Get out the jacket.

Well, Carter is a disgraceful idiot

Sigh.

Man that rabbit must have really gotten to him all those years ago.

What is it with Dems and lying anyway? I know he reads the NY Times, and it was printed in there also IIRC.

“President Carter has the greatest respect for ... Rice and believes her to be a truthful person. However, perhaps inadvertently, she is continuing to make a statement that is not true,” a statement issued by the Carter center in Atlanta said on Wednesday.

That's a pretty mild version of calling her 'a liar.'

But then again, I believe Carter to be a "well-intentioned person. However, perhaps inadvertently, he is continuing to take actions that are bad-intentioned."

Which is the mild version of calling him 'a moron.'

I'll have to sit out this thread.

Who is lying?

re: #6 Cognito

You know thats diplospeak for liar.

We need to find a public statement made by the State Dapartment asking him not to go. I'll bet there was one.

Someone is lying, Jimmy...

It is so embarrassing that this man was ever President of the US. Can't we deport him to Gaza or something?

Will someone bring a net down over this guy already?

Hmmm, both deaf and senile. His old lady must feel fortunate to have him out from under foot.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull."

W. C Fields

.....I think he is demented...pre Alzheimer's

did you notice the grim look on his wife's face, every time she was photographed?

C. Rice has sunk very low in my opinion the last 3 or so years.

I'll look for official statements from the State Department.

re: #3 winston06

Well, Carter is a disgraceful idiot

So is Rice. Not as bad as Jimmah but still not good. It's tough to decide which one to believe.

Maybe jimmah critter didn't read news papers or listen to news programs prior to this little sorie of his. Seems like I remember several people of note saying he shouldn't meet with hamas. Did I dream that?

That boy just ain't right.

I wonder when they can have him forcibly medicated. Do they have to wait until he publicly announces his hatred for Jews?
/oh wait.

Jimmy Carter: Jew-Hater, Genocide-Enabler, Liar

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

It's not a matter of deciding which one to believe, but which one to like.

And the likelihood that Rice is telling the truth is pretty high. After all, she runs the department that issued the warnings, and I seem to remember reading about someone at State saying publicly that it would be a Bad Thing for Jimmah to go to Hamas.

re: #25 Onibroc

Do I have to like either? I dislike Rice less and tend to believe her on this one but it's still a tough call.

Argggh! When is this long national nightmare of Jhimma Carter going to end?

re: #18 song_and_dance_man

The killer rabbit incident has obviously left some serious psychological scars.

Yuppers, the bunny's family is paying through the nose for Prozac and counseling for the little fella.

Let me eat my waffle. [btw it was a Belgian waffle.]

[Link: www.state.gov...]

QUESTION: Well, here it is. Carter plans to go with the elders.

MR. MCCORMACK: Yeah.

QUESTION: The elders cancel their trip, and then he – and then after being specifically advised that this particular meeting with Hamas, if it should happen, is a bad idea, he’s going to go ahead and do it anyway. What does that say?

MR. MCCORMACK: That says that he is the former president of the United States and he will take his – take his own decisions. And if he decides to travel to Syria, we will provide full support befitting a former president of the United States while he is in Syria. One thing we will not do, however, is in – have the Department of State, in any way, engage in any sort of planning related to a meeting with Hamas.

They both suck

re: #13 dr.mister

It is so embarrassing that this man was ever President of the US. Can't we deport him to Gaza or something?

A man on the street stopped me the other day to tell me that Jimmy Carter is the best president America ever had.

All I could do was keep on strolling.

I have no use for Condi Rice, but she could plummet to the bottom of the Marianas Trench and still be miles above Jimmy Carter.

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

I have no use for Condi Rice, but she could plummet to the bottom of the Marianas Trench and still be miles above Jimmy Carter.

She could also fit in a Coke bottle. Which would be pretty weird.

re: #33 Cognito

A man on the street stopped me the other day to tell me that Jimmy Carter is the best president America ever had.

All I could do was keep on strolling.

What are you doing in Gaza?

re: #6 Cognito

That's a pretty mild version of calling her 'a liar.'

But then again, I believe Carter to be a "well-intentioned person. However, perhaps inadvertently, he is continuing to take actions that are bad-intentioned."

Which is the mild version of calling him 'a moron.'

But in Politic-speak it's equivalent to throwing down the gauntlet and demanding satisfaction.

re: #35 Cognito

She could also fit in a Coke bottle. Which would be pretty weird.

I'm not quite sure what this means, but it certainly sounds intriguing.

re: #35 Cognito

She could also fit in a Coke bottle. Which would be pretty weird.

