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Daily Kos Joe Lieberman Two-Minute Hate

Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:48:27 am PDT

Joe Lieberman is one of the few remaining anti-appeasement Democrats, so naturally Daily Kos front page writer “Hunter” is spewing venom at him: Daily Kos: Lieberman Goes The Full Zell.

I have to hand it to Joe Lieberman — seldom has a man been willing to so publicly void his intellectual bowels in newsprint or to such impressive effect.

This classy opening line is followed, in the usual Daily Kos style, by a rambling 2000-word rant full of childish ad hominems, concluding with the only definition of “appeasement” they’re willing to recognize.

I can think of only one example of recent Democratic appeasement: the way Senator Reid and others have constantly appeased Joe Lieberman, in spite of Lieberman’s constant and increasingly rabid attempts to undermine his previous party. As has been amply demonstrated by Joe himself, appeasement does not work.

Remember that the Daily Kos writer who calls himself “Hunter” is the same person who posted a deliberately dishonest, laughably stupid defense of CBS’s fraudulent memos, pretending to be an expert and succeeding only in proving himself a complete fool. If you enjoy inadvertent comedy mixed with vitriolic hatred, his Rathergate post is a sort of classic in the genre.

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1 Kosh's Shadow  5/22/08 7:50:26 am reply quote

Why doesn't "Hunter" come right out and say he hates Lieberman because he's a Jew?

2 pegcity  5/22/08 7:50:29 am reply quote

I like Zell

3 Nevergiveup  5/22/08 7:51:05 am reply quote

MEMO TO JEWISH LIBERALS: This ain't your daddies party. Wise up!

4 Kosh's Shadow  5/22/08 7:52:46 am reply quote

A bit OT. One moonbat I work with is often seen reading the Daily Kos. I wish I could find out what his username is there and find out what he posts. He may or may not be one of the more rational, but it would give me more info on him. I'm afraid to ask, though.

5 taxfreekiller  5/22/08 7:54:00 am reply quote

Stay on the unSenate on the H-2B visas by the Crab Cake unSenator.

[Link: www.numbersusa.com...]

6 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/22/08 7:54:09 am reply quote

"Goes the whole Zell," eh? Gee. That kinda sorta makes me like Lieberman even more, because Zell Miller was still is awesome. He gave a keynote speech here in Salt Lake about a year and a half ago; not quite as fiery as the 2004 convention speech, but great nonetheless.

7 Globular Cluster  5/22/08 7:54:26 am reply quote

I wish fellow Jews would pay attention to the way Joe is being treated by the Democrats. Disgusting.

8 vxbush  5/22/08 7:55:37 am reply quote

You would think after "Hunter" made such a complete fool of himself back in 2004 that he would have crawled under a rock and hidden. Alas, it appears he does not realize his own ineptitude.

9 Endangered in MASS  5/22/08 7:55:41 am reply quote

re: #4 Kosh's Shadow

How well do you know the IT person?

10 taxfreekiller  5/22/08 7:55:42 am reply quote

Charles.

Just post Ted Kennedy's full vote record.

Do not comment yourself or allow comments.

Just the facts no more.

11 winston06  5/22/08 7:56:07 am reply quote

McCain/Lieberman 08? (dont hate me... I like Lieberman's foreign policy stance)

12 Iron Fist  5/22/08 7:56:07 am reply quote

I'm really looking forward to the Convention in August. All I can say is go Hillary, go! Never surrender!

13 savage_nation[deleted]  5/22/08 7:56:16 am
14 VegasRick  5/22/08 7:56:26 am reply quote

re: #5 taxfreekiller

Stay on the unSenate on the H-2B visas by the Crab Cake unSenator.

[Link:

15 Nevergiveup  5/22/08 7:57:55 am reply quote

re: #7 Globular Cluster

I wish fellow Jews would pay attention to the way Joe is being treated by the Democrats. Disgusting.

One of the problems is most typical liberal Jews are not necessarily any more informed than other ignorant US citizens. They actually do not know how shabbily Joe has and is being treated. That may seem unbelievable to all here, but trust me, it's true. When I try to educate them, they really have a hard time believing me. They still think the Dems are the party of Humphrey and Scoop Jackson.

16 taxfreekiller  5/22/08 7:58:02 am reply quote

Current Choice of the D's.

