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UC Irvine Muslim Student Union Posts Dozens of Videos at YouTube

Sat, May 31, 2008 at 9:26:21 am PDT

The Muslim Student Union at UC Irvine has posted more than 80 videos of their events at YouTube: YouTube - Cfalcon7688’s Videos.

Anti-Americanism, antisemitism, Holocaust denial, open advocacy of armed insurrection in the US, support for terrorist groups, Rachel Corrie’s parents, they’re all here. What’s happening at UC Irvine is simply nauseating.

(Hat tip: Jonathan Constantine.)

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1 JammieWearingFool  5/31/08 9:27:47 am reply quote 1

Any friends of Obama on them?

2 least  5/31/08 9:29:32 am reply quote 0

And of course there will be an uproar @ You tube.
not

3 Lively  5/31/08 9:30:33 am reply quote 1

Are they able to book a speaker at the Trinity Church? I hear there's a large welcoming crowd there.

4 kynna  5/31/08 9:31:16 am reply quote 13

I had a friend in college in the 80's who wrote a letter to the school paper in protest to minority groups getting more money from the University for their clubs than any other groups. A lot more money.

He got death threats.

This kind of thing has gone from the prank phone call to the mainstream. Hate is a campus activity as long as you're hating the 'right groups.'

Even with documentation, it's ignored. Because of the thin-skinned, hysterical rhetoric of those in charge of the haters, nobody wants to take them on. As a result they eat up ground until the rest of us have nowhere to stand.

5 mean Gene  5/31/08 9:31:36 am reply quote 1

Taken uncut but with no sound and put up again with a voice-over, these could be powerful ammunition against them.

6 wrenchwench  5/31/08 9:31:41 am reply quote 4

Background on MSU, an article from 2004.

7 victor_yugo  5/31/08 9:31:42 am reply quote 1

Nauseating, yes.

Surprising? Not in the least.

8 realwest  5/31/08 9:33:11 am reply quote -1

re: #7 victor_yugo

Nauseating, yes.

Surprising? Not in the least.


Illegal, No.

9 zombie  5/31/08 9:33:37 am reply quote 9

UC Irvine used to be famous for being the most boring, irrelevant, out-of-the-loop campus in the entire UC system, where nothing ever happened. Everybody wants to get admitted to UCLA or Berkeley, and if not, then Santa Barbara. Santa Cruz if you're a hippie. Davis if you want to be a veterinarian.

But Irvine? That was like exile to Siberia.

Bizarre how it has turned into the hotspot for radicalism.

10 jcm  5/31/08 9:33:49 am reply quote 0

Now if any UCI equipment or infrastructure was used, UCI could take action.


*crickets*

11 AndyMacOP  5/31/08 9:34:42 am reply quote 1

The American Jihad has a home base.

12 pat  5/31/08 9:34:54 am reply quote 1

Do college students have classes anymore?

13 Dolphin  5/31/08 9:35:04 am reply quote 1

re: #8 realwest

Freedom of speech. The only thing we can do is make our voices heard above theirs.

14 Mich-again  5/31/08 9:35:23 am reply quote 0

Someday YouTube will deplete the Earth of all the gigabyte deposits and it will be because they allowed so much of this redundant blubbering crapola.

15 Cowardkerry  5/31/08 9:35:45 am reply quote -1

MMMMM I'm hung over and want pancakes now. Look out cracker barrell, here I come.

16 realwest  5/31/08 9:36:13 am reply quote 2

re: #9 zombie Hi zombie!

"But Irvine? That was like exile to Siberia.

Bizarre how it has turned into the hotspot for radicalism."

Maybe that explains how the Muslim Students have been getting away with this - out of sight, out of mind (clearly out of their minds!)?

17 Wumpus Hunter  5/31/08 9:36:22 am reply quote 1

Your tax dollars at work...

18 jcm  5/31/08 9:37:20 am reply quote 0

re: #12 pat

Do college students have classes anymore?

Introduction to Advanced Chompskyitus.
Further readings of Ward Churchill.
With weekly meetings in the Che Chapel.

19 Mich-again  5/31/08 9:37:40 am reply quote 1

re: #17 Wumpus Hunter

Your tax dollars at work...

Exactly. You always get more of whatever you subsidize and as long as taxpayers pay for crap like this, we should expect more and more of it.

