Yes I agree...beheading infidels is a much more appropriate sport for the young Saudi men.

Go fly a kite!

(Oops! Sorry. Kite flying is un-Islamic, too. . .)

Fun is un-Islamic. Eternal misery and warfare is obviously Allah's plan for all of us. I'm convinced. Where do I sign up?

Breathing is un-islamic

friggin morons.

and the participants wear shorts

No serious football players wear shorts.

OH, they mean girlie-man football. Bah, who cares about soccer ?

:-)

Are these cleric's on theonion.com's payroll? It sounds like they are.

Jihad is constructive?

This is yet again a manifestation of Islam's pathology.

Is it un-Islamic if it's Muslim football?

sounds to me like the clerics know that they suck at soccer, and will for quite some time...

OTOH, they know that young Muslims are VERY good at strappin' on the ol' bomb belt.

Sounds to me like they just want to focus the youth...

F*ck the Saudi clerics. Once people in this country figure out that Islamists would take away their beer, look out! They're history.

Wonder if they strapped bomb belts on their players could the un-islamic dress be overlooked?..After all it would be training and definitely not a waste of time

Yes, why play football when you can be blowing up innocent women and children? Shame on the Saudi youngsters for playing games instead of doing something with their lives --- like losing their lives.

#11 Ward Cleaver

F*ck the Saudi clerics. Once people in this country figure out that Islamists would take away their beer, look out! They're history.

Yeah, I pity the fool clerics that try to take away Sarah D's beer and put her in a burkha.

"There is no fun in Islam."

-Khoemini

Actually if other clerics follow up and try to ban soccer, I think it will backfire and cause the Moslem male youth to be less radical. We need more fatwa's like this.

Saudi Islamic killjoys:

Stop it or you'll go blind!

The ulema argued that football wastes a lot of time

So is the camel beauty contest next?
Huba-huba

OOOPss... the actual fatwa [I AM NOT KIDDING] read like 'Youths must devote more time to constructive activities like JIHAD than wasting time on football.

When I get hold of that URL where I read the whole fatwa, i am sure to post it here.

Don't these people have anything better to do with their time than to sit there and think up more things to forbid people to do?

What a bunch of wasters of oxygen.

Any fatwah on luge yet?

What about speed skating? Does Allah have anything against winter sports?

What, they've never heard of soccer imams?

As a Wisconsin-based Packer backer, I'm happy to know that football is anti-Islamic.

Even though the Packers played like crap in their last preseason game.

for the second time tonight--WTF? this cant be for real--ohh dem mooslims-lol

#23--broncos 3-0--watch out-lol

#20 Amy

Don't these people have anything better to do with their time than to sit there and think up more things to forbid people to do?

Such questions are forbidden!

20 Amy

What a bunch of wasters of oxygen.

Maybe you have that backward. Maybe they need more aerobic excercise to clear their minds out. Maybe they need to be using more oxygen...

"Puritanism - The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." -- H.L. Mencken

#20--well they cant be molesting the goats and camels 24/7

#22 Gagdad Bob

That one's been used before, but it does fit.

You *know* these mullahs got picked last for teams. That's why they're trying to get the ball stuck up on the garage roof.

I gues he means:
"while you silly boys are sitting here playing soccer, the Americans are kicking Muslim butt in Iraq. Now get the heck to Iraq and try to beat back the Crusaders."

go ahead, boys
Abu Ghraib and Gitmo still have room for you

#30 Earth2moonbat

Sorry. I should have mentioned that it was a summer re-run gag. Too busy with newborn Gagson to come up with new material. It is now officially retired.

these guys got no balls and dont want any others to have them

aww gagdad--congrats! how old?

Once people in this country figure out that Islamists would take away their beer, look out! They're history.

Not to mention that they want bikinis banned and replaced with these. They're cause is doomed. Young men will always play ball games, and young women will always want to wear pretty clothes. Simplistic, I know. But once people have tasted fun and freedom, it's pretty hard to make go back.

Let's take up a collection to send a million soccer balls to the mideast.

Oh no! That means Mido will have to quit Tottenham Hotspur or have his head chopped off. Saudi clerics have nothing better to do. Go jump in a lake, if that is permissable in Islam.

Gosh, I have to agree...soccer is a complete waste of time...Only one week to real American football! And just kidding about agreeing to anything with those people.

Don't miss the next fatwa coming to a Jeddah mosque in your neighbourhood : Toilet paper, Verbotten ! Licking fingers, ok!

The Saudis are very good at exporting their self-made problems to other nations. Isn't it time we stopped kissing their asses and started kicking them?

They are so Islamic that they have to kill other Muslims to prove it. The mosque hijacking in 1979 should have clued us into just how crazy these inbred camel-humpers really are. But nooo... Oil companies talked us into the "modern, advancing Saudi Arabia." The supply of BS is endless. If only we could harness it for energy.

#27 Earth2moonbat

Maybe they need to be using more oxygen...

no, no, no. They need to be using much less oxygen

link

#40--forgive my ignorance--why is the bush family sooo friendly with the saudis? im a bush fan, but that alliance makes me uneasy

#36
I've seen those before, but didn't notice this bullett:

Made from water repellant material.

I guess that's so they are too clingy, as in "wet t-shirt"
too funny

40, 42

I recently listened to this book on tape
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

it is awesome
this woman was married to, then divorced a Bin Laden
She dishes a lot of dirt on the Saudis
a great background book on the problems of Saudi Arabia and Islam itself

@39 Frank_mtl

Toilet paper, Verbotten ! Licking fingers, ok!

That is so bad! *lmao!

Hey, the fellows are just catching up with the gals, who are experts on what is un-Islamic.

Whistle blown on women footballers

Kuwaiti women already play tennis, volleyball and basketball, but football it seems has been a step too far for the Islamists.

36 Bad Penny

LOL
I typed in "bras" in search and it came back with "NO match". Makes you wonder if they wear any undergarments. Maybe the "female" of the species is agamogenetic and they are attempting to conceal that fact.

friarstale--thx-i have to do a lot more reading i guess - afriend of my 2 sons moved to n.m.-fell in love w/girl from "persia"- is converting--cant understand-will have to cease all contact-sigh

well, which football are we talking about? American, or some foreign abomination?

Banning fun, how noble.

#45 quark2
Not so far remote from what the stupidity of fatwas is all about, really :-)

charles--how soon before they go after bike riders--those tight, sexy licra shorts, ya know

35 mikeymom

Son of Gagdad is now four months old, but to me he's still a newborn. I don't know if this link will work or not:

[Link: www.kodakgallery.com...]

#42 mikeymom

#40--forgive my ignorance--why is the bush family sooo friendly with the saudis? im a bush fan, but that alliance makes me uneasy

Ever since oil was discovered under them thar deserts, every president has been friendly with the Saudis. Money and oil buy a lot of influence. Saudi money allows Arabists in the State Department to retire into nice lobbying jobs.

The Bush family, along with many other wealthy Americans, industries, casinos, hookers, bars, and hotels have lucrative business ties to the Saudis. It's not a closely-guarded secret.

Maybe ten years ago, a Saudi prince left a suitcase filled with hundred dollar bills and jewlery on a hotel counter in Orlando. That's how rich they are. I don't think it was returned. They send their children here to be educated, and pay top dollar out-of-state tuition to do it. A Saudi princess, along with every Saudi it seems, abused her servants while she lived here. They (Orlando, Orange County) just sent her back.

With CAIR, MPAC, MESA, the State Department, Energy, and everyone connected with oil supporting them, the Saudis can literally do no wrong.

A fatwa will be issued by the same Saudi clerics for Tennis, Golf, Baseball, American college football, the NFL, the NHL, the NBA, fishing, the Olympics, Cricket (that one is OK by me), Rugby, Aussie rules football, F1 racing, NASCAR, poker,, horse racing, swimming, boxing, WWF, badminton, beach volleyball Hay!, tour de France and any other decadent activity that brings shame to Islam. Have I missed anything AISHA?

