NO MONEY FOR YOU!

"I have no interest in pursuing victory by laying the facts before the voting public."
--John McCain

McCain supported Reagan?

John McCain is still stuck on stupid.

McCain has no business discussing "reality" or any other concept with which he has no experience.

Mixed signals? Deliberate deception? Indirect maneuver inspired by Sun Tzu? "Maskirovka"? "Dezinformatsiya"? Or just plain bad idea? Wait and see. Oh well.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Yesterday I suggested that McCain is doing this to give the ad national exposure. At this point, I'm not so sure.

That is because they are "mavericks".

Lincoln, T.R. and Ronald Reagan would all have been appalled by "Rev." Wright's

"God Damn America"

and they would have said so, Mr. McCain.

I have a hard time remaining civil in my comments about BHO and the Democratic Party so I'll quit now.

He won't be happy until Obama is president?

John, get a freakin' clue. Your main plan right now should be to let everyone else attack Obama (especially Hillary). Let them battle it out. Do not jump in. Yet.

This is why I have issues with (as far as I can tell) basically having no choice but voting for McCain. Obama spends 20 years dragging his family to listen to a guy who thinks the U.S. government invented AIDS to get back at black people, and it's not relevant?

mccain is out of touch with conservatives, the Republican Party, and REALITY!

Vote R in your local elections.

What in the wide, wide world of sports is McCain trying to do, pull another Bob Dole?

Well, you have to admit, John McCain is very mature.

Everyday there is less to like about McCain.

Sigh.

Telling them to stop once and letting it rest was a strategy.

Getting into a pissing contest is McCain being a dumb ass

personally i think it's politically brilliant. disavow yourself, giving yourself plausible deniability, while at the same time propelling a state ad to national prominence.

one liberal, one socialist, and one marxist. these are our choices in 2008?

Juan McCain should STFU and let those of us in North Carolina decide what kinds of adds we need for a Gubernatorial race.

one liberal, one socialist, and one marxist, how Effin' disappointing!

Probably a calculated move, the ad will still go out and McCain can claim he's above petty name-calling or some such.

Abraham Lincoln would have been a-ok with Jeremiah Wright's remarks.

/// sarc. off

McCain is right on the edge of senility. I have some concerns that he doesn't disqualify himself between now and November. As to the odds of him making it through even a first four-year term, I dunno.

Yeah, his mother. Would you want her as president?

He is an idiot.

McCain/Obama 08

re: #8 brainsample

Yesterday I suggested that McCain is doing this to give the ad national exposure. At this point, I'm not so sure.

"Senator, can I interest you in some bullet proof shoes?"

"I'm a Republican and I'm a maverick, damn it, and if you don't listen to me and do as I say you're out of touch!"

/Juan McCain

re: #18 beblebrox

personally i think it's politically brilliant. disavow yourself, giving yourself plausible deniability, while at the same time propelling a state ad to national prominence.

See, what's what I hoped at first - it was McCain and the NC Repubs working both sides.

But I don't think that any longer.

. I want more Jeremiah Wright and more cowbell.

The key scene in the film "The Candidate" starring Robert Redford (from the '70s) is when he is talking with a strategist, who informs Redford -- who has been recruited somewhat unwillingly to be a gubernatorial candidate -- that the reason they're conducted such a lame campaign is that the goal is for him to LOSE. I forget the plot intricacies of why, but Redford eventually shakes off his handlers and goes off to actually win.

Watching McCain's campaign, I am reminded of that film -- they seem intent on losing on purpose, as if that was some kind of clever counter-intuitive goal.

I need to find something to cling to.

I heard a sound clip from the head of the RNC in NC this morning say the exact same thing but in reverse. She basically said he doesn't understand the political atmosphere in NC. I'm going to have to obviously side with NC in this case. McCain's idea of 'reailty' is doing whatever he can to keep the dems happy. Hopefully, come the general election, he'll turn on 'em. But I'm definitely not counting on it.

re: #18 beblebrox

personally i think it's politically brilliant. disavow yourself, giving yourself plausible deniability, while at the same time propelling a state ad to national prominence.

I would agree, except I'm pretty sure he's completely serious.

they’re out of touch with reality and the Republican Party.

I believe it's called "projection".

