Goddammit.

Bad Craziness.

It's like we knew from the first, the MSM is in bed with the enemy.

Shouldn't the article would be titled something like "No Peace with Sons of Pigs and Monkeys"
or "Why the Joooos are Preventing Peace"

They can't help it. They are Journalism majors. That makes them unfit for every other line of work.

THE HAMAS CHARTER

Hamas 101

Any article that opens with:

President Jimmy Carter's sensible plan to visit the Hamas leadership this week brings honesty and pragmatism to the Middle East....

has got to be crap.

I think of them as fathers everywhere, even in Israel, think of their sons -- as innocent boys, as curious students, as young men with limitless potential -- not as "gunmen" or "militants." But better that they were defenders of their people than parties to their ultimate dispossession; better that they were active in the Palestinian struggle for survival than passive witnesses to our subjugation.

Yeah, better that they became suicide bombers than actually use the billions of dollars in aid that goes to you to build basic infrastructure.

History teaches us that everything is in flux. Our fight to redress the material crimes of 1948 is scarcely begun, and adversity has taught us patience. As for the Israeli state and its Spartan culture of permanent war, it is all too vulnerable to time, fatigue and demographics: In the end, it is always a question of our children and those who come after us.

A little history tip for you: Sparta still drove the Persians out.

They confuse 'revealing' with 'promoting'.

the WAPO is doing what it can to get more subscribers. I understand if you get a subscription, they let you write an OP-Ed

Maybe it's a typo- "No, peace without hamas" is much closer to the truth.

See my spinoff link.

Washington Post Editorial explanation.

Today we published an article by the "foreign minister" of Hamas, Mahmoud al-Zahar, that drips with hatred for Israel, and with praise for former president Jimmy Carter. We believe Mr. Zahar's words are worth publishing because they provide some clarity about the group he helps to lead, a group that Mr. Carter contends is worthy of being included in the Middle East peace process.
Mr. Zahar lauds Mr. Carter for the "welcome tonic" of saying that no peace process can succeed "unless we are sitting at the negotiating table and without any preconditions." Yet Mr. Zahar has his own preconditions: Before any peace process can "take even its first tiny step," he says, Israel must withdraw to the 1967 borders and evacuate Jerusalem while preparing for the "return of millions of refugees." In fact, as Mr. Zahar makes clear, Hamas is not at all interested in a negotiated peace with the Jewish state, whose existence it refuses to accept: "Our fight to redress the material crimes of 1948 is scarcely begun," he concludes.
Hamas is "perfectly willing" for Mahmoud Abbas "to represent them in all direct negotiations with the Israelis, and they also maintain that they will accept any agreement that he brokers with the Israelis" provided a referendum is held on it, says Mr. Abbas. Compare that claim with Mr. Zahar's own words. In fact, Mr. Zahar has called Mr. Abbas "a traitor" for negotiating with Israel - a label that is, in the Palestinian context, an incitement to murder.
Mr. Carter justifies his meetings with familiar arguments about the value of dialogue with enemies. But he misses the point. Contacts between enemies can be useful: Israel is legendary for such negotiations, and even now it is engaged in back-channel bargaining with Hamas through Egypt. But it is one thing to communicate pragmatically, and quite another to publicly and unconditionally grant recognition and political sanction to a leader or a group that advocates terrorism, mass murder or the extinction of another state. That is what Mr. Carter is doing.

re: #10 madisonsfriend

the WAPO is doing what it can to get more subscribers. I understand if you get a subscription, they let you write an OP-Ed

I wish that I was a subscriber to the WAPO, so I could cancel it and tell them why.

I got a kick out of this one:

Are Americans unusually stupid, or is it something our president put in the water? As millions surrender their homes and sacrifice other standards of our nation's economic and political reputation to the caprice of the Bush-Cheney imperium, a majority of voters tell pollsters that they might vote for a candidate who promises more of the same.

/if you don't vote for Obama, you must be stupid..

Another unrepentant, genocidal terrorist is given op-ed column space in the Washington Post.

/well, Obama might be the next President, hedging their bets

Washington COMpost... unfit for bird cage lining.

What the Hell is Wrong with the Washington Post?

To ask the question is to answer it. Babba?

Thanks to the net, the libs have been fully exposed (and there's not much to see...heh). Gads, all these years I had thought that they were a bit sharper. Not bright, but at least of average reasoning ability. Guess I was wrong.

re: #1 laZardo

Goddammit.

He does. And He will.

So if they get bombarded with Letters to Editor, do you think they would actually run them in that rag?

It's all about Moral Equivalency folks...

re: #17 Peacekeeper

What the Hell is Wrong with the Washington Post?

To ask the question is to answer it. Babba?

WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!

re: #21 BabbaZee

WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!

YESS!

re: #12 Ben Hur

But it is one thing to communicate pragmatically, and quite another to publicly and unconditionally grant recognition and political sanction to a leader or a group that advocates terrorism, mass murder or the extinction of another state. That is what Mr. Carter is doing.

Uh- what about giving a political soap box to a leader that advocates terrorism, mass murder or the extinction of another state? That is what the wapo is doing.

re: #22 Peacekeeper

YESS!

re: #20 tfc3rid

So if they get bombarded with Letters to Editor, do you think they would actually run them in that rag?

It's all about Moral Equivalency folks...

Not if I write to them- but if you write a letter supporting the Op-Ed in question- it will be published.

The msm (wapo included) will get theirs one day soon, when 'their chickens come home to roost'.

Falling subscriptions and falling viewers because of just such tripe as this.

Sixty-five years ago, the courageous Jews of the Warsaw ghetto rose in defense of their people.

Mr. Kaczy%u0144ski, any comment?

Can any terrorist goof around with Polish history these days?

AP staging a photo yesterday:

[Link: www.snappedshot.com...]

Political reality or history?

/hmm?

re: #27 Sacred Plants

Sixty-five years ago, the courageous Jews of the Warsaw ghetto rose in defense of their people.