Big bold liar of the O'ccult.
Big liars wife who lies.

17 Sharmuta  5/22/08 7:58:12 am reply quote

I think "hunter" has issues.

18 Kosh's Shadow  5/22/08 7:58:13 am reply quote

re: #9 Endangered in MASS

How well do you know the IT person?

You mean find out what's actually going over the wire? Well enough, but I don't think he'd do anything that unethical. I might see if I can see his name on his computer sometime; my LGF name shows up clearly enough when I'm on LGF.

19 Maximu§  5/22/08 7:58:57 am reply quote

Charles, by reposting Daily Kos's poison....you may inadvertently be helping them. I think they want to see their message spread and we are helping them do so.

20 galloping granny  5/22/08 7:59:07 am reply quote

I must disagree with just one thing Charles - Joe Liebermann is no longer a Democrat. They very publicly threw him under the bus and he had the guts to come right back at them and keep his seat anyway as an Independent. And he is actively campaigning for McCain.

He may still caucus with them temporarily, but I think you're going to see that change too.

21 Dr. Shalit  5/22/08 7:59:33 am reply quote

re: #11 winston06

McCain/Lieberman 08? (dont hate me... I like Lieberman's foreign policy stance)

"winnie" -

All things considered, might not the idea of "ASSOCIATE JUSTICE JOSEPH LIEBERMAN" be a better one?

-S-

22 VegasRick  5/22/08 8:00:00 am reply quote

re: #18 Kosh's Shadow

You mean find out what's actually going over the wire? Well enough, but I don't think he'd do anything that unethical. I might see if I can see his name on his computer sometime; my LGF name shows up clearly enough when I'm on LGF.

Tell him you are thinking of blogging there and ask how you sign - up. He will show you everything.

23 galloping granny  5/22/08 8:00:10 am reply quote

re: #4 Kosh's Shadow

A bit OT. One moonbat I work with is often seen reading the Daily Kos. I wish I could find out what his username is there and find out what he posts. He may or may not be one of the more rational, but it would give me more info on him. I'm afraid to ask, though.

Why don't you just pretend you read Kos (you do after all - here) and ask him who he posts as?

24 jaunte  5/22/08 8:00:27 am reply quote

"Hunter" and those like him don't understand Salafism, Khomeinism, or Jihadism and the true believers' unwillingness to be appeased. He can throw ineffectual verbal tantrums 'til the cows come home, but they mean nothing.

"Here is a man unbalanced by the rage that can only come from a steady stream of human failures." Look in the mirror, "Hunter."

25 Sharmuta  5/22/08 8:00:29 am reply quote
Lieberman does not mention Carter; presumably, he was weak too

Was he intoxicated when he wrote this?

26 winston06  5/22/08 8:00:55 am reply quote

Joe Lieberman is a true American and a principled (opposition party member) Democrat.

27 galloping granny  5/22/08 8:01:03 am reply quote

re: #21 Dr. Shalit

"winnie" -

All things considered, might not the idea of "ASSOCIATE JUSTICE JOSEPH LIEBERMAN" be a better one?

-S-

Wouldn't ever get through the Congressional hearings.

28 JammieWearingFool  5/22/08 8:01:11 am reply quote

They'll just never get over Lieberman beating Ned Lament.

29 maddogg  5/22/08 8:01:15 am reply quote

Poor Hunter, like most leftists wimps, he suffers from testicle envy.

30 winston06  5/22/08 8:01:44 am reply quote

re: #21 Dr. Shalit

Hahahaha... You could be right. But again, I think Lieberman is an honest man. I wish him well!

31 galloping granny  5/22/08 8:02:16 am reply quote

re: #26 winston06

Joe Lieberman is a true American and a principled (opposition party member) Democrat.

See above. As of the last election Joe Liebermann is specifically NOT a Democrat and he kept his seat opposing the Democrat candidate, which was not him.

32 Sharmuta  5/22/08 8:02:31 am reply quote
Here is a man unbalanced by the rage that can only come from a steady stream of human failures.

"hunter" says this about the Senator, but I think it's called "projection".

33 Nevergiveup  5/22/08 8:02:35 am reply quote

re: #27 galloping granny

Wouldn't ever get through the Congressional hearings.

Actually he might. It just is not the best position for Lieberman from our point of view. Other then Foreign Policy, he is rather far to the left of most of us.

