♻RetweetJimmy Carter 1976 Election Ad: Change!
Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:34:35 am PDT
One reason why this constant mantra of “CHANGE! HOPE!” is so irritating is that they’ve been peddling this snake oil for decades.
(Hat tip: Killgore.)
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Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:34:35 am PDT
One reason why this constant mantra of “CHANGE! HOPE!” is so irritating is that they’ve been peddling this snake oil for decades.
(Hat tip: Killgore.)
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:35:12am |
change the racist policies of the democrat party !
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:35:35am |
Is change still change if it hasn't changed?
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SalsaNChips Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:35:59am |
Is that "Meat Head" in the blue shirt and pants?
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:36:01am |
wonder how many Holloywood idiots will be in the VIP section at the Nazicrat Party convention in Denver this year ?
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joncelli Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:36:34am |
At least BO doesn't have that stupid grin (I hated it when I was 12 and I STILL hate it!).
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:37:18am |
re: #4 SalsaNChips
Is that "Meat Head" in the blue shirt and pants?
Either him or Thurman Munson.
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vxbush Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:37:25am |
So is 1970's-style change the same as 21-st century style change?
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:38:12am |
Is it just me or...
(a) does "Change we can believe in", make no sense,
(b) does "Change we can believe in" seem straight out of "1984".
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kcladderman Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:38:16am |
But that election turned out so well for the country
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Miss Molly Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:38:57am |
Oh please not more of Jimmy Carter to listen to. We had 4 years of him already. Why won't he just quietly go away?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:39:02am |
Wow, a Ford Bronco and two old Saabs (96s) parked in the same lot!
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:39:16am |
re: #12 savage_nation
I'd outlaw the fucking Democrat Party. Shut their asses up permanently.
indeed and agreed
but first, we have to get everyone to adopt their new name
"The Nazicrat Party"
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:39:49am |
re: #18 Adrenalyn
Take it easy there boss...as bad as the Democrats might be/seem...they are VERY VERY VERY far from Nazis.
Don't be a dumbass.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:39:50am |
re: #20 rawmuse
The more things change...
How is that in French?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:39:53am |
re: #9 vxbush
So is 1970's-style change the same as 21-st century style change?
Except in the '70s, it was double knit.
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:40:11am |
The more things *ahem* change, the more they stay the same.
Rabbit Bait surrendered to the Soviets and Iranians.
B. Hussein will do exactly the same thing.
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:40:16am |
And the outcome would be the same too. Misery indexes, actual recession as opposed to the talked down economic growth we continue seeing despite the doom and gloomers, appeasement, and it's all the change you hope never to see again.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:41:14am |
Meanwhile, Barry was walking the beach, trying to score a lid.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:41:41am |
re: #21 WrathofG-d
Take it easy there boss...as bad as the Democrats might be/seem...they are VERY VERY VERY far from Nazis.
Don't be a dumbass.
I have to disagree
they are very totalitarian
first thing they want to do is confiscate guns
much like the Nazi's
and stifle dissent, much like the nazis
I know it may be a bit over the top to use such a strong label
but I truly feel they are worthy of it
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zmdavid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:42:01am |
It's like the 1955 and 1985 mayoral campaigns from Back to the Future.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:42:06am |
re: #25 lawhawk
And the outcome would be the same too.
I think you're right. I'm getting ready to tighten my belt and survive the Obama presidency the best I can.
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pegcity Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:42:20am |
Is it weird that i feel naseous after watching that.
Like seriously i don't feel well.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:42:22am |
re: #25 lawhawk
And the outcome would be the same too. Misery indexes, actual recession as opposed to the talked down economic growth we continue seeing despite the doom and gloomers, appeasement, and it's all the change you hope never to see again.
Yep, double-digit interest rates, stagflation, you name it.
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Cowardkerry Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:43:29am |
Change? Be careful what you wish for. My life is so horrid right now///
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:43:41am |
What do Jimmy and Barry have in common?
One was a peanut farmer the other has a peanut brain...no wait, both have peanut brains.
One raises nuts the is nuts.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:43:41am |
re: #31 Ward Cleaver
Yep, double-digit interest rates, stagflation, you name it.
VIVA LA MALAISE!
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Zach_the_Lizard Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:43:47am |
What's all this talk of "change?" I don't want change. I want dollars, not pennies.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:44:02am |
re: #32 pegcity
THE MUSTANG II !
no, worse
The Pinto II
The Vega II
The K Car II
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:44:29am |
re: #29 Killgore Trout
I think you're right. I'm getting ready to tighten my belt and survive the Obama presidency the best I can.
* * *
Relax, a Carter II presidency tightens your belt for you!
No gas, no food, no 6% mortgages, no worries!
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:44:54am |
re: #37 Adrenalyn
no, worse
The Pinto II
The Vega II
The K Car II
The Gremlin II: The Next Batch
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pegcity Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:45:00am |
re: #37 Adrenalyn
hey there bring back the ford fiesta just in time for Obama to ruin the economy.
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:45:05am |
re: #37 Adrenalyn
no, worse
The Pinto II
The Vega II
The K Car II
oh crap
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:45:09am |
re: #27 Adrenalyn
I'm not going to go back & forth on this issue, as I couldn't disagree more with you on this issue. They are NOT Nazis, they are NOT even like Nazis, and in fact they have very little in common with Nazis. You are just going over the top with this one. Its like when the LLL compare Bush to Hitler...complete nonsense.
Sure there might be similarities, but that doesn't mean A+B =C. I drive a car, get up in the morning, put on pants, and comb my hair...but that doesn't make me Mario Andretti.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:45:30am |
re: #32 pegcity
THE MUSTANG II !
The Dodge Aspen (Rex Harrison singing, "Unbelievable") and Plymouth Volare!
The Ford Granada! "It looks like a Mercedes!"
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MadJadBad Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:46:07am |
I've been waiting all my life for change. Change in the SSI program ponzi scheme. Change in income tax regulations. Change in the government's energy policy. Change in the government's deficit spending. Basically, more common sense in government and less politics. (I can dream, can't I). I don't think any of the candidates are going to bring the kind of change I've been waiting for.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:46:33am |
And don't forget the Chrysler Cordoba, with its rich Corinthian leather!
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:46:37am |
re: #40 pegcity
hey there bring back the ford fiesta just in time for Obama to ruin the economy.
* * *
And Ford Motors is opening a Fiesta factory in MEXICO just in time then.
(Seriously, it was in the news)
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Ringo the Gringo Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:47:09am |
It's amazing how many videos there are of snippetes from Obama's speeches set to music and beats.
Here's a remix of Sam Cooke's A Change is Gonna Come with Obama talkin' of "change" and "hope".
Scary stuff, cultish.
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CIA Reject Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:47:28am |
re: #37 Adrenalyn
no, worse
The Pinto II
The Vega II
The K Car II
The Plymouth Volare
/'nuf said...
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:47:33am |
re: #47 alegrias
* * *
And Ford Motors is opening a Fiesta factory in MEXICO just in time then.(Seriously, it was in the news)
Fiestas were great rat-racers.
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Dahveed Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:47:59am |
They may pedal this "Hope-Change" message. They problem is that there are so many that buy the message. There are so many that want to change the United States so much that we will end of looking like France.
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:00am |
re: #42 WrathofG-d
I'm not going to go back & forth on this issue, as I couldn't disagree more with you on this issue. They are NOT Nazis, they are NOT even like Nazis, and in fact they have very little in common with Nazis. You are just going over the top with this one. Its like when the LLL compare Bush to Hitler...complete nonsense.
Sure there might be similarities, but that doesn't mean A+B =C. I drive a car, get up in the morning, put on pants, and comb my hair...but that doesn't make me Mario Andretti.
But a guy can pretend on his way to work, cant he?
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:12am |
re: #46 Ward Cleaver
And don't forget the Chrysler Cordoba, with its rich Corinthian leather!
you forgot to channel Ricardo Montalban...
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CIA Reject Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:22am |
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:31am |
re: #43 Ward Cleaver
The Ford Granada! "It looks like a Mercedes!"
My parents had a Granada...double crap.
Don't forget the American Motors Pacer.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:37am |
some one should put this one up on t.v. and not just u-tube
BEEN THERE DONE THAT.
Nothing is new under the sun. esp in politics.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:37am |
re: #53 Adrenalyn
you forgot to channel Ricardo Montalban...
"KHAAAN!"
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:46am |
re: #43 Ward Cleaver
The Dodge Aspen (Rex Harrison singing, "Unbelievable") and Plymouth Volare!
The Ford Granada! "It looks like a Mercedes!"
I had a Volare. It was sitting on the lot next to a Mustang Mach I at the same price. Insurance was the killer. Body and and interior went to shit, the 225CID slant six ran forever.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:49:07am |
re: #53 Adrenalyn
you forgot to channel Ricardo Montalban...
You look mahvelous!
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Izzy Dunne Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:49:11am |
re: #42 WrathofG-d
I drive a car, get up in the morning, put on pants, and comb my hair...
Have you considered doing those things in a different order?
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:49:17am |
re: #50 Ward Cleaver
Fiestas were great rat-racers.
* * *
This is excellent news for Mexican workers, able to work on Ford Fiestas in their own country, just as people want cheap cars that use less fuel. Change!
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:49:27am |
re: #55 jorline
The Ford Granada! "It looks like a Mercedes!"
My parents had a Granada...double crap.
Don't forget the American Motors Pacer.
And the Granada's sibling, the Mercury Monarch. More crap.
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:49:57am |
Carter had nothing to run on except he was "not Nixon", which he claimed Ford was.
Likewise, Obama-of-the-short-resume is running on "not Bush", thus "change." BUT, he is also "not Clinton", thus change "you can believe in."
Because even their fans know the Clintons are liars.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:50:08am |
re: #58 jcm
I had a Volare. It was sitting on the lot next to a Mustang Mach I at the same price. Insurance was the killer. Body and and interior went to shit, the 225CID slant six ran forever.
Volare', whoa-oh-oh-oh!
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zmdavid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:50:12am |
re: #38 alegrias
* * *
Relax, a Carter II presidency tightens your belt for you!No gas, no food, no 6% mortgages, no worries!
Sounds like the closing theme of Gilligan's Island
No phone, no lights no motor cars, not a single luxury, like Robinson Crusoe, as primitive as can be.
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tokyobk Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:50:15am |
Obama could be the worst of Clinton, Carter with a Kennedy veneer.
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The Other Les Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:50:16am |
re: #21 WrathofG-d
Take it easy there boss...as bad as the Democrats might be/seem...they are VERY VERY VERY far from Nazis.
Don't be a dumbass.
You have to look at the foundation of their ideologies and attitudes.
Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist German Worker's Party are the crazy relatives that the present day Left goes to great effort to avoid talking about.
The pragmatic brand of socialist (as opposed to the doctrinaire Marxist) will strike the pose that will have the most appeal in the target audience's minds. Thus in Germany, where the army was traditionally held in the highest esteem, the NSDAP assumed in public the form of a substitute army (ersatzarmee) with a mass of clean-cut men in spiffy uniforms marching about in disciplined formations. In the United States, where the standing military was traditionally looked upon with suspicion if not ridicule, the Left rejected the militarist paradigm. Unfortunately (for them, not necessarily for us), they assumed the form of what decent people came to call dirty-stinking hippies, a mob of unwashed savages attired in cast-off or otherwise ridiculous clothing who moved about in a sloppy mass.
The American Left in its manifestation as the Anti-war Movement had in effect taken on the modern form of a barbarian horde. But given that Socialism is essentially barbarian brigandage in modernistic makeup, why should we be surprised?
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:51:01am |
re: #62 Ward Cleaver
And the Granada's sibling, the Mercury Monarch. More crap.
* * *
You lizards trying to lose Michigan again, or in the general election, by offending our autoworking voters?
Sheeesh.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:51:32am |
re: #58 jcm
I had a Volare. It was sitting on the lot next to a Mustang Mach I at the same price. Insurance was the killer. Body and and interior went to shit, the 225CID slant six ran forever.
I used to see a Volare around here recently, a clean low mileage one. Torsion bars in the front, leaf springs in the rear. Chryslers were high tech then. Not.
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The Other Les Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:51:40am |
re: #62 Ward Cleaver
And the Granada's sibling, the Mercury Monarch. More crap.
I had a Monarch. It was truly a piece of crap.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:51:47am |
re: #58 jcm
I had a Volare. It was sitting on the lot next to a Mustang Mach I at the same price. Insurance was the killer. Body and and interior went to shit, the 225CID slant six ran forever.
My Dad bought a '76 Volare station wagon brand new. The DAY he brought it home, I spent 2-3 hours in it running the interior panel screws in all the way.
It was the shortest-lived car ever in our family (replacing a 14 year old Pontiac Catalina Gran Safari), and only made it to 1979 to be replaced with a Datsun B210.
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CIA Reject Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:52:23am |
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:52:33am |
re: #50 Ward Cleaver
Fiestas were great rat-racers.
mr redstateredneck has a Ford Fiesta he uses for a delivery vehicle. It's painted with Chrome-Illusion flip flop paint.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:52:47am |
re: #63 Iron Fist
,
Don't forget price controls, gas lines, hostages in Iran (new and improved with Nukes!). And this is just if Obama does what he has promised he will do. It could get worse. Imagine if the Senate goes 60+ Democrats.
No check on Power except for the Supreme Court. And not even that if the right Justices are replaced. Carter II: revenge of the L³eft.
Good Lord.
That gave me a headache!
I think I'll go home now.
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:52:58am |
re: #72 OldLineTexan
My Dad bought a '76 Volare station wagon brand new. The DAY he brought it home, I spent 2-3 hours in it running the interior panel screws in all the way.
It was the shortest-lived car ever in our family (replacing a 14 year old Pontiac Catalina Gran Safari), and only made it to 1979 to be replaced with a Datsun B210.
The auto unions seemed to enjoy making crappy cars.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:53:09am |
re: #55 jorline
The Ford Granada! "It looks like a Mercedes!"
My parents had a Granada...double crap.
Don't forget the American Motors Pacer.
AMC Pacer, the wide small car. You still see some super low mileage originals for sale on eBay occasionally.
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rawmuse Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:53:46am |
I once owned an AMC Pacer. But, I don't think much of it. I used to vote Democrat also.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:53:51am |
re: #27 Adrenalyn
I will have to agree the use of the term Nazi or fascist in america has cheapened its real meaning. No American President of eather party was or is a nazi. it is meaningless use of this term that distorts it true meaning.
there have been blood thuristy mass murderes in our time, pol pot, saddam, mao and a few others but none of them are American.
one can completley or mostly disagree with the current crop of democrats or republicans without going into this swamp.
I know what the real nazi's, stalinists, and ottoman islmo facists really were because of the blood spilled in my family.
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:00am |
re: #77 Ward Cleaver
AMC Pacer, the wide small car. You still see some super low mileage originals for sale on eBay occasionally.
The bubble car...crap!
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:05am |
Hmmm... "Change"" --another thing that Obama has "borrowed"...
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:21am |
re: #64 Silhouette
Seriously, what in the world does; "Change You Can Believe In" mean?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:23am |
re: #74 redstateredneck
mr redstateredneck has a Ford Fiesta he uses for a delivery vehicle. It's painted with Chrome-Illusion flip flop paint.
Wicked. Not to be confused with the Ford Festiva, which was a Mazda design (the Mazda 121), built by Kia.
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:42am |
I have neighbors who are card-carrying Democrats. They say they will sit out the election or maybe even vote for McCain if Obama is nominated. Their daughter, who is usually a bit less left-wing than they are, is an Obama supporter.
The difference?
The parents remember Jimmy Carter. The daughter is too young.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:51am |
re: #52 DownRightMeanAmerican
But a guy can pretend on his way to work, cant he?
/
Wrath, I agree with you. I find it beyond offensive when people decide to call others they don't like Nazis. Democrats are not Nazis and I even am offended by someone suggesting that the Democratic party be outlawed. This is America and half of our population are not Nazis. My father and my uncles fought in WWII - they knew(all passed on now) what the Nazis were about and what they did- even more so because we are Jewish. I guess the person who started this really doesn't know what the Nazis did- or is not affected by it enough to refrain from throwing the word "Nazi" around.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:51am |
re: #76 debutaunt
The auto unions seemed to enjoy making crappy cars.
* * *
We should give equal credit to the bad car designs.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:19am |
Ugh, nightmare of nightmares, it's Dhimmi Carter.
OT: Has anyone here gotten a call from a place called "Fortress Credit" asking you to authorize a $10,000 credit limit? They have one of those 877 numbers and called me about 1/2 hour ago. As I am on the Do-Not-Call List, I just reported them so they can be investigated.
It was very odd, as I've never filled out any paperwork for them.
/I think it's a scam.
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:21am |
In a related note, the Warner-Lieberman is going to impose a whole new level of pain in the name of "green". Yet another indoctrination into the cult of eco-nonsense. Carbon trading is a scam, and anyone with a pulse should recognize that it's Enron writ large.
Of course, since it's a government imposed program, it's here to help you. Help you to lighten your wallet and paycheck, all while making it far more expensive to do just about anything.
And where will all that money go? Into the black hole of government accountability.
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:25am |
re: #83 WrathofG-d
Seriously, what in the world does; "Change You Can Believe In" mean?
I'm guessing it will turn out to be a new and improved style of communism.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:29am |
re: #42 WrathofG-d
well, I'll try to keep a lid on it
but there are many similarities than perhaps you think of right this second, that I observe
racial policies - being a white hetero male, is getting to be as bad as being Juden in old Germany
media control - see ABC,NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, Gannett, NYTimes Co.
etc..
gun control - self explanatory
forced labor - we pay taxes for their wild spending (a stretch...I agree)
government contract preferences - white male businesses need not apply, like Joo businesses
killing joos - let Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza wipe out Israel
there are some similarites - in my opinion
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:29am |
We had a VW Bug and a Chevy Nova...
The bug had pleather seats and a crank sunroof.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:42am |
re: #80 jorline
The bubble car...crap!
Lots of glass, which required a big-ass air conditioner.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:56:03am |
re: #83 WrathofG-d
Seriously, what in the world does; "Change You Can Believe In" mean?
* * *
It's like a rock lyric, or a market tested brand, that makes people swoon.
It's conditioning, you're supposed to feel better about those WORDS THAT WORK.
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cookielady Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:56:11am |
The Democrat Party has Changed so much that the old-style dems can't recognize it. It has moved steadily and stealthily leftward and left the sensible democrats behind. They have moved reluctantly toward the Republican Party, which has been pulled leftward by their influence. Today's Repubs are much like yesterday's Dems. And us conservatives are left behind by all parties.
