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Gates of Vienna Attacks Robert Spencer

Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:21:58 pm PDT

Following Robert Spencer’s post about the need for the anti-jihad movement to reject white nationalists and racialists, fascist sympathizer Dymphna of Gates of Vienna launches an amazingly sleazy attack on Spencer in the comments to his post: Jihad Watch: Why the anti-jihad resistance is not about race.

Mr. Spencer:

That is an impressive list of speaking engagements. I would presume you were paid some fee for speaking and travel expenses for each of these venues? There is nothing dishonorable in that; a man must support himself and his family. If he has some expertise in an area that people want to hear about, then student activity fees will fund speeches.

Those who have chosen to join organizations to meet and plan ways to effectively counter the jihadists in the West also pay speakers for their time and travel. But that is an expense on top of our own travel costs. We do this just because we know it is vital that *someone* do something beyond merely “watch.”

The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

...

If we have to wait for our allies to be lily-pure, then we can’t even support our own political parties when they leave people like Senator Byrd firmly in place. Just to name one.

It is fine for the first generation to stick with first generation activities. But the duty of the second generation in this conflict is to actively resist. Whether they have the blessing of the first generation theorists or not, they will continue to meet, to plan, and to act.

Things are evolving and there is no time to waste.

Classy.

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1 Powderfinger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:23:49pm

All that's missing is a coherent point.

2 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:24:06pm

Charles, check the reports. Thanos found something very interesting (and related) at Brussels Journal.

3 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:24:14pm

Waffles

4 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:25:47pm

Fjordman's sock puppet?

5 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:26:48pm
The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

Wow. So that's what it takes to be noticed by the FBI.

6 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:28:29pm
If we have to wait for our allies to be lily-pure, then we can't even support our own political parties when they leave people like Senator Byrd firmly in place. Just to name one.

It is fine for the first generation to stick with first generation activities. But the duty of the second generation in this conflict is to actively resist. Whether they have the blessing of the first generation theorists or not, they will continue to meet, to plan, and to act.

Things are evolving and there is no time to waste.

They are going to wind up in jail for attacking Muslims. This is s threat that should be taken seriously.

7 JHW  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:29:02pm
The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.


So, are the GOV people enlisting. is it going to be Ft. Benning or is it Parris Island?

8 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:30:11pm

unfortunately,these people will continue to use the legitimate fight against the jihadi punks to further their own ignoble agenda..good on us for refusing to get sucked in and for recognizing the least common denominator,which they surely are..I have real scars on my body from fighting against racism in my presence,I'll be damned before I fight alonside this lot..

9 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:30:14pm

Mr Spencer retorts....

And finally and most importantly, the question is not whether or not our allies are "lily pure." The question is whether or not we are, after all, fighting for the same thing. That is a question abundantly worth asking, and answering.


Robert rules!

10 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:30:34pm
11 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:30:35pm
The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

Why do these people always sound like they're quoting "Mein Kampf"?

Generations, "blood", resistance, fighting, et cetera. Real Nazi language - you know, the dirty phrases that imply that fighting, race, and reproduction are interlinked.

It's a little creepy, no?

12 wanumba  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:30:35pm

Cheap shot.

However, race IS an issue within Islam. In Islam, there is a real pecking order, with Arabs on top. Lots of internal stresses that can be and should be addressed and exploited. Even mixed Arabs are down a notch or two (see Ghaddifi's complaints to be a "player").

13 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:30:37pm

Every now and than little nuggets of information bubble to the surface and I am glad that I no longer frequent that blog. May they choke on their own excrement.

14 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:30:53pm

I picture Dymphna writing this crap dressed in some sort of military inspired garb. Sounds nutty and dangerous.

15 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:32:05pm

Good Evening Lizards! Yes, it was another glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

So, how are you-all today? (is that OT?)

16 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:32:21pm

Dymphna needs to start praying to his patron for intercession.

17 Macker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:32:25pm

re: #12 wanumba

Cheap shot.

However, race IS an issue within Islam. In Islam, there is a real pecking order, with Arabs on top. Lots of internal stresses that can be and should be addressed and exploited. Even mixed Arabs are down a notch or two (see Ghaddifi's complaints to be a "player").

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Imagine that.

18 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:32:34pm
19 Gearhead  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:34:06pm

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

Why do these people always sound like they're quoting "Mein Kampf"?

Generations, "blood", resistance, fighting, et cetera. Real Nazi language - you know, the dirty phrases that imply that fighting, race, and reproduction are interlinked.

It's a little creepy, no?

They sound to me like the jihadis they want to destroy.

20 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:34:10pm

re: #16 formercorpsman

Umm, he is a she. Gates of Vienna has the bloggers Baron Bioddesy and his wife Dymphna.

/used to frequent there a lot before the WN blow out.

21 BGOH  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:35:16pm

Oh the depressing perils of being a NOOB to LGF.

Would someone care to enlighten me as to who this Dymphanarama is?

**kicking stones longingly**

22 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:35:49pm

Off-topic:

Looks like the Obama campaign's out making promises again!

23 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:35:58pm

re: #20 BlueCanuck

You are correct.

I forgot.

I still stand by my assertion.

24 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:35:58pm
25 wong fei hung  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:36:30pm

What was classy in that post was the way Spencer handled himself. He's a way nicer guy than me.

26 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:36:39pm

In America it's not an insult to make money for providing expertise.

27 pat  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:37:55pm

OT
O'Reily is so dumb on economics. I mean really stupid.

28 Macker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:38:06pm

re: #24 song_and_dance_man

You mean?
"I Hate You!
You Hate Me!
Let's hang Barney from a Tree!"

29 eff plus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:38:25pm

I'm telling you guys, this is a real problem in Europe. I've been dealing with these people since the start of my career in 2000. It's like a European pandemic. Is it everybody in Europe? Of course not. I wouldn't know about LGF issues if it wasn't for a British dude. But it's a big problem.

30 Gearhead  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:38:34pm

re: #22 RememberSekhmet?

Off-topic:

Looks like the Obama campaign's out making promises again!

One of the items says "OBAMA WILL HELP YOU PREPARE YOUR TAX RETURNS." That's what frightens me.

31 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:38:52pm

re: #22 RememberSekhmet?

OBAMA WILL FIND THE RIGHT CELL PHONE PLAN FOR ME. Maybe then I won't be so bitter.

32 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:40:13pm

re: #7 JHWSan Diego?
/Hollywood Marine

33 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:41:52pm

As a Jew, I am glad that there are people like Charles and my fellow lizards that show the danger of one group who wants to kill me (the Moslems), without supporting other groups with the same goal (white supremacists).

34 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:41:59pm

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

Why do these people always sound like they're quoting "Mein Kampf"?

Because the people they're hanging out with are brownshirts?

(What do I win?)

35 philosoteric  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:42:11pm

Was that even coherent? It's like a text version of an Oreo cookie missing it's creamy filling.

36 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:42:41pm

and Spencer's rebuttal (below) is SOOOO classy. The man is a hero and if Dymphna cannot see beyond the pale of her own self-aggrandized view, then SHE is the one who loses out on the affiliation with one of America's truly great patriots.

"Your implication that I am only in this for the money is as false as it is unkind. If I were in this for the money I rather think I could find something to do that would earn me more money and get me fewer death threats.

And in reality, no, I wasn't always paid for those speaking engagements. But if you choose to think of me as a mercenary, that's your affair.

Second, your distinction between those of the "first generation" who are merely "watching" -- me -- and those of the "second generation" who are acting -- like Rep. Myrick -- is likewise one that I must respectfully reject. Actually what she has done is no different from what I do, except that she has a larger audience: she has called attention to a problem, and called for it to be solved. That is what I do. I have the utmost respect for her, I have met with her, and I have told her office that I am at her service if I can be of any help. I have also led a seminar with Stephen Coughlin at the FBI, and neither he nor Myrick ever gave me the impression that they regarded what I was doing as obsolete or inadequate in comparison to what they are doing. But perhaps they were just being kind -- I am sure you know better in this regard.

In any case, I am proud to lend my paltry efforts to assist them, and beg your indulgence in allowing me to do so, as patently useless as what I am doing may indeed be.

And finally and most importantly, the question is not whether or not our allies are "lily pure." The question is whether or not we are, after all, fighting for the same thing. That is a question abundantly worth asking, and answering.

Cordially
Robert Spencer"

37 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:43:02pm

re: #30 Gearhead

One of the items says "OBAMA WILL HELP YOU PREPARE YOUR TAX RETURNS." That's what frightens me.

How much did you make?
Send it in.
You made more than that, come out with your hands up.

38 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:43:08pm

re: #13 BlueCanuck
I used to like it too.

39 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:43:16pm

re: #26 snowcrash

In America it's not an insult to make money for providing expertise.

And Dymphna should know that, since she's posting from "the foothills of the blue ridge mountains."

40 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:43:20pm

re: #25 wong fei hung

What was classy in that post was the way Spencer handled himself. He's a way nicer guy than me.

That's what struck me the most, too. Classy, intelligent, and to the point.

41 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:43:22pm

re: #33 Kosh's Shadow

here here. precisely stated.

42 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:44:07pm

re: #31 HelloDare

OBAMA WILL FIND THE RIGHT CELL PHONE PLAN FOR ME. Maybe then I won't be so bitter.

Very special plan that allows the government to monitor your every move.
In Obama's US, cell phone watches you.

43 JHW  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:44:11pm

re: #32 Rancher

With her rhetoric she`d better go hard core, maybe Airborne-Sniper-LRRP-SEAL, they can make an all-in-one package for her. Springtime in Afghanistan should be lovely.

44 gymnast  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:44:25pm

If one is not particular about who is fighting by their side, they may in time find themselves attacked by those who were supposedly guarding their flank. As our nation has too often learned to it's dismay, picking your allies is as important as identifying your enemies. A "neutral" as an ally is an ally of your enemy. Europe will never learn.

45 stevieray  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:44:35pm

re: #27 pat

OT
O'Reily is so dumb on economics. I mean really stupid.

It boggles him completely.

46 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:45:23pm

re: #35 philosoteric

Was that even coherent? It's like a text version of an Oreo cookie missing it's creamy filling.

And that, my friend, is as low as it gets! :D

47 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:45:36pm

re: #35 philosoteric

It's kind of a conversation spread over 3 blogs (LGF, Jihad Watch, and GoV). GoV readers and BNP supporters were attacking Robert for speaking out against racist politics over at Jihad Watch. It looks like Dymphana and Baron have made it clear which side if the fence they're going to sit on.

48 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:46:19pm
Things are evolving and there is no time to waste.

In other words- don't think about the consequences of making euro-nationalists our allies- let us cut off our nose to spite our face. That they're using us to make themselves politically viable shouldn't matter, so long as we defeat the islamists by any means necessary. That they would turn on us afterwards shouldn't cross our minds.

49 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:46:34pm
50 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:47:10pm

re: #43 JHW
Sniper? She ain't that nuts.

51 Macker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:47:20pm

re: #37 Kosh's Shadow

Here's what I sent in as a suggestion: "Obama will stick his ass up in the air five times a day and pray toward Mecca."