"A "peace process" with Palestinians cannot take even its first tiny step until Israel first withdraws to the borders of 1967; dismantles all settlements; removes all soldiers from Gaza and the West Bank; repudiates its illegal annexation of Jerusalem; releases all prisoners; and ends its blockade of our international borders, our coastline and our airspace permanently. This would provide the starting point for just negotiations and would lay the groundwork for the return of millions of refugees. Given what we have lost, it is the only basis by which we can start to be whole again."
Is he friggin' kidding me? ANYONE - please tell me the last time a victor in a war initiated by others was required to give back land it had conquered and taken away from the aggressors?
And not ONE fucking comment by this "surgeon" about the daily rocket attacks on Israeli civilians by the poor Palestinians.
He's not deluded, nor a fool - he's a cunning, cowardly man, for rather than blaming Egypt and Jordan for the mess the Pali's got into, or the Pali's for continuing that mess (see, e.g. the wonderful greenhouses purchased by Bill Gates and GIVEN to the Pali's for free, which the Pali's proceeded to deliberately destroy.
That the WaPo allows this scum the newspaper space to perpetuate the lies and myths of the Palestinians is just one more example of how the MSM has become nearly totally irrelevant to life today.

re: #21 BabbaZee

COMMUNISLAMIST GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!

/new and improv'd

c-o-l-l-a-b-o-r-a-t-i-o-n

They still have Krauthammer. The ComPost grows one good thing.

re: #33 laZardo

no no no

COMMISLAMIST

Soon they will go the way of the DoDo

As for the Israeli state and its Spartan culture of permanent war

Rrrrriiight, as opposed to the Palestinian, and specifically Hamas culture, which is of course noted for its enormous contributions to the arts and sciences.

re: #12 Ben Hur

Thanks for linking to this. I think it's fairly important to point out that, although the Post published this piece, it criticizes it directly and harshly and criticizes Carter as well. To say that the Post endorses Hamas is a clear misrepresentation of what appeared in the paper.

re: #37 Shug

Soon they will go the way of the DoDo

You mean the bird, I thought you meant the stuff dogs leave behind.

re: #12 Ben Hur

See my spinoff link.

Mr. Zahar lauds Mr. Carter for the "welcome tonic" of saying that no peace process can succeed "unless we are sitting at the negotiating table and without any preconditions." Yet Mr. Zahar has his own preconditions: Before any peace process can "take even its first tiny step," he says, Israel must withdraw to the 1967 borders and evacuate Jerusalem while preparing for the "return of millions of refugees." In fact, as Mr. Zahar makes clear, Hamas is not at all interested in a negotiated peace with the Jewish state, whose existence it refuses to accept: "Our fight to redress the material crimes of 1948 is scarcely begun," he concludes.

In other words, "No peace without Hamas" means "the end of Israel".
The WaPo has shown they lie with Stan.

re: #40 madisonsfriend

You mean the bird, I thought you meant the stuff dogs leave behind.

they are currently doo doo.

and soon they will follow the dodo into extinction

#16 Washington COMpost... unfit for bird cage lining.

You're my daddy!

Oh, yee of 60% evilness.

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

What is the Washington Posts stupidity/evil ratio?

10,000/10,000

I am telling you the truth...
The days of torches and pitchforks approacheth!

re: #25 madisonsfriend

Then wage a "reverse jihad" upon them? May our letters feast upon their...uh...computer screens?

OT: Ricin suspect arrested after release from Vegas hospital

Both the WaPo and the NYT have always acted as the semi-official mouthpiece of the State Dept. What you see happening is State's attempt to legitimize Hamas as well as Islamic Jihad. Jimmy Carter, despite the State department denial, is working with the blessing of Sec of State Rice.
Keep in mind that Carter received an official briefing from David Welch prior to leaving on his Support Islamic Terrorism Tour, 2008.

re: #45 VegasRick

10,000/10,000

That's still only 1-to-1.

/maybe up that numerator a little...

re: #24 BabbaZee

I saw that link, and I thought, "Oh Lord she's found a Yes track". fast work.

re: #39 JustMyView

Thanks for linking to this. I think it's fairly important to point out that, although the Post published this piece, it criticizes it directly and harshly and criticizes Carter as well. To say that the Post endorses Hamas is a clear misrepresentation of what appeared in the paper.

You have just exceeded the speed of stupid and evil.

re: #27 Sacred Plants

No planet is free as long as its most advanced form of animal life attempts to eliminate its most advanced form of plant life

.

/so, you're a pothead?

re: #38 Occasional Reader

Rrrrriiight, as opposed to the Palestinian, and specifically Hamas culture, which is of course noted for its enormous contributions to the arts and sciences.

Sure they contribute to art and science - the science of bomb-making and the art of splattered blood.

re: #35 chinesearithmetic

Well, and George Will - but that's no reason to keep them afloat. It's not like Krauthammer and Will won't find other work.

Other than the great George Will, the WaPo has been nothing but left-wing bilge for decades.

It's also the toilet paper that gave the world Woodward & Bernstein, the 1st celebrity journalists... and journalism would never recover. Every gumshoe or frustrated would-be novelist wanted to become an activist-journalist ever-afterward.

Rathergate, Fauxtography, Jayson Blair... it's all the legacy of the WaPo & the advent of celebrity journalists with Woodward & Bernstein...just another partisan engine of the Left.

re: #53 Killian Bundy

It ain't me, LOL

re: #54 Kosh's Shadow

Sure they contribute to art and science - the science of bomb-making and the art of splattered blood.

And to think they might be able to get a government grant for that.

re: #56 buzzsawmonkey

Everyone needs to listen to this and read the book

re: #12 Ben Hur Ben - well that'll teach me to mouth off in public without knowing all the facts - won't stop me, of course, but it'll teach me. I just didn't think that there'd be a spinoff link to this very topic, posted so quickly.
I have reported your comment #12 in the hope that Charles will do an update.
However, I also have to say that the editorial still doesn't excuse the WaPo's giving this terrorist thug,
(surgeon my ass) room in it's Op-Ed page.

re: #38 Occasional Reader

Rrrrriiight, as opposed to the Palestinian, and specifically Hamas culture, which is of course noted for its enormous contributions to the arts and sciences.

Well, I have visited Israel a number of times- last year most recentlyand they do not have a spartan culture of war. the Palis -being a new group and living in self- created chaos and squalor have no culture.

re: #55 Jonn Lilyea

Well, and George Will - but that's no reason to keep them afloat. It's not like Krauthammer and Will won't find other work.

They have other work as well. Their columns are seen in many papers, and both are on TV.

re: #19 BabbaZee

I'd think it's more likely that I'll have to relabel my maps with "Palestine (Syria-Iran Administration)" soon...

re: #39 JustMyView

Thanks for linking to this. I think it's fairly important to point out that, although the Post published this piece, it criticizes it directly and harshly and criticizes Carter as well. To say that the Post endorses Hamas is a clear misrepresentation of what appeared in the paper.