20 Luigi  5/31/08 9:37:56 am reply quote 0

I wonder how many of them are Republicans.

21 Shug  5/31/08 9:38:47 am reply quote 1

Anti-Americanism, antisemitism, Holocaust denial, open advocacy of armed insurrection in the US, support for terrorist groups, Rachel Corrie’s parents, they’re all here.

Allah and moveon.org have a lot in common

22 jcm  5/31/08 9:39:18 am reply quote 0

re: #21 Shug

Anti-Americanism, antisemitism, Holocaust denial, open advocacy of armed insurrection in the US, support for terrorist groups, Rachel Corrie’s parents, they’re all here.

Allah and moveon.org have a lot in common

Stan's cast of characters.

23 Sharmuta  5/31/08 9:39:22 am reply quote 8

Maybe it's time to try out the Smith Act again:

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof--

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

24 hermeneutics  5/31/08 9:41:15 am reply quote 1

Why Irvine? Are the rest of the UC schools the same or is Irvine particularly hateful and antisemitic?

25 alegrias  5/31/08 9:41:57 am reply quote 6

re: #9 zombie

UC Irvine used to be famous for being the most boring, irrelevant, out-of-the-loop campus in the entire UC system, where nothing ever happened. Everybody wants to get admitted to UCLA or Berkeley, and if not, then Santa Barbara. Santa Cruz if you're a hippie. Davis if you want to be a veterinarian.

But Irvine? That was like exile to Siberia.

Bizarre how it has turned into the hotspot for radicalism.

* * *
Dear Zombie,

Some of this stuff has been happening and hiding in plain view, like the keffiyeh terrorist gear (since 1967!), so Americans busy polishing their granite kitchen counters & opining on fine olive oil & California vintages or playing virtual video games, won't wake up and smell the Keffiyeh!

Here in Northern Virginia, how did this go from Republican conservative country to having the terrorists next door? (Yes, all three boys next door to my folks' went to the Islamic Saudi Academy, hated women, said antisemitic things they learned in school as children, and their mother was a blue eyed blond American woman from Colorado!

It's happened in all our communities while we focused inwards & retreated from history thanks to Jimmy Carter's cowardice and navel gazing and guilt-inducing self hatred.

26 winston06  5/31/08 9:42:22 am reply quote 1

Irvine, CALIF, is full of AQs

27 savage_nation[deleted]  5/31/08 9:42:25 am 0
28 Mich-again  5/31/08 9:42:29 am reply quote 2

The story is spreading and will be at critical mass by the Sunday Morning pundit shows. Vieira Punts on Possible McClellan-Soros Connection
By Mark Finkelstein

Put it all together, and there's every reason to wonder whether Soros isn't behind McClellan's manifesto. But given the golden opportunity to pursue the matter, Meredith chose to move on. Here's the relevant exchange, which came during the second half-hour of this morning's Today.... VIEIRA: But what about this charge that some people have that you're just trying to make a buck?

MCCLELLAN: Well, I don't think they're familiar with PublicAffairs, the publisher that I worked with, that's not the way they operate. I don't think they're familiar with why I wrote this book. You know, I have a higher loyalty than my loyalty, necessarily, to my past work. That's a loyalty to the truth, and it’s a loyalty to the values I was raised on.

So McClellan served up the issue to Vieira on a silver platter. He mentions PublicAffairs, and even says people aren't familiar with it or the way it operates. Fine! Why not tell us, Scott? But Meredith never asked him to do so. A failure of NBC staff to have provided Vieira with the Soros-related facts, or Meredith's reluctance to undermine the impact of McClellan's allegations? We don't know, but hopefully someone will get to the bottom of the Soros connection soon. Don't count on Keith Olbermann getting into it, though, when McClellan appears this evening on Countdown.

29 Mich-again  5/31/08 9:43:00 am reply quote 0

oops wrong thread. I hate when I do that.

30 realwest  5/31/08 9:43:11 am reply quote 0

re: #25 alegrias "....from Colorado!"
Well that explains it all! LOL!

31 zombie  5/31/08 9:43:47 am reply quote 2

re: #16 realwest

Yes, though this has given me a bit of an idea -- an insight into why Irvine of all places.

