Here’s a second thread to discuss this mess, as Jeffrey Epstein’s pal Alan Dershowitz begins to dissemble.
The Senate impeachment trial of President Trump continues with opening arguments by the President’s defense team.
All right let’s do this: Sleight of hand #1: Dersh says he will analyze why the Framers chose the words they did as “the sole criteria for impeachment.”
Nope, nothing in the doc says “SOLE CRITERIA.” That’s a trick he learned from FedSoc, requiring textual fealty.— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 28, 2020
Sleight #2: Dersh is saying that you need a stated crime. That’s the opposite of the position he’s taken his whole career until five seconds ago.
— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 28, 2020
Is OJ in the gallery cheering him on?
re: #2 Ace Rothstein
It would interfere with him pulling arguments out.
Sleight #3: His throwing out a lot of things that sound like historical “fact” to establish his credibility. He’s trying to make the Senators think that he is smarter and more learned than they.
Almost every “fact” he’s stated thus far, is irrelevant.— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 28, 2020
Panic grips America as experts estimate the coronavirus could claim up to 0.00001% of all people killed by guns in the United States every year.
— The Out And Abouter (@OutAndAbouter) January 28, 2020
re: #4 b.d. (He’s Impeached)
Is OJ in the gallery cheering him on?
Well Charlie Kirk was using OJ to tell people to leave the Democratic Party recently so maybe?
re: #6 Ace Rothstein
Yes, with Mike Tyson.
Well, Dersh did somehow insert Mickey Mantle into his diatribe, so…
re: #11 BeachDem
Well, Dersh did somehow insert Mickey Mantle into his diatribe, so…
Mickey Mantle asked Willie Mays to give him dirt on Sandy Koufax for the World Series and if Mays didn’t Whitey Ford would hit him in an All Star game?
And Joni gives the game away.
What a brainiac. https://t.co/0usiuRXDtR— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 28, 2020
WTF is “criminal-like behavior?” Is that like keeping your underwear on while getting a massage? Is it criminal-adjacent or just criminal-similar? Dershowitz is such an asshole.
The CDC is refuting China’s position that the novel coronavirus is more dangerous and spread more easily than initially thought.
thedailybeast.com
re: #13 jaunte
A real galaxy brain, that one.
Trump couldn’t extort Ukraine to smear Biden by delaying $391 million so he got his lawyers to smear Biden during his impeachment hearing & Joni thinks her glee about a Biden smear in the Senate is a smart thing say on camera right now. Their goal has always been to tank Biden. https://t.co/DZbwRJxZV2
— KD (@Fly_Sistah) January 28, 2020
2. Plus this from @mikercarpenter:
“Biden supported the fight against corruption and advocated increased scrutiny of wrongdoing, including urging an investigation of Burisma.”https://t.co/W4zxaVaqAh— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) January 27, 2020
re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🎃
The CDC is refuting China’s position that the novel coronavirus is more dangerous and spread more easily than initially thought.
thedailybeast.com
News fresh out of BNO News via @lookner: 106 dead, 4295 infected.
re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Joni isn’t very smart is she?
That is not a requirement of conservatives. They only need to obey their paymasters.
re: #14 BeachDem
WTF is “criminal-like behavior?” Is that like keeping your underwear on while getting a massage? Is it criminal-adjacent or just criminal-similar? Dershowitz is such an asshole.
I believe my acquaintance Sideshow Bob can explain how attempted murder is close to attempted chemistry. Seriously I feel bad for anyone who thinks Dershowitz helps Trump’s case.
re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🎃
That is not a requirement of conservatives. They only need to obey their paymasters.
No shit but you still don’t say the quiet part aloud.
re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Joni isn’t very smart is she?
But she looks genuinely delighted as she spews. Wonder why they don’t have Tim in their little gaggle like they did last week. Guess they figured his work was done when they got a photo op with a BLACK MAN.
You don’t need a criminal violation to impeach a public official.
But if you’re wondering, yes, Trump did commit crimes. https://t.co/TScxlp3ieR— Sam Berger (@SamBerger_DC) January 28, 2020
re: #1 jaunte
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Same school as the evangelicals insisting that The KJV Bible is the sole unimpeachable authority - along with solely their interpretation of what the phrases mean.
Sleight #5: This is more a FedSoc thing than a Dersh thing. See when the FedSoc wants the Constitution to say something it doesn’t say: they use what Framers said BEFORE they put in the language, and argue that the actual text INCLUDES that larger conversation about the text.
— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 28, 2020
Has anyone told her that every day is take your kids to work day in the Trump White House? https://t.co/TJokMgT4XA
— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) January 28, 2020
re: #26 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
No shit but you still don’t say the quiet part aloud.
Is why theyre mad at the Dems all the time..for doing that
It’s premiere night on Fox for their new series “BOLTON’S BETRAYAL.” https://t.co/A3NaWHzBJd
— Lawrence O’Donnell (@Lawrence) January 28, 2020
Derpowitz needs a jacket that isn’t three sizes too big.
Dershowitz says “if a President committed extortion” he could be impeached for it.
The House articles fact pattern allege an extortion scheme.
#ImpeachmentTrial— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) January 28, 2020
re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth
The Everyone Is Disposable Party.
When Trump falls, they will all have been in the resistance.
Shhhh, don’t tell Dersh.
Obstruction of congressional investigations is a statutory crime under the U.S. Code.
— Elizabeth de la Vega (@Delavegalaw) January 28, 2020
re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth
You know, Steve Bannon got his wish. The GOP is a Leninist party. The only question I have is where on the mall is Fox going to insist that we have Trump’s open mausoleum?
What the fucking fuck is Dersh blathering about? It’s like he’s trying to use a bazillion words to Repubsplain that TEH FOUNDERS DID NOT EVER INTEND FOR A PRESDENT TO BE IMPEACHED EVER UNLESS HE LIED ABOUT GETTING A BLOW JOB!!!!!!!
Dershowitz talks about the framers as if he was “in the room where it happened” (to coin a phrase)—like he has seances with Hamilton and the gang (as opposed to statutory rape while wearing his underwear.) And his hand-waving is so obnoxious…as is everything else about him.
That’s it—if I want to watch a curmudgeon, I’m going to catch some Curb Your Enthusiasm episodes—Larry makes a lot more sense.
One more thing @PamBondi!#LEVidence! pic.twitter.com/H5MmWzFY4a
— (((evan shapiro))) (@eshap) January 27, 2020
Trump’s “legal team” is a fucking shit show. I hope these galaxy brains know they’re never going to see a dime from him.
As Trump’s legal team makes the case that he’s within his rights to refuse witnesses and documents … recall that Bill Clinton, during his impeachment proceeding, ultimately turned over his DNA (!) in the form of a blood sample.
— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) January 27, 2020
White House claim: Abuse of power is not impeachable.
Reality: The Framers made clear that it is.
Hamilton: impeachment is for “those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust.” #TruthMatters— House Intelligence Committee (@HouseIntel) January 28, 2020
And Republican Senator Lindsey Graham himself felt the same way, in 1999:
“Doesn’t have to be a crime… When you start using your office and you’re acting in a way that hurts people, you’ll have committed a high crime.” #TruthMatters pic.twitter.com/xepmjwlVuG— House Intelligence Committee (@HouseIntel) January 28, 2020
Both Dershowitz and Starr padded their statements with a shitload of irrelevant bullshit, probably to justify their high fees.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
re: #40 BeachDem
Dershowitz talks about the framers as if he was “in the room where it happened” (to coin a phrase)—like he has seances with Hamilton and the gang (as opposed to statutory rape while wearing his underwear.) And his hand-waving is so obnoxious…as is everything else about him.
That’s it—if I want to watch a curmudgeon, I’m going to catch some Curb Your Enthusiasm episodes—Larry makes a lot more sense.
I’ve long called the conservative pretense of “originalism” to be nothing more than playing Ouija
re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth
The staffer running the HIC Twitter feed deserves a hand because the way they’re responding to the absurdity of Trump’s defenses in real time is muy impressive.
There is a strong consensus among legal scholars and impeachment experts that the arguments Dershowitz is making right now on the Senate floor… are bogus. He’s arguing that there must be a crime to impeach a president. https://t.co/Cj6opkMVOo
— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) January 28, 2020
I take some pleasure in the thought of Trump trying to follow what Dershowitz is talking about.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) January 28, 2020
He’s just staring at the screen muttering “no collusion, no collusion.”
That’s utter nonsense.
Not only were the founders clearly worried about the abuse of power, there were articles of impeachment drawn up exactly on charges of abuse of power for both Nixon and Clinton. https://t.co/fNfsuP6ZjM— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 18, 2020
re: #49 jaunte
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He’s just staring at the screen muttering “no collusion, no collusion.”
