The truth hurts

Senator Kerry to this day has not released his Navy records.

I think they don't realize whining about it only draws attention to the President's comment, whereas if they'd let it go, no one would be talking about it. What a bunch of idiots.

What's the old saying? When you're getting the most flak, you're over the target?

If the shoe fits, Obama....

but because there was substance to a lot of their allegations

No there wasn't, they were "discredited". I mean, ask any liberal news source. (Just don't ask them any specifics.)

re: #5 Occasional Reader

No there wasn't, they were "discredited". I mean, ask any liberal news source. (Just don't ask them any specifics.)

It's one of the biggest frauds perpetrated by the media, actually.

What's interesting is that Bush issued a statement that the appeasement remarks were aimed at Carter.

But everyone is acting as if it was aimed at Obama. All that tells the public is that he is a appeaser.

re: #2 rawmuse

And the Billaries will not release their 2007 income tax report until after the election.

What is it with the Demonrats?

In ancient times there was a community known as the Goodnu's. As all communities did in these times the Goodnu's lived right on the river bank for trading, transportation and sustenance. Water was almighty and worshipped as a God. One day there was a tremendous hurricane far out in the ocean. It's ferocity blew a large flock of "Foo" birds way off course sending them inland many hundreds of miles and in the vicinity of the Goodnu's community. The Goodnu people had never seen a "Foo" bird and were quite curious as to it's sudden and obviously evil presence. The "Foo" bird, as we all know, is a very ugly, evil-looking bird. This caused the Goodnu people to become very uneasy believing they did something wrong to God and that this bird should be avoided. One day a "Foo" bird flew overhead and screeched: "Foo, Foo" and shit on a Goodnu's head. The man ran screaming into the river believing the Holy powers of the river would cleanse him of this evil turd and its consequences. As soon as the man washed this unholy turd from his ear canal he suddenly keeled over and died. The Goodnu's were now convinced of the "Foo" bird's evilness. The next day a woman was outside and heard: "Foo, Foo". Before she could react the "Foo" bird dropped a bomb landing a syrupy turd across her face. Shocked and panicked she ran into the river furiously washing her face of this sloppy stew. The village watched in horror as this woman also died once cleansed of the runny turd. The very next day a village wiseman heard those famous words: "Foo, Foo". He like others had witnessed the terrible deaths of two of his villages' people in the last two days. He too was struck right in the forehead by the "Foo" birds accurately guided turd missile. His first reaction was confusion and he sprinted towards the river. However, he stopped short and thought of his obvious demise should he cleanse the turd wafer from his forehead. He did not cleanse the poo pile from his forehead and lived. So the wiseman went to the other people of the village, gathered them around and stated to them: "There is an obvious lesson here my good people. The moral of this story is: 'If the Foo shits, wear it.'".

re: #6 Charles

It's one of the biggest frauds perpetrated by the media, actually.

Stiff competition for that title...

re: #4 Shay4l

Yeah...but..

How dare anyone question Messiah (even if he wasn't mentioned directly by name)?!?!?!?!

re: #9 jcm

Damned near choked on my ice chips! ;)

re: #8 NY Nana

They are above all us rubes who cling to guns and religion. Thus, they don't have to play by the rules.

The UN investigator will get Obama's campaign back on track.
Of course I'm not voting for him because he's black—something I have no problem with—
and not because he's a communist crypto-Muslim—which I find most annoying.

I don’t think the American public is buying it

Inshallah, habibi.

What a wonderful world it is where we, the Little People, have a chance to prevail over such a persistent and unending blizzard of BS. Not that long ago, we would have been buried up to our necks in similar or worse frauds, with no opportunity for rebuttal.

Kudos, Charles Johnson.

I just saw Jamie Rubin on Geraldo's show.

After watching his performance, I'd have to say you are right about wanting to look tough. He all but said, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!"

Nevermind that he was fibbing...

Very little is considered "over the top" by the left. Cheney has a heart attack and they pray for his death. They compare our troops to Nazi's, they have a continuous and juvenile protest of the Marine recruiters at Berkley, and under no circumstance can they be considered anything but red white and blue patriots!

/ we don't need no stinking flags

I'm just glad to see that W still has a pair.

The libs can`t stand anything with the truth remotely connected to it since their house of cards is built on lies and deception.

Methinks, they doeth protest, too much

re: #18 LoFlyer

Very little is considered "over the top" by the left. Cheney has a heart attack and they pray for his death. They compare our troops to Nazi's, they have a continuous and juvenile protest of the Marine recruiters at Berkley, and under no circumstance can they be considered anything but red white and blue patriots!

/ we don't need no stinking flags

Yeah- but mention one of their own is an appeaser, and all hell breaks loose.

re: #20 theparson

I'm just glad to see that W still has a pair.

If he had a REAL pair, his response to the Obamessiah would've been ONE question:

"Why do you think I was talking about you?"

/W's from Texas. He knows the hit dog hollers the loudest.

They want to look tough to the base ... whine and complain about unfair remarks

This is the modern Democrat party, and these are the days of whine and poseurs.

re: #24 OldLineTexan

I reckon but, at least he ain't gotta empty sack.

"Despite the deluge of desperately yapping Dems."

Sheesh. Now I'm channeling Spiro Agnew.

Get out of my head, Spiro!

Great explanation of 'swiftboating'. I hate how the dems use that term.

This is all typical. Remember the loud whining about how people were reposting their past comments and how that was 'mean-spirited'. Eh? o_O

re: #23 Sharmuta

Yeah- but mention one of their own is an appeaser, and all hell breaks loose.

Well what else can they be called then, chicken? Yellow? Scared? I got it, we will just call them losers.....

re: #25 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Definitely not a party of heroes, but a party of "victims".

