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AP Stands Behind Green Helmet Guy

Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 5:48:45 pm PDT

The Associated Press identifies “Green Helmet Guy:” ‘Green Helmet’ helps rescue the wounded. (Hat tip: Bubbaman.)

They want us to know that Salam Daher would never be involved in such a thing as propaganda for Hizballah.

TYRE, Lebanon - After hours of digging in the blistering heat, Salam Daher emerged from the wreckage with the body of a 9-month-old baby, a blue pacifier still pinned to its nightshirt.

He held the infant up and, click, an Associated Press photographer snapped another picture of Daher, in his trademark green helmet, displaying a civilian victim of Israeli bombs for the world to see.

Daher, a member of the civil defense for 20 years, has been photographed with bodies of the dead in two wars now — first in 1996 and most recently with the baby on July 30 __ both times after Israeli attacks in the village of Qana six miles southeast of the city.

For that reason, some Web sites have labeled him the “Green Helmet,” and accused him of being a member of the Hezbollah guerrilla group, and of showing off bodies as propaganda.

“But that isn’t true,” he told The Associated Press. He is not affiliated with any party, he said. “I am just a civil defense worker. I have done this job all my life.”

And an interesting admission here. The “Lebanese” want the world to see these grotesque displays, and make no apologies for parading around with children’s corpses.

To many in the West, such photographs are surprising; but they are not unusual in the Middle East, where grief and drama are often intertwined, and that can include displaying of bodies.

Bloggers have accused rescue workers and volunteers of showing off victims for the media. The Lebanese make no apologies for wanting the world to see the civilian suffering in the Israeli onslaught aimed at uprooting Hezbollah.

Just so we’re all clear about what’s being discussed and defended in this AP whitewash, here’s the video from German TV showing Salam Daher participating in the desecration of a child’s body, removing it from an ambulance and posing it for photographs like a side of beef:

UPDATE at 8/11/06 6:22:23 pm:

AP also provides a dashing close-up shot of Salam Daher, sans dead children, with a nice new blue helmet.

Head of Operations for the Lebanese Civil Defense in Tyre, Salam Daher, 39, looks out of the window of a Lebanese Civil Defense truck as he drives off in the town of Tyre in southern Lebanon Friday, Aug. 11, 2006. Salam Daher’s green-helmeted head digging beneath bombed out buildings to retrieve the dead has been seen in news photographs from two wars, in 1996 and again in 2006, both times after Israeli bombings in the village of Qana. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis)

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1 TotallySirius  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:50:51pm

Um uh Wha?

2 LSD  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:51:03pm

AP assholes just lie and lie ...

3 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:51:14pm

Hey AP -

At the MINIMUM - I call "Shenanigans!"

-S-

4 Liz Ard  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:51:22pm

Nah, the mainstream media would NEVER be involved in propaganda.

/never

5 salaami  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:52:35pm

If we just understood them better, we'd know this isn't a callous display, but an integral part of their grieving process.

/Barf.

6 steve  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:52:52pm

Green Helmet Guy: Hey, whats the problem. I am just trying to earn a little extra money for the holidays.
Nothing here, Oh wait, there is another dead body, let me go get it.

7 jrdroll  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:54:28pm

So the MSM is just a bunch of Islamic Imperialist Apologists?

8 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:57:04pm

what ever you need to do, AP.

9 Bob's Kid  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:57:39pm

Riiiiight...I'll buy that.

/sure I will

10 crazytraveler  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:57:49pm

I'm glad to see that the AP isn't willing to admit they've been had. I mean, that would mean that they'd accept some responsibility.

11 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:57:57pm

Green Helmet Guy -

The 21st Century Version of Monty Python's "BRING OUT YER DEAD"

-s-

12 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:58:11pm

I see they gave him a blue helmet to change his image!

Nice try Ben Curtis, AP TERRORAZZI!

13 Beagle  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 3:58:20pm

He is a civil defense worker, who happens to be an amateur film director of dead children. Like Zombie Captain Kangaroo. Could be in Peoria. I don't think this scam will work any more.

Most importantly, let's take the incentives out of dead children. Encourage evacuation and civilian shelters, not shelters for the rockets and jihadis with kids piled on top for international protection.

14 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:00:25pm

Excuse me while I vomit...I'm going to bed, I can't take much more of the news tonight.

Pray For Israel!

See you tomorrow LGFers.

15 Live4Truth  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:02:19pm

AP:

Daher, a member of the civil defense for 20 years, has been photographed with bodies of the dead in two wars now — first in 1996 and most recently with the baby on July 30 __ both times after Israeli attacks in the village of Qana six miles southeast of the city.

For that reason, some Web sites have labeled him the “Green Helmet,” and accused him of being a member of the Hezbollah guerrilla group, and of showing off bodies as propaganda.


How stupid (or lieing) is that? They state that he's accused of being a propagandist, just because he's been a rescue worker in two battles? Hello? Think again, you dumb, propaganda promoting bleeps. He's accused of that BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE SHOWS IT!

16 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:02:25pm
17 Zack  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:02:57pm

Green Helmet Guy & Co: a bunch of ghoulish creeps engaged in phase one of the eternal Islamic mission.

1. slander infidels

2. motivated by invented slander, mass murder infidels

3. forcibly convert the remainder

18 psaturn  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:03:09pm

So now we know his name !

19 sss111  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:03:59pm

See [Link: www.swiftvets.com...] for how the Jews handle their dead:


What did the State of Israel get in exchange for all of this? Did we win even one minute of quiet? Was our hand, outstretched in peace, met with a handshake of encouragement? Ehud Barak's peace initiative at Camp David let loose on us a wave of suicide bombers who smashed and blew to pieces over 1,000 citizens, men, women and children. I don't remember you being so enraged then. Maybe that happened because we did not allow TV close-ups of the dismembered body parts of the Israeli youngsters at the Dolphinarium? Or of the shattered lives of the people butchered while celebrating the Passover seder at the Park Hotel in Netanya? What can you do - that's the way we are. We don't wave body parts at the camera. We grieve quietly.

We do not dance on the roofs at the sight of the bodies of our enemy's children - we express genuine sorrow and regret. That is the monstrous behavior of our enemies.

Now they have risen up against us. Tomorrow they will rise up against you. You are already familiar with the murderous taste of this terror. And (In a loud and clear voice) you will taste more.
20 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:03:59pm

Daher was born in Marjayoun, the son of a construction engineer. He began hanging around with defense workers HIZBALLAH when he was just a boy, working as a volunteer CORPSE PARADER when he was 12. He began civil defense work STAGING PROPAGANDA as an apprentice in 1986 and worked his way up the ranks.

21 Evan from NZ  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:03:59pm

Filth from Norman Finkelstein's site:

HITLERJUGEND

I wonder what he thinks of Palestinian parents dressing their kids up as suicide bombers? Why are only Jewish kids "hitlerjugend"?

22 blue sky  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:04:43pm
To many in the West, such photographs are surprising; but they are not unusual in the Middle East, where grief and drama are often intertwined, and that can include displaying of bodies.

Oh. Now I understand, it's their culture. You know, the culture that encourages children to kill and become martyrs, the culture that permits honor killings, the culture that orders the killing of the infidel. The culture that wants to conquer the earth.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

23 Beagle  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:05:22pm

By the way, the displaying of bodies in the Middle East is a new thing for media purposes. It's absolutely not traditional. AP's busted and they know it. The piece(OS) is advocacy "journalism," Maureen Dowd on a bad but not angry day. They strawman and sandbag the criticism while making up helpful "facts" throughout. I'd fisk it but most of the Web just did that for a week.