Not to be an intellectual elitist or anything, just telling the facts:

If you're a top-flight admittee to the UC system, you get your choice of campuses to attend. Most choose UCLA or Berkeley for the prestige. The second-tier students might choose Santa Barbara, San Diego, and so on down the list.

Only those students who barely squeaked in to the UC system end up getting the dregs of the campuses, at Irvine.

So the Muslim students who are truly outstanding end up at the other campuses, where (for the most part) they just study for their engineering degrees and whatnot.

It's the ones who are disgruntled, and who feel slighted, and who aren't quite as sharp that end up at Irvine. So a culture of resentment has developed, and they've built that resentment into a political movement.

/It's an interesting theory, at least.

32 realwest  5/31/08 9:44:55 am reply quote 0

re: #23 Sharmuta Do you know if it's been used at all - or at least after WWII?

33 hermeneutics  5/31/08 9:45:05 am reply quote 0

re: #31 zombie

Of course, that doesn't explain the same mentality in the Ivy institutions, Zombie.

34 victor_yugo  5/31/08 9:45:19 am reply quote 3

re: #8 realwest

Illegal, No.

United States Constitution, III 3:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

35 realwest  5/31/08 9:46:12 am reply quote 0

re: #34 victor_yugo
"adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"
And those enemies are whom?

36 Sharmuta  5/31/08 9:47:37 am reply quote 0

re: #32 realwest

Here's the wiki information on it- looks like mid-50s. My previous research on it shows it is still on the books- if jihadis on America soil isn't cause enough to try this law again, I don't know what is.

37 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 9:47:46 am reply quote 0

Sorry to be off-topic, but I'm listening to the horsecrap from the DNC conference to determine whether or not the Florida and Michigan primary votes can count, and it's strictly a dog and pony show. Right now it's being asserted that Obama really had WAY more votes in Michigan (he had none) than was previously thought. This guy Brewer is saying "we advised" those who were for Obama and Edwards to vote uncommitted, and "exit polls" showed that 75% of the uncommitted vote was for Obama, therefore they should once again shaft the Hill and annoint the Obamamessiah, as obviously directed by the mad knightess of capitol hill, Nancy "butt-face" Pelosi.

I love the way the dems are ripping their party to shreds right now. The glorious grand coalition party is turning out to be a road to ultimate ruin.

Nobody can blame that on us.

38 hermeneutics  5/31/08 9:48:11 am reply quote 0

Part of the increased presence of Muslims on US campuses is due to the funding for professors in Islamic studies by the government.

Just recently, the head of a religious studies deparment asked me if I wanted to be considered for a fully-tenured chair of Islamic studies ... I couldn't believe it.

39 newsjunkie_ky  5/31/08 9:48:38 am reply quote 0

re: #34 victor_yugo

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The dems and aclu will argue and argue and 'Aid and Comfort' will no longer be defined as it was originally intended.

40 zombie  5/31/08 9:48:58 am reply quote 1

re: #33 hermeneutics

Of course, that doesn't explain the same mentality in the Ivy institutions, Zombie.

At the Ivy league institutions the anti-Americanism and anti-Israel bias seems to be derived from "ivory tower communism," an effete dabbling in revolution as an intellectual exercise (and to get chicks).

At Irvine, in contrast, it's like the "Arab street": blind hatred, simmering jealousy, a revolution of the underclass.

41 victor_yugo  5/31/08 9:50:02 am reply quote 2

re: #35 realwest

"adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort"
And those enemies are whom?

al-Qaeda.

Hamas.

Hiz'b'Ullah.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Azzam al-Amriki.

Hassan Nasrallah.

Need I go on?

42 alegrias  5/31/08 9:50:13 am reply quote 0

re: #30 realwest

"....from Colorado!"
Well that explains it all! LOL!

* * *
Realwest, I love you Sir, but there's plenty of Americans from all over living here in Metropolitan Washington, DC, or Michigan, or California or New York or Florida or Georgia or Tennesee where all these communities of people who promote their inner & outer jihad are well rooted.

Consider Catholic Priest Pfleger hating in plain sight for 20 years in Chicago and no one outed that pervert. Where were fellow Catholics, fellow priests, fellow persons of faith while this malignant minister spouted sick stuff?

We know this happens all around us in schools, churches, workplaces and we're only noticing now? That's just not right so many are complacent about horrific ideas floating all around us.