‘WITCH HUNT! WITCH HUNT!”
re: #46 goddamnedfrank
I’ve long called the conservative pretense of “originalism” to be nothing more than playing Ouija
It’s why even though I never thought he was stupid, I always thought Scalia was a shallow thinker. Although Thomas is the one who is more of an Originalist. Wouldn’t call him dumb either but I do think originalism is a conservative way of trying to use the old logic trick of speak for authority even though they know the Founders’ exact intents as much anyone else who has read The Constitution. IT’s a very arrogant philosophy. But it fits with how conservatives interpret documents, see scripture.
CNN’s @jaketapper fact checks Trump defense team’s claims about the Bidens: “There were a lot of things that Eric Herschmann said that were just false and Republicans in the Senate had to have known they were false.” pic.twitter.com/Mi7goLcH1V
— CNN (@CNN) January 28, 2020
re: #49 jaunte
He’s just staring at the screen muttering “no collusion, no collusion.”
He’s going to wait for FNC to break it down for him in crayon.
re: #54 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Tonight’s entire Fox message appears to be Bolton Bad.
re: #40 BeachDem
Dershowitz talks about the framers as if he was “in the room where it happened” (to coin a phrase)—like he has seances with Hamilton and the gang (as opposed to statutory rape while wearing his underwear.) And his hand-waving is so obnoxious…as is everything else about him.
That’s it—if I want to watch a curmudgeon, I’m going to catch some Curb Your Enthusiasm episodes—Larry makes a lot more sense.
..I look in the mirror
This is the key difference between Biden and Trump. Biden was never freelancing . He was always on the Obama team advancing Obama Administration polices. Trump undermined his own administration’s policy! Not one senior nat security official on his team supported his “drug deal”. https://t.co/82zhrzaeM6
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) January 28, 2020
re: #56 jaunte
Tonight’s entire Fox message appears to be Bolton Bad.
Yeah as I said, Trump should talk to the guy who hired Bolton to be national security adviser. That guy’s totally fucked if Trump finds out who he was.
if the claims are false and Republicans know they’re false, then they’re lies
that’s the definition https://t.co/F8bH02rXdx— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) January 28, 2020
re: #42 Ace Rothstein
Trump’s “legal team” is a fucking shit show. I hope these galaxy brains know they’re never going to see a dime from him.
Well we’re paying the govt employee ones. Ie cipolloni
Dershowitz’s voice is starting to sound like…https://t.co/6VI3Pmz1qp
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
We’ve seen this movie.
“Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest human being I’ve ever known in my life!” https://t.co/mt9p45gw06— soonergrunt 🇺🇸 (@soonergrunt) January 28, 2020
2018
Dem: Bolton is bad. No.
Rep: He’s a patriot. Yes.
D: You don’t want him. His mustache is made of dead weasels.
R: He’s fine, Commie.
2020:
R: Holy Shit, Bolton betrayed us! He sucks! How…?
D: Fucking TOLD you.
R:
D:
R: You’re still wrong, Commie. https://t.co/FTS3RorJAY— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 28, 2020
re: #46 goddamnedfrank
Originalism is nothing more than right wing judicial activism by another name.
It’s bulkshit. It’s not literalism. It’s not the plain language of the Constitution. It’s whatever the right wingers want it to mean. It’s entirely results oriented - they have the result in mind, and this is how they’d justify it.
re: #36 jaunte
The Everyone Is Disposable Party.
When Trump falls, they will all have been in the resistance.
I kept receipts.
Did not expect President Trump’s impeachment attorneys to take time in their defense to also shoot a dig at the New York Time’s 1619 series, but here we are pic.twitter.com/KmpeFyY4u5
— Salvador Hernandez (@SalHernandez) January 28, 2020
The rule of lenity does not apply to impeachment. The purpose of impeachment is not to punish the person being impeached. The purpose of impeachment is to protect the Constitution and the Republic.
— Elizabeth de la Vega (@Delavegalaw) January 28, 2020
re: #46 goddamnedfrank
I’ve long called the conservative pretense of “originalism” to be nothing more than playing Ouija
It’s not even an honest Ouija board session. Instead these clowns decide all their cases as they please, and justify it in their opinions by pretending the founders would agree with them.
A moderately literate 4th grader could do exactly the same.
re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Who recommended Bolton as NSA? Huckabee? Giuliani? Fox and Friends?
(All of the above, right?)
