Cute guy, huh? Why, he would do any mother proud.

sarc/on full blast

Just posted this on the last thread

OT Update on Mom's surgery. At this time she is still in surgery but we've had an update that everything is going well so far. Keep praying.

He speaks the truth! Indeed- read the koran and one can see for themselves that allah loves jihadis.

The Timesonline site is slow - it loads, but won't play the video.

Murder of innocents while killing yourself isn't martyrdom... It's murder/suicide.

I'm not going to watch this, because I'll just want to help him satisfy his martyrdom wish, but without taking anyone else with him. Change that, he can take Falk with him. Oh yes, Koffi Anan, Dhimmi Carter, etc.

Uh- pretty pathetic that he's barely able to read his own statement.

Alooo Ockbar!

Oh he was just rehearsing for a play he was trying out for! What's wrong with you people?!

/

Oh, fuck you and your stupid allah, Umar.

he's got the kind of face you can't punch just once.......

(where's my ax handle? %-)

The video shows that Islam is a religious facade for an ideology of murder and brutality.

He needs this.

From the Airline Plot by Daniel Henninger @ WSJ online:

"... Umar Islam mocks complacent Brits: "Most of you too busy, you know, watching Home and Away and EastEnders, complaining about the World Cup, drinking your alcohol." This would be fascinating as one nut's reason for murder. It is instead the basis for an ideology to justify blowing up thousands.

The prosecution said a computer memory stick on one of the men at his arrest listed the targeted flights. They were: United Airlines Flight 931 to San Francisco; UA959 to Chicago; UA925 to Washington; Air Canada 849 to Toronto; AC865 to Montreal; American Airlines 131 to New York and AA91 to Chicago. The first flight would depart at 2:15 p.m., the last at 4:50 p.m., allowing all to be aloft and out of U.S. or British airspace when they fell.

The private intelligence-analysis agency, Stratfor, concludes from the trial that "al Qaeda remains fixated on aircraft as targets and, in spite of changes in security procedures since 9/11, aircraft remain vulnerable to attack."

The men planned to take the bomb pieces onboard for assembly: empty plastic bottles, a sugary drink powder, hydrogen peroxide and other materials to be detonated with the flash on disposable cameras.

The arrests of the men, who say they are innocent, were the result of broad and prolonged surveillance. For months, the suspects were bugged, photographed and wiretapped.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

re: #2 BenZ's Bat
Still keeping all of you in my thoughts and prayers.

Assuming his name is pronounced "Oomar" I'm gonna' call him Goober.

/gang war alert!

notice someone crossed out the placa over his left shoulder? sure sign there's trouble brewing in the barrio...... %-)

"....until you leave our lands."

Hey- feel free to leave ours!

re: #19 Sharmuta

Hey- feel free to leave ours!

* * *
Lefty won't let him leave, they're paying welfare for him & up to four wives.

re: #8 Sharmuta

Uh- pretty pathetic that he's barely able to read his own statement.

I had to quit watching. BP doesn't need to be that high.

re: #20 alegrias

* * *
Lefty won't let him leave, they're paying welfare for him & up to four wives.

(In corporate slang, the golden handcuffs)

Isn't it ironic?

This person and sentiment is not universally condemned.

But if it was wholly featured in Fitna, then it would be.

re: #23 Opinionated

Isn't it ironic?

This person and sentiment is not universally condemned.

But if it was wholly featured in Fitna, then it would be.

Good point.

Everyone else can play it? I must have some obscure setting set wrong or something.

re: #19 Sharmuta

Hey- feel free to leave ours!

Why should they leave? They get to violate Britain's laws against polygamy and they receive welfare.

They can practice shari'a just the way they want and spend their days plotting jihad-genocide.

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

I'm sorry, but anyone who has to state his convictions from a prompter text is pretty lame in my book.

G-ddamnit... ooh.. I mean Allah damn it. /achmed

He's a pathetic, barely literate moron, but he knows his Koran.

These martyr videos and plots on trial in Britain yesterday weren't mentioned in yesterday's grilling of General Petraeus & Amb. Crocker as relevant, were they?

Two of our three presidential candidates think these are "Just Words".

re: #26 zmdavid
It didn't play for me the first time but I went back to the link and it finally played.

re: #5 MrSilverDragon

Murder of innocents while killing yourself isn't martyrdom... It's murder/suicide.