43 NoSubmission  5/31/08 9:50:38 am reply quote 0

re: #26 winston06

Irvine, CALIF, is full of AQs


Hi Winston! What are 'AQs'?

44 realwest  5/31/08 9:51:07 am reply quote 0

re: #37 really grumpy big dog johnson Hey there grumpy! Why on earth are you listening to/watching those "proceedings"?

45 victor_yugo  5/31/08 9:51:43 am reply quote 0

re: #40 zombie

At the Ivy league institutions the anti-Americanism and anti-Israel bias seems to be derived from "ivory tower communism," an effete dabbling in revolution as an intellectual exercise (and to get chicks).

At Irvine, in contrast, it's like the "Arab street": blind hatred, simmering jealousy, a revolution of the underclass.

Small minds, not daring to stretch farther than their comfort zones will allow.

In both cases.

46 newsjunkie_ky  5/31/08 9:51:53 am reply quote 0

re: #37 really grumpy big dog johnson
They'll blame Bush. It's always his fault, ever since '00./

47 realwest  5/31/08 9:52:50 am reply quote 0

re: #41 victor_yugo No, but to invoke that part of the Constitution you'd need to have either an Act of War against them passed by Congress or something similar. That we are at war with SOME Muslims, doesn't mean we're at war with ALL Muslims or their friends.

48 hermeneutics  5/31/08 9:52:54 am reply quote 2

re: #40 zombie

With affirmative action admission policies and the underlying desire for cultural diversity on Ivy campuses, their "effete communism" is looking more like the "Arab street." Among the profs, it is "effete;" among students, more street.

49 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 9:52:55 am reply quote 0

re: #44 realwest

Hey there grumpy! Why on earth are you listening to/watching those "proceedings"?

It's a slow morning.

50 savage_nation[deleted]  5/31/08 9:53:01 am 0
51 victor_yugo  5/31/08 9:53:07 am reply quote 1

re: #46 newsjunkie_ky

They'll blame Bush. It's always his fault, ever since '00./

The Civil War was Bush's fault.

Why stop at double-aught?

52 jainphx  5/31/08 9:53:26 am reply quote 1

In order to bring some one to account for treasonous activities, you first have to find someone with a back bone, and the belief.

53 Sharmuta  5/31/08 9:53:34 am reply quote 0

Charge radical islamic groups with the Smith Act, and maybe sites like youtube would think twice about allowing them to post videos due to possible legal entanglements.

54 Wm T Sherman  5/31/08 9:53:54 am reply quote 0

re: #9 zombie

UC Irvine used to be famous for being the most boring, irrelevant, out-of-the-loop campus in the entire UC system, where nothing ever happened. Everybody wants to get admitted to UCLA or Berkeley, and if not, then Santa Barbara. Santa Cruz if you're a hippie. Davis if you want to be a veterinarian.

But Irvine? That was like exile to Siberia.

Bizarre how it has turned into the hotspot for radicalism.

The Detroit of the UC system. Mold gets a foothold on the damaged plants first.

55 Roentgen  5/31/08 9:54:14 am reply quote 0

Kaffiyeh update:

While kaffiyeh is great for personal sanitation purposes, I think it may be clogging the plumbing, so I'll have to find another use for it. This is a shame, considering how I figured out a really neat way to get it wound around the TP holder.

56 MandyManners  5/31/08 9:54:31 am reply quote 0

re: #28 Mich-again

The story is spreading and will be at critical mass by the Sunday Morning pundit shows.

57 savage_nation[deleted]  5/31/08 9:54:52 am 0
58 alegrias  5/31/08 9:54:59 am reply quote 0

re: #40 zombie

At the Ivy league institutions the anti-Americanism and anti-Israel bias seems to be derived from "ivory tower communism," an effete dabbling in revolution as an intellectual exercise (and to get chicks).

At Irvine, in contrast, it's like the "Arab street": blind hatred, simmering jealousy, a revolution of the underclass.

* * *
Remember Sirhan Sirhan the "disgruntled" Palestinian living in California who murdered Robert F. Kennedy was this kind of anti-Semite, living in the USA.

John Kennedy was killed by a disgruntled dabler in Communism with a Soviet wife.

It's weird America doesn't hold disgruntled communists and anti-semites responsible for these two Kennedy deaths.

