Thank You

I thought his first name was Barack, when did he change it to Tom?

Gotta love the cognitive dissonance in the demonrats camp.

/thank you Charles for a new thread.

Never fall in love with a politician. They break your heart every time.

Oh how I wish Wright kept his mouth shut so Obama could win

Uncle Tom and Aunt Jeremimiah?

and then spoke up after he won the nomination so Obama would lose the general

So being a "progressive" means supporting racism, believing that the US gov't is intentionally injecting AIDS into blacks, etc. And Sharpton also criticized Obama for not speaking out forcefully enough against the cop verdict in NYC also. Will Obama start to lose the radical left now? I tend to doubt it, but who knows.

a weak man and a standard politician

I've been sayin' this since day one, before I could prove it. They wouldn't get into politics if they weren't ... politicians! There's a no brainer.

The meltdown over there is going to be a sight to behold when Obama loses the nomination.

re: #10 Opilio

The meltdown over there is going to be a sight to behold when Obama loses the nomination.

I can only imagine with a smile on my face. What will happen to dkos.com is the question I've been asking myself for a while.

Thanks for the new thread, Charles.

Intelligent Design kicks Evolutionary Theory's ass.

Or vice versa.

/runz away

re: #10 Opilio

We will have to see what happens in the rest of the primaries. (did I get that right? still partially confused by your system. :))

Sooo....

Anyone wanna discuss, say, pro-life vs. pro-choice?

/ducking and running...

And just to rub salt on the Kos Kiddies wounds, Gallup has Hillary ahead by one point.

Waffles of Hope are getting soggy.

re: #14 Clemente

Sooo....

Anyone wanna discuss, say, pro-life vs. pro-choice?

/ducking and running...

*punt* Back to the dungeon troll. :)

But I am disgusted with him!

Well, that makes 2 of us. LOL

I hate the notion that as soon as any black man expresses an opinion outside the Run DNC groupthink mentality, he risks being slapped with the Uncle Tom label. Jeesh. I'm no fan of Obama's leftist ideology, but I say if he wants to throw Jeremiah under the bus, let him do it.

re: #13 BlueCanuck

We will have to see what happens in the rest of the primaries. (did I get that right? still partially confused by your system. :))

That's ok, so are we.

re: #12 Vinnie

Love to hear Rev. Wright do 20 minutes on evolution. That would be entertaining.

He is a weak man.

He strives to rise too quickly; he seeks out marxists for mentors; he craves legitimacy from 'authentic' black leaders; he has a zelig personality [i.e. tabla rasa]. Alone, these would not raise eyebrows, together they add up to deep-seated abandonment issues.

His quick rise is to prove his father wrong for leaving; his search for marxists and angry black men is a quest for his father; and his well practiced blank slate persona is subconsciously crafted to leave him ready to be whatever his absent father wants him to be upon his return.

The man is lost... how can he lead?

I can't believe I'm in agreement with a Kos-ie. My main assessment of Obama has been that he is weak.

His policy ideas stink too.

re: #14 Clemente

I'm you're biggest fan.

/I'm going to Hell for that

Onward to Denver!

re: #22 stevieray

Well said.

So I saw Obama when he was in Terre Haute, Indiana a few weeks ago (had really great seats!). Now I am going to see Hillary this Thursday. I'm excited to see both of them, but wouldn't ever vote for either.

Oh, and the tickets are free...

On Topic: Spelled differently, but stop by "Sleeping Lizzards" in Denton, TX when around. (page 12 of PDF document).

re: #21 HelloDare

Rev. Wright on Evolution:

"3 million years ago we were ALL happy eating bugs and living in trees. God DAMN America for making us live in 10 million dollar mansions and drive SUVs!1!"

So now for the next step in Operation Chaos.

The Entropy Option. That is where we convince all of the Obamites that the Hillerites conspired with the conservatives vis a vis Rush Limbaugh to keep Obama and his followers down.

There is enough truth in that for the Nutroots and the Moonbats to go completely off the deep end with it, guaranteeing a redux of the 1968 riots when the Dems meet in Denver.

re: #13 BlueCanuck

We will have to see what happens in the rest of the primaries. (did I get that right? still partially confused by your system. :))

Theoretically, Clinton could sweep the remainder of the primaries and not catch Obama's lead in pledged delegates. But the Democrats in their epic stupidity decided that about 20% of the voting delegates to their convention will not have been selected by any vote of the people. Instead they are members of Congress, state governors, and other assorted party hacks. So now with things nearly tied, there aren't enough delegates left to be selected in the primaries to give either candidate the simple majority needed. So there's like 700 wild cards that will get to decide this thing.

What a system.

re: #29 Vinnie

Rev. Wright on Evolution:

"3 million years ago we were ALL happy eating bugs and living in trees. God DAMN America for making us live in 10 million dollar mansions and drive SUVs!1!"

I wish Wright could've controlled himself just a little more so that Obama wouldn't have a reason to distance himself so far from him. He could've been a more effective wedge.

Now is the Nader moment!

Wait a minute, I thought they loved Obama and hated Hillary?

/so, I'm confused, what do we have for breakfast tomorrow, waffles or pandercakes?

Please note: this is not a troll despite what the commenters say. Check his history, this is a long standing Koskid. He's critical of Obama for not being progressive enough.

Well, I guess Obama's latest speech left his supporters only two options to choose from:

(1) "What a brilliant, courageous, principled uniter of the people Obama is! Imagine, standing up for what he believes in like that, telling it like it is, keeping it real, even though doing so meant repudiating a man whom he respected and admired for 20 years. I'm so impressed by Obama's moral fortitude right now that I'll willing to overlook his failure to speak out against Wright's identical rantings for the past 20 years. I'm even willing to overlook the fact that Obama actually defended Reverend Wright's identical rantings just a few weeks ago, in Philadelphia. Because Obama is just THAT WONDERFUL."

(2) "That two-faced bastard. In my fantasies, I dreamt that Obama was the real deal, a radical leftist, whitey-hating class warrior who was finally going to stick it to the man from the highest office in the land. Finally, I thought, a candidate who shared the most extreme left-wing theories that I could dream up, and then shifted them three MORE notches to the left! Finally, I thought, a candidate who understood that the U.S. Government invented AIDS, that Israel and the Jews cause all wars, that the minds of white people are genetically inferior to those of black people. I imagined the hammer and sickle flying from the White House, and a burial at Arlington National Cemetery for Fidel Castro, complete with a full military parade down Pennsylvania Avenue. I imagined Louis Farrakhan as Secretary of Health and Human Services. But now I see that Obama is just like every other "mainstream" politician: a fascist right-wing oppressor. I feel betrayed. Now I shall have to search for someone farther to the left."

I suspect that most of Obama's supporters will break toward (1). This particular Kosling appears to have opted for (2).

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Please note: this is not a troll despite what the commenters say. Check his history, this is a long standing Koskid. He's critical of Obama for not being progressive enough.

Oh poo. Just when I started to feel comfortable with the idea of "The Kos Dekline"

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Please note: this is not a troll despite what the commenters say. Check his history, this is a long standing Koskid. He's critical of Obama for not being progressive enough.

But hey, maybe this fringe idea will make its away into the minds of the mainstream zObambie

Brain-damaged Kossack wrote:

Today, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Barack Obama for what he truly is: a weak man and a standard politician. I really never thought I would say this...

But I am disgusted with him!

Boohoo hoo leetle Kossack! Did widdums get his hopes all dashed?