48, mikeymom
I like books on tape
fills the commute time better than radio does
that one by Carmen Bin Laden was incredible
once she finally divorced him, she knew she could never go back to saudi Arabia
they could easily accuse her of adultery and sentence her to death
she was very brave just to write the book

"football wastes a lot of time and the participants wear shorts,..." AH HA! That's it - football takes away time which could be better spent making bomb vests, backpacks and the like. But (and let's face it, the Arab World has contributed absolutely nothing positive to the development of civilization, although they do seem to have "seething" down to a "T") the real problem here is the SHORTS.
Allah forbid someone should see someone else's BARE legs!

I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry at this idiocy.

#54---SOOO cool-thx for sharing! you are truly blessed,guy! i AM SO READY for grandbabies-2 sons, 28 and 25--but--they are NOT getting the job done!i volunteer for grandmotherly babysitting services whenever you need!

#55 Beagle

With CAIR, MPAC, MESA, the State Department, Energy, and everyone connected with oil supporting them, the Saudis can literally do no wrong.

...That is until the Crude ceases to flow and it will...

#54 Gaghdad Bob

You're a lucky guy. Pictures like that still rip me to pieces. You have the exact same little play baby bed we did. Congratulations.

#58--as an ex-librarian, i prefer the printed page-lol-will look at it at local liberry on my weekly visit- (6-8) books a week on average

They're going to do some hasty damage control on this one. If not, they'll learn the power of a truly transnational movement with a devoted, fanatical following and the power to command press attention. Soccer ("footy") will kick Islam's ass.

"GO-O-O-O-OAL!"

In related news, mullahs in America wish to outlaw the teaching of evolution. I'd trade Darwin for baseball tomorrow.

Qur'an 002.106 1/2
And the Prophet joined the game with his followers but he grew hot and tired so he stripped off his robe and was naked.
Asa Ali confronted the Prophet asking if his nakedness was proper. The Prophet answered,"but of course, I am the Messenger, as naked before you as I am before Allah" So the game continued with the camel hide ball in the heat and dust.
Suddenly, the Prophet was struck in the groin by the ball and fell to the ground. The game ended. That night, the Prophet awoke and called to Allah. "Oh Allah, I have been struck down in a game and made to look foolish." And Allah answered his Messenger, "You took a shot to the balls, it's part of the game. That's what happens when you play naked. I'd suggest you kill the other team."
And in the morning the Prophet summoned the men from the other team and had the true believers smite their necks.
So ended the playing of games.

Oh brother.

#64--ya think? i've never seen them reverse their viewpoints on anything--is it in the koran that football(soccer0 is evil?

#63
i'm in awe!
I wish I could read more, but have 3 and 7 year old sons, and a demanding wife!
I treasure my books on tape while driving to work
Moby Dick on tape was awesome, perfectly read by... I forget whom
I didn't want to listen to anything else for a while after that, it was so well done

charles--c'mon-that was tooo funny!

Pigskin? DUH! What took 'em so long? And here my fantasy team was gonna be called al-Qu'Bz bin Passin! Oh, they mean futbol? Nevermind...

#69--read to them!im sure you do--when my second son had some reading probs in 1st and 2nd grade, i would read him roald dahl books-james and giant peach, etc- i;d read 1 chapter aloud, he's read the next--really turned him around-lol

richard scary picture books were a big fav too---!

I do read to them
recently read Ol' Yeller
and a condensed Tom Sawyer

he asked about 9-11 after hearing about it in school

If soccer short throw them into a snit Id like to see them debate the merits of sumo wrestling.

"Oh sweet Allah! Now THATS un-Islamic!"

#66 bonz
LOL

good night all-gonna go read--latest is ari fleichers account of his days as bush's press secretary--love that guy!

#46 Brenda - that's so, so unbelievable! Do their female tennis players wear burqhas? What about basketball? volleyball?*
That is a VERY SICK society.

*I noticed in that same article that beach volleyball must not be broadcast as it would enable Muslim Men to, essentially, ogle Muslim Women.
What about men's tennis, basketball, volleyball and football? Doesn't that give Muslim Woman a chance to "ogle" Muslim Men?

Sick, sick,sick.

illiterality,

If you're going to hit-and-run, could you at least try to make sense?

Pick up a book, read it. Learn about Wahhabism, Qutb, the Muslim Brotherhood, Koran, anything about Islam really. Throw us a bone here.

Hardly anyone wants to ban the teaching of evolution, nimrod. You are free to ignore religious leaders in the United States. When your only argument is moral equivalence between completely different situations, your intellectual toolbox is empty.

#75 Mr. E. Train - It may, or may not be unIslamic, but it sure as hell is unattractive, to say the least!

Don't you mean soccer?

#54 Gagdad Bob

Congratulations! Great pics.

#60 mikeymom

I became a grandfather for the first time last month. It's the greatest thing since my children were born. I'm lovin' it.

#80-realwest-lol---was at a colorado casino today--say a female person that was sooo huge--sumo type--her belly and belly botton stuck out from her t -shirt and shorts by a foot-and yes-shorts--legs were humongous-no sense of modesty--wanted to puke-

#82--congrats! now i'm goona smack ya-lol

#67 Charles - to whom was your "on brother" comment directed? I think most of the comments on this thread are very funny, in an adolescent sort of way, which, after all, is the only way to deal with Muslim's "civil" society. (nd yes, I know, using Muslim and society in the same sentence is an oxymoron).

May be wrong but I seem to recall our Gov here in Cali stating something to the effect that "Only little girls and Belgium mercenaries play soccer".

#85 realwest

#67 Charles - to whom was your "on brother" comment directed?

Someone pooped on aisle #65.

Is this what the Saudis are resorting to in order to avoid the embarassment of seeing Israel qualify for the World Cup and the Saudis fail to qualify?

realwest--just wondering-friendly style--why are you on charles' ass lately(personally i would like to be on his tightly toned, bike ridin' ass!)

soon, the only sport moslems will be permitted to play is "kill the infidel,"
a leisure activity that has received the official approval of every imam and ayatollah who has been interviewed on the subject

Perhaps we could appease the mullahs (I'm a democrat just for today) through some changes to soccer (football). First off, strikers could carry swords. Foul for slicing the ball. And if your goal is mobbed, the goalie is allowed to approach the opposing players, no further than the edge of the goal box, and detonate himself. Imagine the reaction of the crowd if you could crash an airliner into the opposing goal! Or at a specially-constructed stadium with custom-made seating, start launching whole benches of home team spectators, aflame, into the opposing stands!

"GOA-A-AL!"

[awkward silence]

"JIHA-A-A-A-A-AD!"

ot

Have any you Lizards read this yet?

America's Secret War: Inside the Hidden Worldwide Struggle Between America and Its Enemies

by George Friedman

I was perusing over a TOPSECRET blog and linked to excerpts of this book. Fairly intriguing to say the least.

The First page

Rayra, more journalists being killed makes it worse than Vietnam for them. For all that they screech about American dead and wounded, they wax eloquently on the deaths of their fellow travellers. After all they are more important than the men and women fighting the war. People who become journalists are elitist and see themselves as being of a higher caste than us shlubs. Therefore their deaths are felt more and are more important. Without the journalist, how would we know what to think? And what to say? And what to feel? You'd think that they'd get a clue about the jihadis especially after all the beheadings bombings of civilians. They're reaping what they sow.

# 50 Ray

FWIW, I tried the link from the old thread and it didn't work!
:-)

Perhaps another victim of Internet Haganah?
:-)

#92 MARS Trucker

I haven't seen this book yet. I had started reading the 9/11 Commission report but then I stopped to read Peter Lance's two books, "1000 Years of Revenge" and "Cover Up". The second one is about items the 9/11 Commission left out of its report.

Does the troll think evolutionary theory is taught in the Magic Kingdom, or is he just being a twerp?