52 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:47:25pm

re: #39 jaunte

Oh, sorry. She sounded like someone who thinks getting paid somehow taints the process. Wrong of me to assume it was a European vs American.

53 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:47:26pm

re: #36 LeonidasOfSparta

Agreed. I pissed him off the other day about this very topic but the man's a class act.

54 BGOH  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:48:06pm

re: #45 stevieray

It boggles him completely.

Seriously. You would think he would have worked on that long ago. I watch O'Reily, but I can't admit to being a huge fan of him intellectually. I've had a similar experience with Hannity. Their great redeeming quality, though: they are not Olberman.

55 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:48:49pm

re: #52 snowcrash

Oh, no problem. I stuck that in there because some folks in the past have been misled by the 'Vienna' part of their name.

56 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:49:02pm

re: #12 wanumba

Cheap shot.

However, race IS an issue within Islam. In Islam, there is a real pecking order, with Arabs on top. Lots of internal stresses that can be and should be addressed and exploited. Even mixed Arabs are down a notch or two (see Ghaddifi's complaints to be a "player").

Let the islamists fight their own racist fight. I'm not anti-jihad because of the skin color or ethnicity of islamists. I'm anti-jihad because it's the opposite of what I believe in and stand for- the ideals of Freedom and Equality. "Oddly" enough- the euro-fascists don't believe in these ideals either.

57 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:50:11pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

between Spencer and Michael Yon I just bust my buttons knowing that these men have laid it ALL on the line for freedom and America; and to hear that kook at GoV talk to and about Spencer that way just shows what a miserable load she's trying to peddle.

GO SPENCER!

58 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:50:24pm

Sound and fury signifying nothing.

/pikers, bush league bloggers, all hat, not a smidgen of cattle, at least Atlas sticks her neck out once in a while

59 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:50:45pm

Realwest just sent me an email that he can't connect to LGF. Anyone else having problems?

60 stevieray  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:00pm

re: #54 BGOH

Seriously. You would think he would have worked on that long ago. I watch O'Reily, but I can't admit to being a huge fan of him intellectually. I've had a similar experience with Hannity. Their great redeeming quality, though: they are not Olberman.

They both need to hire an economist or two as production assistants. Some to help write copy that actually makes sense. It would be money well spent.

61 Opilio  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:03pm

re: #22 RememberSekhmet?

Off-topic:

Looks like the Obama campaign's out making promises again!

Did you see this one?

62 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:03pm

re: #55 jaunte
Thanks, I did.

63 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:04pm

This is an ideological battle- not a race battle and the euro-fascists are the other side of the same coin as the islamists. I'll pass, thanks.

64 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:16pm

re: #58 Killian Bundy

indeed all hat and no cattle says it nicely.

65 Meremortal  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:17pm

Does this mean they endorse that new Red State bumpersticker?

F*ck it, McCain '08

66 Gearhead  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:30pm

Parenthetically, those of you visiting from DKOS who think LGF regulars are a bunch of bloodthirsty Nazis may find this discussion rather disorienting. Real carefully, and you'll find there is a difference between those who you reflexively call Nazis and the real thing.

67 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:37pm
68 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:51:47pm

Didn't we side with Stalin to defeat Hitler? Any comparison? Do the ends justify the means? Does politics make strange bedfellows? Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

/WTF?

69 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:52:25pm

There is a profundity to this distinction that WILL prove history-making. Robert and Charles may be the avant garde of this defining and I really hope that people are paying attention.

Per Spencer:

3. This approach hamstrings and marginalizes the anti-jihad movement. Many people who oppose the Islamization of Europe will never join with a race-based party to do so. Hugh Fitzgerald and I have often commented here over the years about the tragedy in Europe: the mainstream political parties have completely abdicated any responsibility to deal with the Islamization of Europe, thus leaving the field open to groups that obscure the issue with racial politics.
70 stevieray  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:53:35pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Realwest just sent me an email that he can't connect to LGF. Anyone else having problems?

Nope. Just opened a new tab and connected to LGF smooth as a hepcat in a jazz bar.

71 Charles  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:53:44pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Realwest just sent me an email that he can't connect to LGF. Anyone else having problems?

There are no issues with the servers. Everything is running very well right now.

He must be having a local connection problem.

72 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:53:57pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

No, but PJ Media page is a little wierd.

73 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:55:02pm

re: #65 Meremortal

Does this mean they endorse that new Red State bumpersticker?

F*ck it, McCain '08

Saw a bumper sticker on a Prius a few hours ago:
Cheney/Satan '08

Thank heaven I don't have laser guided missiles.

74 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:55:20pm
75 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:55:57pm

Charles, you are here . . .Can we have a "BOOK" category in the linkys --someday--please?

/ooooh, sorry, too early for OT?

76 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:56:32pm

re: #71 Charles


Charles, I never knew there were nitrogen chambers beneath DIA-- but those "Madonna brasierre" roof peaks should have been a dead giveaway.

:)

77 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:57:35pm

re: #73 HelloDare

F*ck it, McCain '08


OMG, (good stock pick BTW),LMAO!
I want one.

78 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:57:49pm

re: #33 Kosh's Shadow

As a Jew, I am glad that there are people like Charles and my fellow lizards that show the danger of one group who wants to kill me (the Moslems), without supporting other groups with the same goal (white supremacists).

Huh?!?

Nobody here at LGF supports The Republicans, anymore?

When did this happen?

/please excuse me. I've been traveling...

~ENT

79 badsysop  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:58:26pm

CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

80 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:59:09pm
The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

What a hot-head. She's done talking- she wants action now, so it's not enough to continue to enlighten people to what it is we're really facing. No- in her mind it's better to attract violent racists to act out on her fantasies of sweeping islam out of europe and the west- and the sooner they begin, the better in her mind.

81 gman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:59:34pm
The watching part of the fight is no longer the central point. As people develop expertise and learn to ignore the nay-sayers, the second generation of fighters is coming along.

... and of course Dymphna is part of this active second generation of fighters.

If you call sitting on a throne at the base of the Blue Ridge Mountains active.

Oooooh! The jihadis are running scared Dymphna!

82 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 8:59:53pm
83 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:00:20pm

re: #81 gman

and if she wants to lay down with dogs, she'll get up with fleas

84 Meremortal  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:00:49pm

re: #73 HelloDare

Saw a bumper sticker on a Prius a few hours ago:
Cheney/Satan '08

Thank heaven I don't have laser guided missiles.


----------------

On a Prius?

Just use a flyswatter.

85 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:01:13pm

re: #81 gman

They want a brute squad so they don't have to get their hands dirty.

86 Fo knee ix  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:01:48pm

I came across GOV earlier when I discovered the blogosphere and noticed that there was something a bit off about the contributors, i.e. a somewhat repetitive and reactionary tone similar to Lionheart. I think Yoda said it best with the whole 'anger clouds judgement, leads to fear,' trope.

87 TheWasteLand  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:02:32pm

re: #69 Sol Roth

I wish the Europeans would get this. I really do. By failing to fight an Islamic flavor of fascism, they open the door to the older flavor of fascism.

88 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:02:33pm

re: #71 Charles

Thanks, I'll let him know.

89 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:02:43pm

The trash dymphna writes practically makes paul belien's desk look clean.

90 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:02:52pm
91 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:03:34pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

No problems in Mpls - and I'm on Comcast.

Actually, they've been pretty good, connection-wise.

92 gman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:04:27pm

re: #85 Sharmuta

They want a brute squad so they don't have to get their hands dirty.

The only thing she has to touch with her white gloves is the true believer apps.

93 Gearhead  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:04:52pm

re: #91 Noam Sayin'

Is there still a pub called "Brits" up there?

94 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:05:12pm

re: #85 Sharmuta

I got your brute squad right here

95 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:05:17pm

re: #82 song_and_dance_man

Your postings have become strange as of late.
/

96 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:05:54pm

re: #84 Meremortal

----------------

On a Prius?

Just use a flyswatter.

Why bother. Satan is voting democrat anyway. Having a devil of a time choosing between Obama and Hillary.

97 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:05:57pm

The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, or ally. American's will never side with white-supremicists, something Europe will never understand, they haven't lost the blood we have over the issue.

I was in Gettysburg earlier this year, at one point the guide told us that the place were standing was the place that 4000 men died. All white men.

We take freedom very seriously.

98 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:07:03pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

If I can do it with no problem? Seriously, all is well.

99 Opilio  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:07:05pm

re: #90 song_and_dance_man

Good thing they didn't go with a Hai Karate squad.

Ah. Hai Karate. The Axe of the 70's.

100 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:07:38pm

Let's bet down to brass tacks. Just where does a [expletive deleted] anonymous, minor blogger, calling it self Dymphna, get off dissing Robert Spencer?

/the fervent, yet cowardly, arrogance is truly staggering

101 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:08:22pm

re: #7 JHW

So, are the GOV people enlisting. is it going to be Ft. Benning or is it Parris Island?

i doubt either one would have them........... they'd certainly have no place in the Army i served in.

/Ft Benning B-9-2 4/82

102 Meremortal  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:09:29pm

re: #96 HelloDare

Why bother. Satan is voting democrat anyway. Having a devil of a time choosing between Obama and Hillary.

Good one.

103 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:09:56pm
104 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:14:15pm

re: #97 ggt
Not everyone who fought in the Confederacy was a white supremacist or fought for slavery. Many were fighting for their rats.

105 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:14:38pm

re: #86 Fo knee ix

Yoda's best line about that subject:

"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

We see this in the end result of giving in to fascism, nazism and islamism- the suffering people have come under because of these ideologies is staggering, and that anyone would continue to see them as a viable option for happiness in life or an improved society just goes to show what a messed up mind the "thinker" is.

106 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:14:48pm

re: #93 Gearhead

Is there still a pub called "Brits" up there?

Yep.

107 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:16:49pm

re: #105 Sharmuta
Add Communism.

108 Gearhead  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:17:16pm

re: #106 Noam Sayin'

Yep.

Gotta get back up there some time. That town is heaven for beer snobs.

109 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:19:04pm

Realwest wishes all Lizards a good night.

110 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:19:16pm

re: #103 song_and_dance_man

Freudian slip?

111 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:20:55pm

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Goodnight back to realwest; hope he can join in tomorrow.

112 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:21:06pm
113 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:21:33pm

re: #101 redc1c4

Thank you for your service!

114 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:21:51pm

re: #101 redc1c4+

Have you figured out your clerical problem?

/green flag

115 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:22:33pm

It's a moment like this that makes me glad I took Gates of Vienna off my blogroll.

Next thing you know, she'll be going on about "black ops" by Belgian Intelligence.

116 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:22:51pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh suck off!

117 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:23:40pm

re: #107 Rancher

Add Communism.

I thought about that after I clicked "post"- you're exactly right.

118 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:24:22pm

re: #104 Rancher

You are right. My point was that American's were and are willing to give their lives for someone else's freedom. It is a part of our heritage --something Europe does not share to the same depth.