Maybe it's not too late to switch your leetle Kossack mind and puny support over to Hillary - after all, she does have a secret weapon when it comes to dealing with terrorists.

re: #19 Mich-again

I'm no fan of Obama's leftist ideology, but I say if he wants to throw Jeremiah under the bus, let him do it.

Heck, he already threw his own grandmother under the bus, so why not Jeremiah?

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Please note: this is not a troll despite what the commenters say. Check his history, this is a long standing Koskid. He's critical of Obama for not being progressive enough.

Jeez... what does he want? Obama in camo and a beret?

re: #32 bosforus

Obama spent 20 years going to Wright's sermons. Distancing is not an option for him now.

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Please note: this is not a troll despite what the commenters say. Check his history, this is a long standing Koskid. He's critical of Obama for not being progressive enough.

In SF you WILL find those who think that Obama is too far to the Right.
Amazing.

I think they want an excuse to jump back on the Hillary train.

Glenn beck: The teachings of James Cone, the mentor of Rev. Wright.

re: #44 ThomasTheConfessor

I think they want an excuse to jump back on the Hillary train.

We must not let them.

We must convince them that it was a conspiracy to oppress them.

Stir the pot.

Free the left to really be who they are deep down in their core when they meet in Denver.

re: #46 Syrah

We must not let them.

We must convince them that it was a conspiracy to oppress them.

Stir the pot.

Free the left to really be who they are deep down in their core when they meet in Denver.

How?

re: #47 ThomasTheConfessor

How?

Sponsor day trips to Boulder.

What irritates me is he keeps referring to Crazy Uncle Louis as "minister" farrakhan. That is usually a sign of respect, as someone you look up to.

re: #22 stevieray

A perfect description of a perfect vehicle for the evil one to use for what has been said will come.....your description is too close to the mark.....brilliant perception....scary.....

re: #42 Vinnie

Obama spent 20 years going to Wright's sermons. Distancing is not an option for him now.

But Obama supporters don't care about that. They think his repudiation is enough to keep him going. If Wright had played it a little cooler Obama wouldn't have been so quick to repudiate and in the meantime Wright could've said some more wacked out crazy talk (toned down just a little) all with Obama's approval. A heavier case could be brought against Obama in my scenario. I'm not saying he isn't sitting in a big pile of s*it right now, I'm just saying.

re: #44 ThomasTheConfessor

I think they want an excuse to jump back on the Hillary train.

Heck, throw 'em both under the bus. Vote Ayers... he's really dedicated! Nothing more authentic than a decade living underground!

Eating their own again, is anyone shocked?

Only now is he disgusted with him, Ha.

To be honest, I don't think I believe anything either of these knuckleheads have to say.

It could just be a good cop / bad cop routine.

re: #47 ThomasTheConfessor

How?

Tell them that what they want to suspect is true. That Obama is losing because dark nefarious rovian forces have conspired against them. They live for that conspiracy crap. Lets serve it to them till they choke.

The Daily Kos is home of the lightnin fast mood swing. "The scales fell from his eyes!" oh brother, as if Obama was something other than just a politician. The ability of the left for self-dillusion is almost comical so for the writers sake let me cut his meat for him as follows:

1. Barack is a smart lawyer but he isn't a career attorney
2. He hangs around the local politicos and thinks that its the same as at the national level but it isn't, he has been in a fever swamp the whole time and wasn't smart enough to see it past Wright and Ayers etc. now it wont wash off.
3. He sleazed his way into politics by scarfing up a state house seat and then NOT giving it back later when its former owner came a calling.
4. His wife and he live in an anti-american bubble but they cant admit it out loud.
5. he is the left most senator in the US senate. PERIOD.
6. He has almost NO experience as a senator.
7. Being President is the hardest job in the world and he has almost no skill set, no experience, and no clue what it entails but he just wants the job which should alarm people by itself.
8. He is basically a communist even if he doesn't know it, his dad was, he sought commies out at college and afterwords wherever he went.
9. His background is so odd he cant relate to most normal american demographic groups and neither can his wife. They just make great egg-head guests at a cocktail party but if it wasn't for his wife he would be like a man without a country, detached and outside looking in.
10. He is a very eloquent liar and he knows it, he just doesn't think you do. He suffers from assuming he is always the smartest person in the room - narcissism being a liberal pre-requisite.

I'm speechless. "Uncle Tom?"

re: #42 Vinnie

Obama spent 20 years going to Wright's sermons. Distancing is not an option for him now.

He sure is gonna try it, though.

re: #47 ThomasTheConfessor

How?

Blame it all on KKKarl Rove. That always works.

I have reviewed all three tapes, post Sunday. I believe Obama is telling the truth. He took the pulpit crap as "ranting". But clearly Ms Michelle took it to heart.

Today, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Barack Obama for what he truly is: a weak man and a standard politician.

In the words of Abraham Lincoln... "Duh."

I'm always a little saddened to see basic common sense appearing as some kind of blinding, shocking revelation to a leftie. You mean he isn't the savior of us all, after all? I'm shocked that a politician could be... ONLY HUMAN!

He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!

"I cannot disown Reverend Wright any more than I can disown the black community" -Hussein

What will this "black community" have to say now?

re: #50 Ma Sands

Stan would have to fight Michelle for control... an epic battle indeed. Steel cage death match, winner take all.... and I really mean all.

I wouldn't put too much behind this guy representing DKos as a whole. Just look at his profile description.

I'm an insidious, anarchist, progressive working for the military industrial complex. Conservatives pay me to annoy them!

But clearly Ms Michelle took it to heart. -pat

Will she be next?

Barack Hussein "Uncle Tom" Obama.
Has a nice ring to it.

re: #59 Last Mohican

Yes, but that's why the internet invented the term....

EPIC FAIL

re: #49 hangingchad

What irritates me is he keeps referring to Crazy Uncle Louis as "minister" farrakhan. That is usually a sign of respect, as someone you look up to.

Christopher Hitchens made reference once to race hustler types being (paraphrasing) "any schmuck who can get 'Reverend' put in front of his name".

I'm told by old people that titles like "Reverend" used to mean something. Those times are long gone.

re: #64 stevieray

So far, step by step, no one has been allowed to get in the way.....just sayin'.....

Uncle Tombama?

I read quite a few of the Obama/Wright diaries and comments over there today.   While there are cracks appearing in the groupthink, the vast majority still think Obama walks on water, this is all part of his masterful plan, or the fault of the right-wing racist MSM, or Wright was ok right up to yesterday when he totally lost it for the first time evah, yadda yadda yadda. They're gonna maintain a dangerous level of denial right up to the point when he loses the nomination or the general.   What happens after that is anyone's guess.

Uncle Otomba?

re: #71 esch

Uncle Tombama?

Ha. I didn't think 'Obama' could sound any more African. 'Tombama' does it though.

re: #22 stevieray

He is a weak man.

He strives to rise too quickly; he seeks out marxists for mentors; he craves legitimacy from 'authentic' black leaders; he has a zelig personality [i.e. tabla rasa]. Alone, these would not raise eyebrows, together they add up to deep-seated abandonment issues.

His quick rise is to prove his father wrong for leaving; his search for marxists and angry black men is a quest for his father; and his well practiced blank slate persona is subconsciously crafted to leave him ready to be whatever his absent father wants him to be upon his return.

The man is lost... how can he lead?