Gordon can do better than that.

Do they mean soccer or American football? These turds are the ultimate in wetblankets!

[Link: www.adnki.com...]

Per the above story, this happened in 2002. As a result, three guys joined Al-Qaeda. Two suicided, and one is in prison in Iraq.

OT:

I have no idea how real this is, but it's just been brought to my attention and is...very strange:

Christopher Walken for President 2008.

I figured Lizaroids might like to look.

#68--mikeymom,
No, I don't actually expect any of them to recant, revise, or otherwise get less wrong. But I do think that lots of high-profile mullah types will see it the way #16--Georgian does, and debate the point. No doubt this is currently occurring in private, waiting for the public debate. You know, Islamic style, with a death sentence for the loser.

Banagor, it's not real. Walken has denied that he is running for president after that website went up.

#101 RayH

Banagor, it's not real. Walken has denied that he is running for president after that website went up.

Isn't it a Fark.com "more cowbell!" gag?

Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was real or not. I just glanced at it and it just doesn't...really look right. Amateurish etc...

Still, I figured somebody might have a laugh or debunk it at least on here.

#100--yes-but--before or after they "SCCCOOORREEE"

#101 RayH

Banagor, it's not real. Walken has denied that he is running for president after that website went up.

Well now, since that one was quashed rapidly and succinctly, how about reiterating Condi for Prez.

Spiny Norman, it may well be, I only found out about the Walken thing due to my reading Day by Day,the internet comic strip by Chris Muir.

Mars Trucker, yeah well I read that she has denied wanting to run for president also. Can't remember where, but she more believable when she says she's not than Hillary.

#87 Beagle - thanks - I had my suspicions about that one!

#89 mikeymom - I'm on Charles ass lately?
Jeez, I certainly didn't intend to be. I'd ask for examples but I know you must have them and would therefor only be even further embarrassed than I already am !

FOR THE RECORD - I think Charles is the best!
We may have had some disagreements in the past (I don't remember any, but if there were I'm sure we disagreed without being disagreeable.)
You have NO idea of how badly your comment made me feel (not the idea that he and I may disgree from time to time) but that "I'm on his ass" sort of indicates more than mere disagreement. I really am upset by your comment.

# 97 Jake

It's a BBC report -- so this football is of the metric variety ...
:-)

Yeah going over the site now more than just the front page, it looks absolutely fake. They posted shots of him in movies etc...at least it looks like it.

Kind of funny though, and I could hear his voice in my head while I was reading it.

Good gag.

Condi 2008

# 108 rw

Hey -- relax -- I didn't think your question was anything more than asking a clarification re: Charles' comment -- someone is overreactimg ...

Chris Walken is quiet, conservative (in a general sense - he keeps quiet about politics), and the last guy on earth who would run for President.

"Offscreen, I'm ordinary, predictable and very conservative. I have two houses, a station wagon, cats, the same wife of 28 (more like 36 now) years, and I like to save money."

#89 Mikeymom - I mean I'm REALLY UPSET AND CONCERNED about your comment. If your still around feel free to e-mail me.
Charles if I've offended you some how (offended as opposed to perhaps disagreed) please let me know - e-mail or post, whichever.

108 realwest

Aw, please don't feel bad. Don't make me come up there and hug you.

:)

Mars Trucker, nice site. But one problem, it says that it is the unofficial website dedicated to generating excitement about the possibility of Condi running. If she actually were the DNC and it's attack machine the MSM, would be in full attack mode trying to smear her. They'd probably be using Cindy Sheehan to do it too.

#108 realwest

FOR THE RECORD - I think Charles is the best!
We may have had some disagreements in the past (I don't remember any, but if there were I'm sure we disagreed without being disagreeable.)

Is this not what it's all about? I think most of would love the challenge to spar with Charles once in a while, as it would be a great learning experience debating a great mind like Charles :)

#116 RayH
I believe it's a way for her supporters to "Test the Waters" if you will. She would "win" if she ran and especially against Hillary.

#115 Cattt - ooh oooh - what else can I say to get you to come up here and hug me - just name it and you got it!

MARS trucker, I agree, she's got my vote if she runs.

#117 MARS Trucker - "as it would be a great learning experience debating a great mind like Charles :) Maybe for some of us, probably not a great learning experience for Charles.

#112 Buckaroo - got another treatment/analysis thingy tomorrow so have to go bed soon, but I'd appreciate it, if you're still around, if you would e-mail me.

I didn't notice another post asking this, so I will: Could this be a warning that football games are among the next targets? I wonder if there would be any low ratio accounts of muslim fatalities, a' la Jews supposedly pre-warned to avoid the twin towers on 9/11.

# 122 rw

Done!

Condi will never get the nomination. She has no political experience and no stage presence. Ideologically, she is incompatible with hard right of the GOP and the anti-jihaders aren't too impressed with her either. She has no major accomplishments that can outweigh the fact that she was NSA at the time of 9/11. She is not another Colin Powell. He was a combat officer who was also Head of the JCS during the First Gulf War.

Reggie, with all the fatwas coming out of these imams' pieholes, I seriously doubt it. But you can't discount some jihadi martyr wannabe from taking that way. Better yet, since the US is the Great Satan, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone wear a bomb vest into a Packers game. Be easier to conceal under a parka.

# 123 reg

Well, jihadis have already tried to blow up Old Trafford and the Bernabeu -- so it's certinaly a possiblity ...

#121 realwest
Don't sell you or anyone else short. I'm sure Charles could point out a few instances where he "learned" a thing or two from his "minions". After all, this blog would be pretty one-sided without our input and disagreements. Check some of the anti-LFG blogs out there and you'll see what I mean. Some of them have cut off their comments sections entirely because they can't handle feed-back from well thought out posters like you. ;)

I like football even more now.
Funny how that works.

#125 Jakester

Condi will never get the nomination. She has no political experience and no stage presence.

..and her current post does not require any of the qualities mentioned above? And since when are these qualities a requirement to run this country? No offense but, "Sometimes the right man for the job is a woman."

Political: as in running for and getting elected to office and the kind of public presence that one needs for that. Everyone who was elected to President in recent history was at least a Governor or a Senator, better yet a VP.

#125 Jakester, lack of experience didn't stop Hillary from running for the Senate. Of course she'll use that to tout herself. But really, what has she done that she should be considered for the presidency (Hillary). Condi has as meaningful experience as she does. I was thinking about this earlier and I was amised by how the Demos hailed kerry's vas intelligence. Granted, he went to college and got a degree but next to Condi he's such a poser. But Hillary is smarter than kerry. And far more devious. Therefore more dangerous and stands a better chance at winning the White House.

#131 Jakester

Everyone who was elected to President in recent history was at least a Governor or a Senator, better yet a VP.

I beg to differ...

U.S. Grant

...everybody cut loose

foot-loose...

WELCOME TO SAUDI ARABIA!

I'm suprised the rest of you Muslims stand by while your clerics blow you into submission or muscle you into submission.

Ya know, it *does* sound like a societal psychosis...submission...they should call it abrogation...perhpas abdication...

meh

...and when did Google start using answers.com instead of dictionary.com for definitions? ...definitely adding the nebulous and twisting to the mix...so watch what your kids minds get colored with...

...speaking of, anyone know how to tint lucite?

Jakester, I could be wrong but I think that the only senator to win the presidency was JFK. His brother Robert would've won without having been a govenor or senator or vp.
I think that the way it is going, Guliani is going to get the nod for the republican nomination, with hillary (controlling the fund raising on the left)getting the nomination for the left. Rudy would be the winner I think.

MARS trucker, Grant is an excellent point. Sherman if he had chosen to run would've been another. Although I wonder what would have happened if Robert E. Lee had run for as the democratic nominee for president after the war? This would make for a good alternate history novel I think.

Hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Another "inexperienced" President.

