Donald Trump Says the US Shouldn’t Try to Prevent Countries From Requiring Women to Wear Burqas

Because it does away with the need for makeup
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Wow, there’s so much cognitive dissonance in this Boston Globe report, at first I thought it was from one of those “parody” news sites. But no, it’s real.

ATKINSON, NH - Businessman Donald Trump told a packed room the United States should not challenge countries that require women to wear burkas as he unleashed a full-throttle criticism of America’s current foreign policy.

“Why are we fighting that?” the presidential candidate asked to cheers in the crowd, and added the United States should “let them” wear what they want.

A right wing audience is cheering Trump for saying Islamic countries should be able to require women to wear burqas? What? Imagine the right wing reaction if President Obama had said something like this.

And of course, there’s the little detail that the US is not trying to tell any Islamic country they can’t require women to wear burqas. It’s just not happening. It’s a total fantasy; this crowd is wildly cheering a complete falsehood.

And Trump being Trump, he followed this up with one of his trademark misogynistic blurts.

Trump, waving a hand across his face, also said women might prefer wearing burkas because it obviates the need for make-up.

Cheers! Applause! Yeah, maybe we should require burqas in the US too. Women will thank the government for saving them from the chore of putting on makeup!

I’m getting a headache trying to follow this “reasoning.”

But wait, there’s more! Trump explained that life hasn’t been easy for him. He had to struggle to start his business with a measly little loan of a million bucks from his dad. The poor guy.

“My whole life has been a no,” he said. “It has not been easy for me. I started off in Brooklyn. My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars.”

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420 comments
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darthstar  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:41:16am

He’s right that we can’t and shouldn’t tell people how their cultures should behave. He’s off point with his reasoning.

This gets back to what I was saying earlier…Trump is being intentionally divisive. It’s golden for him in the primary race.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:41:58am

Trump should start wearing one of these so he doesn’t have to worry about his hair.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:42:13am

Proof again that he can say just about anything and it will not hurt his standing in the polls.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:44:26am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:44:42am

Hold on. Let me see if I get this. He’s saying we SHOULDN’T attack other countries just because the women there wear burqas.

Okay.

When did we start doing that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:44:59am

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s what that stupid hat is for.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:45:56am

He is the political equivalent of a “Police Academy” movie. Critics can pan it all they want for being lame and stupid and derivative, and the counter is “That’s what it is meant to be!”

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:46:05am

Wasn’t freeing the women of Afghanistan part of the secondary reasons for the invasion? Everyone was supposed to be grateful to be modernized or something.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:46:43am

He’s saying that men in other countries should be allowed to make ‘their’ women wear whatever they want to make them wear, oh, and by the way, the women might like it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:47:47am

Uh huh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:49:56am

re: #8 calochortus

Wasn’t freeing the women of Afghanistan part of the secondary reasons for the invasion? Everyone was supposed to be grateful to be modernized or something.

There has been an ongoing discussion in Europe about how and wear women should be “allowed” to wear the burqa in public.

Oddly enough, they rarely ask the women themselves…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:50:07am

HURR HURR TEH OPPOSITE OF TEH SHARIA IS TEH RIGHTS FOR A WOMENS TO SHOOT A GUN WHILE BEING BARE NEKKID HURR HURR HUBBAHUBBA!!!!!!

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nines09  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:50:11am

“Small loan of a million dollars.” From Pop. What a tough break. I wonder what the APR was…..

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Ian G.  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:50:59am

Somewhere deep inside Trump’s idiocy is a decent point about our inability to get to get people to accept western values at gunpoint (cough, cough, Iraq). It’s too bad he didn’t elaborate on this point to take another shot at W/Jeb and the Iraq War catastrophe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:51:27am

re: #13 nines09

“Small loan of a million dollars.” From Pop. What a tough break. I wonder what the APR was…..

At a time when $1 million was worth $5 million today, and Manhattan real estate could be bought by people who weren’t billionaires.

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Testy Toad T  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:51:45am

re: #8 calochortus

Wasn’t freeing the women of Afghanistan part of the secondary reasons for the invasion? Everyone was supposed to be grateful to be modernized or something.

It’s an excellent reminder that Trump’s views are not particularly Republican in nature, at least by grown-up serious-pants standards. They align with the sections of the GOP’s platform that more directly cater to hateful nativist bullshit, but that appears to me to be almost coincidental.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:51:52am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR TEH OPPOSITE OF TEH SHARIA IS TEH RIGHTS FOR A WOMENS TO SHOOT A GUN WHILE BEING BARE NEKKID HURR HURR HUBBAHUBBA!!!!!!

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And needless to say, serving halal food is the first step on the slippery slope…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:52:25am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR TEH OPPOSITE OF TEH SHARIA IS TEH RIGHTS FOR A WOMENS TO SHOOT A GUN WHILE BEING BARE NEKKID HURR HURR HUBBAHUBBA!!!!!!

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These people need to be reminded that their ideology has a lot more in common with Shariah than ours does. Really wingnuts the gun pornography just makes you look like virgins who have never actually touched a woman before. If you have to use the 2nd amendment to say you respect women, you’re doing it all wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:52:38am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And needless to say, serving halal food is the first step on the slippery slope…

mmmm halal food.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:53:34am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

“Our women make up their own minds… except about access to healthcare, birth control, abortions, and equality in the work place.”

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:54:09am

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

Forget it, the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. /Blutarsky

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:54:17am

re: #19 HappyWarrior

mmmm halal food.

slippery slopey halal food…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:54:19am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And needless to say, serving halal food is the first step on the slippery slope…

You should see the hysteria over the report that pork would no longer be served in prison.

ZOMGWEREALLGONNADIE!!!1!!!!!1

Personally I think there should be a vegetarian option for prisoners who don’t eat pork.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:55:01am

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There has been an ongoing discussion in Europe about how and wear women should be “allowed” to wear the burqa in public.

I know, and I can understand both sides of that debate. It is perfectly possible that a woman who has always covered her face in public would feel uncomfortable exposing it. If the US decided that everyone had to go topless, I would feel pretty uncomfortable.
On the other hand, women forced by their families to wear a burqa might welcome the requirement that they not wear it, to say nothing of the public safety aspect of people not being able to hide their identity in public.

I have no patience for the “you’re here now and have to do what we want” argument.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:55:10am

re: #20 Kragar

“Our women make up their own minds… except about access to healthcare, birth control, abortions, and equality in the work place.”

ARE WIMMENS MAKE UP THERE OWN MINDS IF THEY WANTS TO SHOOT AT TEH GUN RANGE NEKKID WE LET THEM BUT NOT IF THAY ARE FAT!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:56:49am

I think if a woman wants to wear the burqa or not, that’s her choice in the end. If I had a daughter or wife, I’d encourage otherwise but in the end, it is their choice.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:57:42am

I think if Trump said he liked eating poo, he’d still probably not lose ground. The GOP base loves this guy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:58:04am

re: #24 calochortus

I know, and I can understand both sides of that debate. It is perfectly possible that a woman who has always covered her face in public would feel uncomfortable exposing it. If the US decided that everyone had to go topless, I would feel pretty uncomfortable.
On the other hand, women forced by their families to wear a burqa might welcome the requirement that they not wear it, to say nothing of the public safety aspect of people not being able to hide their identity in public.

I have no patience for the “you’re here now and have to do what we want” argument.

Yes, and it also involves whether Muslima schoolteachers in Germany should be allowed to wear a headscarf in schools…but again, throughout the debate, we have heard little or nothing from the women themselves

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:58:06am

re: #24 calochortus

I know, and I can understand both sides of that debate. It is perfectly possible that a woman who has always covered her face in public would feel uncomfortable exposing it. If the US decided that everyone had to go topless, I would feel pretty uncomfortable.
On the other hand, women forced by their families to wear a burqa might welcome the requirement that they not wear it, to say nothing of the public safety aspect of people not being able to hide their identity in public.

I have no patience for the “you’re here now and have to do what we want” argument.

“I’m sorry, Madame, but now that you are in France, you are no longer allowed to shave your armpits, and your husband must wear this beret.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:58:11am

The GOP candidates should be forced to wear bags over their heads at the debates, to save them from having to put on makeup.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:58:14am

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

You should see the hysteria over the report that pork would no longer be served in prison.

ZOMGWEREALLGONNADIE!!!1!!!!!1

Personally I think there should be a vegetarian option for prisoners who don’t eat pork.

Hey, how about we feed them healthy food as well. Not just the cheapest stuff they can get. We might actually save money on healthcare in the prisons…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:58:25am

I work in Dearborn and when I visit Meijer on my shopping trips I frequently will see women in hijab, but only occasionally will I see one in full niqab.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:00:10pm

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, and it also involves whether Muslima schoolteachers in Germany should be allowed to wear a headscarf in schools…but again, throughout the debate, we have heard little or nothing from the women themselves

I just can’t imagine caring whether a teacher wears a headscarf. I know it totally occupies the waking thoughts of many people, but really, what does it hurt?

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:00:43pm

You know, I thought Romney’s “we struggled when I was at Harvard and had to sell some stock I got from my dad” was bad… But Trump’s “small million dollar loan from dad” might be the most rediciolous thing I’ve ever heard a politician say

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:00:49pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

“I’m sorry, Madame, but now that you are in France, you are no longer allowed to shave your armpits, and your husband must wear this beret.”

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I’m not sure which would be worse.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:01:25pm

re: #34 KGxvi

You know, I thought Romney’s “we struggled when I was at Harvard and had to sell some stock I got from my dad” was bad… But Trump’s “small million dollar loan from dad” might be the most rediciolous thing I’ve ever heard a politician say

Trump has to be trolling the electorate with that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:01:40pm

re: #34 KGxvi

You know, I thought Romney’s “we struggled when I was at Harvard and had to sell some stock I got from my dad” was bad… But Trump’s “small million dollar loan from dad” might be the most rediciolous thing I’ve ever heard a politician say

Yeah when I saw that earlier, I thought wow even Romney wasn’t that clueless. Poor little Donald, having to borrow a million bucks must have been really hard.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:02:04pm

re: #36 calochortus

Trump has to be trolling the electorate with that.

I keep on expecting this to be one big prank but it’s shown no sign of ending.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:02:51pm

I have men who come into my store in long, flowing gowns. One of them corrected the little girl who said, ‘Mommy, he’s wearing a dress!’ He said, ‘It’s a cassock.’

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:03:30pm

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, and it also involves whether Muslima schoolteachers in Germany should be allowed to wear a headscarf in schools…but again, throughout the debate, we have heard little or nothing from the women themselves

THIS. Regardless of any good intentions that may be driving this stuff, it’s still taking the choice away from women without consulting them.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:04:27pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

“You must also now speak with theees OUTRAGEOUS accent uh-ho-ho!”

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sffilk  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:05:11pm

I think it’s time to put him into a burqa with all the “rules and regulations” involved in that, like not talking.

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b.d.  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:05:18pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

The GOP candidates should be forced to wear bags over their heads at the debates, to save them from having to put on makeup.

If they wore bags over their heads then how would we tell them apart?

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:07:08pm

re: #34 KGxvi

You know, I thought Romney’s “we struggled when I was at Harvard and had to sell some stock I got from my dad” was bad… But Trump’s “small million dollar loan from dad” might be the most rediciolous thing I’ve ever heard a politician say

Not even the most nutty thing Trump’s said.

After all, Trump inherited his dad’s real estate fortune and he could have been filthy rich had he invested it in an index fund instead of using his business acumen. Of course, had he given the money to Warren Buffet in 1974 (much more of a self-made man), he could have become legitimately the richest guy on the planet with $67 billion.

Trump also tried to take credit for Ford keeping workers in Ohio, even though the deal was done before Trump even entered the race and Trump still produces his clothing lines overseas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:07:50pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR TEH OPPOSITE OF TEH SHARIA IS TEH RIGHTS FOR A WOMENS TO SHOOT A GUN WHILE BEING BARE NEKKID HURR HURR HUBBAHUBBA!!!!!!

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I was just about to point this out. A TOPLESS woman with a gun? SERIOUSLY? I mean I know most of their gun memes are stupid enough, but DAMN.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:09:16pm

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

I was just about to point this out. A TOPLESS woman with a gun? SERIOUSLY? I mean I know most of their gun memes are stupid enough, but DAMN.

There’s another one with a topless woman (with an American flag over her shoulders) holding a rifle.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:09:28pm

I’m supposed to wear make-up when I go out?

I’ve been doing this whole “woman” thing wrong according to Trump, then.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:10:39pm

You know part of the reason a lot of other countries really don’t like the U.S. is because they think it has a constant need to meddle in affairs. America is NOT as exceptional as these nutjobs think and certainly has no right to try to force policy on an another nation.