34 galloping granny  5/22/08 8:03:57 am reply quote

re: #33 Nevergiveup

Actually he might. It just is not the best position for Lieberman from our point of view. Other then Foreign Policy, he is rather far to the left of most of us.

Not with Congress in Democrat hands it won't. They will never again give him squat, since he refuses to support the Obama Messiah they have decreed.

35 maddogg  5/22/08 8:05:03 am reply quote

I like Zell, and I like Joe. Both real Americans.

36 Iron Fist  5/22/08 8:05:26 am reply quote

re: #20 galloping granny,

Lieberman is still a Liberal on all issues except the War. He is, really, the only member of the Loyal Opposition, the only member of the Opposition for whom politics stops at the water's edge.

The Disloyal Opposition, of course, are the rest of the Democrats. They are trying to lose the War because they think that will help them politically.

37 Dr. Shalit  5/22/08 8:05:27 am reply quote

re: #27 galloping granny

"gg" -

Unless you know of some skeleton in his closet I am unaware of, I will respectfully disagree. Suspect the hardcore Left would love him OUT of the Senate and could well go with the program as on most issues JOE would be a moderate to liberal justice.

-S-

38 sparrowlake  5/22/08 8:06:05 am reply quote

re: #11 winston06

McCain/Lieberman 08? (dont hate me... I like Lieberman's foreign policy stance)

What is this - Death Wish Part II?
Joe saved the country from the Goracle, and for that y'all should be eternally grateful.
(And yes, his ME policy is spot on.)
But that's as far as it should go - he would be an old albatross around McCain's wattled neck.

39 Kenneth  5/22/08 8:06:06 am reply quote

Well loppyd, I guess we didn't have to wait long!

Rant on pricks, rant on.

40 jcm  5/22/08 8:06:12 am reply quote

Morning all!

Lieberman is a decent guy, who actually has some principles. Which is why the likes of Hunter hate him. Power and agenda trump everything else.

41 lawhawk  5/22/08 8:06:17 am reply quote

re: #21 Dr. Shalit

"winnie" -

All things considered, might not the idea of "ASSOCIATE JUSTICE JOSEPH LIEBERMAN" be a better one?

-S-

No. Lieberman is still a liberal at heart, and it would run counter to everything McCain has been telling conservatives about his judicial philosophy. Lieberman would be an honorable Justice, but not one that conservatives would approve.

42 Psaturn  5/22/08 8:06:22 am reply quote

re: #7 Globular Cluster

I wish fellow Jews would pay attention to the way Joe is being treated by the Democrats. Disgusting.

I agree !

43 rawmuse  5/22/08 8:06:45 am reply quote

What a sorry state we find ourselves in. I am embarrassed to breathe the same air as these cretins.

44 taxfreekiller  5/22/08 8:06:59 am reply quote

Ya, Snow, for Al Gore's snow cones .

[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]

May 22, 2008 as the globe turns its back on Al Gore.

45 orbital  5/22/08 8:07:21 am reply quote

Did Hunter's "analysis" of the Rather's memo get broken down on LGF? If so, anyone have the link? I as unable to locate it through search.

46 Nevergiveup  5/22/08 8:08:21 am reply quote

re: #34 galloping granny

Not with Congress in Democrat hands it won't. They will never again give him squat, since he refuses to support the Obama Messiah they have decreed.

Well my point was that it would not be such a great idea from a conservative point of view to put him on the Supreme Court. Whether the Dems would not support him is an open question. They would be voting against someone with their point of view on most issues other then foreign policy. It certainly would prove they are all vindictive bastards with no regard for anything but politics. Would love to see that!

47 chinesearithmetic  5/22/08 8:08:55 am reply quote

By considering centrism to be collaboration with the enemy – not bin Laden, but Mr. Bush – activists have successfully pulled the Democratic Party further to the left than it has been at any point in the last 20 years.

That's why I left.

48 winston06  5/22/08 8:09:57 am reply quote

re: #35 maddogg

I agree

49 winston06  5/22/08 8:10:33 am reply quote

re: #41 lawhawk

I hear you

50 DesertSage  5/22/08 8:10:50 am reply quote

I've got one word for "Hunter" - Spitballs!

