All that's missing is a coherent point.

Charles, check the reports. Thanos found something very interesting (and related) at Brussels Journal.

Waffles

Fjordman's sock puppet?

The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

Wow. So that's what it takes to be noticed by the FBI.

If we have to wait for our allies to be lily-pure, then we can't even support our own political parties when they leave people like Senator Byrd firmly in place. Just to name one.

It is fine for the first generation to stick with first generation activities. But the duty of the second generation in this conflict is to actively resist. Whether they have the blessing of the first generation theorists or not, they will continue to meet, to plan, and to act.

Things are evolving and there is no time to waste.

They are going to wind up in jail for attacking Muslims. This is s threat that should be taken seriously.

The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

So, are the GOV people enlisting. is it going to be Ft. Benning or is it Parris Island?

unfortunately,these people will continue to use the legitimate fight against the jihadi punks to further their own ignoble agenda..good on us for refusing to get sucked in and for recognizing the least common denominator,which they surely are..I have real scars on my body from fighting against racism in my presence,I'll be damned before I fight alonside this lot..

Mr Spencer retorts....

And finally and most importantly, the question is not whether or not our allies are "lily pure." The question is whether or not we are, after all, fighting for the same thing. That is a question abundantly worth asking, and answering.

Robert rules!

I can hear Media Matters laughing.

The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

Why do these people always sound like they're quoting "Mein Kampf"?

Generations, "blood", resistance, fighting, et cetera. Real Nazi language - you know, the dirty phrases that imply that fighting, race, and reproduction are interlinked.

It's a little creepy, no?

Cheap shot.

However, race IS an issue within Islam. In Islam, there is a real pecking order, with Arabs on top. Lots of internal stresses that can be and should be addressed and exploited. Even mixed Arabs are down a notch or two (see Ghaddifi's complaints to be a "player").

Every now and than little nuggets of information bubble to the surface and I am glad that I no longer frequent that blog. May they choke on their own excrement.

I picture Dymphna writing this crap dressed in some sort of military inspired garb. Sounds nutty and dangerous.

Good Evening Lizards! Yes, it was another glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

So, how are you-all today? (is that OT?)

Dymphna needs to start praying to his patron for intercession.

re: #12 wanumba

Cheap shot.

However, race IS an issue within Islam. In Islam, there is a real pecking order, with Arabs on top. Lots of internal stresses that can be and should be addressed and exploited. Even mixed Arabs are down a notch or two (see Ghaddifi's complaints to be a "player").

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Imagine that.

The dogs piss on the hydrant that may someday save them from the fire.

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

Why do these people always sound like they're quoting "Mein Kampf"?

Generations, "blood", resistance, fighting, et cetera. Real Nazi language - you know, the dirty phrases that imply that fighting, race, and reproduction are interlinked.

It's a little creepy, no?

They sound to me like the jihadis they want to destroy.

re: #16 formercorpsman

Umm, he is a she. Gates of Vienna has the bloggers Baron Bioddesy and his wife Dymphna.

/used to frequent there a lot before the WN blow out.

Oh the depressing perils of being a NOOB to LGF.

Would someone care to enlighten me as to who this Dymphanarama is?

**kicking stones longingly**

Off-topic:

Looks like the Obama campaign's out making promises again!

re: #20 BlueCanuck

You are correct.

I forgot.

I still stand by my assertion.

If I were a poster on GOV I might post the Barney song.

What was classy in that post was the way Spencer handled himself. He's a way nicer guy than me.

In America it's not an insult to make money for providing expertise.

OT
O'Reily is so dumb on economics. I mean really stupid.

re: #24 song_and_dance_man

You mean?
"I Hate You!
You Hate Me!
Let's hang Barney from a Tree!"

I'm telling you guys, this is a real problem in Europe. I've been dealing with these people since the start of my career in 2000. It's like a European pandemic. Is it everybody in Europe? Of course not. I wouldn't know about LGF issues if it wasn't for a British dude. But it's a big problem.

re: #22 RememberSekhmet?

Off-topic:

Looks like the Obama campaign's out making promises again!

One of the items says "OBAMA WILL HELP YOU PREPARE YOUR TAX RETURNS." That's what frightens me.

re: #22 RememberSekhmet?

OBAMA WILL FIND THE RIGHT CELL PHONE PLAN FOR ME. Maybe then I won't be so bitter.

re: #7 JHWSan Diego?
/Hollywood Marine

As a Jew, I am glad that there are people like Charles and my fellow lizards that show the danger of one group who wants to kill me (the Moslems), without supporting other groups with the same goal (white supremacists).

