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Obama: 'I Have Never Said I Would Negotiate with Terrorists'

Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:31:59 am PDT

Barack Obama just said in a speech being broadcast on Fox News: “I have never said I would negotiate with terrorists.”

From his official campaign web site:

Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior.

It’s a simple, undeniable fact that Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. Obama says very clearly that he’s going to negotiate with them, and somehow convince them to “change their troubling behavior.” (Good luck with that.) And yet, he stands there and denies it with a straight face.

He’s now blatantly lying, even when it’s a simple matter to fact check him. He’s getting complacent about his teflon coating.

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1 jcm  5/16/08 9:32:54 am reply quote

Hair splitting with a spin.

2 Occasional Reader  5/16/08 9:33:05 am reply quote
Obama says very clearly that he’s going to negotiate with them

Sure, but he'll do it toughly.

Don't you feel better?

3 The Other Les  5/16/08 9:33:15 am reply quote

Teflon can peel off.

4 loppyd  5/16/08 9:33:44 am reply quote

That quote may miraculously disappear from his website today.

5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/16/08 9:33:50 am reply quote

Actions speak louder than words. He already has been preparing negoitiations with terrorists (Hamas, FARC)

6 The Other Les  5/16/08 9:34:12 am reply quote

I want to know who's pulling his strings.

7 loppyd  5/16/08 9:34:26 am reply quote

seems like he's always got lots of 'splainin to do....

8 jcm  5/16/08 9:34:30 am reply quote

I won't negotiate!
I plan on kissing Dinnerjacket's waffle from the start.
/B. Hussein.

9 little boomer  5/16/08 9:34:44 am reply quote

That picture in his website make him look like he's in heaven.

10 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/16/08 9:35:07 am
11 jcm  5/16/08 9:35:10 am reply quote

re: #9 little boomer

That picture in his website make him look like he's in heaven.

Obamessiah!

12 Truck Monkey  5/16/08 9:36:06 am reply quote

I don't think that it is teflon that The Obammessiah is coated with.

He is unelectable. In a year where the Dhimmicraps should wipe the floor with the repubs they (the Dhimmicraps) have found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

13 Da Coyote  5/16/08 9:36:12 am reply quote

Howz about placing his present and past statements side by side (in a non-animated version of your classic Rather killer memo comparison)? I just love watching libs make asses of themselves.

14 loppyd  5/16/08 9:36:13 am reply quote

Bush hit a nerve.

That's for sure.

Off to deal with nutty client.

BBL

15 Charles  5/16/08 9:36:57 am reply quote

Democratic spinner now on Fox: Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons."

Oooh. That's gonna really make em quake in their robes.

16 JammieWearingFool  5/16/08 9:37:04 am reply quote

Facts are incovenient.

17 galloping granny  5/16/08 9:37:11 am reply quote

Yesterday someone of Fox interviewed his "foreign policy expert" Susan Rice. She asked Rice three times if Obama would talk to Ahmadenijab and never got a straight yes or no. Instead, she got a blow off, none of your business answer about speaking with the correct people at the correct time with the correct preparation. In other words, Obama will talk to whomever he damned well pleases and if we question that, we are being "devisive."

Barrack Hussein Obama had best wise up to the fact that WE are interviewing him for the job. He is not interviewing US.

18 unrealizedviewpoint  5/16/08 9:37:27 am reply quote

Sound kind of similar to Kerry's: I voted for it, before I voted against it. Ahh - video tape. :)

19 wwhsv  5/16/08 9:37:36 am reply quote

"I want a civil campaign, but if these lying, fear-mongering, selfish, hypocritical Republicans ..."

nice

20 Nevergiveup  5/16/08 9:37:39 am reply quote

re: #15 Charles

Democratic spinner now on Fax: Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons."

Oooh. That's gonna really make em quake in their robes.

Hey- great idea. Works for me. OK we can all go home.

21 mean Gene  5/16/08 9:37:40 am reply quote

So, diplomacy without negotiation.
What is that?

22 Sharmuta  5/16/08 9:37:44 am reply quote

“I have never said I would negotiate with terrorists.”