59 alegrias  5/31/08 9:55:28 am reply quote 0

re: #43 NoSubmission

Hi Winston! What are 'AQs'?

Al Qaedans = AQs

60 victor_yugo  5/31/08 9:55:39 am reply quote 1

re: #47 realwest

No, but to invoke that part of the Constitution you'd need to have either an Act of War against them passed by Congress or something similar. That we are at war with SOME Muslims, doesn't mean we're at war with ALL Muslims or their friends.

al-Qaeda declared war against us. Congress' inaction does not mean there is no war.

61 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 9:55:42 am reply quote 0

re: #56 MandyManners

Viera is cotton candy. She couldn't handle real news.

Meredith the bobble-head doll...

62 hermeneutics  5/31/08 9:56:33 am reply quote 0

C Span has Rules and Bylaws committee meeting LIVE, now.

[Link: c-span.org...]

63 zmdavid  5/31/08 9:56:48 am reply quote 1

re: #57 savage_nation

Double-aught can go all the way back to the time of Jesus.

It's George Bush's fault that Pilate hung Jesus on the cross! eek!

Technically there was no year 0. The calendar goes from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D.

64 paxnhymn  5/31/08 9:57:15 am reply quote 1

GUFFAWWW!
One of the speakers was introduced as " The Imam for the Institute of Contemporary Islamic Thought"..

That's the funniest oxymoron I think I've ever heard!

:-D

65 victor_yugo  5/31/08 9:57:24 am reply quote 0

re: #58 alegrias

* * *
Remember Sirhan Sirhan the "disgruntled" Palestinian living in California who murdered Robert F. Kennedy was this kind of anti-Semite, living in the USA.

John Kennedy was killed by a disgruntled dabler in Communism with a Soviet wife.

It's weird America doesn't hold disgruntled communists and anti-semites responsible for these two Kennedy deaths.

Who says we don't?

66 Nevergiveup  5/31/08 9:58:09 am reply quote 0

re: #12 pat

Do college students have classes anymore?

Well, considering how late my daughters starts and then how early in the year she gets done, I don't think so. Of course the tuition only keeps going up.

67 realwest  5/31/08 9:58:11 am reply quote 2

re: #42 alegrias "That's just not right so many are complacent about horrific ideas floating all around us."
You are absolutely correct and I love you too (but PLEASE don't call me "Sir" - I know you mean it as a sign of respect, but it just makes me feel old more mature!
And I shouldn't, I guess, have given you a flippant answer to your question. You are of course correct; unfortunately, as I've said out here before, we are fighting a GWoT which, insofar as shooting goes, involves only Iraq and Iran and most Americans, unless they have family or friends in the miliary, don't feel any pain from those fights.
Unless and until the President involves ALL Americans in the fight, I'm afraid that complaceny will continue.

68 VegasRick  5/31/08 9:58:12 am reply quote 0

re: #57 savage_nation

Double-aught can go all the way back to the time of Jesus.

It's George Bush's fault that Pilate hung Jesus on the cross! eek!

Bush caused the extinction of the dinosaurs! Google it!
/

69 savage_nation[deleted]  5/31/08 9:58:29 am 0
70 sattv4u2  5/31/08 9:58:35 am reply quote 0

re: #28 Mich-again

re: #56 MandyManners

Viera is cotton candy. She couldn't handle real news.

I stated it on the last thread. Mclellan is on Russerts show tomorrow. Russert usually shows some guts, regardless of party. I'm sure he'll ask about it. If Mclellan does the "I wasn;t aware of who owend it" act, I'm not sure how far Russert will push it

71 paxnhymn  5/31/08 9:58:56 am reply quote 1

re: #47 realwest

No, but to invoke that part of the Constitution you'd need to have either an Act of War against them passed by Congress or something similar. That we are at war with SOME Muslims, doesn't mean we're at war with ALL Muslims or their friends.

naw..real...we are kidding ourselves to think that. We ARE at war with all moslems. The ones who are peaceful are by the kookrans own admission not true moslems.

72 alegrias  5/31/08 9:59:31 am reply quote 0

re: #48 hermeneutics

With affirmative action admission policies and the underlying desire for cultural diversity on Ivy campuses, their "effete communism" is looking more like the "Arab street." Among the profs, it is "effete;" among students, more street.