I mean, I’m all for meaningful diplomatic relations, but the idea that “This is what America wants, so you better do it and SHUT THE FUCK UP!” is very damaging to the international image of this country.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:11:30pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Trump’s nomination acceptance speech at the convention:

Yoose thought I was serious? What the fuck is wrong with you? You’re all fired! I officially endorse Hillary Clinton

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:11:39pm

Yet here, in the United States of America, a bunch of male Republican misogynists should be allowed to control what a woman does to her own body. Is that about right?

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b.d.  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:12:01pm
memories…
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:12:03pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Hillary wouldn’t want him. And neither would any Democrat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:12:17pm

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

There’s another one with a topless woman (with an American flag over her shoulders) holding a rifle.

So let me get this straight:

1) Actual topless woman on a porn site = EVIL! PERVERSION! OBSCENITY!

but

2) Topless woman with a strategically placed gun or other object = PATRIOTIC FREEDUMB!

Is that about right?

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Testy Toad T  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:12:41pm

re: #48 Eclectic Cyborg

I mean, I’m all for meaningful diplomatic relations, but the idea that “This is what America wants, so you better do it and SHUT THE FUCK UP!” is very damaging to the international image of this country.

HE’S GOT A CANUCKISTANI PICTURE ON HIS USERNAME! GET HIM!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:12:51pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

The GOP candidates should be forced to wear bags over their heads at the debates, to save them from having to put on makeup.

And we still wouldn’t be able to tell them from one another.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:14:14pm

re: #47 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m supposed to wear make-up when I go out?

I’ve been doing this whole “woman” thing wrong according to Trump, then.

Not everyone can be as naturally beautiful as some of us.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:14:17pm

re: #54 Testy Toad T

HE’S GOT A CANUCKISTANI PICTURE ON HIS USERNAME! GET HIM!

Who let all this riff raff into the room? That one’s smoking a joint! And that one’s got spots! If I had my way, I’d have all of you shot! /Pink

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:14:51pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

So let me get this straight:

1) Actual topless woman on a porn site = EVIL! PERVERSION! OBSCENITY!

but

2) Topless woman with a strategically placed gun or other object = PATRIOTIC FREEDUMB!

Is that about right?

YEs beause gun.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:16:28pm

I’ve got to admit, I enjoy watching the Trump-monster chase his GOP-Frankenstein creator around the castle.

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b.d.  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:16:31pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

re: #58 HappyWarrior

The second amendment changes all sorts of otherwise reality based arguments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:16:37pm

I think somebody’s gonna pay dearly for this…

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:18:40pm

This is the GOP that the candidates are chasing in Iowa. That’s who gets to decide who stays in or has to drop out as the opening round of primaries/caucuses take shape. Lovely.

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John Vreeland  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:22:15pm
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unproven innocence  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:23:10pm

re: #2 Kragar

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Trump should start wearing one of these so he doesn’t have to worry about his hair.

I see a golden tassel. He’d still obsess about it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:23:20pm

<ere: #63 John Vreeland

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Bwhahaha.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:25:45pm

re: #63 John Vreeland

wow. the worm is turning.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:26:02pm

re: #64 unproven innocence

I see a golden tassel. He’d still obsess about it.

The gold tassel means it operates under Admirality laws.

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Testy Toad T  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:26:59pm

re: #63 John Vreeland

It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:29:01pm

re: #63 John Vreeland

makes sense… Smith is the most reasonable person on Fox News, so no surprise Dim Jim doesn’t like him

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John Vreeland  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:30:00pm

re: #67 Kragar

“Admiralty? Is that like Realty?“—Trump, probably.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:30:12pm

re: #69 KGxvi

makes sense… Smith is the most reasonable person on Fox News, so no surprise Dim Jim doesn’t like him

Shep does have his momments.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:35:53pm

re: #47 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m supposed to wear make-up when I go out?

I’ve been doing this whole “woman” thing wrong according to Trump, then.

Makeup is a requirement. But it would be bad if we made women wear burqas.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:38:02pm

BBL

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dholmes32  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:38:35pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

I work in Dearborn and when I visit Meijer on my shopping trips I frequently will see women in hijab, but only occasionally will I see one in full niqab.

I consider myself a very progressive person, but I came pretty close to losing it when I saw a woman wearing a niqab in Cambridge, Mass. last summer. One part of me knew it was her right, the other part was viscerally repelled. I think about it a lot, because it showed me I’m not as open minded as I’d like.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:40:07pm

re: #63 John Vreeland

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Dim Jim has such standards.
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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:42:23pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Makeup is a requirement. But it would be bad if we made women wear burqas.

“Unless they’re ugly. Then, those feminazi females should shut up and cover up.”
/Going Full Trump

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:42:24pm

re: #63 John Vreeland

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:42:31pm

re: #47 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m supposed to wear make-up when I go out?

I’ve been doing this whole “woman” thing wrong according to Trump, then.

Yes, because you’re not beautiful enough as you are, as a natural woman. Here, put on this mask before you go out so you don’t have to be ashamed of yourself. //

One kind of mask or the other—make-up, burqa, niqab—they’re all essentially “bags” over your head that conceal your real face.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:45:09pm

re: #78 CuriousLurker

Yes, because you’re not beautiful enough as you are, as a natural woman. Here, put on this mask before you go out so you don’t have to be ashamed of yourself. //

One kind of mask or the other—make-up, burqa, niqab—they’re all essentially “bags” over your head that conceal your real face.

HURR HURR ALL TEH RED BLOODED MURICAN WOMENS SHOULD WHERE AN AMERICAN FLAG BIKINI & A HIP HOLSTER & AR-15!!!!1!!!

UNLESS THERE FAT!!!!!!11 THOSE FUGLY FEMINISTS CAN WHERE ALL TEH BURQAS ESPECIALLY MOOCHELLE & LENA DUNHEM!!!!!!

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:45:18pm

re: #74 dholmes32

I consider myself a very progressive person, but I came pretty close to losing it when I saw a woman wearing a niqab in Cambridge, Mass. last summer. One part of me knew it was her right, the other part was viscerally repelled. I think about it a lot, because it showed me I’m not as open minded as I’d like.

No matter when I see it, all I see is repression. Be it head scarf or full cover, it all reads as repression. I was at the airport in Detroit waiting for hubby to pick me up and it was about 98 degrees out. A whole Muslim family was waiting for someone and the man was wearing golf clothes (polo and lightweight pants and the women were all wearing long sleeves, long pants and head wear. I was angry.

Modest dress does not mean women have to cover up from head to toe because men cannot control their base urges (which is basically the reason why). It is nothing but repression and it angers me.

Of course, I would never say anything, it is their culture, but it really does piss me off.

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Testy Toad T  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:45:21pm

re: #74 dholmes32

I consider myself a very progressive person, but I came pretty close to losing it when I saw a woman wearing a niqab in Cambridge, Mass. last summer. One part of me knew it was her right, the other part was viscerally repelled. I think about it a lot, because it showed me I’m not as open minded as I’d like.

It’s her right. It’s not her husband’s or her imam’s.

I feel the same way when I see the occasional niqab (although hijabs don’t have anything like the effect). It’s really complicated.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:45:58pm

re: #56 calochortus

Not everyone can be as naturally beautiful as some of us.

Depends on where your natural beauty lies, IMO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:46:33pm

The article says no such thing.

jeebus…

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:47:33pm

re: #80 WhatEVs

No matter when I see it, all I see is repression. Be it head scarf or full cover, it all reads as repression. I was at the airport in Detroit waiting for hubby to pick me up and it was about 98 degrees out. A whole Muslim family was waiting for someone and the man was wearing golf clothes (polo and lightweight pants and the women were all wearing long sleeves, long pants and head wear. I was angry.

Modest dress does not mean women have to cover up from head to toe because men cannot control their base urges (which is basically the reason why). It is nothing but repression and it angers me.

Of course, I would never say anything, it is their culture, but it really does piss me off.

I see high heels as repression. I only say it here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:48:08pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

I see high heels as repression. I only say it here.

Heels, reason alone to be grateful to be a guy. I can’t imagine.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:50:01pm

re: #80 WhatEVs

No matter when I see it, all I see is repression. Be it head scarf or full cover, it all reads as repression. I was at the airport in Detroit waiting for hubby to pick me up and it was about 98 degrees out. A whole Muslim family was waiting for someone and the man was wearing golf clothes (polo and lightweight pants and the women were all wearing long sleeves, long pants and head wear. I was angry.

Modest dress does not mean women have to cover up from head to toe because men cannot control their base urges (which is basically the reason why). It is nothing but repression and it angers me.

Of course, I would never say anything, it is their culture, but it really does piss me off.

PUHLEEZ. You’re making assumptions based on very limited knowledge. I wear long skirts and long sleeves and I cover my hair. I’m American as were my parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents, so it’s not my culture, it’s my choice. If my choice pisses you off because you don’t understand it, that your problem—you’ll get over it evenrtually.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:50:32pm

re: #78 CuriousLurker

I think I’ve worn make up maybe a half a dozen times in my life. I HATE IT. It never looks right, it’s time consuming, and it makes me even more self conscious about my looks than I am without it. When I was a kid, I was never told I was pretty or cute or anything and no one ever bothered to show me how to use make up or apply it. Wearing make up never made me more pretty or anything, so what the hell is the point? Now that I’m in my 50s, I have pretty clear skin, never had clogged pores, hardly had more than a few pimples. I wear a moisturizer with sunscreen, tweeze my eyebrows sometimes and wear lip balm once in awhile. I’m not at all a girly girl, which kind of makes me sad sometimes, but it’s who I am. I’m not ever going to turn heads or be called beautiful, I’ve learned to be mostly ok with it, but I kind of feel like I’ve missed something sometimes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:50:35pm

re: #69 KGxvi

makes sense… Smith is the most reasonable person on Fox News, so no surprise Dim Jim doesn’t like him

Isn’t that kind of like being the smartest kid on the short bus?

(apologies if I offended anyone).

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:51:49pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

Depends on where your natural beauty lies, IMO.

Very few are as beautiful as me.

They should be thankful for that, I am U-UGly!

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:53:06pm

re: #89 b_sharp

Very few are as beautiful as me.

They should be thankful for that, I am U-UGly!

I beg to disagree—you’re quite beautiful sometimes. Other times, not so much. // ;-)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:53:06pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

I see high heels as repression. I only say it here.

I hate heels with a passion.

Actually, I hate most shoes. But especially heels. I cannot walk in them. I look like an idiot trying to walk in them.

I wear flip flops all the time, in part because they don’t give me blisters. Which 95% of other shoes do. But I’m “not professional” if I do that. So fuck yes, society has all kinds of stupid dictates about how women (and men) are supposed to look in order to be taken seriously. The ones that people choose for themselves are the ones that bother me the least.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:53:21pm

re: #87 A Mom Anon

I think I’ve worn make up maybe a half a dozen times in my life. I HATE IT. It never looks right, it’s time consuming, and it makes me even more self conscious about my looks than I am without it. When I was a kid, I was never told I was pretty or cute or anything and no one ever bothered to show me how to use make up or apply it. Wearing make up never made me more pretty or anything, so what the hell is the point? Now that I’m in my 50s, I have pretty clear skin, never had clogged pores, hardly had more than a few pimples. I wear a moisturizer with sunscreen, tweeze my eyebrows sometimes and wear lip balm once in awhile. I’m not at all a girly girl, which kind of makes me sad sometimes, but it’s who I am. I’m not ever going to turn heads or be called beautiful, I’ve learned to be mostly ok with it, but I kind of feel like I’ve missed something sometimes.

You’re gorgeous to us. We love your mind.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:53:34pm

re: #90 CuriousLurker

I beg to disagree—you’re quite beautiful sometimes. Other times, not so much. // ;-)

P.S. That goes for ALL of us, I think.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:53:58pm

re: #80 WhatEVs

No matter when I see it, all I see is repression. Be it head scarf or full cover, it all reads as repression. I was at the airport in Detroit waiting for hubby to pick me up and it was about 98 degrees out. A whole Muslim family was waiting for someone and the man was wearing golf clothes (polo and lightweight pants and the women were all wearing long sleeves, long pants and head wear. I was angry.

Modest dress does not mean women have to cover up from head to toe because men cannot control their base urges (which is basically the reason why). It is nothing but repression and it angers me.

Of course, I would never say anything, it is their culture, but it really does piss me off.

Are yarmulkes repression?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:54:34pm

re: #86 CuriousLurker

PUHLEEZ. You’re making assumptions based on very limited knowledge. I wear long skirts and long sleeves and I cover my hair. I’m American as were my parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents, so it’s not my culture, it’s my choice. If my choice pisses you off because you don’t understand it, that your problem—you’ll get over it evenrtually.

I always wear long sleeves, long pants, and cover my head with a hat or scarf, when out in public.
Always have.
It has nothing to do with religion, it’s just what I’ve always been comfortable with.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:54:34pm

re: #90 CuriousLurker

I beg to disagree—you’re quite beautiful sometimes. Other time, not so much. // ;-)

0_o

I have no idea how to deal with a complement.