I'm with you - the suicide is really incidental to the murdering.

I have trouble with this kind of thing.

I get angry because when the BRits thought it was exclusive to Joos and Israel, they didn't give a shit.

When they heard the cries of "kill the infidels!" from their street corners for years and years, they did nothing; "infidels" meant Jews, and "Jews" meant Israel.

They never showed the Pali videos (the people who invented them to begin with).

For years I would scream, "Wait until it happens to you, because it is coming!"

Am I supposed to give a shit?

It's hard, I LOVE British culture. All of it.

I follow the PRemier League for G-d's sake!

My closest friend (in the top three) is a Brit gentile, whose eyes were opened when he took the plunge and actually came to my wedding in Israel (not listening to all the "are you crazy" advice he was getting).

So excuse me if I take the Brit MSM show and feigned concern with a little more than a grain of salt.

I was there (Israel) when buses were blowing up every other day (one blowing the CDs etc, off my shelves).

They didn't give a shit.

"Umar Islam"

Any bets on his real name being something like Jimmy Dorset?

Nevermind, found it

Mr Islam, 29, from Plaistow, East London, a convert of Jamaican origin who was born Brian Young, appeared to be reading from a pre-prepared script in the 18-minute video and punctuated his speech by occasionally jabbing his finger at the screen.

Pathetic

Lenin has been quoted saying "When the time comes to hang the capitalists, they'll sell us the rope with which to do it."

Isn't something analogous happening today? We welcome these scum to our shores, coddle them, and provide them with technology to spread their vile ideology.

re: #17 MandyManners

George Lindsay might take exception to that.

Well the general belief that you shit your brains out when you become a Muslim proves itself again.

re: #29 godfrey

He's a pathetic, barely literate moron, but he knows his Koran.

* * *
About his buddy would be martyr:

Waheed Zaman studied biomedical science at London Metropolitan University. In his video Zaman says, "I have been educated to a high standard. I could have lived a life of ease but instead chose to fight for the sake of Allah's Deen [religion]."

(from WSJ.com article by D. Henninger)

And I'd like to know what reason #1 is.

It starts with reason #2.

Unless it's getting lost in the buffering.

Anyone else get the impression he had to screw up his courage to make this statement "fierce"?

Let's see, here's a Muslim saying that the Koran commands him to kill "in [Allah's] path, and that jihad is something you fight, not some vague internal struggle.

Do we still have to believe that it's the Religion of Peace™?

re: #38 alegrias

Yes, I know. The fu is not strong in this one. That's all I'm saying.

I guess I can take some refuge in the fact that this guy is BRitish, not English.

Breaking: Judge dismisses most of Rather’s lawsuit against CBS over Rathergate

...and before any other smartass says it,

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

re: #36 Burkha, Flies and a Shiekh

George Lindsay might take exception to that.

Oops! I hadn't thought of that. How about "Goomer" 'cause this twit wants to become "goo"?

"Until you leave our lands"; It's time we take steps to force them leave our lands.

"This is a warning to the non-beleivers: If they do not leave our land...."

Ironic, since the schmuck is sitting in England.

How about this loving husband:

"...Abdullah Ahmed Ali was caught on a wiretap telling his wife that he wished to bring his baby son along on the suicide mission. She resists. His suicide video, intended to become public after the planes blew up and shown at trial, promises "floods of martyr operations against you" and "your people's body parts decorating the streets."

(from WSJ.com article)

If in this video he were discussing a conquest in a video game tournament we'd think nothing of him. Here's a 30-something Muslim child mind anyone of us could have dealings with, and after a few moments of him practicing Taqiyya (concealing his beliefs) we'd never consider him a threat. How can we trust anyone of them?

re: #47 Ben Hur

"This is a warning to the non-beleivers: If they do not leave our land...."

Ironic, since the schmuck is sitting in England.

and originally from Jamaica

What would happen if you take a kid like Brian Young and tell him that there are many different forms of Islam, all legitimate, some much more intelligent and peaceful than others. Would he be tempted not to fall in with the Wahabbists? What was the tipping point with this kid?

I'm asking because some people say that insisting that this kid is reading the Koran rightly only serves to increase the stature of Wahabbists as normative. If we confuse this kid earlier, maybe he wouldn't join the jihadis.