* * *
Thank you everyone for exposing the "effete" kefiyeh wearers trying oh so stylishly to "keep it real" and show solidarity with street jihadists, instead of those who bring peace through STRENGTH & liberty & freedom.

I love you guys for keeping the camel nose out of the freedom tent.

73 hermeneutics  5/31/08 9:59:41 am reply quote 0

re: #66 Nevergiveup

No kidding -- my daughter ended her spring term in APRIL.

74 Neo Con since 9-11  5/31/08 9:59:41 am reply quote 3

re: #38 hermeneutics


Just recently, the head of a religious studies deparment asked me if I wanted to be considered for a fully-tenured chair of Islamic studies ... I couldn't believe it.

Are you considering that position? It would be good to have one sane patriot in that department and I think the students would benefit from hearing the truth about Islam at least once.

75 realwest  5/31/08 9:59:49 am reply quote 0

re: #49 really grumpy big dog johnson Must be! LOL!
Glad you decided to come out to LGF and play!
And I still don't know why many "important Dems" and the DNC and the MSM came out SO EARLY for Obama.

76 savage_nation[deleted]  5/31/08 9:59:59 am 0
77 victor_yugo  5/31/08 10:00:59 am reply quote 0

re: #58 alegrias

As a follow-on to my #65 above:

I do hold the effete idiots in our university towers responsible for the deaths of JFK, the same way I hold them responsible for the Ukrainian genocide and the mass "disappearances" under Mao.

The term "Gramscian whore" should be tattooed on their foreheads.

78 MarineMomSue  5/31/08 10:01:29 am reply quote 1

re: #12 pat

Do college students have classes anymore?

classes? they don't need no stinkin classes!

They already know everything they need to know... Bush is the enemy...obama is the the "A.N.S.W.E.R.

Sue

79 Occasional Reader  5/31/08 10:01:32 am reply quote 1

re: #76 savage_nation

Bush caused the Big Bang too...

It was a controlled demolition!

80 itellu3times  5/31/08 10:01:36 am reply quote 0

re: #24 hermeneutics

Why Irvine? Are the rest of the UC schools the same or is Irvine particularly hateful and antisemitic?

I've seen Nabka signs and meetings at UCLA for several years.

As well as commie agitprop stuff could be right out of the 1960s - or 1920's. Not a lot, and no reason to think anyone pays it serious attention, but it's there.

81 hermeneutics  5/31/08 10:01:38 am reply quote 0

re: #74 Neo Con since 9-11

No. I wouldn't touch it. I'm not an Islamicist and shouldn't have been considered.

82 VegasRick  5/31/08 10:02:20 am reply quote 0

re: #76 savage_nation

Bush caused the Big Bang too...

He made me break my arm when I was 6. Bastard!
/

83 victor_yugo  5/31/08 10:02:21 am reply quote 0

re: #76 savage_nation

Bush caused the Big Bang too...

No, that was Bill Clinton...

84 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 10:02:35 am reply quote 0

re: #75 realwest

Must be! LOL!
Glad you decided to come out to LGF and play!
And I still don't know why many "important Dems" and the DNC and the MSM came out SO EARLY for Obama.

The first two friggin primaries, and lo-and-behold, Obama was an overnight sensation not for the votes he received, but for those he did not receive.

Let's face it, it's not possible to simulate the logic of democrats, because there's no logic there.

85 ploome hineni  5/31/08 10:02:41 am reply quote 0

re: #81 hermeneutics

No. I wouldn't touch it. I'm not an Islamicist and shouldn't have been considered.

why were you considered?

seems like an interesting job

86 realwest  5/31/08 10:02:58 am reply quote 1

re: #60 victor_yugo I agree completely. I'm just giving you a legal interpretation; frankly Iran declared war on us in 1979 when they took over American territory (to say nothing of the Kidnapped hostages) and we didn't do anything.
Legally it really does require an Act of Congress either declaring war or acknowledging that a State of War exists (think of FDR's speech and Congress' action vs Japan after Pearl Harbor).

87 zombie  5/31/08 10:02:59 am reply quote 2

re: #58 alegrias

It's weird America doesn't hold disgruntled communists and anti-semites responsible for these two Kennedy deaths.

Isn't it?