Why is it the appeasers want to fight everyone but the enemy? Perhaps Barack OCarter would like to refresh our memories on the number of glorious victories amassed over the years by the advocates of appeasement?

"Change!" is becoming "Change, Damnit!"

I notice Drudge still has an article up about the McCain wanting to negotiate with Hamas despite the fact the story was debunked two days ago.

re: #13 mitthrawnurdo

Too true...and IIRC, most of them are far richer than the Republicans. Go figure.

And if they were just wealthy before they took office? They end up with libraries we pay for, all sorts of book contracts, world-wide speeches...name it, and then dare to represent themselves as the party of the people. They forget to mention that they are totally out of touch with their constituents.

When you throw a rock, the dog that yelps is the one you hit. Or something like that.

Two very important things to remembe about "Swift Boating"
1. The raison d'etre for the Swift Boaters to begin with was the fact that Kerry suddenly decided to play up his "strong on defense" credentials by portraying himself as a war hero. Who could forget the ridiculous spectacle of him stepping up to the podium, saluting and announcing he was "reporting for duty?" What a joke! If his war service were truly heroic, it would speak for itself as McCain's does.
Kerry was hardly remarkable in his unremarkable service. Lots of american soldiers put in undistinguished tours of duty in Vietnam but it was his decision to play it up that made it an issue.
2. The issue for many of Kerry's fellow vets was not his mediocre fighting in Vietnam but his active and zealous fighting on behalf of the enemy after he got back. Then and now, his traitorous betrayal of his country... in front of the U.S. Congress no less!... weighs much more heavily for his fellow veterans than anything he did or failed to do in Vietnam. ...or (Hah!) Cambodia.

re: #29 Charles

Get out of my head, Spiro!

In the United States today, we have more than our share of nattering nabobs of negativism.
Agnew

*ducks and runs*

re: #29 Charles

Get out of my head, Spiro!

Nattering Nabobs of Nuance.

As Mark Steyn says:

It says something for Democrat touchiness that the minute a guy makes a generalized observation about folks who appease terrorists and dictators the Dems assume: Hey, they're talking about me. Actually, he wasn't – or, to be more precise, he wasn't talking only about you.

Obama Nation aint gonna get Swift Boated!

Ya'll stop hittin dogs!
It's wabbit season.

The Audacity of Unspecified Criticism.

re: #43 theparson

Ya'll stop hittin dogs!
It's wabbit season.

Duck season!

/ducks

It was also clear to me that the reason Kerry didn't react more strongly to the allegations was because he was terrified.

BHO has a "swift response team" to what they claim will counter-attack swift-boating. GWB baited the Dhimmicrats perfectly, but the amateurish fools who run the BHO campaign let BHO swallow it hook, line and sinker.

re: #38 damnyanqui

I remember watching that, Kerry was sweating like a pig when he saluted. The dishonesty and silliness of it all was nagging at him apparently.

First Obama assumes GWB was referring to him when there was nothing to suggest that was the case. It's much easier to assume he was referring to Jimmah. Then, instead of taking the opposite of the appeasement side of the argument, by saying Bush comments were correct, he attacks the statements basically by stating he'll have cookies and goat milk with the all worlds terror leaders. And to think this neophyte has a chance of being president?

re: #9 jcm

Could this be one of the family pets? ;)

re: #32 mitthrawnurdo

They're not a party, they're a cluster of idiots.

Barry really struggles at explaining himself when its not a rehearsed presentation. Badly.

re: #47 ted

BHO has a "swift response team" to what they claim will counter-attack swift-boating. GWB baited the Dhimmicrats perfectly, but the amateurish fools who run the BHO campaign let BHO swallow it hook, line and sinker.

"The Lady, she doth protest to much methinks."

Shakespeare, Republican Strategist

I'm not too sure about this. I think I read it on some obscure web site or news account, but was John Kerry in Vietnam, and did he get a purple heart ?

re: #46 Charles

It was also clear to me that the reason Kerry didn't react more strongly to the allegations was because he was terrified.

The only thing that saved Kerry was the refusal of the American media to investigate any of the charges leveled by the swift boat veterans. 2004 was the year when media showed their true colors as liberal propagandists, 2008 will even be worse once Obama gets the nomination....

re: #53 karmic_inquisitor

Michael Ramirez cartoon:
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

re: #55 sattv4u2

I'm not too sure about this. I think I read it on some obscure web site or news account, but was John Kerry in Vietnam, and did he get a purple heart ?

Vietnam hell, he was clean into Cambodia and past.

/right?

Shar called it exsctly right. "Elite Crybabies". The whooseitude of these crybabies beats that of Carter.

re: #55 sattv4u2

I'm not too sure about this. I think I read it on some obscure web site or news account, but was John Kerry in Vietnam, and did he get a purple heart ?

And I heard somewhere that Barack Obama is eloquent and will unite us and bring Change!

re: #60 karmic_inquisitor

And I heard somewhere that Barack Obama is eloquent and will unite us and bring Change!

HOPE

re: #37 Mich-again

When you throw a rock, the dog that yelps is the one you hit. Or something like that.

I think that is "the guilty dog always barks first".

Could "W" also be talking about Pelosi? Who is back talking to her mid east friends...AGAIN! sheeesh

re: #61 sattv4u2

HOPE

Drink!

re: #55 sattv4u2

I'm not too sure about this. I think I read it on some obscure web site or news account, but was John Kerry in Vietnam, and did he get a purple heart ?

John Kerry's unique wound from a flying rice kernel is the stuff legends are made of.

So, a Republican states a fact and within two minutes, Obama and his posse are all over the airwaves whining about it like little girls. It's becoming an obvious pattern. Is this all we have to look forward to for the next six months? It's also already getting old fast.