Hold on, I have a crazy theory here.

It is possible, just possible, that McCain is mad because this material was going to feature in some great ads later and springing them now gives the Obama campaign time to wait out the effect?

...Nope.

Not possible, damn, I thought we had someone with a mind, here.

I guess people you associate with and judgment aren't important issues for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

Give the man a waffle, and leave him in peace.

re: #30 Killgore Trout

I need to find something to cling to.

Atheists tend to have that problem. ;)

What he should have said was, "I am running against Barack Obama, not Jeremiah Wright." The lecture was unnecessary.

re: #24 pat

Spock Yoda '08

re: #19 BulgarWheat

one liberal, one socialist, and one marxist. these are our choices in 2008?

One shot.
One bourbon.
And one beer.

LanceKates: McCain 'Out of Touch with Conservatives'

Another "diss" to the conservatives. McCain better pick a heck of a good VP.

O'Reilly had a couple of mindreaders on last night and these learned Ph.D.'s concluded this is all a nefarious plot by McCain to stay above the fray while tacitly supporting the ad.

/They're not fooled.

How is it worst when Obama called all Republican Voters Racist? If Obama can't take the heat he should get out of the kitchen.

Rush said money was pouring into NC Republican HQ.
I was very proud of Ms Daves for standing up to mccain.

re: #36 rawmuse

...but I'll always have porn.

WTF? Does he NOT want to win?

Like Barry Hussein Osama will respond in kind...

re: #38 Ojoe

Spock Yoda '08

The Doctor/Captain Kirk '08

re: #29 zombie

You'd think McCain would've learned a lesson or two after nearly drowning his campaign last summer.

I liked what McCain said here:

Jennifer Rubin asked if Obama has given an unhelpful signal to Hamas? McCain responded that it’s clear who Hamas wants to be President. So does Daniel Ortega. “I will be Hamas’ worst nightmare,” said McCain. McCain noted that Iran is stepping up their export of explosives to Iraq, and they wouldn’t want him to be President either. New slogan: John McCain: The candidate America’s enemies least favorite.

[Link: www.theamericanmind.com...]

re: #38 Ojoe

Spock Yoda '08

Hear hear! I would vote for that ticket in a heartbeat.

re: #28 Tumulus11

. I want more Jeremiah Wright and more cowbell.

Me too! Especially the cowbell.

re: #47 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

You know they'd be better.

That's like the pot calling the kettle black.

/Was that racist?

Of note;

No matter if its a R or a D, the next four years America will have one sort of lame duck for a Pres.

too also:

facts

East Texas State Rep. on what will come in Texas this next session

[Link: www.kltv.com...]

and facts on DL's for Illegals in Main.

[Link: www.alipac.us...]

The best:

Obama says to MSM media that "McCain could pull the ad if he wanted to."

Will the MSM remember that when MoveOn.org has an and with McCain, Osama Bin Laden, a goat and three gallons of lubricant?

Sorry for the mental image, but I bet no one would remind Obama about his statement charging McCain with the task of removing an ad by another group.

re: #50 vxbush

Can we have Teal'c as Secretary of Defense?

re: #47 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

The Doctor/Captain Kirk '08

Alienist!

/

Here's an interesting possibility:

McCain is actually signalling to US -- we independent bloggers.

Here's what he's saying:

"I will take the high road -- absolutely no negative ads, and I will not attack my opponents. Strictly a positive 'message campaign.'

However, that means it is up to YOU, my unaffiliated supporters, to be my attack dogs. I want you to take Obama (or Hillary) down, yet I also want to be able to honestly disassociate myself from you."

That way, we get the best of both worlds.

We'll SwiftBlog Obama while McCain keeps his hands clean.

How about it? I'm OK with that.

re: #43 jdun

How is it worst when Obama called all Republican Voters Racist? If Obama can't take the heat he should get out of the kitchen.

If you said that about Hillary, you'd be sexist!

All he had to say was, "The NC Republicans acted independently of our campaign. We had no prior knowledge of the ad and we cannot prevent them from acting as they see fit."

McCain tends to be a little self-righteous about how upright and moral he is, so he felt he had to say something to protect his self-image. This is why even if McCain becomes president, he will never be the leader of the Republican Party.

