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McCain to Attend La Raza Conference

Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:37:46 am PDT

Why is John McCain pandering to a rabidly racist Mexican-American group with an open agenda to turn the Western states of the US into “Aztlan?” McCain to attend La Raza’s annual conference.

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1 JammieWearingFool  5/06/08 8:38:38 am reply quote

Pandering to your enemies never works.

2 jcm  5/06/08 8:39:00 am reply quote

Fine go talk to

THE RACE

3 Ward Cleaver  5/06/08 8:39:13 am reply quote

Diversity - shut up and embrace it.

4 Sabnen  5/06/08 8:39:22 am reply quote

He's reaching out!
/

5 The Other Les  5/06/08 8:39:28 am reply quote

Social peace in our time!

6 Ben Hur  5/06/08 8:39:31 am reply quote

Occupation Chic never fails.

7 Pastorius  5/06/08 8:39:35 am reply quote

Every time I start to like McCain, I start to hate him again.

8 Ward Cleaver  5/06/08 8:39:58 am reply quote

Next up? A speech to MeCHa (sp?).

9 Ward Cleaver  5/06/08 8:40:12 am reply quote

El Klan.

10 EC Marm  5/06/08 8:40:12 am reply quote

Not expecting a 'whole lot of love' on this thread.

11 jcm  5/06/08 8:40:19 am reply quote

re: #3 Ward Cleaver

Diversity - shut up and embrace it.

Celebrate Diversity!

12 Occasional Reader  5/06/08 8:40:32 am reply quote

Wonderful.

By the way, which "race" is that, exactly?

13 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  5/06/08 8:40:39 am reply quote

Next thing you know he'll be reaching out to Al Qaeda

14 Ben Hur  5/06/08 8:41:06 am reply quote

I can't beleive this group has gotten so far with a name like "The Race."

What race are Hispanics?

I'm pretty sure they are Caucasions, technically.

15 jcm  5/06/08 8:41:15 am reply quote

re: #10 EC Marm

Not expecting a 'whole lot of love' on this thread.

We got stuck with 'im.
Damn well gonna' let him know when hes outta' line.

16 JammieWearingFool  5/06/08 8:41:16 am reply quote

When is he scheduled to speak to some anti-illegal alien groups?

/Not holding breath...

17 right wing zephyr  5/06/08 8:41:18 am reply quote

This man has an obsession with doing the wrong thing at the wrong time.

18 bosforus  5/06/08 8:41:24 am reply quote

KFYI.com is a radio station in Phoenix. Don't have it on right now but my guess is that they're tearing McCain a new one right about now.

19 zmdavid  5/06/08 8:41:33 am reply quote
Why is John McCain lending legitimacy to a rabidly racist Mexican-American group with an open agenda to turn the Western states of the US into “Aztlan?”


To avoid being called racist.

re: #1 JammieWearingFool

Pandering to your enemies never works.


They aren't McCain's enemy.

20 The Other Les  5/06/08 8:41:47 am reply quote

re: #12 Occasional Reader

Wonderful.

By the way, which "race" is that, exactly?

La Raza Principal

21 jcm  5/06/08 8:41:57 am reply quote

re: #14 Ben Hur

I can't beleive this group has gotten so far with a name like "The Race."

What race are Hispanics?

I'm pretty sure they are Caucasions, technically.

Ask 50 people on the street what "La Raza" means......

22 Ben Hur  5/06/08 8:41:59 am reply quote

I wonder if Absolut is sponsoring the event.

23 MandyManners  5/06/08 8:42:01 am reply quote

re: #12 Occasional Reader

Wonderful.

By the way, which "race" is that, exactly?

I remember seeing "White Non-Hispanic" on various forms so I reckon "Hispanic" is a race. Huh?

24 BGOH  5/06/08 8:43:09 am reply quote

For the love of God. Why does McCain think pandering to people who are politically vested in his defeat will somehow benefit him?

Who in the f**k is running this sham McCain is calling a "campaign?" That is a question that I think we all need to begin asking very, very loudly...

25 NYexpat  5/06/08 8:43:11 am reply quote

re: #7 Pastorius

Every time I start to like McCain, I start to hate him again.