Change! Let the Obamalaise begin...
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joncelli Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:56:21am |
re: #46 Ward Cleaver
Nonono, it's pronounced "Reech Coreeenthian layther." (Khaaan!)
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beblebrox Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:03am |
re: #58 jcm
To this day i will never forgive my parents back in the 80's for selling a mint condition 1968 Mustang that had been replaced with a new car exactly 1 month before i got my drivers permit. this was back 1984. my mom had been driving it as the family car for years, the only problem with it was it had a rain leak coming through that grate between the wipers. my dad at the time said that it wasn't worth fixing "a 16 year old pile of junk" and told me that I didn't really want the car.
/still resentful.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:06am |
re: #85 wolfie
I have neighbors who are card-carrying Democrats. They say they will sit out the election or maybe even vote for McCain if Obama is nominated. Their daughter, who is usually a bit less left-wing than they are, is an Obama supporter.
The difference?
The parents remember Jimmy Carter. The daughter is too young.
I think that is a big key to why Obama is so successful amonfg the college-age crowd... No recall of the disaster that was Jimmy Carter...
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:24am |
re: #87 alegrias
* * *
We should give equal credit to the bad car designs.
Equal credit to design and crappy manufacture. A perfect plan to lose our top standing.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:32am |
Cadillac Cimmaron
anyone get that wonderful car yet
a Malibu dolled up as a Caddy
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:37am |
re: #83 WrathofG-d
Seriously, what in the world does; "Change You Can Believe In" mean?
Who the hell knows, but damn(!) don't it make you feel good?
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zmdavid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:50am |
re: #83 WrathofG-d
Seriously, what in the world does; "Change You Can Believe In" mean?
Before the election, it means whatever the voter wants it to mean, after the election, it means whatever Obama wants it to mean.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:51am |
re: #87 alegrias
We should give equal credit to the bad car designs.
Very true. And, we should also remember that most of the cars from then were hit or miss. I mean, how many 1970s Civics still ply the highways?
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:01am |
re: #92 loppyd
We had a VW Bug and a Chevy Nova...
The bug had pleather seats and a crank sunroof.
what about the VW Thing...crapola
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:04am |
re: #88 Honorary Yooper
Either that, or they must be pretty new...
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:14am |
re: #92 loppyd
We had a VW Bug and a Chevy Nova...
The bug had pleather seats and a crank sunroof.
* * *
Lucky you! Everyone wanted to ride in those bugs with sunroofs--Schiebedachs in german.
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tripster Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:24am |
Does this mean that my pair of baby blue angel flights are back in fashion?
Ssswwweeettt !
That and a groovy polyester long sleeve with a bitching long collar.
Man I'm so getting some at the club later.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:45am |
In AIPAC Speech, McCain Hits Obama on Iran, Iraq
SNIP
WASHINGTON – Senator John McCain of Arizona used a speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the pro-Israel lobby, to lambaste Senator Barack Obama on two fronts: he charged that Mr. Obama’s calls for diplomacy with Iran were misguided and insufficient, and that his proposal to begin withdrawing United States troops from Iraq would lead to chaos in the region and endanger Israel.“The Iranians have spent years working toward a nuclear program,’’ Mr. McCain was to say, according to excerpts from the speech provided by his campaign. “And the idea that they now seek nuclear weapons because we refuse to engage in presidential-level talks is a serious misreading of history,’’ he added, noting that previous overtures by the Clinton administration had failed.
“Even so, we hear talk of a meeting with the Iranian leadership offered up as if it were some sudden inspiration, a bold new idea that somehow nobody has ever thought of before,’’ he said in the advance text of his speech, which was provided by his campaign.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:59:02am |
My family had a 1973 Ford Maverick when I was growing up...
It was stolen from in front of my home in 1993...
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RTLM Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:59:03am |
Obama, Carter and Iran's foreign minister all agree.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:59:21am |
re: #91 Adrenalyn
Sorry, I don't agree and I find it offensive that you continue this line. Dislike the policies, hate the people- but I am positive you won't find yourself being killed or your children or parents killed and half of your "people" being destroyed. Please drop it-now.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:59:29am |
re: #104 jorline
what about the VW Thing...crapola
actually, it outlasted the Nova...
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funkyfantom Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:59:40am |
re: #64 Silhouette
Carter had nothing to run on except he was "not Nixon", which he claimed Ford was.
Likewise, Obama-of-the-short-resume is running on "not Bush", thus "change." BUT, he is also "not Clinton", thus change "you can believe in."
Because even their fans know the Clintons are liars.
To complete the picture - Obama's general election campaign will be based on labeling McCain as 'Bush" because Bush's poll numbers are low nowadays, just like Ford was "Nixon".
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chinesearithmetic Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:59:41am |
Seriously, what in the world does; "Change You Can Believe In" mean?
I live in the East, but I think it's a variation of the jingle for Heileman's Old Style beer.
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:01pm |
re: #100 Adrenalyn
Cadillac Cimmaron
anyone get that wonderful car yet
a Malibu dolled up as a Caddy
Baby Caddy.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:17pm |
re: #86 madisonsfriend
Wrath, I agree with you. I find it beyond offensive when people decide to call others they don't like Nazis. Democrats are not Nazis and I even am offended by someone suggesting that the Democratic party be outlawed. This is America and half of our population are not Nazis. My father and my uncles fought in WWII - they knew(all passed on now) what the Nazis were about and what they did- even more so because we are Jewish. I guess the person who started this really doesn't know what the Nazis did- or is not affected by it enough to refrain from throwing the word "Nazi" around.
I AM IN 100% AGREEMENT WITH YOU IT ANGERS ME WHEN MOONBATS DO THIS TO AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT AND IT IS WRONG TO DO IT TO THE DEMS AS WELL. IT CLEARLY SHOWS A TOTAL LACK OF KNOWAGE WHAT THE REAL NAZIS WERE.
the current crop of democrats are very much like the european social democrats, the canadian liberal, green party and/or NDP. and one can disagree with them with out going into a DINGBAT/MOONBAT SWAMP.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:20pm |
re: #113 funkyfantom
To complete the picture - Obama's general election campaign will be based on labeling McCain as 'Bush" because Bush's poll numbers are low nowadays, just like Ford was "Nixon".
Yes and it just might be a winning tactic...
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:25pm |
re: #106 alegrias
* * *
Lucky you! Everyone wanted to ride in those bugs with sunroofs--Schiebedachs in german.
I had a '64 with a canvas covered sunroof. Some of the snaps were broken and it flapped in the breeze. Snowed inside the car too.
Bummer.
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:26pm |
re: #93 Ward Cleaver
Lots of glass, which required a big-ass air conditioner.
parents had several Ramblers as well...no wonder I'm so screwed-up now...my whole childhood was spent in crappy cars.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:30pm |
re: #6 joncelli
At least BO doesn't have that stupid grin (I hated it when I was 12 and I STILL hate it!).
We must be about the same age. My house was in love with his grin. Including me. Was such a change from what I had seen before.
Thought he looked like a fun guy. Gosh, glad I grew up.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:31pm |
re: #101 redstateredneck
Oh. I thought it was "chains you can believe in"- a goth thing.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:00:42pm |
re: #100 Adrenalyn
Cadillac Cimmaron
anyone get that wonderful car yet
a Malibu dolled up as a Caddy
It was a J-car (Chevy Cavalier). Cadillac's still trying to live that one down.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:01:27pm |
re: #109 tfc3rid
My family had a 1973 Ford Maverick when I was growing up...
It was stolen from in front of my home in 1993...
I had a '71 Maverick when I was first married. It was 7 years old then.
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:01:33pm |
re: #112 loppyd
actually, it outlasted the Nova...
LOL
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:01:50pm |
re: #106 alegrias
* * *
Lucky you! Everyone wanted to ride in those bugs with sunroofs--Schiebedachs in german.
I really loved that car.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:01:51pm |
It's an advertisement for the US Mint...
The US Mint: Change You Can Believe In!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:01:52pm |
re: #78 rawmuse
I once owned an AMC Pacer. But, I don't think much of it. I used to vote Democrat also.
I thought of buying one used years ago. But when I put it in drive, it wouldn't go. Went fine in reverse.
Didn't buy it.
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ethanxxx Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:02:10pm |
The progressive left has been throwing the accusation of "NAZI" at the republicans for years. There isn't a Damn thing wrong with throwing it back at them. The majority of these historically challenged fools no nothing about Nazism, most don't even know that the word means National Socialist... the exact goal of their own party. In my educated opinion, the only other organization that comes close to paralleling the Nazi Party besides Democrats would be Islam, which is probably why they are such close allies.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:02:19pm |
My parents even had a ceramic peanut with that grin on it. Sat on their what-not shelf for years. Think it got broken. Accidently, I'm sure.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:02:41pm |
re: #124 redstateredneck
I had a '71 Maverick when I was first married. It was 7 years old then.
My auntie had a Maverick. I was riding in it in Maine when they announced that Elvis was dead.
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:02:48pm |
re: #95 cookielady
The Democrat Party has Changed so much that the old-style dems can't recognize it. It has moved steadily and stealthily leftward and left the sensible democrats behind. They have moved reluctantly toward the Republican Party, which has been pulled leftward by their influence. Today's Repubs are much like yesterday's Dems. And us conservatives are left behind by all parties.
Change! Let the Obamalaise begin...
That's a fine, insightful summary of US political trends, IMO.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:02:53pm |
re: #91 Adrenalyn
Hey nothing personal against you, I just suggest you read the other posters on this topic: Yochanan, Madisonsfriend, etc.
Although there are are many reasons not to like agree or like Democrats, your comparrison of them to the Nazis, belittles the TRUE horror of what the Nazis were and did. Go to a Holocaust/WW2 memorial site, look at the pictures of the dead people, the concentration camps, the outlawing of religions/people, the terrorism on the street...then see if you really want to compare the Democrat party to the Nazis.
If you still do...then...I really don't know what to tell you. I guess read my Mario Andretti analogy over & over again until it makes sense.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:03:06pm |
re: #131 loppyd
My auntie had a Maverick. I was riding in it in Maine when they announced that Elvis was dead.
Who's Elvis?
/
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:03:11pm |
re: #99 debutaunt
Equal credit to design and crappy manufacture. A perfect plan to lose our top standing.
* * *
Michigan's problem (like democrats') was expecting the proletariat to keep buying poorly designed, crappily manufactured products, AS IF there weren't competitition available.
ONE United Auto Workers
ONE national healthcareprovider
ONE national teachersunion
ONE green global climate administration
They were shocked, shocked, anyone came up with better products for less $$.
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:03:16pm |
re: #124 redstateredneck
Aw, shucks...and here I'd always thought you were a lot younger than me... :)
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:03:22pm |
re: #109 tfc3rid
My family had a 1973 Ford Maverick when I was growing up...
It was stolen from in front of my home in 1993...
I guarantee you it is still running.
My good bud in high school had one, and her parents said she could get a new car as soon as that one wore out.
You. Cannot. Kill. Them.
We tried.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:15pm |
re: #37 Adrenalyn
no, worse
The Pinto II
The Vega II
The K Car II
I had a Vega, along with a couple of friends who had the same model-year. WORST CAR EVER MADE. All of our cars died beyond repair within 4 weeks of each other, approximately 3 years to the date after purchase.
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razorbacker Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:19pm |
That could be me on the right of that picture. Except the hair isn't long enough. And I don't see either a beer or doobie. Never mind, it probably isn't me circa 1976.
Ol' Jimmah Cahtah was a trickster, he was. I actually voted for him in '76. In my defense, it was only my second time to vote for POTUS, and that Nixon vote didn't seem to have worked out so well. JC sure enough brought change. A recession and inflation at the same time, dayum who woulda thought that possible. Chunk a decades long ally to the wolves in favor of a radical Mussulman cleric, which didn't work out so well for the sovereign territory of the US embassy. Asking your middle school daughter about what to do with all those nasty nukes, worked fine (for a fool). Lusting in his heart, and then not having enough sense not to mention it to Playboy. Gas lines and shortages. Chased down by a killer rabbit (did Monty Python steal that bit?). I don't blame JC for Billy, but who would have guessed that Billy would turn out to be the smarter Carter?
But I remember ol' JC alright. A Navy man, a nuclear scientist (not really), farmer, governor, salt-of-the-earth type guy.
And a moonbat. A barking, raving, howling-at-the-moon type bat. Kinda like the pale glimmer of the coming Obama.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:23pm |
re: #131 loppyd
My auntie had a Maverick. I was riding in it in Maine when they announced that Elvis was dead.
The timing is about the same. Elvis died the summer I was married!
Got the car the next spring.
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:26pm |
re: #128 Kosh's Shadow
I thought of buying one used years ago. But when I put it in drive, it wouldn't go. Went fine in reverse.
Didn't buy it.
That's too funny! Last week a carload of high school kids drove by my house in reverse.
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zmdavid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:33pm |
I think they're more likely to bring back the Maverick if McCain gets elected.
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Mardukhai Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:35pm |
I met Jimmy in '76 at the Young Democrats Convention in St. Louis. I thought he was an amiable nobody.
I was right about the latter, wrong about the former. Or maybe he's just a crazy old man.
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Spider Mensch Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:43pm |
one thing of the seventies I remember fondly...you could balance pencils on those babies...
[Link: www.blog.speculist.com...]
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:04:57pm |
re: #135 tfc3rid
I've gone to his cousin's concerts, twice-annually, lately...pretty good music... :)
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:05:05pm |
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:05:09pm |
re: #89 lawhawk
Occasionally lizards will call Carter senile. He is not. He's always been a dimwit.
John Warner, on the other hand, has definitely lost a good chunk of gray matter, not to mention testosterone.
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:05:19pm |
re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My parents even had a ceramic peanut with that grin on it. Sat on their what-not shelf for years. Think it got broken. Accidently, I'm sure.
I'm sorry - I broke it.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:05:25pm |
re: #137 Ma Sands
Aw, shucks...and here I'd always thought you were a lot younger than me... :)
Ma, we'se young at heart!
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:05:27pm |
re: #12 savage_nation
Oooo, Savage... Tell us how you really feel! LOL.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:05:59pm |
re: #138 Silhouette
I guarantee you it is still running.
My good bud in high school had one, and her parents said she could get a new car as soon as that one wore out.
You. Cannot. Kill. Them.
We tried.
It's probably being used as a taxi in Venezuela...
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Opinionated Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:06:23pm |
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
And they are really really stupid.
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ccrnyc Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:06:28pm |
In the end, all I want, is the outcome to be the same as it was in 1980, a resounding Republican victory.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:07:14pm |
re: #150 debutaunt
Don't be sorry. I am quite sure you didn't break it.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:07:16pm |
re: #157 ccrnyc
In the end, all I want, is the outcome to be the same as it was in 1980, a resounding Republican victory.
Amen to that!
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:07:24pm |
re: #104 jorline
re: #129 ethanxxx
The progressive left has been throwing the accusation of "NAZI" at the republicans for years. There isn't a Damn thing wrong with throwing it back at them. The majority of these historically challenged fools no nothing about Nazism, most don't even know that the word means National Socialist... the exact goal of their own party. In my educated opinion, the only other organization that comes close to paralleling the Nazi Party besides Democrats would be Islam, which is probably why they are such close allies.
Sorry, but did your mommy ever say " if your friend jumped off the roof, would you?" It is wrong no matter who does it.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:07:31pm |
re: #144 zmdavid
I think they're more likely to bring back the Maverick if McCain gets elected.
Speaking of that... Ever since he became the GOP Nominee, I haven't heard that term used to describe Senator McCain at all...
Hmmm... Wonder why that is?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:07:49pm |
Here's why Obama is loved by the young:
Young adults experience news fatigue from being inundated by facts and updates and have trouble accessing in-depth stories, according to a study to be unveiled at a global media conference Monday.
Read the whole thing.
"Change" and "Hope" ? Cool.
What's that other dude saying? Man, that takes too long to listen to.
/young idiot mode off
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:07:55pm |
re: #142 redstateredneck
The timing is about the same. Elvis died the summer I was married!
Got the car the next spring.
I was nine years shy of driving legally.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:08:04pm |
re: #120 jorline
parents had several Ramblers as well...no wonder I'm so screwed-up now...my whole childhood was spent in crappy cars.
We had a Rambler, a '66 American 440 4-door, with the 232 2-barrel "Torque Command" six, with 155 screaming horsepower. And the crappy Borg-Warner automatic. The factory air conditioner (semi-underdash) had the "Desert Only" setting on the thermostat knob, which we always put it on. Ironically the styling holds up better than the '66 Nova, Falcon, or Valiant.
God only knows how I managed to pass parallel parking on my driving test in that car, with its manual steering and 6-1/2 turns lock-to-lock. I had never parallel parked the thing before, and did my behind-the-wheel in a automatic Datsun B-210.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:08:17pm |
re: #144 zmdavid
I think they're more likely to bring back the Maverick if McCain gets elected.
* * *
You may be right, McCain mostly drives American cars.
His 96-year old mother is the one with the red BMW, Jaguar before that, Mercedes another time...
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:09:04pm |
re: #105 Ma Sands
Either that, or they must be pretty new...
Well, 1. I am on the Do-Not-Call List, and they're not supposed to call me. 2. When I hit "0" for the operator, the phone call suddenly ended.
Hence why I think it's not legit.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:09:08pm |
re: #163 Kosh's Shadow
Here's why Obama is loved by the young:
Read the whole thing.
"Change" and "Hope" ? Cool.
What's that other dude saying? Man, that takes too long to listen to.
/young idiot mode off
My 18 year old says she gets car sick if she rides with me and I have news or talk radio on.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:09:11pm |
re: #163 Kosh's Shadow
Understanding the reasons why the IslamoFascists want to kill us just takes too much time...
Back to Grand Theft Auto IV!
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:09:29pm |
re: #145 Mardukhai
I met Jimmy in '76 at the Young Democrats Convention in St. Louis. I thought he was an amiable nobody.
I was right about the latter, wrong about the former. Or maybe he's just a crazy old man.
Unfortunately, crazy old men can cause a lot of trouble. Jimmy and his "noble elders" are a bunch of crazy coots.
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:09:39pm |
It means what it means. Change means not the Bushs or Clintons, who have been in the WH for 18 years.
"that you can believe in" is playing off the Clinton impeachment for lying and the "Bush lied" meme.