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

Why do these people always sound like they're quoting "Mein Kampf"?

Because the people they're hanging out with are brownshirts?

(What do I win?)

Was that even coherent? It's like a text version of an Oreo cookie missing it's creamy filling.

and Spencer's rebuttal (below) is SOOOO classy. The man is a hero and if Dymphna cannot see beyond the pale of her own self-aggrandized view, then SHE is the one who loses out on the affiliation with one of America's truly great patriots.

"Your implication that I am only in this for the money is as false as it is unkind. If I were in this for the money I rather think I could find something to do that would earn me more money and get me fewer death threats.

And in reality, no, I wasn't always paid for those speaking engagements. But if you choose to think of me as a mercenary, that's your affair.

Second, your distinction between those of the "first generation" who are merely "watching" -- me -- and those of the "second generation" who are acting -- like Rep. Myrick -- is likewise one that I must respectfully reject. Actually what she has done is no different from what I do, except that she has a larger audience: she has called attention to a problem, and called for it to be solved. That is what I do. I have the utmost respect for her, I have met with her, and I have told her office that I am at her service if I can be of any help. I have also led a seminar with Stephen Coughlin at the FBI, and neither he nor Myrick ever gave me the impression that they regarded what I was doing as obsolete or inadequate in comparison to what they are doing. But perhaps they were just being kind -- I am sure you know better in this regard.

In any case, I am proud to lend my paltry efforts to assist them, and beg your indulgence in allowing me to do so, as patently useless as what I am doing may indeed be.

And finally and most importantly, the question is not whether or not our allies are "lily pure." The question is whether or not we are, after all, fighting for the same thing. That is a question abundantly worth asking, and answering.

Cordially
Robert Spencer"

re: #30 Gearhead

One of the items says "OBAMA WILL HELP YOU PREPARE YOUR TAX RETURNS." That's what frightens me.

How much did you make?
Send it in.
You made more than that, come out with your hands up.

re: #13 BlueCanuck
I used to like it too.

re: #26 snowcrash

In America it's not an insult to make money for providing expertise.

And Dymphna should know that, since she's posting from "the foothills of the blue ridge mountains."

re: #25 wong fei hung

What was classy in that post was the way Spencer handled himself. He's a way nicer guy than me.

That's what struck me the most, too. Classy, intelligent, and to the point.

re: #33 Kosh's Shadow

here here. precisely stated.

re: #31 HelloDare

OBAMA WILL FIND THE RIGHT CELL PHONE PLAN FOR ME. Maybe then I won't be so bitter.

Very special plan that allows the government to monitor your every move.
In Obama's US, cell phone watches you.

re: #32 Rancher

With her rhetoric she`d better go hard core, maybe Airborne-Sniper-LRRP-SEAL, they can make an all-in-one package for her. Springtime in Afghanistan should be lovely.

If one is not particular about who is fighting by their side, they may in time find themselves attacked by those who were supposedly guarding their flank. As our nation has too often learned to it's dismay, picking your allies is as important as identifying your enemies. A "neutral" as an ally is an ally of your enemy. Europe will never learn.

re: #27 pat

OT
O'Reily is so dumb on economics. I mean really stupid.

It boggles him completely.

re: #35 philosoteric

Was that even coherent? It's like a text version of an Oreo cookie missing it's creamy filling.

And that, my friend, is as low as it gets! :D

re: #35 philosoteric

It's kind of a conversation spread over 3 blogs (LGF, Jihad Watch, and GoV). GoV readers and BNP supporters were attacking Robert for speaking out against racist politics over at Jihad Watch. It looks like Dymphana and Baron have made it clear which side if the fence they're going to sit on.

Things are evolving and there is no time to waste.

In other words- don't think about the consequences of making euro-nationalists our allies- let us cut off our nose to spite our face. That they're using us to make themselves politically viable shouldn't matter, so long as we defeat the islamists by any means necessary. That they would turn on us afterwards shouldn't cross our minds.

Things are evolving and there is no time to waste.

Except that your idea of evolving has little to do with what we believe is evolving. You have a wrong headed approach. We can't become one in this great conflict just because we have a common enemy while your idea of how to deal with it borrows from the enemy we wish to defeat.

Cling to extremism and you will get your fill of it. From within and without.