/take it like a man Senator!

re: #27 Charles

"Despite the deluge of desperately yapping Dems."

Sheesh. Now I'm channeling Spiro Agnew.

A great American:

"Nattering nabobs of negativism" is one of the most popular turns of phrase associated with U.S. Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, who served under Richard Nixon until resigning in October 1974, after pleading no contest to charges of tax fraud. Agnew, who had a particularly acrimonious relationship with the press, used this term to refer to the members of the media, whom he also deemed "an effete corps of impudent snobs."

According to the Congressional Record, this term was first used during Agnew's address to the California Republican state convention in San Diego on September 11, 1970. In context, it was used together with another well-known Agnew alliteration: "In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4-H Club -- the "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history."

Although this phrase is often credited to Agnew himself, it was actually written by William Safire, the legendary columnist for The New York Times, who was a speechwriter for Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew. Some of Agnew's other pearls were actually written by Patrick Buchanan, another White House speechwriter at the time.

[Link: www.answers.com...]

re: #66 Killian Bundy

So, a Republican states a fact and within two minutes, Obama and his posse are all over the airwaves whining about it like little girls. It's becoming an obvious pattern. Is this all we have to look forward to for the next six months? It's also already getting old fast.

/take it like a man Senator!

Actually we could be talking about the next 4 and a half years....

"An intellectual is a man who doesn't know how to park a bike”

Spiro Agnew

re: #58 OldLineTexan

Vietnam hell, he was clean into Cambodia and past.

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At Christmas!

//

re: #63 jjmckay1216

Could "W" also be talking about Pelosi? Who is back talking to her mid east friends...AGAIN! sheeesh

Actually, thew White House stated he it was a rebuke of Carter meeting with Hamas(oles)

I did what Obama did in 9th Grade once . Everyone laughed at me. it will always be 9th Grade for Obama.

I've listened to Bush's speech a few times now - it is totally incredible and moving and I recommend every lizard pays whitehouse.gov a visit and listens to it.

When you do, it becomes totally and obviously clear that Bush was talking about leftwing/peacenik appeasement in general.

If his comments were supposed to be attack an un-named individual then it was certainly Jimmy Carter, rather than Obama.

re: #70 gibsonz

Vietnam hell, he was clean into Cambodia and past.

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At Christmas!

//

Charlie don't deck the halls!

re: #66 Killian Bundy

So, a Republican states a fact and within two minutes, Obama and his posse are all over the airwaves whining about it like little girls. It's becoming an obvious pattern. Is this all we have to look forward to for the next six months? It's also already getting old fast.

/take it like a man Senator!

Wonder how well he will deal with foreign challenges if he can't even judge "an attack" properly.

re: #62 Kreuzueber Halbmond

I think that is "the guilty dog always barks first".

If the shoe fits, wear it!

"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along..."

How do the Dems respond to this? More talk?

re: #53 karmic_inquisitor

"The Lady, she doth protest to much methinks."

Shakespeare, Republican Strategist

Oh yes...

It's called "controlling the narrative", which in their view happens by running your mouth at high speed. Since they have no brains, for them, this is a good strategy.

re: #29 Charles

Am I right to assume that you will not want this for your birthday?

re: #58 OldLineTexan

Vietnam hell, he was clean into Cambodia and past.

/right?

I almost forgot about the Magic Hat®

re: #57 jaunte

Michael Ramirez cartoon:
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

That's fantastic. One that had me laughing was the May 15th one, "The McCain Mutiny". LOL!

re: #2 rawmuse

Senator Kerry to this day has not released his Navy records.

He can't. They contain all that secret information about his CIA Cambodian sortie.

re: #77 solomonpanting

I'd like to hear their 'ingenious argument'.

re: #73 uptight

I've listened to Bush's speech a few times now - it is totally incredible and moving and I recommend every lizard pays whitehouse.gov a visit and listens to it.

When you do, it becomes totally and obviously clear that Bush was talking about leftwing/peacenik appeasement in general.

If his comments were supposed to be attack an un-named individual then it was certainly Jimmy Carter, rather than Obama.

Don't go to whitehouse.com, I did that during the Clinton administration and the pics of Monica were interesting to say the least. It was a porn site.....

re: #81 karmic_inquisitor

I almost forgot about the Magic Hat®

/and the Flyin' Dog!

Just a thought on the strategy BHO is taking. In law school they teach the Socratic Method of Argument. The underlying thought is that the first person in the argument decries the theory of the second thus invalidating the argument in its current state. Therefore by screaming foul the truth is invalidated.

Otherwise BHO just can't find his big boy pants.

re: #82 gop_patriot

Those leaping elephants were funny.

This from Noel Sheppard hits home:

Thursday May 15, 2008, American media hit a new low. To paraphrase Michelle Obama, I have never been less proud of my country.

On the occasion of Israel's 60th anniversary, President George W. Bush gave one of the greatest speeches of his career.

Yet, America's media could only see this event through the tiny prism of the upcoming presidential election, and thereby totally ignored virtually everything that was said by the most powerful man in the world to one of our nation's greatest allies.

From a speech that lasted over 20 minutes -- interrupted eight times by applause from Israeli Knesset members -- America's media exclusively reported 83 words they felt insulted the candidate for president they have been unashamedly supporting for over a year.

Everything else in the President's stirring and emotional address went completely ignored, so much so that the other 2,400 words were totally irrelevant, as was the signficance of the day and the moment.

Via News Busters

Media Disgrace America, Israel and Themselves

re: #77 solomonpanting

"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along..."

How do the Dems respond to this? More talk?