Eisenhower

MARS Trucker
Eisenhower is the only Republican my mother has ever voted for. She claims there is NO WAY she would ever vote for Hillary. I figure anyone who would vote for John Kerry would vote for anyone, so I can't say I believe her...

...aaah, that kind of football...soccer. Shorts! Hmmm...Muslims!

OT but can't help it.

...In Iraq right now the glass is around two-thirds full, and those two thirds will not be drained down to Sunni Triangle levels of despair. There are 1 million new cars on the road since 2003, a statistic that no doubt just lost us warhawks that Sierra Club endorsement but which doesn't sound like a nation mired in hopelessness. A new international airport has been opened in the north to cope with the Kurdish tourist and economic boom. Faruk Mustafa Rasool is building a 28-story five-star hotel with a revolving restaurant and a cable-car link to downtown Sulaimaniya.

To be sure, we shouldda done this, and we shouldda done that. Yet nonetheless Iraq advances day by day. The real quagmire is at home, where the kinkily gleeful relish of defeatism manifested by Cindy Sheehan, Joan Baez, Ted Kennedy et al. bears less and less relationship to anything happening over there. Iraq's future is a matter for the Iraqis now -- which, given the U.S. media, Democrat blowhards like Joe Biden and Republican squishes like Chuck Hagel, is just as well.

New constitution has something for everyone

I got this from an email from Israel...about his opinion whether Katrina was related to Gaza:

Katrina and Gaza: is G-d speaking in New Orleans?

"This is what YHVH says, who gives the sun to be a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars to be a light by night, who stirs up the sea, so that its waves roar; YHVH of Armies is His name" (Jer.31:35)

The past two weeks have seen Israel withdraw from Gaza as a result of (among other things) American policy and pressure. In previous newsletters we have quoted US State Department and Presidential statements to that effect.

The rushing onset of Hurricane Katrina is shocking and ominous. Check out [Link: www.stratfor.com...] --breaking article "The Geopolitics of Katrina" for the potential strategic damage that could be caused to the US and global economy and petroleum industry as a result of this hurricane. The Port of Southern Louisiana is the USA's largest port and the fifth largest in the world in terms of tonnage. It is America's key port for grain export. Approximately 25% of U.S. produced crude oil comes from the Gulf of Mexico.

Consider Bill Koenig's web site [Link: www.watch.org...] and his book "Eye to Eye – Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel" which charts the uncanny connection between USA attempts to pressure Israel into shrinking its borders, and nearly simultaneous natural disasters in America.

We ask you to consider God's hand in present events. Genesis 12:3 is a prophetic promise that says that God will curse the one who speaks curses Israel.

What happens in Israel affects the rest of the world, and how any country treats Israel has a lot to do with how God treats that country. We are praying, deeply concerned and grieved about the onset of Katrina.

Here are some appalling parallels that need to be considered as we all pray into this situation.

* Recent comments over the past hours on the FOX NEWS Channel eerily parallel what has just happened in Gaza. One commentator referred to the inhabitants of New Orleans and said, "It must be an emotional experience to walk away from their houses and not know if they will be able to live in them again." That is exactly what has transpired here this past week for Gaza's Jewish population.

* Another commentator said that most of all the wooden structures in New Orleans will be destroyed. Nearly all of the structures in Gaza's Jewish communities and farms have been destroyed.

* Ivor Van Heeden, deputy director of Louisiana State University's Hurricane Center, recently said on FOX that there is a high probability that the hurricane will loosen many of the coffins in New Orleans and that corpses will be loosened and moved from their resting places. One of the three top items on Israel's news tonight was the forced removal of Jewish graves from the Gaza Strip and the transportation of the corpses for reburial in other parts of Israel.

* Whereas Gaza was placed under a state of emergency as its 8,000 residents were evacuated, now New Orleans has been given orders for a mandatory evacuation of nearly 500,000 people.

* Whereas many Israeli Jews from Gaza are in temporary refugee camps and tent cities, there is talk of up to one million refugees needing to be settled in temporary camps in the Louisiana and Mississippi area.

It seems that the US and Israel are joined together this week by some measure of tragedy. We grieve for this, and especially for the apparent links between these two events.

Pray for America's leadership, that their spiritual eyes and ears may be attentive to the God of Israel who stirs up the waves so that they roar. Let us not shut our ears if He is speaking. And let us handle with respect the people whom He has chosen as the apple of His eye.

#114--sorry was afk for awhile--im referring to post #267 of yesterdays open thread--sorry- dont know how how to cut and paste-am a puter illiterate--

Sorry. I thought I posted in the Katrina thread and it went to the Fatwa thread on soccer ! Oh well !

Sorry again.

football wastes a lot of time

Yes, time that can be used to blow civilized people up.

Is fantasy football allowed?

No It is a major sin says the Imam.

#143 psaturn

My wife and I were shopping for a house in Sarasota, Florida around 1999-2000. This was the famous Florida drought. Flagler County was evacuated when three fires converged into a firestorm. I'd never seen a countywide evacuation which wasn't hurricane related. One night the flames were so high the horizon was orange and there was low-lying smoke everywhere, miles from the fires.

At that time, hurricanes simply didn't generate in the Gulf of Mexico, and hadn't for years. But if you look at the historical charts, they always have at various times.

I kept asking about the drainage of the various houses we were looking at (during a drought, when there hadn't been any Gulf hurricanes in years). I told our agent "the Gulf of Mexico is bound to act up soon and will probably start slamming the West Coast again."

Does that make me a biblical prophet?

I think it makes me a historical meterologist. I've studied enough Spanish shipwrecks to know the GOMEX acts up when it feels like it, always has, always will.

Honestly, that e-mail is the Jewish equivalent of one of Pat Robertson's mad ravings about Gay Days causing God to lash out at Disney World. Well, ten years later a Cat I did hit Orlando. Cripes, everywhere from Honduras to New York is drilled occasionally.

*holding fingers to temples*

I predict a large earthquake in California in the not-too-distant future.

And a few more things.

If G_d really punished the enemies of Israel, and wanted to impress me, there would be giant earthquakes in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Jordan, Egypt, and Syria simultaneously. Or there could be a large hurricane which doesn't happen between June and December.

I hate it when people claim their G_d is killing their enemies, much less their friends. It's like two football teams praying for victory in opposite endzones. Those prayers must be contracted out to an answering service.

What about free will and the rules of nature God created? Is it really necessary for a tinkering God to come back and 'fix' things all the time? If so, what does that say about creation?

Did Israel win the Six Day War because G_d decided to kill the Egyptian SAM's or was the plan to get them all to light up and nail them with HARM missiles effective? I choose the latter.

IMO, prayer (God) works through individuals in the ordinary course of events. Malicious gods interfering in human events magically, slaughtering innocents to make a point, drowning children as a rhetorical device, is so 3,000 years ago.

Re: #99 Banagor

"Christopher Walken for President 2008"

A kinder, gentler, "deer hunter" for president.

But is he "walken" or "runnin" or for the presidency, inquiring minds want know.

psaturn:

As I told you on the Katrina thread, kindly stop being a God damned idiot.

Thank you.

Since jihad is a peaceful internal struggle, I guess the imams want their youth to more emulate Catholic monks, rather than Scottish soccor hooligans.

Yah yah - isn't everything from other cultures un-islamic?

j

#149 Beagle

If G_d really punished the enemies of Israel, and wanted to impress me, there would be giant earthquakes in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Jordan, Egypt, and Syria simultaneously.

Nah, he just gave them Islam.

or, rather, he permitted it to fester.

I went to college with a iranian, he said that there were major riots after almost every big football match in Iran, and this was in 2000. Hooliganism for liberty as it would seem.. This report may be a good indication of an increase in riots and the mullahs loosing more and more control... Banning sports is a desperate act, will the iranian dictatorship last on bread alone?

Anybody got a decent Katrina track-landfall location update ? All I can find is fairly out of date.

Very quiet in here this AM. Is everybody watching the weather channel or something ?