So much of leftism comes down to prolonged adolescence and failure of the family. It's a wonder these people can even feed themselves.

re: #31 Opilio

But the Democrats in their epic stupidity decided that about 20% of the voting delegates to their convention will not have been selected by any vote of the people.

Isn't that the whole point? Make sure the people don't choose the wrong candidate? As I recall the people voted (late 70s? early 80s?) for a not-approved-by-the-party-leadership candidate, so they changed the rules to prevent that from happening again. I'm so glad this is coming back to bite them hard.

1332 comments on the last thread. That must have been interesting.

re: #77 HelloDare

Quite a bit of it was about shoes.....and purses..... :)

re: #63 hangingchad

"I cannot disown Reverend Wright any more than I can disown the black community" -Hussein

What will this "black community" have to say now?

Kill Whitey!

At least, that's what they'll say in church. Out on the street they'll just burn a Jew or three, break some car windows, maybe rob a store?

Denver is going to be fun this year.

Now that he has thrown Wright under the bus like his evil racist Gramma can we now please stop referring to what Wright said as "snippets taken out of context". I don't like being told that not hearing the WHOLE ten hour sermon "nullifies" my question and frankly NOBODY sells DVD's at their church titled "snippets out of context". When you record a DVD to sell in your church of your own favy rants you call them "Wrights greatest hits!". This allows us to stop pretending that someone came in with their hidden gotcha-cam and filmed him like you would a bootleg grateful dead show - This is his own emmy reel available for a devotional contribution of $29.95 with the proceeds going towards the all white neighborhood mansion.

I'm told by old people that titles like "Reverend" used to mean something. Those times are long gone. -PtheO

You mean Reverend Sharpton or the Great Reverend Jackson are shmucks. Sharpton, Jackson and Wright must have all gone to the same seminary, maybe it was one of those online deals. "Send in $49.95 and you too can be called Reverend, get the respect you deserve."

re: #76 jenv

Isn't that the whole point? Make sure the people don't choose the wrong candidate? As I recall the people voted (late 70s? early 80s?) for a not-approved-by-the-party-leadership candidate, so they changed the rules to prevent that from happening again. I'm so glad this is coming back to bite them hard.

My understanding is that their current system is a reaction to the selection and subseqent electoral massacre of George McGovern in 1972.

re: #81 hangingchad

I'm told by old people that titles like "Reverend" used to mean something. Those times are long gone. -PtheO

You mean Reverend Sharpton or the Great Reverend Jackson are shmucks. Sharpton, Jackson and Wright must have all gone to the same seminary, maybe it was one of those online deals. "Send in $49.95 and you too can be called Reverend, get the respect you deserve."

I'm pretty sure 'Reverend' has something to do with the word 'reverent' and neither of those three 'reverends' is that.

I think Sharpton is getting warmed up for Denver in NYC.

I'm pretty sure 'Reverend' has something to do with the word 'reverent' and neither of those three 'reverends' is that.
-bosforus

Do I hear an amen!

re: #77 HelloDare

1332 comments on the last thread. That must have been interesting.

It really got interesting when somebody brought chocolate into the discussion. Otherwise it was a little dull.

Don't be fooled.

This is the Barry & Jerry scam.

re: #76 jenv

Isn't that the whole point? Make sure the people don't choose the wrong candidate? As I recall the people voted (late 70s? early 80s?) for a not-approved-by-the-party-leadership candidate, so they changed the rules to prevent that from happening again. I'm so glad this is coming back to bite them hard.

Guess them Democrat nominatin' chickens are finally coming home to roost!!!

re: #78 Ma Sands

Quite a bit of it was about shoes.....and purses..... :)

Not to mention my pathetic attempts at humor.

re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor

So much of leftism comes down to prolonged adolescence and failure of the family. It's a wonder these people can even feed themselves.

WOW! homerun - its like he could have been cast in the peter sellers role of "Chauncy Gardner" in "Being There"

....you tell Raphael...

re: #32 bosforus

I wish Wright could've controlled himself just a little more so that Obama wouldn't have a reason to distance himself so far from him. He could've been a more effective wedge.

Maybe this is a plan Wright and Obama came up with?

tinfoil off/

This is the Barry & Jerry scam -lummox

I smell/taste another Ben and Jerry's flavor of the month coming.

I am just not sure if I want to smell or taste it though.

re: #82 Opilio

My understanding is that their current system is a reaction to the selection and subseqent electoral massacre of George McGovern in 1972.

Here's the wiki on the history of superdelegates.

re: #91 Hard Right

Maybe this is a plan Wright and Obama came up with?

tinfoil off/

This is one of the scenarios being seriously argued over at dKos. Seriously.

I had resigned myself to still working hard for him and for the Progressive cause!

What exactly is the progressive cause? I can't seem to pin it down to more than "I want what I want, and you will get what I want".

re: #91 Hard Right

Maybe this is a plan Wright and Obama came up with?

tinfoil off/

Don't discount that too readily. (I don't mean that you should believe it.) We need to help the nutroots and the moonbats to believe that kind of craziness.

The goofier the conspiracy theory the better.

We need to help them work themselves up into frothing lather by the time they all meet in Denver.

re: #95 jenv

What exactly is the progressive cause? I can't seem to pin it down to more than "I want what I want, and you will get what I want".

Lefty just wants free stuff.

re: #68 Vinnie

Yes, this epic failure could be quite a sight to behold. The nostalgia buff in me hopes we get treated to one of these:

"Yes, I spoke FOR Reverend Wright before I spoke AGAINST him."

re: #57 deanayer

Possibly the best Obama analysis I have ever read. Succinct and revealing. There were many things about BHO that I could not put my finger on until now.

re: #85 hangingchad

I'm pretty sure 'Reverend' has something to do with the word 'reverent' and neither of those three 'reverends' is that.
-bosforus

Do I hear an amen!

No! That would be irreverent!

re: #53 sngnsgt

Eating their own again, is anyone shocked?

No.

There is a severe socio-cultural pathology in the African American community.

It's about who has the "authority" to speak for the oppressed. And that "authority" means "power".

.

re: #86 Syrah

It really got interesting when somebody brought chocolate into the discussion. Otherwise it was a little dull.

Chocolate? Have I got a job for you...

Waitafrgginmnitt...

Is this some strange double-reverse twist on Operation Chaos? Look at the poster's name, Kaos 237. Some odd sympathy ploy?

re: #91 Hard Right

Maybe this is a plan Wright and Obama came up with?

tinfoil off/

I would possibly agree with you if Wright's ego permitted him to stick to a plan on such a grand scale.

What exactly is the progressive cause? I can't seem to pin it down to more than "I want what I want, and you will get what I want".

Change everything. There are no bad ideas, only bad implementation.

re: #103 princetrumpet

Waitafrgginmnitt...

Is this some strange double-reverse twist on Operation Chaos? Look at the poster's name, Kaos 237. Some odd sympathy ploy?

The poster been on dKos at least since January. I believe that predates Operation Chaos.

Every chance I get I tell folks to read Obama's book. Everything to date is exactly on point and within character. He doesn't deserve to be a city alderman let alone a Senator or (gasp) POTUS!

Think what a merry do-gooder filled with self righteousness you have to be to call yourself a "progressive" ! Like others arent interested in progress and that there wouldnt be any progress if it wasnt for you and WORST OF ALL you think that whatever you do, no matter how ill concieved (like ethanol in your gas tank while millions starve from it) is PROGRESS !