And she thinks she's under a lot of pressure now...

re: #36 EC Marm

What are you doing in Gaza?

Ha. You'd laugh if you knew.

Also, no, not in Gaza.

re: #33 Cognito

A man on the street stopped me the other day to tell me that Jimmy Carter is the best president America ever had.

All I could do was keep on strolling.

All crazy people on the street do to me is ask me for quarters. I think I'm better off.

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

I have no use for Condi Rice, but she could plummet to the bottom of the Marianas Trench and still be miles above Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy does have a 30 year head start on her and she is working hard to catch up.

re: #40 Cognito

Ha. You'd laugh if you knew.

So spill it, I like to laugh.

I'm guessing Jimmah must have missed all the press release and comments from the State Dept saying "DONT TALK WITH HAMAS!"

Fucking moron.

re: #36 EC Marm

What are you doing in Gaza?

ROFL !

Again, as a reminder I post this about that POS, Carter. Rice is no bargain, either. They deserve each other. I wish they would have a live on TV boxing match on Pay TV, with the money going to Israel..

As for the killer rabbit?

Difference here for me is, when dementia struck President Regan I felt sorry for him.

Seems like Jimmah the Dhimmah is trying to engage in a little Obamboozling of his own.

I think a protest march to the "Carter Center" by a large number of anti-idiotarians could be a good thing.

I'm certain they have some kind of communication back-up if they officially told him not to go. I'd love to see it if they do.

But really, besides the entertainment value, what does it matter if they did or they didn't? He'd have gone anyway.

He's a walking turd so it's really a mystery as to why anyone bothers with him at all.

re: #44 EC Marm

So spill it, I like to laugh.

Just working.

"Workin' in a coal mine
Goin' down down down"

re: #52 Cognito

Just working.

"Workin' in a coal mine
Goin' down down down"

Oh, working on the tunnels.

re: #53 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Oh, working on the tunnels.

Ha

re: #31 zmdavid

Thanks for the transcript.

re: #49 guzziguy

Difference here for me is, when dementia struck President Regan I felt sorry for him.

Well, sure, because it was a part of aging and Alzheimers.
In Jimmy's case we're talking about a demented world view that has been evident since 1976......at the latest.

It would seem to me that if Rice or the state Dept. had issued a warning to Carter, then they should be able to produce it in printed form or by verifying an email...or something.

I did read in the news before Carter's visit that he had been asked not to go by the State Dept....Perhaps they thought that by issuing the statement via the media, that Carter would understand that they did not want him to go?

Someone is not telling the truth.

I'm no fan of Condi's, but I like to see her whip Carter on this one.
Seems to me he's trying to cover his traitorous tracks.

I cried with this fool was elected. I was right to cry. 28 years since he was president and I can still remember how upset my parents were when he was elected. My dad was pissed.

Of course my dad didn't much care for democrats. He said they were always trying to change every tradition and pick his pocket.

BBL

Gotta work :)

Susan

Kinda ironic that Welch was just in Lebanon to commemorate the twenty-fifth anniversary of the bombing of the American embassy by Hezbollah, another Iranian proxy force like Jimmahs friend Hamas. Gotta go with rice on this one.

He's a disgrace and a laughing stock. And that's about the least horrible thing I can say about him.

Lest I be smited with the Banning Stick.

re: #58 wolfie

I'm no fan of Condi's, but I like to see her whip Carter on this one.
Seems to me he's trying to cover his traitorous tracks.

I'm just unclear what he's aiming for, here. That he didn't know the State Department disapproved? Really?

re: #48 NY Nana

Again, as a reminder I post

Is Carter saying that he had no idea the State Department was against his trip, or is he saying Condi got a few details wrong?

I think he is saying the latter while trying to get everyone to think he means the former. If called on it, he will nitpick some tiny detail that is impossible to prove.

He's been taking lessons from Bill Clinton.

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

A former president shouldn't need a warning from the State Dept. about meeting with a terrorist organization. But then, we are talking about Carter.

If obama is elected POTUS he will be worse than carter, can you even get your mind around that?

Carter has failed in doing anything over there besides being a postman for Hamas. In failing with Israel and the Palestinians he'll now resort to attacking Rice who predicted he would have no success.

"How dare she predict my failure!" -Jimmy C.

Hamas, which controls Gaza, is viewed as a terrorist organization by the United States, the European Union and Israel.

Noooooooo. Surely not.