Voters at the Biden event say they saw this. “She gave it away,” one told me. “This is all about hurting Biden in the election.” https://t.co/chGhPojRcX
— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) January 28, 2020
re: #50 The Pie Overlord!
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It’s all assinine
thats why I say it won’t last the test of time
Apparently won’t even last the day
re: #65 lawhawk
Originalism is nothing more than right wing judicial activism by another name.
It’s bulkshit. It’s not literalism. It’s not the plain language of the Constitution. It’s whatever the right wingers want it to mean. It’s entirely results oriented - they have the result in mind, and this is how they’d justify it.
It’s a very arrogant philosophy. I don’t know who developed it but he/she is up there with the person who developed Supply Side Economics and Prosperity Gospel as a con artist.
I’m sorry. I’m not buying this “abuse of power is a political term” argument. You only have power once you’re in office, not while you’re a candidate. What does Dershowitz suggest we call it when the president takes advantage of his office to commit extortion? #impeachment
— JackiSchechner (@JackiSchechner) January 28, 2020
re: #69 EPR-radar
It’s not even an honest Ouija board session. Instead these clowns decide all their cases as they please, and justify it in their opinions by pretending the founders would agree with them.
A moderately literate 4th grader could do exactly the same.
What I find most insulting about it as a student of history is acting like the Founders were a monolithic bloc of thinkers. Hamilton we all know had much different views on slavery than Jefferson in both theory and practice.
I was actually starting to semi-talk myself into being accustomed to Bernie Sanders as a real candidate, but then he hooked up with Joe Rogan and I was like oh right THAT’S why.
re: #50 The Pie Overlord!
By Dershowitz’s line of ‘reasoning’, it would not be impeachable if Trump ordered Federal agencies to put every member of Congress under 24/7 surveillance for the hell of it.
re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Biden was working in and for the govt and it’s policies
Trump was working around the govt, hiding what he was doing. For his personal not the countrys benefit
This is the key difference between Biden and Trump. Biden was never freelancing . He was always on the Obama team advancing Obama Administration polices. Trump undermined his own administration’s policy! Not one senior nat security official on his team supported his “drug deal”. https://t.co/82zhrzaeM6
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) January 28, 2020
re: #71 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Hey Team Joe, there’s an ad with your name on it.
— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) January 28, 2020
re: #76 Charles Johnson
I was actually starting to semi-talk myself into being accustomed to Bernie Sanders as a real candidate, but then he hooked up with Joe Rogan and I was like oh right THAT’S why.
If Sanders is the D nominee, I will vote for him in the general and expect him to shit the bed.
I honestly didn’t expect Alan Dershowitz to start furiously masturbating while crying angry tears, but nevertheless here we are
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 28, 2020
re: #78 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
Biden was working in and for the govt and it’s policies
Trump was working around the govt, hiding what he was doing. For his personal not the countrys benefit
This. Biden was advancing a bi-partisan and internationally agreed on policy. Trump was using Rudy, Igor, and Lev.
Dersh logic: “Would you convict somebody if he was found to have motive to commit a crime? No! How dare you look at what was in his mind.’
Dershowitz asserts that nothing in Bolton’s testimony would amount to impeachable conduct. So, if that’s the case, let’s hear it and let Congress & the American people decide the matter. Why hide it?
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 28, 2020
re: #76 Charles Johnson
I was actually starting to semi-talk myself into being accustomed to Bernie Sanders as a real candidate, but then he hooked up with Joe Rogan and I was like oh right THAT’S why.
I really hate who he surrounds himself with. I don’t have much optimism in him having a good team around him. Warren I concede is probably a little more ambitious than I am on economic reform but I believe she would surround herself with a good team. I haven’t found one Bernie surrogate that has really made me like him. Just a bunch of people who want me to ignore Bernie’s own problems and act like everyone else is a sell out but him.
Staffer: Senator Ernst if you do one thing, just don’t admit that the entire defense strategy is a political farce aimed at hurting Joe Biden
Ernst: The entire defense strategy is a political farce aimed at hurting Joe Bidenhttps://t.co/2Lbf2dR5aF— Rob Flaherty (@Rob_Flaherty) January 28, 2020
How many of you are screaming “BULLSHIT!!” at the TV as #AlanDershowitz pretzels himself in front of us to defend the odious Trump! None of the leaders Dershowitz has the gall to mention, were actually criminals, like this one is!! LET JOHN BOLTON SPEAK!!