Look everyone i'm a progressive ! I bring you PROGRESS! now kiss my ring, i'll be on my carbon-credit jet with John Kerry while you lower your carbon footprint to zero by killing yourself.

re: #95 jenv

What exactly is the progressive cause? I can't seem to pin it down to more than "I want what I want, and you will get what I want".

I read a manifesto of sorts at a liberal blog. It basically said words to the effect of the ideas of right and wrong are not constant but subject to change with the times. Nothing too surprising. Basically, if they think they're right about something, they'll scream about it until they get their way, and even after.

re: #107 toomanysnax

I'm willing to read it. I'm just not willing to give that POS the royalties that he'll get if I buy it.

Maybe tonight I can find a copy if I just search through dumpsters on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

re: #109 bosforus

I read a manifesto of sorts at a liberal blog. It basically said words to the effect of the ideas of right and wrong are not constant but subject to change with the times. Nothing too surprising. Basically, if they think they're right about something, they'll scream about it until they get their way, and even after.

That is classic Nihilism. Every action is no different than any other. Morality is dead, God is dead. It is a mental disorder, not a philosophy.

re: #110 Last Mohican

I'm willing to read it. I'm just not willing to give that POS the royalties that he'll get if I buy it.

Maybe tonight I can find a copy if I just search through dumpsters on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

*spews beer*

re: #102 stevieray

Chocolate? Have I got a job for you...

That looks interesting.

I work in the research world. We do these kinds of studies.

Soy has other interesting side effects that involve estrogens that I would think would only complicate this study. The Chocolate company must be the sponsor otherwise they would focus just on the flavinoids.

The fewer variables the better.

_{Unfortunately I am neither menopausal nor diabetic so I would not qualify as a participant.}

re: #96 Syrah

Don't discount that too readily. (I don't mean that you should believe it.) We need to help the nutroots and the moonbats to believe that kind of craziness.

The goofier the conspiracy theory the better.

We need to help them work themselves up into frothing lather by the time they all meet in Denver.

Wright is a racist no doubt, but I am having a hard time believing he is this foolish.

In life when trying to understand the motivations of others I have observed that when we are faced with the choice between someone being stupid or evil we usually choose stupid. Somehow it is more comforting, plus we get to feel superior.

re: #113 Syrah

That looks interesting.

I work in the research world. We do these kinds of studies.

Soy has other interesting side effects that involve estrogens that I would think would only complicate this study. The Chocolate company must be the sponsor otherwise they would focus just on the flavinoids.

The fewer variables the better.

_{Unfortunately I am neither menopausal nor diabetic so I would not qualify as a participant.}

Lie! Its free chocolate!

Well, time to catch some shut eye. Tonight's movie to fall asleep to: The Vampire Bat. Hmmmm, what could this one be about?
See ya tomorrow!

Almost 2:00 a.m. already? Ugh. Goodnight all.

re: #106 Opilio

The poster been on dKos at least since January. I believe that predates Operation Chaos.

Unless...

dunh dunh DUUUUNH!

it's actually a secret identity of Rush Limbaugh's

re: #114 Whammo

I think it boils down to his, and Obamas, living in a bubble (much like the Lib elite in their's).

It doesn't sound crazy or foolish at all to them. They just forget that they're not preaching to just the choir anymore

Shockingly, Wright and I had the same doctoral advisor at Univ of Chicago. A lefty, of course.

re: #120 hermeneutics

Shockingly, Wright and I had the same doctoral advisor at Univ of Chicago. A lefty, of course.

What doctorat? Please don't say religion.

re: #114 Whammo

Wright is a racist no doubt, but I am having a hard time believing he is this foolish.

In life when trying to understand the motivations of others I have observed that when we are faced with the choice between someone being stupid or evil we usually choose stupid. Somehow it is more comforting, plus we get to feel superior.

I take back the part about Wright being without a doubt a racist, however he does play one on Sunday mornings. Good money in it I hear. Why would a man like Wright wamt to live among the white devils?

re: #114 Whammo

Wright is a racist no doubt, but I am having a hard time believing he is this foolish.

In life when trying to understand the motivations of others I have observed that when we are faced with the choice between someone being stupid or evil we usually choose stupid. Somehow it is more comforting, plus we get to feel superior.

It is also more difficult for some to assign "evil" to other people. To believe that someone is "evil" is to believe that there is something irredeemable about that person. Something that makes them less then human.

That is really not that easy to do.

We often find it more comforting to think that person is just ill-informed, misguided, or just too stupid to be held accountable for there errors. Such a person is redeemable. We can still accept them as brothers and sisters at some primary level.

Unfortunately, some people really are evil.

re: #121 AmeriDan

I better not say. Too many eyes out there.

re: #119 AmeriDan

I think it boils down to his, and Obamas, living in a bubble (much like the Lib elite in their's).

It doesn't sound crazy or foolish at all to them. They just forget that they're not preaching to just the choir anymore

You're probably right, I just like to take a glance from every angle.

re: #121 AmeriDan

What doctorat? Please don't say religion.

I am sure that is humor. lol

re: #124 hermeneutics

I better not say. Too many eyes out there.

If it was religion... good for you, but that advisor let one "slip through the cracks with Uncle Wright.

re: #124 hermeneutics

I better not say. Too many eyes out there.

And one handshake. lol

re: #123 Syrah

It is also more difficult for some to assign "evil" to other people. To believe that someone is "evil" is to believe that there is something irredeemable about that person. Something that makes them less then human.

That is really not that easy to do.

We often find it more comforting to think that person is just ill-informed, misguided, or just too stupid to be held accountable for there errors. Such a person is redeemable. We can still accept them as brothers and sisters at some primary level.

Unfortunately, some people really are evil.

Yes, of course you are correct. And I also believe that people will exploit this unwillingness to view others as evil by playing dumb.

re: #126 pat

I am sure that is humor. lol

Yes, at wright expense, not hermeneutics'.

re: #127 AmeriDan

I'm sorta disgusted, to be honest.

re: #131 hermeneutics

I'm sorta disgusted, to be honest.

As you should be. Notice how with all the early defense of Wright, there hasn't been one non-disqusting thing presented?

re: #124 hermeneutics

But I thought Wright's only degree from the University of Chicago was a master's degree, from the Divinity School.

Ah well, I don't want to dig too deep. I'll change the subject. Look, here is Jeremiah Wright as a Navy corpsman at Bethesda Naval Hospital, preparing a piece of tape to be affixed to LBJ before surgery. Wright is standing behind the I.V. pole. Behind him, partially obscured, is Bill Moyers.

re: #115 stevieray

Lie! Its free chocolate!

Very tempting.

I am just not that good at lying.

re: #133 Last Mohican

I believe he also has a Masters Degree in Advanced Race Baiting.

Based on.. you know, how the ignorant masses would have voted... if they actually voted..

LANSING, Mich. - Michigan Democrats working to get the state's delegates seated at the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday suggested splitting them 69-59 between presidential candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.

HT - Ace

"his comments were not only divisive ... but (his comments) give comfort to those who prey(?) on hate ..."

Seems to me that Obama's apologizing for nuthin.' Again, Obama cleverly accuses conservatives of hating rather than accepting the obvious truth that is is the progressive left, personified by Wright, that is consumed with hate.

He still doesn't get it.

The hate is on his side. Duh!