24 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:05:50pm
25 rustinpuppets  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:06:25pm

Kathy Gannon has fallen hook, line and sinker for the terrorist propaganda, right from the start.


On Qana (printing inccorect casualty figures as fact):


JERUSALEM - Israel agreed Sunday to halt air attacks on south Lebanon for 48 hours in the face of widespread outrage over an airstrike that killed at least 56 Lebanese, mostly women and children, when it leveled a building where they had taken shelter.


on Nabatiyeh:


Lebanese civilians have born the brunt of the Israeli onslaught.
The woman and her children were crushed in their home by a strike outside the market town of Nabatiyeh, which also killed a man in a nearby house, Lebanese security officials said. In another southern town, six bodies were dug from the rubble of a house destroyed by a strike Friday, they said.
26 alcibiades  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:06:34pm
To many in the West, such photographs are surprising; but they are not unusual in the Middle East, where grief and drama are often intertwined, and that can include displaying of bodies.

Bloggers have accused rescue workers and volunteers of showing off victims for the media. The Lebanese make no apologies for wanting the world to see the civilian suffering in the Israeli onslaught aimed at uprooting Hezbollah.

That's a ridiculous contention by the AP that shows their unfamiliarity with Arab culture.

Here's Egyptian SandMonkey taking on this propaganda drivel and crushing it into smithereens.

His essential point is this is a very new attitude that was innovated to create victimhood propaganda.

27 code red 21  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:06:39pm

Now that his name is out there maybe the Kos Kids will start a fan club to show their support of the work he's doing.

28 dead sea squirrel  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:06:41pm

Not just evil, but STUPID. To their credit, at least Reuters was savvy enough to see that a CBS/Dan Rather-style stonewall doesn't cut it anymore.

29 blue sky  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:06:49pm

Sorry. It's hard not to be sarcastic.

30 6patrick6  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:06:59pm

GHG is just a pimp, and the press are his little whores to be trotted out when necessary to keep business going.

31 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:08:06pm
They want us to know that Salam Daher would never be involved in such a thing as propaganda for Hizballah.

"Ready...and...action!"

32 sailordude  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:08:29pm
Hezbollah guerrilla terror group

Fixed that for you AP.

33 logger phd  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:08:34pm

Who was it who first said, if you tell a lie often enough, people will start to believe it?

Lincoln was right: you can fool some of the poeple all of the time. . . .

34 baldylox  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:09:00pm

Yahood his name. Ask him yourself:

salamdaher@yahoo.com

I love the internet.

35 Sam Spade  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:10:18pm

Kathy Gannon, AP Writer, didn't ask the obvious of Salam Daher, "How do you explain the video?" The article is a non-propaganda propaganda.

36 logger phd  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:10:29pm

All right, I have had enough: must get food before I boil over.

37 Gagdad Bob  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:10:45pm

C'mon, people. What we are seeing is a classic case of Elizibeth Kubler Ross's six stages of grief:

Denial (this isn't happening to me!)

Anger (why is this happening to me?)

Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)

Depression (I don't care anymore)

Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)

Exploitation (parade the body around like a side of beef, hoping to manipulate the media)

38 Thanos  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:11:41pm
Most importantly, let's take the incentives out of dead children. Encourage evacuation and civilian shelters, not shelters for the rockets and jihadis with kids piled on top for international protection.

That's what ticks me off about the UN and red cross efforts to run food into a war zone. The civies leave if there are no provisions, so by feeding the civilians *and* the fighters south of the river, they were helping keep civilian's in harm's way.
Aid and food must be set up outside of the conflict zone, anything else is ludicrous. If you set up food water and aid stations in the zone you encourage the people to stay there. It's almost a war attrocity in itself.

39 sss111  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:12:06pm

Anyone have access to Lexis Nexis, Dialog etc. who can research Mr. Green Helmet's new name?

40 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:12:46pm

Hey AP - don't forget to purchase your very own Flat Fatima.

41 Beagle  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:12:51pm

For example, the first few words...

After hours of digging


The media just happened to come by for a parade of dead bodies? How many hours? Couldn't remove them one at a time. IIRC, this doesn't fit the story told before.

I'm only moved by pictures of dead journalists. Try harder Hizballah.

42 sunshine  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:13:52pm

Huh- I wonder why his name was given as Abdel Qader in the other video.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

43 Merovign  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:13:58pm

#21 Evan from NZ

I guess some people are already in Hell.

Some look at good and see evil, and at evil and see good.

Such people are annoying as crap.

44 tigger2005  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:14:44pm

Tah KEEE yahhhh!

I do not believe a word these f*ckers say anymore. If they tell me the Pope is Catholic I'll expect Benedict to knock at my door any minute wanting to give me a copy of The Watchtower.

45 Piltdown Man  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:14:52pm

Here's another heroic photo of Green Helmet (now Blue Helmet) from the AP.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

46 jester6  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:15:00pm

I am an old firefighter. On my shelf are several helmets I wore when I was on the job. I also have a Nazi firefighter helmet my grandfather (part of the 3rd ID in WWII) brought back from Germany. He probably did not even know it was a firefighter helmet when he brought it back. It sits next to mine.

I am sure on a tactical level firefighters in Nazi Germany or America or Israel or Lebanon are driven by a combination of adrenalin addiction and the desire to help others. I know because I have not completely recovered from my addiction. In that we are a semi-dysfunctional-altruistic-brotherhood. But we are also part of our community and nation.

Just as I am sure a Nazi firefighter would have shot my grandfather if given a chance, or many American firefighters would have killed a 9/11 terrorist if given a chance, this man is also a partisan.

Being a firefighter or civil defense worker does not remove our ability to act as partisans. This man can be a 20 year veteran civil defense worker and a partisan. They are not mutually exclusive options.

47 chazmo  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:15:07pm

AP
Active Propaganda

48 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:16:09pm

#36 Baldylox

I don't think its the same guy:

[Link: profiles.yahoo.com...]

49 baldylox  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:16:10pm

Actually I might have jumped the gun a bit. (#34)

My aplogies to the unfortunate soul who has the same name.

And also to anybody with the phone number 867-5309.

Sorry.

50 Piltdown Man  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:16:27pm

Koran Desecration! But no child's toy next to it.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

51 My 2 Cents  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:16:58pm

It makes sense that AP should find nothing wrong in what green helmut is doing. They support him and his cause 100%. They also support Hizb'Allah. They do not believe Israel has a right to exist. They believe Islam is not only just as good as any western religion, but actually better, because (just like themselves) Muslims tend to dislike Christians and Jews. AP is simply being consistent here. They don't think there is anything special or worth preserving about America or freedom, since all cultures are equivalent (except for Western civilization, which they believe is mostly evil).
So yes, the media are the enemy.

52 slotgun  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:18:09pm

Come on, Israel, before the U.N. steps in . . . just one more well-placed JDAM, please . . . just one more, right on the top of that slime-green hat . . .

53 baldylox  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:18:41pm

#48 NoSubmission ...

Interesting that it's a girl. Does Green Helmet Guy have a girl's name?

54 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:21:08pm

53 Baldylox

I suppose Salam could be a man or woman's name. Its funny that she says she likes creating and computer animations [sic] though.

