstanding something…
Administration of Barack Obama (2009-Present)
213 Total Executive orders Issued
Administration of George W. Bush (2001-2009)
291 Total Executive orders Issued
Administration of William J. Clinton (1993-2001)
364 Total Executive Orders Issued
Administration of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
381 Total Executive Orders Issued
192 | Decatur Deb Jun 27, 2015 5:53:49am |
re: #191 Nyet
Snopes of course:
There is a core set of EOs that basically tell fed Executive Branch employees how to respond to legislation, run their agencies, or hang the toilet paper in the men’s room. A number of them become technologically or legally obsolete in each administration and have to be rescinded (by EO) or renewed. That’s where most of each president’s new crop of signings comes from. As a result, the number of EOs tends to become cumulative.
193 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 6:28:35am |
re: #189 Nyet
Unless I am misunderstanding something…
You’re not misunderstanding anything. The people who post the fake are engaging in serious confirmation bias.
194 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 6:31:46am |
Domestic shadow that isn't going away pic.twitter.com/5Ukh3XylQZ
— Calestous Juma (@calestous) June 27, 2015
195 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 6:32:27am |
re: #173 goddamnedfrank
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You have the right to remain silent, but that was really fucking awesome.
196 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 6:35:19am |
So go rainbow. But same-sex marriage has been legal in Canada for ten years and queer and Two-Spirit youth still need vocal support.
— Melody McKiver (@m_melody) June 27, 2015
HUSTLE HARD FOR TWO-SPIRIT AND QUEER INDIGENOUS YOUTH. Because we've lost too many before they could even consider marriage.
— Melody McKiver (@m_melody) June 27, 2015
197 | Whack-A-Mole Jun 27, 2015 6:37:11am |
I am so sick of the hypocrisy and bullshit of the right.
In regards to SSM, they claim that states should be free to decide for them selves yet when states like California deciding to place limits on guns it is tyranny, as if the right to own a gun is somehow more important and more fundamental a right than the freedom to live your life and love who you will (you know, that whole life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness thing?)
And Ted Cruz’s bullshit about putting USSC Justices up for election? Sure, but we’ll rig the fucking game by denying the right to vote to the undesirables and the people who won’t vote like we want. And if that doesn’t work, we’ll move the goalposts some more.
They love and revere the Constitution, treating it like Holy Writ, but are willing to throw it away the first time it doesn’t read their way and enthusiastically debase everything it stands for. (Actually, now that I think about it, that’s pretty much exactly the same way they treat their Holy Bible so it shouldn’t be a surprise, should it?)
They respect and honor the troops for their service while arming and preparing to kill them in their action-movie inspired, delayed-adolescence, second American Revolution fantasies.
They’re proud patriots, yet celebrate a traitorous rebellion against the country,
It’s bullshit, all of it, and I’m sick to death of it. They need to be called out on it, loudly, publicly, and often.
198 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 6:39:30am |
The take the writers of the Constiution and amendments strictly by what they “believed” crowd is so stupid and dishonest. Kennedy and the other four correctly realize that the principles of the 14th make SSM Constituional and furthermore have read Loving. Ironically, Roberts and the three dissenters are despite their claims otherwise much more influenced by their own prejudices than the majority was.
199 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 6:42:52am |
Putting up Supreme Court judges for election is so stupid. He cries about how judges are too “partisan” now, and again I point out that a Reagan appointee wrote the majority, imagine now. Judges being appointed for life has worked. What Ted is proposing is simply because he does not like the rulings. At least there was some precedent to expand the court when FDR wanted to.
200 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 6:43:08am |
re: #197 Whack-A-Mole
In regards to SSM, they claim that states should be free to decide for them selves yet when states like California deciding to place limits on guns it is tyranny, as if the right to own a gun is somehow more important and more fundamental a right than the freedom to live your life and love who you will (you know, that whole life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness thing?)
Well, to much of the religious right, indeed the “right to bear arms” is an inalienable right of being a citizen of the US, while “marriage” is a sacrament practiced within the boundaries of a church.
Really, that is their belief system.
201 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 6:46:47am |
The people trolling and saying “While I support SSM, it should be up for a vote.” Uh no.
202 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 6:48:51am |
The Symbols. #BreeNewsome pic.twitter.com/pNQtXt6UXq
— Hal Dockins (@HalDockins) June 27, 2015
203 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 6:49:26am |
re: #201 HappyWarrior
The people trolling and saying “While I support SSM, it should be up for a vote.” Uh no.
It was. It won, 5-4
204 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 6:51:13am |
There is no reason why a gay couple shouldn’t be able to enjoy the same rights as a straight one. Now if your church wants to deny them a ceremony fine, they’re not or have ever been forced to but the state cannot. The Bible which contradicts itself on this issue anyhow is not our law.
205 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 6:51:22am |
re: #200 freetoken
Well, to much of the religious right, indeed the “right to bear arms” is an inalienable right of being a citizen of the US, while “marriage” is a sacrament practiced within the boundaries of a church.
Really, that is their belief system.
I can’t help but wonder - now that SSM is legal throughout the US, and as America continues on its way, its economy recovering (though with the usual boom-and-bust cycles) and as life goes on as normal, will the wingnuts fanaticism be broken at last? After all, as I type this, America has not fallen into the core of the Earth, a comet hasn’t hit NYC, San Francisco is still there and California has yet to fall into the Pacific Ocean.
When the wingnuts’ much-anticipated and fervently hoped-for “Great Judgement” fails to come to pass, what are they going to do? I know the human capacity for rationalization is practically infinite, but sooner or later, it’s going to have to occur to them that their apocalyptic fantasies are just that - fantasies.
Then what?
206 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 6:51:38am |
207 | Dave In Austin Jun 27, 2015 6:52:01am |
Colbert: 'Hard To Believe Gays Achieved Personhood Just 5 Years After Corporations Did' https://t.co/g1el47aioM via @sharethis
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) June 27, 2015
208 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 6:52:03am |
209 | Whack-A-Mole Jun 27, 2015 6:54:47am |
re: #205 Dr Lizardo
I can’t help but wonder - now that SSM is legal throughout the US, and as America continues on its way, its economy recovering (though with the usual boom-and-bust cycles) and as life goes on as normal, will the wingnuts fanaticism be broken at last?
No, at least I don’t believe it will end. Did the violence and killing and brutality towards African-Americans stop after they lost the Civil War? After integration and the CRM? No, they simply moved on to a guerrilla campaign of terror. And I really do worry that that will be repeated in the coming years.
210 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 6:56:38am |
@RickSantorum Ricky…are you trying to raise money off the poor bastards who still think marriage equality is bad? You are, aren't you?
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 27, 2015
212 | WhatEVs Jun 27, 2015 7:00:25am |
re: #198 HappyWarrior
The take the writers of the Constiution and amendments strictly by what they “believed” crowd is so stupid and dishonest. Kennedy and the other four correctly realize that the principles of the 14th make SSM Constituional and furthermore have read Loving. Ironically, Roberts and the three dissenters are despite their claims otherwise much more influenced by their own prejudices than the majority was.
Prejudice and religion. Not prejudice alone.
213 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 7:02:18am |
re: #205 Dr Lizardo
Checking the usual religious right internet outposts, pretty much everything is as you’d expect.
The ones with large vocabularies are writing long dissertations trying to defend their position that this is a work of Satan or something to that effect… all very weird, but that just goes to show that the human brain can build a library of sounds (i.e. words) without really having to be logical.
Most of the religious right though is just frothing incoherently.
This is not new.
Abortion was the same way after Roe v. Wade and that battle continues to this day.
We still have politicians today fighting evolution (and other modern science) on religious grounds.
Do not ever underestimate the need humans have for religious thinking. It is our creation, a way to deal with our individual (and universal) existential crisis.
The theistic religion of the Near East ( in its three most common evolutions: Judaism/Christianity/Islam) very much has wound into its DNA fears of sex and the need to control mating and childbearing. In my mind this goes along quite well with the individual existential dilemma, as an individual may be thought of as living on in their offspring.
There is a deep and abiding connection between sex and death.
The various social machinations we have today (such as USSC decisions) are pretty short term in the big picture of human evolution and human society (which is older than 5000 years, contra Santorum.)
214 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 7:03:44am |
And today, I wept yet again. #LoveWins pic.twitter.com/OMkd5f0wMF
— Jesus H. Christ (@IamJesusHChrist) June 27, 2015
215 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:04:26am |
re: #212 WhatEVs
Prejudice and religion. Not prejudice alone.
Prejudice influenced by religion, when I said prejudice, I meant influence from non legal sources.
216 | Drive By Commenter Jun 27, 2015 7:06:54am |
Rick Santorum And One Man One Woman As Per Bible
Just go away Grifting Rick. Go away.
217 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:09:28am |
re: #216 Drive By Commenter
Rick Santorum And One Man One Woman As Per Bible
Just go away Grifting Rick. Go away.
Okay Rick but the Bible isn’t our law. The bible forbids a lot of things which you violate all the time without realizing it too. Here’s a tip, shut up about gay people and actually talk about issues or are you incapable of being but a homophobic troll.
218 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 7:09:46am |
In some good news, it seems Da’esh has been cleared out of Kobane by Kurdish forces.
“Kobani has been completely cleared of Daesh and Kurdish forces are now combing the town looking for fighters who may have gone into hiding,” activist Mustafa Bali, using the Arabic acronym for the IS, told The Associated Press by telephone from Kobani.
The official SANA news agency also said Kobani had been cleared of IS fighters and that forces were searching for any remaining militants.
Bali and the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said fighting continued Saturday between the Kurdish forces and IS fighters in areas to the south and west of the town on the Turkish border. They did not have details.
While ISIS may be able to inspire fellow-travelers to individual acts of terrorism, as we saw yesterday, they seem to be facing increasing difficulties as a would-be nation state. Hopefully (insha’Allah) it won’t be much longer before their “caliphate” collapses entirely*.
*=yes, that’s likely gonna create a whole new series of problems as some of the Da’esh rats flee the sinking ship and attempt to return to their respective countries of origin.