— Bette Midler (@BetteMidler) January 28, 2020
re: #85 jaunte
It just makes no logical sense. But then again so would having turning over any documents. Trump knows he’s guilty or at least the people advising him do and they want to cover this up.
At the very moment that Alan Dershowitz mentions John Bolton in the impeachment trial, the New York Times publishes a new report that Bolton reported Trump to Attorney General William Barr for abuse of power.https://t.co/CxVLvUChlj
— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) January 28, 2020
This firehose has just gotten started.
re: #88 gocart mozart
Well Joni and her shit eating grin are going to be on a lot of TVs, monitors, and phones in the weeks and months to come. She gave away the game and I really hope the Biden team ahs a field day with this gift and I’m undecided between him/Warren.
I think people misunderstand the GOP strategy when taking on individual weak arguments.
They’re not trying to win the case. They’re trying to destroy the institutions. pic.twitter.com/54a9u98jej— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) January 27, 2020
re: #83 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
This. Biden was advancing a bi-partisan and internationally agreed on policy. Trump was using Rudy, Igor, and Lev.
Your explanation is better!
Ruh roh. https://t.co/hrBKoKWmoC
— Paul Begala (@PaulBegala) January 28, 2020
re: #91 jaunte
This firehose has just gotten started.
By the end of the week, FNC will be claiming that Bolton was an Obama holdover.
EXCLUSIVE: Bolton privately told Barr last year that he had concerns Trump was effectively granting personal favors to the autocrats of Turkey and China. Barr said he was concerned Trump created appearance he had undue influence on inquiries w/@maggieNYT https://t.co/4BTUc1SI6b
— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) January 28, 2020
re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth
Which is why they need to be annihilated in the fall.
re: #84 Dread Pirate
Dersh logic: “Would you convict somebody if he was found to have motive to commit a crime? No! How dare you look at what was in his mind.’
I’ll take conspiracies, what are they, for $100 alex
re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Show the fallibility of the market system when the markets can’t cope with deaths from an illness but are perfectly happy with deaths from guns. I have never seen such volatility in the markets than what has happened over the past 3 years. Could almost believe there is massive manipulation going on.
re: #97 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
That’s why even though I don’t like Bolton, he’s in a different league than Trump. An asshole, yes, but I don’t see Bolton as being about autocrat coddling like Trump. The neo-conservative world that Bolton comes from frankly sucks. And I hate the bastards with a passion for lying us into Iraq and Bolton especially for his own actions in and outside of the Bush administration but he’s not a dictator lover like Trump is. Warmongers suck. Dictator enablers suck even more.
re: #68 jaunte
In a sense, the House Managers of an impeachment trial are the guardians ad litem of the Constitution.
Then why didn’t Trump care in 2017 or 2018? https://t.co/MmF7jc6mjU
— Khary Penebaker, Fx (@kharyp) January 28, 2020
You know who worked as an intern for Alan Dershowitz?
Grotesque far right grifter Chuck C. Johnson, aka the Rage Furby.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
Who is NOT ME, I hasten to add.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
Dersh took a bazillion words to say YOU CAN’T IMPEACH A PRESIDENT FOR ABUSE OF POWER BECAUSE HE HAS UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!!!
This is a Gish Gallop on warp overdrive.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
I mean, he’s just spent an hour trying to explain why Abuse of Power isn’t what the founders thought, but has spent no time explaining why the violation of separation of power INHERENT in the obstruction of Congress charge, should also not be in there.
— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 28, 2020
JFC
I can’t help but thinking this speech from #Dershowitz is the closest @SenMikeLee and @SenTedCruz get to porn. Don’t stop Alan! Yessss!! https://t.co/FFZEyAPt5K
— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) January 28, 2020
Dershowitz says “dishonesty is a sin, not a crime.”
This is news for everyone convicted of perjury.— Greg Pinelo (@gregpinelo) January 28, 2020
re: #106 Charles Johnson
So you’re telling me that Ben Shapiro helped prepare Dersh today. Makes sense.
Okayforrealtho does this argument Dersh is making come with a free bowl of soup or what?
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 28, 2020
Dershowitz now explicitly arguing that even if Bolton’s book is true, it’s not impeachable.
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) January 28, 2020
In Dershowitz’s world, here’s a partial list of what a POTUS could do and stay in office:
—fire all evangelical employees
—pardon all terrorists
—cede Russia to Putin
—move to Saudi Arabia and take orders from MBS.