It should have been incorperated into the article or the article should not have been published at all.

re: #56 buzzsawmonkey

it will be giving that away also,

[BLINK]

re: #39 JustMyView

Thanks for linking to this. I think it's fairly important to point out that, although the Post published this piece, it criticizes it directly and harshly and criticizes Carter as well. To say that the Post endorses Hamas is a clear misrepresentation of what appeared in the paper.

Right. And how many times is the Washington Post going to use that lame excuse? They've published op-eds by Yasser Arafat, Khaled Meshaal, CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the spiritual leader of Hizballah, Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah.

I'm sure they were just trying to show us all how bad these people are.

re: #64 laZardo

I'd think it's more likely that I'll have to relabel my maps with "Palestine (Syria-Iran Administration)" soon...

You are actively rooting for your enemy.

re: #47 laZardo

Then wage a "reverse jihad" upon them? May our letters feast upon their...uh...computer screens?

Please more dahij esrever!

re: #57 firebreather

Other than the great George Will, the WaPo has been nothing but left-wing bilge for decades.

It's also the toilet paper that gave the world Woodward & Bernstein, the 1st celebrity journalists... and journalism would never recover. Every gumshoe or frustrated would-be novelist wanted to become an activist-journalist ever-afterward.

Rathergate, Fauxtography, Jayson Blair... it's all the legacy of the WaPo & the advent of celebrity journalists with Woodward & Bernstein...just another partisan engine of the Left.

Who was the WAPO writer who lied about some child in the ghetto? Didn't she get a Pulitzer for her lies?

re: #58 BabbaZee

It ain't me, LOL

It was a question, not meant to be disparaging.

/ever wake up in a strange attic before?

re: #20 tfc3rid Um, my friend, please see Ben-Hurs comment #12 above.

Why the outrage? This editorial sounds a lot like it could have been written by any of the Obama-crowd. /We should get used to it.

re: #68 BabbaZee

More like I'm just being cynical, slothful and mean. I don't put much "faith" (as it were) in the power of reason over...shall we say... "fervor."

re: #67 Charles

Seems to me the Post is playing the Libs favorite game of 'Everybody Deserves a Chance to be Heard'

re: #71 Killian Bundy

It was a question, not meant to be disparaging.

/ever wake up in a strange attic before?

Oh I know that I was just teasing

and
LOL.....

matter of fact, yes.

re: #68 BabbaZee

re: #64 laZardo

I'd think it's more likely that I'll have to relabel my maps with "Palestine (Syria-Iran Administration)" soon...

You are actively rooting for your enemy.

I hate to say it, but since Hamas is in charge of "Palestine", it is under Syria-Iran Administration.

Our movement fights on because we cannot allow the foundational crime at the core of the Jewish state -- the violent expulsion from our lands and villages that made us refugees -- to slip out of world consciousness

= Israel must be destroyed.

I mean, who hasn't enjoyed an evening of catching the latest Palestinian opera, then downloading a copy of the event for posterity on a cutting-edge, Palestinian-designed PDA web browser? Not to mention all that life-saving medical technology at your local hospital that was invented by Palestinians.

Indeed, it's difficult to imagine the modern world at all, without the incredible contributions of the Palestinians.

/need I?

re: #74 laZardo

More like I'm just being cynical, slothful and mean. I don't put much "faith" (as it were) in the power of reason over...shall we say... "fervor."

Yes I know all about you so smartness LOL

You'll get over it.

I truly believe we can achieve a lasting peace with Hamas.

Once they are all dead, that is.

re: #77 Honorary Yooper

ya got a point

re: #72 realwest

Um, my friend, please see Ben-Hurs comment #12 above.

Wow... did hell freeze over?

re: #70 madisonsfriend

Good question... so many Pulitzers have been handed out for so many MSM lies, I've lost track.

Pulitzers are kind of like Nobel Prizes in that respect. You have to be a terrorist or a paranoid psychotic to win a Nobel... and you have to be a world-class fabricator/distorter/plagiarist to win a Pulitzer.

Carter's meetings prove America and Israel are moral and humanitarian countries. At the time of his meetings, both countries knew/will know the exact GPS coordinates of terrorists Mahmoud Zahar and Khaled Meshal. We could easily kill both of them, but because Carter is in the room raising the global warming of both locations with his hot air, we sit on our hands out of respect for a fellow American--no matter how idiotic and anti-Jewish Carter is (not to even mention the other two demons!)

Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.

re: #73 Golem Akbar

/We should get used to it.

NEVER !

re: #80 BabbaZee

Well, it is 11:30 PM and I have to get to sleep soon. LOL.

Yuck!

What's next? Excerpts from Mein Kampf tomorrow and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion for Saturday?

re: #86 Peacekeeper

Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.

However, service is notoriously slow at this joint.

re: #72 realwest

Well, the Post won't print my letters and the Ombudsman doesn't reply

re: #89 gman

Yuck!

What's next? Excerpts from Mein Kampf tomorrow and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion for Saturday?

No, that's the Sunday supplimental special section.

re: #83 tfc3rid

Wow... did hell freeze over?

They were hoping to save the last 3 conservative Jews that still subscribe.

re: #89 gman

Yuck!

What's next? Excerpts from Mein Kampf tomorrow and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion for Saturday?

Yes, but WaPo will be publishing them just to show how, like, really really bad they are.

/

Some time ago the Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece about how deceptive the practice of journalistic "fairness was." They were focusing on economics and the way in which public opinion on the economy was almost universally wrong. The reason was that while the vast majority of economists take a pretty optimistic view of economic growth, the media feels it necessary to give equal time to the opposing view regardless of how marginal it might be. The result is that the reasonable consensus and the groundless outliers are presented as of equal worth; in the case of the economy, a 90/10 split is represented as 50/50. This gives opinions that really aren't worth taking serious credence with the general public.

WaPo is doing the same thing, but here it is not factual accuracy that is in doubt (though that is certainly an issue) but moral worth. The words of terrorists and dictators are not on par with those of democratically elected leaders. But by granting them equal time -- all in the interest of "fairness", I would assume -- WaPo grants them political legitimacy and suggests that their lies have the same epistemic value as the statements of leaders of democracies.

This "fairness" and "balance" provides a disservice to democracy by suggesting that it is no better than dictatorships/terrorist entities when it comes to providing an honest account of plans, motives, etc. Moreover, it grants their political aims, which are often contrary to established moral principles, as of equal validity.

"Fair" does not mean "equal time," any more than "fair" means everyone gets the same thing regardless of whether it's what they want or need. Oops, now I think I see the source of this kind of logic ...

re: #90 Occasional Reader

However, service is notoriously slow at this joint.