51 alegrias  5/22/08 8:10:57 am reply quote

re: #38 sparrowlake

* * *
Don't know what exactly you're saying but I disagree. Lieberman didn't sink Gore, Gore sunk Gore. Gore wouldn't let Clinton campaign for him, imagine that, when Clinton was still a "rock-star."

Gore stunk as a candidate, slept through Al Qaeda's eight years of attacks against the US, approved of Arafat sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom eight years while attacking Israel, and Al Gore took money from Buddhist monks at White House "coffee" fundraisers.

George Bush should have won by a wider margin than he did, had McCain not undercut Mr. Bush while supposedly campaigning for him (wink wink, nod nod).

52 winston06  5/22/08 8:11:11 am reply quote

Will Senator Lieberman address the GOP convention?

53 David Simon  5/22/08 8:12:14 am reply quote

re: #25 Sharmuta

Was he intoxicated when he wrote this?

I want to know what he was on when he wrote this:

In this, let me be clear, I believe Lieberman to be exposed as the intellectual equal of a worm-riddled, half-composted sack of shit, and am not sorry in the slightest for the comparison. For Lieberman to so willingly conflate any opposition to a war of occupation in Iraq to the appeasement of bin Laden -- essentially asserting as weak and cowardly all Americans who properly called out the ramifications of the Iraq fiasco for what they were, shows him to be a political charlatan, and a buffoon, and a McCarthyite hack besides.

It's tempting to imagine "Hunter" as an idealistic, angry college student who'll grow out of it when he has to get a job and raise a family. But I get the feeling he's a middle-aged hippie who's mired in terminal adolescence.

54 taxfreekiller  5/22/08 8:12:19 am reply quote

Please Master O'ccult humm a little looney tune for me.
Make it in the Key of C.
Make it free.
Something the msm can hummm along with and have no need of facts.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
in every pot.

55 Charles  5/22/08 8:12:54 am reply quote

re: #45 orbital

Did Hunter's "analysis" of the Rather's memo get broken down on LGF? If so, anyone have the link? I as unable to locate it through search.

There's nothing to break down. It's a pile of lies and stupidity. Not worth the effort.

57 bosforus  5/22/08 8:13:30 am reply quote

I think what I like most about Kos threads is when every other word in a sentence, even the most meaningless words, are links so that the reader understands every in-depth/sarcastic remark that is made. As if a 3,000 word diatribe isn't laborious enough to plow through.

58 Alouette  5/22/08 8:13:48 am reply quote

re: #8 vxbush

You would think after "Hunter" made such a complete fool of himself back in 2004 that he would have crawled under a rock and hidden. Alas, it appears he does not realize his own ineptitude.

I tried reading his "rebuttal" to RatherGate, it became obvious to me this idiot has never even seen, much less used, an IBM Selectric typewriter, that he just cobbled together various blurbs he harvested from Googling typeface history sites.

59 alegrias  5/22/08 8:13:54 am reply quote

re: #50 DesertSage

I've got one word for "Hunter" - Spitballs!

* * *
Zell Miller is and always will be, A US MARINE! Semper Fi, Zell Miller.

60 lawhawk  5/22/08 8:13:54 am reply quote

re: #52 winston06

I think that's a definite possibility, given the way that outcast Democrats like Zell have done so.

He too could claim that he didn't leave the party, but the party left him - or in Lieberman's case, kicked, suckerpunched, and did everything imaginable to get Lieberman out because he stuck to his principles on Iraq (and has shown himself to be right).

61 maddogg  5/22/08 8:14:31 am reply quote

re: #56 Ojoe

Ojoe, are you eating without authorization again?

62 ethanxxx  5/22/08 8:15:00 am reply quote

Ya'... Hunter is a Typical Liberal Progressive Prick. I found this story at Front Page Mag by Ben Johnson, that illustrates just how mean spirited and hateful these worthless children can be. It compares the respectful sympathy conveyed by the right towards the Ted Kennedy story, to the vile and rabid reactions by the Left towards the news of the passing of people like Charlton Heston and the great Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Kennedy's Illness and the Left's

If Thy Left wing Offends Thee...

63 Endangered in MASS  5/22/08 8:17:17 am reply quote

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

That's a festering sore with them for sure.

64 Kosh's Shadow  5/22/08 8:17:36 am reply quote

re: #23 galloping granny

Why don't you just pretend you read Kos (you do after all - here) and ask him who he posts as?