55 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:21:32pm

The caption for his photo:

Head of Operations for the Lebanese Civil Defense in Tyre, Salam Daher, 39, sits to be photographed in the town of Tyre in southern Lebanon Friday, Aug. 11, 2006.

They want to be upfront about this one being staged. (They ought to come clean about photoshopping the color of his helmet though.)

56 Thanos  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:22:03pm

Found this text and link on the net for Salam Daher:

The bodies of 25 children were among those recovered from under the rubble of dozens of buildings which collapsed after the bombardment, said Salam Daher, the civil defence chief in the region.

note the inflated casualty figure.

57 dwainj  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:22:28pm

Why am I not surprised...
How can they keep a straight face.

In the last two weeks, i am finding myself looking at pixels of every image that has to do with the conflict...

Thanks LGF, I have a new hobby. Maybe AP and 'Rooters' will also join me?

58 Live4Truth  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:22:32pm

AP:

To many in the West, such photographs are surprising; but they are not unusual in the Middle East, where grief and drama are often intertwined, and that can include displaying of bodies.


That idea is easy to test: See what they do with a tragic death when they don't think the cameras are on them, especially when it has nothing to do with Israel or America.

Like to put some money on it?

59 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:26:55pm

Okay, so AP basically 'removed some dust' [sorry I couldn't resist!], gave him a new helmet and sent him out with one of their trained terrorazi, Ben Curtis for a little make over.

Not buying it, sorry. But SO GLAD Associated Propaganda is on the run.

60 The Green Hornet  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:27:24pm

Pretty soon Green Helmet Guy and Blue Helmet Guy will combine forces to become the ultimate Hezbo propoganda weapon: The dreaded SEAFOAM GREEN HELMET GUY!

/shivers going down spine

61 jrdroll  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:27:30pm

AP Nonsense of the day:

Homegrown terrorists puzzle Britain

By JILL LAWLESS(ed: Sharia), Associated Press Writers Fri Aug 11, 5:33 PM ET


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

62 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:28:38pm

Oh ya, and they ditched the funny glasses too!

This is reaching comic levels.

63 chazmo  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:29:02pm

To many in the West, such photographs are surprising; but they are not unusual in the Middle East, where grief and drama are often intertwined

Oh we dont have grief and drama ?

64 Cartman  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:29:03pm

I believe I can sense evil when I see it. Green Helmet Guy, if nothing else, seems to have an abnormal fascination with the dead. I would also bet the farm he's most certainly affiliated with the Hezbos. Bank on it.

65 jwbrown1969  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:30:25pm

Do y'all recall how PO's people were when the US showed Uday and Qusay's bodies, because it was un Islamic?

I guess those rules don't apply for fake rescue workers/movie directors in Lebenon!

66 Live4Truth  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:31:57pm
AP also provides a dashing close-up shot of Salam Daher, sans dead children, who will now be known as “Blue Helmet Guy.”


Looks like the blue outfit is his dressy formal rescue protective gear, special just for posed press photos. Not a scratch or a speck of dust on any of it.

Maybe AP bought it for him.

67 Walter Cronanty  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:32:20pm

46 Jester6
And exactly how many bodies of children have you dragged out of ambulances for propaganda purposes, posing them as bodies you just recovered? Sorry, I'm not buying it. He's a partisan alright, only his comrade is the AP.

68 Jape  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:33:13pm

Google Kathy Gannon.

Her latest book is entitled (eponymously?) "I is for infidel".

Hmm... what city does she currently reside in?
(Hint: Rhymes with "They ran".)

What is she?
(Hint: Rhymes with "Jimmy".)

69 Egfrow  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:34:18pm

Here is a quote from Terrorist apolegist Normon Finkelstein, Article JUly 31, 2006

The bodies of 22 children were among those recovered from under the rubble of dozens of buildings which collapsed after the bombardment, said Salam Daher, the civil defence chief in the region.

From Aljezeera:

The three other civilians were killed by shrapnel, their bodies also found on roads near Tyre, the civil defence chief in southern Lebanon, Salam Daher, said.
70 chazmo  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:34:31pm

#66
Yeah Helmet Dude cleans up real good.

71 Intestinal Fortitude  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:34:43pm

Why is it always the brownshirts white t-shirt guys controlling the crowds, handling the media, and monitoring the situation?

hmmm. Does CAIR know?

72 Cartman  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:34:53pm

The real tragedy here is that most of the the “unintentionally ignorant” get their occasional news snippets from the AP and from our "good friends" at Reuters. Public opinion is generally formed at the expense of the uninformed.

73 The Green Hornet  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:36:10pm

#66

The reason his outfit is dustless is because journalists with the utmost of integrity have photoshopped him to remove all the dust!

74 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:38:38pm

So, Ms. Gannon, who is the man you identified in your earlier article for AP as Abu Shadi Jradi?

He seems to have a lot in common with Mr. Salam Daher.


Bodies Pulled From Wreckage in Lebanon

By KATHY GANNON
The Associated Press
Sunday, July 30, 2006; 6:38 PM

QANA, Lebanon -- Abu Shadi Jradi pulled bodies out of wreckage for hours _ two toddler girls wearing tiny gold earrings, a small boy whose pale blue pacifier still hung from his neck. Somewhere in the middle, Jradi slumped beneath a tree and wept.

"There are so many children, so many children," the veteran civil defense worker said Sunday, barely able to get out the words.

* * *

Jradi said he got the call to rush to Qana from Tyre. But he couldn't go immediately, with Israeli warplanes still overhead. "It was too dangerous," he said. Through the morning, workers dug with their hands before heavy machinery arrived in the afternoon to search for bodies deeper within the wreckage.

75 rickl  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:38:38pm

OT:

Does anyone have a link to a site that has Mohammad's name written in Arabic?

/I have my reasons

76 groinpullerredux  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:39:49pm

blue green helmet whatever...but always a battle helmet and a kevlar vest...our 'friend' is prepared for worse things than paripatetic necrophelia.

i say it's appallingly obvious he's dirty....he's on the pad.

77 IndianTiger  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:40:20pm

Yikes! Associated Press is bloody repulsive!

78 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:40:48pm

Kathy Gannon is understandably defensive about her work covering Qana. I think she has reason to be.

79 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:40:51pm
AP Stands Behind Green Helmet Guy

Well, they have to, don't they. If they stand in front of him they'd block the shot of whatever mutilated child he's trying to deathp0rn.

80 ggt  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:41:20pm

Good Evening Lizards! Catching-up on the last two days of LGF. BTW, the weather is very pleasant this evening in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago.

How is everyone?

And, does anyone know where to find the death and injury statistics for Israel? Even tho APTN and Al-Reuters doesn't seem to care, I would like to know.

81 Cartman  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:41:37pm

Man, LGF is just hummin' along, with respect to reponse time. Too cool!

82 SlothB77  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:41:40pm

wait, is it abdel qader? and did he shave finally?

83 SlothB77  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:42:00pm

i thought he was a traveling mortician?

84 sailordude  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:42:16pm
Head of Operations for the Lebanese Civil Defense in Tyre

What was he doing in Qana?

I thought the roads to Qana were out the day of the bombing?

Tyre must have a mutual aid pact with Qana.

85 orangutan  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:42:34pm

So he exchanges the green helmet for the blue......of the United Nations, whose forces are famous for wearing blue helmets.