UH- ok-aaay.... But you do understand their endorsement.

23 buzzsawmonkey  5/16/08 9:37:50 am reply quote

I won't negotiate with terrorists
I'll only meet them without preconditions,
And then I'll barely slap them on the wrists
Because deep down I approve of their mission.

--BHO

24 galloping granny  5/16/08 9:37:59 am reply quote

re: #4 loppyd

That quote may miraculously disappear from his website today.

Doesn't matter. That one has already been saved on multiple computers and was shown of Fox yesterday. Several times.

25 sattv4u2  5/16/08 9:38:06 am reply quote

re: #15 Charles

Democratic spinner now on Fax: Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons.,,,, but you CAN get rid of Israel and I as Pres won't interfere"

Oooh. That's gonna really make em quake in their robes.

I kinda feel bad fixin Charles !

26 The Other Les  5/16/08 9:38:26 am reply quote

re: #14 loppyd

Bush hit a nerve.

That's for sure.

Off to deal with nutty client.

BBL

Truth always does that. That's why they want to bring back the fairness doctrine.

27 Ojoe  5/16/08 9:38:34 am reply quote

Well Obama is quite the politician, how far could public opinion push him?

Very far as long as he is still a candidate, it seems.

28 Athos  5/16/08 9:38:41 am reply quote

Of course he's lying.

This is a play to solidify the hard left and attempt to leverage the low approval ratings of Bush by playing out the 'insult' and linking it to McCain.

Talking heads will spout off about this, the Dem leaders will spout off about this and embrace the same failed strategies that directly led to 9/11, and the majority of American people will look at all of this and do the same thing they did in 2004....decide to err on the side of obtaining peace via strength not via 'talks' or 'economic sanctions' that do not deter fanatical police states.

29 freedomplow  5/16/08 9:39:06 am reply quote

I'll have to watch it again, approximately 4 lies in ten minutes.

1. Gates urges more nongovernment contacts with Iran

30 Athos  5/16/08 9:39:35 am reply quote

re: #17 galloping granny

Yesterday someone of Fox interviewed his "foreign policy expert" Susan Rice. She asked Rice three times if Obama would talk to Ahmadenijab and never got a straight yes or no. Instead, she got a blow off, none of your business answer about speaking with the correct people at the correct time with the correct preparation. In other words, Obama will talk to whomever he damned well pleases and if we question that, we are being "devisive."

Barrack Hussein Obama had best wise up to the fact that WE are interviewing him for the job. He is not interviewing US.

"Let me eat my waffle."

"I answered 8 questions, that's enough"

31 paxnhymn  5/16/08 9:39:40 am reply quote

poor dumbass hussein. here. I gotta help him:

Negotiate

verb.1. to deal or bargain with another or others, as in the preparation of a treaty or contract or in preliminaries to a business deal.

direct presidential diplomacy

sam-same, pal! I wouldv'e thought at that Ivy League school you'd have at least learned how to peruse a dictionary....

32 The Other Les  5/16/08 9:39:43 am reply quote

re: #19 wwhsv

"I want a civil campaign, but if these lying, fear-mongering, selfish, hypocritical Republicans ..."

nice

In short. Shut up.

33 JammieWearingFool  5/16/08 9:39:52 am reply quote

re: #15 Charles

Democratic spinner now on Fax: Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons."

Oooh. That's gonna really make em quake in their robes.

So in other words, he agrees with Bush now?

34 Nevergiveup  5/16/08 9:39:58 am reply quote

re: #29 freedomplow

I'll have to watch it again, approximately 4 lies in ten minutes.

1. Gates urges more nongovernment contacts with Iran

Well one of daddy Bush's guys.

35 Iron Fist  5/16/08 9:40:20 am reply quote

re: #12 Truck Monkey,

Well, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is what they did in Viet Nam. It's what they want to do in Iraq. Let's hope they do it in the Presidential election instead.