Mar 4, 2001 - Naftali Dean, 85, of Tel Mond; his niece, Shlomit Ziv, 58, of Netanya; and Yevgenya Malchin, 70, of Netanya were killed in a suicide bombing in downtown Netanya; 60 people were injured. The Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 28, 2001 - Eliran Rosenberg-Zayat, 15, of Givat Shmuel and Naftali Lanzkorn, 13, of Petah Tikva were killed in a suicide bombing at the Mifgash Hashalom ("peace stop") gas station several hundred meters from an IDF roadblock near the entrance to Kalkilya, east of Kfar Saba. Four people were injured. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 22, 2001 - Dr. Mario Goldin, 53, of Kfar Sava, was killed when a terrorist detonated a powerful bomb he was carrying near a group of people waiting at a bus stop on the corner of Weizman and Tchernichovsky streets. About 60 people were injured in the blast. Hamas claimed responsibility.

May 18, 2001 - Tirza Polonsky, 66, of Moshav Kfar Haim; Miriam Waxman, 51, of Hadera; David Yarkoni, 53, of Netanya; Yulia Tratiakova, 21, of Netanya; and Vladislav Sorokin, 34, of Netanya were killed in a suicide bombing at Hasharon Mall in the seaside city of Netanya, in which over 100 were wounded. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 9, 2001 - Giora Balash, 60, of Brazil; Zvika Golombek, 26, of Carmiel; Shoshana Yehudit Greenbaum, 31, of the U.S.; Tehila Maoz, 18, of Jerusalem; Frieda Mendelsohn, 62, of Jerusalem; Michal Raziel, 16, of Jerusalem; Malka Roth, 15, of Jerusalem; Mordechai Schijveschuurder, 43, of Neria; Tzira Schijveschuurder, 41, of Neria; Ra'aya Schijveschuurder, 14, of Neria; Avraham Yitzhak Schijveschuurder, 4, of Neria; Hemda Schijveschuurder, 2, of Neria; Lily Shimashvili, 33, of Jerusalem; Tamara Shimashvili, 8, of Jerusalem; and Yocheved Shoshan, 10, of Jerusalem were killed and about 130 injured in a suicide bombing at the Sbarro pizzeria on the corner of King George Street and Jaffa Road in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas and the Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Nov 27, 2001 - Etty Fahima, 45, of Netzer Hazani was killed three others were injured when a Palestinian terrorist threw grenades and opened fire at a convoy on the road between the Kissufim crossing and Gush Katif in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday evening. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 1, 2001 - Assaf Avitan, 15, of Jerusalem; Michael Moshe Dahan, 21, of Jerusalem; Israel Ya'akov Danino, 17, of Jerusalem; Yosef El-Ezra, 18, of Jerusalem; Sgt. Nir Haftzadi, 19, of Jerusalem; Yuri (Yoni) Korganov, 20, of Ma'alei Adumim; Golan Turgeman, 15, of Jerusalem; Guy Vaknin, 19, of Jerusalem; Adam Weinstein, 14, of Givon Hahadasha, and Moshe Yedid-Levy, 19, of Jerusalem were killed and about 180 injured - 17 seriously - when explosive devices were detonated by two suicide bombers close to 11:30 P.M. Saturday night on Ben Yehuda Street, the pedestrian mall in the center of Jerusalem. A car bomb exploded nearby 20 minutes later. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
Ido Cohen, 17, of Jerusalem, fatally injured in the attack, died of his wounds on December 8.

Dec 2, 2001 - Prof. Baruch Singer, 51, of Gedera was killed when Palestinian gunmen opened fire on his car near the northern Gaza settlement of Elei Sinai. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

And it goes on ... Idjit.

If a Conservative said that a black women lied he/she would face hate crime charges.
If a republican was negotiating with terrorist he would be jailed.
The criminal crap they get away with is insane !

re: #57 Ringo the Gringo

This is a Clintonesque point on the part of Dumbo. Somebody in the state department did not come up to him and address him with the proper degree of reverence and ask that he pretty please not talk to Hamas. In that his statement is probably true. However, it is certainly true that short of that, the communication that he shouldn't was loud enough for anyone to hear.

re: #62 Cognito

I'm just unclear what he's aiming for, here. That he didn't know the State Department disapproved? Really?

I'm am going to guess that he has been getting flack from Dem operatives about making this trip in an election year, especially when he was asked not to do it by a (Rep) administration. My guess is that his immediate concern is to be an honored guest at the Dem convention and he is getting some bad vibes from the party.
Obama has enough trouble w/ his own Hamas connections. He and the Dems don't need Carter hanging around.
Unfortunately, Carter is an attention whore.
That's my take.