86 chazmo  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:42:53pm

Somebody really needs to make him one of those Hezbo bidness cards, maybe a photo bidness card !

87 westoner  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:43:45pm

Does anyone in a million years believe western media would show such graphic pictures after a muslim attack anywhere in the world? Where was the waving around of corpses for the media after the recent Bombay train attack? Oh that's right, that was an actual rescue operation taking place, not a propaganda stunt.

The media are operating to an agenda here. Play up attacks on muslims, play down attacks on non-muslims.

88 sunshine  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:44:15pm

Will the real Green Helmet please stand up! Is he Salam Daher, Abdel Qader, or Abu Shadi Jradi, or the mortician from Tyre?

89 Geepers  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:44:32pm

First sentance:

TYRE, Lebanon - After hours of digging in the blistering heat, Salam Daher emerged from the wreckage with the body of a 9-month-old baby, a blue pacifier still pinned to its nightshirt.

Bullshit.

90 Walter Cronanty  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:45:05pm

If you want to see a "journalist" in the tradition of my two "namesakes", please watch, if you have the stomach, Mike Wallace and his interview on "60 Minutes" this Sunday. Wallace makes Chomsky proud.

91 ggt  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:45:26pm

#81 Cartman

Man, LGF is just hummin' along, with respect to reponse time. Too cool

Isn't it tho --this morning, I couldn't get a post to stick, changing screens was impossible.

92 Thanos  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:45:30pm

A web search on his name reveals a long trail of articles, all with body count quotes from him. Note the difference in casualty figures quoted in Al jazeera and other arabic media, as well as the differing counts of dead children in several articles.
Also note the latest "massacre" on 8 / 10 -- he refuses to get a casualty count initially, stating we can't get there" because of bombardment. Then later 37 children dead. Was that a delay ploy to scour the local morgues for dead children?

93 Hucbald  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:45:40pm

Ah. It all makes sense now. Jeffery Dahmer's brother Salam.

94 Carridine  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:45:54pm
"The Lebanese make no apologies for wanting the world to see the civilian suffering in the Israeli onslaught aimed at uprooting Hezbollah."

Hizbollah HIDING IN THEIR MIDST, with Lebanese approval and active cooperation and without.

By definition, (see Geneva Conventions) this Hizbollah/Lebanese cooperation (and non-uniforming of terrorists) ERASES ALL DISTINCTIONS between "fighter" and "civilian"!

Dead babies, AFTER THE FACT, can be held up as "civilian casualties", displayed by Hizbollah as "non-combatants", and this will NEVER CHANGE the reality that Hizbollah is responsible for putting the babies and children and women and old men INTO LEGITIMATE TARGET STATUS, in accord with Geneva Conventions!

But rational adherence to law, and principled discipline in accordance with humanitarian principles DOES NOT APPLY to Hizbollah, AP, BBC, al-Jazeera, al-Reuters...

95 IndianTiger  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:47:34pm

#87 westoner

You see when Westerners and Indians are killed, it's only by Muslims fighting in Self-defense. Whereas, We kill just for fun! You know, we get off on Death ;).

96 ctrlL  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:49:24pm
79 razorbacker

AP Stands Behind Green Helmet Guy

Well, they have to, don't they. If they stand in front of him they'd block the shot of whatever mutilated child he's trying to deathp0rn.



Nominated for BEST POST OF THE DAY !

LOLOL

/the guy's job(s) (still in question) still turn my stomach

97 William  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:50:15pm

The video of "Green Helmet" in action is impossible to explain away -- HizbAllah propaganda.
 

98 Dasher  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:50:32pm

So how many members of the Lebanon Civil Defense are there? Just this one guy?

99 Cartman  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:51:07pm

#87 westoner

The media are operating to an agenda here. Play up attacks on muslims, play down attacks on non-muslims.

The MSM - helping to pave the fatal path towards dhimmitude.

100 ctrlL  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:51:41pm

Does this remind anyone of something like -

"FAKE BUT ACCURATE" ?

101 Catttt  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:51:42pm

Dashing - phooey. He's homely as a mud fence, the Don Johnson stubble looks sloppy on him, he has a girly voice, and he desecrates and poses baby corpses for a living. Phooey.

102 Walter Cronanty  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:51:49pm

87 westoner
Has the MSM ever shown the poor bastards jumping from the Twin Towers? I've seen it on the History Channel, but I don't think our esteemed "journalists" have ever shown those photos. Might stir up some unseemly feelings in the natives, don't ya know.

103 IndianTiger  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:53:07pm

#92 Thanos

The Arab media was quoting a figure of 900 civilian deaths about 2 weeks ago. Look, as much as these a**holes are obsessed with "shame" and "honor", they don't have a single ounce of either. And to be honest, I do not expect them to improve one iota in the future. It's really a very asymmetrical war. Between decent people on one side and necrophilic beasts on the other.

104 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:53:47pm
105 bill-tb  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:54:06pm

Who is shocked to learn the news media stands around waiting for the stage hands to set up the best shot, with the proper lights, the clothes all arranged for the best camera angle, clear out the riff raff, and then pawns it off to the public as what really happened? Not me, I expected it all along.

What did you think, the news media were there just recording what was going on or something like that? Didn't you see the Sheehan photos?

106 Catttt  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:54:33pm

OT:

Hannity and Colmes are tagteaming Cynthia McKinney's anti-Semitic pal, Hashim Nzinga.

Sweet.

I love it when they're on the same side.

107 IndianTiger  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:55:42pm

#96 ctrlL

79 razorbacker

AP Stands Behind Green Helmet Guy

Well, they have to, don't they. If they stand in front of him they'd block the shot of whatever mutilated child he's trying to deathp0rn.

Ha ha. This gets my vote too.

108 cba  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:56:40pm

#88 sunshine:

Will the real Green Helmet please stand up! Is he Salam Daher, Abdel Qader, or Abu Shadi Jradi, or the mortician from Tyre?

That was exactly my first reaction.

The Abu one is likely an AKA after the birth of his first son (presumably named Shadi Jradi), but why are there two other names? And it's not even as though they're close enough to be variants of the same name...

109 Bob's Kid  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:56:58pm

I don't know, perhaps it's just me, but it sure seems like, in all these photos/videos, that GHG seems to be reveling in being photographed.

The dramatic poses, the sorrowful looks, gazing off into the distance stoically...

Is it just me?

110 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 4:57:13pm

Question for the lizard minions. This guy is the Head of Operations for the Lebanese Civil Defense in Tyre, a city of some size (pop 175,000). Yet, he's going all around South Lebanon to be personally involved in relief operations in Qana, which is 10km away?

Considering the pounding that Tyre is supposedly taking, wouldn't he have his hands full dealing with the situation there instead of running to every airstrike scene in South Lebanon?

111 IndianTiger  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:00:51pm

#104 rayra

Definition of AP photo Editor: Ummmm. Someone who can edit photos.

Qualification: Level 1 of Adobe photoshopping with at least 1 hour work experience. Deftness is a minus.

112 Bobblehead  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:01:16pm

Why is he smiling?

Perhaps because he can smell the aroma of decaying flesh?

113 really grumpy big dog johnson  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:02:41pm
The Lebanese make no apologies for wanting the world to see the civilian suffering in the Israeli onslaught aimed at uprooting Hezbollah.