219 | Viscous Obama Jun 27, 2015 7:12:56am |
re: #147 goddamnedfrank
Marriage equality and Obamacare are right up there with 9/11 and Pear Harbor apparently.
Ted Cruz isn’t the first person to jump on this retarded idea either.
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Bears flew planes into Bryan’s penis or something.
220 | Drive By Commenter Jun 27, 2015 7:13:48am |
re: #217 HappyWarrior
Rick is much, much more than a homophobic troll. Much more.
221 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:14:19am |
re: #219 Viscous Obama
Was happy to see a SNL cast member who lost his father on 9/11 call out that disgusting piece of shit.
222 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:15:17am |
re: #220 Drive By Commenter
Rick is much, much more than a homophobic troll. Much more.
Yes a homophobic troll who hates education too and tries to think he knows more science than a masters of chemistry.
223 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 7:17:12am |
re: #217 HappyWarrior
Okay Rick but the Bible isn’t our law. The bible forbids a lot of things which you violate all the time without realizing it too. Here’s a tip, shut up about gay people and actually talk about issues or are you incapable of being but a homophobic troll.
The Bible isn’t our law—the Constitution is. IANAL—and also, IANASCJ—but since the people who are are too stupid to do it, it’s pretty easy to determine what the Constitution says about marriage being “One Man One Woman As Per Bible”.
I Command-F’ed the whole fucker and found that the word “marriage” does not appear. (Neither does the word “woman” for that matter.) Can haz lifetime sinecure naow?
224 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 7:17:45am |
Well. At least one Fox host is willing to accept reality.
Megyn Kelly slams Huckabee for rejecting SCOTUS marriage ruling: ‘Like it or not, they get the final say’ http://t.co/ybIj48wERQ
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 27, 2015
225 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 7:20:29am |
re: #224 darthstar
Well. At least one Fox host is willing to accept reality.
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She better watch it - FNC viewers ain’t gonna like that one bit.
HOW DARE SHE ALLOW REALITY TO INTRUDE INTO OUR BUBBLE AND DENY US OUR MARTYR COOKIES!!
226 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 7:21:59am |
Okay, @GOP, so you lost on health care and gay marriage. You can still campaign on giving guns to white psychos in 2016. And xenophobia.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 27, 2015
227 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 7:24:41am |
re: #202 darthstar
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I am really surprised she didn’t fall down from there riddled with bullets.
228 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 7:26:26am |
re: #227 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I am really surprised she didn’t fall down from there riddled with bullets.
The police probably saw the cameras in time.
229 | Lidane Jun 27, 2015 7:28:16am |
The sun’s out. Birds are singing. I can hear traffic nearby, meaning that people are up and about, going to work, or to enjoy time with friends or family. Maybe they’re going to get breakfast then go to the lake, who knows?
No floods. No plagues of locusts and cicadas. No fires, or volcanic eruptions. No mass smiting from the Heavens. No major earthquakes. It’s almost as if the universe didn’t collapse in on itself when same-sex marriage became legal.
230 | Sionainn Jun 27, 2015 7:29:04am |
re: #139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
AFAIK, no state constitution specifies marriage must be between one man and one woman. The only restrictions regard age of consent.
Or am I hallucinating?
Nevada’s Constitution was amended to state marriage was between one man and one woman. That was deemed unconstitutional within the past year.
231 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 7:31:23am |
Oh GOD, it burns… it BUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNNSSSSS!!! #LoveWins (again.) @tedcruz pic.twitter.com/iYmksIkHhP
— Pin Head (@TomAdelsbach) June 27, 2015
232 | Drive By Commenter Jun 27, 2015 7:31:55am |
I have family that I care for who are gay. My one brother in law is happily married and him and his partner were married in Hawaii years ago. Now they are legal nationwide. My one cousin was just married to her partner a year ago and I just went to the anniversary party two weeks a go. They love and care for one another. I let them all know how happy I was for them, and how this week lent me hope that we can be better and actually become more humane and caring. I just want the pages of history to completely expose the evil behind the charlatans who wrap themselves in stars and stripes and hold a book in their hands and attempt to not only ruin lives, but destroy them. This fight is far from over but I am hopeful once again. It never ends. That’s why you never stop fighting. Never. Now there is only marriage. Me and my wife have been married 37 years and she is my everything. I hope that others can find that. Love is love.
233 | Lidane Jun 27, 2015 7:35:27am |
RWNJ legal scholars all over teh internets have seized on this bit of fail as their latest talking point:
Teh Ghey being able to get married in all 50 states means my CCW should be applicable in all 50 states because “equal protection under teh law” and because a marriage license in one state applies to all of them.
What. The. Fuck.
234 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 7:38:27am |
re: #233 Lidane
RWNJ legal scholars all over teh internets have seized on this bit of fail as their latest talking point:
Teh Ghey being able to get married in all 50 states means my CCW should be applicable in all 50 states because “equal protection under teh law” and because a marriage license in one state applies to all of them.
What. The. Fuck.
The Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms, it does not guarantee the right to marry!!!
/
235 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 7:41:13am |
236 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 7:44:45am |
Another thing I’ve been seeing making the rounds in places which wingnuts frequent is the “Persecution is already going on” schtik, often citing how a pastor in Germany got jailed for preaching against homosexuality.
Only, upon closer scrutiny, when one looks more closely at the case, he got convicted of holocaust denial. You see, in Germany it is illegal to deny the holocaust, even individual facets of it, including the gay victims.
Just a heads up for y’all.
237 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:45:00am |
re: #233 Lidane
RWNJ legal scholars all over teh internets have seized on this bit of fail as their latest talking point:
Teh Ghey being able to get married in all 50 states means my CCW should be applicable in all 50 states because “equal protection under teh law” and because a marriage license in one state applies to all of them.
What. The. Fuck.
Surprised they’re not begging to be married to their guns at this point. They certainly care more about guns than other people.
238 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:46:00am |
re: #236 Teukka
Another thing I’ve been seeing making the rounds in places which wingnuts frequent is the “Persecution is already going on” schtik, often citing how a pastor in Germany got jailed for preaching against homosexuality.
Only, upon closer scrutiny, when one looks more closely at the case, he got convicted of holocaust denial. You see, in Germany it is illegal to deny the holocaust, even individual facets of it, including the gay victims.
Just a heads up for y’all.
Our idiots believe not only were there no gay holocaust victims but that gays were behind it.
239 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 7:47:40am |
re: #238 HappyWarrior
Our idiots believe not only were there no gay holocaust victims but that gays were behind it.
Yep. And I’d like to give a hearty “Fuck You” to Scott Lively for promulgating that bullshit.
240 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 7:48:00am |
re: #238 HappyWarrior
Our idiots believe not only were there no gay holocaust victims but that gays were behind it.
Oh yeah, the “Pink Swastika!” Schpiel.
*smh*
241 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:49:05am |
It’s cool to see on Facebook friends from all walks of life and family too express their support for yesterday’s historic moment.
242 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 7:49:17am |
Woke up, looked around outside my window. Got in my car, went downtown to the Kroger in The Brewery District. Drove back home. Turned on my computer. Logged in to LGF.
Guess what?
We’re still here. Everything seems the same.
I guess God, Mother Nature, and everything in the world is just the same as yesterday.
Fabulous!
243 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:49:22am |
244 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 7:51:18am |
I didn’t know this. Shark stays down - no ping.
.@sugarpuff427 SPOT tag on dorsal fin needs to be dry for 90 sec to receive a location ping. @Shark_Katharine pic.twitter.com/YPaoZq5byr
— OCEARCH (@OCEARCH) June 27, 2015
245 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 7:51:24am |
WaPo called out Roberts and Scalia both for their tantrums using quotes by Nixon and Donald Trump ouch.
246 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 8:06:39am |
247 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 8:07:28am |
re: #246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Well, they warned us:
Ban inter species pet owning./:
248 | darthstar Jun 27, 2015 8:09:26am |
Hey, is that Duck Dynasty asshole .@BobbyJindal's always courting still wearing that Confederate flag headband?
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 27, 2015
Never mind…just looked. Fucker’s been desecrating the American flag, not sporting the Confederate one.
249 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 8:10:52am |
Just thought I’d leave this here…
On a bit more serious note tho, what is it called?
250 | Pawn of the Oppressor Jun 27, 2015 8:18:11am |
re: #151 Teukka
So a wingnut brought this to my attention…
Why the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage could lead to civil war
Yep, massive butthurt advisory in effect. Verified.
Like I said yesterday… BRING IT, YOU CHUBBY, PANTING, SUSPENDER-WEARING GUN-HUMPER BITCHEZ! Let’s do it, let’s have a war over The Gey! Because maybe this time the civilized world will finish the job and turn the South into something to be proud of, not just a run-down, half-empty, low-GDP, poorly-educated bloc of resentful, spastic, occasionally violent welfare states that consistently run a half-century (or more) behind the rest of the country (and the world in general).
I’m sorry, I’ve been across the old Confederacy a few times and I’ve spent the last five years of my career talking to people on the bottom end of the economy there, and the financial and governmental state of almost an entire third of the country is just an absolute stain… If these fuckers want to get off their butts to fight over where people put their genitals in their spare time, instead of the Failed State model of governance that they keep electing into office, then so be it.
“Finish Reconstruction 2016”, not exactly a Presidential slogan but I’m on board.
251 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 8:22:27am |
re: #250 Pawn of the Oppressor
Like I said yesterday… BRING IT, YOU CHUBBY, PANTING, SUSPENDER-WEARING GUN-HUMPER BITCHEZ! Let’s do it, let’s have a war over The Gey! Because maybe this time the civilized world will finish the job and turn the South into something to be proud of, not just a run-down, half-empty, low-GDP, poorly-educated bloc of resentful, spastic, occasionally violent welfare states that consistently run a half-century (or more) behind the rest of the country (and the world in general).