119 Fo knee ix  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:26:42pm

re: #105 Sharmuta

Exactly. I couldn't recall the Yoda quote verbatim, but the little green man (thing? football? lizard!) certainly ranks up among the top philosophers of the 20th century.

GoV makes the same mistakes as liberals who deny terrorism is a problem (or even real), in that they group things into immutable classes. If you'll bear with my semi-drunken logic: GoV says that Muslim terrorists aren't white, thus worthy of scorn on that basis alone; Liberals say that Muslim terrorists are a)responding to American foreign policy or b)on par with Christian extremists. GoV delineates White/Other, Liberals delineate Oppressor/Oppressed.

I could flesh this idea out, but its too late, too may hoegaartens.

120 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:27:08pm

re: #100 Killian Bundy

I was going to mention free speech, but I read your post again

I don't know how or where they get off -- I just quit hitting their blog. I have no intention of helping them get off on anything.

/ggt's poor attempt at humor.

121 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:27:40pm

re: #118 ggt

You are right. My point was that American's were and are willing to give their lives for someone else's freedom. It is a part of our heritage --something Europe does not share to the same depth.

That is a telling point. And WWII, where we lost so many fighting for European freedom, would be at the top of the list.

122 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:29:18pm

re: #108 Gearhead

Gotta get back up there some time. That town is heaven for beer snobs.

True dat. Let me know when you're coming. We'll go snob some beers.

123 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:30:06pm

re: #118 ggtThey are truly screwed, especially France.

124 Gearhead  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:30:16pm

re: #122 Noam Sayin'

True dat. Let me know when you're coming. We'll go snob some beers.

No immediate plans, but when it happens, you're on.

125 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:30:50pm
126 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:31:26pm
127 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:32:04pm

re: #119 Fo knee ix

The problem is the liberals equate being anti-jihad as being racist. Meanwhile- the crypto-fascists give the liberals the justification to call anti-jihadis "racist". Both groups are hung up on the race, not bothering to notice this is an ideological battle.

128 Aisha  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:33:22pm

Salaams, Jews.

In the Congo, the kufrs are lyinching each other for stealing male-front-private-parts.

Lynchings in Congo as penis theft panic hits capital

Oh Allah! The kufr are stupid! Everyone knows that it is the Jews from the Zionist Entity who steal male-front-private-parts, and they only do that to Palestinians, when they are persecuting them. They use the severed male private parts to tie the Palestinian children to the front of tanks in Palestine, kufrs!

Allahu Ahkbar!

129 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:34:04pm

re: #126 song_and_dance_man

Find me a job.

130 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:34:19pm

re: #104 Rancher

If I understand correctly, State's Rights were damaged severly as a result of the Civil War. Then again with the Civil Rights act. I understand the argument -- yet have a hard time supporting a "State's Right" to subjugate a human being for greed or hate. It's sad that the Federal Government had to step in at all.

I got really angry at No Child Left Behind and mandated standardized testing. Then I remembered that when left up to States and Local municipalities --education was horribly unequal. I blame it on greed, corruption and hate (I think it still runs rampant in the public school systems --but that is another subject). At least with Federal oversight each child has a better chance than they do with the NEA alone.

It's a H@ll of a situation. I think we will fight the collectivist/individualist battle for the rest of our national existence.

131 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:34:59pm

re: #128 Aisha

LMAO!

132 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:35:38pm

re: #128 Aisha

G-d help us! Aisha is back!

teehee

133 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:36:38pm

re: #128 Aisha

You're a day late and a dollar short. The penis thread was last night. :)

134 Gearhead  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:36:57pm

One day, history books will tell of the Great Penis Theft Panic of 2008: "Chaos was averted when The Avenging Tallywhacker took matters into his own hands..."

135 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:37:52pm

re: #133 BlueCanuck

There is a joke in there (dollar short) but d@mn if I can find it.

136 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:38:02pm

re: #116 Rancher

No thanks, not my style. I'm not into doods.
/

137 Fo knee ix  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:38:43pm

re: #127 Sharmuta

I've heard the liberal argument, firsthand, after one acquiesced to the fact that Islam is not a race thus rendering critics of radical Islam as non-racists, per se, that the US and Muslim terrorists, in the context of Iraq are "basically the same." The libs always have some equivalency to fall back on.

In the same breath, there is a sentiment among either the ignorant or the racist that "I don't give a f*ck what happens in the middle east, we should just nuke them all, blah, blah." Both sides are intellectually lazy, it seems.

You're exactly right, though, about the ideological battle space.

138 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:39:07pm

I'm going into iTunes to try to burn a CD --pray for me.

139 Syrah  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:39:39pm

re: #78 EtNorskTroll

In the US, in many states, anyone can take out papers to run for office, choosing their party affiliation without having to get the party's approval to do so.

This is one area where the US would be better served by adopting European custom of having the party involved in who can stand for election under their banner.

140 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:39:43pm

re: #135 ggt

Sometimes a dollar is just a dollar. ;)

/paraphrasing Sigmund Freud

141 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:40:45pm

re: #132 ggt

G-d help us! Aisha is back!

teehee

Uh oh, Operation Chaos has reached LGF!

142 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:41:14pm
143 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:41:19pm

re: #137 Fo knee ix

And you are exactly right, too. Both groups are very intellectually lazy.

144 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:42:44pm

re: #139 Syrah

Canadian system works the same way. First you must belong to the party, membership dues. Next when a riding is open you run against other members looking for the privilege of running for election. Than the other party members vote. Only time it isn't done that way is when the party leader "parachutes" in a supposed rising or super star. Michael Ignattief was a parachute for the last election up here federally.

145 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:43:32pm
146 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:43:54pm

re: #114 Killian Bundy

+

Have you figured out your clerical problem?

/green flag

i have had the issue figured out all along, but other people keep getting things wrong. hard to believe i know, but that's the government for ya....(or any large organization)

it's an ongoing issue, and between the efficiencies of the CA ARNG, the CA state government and my own sense of urgency (i'm not due for anything for more than 10 years) it's just simmering.

i'll gin up yet *another* set of documents and get them headed north in the next few days, since i promised Household 6 i would do so. also, since i'm attending the 1/18th Cav Ball on Saturday with herself, i will make contact with a variety of people who can make sworn statements regarding my presence during the times in question, should the powers that be want to question the copies of the very documents they themselves have access too. sounds strange, i know, but since they've looked at them 3 times so far and haven't seen what's plainly there, what's a cynical experienced person to think?

i am lucky in that i have time, resources, & documents that most Soldiers do *NOT* have access to. that is the reason i feel so strongly about the document storage issue we discussed the other evening.

Scouts Out!

/my last post on the subject

147 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:44:00pm

So, one month to the next second cat.

/seven year old Exotic show cat or two month old (red/white or black/white) 3/4 Exotic, 1/4 alley cat (long story apparently)?

148 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:44:11pm

re: #140 BlueCanuck

LOL

Or your dollar is too teeny weeny?

/I just can't get it right.

149 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:45:03pm

re: #147 Killian Bundy

I don't know, get them both.

150 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:46:00pm

re: #148 ggt

HEY, my dollar is almost as big as your dollar. :)

151 Syrah  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:46:31pm

re: #144 BlueCanuck

That would be an improvement to the system we have here. The Republican Party does not need anymore David Duke's gaming the system, or Tony Zirkle's slipping under the radar.

We need to put an end to this stupidity yesterday.

152 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:46:54pm
153 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:48:18pm

My CD's are burning --first try. I am having a wonderful evening.

/forgive me, I am old and technically challenged --even in iTunes.

154 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:48:47pm

re: #150 BlueCanuck

You wish! --I don't have just one dollar --I have the whole purse.

155 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:49:25pm

re: #146 redc1c4

Scouts Out!

Sworn affidavits should work wonders.

/document retention policy is just a fact nowdays

156 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:49:38pm

re: #139 Syrah

In the US, in many states, anyone can take out papers to run for office, choosing their party affiliation without having to get the party's approval to do so.

This is one area where the US would be better served by adopting European custom of having the party involved in who can stand for election under their banner.

It's kind of nice that anyone can run without having to have a party's approval; but it doesn't seem right that you should be able to be run under the label of a party, however tentatively, without some kind of official scrutiny. It's a dilemma. I'm inclined to think your suggestion is good.....but I'm not sure!

157 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:50:10pm

re: #151 Syrah

Only problem with our system is it takes money to just show up at the starting gate. Never mind running an election. I guess it can be done on the cheap with a lot of volunteers, but not many people with income challenges get into politics these days.

/even the thrice damned socialists known as the NDP

158 Fo knee ix  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:50:11pm

re: #143 Sharmuta

I think this is where the two groups meet: A more subdued liberal trope of the past 7 years has been the frivolity of the Iraq war, namley the "pipie dream" of establishing democracy in a middle eastern, primarily Muslims country, i.e. democracy being fundamentally incompatible with the nature of Iraqi society. GoV types, in overtly racist tones, state that Muslims, namely Iraqis, are incapable of accepting or understanding Democracy. I think Ayaan Hirsi Ali articulated this thought (can't recall when or where), by saying that "We [Muslims] are capable of accepting reason, we are not irrational beings," or something to that effect.

The multiculturalists and the racists agree, albeit the former through the superiority of the other culture, the latter through the superiority of the Insert Race culture.

May be a bit simplistic, reaching for comparisons.

159 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:51:01pm

re: #125 Noam Sayin'

Ooh, boy. Looks like I'm not going to get much scooterin' in tomorrow.

Maybe it will go around us.

null

/like totally dude! %-)

160 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:51:11pm

re: #154 ggt

Must . . . . restrain. . . . self. . . .

161 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:51:23pm

re: #149 ggt

I don't know, get them both.

/two at a time is my only speed

162 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:51:43pm

re: #118 ggt

You are right. My point was that American's were and are willing to give their lives for someone else's freedom. It is a part of our heritage --something Europe does not share to the same depth.

How do you value something you didn't earn?

163 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:52:31pm

re: #153 ggt

My CD's are burning --first try. I am having a wonderful evening.

/forgive me, I am old and technically challenged --even in iTunes.

I wouldn't dare go there without my children's full supervision!
(But then, I can't even master the digital clock. Pathetic.)

164 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:52:34pm

re: #158 Fo knee ix

I think I see your point. The multiculturalists are willing to exert all sorts of resources and pressure to change our society, but are unwilling to do so to change the Middle East.

Pathetic really.

165 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:53:03pm

re: #160 BlueCanuck

why?

166 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:53:27pm

re: #162 Sharmuta

yep!

167 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:53:35pm

re: #128 Aisha

Ah, Aisha! Our resident expert on all things haraam and halal with respect to private parts.

168 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:54:05pm

re: #164 ggt

I think I see your point. The multiculturalists are willing to exert all sorts of resources and pressure to change our society, but are unwilling to do so to change the Middle East.

Pathetic really.

but, but, what our ancestors did to those people was evil colonialism. We must make amends for our great-great-grandfathers evil ways.

/must I continue?