My smartass is broken.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:54:37pm

Question for the ladies. I guess heels would feel like ice skates. Silly question I know ut the worst pain my feet have ever been in have been from skates. As a result, I haven’t ice skated in years

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:55:47pm

re: #94 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Are yarmulkes repression?

With a propeller on them they are beanies.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:56:22pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

I always wear long sleeves, long pants, and cover my head with a hat or scarf, when out in public.
Always have.
It has nothing to do with religion, it’s just what I’ve always been comfortable with.

I always wear a baklava … I mean balaclava.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:56:47pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Question for the ladies. I guess heels would feel like ice skates. Silly question I know ut the worst pain my feet have ever been in have been from skates. As a result, I haven’t ice skated in years

To me, they feel like trying to walk around on tip-toe all the time, with a platform/teeny spike to help with balance. Which rarely actually helps, but rather throws off my expectation of when my feet are going to hit the ground and how it will feel.

Sure, I could practice and probably get better, but I don’t see the point.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:56:50pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

I see high heels as repression. I only say it here.

re: #91 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I hate heels with a passion.

Actually, I hate most shoes. But especially heels. I cannot walk in them. I look like an idiot trying to walk in them.

I wear flip flops all the time, in part because they don’t give me blisters. Which 95% of other shoes do. But I’m “not professional” if I do that. So fuck yes, society has all kinds of stupid dictates about how women (and men) are supposed to look in order to be taken seriously. The ones that people choose for themselves are the ones that bother me the least.

My ex used to try to get me to wear heels all the time—until he got tired of catching me every time I tripped and almost fell. I never wear a hell of more than 1” (but I prefer flats) and all of my shoes except for my snow boots are slip ons. My favs are leather mules with low heels.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:57:38pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

The article says no such thing.

jeebus…

[Embedded content]

Yeah, it kinda does by the usual unsourced sources.

While congressional aides cautioned that the deal was far from certain, and the Treasury Department declined to comment, officials briefed on the negotiations said the emerging accord would call for cuts in spending on Medicare and Social Security disability benefits.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:57:45pm

re: #96 b_sharp

0_o

I have no idea how to deal with a complement.

My smartass is broken.

See, now you’re gorgeous! {{{b_sharp}}}

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:58:59pm

re: #24 calochortus

If the US decided that everyone had to go topless, I would feel pretty uncomfortable.

So would I, but it would encourage me to get back into shape, so this may be good public health policy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:59:03pm

re: #102 WhatEVs

Yeah, it kinda does by the usual unsourced sources.

That totally does NOT SAY that Obama is going to cut benefits for disabled people.
It doesn’t even imply it.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:59:21pm

re: #103 CuriousLurker

See, now you’re gorgeous! {{{b_sharp}}}

I’m now staring at my feet as I shuffle them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:59:34pm

re: #100 klys (maker of Silmarils)

To me, they feel like trying to walk around on tip-toe all the time, with a platform/teeny spike to help with balance. Which rarely actually helps, but rather throws off my expectation of when my feet are going to hit the ground and how it will feel.

Sure, I could practice and probably get better, but I don’t see the point.

Yeah it just sounds uncomfortable. Tip toe sounds better than ice skates. I guess I thought ice skates since skates have a certain slope to them. Thre’s nothing in men’s fashion like that. I mean I don’t like wearing ties but they’re not unbearably uncomfortable either.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:59:50pm

re: #91 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I hate heels with a passion.

Actually, I hate most shoes. But especially heels. I cannot walk in them. I look like an idiot trying to walk in them.

I wear flip flops all the time, in part because they don’t give me blisters. Which 95% of other shoes do. But I’m “not professional” if I do that. So fuck yes, society has all kinds of stupid dictates about how women (and men) are supposed to look in order to be taken seriously. The ones that people choose for themselves are the ones that bother me the least.

I keep the tops of my feet covered in case of a dropped tool or bike part. Or kitchen knife.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:59:56pm

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:00:15pm

OMG, it’s almost 4PM. I have to go finish this DVD cover.

BBL

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:00:24pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

I keep the tops of my feet covered in case of a dropped tool or bike part. Or kitchen knife.

I kept a pair of sneakers in the drawer at the office for when I was in the lab.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:01:46pm

re: #102 WhatEVs

Yeah, it kinda does by the usual unsourced sources.

But article doesn’t say which side of aisle is pushing for the cuts. And those cuts are part of the GOP platform, so which side would be more likely to push to put those cuts in there? So for now I call bullshit on Obama pushing for it, those are GOP planks.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:02:15pm

re: #111 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I kept a pair of sneakers in the drawer at the office for when I was in the lab.

I’ll bet five times more women than men have shoes in their desk drawers.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:02:40pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

I see high heels as repression. I only say it here.

And shaving legs and pits. I no longer wear heels because I am old and it hurts but I still shave.

Men are starting to feel the burn (no pun intended, considering….) with having to dye their beards and use botox. It’s still easier being a guy but maybe when they get sick of it…who knows.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:02:52pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

I keep the tops of my feet covered in case of a dropped tool or bike part. Or kitchen knife.

I have a tendency to drop things on my toes because I try to stop the descent of the object with my foot so it doesn’t break. Sometimes it’s a really stupid move.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:03:21pm

re: #113 wrenchwench

I’ll bet five times more women than men have shoes in their desk drawers.

Hopefully, sensible shoes.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:03:30pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I can’t wear them, they hurt. Since I’ve almost always had to look out for my own safety 24/7, to me they seem incredibly unsafe. Not to mention the Mom part of me that’s always on patrol. What if they got stuck in an escalator? What if you had to run out of a building that was on fire? What if you had to run from a dangerous situation or an attacker? I’ll just take my Chuck Taylor knockoffs thankyewverymuch.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:04:04pm

re: #63 John Vreeland

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:04:17pm

re: #86 CuriousLurker

PUHLEEZ. You’re making assumptions based on very limited knowledge. I wear long skirts and long sleeves and I cover my hair. I’m American as were my parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents, so it’s not my culture, it’s my choice. If my choice pisses you off because you don’t understand it, that your problem—you’ll get over it evenrtually.

Wearing a long skirt and lightweight long sleeves is far different than wearing what I saw them wearing. You’re right, it’s your choice. Not everyone has that choice.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:05:37pm

re: #115 b_sharp

I have a tendency to drop things on my toes because I try to stop the descent of the object with my foot so it doesn’t break. Sometimes it’s a really stupid move.

i hear you can git somma them steal toad boots if you dont mind stealing somebody else’s toads

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:05:53pm

re: #94 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Are yarmulkes repression?

Wearing a kippah is not covering yourself up because of cultural demands.

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unproven innocence  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:06:14pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

I see high heels as repression. I only say it here.

High heels worn in bed is not sexy. It is stupid and exceedingly dangerous, IMHO.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:06:19pm

re: #120 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i hear you can git somma them steal toad boots if you dont mind stealing somebody else’s toads

I’m not a big toad stealer.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:07:30pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

I knew as I was typing that it’d fall into the category of “damning with faint praise” but if I had to watch cable news (I don’t anymore and enjoy a much healthier outlook on life) and worse, was forced to deal with Fox News, Smith is about the only one I’d tolerate to the point of not throwing a brick through the screen.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:07:57pm

re: #123 b_sharp

all my toads are busy with wet sprockets.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:08:47pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

That totally does NOT SAY that Obama is going to cut benefits for disabled people.
It doesn’t even imply it.

If I read it that way many others did, too. What does it mean to “cuts in spending on Medicare and Social Security disability benefits”? That is how I would read it (right or wrong).

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:08:52pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

I keep the tops of my feet covered in case of a dropped tool or bike part. Or kitchen knife.

X-Acto kinfes here. A couple of weeks ago I bought some new ones because I managed yet again to stab myself with one (it rolled off the desk and landed point-down on the joint where my big toe joins my foot. Bled (and hurt) like crazy, but luckily didn’t require stitches or anything.

Now I have 3 new ones—one rubber coated one with a safety guard for the blade & a fin to stop it from rolling, and 2 of the Fiskars “fingertip” knives (one with a regular blade and the other with a little swivel blade). So far no new injures.

The kitchen? Very dangerous place. Knives. And a couple of years ago I managed to mangle a finger with one of those hand blenders (don’t ask). The finger still feels numb.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:09:04pm

re: #121 WhatEVs

Wearing a kippah is not covering yourself up because of cultural demands.

I’m just trying to figure out where something people choose to do for religious reasons becomes a cultural demand in your eyes.

Since clearly you’re very happy to make that judgement silently without having talked to any of the parties involved, seeing how you said it makes you see repression ANY TIME you see someone wearing a hijab and long sleeves/skirts.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:11:21pm

re: #127 CuriousLurker

I cut myself a couple of days ago on the blade of our mini food processor. Cute, but dangerous!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:12:12pm

re: #33 calochortus

I just can’t imagine caring whether a teacher wears a headscarf. I know it totally occupies the waking thoughts of many people, but really, what does it hurt?

The argument that was given in Germany is that an authority figure such as a teacher could be seen as embracing fundamentalist Islam.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:12:48pm

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m just trying to figure out where something people choose to do for religious reasons becomes a cultural demand in your eyes.

Since clearly you’re very happy to make that judgement silently without having talked to any of the parties involved, seeing how you said it makes you see repression ANY TIME you see someone wearing a hijab and long sleeves/skirts.

The difference IS choice.

The rest is my assumption…which is what I was initially responding to. I am sorry if I offended anyone with my own assumptions, but that’s how I feel.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:12:59pm

re: #117 A Mom Anon

I can’t wear them, they hurt. Since I’ve almost always had to look out for my own safety 24/7, to me they seem incredibly unsafe. Not to mention the Mom part of me that’s always on patrol. What if they got stuck in an escalator? What if you had to run out of a building that was on fire? What if you had to run from a dangerous situation or an attacker? I’ll just take my Chuck Taylor knockoffs thankyewverymuch.

I was reading this as if it was about ice skates. LOL.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:13:41pm

re: #119 WhatEVs

Wearing a long skirt and lightweight long sleeves is far different than wearing what I saw them wearing. You’re right, it’s your choice. Not everyone has that choice.

I’m well aware of that, but you’d do well to reserve judgement when you only have part of the picture. Or not—that too is a choice, isn’t it?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:13:55pm

so my question is how much fundie-ness-young-earth-xxtreme-pious-in-your-face-brane-surgeon are the wall st republic masters of the universe willing to swallow

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:14:20pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I cut myself a couple of days ago on the blade of our mini food processor. Cute, but dangerous!

The mini food processor is my favorite kitchen toy.

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vgranucci  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:15:00pm

re: #114 WhatEVs

And shaving legs and pits. I no longer wear heels because I am old and it hurts but I still shave.

Men are starting to feel the burn (no pun intended, considering….) with having to dye their beards and use botox. It’s still easier being a guy but maybe when they get sick of it…who knows.

I mostly gave up heels several years ago. I still have a pair or two for those occasions when they are absolutely necessary. As for shaving, menopause seems to have solved that for me.

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Nojay UK  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:15:29pm

re: #127 CuriousLurker

X-Acto kinfes here. A couple of weeks ago I bought some new ones because I managed yet again to stab myself with one (it rolled off the desk and landed point-down on the joint where my big toe joins my foot. Bled (and hurt) like crazy, but luckily didn’t require stitches or anything.

I saw something in a tool store a while back, it was a craft/work knife with a retractable blade. The neat thing was that the blade was locked in the out position by a safety lever on the grip. If the user let go of the knife, put it down or whatever the blade automatically retracted back into the handle. It was probably fast enough that if it was dropped the blade would retract before it hit your foot.

I didn’t offer to test it that far.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:16:02pm

re: #127 CuriousLurker

X-Acto kinfes here. A couple of weeks ago I bought some new ones because I managed yet again to stab myself with one (it rolled off the desk and landed point-down on the joint where my big toe joins my foot. Bled (and hurt) like crazy, but luckily didn’t require stitches or anything.

Now I have 3 new ones—one rubber coated one with a safety guard for the blade & a fin to stop it from rolling, and 2 of the Fiskars “fingertip” knives (one with a regular blade and the other with a little swivel blade). So far no new injures.

The kitchen? Very dangerous place. Knives. And a couple of years ago I managed to mangle a finger with one of those hand blenders (don’t ask). The finger still feels numb.

My hands get beat up more than my feet. Smashed my thumb with a sledge hammer & cut the tips off of two fingers with a table saw.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:16:08pm

re: #135 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The mini food processor is my favorite kitchen toy.

I thought I burnt the motor once. It was IN THE TRASH. I forget how I thought to try it again.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:16:25pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I cut myself a couple of days ago on the blade of our mini food processor. Cute, but dangerous!

Added protein in the meal.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:16:55pm

re: #132 wrenchwench

LOL, they might as well be ice skates, ha.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:17:24pm

re: #140 b_sharp

Added protein in the meal.

Chef Salad, now with extra Chef.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:17:25pm

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The argument that was given in Germany is that an authority figure such as a teacher could be seen as embracing fundamentalist Islam.