Obama's slogan is about what he is not, not what he is.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:09:47pm |
re: #167 Honorary Yooper
Well, 1. I am on the Do-Not-Call List, and they're not supposed to call me. 2. When I hit "0" for the operator, the phone call suddenly ended.
Hence why I think it's not legit.
I doubt it is legit...
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:09:51pm |
If anything todays democrats are more like NEVILE CHAMBERLAIN than hitler in there defeatism, appeasement and isolationism. and frankly obama foolishness will allow the Iranians mullahs to get and try to use a nuke. John McCain gets that and if that were the only reason i agreed with John it would be enough for me to support him. no point to use the Nazi or nazicrat baloney, it belittles what my wife's and my step fathers families went through. SO PLEASE STOP IT.
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zombie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:10:16pm |
Tech question for anyone who knows about these things:
This is a problem that has been driving me nuts for years, and I've never found a solution. It has to do with video editing.
I take a video with my digital camera. Upload to my computer. It's in "AVI" format. I want to upload it to YouTube. However, there is (for example) a three-second part at the end of the minute-long video that I want o chop off (because the camera jiggles or a car horn honks or something like that).
Is there any way to just "lop it off" while maintaining the format and file size?
Up until now, I've been using "iMovie" which comes with Macs. I "import" the video clip to iMovie, and I can lop off the last three seconds easily enough. But then my problem arises. iMovie doesn't alter the original movie file: it creates a new one. What I do is choose "export" or "share" (depending on which version of iMovie you use), and then one must select from a bewildering variety of options to export a new video -- with those last three seconds lopped off. I choose "Expert Settings" and then can export back to an AVI file easily enough. But here's the problem: The resulting video is always LOWER quality and yet MUCH LARGER file size.
Furthermore, I've experimented with all of the various formats and options iMovie allows you to export to, and they all present some sort of problem: either YouTube won't accept the format, or it creates a video with a gigantic file size, or it's low-quality, or a combination of those three. I've tried just about every possible export-format that iMovie has, and determined that "AVI" format with "Cinepak" compression is the best compromise: YouTube accepts it, the file size is only moderately huge, and the quality is slightly better than unacceptable.
But why must this be so? Isn't there a way to simply chop off the last three seconds without having to totally degrade the video quality and make a huge file? Seems like such a simple request. Shouldn't I end up with a video with a smaller file size, since it's shorter? But I've never found a program that can do that. I just want to take a pair of virtual scissors and chop off the last three seconds of film. Should that be so hard?
iMovie is overkill for my purposes, allowing all sorts of effects and subtitles and fancy editing and so forth. I just want something simple that produces high-quality videos with small file sizes. Does anybody know of a program (for Mac, obviously) or technique that can allow me to do this?
Thanks. And now back to your regular programming.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:10:21pm |
re: #164 loppyd
I was nine years shy of driving legally.
See, I'm old enough to be your really cool auntie!
;-)
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:10:24pm |
re: #86 madisonsfriend
Wrath, I agree with you. I find it beyond offensive when people decide to call others they don't like Nazis. Democrats are not Nazis and I even am offended by someone suggesting that the Democratic party be outlawed. This is America and half of our population are not Nazis. My father and my uncles fought in WWII - they knew(all passed on now) what the Nazis were about and what they did- even more so because we are Jewish. I guess the person who started this really doesn't know what the Nazis did- or is not affected by it enough to refrain from throwing the word "Nazi" around.
I also completely agree.
I should have made it clear, I only pretend to be Mario Andretti.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:10:33pm |
re: #168 redstateredneck
What do you expect from the consumer, TV, Computer, Instant Message, Text Message, quick, fast, now, sound bite, marketed to, generation?
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:10:34pm |
I remember seeing Jimmy Carter campaign in 1976 when he rode down 5th Avenue surrounded by Hamilton Jordan and thinking "This guy is a weird looking dude."
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:10:37pm |
re: #98 tfc3rid
I think you are being too kind to todays batch of college age liberals. The problem with that is that Dhimmi C. has forced himself back on the world stage with his anti-Israel diatribe and his "negotiation" with terrorists. One need not remember the 70's to know that Carter is a pile of shit.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:11:03pm |
re: #149 wolfie
Occasionally lizards will call Carter senile. He is not. He's always been a dimwit.
John Warner, on the other hand, has definitely lost a good chunk of gray matter, not to mention testosterone.
* * *
There's nothing DIMwit about Carter. He let America and our allies down intentionally, for the "best" of reasons, because we weren't worth fighting for in his/democrats' book.
Carter wanted the respect of those who will never respect us and he tried to earn it by tearing us down to paper lion.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:11:27pm |
re: #88 Honorary Yooper
Ugh, nightmare of nightmares, it's Dhimmi Carter.
OT: Has anyone here gotten a call from a place called "Fortress Credit" asking you to authorize a $10,000 credit limit? They have one of those 877 numbers and called me about 1/2 hour ago. As I am on the Do-Not-Call List, I just reported them so they can be investigated.
It was very odd, as I've never filled out any paperwork for them.
/I think it's a scam.
I have gotten several calls recently from "877" numbers - actually, there are 2 that keep calling me. I am also on the do-not-call list, but I could find no listing for these numbers so I don't know who it is that is calling.
Contacted the phone company to see what they could do to help me get rid of these calls - nada.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:12:10pm |
re: #133 WrathofG-d
no, I read them (and this can serve as a reply to them as well)
(and thanks for being civil in disagreement)
but even though the democrats have not been killing people (well, except the Clintons - if you belive 'those' rumors)
I still think their policies mimic the early Nazi's
and would hate to see them get a real stranglehold on our society
the Nazi's did the same thing in Germany
and I don't think those who voted them in
forsaw the horrors they would bring
though I see horrors in the current Democrat party coming on
just not coming about the same way
but the end result could be the same
lots of people dead
worldwide misery and hatred
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:12:19pm |
re: #182 reine.de.tout
I got two calls for credit type things on my cell phone! Luckily, they were voice mail
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:12:22pm |
re: #179 Creeping Eruption
I think you are being too kind to todays batch of college age liberals. The problem with that is that Dhimmi C. has forced himself back on the world stage with his anti-Israel diatribe and his "negotiation" with terrorists. One need not remember the 70's to know that Carter is a pile of shit.
True but do they perhaps just see him as a former US President and nothing else...
Maybe they miss the point that he is really shilling for the enemy...
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:12:30pm |
re: #140 reine.de.tout
I had a Vega, along with a couple of friends who had the same model-year. WORST CAR EVER MADE. All of our cars died beyond repair within 4 weeks of each other, approximately 3 years to the date after purchase.
I've had two Vegas, a '75 in high school, and a '76 in the '80s and '90s. Amazingly, the '76 (GT, 5-speed) went 218k without the head ever being off, and I got $750 for it in '96. The last I heard of it, it had been sold to a collector in Lubbock.
Keep in mind I'm in Texas, and cars don't rust here. My '76 still had the original exhaust system on it, with no rust out.
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Opinionated Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:12:45pm |
With Obama I am reminded of another candidacy.
It was also supposed to usher in change. Bring a new day with the election of the first Black.
The Times was besides themselves with joy when he was elected.
Change came.
Including the first pogrom in America.
The hope, then, was David Dinkins.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:12:45pm |
re: #174 zombie
My initial thought was Windows MovieMaker. Not sure if you have access to Windows box though. I think it came as part of the basic OS package with XP media center edition.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:01pm |
re: #164 loppyd
Elvis died on my fifteenth birthday. The same day my future wife and her family moved to town.
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:05pm |
re: #161 madisonsfriend
re: #129 ethanxxx
Sorry, but did your mommy ever say " if your friend jumped off the roof, would you?" It is wrong no matter who does it.
What does that have to do with the VW Thing? Did I miss something?
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:12pm |
re: #163 Kosh's Shadow
Here's why Obama is loved by the young:
Young adults experience news fatigue from being inundated by facts and updates and have trouble accessing in-depth stories, according to a study to be unveiled at a global media conference Monday.
Remember when young people were BETTER at learning new things than old dogs?
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:15pm |
re: #12 savage_nation
We now may be seeing the denouement of the Democratic party, and the opening of the door to the formation of a real 3rd 2nd party.
How can the Democrats survive this debacle?
Squaking "every vote most count" for 8 years and then seating 1/2 the votes from two states ...
And on and on
It is to laugh.
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:17pm |
re: #53 Adrenalyn
you forgot to channel Ricardo Montalban...
KHAN!
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:18pm |
re: #170 madisonsfriend
Unfortunately, crazy old men can cause a lot of trouble. Jimmy and his "noble elders" are a bunch of crazy coots.
* * *
Nothing crazy here, but standard democrat talking points.
Carter's policies are STILL considered great by his party, though the American people fired Carter and his lousy policies for the pain they caused us. We did not know just how expensive in lives, blood, toil, sweat and tears and dollars and oil the Carter years would be.
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maddogg Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:19pm |
Seeing all these comments about the cars we drove when Jimmah was running for POTUS, reminded me I had a VW beetle, vintage 1968 (this was 1974-5). So many lizards had inexpensive cars when we were kids. I don't remember seeing kids in College with fancy cars like I see now. I think that points to one of the symptoms of our current problems. I had an old bug, some had Mavericks or Pintos or Novas. I see many new and expensive cars in College parking lots these days. WE ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM if we contribute to our children thinking they deserve a new vehicle. Like us, they should earn the right to a new vehicle, and the payments to go with it. IMHO.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:24pm |
re: #182 reine.de.tout
I have gotten several calls recently from "877" numbers - actually, there are 2 that keep calling me. I am also on the do-not-call list, but I could find no listing for these numbers so I don't know who it is that is calling.
Contacted the phone company to see what they could do to help me get rid of these calls - nada.
Well, I reported the number to the Do-Not-Call Registry. If the Feds get enough complaints, they'll investigate. I Googled this particular number, and it's got a ton of complaints on-line.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:27pm |
re: #175 redstateredneck
See, I'm old enough to be your really cool auntie!
;-)
That's my role now.
Took the two littlest girls to Build-a-Bear this weekend. What a hoot!
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:35pm |
re: #182 reine.de.tout
those companies are in Canada or the Carbbean
and outside "our" laws
yet pay very cheap phone rates
they won't go away
no need getting angry
there is nothing you can do but get irritated
and it's not worth the effort
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:35pm |
I traded in my '68 SS Camero for a 1973 lime green Vega, cuz I was getting married and needed a "family" car. I should have known better. Turned in the Vega for a 280Z in 1975 just about the same time as the wife.
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beblebrox Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:13:43pm |
re: #174 zombie
i use tmpgenc a lot. a good source to learn about video editing and get pointed at software is both [Link: www.vcdhelp.com...] and [Link: www.doom9.org...] a lot has to do with what default codec you are using to encode with. choosing different ones can result in dramatic changes in file size and quality.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:14:01pm |
re: #187 Opinionated
With Obama I am reminded of another candidacy.
It was also supposed to usher in change. Bring a new day with the election of the first Black.
The Times was besides themselves with joy when he was elected.
Change came.
Including the first pogrom in America.
The hope, then, was David Dinkins.
re: #187 Opinionated
With Obama I am reminded of another candidacy.
It was also supposed to usher in change. Bring a new day with the election of the first Black.
The Times was besides themselves with joy when he was elected.
Change came.
Including the first pogrom in America.
The hope, then, was David Dinkins.
And that worked out so well! Tennis anyone?
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:14:46pm |
I hope the Democrats will give Jimmy Carter a prime time speaking spot at the convention and he makes some Israel bashing comments - maybe American Jews will wake up. On second thought I doubt that most American Jews will be swayed as they are reflexive Liberals (alas) but the many philo-Semitic non Jews out there will get a reminder about the stakes in this coming election.
Yesterday at the Israel Day Parade in Manhattan I got to curse out the Neturei Karta low-lives which made me feel really good after a hellish week at work!
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:14:46pm |
re: #197 loppyd
That's my role now.
Took the two littlest girls to Build-a-Bear this weekend. What a hoot!
Who had the most fun...you or them?
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:15:07pm |
re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Elvis died on my fifteenth birthday. The same day my future wife and her family moved to town.
One day after my brother's b-day...we were in Maine to celebrate.
I guess it was also a very lucky day for you!
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:15:10pm |
re: #190 jorline
What does that have to do with the VW Thing? Did I miss something?
jorline said the left has been calling the republicans Nazis for years so it is okay if people here call Dems Nazis. My earlier posts/Wrath of God and Yochanan explain our objections to the use of the word nazi in this context
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:15:26pm |
re: #199 Viking6
I traded in my '68 SS Camero for a 1973 lime green Vega, cuz I was getting married and needed a "family" car. I should have known better. Turned in the Vega for a 280Z in 1975 just about the same time as the wife.
My mom had a lime green Vega.
Uglay!
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:15:52pm |
re: #165 Ward Cleaver
a automatic Datsun B-210.
HAH! Our '79 B210 was a five-speed. I loved that little skateboard.
Dad followed it up two years later with a 1980 rental fleet B210 with an automatic. What a joke! You could not make that car accelerate...literally unable to get on a freeway!
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:15:54pm |
re: #204 redstateredneck
Who had the most fun...you or them?
Them, but not by much.
Then we went to Friendly's...what a madhouse on a Sat! I had no idea.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:16:09pm |
re: #53 Adrenalyn
you forgot to channel Ricardo Montalban...
Worked a puzzle once and the result was this quote...
Ricardo Montalban is to improvisational acting what Mount Rushmore is to animation.
Still remember that one. I forget most of them.
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Opinionated Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:16:13pm |
re: #174 zombie
VirtualDub or VirtualDubmod if you can run Windows apps. Freeware
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Endangered in MASS Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:16:37pm |
re: #104 jorline
A remake of the WWII Kubelwagon.
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'Nam Grunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:16:50pm |
You guys are forgetting about that fine piece of machinery from GM the Chevy Corvair, I was almost killed in one of them when I was a teenager. LOL
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:17:09pm |
re: #183 Adrenalyn
Ok so we disagree, and I hope for America's sake that you are wrong.
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ethanxxx Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:17:12pm |
re: #161 madisonsfriend
Sorry, but did your mommy ever say " if your friend jumped off the roof, would you?" It is wrong no matter who does it.
I jump off roofs because I want to, not because someone else does. And it's not wrong if you're right. I've studied the rise and fall of Nazi Germany and I can clearly see parallels in other groups and religions. Or... maybe I should read WrathofG-d's Mario Andretti analogy over & over again until it makes sense.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:17:12pm |
re: #205 loppyd
Well, she seems to think so. Heh.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:17:24pm |
re: #203 Joel
I hope the Democrats will give Jimmy Carter a prime time speaking spot at the convention and he makes some Israel bashing comments - maybe American Jews will wake up. On second thought I doubt that most American Jews will be swayed as they are reflexive Liberals (alas) but the many philo-Semitic non Jews out there will get a reminder about the stakes in this coming election.
Yesterday at the Israel Day Parade in Manhattan I got to curse out the Neturei Karta low-lives which made me feel really good after a hellish week at work!
The NKs didn't show up at the Israel celebration in DC but i am not sure that any of them live near here.
Carter- Kiss of Death.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:17:35pm |
Senator Kennedy out of surgery
DURHAM, N.C. -- Senator Edward M. Kennedy's surgery today for a malignant brain tumor achieved its objectives, and he will experience no permanent neurological effects from the delicate procedure, his surgeon at Duke University Medical Center said this afternoon.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:17:50pm |
re: #185 tfc3rid
Probably. If you can't cram it down their throats in a 15 second sound bite, they aren't going to get it.
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imtoast Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:18:00pm |
Well, that ad didn't lie. There were multiple changes when that POS became president. Unfortunately, none of the changes were for the good. I didn't vote for him and I won't vote for Bambi either. Their kind of change will kill us.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:18:13pm |
re: #106 alegrias
* * *
Lucky you! Everyone wanted to ride in those bugs with sunroofs--Schiebedachs in german.
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razorbacker Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:18:18pm |
re: #186 Ward Cleaver
I've had two Vegas, a '75 in high school, and a '76 in the '80s and '90s. Amazingly, the '76 (GT, 5-speed) went 218k without the head ever being off, and I got $750 for it in '96. The last I heard of it, it had been sold to a collector in Lubbock.
Keep in mind I'm in Texas, and cars don't rust here. My '76 still had the original exhaust system on it, with no rust out.
The very best thing about Vegas was that the I-4 came right out and a 327 would slip right in. If you hid the other tailpipe so it didn't show, wouldn't let the competition look under the hood, and didn't start the thing until the bet was made, you could do quite well at those impromptu drag races that seemed to break out.
That wasn't me, that was that evil Winkle boy.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:18:21pm |
re: #216 'Nam Grunt
You guys are forgetting about that fine piece of machinery from GM the Chevy Corvair, I was almost killed in one of them when I was a teenager. LOL
Had a boyfriend who had one.
:-X
That's all I'm sayin'.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:18:28pm |
re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Elvis died on my fifteenth birthday. The same day my future wife and her family moved to town.
I was on my lunch break from work (first job in high school), driving my mom's Rambler, when I heard about Elvis's death, on the radio. When I got back to work, I told my co-workers, and of course they didn't believe it.
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:18:29pm |
re: #92 loppyd
We had a VW Bug and a Chevy Nova...
The bug had pleather seats and a crank sunroof.
Ah, the 70s - crappy cars, tacky clothes, disco, disaster movies, Jimmy Carter. Ya gotta love it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:19:00pm |
You know, you guys are so much smarter than I am.
I am LGF's version of Earth's definition in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy".
After the concert tonight, I am going to focus on getting mad about something!
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:19:03pm |
I got cut off. The worst car ever - a 1961 Rambler that my parents bought.
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JustMyView Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:19:07pm |
re: #129 ethanxxx
The progressive left has been throwing the accusation of "NAZI" at the republicans for years. There isn't a Damn thing wrong with throwing it back at them. The majority of these historically challenged fools no nothing about Nazism, most don't even know that the word means National Socialist... the exact goal of their own party. In my educated opinion, the only other organization that comes close to paralleling the Nazi Party besides Democrats would be Islam, which is probably why they are such close allies.