I’m sorry, I’ve been across the old Confederacy a few times and I’ve spent the last five years of my career talking to people on the bottom end of the economy there, and the financial and governmental state of almost an entire third of the country is just an absolute stain… If these fuckers want to get off their butts to fight over where people put their genitals in their spare time, instead of the Failed State model of governance that they keep electing into office, then so be it.
“Finish Reconstruction 2016”, not exactly a Presidential slogan but I’m on board.
And maybe make the bit I posted above the symbol of the movement? *ducks*
252 | electrotek Jun 27, 2015 8:26:06am |
Man arguing with homophobes on Twitter, even those that are considered “millennial” doesn’t get me anywhere no matter what.
@ddmourxo you act like being gay is worse than slaughtering religious minorities and spreading sectarian hatred
— Danial J ?????? ? (@danja84) June 27, 2015
253 | austin_blue Jun 27, 2015 8:26:14am |
Wow. Unbelievably, the sun rose in the east this morning over Texas.
No frogs, locusts, or blood.
Pretty much every families’ first born sons survived.
Huh. Odd. I was told it was the end of the world…
254 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 8:26:41am |
Looking at The Independent, I see London’s Pride Parade is underway:
Today’s gay pride parade is well underway in London, in what is expected to be the biggest event to date.
It is estimated that tens of thousands are taking part in London Pride. The capital city has been decked with rainbow flags and packed with revellers as they celebrate LGBT progress.
The parade left Baxter Street at 1pm and will go past Regent Street, Pall Mall and Trafalgar Square before ending at Whitehall around 4:30pm.
In a sign of solidarity with members of the LGBT community in other countries, flag bearers are carrying more than 200 international flags as they walk the route.
Pride of place is the American flag, following the US Supreme Court’s ruling yesterday that same-sex is a constitutional right which should be afforded to every citizen.
Wingnuts are gonna lose their freakin’ minds today with all the Pride Parades taking place in the US.
WHY ARE TEH GHEYS SHOVING THEIR BIG GHEY DOWN OUR THROATS?!! or something to that effect.
Heh.
255 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 27, 2015 8:27:21am |
re: #253 austin_blue
Wow. Unbelievably, the sun rose in the east this morning over Texas.
No frogs, locusts, or blood.
Pretty much every families’ first born sons survived.
Huh. Odd. I was told it was the end of the world…
we mentioned earlier, God is waiting until July 4th so that his intentions are clear to everyone
256 | Pawn of the Oppressor Jun 27, 2015 8:31:05am |
re: #251 Teukka
It should be a symbol fitting for the Gay Reich and the elite foot-soldiers we’re going to clean out the woods with - Das Twinken-Staffel of the Fruechtes-Wehrmacht. PINK JACK BOOTS ON THE NECKS OF GAWD-FEERIN’ WHITE FOLK! Our objective will be to make everybody wear leather pants!
And also, maybe arrange things so the best gig a young citizen of the South can hope for is better than being a clerk at Dollar General. BUT ZAT COMES AFTER ZE GEY ARMY
257 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 8:31:19am |
In news out of the EU, looks like time’s up for Greece.
258 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 8:32:09am |
re: #139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
AFAIK, no state constitution specifies marriage must be between one man and one woman. The only restrictions regard age of consent.
Or am I hallucinating?
Still catching up on the comments, so don’t know if anyone mentioned it: Kentucky’s Constitution defines marriage as as exclusive union between a man and a woman. It happened in 2004. I remember it being on the ballot.
259 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 8:35:50am |
re: #257 Dr Lizardo
In regard to that, here’s this little snippet.
The doorstepping is over and the answer from finance ministers of Germany, Slovakia and Finland was clear. There will be no bail-out extension after June 30. This means Greece will be forced to default to the IMF on Tuesday and is poised to implement capital controls by Monday morning to stave off a banking collapse.
Greece is hosed for the foreseeable future.
260 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 8:35:55am |
re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth
Still catching up on the comments, so don’t know if anyone mentioned it: Kentucky’s Constitution defines marriage as as exclusive union between a man and a woman. It happened in 2004. I remember it being on the ballot.
So that makes two states, Utah and Kentucky. But the Utah provision was declared unconstitutional. Is the Ky provision still on the books?
261 | Decatur Deb Jun 27, 2015 8:36:08am |
262 | stpaulbear Jun 27, 2015 8:36:32am |
The SCOTUS marriage decision, in haiku.
Scalia’s dissent:
You’re not a poet,
Kennedy. And by the way,
Democracy’s dead.
All of them made me smile.
263 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 8:39:05am |
re: #256 Pawn of the Oppressor
It should be a symbol fitting for the Gay Reich and the elite foot-soldiers we’re going to clean out the woods with - Das Twinken-Staffel of the Fruechtes-Wehrmacht. PINK JACK BOOTS ON THE NECKS OF GAWD-FEERIN’ WHITE FOLK! Our objective will be to make everybody wear leather pants!
And also, maybe arrange things so the best gig a young citizen of the South can hope for is better than being a clerk at Dollar General. BUT ZAT COMES AFTER ZE GEY ARMY
*Die Twink(s)-Staffel
*Früchte-Wehrmacht
/grammarnazi
264 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 8:39:42am |
So, an anti-gay wingnut in a chat rocked in the last 24 hours just dropped this turd as an argument… I sure hope he is just trolling… Gag alert on link!
265 | Ian G. Jun 27, 2015 8:49:05am |
re: #145 goddamnedfrank
Teddy boy is from a state that once saw a city wiped off the face of the earth by a hurricane in a space of about 24 hours with a death toll of anywhere from 8-12 thousand. And Hannity’s employer is based in the same city where the WTC once stood.
Both of these amoebas can go fuck themselves with a cactus covered in habanero sauce.
266 | thedopefishlives Jun 27, 2015 8:52:28am |
Morning Lizardim from the clear, sunny, beautiful wild north country. I’m taking a short break from tweaking my pimpin’ ride to post the following derpularity I found on my Facebook feed - not from a wingnut, believe it or not, but from a military vet who clearly sympathizes with the Confederate cause. I would expect to see lots of hate for the same-sex marriage decision from this particular camp. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous summer day?
267 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 8:52:52am |
re: #265 Ian G.
Teddy boy is from a state that once saw a city wiped off the face of the earth by a hurricane in a space of about 24 hours with a death toll of anywhere from 8-12 thousand. And Hannity’s employer is based in the same city where the WTC once stood.
Both of these amoebas can go fuck themselves with a cactus covered in habanero sauce.
You don’t have to be a Texan or New Yorker to find that statement so ridiculously hyperbolic even for fuckwads like Teddy and Sean.
268 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 8:53:32am |
re: #260 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
So that makes two states, Utah and Kentucky. But the Utah provision was declared unconstitutional. Is the Ky provision still on the books?
Yes, it is; it was the basis for Kentucky’s failed attempt to not recognize out-of-state SSM marriages (Bourke v Beshear, one of the cases that was combined under the umbrella of Obergefell for SCOTUS, for which Beshear hired outside counsel because our AG Conway refused to do so). But right after yesterday’s SCOTUS decision, Gov Beshear ordered that SSM licenses are to be issued. The General Assembly will have to do something about the Constitution, I guess.
269 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 8:53:34am |
re: #253 austin_blue
Wow. Unbelievably, the sun rose in the east this morning over Texas.
No frogs, locusts, or blood.
Pretty much every families’ first born sons survived.
Huh. Odd. I was told it was the end of the world…
Well, you do still have Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott.
///
270 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 8:54:18am |
re: #265 Ian G.
Teddy boy is from a state that once saw a city wiped off the face of the earth by a hurricane in a space of about 24 hours with a death toll of anywhere from 8-12 thousand. And Hannity’s employer is based in the same city where the WTC once stood.
Both of these amoebas can go fuck themselves with a cactus covered in habanero sauce.
Then there was the Texas City Disaster.
271 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 8:54:35am |
re: #266 thedopefishlives
Morning Lizardim from the clear, sunny, beautiful wild north country. I’m taking a short break from tweaking my pimpin’ ride to post the following derpularity I found on my Facebook feed - not from a wingnut, believe it or not, but from a military vet who clearly sympathizes with the Confederate cause. I would expect to see lots of hate for the same-sex marriage decision from this particular camp. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous summer day?
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He’s fine to love his CSA ancestors but the flag does not belong on a state capital building just like the Taliban’s flag does not.
272 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 8:56:16am |
re: #264 Teukka
So, an anti-gay wingnut in a chat rocked in the last 24 hours just dropped this turn as an argument… I sure hope he is just trolling… Gag alert on link!
I just reported that to the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz. Holocaust Denial is a crime in Germany.
273 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 8:56:29am |
I’m good though. Feel a little bittersweet hearing about an old high school acquaintance passed away. We weren’t friends but I had classes with him and he seemed like a nice and intelligent kid. Only 27 or 28 years old. And we bury another.
274 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 27, 2015 8:56:35am |
re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yes, it is; it was the basis for Kentucky’s failed attempt to not recognize out-of-state SSM marriages (Bourke v Beshear, one of the cases that was combined under the umbrella of Obergefell for SCOTUS, for which Beshear hired outside counsel because our AG Conway refused to do so). But right after yesterday’s SCOTUS decision, Gov Beshear ordered that SSM licenses are to be issued. The General Assembly will have to do something about the Constitution, I guess.
Thanks for the update.
275 | Higgs Boson's Mate Jun 27, 2015 8:57:14am |
Am I misunderstanding something? I didn’t think that anyone has to get married, gay or otherwise. I didn’t think that clergy have to perform gay marriages. Yet it seems that some of the conservatives have already determined that this imposition is worth civil war or rewriting the Constitution. Just wondering why they didn’t consider peaceful protest or civil disobedience. Or, you know, voting.
276 | electrotek Jun 27, 2015 8:58:27am |
re: #275 Higgs Boson’s Mate
Am I misunderstanding something? I didn’t think that anyone has to get married, gay or otherwise. I didn’t think that clergy have to perform gay marriages. Yet it seems that some of the conservatives have already determined that this imposition is worth civil war or rewriting the Constitution. Just wondering why they didn’t consider peaceful protest or civil disobedience. Or, you know, voting.