Bite me. Freaking ghouls think they have the answer.

I hope they all die.

114 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:03:04pm

So the AP doesn't read its own headlines....

History is about to repeat itself..
AP, we hardly knew ye

115 mkm19602000  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:03:07pm

#74 Dar ul Harb and Charles

I think AP needs to be hit hard with the two names. Which is it? Ms Gannon seems to know not? Keep slapping them hard enough and AP will have to eat crow like Reuters and I would think that two week old crow would not be too tasty. Give a heads-up to EUReferendum, Allahpundit and Michelle. Truth is truth and seems to be in short supply regarding Green/Blue Helmet Man. They have already been caught playing fast and loose with facts make them take a position and stick with it.

116 Bubbaman  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:03:48pm

It took a couple of minutes for me to pick myself off of the floor from laughing so hard when I first read this fluff piece. Is Hezbollah and AP grooming 'green helmut' guy for the talk show circuit? Perhaps an appearance or two on Larry King or Leno? Sheesh, from the AP report you'd think he was up for the Nobel or might even be a rock star.

BTW thanks Charles for the hat tip.

117 jrdroll  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:03:58pm

#110lawhawk

Question for the lizard minions. This guy is the Head of Operations for the Lebanese Civil Defense in Tyre, a city of some size (pop 175,000). Yet, he's going all around South Lebanon to be personally involved in relief operations in Qana, which is 10km away?

Did you read the ealier post on AP TV on LGF?
It is ALL propaganda.

118 Bobblehead  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:04:31pm

Then again....

That picture kinda looks like a recruiting poster.

Looking for excitment young man? See southern Lebanon like you've never seen it before...one body at a time.

119 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:05:12pm

Pardon me, but can someone point me in the direction of the FNDT?

120 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:06:21pm
121 Bob's Kid  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:06:34pm
Dashing - phooey. He's homely as a mud fence, the Don Johnson stubble looks sloppy on him, he has a girly voice, and he desecrates and poses baby corpses for a living. Phooey.

Exactly.

Hannity and Colmes are tagteaming Cynthia McKinney's anti-Semitic pal, Hashim Nzinga.

I'd like to see the transcript of that!

122 Catttt  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:06:59pm
The Lebanese make no apologies for wanting the world to see the civilian suffering in the Israeli onslaught aimed at uprooting Hezbollah.

Some of them want it so much, they're willing to help things along a bit. IMHO. (Warning - link is a sound bite.)

123 Geepers  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:07:33pm

Bubbaman (#116),

Is Hezbollah and AP grooming 'green helmut' guy for the talk show circuit?

Not if you've heard his voice.

124 Ledger1  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:08:47pm

Shouldn't Reuter add a little smoke to dramatize the photo?


1) I think every guy around Green Helmet Guy knows who he is, who he works for (the real entity that pays him), how to telephone him, and exactly how his dead body show works.

2) If the AP (Arab Press) controls the vast majority of news footage then one could conclude they are a monopoly (or at least acting in a monopolistic fashion). If they are an American company they should be subject to Anti Trust laws and FCC regulations. One would guess the Justice Department should probe the AP.

3) If only 50 + 50 people in Camden control the world’s news footage is not that a bit unsafe model for an for business entity? What if 50 or more of said editors were deported or incarcerated wouldn't that cause the collapse of the AP as we know it?

4) Wouldn't it be interest to follow the cash trail of the Camden 50 and see where it leads? What if it were learned that the Camden 50 were actually taking money from terrorist groups? Wouldn’t this lead to raid and possible arrest?

5) Is not illegal to desecrate children’s bodies on TV. Are not there laws about Child abuse, Child Porn, and Child body displays which are applicable in Lebanon, Europe, and the USA? If so should not Green Helmet Guy and his child exploiting cast be arrested? Or,shouldn't said dead children footage be banned in certian countries?

125 Promethea  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:09:07pm

#65 jwbrown1969 . . .

Do y'all recall how PO's people were when the US showed Uday and Qusay's bodies, because it was un Islamic?

Good catch! I guess in the Islamic world, a new custom can be invented upon demand, depending on how it can be played.

That would explain the requirement for saran-wrapped Korans for muslim killers in Guantanamo. Mo, of course, did not use saran-wrap, but nevermind.....

Anyway, now we know. According to the AP, it's OK to bop around dead children like stuffed animals. However, DO NOT display the fetid corpses of psychotic mass murderers like Uday and Qusay. That would be disrespectful.

126 IndianTiger  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:09:10pm

Iran Poised To Be "Mother of All World Threats"
By Walid Phares

For anyone who still thinks the Israeli-Lebanon war is just a border scuffle, one Middle East expert shouts a dire warning: "As soon as a cease fire occurs, the ‘Hezbollah Blitzkrieg' will crumble the ‘Lebanese Republic of Weimar' and install its own ‘Khumeinist Republic' on the Eastern shores of the Mediterranean. The consequences of such a development are far beyond imagination for the region and the world. Hezbollah would have paved the way for Iran to create the mother of all world threats since Hitler."

So cautions Professor Walid Phares, author of "Future Jihad," a visiting fellow with the European Foundation for Democracy in Brussels, and a senior fellow with the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies in Washington, D.C.

In an exclusive interview with NewsMax, the Lebanese-born Phares likens the current Hezbollah offensive in Lebanon to a "putsch" -- with the convoluted aims of reestablishing a pro-Syrian-Iranian regime in Lebanon, reconstructing a third wing to the Tehran-Damascus axis, reanimating the Arab-Israeli conflict, rejuvenating Syrian dominance, isolating Jordan, reaching out to Hamas, crumbling Iraq, and unleashing Iran's nuclear programs.

The author also sees half-measures and premature truces as catalysts to even bloodier future conflicts:

"If Israel takes 40 kilometers [into the southern belly of Lebanon] and sits, Hezbollah and its allies will take the rest of the country and eliminate the Cedars Revolution [the Lebanese Democracy movement]. That is a certainty. Then the two camps will clash in a wider war in few more months."

As a corollary, however, the expert advises that if Israel gets even more aggressive and moves instead through the Bekaa (a fertile valley in Lebanon and Syria, located about 19 miles east of Beirut), it would shut down the Syrian-Lebanese borders (a major supply line for war materials flowing to Hezbollah)....

The long story short, says the expert: Syria, Iran and Hezbollah outmaneuvered the Lebanese politicians, as well as the West, by among other things keeping pro-Syrian Emile Jamil Lahoud, president of the Republic of Lebanon at the helm.

"It was terrible how the Lebanese politicians lost all the opportunities provided by the Cedars Revolution," laments Phares, "but it is worse that the bureaucrats in the U.S. and Europe didn't understand what Hezbollah was doing."

........

More at counterterrorismblog.com...

127 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:09:19pm

' Green Helmet Guy ' my butt:

Sick Twisted Bastard is more like it. This piece of human debris is definitely not bein' a guy.

128 nofreelunch  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:09:37pm

Maybe we can get Cindy Shehag and GHG to hook up. They both seem to have that unhealthy fascination with death thing going.

129 tangonine  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:10:15pm

a blue helmet. how spiffy. He'll fit right in with the French UN surrender monkeys.

130 rickl  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:10:30pm

#120 rayra

Is Moira Bill Whittle's idiot moonbat cousin?