*sigh* It just shows you how bad our choices are this year, McCain or one of the two socialists

26 gibsonz  5/06/08 8:43:13 am reply quote

Say anything bad about an illegal or Obama and you will see McNasty with a quickness.

27 Who Watches the Watchmen?  5/06/08 8:43:36 am reply quote

useful idiot
*spit*

28 loppyd  5/06/08 8:43:55 am reply quote

WTF.

Big mistake. Does he need hispanic votes that badly?

29 Charlie Martel  5/06/08 8:43:59 am reply quote

re: #14 Ben Hur


99.9 percent think they are full blooded Aztec, Inca, Maya, etc. They have no idea that their bloodlines come from Spain.

30 Mike in Boulder  5/06/08 8:44:05 am reply quote

Shame on the AP for a ridculous headline and perpetuating old myths.

Turning 60, Israelis feel pride, Palestinians pain

31 trdlgmsr  5/06/08 8:44:08 am reply quote

McCain will enable illegal immigration to a greater degree than even Bush. With Juan Hernandez on his campaign staff this move shouldn't come as a surprise.

Vote 3rd party. I'm deciding between Libertarian and Constitution parties.

McCain is not conservative, and neither it the GOP leadership.

Vote for conservatives down ticket, GOP if you must, but don't go for McCain for President.

32 Da_Beerfreak  5/06/08 8:44:25 am reply quote

The local radio station had McCain's advisor on this morning. After a couple of minutes of her dodging the questions from the host I had to turn it off. It left me with a very strong urge to vote for the Demonrat this November.
// {:-(™

33 Oh no...Sand People!  5/06/08 8:44:29 am reply quote

Maybe Mexico can send it's 'operatives' here and set up some 'illegal infrastructure'...

Phone lines, High Speed Internet...something aside from the current 'illegal infrastructure'...Iran is doing it for Lebanon.

/

34 jcm  5/06/08 8:44:42 am reply quote

Hispanic

The term now refers to the culture and peoples of the Spanish-speaking countries of Hispanic America and Spain; or countries with a historical legacy from Spain including the Southwestern United States; the African nations of Equatorial Guinea, Western Sahara; the Asia-Pacific nations of the Philippines, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands; and to the ethnic individuals of those cultures. It can also refer to the Hispanosphere geographical distribution, the same way Latin (Latino) refers to the Romance languages in general.

It's a cultural linguistic classification.

35 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  5/06/08 8:45:15 am reply quote

re: #31 trdlgmsr

McCain will enable illegal immigration to a greater degree than even Bush. With Juan Hernandez on his campaign staff this move shouldn't come as a surprise.

Vote 3rd party. I'm deciding between Libertarian and Constitution parties.

McCain is not conservative, and neither it the GOP leadership.

Vote for conservatives down ticket, GOP if you must, but don't go for McCain for President.

Right, because Obama would be such a better choice.

36 HugoChavez  5/06/08 8:45:23 am reply quote

Because John "Lettuce" McCain is my sock puppet.

Mwahahahahahahahaha!

37 Ben-Ami  5/06/08 8:45:30 am reply quote

re: #2 jcm

Fine go talk to

THE RACE

NB: "Race" isn't the only translation of "raza," or even necessarily the most correct.

38 loppyd  5/06/08 8:45:46 am reply quote

re: #34 jcm

Hispanic

It's a cultural linguistic classification.

Then can we call ourselves Hispanic? I just listened to a recording in Spanish....

39 Slumbering Behemoth  5/06/08 8:45:57 am reply quote

Ugh! Dammit John! Not cool! As far as I'm concerned, ya may as well be pandering to the KKK.

40 chinesearithmetic  5/06/08 8:46:04 am reply quote

Give 'em the ol' Raza-Gaza.

41 Silhouette  5/06/08 8:46:05 am reply quote

A groups called The Race can't be racist.

/

42 nikis-knight  5/06/08 8:46:06 am reply quote

After watching the Dems for awhile, I really begin to admire McCain.
Then I watch McCain again, and all I am left with is contempt for the Dems.
Lesser of two evils is less evil, so no regrets in nov, though.