Hey, I like that ad up top with F. Lee Levin on it.

McCain is the one who is "out of touch with reality ". Senator McCain, let's just think of it as most of us conservative Republicans are just mavericks like you! Yes you are doing a great job of winning back the conservative base - keep up the great work.

re: #58 zombie

From your keyboard to McCain's ears...

Every time I think I can cast a vote for the guy, he opens his mouth and says something stupid.

PLEASE stick to your biography and shut up about politics and policy.

re: #52 Ojoe

You know they'd be better.

Yep.

We have a Time Lord, who doesn't give second chances to anyone and can regenerate, at the top of the ticket, and to charm the wives of foreign leaders as VP.

He bites the hand that feeds him. Again.

This is quite the trend McCain has. He has no problem going soft on his political opponents across the aisle, but will unleash all kinds of craziness on those within the GOP who cross him - even by running accurate ads about Obama and Clinton.

No wonder so many in the GOP are going to be holding their nose when they vote in November. The stink from this election is almost too much to bear.

re: #58 zombie

Fine with me

re: #27 Diamond Bullet

See, what's what I hoped at first - it was McCain and the NC Repubs working both sides.

But I don't think that any longer.

I dunno. I have no reason to not believe it. it would take a lot to convince me that any politician wasn't a conniving S.O.B.

re: #57 vxbush

Alienist!

/

lol

does mccain want to win this thing?
sheesh.

re: #58 zombie

Here's an interesting possibility:

McCain is actually signalling to US -- we independent bloggers.

Here's what he's saying:

"I will take the high road -- absolutely no negative ads, and I will not attack my opponents. Strictly a positive 'message campaign.'

However, that means it is up to YOU, my unaffiliated supporters, to be my attack dogs. I want you to take Obama (or Hillary) down, yet I also want to be able to honestly disassociate myself from you."

That way, we get the best of both worlds.

We'll SwiftBlog Obama while McCain keeps his hands clean.

How about it? I'm OK with that.

Plausible.

Even if not, he's already being accused of it.

So he may as well proceed.

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sigh.

Telling them to stop once and letting it rest was a strategy.

Getting into a pissing contest is McCain being a dumb ass

agreed .

re: #58 zombie

Swiftblogging -- is that original? I like it very much.

re: #71 JammieWearingFool

Plausible.

Even if not, he's already being accused of it.

So he may as well proceed.

So one can have one's cake and eat it too!

"The last thing he's qualified to give a tour of is reality."
/Seinfeld on Kramer - it works here, too.

The major disappointment that I have seen with the Republican leadership over the years, and I speak as a lifelong Republican, is that they ain't got no fight in them. They don't fight for what they believe in, which probably explains why they keep losing support. All I see from the Republicans are reasons to not vote for them. Where is a third party when you need one?

"Swiftblogging" good rotating title.

re: #58 zombie

I made that observation yesterday, but he's straining credulity by going after the NC GOP in this way.

Hey, Johnny, here's the reality, you are/were one of the worst of the republican candidates. You are only there because independent and Democrats voted for you in open primaries. They are not going to vote for you in the general. And quite frankly, many of us may not either.

I think John McCain simply knows what he's doing.

Obama and Hillary are slapping each other so hard and so fast right now that neither of them -- whoever wins the Democratic primary -- will emerge undamaged. McCain, meanwhile, has quietly taken the high road. Perhaps a bit too high for some people's tastes, but it's a sound strategy nonetheless: Why trade blows with your opponents when they're already pummeling each other?

re: #74 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

So one can have one's cake and eat it too!

Mmm. Cake.

I already had some today!

re: #58 zombie

There is something to that. After all, Bush distanced himself from the Swift Boaters, and they proved to be most effective in defeating Kerry.

BTW: it's good to see you back!

re: #76 hrhamilton

The third party is confined to the Capitol broom closet since that is about how much power third parties have in our "first past the post" election system.

Besides, the Dems should split up before the GOP.

Imagine Democrat Balkanization (without the actual violence)...

C'mon. You folks are all wrong, wrong, wrong. I got this in the mail today. We really need to ponder this.

"We in Holland cannot figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election.

"On the Democrat side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a bastard lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.