/I sure hope not

131 easy  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:11:06pm
Head of Dead Operations for the Lebanese Civil Defense in Tyre, Salam Daher


How come he never comes out with live people.

132 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:11:19pm

Well, if you guys don't mind, I will go ahead and have a drink...

133 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:12:26pm

#74,

Abu Shadi Jradi?

That's a misprint, it's actually Shoddy Jihadi

134 really grumpy big dog johnson  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:12:32pm

Amalie

I'm missing it too. Badly.

Charles has no radar for the cell phone alarm, he's all over fraud and parading childrens body for propaganda, and he may be missing a bellwether moment in the fight against Islamist domination.

I need THAT thread. In fact, I may even hit the adult beverage store. Seems like a very good option right now.

135 rickl  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:12:47pm

Amalie:

Feel free. I've obviously already started, as you can tell from my #130.

136 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:13:29pm

145 really grumpy

Go for it.. I've already started..

/hi Grumpy

137 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:13:57pm

Amalie,

New drinking game: every time someone on the tube says ' Chapter Six '.....

138 da lai lager  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:14:09pm

"In 1996, he moved to Tyre, a city where Hezbollah's influence is weaker than other parts of the south because of the power of more secular Shiite parties."

Tyre. Isn't that the place where the Hezbollah were firing missiles out of the second floor of a residential building?

139 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:14:10pm

135 rickl

Cheers..

140 really grumpy big dog johnson  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:16:02pm

There's something terribly depressing when a guy can endlessly parade the corpses of children in support of a murderous terrorist regime, and not spend extreme time in prison.

Or simply be shot, right on the spot. Call be ugly, see if I care.

141 Bill Jefferson  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:16:32pm
a blue pacifier still pinned to its nightshirt.

A magic, dust-free blue pacifier.

Actually, "pacifier" is a better word to describe precision munitions that kill the HizbSatan bastards who put these kids in danger by firing rockets at other kids from their neighborhood.

142 FAQs  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:16:40pm

I think Blue Helmet Guy is actually a clever marketing gimmick. Like the Power Rangers, kids will have to buy the whole set of action figures.

143 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:16:44pm

O/T:
You can't say Lamont's not a detail oriented, careful type of guy....
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

144 Catttt  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:18:50pm

123 Geepers

Heh.

He could appear in drag (if he'd shave).

145 saywhat?  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:20:02pm

#120 Rayra

Damn, you're good! Between Charles article educating us about the stranglehold AP and Reuters models have on information and the lizard minions digging up the fine details, the msm is toast.

146 Promethea  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:20:45pm

#103 IndianTiger . . .

It's really a very asymmetrical war. Between decent people on one side and necrophilic beasts on the other.

Well said.

147 Bobblehead  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:22:39pm

[Link: www.rare-posters.com...]


Know him by his helmet

148 Paul  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:23:28pm

Perhaps the Muslims do like to pose and show off their dead, after all, they enjoy car swarms.

But how do you explain the complicity of Reurters and the AP in the Muslim death festivals?

149 chazmo  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:25:06pm

#144
Damn, GHG sounds alot like Mike Tyson,

150 Julie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:26:19pm

Looking at that hand shove that dead child's head back and forth makes me physically sick. Considering the likely possibility that this child was deliberately placed where he was in order to become a dead puppet makes me unbelievably angry. When are we going to take these savages out?

151 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:27:08pm

How could Green Helmet Guy dig around for hours and be so clean?

And how did he clean the pacifier?

And why?

And why not clean the baby while he was cleaning things?

Was he or was he not at the Lebanon Cabinet meeting?

152 Dasher  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:27:17pm

Since Tyre is only 6 miles from Qana there is not much of a problem getting there. If Tyre is really 175,000 people the cities most likely touch each other.

153 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:28:52pm
154 ctrlL  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:29:15pm

120 rayra

124 Ledger1

Great insight and nominated for the -

BEST (SERIOUS/UNFUNNY) POSTS OF THE NIGHT

Folks, you need to read them ....

I love LGF and the contributors.

thank you

/cheers to the FNDT group, too

155 friarstale  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:30:22pm

I think what they're trying to say here is this:
In your face, Bloggers!
You want to know who he is? This is him. And he was just doing his job; digging out the dead bodies from Israel's cruel, heartless bombardment of civilians.
Now aren't you ashamed?

/I'm not. And I still don't believe them.

156 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:31:17pm
157 Promethea  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:32:13pm

#124 Ledger1 . . .

4) Wouldn't it be interest to follow the cash trail of the Camden 50 and see where it leads? What if it were learned that the Camden 50 were actually taking money from terrorist groups? Wouldn’t this lead to raid and possible arrest?

I've believed for some time that the U.S. media is directly controlled by Islamist funds--through Saudi bribes, through direct ownership, through front organizations of Soros-type endeavors. It would be interesting if someone could follow the money and take down the operations of those who are trying to destroy civilization.

158 mkm19602000  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:33:04pm

#144 catt...

I went to your link and the first thing I thought is "He sounds like Michael Palin in the Monty Python Spam bit". I go down and read the comments and someone else said he sounded like Monty Python. I guess I won't ever have an original thought. LOL

On the other hand I wish someone that spoke Lebanese could translate for us, because he sounded very stressed.

159 Walter Cronanty  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:33:11pm

Hi Amalie - You've got some catching up to do. Can anyone name an institution that has been so consistently harmful to American interests than the MSM [perhaps the NEA?]? Ever since Watergate/Vietnam, the media seems to be on a never ending quest to tear down our country. Why is that? J schools? Terrible public schools and universitites apparently filled with profesors who missed the last bus out of the 60's? Parents?

160 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:35:16pm

#159 Walter Cronanty 8/11/2006 07:33PM PDT

Hi Amalie - You've got some catching up to do.

Hi Walter

Why yes, I do have some catching up to do!

:D

161 The Monster  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:38:58pm

#130 rickl

Are you feeling the effects of Whittle Withdrawal like I am? It's only been 3 weeks, and I'm really jonesin' for some Fresh Whittle. I may have to go back and score some Moldy Old Whittle just to tide me over.

162 Geepers  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:39:43pm

Walter Cronanty (#159),

Terrible public schools and universitites apparently filled with profesors who missed the last bus out of the 60's?

Perfect.

163 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:40:59pm

#154/Rayra

That's Flat Fatima, allright, from another thread.
:)

164 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:42:03pm

(raising hand)

I can: the ACLU

165 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:43:08pm

(#164 in reply to #159)

166 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:43:19pm
167 republic  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:46:08pm

"Lies, Deceit, and Distortions, how the A.P. and Rueters tried to deceive the world".

/shame

168 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:46:34pm

#166 rayra,

Look no further than the masthead motto of the NYTimes:
All the news that fits, we print.

169 mkm19602000  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:48:03pm

Oh, and that lovely blue helmet and vest are the colors worn by the Press not the UN. Coincidence I think not. So is his incantation as Blue Helmet Guy the actual true profession of his alter ego of Green Helmet Guy? Namely media liason?

170 really grumpy big dog johnson  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:51:29pm

rayra

You hit the nail smack on the head.

Reuters is a tremendously large and powerful corporation, and if their arrogance requires them to jump in front of the bus while declaring immortality, I'm not exactly going to shout for the bus driver to hit the brakes.

But if Reuters is smart, and not mind-numbingly stupid like Mapes and Rather, they will negotiate their way out of shallow shoals rather than fouling the shore, and quite possibly on our own beach.