43 Oh no...Sand People!  5/06/08 8:46:25 am reply quote

re: #36 HugoChavez

Because John "Lettuce" McCain is my sock puppet.

Mwahahahahahahahaha!

At $55 bucks an hour...that's a job 98% of American's would do...the man is a fiscal travesty.

44 laZardo  5/06/08 8:46:27 am reply quote

re: #23 MandyManners

I just like to mark "Other." Just for the kicks.

45 FQ Kafir  5/06/08 8:46:55 am reply quote

re: #31 trdlgmsr

McCain sucks less than the other two. 3rd parties never get elected, they just act as a spoiler.

46 right wing zephyr  5/06/08 8:47:44 am reply quote

re: #31 trdlgmsr

Vote 3rd party. I'm deciding between Libertarian and Constitution parties.

Great idea.

/

47 MandyManners  5/06/08 8:47:56 am reply quote

I just saw that inaccurate "100 years" commercial from the DNC run on Fox.

FOX, YOU SUCK.

48 FrogMarch  5/06/08 8:47:58 am reply quote

Can we get some new presidential candidates please. They all SUCK.

49 zmdavid  5/06/08 8:48:00 am reply quote

re: #34 jcm

It can also refer to the Hispanosphere geographical distribution, the same way Latin (Latino) refers to the Romance languages in general.


The French, Italians and Romanians are Latinos?

50 Silhouette  5/06/08 8:48:01 am reply quote

He's just going to witness to them.

/

51 Ben-Ami  5/06/08 8:48:12 am reply quote

re: #23 MandyManners

I remember seeing "White Non-Hispanic" on various forms so I reckon "Hispanic" is a race. Huh?

No. The way that the US government uses it, Hispanic is an ethnic term, not a racial one. The OMB defines a Hispanic as "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race".

52 nikis-knight  5/06/08 8:48:27 am reply quote

re: #29 Charlie Martel

99.9 percent think they are full blooded Aztec, Inca, Maya, etc. They have no idea that their bloodlines come from Spain.

Why on earth would someone want to claim the savage Aztecs as their ancestors? Sure, all people can be good or bad regardless of their ancestors, but to associate with any connections to that bloodthirsty culture? huh?
Oh yeah, the victim thing...

53 LanceKates  5/06/08 8:49:43 am reply quote

SHHH! McCain is a good conservative Republican and if someone won't vote for him because he openly meets with racists and illegal immigration supporters, they they just don't live America enough!

/

54 EC Marm  5/06/08 8:49:46 am reply quote

I gotta chose between the evil of two lessers' in November.

55 Slumbering Behemoth  5/06/08 8:50:06 am reply quote

re: #29 Charlie Martel

99.9 percent think they are full blooded Aztec, Inca, Maya, etc. They have no idea that their bloodlines come from Spain.

Or from France, or Portugal, or...

56 BGOH  5/06/08 8:50:14 am reply quote

re: #31 trdlgmsr

McCain will enable illegal immigration to a greater degree than even Bush. With Juan Hernandez on his campaign staff this move shouldn't come as a surprise.

Vote 3rd party. I'm deciding between Libertarian and Constitution parties.

McCain is not conservative, and neither it the GOP leadership.

Vote for conservatives down ticket, GOP if you must, but don't go for McCain for President.

This is an entirely ignorant, irrational stance. I'm sick of people who think that voting for an irrelevant third party is going to in any way change the current system.

The only way this two party system will be altered is by one or both parties splitting and creating a third party in it's ashes. Those two splinters will create one, and we're back to two parties again. That is the way our government is structured. Period. There is a reason we don't have a PM or a parliament.

Until then, change the party of your choice from within. You don't teach a party a lesson by damning it to defeat. The last time we tried that we earned ourselves Nancy "for the children" Pelosi, and Dingy Harry.

Think a little bit.

57 Oh no...Sand People!  5/06/08 8:50:24 am reply quote

re: #24 BGOH

For the love of God. Why does McCain think pandering to people who are politically vested in his defeat will somehow benefit him?

Who in the f**k is running this sham McCain is calling a "campaign?" That is a question that I think we all need to begin asking very, very loudly...

Since he knows he has the conservative vote he doesn't care what he does.