169 Fo knee ix  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:54:29pm

Is it just me, or is there some sort of Freudian, Parent-Child hatred between the left and Karl Rove?

170 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:54:49pm

re: #161 Killian Bundy

I don't know K -- I have a hard time looking into those little eyes and saying "No, only one of you can have a home".

Yes, I have multiple pets, only one of which I actually paid for.

171 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:55:02pm

re: #165 ggt

I have a reputation to uphold. ;)

/LeePro might be lurking

172 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:55:17pm

re: #162 Sharmuta

How do you value something you didn't earn?

(Worth repeating.)

173 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:55:42pm

Hadda helluva time getting in here this evening.

Loooooong slow loading, much refreshing.

===

mymymy...

I see Dymphna just put herself and Baron on the terrorism watch list.

Nice going ya moron.

FIRST RULE
OF
FIGHT CLUB,
R

174 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:56:07pm
175 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:56:31pm

re: #168 BlueCanuck

No, what our grandparents did was bring love and understanding --now we can all sing kumbaya together.

/bleeeehay!

Need I go into a rant about how someone stronger will always be there to take what you have -- it could have been sooooo much worse that Western Colonialism.

176 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:56:53pm

re: #171 BlueCanuck

ah!

177 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:57:25pm

re: #159 redc1c4

Bastard.

We're expecting snow on Friday.

178 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:57:42pm

Oh gosh, I was all smug and happy and how I think there is an iTunes problem. . .

stay tuned.

179 Fo knee ix  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:59:16pm

re: #164 ggt

I think that hits the nail on the head. If you'll pardon a somewhat disconcerting analogy: anorexia tends to stem from a perfectionist mindset, in that "I am not able to live with myself until I am accepted by everyone, my body is unequivocally attractive to everyone, etc," in the same way Liberals think that, " the US is a fundamentally flawed, violent, racist nation, thus imposing our will via force on other nations is fundamentally wrong," approximates the mindset we are dealing with.

180 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:59:37pm

re: #177 Noam Sayin'

Bastard.

We're expecting snow on Friday.

I hear ya, Noam. I pick up my new Harley tomorrow, and it's supposed to rain cats & dogs all weekend. At least it's not snow, but...

181 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 9:59:45pm

re: #175 ggt

Just like that tired old trope that violence never solved anything.

/hmmm Carthage, Zulu's, Roman Empire, and so many more solved.

182 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:00:01pm

Whew, narrowlly averted a crisis -- I learned to read the top bar on iTunes.

Thank you for your patience.

183 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:00:54pm

re: #128 Aisha

Are you going to help me clean my monitor after a major spew?

BTW, Chag Pesach Sameach! ;)

184 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:01:26pm

re: #158 Fo knee ix

I still think they converge at the point of intellectual laziness. In order to understand that this is an ideological battle, they would first have to have a grasp on the ideologies involved- and that takes study- that's hard!

So- the left claims either racism or moral equivalence and leaves it at that because it's easy and conforms with their pre-existing leftist views.

And the crypto-fascists claim we're the moral relativists because to be honest about the ideology they're enabling would require them to take a long, hard look at themselves- and it's easy and conforms with their pre-existing racist views.

185 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:01:33pm

re: #177 Noam Sayin'

We're expecting snow on Friday.

/are you skeered?

186 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:01:39pm

WHOA! I finally got on! Sheesh, Thank You Charles - it musta been something you did that fixed it for me!
Hope everyone is doing well tonight!

187 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:01:55pm
188 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:01:58pm

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Sworn affidavits should work wonders.

/document retention policy is just a fact nowdays

i understand, but an exception should be made for service members, given the number of times they move over a career and the often ephemeral nature of their residence, mandating that they alone are responsible for the maintenance of the records seems harsh. in this day & age of cheap data storage, it seems the least we can do for our best is that we guard their data like they guard us.

189 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:02:59pm

re: #180 Cartman

But who wants to ride in the rain.

I'm already thinking motorcycle. Haven't been on a bike in two decades. I think a couple summers of scooterin' might get me back my senses for cycling.

And northern MN & WI are some beautiful places to ride.

190 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:04:01pm

re: #179 Fo knee ix

Yes, we have to be PERFECT before we can preach to anyone else. With the systemized disavowing of (Judeo-Christian or any Dead White Man's philosophy) religion in our Society, children no longer learn that Perfection is not the goal, nor is it possible.

They learn, it's the "Journey not the Destination" and don't equate that to any real spiritual message that is applicable to daily life.

I could go on about my thoughts on the benefits of Original Sin, but I won't bore you with it. Suffice it to say, if we don't act until we are perfect --someone or nation much less perfect will run us into the ground.

191 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:04:23pm

re: #185 Killian Bundy

/are you skeered?

No. Just pissed off. I've had a dark winter and I'm ready to be rid of it.

192 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:04:35pm

re: #177 Noam Sayin'

Snow? Not fair! We had a nearly snowless winter here..don't tell Albore!

It's supposed to be 80 here tomorrow. Feh.

193 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:04:48pm

re: #189 Noam Sayin'

My sister's hubby got her a Vespa for Christmas. Man, is that thing a blast to tool around on! Darn thing is banana yellow, to boot!

194 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:04:53pm

re: #186 realwest

Welcome! We were worried about you!

195 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:05:24pm

re: #183 NY Nana

That's a keeper. :-)

196 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:06:05pm

Hey Killian, Noam and {ggt} y'all can forget my e-mails!

197 Syrah  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:06:18pm

re: #156 wolfie

It's kind of nice that anyone can run without having to have a party's approval; but it doesn't seem right that you should be able to be run under the label of a party, however tentatively, without some kind of official scrutiny. It's a dilemma. I'm inclined to think your suggestion is good.....but I'm not sure!

I understand your hesitation. We Americans prize our independence. What we also need to remember is that the Party is a valuable asset that needs to be protected from those that would do it harm either by design or by avoidable idiocy.

Anyone can run without a political party's approval. The custom has been for those people who want to run with out a party's approval to run as an "independent." I would not want to change that for nothing. The Party's need the competition, and some times the party's need a good pop in the nose to boot.

What the party's don't need is for some slug like David Duke, or some half-wit like Tony Zirkle to hijack and crap on the party's name and reputation.

The Party's need to be involved in who can run under their name.

198 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:06:20pm

RW's in da house!

199 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:06:30pm

re: #186 realwest

Hey realwest, I thought you were gone for the night!

200 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:07:39pm

re: #194 wolfie

So was I! I'm still having posting problems though.
Hope all of you are ok?!

201 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:08:26pm

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Violence didn't end institutionalized slavery in this country; Violence didn't end the slaughter of Jew's in Europe . . .

For that matter, let's really change reality --orgasm isn't violent; conception isn't violent; birth isn't violent.

oh, and there is no violence in nature:

Large trees don't crowd small trees in forest starving them of sunlight.

New little green radish shoots don't have to fight there way to the surface to get sunlight --the ground lovingly parts and let's it thru.

Dolphin males don't attack and kill other dolphin males . . . . .

I could go on.

202 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:08:47pm

Why is it every time I go to post a comment I get a duplicate comment notice and then voila - five or more posts show up and then my post is suddenly on the thread?!

203 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:09:15pm

re: #195 jaunte

The video? I love it....but it has such a short shelf life. ;)

204 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:09:20pm

Hey Killian, Noam and {ggt} y'all can forget my e-mails! Thank you anyway!

205 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:09:21pm

re: #186 realwest

Hey rw --glad you made it. Ready for tomorrow?

206 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:09:47pm

Well, time to try and get some shuteye.

/good luck with that one, Cartman

G'nite, fellow Lizardia...

207 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:10:10pm

re: #177 Noam Sayin'

Bastard.

We're expecting snow on Friday.

my parents were married: they're Catholics.

/a$$hole w*rks...... %-)

208 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:11:04pm

re: #203 NY Nana

I've put it with my youtube music bookmarks...

209 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:11:06pm

re: #207 redc1c4

Guess that's why you never went to orificer school.

/automatically disqualified. :)

210 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:11:10pm

re: #206 Cartman

G'nite, Cartman. Sweet dreams!

211 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:11:11pm

re: #128 Aisha

Salaams, Jews.

In the Congo, the kufrs are lyinching each other for stealing male-front-private-parts.

Lynchings in Congo as penis theft panic hits capital

Oh Allah! The kufr are stupid! Everyone knows that it is the Jews from the Zionist Entity who steal male-front-private-parts, and they only do that to Palestinians, when they are persecuting them. They use the severed male private parts to tie the Palestinian children to the front of tanks in Palestine, kufrs!

Allahu Ahkbar!

What's more stupid; Men thinking their private parts are being stolen, or people actually cutting out the private parts of women? I'll take the imaginary ones over the beyond stupid real ones.

212 wee fury  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:11:47pm

re: #202 realwest

Why is it every time I go to post a comment I get a duplicate comment notice and then voila - five or more posts show up and then my post is suddenly on the thread?!

There be gremlins mucking up the fields.

213 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:12:04pm

re: #190 ggt

I think it has more to do with a lack of critical thinking skills. Regardless of political affiliation- plenty of people think racism is wrong- because it is. (Some people just pay lip service to it.) But if you can't think critically- you're going to end up with intellectual laziness, and this is what we're seeing from both the left and the crypto-fascists.

214 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:12:09pm

re: #193 Cartman

I'd liked to have bought a Vespa, but six or seven grand is a bit much for something that will get ridden maybe 5 months of the year. Mine only cost $1500. There's a lot of plastic on it, but it was only $1500. Bought it on the innernets, and they delivered it to my door for free - liftgate included.

I got the blue one.

215 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:12:20pm
216 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:12:45pm

re: #188 redc1c4

Hey, ask Realwest while he's here.

/he's military and a lawyer

217 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:14:13pm

re: #191 Noam Sayin'

No. Just pissed off. I've had a dark winter and I'm ready to be rid of it.

so i shouldn't mention that my pool is in the mid-80's?

/boat drinks this weekend! %-)

218 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:14:16pm

re: #213 Sharmuta

Do you want to hear my rant on teaching The Classics (Dead White Men Subjects) in school? The benefits of Latin and Logic?

/no I thought not --I'd be preaching to the choir anyway.

MY kid is learning it, it's really all I can do.

219 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:14:23pm

re: #200 realwest

So was I! I'm still having posting problems though.
Hope all of you are ok?!

Hey RW, is Aiesha for real, or just a fake Moby...

Inquiring minds want to know...

220 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:14:26pm

re: #197 Syrah

It does make sense if you run under their "label," doesn't it? And perhaps in the US, where you have 300+million people and only two major parties, there would be very little danger of criteria being too narrow. (You've got to have a big tent.) But you could screen out the extremists and the nut cases.
I'd like to see some states do this so we can see how it works. I think you have a good argument.

221 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:14:28pm

Well one little interesting factoid - probably very little interest in this, but one of my favorite musicians, Stephen Stills has what I have: Prostate Cancer. Fortunately his is in the early stages and they are going to perform surgery on him on January 8th. I wish him the best.
And I'm wishing the best for me too! My current treatment modality doesn't appear to be working anymore to stop the spread of the cancer - so gotta meet a panel of cancer specialists all day tomorrow and hope they can come up with something, cause surgery won't fix my cancer problems.
Oh. Joy.