Finding friends is not so easy when one becomes no better than the enemy in its ideology.

re: #43 JHW
Sniper? She ain't that nuts.

re: #37 Kosh's Shadow

Here's what I sent in as a suggestion: "Obama will stick his ass up in the air five times a day and pray toward Mecca."

re: #39 jaunte

Oh, sorry. She sounded like someone who thinks getting paid somehow taints the process. Wrong of me to assume it was a European vs American.

re: #36 LeonidasOfSparta

Agreed. I pissed him off the other day about this very topic but the man's a class act.

re: #45 stevieray

It boggles him completely.

Seriously. You would think he would have worked on that long ago. I watch O'Reily, but I can't admit to being a huge fan of him intellectually. I've had a similar experience with Hannity. Their great redeeming quality, though: they are not Olberman.

re: #52 snowcrash

Oh, no problem. I stuck that in there because some folks in the past have been misled by the 'Vienna' part of their name.

re: #12 wanumba

Cheap shot.

However, race IS an issue within Islam. In Islam, there is a real pecking order, with Arabs on top. Lots of internal stresses that can be and should be addressed and exploited. Even mixed Arabs are down a notch or two (see Ghaddifi's complaints to be a "player").

Let the islamists fight their own racist fight. I'm not anti-jihad because of the skin color or ethnicity of islamists. I'm anti-jihad because it's the opposite of what I believe in and stand for- the ideals of Freedom and Equality. "Oddly" enough- the euro-fascists don't believe in these ideals either.

re: #53 Killgore Trout

between Spencer and Michael Yon I just bust my buttons knowing that these men have laid it ALL on the line for freedom and America; and to hear that kook at GoV talk to and about Spencer that way just shows what a miserable load she's trying to peddle.

GO SPENCER!

Sound and fury signifying nothing.

/pikers, bush league bloggers, all hat, not a smidgen of cattle, at least Atlas sticks her neck out once in a while

Realwest just sent me an email that he can't connect to LGF. Anyone else having problems?

re: #54 BGOH

Seriously. You would think he would have worked on that long ago. I watch O'Reily, but I can't admit to being a huge fan of him intellectually. I've had a similar experience with Hannity. Their great redeeming quality, though: they are not Olberman.

They both need to hire an economist or two as production assistants. Some to help write copy that actually makes sense. It would be money well spent.

re: #22 RememberSekhmet?

Off-topic:

Looks like the Obama campaign's out making promises again!

Did you see this one?

re: #55 jaunte
Thanks, I did.

This is an ideological battle- not a race battle and the euro-fascists are the other side of the same coin as the islamists. I'll pass, thanks.

re: #58 Killian Bundy

indeed all hat and no cattle says it nicely.

Does this mean they endorse that new Red State bumpersticker?

F*ck it, McCain '08

Parenthetically, those of you visiting from DKOS who think LGF regulars are a bunch of bloodthirsty Nazis may find this discussion rather disorienting. Real carefully, and you'll find there is a difference between those who you reflexively call Nazis and the real thing.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Realwest just sent me an email that he can't connect to LGF. Anyone else having problems?

Well, yes... All of us here

/s

Didn't we side with Stalin to defeat Hitler? Any comparison? Do the ends justify the means? Does politics make strange bedfellows? Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

/WTF?

There is a profundity to this distinction that WILL prove history-making. Robert and Charles may be the avant garde of this defining and I really hope that people are paying attention.

Per Spencer:

3. This approach hamstrings and marginalizes the anti-jihad movement. Many people who oppose the Islamization of Europe will never join with a race-based party to do so. Hugh Fitzgerald and I have often commented here over the years about the tragedy in Europe: the mainstream political parties have completely abdicated any responsibility to deal with the Islamization of Europe, thus leaving the field open to groups that obscure the issue with racial politics.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Realwest just sent me an email that he can't connect to LGF. Anyone else having problems?

Nope. Just opened a new tab and connected to LGF smooth as a hepcat in a jazz bar.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Realwest just sent me an email that he can't connect to LGF. Anyone else having problems?

There are no issues with the servers. Everything is running very well right now.

He must be having a local connection problem.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

No, but PJ Media page is a little wierd.

re: #65 Meremortal

Does this mean they endorse that new Red State bumpersticker?

F*ck it, McCain '08

Saw a bumper sticker on a Prius a few hours ago:
Cheney/Satan '08

Thank heaven I don't have laser guided missiles.

Is the GOV significant?

They had their day in the sun when F-man decided to bow out before the really important issues arose. B. Hussein, Cackle and ID.

Charles, you are here . . .Can we have a "BOOK" category in the linkys --someday--please?

/ooooh, sorry, too early for OT?