That both Repubs and Dems use it to insult each other is evidence that it's not being used in a meaningful way by either group. It's just hurling insults, as others in this thread have said.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:19:16pm |
re: #218 ethanxxx
Guess what- I've studied too- I did graduate work in history. You go and jump.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:19:29pm |
re: #195 maddogg
Seeing all these comments about the cars we drove when Jimmah was running for POTUS, reminded me I had a VW beetle, vintage 1968 (this was 1974-5). So many lizards had inexpensive cars when we were kids. I don't remember seeing kids in College with fancy cars like I see now. I think that points to one of the symptoms of our current problems. I had an old bug, some had Mavericks or Pintos or Novas. I see many new and expensive cars in College parking lots these days. WE ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM if we contribute to our children thinking they deserve a new vehicle. Like us, they should earn the right to a new vehicle, and the payments to go with it. IMHO.
* * *
True! My clever folks kept cars till they expired or were considered antiques. I was so embarassed as a teenager I refused to drive their 1957 bubble shaped Mercedes Benz with the standard transmission and gear on the steering wheel, which no one had heard of or seen in this area anyway, before the foreign car influx!
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:19:56pm |
re: #140 reine.de.tout
I had a Vega, along with a couple of friends who had the same model-year. WORST CAR EVER MADE. All of our cars died beyond repair within 4 weeks of each other, approximately 3 years to the date after purchase.
hate to top you (so I politely apologize, in advance)
the wife and I had a Jeep Cherokee die the day we night it in 1984
on the way home from the dealer
pow !
thank you to Lee Iacocca and Chysler
and Dhimmi for bailing them out
and me for being stupid enough to buy the thing
and not reading Consumer Reports auto review issue
was 15 years before I drove another American car after that debacle
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:19:59pm |
re: #195 maddogg
When I turned 16 I asked my dad if I could get a car. He said "Sure, get a job and buy one." My how times have changed.
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:20:07pm |
re: #96 joncelli
Nonono, it's pronounced "Reech Coreeenthian layther." (Khaaan!)
And you have to roll the Rs - "Corrreeethian".
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:20:07pm |
re: #182 reine.de.tout
I have gotten several calls recently from "877" numbers - actually, there are 2 that keep calling me. I am also on the do-not-call list, but I could find no listing for these numbers so I don't know who it is that is calling.
Contacted the phone company to see what they could do to help me get rid of these calls - nada.
I have found that I can often find out something by Googling 877-xxx-xxx. The links often are to sites that discuss these calls, so you can find out who they are, and how obnoxious they are.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:20:10pm |
re: #229 cygnus
Ah, the 70s - crappy cars, tacky clothes, disco, disaster movies, Jimmy Carter. Ya gotta love it.
The three worst fashion items from the 1970's
1. Bell bottom jeans
2. leisure suits
3. those big fat wide neck ties.
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:20:32pm |
re: #208 redstateredneck
No kidding, boy did I drink the kool aid on that one. My Camero had a 427 with all the goodies, low 11 high 10 on the strip. The Z car got really good gas mileage which was really helpful after Carter got elected.
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azul93gt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:20:48pm |
#50 Ward Cleaver 6/02/08 11:47:33 am
Fiestas were great rat-racers.
You may be thinking of the Fox based Ford Fairmont/Mercury Zephyr. Those cars are Badass with 5.0L or stroked Windsor.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:20:55pm |
re: #229 cygnus
Ah, the 70s - crappy cars, tacky clothes, disco, disaster movies, Jimmy Carter. Ya gotta love it.
I loved the Bug, hated the Nova.
I was a young kid so it all was groovy to me.
What's so tacky about embroidered jeans, Indian print tops and Dr. Scholl's anyway? :)
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:21:10pm |
1st car. The rocker arms were noisy so we put an overhead oiler on it.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:21:20pm |
re: #229 cygnus
Are you calling my bright red and blue striped trousers with the enormous bell bottoms tacky?
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:21:29pm |
re: #187 Opinionated
With Obama I am reminded of another candidacy.
It was also supposed to usher in change. Bring a new day with the election of the first Black.
The Times was besides themselves with joy when he was elected.
Change came.
Including the first pogrom in America.
The hope, then, was David Dinkins.
AAAHHH
NIGHTMARES!
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bill-tb Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:21:43pm |
re: #13 WrathofG-d
Or how about "we are the ones we've been waiting for". Comrade Obama is full of such inane oratory, sounds good to the kiddies. when spoken with a Harvard accent.
Collectivism, that Harvard speak for Communism.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:21:49pm |
During the first year of Jimmy Carter's presidency I had a 1973 Chevy Nova. A better drive then his rotten presidency!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:22:09pm |
My kids are making me dress appropriately tonight. Can't wear my Reagan shirt.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:22:25pm |
re: #209 OldLineTexan
HAH! Our '79 B210 was a five-speed. I loved that little skateboard.
Dad followed it up two years later with a 1980 rental fleet B210 with an automatic. What a joke! You could not make that car accelerate...literally unable to get on a freeway!
I floored that automatic B-210 getting on the freeway in Dallas (with the A/C on, too). What a hoot. 0-60? Eventually. Later, I had a girlfriend that had a B-210 hatchback with a 5-speed. When you put it into reverse, it beeped (inside the car). Great gas mileage, though, out of that 1.4l pushrod four.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:22:35pm |
re: #242 loppyd
What's so tacky about embroidered jeans, Indian print tops and Dr. Scholl's anyway? :)
And (what all you guys seem to have forgotten) NO BRAS! ! !
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:22:45pm |
re: #239 Joel
The three worst fashion items from the 1970's
1. Bell bottom jeans
2. leisure suits
3. those big fat wide neck ties.
wait, they were offset by HOT PANTS
and sizzler mini skirts
oh, and Farah Fawcett
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:23:04pm |
re: #229 cygnus
Ah, the 70s - crappy cars, tacky clothes, disco, disaster movies, Jimmy Carter. Ya gotta love it.
If Carter II wins, it won't matter how bad the cars are.
No one will be afford the gas to drive them, what with the carbon credits, and the jizzya.
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beblebrox Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:23:10pm |
as it turns out the 1st vehicle i had when i was 16 was a hand me down 1966 Jeep CJ5 that was 18 years old at the time. my parents thought that i would stay out of trouble with such a mundane vehicle. little did they realize that a topless jeep on a warm summer day was an absolute "chick magnet" when you are 16. that thing got me in so much trouble i was banned from driving to school.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:23:20pm |
Tackiest TV show from the Carter era - "The Love Boat" where all the has-beens and people we thought were dead would turn up.
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loppyd Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:23:22pm |
re: #250 redstateredneck
And (what all you guys seem to have forgotten) NO BRAS! ! !
For me anyway! LOL
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:23:34pm |
re: #243 Ojoe
1st car. The rocker arms were noisy so we put an overhead oiler on it.
Dad had a dark blue one; the very earliest car I can remember. I remember when he had seat belts installed, and how he wouldn't start the car until we had all put them on in the driveway. They were actual metal buckles, and they were hot as hell in summer.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:23:56pm |
re: #229 cygnus
Ah, the 70s - crappy cars, tacky clothes, disco, disaster movies, Jimmy Carter. Ya gotta love it.
* * *
Down comforters! Heat turned off in bedrooms!
No airconditioning, because President Carter asked us to sacrifice.
My folks were such patriots, though Carter was leading us down the primrose path to laughable laughingstock weak-kneed country status. We pretended it was the great Depression, and IT WAS! The CARTER depression.
Jean Kirkpatrick was right, we were suffering no malaise, we were suffering from President Carter.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:24:02pm |
re: #246 bill-tb
"universal" the Leftist term for Socialized.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:24:41pm |
re: #236 Creeping Eruption
When I turned 16 I asked my dad if I could get a car. He said "Sure, get a job and buy one." My how times have changed.
I got one from relatives who had been driving my parents around. They didn't have driver's licenses, so I got the car so I could drive them around. My mother eventually got her license, my father never did.
Great deal for me, even if it was a '67 Chevy Nova with a Powerglide 2-speed transmission.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:24:42pm |
re: #255 Joel
Tackiest TV show from the Carter era - "The Love Boat" where all the has-beens and people we thought were dead would turn up.
And if they survived Love Boat, they were sure to show up later on Fantasy Island.
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RickZ Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:24:42pm |
re: #216 'Nam Grunt
You guys are forgetting about that fine piece of machinery from GM the Chevy Corvair, I was almost killed in one of them when I was a teenager. LOL
Didn't the Corvair have the automatic shift push-buttons on the dash, to the right of the sterring wheel? Whoever thought that design feature up was a real [deleted].
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:24:45pm |
re: #251 Adrenalyn
wait, they were offset by HOT PANTS
and sizzler mini skirts
oh, and Farah Fawcett
Hot pants really were a 1960's item (I think).
Leisure suits though were the pits. My father bought a lot of them and tried to get me to buy them but in my precocious wisdom I said "Hell no, I will never be seen wearing them."
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:24:48pm |
re: #249 Ward Cleaver
I floored that automatic B-210 getting on the freeway in Dallas (with the A/C on, too). What a hoot. 0-60? Eventually. Later, I had a girlfriend that had a B-210 hatchback with a 5-speed. When you put it into reverse, it beeped (inside the car). Great gas mileage, though, out of that 1.4l pushrod four.
I "inherited" the 79 with the 5-speed in 1982 as a college kid. I used to get 37 mpg mixed, 42+ on the road to see my girlfriend at school.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:25:11pm |
re: #252 madisonsfriend
what concert?
Boy, am I glad you asked.
Alison Krauss and Robert Plant.
My Reagan shirt there would probably go over like a...a...a...Led Zeppelin?
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:25:19pm |
re: #253 Kosh's Shadow
Flintstone powered vehicles(i know someone posted the Youtube of this recently- but i don't know how)
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:25:23pm |
re: #263 RickZ
Didn't the Corvair have the automatic shift push-buttons on the dash, to the right of the sterring wheel? Whoever thought that design feature up was a real [deleted].
The ultimate death trap - the Ford Pinto!
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:25:25pm |
re: #250 redstateredneck
And (what all you guys seem to have forgotten) NO BRAS! ! !
Well, yeah, I didn't need one then, so there!
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:25:31pm |
re: #257 OldLineTexan
The old belts, you could cinch them down tight.
I note that NASCAR racers have no air bags.
If we had real seat belts/harnesses, we wouldn't need air bags.
But no, we gottsa be able to wiggle around when we drive.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:25:55pm |
re: #262 redstateredneck
And if they survived Love Boat, they were sure to show up later on Fantasy Island.
Or are now headlining at Branson, MO.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:01pm |
re: #255 Joel
Tackiest TV show from the Carter era - "The Love Boat" where all the has-beens and people we thought were dead would turn up.
No doubt. And nobody ever watched it. But it was in the top ten every week.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:03pm |
re: #264 Joel
Hot pants really were a 1960's item (I think).
Leisure suits though were the pits. My father bought a lot of them and tried to get me to buy them but in my precocious wisdom I said "Hell no, I will never be seen wearing them."
if you say so
but can I have a substitution please ?
how about platform shoes ?
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:05pm |
re: #269 OldLineTexan
Well, yeah, I didn't need one then, so there!
Choking on my lunch!
;-P
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:18pm |
re: #241 azul93gt
#50 Ward Cleaver 6/02/08 11:47:33 am
Fiestas were great rat-racers.You may be thinking of the Fox based Ford Fairmont/Mercury Zephyr. Those cars are Badass with 5.0L or stroked Windsor.
Nope, the original Fiestas, front-wheel-drive, with the 1.6l "Kent" four. I had a couple of friends that owned the base cars, and a cousin had a Ghia (top of the line, such as it was).
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:24pm |
re: #186 Ward Cleaver
I've had two Vegas, a '75 in high school, and a '76 in the '80s and '90s. Amazingly, the '76 (GT, 5-speed) went 218k without the head ever being off, and I got $750 for it in '96. The last I heard of it, it had been sold to a collector in Lubbock.
Keep in mind I'm in Texas, and cars don't rust here. My '76 still had the original exhaust system on it, with no rust out.
Well, I'm next door in Louisiana. On ours, the engine block cracked (or something) in all of these cars, and they just could not be repaired. I don't recall what year they were - the 1st or 2nd year they were made.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:32pm |
re: #247 Joel
During the first year of Jimmy Carter's presidency I had a 1973 Chevy Nova. A better drive then his rotten presidency!
* * *
No Va in Spanish means "doesn't work" or doesn't go!
Carter No Va
Obama No Va II
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tum Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:34pm |
Give him a break. He was talking about a change in Iran and he delivered.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:38pm |
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE MODERN DEMOCATIC PARTY but i would worry more about the ron paulians and the troothers as both of these groups seem to have 'fascistic tendencies' BUT to call eather american party nazi or fascist just shows how little the person doing the calling really understands what nazism, fascism or stalinism really were and what they did. i will not continue beating this dead horse but i think i will down ding any one using the code words of nazi, nazicrat, or stalinist. Using the term appeaser, isolationist, or defeatist is much closer to the truth and ok.
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:42pm |
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:45pm |
"Change" and "Hope" are profoundly stupid slogans for anything - especially politics.
"Change" - Uh, yeah, that's what an election is. FYI. A scheduled change.
"Hope" - for what, exactly? If there's no hope for change, then we wouldn't be holding elections, would we?
What those two words really mean, as slogans, are "We have no frigging idea how to market ourselves, because we're intellectually bankrupt. We're relying on emotion, and we're going to rile you up into believing that something might get better, if you'd just give our guy your vote and/or money. Don't ask anything of us after the election, because we have no plan."
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maddogg Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:46pm |
re: #234 alegrias
* * *
True! My clever folks kept cars till they expired or were considered antiques. I was so embarassed as a teenager I refused to drive their 1957 bubble shaped Mercedes Benz with the standard transmission and gear on the steering wheel, which no one had heard of or seen in this area anyway, before the foreign car influx!
I still have my 1983 jeep j-10 4wd pickup truck I bought new in 1983. Though at a best mileage of 12mpg and on Super at that, I don't drive it much if at all. My current go-to-work car has 155,000+ miles on it and I expect it to go to 200,000. My motorcycle was bought new in 1992 and now has 100,000+ on the clock, and still going. Your parents were wise to drive them till the wheels came off, its the only way to get your moneys worth. When my dad went for a "new" car, he looked for a good clean used car with 20,000 or so on the clock. I do too.
My kids got me a T-shirt that says "embarrasing my children is just one of the services I offer", and I wore it out.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:26:47pm |
re: #266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm not sure that the audience would recognize his face(or the name- Reagan? hey, wasn't she in the Exorcist?)
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:27:07pm |
re: #266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Boy, am I glad you asked.
Alison Krauss and Robert Plant.
My Reagan shirt there would probably go over like a...a...a...Led Zeppelin?
Get a custom Che shirt with "Have you hugged a mass murderer today?" printed on the back.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:27:10pm |
re: #263 RickZ
Didn't the Corvair have the automatic shift push-buttons on the dash, to the right of the sterring wheel? Whoever thought that design feature up was a real [deleted].
No, that was various Chrysler products from the early 60's. The transmissions were banned after several accidents when people pushed forward instead of reverse, or vice-versa.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:27:14pm |
re: #262 redstateredneck
And if they survived Love Boat, they were sure to show up later on Fantasy Island.
LOL1 Yes that show followed it on Saturday night. I remember on one episode of Fantasy Island, Jack the Ripper showed up!
How about Saturday Night with Howard Cosell!
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JustMyView Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:27:14pm |
The idea that a non-incumbent would run on the idea of change is hardly surprising. After all, the point is to be different from whatever came before. GWB, as I recall, promised to "change the tone" when he came to Washington.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:27:34pm |
re: #277 alegrias
* * *
No Va in Spanish means "doesn't work" or doesn't go!Carter No Va
Obama No Va II
So solly. Urban Legend.
Made the same mistake a couple of weeks ago.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:02pm |
re: #271 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
My older daughter was at the Hard Rock Casino in Biloxi Saturday night and saw Stevie Nicks. She was able to walk right up to her and start a conversation.
Daughter, "Holy shit! You're Stevie Nicks."
Stevie: "Yeah, I am."
No bodyguards, nothin'. Blew my mind.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:06pm |
re: #281 Pawn of the Oppressor
"Change" and "Hope" are profoundly stupid slogans for anything - especially politics.
"
"Hope" - for what, exactly? If there's no hope for change, then we wouldn't be holding elections, would we?Didn't Bill come from Hope, Ark?
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:12pm |
re: #274 jcm
Choking on my lunch!
;-P
If someone lobs a zeppelin across the plate, I'm gonna take a swing. ;)
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:19pm |
re: #220 madisonsfriend
NK's usually live in NY. Since they are all intermarried there are not too many of them. Their headquarters is in MOnsey, NY.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:20pm |
re: #284 buzzsawmonkey
Hot pants were early '70s, about '71 or '72. Platform shoes dated from the same era.
ok, glad to hear it
now where is the link to a sample ?
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CowardKerry Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:26pm |
e: #83 WrathofG-d
Seriously, what in the world does; "Change You Can Believe In" mean?
It means the poor dumb bastards that vote for him will get an extra block of cheese, and the rest of us are going to get fucked.
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:31pm |
re: #251 Adrenalyn
Please do not forget the fab white shoes and belts
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:28:42pm |
re: #275 Ward Cleaver
Nope, the original Fiestas,
front-wheel-drive, with the 1.6l "Kent" four. I had a couple of friends
that owned the base cars, and a cousin had a Ghia (top of the line,
such as it was).
Ghia? I though the VW Karrman Ghia was the only car with that name?
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:29:01pm |
I know it's unrelated (maybe it isn't), but I just found this article on bbc about mugabe's visit to rome. check out the wonderful comments.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
the far left has completely lost it.
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tfc3rid Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:29:04pm |
re: #292 madisonsfriend
So did Huckabee (I think...)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:29:14pm |
re: #297 Viking6
Please do not forget the fab white shoes and belts
I had a pair of the shoes. Only pair I had, had to wear them to school one day in the sixth grade.
Prolly the worst day of my life.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:29:17pm |
re: #235 Adrenalyn
hate to top you (so I politely apologize, in advance)
the wife and I had a Jeep Cherokee die the day we night it in 1984
on the way home from the dealerpow !
thank you to Lee Iacocca and Chysler
and Dhimmi for bailing them out
and me for being stupid enough to buy the thing
and not reading Consumer Reports auto review issuewas 15 years before I drove another American car after that debacle
Yep, I know what you mean - I bought a Chevrolet Tahoe in 2000, and that was the first American-made car I had had since the Vega died in mid to late 70's.