222 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:15:57pm

Good Night Lizards. It was an inerstersting day of lurking with the occassional post. Mandy and Babba, Hope to see you on the DT with some awsome tunes.. LoL, kindly save me a (non-spiked) fruit cup in the super secret fridge. May the diety of your choice smile upon you.
And yes, that includes you otingoC.

223 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:15:58pm

re: #200 realwest

We're just kind of relaxing tonight!
No one has served any refreshments yet, though. :(

224 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:16:30pm

re: #207 redc1c4

Duly noted, @$$hole.

re: #204 realwest

Your email didn't upload until about five minutes ago. And you know better than to look for me for tech support.

Glad you made it back, though.

Is there a newbie around to fetch me another beer or do I have to get up?

225 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:17:13pm

re: #202 realwest

Why is it every time I go to post a comment I get a duplicate comment notice and then voila - five or more posts show up and then my post is suddenly on the thread?!

Whoa. You may be in the Twilight Zone tonight.

226 Aristogiton  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:17:33pm

Spencer understands that you have to win on the ideological front or you don't get supporters.

Sounds like Dymphna is panicking. That's not helpful.

227 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:18:46pm
228 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:19:46pm

re: #218 ggt

Do you want to hear my rant on teaching The Classics (Dead White Men Subjects) in school? The benefits of Latin and Logic?

/no I thought not --I'd be preaching to the choir anyway.

MY kid is learning it, it's really all I can do.

That's what I've done with mine!

229 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:19:47pm

re: #222 Bubblehead II

Good Night Lizards. It was an inerstersting day of lurking with the occassional post. Mandy and Babba, Hope to see you on the DT with some awsome tunes.. LoL, kindly save me a (non-spiked) fruit cup in the super secret fridge. May the diety of your choice smile upon you.
And yes, that includes you otingoC.

Noted, it will be done. ;)

/guardian of the fridge.

230 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:19:49pm

re: #227 song_and_dance_man Thanks s&d man. Uh, what means supplication? Gad, I'm effin exhausted here!

231 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:20:01pm

Someone told me they were voting for Obama because things have got to change. "The Patriot Act means that black helicopters can come and take anyone they want to GITMO." (paraphrasing)

I kept my mouth shut because I was afraid I was going to LOL.

232 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:20:41pm

re: #214 Noam Sayin'

I'd liked to have bought a Vespa, but six or seven grand is a bit much for something that will get ridden maybe 5 months of the year. Mine only cost $1500. There's a lot of plastic on it, but it was only $1500. Bought it on the innernets, and they delivered it to my door for free - liftgate included.

I got the blue one.

Watch out for cars because some of them will be actively looking to put you into the ditch, they sadistically consider it sport.

/being able to accelerate to over 100 mph on a two wheel vehicle has its advantages and saved my life at least twice

233 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:21:03pm

re: #231 ggt Y'all shoulda called 'em racists for the BLACK helicopter line! LOL!

234 Syrah  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:21:24pm

re: #157 BlueCanuck

Only problem with our system is it takes money to just show up at the starting gate. Never mind running an election. I guess it can be done on the cheap with a lot of volunteers, but not many people with income challenges get into politics these days.

/even the thrice damned socialists known as the NDP

The money issue has a benefit as well. Any potential candidate that cannot raise the initial funds needed to run for an office, really has no hope of winning on his own anyway.

When I ran for Congress a couple of decades ago, I had to pay over $5,000 in initial fee's and expenses. (I spent less than a thousand of my own.) The was no hope of winning. The Democrat was so firmly entrenched that if he had died before November, I would have lost to a dead man.

If I could raise that kind of money, for a "no hope" race, then any candidate that stands snowballs chance in hell can at least do the same.

235 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:21:40pm

re: #231 ggt

Tell them it's the sky-blue helicopter they don't see that will get them.

236 realwest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:22:22pm

Well y'all I gotta go get some sleep - hope you all have a good night and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Goodnight everyone.

237 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:22:45pm

re: #224 Noam Sayin'

Get one of these. Less walking.

238 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:22:48pm

re: #228 wolfie

Yeah, I am pretty unwavering on this. The little I remember has helped me in my life immensely --so much that I crack out the text books occassionaly and try to brush up. I still don't retain much (by my standards)--but I am leaps and bounds ahead of the general population.

It is really scary.

239 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:23:18pm

re: #236 realwest

Goodnight realwest. Hope you have some good news from the panel.

240 ggt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:23:53pm

OMG it is after midnight in my world.

Night Lizards!

Have a great morning/evening!

241 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:24:22pm

Here's my stupid for the night.

Cabbage!

And yes, ggt. Very... scary.

242 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:24:44pm

re: #171 BlueCanuck

I have a reputation to uphold. ;)

/LeePro might be lurking

This is truly CREEPY! ! !

243 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:25:01pm

re: #209 BlueCanuck

Guess that's why you never went to orificer school.

/automatically disqualified. :)

well, they tried anyway: first time, after i had less than a year in, i said i needed more time, so i got my first (and only) promotion. second time, i was a bit more jaded, and showed up in OG107 Jungle Fatigues (OD RipStop Cotton) when most everyone else was in Class B's.

the last few times i simply went through the motions with the CO when they had to invite me in per the roster.......... we all knew it was BS and didn't waste anymore time than necessary. there was no way i was going to spend a year running around Los Alamitos 1 weekend a month in B's with a briefcase in one hand and a chrome dome on my head taking shit from st00pid people just for the privilege of being a 2LT. i'd already been to basic, and doing it all over again didn't seem worth it.

/besides, i would have had to forget *everything* i knew about land navigation to qualify.... %-)

244 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:25:51pm

re: #236 realwest

Goodnight! Hang in there tomorrow!

245 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:26:37pm

re: #240 ggt

Goodnight!

246 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:27:13pm

re: #232 Killian Bundy

I hear that. I had an asshole who deliberately sped up on me - on my first day, no less - just to get on my ass. What kind of shit is that?

Can't be an aggressive driver when you're on a 300-lb. vehicle. If he'd pulled that crap with my Jeep he may have ended up busting off his entire front end on my all-steel, bolted-to-the-frame bumper.

Might be a little cool tomorrow, but I'm looking forward to hitting the Minnehaha Creek Parkway mid-morning.

Or I might just stay in and drink coffee.

247 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:27:33pm
248 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:28:16pm

re: #216 Killian Bundy

Hey, ask Realwest while he's here.

/he's military and a lawyer

that's ok.... i'll *still* talk to him.

/we may know people in common.... it's a small state OD wise.

249 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:28:23pm
250 pat  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:28:52pm

re: #245 wolfie

Goodnight!

You know, you are really quite nice. Goodnite to you also. Or as we say, hiamoimoi. lol (sleep well).

251 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:30:15pm

re: #237 BlueCanuck

Bungalow - there's an arch.

And, I typically drink wine.

Maybe a system of vaccuum tubes - like at the bank.

252 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:30:31pm

re: #247 joecitizen

just for you,real

aw crap..took me too long..but it is my sentiment for all the lizards so..enjoy the bob..

253 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:30:44pm

re: #186 realwest

;D

254 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:32:54pm

re: #221 realwest

You're in my prayers, bud.

255 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:33:34pm

re: #207 redc1c4

my parents were married: they're Catholics.

/a$$hole w*rks...... %-)

Second that!

256 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:34:00pm

Night ggt.

/distracted at work.

257 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:34:52pm

re: #255 LeePro

Second that!

Lemme guess. You're both Irish?

258 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:35:09pm

re: #229 BlueCanuck

Noted, it will be done. ;)

/guardian of the fridge.

hey Dude! you should see all the neat stuff i found i the fridge!

/oh.... where you supposed to b guarding that? %-)

259 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:35:16pm

re: #242 LeePro

Creepy? In which way? :)

260 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:36:35pm

re: #258 redc1c4

hmmm, time to work on my booby trap skills again.

/now where did I put my field engineer books again.

261 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:36:45pm

re: #255 LeePro

Second that!

i lurv you too..... %-)

and no, i'm not Irish.
typical American heinz 57 (without the politician or the bitch %-)

262 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:37:15pm
263 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:37:16pm

re: #258 redc1c4

Wrong fridge. Get out of the beer...

;),
R

264 DesertSage  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:37:46pm
265 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:39:19pm

re: #261 redc1c4

I just figured, with @$$hole as an accepted term of affection, you might have gaelic roots.

266 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:40:43pm

re: #264 DesertSage

"Hey, Rocky..."

267 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:42:05pm

re: #246 Noam Sayin'

And always remember, wear clothes you're comfortable skidding across the pavement with at the speed you're traveling.

/hit the wet freeway on ramp at over the speed limit, ruined a helmet and a military surplus jacket, only bled slightly

268 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:42:57pm

re: #220 wolfie
  re: #197 Syrah

It does make sense if you run under their "label," doesn't it? And perhaps in the US, where you have 300+million people and only two major parties, there would be very little danger of criteria being too narrow. (You've got to have a big tent.) But you could screen out the extremists and the nut cases.
I'd like to see some states do this so we can see how it works. I think you have a good argument.

Y'all are bothe making me go hmmmmmm.

269 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:43:02pm

re: #232 Killian Bundy

Watch out for cars because some of them will be actively looking to put you into the ditch, they sadistically consider it sport.

/being able to accelerate to over 100 mph on a two wheel vehicle has its advantages and saved my life at least twice

there was a (short lived) drag between a rice rocket and a (Lotus?) wedge car in front of my house this afternoon.....

they took off from the light, based on sound, and by the time they got to me, the car was leading, but it shut down & pulled over and the rider just sat up and cruised on down the road..... very strange.

we've got Cobra's in the neighborhood.... let's see them try that with them.

/must not have been for pinks %-)

270 DesertSage  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:44:19pm

re: #266 Noam Sayin'

Have a laugh, Noam.

Fat kid gets nailed with paintballs

271 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:44:23pm

re: #267 Killian Bundy

Good tip. I guess the lambskin blazer is off the table?

272 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:45:16pm

re: #263 Render

Wrong fridge. Get out of the beer...

;),
R

got plenty of beer in the BBQ fridge out back: help yourself.....

/not kidding.
(i *am* loved. %-)

273 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:46:56pm
274 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:49:32pm

re: #270 DesertSage

Here's one back at ya.

275 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:50:31pm
276 DesertSage  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:52:25pm

re: #274 Noam Sayin'

I knew you were gonna post that!

This one's cute-
It ain't a f*cking tractor!

277 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:53:06pm
278 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:53:08pm

re: #271 Noam Sayin'

Good tip. I guess the lambskin blazer is off the table?

/are you going to be navigating hostile traffic during rush hour or parading around Lake Calhoun on the weekend?

279 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:54:43pm

re: #260 BlueCanuck

hmmm, time to work on my booby trap skills again.