That’s absurd, especially when talking about a headscarf where the face is uncovered. I wonder if they’d apply the same rules to Orthodox Jewish women or men teaching in a school…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:18:08pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

That’s absurd, especially when talking about a headscarf where the face is uncovered. I wonder if they’d apply the same rules to Orthodox Jewish women or men teaching in a school…

Or teachers wearing crosses, etc.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:18:45pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I cut myself a couple of days ago on the blade of our mini food processor. Cute, but dangerous!

re: #135 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The mini food processor is my favorite kitchen toy.

I finally gave away my mini Cuisinart one and bought a full size one about a year and a half ago. It’s very, very scary.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:19:43pm

re: #136 vgranucci

I mostly gave up heels several years ago. I still have a pair or two for those occasions when they are absolutely necessary. As for shaving, menopause seems to have solved that for me.

Menopause didn’t solve the shaving thing for me (as my mom claimed it did for her) but being restrained from sharp objects for a while did, and I couldn’t think of a reason to start up again.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:20:09pm

re: #131 WhatEVs

The difference IS choice.

The rest is my assumption…which is what I was initially responding to. I am sorry if I offended anyone with my own assumptions, but that’s how I feel.

I think the reason you got the pushback you did is in part because your assumption denies the woman any agency in her decision. Your default assumption is, from what you told us, that because they are Muslim, they are only doing it because they are being forced to.

Would you have the same reaction to a woman who is a stay-at-home mom? An Amish woman who also observes modest dress? An Orthodox Jewish woman? A professional woman who is always turned out perfectly with make-up, hair, and heels? You could argue equally that all of these are some form of repression.

Just some food for thought.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:20:58pm
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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:21:42pm

re: #146 wrenchwench

Menopause didn’t solve the shaving thing for me (as my mom claimed it did for her) but being restrained from sharp objects for a while did, and I couldn’t think of a reason to start up again.

I’m contemplating giving up shaving too.

My head seems to be growing less hair all the time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:22:01pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

I finally gave away my mini Cuisinart one and bought a full size one about a year and a half ago. It’s very, very scary.

I have the full size one and I don’t use it nearly as often because it is a bigger pain to clean and I don’t need the capacity most of the time.

But the little one means I never have to chop garlic by hand again HOORAY. Also great for salad dressings and tapenades and chopping more garlic.

It probably is useful perspective to note that when I put garlic in something, we are typically talking a minimum of 8 cloves.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:22:02pm

re: #138 b_sharp

My hands get beat up more than my feet. Smashed my thumb with a sledge hammer & cut the tips off of two fingers with a table saw.

Ouch, my dad (a carpenter) did that with one of his fingers. He was always smashing his thumbs and stepping on nails & stuff. He had a really high pain threshold though—I saw him step on a long nail sticking out of a board once and he just cursed, lifted his foot, yanked the board & nail out and kept right on working. O_o

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Lidane  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:22:16pm

re: #74 dholmes32

There’s a girl in my area that I’ve seen on my way to work in the mornings. She wears a full niqab. It caught me off guard the first couple of times I saw her but the last time, she had a group of girlfriends call to her and run to join her at the bus stop she was waiting at. All the girls who ran to meet her looked just like any other high school or college kids. Their body language showed they accepted it, so I realized that my biases were showing through.

I don’t understand it, since most of the Muslim women I see daily wear a hijab with regular clothing, but it’s not my place to tell that girl she’s bad or evil for wearing it. She’s clearly comfortable with it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:23:42pm

Lathes. Lathes are fucking terrifying pieces of equipment.

I once made the mistake of turning it on with my hand in a spot it shouldn’t have been. I got very, very lucky and only had minor cuts.

And that’s even before we get to the dangers of long hair with lathes.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:25:05pm

*Note to self, Stay out of these people’s homes, they are deathtraps*

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:25:18pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Obama LOVES Muslims!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:25:58pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

That’s absurd, especially when talking about a headscarf where the face is uncovered. I wonder if they’d apply the same rules to Orthodox Jewish women or men teaching in a school…

Actually that is one reason that the decision against Muslima teachers wearing headscarves in public schools was overturned…

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:26:00pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think the reason you got the pushback you did is in part because your assumption denies the woman any agency in her decision. Your default assumption is, from what you told us, that because they are Muslim, they are only doing it because they are being forced to.

Would you have the same reaction to a woman who is a stay-at-home mom? An Amish woman who also observes modest dress? An Orthodox Jewish woman? A professional woman who is always turned out perfectly with make-up, hair, and heels? You could argue equally that all of these are some form of repression.

Just some food for thought.

I get it. I totally get it. I cannot help that that is my knee-jerk reaction to seeing that specific scene, or any time I see a man with women who are covered but the guy is not. Until all women are given the choice of what they want to wear, that is likely going to be my default reaction because all I see is men who cannot control their libido and women who have to do it for them.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:26:57pm

re: #151 CuriousLurker

Ouch, my dad (a carpenter) did that with one of his fingers. He was always smashing his thumbs and stepping on nails & stuff. He had a really high pain threshold though—I saw him step on a long nail sticking out of a board once and he just cursed, lifted his foot, yanked the board & nail out and kept right on working. O_o

That’s what I did when I smashed my thumb. I wrapped a paper towel around it to catch the blood & continued to work.

When I went to get stitches put in 3 days later the doctor gave me shit.

I get that a lot for some reason.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:27:23pm

I used to work in a little rubber factory and handle hot molds and such. Over the years I built up callouses and tolerance to heat. One Thanksgiving I burned my brother in law’s hand when I greeted him by shaking his hand because I wasn’t using pot holders.
It’s been three tears and I still have callouses on the sides of my fingers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:27:23pm

re: #157 WhatEVs

I get it. I totally get it. I cannot help that that is my knee-jerk reaction to seeing that specific scene, or any time I see a man with women who are covered but the guy is not. Until all women are given the choice of what they want to wear, that is likely going to be my default reaction because all I see is men who cannot control their libido and women who have to do it for them.

And just because a woman wears a headscarf does not mean that she embraces Fundamentalist Islam.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:27:44pm

re: #154 Varek Raith

*Note to self, Stay out of these people’s homes, they are deathtraps*

There were ~33,000 injuries related to toilets in the US in 2008.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:27:52pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The first amendment doesn’t apply to all religions, only Christians!”

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:28:08pm

re: #153 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Lathes. Lathes are fucking terrifying pieces of equipment.

I once made the mistake of turning it on with my hand in a spot it shouldn’t have been. I got very, very lucky and only had minor cuts.

And that’s even before we get to the dangers of long hair with lathes.

Yes. This.

Never, ever, ever leave the key in the chuck and turn it on.

Ever.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:28:29pm

re: #138 b_sharp

My hands get beat up more than my feet. Smashed my thumb with a sledge hammer & cut the tips off of two fingers with a table saw.

You’re qualified to teach wood shop in high schools now.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:28:29pm

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And just because a woman wears a headscarf does not mean that she embraces Fundamentalist Islam.

Good god, of course not! I hope that wasn’t insinuated in anything I wrote. I was strictly talking about men and women and equality. Nothing more.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:28:34pm

re: #152 Lidane

There’s a girl in my area that I’ve seen on my way to work in the mornings. She wears a full niqab. It caught me off guard the first couple of times I saw her but the last time, she had a group of girlfriends call to her and run to join her at the bus stop she was waiting at. All the girls who ran to meet her looked just like any other high school or college kids. Their body language showed they accepted it, so I realized that my biases were showing through.

I don’t understand it, since most of the Muslim women I see daily wear a hijab with regular clothing, but it’s not my place to tell that girl she’s bad or evil for wearing it. She’s clearly comfortable with it.

I’ve met lots of woman that like to wear it, choose to wear it. It’s not for me though. It’s not easy to get used to seeing it, even for me, because it’s so different from anything we’re accustomed to. Back in Texas sometimes little old Mexican ladies used to just mistake me for a nun and call me “sister”—I kid you not. ;-)

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:28:55pm

Working with my various models, I get various nicks and cuts on my hands from the xacto knives and other shaping tools I use all the time.

Luckily, I have superglue and instaset readily at hand.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:29:39pm

re: #162 Belafon

“The first amendment doesn’t apply to all religions, only Christians!”

We are a Christian Nation (TM)

/

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:29:46pm

re: #167 Kragar

Working with my various models, I get various nicks and cuts on my hands from the xacto knives and other shaping tools I use all the time.

Luckily, I have superglue and instaset readily at hand.

Superglue works great.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:30:16pm

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And just because a woman wears a headscarf does not mean that she embraces Fundamentalist Islam.

THIS. I’m about as far from a fundie as you can get and I wear one.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:30:21pm

re: #127 CuriousLurker

X-Acto kinfes here. A couple of weeks ago I bought some new ones because I managed yet again to stab myself with one (it rolled off the desk and landed point-down on the joint where my big toe joins my foot. Bled (and hurt) like crazy, but luckily didn’t require stitches or anything.

I had exactly that injury a few(!) years ago; I couldn’t take my hands off the work to back away, and managed to dodge right into the spot the point fell.

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Testy Toad T  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:30:37pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think the reason you got the pushback you did is in part because your assumption denies the woman any agency in her decision. Your default assumption is, from what you told us, that because they are Muslim, they are only doing it because they are being forced to.

Would you have the same reaction to a woman who is a stay-at-home mom? An Amish woman who also observes modest dress? An Orthodox Jewish woman? A professional woman who is always turned out perfectly with make-up, hair, and heels? You could argue equally that all of these are some form of repression.

Just some food for thought.

It’s easy to forget or fail to ascribe agency to a person who is in a specific sense quite literally dehumanized, as in you can’t see their face or their expressions or their smile or the glow in the eye.

Maybe not a good reaction, but an understandable one. We’re visual and social creatures.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:31:28pm

What the fuck??

rawstory.com

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:31:32pm

re: #153 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Lathes. Lathes are fucking terrifying pieces of equipment.

I once made the mistake of turning it on with my hand in a spot it shouldn’t have been. I got very, very lucky and only had minor cuts.

And that’s even before we get to the dangers of long hair with lathes.

Grinding wheels, too. I worked with a guy whose family when he was growing up had a grinding wheel factory, so I heard stories about the wheels flying apart at high speeds. I don’t have one here. Nothing that I’d need a grinding wheel for that I can’t do with a file.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:31:42pm

re: #170 CuriousLurker

THIS. I’m about as far form a fundie as you can get and I wear one.

What? I thought you were a plant, sent to lull us into a false sense of complacency. ///

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:32:40pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

Grinding wheels, too. I worked with a guy whose family when he was growing up had a grinding wheel factory, so I heard stories about the wheels flying apart at high speeds. I don’t have one here. Nothing that I’d need a grinding wheel for that I can’t do with a file.

Ooooo, when centrifuges fail at speed, that’s also terrifying. Like, let me be about 4 buildings over terrifying, please.

At least the biggest hazard if the magnets failed (quenched) was suffocation.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:32:49pm

re: #175 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What? I thought you were a plant, sent to lull us into a false sense of complacency. ///

If she’s a plant, she’s a rose.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:32:57pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, one really has to wonder how many suits of this kind would be filed (or even considered) under a Republican-Adminstration DoJ?

re: #162 Belafon

“The first amendment doesn’t apply to all religions, only Christians!”

You snark here, but I’m sure that if polled, a depressing number of our fellow-citizens would agree to that sentiment….

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:34:16pm

re: #177 b_sharp

If she’s a plant, she’s a rose.

Dude, that was corny.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:34:40pm

BREAKING — (Reuters) Presidential candidate Donald Trump has stopped wearing his trademark “Make American Great Again” cap. “Travelling around the country and meeting my supporters,” says the GOP front-runner, “it’s become obvious to me that this country was never great and will never be great. Face it, it’s one huge shithole and everybody should just die already.”

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:35:20pm

re: #179 Varek Raith

Dude, that was corny.

And a little thorny.

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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:36:00pm

re: #179 Varek Raith

Dude, that was corny.

MAN YOU CORNY!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:36:16pm

re: #181 b_sharp

And a little thorny.

I’m gonna stop the rhyming game right here.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:36:31pm

The health care biz is transitioning from ICD-9 to ICD-10 codes, which are classifications of diagnoses and conditions, with -10 being far more specific than -9. Some of the things that are included in -10 that aren’t in -9 are:
V97.33X sucked into jet engine, initial encounter; 33D is for subsequent encounters
Y93.D: Activities involved arts and handcrafts
Y92.146: Swimming-pool of prison as the place of occurrence of the external cause
W61.62XA: Struck by duck, initial encounter
W22.02XD: V95.43XS: Spacecraft collision injuring occupant, sequela.
R46.1: Bizarre personal appearance.

Just in case you need help with your workers’ comp claim.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:36:42pm

re: #183 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m gonna stop the rhyming game right here.