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:29:39pm |
re: #199 Viking6
I traded in my '68 SS Camero for a 1973 lime green Vega, cuz I was getting married and needed a "family" car. I should have known better. Turned in the Vega for a 280Z in 1975 just about the same time as the wife.
I had a burnt-orange Chevy Chevette once. A total POS.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:29:40pm |
re: #260 madisonsfriend
Yes Fred (I forgot his last name) the purser who became Gopher did go to Congress from Tenn.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:29:57pm |
re: #255 Joel
Tackiest TV show from the Carter era - "The Love Boat" where all the has-beens and people we thought were dead would turn up.
* * *
Hush yo mouth. Mr. Grandy (had a funny name on that show) is now a terrific astute LIZARDLY conservative radio personality in Washington DC, on WMAL 630 am from 5am to 9am. Was a Harvard educated, congressional representative from Iowa at some point.
Brilliant, humorous, full of insights about Hollywood, leftism, Congress, real-politic, history, etc.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:30:06pm |
re: #238 Kosh's Shadow
I have found that I can often find out something by Googling 877-xxx-xxx. The links often are to sites that discuss these calls, so you can find out who they are, and how obnoxious they are.
I didn't think of doing google. I just used a reverse-phone number look-up. thanks for the tip.
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grumpy old codger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:30:08pm |
re: #286 Kosh's Shadow
Valiants were the first ones. Started with the 1960 year model.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:30:49pm |
re: #300 tfc3rid
So did Huckabee (I think...)
You're right.
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:30:49pm |
re: #208 redstateredneck
My mom had a lime green Vega.
Uglay!
And that's when eye bleach was first marketed.
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itellu3times Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:30:59pm |
Let's see ... I guess I drove a 1971 Fiat 124 sports coupe (hardtop) through the Carter administration. Nothing under the hood but 1600cc (or was it 1920cc?), no catalytic converter, just an afterburner. Carbueretor. Distributor w points. Solid rear axle. Wind wings.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:00pm |
re: #272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No doubt. And nobody ever watched it. But it was in the top ten every week.
Yes but that was because there was only 3 channels (ABC ,NBC, and CBS) to choose from
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:01pm |
re: #302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My sincerest apologizes. I never had them, only dad and his friends. I was in college so I wore bell bottoms, cowboy boots and Hawaiian shirts.
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:14pm |
re: #206 madisonsfriend
jorline said the left has been calling the republicans Nazis for years so it is okay if people here call Dems Nazis. My earlier posts/Wrath of God and Yochanan explain our objections to the use of the word nazi in this context
madison...Please provide the post in which I made these comments. Everything you've referenced so far has nothing to do with your post. Please play with facts only, madison!
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JustMyView Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:17pm |
The Republicans, too, are pushing the idea of change. The House Republicans adopted "The Change You Deserve" as a slogan. Too bad it was already being used to market Effexor, an antidepressant.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:43pm |
re: #273 Adrenalyn
if you say so
but can I have a substitution please ?how about platform shoes ?
THE WORST CLOTHING TREND I BOUGHT ONE OF WAS A NEHRU JACKET put it on twice and then tossed it into the garbage, i must have been stoned to have bought a gold and black paisley jacket after that i just bought levi' jackets
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DesertSage Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:46pm |
re: #306 Joel
Yes Fred (I forgot his last name) the purser who became Gopher did go to Congress from Tenn.
Fred Grandy. And it was Iowa.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:49pm |
re: #292 madisonsfriend
Didn't Bill come from Hope, Ark?
Don't remind me. "The Man from Hope"
cue soaring music, show image of young Billy C shaking hands with JFK*
*barf*
How the mighty have fallen... All because Brown beats Woman on the stage, and Chicago beats NY behind closed doors. Bill must be on his way to an aneurysm by now.
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:58pm |
re: #309 grumpy old codger
Valiants were the first ones. Started with the 1960 year model.
My dad had a Valiant with the push button auto trans. As a kid (3 or so) I would sit on his left between him and the door and get to push the buttons!
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:31:58pm |
re: #273 Adrenalyn
if you say so
but can I have a substitution please ?how about platform shoes ?
Not being a woman I did not think of them. Yeah it was always sort of funny to watch a 5'1" chick try to walk in them.
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:32:32pm |
I bought my first car in 1973. It was a 1961 Plymouth Valiant coupe with PUSH-BUTTON automatic transmission ! Cost me $100. Believe it or not, it was a great car, though I named him Rusty for a good reason.
I sold it for $100 in 1977, the day Elvis died. Heard about him on the radio on the way back from the DMV.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:32:46pm |
re: #307 alegrias
* * *
Hush
yo mouth. Mr. Grandy (had a funny name on that show) is now a terrific
astute LIZARDLY conservative radio personality in Washington DC, on
WMAL 630 am from 5am to 9am. Was a Harvard educated, congressional
representative from Iowa at some point.Brilliant, humorous, full of insights about Hollywood, leftism, Congress, real-politic, history, etc.
'tis Gopher of whom you speak. Funny thing that as liberal as Hollywood is, the celebrities who have won public office - Mr. Grandy, Sonny Bono (PBUH)- tend to be right-of-center.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:33:01pm |
re: #317 yochanan
Its about time jean jackets came back
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JammieWearingFool Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:33:05pm |
re: #316 JustMyView
The Republicans, too, are pushing the idea of change. The House Republicans adopted "The Change You Deserve" as a slogan. Too bad it was already being used to market Effexor, an antidepressant.
Actually it makes some sense considering how depressed the country will become if a Democrat is elected this November.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:33:16pm |
re: #306 Joel
Yes Fred (I forgot his last name) the purser who became Gopher did go to Congress from Tenn.
No. Iowa.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:33:16pm |
OK folks gotta run. Time to get ready for the CONCERT! Gonna be a crowd (I hope). Anyway, be nice to each other. I will try to be a little less than "Mostly Harmless" tomorrow.
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jpfletcher Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:33:21pm |
re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Elvis died on my 10th birthday.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:33:29pm |
re: #318 DesertSage
I stand corrected. "Julie" (Lauren Tewes) became a real coke head while on the show and got canned. What the hell did "Doc" do on that ship anyway? I owuld not trust him to clip my toe nails.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:33:36pm |
I don't know what my parents drove in the 70s, but going into the 80's they had a VW Rabbit.
Carter looks every inch the bigoted fool he is in that old ad, only younger.
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rawmuse Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:02pm |
The best thing that "The Love Boat" had going for it was the theme song, which was sung by Jack Jones, a guy who has great pipes.
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jamgarr Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:08pm |
re: #317 yochanan
THE WORST CLOTHING TREND I BOUGHT ONE OF WAS A NEHRU JACKET put it on twice and then tossed it into the garbage, i must have been stoned to have bought a gold and black paisley jacket after that i just bought levi' jackets
My aunt and uncle actually bought me one of those Sonny Bono fur vests for Christmas one year!
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:11pm |
re: #294 Joel
NK's usually live in NY. Since they are all intermarried there are not too many of them. Their headquarters is in MOnsey, NY.
NATURI KARTI are to frum jews as the FLDS are to mormons.
total nut cases.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:13pm |
re: #282 maddogg
I still have my 1983 jeep j-10 4wd pickup truck I bought new in 1983. Though at a best mileage of 12mpg and on Super at that, I don't drive it much if at all. My current go-to-work car has 155,000+ miles on it and I expect it to go to 200,000. My motorcycle was bought new in 1992 and now has 100,000+ on the clock, and still going. Your parents were wise to drive them till the wheels came off, its the only way to get your moneys worth. When my dad went for a "new" car, he looked for a good clean used car with 20,000 or so on the clock. I do too.
My kids got me a T-shirt that says "embarrasing my children is just one of the services I offer", and I wore it out.
* * *
Bless you, & your lucky children. "Waste not, want not" is what the old saw said.
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:16pm |
re: #244 madisonsfriend
Are you calling my bright red and blue striped trousers with the enormous bell bottoms tacky?
No, that's a crime against humanity.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:16pm |
re: #329 jpfletcher
Make sure you're around to say howdy to me on our birthday!
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DesertSage Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:29pm |
re: #330 Joel
I stand corrected. "Julie" (Lauren Tewes) became a real coke head while on the show and got canned. What the hell did "Doc" do on that ship anyway? I owuld not trust him to clip my toe nails.
Doc chased all the ladies...IIRC.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:29pm |
re: #235 Adrenalyn
hate to top you (so I politely apologize, in advance)
the wife and I had a Jeep Cherokee die the day we night it in 1984
on the way home from the dealerpow !
thank you to Lee Iacocca and Chysler
and Dhimmi for bailing them out
and me for being stupid enough to buy the thing
and not reading Consumer Reports auto review issuewas 15 years before I drove another American car after that debacle
Um, that was AMC, and it was not a Cherokee if you got it in 1984.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:33pm |
re: #331 buzzsawmonkey
How Nehru-minded of you.
I had a Nehru jacket. I don't think I ever wore it out in public.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:41pm |
re: #317 yochanan
THE WORST CLOTHING TREND I BOUGHT ONE OF WAS A NEHRU JACKET put it on twice and then tossed it into the garbage, i must have been stoned to have bought a gold and black paisley jacket after that i just bought levi' jackets
well, my folks would not let me get platform shoes
when they were in vogue
BUT
they did let me get a shag haircut, a la David Cassidy
go figure...
but remember the madrass bedspreads and black light bark posters of those days
my bedroom was draped in madrass bedspreads, susended from the ceiling and bark posters and with blacks lights highlighting them
and a contonuous string of xmas lights on the perimeter
but no platform shoes dammit !
and no white belts either
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:34:55pm |
re: #333 buzzsawmonkey
I don't know but I NEVER see them anymore - at least around here. I don't recall seeing them since the early 90's
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:00pm |
re: #307 alegrias
* * *
Hush yo mouth. Mr. Grandy (had a funny name on that show) is now a terrific astute LIZARDLY conservative radio personality in Washington DC, on WMAL 630 am from 5am to 9am. Was a Harvard educated, congressional representative from Iowa at some point.Brilliant, humorous, full of insights about Hollywood, leftism, Congress, real-politic, history, etc.
Fred is lovingly known as Gopher by his millions of fans around the world who watched him became for 9 years in the 1970s hit series "The Love Boat" (1977). But, before Fred became well known as an actor, he went to "Phillips Exeter Academy" with David Eisenhower. Later, he became David's best man when he married Julie Nixon. Then, Fred entered "Harvard University" at Cambridge, Massachusetts and graduated in 1970 with a Bachelor's Degree in English.
Fred is a well-educated man and can speak fluently in both French and Arabic.
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Opinionated Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:04pm |
re: #281 Pawn of the Oppressor
There is such a thing as change when something fundemenental needs changing.
Giuliani changed NYC. Absolutely and for the better.
What has to be asked of Obama is what is so wrong today that his election can change for the better.
Can he make oil cheaper?
Can he make the Jihadists surrender?
Can he end the housing slump?
When you look objectively at those concerns that actually need solutions, an Obama would make things immeasurably worse.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:05pm |
re: #317 yochanan
Wasn't Nehru jackets from the mid to late 1960's?
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:10pm |
Adrenalyn
Hot pants and platforms.Yowza!
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jorline Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:15pm |
re: #206 madisonsfriend
jorline said the left has been calling the republicans Nazis for years so it is okay if people here call Dems Nazis. My earlier posts/Wrath of God and Yochanan explain our objections to the use of the word nazi in this context
Madison...come out of the sun.
Let me know when you want to apologize for assigning someone else's post to me.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:25pm |
re: #285 OldLineTexan
Get a custom Che shirt with "Have you hugged a mass murderer today?" printed on the back.
* * *
Perfect tactic.
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:37pm |
re: #258 alegrias
* * *
Down comforters! Heat turned off in bedrooms!
No airconditioning, because President Carter asked us to sacrifice.
My folks were such patriots, though Carter was leading us down the primrose path to laughable laughingstock weak-kneed country status. We pretended it was the great Depression, and IT WAS! The CARTER depression.Jean Kirkpatrick was right, we were suffering no malaise, we were suffering from President Carter.
There was a woman who should have been president.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:37pm |
re: #325 Creeping Eruption
Its about time jean jackets came back
They never left.
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maddogg Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:42pm |
re: #332 Pawn of the Oppressor
I don't know what my parents drove in the 70s, but going into the 80's they had a VW Rabbit.
Carter looks every inch the bigoted fool he is in that old ad, only younger.
I bought a brand new Rabbit for my first new car. It was a lemon that spent more time in the dealer's shop than it did in my driveway. I sold it the same month the warranty ran out.
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JustMyView Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:54pm |
re: #326 JammieWearingFool
Actually it makes some sense considering how depressed the country will become if a Democrat is elected this November.
Good comeback, but I think they were referring to changes they wanted to promise in their election campaigns. I suspect that the people needing the antidepressants will be Republican House members when they realize just how much the Democratic majority has grown. Last I heard, they were expected to pick up 20 seats.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:35:55pm |
re: #325 Creeping Eruption
Its about time jean jackets came back
I was never allowed to own a denim jacket as a lad, so I plan on getting one now - complete with the Iron Maiden album cover patch on the back.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:36:00pm |
re: #347 Joel
Wasn't Nehru jackets from the mid to late 1960's?
I had one when i was a young teen in summer camp so late 60's sounds about right.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:36:06pm |
re: #221 loppyd
As much as I despise the (FRK) Fat Rich Kid - I hope he pulls through.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:36:32pm |
re: #358 Nevergiveup
I had one when i was a young teen in summer camp so late 60's sounds about right.
I thougth so.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:36:32pm |
re: #341 Honorary Yooper
Begging your pardon, but there were indeed Jeep Cherokees in 1984.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:37:20pm |
re: #288 JustMyView
The idea that a non-incumbent would run on the idea of change is hardly surprising. After all, the point is to be different from whatever came before. GWB, as I recall, promised to "change the tone" when he came to Washington.
* * *
Steam clean the Oval Office. Toss the cigars.
Change the carpets.
That was the change I was looking for.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:37:20pm |
re: #355 buzzsawmonkey
About 1966-68.
Another weird fashion form the lat 1960's -early 1970's - those exaggerated side burns.
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:37:30pm |
re: #341 Honorary Yooper
Um, that was AMC, and it was not a Cherokee if you got it in 1984.
no, that was the year of the buyout
it was indeed Chrysler
I have a letter from customer service in Detroit
where they replied to my "demand" for a new car under the 'lemon law'
they basically said, fuck off Mr. ___
the lemon law is worthless
go read it dumbass
(meaning me the dumbass, not you - dear poster)
a very evil company
I finally sent a photo of me driving it with a giant paper mache lemon on the roof rack
they fixed all the problems
gave me a 5 year warranty extension
and I traded it in for an Acura very shortly
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:37:46pm |
re: #353 MandyManners
So I've been told. I just never see them anymore and have not worn one since the early 90's
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:38:25pm |
re: #364 Joel
Another weird fashion form the lat 1960's -early 1970's - those exaggerated side burns.
Mine were from 1981 through 1988...
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:38:37pm |
re: #365 buzzsawmonkey
Wasn't Ward Churchill claiming membership in the Jeep Cherokee tribe back then?
I thought it was the Hakawi tribe ?
oh, that was F Troop...shit, sorry, my bad
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:38:56pm |
re: #364 Joel
Another weird fashion form the lat 1960's -early 1970's - those exaggerated side burns.
See: Joe Namath. "Very classy."
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:39:15pm |
re: #365 buzzsawmonkey
Wasn't Ward Churchill claiming membership in the Jeep Cherokee tribe back then?
Ward Churchill founded the Jeep Cherokee tribe.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:39:25pm |
re: #340 DesertSage
Doc chased all the ladies...IIRC.
So did Gopher and Isaac the bartender. Most of those guys (at least Doc and Gopher) could not get over in a Hong Kong whore house with a fistful of $50.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:39:40pm |
re: #370 Adrenalyn
I thought it was the Hakawi tribe ?
oh, that was F Troop...shit, sorry, my bad
The Hakawi never ever would have allowed Ward SHithead to be a tribe member.
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'Nam Grunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:39:56pm |
I still like the no bra look on wimmen, as Richard Pryor said once " I swear one of them winked at me while staring"! ;-)
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:40:03pm |
re: #347 Joel
Wasn't Nehru jackets from the mid to late 1960's?
got mine in 1968 after the 68 dnc which i was at for one day and then got my lilly white ass out of there. chicago cops and rioting comies can be mean ass'd m'f'ers.
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Endangered in MASS Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:40:04pm |
re: #263 RickZ
that was a Chrylser/Dodge /Plymouth staple of the ealry 60's
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:40:06pm |
re: #371 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
See: Joe Namath. "Very classy."
I never understood why Joe Namath was considered to be good looking.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:40:16pm |
re: #367 Creeping Eruption
So I've been told. I just never see them anymore and have not worn one since the early 90's
I've one from Anne Klein. Well, it's a barn jacket but, it's in denim.
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:40:20pm |
re: #343 Adrenalyn
I had a madras jacket and shirts from the early 60's. They were pretty cool after being exposed to the rain. I was a little less fashion concerned after 1972 when I became a police officer, just basic blue with black leather accessories..
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:40:31pm |
re: #298 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Ghia? I though the VW Karrman Ghia was the only car with that name?
No, Ghia is a styling and coachbuilding house in Turin, that's done did work for many companies, like VW (the Karmann Ghia), Ford, Chrysler, and others. Ford licensed the name for awhile.
Karmann was the coachbuilder that built Karmann Ghias for VW. There's an old saying that goes, "Karmann invented rust, then licensed it to the Italians."
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kansas Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:40:34pm |
That'll save the RNC some production costs. Just run that on TV.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:41:01pm |
re: #376 yochanan
got mine in 1968 after the 68 dnc which i was at for one day and then got my lilly white ass out of there. chicago cops and rioting comies can be mean ass'd m'f'ers.
Granny glasses started becoming popular back then although it took me a while to give up my horn rimmed black glasses.
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Eyes of Blue Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:41:12pm |
re: #182 reine.de.tout
I have gotten several calls recently from "877" numbers - actually, there are 2 that keep calling me. I am also on the do-not-call list, but I could find no listing for these numbers so I don't know who it is that is calling.
Contacted the phone company to see what they could do to help me get rid of these calls - nada.
This may help.
[Link: whocalled.us...]
I am also on the do-not-call list but I still get calls for donations to various charities which is not covered under the do-not-call list policy. In other words they can legally call you all they want. I have caller ID and when I see an 877 or 800 number I don't bother answering the phone.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:41:22pm |
re: #378 Joel
I never understood why Joe Namath was considered to be good looking.