Thoughts?

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

and originally from Jamaica

* * *
The Caliphate is now global, mon.
Like the UN.

re: #45 MandyManners

re: #45 MandyManners

Oops! I hadn't thought of that. How about "Goomer" 'cause this twit wants to become "goo"?

Or "Boomer", cause that's the sound he'll be making if his wishes come true.

Wait, didn't one of the asshat Mullahs in England get deported to Jamaica in like the last year or so?

Call it "Fitna 2 - The Sequel"

re: #51 godfrey

What would happen if you take a kid like Brian Young and tell him that there are many different forms of Islam, all legitimate, some much more intelligent and peaceful than others. Would he be tempted not to fall in with the Wahabbists? What was the tipping point with this kid?

I'm asking because some people say that insisting that this kid is reading the Koran rightly only serves to increase the stature of Wahabbists as normative. If we confuse this kid earlier, maybe he wouldn't join the jihadis.

Thoughts?

* * *
"...The names of the accused plotters, all men in their 20s, are Abdullah Ahmed Ali, Assad Sarwar, Tanvir Hussain, Mohammed Gulzar, Ibrahim Savant, Arafat Khan, Waheed Zaman and Umar Islam. They lived around London, in Walthamstow, Leyton, Plaistow and Barking. Most are Pakistanis.

*from WSJ.com article)
*****
Madrassah education in Pakistan probably was more formative.

re: #52 alegrias

The UN is the path to the Caliphate.

Mo wrote some exceptionally bad, self-replicating, parasitic malware for humans. Keep scanning the ROP trojans.

re: #55 MadJadBad

Call it "Fitna 2 - The Sequel"

Fitna 2 - Jihadi Boogaloo

re: #57 Kenneth

The UN is the path to the Caliphate.

* * *
It is now.

Another 'brave' mujihadeen who can only fight people who can't fight back and aren't prepared to fight. Pathetic, drooling, brain-dead moron.

This kid would be better off cooking dumplings in John Bull's Reggae Kitchen.

Domplin' is poor man bread. Nice nice.

"...The names of the accused plotters, all men in their 20s, are Abdullah Ahmed Ali, Assad Sarwar, Tanvir Hussain, Mohammed Gulzar, Ibrahim Savant, Arafat Khan, Waheed Zaman and Umar Islam."

The fabled Idiot Savant was among them.

re: #56 alegrias

Excellent. Thanks!

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You're jesting right? Not one of them has ever been deported - we get to keep them all, and all of their wives and children on benefits.

Anything else is an infringement of their 'yuman rights' doncha know.

re: #63 jaunte

"...The names of the accused plotters, all men in their 20s, are Abdullah Ahmed Ali, Assad Sarwar, Tanvir Hussain, Mohammed Gulzar, Ibrahim Savant, Arafat Khan, Waheed Zaman and Umar Islam."

The fabled Idiot Savant was among them.

I'm surprised that doesn't read "all boys in their 20s."

What the Muslims could not do by force of arms, they have done by simply moving to the UK and the Brits let them do it.

Well, look at Rome and you'll see the same sort of thing - large tribes of "barbarians" migrating into Roman territory and not assimilating. Eventually, they were more numerous than the indigenous Romans and Rome wasn't Rome anymore.

re: #63 jaunte

"...The names of the accused plotters, all men in their 20s, are Abdullah Ahmed Ali, Assad Sarwar, Tanvir Hussain, Mohammed Gulzar, Ibrahim Savant, Arafat Khan, Waheed Zaman and Umar Islam."

The fabled Idiot Savant was among them.

Do they just pick a bunch of Arab names and pull them out of a hat when they convert?

This bastard of a religion entices thugs and ne'er-do-wells to join with promises that any crime they commit against a non-muslim is okay. Very attractive stuff for wannabe jihadis. After all, they're told point blank that it's okay to rape their neighbor's 12 year old daughter. Why wouldn't they come running like cockroaches for the opportunity? And if her father gets in the way... why, just kill him... he's a dirty infidel and deserves it anyway.

When America and the rest of the world comes to its senses and bans this criminal, murderous, slanderous excuse for a religion, the country and the world will be a far better place.

/Sarc on

But... but... but... we all know Christianity and Judaism are just as violent.... they should be banned, too.

And look how peaceful all the muslim lands are...