WHEN will the ordinary people of the ME grow some balls bigger than those of the Wahhabists and Islamists, and tell their religious fanatics to stuff it?

Could be a long time, I'm afraid.

Meanwhile, here in Missouri, lap dancing will soon be verboten ... :-(

Fox is reporting that Katrina has made landfall just east of Grand Isle, LA.

#151 Jheka

Concur and second that motion.

# 159 Powderfinger

Ed is awake and posting on the last Katrina thread.

The more you learn about Islam the more it resembles the world-view of George Orwell's totalitarian dystopia, Oceania, in 1984.

Boy, was I ever embarrassingly wrong in my oil price prediction for today !

[Link: wire.chron.com...]

The should play soccer naked,

they should have wet burka contests,

and hell, they should go fly a kite.

I had a Saudi Teamate when I played 2A college soccer. This was circa 79-80, during the Iranian hostage crisis. He used to rail on about the Shittes while tipping back a few Hein#kens. I wonder what his concerns are today: does he worry about the quality of his beer and it's availability wherever he resides or the length of men's shorts and the efforts of moslems exerted the advancement of the ummah. A lot of these Saudis who partied hearty in the west as students are now reforming, and not unlike reformed smokers, are the most fanatical in theri insistance of others following their new found religion. I wonder.

So if its round, they don't like seeing it get kicked.

Does that include chopped-off heads?

Tell the clerics to issue a fartwa decreeing that even drinking water is un-islamic.

#167 SevoGuy

Yep. Tell 'em to drink camel piss instead.

Well, Man Utd just beat Newcastle 2-0. The relevance is Man Utd, Man Utd. Jealous Saudi imams should mind their own business and keep working on freedom and joy.

I saw many Arab kids play football in Saudi Arabia. They often used to start at around 4 p.m. in temperatures above 40 degrees Celsius. Most would play barefoot in the sand or on the scorching roads.

I remember the increased interest in football during the 90s when Saudi Arabia won the Asian Cup.

A little history of Saudi Arabian football

Football seemed to be the ONLY outdoor sport for Arab boys. Now the vile clerics have snuffed out the last vestige of fun for those kids.

#170--Isaac the cat guy,
I agree about the "last vestige of fun" bit, and think that this is going to be more problematic than the mullahs believe. At least when the Pope or another western moral authority figure tells his young audience about the sinfulness of a particular, uh, sin, then it is couched within a culture of tough love and welcoming forgiveness. Western Culture played with humorless unforgiveness, burning people & such for a while, and got over it. These days of rapid & mass communications (this blog as an excellent example) are less tolerant of such extremes.

#170 Isaac Schrodinger

We'll certainly know whats happening when Saudi kids without feet start cropping up.

OT/

Hope plenty of people read this and that more express the same view:

'Palestinians have the chance to improve their lives if they stop feeling sorry for themselves. Possibly 600,000 of them fled the 1947-48 war that Arab states launched against newly born Israel, and 60 years later they still consider themselves "refugees." Now the Palestinians claim they number more than 5 million - and that the world still owes them a living.

Here's my advice to the Palestinians. Get your act together, work with what you have and build up global trust. Most importantly, convince the Israelis you want peace - not to destroy Israel. Until you do, you won't get anything more - and maybe you'll get even less than you already have.'

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

Marbles make a fun game for the islamnazi youth...too bad they 'lost theirs' so long ago...anyway, I'm sure that's 'un-islamic' too.

#154--Deadman
Interesting point. I wonder if there's much hash to be made along the following lines:

G*D Curses the Enemies of Israel
Some get Painful Death
Some get Mohammedism

I'm not much one for biblical interpretation; I just want to poke Islam in the eye. Along those lines, I haven't seen much about the widespread Islamic c*cks*cking which is common among young men. Apparently, there is a notion that "men are for fun; women are for children", and that "after age thirty, a man should get serious about family and stay with women".
I was educated about these points during a training tour in Bahrain, when we were taught the reasons why not to get into the front seat of a cab (you are making yourself available for the cabbie's advances), and why not to get too offended if, while using a public urinal, the turbanned odor next to you feels it necessary to comment on the size or quality of your, um, stuff.

Islam: The Gay Inquisition

They should tell them to play American football. Then even if girls play their heads will be covered.

the more intolerant the islamonazifacists become, the fewer people will listen to them, the greater will be the "EXODUS" of believers OUT of fanatical Islam.

Go on, ya ultramaroons. Ban everything except mutilating women's sexual organs and stoning your wives. Soon you will have isolated facist selves-- you can RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE.

The hate-filled extremes of these idiots can't be cloaked and I think it's hilarious that they think that this is how you bring the concept of "church" out into the world.

Makes "blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see G-d" so much more APPEALING, and "blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth" MORE AND MORE TRUE!

# 167 SevoGuy

Perhaps the imams are right, as W C Fields said

"I don't drink water; fish fuck in it"

I live in the heart of Amish country and occasionally conduct business with them. There are some bishops (a minority) in the area who discourage baseball among the boys because it's too worldly an activity. They've come under some polite and respectful criticism from their peers.

Guess I could draw a parallel here but if there is one it's pretty tenuous. I feel safer among the Amish than anyone, and the worst they've done is the kids fling horse manure at my dog when they pass my house on the way to school. I don't think their backpacks contain anything more deadly than whoopie pies.

#173 Scooter

You could say the same about a lot of people. I read some study that said people who did not sue over medical grievances (or at least dropped their suits or settled for cost of care only) got better much faster than people who pursued their lawsuits in order to punish people for harming them. I guess it's the mental mindset you put yourself in that affects not only happiness but wealth and health as well.

Soccer isn't constructive. You get exercise, spend harmless activity in the community, learn the lessons of competition and perserverance, travel. Blowing yourself up, that's where the streets are paved in gold.

#170 Isaac Schrödinger , yes it looks like they want the youth to be left with only jihad as the focus. Keep them unemployed and with nothing to do but jihad.

Beagle- Bro, Israel in 1967 did not have HARM missiles and did not face SAMs.

Her first strike was done by nap of the earth flying and delivering a knockout punch to the airforces on the ground. It is my understanding they briefly popped up into the radar to get the Arabs to scramble their planes and thus have them sitting like ducks on the tarmac when the fighter bombers hit.

I always celebrate June 5th as one of the greatest Jewish victories in history- only David v Goliath, Abrahams war against the five kings, the battle when the sun stood still Gideon and the destruction of Senecherub at the gates of Jerusalem compare and all of those had direct involvement from on high. In 1967 the Creator did not speak to us directly, but His blessing was truly there.

One of the most treasured book in my library is an IDF published story of the 1967 war. The enormity of the victory was astounding. The faces of Rabin, Sharon, Dayan, Tal and Motta Gur pop off the page. The Jewish people never fielded a more forocious team of generals in our history. The photos and maps of a young Sharon ripping across the Sinai and smashing Egyptian armor divisions are a contrast to the old whale he has become. Lions get old too.

Saudi Clerics Declare Football Un-Islamic

Shit are the NFL owners going to be pissed or what...huh?, huh?

Yeah, yeah I know they mean soccer.

They'd rather play the Islamic sport of Buzkashi, a sport where they try to carry a headless goat on horseback across a goal line.

[Link: www.afghan-network.net...]

in the meantime, in another part of the world...

Or Golob is in the 12th grade but in October he will also be a junior in computer studies at the College of Management in Rishon Letzion. He does not complain about his heavy course load, although he is completing his high school studies as well; he does note, however, that only 30 of the 45 classmates who began the program with him have remained.

Golob is part of what the Rishon Letzion municipality calls the "academization of the city's educational system."

The pilot program, now in its fourth year, enables highly motivated high school students to earn a bachelor's degree in computer studies at the College of Management in parallel with their regular high school studies and matriculation examinations.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

so, while our cousins are busy educating each other to hate and destroy, young israelis are strieving for exellence.

thumbs up to rishon le zion (can you see the simbolism?) municipality.