Because he could throw a football 75 yards on target and like a bullet.
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beblebrox Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:41:37pm |
short history of AMC: from Wikipedia
American Motors Corporation (AMC) was an American automobile company formed on January 14, 1954 by the merger of the Nash-Kelvinator Corporation and the Hudson Motor Car Company. At the time, it was the largest corporate merger in U.S. history, valued at US$198 million ($1.44 billion in 2006 dollars). Declining sales and a fiercely competitive auto market in the United States forced AMC to seek a partner in the late 1970s, which led to a tie-up with France's Renault in 1979. The arrangement lasted until March 2, 1987, when American Motors was purchased by the Chrysler Corporation, which discontinued the use of AMC and Renault brand names in the United States. The Jeep line was continued, as well as some of the models under the Eagle marque.
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azul93gt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:41:39pm |
Since cars came up don't forget Carter's imposition of 85 mph speedometers in cars regardless of how fast said car actually went. Also remember his 'green' dictate of max 55 mph on the interstates.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:41:54pm |
re: #375 'Nam Grunt
I still like the no bra look on wimmen, as Richard Pryor said once " I swear one of them winked at me while staring"! ;-)
might be ok on a younger size 6-10 but not on one of those boobies for peace crones.
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:42:04pm |
re: #385 Nevergiveup
and his legs looked great in panty hose
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:42:09pm |
re: #364 Joel
Another weird fashion form the lat 1960's -early 1970's - those exaggerated side burns.
When I went into basic one guy had huge side burns. At the barber shop day he was first up, the barber ask him if he like to keep them, with a huge grin he said "I sure would." The barber zipped 'em right off and handed them to him, he looked crushed. We all cracked up. That started the whole "what you laughing at" and push up drill.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:42:09pm |
re: #297 Viking6
Please do not forget the fab white shoes and belts
The full Cleveland is the proper term for these accessories when worn with a pastel polyester(was there any other sort) leisure suit.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:42:26pm |
re: #379 MandyManners
I've one from Anne Klein. Well, it's a barn jacket but, it's in denim.
I'm talking about the good old Levi denim jean jacket. Besides, as wonderful as my wife is, I don't think she would be ok with me shopping at Anne Klien for jean jackets for me. :)
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Golem Akbar Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:42:36pm |
I've got to change my socks. I hope I have an extra pair around here somewhere...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:42:37pm |
Finally, remember Medal of Honor recipient P.F.C. Ross A. McGinnis tonight. Definitely thread worthy.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:42:54pm |
re: #369 OldLineTexan
Mine were from 1981 through 1988...
Sideburns - named after the worst American General ever - Ambrose Everett Burnside. Not too many boys are given the name Anbrose any more.
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:43:04pm |
re: #391 madisonsfriend
Sorry Colorado lad - thought Cleveland burned up on the lake
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:43:32pm |
All this talk about the 70s and not one mention of the complicated man?
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:43:35pm |
re: #393 Golem Akbar
I've got to change my socks. I hope I have an extra pair around here somewhere...
So that's what the smell is...
;-P
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:43:40pm |
re: #378 Joel
I never understood why Joe Namath was considered to be good looking.
He played Lil' Abner on Broadway. (reeeaaallly short run).
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:44:07pm |
re: #383 Joel
Granny glasses started becoming popular back then although it took me a while to give up my horn rimmed black glasses.
I'd kill for a pair of those.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:44:16pm |
re: #390 jcm
When I went into basic one guy had huge side burns. At the barber shop day he was first up, the barber ask him if he like to keep them, with a huge grin he said "I sure would." The barber zipped 'em right off and handed them to him, he looked crushed. We all cracked up. That started the whole "what you laughing at" and push up drill.
I could imagine someone like Sgt. Foley (Officer and A Gentleman)doing something like that.
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ec marm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:44:18pm |
re: #304 buzzsawmonkey
My college roommate had a '63 or '64 Dodge Dart with the pushbutton transmission. Great car, despite the necessity of re-plugging in the radio cable every time you hit a major bump. To be fair, that was not one of the car's original features, but a function of age.
Hehehe - my dad had the Plymouth version of that thing and I can remember pushing the radio cable back in, too. Took my drivers test in it, the day after my 16th birthday. After passing test in that 125 hp piece of junk, pulled into the driveway, got into my 325 hp Chevelle and laughed my ass off. Probably first and only time I beat 'the man'. There was no way anyone at the DMV was gonna let me pass my drivers test in my car. When I started the car, the neighbors coffee cup would rattle off the table to the floor.
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maddogg Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:44:19pm |
re: #387 azul93gt
Since cars came up don't forget Carter's imposition of 85 mph speedometers in cars regardless of how fast said car actually went. Also remember his 'green' dictate of max 55 mph on the interstates.
I remember that stupidity. Typical of Carter's many accomplishments, totally stupid and worthless, just like Carter.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:44:45pm |
re: #323 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
'tis Gopher of whom you speak. Funny thing that as liberal as Hollywood is, the celebrities who have won public office - Mr. Grandy, Sonny Bono (PBUH)- tend to be right-of-center.
* * *
Thank you lizards. Believe it or not, "Gopher"'s wonderful voice is usually the first thing I hear most mornings! Like LGF Radio, addictive commentary & witticisms.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:44:50pm |
re: #400 MandyManners
I'd kill for a pair of those.
You can thank the late John Lennon for popularizing granny glasses.
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fpxr Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:44:55pm |
re: #17 Ward Cleaver
Wow, a Ford Bronco and two old Saabs (96s) parked in the same lot!
Don't forget about the Brand Spankin' new White 1975 Ford Granada and the Light Gold '73 Dodge Dart sedan on the upper level!
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:45:43pm |
re: #392 Creeping Eruption
I'm talking about the good old Levi denim jean jacket. Besides, as wonderful as my wife is, I don't think she would be ok with me shopping at Anne Klien for jean jackets for me. :)
I reckon not! I still have my Levi jacket hanging in the closet. If it weren't so blazing hot I'd wear it.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:45:51pm |
re: #341 Honorary Yooper
Um, that was AMC, and it was not a Cherokee if you got it in 1984.
Jeep Cherokee (XJ Platform), starting in '84. You could choose the AMC 2.5l Hurricane four, or the GM 2.8l V6 from the Chevy Citation.
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:00pm |
re: #315 jorline
madison...Please provide the post in which I made these comments. Everything you've referenced so far has nothing to do with your post. Please play with facts only, madison!
Sorry! - it was ethanexx in post #129 who said what I explained.
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:04pm |
re: #386 beblebrox
Speaking of Kelvinators, my parent's bought a Kelvinator fridge to furnish their new home when they got married. They moved 5 times and two states, and that thing was still going strong around 30 years later. They couldn't get a new one because they were both raised not to waste money and that one was still working fine.
Finally, we talked them into moving it to the garage for "overflow" and they have one from this century.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:21pm |
re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He played Lil' Abner on Broadway. (reeeaaallly short run).
And then there was that biker movie and thankfully I forgot the name.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:33pm |
re: #392 Creeping Eruption
I'm talking about the good old Levi denim jean jacket. Besides, as wonderful as my wife is, I don't think she would be ok with me shopping at Anne Klien for jean jackets for me. :)
Levi still makes 'em, only now they're called trucker jackets.
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jamgarr Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:33pm |
re: #395 Joel
Sideburns - named after the worst American General ever - Ambrose Everett Burnside. Not too many boys are given the name Anbrose any more.
Still, better to be the namesake of facial hair than what Gen. Hooker got attached to his name.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:33pm |
never had sideburns mostly i have a full beard with the exception of goatee for the last 40 years. if i shaved no one would know me.
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Viking6 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:45pm |
re: #402 buzzsawmonkey
Right... It was about 1969 as I remember it
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:46:57pm |
re: #406 Joel
You can thank the late John Lennon for popularizing granny glasses.
I hate the latest frames. I look like some latte-sucking Euroweenie.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:47:06pm |
re: #402 buzzsawmonkey
You are thinking of how the Cuyahoga River, which runs through Cleveland, caught fire back in the late '60s or so.
Great Randy Newman song.
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kansas Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:47:07pm |
AP's Charles Babington offers this report: "There's ample evidence that Obama is something special, a man who makes difficult tasks look easy, who seems to touch millions of diverse people with a message of hope that somehow doesn't sound Pollyannaish."
In other words, "Look, up in the sky, it's a bird, it's plane...able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, able to stop a speed locomotive, able to...well you know the rest. Oh and by the way, the reason the message of hope doesn't sound Pollyannaish is that it sounds like a load of bullshit.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:47:10pm |
re: #408 MandyManners
I had a perfectly worn one in college - it took years to get it there. I have no idea what happened to it - no doubt a casualty of one of many memorable nights I can't remember.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:47:26pm |
re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He played Lil' Abner on Broadway. (reeeaaallly short run).
Rememebr his great TV show about a High School basketball team "The Waverly Wonders"? Did it last moire then 3 episodes (I think Jim Bouton's "Ball Four" lasted 3 episodes).
One of my favorite TV shows from the Carter era "The White Shadow" - only what was the character "Abner Goldstein" doing on that team? He looked like he should have been captain of the chess team.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:48:34pm |
re: #419 kansas
Wasn't Charlie Babington the name in Rain Man?
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:48:43pm |
re: #413 redstateredneck
Thanks for the link. I think I am going to have to get one.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:48:48pm |
re: #362 OldLineTexan
Begging your pardon, but there were indeed Jeep Cherokees in 1984.
I stand corrected on that, but it was an AMC.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:49:12pm |
re: #384 Eyes of Blue
This may help.
[Link: whocalled.us...]I am also on the do-not-call list but I still get calls for donations to various charities which is not covered under the do-not-call list policy. In other words they can legally call you all they want. I have caller ID and when I see an 877 or 800 number I don't bother answering the phone.
got it bookmarked, thank you!
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:49:22pm |
re: #424 Creeping Eruption
Thanks for the link. I think I am going to have to get one.
Go ahead on; you deserve it!
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:49:39pm |
re: #417 MandyManners
I hate the latest frames. I look like some latte-sucking Euroweenie.
I hate people like Tina Fey who does not need glasses but wears them ( basically just a glass pane) to affect an intellectual look on TV and the movies.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:49:42pm |
re: #408 MandyManners
I reckon not! I still have my Levi jacket hanging in the closet. If it weren't so blazing hot I'd wear it.
remembers when levi's were cheap now they are to f''' expansive just go buy a decent off brand. or one from tractors supply or a working mans place.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:50:05pm |
re: #347 Joel
Wasn't Nehru jackets from the mid to late 1960's?
* * *
Before or after Mao jackets?
What were we thinking having this feeble love fest with totalitarian un-fashion!
Y'all know Yves Saint Laurent died in Paris? He was Mr. Fashionista himself, born in Oran, Algeria no less. He "gave" us the pantsuit for women I think.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:50:16pm |
re: #415 yochanan
never had sideburns mostly i have a full beard with the exception of goatee for the last 40 years. if i shaved no one would know me.
My sideburns were shaved in 1988 so I could get married.
I have a gunfighter's drooping moustache now, almost to the jaw. She hates it, but it grows that way, and I am not shaving it. I did break down and buy one of those little scissor/comb combos.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:50:25pm |
re: #404 maddogg
I remember that stupidity. Typical of Carter's many accomplishments, totally stupid and worthless, just like Carter.
The 55 started under Nixon, in 1974. I hated that law. I had to live under it until it was repealed in 1995.
I think the hated 55 started people on the road to a general dislike for traffic laws, like light red lights and stop signs (just my opinion).
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:50:41pm |
re: #422 buzzsawmonkey
Must have been a revival; the original show was in the '50s.
Of course, in the 1960s Li'l Abner was out of favor because Al Capp had turned conservative; he started doing strips that lampooned SDS as SWINE (Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything) and Joan Baez as Joanie Phonie, who sings about poverty and injustice for $10,000 a night.
Then, of course, Capp got caught in some sort of compromising position with a girl who, if not in fact underage, was much much younger than he, and his career tanked.
Capp's artificial leg I think was found under the bed!
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:50:49pm |
re: #429 yochanan
I've got a Levis jacket- got it at the thrift shop. Around here, lots of people don't keep stuff long- but I do.
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:51:50pm |
re: #419 kansas
AP's Charles Babington offers this report: "There's ample evidence that Obama is something special, a man who makes difficult tasks look easy, who seems to touch millions of diverse people with a message of hope that somehow doesn't sound Pollyannaish."
In other words, "Look, up in the sky, it's a bird, it's plane...able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, able to stop a speed locomotive, able to...well you know the rest. Oh and by the way, the reason the message of hope doesn't sound Pollyannaish is that it sounds like a load of bullshit.
Superman: Faster than a speeding bullet.
Obama: Wants a handgun ban.
Superman: More powerful than a locomotive.
Obama: Missed the train.
Superman: Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.
Obama: Gets stuck in elevator.
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:52:12pm |
Warm up that flying pig...
In the WaPo.
The Iraqi Upturn
Don't look now, but the U.S.-backed government and army may be winning the war.
Sunday, June 1, 2008; Page B06
THERE'S BEEN a relative lull in news coverage and debate about Iraq in recent weeks -- which is odd, because May could turn out to have been one of the most important months of the war. While Washington's attention has been fixed elsewhere, military analysts have watched with astonishment as the Iraqi government and army have gained control for the first time of the port city of Basra and the sprawling Baghdad neighborhood of Sadr City, routing the Shiite militias that have ruled them for years and sending key militants scurrying to Iran. At the same time, Iraqi and U.S. forces have pushed forward with a long-promised offensive in Mosul, the last urban refuge of al-Qaeda. So many of its leaders have now been captured or killed that U.S. Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker, renowned for his cautious assessments, said that the terrorists have "never been closer to defeat than they are now."
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:52:16pm |
re: #417 MandyManners
I hate the latest frames. I look like some latte-sucking Euroweenie.
Consider it urban camo. People won't know the real you and make assumptions. I went to UW-Madison, a more liberal University is hard to find. I had long hair in a pony tail, wore sandals (Naots, not Birkenstocks) and regularly stunned people when I expressed my less than left views. It was loads of fun.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:52:25pm |
re: #431 OldLineTexan
trimmed my 'stache once wife could not stand it trimmed said it felt like a wire brush when it was long it was soft.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:52:34pm |
re: #432 Ward Cleaver
The 55 started under Nixon, in 1974. I hated that law. I had to live under it until it was repealed in 1995.
I think the hated 55 started people on the road to a general dislike for traffic laws, like light red lights and stop signs (just my opinion).
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:53:06pm |
Well done, Killgore.
Somehow I suspect people on the right have also run on the 'change' platform in times when the left has been in power for a while. But there is a satisfying echo in Carter and Obama's vacuous promise.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:53:41pm |
re: #402 buzzsawmonkey
Thought it was Lake Erie.
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:53:52pm |
re: #438 jcm
Warm up that flying pig...
In the WaPo.
The Iraqi Upturn
Don't look now, but the U.S.-backed government and army may be winning the war.
Sunday, June 1, 2008; Page B06
Interesting.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:53:58pm |
re: #438 jcm
Worst possible news for the Democrat party.
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:54:00pm |
re: #432 Ward Cleaver
The 55 started under Nixon, in 1974. I hated that law. I had to live under it until it was repealed in 1995.
I think the hated 55 started people on the road to a general dislike for traffic laws, like light red lights and stop signs (just my opinion).
IIRC the time lost driving 55 and a greater economic impact the the money saved in fuel.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:54:15pm |
re: #354 maddogg
I bought a brand new Rabbit for my first new car. It was a lemon that spent more time in the dealer's shop than it did in my driveway. I sold it the same month the warranty ran out.
* * *
We had a Rabbit during Carter's presidency. It came with a lockable gas cap, so people couldn't steal your gas during gas crises! This was when gas caps were removeable, like on jars.
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maddogg Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:54:21pm |
re: #417 MandyManners
Heh. My glasses frames are large and 12 years old. I tell my kids my lack of style IS my style:)
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'Nam Grunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:54:22pm |
Well I see the idiot moby Cognito has blessed us , what a tool!
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:54:37pm |
In the mid eighties I had a 74 ½ MGB, what a pile of shit that car was, to this day I hate old unreliable cars!
I just sold the first vehicle I ever purchased brand new, a 1987 GMC ½ ton PU short-bed, It had over 200,000 miles on it and I only went through 3 transmissions and one rear-end, not bad for this lead foot.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:54:48pm |
re: #387 azul93gt
Since cars came up don't forget Carter's imposition of 85 mph speedometers in cars regardless of how fast said car actually went. Also remember his 'green' dictate of max 55 mph on the interstates.
55 mph was imposed back in the Nixon years (started in 1974), and Carter extended it. At least is started to end during the Reagan years (to 65 mph), and came to an end with the election of a Republican House in 1994.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:54:49pm |
re: #446 jcm
IIRC the time lost driving 55 and a greater economic impact the the money saved in fuel.
Nixon was not very conservative. In fact he ran one of the most socially and economically liberal administrations ever.
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:55:12pm |
re: #445 redstateredneck
Worst possible news for the Democrat party.
BHO, "we're winning, time to get out."
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:55:32pm |
re: #449 'Nam Grunt
Well I see the idiot moby Cognito has blessed us , what a tool!
What's your complaint exactly, NG?
(A gentle word to the ever wise: You might want to look up 'Moby' in the LGF info section.)
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:56:24pm |
re: #452 Joel
Nixon was not very conservative. In fact he ran one of the most socially and economically liberal administrations ever.
EPA -- Nixon.
Wage & Price controls -- Nixon.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:56:54pm |
re: #366 Adrenalyn
no, that was the year of the buyout
it was indeed Chrysler
I have a letter from customer service in Detroit
where they replied to my "demand" for a new car under the 'lemon law'they basically said, fuck off Mr. ___
the lemon law is worthless
go read it dumbass
(meaning me the dumbass, not you - dear poster)a very evil company
I finally sent a photo of me driving it with a giant paper mache lemon on the roof rack
they fixed all the problems
gave me a 5 year warranty extension
and I traded it in for an Acura very shortly
* * *
Best embarassing publicity stunt ever! YOu're a genius.
How do we affix lemons to democrats' lemon "change" ideas?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:01pm |
re: #385 Nevergiveup
Because he could throw a football 75 yards on target and like a bullet.