And then, I can put appropriate protection on my computer, and on my mind, and delve into the depths, to see what he actually posts.

However, he knows I don't like Obama, so I don't know if he'll fall for it. I try not to say too much, but once, he came into a meeting all pleased that Obama won over Hillary "like some crud on a shoe" or something like that, and then said that the Rev. Wright stuff didn't matter.
I said something about having attended services for 20 years, and that no one does that if they don't agree at least in part. Somewhat more emphatically than I just did here.

65 amphibian  5/22/08 8:18:03 am reply quote
As usual, the face of Emmanuel Goldstein, the Enemy of the People, had
flashed on to the screen. There were hisses here and there among the
audience. The little sandy-haired woman gave a squeak of mingled fear and
disgust. Goldstein was the renegade and backslider who once, long ago
(how long ago, nobody quite remembered), had been one of the leading
figures of the Party, almost on a level with Big Brother himself, and
then had engaged in counter-revolutionary activities, had been condemned
to death, and had mysteriously escaped and disappeared.

"Two Minute Hate". I think you've pretty much pegged it, Charles.

66 firebreather  5/22/08 8:20:49 am reply quote

The Left sees everything through the looking glass, and reality becomes grotesquely distorted no matter the angle of the viewer.

To the Leftist, there is racism because clouds are white.

To the Leftist, there is sexism because men don't have ovaries.

To the Leftist, the victim is the real terrorist, and the terrorist is really the victim.

To the Leftist, a policeman who rushes to the scene of the crime is (therefore) the cause of the crime.

In the warped view of the Leftist, everything is reflexively turned inside-out.

The good news for Leftists is that they're always welcome to write for the NY Times or teach in the sociology dept at Harvard.

67 galloping granny  5/22/08 8:20:51 am reply quote

re: #64 Kosh's Shadow

And then, I can put appropriate protection on my computer, and on my mind, and delve into the depths, to see what he actually posts.

However, he knows I don't like Obama, so I don't know if he'll fall for it. I try not to say too much, but once, he came into a meeting all pleased that Obama won over Hillary "like some crud on a shoe" or something like that, and then said that the Rev. Wright stuff didn't matter.
I said something about having attended services for 20 years, and that no one does that if they don't agree at least in part. Somewhat more emphatically than I just did here.

Key logger? :)

68 Widow'smight  5/22/08 8:22:58 am reply quote

Funny thing is about these folks on Kos. Other than National Security, there probably isn't a position Senator Lieberman has that differs from theirs. Maybe it's that Senator Lieberman can disagree with Conservatives without frothing at the mouth that disturbs them.

69 Dad O' Blondes  5/22/08 8:25:00 am reply quote

Sen. Lieberman's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal yesterday was a masterpiece.

An exerpt from "Democrats and Our Enemies":

"A great Democratic Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, once warned "no people in history have ever survived, who thought they could protect their freedom by making themselves inoffensive to their enemies." This is a lesson that today's Democratic Party needs to relearn."

.

70 Sharmuta  5/22/08 8:26:29 am reply quote

re: #53 David Simon

That part was particularly disgusting, and hate-filled. Here you have some angry loser posting garbage on a well read "progressive" site, the comments are filled with all sorts of additional nastiness, and this is supposed to be the new face of the democratic party? Kind of scary.

71 sparrowlake  5/22/08 8:31:06 am reply quote

re: #51 alegrias

McCain is very old.
Lieberman is very old.
They would make a very old ticket - a bad idea.
And yes, I am saying that having a Jewish running mate cost Gore the election.

72 gman  5/22/08 8:32:26 am reply quote

Beware of 2000- word Interweb rants.

73 razorbacker  5/22/08 8:33:12 am reply quote

I've been living in a post-political world these past few days, and I have to say that it has been refreshing.

I'd gone to Arkansas Squared to help an old friend raise his hunting/fishing cabin another 18 inches in order to avoid future flood waters. After wards, we spend a couple of lazy days fishing and generally goofing off.

April 10, a tornado struck the southern edge of Stuttgart. It caused some property damage, but the warning sirens did their job and there were amazingly few injuries. The aftermath was inspiring. Those Bitter Clingers loaded up their gas guzzling pickups with tools, fired up the chainsaws, and started cleaning up their and their neighbor's properties.