/now where did I put my field engineer books again.

don't bother...... you colored across the lines last time you had them out and all the pages are stuck together anyway. %-)

280 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:55:35pm

re: #257 Noam Sayin'

Lemme guess. You're both Irish?

No. It's more like the Scottish in me, and the scotch in him!

281 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:58:00pm
282 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:58:37pm
283 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:58:41pm

re: #265 Noam Sayin'

I just figured, with @$$hole as an accepted term of affection, you might have gaelic roots.

i'm not gray enough yet to have roots.............. yet.

gimme a few more days.

/married life

284 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:59:31pm

re: #259 BlueCanuck

Creepy? In which way? :)

Your comment!

re: #171 BlueCanuck
I have a reputation to uphold. ;)
/LeePro might be lurking

I WAS lurking. And NY Nana emailed me at that very moment!

Completely freaked me out!

:)

285 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 10:59:40pm

re: #278 Killian Bundy

/are you going to be navigating hostile traffic during rush hour or parading around Lake Calhoun on the weekend?

Dude. I bought scooter boots before I even placed an order for the scoot. Of course I'm going to let the ladies on Calhoun Beach check me out.

Might take it to work on occasion, though. Got any remedies for helmet-hair?

286 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:01:08pm

re: #272 redc1c4

I can't imagine LoL keeping the fruitcup fixins in the BarBQue fridge. Gotta be a decoy.

===

Lotus-alike vs. Motorcycle:

A run to 60mph? It's become a more "popular" form of street racing by the restless youth around my AO in recent years. We used to call it Red Light Drags back in our day. These days the red lights are so close together, it's not worth it to get out of second gear.

BELTWAY
BANDITS,
R

287 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:01:16pm

re: #267 Killian Bundy

And always remember, wear clothes you're comfortable skidding across the pavement with at the speed you're traveling.

/hit the wet freeway on ramp at over the speed limit, ruined a helmet and a military surplus jacket, only bled slightly

i see riders here on the freeway and they're wearing shorts, cut off shirts, flip flops and a helmet, with no gloves.....

/shudder

288 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:01:42pm
289 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:02:00pm

re: #264 DesertSage

Squirrel booby trap

Love that one! Where's red?

290 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:03:20pm

re: #284 LeePro

heh, heh. Amazing how that works out some times.

291 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:04:40pm

re: #276 DesertSage

I knew you were gonna post that!

This one's cute-
It ain't a f*cking tractor!

now dats funny

292 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:05:16pm

re: #276 DesertSage

My cousin had one of those. Skinned up my calf on it when my foot slipped off the brake pedal.

I was going to enter that calf in the state fair, too.

293 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:05:58pm

re: #289 LeePro

Love that one! Where's red?

the elastic broke when i climbed up on it..... %-)

/secret squirrel

294 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:07:12pm
295 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:07:47pm

Tempted to sleep on the porch tonight - 56 for a low. The breeze is so relaxing - even more than the beer.

296 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:09:05pm

re: #292 Noam Sayin'

My cousin had one of those. Skinned up my calf on it when my foot slipped off the brake pedal.

I was going to enter that calf in the state fair, too.

ROFL!

297 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:09:26pm
298 DesertSage  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:09:33pm

re: #292 Noam Sayin'

My cousin had one of those. Skinned up my calf on it when my foot slipped off the brake pedal.

I was going to enter that calf in the state fair, too.

You never cease to amaze me, Noam.

299 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:10:18pm

re: #296 LeePro

Thanks, darlin. I was wondering if that one was going to hit.

300 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:10:54pm

re: #286 Render

I can't imagine LoL keeping the fruitcup fixins in the BarBQue fridge. Gotta be a decoy.

===

Lotus-alike vs. Motorcycle:

A run to 60mph? It's become a more "popular" form of street racing by the restless youth around my AO in recent years. We used to call it Red Light Drags back in our day. These days the red lights are so close together, it's not worth it to get out of second gear.

BELTWAY
BANDITS,
R

naw... from the light to my house is maybe 150-200 meters..... maybe they just wound it out in first? i wasn't really paying attention until they got to the high revs, and when i turned, they were already backing off. the next light was still a ways off and it's almost always green their way. the next one is about a full quarter down the road. (yeah, i've measured it. %-)

301 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:11:50pm
302 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:12:01pm

re: #298 DesertSage

It's almost cheap setting yourself up like that. But then again, there it is - dunk it.

303 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:13:38pm

re: #297 song_and_dance_man

singing and dancing can take place in more fields than for which it was intended. And with lesser talent

they sing and dance for something else than for the love, joy and art of it

there IS nothing more than love, joy and art...see ya 'round..

304 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:14:04pm

OK, obama demands mccain pull an ad in sc he did not run. obama spent 18 million in pa!. Ya know this is a whimpy bitch running for president, I can not stand him, he is one weak asshole!. sorry, kinda pissed!

305 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:15:35pm

sorry for all the swear words! Go Jazz!

306 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:16:39pm

re: #285 Noam Saying'

Dude. I bought scooter boots before I even placed an order for the scoot. Of course I'm going to let the ladies on Calhoun Beach check me out.

Might take it to work on occasion, though. Got any remedies for helmet-hair?

/if you're going to parade at Lake Calhoun, you must deal with Thomas Beach, been there done that

307 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:16:45pm

re: #305 raidergirl

sorry for all the swear words! Go Jazz!

I actually found it kinda sexy..Go Penguins!

308 DesertSage  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:16:56pm

re: #304 raidergirl

But you know...he might be your next president.

309 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:17:15pm

re: #304 raidergirl

OK, obama demands mccain pull an ad in sc he did not run. obama spent 18 million in pa!. Ya know this is a whimpy bitch running for president, I can not stand him, he is one weak asshole!. sorry, kinda pissed!

why don;t you tell us how you REALLY feel?

/out to the Q Fridge for some more beers %-)

310 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:17:16pm

re: #284 LeePro

I aim to please! ;)

Got to go to sleep...got to go to sleep now! G'nite, Lurker Lee!

G'nite, Lizards...remember that there is always a very talented lizard sensing a lurker, and that Blue Canuck has ESP!

311 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:18:10pm

re: #292 Noam Sayin'

/groan

312 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:19:12pm

re: #310 NY Nana

I aim to please! ;)

Got to go to sleep...got to go to sleep now! G'nite, Lurker Lee!

G'nite, Lizards...remember that there is always a very talented lizard sensing a lurker, and that Blue Canuck has ESP!

Edmonton Sucks Plenty?

313 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:20:02pm

Hi all, I'm around again tonight, this time with somewhat less cloudy vision. I got my glasses back today, and they're usable, but...

The right lens has sustained a lot of damage. So much that I can't use my right eye for anything. When I try, my brain automatically switches to my left eye, even before I realize it's happened.

Because my right eye is my weak eye, I have a greater need to use it in my daily activity. If I don't, I'm afraid it'll get weaker with time. So I guess I'll be calling the optometrist's office tomorrow.

314 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:20:42pm

red, that is how I really feel! I hate Obama & the pantsuit&mccain. So I am stuck between a rock and a hard place!

315 DesertSage  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:21:17pm

re: #285 Noam Sayin'

Of course I'm going to let the ladies on Calhoun Beach check me out.

Motorcycle chicks are hot.

I'll bet this is what LeePro looked like a few years ago.

316 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:23:08pm

re: #301 Render

Jihadis take note: We build this shit for the fun of it. Pray we don't get motivated otherwise.

317 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:24:01pm
318 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:27:56pm

sorry : i thought the "/ " would be understood..... %-)

this election brings new meaning to the term "screwed, blued and tattooed", don't it?

319 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:29:51pm
320 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:30:03pm

re: #317 savage_nation

I slid on the ice coming down Donner Summit and almost slid off into Donner Lake about 2 hrs ago.

Fucking global warming!

that would have sucked big time. i don;t suppose it was shallow where you were headed?

321 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:30:44pm

red, absolutely! Beer is good, and maybe you need a few! But listen, I love!you! Go God

/out to the Q Fridge for some more beers %-)

322 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:32:15pm

Better tell Charles!Love to my peeps! Go right wing extremists!Bwahaahaa

323 victor_yugo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:33:07pm

re: #317 savage_nation

I slid on the ice coming down Donner Summit and almost slid off into Donner Lake about 2 hrs ago.

Fucking global warming!

I-80? Been there, Feb. 2000. I still remember the sign leaving Reno that said:

SNOW IN DONNER PASS
CARRY CHAINS

324 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:34:28pm

re: #316 Noam Sayin'

They ain't seen nuttin yet.

BIGGER
FASTER
MEANER,
R

325 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:34:47pm

re: #315 DesertSage

Motorcycle chicks are hot.

I'll bet this is what LeePro looked like a few years ago.

Damn! ! !
How'd you know?!?!

Well... parts of me...

you know... like...

you know... two arms, two legs, butt, one head, dark hair... you know.

heh

326 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:34:59pm
327 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:35:52pm
328 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:36:06pm

re: #317 savage_nation

I slid on the ice coming down Donner Summit and almost slid off into Donner Lake about 2 hrs ago.

Fucking global warming!

Damn, Savage! Glad you're ok!

Still shakin"?

329 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:36:08pm
330 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:37:03pm
331 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:38:13pm

re: #315 DesertSage

Fa... da... frim... pa...

Okay, I am so moving to the desert Southwest.

re: #306 Killian Bundy

Don't know about Thomas beach, or any cliques thereof (I'm from out of town). As much as I like bailin' down the road in my Jeep, top down, wind blowing on my face, I'm sure I'll like scootin' around town. Besides, there are plenty of errands I do on weekends that will be all the more cost-efficient on the scooter.

And unless you're axel deep in mud, or climbing a 30 degree grade and navigating stumps and rocks, fording streams and getting somewhere almost no other SUV can take you, about the only other thrill in a Jeep is 70 mph on the highway. I live in the city.

332 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:39:53pm

re: #312 redc1c4

Edmonton Sucks Plenty?

Nope! Hey, what have you got against Edmonton? ;)

ExtraSensoryPerception!

G'nite again!

333 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:40:15pm

Red, whats up bitch? That would be fun! blue screwed and tatooed means you are a liberal! Good luck with that!

334 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:40:54pm

re: #332 NY Nana

Nite, { { { Nana } } }

335 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:45pm

LGF, sorry if red is a lib

336 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:42:04pm

G'night, y'all.

337 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:42:23pm

Brit Hume is a sexy bitch!

338 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:08pm

re: #336 Noam Sayin'

G'night, y'all.

Nite, Noam!

339 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:23pm

re: #337 raidergirl

Brit Hume is a sexy bitch!

YES!

340 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:42pm
341 NY Nana  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:44:25pm

re: #334 LeePro

{{{ Lee }}}

342 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:45:03pm

GO AMERICANS!

343 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:47:40pm

re: #326 savage_nation

Oh, thats a pretty deep lake from what I recall. A little over 300 feet deep.

yeah, but not right at the edge?

the HWY looks a bit from the beach in the SAT photo....