36 Sharmuta  5/16/08 9:40:36 am reply quote

re: #19 wwhsv

"I want a civil campaign, but if these lying, fear-mongering, selfish, hypocritical Republicans ..."

nice

I believe that's called "projection".

37 Dianna  5/16/08 9:41:20 am reply quote

Why is this man a candidate?

38 paxnhymn  5/16/08 9:41:28 am reply quote

re: #15 Charles

Democratic spinner now on Fox: Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons."

Oooh. That's gonna really make em quake in their robes.

that's like the unarmed security guard at Walmart...

"stop! Or I'll...(scratches head) say stop again!"

:-D

39 bulwrk  5/16/08 9:41:33 am reply quote

re: #21 mean Gene

So, diplomacy without negotiation.
What is that?

war

40 Jonn Lilyea  5/16/08 9:41:41 am reply quote

The hit dog yelps first. He's been saying since the beginning that he'll talk with anyone who has a beef with the US. He's even hinted that because of his heritage, terrorists will be willing to talk to him. And Hamas jumped on that bus with him. I guess he figures we forgot all that stuff that he said before Wright.

41 Athos  5/16/08 9:41:46 am reply quote

re: #30 Athos

adding the /sarc tag.

Obama and his handlers know his policies are a non-starter with mainstream America. That's why its to their advantage to keep things as vague as possible. Although with his willingness to openly lie, and the cover that gets from the MSM, why bother. Answer the questions then deny when called on the carpet for the wrong answers.

42 seekeroftruth  5/16/08 9:41:52 am reply quote

Wow. He's not even subtle about his lying.
Wonder if he even knows what the truth is anymore since he lies freely and often.......

43 Kenneth  5/16/08 9:41:58 am reply quote

Obama to Ahmadinejad,

"Mahmoud, you had me at apostate!"

44 Da Coyote  5/16/08 9:42:00 am reply quote

With respect to the Obamaloon being "unlectable", let us not forget that McKennedy is doing a fine job of alienating his entire base. I personally think he's only slightly less dense than Obama. Folks, our potential nominee is a dork. Perhaps the Repubs can regain some semblance of sense and nominate someone that we can support.

45 ContraJihadi  5/16/08 9:42:00 am reply quote

It will be a vast, bitter storm of resentment that will roar across the whole nation when the millions who are now bedazzled by Obama's hypnotic spell finally snap out of it.

46 JohnnyReb  5/16/08 9:42:03 am reply quote

Obama must really really hate the internet. Sucks to be him.

The MSM is dead it just doesn't know it yet, give it about 5-10 more years to go *poof*

47 The Other Les  5/16/08 9:42:05 am reply quote

re: #36 Sharmuta

I believe that's called "projection".

They don't want to believe that anyone could be better than them.

48 Ringo the Gringo  5/16/08 9:42:13 am reply quote
Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons."

Now why didn't Bush think of that?

50 The Other Les  5/16/08 9:42:36 am reply quote

re: #37 Dianna

Why is this man a candidate?

Because it feels good to them.

51 coquimbojoe  5/16/08 9:42:37 am reply quote

Lying Sack of Crap.

52 mean Gene  5/16/08 9:42:58 am reply quote

re: #39 bulwrk

war

or surrender.

53 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/16/08 9:42:59 am
54 NoSubmission  5/16/08 9:43:16 am reply quote

Obama makes Kerry's flip flops look like steely resolve.

55 Athos  5/16/08 9:43:30 am reply quote

re: #37 Dianna

Why is this man a candidate?

This is the same party that has pressed McGovern, Carter, Dukakis, AlBore, and Kerry as 'viable' candidates. Competence has less to do with it as loyalty towards the ideology.

56 unrealizedviewpoint  5/16/08 9:43:32 am reply quote
“I have never said I would negotiate with terrorists.”

uhh.. Yes, you did Mr. Obama. A number of times in the debates with your democratic opponents. Now shut up and eat your waffle.

57 sattv4u2  5/16/08 9:43:45 am reply quote

re: #37 Dianna

Why is this man a candidate?