Not one person bothered to check political affiliation. Racial tensions dropped; the questions asked were "What do you need?" not "Who are you?" Baptists, Lutherans, Church of Christers, Jehovah's Witnesses rallied to the common cause with no thought of the probable afterlife destination of the person needing help.

Crying shame that it takes something like this to eliminate the backbiting hatefests illustrated by such as these Kossacks. For all I know, there may well have been Daily Kos types clearing rubble right along with the Bitter Clingers. Note that I said "may have been."

74 maddogg  5/22/08 8:34:05 am reply quote

re: #71 sparrowlake

McCain is very old.
Lieberman is very old.
They would make a very old ticket - a bad idea.
And yes, I am saying that having a Jewish running mate cost Gore the election.

I disagree. Gore's gun control stance cost him the election.

75 jegjr  5/22/08 8:34:05 am reply quote

My guess is - Hunter's also the guy who PROVED 911 to be an inside job with his BIC lighter, some chicken wire, and a brick.

76 cod_is_great  5/22/08 8:38:07 am reply quote

The political intolerance of liberals will ensure that there will be a steady flow of Democrats to speak at Republican national conventions far into the future.

77 Ojoe  5/22/08 8:43:16 am reply quote

re: #61 maddogg

Two bean and cheese burritos for breakfast.

(greenhouse gasses)

BURP

78 jorline  5/22/08 8:43:59 am reply quote

re: #73 razorbacker

I've been living in a post-political world these past few days, and I have to say that it has been refreshing.

I'd gone to Arkansas Squared to help an old friend raise his hunting/fishing cabin another 18 inches in order to avoid future flood waters. After wards, we spend a couple of lazy days fishing and generally goofing off.

April 10, a tornado struck the southern edge of Stuttgart. It caused some property damage, but the warning sirens did their job and there were amazingly few injuries. The aftermath was inspiring. Those Bitter Clingers loaded up their gas guzzling pickups with tools, fired up the chainsaws, and started cleaning up their and their neighbor's properties.

Not one person bothered to check political affiliation. Racial tensions dropped; the questions asked were "What do you need?" not "Who are you?" Baptists, Lutherans, Church of Christers, Jehovah's Witnesses rallied to the common cause with no thought of the probable afterlife destination of the person needing help.

Crying shame that it takes something like this to eliminate the backbiting hatefests illustrated by such as these Kossacks. For all I know, there may well have been Daily Kos types clearing rubble right along with the Bitter Clingers. Note that I said "may have been."

Sadly reminiscent of 9/11. It a shame that a catastrophe has to happen to bring out the American in everyone.

79 Ojoe  5/22/08 8:46:03 am reply quote

re: #71 sparrowlake

Age in some instances brings wisdom

Youth brings enthusiasm

Wisdom helps bring happiness

Enthusiasm often leads to disaster

80 sparrowlake  5/22/08 8:53:43 am reply quote

re: #79 Ojoe

Age in some instances brings wisdom
Youth brings enthusiasm
Wisdom helps bring happiness
Enthusiasm often leads to disaster

LOL. Truer words.....
But let's call a spade a spade - they would make a pretty decrepit-looking pair. Unfortunately television image is too important to ignore.
And McCain is enough of a lib already, he doesn't need Lieberman to project him even farther to the left.

81 buzzsawmonkey  5/22/08 8:56:40 am reply quote

re: #4 Kosh's Shadow

A bit OT. One moonbat I work with is often seen reading the Daily Kos. I wish I could find out what his username is there and find out what he posts. He may or may not be one of the more rational, but it would give me more info on him. I'm afraid to ask, though.

If you are friendly with that person, and he is not familiar with your own views, you could casually mention as you lope by his workstation, "Oh, Daily Kos, eh? I've heard of it/seen it a few times. You read it a lot? What's it like?" Upon receiving an enthusiastic response about the marvels of the Kos site, you can answer, "So do you post there too, or just read it? What's your nic? I might check out the site, and I think it would be cool to know someone who was posting there."

It is astonishing what information can be loosened up with a little soft soap.

82 Ward Cleaver  5/22/08 8:57:05 am reply quote

Screw you, Hunter.

83 Kosh's Shadow  5/22/08 9:05:14 am reply quote

re: #68 Widow'smight

Funny thing is about these folks on Kos. Other than National Security, there probably isn't a position Senator Lieberman has that differs from theirs. Maybe it's that Senator Lieberman can disagree with Conservatives without frothing at the mouth that disturbs them.