Different time scale involved.

/BTW Ganesh will stomp your heathen arse.

re: #88 laZardo

Well, it is 11:30 PM and I have to get to sleep soon. LOL.

What happened to your avatar?

re: #67 Charles

I'm sure they were just trying to show us all how bad these people are.

The Post is hardly their only platform. They could say the same thing anywhere. Better to have them publish and be contradicted than to publish someplace else where they could speak without the immediate--indeed, simultaneous--pushback.

re: #90 Occasional Reader

LOL!

/Waiting on the Lord is the hardest part of obedience.
/he is a JIT God

Democrat Pres Jimmy Carter rehabilitation ... The dumbest president ever known to America, needs help for his legacy.

Here's the piece they should have run with:

Jimmy Carter: Granting Legitimacy to Rejection of the Entire Oslo Process - Michael Young

To many engagers the problem is mainly one of communication. If only everyone could just sit around a table and talk, things would work out. You can almost hear Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal gasping at the naivete of such sweeping positivism, as he prepares to score points off his solemn American visitor. Meshaal knows the snag is hardly one of miscommunication. It makes no sense today to damage Abbas by opening a channel to Hamas, which has never endorsed the agreements reached with Israel during the Oslo years. In fact, to bring Hamas into negotiations would only grant legitimacy to the movement's rejection of those agreements, and of the entire Oslo process.
There is also a valid case to be made that Hamas is not interested in a peace treaty with Israel, because its ultimate ambition is to liberate the whole of Palestine. Certainly, that's what the movement demonstrates day in and day out. Peace may be a long way away between Palestinians and Israelis, but Carter won't speed things up any by turning into Meshaal's patsy. (Daily Star-Lebanon)

How much did their readership decline this year?

So we are supposed to read how bad we are to the environment, meanwhile they chop down a forest to do so,

what a bunch of assholes.

Step 1: Yes, the terrorists are evil, but they're a tiny minority. Let's listen to what the rest, non-terrorists, have to say.

Step 2: Yes, the terrorists are evil, but let's at least listen to what the terrorists have to say.

Step 3: Yes, these groups have done some bad things, but haven't we all? Let's listen to what they have to say.

Step 4: The glorious freedom fighters are right! We should all listen to what they have to say.

WaPo is on Step 3, and apologists are saying they're on Step 2. I say we don't go down this path at all.

Their words and actions are clear. They've been offered 98% of what they say they want and refused. They don't want a state; they want death. Ours, their own, anybody's: as long as it is death.

re: #98 JustMyView

The Post is hardly their only platform. They could say the same thing anywhere. Better to have them publish and be contradicted than to publish someplace else where they could speak without the immediate--indeed, simultaneous--pushback.

Are you fucking kidding or what?

The Media Are the Enemy.

re: #100 bill-tb

Democrat Pres Jimmy Carter rehabilitation ... The dumbest president ever known to America, needs help for his legacy.

Heh. Jimmy Carter, he makes James Buchanan look good, and that's a tough act to follow.

It is 3AM.... the phone rings....

who do you want to answer it?

How about this guy? He'll tell whoever called at 3AM to piss off.

Morning all! Are still clinging this fine day?

If they want to "reveal" something about Hamas, all they need to do is publish the Hamas Charter.

re: #52 BabbaZee Hey Babba - please check your e-mail!

re: #94 Occasional Reader

Yes, but WaPo will be publishing them just to show how, like, really really bad they are.

/

Yeah, and we also can't remember how really really bad Hitler was, so we need to have Mein Kampf published in the newspapers so we can actually see it with our own eyes.

/

re: #97 VegasRick

Hmmm? It's fine over here, I just used a really small file.

re: #76 BabbaZee

matter of fact, yes.

And Steve's daughter, with the elf ears, is so sweet and mellow.

/probably rivals him for net worth too

re: #109 Pastorius

If they want to "reveal" something about Hamas, all they need to do is publish the Hamas Charter.

But, but, but, that wouldn't be giving "equal time" for moral equivalence now, would it.

re: #98 JustMyView

The Post is hardly their only platform. They could say the same thing anywhere. Better to have them publish and be contradicted than to publish someplace else where they could speak without the immediate--indeed, simultaneous--pushback.

That is the ONLY good thing about this.

re: #112 laZardo

Oh, I think you might have meant my website in the (optional) section... For some reason it changes whenever I enter a spinoff link...

re: #103 Silhouette

Step 1: Yes, the terrorists are evil, but they're a tiny minority. Let's listen to what the rest, non-terrorists, have to say.

Step 2: Yes, the terrorists are evil, but let's at least listen to what the terrorists have to say.

Step 3: Yes, these groups have done some bad things, but haven't we all? Let's listen to what they have to say.

Step 4: The glorious freedom fighters are right! We should all listen to what they have to say.

WaPo is on Step 3, and apologists are saying they're on Step 2. I say we don't go down this path at all.

Their words and actions are clear. They've been offered 98% of what they say they want and refused. They don't want a state; they want death. Ours, their own, anybody's: as long as it is death.

Absolutely.

How many times do they have to break their "promises" and reveal their true desires before the folks at WaPo will finally stop granting them a platform to spew hatred? As you suggest, as long as they wallow in the moral relativism of self-righteous self-loathing, never.

re: #115 MandyManners

That is the ONLY good thing about this.

Well, not good. Maybe "redeeming" is the word I'm looking for.

re: #95 Lucius Septimius

Yep, and now get ready for the Orwellian "Fairness Doctrine" once Obama gets elected.

You know, Rush gets 15 minutes, then Rhandi Rhodes gets 15 minutes, then Achmadinejad gets 15 minutes, then Rosi O'Donnell gets 15 minutes, and so on.

But there's no Fairness Doctrine for allowing conservative viewpoints on university campuses, or in MSM newsrooms. It's a total Left-wing monopoly in those venues, totally insular, where all conservative thought is banished.

re: #99 BabbaZee

I might just copyright this one.

[patting self on back]
[ignoring PK, as usual]

re: #112 laZardo

Hmmm? It's fine over here, I just used a really small file.

I am getting the dreaded red X

But, but Hamas was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED... We HAVE to listen to them... They are a legitimate government...

re: #21 BabbaZee

This shit is wearing me down....

I digress

re: #105 Iron Fist

The Media Are the Enemy.

The MSM are the NME

re: #115 MandyManners

That is the ONLY good thing about this.