HOPE ,,,, CHANGE ,,,,,, (never underestimate the stupidity of people sheeple in large numbers)

58 Lazarus  5/16/08 9:43:55 am reply quote

Of course he can say this, because he would grovel before Iran's "democratically-elected leaders" and "members of the global community" who "can help stabilize tensions in this troubled part of the world." In his conrete-bound mentality, he would surrender to men with suits and robes and Members Club Only jackets, not men with masks and guns, so how can that be "negotiating with terrorists"?

59 karmic_inquisitor  5/16/08 9:43:57 am reply quote

Once again Obama's position is being distorted.

How is it being distorted?

I have no idea.

But I do KNOW that Democrats and the media will tell me that Obama's position is being distorted.

60 pat  5/16/08 9:43:59 am reply quote

Britt Hume has been hammering him on this, quite effectively.

61 AuntAcid  5/16/08 9:44:10 am reply quote

Sic Michelle on'em!

62 Kosh's Shadow  5/16/08 9:44:27 am reply quote
tough, direct presidential diplomacy


He's going to send them a Strongly Worded Letter himself, instead of having the UN do it.

What we need is tough, direct, presidential whoop-ass.
Speak softly and carry a big nuke,
not speak softly and carry a tune.

63 faraway  5/16/08 9:44:27 am reply quote

He will just pray to the new Trinity.

“I forgive my sins in the name of the Barack, the Hussein, and the Holy Obama. Amen.”

[BTW,I stole this line]

64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/16/08 9:44:50 am reply quote

re: #37 Dianna

Why is this man a candidate?

Because Soros has spent a whole lot of money to make him one

65 NoSubmission  5/16/08 9:44:52 am reply quote

Don't forget, die-hard Obamamites don't care what he says.

66 Lazarus  5/16/08 9:45:05 am reply quote

And really, who will hold him to his contradiction? Americans don't care and the rest of the world is rooting for Iran.

67 Kenneth  5/16/08 9:45:12 am reply quote

Hey Obama, negotiate this:

How Iran Is Killing U.S. Troops in Iraq

68 faraway  5/16/08 9:45:47 am reply quote

This is what I really meant, sweetie.

69 Nevergiveup  5/16/08 9:45:52 am reply quote

When Obama eventually secures the Democratic Nomination, I think his handlers are gonna regret this little temper tantrum of his. When he has to to that little dance back to the center and stop catering to his loonie left base, he will regret picking this fight.

70 brainwizard73  5/16/08 9:45:58 am reply quote

re: #15 Charles

Democratic spinner now on Fox: Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons."

Oooh. That's gonna really make em quake in their robes.

Yeah, or what, Barack...are you going to talk them to death?

71 nyc redneck  5/16/08 9:46:02 am reply quote

he is so used to being coddled by the msm he really thinks he can say and do anything w/ impunity.
all his lies and missteps will come in handy soon. let him keep making an ass of himself.
eventually the pile will be so big, that the stink will have to be acknowledged and seen for what it is. a testament to his foul character.

72 unrealizedviewpoint  5/16/08 9:46:02 am reply quote
"you can't have nuclear weapons."

Oh! We can't, we're sorry. No problem. We understand now, now that you're saying it.

73 pat  5/16/08 9:46:29 am reply quote

I saw his chief foreign policy analyst on Fox yesterday. Typical liberal dimwit, who believes that Muslims want peace, instead of a piece of her. What is the point of talking if you are not listening? There is no shortage of word emenating from the Mid East.

74 SeattleSE  5/16/08 9:46:30 am reply quote

I was just sitting in a hotel club lounge listening to him and I had the exact same thought. He contradicted himself within his speech. One moment he was talking about engaging them with "tough diplomacy" and the next moment he was saying that Bush and McCain were lying about his willingness to talk to terrorists.

But the thing that really got to me were the two grinning sycophants nodding and grinning with vapid delight at everything that he said.

Please, someone explain to me how educated people can be so stupid.

Cheers.

75 Nevergiveup  5/16/08 9:46:32 am reply quote

re: #70 brainwizard73

Yeah, or what, Barack...are you going to talk them to death?

Well he's killin me.