344 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:49:12pm

Damn if lgf does not run fort he hills. Seriously an obama move~~chickenshits!I Good luck with being wimps!

345 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:50:08pm
346 LeePro  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:50:56pm

Well, Lizards, I'm still not feelin' up to par. Cuttin' it short tonight.

G'nite, { { Blue, savage, Sage, s&dMan, everybody } }.

347 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:51:18pm
348 raidergirl  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:51:38pm

OK, tomorrow you will all agree on everything, kinda like the kos folks! Goodnight!Thats fun!

349 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:53:27pm
350 bosforus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:53:54pm

Here's a lovely picture I snapped while driving around most of the day. This one's just south of the US-6 and US-89 junction about 20 minutes north of Fairview, UT.

351 Spiny Norman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:54:04pm

re: #315 DesertSage

Motorcycle chicks are hot.

I'll bet this is what LeePro looked like a few years ago.

That's what my ex- looked like when I first met her. She doesn't look like that anymore...

352 redc1c4  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:56:39pm

re: #346 LeePro

Well, Lizards, I'm still not feelin' up to par. Cuttin' it short tonight.

G'nite, { { Blue, savage, Sage, s&dMan, everybody } }.

G'nite..... even though you left me out. hope you're feelin better soon.

/wouldn't be the same if you didn't %-)

353 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:57:01pm
354 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:58:42pm
355 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:00:39am

re: #345 savage_nation

Well just past the spot that photo was taken is a 800 foot drop off to the lake surface. Straight down....

you'd make a helluva splash doing that. %-)

356 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:01:59am

If you're still lurking, good night { { {LeePro} } }.

/busy training guards.
//your cup will await upon the morrow.

357 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:02:33am
358 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:02:38am
359 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:09:08am
360 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:18:17am
361 ethanxxx  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:19:17am

quiet...

362 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:19:46am

re: #358 savage_nation

yep.... me would so

then you can relate to this TINS story in this

363 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:19:55am
364 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:20:41am

re: #362 redc1c4

then you can relate to this TINS story in this picture you should see a dirt road running from upper right to lower left.

disregard all after.....

365 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:21:54am
366 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:21:56am

re: #364 redc1c4

linky no worky.

367 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:22:36am
368 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:24:20am

re: #367 savage_nation

thanks, didn't notice that.

/brain turning to mush. :p

369 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:25:03am
370 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:27:01am
371 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:27:13am

re: #369 savage_nation

Yeah, training newbies is a mental drain.

/they are eating my brains.

372 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:27:33am
373 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:28:14am

Hey there ploome, just chillaxing and surfing the net.

374 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:28:22am

re: #362 redc1c4

then you can relate to this TINS story in this picture you should see a dirt road running from upper right to lower left.

we (1/18th Cav) had an 88 rolling dead head down the Burma Trail back to Club Bob when they lost a track pin just to the right of the dam......

said pin was on the outside or downhill side of the vehicle.
physics being what it is, the ARV rolled down the tred until it went off it, and then the powered side took charge and turned the vehicle to the right (down slope). the crew had no warning, and once it started, no options. they left the road at an angle, but hit a bump which more or less straightened them out, and they proceeded down the slope till they got to the bottom and it flattened out, so friction could stop them.

once they quit bouncing around and realized they were still alive, the less excited of the two got out and walked over to one of the buildings you see in the lower right and called for help.

just think if the pin had sheered before they passed the dam. all we would have found was the track laying in the road and a diesel slick on the lake.

/Scouts Out!

375 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:28:51am
376 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:30:25am
377 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:33:08am
378 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:33:40am

re: #365 savage_nation

I've actually never been there... surprisingly so.

it's not exactly an Interstate..... and i don't think you'd want to take a tractor trailer up the "Burma Trail".....

nice lake to boat on in the summer from all accounts, but all i've ever done is roll by it in a track........ and i flew over it once.

/different story. got the Brigade CO's driver drunk.....%-)

379 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:34:21am
380 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:35:52am
381 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:36:17am
382 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:36:36am
383 Genosaurer  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:39:04am

Won't posting links like this throw off our Stupid/Evil ratio?

This is why we're losing to Instapundit!

384 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:39:19am
385 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:39:45am
386 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:40:03am
387 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:40:56am

re: #385 savage_nation

yeah, the difference of a % angle and a ° angle is huge.

388 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:41:51am
389 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:43:00am
390 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:43:46am

re: #383 Genosaurer

Won't posting links like this throw off our Stupid/Evil ratio?

This is why we're losing to Instapundit!

Because registering on LGF is not a 24/7 option...

391 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:45:19am
392 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:46:35am

re: #383 Genosaurer

Won't posting links like this throw off our Stupid/Evil ratio?

This is why we're losing to Instapundit!

I should have said that the main reason is because registering at LGF is not open 24/7/365...

393 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:48:14am
394 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:49:12am

re: #393 savage_nation

Hey Bob...

Hi savage! where are you this fine, errr, morning?

395 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:50:16am
396 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:51:47am

re: #395 savage_nation

Sparks NV. Had a bit of trouble on Donner Summit a few hrs ago...

Isn't that the place where a few hundred died in the 1800's?

397 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:53:33am

It's on the CA/Nevada line, right?

398 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:58:53am
399 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 12:59:16am
400 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:00:41am

re: #398 savage_nation

Thats right. The Donner Party were reduced to cannibals

Right. I remember seeing a history channel piece about that.

401 Genosaurer  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:01:00am

re: #386 ploome hineni

links like what?

are we losing to instapundit?

My fault for not being more clear, I was referring to the original topic (the GoV piece), which clearly didn't fall under LGF's supposed orientation of "Anti-Islamo-everything" from here.

402 Mammamia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:04:19am

re: #162 Sharmuta

How do you value something you didn't earn?

You value it period... as you value your life, your country, its laws, customs, etc. You did not create them, (no one person did, they were a process of countless people and countless years).

Even America herself didn't just crop up... though in many ways original, much about her can be traced to - gasp - dead white European men and their Judeo-Christian philosophies and religions, (i.e. Protestant work ethic, the puritans, etc., notions of property, democracy, human rights, etc.).

Did you earn that? Hardly, nevertheless it is a heritage which though tweaked here and there is well worth preserving.

So how do you value something you didn't earn? By appreciating its intrinsic value in and of itself regardless of your own person.

403 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:04:35am

re: #365 savage_nation

I've actually never been there... surprisingly so.

it's not exactly an Interstate..... and i don't think you'd want to take a tractor trailer up the "Burma Trail".....

nice lake to boat on in the summer from all accounts, but all i've ever done is roll by it in a track........ and i flew over it once.

/different story. got the Brigade CO's driver drunk.....%-)re: #382 savage_nation

Oh you would be surprised at some of the roads I've taken my rig over. Lots of logging and mining roads.

yeah, but there's some switchbacks on this trail that are best navigated by using pivot/neutral steer, and that isn't an option on most 18 wheelers.

404 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:05:51am
405 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:06:32am
406 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:06:53am

re: #383 Genosaurer

BTW welcome. My point was that at almost all other sites anyone can register and post anytime, which is why they "rank" higher. LGF is wayyyyy different. Registration is very limited, but not to certain people, but rather to certain times. It limits the number of those allowed to register. So consider yourself lucky, as I do, and most others who post do.

407 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:11:02am

re: #405 savage_nation

I see.

hence the local nick name "the Burma Trail".....

wall on one side, drop to the water on the other, and SFA in front of you.... a track driver's dream, but it's the only off road way to move AFV's from Club Bob to Hungry Lizard, so they do it all the time.

408 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:13:51am

hey Blue!

i'm gonna drop off and watch this Clash DVD we got today, so be sure and give LoL this fruit cup type stuff i found in this fridge someone tried to hide, 'k?

BiaB! %-)

409 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:14:21am

re: #404 savage_nation

When it snows up there, it SNOWS!

We got over 450 inches of snow global warming- over 37 feet this winter!

410 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:15:00am
411 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:16:04am
412 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:17:43am

re: #410 savage_nation

Is Colorado still under a 'drought'?

Not at all. All this global warming ended it! All hail Algore!

413 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:19:53am

re: #408 redc1c4

Night red. Will do. ;)

414 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:21:10am

re: #411 savage_nation

wow. sounds like the ice truckers.

not even close: just a couple of klicks of relatively nasty, with days of regular boredom/stupidity on both ends. of course, since we're talking AFV's, complacency kills on a routine basis, but it's usually the high pucker point of the adventure. as i started out this sub thread, it's definitely *not* the place for a critical part failure. %-)

415 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:21:12am
416 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:21:46am

re: #413 BlueCanuck

i'll likely be back, just might miss the "moment"....

/bad penny %-)

417 jenv  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:21:55am

With the rapes in Sweden, carbecues in France, vandalism of churches and antiquities in Italy, and murders in the Netherlands, Muslims in Europe are already engaged in an undeclared war against everybody else. European governments won't protect their citizens from Muslim violence, continue to import tens of thousands more of them, shut down dissent by iron control of major media (something the old USSR would envy), and have (IMO insane) plans to integrate North African Muslim states into the EU, which would make those countries big-time conduits for jihadists. If I were European, I'd be real angry. Many here speak with contempt about the desire of Europeans to strike back, but what do you think they should do? None of the "respectable" political parties seem willing to stop the insanity any time before, to borrow a phrase, the avalanche has already started and it is too late for the pebbles to vote.

418 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:24:08am

re: #417 jenv

Jen, where are you?

419 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:29:29am
420 Abu Lahab  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:30:12am

So it turned out that Mr. Spencer is simply "watching"? He is not "actively resisting"?
His "watching" has produced such informative and deep analysis, and he is risking his life writing about and exposing the enemies of humanity.
Thank you for your watchful eyes Mr. Spencer and thank you, and Charles, for keeping the Anti-Jihad fight on the right path.
Respect!

421 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:30:15am

re: #417 jenv

I only asked because of what you posted.

422 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:31:10am

re: #419 savage_nation

I gotta get some sleep. I'll talk to you all tomorrow

TTYL savage...be safe!

423 victor_yugo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:35:25am

re: #417 jenv

All the "causes" you mention are not reason to resort to racist attitudes. Not every Arab is an Islamist, and not every Caucasian is opposed to Islamism.

The actions of our enemies is the proper casus belli. The skin tones are irrelevant. This is what GoV, the BNP, Le Pen, and their ilk refuse to comprehend.

424 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------------->
Help yourselves!

425 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:00:25am

Hmmm coming up on that time.

/looks around for the bearer of the fruit cups.

426 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:00:52am

re: #425 BlueCanuck

BlueCanuck! :-)

You're late.

427 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:01:31am

Good morning littleoldlady. I see your timing is better than mine. :)

/puts two fruitcups in the Super Secret Fridge™ for LeePro, and BubbleheadII

428 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:02:19am

re: #426 littleoldlady

Well, I am not master of the clock like you are.

/just guardian of the fridge.