58 zmdavid  5/06/08 8:50:31 am reply quote

re: #50 Silhouette

He's just going to witness to them.

/

It would redeem him somewhat if he criticized them to their faces. I don't see it happening though. I'm not even sure he's pandering, he might genuinely agree with them.

59 jcm  5/06/08 8:50:45 am reply quote

re: #37 Ben-Ami

NB: "Race" isn't the only translation of "raza," or even necessarily the most correct.

From La Raza.

We have a Spanish term in our name, “La Raza” (meaning “the people” or “community”), which is often mistranslated. Furthermore, we are engaged in some of the most controversial issues of our time, which we believe is essential if we are to stay true to our mission.


Okay, THE RACE is intentional provocative.

Let's flip the table. I propose and English based group called THE PEOPLE.

Let's do a re-rewrite of there own statement:
We proudly represent nearly 300 Affiliates – community-based organizations providing a range of essential services to millions of English speaking and others in need. Since 1997, NCLR and its Affiliates have helped more than 22,000 low-income English speaking families purchase their first homes. In addition, NCLR’s network of 115 charter schools provides quality education to more than 25,000 English children every year. The health clinics we help build and the lay health educators we train provided care and information about prevention and detection of serious illnesses to nearly 100,000 people in 2006. Our Affiliates are working every day to help English speaking immigrants integrate fully into American society by providing language classes, civics courses, or naturalization assistance.

How's that gonna fly?

60 trdlgmsr  5/06/08 8:51:17 am reply quote

re: #35 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Personally, I'd rather the next 4 years be the Dem's fault.

However, I see little difference between the GOP of today and the Dems of my youth - other than judicial selections. Being a conservative, I'll vote my conscience and for someone or some party that matches my philosophy more closely. No more will I vote for the lesser of evils.

If everyone voted the conscience we might have a different outcome. It'll be difficult for a while, but it has to start somewhere....

61 laZardo  5/06/08 8:51:17 am reply quote

re: #49 zmdavid

I once saw this "Hecho En Mexico" shirt that read "Hispanics are from Spain, Latinos are from Italy!"

62 Ward Cleaver  5/06/08 8:51:17 am reply quote

re: #47 MandyManners

I just saw that inaccurate "100 years" commercial from the DNC run on Fox.

FOX, YOU SUCK.

Which is why I don't watch any of the TV news channels.

63 BabbaZee  5/06/08 8:51:33 am reply quote

The only difference
between R & D today
is the MPH
and the ETA

/I remain not insane, most excellent Festus!

64 laZardo  5/06/08 8:52:02 am reply quote

re: #56 BGOH

Sounds like Goldstein's Book from 1984. "The Middle will over throw the High, become the High, and a group will splinter off from the High to become the New Middle."

65 Ben Hur  5/06/08 8:52:26 am reply quote

re: #30 Mike in Boulder

Shame on the AP for a ridculous headline and perpetuating old myths.

66 laZardo  5/06/08 8:52:46 am reply quote

re: #59 jcm

more than 25,000 English children

Works for England.

67 LanceKates  5/06/08 8:52:58 am reply quote

re: #56 BGOH

This is an entirely ignorant, irrational stance. I'm sick of people who think that voting for an irrelevant third party is going to in any way change the current system.

And I'm sick of the belittlement of anyone who doesn't have a "Vote GOP always no matter what!" mentality.

Remember that the Republicans were once a 'third party'

Tell me the benefit of voting for McCain as a conservative? (And no, "IT isn't Obama or Clinton!" doesn't work. That is a sad and last ditch effort to make McCain look conservative by comparing him to a marxist and a socialist)

Tell me how the GOP stands up for conservative people and then tell me why I should support a group that is drifting to the left in an effort to steal DEMOCRAT votes, all the while browbeating anyone who thinks McCain is liberal.

You want to talk about ignorant an irrational? Justify the GOP as the conservative party.

68 Da_Beerfreak  5/06/08 8:53:10 am reply quote

re: #48 FrogMarch

Can we get some new presidential candidates please. They all SUCK.

If ever there was a time when a "None of the above" choice was needed, this is it!
// {:-(™

69 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  5/06/08 8:53:47 am reply quote

Your average "La Raza" member is about as Hispanic as Taco Bell. Its a brand name for their particular claim to victimhood.