I can still remember seeing him crying on the evening news, announcing his "retirement" after Pete Rozelle told him he had to sell his stake in the Bachelors III nightclubs (they later compromised).
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:06pm |
re: #432 Ward Cleaver
The 55 started under Nixon, in 1974. I hated that law. I had to live under it until it was repealed in 1995.
I think the hated 55 started people on the road to a general dislike for traffic laws, like light red lights and stop signs (just my opinion).
I agree, the NMSL was a bad idea, IMHO. By not being realistic, it taught drivers that the limits did not mean anything. Realistic highway limits get followed, unrealistic ones do not.
Another factor in people ignoring stop signs is the fact you can find them for every fricking pedestrian crossing in a shopping center or crosswalk.
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maddogg Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:08pm |
re: #432 Ward Cleaver
The 55 started under Nixon, in 1974. I hated that law. I had to live under it until it was repealed in 1995.
I think the hated 55 started people on the road to a general dislike for traffic laws, like light red lights and stop signs (just my opinion).
That was the end of traffic laws for safety, and the beginning of traffic laws as a liberal social experiment. I NEVER wear a seatbelt in a car, only because its none of the government's damn business to protect me from myself.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:19pm |
re: #456 jcm
Affirmative Action - Nixon
Clean Air Act - Nixon
Endangered Species Act - Nixon
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Golem Akbar Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:21pm |
re: #439 Creeping Eruption
Consider it urban camo. People won't know the real you and make assumptions. I went to UW-Madison, a more liberal University is hard to find. I had long hair in a pony tail, wore sandals (Naots, not Birkenstocks) and regularly stunned people when I expressed my less than left views. It was loads of fun.
I wear Birkenstocks and look kinda like an old hippy. I pass for liberal, but whoa...that's until someone asks me a political question. I love the look of confusion on people's faces when I speak out. heh
[Naots are a tad better than Birks 'cause of where they're made]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:26pm |
re: #422 buzzsawmonkey
Yeah, it was a revival. But I am not positive it even made it onto stage. Just remember Joe promoting it.
His play by play was wooden. Can't imagine his acting.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:55pm |
FOX is talking about How Ballard found the Titanic and how the search for Titanic was a cover for Ballard finding 2 sunk US Nuc sunken subs. This has been know for at least 5 years? Why is this new?
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cygnus Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:57:57pm |
re: #438 jcm
Warm up that flying pig...
In the WaPo.
The Iraqi Upturn
Don't look now, but the U.S.-backed government and army may be winning the war.
Sunday, June 1, 2008; Page B06
In the Washington Compost? Shocka!
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jcm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:58:00pm |
re: #458 alegrias
* * *
Best embarassing publicity stunt ever! YOu're a genius.How do we affix lemons to democrats' lemon "change" ideas?
After 4 decades and trillions of dollars on the "Great Society" lemon doesn't begin to describe it.
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:58:01pm |
re: #453 buzzsawmonkey
I just learned the lakes for the first time, when I picked up a children's book that's been on my shelves since my kids were small --fascinating! :)
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'Nam Grunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:58:26pm |
re: #459 Ward Cleaver
Joe Willie was the best, Dan Marino reminded me of him the way he played the position. ;-)
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:58:28pm |
re: #451 Honorary Yooper
55 mph was imposed back in the Nixon years (started in 1974), and Carter extended it. At least is started to end during the Reagan years (to 65 mph), and came to an end with the election of a Republican House in 1994.
One of the few useful things Clinton did was signing that repeal.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:58:31pm |
re: #459 Ward Cleaver
I can still remember seeing him crying on the evening news, announcing his "retirement" after Pete Rozelle told him he had to sell his stake in the Bachelors III nightclubs (they later compromised).
I am a Jet fan. i was pissed.
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:58:51pm |
re: #463 Golem Akbar
I wear Birkenstocks and look kinda like an old hippy. I pass for liberal, but whoa...that's until someone asks me a political question. I love the look of confusion on people's faces when I speak out. heh
[Naots are a tad better than Birks 'cause of where they're made]
Are Birkenstocks still made in Germany? What about Naots?
(For what it's worth, Mephistos are great. Made in France, I think, but also Portugal. But never China, which I like.)
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ec marm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:58:56pm |
re: #449 'Nam Grunt
Well I see the idiot moby Cognito has blessed us , what a tool!
Na, he's not a moby. He's a hard core contrarian. Who will, just to prove my point, probably argue with my assessment.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:59:20pm |
re: #469 'Nam Grunt
Joe Willie was the best, Dan Marino reminded me of him the way he played the position. ;-)
Namath was a great quarterback, and took a lot of punishment.
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maddogg Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:59:21pm |
re: #431 OldLineTexan
I have a gunfighter's drooping moustache now, almost to the jaw. She hates it, but it grows that way, and I am not shaving it. I did break down and buy one of those little scissor/comb combos.
Same here:)
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:59:25pm |
re: #473 ec marm
Na, he's not a moby. He's a hard core contrarian. Who will, just to prove my point, probably argue with my assessment.
I will NOT!
;)
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Golem Akbar Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:59:31pm |
re: #472 Cognito
Are Birkenstocks still made in Germany? What about Naots?
(For what it's worth, Mephistos are great. Made in France, I think, but also Portugal. But never China, which I like.)
Naots are made in Israel.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:59:33pm |
re: #378 Joel
I never understood why Joe Namath was considered to be good looking.
* * *
Dimples? Almost a Travolta thing, nice chin, slightly Italian, dark haired, athletic, boyish, good-natured.
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Bob in Breckenridge Mon, Jun 2, 2008 12:59:47pm |
Hannity is going to interview the guy who supposedly knows about the "whitey" tape with Michelle Obama in a few minutes. You can listen free at [Link: www.hannity.com...] if you don't have a radio handy.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:00:03pm |
re: #474 Ward Cleaver
Namath was a great quarterback, and took a lot of punishment.
Your right. He stood in there till the last possible second and took it.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:00:09pm |
re: #474 Ward Cleaver
Namath was a great quarterback, and took a lot of punishment.
Best QB never to play on a really good team - Sonny Jurgensen.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:00:17pm |
re: #471 Nevergiveup
I am a Jet fan. i was pissed.
I'm not a big Jets fan, but I like them.
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zombie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:00:27pm |
re: #188 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
My initial thought was Windows MovieMaker. Not sure if you have access to Windows box though. I think it came as part of the basic OS package with XP media center edition.
Nope, it's gotta be a Mac program.
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:01:02pm |
re: #465 Nevergiveup
For real submerged skullduggery, check out the story of the
Glomar Explorer
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:01:09pm |
re: #446 jcm
IIRC the time lost driving 55 and a greater economic impact the the money saved in fuel.
55 mph didn't even save all that much fuel either. The Heritage Foundation found that it saved a mere 1%.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:01:10pm |
re: #459 Ward Cleaver
I can still remember seeing him crying on the evening news, announcing his "retirement" after Pete Rozelle told him he had to sell his stake in the Bachelors III nightclubs (they later compromised).
One of my alltime favorite hockey players was a partner of his in that nightclub. Do you remember who it was?
(hint ,, center ,,, Boston Bruins,,, was named rookie of the year the year after Bobby Orr won it)
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:01:14pm |
re: #481 Joel
Best QB never to play on a really good team - Sonny Jurgensen.
Maybe, but what about Daddy Manning?
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zombie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:01:15pm |
re: #200 beblebrox
i use tmpgenc a lot. a good source to learn about video editing and get pointed at software is both [Link: www.vcdhelp.com...] and [Link: www.doom9.org...] a lot has to do with what default codec you are using to encode with. choosing different ones can result in dramatic changes in file size and quality.
I don't want to do any encoding using any codec. I want to simply lop the end off the existing file.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:01:38pm |
One of my best friends is from Islip, and he's a long-suffering Jets fan.
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Golem Akbar Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:01:50pm |
re: #472 Cognito
Are Birkenstocks still made in Germany? What about Naots?
(For what it's worth, Mephistos are great. Made in France, I think, but also Portugal. But never China, which I like.)
Birkenstocks are made in Germany. They're great shoes. Mine are over 15 years old, and have been resoled. I love 'em. But when they're toast, my next pair will be Naots.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:02:04pm |
re: #484 Ojoe
For real submerged skullduggery, check out the story of the
Glomar Explorer
They don't make em like Howard anymore!
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zombie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:02:10pm |
re: #212 Opinionated
VirtualDub or VirtualDubmod if you can run Windows apps. Freeware
Can't be Windows.
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Widow'smight Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:02:12pm |
re: #453 buzzsawmonkey
Ever take the Ferry boat to South Bass Island and rent a Golf cart for the day?
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:02:12pm |
re: #456 jcm
EPA -- Nixon.
Wage & Price controls -- Nixon.
Very few presidents combine a genius for domestic affairs with a genius for foriegn affairs. It's usually one or the other.
I kinda like the EPA as an idea, although like most government, it should be about 1/100th the size/influence it actually is.
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'Nam Grunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:02:25pm |
re: #473 ec marm
Charles will dispose of him post haste when he tires of his BS. ;-)
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:02:32pm |
re: #485 Honorary Yooper
The accident rate went down significantly IIRC.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:02:51pm |
re: #487 Nevergiveup
Maybe, but what about Daddy Manning?
Yes he took a huge pounding on the Saints.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:03:05pm |
re: #486 sattv4u2
One of my alltime favorite hockey players was a partner of his in that nightclub. Do you remember who it was?
(hint ,, center ,,, Boston Bruins,,, was named rookie of the year the year after Bobby Orr won it)
Sanderson?
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:03:15pm |
re: #446 jcm
IIRC the time lost driving 55 and a greater economic impact the the money saved in fuel.
I remember I didn't see what was so terrible about the 55 mph limit when it first came out. I was living in the Wash DC metro area at the time.
Then I spent a couple of months in New Mexico.
Heh.
A federally imposed driving limit makes about as much sense as a federal minimum wage.
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:03:47pm |
re: #491 buzzsawmonkey
Yes...after reading it, a week or so ago, I looked up the storyline of all the others...and recommended them to my son to get the pack of them for homeschooling his little ones... :)
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:03:55pm |
re: #500 Nevergiveup
Sanderson?
ding ding ding
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:04:12pm |
re: #502 wolfie
A federally imposed driving limit makes about as much sense as a federal minimum wage.
Or centrally planned anything.
One size does not fit all.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:04:23pm |
re: #463 Golem Akbar
I wear Birkenstocks and look kinda like an old hippy. I pass for liberal, but whoa...that's until someone asks me a political question. I love the look of confusion on people's faces when I speak out. heh
[Naots are a tad better than Birks 'cause of where they're made]
Twas my fiorst week on campus and was having lunch with my then girl friend and some unwashed hippie girl she met. The hippie girl was aghast that I had avocado slices on my salad and took me to task for supporting human rights abuses in Equador (I think). She then went on to tell me how she was a vegan, didn't wear leather, etc. You know the song and dance. Anyway, in very dramatic fashion I lifted the table cloth and pointed to her Birkenstocks and asked her what they were made of - because, of course she doesn't wear leather. "Oh" she said, "those are made from the hides of diseased cows. They are not killed for their skins."
"So" I said, "you would rather let the poor suffering cow continue its miserable diseased life, etc. so you can feel good about wearing . . ."
You can imagine how the rest of the conversation went. Needless to say, I never saw unwashed hippie chick again. Libs sure can dish it out, but suck at taking it back.
I had such a spring in my step that day.
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ec marm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:04:37pm |
re: #488 zombie
I don't want to do any encoding using any codec. I want to simply lop the end off the existing file.
I can't believe that should be so tough on a Mac. After watching the brainwashing commercials on the tube, you'd just automatically assume Mac was the best at everything.
Seriously, the process you are referring to is a two minute, with about 20 different screen resolution option, process in Windows Moviemaker. A free program with XP.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:04:43pm |
re: #502 wolfie
Who died and left the Fed Gov in charge of how fast I can drive?
Is there nothing they wish to controll?
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:04:59pm |
re: #492 Nevergiveup
Nope. A contemporary said of him that ice water flowed in his veins.
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joncelli Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:05:15pm |
re: #481 Joel
Oh, I remember Sonny's passes -- insanely ugly, but they got there (or am I thinking of Billy Kilmer?).
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:05:56pm |
re: #498 Ojoe
The accident rate went down significantly IIRC.
That's also false. The reason why the fatality rate went down was that cars were made safer, and more people were wearing seat belts. Even today, with higher limits than the NMSL era, the fatality rate continues to drop.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:06:00pm |
re: #452 Joel
Nixon was not very conservative. In fact he ran one of the most socially and economically liberal administrations ever.
* * *
Nixon started Affirmative Action and Environmental Protection Agency.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:06:22pm |
re: #511 joncelli
Oh, I remember Sonny's passes -- insanely ugly, but they got there (or am I thinking of Billy Kilmer?).
Kilmer threw the "wounded ducks". Sonny had a very good arm
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:06:33pm |
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:06:37pm |
re: #511 joncelli
Oh, I remember Sonny's passes -- insanely ugly, but they got there (or am I thinking of Billy Kilmer?).
You ar ethinking of Kilmer. Jurgensen could throw a lighting rod. Kilmer's passes would wobble.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:06:44pm |
re: #510 Ojoe
Nope. A contemporary said of him that ice water flowed in his veins.
Kinda like VP Chaney.
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beblebrox Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:07:28pm |
re: #488 zombie
well, Mac or PC there is always some sort of codec involved in the video. the real trick is to make sure when editing to make sure the video isn't re-encoded using a more cumbersome, lower quality one.
The act of lopping of a few frames by necessity requires a reevaluation of the file, for the time stamp built into an AVi file, etc.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:07:32pm |
re: #472 Cognito
Naots are made in Israel. Mephistos are terribly comfortable - even if made in France, I still like em.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:07:36pm |
re: #484 Ojoe
For real submerged skullduggery, check out the story of the
Glomar Explorer
I've got a picture of the Glomar Explorer. I saw it back in 1984, when driving through Benicia, on Suisun Bay. It was in mothballs then. Freaked me out when I saw it, 'cause I had no idea it was there.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:07:53pm |
re: #514 alegrias
* * *
Nixon started Affirmative Action and Environmental Protection Agency.
Yes I mentioned that. He also gave away wheat to the USSR at bargain prices and initiated "Detente" with the USSR. JFK cut taxes across the board, Nixon never did.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:08:11pm |
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:08:21pm |
re: #444 Cognito
THERE'S BEEN a relative lull in news coverage and debate about Iraq in recent weeks -- which is odd, because May could turn out to have been one of the most important months of the war.
DUH. If May was important because it was full of good news, you can bet your a** there'd be a "relative lull in news coverage."
"Odd" - *snort*
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razorbacker Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:08:46pm |
re: #474 Ward Cleaver
Namath was a great quarterback, and took a lot of punishment.
Namath didn't need any more punishment. He'd played for Bear Bryant down in Alabama. If you played for Bear, you tried to run the ball. Namath's knees were already shot by the time he got to the pros.
Had he come up when the current passing game was king, who knows what might have been.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:08:53pm |
re: #517 Joel
You ar ethinking of Kilmer. Jurgensen could throw a lighting rod. Kilmer's passes would wobble.
Alot of the great Quarterbacks like Sonny, Namath, etc had no fear. They would get picked off or pounded, get back up and throw it down field on the next play.
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:09:20pm |
re: #477 Golem Akbar
Naots are made in Israel.
Very cool, I didn't know that. I'll have to give them another look.
Anyone know other products made in Israel?
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:09:43pm |
re: #526 Nevergiveup
Another great one who never made it to the Super Bowl - Dan Fouts.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:01pm |
re: #467 jcm
After 4 decades and trillions of dollars on the "Great Society" lemon doesn't begin to describe it.
* * *
So why can democrats keep peddling LEMONS?
Because billions of people FORGET!
We here are remembering how lemons were sold to us, how we voted for lemons, and how bad the lemonade tasted!
NEVER AGAIN, lemons policies for president.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:33pm |
re: #528 Cognito
Very cool, I didn't know that. I'll have to give them another look.
Anyone know other products made in Israel?
Intel Inside!
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Alouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:35pm |
re: #507 Creeping Eruption
"Oh" she said, "those are made from the hides of diseased cows. They are not killed for their skins."
I remember hearing a DJ back in the '60's describing the nuptials of John Lennon and Yoko Ono. "The bride and groom wore shoes and jackets made of human hair, because they are opposed to the killing of animals for their hides." Then he said, "I'm kind of opposed to the killing of humans for their hair."
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:46pm |
re: #497 'Nam Grunt
Charles will dispose of him post haste when he tires of his BS. ;-)
Do you have a specific disagreement, or are you just generally complaining?
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'Nam Grunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:51pm |
re: #530 Joel
Joe Gilliam of the Steelers would have been the greatest if he hadn't taken to drug road!
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:54pm |
re: #509 WrathofG-d
Who died and left the Fed Gov in charge of how fast I can drive?
Is there nothing they wish to controll?
We are supposed to have a limited federal government at least.
But a Constitution can protect us only if judges choose to read it plainly.
Now there's nothing the feds think they can't or shouldn't do.
Health care, light bulbs, day care...anything.
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:56pm |
re: #527 buzzsawmonkey
Your girlfriend should've said "yes, it's dyed with natural compounds."
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:10:56pm |
re: #529 mama winger
Brett Favre never missed a start.
He is a throw back for sure
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Adrenalyn Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:11:03pm |
Nixon also gave us "ping pong diplomacy"
I still have 2 paddles from the Red Chinese Government
by today's standards
the quality is low
but that they came from the great red satan
they are priceless to me
and are enshrined in my home office bookcase
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:11:13pm |
re: #528 Cognito
Very cool, I didn't know that. I'll have to give them another look.
Anyone know other products made in Israel?
unfotunately, human fodder for Palistinian rocket attacks
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:11:37pm |
re: #535 'Nam Grunt
Joe Gilliam of the Steelers would have been the greatest if he hadn't taken to drug road!
Yeah, that was sad.
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nikis-knight Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:11:46pm |
re: #86 madisonsfriend
Wrath, I agree with you. I find it beyond offensive when people decide to call others they don't like Nazis. Democrats are not Nazis and I even am offended by someone suggesting that the Democratic party be outlawed. This is America and half of our population are not Nazis. My father and my uncles fought in WWII - they knew(all passed on now) what the Nazis were about and what they did- even more so because we are Jewish. I guess the person who started this really doesn't know what the Nazis did- or is not affected by it enough to refrain from throwing the word "Nazi" around.