Chicken.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:36:54pm

re: #165 WhatEVs

Good god, of course not! I hope that wasn’t insinuated in anything I wrote. I was strictly talking about men and women and equality. Nothing more.

The thing is, hijab isn’t that simplistic (i.e. it’s not solely about men’s libido). Did you know that half of hijab is for the man to lower his gaze? I’ll bet you didn’t. There’s lots more to it, it’s not a binary thing. Maybe if you made an effort to educate yourself about it more you would understand it better and not have such a strong negative reaction. Or don’t, it’s totally up to you.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:37:08pm

re: #183 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m gonna stop the rhyming game right here.

It’s almost as if you knew where he would go with it.
/

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:37:08pm

Comment from The Globe article.

nagej10/26/15 12:14 PM
“What the heck are people THINKING?” Did you really ask that question? Do you actually believe “thinking” has anything to do with 40% (or more) of the Republican Party supporting the candidacy of an inexperienced, policy-ignorant, bloviating, xenophobic, insult-hurling, pompous, ego-maniacal reality TV star for its nominee as President of the United States? “Thinking”, my friend, has absolutely nothing to do with it. This is pure “Id”, plain and simple — anger, cultural resentment, and a 45-year build-up of mindless, anti-government hostility, all coming together in a perfect storm of visceral, nihilistic rage and venom. I share your embarrassment, but it’s the bed they’ve been making for more than 2 generations now, and this is what it has come to: Donald J. Trump is the face and heart and soul of the Republican Party.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:37:10pm

re: #91 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I hate heels with a passion.

Actually, I hate most shoes. But especially heels. I cannot walk in them. I look like an idiot trying to walk in them.

I always tell the story of when we were vacationing in New Orleans and visiting the Garden District, and I told my wife I was scared that the horrible sidewalks might not be a good place to wear heels. To placate me, my wife wore sneakers - and three steps off the damn streetcar, she turned her ankle.

My wife love her heels, and she’s incredibly graceful in them. I look at some of her shoes and figure if I had to wear them I’d just be breaking one ankle after another.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:38:33pm

re: #167 Kragar

Working with my various models, I get various nicks and cuts on my hands from the xacto knives and other shaping tools I use all the time.

Luckily, I have superglue and instaset readily at hand.

You should try using a camera.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:38:38pm

re: #177 b_sharp

If she’s a plant, she’s a rose.

Awwww…. *blush*

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:38:44pm

I hate pants.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:38:52pm

re: #189 makeitstop

I always tell the story of when we were vacationing in New Orleans and visiting the Garden District, and I told my wife I was scared that the horrible sidewalks might not be a good place to wear heels. To placate me, my wife wore sneakers - and three steps off the damn streetcar, she turned her ankle.

My wife love her heels, and she’s incredibly graceful in them. I look at some of her shoes and figure if I had to wear them I’d just be breaking one ankle after another.

I know there are women who love them and make them look damn good, and more power to them!

I just resent that society expects me to be that sort of a woman in a large number of professional or social contexts. It’s not happening.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:38:52pm

Nothing beats portable industrial X-ray imagers with poorly translated Chinese documentation for sheer terror inducing potential.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:39:04pm

re: #170 CuriousLurker

THIS. I’m about as far form a fundie as you can get and I wear one.

Some Germans just did not like the idea of Muslima teachers in the first place, I fear.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:39:29pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Nothing beats portable industrial X-ray imagers with poorly translated Chinese documentation for sheer terror inducing potential.

Ooooo, do they come with safety diagrams that look like dance moves?

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:40:02pm

re: #184 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

V97.33X sucked into jet engine, initial encounter; 33X is for subsequent encounters

Why do get the feeling that the “subsequent encounters” code is going to be used very infrequently???

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:40:44pm

Fox “Insiders” daily encouragement to scoff at Mainstream media.
It’s a cult.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:40:46pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Nothing beats portable industrial X-ray imagers with poorly translated Chinese documentation for sheer terror inducing potential.

I remember the instructions for one of those chemical heat packs: “Gentry separate the two halves”.

But what are the common folk to do?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:40:46pm
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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:40:58pm

re: #196 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ooooo, do they come with safety diagrams that look like dance moves?

Men Without Hats - The Safety Dance

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:41:08pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think the reason you got the pushback you did is in part because your assumption denies the woman any agency in her decision. Your default assumption is, from what you told us, that because they are Muslim, they are only doing it because they are being forced to.

Would you have the same reaction to a woman who is a stay-at-home mom? An Amish woman who also observes modest dress? An Orthodox Jewish woman? A professional woman who is always turned out perfectly with make-up, hair, and heels? You could argue equally that all of these are some form of repression.

Just some food for thought.

The whole point of Feminism has always been that women should make their own choices - something anti-Feminists have misunderstood or mis-portrayed. It’s not that a Feminist can’t be a stay-at-home Mom, or dress scantily, or work in one of those fields historically reserved for women. It’s that she can choose not to.

Basically, I have a problem with any belief system, religious or otherwise, that would limit a woman’s options.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:42:05pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oooh, he looks like a lil hummingbird.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:42:14pm

re: #198 jaunte

Fox “Insiders” daily encouragement to scoff at Mainstream media.
It’s a cult.

[Embedded content]

Any idea what the email actually is?

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Black Skeleton d20  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:42:46pm

re: #184 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Are those real? I touched on ICD-9 waybackwhen in another job (fed worker’s comp), and… I’m not sure I can tell either way.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:42:47pm

re: #201 TedStriker

[Embedded content]

Video

Oh, the irony. That video from a Canadian group is not available in Canada.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:42:55pm

re: #197 Jay C

Why do get the feeling that the “subsequent encounters” code is going to be used very infrequently???

Sorry, 33D was for subsequent encounters. I guess the deal with ICD-10 is that it would be very searchable for detailed conditions, assuming the people who do the coding are sufficiently motivated to seek out the right code. (ahem)

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:43:58pm

re: #204 Belafon

Any idea what the email actually is?

Something tortuously mined I suspect.

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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:44:18pm

re: #206 b_sharp

Oh, the irony. That video from a Canadian group is not available in Canada.

Try this one:

Safety Dance - Men Without Hats Official Video

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:45:12pm

re: #204 Belafon

They’re still trying to gin up a scandal over the fact that some people thought the attack in Benghazi came as a result of demonstrations over that propaganda video, and the intelligence assessment later changed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:46:02pm

re: #198 jaunte

Fox “Insiders” daily encouragement to scoff at Mainstream media.
It’s a cult.

Embedded Image

I love how Fox tries to act as if they’re not MSM yet they constantly brag about how popular they are.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:46:16pm

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We are a Judeo-Christian Nation (TM)

/

FTFY—you always have to remember to say Judeo-Christian—they don’t want to make Jews nervous about that whole End Times conversion thing. //

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:46:48pm

re: #210 jaunte

They’re still trying to gin up a scandal over the fact that some people thought the attack in Benghazi came as a result of demonstrations over that propaganda video, and the intelligence assessment later changed.

Thanks. I was wondering if it was something more specific than “You know, thaaaat email.”

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:47:10pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I need to post some of the full page ads they run on the back cover of Adweek. They tell a completely different story there.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:47:20pm

re: #212 CuriousLurker

FTFY—you always have to remember to say Judeo-Christian—they don’t want to make Jews nervous about that whole End Times conversion thing. //

I think the only people who actually buy the Jude-Christian stuff are conservative Protestants. .

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:47:53pm

re: #205 Black Skeleton d20

There were around 13,000 ICD9 codes, and around 68,000 ICD10s.
Quick example, for a foot ulceration you chose between 707.14 (foot) and 707.15 (toe).
Now, not only do you have to choose the site, but there are different codes for right and left, and the severity of the wound. Those two codes are replaced with 16 codes.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:48:51pm

re: #173 b_sharp

What the fuck??

rawstory.com

Ok, I have to leave the internet for a while.

Not only does this asshole espouse that while a woman might give in to having sex when she doesn’t want to, if her face isn’t glowing with appreciation, love and wontonness, a woman is withholding emotional love to go along with that sex - which makes it proper for the man to not look at the woman during sex as emotional retribution.

And this from the same guy.

In a column earlier this year, Solomon insisted that there was “no such thing as marital rape.” A wife, he said, could ask her husband to delay sex for a short period of time but the request “must be done humbly and respectfully, and always with the attitude in mind that her body does belong to her husband.”

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:49:26pm

re: #184 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The health care biz is transitioning from ICD-9 to ICD-10 codes, which are classifications of diagnoses and conditions, with -10 being far more specific than -9. Some of the things that are included in -10 that aren’t in -9 are:
V97.33X sucked into jet engine, initial encounter; 33D is for subsequent encounters
Y93.D: Activities involved arts and handcrafts
Y92.146: Swimming-pool of prison as the place of occurrence of the external cause
W61.62XA: Struck by duck, initial encounter
W22.02XD: V95.43XS: Spacecraft collision injuring occupant, sequela.
R46.1: Bizarre personal appearance.

Just in case you need help with your workers’ comp claim.

My wife is studying ICD-10. I’ll have to give her that list.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:50:49pm

In English we use the direct article “the” and the indirect article “a”. I remember in German there were I think 6 different words for the (der, die, das, des, dem, den) and another bunch for “a” (ein, eine, eines, einer, einen, einem) according to the gender (not biological), case and number.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:51:49pm

OT a bit but not totally since we are a political blog after all but I finallly saw Outage, the documentary about closeted politicians. It’s a little dated since the politicians featured on there have since retired and the epilogue that describes Charlie Crist as a 2012 GOP frontrunner has since not happened due to Rubio successfully primarying Charlie and Charlie switching to the Democratic Party. I have to admit that in the past, I had a problem with outting but the activists interviewed in the docu made some good points. If these guys are going to be voting against gay people or involved in a party that is while having gay affairs themselves then yeah.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:51:51pm

In Milwaukee growing up, many many Babushka’s wore headscarves around here. It was part of the landscape.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:52:17pm

re: #212 CuriousLurker

FTFY—you always have to remember to say Judeo-Christian—they don’t want to make Jews nervous about that whole End Times conversion thing. //

Funny, I heard we were an extremest secularist nation of atheocommies.
Or some such.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:53:12pm

re: #221 Amory Blaine

In Milwaukee growing up, many many Babushka’s wore headscarves around here. It was part of the landscape.

There’s a photo, in fact te only photo I’ve ever seen of my grandfather’s grandmother nad she’s wearing one. I wish we still had that photo. It’s quite remarkable that it existed since I never even saw any photos of my grandfather’s parents.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:55:07pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

The whole point of Feminism has always been that women should make their own choices - something anti-Feminists have misunderstood or mis-portrayed. It’s not that a Feminist can’t be a stay-at-home Mom, or dress scantily, or work in one of those fields historically reserved for women. It’s that she can choose not to.

Basically, I have a problem with any belief system, religious or otherwise, that would limit a woman’s options.

The weirdest part tot me is that while we’re urged to wear hijab, it’s not mandatory—i.e. not mandatory in the sense that there’s any sort of Shariah-based punishment on the books for it. I know this because I’ve looked for it and asked scholars about it (because of the places like Iran & Saudi Arabia that force women to wear it).

No one has ever been able to provide me any example of it being somehow “criminal” not to wear it. It simply isn’t there unless, as I assume they do in the countries that require it, some scholars get together and twist things into a logical pretzel to come up with a new “law” that suits them.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:55:09pm

re: #221 Amory Blaine

In Milwaukee growing up, many many Babushka’s wore headscarves around here. It was part of the landscape.

Growing up in the 60’s pretty much all the women in my families catholic church wore at least hats, but most wore scarves for all services. Started not being such a thing come the 70’s.

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Black Skeleton d20  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:57:02pm

re: #216 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Welp, that just broke my brain a little more.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:57:15pm

Many women didn’t drive in the old days and so they took the bus a lot with their little grocery carts in tow. They also tucked used handkerchiefs under their sleeves. :p

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:57:56pm

re: #225 Eventual Carrion

Growing up in the 60’s pretty much all the women in my families catholic church wore at least hats, but most wore scarves for all services. Started not being such a thing come the 70’s.

Back in the day all women were to cover their heads when entering a church. I don’t know when it changed. My head quit entering churches in the 70’s.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:58:07pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:58:14pm

re: #216 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

There were around 13,000 ICD9 codes, and around 68,000 ICD10s.
Quick example, for a foot ulceration you chose between 707.14 (foot) and 707.15 (toe).
Now, not only do you have to choose the site, but there are different codes for right and left, and the severity of the wound. Those two codes are replaced with 16 codes.

Is this even English???
/

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:59:27pm

re: #227 Amory Blaine

Many women didn’t drive in the old days and so they took the bus a lot with their little grocery carts in tow. They also tucked used handkerchiefs under their sleeves. :p

Mom did that! It’s not just a Wisconsin thing, is it?

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 1:59:59pm

re: #229 Kragar

Thrown on the floor for refusing to obey?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:00:57pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

Mom did that! It’s not just a Wisconsin thing, is it?