76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/16/08 9:46:43 am reply quote

re: #67 Kenneth

Hey Obama, negotiate this:

77 buzzsawmonkey  5/16/08 9:46:44 am reply quote

re: #70 brainwizard73

Yeah, or what, Barack...are you going to talk them to death?

He certainly may talk us there, if he gets into office.

78 galloping granny  5/16/08 9:46:48 am reply quote

re: #61 AuntAcid

Sic Michelle on'em!

Obama or Malkin?

79 Sharmuta  5/16/08 9:47:06 am reply quote

Geeze, barack- you're pitching quite the hissy fit for not even being named directly. You really do have a guilty conscience about this, don't you?

80 JammieWearingFool  5/16/08 9:47:09 am reply quote

re: #37 Dianna

Why is this man a candidate?

Hope, change, the media's infatuation with Marxists, sufficient quanities of melanin, and the left's desperate desire to show the world they're not racist.

81 RickZ  5/16/08 9:47:15 am reply quote

re: #6 The Other Les

I want to know who's pulling his strings.

Oh, I quite agree. I know he comes from the Cook County political machine, where he earned his street cred sitting in a pew listening to Reverunatthemouth. But it would be interesting to know who is behind this Manchurian candidate. Because it just can't be dumb luck that got him to where he is, this close >< to becoming the President. But if it is dumb luck, then having a media carry water for him sure is a boost to his hopes. I never thought I would see our media turn into Pravda, but they have. With Obama, the party line consensus from the media is whatever he says today. The media doesn't even pretend to have a memory hole, as that would require an aspect of long term memory. I find the whole Obamasiah obamanation disconcertingly stupefying in a scary way.

82 Gat New York  5/16/08 9:47:15 am reply quote

re: #17 galloping granny

Susan Rice - one of his anti-Israel foreign policy advisors. Would not be surprised if she was already talking with Iran the way another of Obama's anti-Israel advisors Malley was with Hamas.

Obama needs to be directly called out and told that when you are negotiating with Iran you ARE negotiating with the very people who support and train Hamas and Hezbollah. McCain needs to hammer that point.

He also needs to call out the lie that any prior U.S. President sat with enemy leaders without some preconditions. Never happened.

83 karmic_inquisitor  5/16/08 9:47:26 am reply quote

re: #70 brainwizard73

Yeah, or what, Barack...are you going to talk them to death?

He will walk across the Persian Gulf and tell them that he is the hidden imam.

84 Kalak  5/16/08 9:47:39 am reply quote

He isn't lying.

He doesn't consider Hamas and Hezbollah to be terrorists. Therefore, he will negotiate with them.

It's all in the semantics.

85 The Other Les  5/16/08 9:47:40 am reply quote

re: #74 SeattleSE

I was just sitting in a hotel club lounge listening to him and I had the exact same thought. He contradicted himself within his speech. One moment he was talking about engaging them with "tough diplomacy" and the next moment he was saying that Bush and McCain were lying about his willingness to talk to terrorists.

But the thing that really got to me were the two grinning sycophants nodding and grinning with vapid delight at everything that he said.

Please, someone explain to me how educated people can be so stupid.

Cheers.

They haven't actually been educated. They've been indoctrinated. Major difference.

86 amphibian  5/16/08 9:47:42 am reply quote

He never said it. And besides, it's not terrorism, it's resistance. Legitimate national resistance to oppression and stuff like that. And you're a racist for even bringing it up! Remember, folks: it all depends on what the meaning of "is" is!

On a more serious note, I guess this means that it no longer matters what Ears says any more; the voters' choices are more or less fixed, and the voters themselves are off to pay attention to something else. We remain appalled at Ears, his supporters have made up their minds, and it will take something truly amazing for the vote to shift much in either direction.

87 Kenneth  5/16/08 9:48:08 am reply quote

Foreign policy lesson for Obama:

Syria & Iran use terrorism as a tool of their foreign policy.
Syria & Iran arm terrorists.
Syria & Iran train terrorists.
Syria & Iran are terrorists.
Negotiating with Syria & Iran is negotiating with terrorists.