/Sarc off

'2 Palestinians planned to poison food as Ramat Gan restaurant'

He'd give his right eye to kill a Joo.

Did he say he is doing this for the pleasure of allah and that allah loves the muhadjeen?

What an Islamophobe.

re: #44 Kenneth

Indeed. Of course, some of the media outlets are spinning this as though Rather somehow won - despite the fact that the bulk of his case was dismissed because even if you took the claims in a light most favorable to Rather, he didn't sustain the burden of proof.

Off-topic, but interesting to think about.

Charles,

When the Chinese crackdown on Tibet started, I wondered what their motivation was. They had to know that any crackdown months before the Olympics would be a huge media story . The Chinese communists are very calculating. They think out every angle before taking actions like these. They know the Games are a 'coming out party' for their nation onto the international stage. So why risk international boycott on such a high profile event? It has occurred to me that the mainland stock market has been going down dramatically, plus inflation (especially food prices) are rising while their economy is slowing. Maybe these facts are why the Chinese are cracking down on Tibet? Get their citizens mind's off the declining economy and get them focused on a outside threat? It explains why there have been credible media reports of Chinese soldiers secretly being filmed putting on the Tibetan monks robes and then stirring up trouble. This is just a theory of mine, but it makes sense. You may want your friends over at Pajamas Media to look into it.
Thanks
CDWT

re: #65 Angus Day

You're jesting right? Not one of them has ever been deported - we get to keep them all, and all of their wives and children on benefits.

Anything else is an infringement of their 'yuman rights' doncha know.

No, I found him.

7/7 hate preacher deported to Jamaica

A Jamaican-born Islamic cleric, who had a strong influence over one of the July 7 bombers, was extradited back to his home country today, four years after being convicted for inciting racial hatred in the UK.

Abdullah el-Faisal became the first person in more than a century to be convicted under the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act when he was found guilty of soliciting murder and causing racial hatred in 2003. At the time police admitted they did not know how many young, impressionable people he could have turned towards terrorism.

Three years later, the official Home Office narrative of the July 7 bombings recorded that el-Faisal's exhortations to violence had found a willing audience in Jermaine Lindsay, who killed himself and 26 others on an Underground train near King's Cross in the 2005.

Lindsay, also from Jamaica and also a convert to Islam, was found to have attended at least one lecture by el-Faisal and and to have listened to tapes of other sermons. During the preacher's trial, recordings were heard of him telling his audiences to kill Hindus, Jews and other non-Muslims like "cockroaches".

re: #15 alegrias

The prosecution said a computer memory stick on one of the men at his arrest listed the targeted flights. They were: United Airlines Flight 931 to San Francisco; UA959 to Chicago; UA925 to Washington; Air Canada 849 to Toronto; AC865 to Montreal; American Airlines 131 to New York and AA91 to Chicago.

I thought Canada was not a target because they were not in Iraq. So I guess we can scratch that off as a reason to pull out of Iraq.

re: #73 chicagodudewhotrades

When the Chinese crackdown on Tibet started, I wondered what their motivation was. They had to know that any crackdown months before the Olympics would be a huge media story .

So logic would tell you that the crackdown was a reaction to the Tibetans taking advantage of the Olympics.

Don't blame the reaction to the problem, blame the problem. I am not saying that the Tibetan movement is a problem, I'm just answering.

It was logical for the Tibetan to start protesting right before the Olympics.

I mean, every damn union in Israel, every year, strikes right before Passover, Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur, like effen clockwork.

It's to pressure the gov.

The Chinese aren't cracking down in a vacuum.

What a loser!

/how are you going to fight Jihad now Islamotard, smear [expletive deleted] on your cell walls?

re: #77 Killian Bundy

What a loser!

/how are you going to fight Jihad now Islamotard, smear [expletive deleted] on your cell walls?

That would have better results.

re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Blimey, I stand corrected, although he's probably returned by now...

re: #76 Ben Hur

You have a valid point

re: #75 MadJadBad

I thought Canada was not a target because they were not in Iraq. So I guess we can scratch that off as a reason to pull out of Iraq.

And it's kinda hard to see how anyone would think Canada is 'their land' ....