No, unless it’s also a Missouri thing.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:00:58pm

re: #225 Eventual Carrion

re: #228 wrenchwench

Same here. When I went to church with my mom & grandma as a kid, we always covered our hair with those lace thingies (mantilla is the only word that comes to mind right now).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:01:06pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t forget bridges too!

2 MILLION BATS Austin Texas

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:01:09pm

re: #232 jaunte

Thrown on the floor for refusing to obey?

Choked, thrown on the floor, and dragged across the class for the crime of …..?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:01:32pm

re: #232 jaunte

Thrown on the floor for refusing to obey?

Cartman all grown up and back on patrol in school. RESPECT MY AUTHORITI!

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:01:41pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

you’re either getting radiation poisoning or you’re getting super powers… that seems like a gamble worth taking.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:01:42pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

Back in the day all women were to cover their heads when entering a church. I don’t know when it changed. My head quit entering churches in the 70’s.

Mine quit in 1969 after being confirmed as a Lutheran. I did it for my dad because at that time I was already an atheist.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:02:07pm

re: #234 CuriousLurker

Same here. When I went to church with my mom & grandma as a kid, we always covered our hair with those lace thingies (mantilla is the only word that comes to mind right now).

That’s what we had, mantillas.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:02:20pm

re: #229 Kragar

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WTF?

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:02:25pm

re: #236 Kragar

Maybe they should test that guy for steroids.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:03:20pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

IDK. Growing up I thought EVERYBODY did it, could be a local thing though.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:04:27pm

re: #243 Amory Blaine

IDK. Growing up I thought EVERYBODY did it, could be a local thing though.

I grew up in PA and many older women did it, as did my grandma.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:05:01pm

re: #232 jaunte

Thrown on the floor for refusing to obey?

For refusing to leave class:

Spring Valley High School officials and Richland County sheriff’s deputies are investigating after a video supposedly taken at the high school shows a confrontation between a female student and the school’s resource officer.

School officials confirm the incident happened on Monday, but stopped short of releasing further details.

According to Sheriff Leon Lott, the school resource officer was acting in response to a student who was refusing to leave class.

“The student was told she was under arrest for disturbing school and given instructions which she again refused,” Lott said. “The video then shows the student resisting and being arrested by the SRO.”

wistv.com

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:05:08pm

Oh gawd, you people! I just wasted another hour because of you. Gotta run for reals this time, so nobody say anything interesting or controversial, mkay?

//

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:06:12pm

re: #246 CuriousLurker

Oh gawd, you people! I just wasted another hour because of you. Gotta run for reals this time, so nobody say anything interesting or controversial, mkay?

//

Yah, blame us..

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:07:23pm

re: #198 jaunte

Fox “Insiders” daily encouragement to scoff at Mainstream media.
It’s a cult.

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BOMBSHELL EMAIL!!!!! Sid emailed Hillary, sent her an EMAIL!!!!111

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:07:24pm

re: #246 CuriousLurker

Oh gawd, you people! I just wasted another hour because of you. Gotta run for reals this time, so nobody say anything interesting or controversial, mkay?

//

Oh, the temptation….

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Jenner7  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:08:18pm

Hmm, I guess I can’t comment on Shaun King’s FB posts anymore. That’s weird. It might be when he posted bullshit about vaccine’s and I told him to stop spreading misinformation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:08:40pm

re: #248 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

BOMBSHELL EMAIL!!!!! Sid emailed Hillary, sent her an EMAIL!!!!111

I bet it’s the one where she said, “Yeah, it looks like it was an attack, not a demonstration”, or something, because of course if it were an attack Romney would have won because of mumblemumblemumble….

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:10:28pm

re: #245 Timothy Watson

under arrest for “disturbing school”? What was she actually accused of doing? Because that seems a rather vague claim. Singing loudly in the hallways while others are in class could be disturbing the school, but that’s not worth being arrested or tossed like that. Hell, short of pulling a weapon on someone in school, nothing I can think of deserves that kind of treatment.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:10:35pm

re: #245 Timothy Watson

According to Sheriff Leon Lott, the school resource officer was acting in response to a student who was refusing to leave class.

He may need some training in how to manage high school students.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:11:21pm

re: #253 jaunte

He may need some training in how to manage high school students.

Good guys with guns = increased school safety

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:11:29pm

re: #244 Eventual Carrion

I grew up in PA and many older women did it, as did my grandma.

I think it’s a thing of older devout women from a certain generation. Not sure though. So few photos out there of older female relatives. But I do remember seeing photos of Ireland where the older women would cover their heads too.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:11:54pm

Wow, the colors.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:12:43pm

re: #253 jaunte

He may need some training in how to manage high school students.

He needs to find a line of work that doesn’t give him any authority over anyone. Fry cook, for instance, or Courtesy Clerk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:12:45pm

re: #240 wrenchwench

That’s what we had, mantillas.

And, in a pinch, park a doily on your head.
srsly…

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No Depression  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:13:09pm

re: #245 Timothy Watson

For refusing to leave class:

wistv.com

Getting arrested and thrown to the floor for “disturbing school”? What the fuck ever happened to giving students warnings or detention for acting up?

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Timothy Watson  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:13:13pm

re: #252 KGxvi

under arrest for “disturbing school”? What was she actually accused of doing? Because that seems a rather vague claim. Singing loudly in the hallways while others are in class could be disturbing the school, but that’s not worth being arrested or tossed like that. Hell, short of pulling a weapon on someone in school, nothing I can think of deserves that kind of treatment.

No argument here, and “resisting arrest” usually requires the use of force to stop an arrest, not just sitting there and ignoring an officer’s commands.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:14:24pm

re: #252 KGxvi

under arrest for “disturbing school”? What was she actually accused of doing? Because that seems a rather vague claim. Singing loudly in the hallways while others are in class could be disturbing the school, but that’s not worth being arrested or tossed like that. Hell, short of pulling a weapon on someone in school, nothing I can think of deserves that kind of treatment.

Think of all the reasons to chokeslam a student sitting in class and….

I got nothing

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:15:06pm

re: #245 Timothy Watson

Since when is “disturbing school” a freaking law you can break anyway? That would mean someone laughing in the hall could be busted for “disturbing school”. The more I see shit like this the more I hope I’ll be able to afford private school for the kids I hope to one day have.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:15:16pm

re: #260 Timothy Watson

No argument here, and “resisting arrest” usually requires the use of force to stop an arrest, not just sitting there and ignoring an officer’s commands.

You hear stories from black people about being pinioned by cops while not resisting at all, and hearing ‘Stop resisting!’, and KNOWING that’s the excuse given for brutality up to and including shooting, being scared our of their minds.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:15:34pm

checking Shaun King’s twitter time line, apparently this cop has a history… including using physical force against a pregnant woman.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:15:50pm

re: #229 Kragar

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What the fuck was that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:16:18pm

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

What the fuck was that?

making an example for others to fear

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:17:31pm

cuteness overload…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:17:45pm

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

making an example for others to fear

Evidently. Cops scare the shit out of me.

There is literally no one that can put a check on their power. NO ONE.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:18:37pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:19:15pm

You want to know what spreads contempt for authority like a mother-fucking yeast infection? When officers violently grapple, choke and throw people around by their goddamned necks for the crime of non-violent disobedience.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:20:28pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

You want to know what spreads contempt for authority like a mother-fucking yeast infection? When officers violently grapple, choke and throw black people around by their goddamned necks for the crime of non-violent disobedience.

FTFY.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:21:20pm

Step 1: Get caught on video slamming a high school kid to the floor of her classroom.
Step 2: Same day, delete your twitter and facebook accounts.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:21:59pm

re: #272 jaunte

Step 1: Get caught on video slamming a high school kid to the floor of her classroom.
Step 2: Same day, delete your twitter and facebook accounts.

I wonder if this asshole is related to barrel roll guy?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:22:31pm

re: #272 jaunte

Step 1: Get caught on video slamming a high school kid to the floor of her classroom.
Step 2: Same day, delete your twitter and facebook accounts.

yeah, nothing worse than becoming a victim of cyberbullying…

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:22:48pm

When I was in high school, the “resources officer” or whatever they called them back then (I think they were DARE officers) happened to be a family friend - as in, before moving to this city, we carpooled with his kids, he and my dad were our baseball and soccer coaches, lived two blocks away, etc. He used to call all of us kids “toadface”, so one day, my sister walks up to him and says “hey, toadface, what are you doing here?” The on campus security guard was standing right there are nearly shit a brick. The difference between the cops I knew growing up and guys like this are the difference between Game of Thrones and Monty Python’s Grail.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:22:54pm

re: #271 Eclectic Cyborg

FTFY.

Nothing needed fixing IMO. Cops do this shit to everyone.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:24:37pm

re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus

Nothing needed fixing IMO. Cops do this shit to everyone.

Maybe, but they do it at much higher rates to blacks.

Where’s the story about cops pepper spraying black students at Birmingham, Alabama public schools?
thinkprogress.org

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:27:04pm

When I was a lad, the disciplinarians got along great with the students. Never heard one yell. “all right, fellas!” usually did the job.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:27:45pm

re: #277 Timothy Watson

Yup. And this guy too.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:28:06pm

Oh yeah, I remember this guy.

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b_sharp  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:29:02pm

re: #279 GlutenFreeJesus

Yup. And this guy too.

Embedded Image

That really looks shopped.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:30:59pm

re: #281 b_sharp

That really looks shopped.

If only it were. From UC-Davis in 2011.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:31:39pm
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Kilroy01  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:32:49pm

Link

Students at the school identified Ben Fields as the officer behind the classroom throwdown. They’ve also noted that the officer has had a history of roughing up students. Fields is listed on the Richland County sheriff’s department’s website as a senior deputy assigned to Spring Valley High School. On his now-deleted Twitter page, he described himself as football coach for the school’s defensive line, and a strength coach.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:32:51pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

Justice Kennedy suggests that Kim Davis should resign

she has a career cut out for her on the wingnut welfare circuit

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:33:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:33:08pm

re: #221 Amory Blaine

In Milwaukee growing up, many many Babushka’s wore headscarves around here. It was part of the landscape.

When I am at work I wear a shaitel (wig) but the rest of the time I wear a hat (beret or cloche).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:34:46pm
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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:34:50pm

Imagine a student in Texas being verbally disruptive when the teacher reads from the textbook about the “immigrant laborers” who picked cotton in the antebellum South.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:34:54pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

You hear stories from black people about being pinioned by cops while not resisting at all, and hearing ‘Stop resisting!’, and KNOWING that’s the excuse given for brutality up to and including shooting, being scared our of their minds.

And now we often get to see the video too, which leaves little room for contradiction of the facts, but we see that happen, too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:35:19pm

HURR HURR WE HAVE TEH BEST CANDIES, SHAPED LIKE BULLETS!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:36:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:36:37pm

re: #290 wrenchwench

And now we often get to see the video too, which leaves little room for contradiction of the facts, but we see that happen, too.

It is distressing and depressing the extent to which car-cam and body-cam footage DOESN’T help when the victim is black.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:36:44pm

re: #291 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WE HAVE TEH BEST CANDIES, SHAPED LIKE BULLETS!!!!!!

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Just don’t get caught egging or TPing her house, though!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:36:47pm

re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus

Nothing needed fixing IMO. Cops do this shit to everyone.

Yes and no. Their threshold is almost always much lower for black people. My original point was that we, as a society, either see this happening to a “person” or we don’t. Many of us, unfortunately, don’t. Those who do develop more and more contempt for authority, even when in many cases we’ve had nothing but good personal interactions with police, or have actually worked with police. Tweeps like @eclecticbrotha still actually work in municipal detention and are able to speak up. On the other end of the scale we have the those invested in the white angst industrial complex who will always side with police over people of color even while decrying the “police state” in general.

This is institutional racism personified, as demonstrated in the classic ABC News bike thief segment, people react differently to identical situation based on race without even realizing how grotesquely different their reactions are.


Hulu Video

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:37:23pm

re: #282 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If only it were. From UC-Davis in 2011.

In a pathetic example of grasping for excuses, a Fox droid lamely explained that pepper spray is “basically a food product.”
This prompted one of my all time favorite comments at LGF, “In Soviet California, food eats you.”
Can’t remember who said it but it was one of the regulars. If anyone recognizes it as their own, please stand up and accept the applause, again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:38:13pm

re: #296 Shiplord Kirel

In a pathetic example of grasping for excuses, a Fox droid lamely explained that pepper spray is “basically a food product.”

so is haggis

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:38:47pm
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:38:52pm

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

so is manure, still no need to throw it at others.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:40:15pm

re: #299 KGxvi

so is manure, still no need to throw it at others.

Really, the worst part of that is that the bastard did it so nonchalantly, obviously enjoying it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:40:41pm

re: #299 KGxvi

so is manure, still no need to throw it at others.

don’t make me choose between manure and haggis…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:40:57pm

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

so is haggis

That’s prohibited by the ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment thingie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:41:11pm

I admit it.
I like haggis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:42:02pm

mmmm….
grilled cheese sammich.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:43:03pm

re: #299 KGxvi

so is manure, still no need to throw it at others.