There's no reason for them to go away, if they change and become a news organization again.

If they want to be arrogant and insist that they are the ultimate authority, I give them less than five years to live. Possibly much less.

It's all up to them.

171 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:52:36pm

Once again, those hard questions for the legacy media to answer:

Is Green Helmet, identified as "Abdel Qader" in the Al Jazeera coverage, and now identified by yet another name, "Salam Daher," in AP correspondent Kathy Gannon's latest piece, the same man Gannon talked for her contemporaneous AP report from Qana who was then called "Abu Shadi Jradi"?

Is "Abu Shadi Jradi" the same man called "Abu Shadi" that the Toronto Globe and Mail's Mark MacKinnon quoted so uncritically and extensively showing off his refrigerated truck of decaying corpses in Tyre a few days prior to the story filed by Gannon in Qana?

Were any of the corpses we see on display in Qana transported from elsewhere in Lebanon?

What news organizations and associated stringers were there in Qana for what the Nordeutcher Rundfunk footage now reveals as a propaganda show, and what did they do with the material they gathered?

It would be great if Nordeutcher Rundfunk could release the unedited footage to the web for analysis.

And though it seems obvious, what connection does Green Helmet have with Hizballah's Media Relations department?

Is he really a "civil defense worker" or a "mortician" in a dual role as propagandist?

172 Walter Cronanty  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:53:11pm

164 tradewind - I respectfully disagree. The ACLU does not, and cannot, change elections - in fact, except maybe in San Francisco, the support of the ACLU is probably a kiss of death. While undeniably successful in the courts, the ACLU is generally met with groans by the general populace. But the MSM can shape public opinion and change elections, and thereby, to a much larger extent, the future of our country. I thank G-d for LGF, Zombie, Michelle Maulkin, etc., for if not for these people and the internet, our "market place of ideas" would look like a meat market in the old USSR.

173 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 5:58:00pm

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

Hardball
Rangel: 'Islamofascist' an Insult - 'You Never Called Hitler a Christian Fascist'
Posted by Mark Finkelstein on August 11, 2006 - 21:47.

It doesn't take much to offend liberals' exquisite sensitivities. The latest? Referring to Islamofascists as . . . Islamofascists. Chris Matthews got the ball rolling on this evening's Hardball. But Charlie Rangel upped the ante to the max, managing to impugn Christians and Jews in the bargain. Fortunately, GOP Congressman Dan Lungren had the guts to call Rangel on it.

Matthews got things started by challenging Lungren: "Would you include Hezbollah in that group [of Islamofascists]? Would you include Hamas, they are they enemies of Israel. Are they also enemies of ours? Are they also fascists because they have a dispute with Israel? Anybody who is against us is a fascist now."

Rangel sent things to the moon a bit later with this line: "You take Islamic and you call them fascists, you call them radical. You never called Hitler a Christian fascist. This is insulting to an entire religion."

174 imploder  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:00:10pm

I think I might wretch... hold on... OK, Green Helmet guy is a normal civil defense guy like the schrader valve on inflatable scrotum guy just sort of ended up there, and inflatable scrotum guy just happened to be near a gas station with and air hose, and, well, the rest is history.

175 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:04:01pm

Walter, re #159,
I was answering the question, maybe I didn't read far enough:


Can anyone name an institution that has been so consistently harmful to American interests than the MSM [perhaps the NEA?]?

The ACLU can and has done everything from tie the hands of those who would protect this country to allowing hate-America swill to be passed off in the name of free speech in our classrooms, so I think they've done their share of harm. And they have changed elections, even voided them via litigation of one sort or another.

Just sayin',
(respectfully)

176 ctrlL  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:05:33pm

158 mkm19602000
I guess I won't ever have an original thought. LOL
Welcome to the world of blogs, where like-minded people 'read your mind' ! LOL

159 Walter Cronanty
Terrible public schools and universitites apparently filled with profesors who missed the last bus out of the 60's? Parents?
How right you are, here !

166 rayra
Gooooo, Rayra !

167 republic
Best Seller NYT Amazon 2007
"Lies, Deceit, and Distortions, how the A.P. and Rueters tried to deceive the world". *by REPUBLIC*

160 Amalie
Why yes, I do have some catching up to do!
Me, too !

/slurp, ... hic

177 abolitionist  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:05:58pm

#33 logger phd

Who was it who first said, if you tell a lie often enough, people will start to believe it?

I recall reading it in Mein Kampf, attributed to Joseph Goebbels, I think. The lesson was that people were more receptive to big lies than to small ones.

178 Amalie  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:07:57pm

175 tradewind

The ACLU can and has done everything from tie the hands of those who would protect this country to allowing hate-America swill to be passed off in the name of free speech in our classrooms, so I think they've done their share of harm. And they have changed elections, even voided them via litigation of one sort or another.

I know I have a lot to learn but I think I can agree with you on this.

/Can't I?

179 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:10:04pm

#173,
If that doesn't get the Republicans off the dime to vote in Nov even if they're not totally happy, maybe the phrase House Chairman of Ways and Means Rangel will.

180 Catttt  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:11:11pm

156 rayra


The endless photos of old ulululuing women, hands in the air, are really getting on my last nerve.

181 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:11:32pm

#178,Amalie

Why yes, Grasshopper. Sit and learn.
/laughing/

182 tradewind  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:17:12pm

Goodnight ya'll, but I must leave you with this... Another evil Zionist attack. A kinky one, too.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

183 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:22:25pm

Hunka' Hunka' burnin' love.

184 Walter Cronanty  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:30:22pm

175 tradewind - Don't mean to beat a dead horse dead whores, but the ACLU is recognized as a left-wing, agenda driven organization. The MSM poses as being objective. Plus, nobody delivers the ACLU newsletter to your front door everyday, unless you subscribe to the NYTs. I guess we're arguing about how many scumbags can dance on the head of a pin, but I really think the breadth and scope of the MSM's influence is much greater than the ACLU's.

185 jwbaumann  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:38:33pm

Hmmm...

Their cultural practices include holding up dead bodies of children as a form of grieving. Got it. I'll pass that on to the cultural sensitivity trainers at work.

If an American rescue worker, or for that matter, *ANY* American, held up a dead child for a media photographer at the scene of a tragedy, I suspect even the LLL would be outraged, and criminal charges would ensue. Then they would blame Bush.

/barf

186 Bay54  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 6:49:33pm

Send your words of protest directly to the AP, I have. The AP was highly respected during WWII-it is not so respected now owing to the Green Helmet and other items. Contact the AP and tell them what you think.

187 Carridine  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 7:03:23pm

#177 - Abolitionist, said:

"I recall reading it in Mein Kampf, attributed to Joseph Goebbels, I think. The lesson was that people were more receptive to big lies than to small ones."

Agreed, and probably because BIG LIES are, by their very nature, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to refute! Ordinary citizens didn't know, haven't known where to access accurate reports, data, voting decisions, official policy...

THAT is why the Big Lies of today DON'T FLOAT!

We, the People of the Blogosphere, DO KNOW where to access the Independent Investigation of Truth!

188 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 7:19:06pm

Nice nasal-hair treatment.

189 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 7:27:15pm

Surely the treatment of the nasal-hair issue reveals a narcissitic issue.

WTF.

Ignore me.