Kos Kidz r clueless and stupid

re: #13 BlueCanuck

We will have to see what happens in the rest of the primaries. (did I get that right? still partially confused by your system. :))

Our "system" is rapidly becoming something I used to refer to at work as a "Mongolian Cluster F**k" (I know that's not PC... but that's what I called 'em)

re: #136 Yankee Division Son

Based on.. you know, how the ignorant masses would have voted... if they actually voted..

HT - Ace

"Vote, you wanna vote? You can't handle the vote!"

/DNC off

re: #133 Last Mohican

Oh, maybe Wright only got an MA, or an MDiv. Thank God. Still same advisor, though.

Good old lefties eating their own once again. For some, Obama's press conference apostasies cast Barack as either a typical politician or gutless tom. Looks like the progressive-leftist age of aquarius isn't around the corner after all. Thanks to that bastion of the international leftist cause the KGB, Pastor Wright was in all his glory preaching on AIDS.

re: #142 Last Man

Don't you wonder what Wright is thinking now? I betcha he's plotting and angry. The next few days should be fun!

He'll be hard to silence.

Hey, what happened to Sharpton's blockade of NYC? Did anything happen?

The Obama campaign is completely off the tracks now and careening downhill with nobody in the locomotive.

Obama's wife has been a member of that "church" for her entire life. She brought him into that "church." She is, in all likelihood, the reason he waited until the last bleeding second before he pitched Wright off of that runaway train. Now that he's pitched Wright, he has to answer to his wife.

=

Wright is an egotistical bigot (aren't they all?) who can't stand the idea of the pupil besting the master. He has nothing to lose. No matter what becomes of Obama, Wright will still have the ten million dollar retirement estate, the Porsche, and a million dollar book deal.

If this is all it took to wreck Obama's campaign train, and it is, how could anybody possibly want him at the controls of the largest train in human history?

Leaving Obama with a junior senators seat and an angry wife.

WRECKAGE,
R

re: #117 stevieray

Almost 2:00 a.m. already? Ugh. Goodnight all.

that happens to me a *lot* here.....

/and then i stay up longer anyway %-)

A wee bit of hyperbole, no?

Obama's campaign has lost its footing -- agreed -- but it isn't careening downhill. For the hard left, its more like a love affair than a rational choosing of a candidate. They're not ready to divorce him ... yet. Look at the comments in the Kos entry above!

The Kos commenters aren't ready to quit.

This is from National Review, March 18.

Precient?

I think Obama should just pretend he has no idea who Wright is.
You know, the old I've-never-seen-this-man-before-in-my-life trick.
I do that with my children all the time.

re: #144 Render

Obama's wife has been a member of that "church" for her entire life. She brought him into that "church." She is, in all likelihood, the reason he waited until the last bleeding second before he pitched Wright off of that runaway train. Now that he's pitched Wright, he has to answer to his wife.

Are you telling me that Obama is like so many other guys who show up in Church on Sunday, that they are only there because they are p*ssy whipped?

re: #144 Render

what a damn shame...... %-)

re: #133 Last Mohican

But I thought Wright's only degree from the University of Chicago was a master's degree, from the Divinity School.

Ah well, I don't want to dig too deep. I'll change the subject. Look, here is Jeremiah Wright as a Navy corpsman at Bethesda Naval Hospital, preparing a piece of tape to be affixed to LBJ before surgery. Wright is standing behind the I.V. pole. Behind him, partially obscured, is Bill Moyers.

I also got a letter from LBJ. The day I was born.

re: #147 lummox

This is from National Review, March 18.

Precient?

Whoa!
The Kos kids would really go berserk if they found out Obama was reading National Review! :D

re: #147 lummox

You are so right, Lummox -- this is amazing. Here is it for those who didn't follow the link:

Obama's Pastor Plan [Amy Holmes]
I just figured out how Obama gets out of this. It's devious. But it may be only way.

He leaves this thing alone for the time being and suffers through the next few primaries. He hangs onto his pledged delegate lead, makes the argument that pledged delegates are all that matter. So far, polling shows Democratic voters agree.

He prevails and wins the nomination. Then, he deploys The Pastor Plan. It goes like this. Pastor Wright arranges to give a speech. In it, the pastor makes such outlandish and slanderous claims, not unlike we've already heard, that Obama has no choice but to say, "Enough! Jeremiah has gone too far. I cannot abide his divisive, harmful, and inappropriate language. He does not speak for me or my family which is why we must, with heavy hearts, sever our relationship. He will always be a friend and welcome at my door. But I cannot continue to take his counsel, religious or otherwise." It helps here if the pastor has used some swear words and invented new conspiracies.

Obama sends Pastor Wright a heartfelt letter, more in sorrow than in anger, which he posts on his website. He holds a press conference to inform the public that he has spoken with the pastor privately and explained his position. Obama vows to carry on the church's work of charity and compassion. He stages some events showing him involved in a multicultural community service project, visits a West Virginia coal mine, stuff like that. And he exhorts his fellow Americans to join him in the journey toward racial reconciliation.

Timing is key. Sometime right after the inevitable 527 Pastor Wright ads start running. In fact, they can be the pretext of the pastor's speech. The 527 ads provoke the Reverend's fury. Obama reacts. Bam! It's over. Pastor problem solved.

Think the Clintons wouldn't do it?

03/18 11:28 PM [Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Anyone who uses the name "Uncle Tom" as a pejorative is an asshat.

re: #149 freetoken

i thought you went to church to meet women.......

/i might be a red neck %-)

But aren't the pro-Hillary Kossaks still on strike? If so then you gots to dance with the one who brung ya.

re: #146 hermeneutics

"A wee bit of hyperbole, no?"

Nope. A major bit of hyperbole. He's running for president, not dogcatcher. Hyperbole goes with the turf.

===

That delightfully prophetic piece, (gets my vote for a headline piece by Charles), from Amy Holmes is missing something.

The Pastor Plan wouldn't have to exist if the pastor wasn't a problem to begin with.

The pastor is far from the only problem. Obama's got more problems than he has plans.

ABANDON
SHIP,
R

re: #157 Render

R

Do you think Obama will benefit from his denounciation of Wright's "excesses" in the next few days? Not among the Kos sorts, but among more centrist voters?

I guess I'm wondering if Obama ditched Wright now so they'll be plenty of time before the primary to recover. It is only seven days until more primaries including NC which Obama is predicted to win with a landslide.

Kaos237:

“I am just so heartbroken over this whole situation...I really thought we had found someone special. Turns out we've just found another politician.”

Perhaps this will help:

“I just watched Barack throw someone who has been a huge part of his life overboard because a bunch of white-bread advisors told him he had to.” now that the voters see him and his associates for what they really are, Barak Hussein Obama doesn’t want to be next.

Pop Quiz Queston #1: If 6 months ago voters had known that Obama was made of The Wright Stuff. whould Obama have received any votes?

In other words, are any of his victories legitimate?

“And why? Because white America was freaked out by a black preacher!” obviously going to hold Wright and Obama to the same standard to which white America is held.

Pop Quiz Queston #2: Since Wright is retiring to a 93% white neighborhood, should he be treated any differently than his neighbors?

Just out of curiosity, why isn't Wright retiring to a multicultural neighborhood (or does 7% qualify)?

“Today, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Barack Obama for what he truly is: a weak man and a standard politician.”

This would be the intellectual version of being smacked in the mouth by the sidewalk. One more battle scar.

Unfortunately, most basements are made of concrete too.

re: #158 hermeneutics

I think he's got major damage at both ends.

Eight years from now, he could have been unstoppable. They dragged this poor guy in from the cheap seats and put him out on the field as the starting quarterback. He's getting sacked on running plays.