Because voting is haraam according to the Christian Anjem Choudary’s of America of course.
277 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 8:58:41am |
re: #272 Dr Lizardo
I just reported that to the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz. Holocaust Denial is a crime in Germany.
Apparently, she may already be under investigation by the Verfassungsschutz, she’s meddling in the case of a 94-year old former KZ clerk.
278 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 9:01:43am |
Alabama Probate Judges: Marriage Equality Only For The Named Plaintiffs; 14 Day Stay Issued http://t.co/YUVPS02sg6 pic.twitter.com/3ZDdLix1Xh
— Larry Cooper (@coopah) June 27, 2015
279 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 9:02:45am |
re: #277 Teukka
Apparently, she may already be under investigation by the Verfassungsschutz, she’s meddling in the case of a 94-year old former KZ clerk.
Well, then here’s another thing for BfV to investigate. I have no patience for that kind of BS.
280 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 9:03:35am |
281 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 9:03:51am |
re: #272 Dr Lizardo
This shithead throws out all the denier chestnuts, starting with the most idiotic “they changed the 4 million plaque at Auschwitz” gambit (except the plaque never said that most of the 4 million were Jews). She even drags out Fritjof Meyer’s stale pseudo-scholarship. Little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but when hate is added to the mix…
282 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 9:05:17am |
7:45 No valid confession can be extracted by torture
7:49 and no one claimed
7:52 that in this concentration camp there was ever a gas chamber in which people were gassed
8:01 except for [former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf] Höss, who was tortured so terribly
8:06 that he afterwards said, «I would have signed anything.»
*eyeroll*
If only stupidity were painful.
283 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 9:08:15am |
re: #282 Nyet
*eyeroll*
If only stupidity were painful.
It’s just sick.
Well, in her case, stupidity might be at the very least quite uncomfortable if the BfV starts looking into her.
284 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 9:08:34am |
The City Of Minneapolis Says Happy Pride! The I-35W bridge will be lit like this Friday and Saturday night. pic.twitter.com/7EVH3QHUZ9
— madison (@mchamric) June 27, 2015
285 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 9:10:34am |
286 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 9:10:41am |
Utter self delusion leads to incoherent statement:
“If you read your Bible, sir, then you know the logic. The Bible says a man laying with a man or a woman laying with a woman is an abomination to God,” [judge] Hamic said. “I am not mixing religion with government, but that’s my feelings on it.”
Hamic quotes the Bible to defend his decision (to stop marrying people), then claims he’s not mixing religion with government.
These people are seriously deluded by their own lies.
287 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 9:10:42am |
Odd day to have a “2nd place in the civil war” rally pic.twitter.com/CGDZzvWwuG
— Desus Nice (@desusnice) June 27, 2015
288 | Higgs Boson's Mate Jun 27, 2015 9:12:16am |
re: #280 Dr Lizardo
Alabama. My shocked face, my surprise, etc.
*spit*
The bigots and the fundies, goaded on by the apex grifters, are going to be fighting clownish and futile rear-guard actions like this one for years. I’m not getting upset about them.
289 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 9:16:30am |
re: #282 Nyet
*eyeroll*
If only stupidity were painful.
Do people like this deny historical facts just for their own peace of mind to cover over humans being capable of such heinous acts or to hide their own evil inner feelings?
I have never understood the reasons. It’s like going out into a torrential rainstorm, getting carried away in a flash flood but still crying ‘it is not raining!”
290 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 9:16:39am |
291 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 9:19:14am |
re: #289 ObserverArt
I’d say the mechanism of the Holocaust denial is the same as that of evolution and global warming denial. The reasons are superficially different, but both the psychological mechanisms, as well as the tactics are the same AFAIC.
292 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 9:20:20am |
In epic fashion Arnold @Schwarzenegger changed his avatar then blasted anti gay trolls. #LovesWins #Pride2015 pic.twitter.com/L627fRw1PV
— Bipartisan Report (@Bipartisanism) June 27, 2015
293 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 9:20:25am |
RINO!!RINO!!RINO!!RINO!!
Arnold Schwarzenegger: Supreme Court’s Gay Marriage Ruling Was ‘the Right Decision’
Arnold Schwarzenegger, action star and former California governor, said in a press conference that the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide was “the right decision” - and he rebuffed those politicians “not having the balls” to lead.
295 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 9:21:19am |
re: #289 ObserverArt
Do people like this deny historical facts just for their own peace of mind to cover over humans being capable of such heinous acts or to hide their own evil inner feelings?
I have never understood the reasons. It’s like going out into a torrential rainstorm, getting carried away in a flash flood but still crying ‘it is not raining!”
For me, the reason for the denial is simple. They deny what happened in order to be able to cause the same shit happen all over.
296 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:22:25am |
297 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:24:09am |
Denial to me has always been about narrative. Deny the Holocaust or climate change, then you can deny that we need not to be bigots or take environmental action.
298 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 9:25:37am |
Republican Leader James Inhofe: My Gay Friends Think #SCOTUSMarriage Ruling Was “Bad Decision” http://t.co/AKYhUj7uwo pic.twitter.com/lQjeZjGUwi
— The Baxter Bean (@TheBaxterBean) June 27, 2015
James Inhofe: “My gay friends think #SCOTUSMarriage was a Bad Decision” ::Googles “imaginary gay friend”:: https://t.co/ISg3fFYVom
— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) June 27, 2015
Okay, just stop right there. Show of hands, Gay People, which one of you is “friends” with this jackass? https://t.co/elOLXCWW4x
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 27, 2015
299 | sagehen Jun 27, 2015 9:26:24am |
re: #293 freetoken
RINO!!RINO!!RINO!!RINO!!
Arnold Schwarzenegger: Supreme Court’s Gay Marriage Ruling Was ‘the Right Decision’
um… this is where I remind everyone that the California state legislature passed marriage equality twice, in 2005 and 2007. Schwarzenegger vetoed it both times.
300 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 9:27:12am |
re: #297 HappyWarrior
Denial to me has always been about narrative. Deny the Holocaust or climate change, then you can deny that we need not to be bigots or take environmental action.
Denial is a psychological defense mechanism; it allows the denier to continue to function without having to confront uncomfortable realities (and possibly, their part in those realities) which would otherwise threaten their sense of identity or mental/emotional integrity.
301 | Eclectic Cyborg Jun 27, 2015 9:27:16am |
As most of you know I’m a Christian, though definitely NOT a homophobic one. One of my coworkers from my previous job is lesbian. She’s also one of the hardest working and most respectful people I’ve ever met. She and her partner are planning to get married once the smoke clears in MS.
Separating religion from secular law, I can easily see the 14th amendment argument and how it prevailed in this case. The Christian beliefs regarding homosexuality have been a point of struggle for me. I’ve been having a Jacob moment for awhile (in the old Testament Jacob wrestled with God from night until daybreak).
The definition and reality of living as a homosexual has changed so much from Bibical times. It’s not easy for me to reconcile that.
I love the teachings and ways of Christ, but I will never be able hate gay people in his name, nor do I think that’s proper behavior of any Christian.
I kind of wish I could read Hebrew so I could look at the scriptures as originally written. That might give me the clarity I’m looking for.
302 | Eclectic Cyborg Jun 27, 2015 9:27:46am |
303 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 9:31:22am |
re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg
As most of you know I’m a Christian, though definitely NOT a homophobic one. One of my coworkers from my previous job is lesbian. She’s also one of the hardest working and most respectful people I’ve ever met. She and her partner are planning to get married once the smoke clears in MS.
Separating religion from secular law, I can easily see the 14th amendment argument and how it prevailed in this case. The Christian beliefs regarding homosexuality have been a point of struggle for me. I’ve been having a Jacob moment for awhile (in the old Testament Jacob wrestled with God from night until daybreak).
The definition and reality of living as a homosexual has changed so much from Bibical times. It’s not easy for me to reconcile that.
I love the teachings and ways of Christ, but I will never be able hate gay people in his name, nor do I think that’s proper behavior of any Christian.
I kind of wish I could read Hebrew so I could look at the scriptures as originally written. That might give me the clarity I’m looking for.
Just go with your feelings. That is what true spirituality really is. Part of the Christian thinking is God sends out messages. You are already getting yours. Accept your reality and just go with being a good person.
304 | Eclectic Cyborg Jun 27, 2015 9:32:07am |
So did crazy Pastor guy set himself on fire yet?
305 | stpaulbear Jun 27, 2015 9:32:08am |
re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth
The City Of Minneapolis Says Happy Pride! The I-35W bridge will be lit like this Friday and Saturday night.
That’s the section of 35E 35W that had collapsed. The first time the bridge was lit in rainbows like that was the week when same-sex marriage became law in MN. That was a fun week.
Via Wiki: After 52.6% of state voters rejected a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage in November 2012, the Minnesota Legislature passed a same-sex marriage bill in May 2013, which Governor Mark Dayton signed on May 14, 2013.
(edited to get the damned freeway right. I live a couple blocks from 35E)
306 | TedStriker Jun 27, 2015 9:32:32am |
re: #299 sagehen
um… this is where I remind everyone that the California state legislature passed marriage equality twice, in 2005 and 2007. Schwarzenegger vetoed it both times.
A lot has changed since 2007; I think that even Arnie is allowed to have a “come to Jesus” moment on this, just as President Obama did.
307 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 9:32:36am |
308 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:32:36am |
309 | thedopefishlives Jun 27, 2015 9:32:51am |
re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth
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One of my local friends posted this. I’ve never seen the bridge so beautiful.
310 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:33:09am |
re: #304 Eclectic Cyborg
So did crazy Pastor guy set himself on fire yet?
No he’s backtracking (shock) saying he didn’t mean it.
311 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 9:33:33am |
re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg
I kind of wish I could read Hebrew so I could look at the scriptures as originally written. That might give me the clarity I’m looking for.