Like HAMAS is worried about media pushback. They murder people and the media doesn't push back.

Babba! Snuck in on an open registration last night, decided to shorten the name :)

No peace WITH Hamas still in existance!

Does anyone here know what the WAPO's STUPID/EVIL rating is?

re: #120 Occasional Reader

;~}

re: #123 Endangered in MASS

Endeavor to Persevere!

re: #124 BabbaZee

MSM = Moonbat Spin Machine

re: #122 tfc3rid

But, but Hamas was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED... We HAVE to listen to them... They are a legitimate government...

And they build schools, and day care centers, and that lovely Autobahn!

re: #122 tfc3rid

So was Hitler

/what the hell is a history book

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #120 Occasional Reader

I might just copyright this one.

[patting self on back]
[ignoring PK, as usual]

May the Flying Sphaghetti Monster wrap you in his tentacles of blessed indifference.

re: #126 BGB!

Babba! Snuck in on an open registration last night, decided to shorten the name :)

Hallelujah! Git down witcha bad self!

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

What is the Washington Posts stupidity/evil ratio?

I would be will to bet it's something like:
100%/120%

re: #133 Charles

[self deleted]

re: #132 pegcity

So was Hitler

/what the hell is a history book

Hitler?

Come on, he was misunderstood...

/Really?

re: #78 pat

Ummmm. I may not be the brightest bulb in the string, but I do seem to recall that it was Egypt, Syria and Jordanthat instigated this conflict. Or has that little fact been revised out of history?

re: #133 Charles

Color me surprised......

re: #95 Lucius Septimius

Some time ago the Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece about how deceptive the practice of journalistic "fairness was." They were focusing on economics and the way in which public opinion on the economy was almost universally wrong. The reason was that while the vast majority of economists take a pretty optimistic view of economic growth, the media feels it necessary to give equal time to the opposing view regardless of how marginal it might be. The result is that the reasonable consensus and the groundless outliers are presented as of equal worth; in the case of the economy, a 90/10 split is represented as 50/50. This gives opinions that really aren't worth taking serious credence with the general public.

WaPo is doing the same thing, but here it is not factual accuracy that is in doubt (though that is certainly an issue) but moral worth. The words of terrorists and dictators are not on par with those of democratically elected leaders. But by granting them equal time -- all in the interest of "fairness", I would assume -- WaPo grants them political legitimacy and suggests that their lies have the same epistemic value as the statements of leaders of democracies.

This "fairness" and "balance" provides a disservice to democracy by suggesting that it is no better than dictatorships/terrorist entities when it comes to providing an honest account of plans, motives, etc. Moreover, it grants their political aims, which are often contrary to established moral principles, as of equal validity.

"Fair" does not mean "equal time," any more than "fair" means everyone gets the same thing regardless of whether it's what they want or need. Oops, now I think I see the source of this kind of logic ...

Reminds me a bit of the so-called Fairness Doctrine in media political coverage that may be reborn if either of the two dems win the presidency.

Fuck you, WaPo.

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Did he cause the dead to rise and turn water into wine as well?

let them keep printing this crap, let carter keep making sweet love to hamas, all it does is help the republicans this upcoming election.

re: #98 JustMyView

The Post is hardly their only platform. They could say the same thing anywhere. Better to have them publish and be contradicted than to publish someplace else where they could speak without the immediate--indeed, simultaneous--pushback.

It's hardly a contradiction- it's more of a CYA statement.

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

From your link:

"Arafat's Dream Never Realized
For virtually his entire adult life, Yasser Arafat had one dream, and he pursued it with such energy and zeal -- some would say fanaticism -- that he came to personify the dream itself. The dream was of self-determination and statehood for the Palestinian people, and in the end he did not live to see it. "

Bullshit.
His dream was the destruction of Israel.

re: #53 Killian Bundy

Dude, Do you even need to ask?

A surgeon, is he?
So why isn't he treating his patients, instead of mouthing obscene drivel about the poor Palis fighting 'a total war waged against us'?

Oh, and if the media are so 'fair' - shouldn't they have given a similar space to an Israeli, to refute these wicked lies, rather than just having a gentle comment written by one of their own journos?

Arafat's Dream Never Realized
For virtually his entire adult life, Yasser Arafat had one dream, and he pursued it with such energy and zeal -- some would say fanaticism -- that he came to personify the dream itself. The dream was of self-determination and statehood for the Palestinian people, and in the end he did not live to see it.

AAAGH! Martin Luther King has been drafted into this media sockcuck.!

re: #67 Charles I ask this with all due respect: while it's true that the WaPo has "published op-eds by Yasser Arafat, Khaled Meshaal, CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the spiritual leader of Hizballah, Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah", I don't ever remember them concurrently (or frankly at any other time) also publishing an editorial that so severely criticizes their own Op-Ed column and columnist. I really do think that - although, as I said above, it doesn't justify the WaPo giving space to this murderous thug, it does belong in an update; it seems weird, to put it mildly, that they would publish and then Cristie -on the opposite page, no less - that which they've published.

re: #118 MandyManners

Well, not good. Maybe "redeeming" is the word I'm looking for.

I think you are being too nice about this. It would be like someone trying to steal something and when they get caught they tell the store owner that they were just testing his security system. It should never have happened in the first place. Both cases.

re: #87 BabbaZee

NEVER !

Amen

re: #95 Lucius Septimius

I regret that I have but one upding to give to that post.

What is "fair" has been discussed here many times. Is fair the same amount, the same percentage, or larger percentages for richer people? The word fair is all but useless, because everyone understands it differently. And evil will use that confusion to further itself.

re: #133 Charles

My thoughts on the "eulogy..."

re: #135 BabbaZee

Hallelujah! Git down witcha bad self!

You talked me into it! I think i shall get down ;)

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Oh dear - am in tears now ... NOT!

The dream was of self-determination and statehood for the Palestinian people, and in the end he did not live to see it.

[breaks down sobbing]

Oh, that poor, dear man.

/spit

Did the Wapo give an OP-ED to hitler, or Mao, or Stalin,

and yes im being serious

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

/akin to the memory of Martin Luther King, insane

re: #149 Peacekeeper

Arafat's Dream Never Realized

re: #125 Peacekeeper

Like HAMAS is worried about media pushback. They murder people and the media doesn't push back.

I was thinking in terms of what the public is able to read.

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

At least he was nice enough to die on a Jewish holiday.

If you are a Jew who is reading this and you don't already own a weapon: Buy one today.

Learn how to use it.

Learn how to clean it.