None of that is a crime! But all of it is impeachable. https://t.co/xipzHTsDds— Eric Columbus (@EricColumbus) January 28, 2020
re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth
This is reminding me of the Dave Chappelle skit about R Kelly.
re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth
JFC
Ted Cruz got quite a bit closer than that. Pornhub offers the movie free under the title “Ted Cruz Did Nothing Wrong!”
re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Explain what happened in those 55 days that made releasing the money ok
Then why didn’t Trump care in 2017 or 2018? https://t.co/MmF7jc6mjU
— Khary Penebaker, Fx (@kharyp) January 28, 2020
U.S. State Department bars NPR reporter from Pompeo’s upcoming trip after testy interview https://t.co/uzPqQKjEgT pic.twitter.com/UW3lVC9ABP
— Reuters (@Reuters) January 28, 2020
re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Ted Cruz got quite a bit closer than that. Pornhub offers the movie free under the title “Ted Cruz Did Nothing Wrong!”
Nah it was “Orange chode fucks Texas limp dick” starring him and Trump when he rolled over and stayed with Trump after Trump called his father a murderer.
re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Snowflake.
The legacy of creationist Duane Gish lives on in the Republican Party and their apologists.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
Large parts of Dershowitz’s presentation were about defending himself, which seems… odd.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
re: #121 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Snowflake.
LOL
Snowflake
— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) January 28, 2020
Dershowitz is a criminal defense lawyer, not a constitutional scholar. That’s why he represented Jeffery Epstein, OJ, & Claus von Bulow. 17 constitutional law professors wrote an open letter explaining that his #impeachment defense defies legal consensus.https://t.co/30FFMftZyw
— Steve Cohen (@RepCohen) January 25, 2020
We have always been at war with Johnbolton. pic.twitter.com/kIEUew1QyN
— Fats Durston (@FatsDurston) January 28, 2020
Wow, the State Department is removing an NPR reporter who was set to travel w/ Pompeo to Europe & Central Asia as part of the pool.
The State Department Correspondents’ Association says “we can only conclude that the State Department is retaliating against” NPR. (via @jmhansler)— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) January 27, 2020
The man who *actually* argued for Clinton’s impeachment but now says he was wrong then as he argues against Trump’s impeachment, has the nerve to suggest that lawyers on the other side would *hypothetically* argue against this impeachment if Trump were a Democrat. What silliness.
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) January 28, 2020
re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Eric Columbus
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In Dershowitz’s world, here’s a partial list of what a POTUS could do and stay in office:
The tweet seems to be gone. Probably because the “cede Russia to Putin” line.
One big difference between the two parties? If Dershowitz were representing a Democrat, every single Republican would’ve mentioned the name Epstein at least once to at least one reporter today.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) January 28, 2020
A change of pace! Lovely to look at, but I’m not sure I want to be there.
A Floating Hotel with Aurora Views Just Opened on a Frozen River in Sweden
re: #129 garzooma
The tweet seems to be gone. Probably because the “cede Russia to Putin” line.
he fixed it
In Dershowitz’s bizarro world, POTUS would avoid impeachment even if he
—fired all evangelical employees
—pardoned all terrorists
—ceded Alaska to Putin
—moved to Saudi Arabia and took orders from MBS.
No crimes on that list — but this is precisely what impeachment is for. https://t.co/xipzHTsDds— Eric Columbus (@EricColumbus) January 28, 2020
EXCLUSIVE: Bolton privately told Barr last year that he had concerns Trump was effectively granting personal favors to the autocrats of Turkey and China. Barr said he was concerned Trump created appearance he had undue influence on inquiries w/@maggieNYT https://t.co/4BTUc1SI6b
— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) January 28, 2020
re: #27 BeachDem
But she looks genuinely delighted as she spews. Wonder why they don’t have Tim in their little gaggle like they did last week. Guess they figured his work was done when they got a photo op with a BLACK MAN.
re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
LOL
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It’s so funny to me because their memes constantly mock “liberal snowflakes” but Mary Louise got him to ban her from his trip. SAD!
— Autarkh (@Autarkh) January 28, 2020
So I wondered why on earth Times New Roman is trending now, and stumbled across this gem:
Why use Arial or Times New Roman when you can use Ugly Gerry, the font made entirely out of gerrymandered congressional districts? pic.twitter.com/V1OcsNiJMu
— “President” Cornman Cornmansson (@RealCornmanC) January 28, 2020
Let me amend my last tweet to describe “Friend of Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Dershowitz, and accused sexual abuser, Alan Dershowitz. How did this awful person wind up defending this awful POTUS. Well, I will say this. He certainly knows about abuse of power.