Some writers/theologians take the path of contextual relevance, positing that that culture of the ancient Near East cannot translate into 21st century America. For these kinds of approaches, orthopraxy is not something that is fixed in stone, and orthodoxy is not something that is too large, often reducing to a single assertion of a deity.
There is the “progressive Christian” movement, that fundamentalists assail, that attempt to do what you are doing. I don’t know how over the coming decades such movements will thrive, or if they will die. I think most of them will end up in a general deistic belief system.
312 | thedopefishlives Jun 27, 2015 9:33:54am |
re: #305 stpaulbear
That’s the section of 35E that had collapsed. The first time the bridge was lit in rainbows like that was the week when same-sex marriage became law in MN. That was a fun week.
Via Wiki: After 52.6% of state voters rejected a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage in November 2012, the Minnesota Legislature passed a same-sex marriage bill in May 2013, which Governor Mark Dayton signed on May 14, 2013.
Yep, I remember that quite clearly. It was a big, big deal out here because we live in a particularly religious area of Minnesota and the local community was bitterly divided.
313 | Eclectic Cyborg Jun 27, 2015 9:34:04am |
re: #310 HappyWarrior
No he’s backtracking (shock) saying he didn’t mean it.
Isn’t there something in the Bible about false witness?
:P
314 | Eclectic Cyborg Jun 27, 2015 9:35:30am |
I honestly think part of my struggle relates to the more Liberal society I grew up in and the more conservative one I’m in now.
315 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:35:40am |
re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg
Isn’t there something in the Bible about false witness?
:P
Yes but the Bible also frowns on mixing fabrics and eating shellfish. Which reminds me, I want shrimp tacos.
316 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 9:36:24am |
re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg
so I could look at the scriptures as originally written
That would assume we have the original text… which we don’t :)
317 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 9:36:41am |
How to meet your #God! pic.twitter.com/qsmRSTDJrW
— Calestous Juma (@calestous) June 27, 2015
318 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:39:52am |
What religious folks need to understand is these texts were written over a thousand years ago. Can they be a guide for living a good life? Sure but the rule book, Nile, and even in the early years after the Bible was written, literalism wasn’t common. Biblical literalism is a modern concept.
319 | Eclectic Cyborg Jun 27, 2015 9:40:47am |
Not sure if this made its way here yesterday or not:
Assemblies of God leader says 6/26 a ‘sad day for America’
Today is a sad day for America.
In Obergefell v. Hodges, a 5-4 majority of the Supreme Court ruled:
“The Fourteenth Amendment requires a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex and to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-State.”
As a Christian minister and general superintendent of the Assemblies of God, I am deeply concerned with the Court’s redefinition of marriage and the negative effects that it may have on religious freedom.
320 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 9:41:27am |
Even with all the scholarly efforts at restoring the original Hebrew text (which is expressly not the same as the masoretic text), at most we could get to the late “final edition” from a certain era. This would contain numerous edits that would simply go undetected by us.
321 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:43:26am |
If you seriously want biblical law, you forfeit any right to complain about Shariah Imo.
322 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 9:43:40am |
Back in 1967, it took SCOTUS to say it was OK for Clarence Thomas to do this: #LoveWins pic.twitter.com/cgHemREyXt
— Terrell J. Starr (@Russian_Starr) June 26, 2015
323 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 9:47:21am |
Texas pastor denies plan to set self on fire if gay marriage was legalized, was only quoting a song http://t.co/GTxZ52VWt3 hahaha
— Doc Hamrick (@mch7576) June 27, 2015
324 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 9:48:04am |
re: #318 HappyWarrior
Literalism as a separate “phenomenon” - no. It was simply how people read the Bible - literally. Noah’s flood, Adam living ~ 900 years, etc. - people did not doubt this for the lack of counter-evidence. Hence lack of a “literalist movement”, simply because almost everyone was a literalist by default. When people like Augustine tried to allegorize some points, they were tolerated, but they also stood out. And Augustine of course believed in a 6000 year old cosmos.
325 | Joe Bacon Jun 27, 2015 9:48:12am |
Those poor right wing nuts…taking 3 body blows in 2 days…hmmm, wonder what’s next in store for them so they can melt down ever more?
326 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:48:54am |
re: #322 wrenchwench
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He has no sense of decency at all. I used to think maybe he got a bit of a bad rap but Thomas earns the scorn he gets by being a terrible judge.
327 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 9:49:12am |
Rally held at Alabama Capitol to protest removal of Confederate flags. http://t.co/2l2JteaNU5 pic.twitter.com/VEGKZuZZyu
— WSFA 12 News (@wsfa12news) June 27, 2015
A separate group has congregated across from the Capitol Building on Dexter Avenue. pic.twitter.com/heY8e6GQfc
— WSFA 12 News (@wsfa12news) June 27, 2015
328 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:49:35am |
re: #324 Nyet
Literalism as a separate “phenomenon” - no. It was simply how people read the Bible - literally. Noah’s flood, Adam living ~ 900 years, etc. - people simply did not doubt this for the lack of counter-evidence. Hence lack of a “literalist movement”, simply because almost everyone was a literalist by default. When people like Augustine tried to allegorize some points, they were tolerated, but they also stood out. And Augustine of course believed in the 6000 year old cosmos.
Ah ok fair enough.
329 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 9:49:46am |
re: #316 Nyet
That would assume we have the original text… which we don’t :)
There is a little from the Qumran caves that may be within a few centuries of original edits… and some stuff from Egypt that are also a few centuries after fixation… but so little does actually remain from that time. There is nothing that is literally “the original”. Plus several of the best preserved of the writings did not become part of the received canon, which strikes me as being a bit arbitrary.
Anyway, the marriage customs of that time are not a deep mystery. Families arranged marriages. Rich men could afford more than one wife if they wanted. Infant death rate was high, women thus needing to bear many children in order to enough adult children to support them and society.
330 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:50:37am |
re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I missed that one I guess. Is it on the same album as “I’m gonna move to Canada because of Obamacare.”
331 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 9:52:45am |
Augustine:
They are deceived, too, by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of many thousand years, though, reckoning by the sacred writings, we find that not 6000 years have yet passed. And, not to spend many words in exposing the baselessness of these documents, in which so many thousands of years are accounted for, nor in proving that their authorities are totally inadequate, let me cite only that letter which Alexander the Great wrote to his mother Olympias, giving her the narrative he had from an Egyptian priest, which he had extracted from their sacred archives, and which gave an account of kingdoms mentioned also by the Greek historians. In this letter of Alexander’s a term of upwards of 5000 years is assigned to the kingdom of Assyria; while in the Greek history only 1300 years are reckoned from the reign of Bel himself, whom both Greek and Egyptian agree in counting the first king of Assyria. Then to the empire of the Persians and Macedonians this Egyptian assigned more than 8000 years, counting to the time of Alexander, to whom he was speaking; while among the Greeks, 485 years are assigned to the Macedonians down to the death of Alexander, and to the Persians 233 years, reckoning to the termination of his conquests. Thus these give a much smaller number of years than the Egyptians; and indeed, though multiplied three times, the Greek chronology would still be shorter. For the Egyptians are said to have formerly reckoned only four months to their year; so that one year, according to the fuller and truer computation now in use among them as well as among ourselves, would comprehend three of their old years. But not even thus, as I said, does the Greek history correspond with the Egyptian in its chronology. And therefore the former must receive the greater credit, because it does not exceed the true account of the duration of the world as it is given by our documents, which are truly sacred. Further, if this letter of Alexander, which has become so famous, differs widely in this matter of chronology from the probable credible account, how much less can we believe these documents which, though full of fabulous and fictitious antiquities, they would fain oppose to the authority of our well-known and divine books, which predicted that the whole world would believe them, and which the whole world accordingly has believed; which proved, too, that it had truly narrated past events by its prediction of future events, which have so exactly come to pass!
333 | CarolJ Jun 27, 2015 9:57:14am |
This is the rally for which they put the flag back up.
Why do they need to even cater to these morons?
334 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 9:58:02am |
re: #333 CarolJ
This is the rally for which they put the flag back up.
Why do they need to even cater to these morons?
They’re the GOP base.
335 | Dark_Falcon Jun 27, 2015 9:58:39am |
I’m sorry to be the stick in the mud, but I couldn’t call yesterday a good day, for reasons that had nothing to do with anything that happened in the Western Hemisphere. Almost 40 dead in Tunisia, 20-odd more in a mosque bombing in Kuwait (an attack which targeted the same sort of place as did DipShit Roof, was also born out of bigotry, and and which also intended to ignite civil conflict), and one dead more in France.
Add that to something like 120 killed by Daesh’s Greif* raid in Korbane, Syria, and you’ve got 200 civilians killed in IS terror attacks in two days. Forgive me if I don’t feel the urge to celebrate.
*: Four updings to whomever gets this reference and posts its meaning first.
336 | Pawn of the Oppressor Jun 27, 2015 9:59:54am |
re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg
Ask a Jew or read a good English copy of the Tanakh. I can’t speak for the Christian sequel but I’m pretty sure Jesus didn’t even mention gayness.
Leviticus says no male gay sex (but I don’t think it covers lesbian sex), in the midst of a long list of ways you should not use your genitals, mostly against incest and sex with animals. Later it mentions in passing that male gay sex is a death penalty offence. Then again, this is a strict priestly tradition that told stories of killing a man for gathering sticks on the sabbath day, and Christianity of course has all kinds of conflicting takes on applicability of “old law”. FYI Jesus was far from the first or the last Jew to ever argue about Jewish law and its interpretations.
“Biblical Times”, by the way, is a span of about five thousand years or more, stretching across most of the Middle East and covering everything from the stories of hill tribes of Kurdish territory, Egypt, Babylon, up through “modern” philosophically Greco-Persian practices, and a smattering of pseudo-Jewish cults. Empires literally rose and fell a dozen times in the span of time covered by these stories. Some of them were a couple of thousand years old already in Jesus’s time. Think that culture has changed a few times since then? Food for thought…
337 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 10:00:29am |
We have few politicians, sadly, who will stand up in public and expound and why we in the 21st century have to reject some older beliefs, which are now out of date and hinder more than help.