70 clgood  5/06/08 8:53:53 am reply quote

Charles:

La Raza is as anti-American and radical as you think, but not as racist as you think. When we literally translate the word raza from Spanish we get "race". That naturally grates on our ears.

But in colloquial Spanish as it's spoken in Mexico la raza translates more to "my people" or, as an Italian might say, paisano. I've even heard my Mexican in-laws use raza to kiddingly disparage other Mexicans for stereotypical behavior.

Mexicans themselves may describe themselves as racists. Indeed, within Mexico dark-skinned Mexicans are definitely on the bottom rung of society. But the offensive-to-us use of raza isn't really racist to them.

None of this explains why McCain would visit them, though.

Yours for accuracy,


Craig

71 loppyd  5/06/08 8:54:50 am reply quote

WHAAAA WHAAA WHAAAA

As if we haven't heard it all before.

Off to lunch.

Have a nice whine fest.

72 BulgarWheat  5/06/08 8:55:04 am reply quote

a liberal, a socialist, and a marxist.

bummer

73 Ben Hur  5/06/08 8:55:17 am reply quote

re: #38 loppyd

Then can we call ourselves Hispanic? I just listened to a recording in Spanish....

I've posted this before, and I will again.

We go to Puerto Rico alot, and have since I was a guppy.

Suddenly, historic sites refer to the HISPANIC/American War of the 1800s.

Because, you know, to free the Puerto Ricans from the Spanish Empire, the United States fought the......... Puerto Ricans?

74 Ringo the Gringo  5/06/08 8:55:27 am reply quote

The new face of the Republican Party.

76 mean Gene  5/06/08 8:55:54 am reply quote

What's his ''friend,'' (amigo) named?
You know the one.
The smarmy Mexican who goes on TV (used to before he joined the McCain campaign) all the time always tossing around the phrase, "my friend."
I think he used to be part of the Fox administration.
A map of America like Absolut Vodka would please him no end.

77 Oh no...Sand People!  5/06/08 8:56:06 am reply quote

There is a term in English known as "White Power", it is often translated to mean 'white supremacy' or a racist term...but in actuality...oh wait!

/

78 Kreuzueber Halbmond  5/06/08 8:56:12 am reply quote

Quetzalcoatl will be pleased.

79 Ben Hur  5/06/08 8:56:18 am reply quote

Ein Raza?

80 Dianna  5/06/08 8:56:25 am reply quote

re: #31 trdlgmsr

Then I have to suffer four years of Clinton or Obama.

Thanks, but no thanks.

81 MandyManners  5/06/08 8:56:55 am reply quote

re: #77 Oh no...Sand People!

Love the avatar.

82 buzzsawmonkey  5/06/08 8:57:07 am reply quote

What with Obama, and La Raza
Here, there and everyplace
There's color, but not character
In the Presidential race.

83 laZardo  5/06/08 8:57:09 am reply quote

re: #63 BabbaZee

You are not insane, Most Excellent Babba.

84 Occasional Reader  5/06/08 8:57:17 am reply quote

re: #59 jcm

From La Raza's odd explanation of their name:

Mistranslating “La Raza” to mean “the race” implies that it is a term meant to exclude others.

Oh... so it DOESN'T "exclude others"? We can ALL be members of La Raza? Really?

(BTW, this is taqqiya, methinks... there are other perfectly good Spanish words for "community" or "the people" that wouldn't drag in the "race" aspect of the word)

85 Ben Hur  5/06/08 8:57:23 am reply quote

La Raza = Al Shabab.

86 Widow'smight  5/06/08 8:57:25 am reply quote

re: #63 BabbaZee

Babba dear,

Why don't they ever ask us "Real" husbands these questions?

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

87 Slumbering Behemoth  5/06/08 8:57:29 am reply quote

Hmmm... Babel Fish gives only one translation, as does my little pocket dictionary.

88 MrSilverDragon  5/06/08 8:58:18 am reply quote

re: #72 BulgarWheat

a liberal, a socialist, and a marxist.

bummer

That almost seems to need "walks into a bar" added.