My question is this:
Where have all the great speeches like this been these last 7 years? If only...

re: #84 jaunte

I'd like to hear their 'ingenious argument'.

Thats code for Jedi Mind Tricks. They work on weak minded species, but are useless against those with more advanced brains. You just wave your hand and say exactly what you want the other person to think, like "These aren't the droids you're looking for"

re: #84 jaunte

I'd like to hear their 'ingenious argument'.

Yo tambien.

Remember the big news that Obama was going to have a "swift response team" to contain things like this. This is the best they got? A shed full of shovels?

re: #55 sattv4u2

I'm not too sure about this. I think I read it on some obscure web site or news account, but was John Kerry in Vietnam, and did he get a purple heart ?

Here is the info on the liar and POS: Kerry Purple Heart Doc Speaks Out

[...]I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.
John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.[....

Read it all..it is just disgraceful.

.If Obama thinks this is a crisis, he is an idiot. He is showing panic.

re: #89 Geepers

Thanks for the link, excellent story....

re: #94 NY Nana

John Kerry was in Viet Nam? Who knew?

/

re: #55 sattv4u2

John Kerry claimed 3 purple hearts, and was never treated medically with anything more than a band-aid. That from a medic who treated him..

re: #91 Mich-again

re: #92 solomonpanting

It happens every time someone (usually with a D next to their name) says "we've got to sit down and talk with these people" I think immediately "what (or who) are you going to give up to them?"

What more can you say than what Frank J says over at IMAO.US

"President Bush should denounce "dickless wonders who crap themselves in the face of any opposition and both look and smell like a baboon's butt" and see if any Democrats get angry saying Bush was talking about them."

Lol.

re: #94 NY Nana

Thank you for going through so much trouble ,,,,, but I was being totally sarcastic. I know all about Mr. Ketchup. I lived in MAssachusetts for 40 + years

re: #70 gibsonz

Vietnam hell, he was clean into Cambodia and past.

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At Christmas!

//

At the direct order President Nixon! In '68!

re: #46 Charles,

Kerry could have always released his military records to counter the swift boat vets. That he didn't is prima facia evidence that he has something in there to hide.

We can only speculate on what that is.

Wait a minute, here. Some of you are suggesting that Kerry knew the 3 Hearts rule and played it!

re: #59 pat

Thanks, pat.

I think for the elitist crybabies the problem isn't that they're appeasers- it's that President Bush actually said so. How dare he!

We are not! We are not appeasers... and yes I'll talk to iran.

re: #98 CapeCoddah

John Kerry claimed 3 purple hearts, and was never treated medically with anything more than a band-aid. That from a medic who treated him..

Tell me again - how long was this tour that resulted in multiple injuries, injuries serious enough to warrant Purple Hearts?

Been out all day.

Glad Kennedy seems to be okay.

I really like Laura Ingram.

And all the crybabies need to GET IN MAH BELLY!

(no veg jokes please).

re: #102 jcm

re: #70 gibsonz

Vietnam hell, he was clean into Cambodia and past.

%u25BA%u25BA%u25BA%u25BA%u25BA %u25BA

At Christmas!

//

At the direct order President Nixon! In '68!

Uphill ,,,,both ways ,,,, in the snow !

On the occasion of Israel's 60th anniversary, President George W. Bush gave one of the greatest speeches of his career.

Well,there's two reasons right there to expect the MSM to go all PMS.

re: #102 jcm

At the direct order President Nixon! In '68!

Burned into his memory and held in place by a magic hat.

re: #90 unrealizedviewpoint

My question is this:
Where have all the great speeches like this been these last 7 years? If only...

That's been the one great lapse of Bush, not using the bully pulpit constantly.

re: #85 LoFlyer

Don't go to whitehouse.com, I did that during the Clinton administration and the pics of Monica were interesting to say the least. It was a porn site.....

Believe it or not, it's now a political site. It kinda sucks, so it hasn't completely lost the Clinton era aspect.

Kerry was advised by Bill Clinton and John McCain NOT to use the Vietnam hero thing in his campaign.

Ref: "Stolen Valor"

When you're on the defensive like Obama is, everything negative is about you. He's hearing things that apply to him that aren't directed at him specifically, because he knows that what Bush said is true of him, even when no name is mentioned. I read any number of people over the years that could've applied to. But poor battered Barack just can't win in this racist atmosphere. I just don't see the sympathy vote coming out for him, and maybe that's what he's after.
The Democratic Party has turned into a bunch of Debbie Downer's.

re: #104 pat

Wait a minute, here. Some of you are suggesting that Kerry knew the 3 Hearts rule and played it!

I really don't care about any of that. I care about "Winter Soldier". That's all. Viet Nam is over and long done; we buy tennis shoes from them, now.

But the dishonor of "Winter Soldier" is a permanent stain.

PS - Isn't it interesting that Obama wants to lead the world but has no qualms stating that Alaska and Hawaii are too dangerous for him to visit.

This was during the little clip where he also says he's been to 57 states...and missed getting to 1 or maybe 3 of the remaining ones.

re: #99 jaunte

Obama thinks his Jedi Mind Tricks are enough.

re: #113 Ol' flyboy

Kerry was advised by Bill Clinton and John McCain NOT to use the Vietnam hero thing in his campaign.

Ref: "Stolen Valor"

That is a superb book. And tough to read, actually.

re: #97 Mich-again

Hey, you stole my line!

And Bubba spent the war demonstrating in front of the American Embassy in London, while he was in England on a Fulbright.

Why has this been ignored? It seems that a Demonrat gets a free pass on draft dodging, tax returns, military records, and worse...name it. If a Republican sneezes?