All politicians in America have to be elected so of course I realize they want to try and not offend too many people. In a sense, a political campaign is like a singles date-night, where people flitter from one to another looking for love, trying to make the right impression (truth be damned.)
There is no way around the obvious in regards to gay marriage: the Biblical damnation of homosexuality is now out of date.
There are people who work real, real, real hard to try and show that the Bible is not anti-homosexual, but I think these people are trying too hard. And they do so because they don’t want to come to the obvious conclusion, which is this:
Some parts of the Bible are just wrong and out of date.
339 | sagehen Jun 27, 2015 10:04:00am |
re: #324 Nyet
Literalism as a separate “phenomenon” - no. It was simply how people read the Bible - literally. Noah’s flood, Adam living ~ 900 years, etc. - people did not doubt this for the lack of counter-evidence. Hence lack of a “literalist movement”, simply because almost everyone was a literalist by default.
No. Not.
Genesis chapter 1 is a creation narrative that starts from nothing, goes through various steps to end up with people.
Genesis chapter 2 loops back to the beginning, does another creation narrative that starts from nothing and goes through various steps to end up with people.
But the narratives aren’t the same — things are done in different order, God uses different methods, they’re mutually contradictory stories. Big honking clue right there in the very beginning of the book that it’s not be taken literally.
340 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 10:05:30am |
re: #336 Pawn of the Oppressor
Interestingly, later rabbis, like Maimonides, added a prohibition against lesbian sex too.
Lesbian relations are forbidden. This is “the conduct of Egypt” which we were warned against, as [Leviticus 18:3] states: “Do not follow the conduct of Egypt.” Our Sages said:22 What would they do? A man would marry a man, a woman would marry a woman, and a woman would marry two men.
Although this conduct is forbidden,23 lashes are not given for it, for it is not a specific prohibition24 and there is no intercourse at all. Therefore such women are not forbidden to marry into the priesthood as zonot, nor does a woman become prohibited to her husband because of this,25 for this is not considered harlotry. It is, however, appropriate to give them stripes for rebellious conduct26 because they performed a transgression. A man should take precautions with his wife with regard to this matter and should prevent women who are known to engage in such practices from visiting her and her from visiting them.
341 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 10:06:52am |
re: #339 sagehen
That there are biblical contradictions never stopped people from taking the Bible literally.
342 | Belafon Jun 27, 2015 10:09:28am |
re: #335 Dark_Falcon
We’re going to celebrate this because some people got to do something that they couldn’t otherwise.
Name any day you celebrate and I could find something to mourn. So we’ll celebrate what we can.
343 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 10:09:42am |
re: #337 freetoken
There is no way around the obvious in regards to gay marriage: the Biblical damnation of homosexuality is now out of date.
There are people who work real, real, real hard to try and show that the Bible is not anti-homosexual, but I think these people are trying too hard. And they do so because they don’t want to come to the obvious conclusion, which is this:
Some parts of the Bible are just wrong and out of date.
Yep. All those “they’re just prohibitions against temple prostitution” fantasies are the reverse side of the fundie apologetical coin. They find currency in some liberal religious circles tho.
344 | prairiefire Jun 27, 2015 10:10:24am |
re: #61 b_sharp
You Americans are some weird ass motherfuckers. Same sex marriage and universal healthcare sure didn’t take that much effort up here and when we got it we didn’t celebrate anywhere near as much.
It’s like you fight to not poke yourselves in the eye with a stick and then weep tears of joy when you finally drop the stick.
Good on ya.
You sure the fuck aren’t boring.
{{{b_sharp}}}
346 | electrotek Jun 27, 2015 10:15:01am |
Check-mate!
brown guys love to use religion to defend their homophobic views.. where was Allah when you DM-ed that girl for nudes?
— r (@ryangodling) June 26, 2015
347 | JadeHelmCurious Jun 27, 2015 10:18:23am |
I posted this on my FB page:
As somebody who maybe 5 years ago wasn’t staunchly against gay marriage, but accepted that maybe they should be allowed domestic partnerships, or believed that possibly it would be better for kids to be in traditional marriages, I was not really for it… I’m glad I changed. People can learn and opinions can be changed. After pressure and challenge from peers I challenged myself to really think through what if any issues I had with gay marriage or why it would be good or bad for society. I came up with nothing. Nothing wrong. In fact, I realized society is better off encouraging all people to enter into contracts and agreements founded on love and mutual benefit. Yesterday was a great day for our country and the buzz hasn’t worn off yet. Still work to be done, but yesterday was a really big deal.
I was never really against gay marriage, but was never really for it either. I had that privilege not being gay or having gay family or friends. But on an issue like that I think you have to choose, so I had to work it out… in a large part it was worked out here on LGF. At one point I remember discussing gays in military service and thinking they should be able to serve to some degree but controlled in others… then military brass came out and said ‘we got this, gays will serve.’ And that’s when I really chose a side and worked my shit out.
My biggest regret was letting the nattering naybobs of negativity get a little play in my head. Not that I was against gayness on a religious/sin level, but wasn’t ‘for’ gay people or an ally. I was intellectually lazy. You’re either for justice and equality or you are not for justice and equality. I felt like I had to choose and could find absolutely nothing wrong with gayness, gay parenting… nothing. I chose to be on the side of justice and equality.
Yesterday the world became a little better place and it feels really good.
348 | Jenner7 Jun 27, 2015 10:20:32am |
Thank you Brittany Newsome. You are a courageous woman. And thank you to those that helped her.
349 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 10:21:36am |
heh…
God has asked me to pose this question. http://t.co/kZNixlReUj pic.twitter.com/jYPnIfK5mx
— Patrick M (@andendall) June 27, 2015
350 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 10:24:26am |
The gospel Jesus, for one, was a biblical literalist. He believed in the special creation:
Mark 10:6-9New International Version (NIV)
6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
and the global flood:
Matthew 24:37-39New International Version (NIV)
37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
What the real Jesus (if he existed) believed is of course a mystery, but he would probably take the Bible literally too.
351 | BlueSpotinAL Jun 27, 2015 10:25:05am |
Reading some of the “thoughts” of GOP presidential dandidates and other leaders, the GOP is the Party of “Nuh-uh!”.
352 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 10:25:58am |
Coloured powder sprayed onto partygoers explodes. More than 200 hurt in Taiwan amusement park http://t.co/J0mNieda1t pic.twitter.com/m3i1jG12nE
— Channel NewsAsia (@ChannelNewsAsia) June 27, 2015
353 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 10:27:22am |
re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth
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WTF was that ‘colored powder’ made from? Ammonium nitrate?!
Damn.
354 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 10:29:21am |
re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth
WSFA 12 News ✔@wsfa12news
Rally held at Alabama Capitol to protest removal of Confederate flags. shout.lt
12:11 PM - 27 Jun 2015
Where are all the African Americans that would want to keep the flag up as part of their southern heritage and not because of racism???
Maybe I am missing seeing them in that image. Anyone?
I bet some African Americans have more Alabama heritage/history than some of those pictured.
Hmmm. They probably are not wanting to celebrate all that or something. I wonder why?
355 | Belafon Jun 27, 2015 10:31:37am |
re: #353 Dr Lizardo
WTF was that ‘colored powder’ made from? Ammonium nitrate?!
Damn.
Flour is explosive if sprayed into the air and comes into contact with a spark.
356 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 10:32:14am |
re: #355 Belafon
Flour is explosive if sprayed into the air and comes into contact with a spark.
Yep.
357 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 10:32:51am |
re: #266 thedopefishlives
Travis? In what way are you unequal to every one else in the country?
And no, the fact that as a white male you are no longer solely in charge doesn’t count.
358 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 10:33:09am |
In 29 states you can get married on Friday & fired from your job that Monday. The battle is not over yet! #lovewins pic.twitter.com/ay2Q2M5EZv
— Ari? #LOVEWINS (@CastieIsAssbutt) June 26, 2015
359 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 10:34:20am |
#BREAKING: FDNY battling blaze at Trump Tower on Upper West Side http://t.co/IItvka7GoZ
— NBC New York (@NBCNewYork) June 27, 2015
360 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 10:35:07am |
re: #355 Belafon
Flour is explosive if sprayed into the air and comes into contact with a spark.
Diesel engines have been modified to work on oatmeal and sawdust. Of course, that was back in the days of pneumatic injection.
361 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 10:35:25am |
Black smoke engulfs Trump Tower in NYC after fire on terrace injures one person. http://t.co/SdszjeWY8k pic.twitter.com/GBq6Yv0jMo
— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) June 27, 2015
362 | Jenner7 Jun 27, 2015 10:37:36am |
If all goes well in the hearing @RepRutherford thinks @BreeNewsome and James will be free on bail tonight.
— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) June 27, 2015
363 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 10:38:21am |
Pole-climbing to remove racist flags should be a new X Games event pic.twitter.com/zi8YkwgaCX
— J.A. Adande (@jadande) June 27, 2015
364 | Jenner7 Jun 27, 2015 10:39:03am |
5 recent black church arsons Knoxville 6/21 Macon GA 6/23 Charlotte NC 6/24 Warrenville, SC 6/26 Tallahassee 6/26 @Russian_Starr @blacksnob
— Lauren Victoria (@LVBurke) June 27, 2015
There needs to be more coverage on the rash of church burnings that have happened in the past week.
— deray mckesson (@deray) June 27, 2015
365 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 10:42:16am |
re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg
re: #303 ObserverArt
Just go with your feelings. That is what true spirituality really is. Part of the Christian thinking is God sends out messages. You are already getting yours. Accept your reality and just go with being a good person.
I’m an agnostic but I’m pretty sure that God (Allah to Zeus, take your pick) is an existentialist.
God doesn’t care what what a person believes. God cares about how a person acts!
366 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 10:43:25am |
re: #304 Eclectic Cyborg
So did crazy Pastor guy set himself on fire yet?
No. He’s never been comfortable with the whole flint/spark thing. It’s too modern and so he can never get it to work.