#180 plutosdad

Yes, I would agree with you. We all know people who refuse to accept responsibility, who avoid taking a hard look at themselves.

The Palestinians will find that unless they begin to change people will ignore them. Some will remain sympathetic, however many will simply relegate them to the dust bin of history. We have other things to do. Other people need help and attention and are far more deserving.

Suicide bombings are what we expect of them. It's the norm. Whining is what we expect. That's all we hear...along with more and more demands.

At some point one turns a deaf ear because one no longer cares.

#183 AG

Right. I got the wars confused.

In 1967 a preemptive strike caught the Egyptian airforce on the ground. SAM missiles didn't really factor in.

In the 1973 War the Israelis had some U.S. SAM sensing technology, effective against the SA-2. Israel lost many planes going up against the SAM's.

It wasn't until Lebanaon that the Israelis used the U.S. Shrike (not the HARM) to knock out the SAMs in Lebanon, after the drones spoofed the radar into turning on.

Too many wars to keep them straight.

#183 AG

just in case you missed it, this is the link to 11 minutes original recording of israeli radio during the liberation of the old city in jerusalem and the kotel.
very emotional.
[Link: www.isracast.com...]

and here's the transcript of the broadcast:
[Link: www.isracast.com...]

[Link: patriotfilesannex.org...]

O/T a moonbat best- must see.

I waiting for the Islamists to declare that Wal-Mart is un-Islamic. That way the leftists can be in good company.

Hey! What happened to the Stormfront? We were promised nazis at Cindyville and we got Al Sharpton instead -- and more propaganda. I think Howard Dean spun his rolodex to 'N' and found someone who could leverage the Stormfront. After all, they're all Democrats. I think the fix is in.

At first they came for soccer and I said nothing.
Then they came for American football and I still said nothing.
...
But then they came for hockey and there was no one left to help me.

They should tell them to play American football. Then even if girls play their heads will be covered.

But they'll still have to wear some form of covering to hide the female sex ray emitter, and that exposed neck. Very dangerous, that. If there were ever such as a thing as islamic American football, it would be a game akin to the old electric football games, like bumper cars, but where the bumper cars tumble and roll over.

This is what the liberals want to negotiate with... Fing morons. Where is the mass media outrage at this?

Some have already gone to join Zarqawi in Iraq.

Link.

#179 0x0BADF1D0
I was driving around Amish country up in Montgomery County, NY once during fall turkey season. I passed some small Amish school that lookd like it was a set for some settlers on the prairie movie. The kids, boys and girls, were playing baseball on a diamond about 15' on a side, wearing their traditional clothes and using homemade bats/balls and gloves. I almost died laughing. Too bad I didn't have my digital camera with me.

OT: have a look at RoPMA. I especially liked the full accounting of the crimes of the adherents to the RoPMA against civil society.

Maybe they just want to grab all the soccer fields for Talibanesque executions.

heh. soccer.

Morning all.

Jihad has more than one meaning.

The lesser-known variant may have been referred to above.

What about women's socce...er... football? Are we in any danger of seeing Mia Hamm convert?

Its official: muslim sports is an oxymoron.

Its official: muslim human rights is an oxymoron.

62 Beagle---I hope that is "still have" as in, going to use it when we've recovered...you will, as impossible as it seems

well, on the good news front... hurricane veered a touch east, thanks (I think) to a front blowing to the east from Texas.

Let's be preemptive... instead of letting the Left blame the hurricane on President Bush, let's credit President Bush with Saving New Orleans... its no coincidence that the front came from Texas...

*grin*

#198 kafir

OT: have a look at RoPMA. I especially liked the full accounting of the crimes of the adherents to the RoPMA against civil society.

Thanks. This is excellent stuff. Make sure to scroll down to "The List" of Islamic Terror Attacks Since September 11th, 2001. Excellent.

It's more official: Muslim dentist is an oxymoron

oh, and for all who asked, I'd put money out there that there aren't any women footballers in SA to worry about this fatwa

On days like this I wish Charles would be so kind and turn off his perjorative filter;-)

#87 Beagle

I was going to say something, but your post made me laugh and I didn't want to provoke Charles into saying "Oh, bother" by shooting my mouth off too soon.

#199 Roger
No, no no... The reason the soccer fields were being used was because the Taliban were unable to build an appropriate area. The Saudis can afford the "proper" venue.

I wonder if they'll let American Football be played instead? It's MUCH more warlike than soccer.

(though American Football fans don't erupt into mass riots)

The ulema argued that football wastes a lot of time and the participants wear shorts, which they said was an un-Islamic dress

maybe they should wear burkas?

OT - More from Cindy Sheehan - the whole world's mad, save me and thee...and I'm not so sure about thee

#213 happy

sure... then the Magic Kingdon could stack their team, having men under the burkas play against the lesser women from other teams.

*grin*

then kill them.

Pele, David Beckham, et al. are un-Islamic.

I can visualize tomorrow's Op-Ed page in the NY (New Duranty) Times: "Once again the international community (football-- soccer-- is the international sport) is being Islamophobic and thumbing its nose at good, pious Muslims worldwide. Such insensitivity breeds greater hostility and could be used by a tiny minority of Islamic activists to justify more acts of civil disobedience worldwide..."

#216 firebreather

"Once again the international community (football-- soccer-- is the international sport) is being Islamophobic and thumbing its nose at good, pious Muslims worldwide. Such insensitivity breeds greater hostility and could be used by a tiny minority of Islamic activists to justify more acts of civil disobedience worldwide...

... which is President Bush's fault."

#211 wanumba, remember, weren't the Afghan soccer fields put in by international funding? Sort of a mid-night basketball program to distract gangbangers?

# 210 roger:

On days like this I wish Charles would be so kind and turn off his perjorative filter;-)

How in the name of all that is holy (another Rangers Stanley Cup) is quoting what these psychotic imams issue 'perjorative'? It's called a fact. You should become acquainted with them.

#219 Rick

I think he was referring to calling the Muslims names...

Taif Football Club

Oh, I thought he meant TRAIF Football club, and they were using pigskin footballs. Never mind.

#205 amyc

62 Beagle---I hope that is "still have" as in, going to use it when we've recovered...you will, as impossible as it seems

His room is basically untouched, except everything of his is in it now. We'll keep beating our heads against the wall until it gives or we lose our minds. There's actually more tragedy than losing Alexander, but I'm not big on woe-are-we stories.

#217 LanceKates--

Remember, Bush "created" Al Qaida and all Muslim extremism, apparently having entered a time machine and journeyed many centuries backward, to the advent of Islam itself.

His nefarious & implacable refusal to sign the Kyoto accords was the final straw that contributed to the events of 9/11 (not joking, the NY Times actually said that).

# 220 LanceKates:

I think he was referring to calling the Muslims names...

If that is true, then where is the name calling in Charles' post:

It’s official: football is un-Islamic.

And don’t you forget it.

So I guess the Saudis are going to stop tossing the ol' pigskin around, eh?

GOOOAL! GOOOAL!

#224 Rick

no...you misunderstand. there is a filter at LGF that keeps people from using certain muslim slurs. it replaces the word. if I am corrent in guessing what Roger was referring to, then that was it.

#223 Firebreather

CNN was referring to some site in the path of the hurricane, and had to stop to mention some connection the site had to President Bush, with a tone that made me think they were suggesting that God was against President Bush, and was wiping the area clean out of hatred of Bush.

I might have been reading something into it... but it IS CNN afterall.

#225 Titus

in the new Islamic Football, the ball is made from Infidel, not pig.

# 227 Lancekates:

Gotcha. No inappropriate islamic head-covering name calling.

Sorry, 'Roger'.

I can't see why they're not allowed to participate in a fantasy football league.

After all, their entire existence is based on delusional fantasies.