I actually was gobsmacked when I first learned that Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian radical. I never really knew much about the RFK killing, but in nothing I ever saw did it mention that he was Palestinian. Just a "nutcase."

it was not actually until about five years ago that I first learned of it (on the Internet, of course.) I was like, "Holy cow! Why does no one ever discuss this?"

I once even watched an hour-long TV documentary about the assassination, and it didn't mention the word "Palestinian" even once.

88 sattv4u2  5/31/08 10:03:02 am reply quote 0

Amazing. The DNC sets up a 'rule". Michigan and Florida break the "rule". Michigan and Florida now appeal to not be punished.

PREDICTION,, the DNC will seat the delegates!

"son, if you stay up past 10, you can't play video games tomorrow"
"dad, I stayed up until 12"
"son, have fun playing video games tomorrow"

89 Nevergiveup  5/31/08 10:03:09 am reply quote 0

I am getting hungry and I want to diet, so periodically I turn the TV channel to the DNC rules committee. Instant nausea. And it is a free diet!

90 Sharmuta  5/31/08 10:03:38 am reply quote 0

re: #86 realwest

That's why I'm advocating the Smith Act. It doesn't require a state of war.

91 itellu3times  5/31/08 10:03:53 am reply quote 0

re: #20 Luigi

I wonder how many of them are Republicans.

How many of who - UCI Palis, or UCI students generally?

Certainly there's a big Vietnamese contingent from the nearby Little Saigon, and they tend right of center.

Orange County as a whole now is pretty mixed.

92 Nevergiveup  5/31/08 10:04:03 am reply quote 0

re: #83 victor_yugo

No, that was Bill Clinton...

No your thinking of that big "sucking sound" I think.

93 rockdad  5/31/08 10:04:31 am reply quote 0

re: #79 Occasional Reader

It was a controlled demolition!

It was an inside job!

94 victor_yugo  5/31/08 10:05:04 am reply quote 0

re: #88 sattv4u2

Amazing. The DNC sets up a 'rule". Michigan and Florida break the "rule". Michigan and Florida now appeal to not be punished.

PREDICTION,, the DNC will seat the delegates!

"son, if you stay up past 10, you can't play video games tomorrow"
"dad, I stayed up until 12"
"son, have fun playing video games tomorrow"

Who is the DNC to dictate to the Secretaries of State how they will carry out their duties under the United States Constitution?

F*%k the DNC and their pathetic "rules."

95 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  5/31/08 10:05:21 am reply quote 0

UC Irvine is most likely a state-funded University. Can taxpayers appeal to the state legislature to reform this "educational institution" or cut off its funding?

96 itellu3times  5/31/08 10:05:30 am reply quote 0

re: #38 hermeneutics

Just recently, the head of a religious studies deparment asked me if I wanted to be considered for a fully-tenured chair of Islamic studies ... I couldn't believe it.

The scarf is working for you?

/kidding

97 Occasional Reader  5/31/08 10:05:43 am reply quote 2

re: #93 rockdad

It was an inside job!

Jews were all warned to stay home from the proto-Universe that morning.

98 Sharmuta  5/31/08 10:06:04 am reply quote 4

According to my research, the Smith Act is the closest thing we have to sedition laws in America, and I think it's high past time we get serious about islamic sedition in this country.

99 Nevergiveup  5/31/08 10:06:07 am reply quote 0

re: #94 victor_yugo

Who is the DNC to dictate to the Secretaries of State how they will carry out their duties under the United States Constitution?

F*%k the DNC and their pathetic "rules."

These are only democratic primaries so the Sec. Of States are not involved.

100 hermeneutics  5/31/08 10:06:52 am reply quote 0

re: #85 ploome hineni

I'm not sure why I was considered. I was sitting in the department chair's office, chatting about nuthin,' and he brought up the search committee for this position. I asked him how it was going, off-handedly, and he became both animated and defensive. He asked me why I wanted to know about the search ... I didn't really have a good answer. Just curious. Then he asked me to apply.

He knows my vita -- No Arabic language (though I'm studying it now, just for me); No publications in this field; No background; No courses, even as an undergrad.

I am supremely unqualified.

101 alegrias  5/31/08 10:07:06 am reply quote 0

re: #50 savage_nation

They play that wordgame and it can be construed that they are giving aid and comfort themselves by all their bullshit.