190 nocoolname  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 7:52:56pm

Note that the pic of "Blue Helmet" is what pro photogs would call a "power shot." The camera's point of view is low, so the viewer is "looking up to" the subject.

191 Fight The Hypocrisy  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 7:56:10pm

Does anybody have the e-mail adress for the AP Editor in Chief or whoever would have to okay this story. I have to e-mail him/her and ask how they can explain this article being released after the German TV released the video from Qana with Green Helmet abusing the bodies of dead children. I want an explanation. TIA.

192 Sidtara  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 8:15:58pm

Besides "Abdel Qader"

and "Abu Shadi"

and "Abu Shadi Jradi"

and "Salam Daher"

Hezballah's cryptkeeper has also been identified as one "Naim Raqa, head of civil defense in the nearby town of Jouaya" in this San Francisco Chronicle article by Rania Abouzeid: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

"I was in Qana in '96," the exhausted rescue worker said...

The SFC article features a thumbnail of Green Helmet carrying what else? a dead child.

Rhym Ghazal of The Daily Star (Beirut) apparently likes the alternate spelling of "Abu Chadi."

193 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 8:30:34pm

#187 Carradine

THAT is why the Big Lies of today DON'T FLOAT!

We, the People of the Blogosphere, DO KNOW where to access the Independent Investigation of Truth!

Yep. (Thank goodness!)

194 big L  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 9:10:19pm

this guy is one sick f*ck.

195 jwbaumann  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 9:15:34pm

Slightly OT, but this reflects both Reuters' fact checking (or lack thereof) and general obliviousness to (and disdain for?) things that are mainstream Christian. This article today about Mel Gibson refers to his "1994" film, "The Passion of The Christ."

[Link: today.reuters.com...]

It's at the very bottom of the article.

196 ctrlL  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 9:17:18pm
194 big L
this guy is one sick f*ck.



Well now, thank you for your total honesty and disregard for the PC crap going on everywhere else !

Who cares about the lies of AP ?
Who cares about his name ?
Who cares about WHO he is ?

IT IS WHAT HE IS THAT MATTERS !

197 Carridine  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 9:46:04pm

Green Helmet is humiliated AGAIN, in this recording leaked by NSA operatives...

198 Sidtara  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 10:53:38pm

GREEN HELMET ALERT!

It seems there is a photographer in the Daher family! An AP photographer, no less. (Who does Kathy Gannon represent again? I forget.) His name: LUTFALLAH DAHER of Marjayoun. (AP's Kathy Gannon has already told us Marjayoun is also GREEN HELMET's place of birth. Of course, she could be lying.) [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Anyhoo, here are some of Lutfallah's photos:

First up: "Lebanese Shepherd murdered by Jews" (of course) [Link: arizona.indymedia.org...]

Note the man in black with glasses hovering near the corpse. Could it be Green Helmet? Abdel Qader? Abu Shadi Jradi? Naim Raqa? Salam Daher? All of the above?

Here's another AP offering from Lutfallah: Lonely soldier on a hilltop with only his gun to keep him company.
[Link: www.estadao.com.br...]
Kinda remind you of this, minus the tire fire?
[Link: us.news1.yimg.com...]

Yeah, me too.

But above all, Lutfallah seems to like taking pictures of SMOKE [Link: web.israelinsider.com...]

Not enough SMOKE? Here's some more.
[Link: www.protection-palestine.org...]

STILL not enough SMOKE? Here ya go. [Link: www.cp.org...]

Needless to say, it is all disproportionate Israeli smoke.

Oh, and how do I know that Lutfallah "the photographer" is from Marjayoun, Green Helmet's birthplace? Because on AUG 11, 2006 an Israeli drone just happened to fire on a convoy in which Lutfallah and members of his family were traveling. According to Lutfallah (and really no one else) six people were killed in this Zionist atrocity, but none of them were members of his family, Allah be praised.
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

They were leaving Marjayoun.

HMMM? I wonder which member(s) of the Daher family the Israelis were targeting? Smoky Lutfallah or Cryptkeepr Salam?

199 quilly mammoth  Fri, Aug 11, 2006 10:59:05pm

Ben Curtis, the "photojournalist" of this bit is complicit in the Hezzbull Acting Troupe. Remember the picture of the same woman wailing over two seperate blasted houses? There is a third picture and it resides on Curtis' blog.

I have copied it here:

200 LC LaWedgie  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 1:45:56am

U.A.E. blocks Flickr, MSN Spaces, YouTube

This is with regard to letters from readers which talk about the blocking of the [Link: www.youtube.com...] website. The website was blocked by Etisalat on instruction from the authorities because of the presence of adult content on the website, which is clearly against the religious, cultural, political and moral values of the UAE. The site is prone to content abuse and there are no clear boundaries that define adult content from regular content.

About a few months ago, MSN spaces was blocked. Although this isn’t such an important site which many people use, I still find the aspect of blocking something for no good reason a little silly. They also blocked Flickr previously,...

201 insane_kufr  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 2:38:23am

garish is the only word I can think of to describe these cretins.

Let's review; muslims love death, they make reference to that making them stronger than the west, because they love death and westerners fear death. They love death so much they want to parade about with corpses, displaying the corpses fulfills two objectives: one, striking fear into western hearts?, and two, demonstrating their boundless love for the deceased? I'm sorry, nothing these people do makes any sense. They are ghoulish, disrespectful people and should be deeply ashamed of their actions.

202 xanadu1015  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 2:44:11am

Anyone want to bet that this guy was given a blue helmet so he looks like he's with the UN?

203 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 2:46:53am

In a pigs eye this is Green Helmet Guy.

Let's start with the fact that this guy is sitting behind the wheel about to drive off in a van - but he isn't wearing his glasses!

Every photo of Green Helmet Guy shows him wearing those glasses. He apparently needs them to dig in rubble and walk, so he surely needs them to drive too.

And then explain this - Green Helmet Guy Doctoring Death

204 uptight  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 3:11:23am

There is NO WAY that this is green helmet. Green Helmet is older and looks like one of Monty Python's Gumby characters.

205 Ben F  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 3:17:46am
After hours of digging in the blistering heat, Salam Daher emerged from the wreckage with the body of a 9-month-old baby, a blue pacifier still pinned to its nightshirt.

As noted by many others, the AP piece opens wih a bald-faced lie that rivals the work of Adnan Hajj.

Here are the photos of "Salam Daher" emerging from the wreckage at Qana. He is dust-free and well-composed. Those are not the pictures of a man who was digging for hours in blistering heat in a collapsed concrete building.

Kathy Gannon belongs in the Journalism Hall of Shame along with Dan Rather and Adnan Hajj. Don't fail to mention her in your future media appearances, Charles!

206 uptight  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 3:19:21am
207 Vulgorilla  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 4:34:30am

Ah yes ... the AP (Associated Phables). Whenever I see the AP byline, I stop reading and move on to the next story. AP no longer has any value, unless you want a fairy tale to read to your kids.

208 GT2_Oasis 14  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 2:59:15pm

Bust of Tribute for a lifetime of selfless service by Hizballah's favorite PR Mortician: Green Helmet Guy.

209 mattm  Sat, Aug 12, 2006 5:20:01pm
Bloggers have accused rescue workers and volunteers of showing off victims for the media. The Lebanese make no apologies for wanting the world to see the civilian suffering in the Israeli onslaught aimed at uprooting Hezbollah.

Wow! I didn't expect this.


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