367 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 10:45:22am |
Looks like God may be talking to The Donald™ today.
368 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 10:45:48am |
re: #365 Romantic Heretic
God doesn’t care what what a person believes. God cares about how a person acts!
The trick is to know what is acting in accordance with God’s wishes. Let’s just hope she doesn’t want human sacrifice or something like that.
369 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 10:46:05am |
re: #367 ObserverArt
Looks like God may be talking to The DonaldTM today.
Just when you thought this week couldn't get any more just. https://t.co/NaJkuljNGQ
— God (@TheTweetOfGod) June 27, 2015
370 | Dark_Falcon Jun 27, 2015 10:47:43am |
re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Two quick thoughts:
1. The Donald had best hope the FDNY finds his building had been kept up to code or he could find his presidential hopes going up in smoke.
2. I hope, though, that this wasn’t arson. If it was, that might generate a fair bit of undeserved sympathy for Trump, not to mention the annoying YERPs of brain-dead extremists screaming “REICHTAG FIRE!!1”.
371 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 10:49:03am |
Gay Marriage has been legal in Canada for 10 years. pic.twitter.com/7BqVLiunMi
— maddie (@Maddie_R_W) June 26, 2015
372 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 10:50:20am |
re: #370 Dark_Falcon
Two quick thoughts:
1. The Donald had best hope the FDNY finds his building had been kept up to code or he could find his presidential hopes going up in smoke.
2. I hope, though, that this wasn’t arson. If it was, that might generate a fair bit of undeserved sympathy for Trump, not to mention the annoying YERPs of brain-dead extremists screaming “REICHTAG FIRE!!1”.
How much you care to bet it won’t be long before it’ll be all about ILLEAGLE MESSICANS!!?
I’m not a betting man myself, but I’d say there’s good odds that’ll come up pretty damn soon.
373 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 27, 2015 10:51:35am |
374 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 10:51:45am |
Federal legislation takes aim at Mexican gray wolf program http://t.co/D0N23XaXny
— KOB 4 (@KOB4) June 27, 2015
Steve Pearce hates Prairie Chickens, too.
375 | Dark_Falcon Jun 27, 2015 10:52:10am |
re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth
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That tweet got deleted, and properly so. Anyone who wants to call this week ‘just’ from God’s perspective deserves a (online) pounding. Maybe it was in the US, but not in Tunisia, not in Syria to be sure.
And even setting that aside, this fire can hardly be said to be just to the person it has actually hurt. The poster of the tweet was made aware of this and pulled it.
376 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 10:53:01am |
re: #375 Dark_Falcon
That tweet got deleted, and properly so. Anyone who wants to call this week ‘just’ from God’s perspective deserves a (online) pounding. Maybe it was in the US, but not in Tunisia, not in Syria to be sure.
And even setting that aside, this fire can hardly be said to be just to the person it has actually hurt. The poster of the tweet was made aware of this and pulled it.
That account deletes tweets very often.
377 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 10:53:26am |
I need a card that says 'congrats on 25 years together and I'm sorry our nation didn't give you the right to marry until yesterday.'
— Alice Dreger (@AliceDreger) June 27, 2015
378 | Dark_Falcon Jun 27, 2015 10:54:44am |
re: #374 wrenchwench
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Steve Pearce hates Prairie Chickens, too.
Wolves do cause economic losses to farmers and ranchers, and either the government must have plans in place to reduce such losses and compensate for those that occur, or the wolf reintroductions should not happen.
379 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 10:56:30am |
re: #368 Nyet
The trick is to know what is acting in accordance with God’s wishes. Let’s just hope she doesn’t want human sacrifice or something like that.
I could, of course be wrong, but this is the closest I’ve heard to God’s wishes.
381 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 10:58:26am |
re: #378 Dark_Falcon
Wolves do cause economic losses to farmers and ranchers, and either the government must have plans in place to reduce such losses and compensate for those that occur, or the wolf reintroductions should not happen.
Ranchers are compensated when there is evidence of wolf predation. The grazing is happening on federal leases and should be brought to an end. Some ranchers support the wolves, but many do not.
382 | blueraven Jun 27, 2015 10:59:24am |
re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth
That account deletes tweets very often.
Yes he does and this one needed to be. What was he thinking?
At least one person was injured.
Nobody should be celebrating a burning building (with people in it).
383 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 10:59:47am |
Regarding the Greek crisis, this photo of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble pretty much says it all:
384 | Romantic Heretic Jun 27, 2015 11:00:36am |
re: #380 Nyet
To the God you wished existed. Who’s to say God is not evil by our standards?
Not me. I can never know this side of death, if at all.
385 | Dark_Falcon Jun 27, 2015 11:01:27am |
re: #381 wrenchwench
Ranchers are compensated when there is evidence of wolf predation. The grazing is happening on federal leases and should be brought to an end. Some ranchers support the wolves, but many do not.
I disagree in this case. Keep the ranches and don’t allow more wolves. Ranchers pay taxes, wolves don’t and the country needs money. Normally I’d not say this, since I tend to favor nature, but this time I think the local and monetary interests should win the day.
BBL
386 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 11:03:54am |
re: #379 Romantic Heretic
I could, of course be wrong, but this is the closest I’ve heard to God’s wishes.
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The Sufis have wahdat ul wajood: en.wikipedia.org
387 | Eventual Carrion Jun 27, 2015 11:04:11am |
re: #177 Nyet
So Jindal proposed getting rid of the SCOTUS.
Yeah, to preserve the constitution. Weird huh?
388 | Teukka Jun 27, 2015 11:05:02am |
re: #387 Eventual Carrion
Yeah, to preserve the constitution. Weird huh?
Isn’t the separation of powers set down in the constitution?
389 | calochortus Jun 27, 2015 11:09:07am |
re: #385 Dark_Falcon
I disagree in this case. Keep the ranches and don’t allow more wolves. Ranchers pay taxes, wolves don’t and the country needs money. Normally I’d not say this, since I tend to favor nature, but this time I think the local and monetary interests should win the day.
BBL
You might want to Google “environmental impact of wolves” or something along those lines. In brief: Lack of predators allows deer and elk to seriously degrade the environment around streams by over-browsing. It’s bad for streams, bad for fish and that means fewer fish are predated and their remains aren’t carried into the forest to fertilize the land. Unintended consequence : degradation of the ecosystem ensues.
390 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 11:09:13am |
re: #387 Eventual Carrion
Jindal is racing with Cruz and Trump to be the biggest demagogue in the car.
391 | Charles Johnson Jun 27, 2015 11:09:18am |
Wow - these three tweets really took off.
So much rage coming out of the right wing tonight, over a Supreme Court decision that will affect their lives NOT AT ALL.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 27, 2015
If you don’t believe in same sex marriage, don’t get married to someone of the same sex. This isn’t difficult to grasp.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 27, 2015
It’s revealing of the true agenda, though; it’s not about their own personal liberty, it’s about dictating how other people should live.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 27, 2015
392 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 11:10:11am |
re: #391 Charles Johnson
Wow - these three tweets really took off.
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It’s typical right wing hypocrisy regarding individual rights and liberty.
393 | piratedan Jun 27, 2015 11:13:19am |
re: #391 Charles Johnson
Charles,
If the ghey and the blacks have to be treated as just regular people, then who in the hell are the White Christian Theologians going to feel superior to? After all, isn’t it written down somewhere that they have to be superior to somebody, isn’t it?
/////////////////////////////////////
394 | blueraven Jun 27, 2015 11:15:39am |
GOP 2016: getting crazier by the day.
Ted Cruz proposes Constitutional amendment that subjects Supreme Court justices to judicial retention elections
— Katie Zezima (@katiezez) June 27, 2015
395 | Nyet Jun 27, 2015 11:16:14am |
re: #391 Charles Johnson
But but but teleology! And axiology! And ontology! And anatomy! Oh, I mean antimony. Drats, that’s antinomy!
396 | makeitstop Jun 27, 2015 11:18:37am |
re: #353 Dr Lizardo
WTF was that ‘colored powder’ made from? Ammonium nitrate?!
Damn.
Even flour will combust if airborne.
397 | Belafon Jun 27, 2015 11:20:24am |
398 | Eventual Carrion Jun 27, 2015 11:20:25am |
re: #299 sagehen
um… this is where I remind everyone that the California state legislature passed marriage equality twice, in 2005 and 2007. Schwarzenegger vetoed it both times.
Maybe his wife has finally given him his balls back?
399 | JadeHelmCurious Jun 27, 2015 11:21:16am |
There’s a story on Mediaite about an ISIS flag at a LGBT parade (in London).
I tweeted it to Bryan The Fischer LOL.
400 | Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 27, 2015 11:21:50am |
People who oppose #MarriageEquality have been told they're going to look #stupid in 20 years. They look stupid now. #LoveWins #UniteBlue
— Brian Paul Stuart (@BrianPaulStuart) June 27, 2015
401 | makeitstop Jun 27, 2015 11:22:23am |
403 | makeitstop Jun 27, 2015 11:23:56am |
404 | Charles Johnson Jun 27, 2015 11:25:36am |
re: #383 Dr Lizardo
Regarding the Greek crisis, this photo of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble pretty much says it all:
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He seems nice.
406 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 11:28:56am |
Greece on the brink of default after negotiations break down
If on Tuesday Greece does default, I don’t know how apocalyptic it will be.
But I do know that economics plays a big part in American elections, and if a financial crisis erupts then our election will reflect that.
407 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 11:29:31am |
I wrote an email to Ted Cruz this morning and said if after 226 years of the Supreme Court operating just as it always has and you don’t like it you are free to leave the country. I mentioned in fact his leaving this country might not be a bad thing and most likely even those politicians in his own party would probably endorse it.
I really hate the guy, more than any politician in my entire 40+ years of voting and following politics.
408 | electrotek Jun 27, 2015 11:30:08am |
Uh yeah, another false equivalence.
@BrinaAlg You really are clueless on what freedom of speech entails, don't you?