Someone has finally hit on a strategy to get Americans to like soccer!

no shorts or football,

720 virgins could never compensate for the lack of football or shorts.
no wonder these people are willing to blow themselves up.
we need to send in the red cross and help these poor people,
my allah the horror of it all.

Is anybody else's major public library refusing to stock Spencer's "PIG to Islam (and The Crusades)?" It's a top-20 bestseller, but they won't stock it.

But they are prominently featuring important International "Literature" Prize Winners like Eric-Emmanuel Schmitt's "Monsieur Ibrahim and the Flowers of the Koran," about a lovely Muslim shopkeeper who inspires and reforms a dastardly, criminal Jewish boy (among other pro-Muslim offerings).

If this were WWII, we'd get major authors winning prizes for writing stories about kindly Nazis reaching out to help wayward capitalists and acerbic, recalcitrant Jews.

Morning all -

Regarding Saudi players leaving football to engage in more "constructive" activities - it isn't like they are good at football, nor are they good at jihad. We kill scores of these bastards daily as they stream into Iraq.

#228 LanceKates---

Going from the Clinton Network News to the Crescent News Network was a seamless transition for CNN.

#230 RickZ, yep, that is what I was referring to:-) This topic begs for some colorful combinations.

A propos this thread, just google:

"Arab cousin marriage".

Methinks that a great deal of the absolute lunacy that emanates from the ME generally, and from islamist "scholars" specifically, can be blamed on this widespread-but-little-discussed ME convention.

Including banning football, mutilating womens' genitals, killing apostates of the belief system, engaging in endless, futile jihad, etc., etc...

Hey, #23, I feel your pain. The Pack playing like crap and now this fatwa. These are dark days for football, indeed.

I'm replying every fatwa with a wat-a-f***

simply to wat a F**K !

#236 Firebreather

Makes me nostaligic for the days that it was just the Communist News Network.

Its funny, I've recently bought the game Freedom Fighters (in which Communism grows, not shrinks, and the USSR takes over the US, and you're fighting against it.)

they have propaganda TV broadcasts by the USSR's 'news' department as little videos between missions, and you'd swear you were watchin the old CNN, but all computer generated.

#238 Earl

"Arab cousin marriage"

So, are you suggesting that the violent and insular aspects of most Muslim cultures comes about from genetic degeneracy, or from clannishness that typical comes from excessive endogamous marriage?

#242 Titus

not to overstep my bounds, but I think those aspects come from Muslims being dumb.

I'm upset that this week, barring action by the courts, religious fanatics in Missouri will succeed in making lap dancing verboten.

What is more wholesome and all-American (an un-Islamic) than lap-dancing? :-(

Saudi Clerics Declare Football Un-Islamic

Well, I guess this plan won't work: Thais try soccer to 'tame' Muslim youths...

#244 Tigger

here in OK, they can't be fully topless. they have to wear some sort of underwear, and they have to have body paint covering the boobage.

however, since I don't requent Strip Clubs, it is not a concern to me.

PIMF frequent, not requent

"How can these moms who still support George Bush and his insane war in Iraq want more innocent blood shed just because their sons or daughters have been killed? I don't understand it," Sheehan stated. "I am starting to lose a little compassion for them. I know they have been as brainwashed as the rest of America, but they know the pain and heartache and they should not wish it on another. However, I still feel their pain so acutely and pray for these 'continue the murder and mayhem' moms to see the light."

if her son had been killed in vietnam she probably would have set herself on fire.

Great idea Mrs Sheehan,
why dont you wrap up in a protest Buraka, and pour 5 gallons of gas, at 3 dollars a gal. set yourself on fire.
i would at least remember your flame.

I guess i'm crazy, but I've always viewed strip clubs, lap dances, and prostitution as rather Amsterdamish.

Though I think my history books said something about the First Thanksgiving being full of strippers and lap dances... none of that prayer crap.

*smirk*

#248 ibm

I like the line "I'm starting to lose a little compassion for them."

1.) like she ever had any compassion for them. a father of a fallen soldier called her and asked her to take down the cross with his son's name on it, and she hung up on him.

2.) The root of compassion is passion, or to feel. I'm not convinced that she feels anything besides the need to be infront of the cameras like a has been actress. I thought she had come to her senses when she left to go take care of her mother, who had a stroke... but apparently she left her mother to go back in front of the cameras, like some publicity whore. (since Moveon.org and others are financing her, perhaps that is publicity prostitute?). No, I don't think compassion is one of her traits.

# 246 LanceKates

I don't really "frequent" them either ... might go maybe once or twice a year for kicks. But hey, being divorced and not having much luck at getting a new lady, it's nice to know they're there ...

#251 tigger

but they're like going to a BOSE shop... sure, they're nice to look at and such... but you won't get one.

Besides... I'd rather find a nice lady, then a Stripper lady... both will start to droop, but a nice lady can still hold a good conversation.

*grin*

OT, in earthshaking news, George Mason University's College of Arts and Sciences in jihadi Northern Virginia is offering a minor in Judaic Studies. Enroll now.

(Professor Tariq Ramadan couldn't teach jihad this semester as he was detained by the INS) Bwahaha, you disappointed faculty members who also invited Michael Moore to speak last year.

#245 Ringo

Hmm... doesn't say anything about them playing sports:

'Under the plan, Thailand's Interior Ministry will bear the cost of installing 500 television sets at community tea and coffee shops, where cable operators will televise every English Premier League match. The commentary and narration will be in Yawi, the dialect of Muslims living in the restive area.

The ministry "will tame these young people, getting them to think of sports and watch the league on television rather than going out and killing people", Interior Minister Kongsak Wanthana told reporters.'

Yep! That'll keep them busy. heh

What's wrong with making them work?

Maybe they'll all turn into fatties watching TV, fat little killers.

/astonished

#242 TQC

Neither, per se. Or both?

So, are you suggesting that the violent and insular aspects of most Muslim cultures comes about from genetic degeneracy,

No, not all Muslim cultures. The seemingly-lunatic proclamations from the mullahs appear largely in the Arab ME (although the Deobandists in Pak generate their fair share of jaw-droppers). If the Wahhabists are sufficiently successful in proseltyzing outside KSA, and one accepts the Qur'anic recitation/meme argument, then, yes, perhaps we'll see a degree of anti-modern fatwahs issue from other Muslim regions. I dunno, I'm no anthropologist or sociologist. But the Israelis are studying this trend:

Inbreeding and the Arab World's Pathologies

or from clannishness that typical comes from excessive endogamous marriage?

A definite occurrence. Perhaps itself a manifestation of inbreeding?

2.) The root of compassion is passion, or to feel. I'm not convinced that she feels anything besides the need to be infront of the cameras like a has been actress. I thought she had come to her senses when she left to go take care of her mother, who had a stroke... but apparently she left her mother to go back in front of the cameras, like some publicity whore. (since Moveon.org and others are financing her, perhaps that is publicity prostitute?). No, I don't think compassion is one of her traits.

good thing she is a publicity whore,
wouldnt want her lap dancing around me.
What is a lap dance anyway?
is that the Russian leg kicker.
hold your hands on your lap.
lol

we live in the deep deep south of the bible belt.
woman next door tried to dance in her thong,
havent seen her since,
i think the baptist church had her stoned.

Don't know if anyone has said this already:- at least they won't have to face Israeli teams in competition. Forfeits don't look good on one's record.

#218 Roger

I agree with the point you were making (in your first post), just wanted to expand on the comment.

Yes, you're right, wasn't it the European Union or some other Euro donor that constructed the futbol/soccer field in the first place?
Wasn't it that documentary "Behind the Veil." (CNN ? incredibly)
The very brave woman who filmed that report showed a Taliban upper mucky-muck commenting in chilling seriousness that foreign donors should help the Taliban build a proper execution stadium so they wouldn't have to use the futbol field.