Learn how to conceal it.

If not for yourselves, then do it for your family & friends.

Charles is right: there is a BAAAAAAAD craziness that is loose in the world.

I've read about it, before.

Hear about it from others who experienced it firsthand.

In the words of Yogi Berra "It's deja vu time all over again~!"

DO IT TODAY!

~ENT

re: #150 realwest
PIMF: Criticize

re: #157 Occasional Reader

the day i saw that wiked aids infested man being airlifted to paris was one of the best of my life, up there with watching foxnews break the news that yassin was now at one with the sidewalk.

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Geez, if didnt know any different, id think this guy was on par with Ghandi.

re: #158 pegcity

Did the Wapo give an OP-ED to hitler, or Mao, or Stalin,

and yes im being serious

No, but they wish they could have.

re: #87 BabbaZee

Unfortunately lovely lady, there are far too many in Israel unwilling to inflict the serious hurt on these Amalakites which, in the long run, will save both Israelis and arabs.

After the Israelis napalmed those Retreating Egyptian Amoured Columns.... don't remember Egypt making threats towards Israel. If your going to be hated, make sure you're feared.

Arafat's Dream Never Realized
For virtually his entire adult life, Yasser Arafat had one dream, and he pursued it with such energy and zeal -- some would say fanaticism -- that he came to personify the dream itself. The dream was of self-determination and statehood for the Palestinian people, and in the end he did not live to see it.

Some would say infernal acts of damnation, some would say he built his castle out of the skulls of his victims, some would say that ...

re: #155 BGB!

You talked me into it! I think i shall get down ;)

Excellent!

rotf

re: #133 Charles

You do realize that it is lunch time here on the East Coast.

P.S. Am I still on double secret firsties probation?

re: #151 VegasRick

It would be like someone trying to steal something and when they get caught they tell the store owner that they were just testing his security system.

Reminds me of Juan Williams' inane justification for the NYT's revealing of the SWIFT wire transfer monitoring program. See, now that the terrorists know that SWIFT is being watched... it "takes this weapon out of their hands"! They can't use it any more! We should really award a frickkin' medal to the NYT!

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Oh, ick.

OMG... I'm at a complete loss... future editorial writer?

Beginning next Tuesday, Shvarts will be displaying her senior art project, a documentation of a nine-month process during which she artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" while periodically taking abortifacient drugs to induce miscarriages. Her exhibition will feature video recordings of these forced miscarriages as well as preserved collections of the blood from the process.

?!

'Many or most of [Arafat's] closest aides and confidants were murdered in the course of their long guerrilla struggle.'

. The Washington Post lies openly and with no sense of shame.

re: #161 MandyManners

Dillhole! ;)

My thoughts on the eulogy

re: #147 Endangered in MASS

Hamas makes John Walters look lame

re: #90 Occasional Reader

You mean you didn't marry a woman that could cook? Better at least get a dog to fetch your slippers.

re: #174 Yankee Division Son

oh i c.

And when she gets breast cancer in 5 years from now and dies that will be whos fault, er republicans thats right, or jews.

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Reads like a sappy love letter.

Arafat had a dream, you see.

No different from MLK's dream.

See, in the worldview of the WaPo, Arafat & Martin Luther King were morally the same; both were just trying to liberate their people.

Moral relativisim/postmodernism/moral inversions run amok in the MSM.

re: #151 VegasRick

I think you are being too nice about this. It would be like someone trying to steal something and when they get caught they tell the store owner that they were just testing his security system. It should never have happened in the first place. Both cases.

Good analogy.

re: #138 tfc3rid

He got the trains to run on time....at least the ones to Treblink, Bergen Belsen...

re: #174 Yankee Division Son

OMG... I'm at a complete loss... future editorial writer?

Beginning next Tuesday, Shvarts will be displaying her senior art project, a documentation of a nine-month process during which she artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" while periodically taking abortifacient drugs to induce miscarriages. Her exhibition will feature video recordings of these forced miscarriages as well as preserved collections of the blood from the process.

?!

Criminally insane.

What's the difference if you call it an al-Jazeera piece or not?

Just because it is countered doesn't it help their aim? It's similar to hosting of jihad websites, and it comes from the same people. It should be illegal.

re: #168 Widow'smight

true
however
A remnant will remain
those who said NEVER
and I intend to be one of them.

Israeli military strikes on Gaza have killed hundreds of Palestinians since then with unwavering White House approval; in 2007 alone the ratio of Palestinians to Israelis killed was 40 to 1, up from 4 to 1 during the period from 2000 to 2005.

Well to f**king bad war is hell ahole if you want that number to drop quit killing Israelis.

WaPoo.

All the poop unfit to print, delivered to you front door in a flaming bag every morning.

re: #174 Yankee Division Son

OMG... I'm at a complete loss... future editorial writer?

Beginning next Tuesday, Shvarts will be displaying her senior art project, a documentation of a nine-month process during which she artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" while periodically taking abortifacient drugs to induce miscarriages. Her exhibition will feature video recordings of these forced miscarriages as well as preserved collections of the blood from the process.

?!

Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted.

re: #178 Sacred Plants

GANJIHAD!

re: #176 Peacekeeper

Dillhole! ;)

Fart-sniffer.

We were discussion the suspicious death of the Reuters camera man yesterday. Here's the film he shot: Raw : Shana's Last Moments.

Any new clues here?

re: #178 Sacred Plants

Oh! The pain.

re: #172 Occasional Reader

Reminds me of Juan Williams' inane justification for the NYT's revealing of the SWIFT wire transfer monitoring program. See, now that the terrorists know that SWIFT is being watched... it "takes this weapon out of their hands"! They can't use it any more! We should really award a frickkin' medal to the NYT!

Yep. Scumbags with weak excuses.

re: #107 LanceKates

It is 3AM.... the phone rings....

who do you want to answer it?

How about this guy? He'll tell whoever called at 3AM to piss off.

Absolutely hilarious... Isn't that the same guy who did Achmed?!

re: #160 BabbaZee,

I think it is a good thing Arafish's Dream was never realized. All he dreamed of was Israel's destruction.

re: #100 bill-tb

Democrat Pres Jimmy Carter rehabilitation ... The dumbest president ever known to America, needs help for his legacy.

The Rabbit was unavailable for comment.

re: #188 bulwrk

it should be 10,000 to 1 if i had my way.

Why have strike eagles if your not gonna use them to their full potential

re: #175 Tumulus11

Actually, many of Arafat's closest aides & confidantes were buggered by the old pus-bag.

re: #174 Yankee Division Son

OMG... I'm at a complete loss... future editorial writer?