U.S. soldier uses Quran for target practice; military apologizes

Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond, commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad, apologized to leaders in Radhwaniya, in the western outskirts of Baghdad, for the staff sergeant who was a sniper section leader assigned to the headquarters of the 64th Armored Regiment. He also read a letter of apology by the shooter.

It was the first time the incident -- which tested the relationship between U.S.-backed Sunni militiamen and the military -- was made public since it was discovered May 11.

"I come before you here seeking your forgiveness," Hammond said to tribal leaders and others at the apology ceremony. "In the most humble manner I look in your eyes today and I say please forgive me and my soldiers."

Another military official kissed a Quran and presented is as "a humble gift" to the tribal leaders.

/a Bible would have been okay though

re: #38 damnyanqui

When Kerry stood in front of the convention and said as he saluted, "I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty" I knew he had lost the election. Relive the moment 1:30 in.

re: #111 solomonpanting

That's been the one great lapse of Bush, not using the bully pulpit constantly.

Absolutely. Don't speak well? PRACTICE. If only GW had studied Teddy Roosevelt.

re: #104 pat

Wait a minute, here. Some of you are suggesting that Kerry knew the 3 Hearts rule and played it!

It wasn't just Kerry. His superiors knew the ruling and used it to protect the poor guys serving under Kerry. He was a walking disaster waiting to happen and his shipmates knew it. There is only one thing worse than an enlisted fuck-up and that is a commissioned fuck-up....

Can't you people just let Senator Obama eat his waffle?

I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty!

re: #122 HelloDare

When Kerry stood in front of the convention and said as he saluted, "I'm John Kerry Lurch from the Addams Family ,,,and I'm reporting for duty you rang?" I knew he had lost the election. Relive the moment 1:30 in.

re: #120 NY Nana

HIt seems that a Demonrat gets a free pass on draft dodging, tax returns, military records, and worse...name it. If a Republican sneezes?

Partisan!
:-)

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Got a link for that debunking? I need to go kick some liberal asses on the HF board!

Another good read: "To Set the Record Straight" by Scott Swett, he of wintersoldier.com. I learned of the book here on LGF.

re: #111 solomonpanting

That's been the one great lapse of Bush, not using the bully pulpit constantly.

He should at all times have a speechwriter in each pocket. He learned that at the 1st debate in 2004. But forgot again right after the election.

Lefty will never learn that relativism and troof are two-edged swords.

Old Southern proverb: "When you stick a hog, he squeals!" The Democrats are squealing way too much, don't you think?

Couldn't the president's condemnation of appeasement have been interpreted as being aimed at certain European governments and United Nations officials? The White House specifically pointed at Jimmy Carter, who is fiercely competing with James Buchanan for the title of worst president of the United States ever.

Earlier his week, I was at an anti-terrorism presentation by Michael Shaheen ("Crush the Cell") here in NYC, who noted that the U.N. seems to believe that the only nation in the world against which terrorist attacks are acceptable is Israel. The Palestinians are routinely appeased by many governments, including our own.

As for Kerry, the rumors persist that the Pentagon punished him for his exaggerations of his war service, and that he was dishonorably discharged, but that Jimmy Carter's pardon enabled him to erase the dishonor from his record. Until he releases all of his records, as he promised years ago, we'll never know.

re: #120 NY Nana

Hey, you stole my line!

And Bubba spent the war demonstrating in front of the American Embassy in London, while he was in England on a Fulbright.

Why has this been ignored? It seems that a Demonrat gets a free pass on draft dodging, tax returns, military records, and worse...name it. If a Republican sneezes?

Actually, it was a Rhodes Scholarship. He didn't attend lectures or earn a master's degree, as most Rhodes Scholars do. He just partied.

I do know that for a fact. I worked at the Oxford admin offices in the early 90s.

re: #106 unrealizedviewpoint
Dont recall how long he was there off the top, but he scooted after he collected his third band-aid..the rules say 3 purple hearts, and you earn out, so he stubbed his toe as often as he could, the yellow bellied coward masquerading as a war hero, makes me sick to my stomach. A classmate and close childhood friend of mine died in Somalia,(Blackhawk down) He was a Ranger and not yet 30 years old., and every time this issue surfaces, I get mad as hell, that this coward did what he did. You will never, ever, hear a REAL military hero blow his own horn. They are the humblest of men.

Last fall Texas millionaire T. Boone Pickens offered Kerry $1 million for every Swiftboat charge that Kerry could disprove. The only response from Kerry thusfar: chirping crickets.

LoFlyer (#124),

It wasn't just Kerry. His superiors knew the ruling and used it to protect the poor guys serving under Kerry. He was a walking disaster waiting to happen and his shipmates knew it. There is only one thing worse than an enlisted fuck-up and that is a commissioned fuck-up....

And that's the truth.

re: #124 LoFlyer

It wasn't just Kerry. His superiors knew the ruling and used it to protect the poor guys serving under Kerry. He was a walking disaster waiting to happen and his shipmates knew it. There is only one thing worse than an enlisted fuck-up and that is a commissioned fuck-up....

I was being sarcastic, but that is a very deep observation. Worth pondering.

The Obama camp is playing purely reactive politics, and in this case it’s over-reactive politics. I don’t think the American public is buying it, despite the deluge of desperately yapping Dems in the media.

Spot on, Charles.

The series of "on talking-point" "meme" reactions of Democrats, most of them practically quoting from the memo or txt msg they all got, made me cover my ears (well, not literally, since I was driving when I heard them).

re: #80 NY Nana

Aah Nana, now you done spoiled the surprise.

re: #89 Geepers

Hey, man! What's up?