89 jcm  5/06/08 8:58:23 am reply quote

re: #70 clgood

Charles:

La Raza is as anti-American and radical as you think, but not as racist as you think. When we literally translate the word raza from Spanish we get "race". That naturally grates on our ears.

But in colloquial Spanish as it's spoken in Mexico la raza translates more to "my people" or, as an Italian might say, paisano. I've even heard my Mexican in-laws use raza to kiddingly disparage other Mexicans for stereotypical behavior.

Mexicans themselves may describe themselves as racists. Indeed, within Mexico dark-skinned Mexicans are definitely on the bottom rung of society. But the offensive-to-us use of raza isn't really racist to them.

None of this explains why McCain would visit them, though.

Yours for accuracy,


Craig

It's as much it's "race" based ideologoly that grates...
It's its Gramscian Whoredom based ideology that grates.

El Centro de la Raza (translated: “The Center of the Race") has been, since its inception, a project for Cultural Marxism, working to achieve both socialism and race-based preferences for Hispanics. The group, an integral part of the revolutionary anti-American movement of the late '60s and '70s was economically extablished in 1972 by forcefully and illegally seizing Beacon Hill (Public) School, occupying it, and daring the police to fight a battle to remove them. They later occupied Seattle City Council Chambers and were finally arrested, but Seattle's Liberal Democrat Mayor Wes Uhlman (Later, a member of Dino Rossi's Transition Team) caved in and La Raza was given a lease of the building for ONE DOLLAR A YEAR. (Crime does seem to pay for Hispanic radicals). Their primary founder, Roberto Maestas, one of the Marxist guiding lights of Democrat Seattle, was, and is, a follower of the terrorist Revolutionary Che Guevara (1928-1967) and a supporter of the Nicaraguan Communist murderer/torturer dictator Daniel Ortega.
90 Ringo the Gringo  5/06/08 8:58:26 am reply quote

Maybe John McCain thought that "the race" was a reference to the race for the White House.

C'mon folks...Let's give him the benefit of the doubt here.

91 Oh no...Sand People!  5/06/08 8:58:38 am reply quote

re: #81 MandyManners

Love the avatar.

Thanks...I need to get the black eye and bloody nose more defined.

92 BabbaZee  5/06/08 8:58:42 am reply quote

The Evil of Three Lessers.



We live in a political world,
Love don't have any place.
We're living in times where men commit crimes
And crime don't have a face

We live in a political world,
Icicles hanging down,
Wedding bells ring and angels sing,
clouds cover up the ground.

We live in a political world,
Wisdom is thrown into jail,
It rots in a cell, is misguided as hell
Leaving no one to pick up a trail.

We live in a political world
Where mercy walks the plank,
Life is in mirrors, death disappears
Up the steps into the nearest bank.

We live in a political world
Where courage is a thing of the past
Houses are haunted, children are unwanted
The next day could be your last.

We live in a political world.
The one we can see and can feel
But there's no one to check, it's all a stacked deck,
We all know for sure that it's real.

We live in a political world
In the cities of lonesome fear,
Little by little you turn in the middle
But you're never why you're here.

We live in a political world
Under the microscope,
You can travel anywhere and hang yourself there
You always got more than enough rope.

We live in a political world
Turning and a'thrashing about,
As soon as you're awake, you're trained to take
What looks like the easy way out.

We live in a political world
Where peace is not welcome at all,
It's turned away from the door to wander some more
Or put up against the wall.

We live in apolitical world
Everything is hers or his,
Climb into the frame and shout God's name
But you're never sure what it is.

93 laZardo  5/06/08 8:58:44 am reply quote

re: #67 LanceKates

Tell me how the GOP stands up for conservative people and then tell me why I should support a group that is drifting to the left in an effort to steal DEMOCRAT votes, all the while browbeating anyone who thinks McCain is liberal.

Because unfortunately, Republicans currently make up a minority of the vote?

94 mean Gene  5/06/08 8:58:46 am reply quote

re: #31 trdlgmsr

McCain will enable illegal immigration to a greater degree than even Bush. With Juan Hernandez on his campaign staff this move shouldn't come as a surprise.

Vote 3rd party. I'm deciding between Libertarian and Constitution parties.