Beginning next Tuesday, Shvarts will be displaying her senior art project, a documentation of a nine-month process during which she artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" while periodically taking abortifacient drugs to induce miscarriages. Her exhibition will feature video recordings of these forced miscarriages as well as preserved collections of the blood from the process.

?!

My. God.

re: #189 jcm

WaPoo.

All the poop unfit to print, delivered to you front door in a flaming bag every morning.

I ain't stomping on it.

re: #79 Occasional Reader

I mean, who hasn't enjoyed an evening of catching the latest Palestinian opera, then downloading a copy of the event for posterity on a cutting-edge, Palestinian-designed PDA web browser? Not to mention all that life-saving medical technology at your local hospital that was invented by Palestinians.

Indeed, it's difficult to imagine the modern world at all, without the incredible contributions of the Palestinians.

/need I?

Well, considering the "Palestinians" stole the name from the Israelis, and there are so many Israeli inventions in this list, there is a bit of truth here.

re: #197 Iron Fist

and little blued eyed swedish boys.

re: #91 madisonsfriend
Well it's probably of no consolation to you, but they won't print my letters either; never thought to write to the Ombudsman cause I didn't know that they had one (I think I've read the WaPo maybe twice in the past year).

re: #197 Iron Fist

,

I think it is a good thing Arafish's Dream was never realized. All he dreamed of was Israel's destruction.

Quite right, Oh Ferrule One

re: #201 Occasional Reader

we freaked about this on the DT

re: #122 tfc3rid

But, but Hamas was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED... We HAVE to listen to them... They are a legitimate government...

The people of the West Bank and Gaza chose Hamas democratically, but the democratically elected government they chose is a depotism, a kleptocracy. The fact that they chose Hamas democratically demonstrates that they support what Hamas's aims, goals, and means.

re: #89 gman

Yuck!

What's next? Excerpts from Mein Kampf tomorrow and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion for Saturday?

Don't forget recipes for matza using gentile blood for Passover.
/need I?

re: #132 pegcity

So was Hitler

/what the hell is a history book

Actually, no, or at least not in the sense of a real election.

Hitler tried unsuccessfully to run for president against Hindenburg in 1932. His party never had a majority in the Reichstag but held enough seats (33%) that no conservative government could be constructed without them as members of the coalition. Chancellor von Papen of the conservative DNVP tried to broker a deal with Hitler as vice chancellor, but Schickelgruber wouldn't cooperate. Later the Nazi's led a vote of no-confidence against the Papan gov't and Hitler was appointed chancellor in the aftermath. Then came the Reichstag fire in March, 1933 which the Nazis blamed on the Communists. All the left wing parties were suppressed, and most of the Right-Wing groups forcibly brought under Nazi leadership. Only after this did Hitler call an "election," but by that point it was moot -- the only party left standing was the NSDAP.

It was, in other words, a coup with a very thin democratic veneer. Hitler actually intended the whole thing to discredit democratic processes.

re: #187 BabbaZee

true
however
A remnant will remain
those who said NEVER
and I intend to be one of them.

'bout says it all.

re: #196 Fat Jolly Penguin

Absolutely hilarious... Isn't that the same guy who did Achmed?!

Surely is.

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Hmpfff.

I like this memorial to Arafat muuuuuuuch better...

~ENT

re: #207 BabbaZee

we freaked about this on the DT

Ah.

I assume someone (or many someones) also brought up the hilarious spin Obama put on "clinging to religion" slap... how he just meant that, in a positive sense, ya understand, religion is a "constant" refuge in times of trouble (or something warma and fuzzy like that)? So... presumably he feels the same way about guns and xenophobia (which were also part of his clingy laundry list).

re: #191 BabbaZee

and Sacred .....

I can't wait to see the little Eichman's faces when they hear this crunchy groove*...

*South Park hippie episode

re: #213 EtNorskTroll

Hmpfff.

I like this memorial to Arafat muuuuuuuch better...

~ENT

Very nice.

re: #211 Golem Akbar

{Golem}

Gotta go.

re: #215 Endangered in MASS

Beware the drum circle..

re: #133 Charles

For virtually his entire adult life, Yasser Arafat had one dream, and he pursued it with such energy and zeal -- some would say fanaticism -- that he came to personify the dream itself.

The dream was of self-determination and statehood for the Palestinian people, and in the end he did not live to see it.

Such was his devotion to the cause that Arafat, who died early today at age 75 in a military hospital outside Paris, was willing to tolerate and embrace bloody acts of terror that made him an international pariah

That's as far as I could read before I began to have a curious sensation in my stomach.

re: #201 Occasional Reader

We were discussing it on the DT this morning, I put it up in spinoffs.

Depraved.

re: #216 VegasRick

Very nice.

heh.

ENT

re: #187 BabbaZee

For that passage, and many others, I know Israel will survive somehow.

They prolly just need some more Bitter, clinging to guns and Bible Rednecks like me I guess.

Why isn't every healthy Israeli trained/armed?

re: #219 Yankee Division Son

26 th INF?

re: #207 BabbaZee

we freaked about this on the DT

So. this is where liberal "thinking" is taking us, self abortion is now "art". Can snuff videos be far behind?

/my loathing is beyond words.

Re #133 Charles
From the WaPo eulogy of Yasser Arafat:

"The people of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are among the most able, educated, entrepreneurial and politically sophisticated of the Middle East; they are more than capable of creating the peaceful and democratic state that President Bush and the United Nations have proposed for them. "

Must be referring to Hamas-TV and Farfur the mouse

chaos here. BBL

re: #214 Occasional Reader

Behold! Verily I say unto you that the Islamic Beast will ride the Gramscian Whore straight into the Obamanation that Causes Desolation.

lol
/I am not insane, Most Excellent Festus!

Ah, here you are! My *lovely* computer crashed this morning and I'm just now back online.... But even that can't spoil my lovely day!

I know, I posted it on the other thread, too. I just wanted to hear it again! Wassup, Lizards?

re: #224 Endangered in MASS

26 th INF?