— Bette Midler (@BetteMidler) January 28, 2020
re: #65 lawhawk
Originalism is nothing more than right wing judicial activism by another name.
It’s bulkshit. It’s not literalism. It’s not the plain language of the Constitution. It’s whatever the right wingers want it to mean. It’s entirely results oriented - they have the result in mind, and this is how they’d justify it.
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master— that’s all.”
Dasvidaniya, Alaska. He’s lookin’ at you next Cali. https://t.co/39J2lGcx17
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) January 28, 2020
Did Chucky at least keep his underwear in?
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) January 28, 2020
The most truth you’ll see on Twitter today. 😹 #CatsOfTwitter pic.twitter.com/orQFNf5aAL
— Mac The Cat 🐱 (@MacTheGingerCat) January 28, 2020
Bolton book roils Washington, as people familiar with the manuscript say he will detail negative info about Trump in spades on Turkey, Venezuela and other issues & onetime allies turn on Trump’s former national security adviser. W/@karendeyoung1: https://t.co/x0VPEgJwPQ
— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) January 28, 2020
“Bolton was regularly appalled by what he saw from the president…
He wondered at times if Trump was acting in America’s best interest or if he was inspired by nefarious reasons, according to a person familiar with the book.” https://t.co/qhhRq5dDy7— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) January 28, 2020
Just saying…🤔 pic.twitter.com/JwUdf1oX7R
— Some are saying… (@michele_o4) January 28, 2020
I’m so angered by what I saw today that I keep typing and then deleting tweets.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 28, 2020
re: #142 Dread Pirate
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“Bolton was regularly appalled by what he saw from the president…
He wondered at times if Trump was acting in America’s best interest or if he was inspired by nefarious reasons,
Didn’t force him to quit or blow the whistle or anything
re: #145 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
And he refuses to testify under oath without being forced. Some fucking patriot.
He’s angling for a way to keep his GOP credibility on the grifter/war circuit.
re: #69 EPR-radar
It’s not even an honest Ouija board session. Instead these clowns decide all their cases as they please, and justify it in their opinions by pretending the founders would agree with them.
A moderately literate 4th grader could do exactly the same.
You mean like how they use God.
re: #146 lawhawk
And he refuses to testify under oath without being forced. Some fucking patriot.
He’s angling for a way to keep his GOP credibility on the grifter/war circuit.
Bolton is a Republican, therefore he is a turd. He may be a temporarily useful turd, but that’s the most we can expect unless/until a change of party complete with contrition, remorse and substantial acts of atonement.
re: #147 Belafon
You mean like how they use God.
And the constitution. Everything modern Republicans know about making arguments they learned from the creationist whack jobs they invited into their big tent.
Given Bondi’s Trump U issue, https://t.co/LeKCIkfQS2, and connection to under-explored Parnas/Rudy/Firtash part of the Ukraine scandal, it takes some real hubris, or faith in her rhetorical skill, for Trump to put her on his defense team. https://t.co/5TI1cPvm2g
— Dan Friedman (@dfriedman33) January 27, 2020
Jesus Christ Tracey is thick
Dershowitz raised a valid hypothetical: say a future president (Bernie?) withholds aid to Israel unless they cease settlement construction. Per this precedent, Bernie could be accused of impeachable offenses if he can be portrayed as obtaining a “political benefit” by doing so
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 28, 2020
2014-2019:
•Hunter Biden made $3M from Burisma
•Hunter had no Govt job
2018:
•Ivanka & Jared made $135M
•Both are senior advisors to 45 & rep him on the world stage
GOP so outraged at Hunter’s nepotism they did nothing for 4 years of controlling both House AND Senate🤔— Qasim Rashid for Congress (@QasimRashid) January 28, 2020
re: #152 gocart mozart
Jesus Christ Tracey is thick
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re: #152 gocart mozart
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re: #152 gocart mozart
God that’s stupid. What part of the president being impeachable for disobeying Congress do these fuckwits not get?
If Congress appropriates foreign aid and this aid is enacted into law, the president has no right to unilaterally not do that later on, and the only available remedy for presidential defiance on this point is impeachment and removal from office.
Demanding that there be meta-law that specifically states that the US president has to act according to the laws passed by Congress is the stupidest thing ever.