Got it, waffle man?

88 galloping granny  5/16/08 9:48:09 am reply quote

re: #67 Kenneth

Hey Obama, negotiate this:

How Iran Is Killing U.S. Troops in Iraq

Don't worry, the very second that he takes his hand off the koran at the swearing in our troops will be heading home - or surrendering to Iran.

89 buzzsawmonkey  5/16/08 9:48:17 am reply quote

re: #74 SeattleSE

Please, someone explain to me how educated people can be so stupid.

Education has devolved into a process of removing the sense you were born with--and the ability to believe the evidence of your own eyes and ears--and replacing these things with a Moebius strip of propaganda.

90 opnion  5/16/08 9:48:29 am reply quote

Well, you see Negotiating & Diplomacy are not the same thing.
The differnce is, ah, um er. Give me the weekened, I'll get back to you.

91 cod_is_great  5/16/08 9:48:50 am reply quote

It's hard to be "tough" when you've already ceded so much ground by being "direct."

And Obama couldn't even get Rev. Wright to change his mind about whether or not the government created AIDS to kill off minorities or about whether Jesus was a black Palestinian persecuted by Jews and Garlic noses...He's going to convince the sunked eyed money to swear off the 12th Imam?

92 Spirit93  5/16/08 9:49:01 am reply quote

The primaries are over.

Time to start repositioning towards the center.

This is only the beginning.

93 brainwizard73  5/16/08 9:49:19 am reply quote

He won't negotiate with "terrorists".

But he will meet with no preconditions the people that arm terrorists, fund terrorists, provide havens for terrorists, train terrorists, educate terrorists, feed terrorists, transport terrorists, pay terrorists' families when they die in attacks on American soldiers or innocent non-coms in Israel or Iraq.

No, Barack, you don't negotiate with "terrorists".

Barack better bite the head off of a gizzly bear on Hannity and Colmes tonight if he wants to have any semblance of fortitude.

94 jwpaine  5/16/08 9:49:45 am reply quote

re: #37 Dianna

Why is this man a candidate?

Look at the two alternatives.

Bob Barr is starting to look good.

95 Honorary Yooper  5/16/08 9:50:03 am reply quote

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because Soros has spent a whole lot of money to make him one

Not just Soros. A lot of America's enemies have done so. There is a man by the name of Nadhmi Auchi who has been backing Obama for quite some time now. Auchi bankrolled Saddam's weaponry, and is an Iraqi-born British billionarie who helped Saddam with an assassination attempt on the Iraqi president about 40 years ago. In addition, Auchi is well connected to Rezko. Yes, that Tony Rezko who is on trial right now.

96 Kosh's Shadow  5/16/08 9:50:18 am reply quote

re: #74 SeattleSE

Please, someone explain to me how educated people can be so stupid.

Cheers.

Because their history lessons came out of Howard Zinn's books.

97 brainwizard73  5/16/08 9:50:27 am reply quote

re: #75 Nevergiveup

Well he's killin me.

Crap. You're right. We don't need new weapon systems...we need a bunch of altoids and Barack Obama's hot air...

98 pat  5/16/08 9:50:30 am reply quote

re: #79 Sharmuta

Geeze, barack- you're pitching quite the hissy fit for not even being named directly. You really do have a guilty conscience about this, don't you?

Actually, I think he is so over his head that he has developed a faux intellectual over-response to any perceived critism. Sort of like the Clinton war room. And when he has the nomination wrapped up we will really see this over-reaction in torrents.

99 Roger  5/16/08 9:50:32 am reply quote

re: #15 Charles

Democratic spinner now on Fox: Obama's gonna tell Iran, "you can't have nuclear weapons."

Oooh. That's gonna really make em quake in their robes.

And they will agree and then Barry will say look, the Iranians are better then Americans and will promptly start dismantling US nuclear weapons systems completely. Even before that he says he will take them all off of alert.

100 buzzsawmonkey  5/16/08 9:50:48 am reply quote

re: #94 jwpaine

Look at the two alternatives.