My Dad, yes.

re: #199 pegcity

Its the proportional response theory that will allow hamas to continue the fight indefinitely.You kill one of ours we kill 40 of yours is the path to peace in gaza.

re: #217 BabbaZee

{Golem}

Kind of like saying: on the one hand, we have our work cut out for us. And on the other hand --
[thanks for that]

re: #226 blame canada

Must be referring to Hamas-TV and Farfur the mouse

There are soap operas that kill off fewer characters than the Hamas-TV kids show.

re: #95 Lucius Septimius
Hi Lucius - "This gives opinions that really aren't worth taking serious credence with the general public." I agree with you, and, in my #32 above, I said "That the WaPo allows this scum the newspaper space to perpetuate the lies and myths of the Palestinians is just one more example of how the MSM has become nearly totally irrelevant to life today."
Nonetheless, I can never remember a time or circumstance when the WaPo published, directly opposite their own "Op-Ed" and editorial that harshly criticized the Op-Ed. Indeed, that may be the real story here, as we've all heard the garbage lies, and misdirections of Zahar’s Op-Ed before.
BTW, if he's a "surgeon" (a title that would lead an ordinary reader to assume a higher degree of education than just "Mr."), how come the WaPo's editorial talks of Mr. Zahar?

re: #230 Yankee Division Son

WWII?

re: #225 maddogg

So. this is where liberal "thinking" is taking us, self abortion is now "art". Can snuff videos be far behind?

/my loathing is beyond words.

Not quite snuff films, but very, very close.
Film captures suicides on Golden Gate Bridge

Golden Gate Bridge officials are seething that a moviemaker who told them he was working on a "day in the life" project about the landmark was, in fact, capturing people on film as they jumped to their deaths.

re: #215 Endangered in MASS

join the internet drum circle =:-)

re: #225 maddogg

The Abortion art isn't exactly getting "rave" reviews from the artistic community (save for perhaps "nerofly's" response.)

/gotta love the response from the commenter with the Hunter S. Thompson quote.

re: #215 Endangered in MASS

Drug yer kids into submission
Drink yourself into oblivion.
Get Cialis induced Priapism today!
But smoke no demon weed.

re: #227 Peacekeeper

chaos here. BBL

Likely story. You're just too bowled over by my calling you a "fart-sniffer." HA!

re: #235 Endangered in MASS

WWII?

Yes. Check the avatar, he's in the pic. btw, also Mass here.. Howdy neighbor!

re: #232 Golem Akbar

Yes ....the dreaded other hand, lol

re: #236 jcm

I'm surpised they allow pedestrians on that thing.

re: #133 Charles

Get a load of this lovely eulogy I just discovered for the first time at the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Didn't realize his dream?

Don't recurring dreams count--killing inncocent Jews at bus stops, cafés, restaurants, markets, etc. etc. I think "He had a dream" and many did come true. Thank God he shall dream no more.

re: #234 realwest
ADDENDUM - it's worth noting that even though they thought it worth giving this murderous scumbag the space to publish his lies and distortions, in their editorial the WaPo did say:"The former president, on what he says is a road to peace, embraces Hamas terrorists.
Nice of them to recognize reality once in a while.

Don't want to read the online Hamas/Fatah/al-Qaida playbook, but I'm sure someone can tell us which # posting articles/op-ed' in infidel newspapers is.

re: #225 maddogg

So. this is where liberal "thinking" is taking us, self abortion is now "art". Can snuff videos be far behind?

/my loathing is beyond words.

Eugenics Akbar

re: #236 jcm

Zombie at HuffPo!?

Nice hat

re: #236 jcm

No wait there is the "art" snuff film ....

of that insane gay horse banger, remember?

re: #237 Sacred Plants

join the internet drum circle =:-)

I cordially invite you to join the Ganjahadeen.

lol

re: #248 laZardo

Zombie at HuffPo!?

you can't hide from the all seeing, all hearing zombie
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

re: #148 yma o hyd And why did the WaPo's editorial refer to him as "Mr." - I always thought that surgeons were, like, doctors with a specialty and therefore entitled to be called or reffered to as "Dr."!

In the end, it is always a question of our children and those who come after us.

Keep killing your children in suicide missions and there will be no one to come after you.

re: #226 blame canada

Re #133 Charles
From the WaPo eulogy of Yasser Arafat:

"The people of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are among the most able, educated, entrepreneurial and politically sophisticated of the Middle East; they are more than capable of creating the peaceful and democratic state that President Bush and the United Nations have proposed for them. "

Must be referring to Hamas-TV and Farfur the mouse

Actually, they were the best educated in the Middle East - when they were under Israeli authority. Then they started killing Israelis, they got autonomy, and they turned their areas into little hells.

re: #250 BabbaZee

No wait there is the "art" snuff film ....

of that insane gay horse banger, remember?

Didn't he know you're supposed to ride the horse, and the hosre is not supposed to ride you?

Condi calls Hamas a "resistance movement" ~
AGAIN.

JERUSALEM - For at least the fourth time in recent months, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice referred to the Hamas terrorist organization as a "resistance" movement during unscripted remarks with reporters, WND has learned.

This time, Rice was giving a free-ranging interview two weeks ago with the Washington Times when a reporter asked her about the wisdom of encouraging democracy in countries where radical Islamists could win elections, pointing as an example to Hamas, which won Palestinian elections two years ago.

Rice replied: "It's, I would say, still a story-in-progress on Hamas, in particular, because I think there's plenty of evidence now that one reason that Hamas went back to their bad old ways and took over the Gaza and overthrew the legitimate Palestinian Authority institutions is that actually they were failing at governance, and it's easier to be a resistance movement than to be a governing movement."

re: #248 laZardo

Just how the MP3-wielding Fowler managed to secure an invite to the $1,000 a head fundraiser at the San Francisco home of developer Alex Mehran wasn't immediately clear - but Obama campaign higher-ups were said to be livid, with fingers pointing at a local fundraising consultant for the slip-up.

Scum. Why is it that his opinion isn't supposed to count for anything if it's given in private?

re: #252 jcm

Presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign has been in full damage control mode since the senator's blunt remarks about the nature of small town Pennsylvania voters were secretly recorded by a Huffington Post blogger at a recent San Francisco fundraiser that was supposed to be off limits to the press.

Mayhill Fowler my ass. (;

I am a little late to the thread so this may have been pointed out, Barack Hussein sees nothing wrong with the Carter trip.
So you see the WaPo is only following the lead of the gifted orator.
I have a little trouble with the thought process, but I could be a bitter, Bible thumpin, gun totin, cracker.

re: #251 BabbaZee

Does this involve bongs camouflaged as anti-aircraft missile launchers?

re: #254 Sharmuta

Or rather, no one left for them to come after.

re: #248 laZardo

Zombie at HuffPo!?

The undead one can be anywhere, unnoticed until it is too late.

re: #133 Charles