I lived through those 'peanut years,' and suffered with the inflation and high energy prices. Quite similar to our current times, except the interest rates haven't gone into double digits yet. I didn't know at the time that his talk on 'human rights' only applied to those followers of Mohammad the pedophile and similar idiocy. I still like Condi Rice in spite of what her loyalty to the current disaster that lives in the White House. She would make a good Vice President, except that she is too damaged by her association with 'W' to ever get elected.

re: #62 Cognito

Ooops! Forgot to add that I think he is Clintonizing....basically lying.

re: #69 LeftJustAintRight

Blame the Justice Department. They've given a pass to State, NSA, and CIA leaks and voter fraud too. How do you go after Carter when you let Pelosi get away with her visit to Assad?

The truth as Dhimmi Carter imagines it and the truth are two quite different things.

Go pound some nails, Mr ex-President.

re: #64 wolfie

Wolfie,

I have only watched 3/4 of it, but will watch it all tonight. My sides hurt! And it is the first laugh in about 24 hours.

Could a citizen have him deemed incompetent and have him put away?

re: #77 LeftJustAintRight

He is endangering our lives

[Link: blogs.usatoday.com...]

re: #11 zmdavid

Like this one?

Let's see...Carter says Hamas is ready for peace and later the same day Hamas says "what was that guy smoking?", but Condi is the liar?

Bush is getting close to Carter territory on the disastrous Presidency scale, but still has a little way to go.

Winner by TKO for the worst President in our lifetime by unanimous decision...Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy's short term memory is gone.
He thinks he's still president.
Can't remember conversations from a few days ago.
You make the diagnosis.

Great, now the man tries to dis his own country. I think it has to be Alzheimer creeping in.

re: #79 Libs are Mental

[Link:

Hmmmm. Carter's memory or Condi's?
/that was hard

re: #79 Libs are Mental

Yes. I had a link from state.gov earlier in the thread, like yours from USA Today that is from April 10th saying he shouldn't go.

Somehow Carter didn't get the message? That strains credulity a bit too far.

Jimmy Carter wants to be the keynote speaker at the Dem convention. First he sabotages the Bush policy of isolating Hamas, by giving effusive praise to Hamas and going to meet the leader of the Hamas genocide machine. Then he wants to blame the Bush administration for this sabotage that he carried out.

Carter is an enemy of Israel, an enemy of the Bush administration, and a foe of any rational policy of the US.

re: #82 HelloDare

re: #83 Naso Tang

Ih dear! I think there are a lot of folks too young here to remeber Carter's presidency. His problem is not Alzheimers......unless he contracted it 40 years ago. He's always been a sanctimonious little twerp.

I'll thank you young whipper-snappers to quit associating his dementia with nice ladies like me.....who can't remember where their car keys are! :D

re: #87 song_and_dance_man

Carter taxes sound reason.

Obama wants to tax it 15% more!

re: #20 Neo Con since 9/11

So is Rice. Not as bad as Jimmah but still not good. It's tough to decide which one to believe.

For me it's a no-brainer. The person who doesn't takes Hamas at their word.

re: #87 song_and_dance_man

Carter taxes sound reason.

No wonder the Democrats won't disown him!

re: #88 EE

Yes....Or at least he's afraid the Dems will try to hide him in a closet.
He was to be honored.
And they're afraid to do it....in public.

re: #94 savage_nation

hi kids

Dad? When did you figure out how to work the internet?

You gotta understand, Jimmah has sort of an "alternative" approach to the whole reality versus fantasy thing.

Shortly after he released his big apartheid turd, I saw Jimmah being interviewed on CNN. The interviewer mentioned that Bill Clinton had blamed Yasir Arafat, not Israel, for the failure of Clinton's attempts to broker peace at Camp David. According to Clinton's account, Arafat called him on the phone three days before the end of Clinton's presidency, and told Clinton "you are a great man." Clinton says his reply was "I'm a colossal failure, and you made me one."

Jimmah, on CNN, denied that this ever happened. "That's not correct," he kept saying. "President Clinton didn't say that. His memory is incorrect." I was as stunned as the CNN interviewer was.

Lizards, if at some point I start swearing on national TV that I know every word that was spoken in someone else's private telephone conversation five years ago, please have me committed for psychiatric treatment.

does anyone else ave the feeling our economy is under deliberate attack?

/call me paranoid

GAZE.

PIMF was= wantsre: #97 Last Mohican

I remember that now ! Great point!

re: #102 savage_nation

I do.
/ Call ME paranoid too..