BLOWN
HEADPHONES,
R

As a Republican, I want Clinton to win Indiana decisively and Obama to win NC decisively. I hope Kentucky will go to Clinton, too, as well as WV and PR (which have few electoral votes but they still sound good when you rattle them all off as wins.)

Then whatever remains of Obama's inevitability will be gone, forever, and the two of them can duke it out at their convention.

I can't sleep.

re: #163 hermeneutics

Welcome to Insomniacs 'R' Us. :)

This is my normal working time.

HOOKY,
R

re: #164 BlueCanuck

What are foresters?

re: #167 hermeneutics

A Primary Reserve unit here in Canada. One of only two Forester units in the Commonwealth. The other is the Sherwood Foresters in Nottingham England.

re: #166 ploome hineni

Hiya Ploomster.

NOT
VIN
DIESEL,
R

While I was trying to figure out what happened to Sharpton's threatened shutdown of NYC I found this blog with comments: [Link: gothamist.com...]

THere are a few tidbits in these comments that I didn't pick up in articles.

First, the guy that was shot by the cops, Sean Bell, was a local crack dealer who tried to run over the cops with his car.

And the cops who killed him were also African-American so it can't be a racial crime.

Here are a few pics of a small protest today on Flicker:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

This is what insomniacs do at night!

re: #170 hermeneutics

We are the lizards of the night. Tracking down clues, hints, and facts behind the headlines.

re: #171 BlueCanuck

We are the lizards of the night. Tracking down clues, hints, and facts behind the headlines.

and drinking beer...... %-)

/some of us, anyway.

Every time I hear Obama speak, I can't help but wish that he were honest, that he could be who he says he is, that he could be on our team. There does seem to be something special about him, though it's a case of "close, but no cigar."

Because if you're a person of color (excluding Asians) who does not believe that the government invented AIDS to wipe out non-whites, you are an Uncle Tom.

/ugh...

//wasn't Uncle Tom's Cabin actually influential in ending slavery?

Kaos237, you're missing the real issue.

Jeremiah Wright is clearly just a puppet of The Man, and his constant attempts to draw attention to himself and discredit Barack Obama are just part of the nationwide conspiracy to keep Obama from becoming President. You're doing exactly what whitey wants you to do!

/Do I even have to?

Uncle Tom is a pejorative for an African American who is perceived by others as behaving in a subservient manner to White American authority figures, or as seeking ingratiation with them by way of unnecessary accommodation. The term Uncle Tom comes from the title character of Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel Uncle Tom's Cabin, although there is debate over whether the character himself is deserving of the pejorative attributed to him.[1]
It is commonly used to describe black people whose political views or allegiances are considered by their critics as detrimental to blacks as a group.

From wiki, of course.

And on a side note, the rotating title when I clicked into LGF today:

"why can't i just eat my waffle?"

re: #176 hermeneutics

"oreo" is another unkind term. it refers to the person in question being black on the outside but white on the inside.

re: #176 hermeneutics

...is commonly used to describe black people whose political views or allegiances are considered by their critics as detrimental to blacks as a group.

So if Barack Obama the Democrat is now an "Uncle Tom," and people like JC Watts are Uncle Toms by default because they're Republican...then what is the official "black" party?

re: #177 laZardo

"why can't i just eat my waffle?"

/because your're hungry for pandercakes

re: #179 laZardo
what is the official "black" party?

Hmmmm ... The official party must take up the space between the right of Obama and the left of Watts. Of course, that's a lot of space but that doesn't guarantee that African-Americans can be found there!

For a bit of interesting historic images of Uncle Tom, look at this:

[Link: images.google.com...]

re: #178 redc1c4

The Wiki article also mentioned the pejorative "coconut," which I have never heard but has the same visual image as oreo. Who says this sort of stuff? I've never heard anyone call another person such terms.

re: #182 hermeneutics

The Wiki article also mentioned the pejorative "coconut," which I have never heard but has the same visual image as oreo. Who says this sort of stuff? I've never heard anyone call another person such terms.

i've heard "oreo" used a few times, in the Army & elsewhere.... it's (almost) always black on black, as it's one of those terms only they can use without it being grounds for racism or worse........

(kinda like the "n" word %-)

re: #182 hermeneutics

You won't believe how many ordinary food and snack items count as racial slurs in one form or another...

SnO'bama has set us back...

50 years

In Obama's speech he makes this comment,

“I went to church and listened to sermons. What I heard, there’s an emphasis on importance of social struggle, striving for equality, justice, fairness, a social gospel. Rather than fancy word like black liberation theology, he uses social gospel.”

So he admits that he heard these "social gospels" while he listened to sermons at Trinity Church. Sounds to me like Obama just admitted that he knew Wright was a racist all these years and he did not care until Wright attacked him personally.

re: #162 hermeneutics

As a Republican, I want Clinton to win Indiana decisively and Obama to win NC decisively. I hope Kentucky will go to Clinton, too, as well as WV and PR (which have few electoral votes but they still sound good when you rattle them all off as wins.)

Then whatever remains of Obama's inevitability will be gone, forever, and the two of them can duke it out at their convention.

The longer Obama and, naturally, Clinton keep-up this well produced dog-fight for the drivers seat, the longer the Media can remain exclusively focused on the Democrat's.

Rat-now, rat-cheer, at this point in time, this race for the Oval office isn't between two opposing parties in the eyes of the public, this race for the Oval is being framed as between two different contestants from within the same party. McCain only gets thrown Media filler time.

If this goes on until the Dem's Convention, August 28, there will only be about 2 months of campaigning between 'X' vs. McCain - that's it! Hell, the Dem's could probably even avoid a debate with McCain which means they can almost avoid any debate on issues and not risk exposing themselves as lacking in substance.

It really is an excellent strategy. We'd be in September or October, the parties would announce a debate and a huge chunk of the population probably won't even remember there is an opposing candidate - McCain.

Mornin folks.

re: #184 laZardo

What a find! I'm deep into the B's already ...

Honestly, so far some are self-explanatory but most I've neither heard nor could decipher.

re: #187 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Good morning aboo. The good point with the focus still on the Dem side is that means less chance for McCain putting his foot in it. :)

re: #187 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

But ... if you look at the head-to-head polls, McCain has been holding steady. So I don't think it has hurt McCain to be out of the limelight, particularly when its so negative.

I also think that many of McCain voters have already decided -- the one-third, or so, who always vote R.

Its that third in the middle, the fence-sitters who are up for grabs. And these folk are hearing mostly negative stories about Ob and Hill.

Of course, when the stories get more positive, I'll get worried.

Today, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Barack Obama for what he truly is

An errant lizard?

re: #184 laZardo

You won't believe how many ordinary food and snack items count as racial slurs in one form or another...

worked with some black guys for 18 years there are houndreds of slang afro-centric words for black, white etc,

stove pipe, skilet, oreo, snow girl, slug, the whole afro centric thing is based on racism This should not suprise anyone

AHHHH, always knew he was just another weak polititican. So glad he is finally exposed!

re: #189 BlueCanuck

Yes it does. LOL

re: #190 hermeneutics

Herm, it's really quite amazing what the bandwagon effect can produce when it comes time to pull the lever. And yes, right now polls show McCain holding his own. How long do you think that will last?

Look back at the daily polling fights between Hillary and Obama in the run-up to PA.

re: #63 hangingchad

"I cannot disown Reverend Wright any more than I can disown the black community" -Hussein

What will this "black community" have to say now?