Curious biographical trivia:

Upon promotion to lieutenant colonel, Petraeus moved from the office of the Chief of Staff to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, where he commanded the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)'s 3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment from 1991–1993. As battalion commander of the Iron Rakkasans, he suffered one of the more dramatic incidents in his career when, in 1991, he was accidentally shot in the chest during a live-fire exercise when a soldier tripped and his rifle discharged. He was taken to Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, Tennessee, where he was operated on by future U.S. Senator Bill Frist. The hospital released him early after he did fifty push ups without resting, just a few days after the accident.

re: #75 MadJadBad

Canada has been specifically mentioned in Al Qaeda messages as a legitimate target on account of the fact Canadian troops are in Afghanistan & our navy has ships in the Persian Gulf.

"... Umar Islam mocks complacent Brits: "Most of you too busy, you know, watching Home and Away and EastEnders, complaining about the World Cup, drinking your alcohol."

He's right there. The Brits haven't got a clue. They're so dumbed down by the above mentioned trivia that their awareness of the Islamic menace is zero. They don't care. They're tranquillised into imbecility and soft brained tolerance by the media...mind controlled brain washed dummies. Easy pickings for the Muslims who can see this fatal weakness in the collective consciousness, the loss of self belief, the descent into a plebian proletarian vacuum of bottomless narcissism and vulgar exhibitionism, the loss of core Judeo Christian values, the almost total loss of individual critical thinking. Cultural suicide in other words. Meanwhile, we have psychically marginal nobodies like this worm on the video jabbing his finger at the world...a born loser with a sorry hang dog spaniel face. If I got hold of him I'd spend many days torturing the bastard slowly and then lock him in a pig pen for awhile to bust his chances of an eternal erection in paradise. Oh..and then behead him.

I'd like to lock him in a pub filled with Arsenal fans and let him explain to them his positions on how he would blow up their mothers , wives and daughters.

ga head mate. the floor is yours

Brian Young, aka Umar Islam, converted a couple of years ago and married a Muslim woman.

I think we have another size five shoe guy here.

If a lot of these guys could be attractive to women without having to be given one on a silver platter, they would never become Muslims. IMHO.

re: #86 Catttt

I think we have another size five shoe guy here.

and no doubt a soft shoe as well

something about his mouth, his lips that suggests an IQ of less than 80. Which makes him a bona fide retard like the 17% of men in the ME...that makes around 180 million. Scary. Mass retardation as a result of centuries of incest and Koranic mind numbing.

Looks like a buddy of Ali G's!

Respec !

re: #85 Shug

Isn't Arsenal itself abjectly dhimmified and in the hands of those glossy and fake Westerner friendly Mohammedans, the United Arab Emirates?

he doesn't look retarded at all . . .

"We love to die in the path of Allah. We love to die like you love life, so you cannot win," Islam said.

So, if the jihadis all die, they win, and we lose?

I can get with that.

Dude said that this will continue (mass killings) until we leave their lands. Where is he filming this from? Isn't he in England?

How about you freaks leaving "our" lands first. But this poor sap wouldn't last a minute in the desert countries his people invaded and stole from the Christians.

Mental Midgetdom at its best!

re: #88 kuffarharbi

something about his mouth, his lips that suggests an IQ of less than 80. Which makes him a bona fide retard like the 17% of men in the ME...that makes around 180 million. Scary. Mass retardation as a result of centuries of incest and Koranic mind numbing.

That's offensive to the mentally disabled people of the world. I hate it when people diss the mentally disabled by comparing them with jerks like this guy.

Also, he is not from the Middle East. He's from Buckinghamshire. His parents are from Saint Vincent.

And then they plead non guilty, the liars that they are. You terrorists have a nice faith there -- I think after a few years into your 40 year prison sentence, the lies you were led to believe will show themselves in a great irony. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when these savages are thrown in jail for life. Allah akbar won't mean much then, now will it?

re: #33 Ben Hur

I'd give you a hundred up-dings for that one, if I could.

The britishers deserve all they are getting, and more.

I don't wish it on them, but they deserve it.

'Their chickenssssss are coooooommmming hommmmmme, to roooossssssst.'

Due process is wasted on these guys. I bet the combined tax returns of every Muslim man between 18 and 35 in England wouldn't add up to a million dollars. Deport them all to Yemen or Qatar and be done with it all.

re: #94 Catttt

That's offensive to the mentally disabled people of the world. I hate it when people diss the mentally disabled by comparing them with jerks like this guy.