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

so is haggis

Haggis might be a good substitute for dispersing demonstrators, but it’s too expensive.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:43:08pm
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:44:16pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

I admit it.
I like haggis.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:45:35pm

BREAKING — (Reuters) In front of a wildly cheering crowd in Manchester, New Hampshire, this afternoon, presidential hopeful Donald Trump personally castrated six of his campaign interns. “Let this be a warning to all dumb, lazy young Americans,” Trump shouted. “I’m coming for you next, ISIS!”

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:46:22pm

re: #306 goddamnedfrank

there are too many things in that ad for me to make sense of. Why is he holding an ax? Why is she on all fours? And why the mirror placed to show her butt? Why are the wheels on the inside? Why is she barefoot but he has shoes on?

Seriously, this is the thing that I can turn into a Zapruder film

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:46:46pm

I come back with hat in hand to report that the fantastic waterspout photo I posted, supposedly from Patricia, was not in fact from Patricia but from FL in 2013.

I failed the run-the-image-through-Google-Image-Search test to make sure it was legit, so I figure I should pass it along. Credit is owed where it is due, after all.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:46:53pm

I heard this many years ago, with the venue changed to my beat in the California desert. Still a good one.

A Texas State trooper pulled a car over on I-35 about 2 miles south of Waco Texas. When the trooper asked the driver why he was speeding, the driver said he was a Magician and Juggler and was on his way to Austin Texas to do a show for the Shrine Circus. He didn’t want to be late.
The trooper told the driver he was fascinated by juggling and said if the driver would do a little juggling for him then he wouldn’t give him a ticket. He told the trooper he had sent his equipment ahead and didn’t have anything to juggle.
The trooper said he had some flares in the trunk and asked if he could juggle them. The juggler said he could, so the trooper got 5 flares, lit them and handed them to him.
While the man was juggling, a car pulled in behind the State Troopers car. A drunken good old boy from central Texas got out, watched the performance, then went over to the Trooper’s car, opened the rear door and got in. The trooper observed him and went over to the State car, opened the door asking the drunk what he thought he was doing.
The drunk replied, “You might as well take my ass to jail, cause there ain’t no way I can pass that test.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:47:30pm

re: #309 KGxvi

there are too many things in that ad for me to make sense of. Why is he holding an ax? Why is she on all fours? And why the mirror placed to show her butt? Why are the wheels on the inside? Why is she barefoot but he has shoes on?

Seriously, this is the thing that I can turn into a Zapruder film

You really need us to spell that one out?

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:48:16pm

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

well, no, but it seemed worth including in the list…

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:50:16pm

Wheels are on the inside to show how dumb they are. The instructions, too hard. The ax is the desperate final act to reinvigorate the mans machismo.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:50:28pm

Also, really, you need the sound on for this.

I have no idea what else to say about it.

Adam Savage’s Duck Army Bomb Test

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:50:37pm

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

I suppose the better question is why is the mirror standing up like that against the window?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:50:52pm

I’m going to post this one again just because I make myself laugh.

As a heads up I’ll probably post it during the next Republican debate too.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:51:59pm

The mirror is to be installed on the door. If the closet ever gets finished.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:52:05pm

re: #309 KGxvi

European ads tend to more overtly sexual than American ones. I also think they decided to make it a sort of “How many things are wrong with this picture” to get people to actually look at it instead of just turning the page.
That’s my guess.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:52:29pm

re: #318 Amory Blaine

The mirror is to be installed on the door. If the closet ever gets finished.

What this ad really shows is who has never bought furniture at Ikea.

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Lidane  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:53:30pm

ZOMG RINO!

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:53:34pm

re: #319 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

ah, ok, didn’t realize this was a euro ad… perhaps I’m missing something culturally then.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:54:34pm

re: #306 goddamnedfrank

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You should see their daughters. Oh, here they are now.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 2:56:05pm

re: #321 Lidane

that’s actually rather impressive, since she’s up for re-election this cycle. Of course, polls show she’s been running tight with Gov Hassan, so perhaps it’s an attempt to win by being an appealing candidate to as many voters as possible.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:01:31pm

Japanese tire giant is buying Philadelphia based Pep Boys for some unknown reason. Pep Boys had these mascots, Manny, Moe, and Jack. One of my favorite radio bits was a local comedian doing simulated bad weather closings and delays, including “Pep Boys is working a modified shift. “Manny comes at 8, Moe comes in at 1 and Jack’s off”

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:02:49pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:06:57pm

re: #324 KGxvi

that’s actually rather impressive, since she’s up for re-election this cycle. Of course, polls show she’s been running tight with Gov Hassan, so perhaps it’s an attempt to win by being an appealing candidate to as many voters as possible.

It makes sense. A large part of the NH economy is built on tourism. With the dry and warm summer and autumn the leaves aren’t nearly as dramatic as in years past (I heard on the radio; I’m an outsider myself-recent transplant). If for some reason climate change led to a series of dry warm winters, the ski industry would suffer (and those damn ticks attacking the moose population, and….) Also, there’s a push from the seacoast area, too, from what I understand.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:08:45pm

From 1991, Trump’s father busted for giving Donald’s casino an illegal $3.5 million loan to pay off debts.

One of Donald Trump’s casinos has admitted that it broke the law and violated terms of its license when the developer’s father lent it $3.5 million by purchasing gaming chips when he had no plans to gamble, the state Division of Gaming Enforcement said yesterday.

Through his attorney, Fred Trump bought 700 gray chips, each worth $5,000, in December so that Trump Castle Casino Resort would have enough cash to make an $18.4 million interest payment on its mortgage, the division said.

Trump Castle gets to keep the money, but must pay a $30,000 fine under terms of the settlement, Division Director Jack Sweeney said. Sweeney said Fred Trump also agreed to apply for a license as a financial source, which would make another such loan possible in June, when the next interest payment is due.

…

The loan from his father appears to have saved Trump a bundle. Not only did he avoid default on the bonds - and the risk of losing control of Trump Castle as a result - but patrons who hold gaming chips normally are not paid interest.

The amount of the proposed fine, $30,000, is less than one percent of the loan amount. That is a smaller sum than other casinos have paid banks for loan-origination fees on loans of that size, Casino Control Commission documents show.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:09:19pm

Great headline from HuffPo:

“Bush League Assembles to Save Jeb”
politico.com

Heh

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:09:24pm

It’s moments like this when I miss Top Gear. A ferrari burst into flames at a gas station, then drove itself away… Can’t wait for that test on the new show

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:09:56pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

I admit it.
I like haggis.

I like gefilte fish.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:12:26pm

re: #331 The Vicious Babushka

I like gefilte fish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:13:55pm

not the greatest outdoor light conditions today, but here’s a small sample of fall color here in the backwoods:

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:14:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:14:08pm

Useless fuckwit is useless.

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gwangung  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:15:12pm

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

Useless fuckwit is useless.

[Embedded content]

Fuckwit ignores who initiated the violence.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:16:19pm

re: #334 Kragar

given what we’ve seen in similar stories, I’d be rather cautious when “working closely and in full cooperation with” the sheriff’s department. but, that’s just me.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:17:02pm

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

He places her in head lock, then she fights back.

He must have seen a different video from the one where the guy who benches 600 lbs tosses the girl and her desk on the floor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:17:05pm

re: #336 gwangung

Fuckwit ignores who initiated the violence.

Well, hey - police officers have always been nice to ME, so I can only assume that everyone else’s experience is the same!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:19:01pm

re: #336 gwangung

Fuckwit ignores who initiated the violence.

She never “fought back.” Not once. She never even had the opportunity. The most she did was throw her arm up and away from him in a reflexive effort to keep her balance as he flipped her and the entire desk over.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:20:19pm

re: #337 KGxvi

given what we’ve seen in similar stories, I’d be rather cautious when “working closely and in full cooperation with” the sheriff’s department. but, that’s just me.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:22:50pm

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:23:27pm
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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:23:40pm

re: #339 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, hey - police officers have always been nice to ME, so I can only assume that everyone else’s experience is the same!

I’m guessing said fuckwit is lily-white, judging by their Twivatar.

They seem to be the epitome of clueless white privilege: being born on 3rd base, thinking you hit a triple, then extrapolating your (relatively sheltered) life experience onto people who sure as hell have it harder than you.

Disclaimer: I, myself, am lily-white; in fact, I’m the Whitest Man Alive if you get me out in the sun.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:24:13pm

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

He loves Jesus though.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:24:22pm

re: #341 Kragar

wonder if the kid who took the video will get in trouble for using their phone during class? i wish that was a joke, but i wouldn’t be surprised.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:25:08pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

From my parents, since “fall” is a nonexistent concept here in the Bay Area.

YES, it’s sideways. No, I don’t know why.
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:25:21pm

So this fucking asshole blames Black people for their own enslavement.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:25:58pm

re: #347 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s sideways because it comes from the parents, is what my kids would say.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:26:46pm

re: #349 jaunte

It’s sideways because it comes from the parents, is what my kids would say.

Works for me.

Seriously, I rotate it and save it and nothing is sticking even though it displays just fine in Windows. I give up. You can see the colors, that’s the point.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:26:59pm
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:28:53pm

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

“slaves who wouldn’t leave the plantation for fear of freedom?”

dafaq you saying? because i just can’t. nope, not today.

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TedStriker  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:30:59pm

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

So this fucking asshole blames Black people for their own enslavement.

[Embedded content]

re: #352 KGxvi

“slaves who wouldn’t leave the plantation for fear of freedom?”

dafaq you saying? because i just can’t. nope, not today.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:31:11pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:31:41pm

re: #354 Kragar

[Embedded content]

The very definition of privilege.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:31:54pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:31:59pm

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

Useless fuckwit is useless.

[Embedded content]

They always justify it.

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darthstar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:32:08pm
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gwangung  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:32:20pm

re: #354 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Well, his parents raised an idiot without any compassion, so I’d have to give an incomplete to them.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:32:20pm

re: #354 Kragar

He grants that it’s assault and still says its the victim’s fault. How exceptionally American.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:32:30pm
I’ve never had to be assaulted by a cop

That’s not how any of this works…

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:34:24pm
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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:35:30pm

re: #310 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I come back with hat in hand to report that the fantastic waterspout photo I posted, supposedly from Patricia, was not in fact from Patricia but from FL in 2013.

I failed the run-the-image-through-Google-Image-Search test to make sure it was legit, so I figure I should pass it along. Credit is owed where it is due, after all.

Yes, I re-posted it on Facebook and someone mentioned that it was an old photo.

Awesome photo, though.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:36:05pm

re: #363 makeitstop

Yes, I re-posted it on Facebook and someone mentioned that it was an old photo.

Awesome photo, though.

Yes.

So if anyone hasn’t looked at the photo they should.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:36:57pm

And cops wonder why everyone is suspicious of them by default.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:38:10pm
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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:40:31pm

re: #320 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What this ad really shows is who has never bought furniture at Ikea.

I always tell my wife to allow for what we call the ‘Ikea Mistake’ - something in assembly that doesn’t destroy the piece being assembled, but makes the build longer due to having to stop and correct what is wrong.

I used to be good for at least one every time we bought something from Ikea.

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Jenner7  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:41:28pm

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:41:49pm

At least he’s really clear on the whole victim blaming bit:

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:42:44pm

re: #369 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I hope he never has daughters.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:43:47pm

re: #367 makeitstop

cc.com

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:44:23pm

re: #368 Jenner7

in fairness, you can be awed in the “what the fuck are you doing?” sense…

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:44:31pm

re: #369 klys (maker of Silmarils)

At least he’s really clear on the whole victim blaming bit:

[Embedded content]

Is it sad that I’m just glad that he didn’t decide to shoot her?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:45:07pm

re: #370 jaunte

I hope he never has daughters.

I’d had one of his earlier comments parsed to easily show how it could be victim-blaming but then he went and made it crystal clear.

Because “not cooperating” is grounds for assault. That people truly believe this is disturbing.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:45:13pm

re: #373 Big Beautiful Door

Yeah, it’s sad that we have that to be thankful for.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:45:14pm

20 years ago, in a basic criminal justice course, I learned a few different ways to apply simple arms and wrist locks that could be used to get someone to move and comply. They were uncomfortable, but only hurt when the subject resisted. You could get someone to stand up, sit down, walk them around the room, etc, and we learned the basics for all of them in just a couple of hours.

But you’re telling me a trained police officer, with years of training, has no choice but to chokeslam a teenage girl?

Nope, you can fuck right off with that nonsense.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:46:20pm

re: #376 Kragar

He clearly decided to punish her right there for not obeying his commands.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:46:41pm

re: #376 Kragar

I remember taking Criminal Justice and Security as a vocational course during my senior year of high school and learning the same stuff. I do not recall lessons on choking and/or body slamming.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:47:25pm

Cop needs to be drug tested.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:48:48pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:49:09pm

re: #379 Stanley Sea Toujours

Cop needs to be drug tested.