Or...

I didn't disown Reverend Wright before I did disown him.

Recieved in an e-mail from a friend:

A young Canadian soldier was attending some college courses between assignments.
He had also completed missions in Afghanistan .

One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist. One day the professor shocked the class when he came in. He Looked to the ceiling and flatly stated, "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes."

The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am God. I'm still waiting." It got down to the last couple of minutes when the young soldier got out of his Chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold. The young man went back to his seat and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat there looking on in silence.

The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the soldier and asked, "What the hell is the matter with! you? Why did you do that?"

Came the reply,
"God was too busy today protecting our soldiers who are protecting your right to talk stupid and act like an a**hole. So, He sent me"

Jeez... what does he want? Obama in camo and a beret?

Okay, so, you inspired me.

re: #2 DesertSage

I thought his first name was Barack, when did he change it to Tom?

He wants to hide from Wright... so a new name and identity would do him well.

re: #194 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Aboo, Doesn't there have to be a "critical mass" before the bandwagon effect takes hold? People have to feel like Obama will succeed, to be sure of his eventual win, to jump on the bandwagon. That inevitability is gone, or at least I think it is.

Frankly, I think its amazing that McCain has stayed even without media coverage. Polls generally understate the Republican vote, too. I have no idea how long it will last.

Here's the RCP poll average for Pennsylvania: [Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

In it, Obama tightened but never quite transcended his 10 percent or so deficit. Aboo, am I missing something?

re: #148 wolfie

I think Obama should just pretend he has no idea who Wright is.

That's fine. But what happens when Wright becomes a stalker? Plastic surgery? New identity?

Another thought, Aboo ...

Look at Rasmussen's daily match-up. Obama consistently stas between 41-46% against McCain. McCain, on the other hand, hovers between 44 and 50%. It seems like Obama can't reach a majority.

The numbers are similar for a Clinton-McCain matchup: Cinton is between 41 and 46% and McCain is between 45 and 50%.

What I see is two D candidates with a glass ceiling of about 45/46/47 percent.

Third party candidates screw up this analysis.

re: #201 hermeneutics

Another thought, Aboo ...

Look at Rasmussen's daily match-up. Obama consistently stas between 41-46% against McCain. McCain, on the other hand, hovers between 44 and 50%. It seems like Obama can't reach a majority.

The numbers are similar for a Clinton-McCain matchup: Cinton is between 41 and 46% and McCain is between 45 and 50%.

What I see is two D candidates with a glass ceiling of about 45/46/47 percent.

Third party candidates screw up this analysis.

And Nader is running. :)

/sucks the votes from the left.

This may have been proposed already,bare with me. I question how this Wright controversy originally came to light.
It is quite plausible to me that Hillary had this arrow in her quiver all along, for use when and if needed. She knew how divisive and inflammatory this evidence would be, but, she is desperate.
Besides,in the political world hatchet jobs like this will never be traced.

re: #202 BlueCanuck

No! Barr might run! Remember Ross Perot!

re: #45 HelloDare

Glenn beck: The teachings of James Cone, the mentor of Rev. Wright.

I've seen the Jeremiah Wright on Fox video in which a combative Wright was repeatedly asking Hannity, "What do you know about black liberation theology?" and "How many books of Cone have you read?"

From your link, some of that info about Wright's "guru" I've seen before. Of late, any ideas I have held about Wright's "black liberation theology" being any more moderate than that of the NBPP (or anyone else) --those ideas are fading fast.

re: #203 littleO

This has been floating around the blog-o-sphere for a couple of months now. So for us lizards it's nothing new. The MSM only picked up on it recently.

re: #204 littleO

Barr? Barr who? And if he's like Ross Perot, all he would do is cancel out Nader.

/four contenders? Say it ain't so.

re: #204 littleO

Didn't Barr already announce?

I'm going to try to sleep. This is nuts. Tomorrow will be shot if I don't sleep.

Good night, lizards. Sleep tight and ponder deeply.

Ross perot got 19% of the vote and put Billy-boy in office for eight years!
Bob Barr could do the same for Whoever.

re: #199 hermeneutics

Once the Dem's have chosen which candidate will drive and which one ride, the media will throw everything behind the Dem's and toss McCain to the dogs. But a good portion of the bandwagon effect comes with name recognition and amount of exposure, maybe subliminally, which is where MSM has been throwing their weight to the exclusion of the other party.

The reference to the polling was in reference to daily media reports of who was projected ahead/behind(BO or Hill) in the run-up to the poll. On any given day you could find some proclaiming BO ahead and some proclaiming Clinton ahead - seemingly dependent upon which paper or agency was behind which candidate. Drudge really does an excellent job exposing this nonsense.

Are they still going at it hammer and tongs in the thread downstairs?

/give it up people.

re: #209 littleO

Ross perot got 19% of the vote and put Billy-boy in office for eight years!
Bob Barr could do the same for Whoever.

Yep. People forget that Perot put Clinton in office both times.
I've always wondered if the Clintons would come up with some goon to help Hillary. Right now they're too busy trying to secure the nomination to work that angle.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

re: #213 wolfie

Almost fruitcup time, just hang in there.

Testing, testing, is this blog on?

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Uh oh. . .. .

Good morning, afternoon, evening everyone.

Fruitcup™ is on the buffet -------------->

/littleoldlady mode off.

re: #216 littleoldlady

Sorry, thought you weren't around. :)

Zzzzzzz.

ZZZ,
R

BlueCanuck! :-)

Computer froze up at just the wrong moment... :-(

Thanks! :-)

Okay, so when's the day shift going to show up.

/keep them away from the big thread
//bad things in the down below.

re: #221 BlueCanuck

Again?!

/sheesh

re: #222 littleoldlady

LOL, yep again. Same people arguing the same points and remaining unconvinced. You would think that they would have gotten the point by now. *shrug*

In other news: Iranian President’s Visit a Test for India

Why might this be of some pressing importance? Delhi: Between Tehran and Washington

Ahmadi 'the still living terrorist' Nejad had just visited Pakistan, Musharraf, and yesterday the Saud's were in Iran hammering out a security accord - I'm sure to everyone's benefit:

The two parties studied ways to implement security cooperation pact....

Ain't that just swell.

Morning lizards

Supposed to be a quick stop, ended up drinking a nice cup of coffee to a KrazyKosKid Rant. Good start to the morning. They are hilarious.
Everyone have a great day !

Hello

re: #223 BlueCanuck

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Meanwhile, aboo and I are preparing to shack up (literally!) under an overpass...

aboo! :-)

re: #227 littleoldlady

Just let me know which overpass and I may stop by with the coffee and donuts. :)

mikeinmd! :-)

storage! :-)

Ummmm...donuts! :-)

Thats the problem with these morons; they hate the establishment more than they care about basic principles of right and wrong. Dem or Republican, someone supports rev wright after he says the things he has said, that someone is wrong.

Barrack did not sell out; he did the right thing. IMO, too little and too late, but still, the right thing.

re: #230 littleoldlady

Ummmm...donuts! :-)

You brought donuts? I woke up dreaming about coffee and blueberry muffins. Donuts will do. . . .

granny! :-)

BlueCanuck has the donuts.

/glazed, I hope!

re: #233 littleoldlady

give me a sec. Gotta head back to the shop.

/knew I was forgetting something.