— Danial J ?????? ? (@danja84) June 27, 2015
409 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 11:33:36am |
re: #385 Dark_Falcon
I disagree in this case. Keep the ranches and don’t allow more wolves. Ranchers pay taxes, wolves don’t and the country needs money. Normally I’d not say this, since I tend to favor nature, but this time I think the local and monetary interests should win the day.
BBL
Local interests involve way more than just ranchers. This environment is a really poor one for raising cattle; so bad that they only have cow-calf operations and send them elsewhere to reach adulthood. Ranchers also have loose dogs who breed on occasion with the wolves. All those offspring must be killed. It is in nobody’s interest to subsidize the Cliven Bundy types. of which we have a few.
410 | CarolJ Jun 27, 2015 11:34:58am |
re: #394 blueraven
Which is why it will never happen. Imagine what would happen if Supreme Court positions would be subject to this-with term limits and elections-you could have 9 Democrats or 9 Republicans or constantly deadlocked decisions. Nobody wants that at all.
I love the takedowns of the Confederate flag. It’s way overdue. I mean, Jews don’t have to live with the swastika on state flags, license plates, et cetera. That fact has certainly lessened anti-semitism to a big degree. Why should black people have to endure the Confederate flag for the “heritage”? Why should we be a good sport about this symbol?
It’s also pretty enlightening to find out how ubiquitous this symbol is and how gratuitous as well. A Robert E Lee school in California?
A Confederate flag symbol in the windows of the National Cathedral? Why were Northerners so abject about giving the South a fake “Reconciliation” that left the former slaves high and dry, and Confederate wrong-doing hiwt washed? Were they afraid that if they didn’t pratctically lionize Lee and the Confederate leaders that there would be another Civil War afterwards?
That brings me to a pet peeve about Hollywood. Where’s the Northern equivalent to Gone with the Wind? How come we know more about General Lee thatn we do about General Grant-and by the way, where’s his movie? Where’s the northern equivalent of Scarlett, Rhett and the rest? We hear plenty about Confederate veteran organizations, but practically nothing about Union ones.
Along with taking down those flags, maybe it’s time for the North to tell its side of the story. We won after all….
411 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 11:39:41am |
re: #410 CarolJ
We hear plenty about Confederate veteran organizations, but practically nothing about Union ones.
The Grand Army of the Republic eventually died, and there was not, to the best of my knowledge, a fraternal organization for the offspring of such.
412 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 11:40:40am |
There are local historical societies though that do feature Union vets and Union involvement.
414 | allegro Jun 27, 2015 11:44:01am |
re: #378 Dark_Falcon
Wolves do cause economic losses to farmers and ranchers, and either the government must have plans in place to reduce such losses and compensate for those that occur, or the wolf reintroductions should not happen.
Wolves prevent far more losses to farmers than they cause to ranchers. When predators are eliminated rodents, rabbits and other small prey expand unchecked and cause serious crop loss.
415 | stpaulbear Jun 27, 2015 11:44:11am |
416 | Eventual Carrion Jun 27, 2015 11:44:47am |
re: #388 Teukka
Isn’t the separation of powers set down in the constitution?
Yep, that’s why it is weird.
417 | freetoken Jun 27, 2015 11:44:55am |
I guess I’d qualify (on two counts) for the following:
418 | allegro Jun 27, 2015 11:46:16am |
re: #385 Dark_Falcon
I disagree in this case. Keep the ranches and don’t allow more wolves. Ranchers pay taxes, wolves don’t and the country needs money. Normally I’d not say this, since I tend to favor nature, but this time I think the local and monetary interests should win the day.
BBL
You are quite wrong.
419 | wrenchwench Jun 27, 2015 11:48:59am |
re: #418 allegro
You are quite wrong.
He’s wrong about what the local and monetary interests are, in the long term. The interests he’s defending are not sustainable.
420 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 11:51:13am |
re: #417 freetoken
I guess I’d qualify (on two counts) for the following:
I qualify too. My aunt has my GG Pa’s discharge papers somewhere I hope.
421 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 11:52:59am |
re: #406 freetoken
Greece on the brink of default after negotiations break down
If on Tuesday Greece does default, I don’t know how apocalyptic it will be.
But I do know that economics plays a big part in American elections, and if a financial crisis erupts then our election will reflect that.
The issue is, there’s actually no mechanism to expel an EU member state from either the EMU or the EU itself. We here in Europe really would be in uncharted waters at that point.
Once you’re in - you’re in. Sorta like Cosa Nostra, I guess. :D
422 | Shiplord Kirel Jun 27, 2015 11:55:10am |
New page:
We Found a REAL Texas Segregationist You Can Denounce
This article, from a conservative source no less, is about none other than Thomas S. Lubbock, the Confederate bushwhacker and pro-slavery enthusiast for whom the city of Lubbock and Lubbock County are named. Tom Lubbock was a notable racist even among the southern “gentlemen” of the time. He went to Virginia in 1861 to organize a band of pro-Confederate guerrillas but died of typhus before he really got started. He might well have been worse than Nathan Bedford Forrest if he had survived, since he had a proven devotion to slavery as a cause in and of itself, while Forrest was more a simple brute and profiteer.
423 | ObserverArt Jun 27, 2015 11:58:25am |
re: #422 Shiplord Kirel
New page:
We Found a REAL Texas Segregationist You Can DenounceThis article, from a conservative source no less, is about none other than Thomas S. Lubbock, the Confederate bushwhacker and pro-slavery enthusiast for whom the city of Lubbock and Lubbock County are named. Tom Lubbock was a notable racist even among the southern “gentlemen” of the time. He went to Virginia in 1861 to organize a band of pro-Confederate guerrillas but died of typhus before he really got started. He might well have been worse than Nathan Bedford Forrest if he had survived, since he had a proven devotion to slavery as a cause in and of itself, while Forrest was more a simple brute and profiteer.
Awww…you’re just making that up. Haven’t you heard no one was devoted to slavery, especially in and of itself.
/
424 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 11:58:51am |
re: #404 Charles Johnson
He seems nice.
Heh.
He’s a long-time fixture in German politics. He’s in a wheelchair as a result of an assassination attempt back in 1990.
He certainly seems like someone I wouldn’t care to trifle with. :)
425 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 11:59:25am |
re: #422 Shiplord Kirel
New page:
We Found a REAL Texas Segregationist You Can DenounceThis article, from a conservative source no less, is about none other than Thomas S. Lubbock, the Confederate bushwhacker and pro-slavery enthusiast for whom the city of Lubbock and Lubbock County are named. Tom Lubbock was a notable racist even among the southern “gentlemen” of the time. He went to Virginia in 1861 to organize a band of pro-Confederate guerrillas but died of typhus before he really got started. He might well have been worse than Nathan Bedford Forrest if he had survived, since he had a proven devotion to slavery as a cause in and of itself, while Forrest was more a simple brute and profiteer.
Someone worse than Forrest-wow
426 | HappyWarrior Jun 27, 2015 12:02:16pm |
re: #424 Dr Lizardo
Heh.
He’s a long-time fixture in German politics. He’s in a wheelchair as a result of an assassination nation back in 1990.
He certainly seems like someone I wouldn’t care to trifle with. :)
I keep on thinking of the old Simpsons episode with the new German power plant owners and they send the older German who resembles Sgt. Schultz slightly as a means of lessening employees concerns. “we will start with employees by last name and then first? Simpson, Homer that is all.”
427 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 12:02:16pm |
Wolfgang Schäuble just had his own little press conference:
Germany’s Wolfgang Schauble has been giving his own press conference — and claimed that Greece is likely to get into a “difficult situation” in the days ahead.
Reuters has snapped the key points:
- GERMANY’S SCHAEUBLE SAYS THE GREEK REFUSAL TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS SURPRISED EVERYBODY
- GERMANY’S SCHAEUBLE SAYS THE REFERENDUM ANNOUNCED AT SHORT NOTICED WON’T SOLVE PROBLEMS
-GERMANY’S SCHAEUBLE SAYS IT IS PROBABLE THAT GREECE WILL GET INTO DIFFICULT SITUATION IN COMING DAYS
-GERMANY’S SCHAEUBLE SAYS “WE WILL DO EVERYTHING TO FIGHT ANY POSSIBLE CONTAGION”
-GERMANY’S SCHAEUBLE SAYS GREECE REMAINS PART OF EURO ZONE AND PART OF EUROPE, WILL DO EVERYTHING WHAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP GREECE IN DIFFICULT SITUATION
Schäuble: “This is not a good day for Europe. But Europe usually became stronger during crises.”
— Stefan Leifert (@StefanLeifert) June 27, 2015
428 | PhillyPretzel Jun 27, 2015 12:04:44pm |
re: #427 Dr Lizardo
Lets hope that they help each other instead of finger-pointing at each other.
429 | Dr Lizardo Jun 27, 2015 12:06:27pm |
More Schäuble:
#Schäuble: We decided today that we will not extend the 2nd programme. We did not decide to end the Eurozone membership of #Greece.
— Open Europe (@OpenEurope) June 27, 2015
#Schäuble: We wouldn't have been able to end Eurozone membership of #Greece today - how? We don't know the rules (of leaving Euro.)
— Open Europe (@OpenEurope) June 27, 2015
That gets to my earlier point - there are no rules for what to do in a situation like Greece is facing (e.g., default). I can only presume that when the EMU was created, that was such an unthinkable possibility that no one ever thought to ask how it would be handled.
430 | sagehen Jun 27, 2015 12:35:14pm |
re: #414 allegro
Wolves prevent far more losses to farmers than they cause to ranchers. When predators are eliminated rodents, rabbits and other small prey expand unchecked and cause serious crop loss.
Large prey, too.
There’s not enough wolves to kill all the deer that need killing, that’s why we issue hunting licenses and hope people will shoot five million of them every year (or in the case of Rock Creek Park, where they couldn’t risk letting random civilians shoot high-powered rifles in a somewhat populated area, the city had to hire snipers to cull the herd)…
But when we let deer breed as they will, they eat all the underbrush and damage forests, they spill out into eating farms and gardens, they get on the highway and cause wrecks…