Or that they really don't want national security; they think the Euroweenies and the UN have it right.
They have no principles, so nothing wort fighting for.
Thus they hate anyone who does.

84 Gat New York  5/22/08 9:08:14 am reply quote

re: #1 Kosh's Shadow

Why doesn't "Hunter" come right out and say he hates Lieberman because he's a Jew?
They come as close to it as they can. It is evident that the haven for today's growing anti-semitism is this Daily Kos site. It's leader Markos whatever-his-name-is has called anti-Jews "regular people" on Meet The Press. The rest of his band of Kool-Aid drinking nuts simply follow his lead.

Lieberman seems to be more than just politics with Markos - it seems personal and therefore his little henchmen go over the limit in desecrating a very good and honorable man.

85 Kosh's Shadow  5/22/08 9:09:58 am reply quote

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

If you are friendly with that person, and he is not familiar with your own views, you could casually mention as you lope by his workstation, "Oh, Daily Kos, eh? I've heard of it/seen it a few times. You read it a lot? What's it like?" Upon receiving an enthusiastic response about the marvels of the Kos site, you can answer, "So do you post there too, or just read it? What's your nic? I might check out the site, and I think it would be cool to know someone who was posting there."

It is astonishing what information can be loosened up with a little soft soap.

I slipped up once, so he might be suspicious. (See earlier post). And I'm obviously Jewish, so unless he thinks I'm one of those Naturei Karta (?) types, he'll be even more suspicious.

86 David Simon  5/22/08 9:10:36 am reply quote

re: #82 Ward Cleaver

Screw you, Hunter.

Yes, in this case, brevity trumps verbosity. +1 for that.

87 Widow'smight  5/22/08 9:13:29 am reply quote

re: #83 Kosh's Shadow

They're like little kids on the Bus, they're always going to be screaming at the Bus Driver, but don't have enough guts to actually take their driving test. That would require being responsible for someone else besides themselves.

I remember the VP debates in 2000 between Cheney and Lieberman, and always remember the respect they showed for each other. There was no bringing up VP Cheney's daughter to try to beat him over the head with, aka the Breck Girl. I disagree with most of Senator Lieberman's positions, but he's a good man.

I doubt those spongebobs at Kos would be able to say the same about any conservative, especially me.

88 buzzsawmonkey  5/22/08 9:18:35 am reply quote

re: #85 Kosh's Shadow

I slipped up once, so he might be suspicious. (See earlier post). And I'm obviously Jewish, so unless he thinks I'm one of those Naturei Karta (?) types, he'll be even more suspicious.

An open and bland countenance, properly maintained, can allay all suspicion. As for your being Jewish, remember that the Kos types aren't antisemitic--why, we have their word on that.

In other words, they do not believe themselves to be antisemites, Jew-haters, etc.--so there is no reason for them to shamefacedly conceal themselves before you. There are even, it has appeared in the past, people who self-identify as Jews who post on Kos with vocal approval of the hateful drivel that appears there. So the mere fact of your being identifiably Jewish does not necessarily bar you from the overtures I described above.

89 RickZ  5/22/08 9:20:14 am reply quote

Daily Kos: Lieberman Goes The Full Zell

This is supposed to be a bad thing, going the full Zell?

re: #58 Alouette

I tried reading his "rebuttal" to RatherGate, it became obvious to me this idiot has never even seen, much less used, an IBM Selectric typewriter, that he just cobbled together various blurbs he harvested from Googling typeface history sites.

Sorta like Obama's policy points are "cobbled together ... blurbs he harvested from Googling" 'presidential'.

90 brakes  5/22/08 9:35:12 am reply quote
intellectual bowels


No wonder it's hard to understand the dems. We use our heads to think.

91 maddogg  5/22/08 9:45:25 am reply quote

re: #85 Kosh's Shadow

You might try the maddogg method of inquiry....


" Don't tell me your a fucking stupid assed Kos Kid! Cripes, I thought you had a brain! Whats your nic, before I kick your scrawny wimp ass?"

Often works for me :)

92 justiceforall  5/22/08 9:47:00 am reply quote

Charles writes, "Joe Lieberman is one of the few remaining anti-appeasement Democrats, so naturally Daily Kos front page writer 'Hunter' is spewing venom at him."