McCain is not conservative, and neither it the GOP leadership.

Vote for conservatives down ticket, GOP if you must, but don't go for McCain for President.

Ah!
Yes, Juan Hernandez.
Thanks.
I remember when he first joined the McCain camp, John went on TV and said "my friend" all the time for a while.
Somebody around him must have told him to cut it out.
Thank goodness he listened.
But old Juan is still whispering in John's ear.

95 BGOH  5/06/08 8:58:50 am reply quote

re: #64 laZardo

Sounds like Goldstein's Book from 1984. "The Middle will over throw the High, become the High, and a group will splinter off from the High to become the New Middle."

Well, it is the way our system has worked since 1787. No "third" party has ever won national office, and one never will. The Republicans were born of the Whig's disintegration in the 1850's, and that is the only way that one of the two current parties is going to meet it's demise.

I know too many people who believe that acting ideologically in the voting booth is going to somehow benefit them, even though every historical indicator indicates that the exact opposite will be the case. These are the same idiots that voted for Perot in '92 and handed this country eight years of bubba ignoring growing international threats and getting his knob slobbed in the oval office. Slick move, there.

96 BabbaZee  5/06/08 8:58:56 am reply quote

re: #83 laZardo

lol!

97 BulgarWheat  5/06/08 8:59:05 am reply quote

re: #88 MrSilverDragon

that makes me want to walk into a bar

98 tfc3rid  5/06/08 8:59:07 am reply quote

Everytime you begin to have the slightest bit of faith in him, he yanks it away...

Pandering, pure and simple...

He's a politician...

99 trdlgmsr  5/06/08 8:59:19 am reply quote

re: #76 mean Gene

The smarmy guy on McCain's staff is none other than Juan Hernandez.

100 BabbaZee  5/06/08 8:59:41 am reply quote

re: #86 Widow'smight

Oh lawdy lol

101 MandyManners  5/06/08 8:59:57 am reply quote

re: #91 Oh no...Sand People!

Thanks...I need to get the black eye and bloody nose more defined.

The black eye is pretty well defined.

102 Dianna  5/06/08 8:59:57 am reply quote

re: #70 clgood

Even so, it grates. It grates badly, particularly when paired with the notion of "Aztlan."

The last thing in the world any sensible person wants to see is the American Southwest turned into another failed state. That's exactly what would happen if these groups got their way.

103 bosforus  5/06/08 9:00:04 am reply quote

Volcano in Chile
Where's coquimbojoe?

104 Electron Shuffler  5/06/08 9:00:06 am reply quote

I call Mr. McCain John "Let's make a deal" McCain.
He will bend over backwards to cut a deal and say that he has done something.
It leaves him open to a High / Low gambit. The dems know they can work a deal with McCain, so they start negotiations at the high point. What they really want is the low one, and work their way down. Hoping for any bonus points they can get above the low mark.

I'm exceptionally unimpressed with McCain.

Will a real Conservative please stand up!

105 Ben-Ami  5/06/08 9:00:08 am reply quote

re: #70 clgood

But in colloquial Spanish as it's spoken in Mexico la raza translates more to "my people" or, as an Italian might say, paisano. I've even heard my Mexican in-laws use raza to kiddingly disparage other Mexicans for stereotypical behavior.

Correct. My faithful _Pequeño Larousse ilustrado_ (1996) gives the following as some of the definitions for "raza":

5. Mex. Fam. Grupo de gente. 6. Mex. Fam. Plebe.

106 Ward Cleaver  5/06/08 9:00:25 am reply quote

re: #74 Ringo the Gringo

The new face of the Republican Party.

And we're Who fans, too? Cool.

107 mean Gene  5/06/08 9:00:27 am reply quote

re: #99 trdlgmsr

Thanks again.
He sure had kept a low profile for a while, hadn't he?
I actually couldn't even think of his name.

108 LanceKates  5/06/08 9:00:36 am reply quote

re: #93 laZardo

Because unfortunately, Republicans currently make up a minority of the vote?

Which is why Republicans are trying to become more liberal.

They think that popularity is what will save our country.

109 Ben Hur  5/06/08 9:01:12 am reply quote