* * *
"Aid and Comfort: Jane Fonda in Vietnam" by Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer is something I started reading just last night.

It has a foreword by Col. George "Bud" Day, who took John Kerry to court for slandering US POWs.

I recommend this book. It holds Tom Hayden the California politician and rioter at the 1968 Democrat convention, responsible for much treason against the US.

It discusses the US law of treason.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or, in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." (Constitution of the United States of America, Article III, Section 3, paragraph 1)

102 savage_nation[deleted]  5/31/08 10:07:11 am 0
103 VegasRick  5/31/08 10:07:18 am reply quote 5

re: #97 Occasional Reader

Jews were all warned to stay home from the proto-Universe that morning.

Bush knew! The universe blew!

104 VegasRick  5/31/08 10:07:57 am reply quote 0

re: #94 victor_yugo

Who is the DNC to dictate to the Secretaries of State how they will carry out their duties under the United States Constitution?

F*%k the DNC and their pathetic "rules."

Had to.

105 savage_nation[deleted]  5/31/08 10:08:14 am 0
106 realwest  5/31/08 10:08:21 am reply quote 1

re: #71 paxnhymn Well, again, I was speaking of legalities (Please see my #
86). I know it's not popular to say the things I've said, but I'm afraid that's what the law says.

And as I've said to my good friend alegrias at #67, Most Americans are not involved in the WoT. They just aren't, even though folks like us on LGF understand that war and the nature of it, no one has asked the American people to sacrifice ANYTHING (except of course for those in the military and their friends and families.).

107 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 10:09:24 am reply quote 0

I just love it. The DNC asks Michigan to foot the bill to have a new dem primary in the state, and the state rightly refuses. The DNC damn well won't pay for it, so it's all the fault of the state that the primary was "faulty".

Carl Levin is a jerk.

108 NoSubmission  5/31/08 10:09:35 am reply quote 0

re: #87 zombie

I once even watched an hour-long TV documentary about the assassination, and it didn't mention the word "Palestinian" even once.


Because there is no such thing as a 'palestinian.'

109 Ma Sands  5/31/08 10:09:53 am reply quote 0

Jonathan Constantine, who got the hat tip for the posting up top of this thread, said also, "Some of the videos are sloppy..."

.....which is nice to know --off-putting to casual, perhaps-unswayed-as-yet viewers.

110 paxnhymn  5/31/08 10:10:51 am reply quote 1

re: #100 hermeneutics

I'm not sure why I was considered. I was sitting in the department chair's office, chatting about nuthin,' and he brought up the search committee for this position. I asked him how it was going, off-handedly, and he became both animated and defensive. He asked me why I wanted to know about the search ... I didn't really have a good answer. Just curious. Then he asked me to apply.

He knows my vita -- No Arabic language (though I'm studying it now, just for me); No publications in this field; No background; No courses, even as an undergrad.

I am supremely unqualified.

I think the two basic qualifications are can you point your ass in the air five times a day, and can you load a Kalishnikov...

111 alegrias  5/31/08 10:11:56 am reply quote 0

re: #65 victor_yugo

Who says we don't?

* * *
Seriously, now. You tell me or guess how many Americans remember murdering Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian pissed off Robert F. Kennedy supported Israel instead of the Palis in the 1967 war?

112 samsgran1948  5/31/08 10:12:04 am reply quote 1

re: #88 sattv4u2

Amazing. The DNC sets up a 'rule". Michigan and Florida break the "rule". Michigan and Florida now appeal to not be punished.

PREDICTION,, the DNC will seat the delegates!

"son, if you stay up past 10, you can't play video games tomorrow"
"dad, I stayed up until 12"
"son, have fun playing video games tomorrow"

No Democrat has ever met a rule that they thought pertained to them once it got in their way.

113 Racer X  5/31/08 10:12:05 am reply quote 0

C'mon Hillary, pass the bra and panties over to Obama already.

114 victor_yugo  5/31/08 10:14:08 am reply quote 0

re: #100 hermeneutics

He knows my vita -- No Arabic language (though I'm studying it now, just for me); No publications in this field; No background; No courses, even as an undergrad.

I am supremely unqualified.

Maybe your application would be the "proof" that he wasn't trying to sabotage the search?

115 newsjunkie_ky  5/31/08 10:14:11 am reply quote 0