It's good to see you :-)

re: #49 unrealizedviewpoint

First Obama assumes GWB was referring to him when there was nothing to suggest that was the case. It's much easier to assume he was referring to Jimmah. Then, instead of taking the opposite of the appeasement side of the argument, by saying Bush comments were correct, he attacks the statements basically by stating he'll have cookies and goat milk with the all worlds terror leaders. And to think this neophyte has a chance of being president?

The media was pushing the Bush slams Obama meme pretty hard.

According to CNN, "white house aides" confirmed to Susanne Malvo's colleague Ed Howard (sp?) that "Obama was in fact who he was referring to when he talked about that policy of appeasement."
Bush Compares Obama to Nazi Appeasers

I don't know if that report preceded or followed this, by Obama:
Obama Criticizes McCain, Bush Over Attacks

re: #6 Charles

Kerry's "band of brothers" disappeared when he made all those conflicting statements about Christmas in Cambodia. The press didn't hunt his brothers down for confirmation. Wasn't it about five days later that one of them finally surfaced and said something like, "I don't recall being in Cambodia."
Tried to find the quote but couldn't.

Iron Fist (#141),

Hey Mon! It goes good.

How ya been?

re: #133 quickjustice

Your statement in all likely hood is the straight scoop. He can't release his records, he'd prove he was a traitor.

re: #142 abolitionist
PIMF. Ed Howard Ed Henry

re: #142 abolitionist

The media was pushing the Bush slams Obama meme pretty hard.

According to CNN, "white house aides" confirmed to Susanne Malvo's colleague Ed Howard (sp?) that "Obama was in fact who he was referring to when he talked about that policy of appeasement."
Bush Compares Obama to Nazi Appeasers

I don't know if that report preceded or followed this, by Obama:
Obama Criticizes McCain, Bush Over Attacks

Well okay then. :)
I'll edit my comment:

re: #49 unrealizedviewpoint

First Obama assumes GWB was referring to him when there was nothing to suggest that was the case. It's much easier to assume he was referring to Jimmah. Then, instead of taking the opposite of the appeasement side of the argument, by saying Bush comments were correct, he attacks the statements basically by stating he'll have cookies and goat milk with the all worlds terror leaders. And to think this neophyte has a chance of being president?

Obama's achilles heel has been revealed by the Bush speech. He is extremely vain and oversensitive to any criticism. Clinton went fairly moderate on him as a democratic opponent who would need Obama's voters support to get elected. Talk radio, 527s, etc. will wreck havoc on the psyche and performance of this brittle candidate. He has already been transformed from a transcendent candidate to a regular politician willing to play the race card.

What the democrats don't seem to understand is that Obama is not as credible a candidate as was John Kerry. They are in severe trouble if McCain can get his s*** together.

re: #144 Geepers

I'm doing well. Work, eat, and sleep, mostly. Things are good with the Girlfriend as well.

It's really funny that a strong pro-strength message by the president was treated as such a threat by the dems. Is their candidate so weak that such comments cause them to roll over and wet themselves?

/of course it is

What's even more funny is who they trotted out to deliver the attacks: Tom Daschle and John Kerry?

/this would be hysterical if our country's future weren't at stake

re: #128 jaunte

Partisan!

Bingo! Give juante a prize!

re: #147 unrealizedviewpoint

I fully agree. :)

re: #135 CapeCoddah

Dont recall how long he was there off the top, but he scooted after he collected his third band-aid..the rules say 3 purple hearts, and you earn out, so he stubbed his toe as often as he could, the yellow bellied coward masquerading as a war hero, makes me sick to my stomach. A classmate and close childhood friend of mine died in Somalia,(Blackhawk down) He was a Ranger and not yet 30 years old., and every time this issue surfaces, I get mad as hell, that this coward did what he did. You will never, ever, hear a REAL military hero blow his own horn. They are the humblest of men.

I mentioned it because he was in Vietnam only 4 months. When searching for confirmation I found John Kerry's snopes page.

I listened to Bush's speech and it seemed to me to refer more pointedly to international leaders rather than any US leaders. I thought it was a master stroke, however, that when asked to clarify who the target was, the White House immediately said, "Jimmy Carter"! Swish, two points! It's far past time someone from our government took a shot at that disgraceful idiot. Jimmah's been uncharacteristically quiet, though. Maybe he got the message? (Yeah, right.)

It’s interesting just how quickly and loudly Barak Hussein Obama responded to president Bush’s general comment on appeasement.

J. Peter “Ah . . . you’re not going to be able to write anymore after this, you know that, right?” Scoblic wrote this defense (via Hot Air) of BHO, all the while completely incapable of seeing the difference between an already-militarily-strong USSR (and choosing to negotiate with it) and the mullah-mismanaged Iran of today (remove the IEDs and various suicide bombers, and the mullahs have nothing).

Scoblic fails to answer two basic questions:

1. Why should we allow the Iranian death-wish-via-proxy mullahs (they have others die; they’re not men enough to die themselves) to acquire nuclear weapons, and thereby become a real threat?

2. When has negotiating with petty despots ever worked? Nothing in the last 100 years comes to mind.

But Scoblic isn't running for office; BHO is. We need answers from BHO.

BHO’s foreign policy seems to be nothing other than “talk”.

It is the sort of talk that allowed Kim-The-Well-Fed-Yet-Still-Short to acquire what appears to be nuclear weapons. It will allow the Iranian mullahs to acquire nuclear weapons.

It is the sort of talk that shielded Pol Pot and Co. from justice. (Is it working for Mugabe? I detect a Marxist profile).

It is the sort of talk that seems to never prevent mass killings in Rwanda Burundi Congo Darfur Africa (what’s the latest on Kenya?).

Keep pushing the “appeasement” button to see what BHO’s got.

Right now, as per his experience and resume, he seems to have no good answers, and this needs to be seen publicly.