Obama said what he did to save his butt....he is dishonest and a man to be feared.

re: #231 BRUTUS

Thats the problem with these morons; they hate the establishment more than they care about basic principles of right and wrong. Dem or Republican, someone supports rev wright after he says the things he has said, that someone is wrong.

Barrack did not sell out; he did the right thing. IMO, too little and too late, but still, the right thing.

Obama did not do the right thing. He did far too little. He did it twenty years too late. He STILL failed to repudiate Wright on moral principle - he attacked Wright for embarrassing him and insulting his campaign and he clearly stated that. And his body language made it very clear that he was lying repeatedly while doing so.

Note that he still attends that church and he still sends his precious children to be indoctrinated into the Wright "reverend's" school of thought.

Obama is nothing but a straw man, a cipher, a Manchurian candidate. . .

Okay, back. I think there's a little bit of everything here. Enjoy. :)

re: #236 galloping granny

You forgot weasel, pole cat. . . . ..

Any news on that UK Trident sub following the Chinese boat full of bombs a few days ago?

Seems like original report was all there was.....

re: #227 littleoldlady

Mornin Lol...you've got plenty of time(at least until January 21st) and don't worry about that new Russia Tu-160 strategic bomber, they'll be staying in-country with the Russian's until they can build-up their fleet before they go selling them to the Mullahs - again probably a little after January 21st. ;)

re: #237 BlueCanuck

Okay, back. I think there's a little bit of everything here. Enjoy. :)

Those look too good. I may have to find the car keys and make a real donut run :( I wonder if I can use the debit card at Dunkin's. . . . . wish we had a Krispy Kreme.

re: #237 BlueCanuck

PLUS! + PLUS! + PLUS! + :-)

re: #238 BlueCanuck

You forgot weasel, pole cat. . . . ..

I would not want to insult weasels or pole cats.

NEW DELHI: The Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, arrived here for a dinner meeting with Indian government officials on Tuesday, but he was expected to sign no path-breaking bilateral deals, nor iron out the kinks in a proposed 1,600-mile-long natural gas pipeline. Instead, he brought the Indian government a strange boon: a chance to show that it is willing to buck pressure from the White House and shake hands with a man Washington reviles.

One Indian official described it as "high visibility visit" with a slim chance of tangible outcomes.

Even as the United States presses India to exert greater pressure on Iran to limit its nuclear program, the government of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is under increasing pressure from its political critics at home to assert its independence from the United States. Iran has become the perfect proxy.

"It is good for the government to be seen taking a stand that the U.S. may not like," observed Lalit Mansingh, a former Indian ambassador to Washington.

[Link: www.iht.com...]

re: #240 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Wonderful! Time enough to organize my closets then. :-/

Today, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Barack Obama for what he truly is: a weak man and a standard politician.

Wait a week, until you finally see that he is in fact a cowardly man and a substandard politican. Why then the green scales will fall like rain, little Jackie Paper. Such is maturity. Years from now, you will be a conservative.

Until then, tell it to the backhand.

re: #245 littleoldlady

ROFL.

re: #246 haakondahl

Wait a week, until you finally see that he is in fact a cowardly man and a substandard politican. Why then the green scales will fall like rain, little Jackie Paper. Such is maturity. Years from now, you will be a conservative.

Until then, tell it to the backhand.

Do politicians come in any variety other than standard and sub-standard?

"I pray for Christians. They've been misled. They will realize one day the true story," said Nader Talebzadeh, whose film has been screened at international film festivals and is being marketed for wider release.

"People might use this film as a strategy to further demonize Iran," he said. "They may succeed. But I hope once you see that the focus of the film is sacred, it will overwhelm. No one would have imagined that an Iranian would make a film to glorify Jesus." Not to mention an Iranian who supports President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and believes 9/11 was partly a US government conspiracy.

"Someone masterminded something," he said. "And this is the cause for a lot of evil America is doing in this part of the world." There is another irony. The actor who plays Jesus, Ahmad Soleimani-Nia, once was a soldier in the Iranian army and later a welder for Iran's Atomic Energy Agency, Los Angeles Times said.

Read the whole thing [Link: www2.irna.com...]

Good morning lizards!
Pretty good crowd this morning! :)

littleoldlady
Thanks for the fruitcup :)

Blue
Thanks for those wonderful pastry :)

/Who wants to blow a fuse early in the morning? All you have to do is go to the ADL thread ;)

re: #236 galloping granny

I agree with you. My only point was that there is a right and a wrong. To say that Obama sold out when he openly acknowledged that is to place ones anti-establishment lll beliefs ahead of right and wrong.

But you are right, too little, too late and too meaningless

re: #250 MigueldowninMexico

I stay away from threads like that.

re: #249 storagemanager

Read the whole thing [Link: www2.irna.com...]

"Someone masterminded something," he said.

Well, according to the still luke warm downstairs thread there is/are/were the Intelligent Designer(s) who masterminded something... or other... but I suspect that is not about what he was speaking...

re: #252 storagemanager

I stay away from threads like that.

Me three!

I can't stand the sight of blood...

Miguelito! :-)

re: #252 storagemanager

I only made a couple posts on it. Just to show my frustration over the whole debate.

re: #255 littleoldlady

I can't stand the sight of blood...

Miguelito! :-)

The other one was so bloody, that a lot of lizards are staying away from this one.

How are you Lo? Back to normal?

Good Morning Miguel. How's things in your neighbourhood?

re: #253 freetoken

Well, according to the still luke warm downstairs thread there is/are/were the Intelligent Designer(s) who masterminded something... or other... but I suspect that is not about what he was speaking...

I have my faith...ten people like zombie could Tye me to a chair and yell all night...in the morning I would still have my faith..so..what does it matter?

re: #259 storagemanager

I think you could do the same to people like Zombe and Kilgore. The whole thing is a waste of energy to try and change peoples minds.

re: #257 MigueldowninMexico

Define "normal" ;-)

re: #258 BlueCanuck

Good Morning Miguel. How's things in your neighbourhood?

Thank God, everthing's all right :)
How about you?

Good morning...

Fear those Christians welding Bibles!.........

.Like a pack of rabid wolves a band of 15 "Asian" men chased a 19 year old British man for one half mile before catching the lone victim and beating him with baseball bats.

The scenario is similar to the one I recently blogged about regarding the 16 year old asthmatic lad, David Proctor, who was robbed and severly beaten by a gang of muslim thugs. In Protor's case the muslims used dogs to terrorize the boy - they also made him strip naked for further humiliation.

In the current case - baseball bats were used to inflict brutal injuries on the 19 year old young man. There was NO instigating cause - just a British man walking alone minding his own business when these muslim cretins decided to single him out for a beating. One can only imagine the terror of being cornered - like prey - with 15 crazed muslim, in a frenzy, wielding baseball bats.

[Link: theopinionator.typepad.com...]

re: #261 littleoldlady

Define "normal" ;-)

In full health.

re: #262 MigueldowninMexico

Doing good. Finally got my haircut I was promised by my stalkee. Also got off my keister and finished that book review I have been working on. I finally got inspired by Dianna finally getting her wish for the "Books" spinoff section.

re: #264 MigueldowninMexico

Oh. Full health.

I'm feeling much better, thankyouverymuch! :-)

I, along with John Paul II*, am a believer in "Intelligent Evolution", meaning that perhaps there's something to the Theory of Evolution, but -ultimately- it's all designed and monitored by God.

Now, that's another perspective there.

*I guess it's the Catholic idea about it.