I assume a statement will shortly be forthcoming explaining how his actions were within police guidelines and in perfect accord with his training.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:50:31pm

Just in time for dinner.

New in Pages: Clear Food - the Hot Dog Report

Among the lowlights: 2% of the samples contained human DNA, and 2/3 of those were alleged vegetarian hot dog products.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:50:41pm

re: #368 Jenner7

Jeb’s! the dumb one.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:52:31pm

re: #369 klys (maker of Silmarils)

At least he’s really clear on the whole victim blaming bit:

[Embedded content]

Too bad she didn’t have a gun and then she could have fought against tyranny.
///

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:52:41pm

re: #382 Shiplord Kirel

Just in time for dinner.

New in Pages: Clear Food - the Hot Dog Report

Among the lowlights: 2% of the samples contained human DNA, and 2/3 of those were alleged vegetarian hot dog products.

EWE

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:55:39pm

re: #358 darthstar

Brave Portland woman breaks up anti-abortion protest by chanting “yeast infections!”

She’s awesome.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:57:24pm

I just bought a pack of beef Hebrew Nationals, the new cancer sticks. Don’t have to tamp them down like Marlboro’s. Win/win.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:58:51pm
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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 3:59:07pm

re: #387 Amory Blaine

I just bought a pack of beef Hebrew Nationals, the new cancer sticks. Don’t have to tamp them down like Marlboro’s. Win/win.

Yeah, but they’re a real bitch to light.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:01:00pm

re: #379 Stanley Sea Toujours

Cop needs to be drug tested.

Roid rage.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:01:58pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:03:34pm

re: #387 Amory Blaine

I just bought a pack of beef Hebrew Nationals, the new cancer sticks. Don’t have to tamp them down like Marlboro’s. Win/win.

There are three hotdogs, Nathan’s, Sabrett’s, and Hebrew National. And the greatest of these is Hebrew National.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:08:30pm

re: #391 Charles Johnson

Why would Larry Flynt meet with CCJ? To give him resources?

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:08:54pm

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

I was just about to point this out. A TOPLESS woman with a gun? SERIOUSLY? I mean I know most of their gun memes are stupid enough, but DAMN.

Not just topless, but also wearing some totally ineffectual eye-black to look like kitty whiskers.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:09:38pm

re: #393 Amory Blaine

Why would Larry Flynt meet with CCJ? To give him resources?

Only if he’s lost his mind. Flynt is historically Dirty Left.

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:10:32pm

re: #382 Shiplord Kirel

Just in time for dinner.

New in Pages: Clear Food - the Hot Dog Report

Among the lowlights: 2% of the samples contained human DNA, and 2/3 of those were alleged vegetarian hot dog products.

Thanks Obama. You and Planned Parenthood have now defiled the great American hotdog. Proud of yourself? ///

RBS

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:16:14pm

re: #382 Shiplord Kirel

Just in time for dinner.

New in Pages: Clear Food - the Hot Dog Report

Among the lowlights: 2% of the samples contained human DNA, and 2/3 of those were alleged vegetarian hot dog products.

Maybe it was vegetarian … um, er… genetic material.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:19:05pm
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:19:30pm

re: #291 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WE HAVE TEH BEST CANDIES, SHAPED LIKE BULLETS!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Come to our side, we have cookies!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:19:38pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:19:51pm

re: #186 CuriousLurker

The thing is, hijab isn’t that simplistic (i.e. it’s not solely about men’s libido). Did you know that half of hijab is for the man to lower his gaze? I’ll bet you didn’t. There’s lots more to it, it’s not a binary thing. Maybe if you made an effort to educate yourself about it more you would understand it better and not have such a strong negative reaction. Or don’t, it’s totally up to you.

Being raised by nuns rather takes the terror out of the whole hijab thing.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:23:14pm

re: #395 Decatur Deb

Only if he’s lost his mind. Flynt is historically Dirty Left.

I was trying to logic that out. Perhaps Chuck knows he’s screwed the pooch on the right so now he’s trying moonbat welfare? If so…I think I have bad news for him.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:24:07pm

re: #402 WhatEVs

I was trying to logic that out. Perhaps Chuck knows he’s screwed the pooch on the right so now he’s trying moonbat welfare? If so…I think I have bad news for him.

Probably just wanted to get his centerfold autographed.

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WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:24:58pm

re: #403 Decatur Deb

Probably just wanted to get his centerfold autographed.

Ugh. My immediate mental image was not pretty.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:25:41pm

re: #403 Decatur Deb

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:25:56pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

mmmm….
grilled cheese sammich.

[Embedded content]

I’ve seen that look, but from a corgi. He would look at me like, “Hey, you gonna eat all that yourself?”. Plus he knew I would give him a little nip of it.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:27:47pm

Chuck is probably trying to sell Larry Flynt on one of his sleazy exposés based on the Ashley Madison hack. He’s desperate to raise cash right now as the judgment day in his idiotic lawsuit against Gawker approaches.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:28:40pm

re: #391 Charles Johnson

Embedded Image

Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre he did.

And I’m Hugh Hefner 😉

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:40:16pm

re: #172 Testy Toad T

It’s easy to forget or fail to ascribe agency to a person who is in a specific sense quite literally dehumanized, as in you can’t see their face or their expressions or their smile or the glow in the eye.

Maybe not a good reaction, but an understandable one. We’re visual and social creatures.

Actually, you can if you look at their eyes—you can easily see anger, sadness, even a smile when the corners of her eyes crinkle—I’ve seen it many, many times. I rarely see a woman wearing a niqab who also has her eyes veiled like this—in fact I can only remember seeing it a couple of times in my life. I’ve never see a woman wearing a burqa anywhere.

I have a test for anyone who’s willing to try it:

Women who wear the niqab in the West (especially converts) are used to people looking away from them, or looking at them with a mixture of fear/pity/disgust, so next time you see one why not try looking right at her briefly, giving her a genuine smile, and politely saying “assalamu aliekum.” I can pretty much guarantee you that you’ll be able to see a smile reach her eyes along with pleasant surprise, and maybe the next niqabi you see won’t bother you so much.

One last thought on the matter of religion and what women wear: Freedom of religion is like freedom of speech—as long as no laws are being broken we have to be willing to tolerate people’s choices regardless of whether we agree with or are comfortable with them or not.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:40:46pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

From 1991, Trump’s father busted for giving Donald’s casino an illegal $3.5 million loan to pay off debts.

The amount of the proposed fine, $30,000, is less than one percent of the loan amount. That is a smaller sum than other casinos have paid banks for loan-origination fees on loans of that size, Casino Control Commission documents show.

So there was more than just that one time million $ loan. Daddy was probably pulling that fuckup business genius’s nuts out of the fire up until the day he died. Maybe Donny’s brother got all the brains.

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unproven innocence  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:46:03pm

Testing; please ignore.

Edit: I was getting “Double posting” error msgs; suspect some sort of glitch in our collect-it-all infrastructure.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 4:48:05pm

re: #392 Decatur Deb

There are three hotdogs, Nathan’s, Sabrett’s, and Hebrew National. And the greatest of these is Hebrew National.

The best kosher franks are made in Montreal.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 5:06:08pm

re: #366 jaunte

[Embedded content]

If a parent had done that to their own child they would be brought up on charges.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 5:11:22pm

re: #377 jaunte

He clearly decided to punish her right there for not obeying his commands.

He likes his partner to call him Judge Dredd during foreplay.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2015 • 5:13:31pm

re: #382 Shiplord Kirel

Just in time for dinner.

New in Pages: Clear Food - the Hot Dog Report

Among the lowlights: 2% of the samples contained human DNA, and 2/3 of those were alleged vegetarian hot dog products.

Soylent Tubes!!!!!!

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petermans007  Oct 27, 2015 • 6:58:29am

Seriously, a 1 million dollar loan really is small in the real estate business. Why do you expect he will try not to hurt anyone’s feelings by pretending it’s a lot of money ? It clearly isn’t, so he isn’t politically correct about it, like he isn’t about anything.
What’s more, his line about make-up is obviously a joke. An old one I already heard 30 years ago.
The interview was quite interesting, I don’t understand why the only thing you have to say about it is some far-fetched sneers at his character.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 7:22:34am

heh

maybe he should tell better “jokes”…

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palomino  Oct 27, 2015 • 10:31:54am

re: #416 petermans007

Seriously, a 1 million dollar loan really is small in the real estate business. Why do you expect he will try not to hurt anyone’s feelings by pretending it’s a lot of money ? It clearly isn’t, so he isn’t politically correct about it, like he isn’t about anything.
What’s more, his line about make-up is obviously a joke. An old one I already heard 30 years ago.
The interview was quite interesting, I don’t understand why the only thing you have to say about it is some far-fetched sneers at his character.

Bullshit, a million dollar loan wasn’t small 45 years ago, even in the NYC real estate business. Do you even know how to account for inflation over long periods of time? Only a tiny fraction of 1% of Americans can just get a million dollar loan from their dads. He says it like he didn’t get a great inheritance but more like he suffered because hid dad told him “no” and only gave him a million. This is why so many people think he’s full of shit. He was born on 3rd base (which is fine), but he thinks he hit the triple that got him there, instead of recognizing his good fortune. All part of the “I’m the greatest businessman ever” charade that is the defining characteristic of his vanity campaign.

His “character” is a sick joke. He’s more like an insult comedian than a real presidential candidate. He’s lazy too. Listen to his “concrete” plans on issues. They all consist of “I’ll find the right people, the best people, and we’ll fix that problem, we’re looking into it.” The most detail he’s gone into is his immigration “plan”, which consists of only build fence and deport them all. It must have taken him 4 seconds of deep thought to come up with that.

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petermans007  Oct 28, 2015 • 11:55:41am

re: #418 palomino

I’m telling you it objectively is a small loan, even 45 years ago, especially in real estate. Not to build a private home of course but I suppose you already got that. Your head must be exploding when he is showing off with his billions. This is how he is; the other side of the political specter brags about how many billions they can loot for their voters when in power, he brags about his own money. It’s not very polite and I would never do that, but it’s incomparably better then what his opponents do.

Building a fence is a very concrete plan, easy to realize, effective and cheap. It has been done all over the world and works fine. This is a no brainer and will vastly reduce the illegal immigration influx.

Now for the rest you are right, he doesn’t have a lot of concrete plans. Here in Europe, this is the most normal thing : nobody has concrete plans : that’s called being un-nuanced and populist. I don’t know how concrete the Dem’s plans are, I’m not an American, but Trump at least has one good and effective policy plan, and I like how he says what’s on his mind. It probably won’t work but hell, at least it will be interesting to watch the others react to him.

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palomino  Oct 29, 2015 • 1:52:56am

re: #419 petermans007

I’m telling you it objectively is a small loan, even 45 years ago, especially in real estate. Not to build a private home of course but I suppose you already got that. Your head must be exploding when he is showing off with his billions. This is how he is; the other side of the political specter brags about how many billions they can loot for their voters when in power, he brags about his own money. It’s not very polite and I would never do that, but it’s incomparably better then what his opponents do.

Building a fence is a very concrete plan, easy to realize, effective and cheap. It has been done all over the world and works fine. This is a no brainer and will vastly reduce the illegal immigration influx.

Now for the rest you are right, he doesn’t have a lot of concrete plans. Here in Europe, this is the most normal thing : nobody has concrete plans : that’s called being un-nuanced and populist. I don’t know how concrete the Dem’s plans are, I’m not an American, but Trump at least has one good and effective policy plan, and I like how he says what’s on his mind. It probably won’t work but hell, at least it will be interesting to watch the others react to him.

WTF, Peterman. The simple point is that a one million dollar loan is HUUUUUUUGE, in the sense that very few people receive such a gift and only the most entitled (like Trump) would act like it’s modest. Trump is an insulting boorish loudmouth, not fit to govern even a tiny country, much less the US. His xenophobia is disgusting, and his followers are know-nothing populist right wingers, the kinds of idiots who get easily swayed by a demagogic Mussolini-type phony tough guy.

You don’t know shit about American culture if you think heads are exploding over Donald’s billions. America has hundreds of billionaires, and they flash their wads all the time…it’s like a sport here in the US. Not so much heads exploding, as people yawning about the douchebag who can’t shut up about his money, because he’s got no other qualification.

The US has an ugly history when it comes to treatment of minorities, almost as ugly as Europe’s. But we’re a melting pot, and thus unlike any European nation. The notion of demonizing and deporting millions of people due to their ethnicity is repugnant to most of us.

As for building a wall, you might want to consider the fact that 40% of illegal immigrants come to the US by plane. So much for your effectiveness argument.

Your line equating taxes to “looting for their voters” gives you away. You’re a tea bagger stuck in Europe. Are you a member of a nationalist party?


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