Also, he is not from the Middle East. He's from Buckinghamshire. His parents are from Saint Vincent.

I don't give a toss where he's from. He's a retard and wouldn't look out of place in the Middle East. And I'm not dissing anyone disabled. I'm talking IQ measurement, a low score of which is rampant in the Muslim world.

Bet he's on the dole, like any good jihadi.

re: #99 Ward Cleaver

Bet he's on the dole, like any good jihadi.

Of course, hard to hold a steady job when you've got bombing to plan

Oh I get his problem...he's insecure about his overbite...makes him look "Freddy Mercury" gay.

re: #98 kuffarharbi

I don't give a toss where he's from. He's a retard and wouldn't look out of place in the Middle East. And I'm not dissing anyone disabled. I'm talking IQ measurement, a low score of which is rampant in the Muslim world.

You sound pretty darn lowbrow yourself, toots, to be dissing millions of people for IQ levels to insult one guy. Also, links on those IQ scores? Info on the heritability of IQ? Links on societal influences? Links specific to this particular guy?

This guy sounds British, but he describes the Middle East as "our lands". How is it any more his land than it is that of the British soldiers? Anyhow, Judea is the and of the Jews.

Did someone make the British Dental Care joke yet? Am I too late?

re: #104 Diamond Bullet

Did someone make the British Dental Care joke yet? Am I too late?

Lol. No, but you're right - his teeth are distractng.

re: #102 Catttt

You sound pretty darn lowbrow yourself, toots, to be dissing millions of people for IQ levels to insult one guy. Also, links on those IQ scores? Info on the heritability of IQ? Links on societal influences? Links specific to this particular guy?

What is this? A university seminar? You sound like some kind of self righteous academic snob mate. Do you think I'm gonna waste my time providing you with the links you request just to satisfy your pomposity. I could but i really can't be bothered. You sound like a cross between Ken Livingstone and Chomsky.

re: #103 T123

This guy sounds British, but he describes the Middle East as "our lands". How is it any more his land than it is that of the British soldiers? Anyhow, Judea is the and of the Jews.

I think they said he's from Jamaica.

He should have stayed there, opened up a boogie board concession on the beach, and then hang out with chicks in bikinis and smoke weed all day.

What a loser.

.

re: #106 kuffarharbi

What is this? A university seminar? You sound like some kind of self righteous academic snob mate. Do you think I'm gonna waste my time providing you with the links you request just to satisfy your pomposity. I could but i really can't be bothered. You sound like a cross between Ken Livingstone and Chomsky.

Lol.

I see you're fairly new here "mate." This is a tough room. Put up or shut up.

Feel free to post links on how consanguineous marriages lead to birth defects or that developmental disabilities are a huge problem in the Middle East. Just don't expect a pass for quoting stats without any links or for using stats to make blanket statements not only about people in the Middle East but also about a guy with a non-Arab, non-Muslim, non-Middle Eastern family origin.

re: #85 Shug

I'd like to lock him in a pub filled with Arsenal fans and let him explain to them his positions on how he would blow up their mothers , wives and daughters.

ga head mate. the floor is yours

Arsenal's not the most appropriate team...don't forget even Bin Laden himself visited Highbury in the early 90's, though Arsenal did officially ban him in 2001. What's Highbury called now? The Emirates Stadium...

re: #106 kuffarharbi

Derbyshire has lots of data, and links to data, on geographic variations in IQ.

He's a bit of a biological reductionist, but these global IQ variations do seem to correlate with per capita income and gdp/person, etc.

The data is readily obtainable.

I don't recall the data for the mid east, but it turns out that a significant proportion of the african population would register as borderline deficient for the western world.

re: #108 Catttt

Lol.

I see you're fairly new here "mate." This is a tough room. Put up or shut up.

Feel free to post links on how consanguineous marriages lead to birth defects or that developmental disabilities are a huge problem in the Middle East. Just don't expect a pass for quoting stats without any links or for using stats to make blanket statements not only about people in the Middle East but also about a guy with a non-Arab, non-Muslim, non-Middle Eastern family origin.

Don't pride yourself so much....mate. Now you sound like some tough guy in a two-bit fight club in a bad part of town. Pathetic. It's not tough in here. It's just a goddam chat room. What's your IQ score anyway? I'm worried.