I am shocked, shocked to find that a partisan political blogger is "spewing venom" at an elected official (former or active) and/or political candidate with whom he/she disagrees.

93 Spiny Norman  5/22/08 10:03:26 am reply quote

re: #89 RickZ

Daily Kos: Lieberman Goes The Full Zell

This is supposed to be a bad thing, going the full Zell?

The Full Zell. A badge of honor, IMHO. A Democrat who can call a spade a spade and not wet himself worrying that even the figure of speach itself might be politically incorrect.

Sorta like Obama's policy points are "cobbled together ... blurbs he harvested from Googling" 'presidential'.

Just yesterday he was attempting to chide McCain for his claim that the economy made great strides during the Bush Administration by citing the kids he meets "trapped in the inner city... in classrooms without working computers".

Huh?!? Someone needs to remind the Obamessiah that local government bureaucrats' questionable spending priorities is not the yardstick we measure economic progress by.

Whadda maroon.

94 Orbit Rain  5/22/08 10:04:19 am reply quote

"Hunter" - a classic example of the childish attention-whores who inhabit Kos. Welcome to your fame Hunter, should last another 14 seconds.

95 bucephalas  5/22/08 10:11:17 am reply quote

I love the following quote:

There are another dozen things to mock about Lieberman's column -- deconstructing it would take chapters, not just paragraphs -- but in the end Lieberman's very simplistic and fiction-touting assertions boil down to his own simplistic and fiction-touting notions of foreign policy.

As opposed to Obama's incredibly sophisticated, nuanced, reality based foreign policy assertions...

96 nyc redneck  5/22/08 10:26:22 am reply quote

i really like and admire lieberman. he is a smart man who gets the gist of what we are facing w/ the jihadis.
and he stood tall when the libs (his own party) tried to oust him. the dems are destroying their credibility by forcing out a good man like lieberman. more people like him will be leaving and the democrat party will be a foul cesspool of kooks, commies, and scum on the take. good luck w/ that.

97 Kulhwch  5/22/08 10:34:24 am reply quote
I have to hand it to Joe Lieberman — seldom has a man been willing to so publicly void his intellectual bowels in newsprint or to such impressive effect.

Wow, it really takes one to know one, doesn't it?  Except in the case of 'Hunter', it's a prolapsed intellectual bowel if ever I saw one.

}:)     [Wonder what his mom is making him for dinner tonight? Will she bring it down to the basement or does he get to eat on a tv tray in front of the televison?]

98 Spiny Norman  5/22/08 11:34:16 am reply quote

re: #97 Kulhwch

Wow, it really takes one to know one, doesn't it?  Except in the case of 'Hunter', it's a

99 TalkinKamel  5/22/08 11:39:45 am reply quote

re: #92 justiceforall

Golly, Justice, I'm shocked that you never deigned to reply to some very pointed comments on the Urban Outfitters thread the other day, about Iserael.

Care to reply now? Or did you just show up to snark some little snarkisms, at those with whom you disagree?

100 yochanan  5/22/08 12:54:09 pm reply quote

Sen Joe Lieberman is a moderate in the Sen Scoop Jackson tradition very strong on national defence, the war on islmo fascism and very strong support for Israel, I would love to see a new Centerist party esp if it was very strong on national defence, the war on islmo fascism and support for Israel. A party that hopefully understand the effects of econ.

101 yochanan  5/22/08 12:55:58 pm reply quote

re: #99 TalkinKamel

Golly, Justice, I'm shocked that you never deigned to reply to some very pointed comments on the Urban Outfitters thread the other day, about Iserael.

Care to reply now? Or did you just show up to snark some little snarkisms, at those with whom you disagree?

DON'T FEED THE TROLL

102 Catttt  5/22/08 3:07:38 pm reply quote

I took a trip down memory lane on the loonytunes Tang Hunter Express. At the time of all that, I was happy to find LGF, as I worked for the feds in the 70s and like many others knew the memos were bogus. Hunter's tang piec was a huge, complex series of assumptions combined with grasping at straws.

This latest Hunter piece is more typical of now. Tons of scatology, epithets, and hatred for anyone who doesn't toe the line, combined with Politburo-like pronouncements to axe this or that commisar Dem that they don't like.

103 gkong3  5/22/08 5:49:36 pm reply quote