"On the Republican side, you have a true war hero married to a beautiful blond with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there really a contest here?"

re: #58 zombie

I sure hope so.

I'd still rather have a Ted Nugent / R Lee Ermey '08 ticket, though.

re: #18 beblebrox

Bingo.

If McCain, or the RNC, really wanted the ad to be pulled, the ad would be pulled.

By publicly criticizing the NC GOP, McCain offers the appearance of being above dirty politics. It helps to maintain the "Maverick" fiction. By keeping in the news cycle something that would have otherwise been largely ignored nationally, the NC ad gets played repeatedly - for free! - on major media outlets.

Listen to what McCain said. He's disassociating from false accusations of racism which NONE of us need, since they ARE FALSE--i hope we can say that about our lizardly selves.

Since Obama supporters & campaign manager Plouffe have said only racists will vote for McCain, it's good to point out McCain's Republican party IS the party of Lincoln (Emancipators), Teddy Roosevelt (trust busting & national park building & sending the US Navy round the world) & Ronald Reagan (who had democrats defecting to Reagan republicanism).

Republicans had women & black candidates for president first, and they were spirited, respectful candidacies.

Let the Dems wallow in their swillish stuff, WE don't need to go there.

re: #58 zombie

Here's an interesting possibility:

McCain is actually signalling to US -- we independent bloggers.

Here's what he's saying:

"I will take the high road -- absolutely no negative ads, and I will not attack my opponents. Strictly a positive 'message campaign.'

However, that means it is up to YOU, my unaffiliated supporters, to be my attack dogs. I want you to take Obama (or Hillary) down, yet I also want to be able to honestly disassociate myself from you."

That way, we get the best of both worlds.

We'll SwiftBlog Obama while McCain keeps his hands clean.

How about it? I'm OK with that.

Dammit Zombie, you have put truth to the old saying 'a day without zombie, is like a day with out sunshine'. Good to see you back!

re: #31 bosforus...McCain's idea of 'reailty' is doing whatever he can to keep the dems happy. Hopefully, come the general election, he'll turn on 'em...

Why? They're his constituency!

Ain't nobody in the race working for us. Nobody.

I just wish we had a conservative to vote for.

A Conservative is not the same as 'more conservative than a socialist'

Seems like MCCAIN Feingold campaign finance reform has taken leadership ability away from the candidates. If he wishes he were the repub mainly in control of the message (which always made sense to me! before MFreform), then he should get rid of the reform and let the chips fall where they may. To complain now, when it's working just as he set it up, is sort of silly. Freedom, not govt control!

re: #80 Cognito

Somebody get me a drink... I just agreed with a Cognito post!

I wanted to think McCain is being tone deaf to the Right with this move, but I think he's playing this all kinds of smart. He gets to take the moral high ground, ala Obama, say he's running a clean, high-minded campaign.

And everyone talks about the ad, and the news outlets keep playing the clip of that tool saying "G*d D*** America..!".

Bravo sir, I may have misunderestimated you!

/W off

Hello. I'm John McCain and I do not support ads promoting my candidacy unless everybody is smiling, happy, and appear medicated.

re: #85 Fasternu426

I sure hope so.

I'd still rather have a Ted Nugent / R Lee Ermey '08 ticket, though.

Hunting would not only be allowed, but required.

and we'd each get a watermelon to target practice with.

i guess it is racist to even mention the "messiah"? and any 'person of color' connected to him.

re: #58 zombie

Here's an interesting possibility:

McCain is actually signalling to US -- we independent bloggers.

What's the frequency, Zombie?... ;)

(Time to step away from the keyboard for a bit?)

re: #73 doppelganglander

Swiftblogging -- is that original? I like it very much.

Yeah, I just made it up as I was typing!

Cog-ni-to you bs pummel's all reason.

re: #77 Ojoe

"Swiftblogging" good rotating title.

Swiftblog! Swiftblog!

Here is my official I heart McCain T-shirt.

Some people piss ya off so bad ya just gotta love'em!

He certainly does.

re: #41 rageman

Another "diss" to the conservatives. McCain better pick a heck of a good VP.