In regards to the various posters about the apparent ostreperousness among certain Muslims, Genesis (chapter) 25: (verses) 12-18 written over 1,500 years ago makes an interesting observation:

Ismael's sons...(Genesis 25: 17 & 18) "These were the sons of Ismael, and these are the names of the twelve tribal rulers according to their settlements and camps. Altogether, Ismael lived a hundred and thirty-seven years. He breathed his last and died and he was gathered to his people. His decendents settled in the area from Havilah to Shur near the border of Egypt, as you go to Assur. And they lived in hostility towards all their brothers."

#238 Earl

Re: Arab consanguinous marriages. I'm on to something. It's been studied scientifically (by the Israelis, natch, who have the most day-to-day contact with the psychopathies that inbreeding causes):

Jaber, L., O. Romano and M. Shohat. "Consanguinity among Arabs in Israel." Harefuah 1997; 133:345-48. (Hebrew)

Pity it hasn't been translated. Say, into English and...Arabic

#258 wanumba, in agreement and just continuing the expansion:-)

Those whacky Saudis!

Re: 260 ... expansion too:-)

The late Iranian dictator, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini said:

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."

Carry on, Mo.

/muckin' fuzzies

An excellent essay from the Heritage Foundation about Terrorism and the English Language.

Link

Michael Graham on Rightalk now!

Listen!

Topic: Islam, Terror and CAIR (spit)

And here in the OC, we have trouble with the Muslim Football League, which has team names like "Fedayeen".

The ol' Mufti comes to the rescue. . . .

According to the Hanafi Madhab, the Satar for males (those parts of the body which must be covered) is from the navel uptil the knees, excluding the navel itself and including the knees. (Bahrur raaiq vol.8 pg.192)

This means that it is not permissible for a man to expose his knees or thighs or to look at the knees or thighs or to look at the knees or thighs of another male. In such circumstances, it will be permissible to wear such shorts which hang below and comfortably cover the knees.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

[Link: www.islam.tc...]

The President should show them how he can use his "football!"

#244 tigger

I'm upset that this week, barring action by the courts, religious fanatics in Missouri will succeed in making lap dancing verboten

Are you my brother returned from Fla. without telling us? Dude, there are other things in life to get upset over. Rent a movie.
From my understanding, getting lap dances over on the east side, one has to wash his face afterwards. Nasty. And from the mouth of one of these skank dancers (coke afficianado, trailor trash extraordinaire who my brother dated and is now facing daily court battles with), most of the 'girls' dislike the customers and take them for whatever they can - as they are soo predictable and piggish. To get over the mental part of it, they snort to make it tolerable.

No fun sports, just kill everyone whi dosne;t like Allah. When will we wake up?

Ok

a stupid question then...

What do muslim men wear in bed?
Answer: Panties...

Shorts are unislamic...
This means
mens underwear.
swimming shorts
Speedos (i dont ever want to see mohammed wearing spedos)... Gag...

Short pants..
Shorts of any kind..

So all muslim men need to wear a dress..
in the desert sounds fine with me...

Idiots..

The clerics urged youth to forget about sports and engage in "jihad and other constructive activities".
But what about jihad against the regime of Saudi Arabia? Isn't this also promoting such jihad, since it doesn't specifically exclude it?
The regime of Saudi Arabia lends itself especially to change by jihad because:

* the royal family includes many that engage in extremely decadent behavior, compared to the strict Wahhabi norms of the country, and as such can be considered apostates
* the vast wealth of the royal family contrasts sharply with the very modest incomes of many of the people of the country, and the royals who personally claim ownership of the oil riches can be considered robbers
* taking over the oil reserves of the kingdom would give the jihadists vast wealth to spend on global jihad, as well as the ability to blackmail the oil-consuming West with demands appropriate to the global jihad and the khilafa movement
* taking over the two holy mosques, at Mecca and Medina, and the hajj pilgrimage, would give the jihadists control over much of the ummah, to provide indoctrination and education appropriate to the global jihad and the khilava movement, and also afford new opportunities to stimulate the Islamic Awakening
* jihad will be supported by the kingdom's ulema, who will be happy at the prospect of gaining new power
* the royals are generally despised, so the jihad will be popular amongst the people of the kingdom.

#57 Rayra

'Iraq is another Vietnam' - passe. Reuters trumps all their fellow Ideologues with a New & Improved meme - Iraq is Worse than Vietnam
Report: More journalists killed in Iraq than Vietnam

Excuse me if I don't get all choked up about a bunch of Fourth EstatersFifth Columnists getting what's coming to them. :-P

While viewing the article, I happened to notice this item buried on the right side of the page.

Just a tiny blurb about an electic tower being blown up, as if it were an article in your local paper about kids vandalizing mailboxes.

I guess things are a bit different in Pakistan, no?

Actually if other clerics follow up and try to ban soccer, I think it will backfire and cause the Moslem male youth to be less radical

OR, it might backfire and cause the Saudi youth to say "Hey, SIT ON IT, FONZIE."
Ok, well, that's how I dreamed it. :)

I would hope that this might be something that might change the minds of the muslim youth, maybe the thing that islam needs to snap itself out of it's killing and murdering ways. But,...nevermind. If the love of soccer( why kick it when you can throw it? and for the love of Pete, why don't you let them BLoCK? ;) ) saves the world from the evils of islam, i'll eat goat cheese pizza.

I don't think even football could save them. Not even college football. . . not even a bowl game.

But I thought Bin Laden was an Arsenal fan...

Probably the most succinct condemnation of islam I've read. Quit playing football and get out there and blow yourselves up.

I bet allah is thinking 'what a bunch of f***g idiots this lot are!'

If Football is Un-Islamic, then what the hell is suicide bombings? Oh, that's right. It is Islamic. Duh.

The real reason why they want to discourage football is that it is the one window on the world that is available to Muslims that is not controlled by the dictatorships they live under.

The MSM won't tell you because the American MSM hates soccer only slightly less than it hates anything America, but in Iran, football is the only vehicle that the Iranian people have to come together to dissent in numbers. And they do. The Mullahs hate it because they cannot control it. The mullahs tried to stop women from attending soccer matches on more than one occasion. The Iranian women rioted until they were allowed access. Some of my Team USA soccer gear is in Iran now, worn by at least one young Iranian precisely because it's a quiet way to disrespect the Mullahs.

This stuff has been reported for years now in sports articles, but the MSM won't touch it because it would cut into their agenda which involves sustaining and supporting the Anti-American Islamic regime there.

Team USA has made great strides in a game that is recognized as the world's game just about everywhere but the USA. We have appeared in the World Cup, every time from and including 1990 (ending a 40 year hiatus). In 1994 we qualified automatically as host. In every other case we qualified on merit and should qualify again for Germany 2006. We are doing it now with players born and bred in the USA.

We qualify by playing in places and under conditions and cirmcumstances that the pampered pansies of our other professional would NEVER consent to compete under for even a minute.

So, for some of my fellow Lizards, instead of bashing the game and America's place in it, at least have the decency to recognize the courage, determination and skill of our athletes that represent us in it. They have hurdles that no NBA Olympic dream team could even contemplate.

Quran allows one exception

Its ok to play football with the decapitated head of an infidel captain

[Link: satire...] - DOT - myblogsite.com/blog/_archives/2005/8/29/1178544.ht ml

Perhaps the Imam meant LITTLE GREEN footballs were un-Islamic.

RightWingJew,

Maybe but I think he meant soccer football, the sport. There's a bit where they say you have to wear shorts. You can wear shorts on LGF but it isn't mandatory. Also the article says some football players quit. Unless the writer is witholding information it's probably because they sensed the imams meant football, the sport. Also the article begins, "Ulema in Saudia Arabia have issued a fatwa (religious decree) declaring football an un-Islamic sport". It is very unlikely this means LGF. Maybe you were thinking that because it is a BBC piece and it is in the BBC's interest to report such a fatwa, to attract LGF's large Muslim audience to the BBC. Probably they will try that one day.