OK Everyone -

Having formally left the "D" Plantation earlier this year to vote for MITT ROMNEY, let me say this to the Obama-Nation - Truman, Harry S, - Kitchen, Heat - If all 'y'all can't stand it - GET OUT!

-S-

Iron Fist (#149),

Things are good with the Girlfriend as well.

Glad to hear it. Say hi for me.

"I'm Obama & I'll cry if I want to...'

I clipped this from a NYT story.

Mr. Obama drew a distinction, saying his administration would start negotiations with Iran “without preconditions” and being directly involved himself. For that to occur, he added, Iran would have to meet benchmarks or conditions.

Huh? There would be no preconditions, however there would be conditions. Allrighty then.

re: #159 Mich-again

"I was for no preconditions before I was for them."

re: #159 Mich-again

Huh? There would be no preconditions, however there would be conditions. Allrighty then.

..and in his speech he DID say that, like that. And to think he'll be debating John McCain in a few months. This will be fun.

Funny picture of Obama on the campaign trail. He a real stand-up guy.

re: #159 Mich-again

I clipped this from a NYT story.

Huh? There would be no preconditions, however there would be conditions. Allrighty then.

SHES MY SISTER MY DAUGHTER MY SISTER MY DAUGHTER MY SISTER
Faye Dunaway in Chinatown

re: #160 solomonpanting

From the NYT article

It’s time to present Iran with a clear choice,” Mr. Obama said. “If it abandons its nuclear program, support for terror and threats to Israel, then Iran can rejoin the community of nations. If not, Iran will face deeper isolation and steeper sanctions.”

And just how is that any different than what Iran has already been told by the Bush Administration? Abandon the nuclear program (non-starter) quit supporting terror (non-starter) and quit threatening Israel ( non-starter).

Is this his grandiose scheme for "hope and change" regarding negotiations with Iran? Wow. Why didn't anyone else ever come up with that plan? The man is a genius.

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re: #147 unrealizedviewpoint

If it was CNN, I'm not sure I would believe any references or attributions to mythical "white house aids", particularly when official spokesman later indicated the reference was really directed at Carter.

re: #163 BIGDUKE 6

SHES MY SISTER MY DAUGHTER MY SISTER MY DAUGHTER MY SISTER
Faye Dunaway in Chinatown

It was at that point I turned to my date and said "Uh-oh."

re: #164 Mich-again

It's just another example of MSM bias when they don't take the Dems to task for their empty rhetoric. A checklist of Obama's Iranian preconditions next to the Bush Administration conditions would be amusing.

it sure was a good thing G.W.Bush didn't talk about someone with a racist spiritual leader, a spouse who hates the country she lives in,
friends who have put bombs in police stations with regret they didn't do more and uses verbs as nouns a whole lot. We wouldn't have ANY idea who that doofus was.

re: #165 cincinnati_kid37

LOL! love that picture.

re: #121 Killian Bundy

U.S. soldier uses Quran for target practice; military apologizes

/a Bible would have been okay though

On the one hand who gives a flying f.....? On the other, how stupid can a soldier actually be?

Young Barry seems just a wee bit paranoid, no?

re: #171 kansas

Hopefully this thread isn't dead dead yet.

This is one I'm going to side with the discipline on. We are in that country trying to convince the local population that we are not there for conquest, but to free them. This is a poke in the eye of more than just the jihadis. We don't need to be deliberately alienating the local people in places where they are supportive of us.

Now, OTOH, we shouldn't be hamstringing our soldiers from being able to share their faith (without coercion) with the native population either. Political correctness in that direction is just plain wrong

As candidates get worse, it seems we do need longer campaigns; there is more dirt to discover.

Ah well, here is the image that Obama evokes in my mind:

Ye olde Obama of yore

Look, I don't know about you all, but I think Obama is a tad bit defensive on this subject.This an all out offensive by the dhimmis, and it makes me wonder what is really going on here. Hillary is in the most desperate place in her potential Dhimmi place as candidate, right now, and instead of blasting Obama, she blasts Mc Cain as being George Bush ? It looks like the dhimmis are going to run on the McCain is GW II.I'm overly concerned about the MSM and their complete and utter abandonment of any bit of supposed " neutrality". I have never in my 59 years seen the media so pro one candidate. Obama was even called one of the 25 most "fit" men in America. Hello, he is a type A personality and a life long smoker, untill it was necessary to "quit." It is scary times indeed for us, and especially for McCain if he doesn't wake up and start attacking.

No mention was made of them, except by themselves.

A guilty conscience is a terrible thing to waste.

Or, as the Bard said:

Methinks they doth protest too much.

PBS News Hour on Friday said that a White House source confirmed the remarks were about Obama. This appears to be an out and out lie. I wish the executive would pull the plug on these left wing freeloaders.

I'll repeat:

Obama's father abandoned him at age two. He feels a constant need to reach out to distant, powerful men and seek resolution. He takes generally directed criticism very personally. He has real unresolved issues. He has internalized these feelings and believes that his fairly privileged background is somehow similar to the American black experience, and even worse, the plight of the Palestinians. He is the product of a Kenyan muslim alcoholic polygamous father and an American ex-pat hippie mom, raised first by his muslim step-father in Indonesia, then by his white grandparents where he was a prep school stoner in Hawaii. He finally got in touch with his blackness at radical Occidental College, and then in Chicago at the feet of his new father-figure Reverand Wright. He needs years of psychotherapy, not the Presidency.

If the MSM wants to know what the American public thinks of this issue, they should cover the results of the Kentucky Democrat Primary. Of course, these results will probably be preempted by a last minute lead in on the 6:30 network net - something like "Ron Reagan comes out for Obama".