Bob Barr is starting to look good.

Babar is King of the Elephants, not President of the United States.

101 Athos  5/16/08 9:51:09 am reply quote

re: #74 SeattleSE

Please, someone explain to me how educated people can be so stupid.

They see only what they want to believe as opposed to believing what they see.

102 karmic_inquisitor  5/16/08 9:51:11 am reply quote

re: #84 Kalak

He isn't lying.

He doesn't consider Hamas and Hezbollah to be terrorists. Therefore, he will negotiate with them.

It's all in the semantics.

Adding to that thought, all Obama has to do is signal that there are no terrorists and that the term is inherently pejorative and dehumanizing - straight from dKos.

Then he can negotiate with anyone and anything and never encounter a terrorist.

103 formercorpsman  5/16/08 9:51:13 am reply quote

Does anyone think the speech Bush gave could have been taylored with an intent to draw such responses for all the players who have opened their mouths? Not the only reason for the speech, but certainly recognizing this is a political weak spot for the Dems, and exploiting it?

Pelosi who met with Assad, etc?

It sets the stage for their words to stand against their actions.

104 jcm  5/16/08 9:51:30 am reply quote

Iran is the crux of a lot a problems.
Hamas.
Hezballah.
Lebanon.
Iraq Insurgency.
Syria.
Source of Hard currency to NorKo.

It is beyond naive to think talking with acolytes of the 12th Imam will result in anything other than emboldening them.
It's beyond dangerous.

IT'S SUICIDAL!

105 Alouette  5/16/08 9:51:47 am reply quote

Osbama isn't lying, he doesn't believe Dinnerjacket is a "terrorist."

106 Kenneth  5/16/08 9:51:47 am reply quote

Obama has vowed to pull out nearly all US troops within 6 months. He has vowed to scrap missile defense. He has signaled he will abandon Israel. He has openly stated he will concede Iraq to Iran.

By the time Obama actually meets with the Iranians, he will have given away all his sticks and his carrots. What's left to negotiate?

107 maddogg  5/16/08 9:51:48 am reply quote

Obama continues to demonstrate a lack of character that typifies most Democratic politicians for the last 30 years.

108 really grumpy big dog Johnson  5/16/08 9:51:48 am reply quote

Obama has the magic wand for everything. One waive, and all your troubles go away. Peace, brother, and may the force be with you.

"If George Bush and John McCain want to have a debate..."

This is the kind of garbage that spews from that man's mouth.

109 BuddyG  5/16/08 9:51:48 am reply quote

re: #93 brainwizard73

Barack better bite the head off of a gizzly bear on Hannity and Colmes tonight ...


I'd watch that!

110 brainwizard73  5/16/08 9:52:22 am reply quote

re: #94 jwpaine

Look at the two alternatives.

Bob Barr is starting to look good.

Better watch out, those might be beer goggles you are wearing.

111 Kosh's Shadow  5/16/08 9:52:25 am reply quote

re: #91 cod_is_great

It's hard to be "tough" when you've already ceded so much ground by being "direct."

And Obama couldn't even get Rev. Wright to change his mind about whether or not the government created AIDS to kill off minorities or about whether Jesus was a black Palestinian persecuted by Jews and Garlic noses...He's going to convince the sunked eyed money to swear off the 12th Imam?

No, Obama will reveal himself to be the Madhi. (I think someone else said that as well)

112 brainwizard73  5/16/08 9:53:27 am reply quote

re: #109 BuddyG

I'd watch that!

I would too. Any man that could go "Davy Crockett" on the bit might cause me to take another look...

113 alegrias  5/16/08 9:54:19 am reply quote

re: #44 Da Coyote

With respect to the Obamaloon being "unlectable", let us not forget that McKennedy is doing a fine job of alienating his entire base. I personally think he's only slightly less dense than Obama. Folks, our potential nominee is a dork. Perhaps the Repubs can regain some semblance of sense and nominate someone that we can support.

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McCain has actually been to Iraq, unlike the other guy.
McCain has actually talked to our allies in Ira