429 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:02:45am

re: #427 BlueCanuck

You're a good man! :-)

430 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:06:52am

re: #429 littleoldlady

I try, BubbleHead made her request to the keeper of the Super Secret Fridge up thread ↑. :)

431 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:08:16am

Bubblehead is a "her"?

/I did not know that. ;-)

432 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:08:32am

re: #417 jenv

With the rapes in Sweden, carbecues in France, vandalism of churches and antiquities in Italy, and murders in the Netherlands, Muslims in Europe are already engaged in an undeclared war against everybody else. European governments won't protect their citizens from Muslim violence, continue to import tens of thousands more of them, shut down dissent by iron control of major media (something the old USSR would envy), and have (IMO insane) plans to integrate North African Muslim states into the EU, which would make those countries big-time conduits for jihadists. If I were European, I'd be real angry. Many here speak with contempt about the desire of Europeans to strike back, but what do you think they should do? None of the "respectable" political parties seem willing to stop the insanity any time before, to borrow a phrase, the avalanche has already started and it is too late for the pebbles to vote.

"strike back"? is that what you want to do?

you say none of the "respectable" political parties will do anything, so why not start a new, sensible, intelligent party that addresses the issue, rather than join forces with a different flavor of scum?

/just curious

and now: back to the CLASH!

433 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:09:37am

re: #427 BlueCanuck

Good morning littleoldlady. I see your timing is better than mine. :)

/puts two fruitcups in the Super Secret Fridge™ for LeePro, and BubbleheadII

/reaches in the back hatch and steals the same..... %-)

434 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:11:06am

re: #428 BlueCanuck

Well, I am not master of the clock like you are.

/just guardian of the fridge.

shall we go over the basics of security?

step 1: hire a thief %-)

435 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:11:18am

re: #433 redc1c4

I think I might have made an assumption. But then again I have been accused of having ESP as well.

re: #431 littleoldlady

Or did you? Hmmmm?

436 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:11:56am

re: #435 BlueCanuck

Gahhhh PIMF!

/got the replys twisted.
//need more sleep

437 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:12:23am

re: #435 BlueCanuck

I think I might have made an assumption. But then again I have been accused of having ESP as well.

re: #431 littleoldlady

Or did you? Hmmmm?

so you're in Edmonton?

438 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:12:24am

re: #434 redc1c4

Ok so you are saying. . . . . . :)

439 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:12:38am

Ah. red is here. Now we're all safe.

/or not. ;-)

440 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:13:23am

re: #436 BlueCanuck

Gahhhh PIMF!

/got the replys twisted.
//need more sleep

she's wearing you out, or does the dog fight you for the couch?

/white smoke

441 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:13:49am

re: #439 littleoldlady

Every pantheon must have it's puck, pan, or coyote.

/hey red, if the shoe fits. . . . .

442 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:15:31am

re: #438 BlueCanuck

Ok so you are saying. . . . . . :)

well, i have this hardly touched fruit cup available at a *very* reasonable price.....

if you're not interested, maybe LoL would like some for tomorrow. i have nearly an endless supply, so that's not a issue. %-)

443 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:18:08am

Someday, when the "hope" for drugs becomes necessary...

/can you say "President Obama"?

...I'm going to take red up on his offer.

444 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:19:16am

re: #443 littleoldlady

Well there's always the great white hope.

/Come to Canada. :)

445 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:21:00am

re: #444 BlueCanuck

Too white there!

/not a big fan of snow and ice

446 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:21:50am

re: #441 BlueCanuck

Every pantheon must have it's puck, pan, or coyote.

/hey red, if the shoe fits. . . . .

i'm thinking more along the lines of Kokopelli..... coyote in the Navajo tradition is a trickster, but i'm sure i don't want that baggage.

/besides which, Household 6 would skin me alive and tan my hide on the garage if i tried some of that shit. %-)

447 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:23:52am

re: #443 littleoldlady

Someday, when the "hope" for drugs becomes necessary...

/can you say "President Obama"?

...I'm going to take red up on his offer.

i'd ruin you for normal men...... %-)

/Zinfandel?

448 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:24:15am

re: #445 littleoldlady

Too white there!

/not a big fan of snow and ice

Racist!

449 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:24:52am

re: #446 redc1c4

You're right, Kokopelli is more up your alley.

450 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:26:49am

re: #443 littleoldlady

can you say "President Obama"?

/he makes manure taste good

451 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:27:10am

re: #447 redc1c4

i'd ruin you for normal men...... %-)

/Zinfandel?

I'm trying to remember if I ever knew normal men...

/born ruined

Zinfandel? Oh yeah!

452 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:28:11am

re: #450 Killian Bundy

Let's just go back to the squirrelburgers, m'kay? ;-)

Killian! :-)

453 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:31:18am

re: #449 BlueCanuck

You're right, Kokopelli is more up your alley.

true, but one should be cautious with invoking spirits..... acknowledgment is one thing, channeling is another. i don't go there.

/no, i don't do Ouija's or Tarot either.

454 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:31:21am

re: #452 littleoldlady

It was squirrel melts I believe. :)

/yumm yummm.

455 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:33:18am

re: #451 littleoldlady

I'm trying to remember if I ever knew normal men...

/born ruined

Zinfandel? Oh yeah!

like i tell Household 6: it's not *my* fault you scared them off...... %-)

/she tells people she lost a bet

456 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:36:57am

re: #455 redc1c4

like i tell Household 6: it's not *my* fault you scared them off...... %-)

/she tells people she lost a bet

Oy. We have a lot in common. :-/

457 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:38:36am

re: #455 redc1c4

Lost a bet? Because of your looks or personality?

/not taking any on this one. ;)

458 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:43:26am

re: #454 BlueCanuck

It was squirrel melts I believe. :)

/yumm yummm.

I've blocked it out.

;-)

459 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:45:50am

re: #458 littleoldlady

You haven't lived until you've eaten stuffed muskrat. :D

460 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:48:31am

Robert Spencer teaches about the jihad..without hate...that is why he is a New York times bestseller ..what are you?

461 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:49:34am

re: #457 BlueCanuck

Lost a bet? Because of your looks or personality?

/not taking any on this one. ;)

well, if i had $100 dollar bills taped all over me i'd still be ugly, and Slokat can vouch for my personality, so you pays yer money and you takes yer choices.....

on the up side: i buy groceries, cook meals (and well, i might add), clean up the kitchen afterward without being told and put down the seat.
*that* covers nearly a lifetime worth of indiscretions. add that i'm handy around the house and yard, won't stray and can do laundry without ruining things, plus i radiate heat in the winter time........ %-)

462 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:49:51am

re: #458 littleoldlady

I've blocked it out.

;-)

/just like what your child does without your supervision

463 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:50:53am

re: #461 redc1c4

From the sounds of it you are pretty well house trained. House 6 should consider herself lucky.

464 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:52:03am

re: #459 BlueCanuck

You haven't lived until you've eaten stuffed muskrat. :D

for that, you deserve this.

465 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:54:44am

re: #459 BlueCanuck

You haven't lived until you've eaten stuffed muskrat. :D

I used to have a terrific muskrat jacket - that I miss!

/you eat 'em; I'll wear 'em. Deal?

re: #462 Killian Bundy

/just like what your child does without your supervision

Actually, my kid is way braver than I am. She likes scary/bloody movies, too.

466 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:56:44am

re: #459 BlueCanuck

You haven't lived until you've eaten stuffed muskrat. :D

My Dad beat a muskrat almost to death with a broom in our garage. My uncle, with a strange sense of humor, found it, dead, and took it to a taxidermist. Stuffed muskrat was awesome!

/I actually took it to school show and tell, seriously, wish I still had it!

467 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:56:46am

re: #464 redc1c4

Can't help it. I am little bit country. :)

468 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:56:56am

re: #463 BlueCanuck

From the sounds of it you are pretty well house trained. House 6 should consider herself lucky.

as an old Infantry/Cavalryman, i appreciate my creature comforts more than most. if being "well trained" gets me more of them than most, i'm not gonna complain. as one of my CSM's said to some moron who complained that i had more than the basic wherewithal in the field "Red has learned one of the basic principals of being a Soldier: you don't have to train at being miserable."

/i'm DAMN lucky %-)

469 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:58:01am

re: #466 Killian Bundy

One of my dads co-workers was a trapper, so we had an interesting protein diet growing up.

470 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:58:26am

re: #465 littleoldlady

Actually, my kid is way braver than I am. She likes scary/bloody movies, too.


/so, all the crazy freshman stuff has dissipated?

471 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:59:22am

re: #468 redc1c4

I think one of my Master Corporals summed that sentiment up perfectly. "Any fool can be uncomfortable"

472 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:00:21am

re: #467 BlueCanuck

Can't help it. I am little bit country. :)

so we'll get you a warehouse.......

/gotta start watching GAC again. %-)

473 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:00:22am

New thread, heading on up.

/see you all there

474 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:01:29am

re: #471 BlueCanuck

I think one of my Master Corporals summed that sentiment up perfectly. "Any fool can be uncomfortable"

yup.

never carried an army sleeping bag after basic....... among other tricks.

475 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:03:08am

re: #470 Killian Bundy

/so, all the crazy freshman stuff has dissipated?

Plan B (Hofstra) was a (very expensive) learning experience. We're back to Plan A (Philadelphia University) for the Fall.

Living at home until we squirrel (HA) away enough money for an apartment is not so bad after all...

476 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:12:00am

re: #475 littleoldlady

Plan B (Hofstra) was a (very expensive) learning experience. We're back to Plan A (Philadelphia University) for the Fall.

Living at home until we squirrel (HA) away enough money for an apartment is not so bad after all...

I spent my first college year at the University of Michigan in the Freshman honors squad, living with the freshman football players. Go Blue!

/next 13 years , work, much fraternity fun, and a double major degree from the University of Minnesota, law degree in old age

477 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:15:18am

re: #476 Killian Bundy

I spent my first college year at the University of Michigan in the Freshman honors squad, living with the freshman football players

Funny. I did the same thing at Temple U. ;-)

My kid has learned that dorm living is not for her.

478 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:19:08am

Well, good morning, y'all.

479 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:20:52am

Oh, I see that the early morning autothread has arrived. I'll go up there.

480 macbrooks  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:56:47am

Mr. Spencer rules! This guy isn't even a player.

Morning, Lizards!

mac :]

481 Josephine  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:02:25am

I read Dymphna's comment last night and was taken aback at her rudeness and arrogance. I didn't comment on it there because I felt it wouldn't accomplish anything (this was between her and Mr. Spencer).

Robert Spencer's response was excellent: polite and to the point.

"I pity the fool" who underestimates that man's intellect and work.

482 EtNorskTroll  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:17:23am

What?!?

I got a "Mega-Ding-Down" (MDD) for asking whether LGF supports the Republican party any more (even a neg by Charles, no less!)

What is the thinking behind that?

I've been traveling... Things change fast at LGF sometimes. I'm just trying to keep up...cut me some slack, will ya'?

Either answer the question for me (yes--LGF supports the Republican Party or no--LGF doesn't support the Republican Party) or ignore the question...but please don't ding me down because you don't like the ques