Me three... from within and without.

re: #99 ploome hineni

re: #102 savage_nation

Surely you don't believe that the America-hating billionaire George Soros would attempt to put the economy in a tailspin merely to aid the election of a rabid Marxist?

re: #100 savage_nation

July 22, 1994. Thats the day I went into the Charlotte Public Library and saw the internet for the first time. I thought to myself, "This is going to change the world."

Little did I know...

Ha. The first time I saw the internet, I thought, "This isn't as good as Nintendo."

Computers are a fad.

re: #103 savage_nation
How about chilling out a little?

Obama/Ayers '08!

re: #99 ploome hineni

does anyone else ave the feeling our economy is under deliberate attack?

/call me paranoid

Yes and I don't think you are paranoid.

re: #99 ploome hineni

does anyone else ave the feeling our economy is under deliberate attack?

/call me paranoid

The economy is getting rocked, for sure. But who would be the attackers?

Big fat liar! I remember hearing on the news that State was in convulsions over this.

re: #112 Cognito

The economy is getting rocked, for sure. But who would be the attackers?

Lefty. They just want free stuff!

re: #112 Cognito

The economy is getting rocked, for sure. But who would be the attackers?

The left?

re: #99 ploome hineni

does anyone else ave the feeling our economy is under deliberate attack?

/call me paranoid

I wish I knew more about hedge funds, commodity futures, etc.
I just wonder sometimes.
And I wonder about George Soros....because he's pulled a lot of screwy & illegal stuff before w/ currency deals.

re: #99 ploome hineni

does anyone else ave the feeling our economy is under deliberate attack?

/call me paranoid

Paranoid! There....

You are exhibiting a classic case of unrealized expectations. Age sometimes is part of the cause here.

Recessions come and go... that's what they do.

We have had several years of weak growth and poorly managed personal wealth and public wealth. Use this time now to optimize (i.e., get rid of the poor processes and replace them with better ones.)

re: #87 song_and_dance_man

Carter taxes sound reason.

Well the Dems have figured out how to tax air(carbon offsets). Why not reason?

Personally I just think that we -- through a confluence of ugly circumstances -- have found ourselves over a barrel, so to speak. No attack needed, really.

re: #112 Cognito

The economy is getting rocked, for sure. But who would be the attackers?

It is happening under our noses
The oil suppliers and Soros and China
If our dollar are devalued then they have control
If we would not pay $12o dollars for oil they would have to drink it
If we did not rely on cheap Chinese products they would have no market
Blame the dems for all of it

re: #112 Cognito

The economy is getting rocked, for sure. But who would be the attackers?

You ever play sports for a first place team? Everybody wants a piece of you. This country is no different. But it requires a first rate defense against the attacks, and a first rate offense to keep us ahead. Wish I could say I saw it differently but I'm just bitter, clinging to my guns and Bible, and antipathy here in PencilVainYa.

re: #87 song_and_dance_man

Carter taxes sound reason.

Like all good Dummycrats.

re: #99 ploome hineni

does anyone else ave the feeling our economy is under deliberate attack?

/call me paranoid

I'd say it's more like complete and utter ineptitude by the entire Bush administration, how's that? With the mortgage mess, $120 oil, American food stores encouraging rationing of rice for crying out loud, no control of our borders, the folly of trying to convert 7th century primitives into modernity, the worthless dollar, etc; I'd say Bush is competing quite well with Carter for the worst President in living memory.

Oh how I wish we'd form OFEC (Organization of Food Exporting Countries) and shove some of the same tactics employed by OPEC down their fucking throats to their soon to be very hungry stomachs.

Unfortunately, we have no leadership on almost any level these days.

re: #122 LeftJustAintRight

It is happening under our noses
The oil suppliers and Soros and China
If our dollar are devalued then they have control
If we would not pay $12o dollars for oil they would have to drink it
If we did not rely on cheap Chinese products they would have no market
Blame the dems for all of it

There's some truth there, I think, but not totally right. I think the rise in demand in China and India -- which has kept oil prices up, regardless of American cutbacks in demand, etc -- has a lot to do with the global fuel/food problem.

The problem is is that if we don't pay for the oil, someone else will.

re: #123 EC Marm

You folks really came through for us last night in rejecting the Obamassiah!
(Too bad you had to do it by voting for the broom-jockey...............
......but that's not your fault.)

re: #119 freetoken
How come your avatar is in the flags of Algeria, Azerbaijani Republic, Malaysia, Maldives, Republic of Singapore, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Comoros, Islamic Republic of Mauritania, and Uzbekistan?