At least McCain seems to be getting over the fact that Obama is a fellow US Senator and all that that high office implies.

but because there was substance to a lot of their allegations. When you whine and complain about “unfair remarks,” but those remarks contain more than a grain of truth, it’s obvious to a lot of people—even to supporters. And whining doesn’t generally play well in the US.

The Obama camp is playing purely reactive politics, and in this case it’s over-reactive politics. I don’t think the American public is buying it,

+1

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The dems are fighting over who W's comment where about. They all want the comments to be about themselves . It got so bad that Obama sucker punched Ted Kennedy . The whole story is, Ted was at his favorite Irish pub for happy hour bragging on how W's was talking about him going over to the Soviet Union in the 80s and back stabbing Reagan's foreign policy.  Well Obama got wind of this so he come up front  to the bar from the bowling alley, and said " It was about me, it's always about me,You endorsed me for the primary, then couldn't even deliver Massachusetts." Michelle O. and Hillary walked in just in time to see Barrack go upside Teddy's head with the little umbrella drink he had in his hand and Ted being of senior age can't take much of a punch so he tipped right over. Hillary just cackled a bit and ordered a shot and a beer chaser,Michelle said "He be OK just take him to the hospital, Give him a shot of vodka a have a  well endowed nurse flash him."

#98: John Kerry claimed 3 purple hearts, and was never treated medically with anything more than a band-aid. That from a medic who treated him..

For the record, the military physician who treated one of John Kerry's wounds stated for the record that when he pulled out the piece of "shrapnel" (metallic sliver) with a pair of tweezers from the surface of the skin of John's upper arm, it DIDN'T BLEED and thus didn't even require a band-aid.

That physician also noted that John Kerry became irate when he refused to sign paperwork handed to him by John Kerry which would've awarded a purple heart for that "wound".

So, John submitted the paperwork without the doctor's signature and through military bureaucratic incompetence ended up with the purple heart anyway! ... for a wound that the attending physician said didn't even bleed!

I was thinking President Bush maybe gave Israel the green light to bomb Iran. Talking isn't going to work guys and if the long legged mac daddy from Illinois wins he is going to side with Iran and Syria.

They better do it when W is in the white house.

mac daddy Obama

"Mac Daddy" or Mack Daddy, is a term used to describe a man with an unusual power over women, and is derived from the French and later Louisiana Creole patois term "maqereau", which means "pimp". Adding "daddy" makes it mean "top pimp". The '70's black-exploitation movie "The Mack", a dramatization of the life of a street pimp, furthered the popularity of the term in urban America

I read George Bush's speech at the Knesset. It was awesome. It was not directed at Barack Obama. It was directed at all who are naive enough to negotiate peace with thugs who have no intention of keeping up their side of the bargain.

Now, if Barack Obama is all hyper-sensitive about the speech, perhaps he should do some serious self-reflection as to why this speech hit such a nerve. He is an appeaser and that's what the problem is, I suspect.

re: #189 mjk

I read George Bush's speech at the Knesset. It was awesome. It was not directed at Barack Obama. It was directed at all who are naive enough to negotiate peace with thugs who have no intention of keeping up their side of the bargain.

Exactly.

As I said earlier, if it's about anyone it's about Jimmy Carter - not Obama. Bush was talking about creepniks who wanna hold chats with Hamas, which is Carter's emblem.

The thing is, why would Obama - by virtue of his friend's hissy fits - want to take ownership of that away from Carter?

The poor, victimised politician doesn't generate sympathy.

Perhaps Obama prefers to be known as the "appeasement guy" rather than the "friend of the racist, nutcase pastor". Not much progress there.

Perhaps he is just reinforcing his "untouchablility"

If I was on Obama's team, I'd try to have everyone keep quiet. All this outrage is acknowledging that Obama has advocated for a policy that can be spun as appeasement. Why acknowledge it? I think a "he can't possibly be talking about me" approach would be much more effective. Throwing Carter under the bus might even do Obama some good. Then Wright could have some company.

Three things I noticed about this latest moral indignation.

1. Obama appears to believe he has the nomination sown up, and he's moving onto the main event. He's using classic old school politics, tying the candidate to the incumbent, which why he's attacking Bush and McCain.

2. This is the new method of left's attack machine. They've been field testing this one for the last few years. Most notably the "phony soldier" smear against Rush. The goons at Media Matters and the DNC and where ever else, pour over every single word that anyone on the right says, find a few words that can be twisted like a pretzel, come up with talking points that are distributed to the democrat party leaders, who then hit the press conferences en masse to spout their righteous indignation. This is done as close as possible to the original news cycle, so no one's heard what the original statements were. Then sit back and let the biased media do their black magic. Eventually, interested people figure out what the truth is, but by then the damage is already done.

This leads to another interesting point: this stuff works on the base, not the independent voters. Does this mean democrats are worried about their base?

3. All this talk about change and a new, gentler, kinder type of politics, is pure bull. This is old school, dirty, rotten politics. So much for the messiah.

re: #38 damnyanqui

Well said, well said indeed!

When Dems say we won't be swift boated, they are really saying "we won't allow the truth to see the light of day". I work with a Swift Boat vet who was a member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. He served with John Kerry and said that he wouldn't normally have participated in SBVFT until he heard John Kerry lie about his service. He isn't even a Republican, he is a man who didn't want Kerry to get away with lying to the American people.

Kerry got caught red handed lying to the American people. What cost him the election in the end was the fake CBS memos where a major TV network tried to fraudulently swing an election because they hate Bush.

Even though Kerry lied, I still appreciate the fact that he put himself in harms way. I didn't vote for him because I am a Republican and thought he would make a lousy president.