Seriously, if submitted as a film treatment, this whole escapade would be rejected by every studio
TODAY: “Ukraine’s new ambassador to Washington says the United States does indeed care about his country, despite reports that the U.S. secretary of state says otherwise.” - @DefTechPat #NPR #Pompeo https://t.co/XGkCiTGxel
— Kevin Baron (@DefenseBaron) January 28, 2020
Snowflake much? https://t.co/1PDWwyB0ZW
— Annise Parker (@AnniseParker) January 28, 2020
Know what goes with Corona virus?
Lyme Disease.— Joe (@CPO_JOE) January 28, 2020
Throw whatever crap you can at the wall. The mess is the point. https://t.co/vT5zLXdgWO
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) January 28, 2020
“…and that we should not be using the president’s intent as part of understanding impeachment. Criminal law is all about intent. Mens rea is the heart of criminal law. That’s the very basis of it. So it makes his whole presentation just nonsensical. I truly could not follow it”
— Emma Loop (@LoopEmma) January 28, 2020
re: #156 EPR-radar
God that’s stupid. What part of the president being impeachable for disobeying Congress do these fuckwits not get?
If Congress appropriates foreign aid and this aid is enacted into law, the president has no right to unilaterally not do that later on, and the only available remedy for presidential defiance on this point is impeachment and removal from office.
Demanding that there be meta-law that specifically states that the US president has to act accordingly to the laws passed by Congress is the stupidest thing ever.
They get it
They’re just fishing for excuses they can vote on and justify later
Warren on Dershowitz’s presentation: “I truly could not follow it.”
— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 28, 2020
“Imagine you are a United States Senator and you are sitting in an impeachment trial” Cipollone says to United States Senators sitting in an impeachment trial
— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) January 28, 2020
ah well that clears it right up then pic.twitter.com/B1mo2hUJ3N
— Talia Lavin (@chick_in_kiev) January 28, 2020
Living on his own planet in a lonely galaxy far far away.
The Democrat controlled House never even asked John Bolton to testify. It is up to them, not up to the Senate!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 27, 2020
The members of Trump’s legal team seemed very happy. After they recessed for the night Pam Bondi told Dershowitz: “Today was the first day where I wished I was back in law school.”
— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) January 28, 2020
He gave a laundry list of excuses for the Republicans to use to vote not guilty.
re: #169 Dread Pirate
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He gave a laundry list of excuses for the Republicans to use to vote not guilty.
All 53 of them were going to do that anyway.
re: #169 Dread Pirate
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He gave a laundry list of excuses for the Republicans to use to vote not guilty.
Exactly. A Gish galloper provided a semi-infinite set of lies to his audience (Republican senators) that they all want to believe.
re: #168 The Pie Overlord!
Living on his own planet in a lonely galaxy far far away.
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You’re right. They didn’t ask. They demanded. He refused. Blamed it on you in fact
The Democrat controlled House never even asked John Bolton to testify. It is up to them, not up to the Senate!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 27, 2020
When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the Dershowitz is talking backwards
And the red team is off their meds
Remember what the Morissette said
Irony is dead, irony is dead— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) January 28, 2020
re: #169 Dread Pirate
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He gave a laundry list of excuses for the Republicans to use to vote not guilty.
Sen. Scott applauded at end
because of course he did. Ugh
re: #169 Dread Pirate
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He gave a laundry list of excuses for the Republicans to use to vote not guilty.
Laundry list
Kitchen sink
Spaghetti
So many metaphors so few impeachmemts
A story that’s been debunked by several of Trump’s own appointees. https://t.co/1KmpQHqEQh
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 27, 2020
— Mindful Primate (@MichellesDude) January 27, 2020
re: #65 lawhawk
Originalism is nothing more than right wing judicial activism by another name.
It’s bulkshit. It’s not literalism. It’s not the plain language of the Constitution. It’s whatever the right wingers want it to mean. It’s entirely results oriented - they have the result in mind, and this is how they’d justify it.
I’d like to remind Thomas that “originalism” also included slavery in various guises.
re: #177 mmmirele
I’d like to remind Thomas that “originalism” also included slavery in various guises.
I’m sure he put that inconvenient thought in a mental lock box long ago.
GAAAK!!
Oh yes this is absolutely a great idea for a campaign with a history of misogyny that also just celebrated the endorsement of a sentient bottle of Axe.
— Andy (@trtx84) January 28, 2020
re: #179 The Pie Overlord!
GAAAK!!
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Just waiting for a video of Bernie as the Ty-D-Bowl man that I can flush…
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