Oh ok---and he's a non-Arab, non-Muslim, non-Middle Eastern retard. Feel better?

re: #51 godfrey

I'm asking because some people say that insisting that this kid is reading the Koran rightly only serves to increase the stature of Wahabbists as normative.

Given the contents of the Koran, hadith, and sura, what isn't normative about Wahabbists? Koranic literalism has always been the normative standard of Koranic interpretation.

A polished addition to the ongoing dialogue. Obama should give this Wrighteous dude a post.

It's hard to get good terrologists these days.

I wonder if he bought his black and white "peace scarf" at Urban Outfitters?

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Do they just pick a bunch of Arab names and pull them out of a hat when they convert?

I've always wondered about this also. Christian converts don't call themselves "John Baptist Christ" and Jews don't call themselves "Moses Shammai Hillel". Why do all the Muslim converts call themselves those weird combinations? Why not just "Muhammed Unit #45, etc." if that is the only point?

re: #107 Dad O' Blondes

I think they said he's from Jamaica.

He should have stayed there, opened up a boogie board concession on the beach, and then hang out with chicks in bikinis and smoke weed all day.

What a loser.

.

Sounds tempting.

I obviously have wasted my life away.

Soooooo... how did that work out for ya, guy? heh

re: #117 Daybrother

I would bet there is a fair amount of one-upmanship, as to who comes up with the cooler or more 'significan' arabic name.

'The guy I'm named after killed 1000 infidels!'

'Oh yeah? The guy I'm named for killed 10,000, half of them Jews in old Medina!'

'No shit? Respec, man!'

What I want to know is why these guys are always (1) ugly and (2) retarded-looking.
This guy seemed to have trouble reading the script.
Maybe it's all the intermarriage between first cousins...

A bomb doesn't need to be smart. It just needs crazy sploding skilz.

Nice hat - what do you call that? The Dick-Head? Makes him look circumcised.

re: #67 calcajun
Interesting...the same thing could be said for the southwest U.S.

La Raza (and Absolut) think that's what will happen!

re: #111 kuffarharbi

Don't pride yourself so much....mate. Now you sound like some tough guy in a two-bit fight club in a bad part of town. Pathetic. It's not tough in here. It's just a goddam chat room. What's your IQ score anyway? I'm worried.

You are so clueless. "LGF - a tough room" is quoted all the time here. It's one of the revolving headlines.

And I'm just I - not claiming to be anything. You are inferring. Oh - and I'm female. Mate.

My IQ is 154. You asked.

re: #117 Daybrother

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Do they just pick a bunch of Arab names and pull them out of a hat when they convert?

I've always wondered about this also. Christian converts don't call themselves "John Baptist Christ" and Jews don't call themselves "Moses Shammai Hillel". Why do all the Muslim converts call themselves those weird combinations? Why not just "Muhammed Unit #45, etc." if that is the only point?

Islam is as much a vehicle for Arab cultural supremacy and the destruction of indigenous culture as it is for religious supremacy. Name changes are also a well-known part of cult psychological conditioning.

You are ALL very naughty posters. In the UK we can ONLY talk about this by using the word 'alleged' in front of any signifigant statement.

This is an 'alleged suicide video' where it is alleged he is making a farewell speech about how he allegedly hates non-Msulims (esp Americans, Brits & Jews) and how he is allegedly going to carry out martyrdom operations, allegedly, against a number of flights to The USA (which allegedly appear on a list).

Most of them were filmed appearing in suicide/martyrdom videos, allegedly. The police also bugged them and heard all the discussions about allegedly making explosives from liquids, allegedly

They plead not guilty. The videos were simply entries in an Iranian contest called Martyrdom Star. They didn't really believe those explosives would work so they made joke ones to catch out airport security. They were really working for an Israeli security firm. They don't actually like each other much and so when it came to attend a martyrdom festival in The USA it was natural to use different flights but all taking-off at similar times.

Its ALL a hoax and I'll be shocked if they aren't released and paid millions in compensation.

You see, we're like that in Britain. "Want my wife? Here she's yours!", "Want my car. Hey I don't need it for a few hours". We're easy going and just because MOST Muslims aren't in this trial it would be stupid to suggest there were similar cells like the one(s) on trial. BTW - we can't call them Islamic Terrorists. They are "criminals" and when they use words like "Allah" or say that its their "Islamic duty to be martyrs" then they aren't following true Islam and they aren't Muslims.