I fail to see how that makes a significant difference. He won't listen to anyone, not even his VP, who disagrees with him. Other than breaking ties in the Senate, a VP has exactly zero power an influence beyond what the President allows him.

re: #95 LanceKates

Hunting would not only be allowed, but required.

and we'd each get a watermelon to target practice with.

Ted Nugent for Secretary of Homeland Security!

Gog-in-toes, you bs pummeled mirrors.

re: #39 buzzsawmonkey

heh!

If it isn't racist to call David Duke a racist, then it isn't racist to call "Rev" Wright a racist.

That's how it works.

re: #80 Cognito

Why trade blows with your opponents when they're already pummeling each other?

That's all fine and good if he wants to wait until after the convention, but why attack your own supporters? That's suicide.

re: #47 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

The Doctor/Captain Kirk '08

Wait, why am I #2?

re: #80 Cognito

He needs to stay in the fray to remain in the public eye - or else suffer the same problem as all the other politicians who thought they could stay out of the limelight for weeks and months on end and win elections.

Had he stopped with yesterday's comments, that would have been enough (*Dayenu!*) but he's instead chosen to drop 50 and fire for effect on the NC GOP.

He's going to need the state and local GOP to get the vote out for him, and if he's so quick to go after the NC GOP, why would anyone else go out and do work for him?

Consider this ad was targeted for NC only. In years gone by, that's only who would've seen it. Now it's viral and actually it's pointless even paying to air it now.

Obama has already suffered more damage from it, and now it appears he's in trouble in Indiana.

Operation Chaos, baby!

re: #106 LanceKates

If it isn't racist to call David Duke a racist, then it isn't racist to call "Rev" Wright a racist.

That's how it works.

Racist!

Is it not true that he needs disavow connection to this and the future 527 commercials soon to come? Why does he have to own them. He needs deny, to disavow. The goal is to sit them out as bystander and reap reward.

/just a driveby

re: #95 LanceKates

Hunting would not only be allowed, but required.

and we'd each get a watermelon to target practice with.

I hate watermelons!

re: #18 beblebrox

personally i think it's politically brilliant. disavow yourself, giving yourself plausible deniability, while at the same time propelling a state ad to national prominence.

* * *
Thank you. McCain's conserving campaign war chest & staying above the fray, good things in my book. We need decent people to agree with decency & party of Lincoln's better angels of our nature.

McCain today in a blog interview did point out Hamas supports Obama, while McCain is Hamas' nightmare.

We need the American people on board to fight Hamas & Carter's crew.

re: #103 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Ted Nugent for Secretary of Homeland Security!

I watch his show on the Outdoor Channel.

He's a friggen hoot. I'd vote for "The Nuge"

This must have been the way it happened to the Whigs.

re: #108 JamesTKirk

Wait, why am I #2?

No offense, but I think The Doctor is a hottie. I mean, dude, he can travel in time!

re: #108 JamesTKirk

Wait, why am I #2?

because sleeping with green women doesn't trump having the Tardis and a sonic screwdriver.

Gag-neet-too, go snowboarding with Al Bonehead.

[Link: www.timberlinelodge.com...]

by Monday, 800 inches in one season

400 normal
so
400 more

nice, this "snowboarding" of the dumb ass commine msm
bunch of low classed liars and frauds supporting lower life scum

re: #103 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Isn't "Pulchritude" the same as er, what the germans call
"Grossebusten"?

What was the expression (I saw here yesterday)?

If your opponents are busy trying to eat each other, pass the salt and excuse yourself from the table..(?)

re: #111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Racist!

NO, not racist.

Typical White Person.

Oh wait.... racist. nevermind.

*grin*

re: #80 Cognito

I think John McCain simply knows what he's doing.

Obama and Hillary are slapping each other so hard and so fast right now that neither of them -- whoever wins the Democratic primary -- will emerge undamaged. McCain, meanwhile, has quietly taken the high road. Perhaps a bit too high for some people's tastes, but it's a sound strategy nonetheless: Why trade blows with your opponents when they're already pummeling each other?

Exactly.

The time to go negative is late in the campaign. By doing it too early, you look mean-spirited and like you have no positive message of your own.

Also, there's little purpose to attacking the Dems until they have chosen a candidate. McCain may as well hold his fire and save his money until H or O is selected at the Dem convention. THEN start pummeling the nominee in September and October.