I'm off for a holiday to the States. Anyone offer me asylum?

(Yes, a wind-up!)

This guy needs to take the diaper off his head and come to reality. I think this video would make a nice "This is your brain on drugs" documentary. I'm trying to figure out how people as laid back as Jamaicans can suddnely find themselves in this deathcult. Here in Turkey, alot of the really religious ppl still smoke alot of weed and hash but they refuse to touch alcohol. Do you think there's a connection?

Meanwhile you have Queen Rania of Jordan telling us we don't understand how wonderful arab people are...

Queen Rania

I'd like to see walk the streets of Saudi Arabia the way she looks on this video. I must say, she is hot.

re: #129 So?

Meanwhile you have Queen Rania of Jordan telling us we don't understand how wonderful arab people are...

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Queen Rania

I'd like to see walk the streets of Saudi Arabia the way she looks on this video. I must say, she is hot.

She is the exception that proves the rule.

She is a far cry indeed from your typical 3 toothed palestinian crone, ululating and handing out sweets after a successful suicide bombing.

The midget 'king' of 75% of the palestine mandate certainly knows how to pick 'em.

It's good to be the king.

re: #128 baconeatingkaffir

Absolutely there is a connection.

Islam is like communism - it's all about replacing ethics with rules (that is, there's no objective concepts of things like right and wrong, just what old mo did and didn't allow, and since he obviously didnt know about weed, it's not banned).

So, you can't drink alcohol, but you can smoke weed, shoot up (Iran has a huge heroin problem, I believe), not because one is better, or less harmful, than another, but because there isn't a rule about one, there is about the other...

We love to die in the path of Allah. We love to die like you love life, so you cannot win

Uh, sorry, but your reasoning is a little faulty there. You love to die, ergo,

stop complaining when we kill you
stop complaining when the IDF kill yous
If you love to die and we love to live, then by definition we will win, and if you don't understand that...

Nevermind

re: #125 Catttt

You are so clueless. "LGF - a tough room" is quoted all the time here. It's one of the revolving headlines.

And I'm just I - not claiming to be anything. You are inferring. Oh - and I'm female. Mate.

My IQ is 154. You asked.

154...I'm impressed. But not cowered, intimidated or scared I'm afraid. I had an inkling you were a woman....something to do with your misplaced empathy for all those millions of retards in the ME and the denial of their collective backwardness. Add to that a completely gratuitous moral self righteousness, castigating me for supposedly insulting disabled people. This seeking out of 'political incorrectness' so you can jump on it with a fervent holier-than-thou judgement is something I've come across in morally equivalent females.

re: #127 maven

Denial is a river in London.

He's a terrible orator and something tells me he really doesn't believe in that cause because he's so terribly spoken. It seems to me like he's just doing it for group approval and to fit in.

re: #135 jordash1212

He's a terrible orator and something tells me he really doesn't believe in that cause because he's so terribly spoken. It seems to me like he's just doing it for group approval and to fit in.

Think you just nailed it there. He's so insecure that he's functioning under group pressure. At this stage the group is all he's got. A very dangerous state of mind that can perpetrate anything in order not to be rejected by other group members. It's a familiar syndrome when atrocities occur. The need to belong to the group is so intense, so driven by the fear of being nothing and nobody, an outsider, in the wilderness, that he'll do anything to avoid being without it. All the ideology is secondary.

But, if he left a suicide video, why don't the Brits assist him and fulfill his wishes?

A depressing DVD ("Fried Green Tomatoes" with Arabic subtitles) and a bathrobe belt "accidentally" left in his cell, and no guard in the area for a few hours.

Then they can find him hanging, and be shocked, shocked!

martyrdom is his way of ennobling his own self murder. At the end of the day he's just another sorry loser whose life is meaningless and empty. He hasn't got the courage to commit suicide without a cause to die for. He refuses loneliness and thus never learns.

re: #133 kuffarharbi

Eaaaaasy, partner. We're all on the same side in here.

I can take 3 seconds of that asinine finger waving. *click*

funny how you never see their Imams killing themselves for their cause.

He's wearing a Bear Bryant hat. Weird.

Fucking paki **** - why can't they execute him?