Not even every Fascist should be called Nazis, as they added the genocide to the totalitarianism for a special, unique brand of evil.
I would say not even every communist should be called 'soviet', except that pretty much every communist DID resort to mass slaughter. A special, sadly common, brand of evil.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:11:46pm |
re: #535 'Nam Grunt
Joe Gilliam of the Steelers would have been the greatest if he hadn't taken to drug road!
Not sure about Gilliam. The biggest bust of all - Ryan Leaf!
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:11:52pm |
re: #322 wolfie
I bought my first car in 1973. It was a 1961 Plymouth Valiant coupe with PUSH-BUTTON automatic transmission ! Cost me $100. Believe it or not, it was a great car, though I named him Rusty for a good reason.
I sold it for $100 in 1977, the day Elvis died. Heard about him on the radio on the way back from the DMV.
Did you assume that Elvis exploded, like I did?
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Vergeltung Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:11:57pm |
re: #528 Cognito
Very cool, I didn't know that. I'll have to give them another look.
Anyone know other products made in Israel?
some really delicious baked sesame sticks they sell here at the courthouse cafe. man, they are addicting! :)
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:12:16pm |
re: #543 Joel
Not sure about Gilliam. The biggest bust of all - Ryan Leaf!
And what a pleasant guy to boot!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:12:55pm |
re: #539 Adrenalyn
Nixon also gave us "ping pong diplomacy"
I still have 2 paddles from the Red Chinese Government
Who are you ,, Forrest Gump ?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:12:55pm |
re: #524 godfrey
DUH. If May was important because it was full of good news, you can bet your a** there'd be a "relative lull in news coverage."
"Odd" - *snort*
No news is good news, especially if it comes out of Iraq.
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:13:20pm |
re: #546 buzzsawmonkey
Beautifeel shoes, for women, are made in Israel. They make an astonishing number of very interesting styles, many of them with nice, wide toes and intelligent heels.
Some of my drugs are made in Israel. Thank you, Israelis. You keep me sane. :)
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:13:30pm |
re: #527 buzzsawmonkey
Mr. Silhouette and I laugh at the "natural" qualifier for sea salt. As if rock salt is made by DeathChemCo.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:13:32pm |
re: #495 Silhouette
Very few presidents combine a genius for domestic affairs with a genius for foriegn affairs. It's usually one or the other.
I kinda like the EPA as an idea, although like most government, it should be about 1/100th the size/influence it actually is.
* * *
It's on steroids now, as climate change is now a global government industry with no one cutting back, only adding exponentially.
Corporations needs environmental lawyers to interpret & keep them from running afoul of tons of new green laws.
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Alouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:13:33pm |
re: #528 Cognito
Very cool, I didn't know that. I'll have to give them another look.
Anyone know other products made in Israel?
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:13:41pm |
re: #546 buzzsawmonkey
Buzz, what's the vegan line on nanotechnology? "Organic compounds only"?
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:13:49pm |
re: #547 Nevergiveup
And what a pleasant guy to boot!
From the Class of 1983 more busts - Ken O'Brien, Tony Eason, andTodd Blackledge. Other later busts - Todd Marinovich.
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:10pm |
re: #511 joncelli
Oh, I remember Sonny's passes -- insanely ugly, but they got there (or am I thinking of Billy Kilmer?).
You're thinking of Billy Kilmer.
The toughness of Bret Favre. Shrewd & effective, but hilariously awkward.
Nothing ugly about Sonny's passes, to put it mildly.
And no one before or since has run a 2-minute drill like him.
diehard Redskins fan!
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:14pm |
re: #527 buzzsawmonkey
The fantasy that diseased cows are culled for hippie footwear gives one an interesting insight into the delusions of the PC.
Here's a similar story; many years ago, my girlfriend attempted to sell a red Coach handbag through the newsletter at the food co-op we were both members of. She got a call from a potential purchaser whose interest snapped off short when she got an affirmative answer to the question, "Is the leather dyed?" Apparently the would-be purchaser was under the impression that red handbags are made from the hides of red cows, or something. She didn't mind owning something of animal hide, but G-d forbid that it not be "natural."
I don't even try to understand PC-ism. I couldn't then, and I am much less patient now to try and do so. As for the red cow hide, She obviously was not up on her "old testament" was she - missing the significance of a red hefer and all. HAAA the red herfer killed for a coach bag. That sounds like the makings of a good story.
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ec marm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:21pm |
re: #497 'Nam Grunt
Charles will dispose of him post haste when he tires of his BS. ;-)
I don't know. If you are ever in the mood to argue without hopes of winning, Cognito can be a good way to burn some time. He usually doesn't disintegrate into a stream of expletives or imaginary yachts, impossible IQ scores, or other fun stuff. Best to scroll over if you don't want to play his game.
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debutaunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:21pm |
re: #334 rawmuse
The best thing that "The Love Boat" had going for it was the theme song, which was sung by Jack Jones, a guy who has great pipes.
I've been looking for his version of 'Bewitched'. Wonderful!
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:30pm |
re: #546 buzzsawmonkey
Beautifeel shoes, for women, are made in Israel. They make an astonishing number of very interesting styles, many of them with nice, wide toes and intelligent heels.
I also think -- and I'm only half-kidding here -- that part of the animosity from surrounding countries toward Israel is jealousy over the quality and variety of their ice cream.
I've never seen or tasted such stuff in my life.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:41pm |
re: #543 Joel
Not sure about Gilliam. The biggest bust of all - Ryan Leaf!
He was even featured in the "Ten Biggest Draft Busts" show I saw on NFL Network, right before this year's draft. IIRC, he was Number One.
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razorbacker Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:46pm |
I was asst. mgr. of a Wally World the day Elvis died. I actually had to send four women home.
They were crying so hard that they couldn't work.
Man, I doubt that my wife and daughter will cry that hard when I die.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:47pm |
re: #536 wolfie
You can thank an activist judges' reinterpretation of the Commerce Clause for that.
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beblebrox Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:14:51pm |
re: #539 Adrenalyn
Nixon also gave us "ping pong diplomacy"
I still have 2 paddles from the Red Chinese Government
by today's standards
the quality is lowbut that they came from the great red satan
they are priceless to me
and are enshrined in my home office bookcase
I QSL'ed the Radio Peiking back in the early 70's. i got on their mailing list and every year during the late Cultural Revolution got a calendar in the mail with such stirring monthly art as "The New Physician Goes Off To Assist The Farmers With The Harvest" and other such tripe.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:15:03pm |
re: #467 jcm
After 4 decades and trillions of dollars on the "Great Society" lemon doesn't begin to describe it.
Ronald Reagan, "In the sixties we waged a war on poverty, and poverty won."
Randall Cunningham could throw a ball pretty well.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:15:33pm |
re: #562 Ward Cleaver
He was even featured in the "Ten Biggest Draft Busts" show I saw on NFL Network, right before this year's draft. IIRC, he was Number One.
was Brian Bosworth on that list?
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Widow'smight Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:15:55pm |
re: #506 buzzsawmonkey
West of Cleveland, near Sandusky and Cedar Point Amusement Park.
There are 5 Islands out on the Lake, with South Bass being the most Popular. A bunch of Bars/Restaurants on the Island, and a couple other things to do.
Admiral Perry Historical Museum there also where they fire replica Cannons and rifles.
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:15:56pm |
re: #546 buzzsawmonkey
For pun reason, "Beautifeel" has a buzzsawmonkey ring to it.
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bellamags Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:03pm |
Since some of us are talking about speed limits and road rules, I have thought traffic laws and speed limits are a micro-version of liberal society.
-There are limits as to how fast you can progress.
-Drivers who drive SLOW in the left hand lane slow it down for ALL and rarely get ticketed or warned, but those who go FAST get the tickets. If you want to pass someone, they block you.
-Stop lights and stop signs (having to stop even on a deserted street) are dumbing everyone down. It seems to me the traffic moves better when the street lights are out.
-The government makes money if you follow the rules OR break them.
-If you have one limb and one working eye, you can get a license and participate.
-The driving test is too easy.
-You do NOT have the right to drive, it is a privilege.
-Insurance is REQUIRED.
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ec marm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:18pm |
re: #550 mama winger
Some of my drugs are made in Israel. Thank you, Israelis. You keep me sane. :)
Self report. Notorious for inaccuracy. (Psychology 101)
:~)
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nikis-knight Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:22pm |
re: #163 Kosh's Shadow
Here's why Obama is loved by the young:
Read the whole thing.
"Change" and "Hope" ? Cool.
What's that other dude saying? Man, that takes too long to listen to.
/young idiot mode off
Anyone up for raising the voting age again?
Nah, why bother, they don't show up anyway. Elections are so much more boring than rallies, man! Unless Obama could get a free rock concert at every polling place?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:31pm |
re: #568 Joel
was Brian Bosworth on that list?
Oh yeah. I saw it too.
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patrap Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:32pm |
"bullcutter" on digg has submitted this article and completely misrepresents it. Again.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:38pm |
re: #509 WrathofG-d
Who died and left the Fed Gov in charge of how fast I can drive?
Is there nothing they wish to controll?
* * *
If people are driving on government built roads where fellow taxpayers drive, it probably is their business.
What, we should have AUTOBAHNS and germanic road warriors?
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:41pm |
Sara's Prints childrens pajamas are made in Israel.
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:16:53pm |
re: #561 taxfreekiller
On Cognito:
That and he will not say one bad thing about traitors like John F'n Kerry.
Wow. I learn something new about myself every day.
Here's an idea: Talk about something more interesting. Like Jimmy Carter's goofball advertisment. Or like Israeli products.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:17:15pm |
re: #556 wolfie
I agree about Kilmer (see my 515)
Today, Manning (Peyton) and Brady do the 2 minute thing great
(both are so calm they look like they have 2 HOURS left, not 2 minutes)
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:17:24pm |
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:17:37pm |
re: #568 Joel
was Brian Bosworth on that list?
I forget, was he just a straight out bust or did he get hurt?
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:17:41pm |
re: #574 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I remember Bo Jackson running right over him. Now there was a guy who threw it all way playing his "hobby". With the lousy pitching in baseball he could have hit 500 lifetime Home runs.
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:17:47pm |
re: #546 buzzsawmonkey
nice, wide toes and intelligent heels.
When I finally get to Israel, I will be sure to look them up! :)
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:18:31pm |
re: #584 Nevergiveup
I forget, was he just a straight out bust or did he get hurt?
A straight bust.
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formercorpsman Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:18:34pm |
re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Actually could punt too.
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:18:40pm |
re: #544 debutaunt
Did you assume that Elvis exploded, like I did?
Blasphemy!
But since you mentioned it, it did cross my mind! :D
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Racer X Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:19:10pm |
Save us o-Barry-one-no-whitey! You're our only hope!
Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad predicted on Monday that Muslims would uproot "satanic powers" and repeated his controversial belief that Israel will soon disappear, the Mehr news agency reported.
"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said."Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."
"I tell you that with the unity and awareness of all the Islamic countries all the satanic powers will soon be destroyed," he said to a group of foreign visitors ahead of the 19th anniversary of the death of revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
Ahmadinejad also again expressed his apocalyptic vision that tyranny in the world be abolished by the return to earth of the Mahdi, the 12th imam of Shiite Islam, alongside great religious figures including Jesus Christ.
"With the appearance of the promised saviour... and his companions such as Jesus Christ, tyranny will be soon be eradicated in the world."
Ahmadinejad has always been a devotee of the Mahdi, who Shiites believe disappeared more than a thousand years ago and who will return one day to usher in a new era of peace and harmony.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:19:20pm |
re: #590 formercorpsman
Actually could punt too.
Think a 91 yarder? I'm a die hard cowboys fan, but Randall got my spect!
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:19:31pm |
re: #586 Ma Sands
When I finally get to Israel, I will be sure to look them up! :)
You and I should go together. Wouldn't that be great ?!
Someday, before I die. I swear.
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zombie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:19:56pm |
OK, for anyone interested:
After some searching, I tracked down this Mac program:
I've already tried it on a sample video -- seems to do exactly what I wanted!
Tentatively recommended to Mac-based video YouTube users.
You can't do any fancy editing, but it seems to allow "lopping off" portions very nicely. Resulting file: small file file, quality unchanged from original!
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:19:57pm |
re: #522 Joel
Yes I mentioned that. He also gave away wheat to the USSR at bargain prices and initiated "Detente" with the USSR. JFK cut taxes across the board, Nixon never did.
* * *
Sock it to you? How else could Nixon afford the NASA moon travel, Vietnam War, China trips, helping Israel beat her unfriendly radically violent neighbors, and Great Society taxgobbling programs Johnson established?
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:20:13pm |
re: #592 buzzsawmonkey
Check out their website; I provided the link upthread. They are sold here, not just in Israel.
I like the red ones.
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formercorpsman Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:20:29pm |
re: #594 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It was far, I remember that.
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:21:33pm |
OT -
Anyone here notice who is way out ahead in first place in Major League Baseball?
oh yeah - that would be my Cubbies.
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formercorpsman Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:21:44pm |
Just heard the audio of that woman mad about Hillary.
I really, really, really, hope they take to the convention.
Really.
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:06pm |
re: #592 buzzsawmonkey
Oh! I was so fascinated with the slide show, I forgot to look further! :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:06pm |
re: #600 formercorpsman
He was actually pretty slight, but damn he could take a hit (or better evade a hit). He's one of my all time faves.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:35pm |
re: #550 mama winger
Some of my drugs are made in Israel. Thank you, Israelis. You keep me sane. :)
* * *
Pharmaceutical generics that is!
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:36pm |
re: #605 buzzsawmonkey
I need to send you a cautionary Hans Christian Andersen tale.
I'll be okay as long as the only place I wear them to is the vet.
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ec marm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:49pm |
re: #578 Cognito
Or like Israeli products.
Their wine is good if you can find it in your area.
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RickZ Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:52pm |
re: #526 Nevergiveup
Alot of the great Quarterbacks like Sonny, Namath, etc had no fear. They would get picked off or pounded, get back up and throw it down field on the next play.
And Unitas. God help the lineman responsible for Unitas getting hit. The huddle afterwards was a very small place and Unitas had a big mouth.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:55pm |
re: #568 Joel
was Brian Bosworth on that list?
Yes! Along with Tony Mandarich. I was just about to post their names.
Bosworth once claimed that when he worked in the GM assembly plant in Oklahoma City that he hid glass soda bottles in inaccessible places in new cars, to drive owners crazy. What a jerk. Of course it could have been BS.
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zombie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:57pm |
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. Hope my solution keeps working! If not, I'll follow your leads.
Now the last step: will YouTube accept it? I will try now.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:22:58pm |
re: #602 mama winger
OT -
Anyone here notice who is way out ahead in first place in Major League Baseball?
oh yeah - that would be my Cubbies.
But managed by a Former Yankee, and powered by Another. So they have a soft spot in my heart.
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formercorpsman Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:23:05pm |
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'Nam Grunt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:23:12pm |
re: #603 formercorpsman
Although she is a flaming moonbat I kinda' like that Harriet from NY, she gave it to them good! LOL
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:23pm |
re: #611 Ma Sands
I have to scrape some major money together. Or else waith for my kids to send me. As I am astonishingly poor, I'll probably have to go with Plan B.
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razorbacker Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:25pm |
re: #601 Widow'smight
All the way to the bank.
Depends on how well I do on that whole "spend her inheritance" thing.
BBL. I've finally got these intraweb tubies aligned again, and I'm going outside and torque everything back down.
Consarned satellite delivered intraweb. Don't know how much you rely on internet until you don't have it for a few days.
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Alouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:29pm |
re: #612 ec marm
Their wine is good if you can find it in your area.
Golan Heights wine, buy as many cases as you can before Syria takes over.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:33pm |
re: #612 ec marm
Their wine is good if you can find it in your area.
And if and when you make it to Israel, do NOT forget to visit the Golan Winery and take the tour. And take a few bottles home also!
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funkyfantom Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:41pm |
re: #129 ethanxxx
The progressive left has been throwing the accusation of "NAZI" at the republicans for years. There isn't a Damn thing wrong with throwing it back at them. The majority of these historically challenged fools no nothing about Nazism, most don't even know that the word means National Socialist... the exact goal of their own party. In my educated opinion, the only other organization that comes close to paralleling the Nazi Party besides Democrats would be Islam, which is probably why they are such close allies.
Please would someone please flush this 'Democrat=nazi' meme out of here. People have the right to speak their mind of course, but you need a minimum standard for serious discussion.
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:42pm |
Hans says:
“Dance you shall,” said he, “dance in your red shoes till you are pale and cold, till your skin shrivels up and you are a skeleton! Dance you shall, from door to door, and where proud and wicked children live you shall knock, so that they may hear you and fear you! Dance you shall, dance—!”“Mercy!” cried Karen. But she did not hear what the angel answered, for the shoes carried her through the gate into the fields, along highways and byways, and unceasingly she had to dance.
One morning she danced past a door that she knew well; they were singing a psalm inside, and a coffin was being carried out covered with flowers. Then she knew that she was forsaken by every one and damned by the angel of God.
She danced, and was obliged to go on dancing through the dark night. The shoes bore her away over thorns and stumps till she was all torn and bleeding; she danced away over the heath to a lonely little house. Here, she knew, lived the executioner; and she tapped with her finger at the window and said:
“Come out, come out! I cannot come in, for I must dance.”
And the executioner said: “I don’t suppose you know who I am. I strike off the heads of the wicked, and I notice that my axe is tingling to do so.”
“Don’t cut off my head!” said Karen, “for then I could not repent of my sin. But cut off my feet with the red shoes.”
A tale told by a mollah, full of sound and fury?
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azul93gt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:48pm |
432 Ward Cleaver 6/02/08 12:50:25 pm
The 55 started under Nixon, in 1974. I hated that law. I had to live under it until it was repealed in 1995.
THX, I stand corrected. I remember as young person watching some lady from the Carter administration's Dept. of Trans rather arrogantly defending it to the hilt on Night-Line. IIRC One of Reagan's campaign planks was to repeal it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:24:51pm |
re: #619 'Nam Grunt
Harriet is my freakin' hero. And she was absolutely right to be angry. Let's see if she gets some interviews from that. Let's hope so. Mebbe a radio show from the convention in Denver.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:25:05pm |
re: #614 Ward Cleaver
Yes! Along with Tony Mandarich. I was just about to post their names.
Bosworth once claimed that when he worked in the GM assembly plant in Oklahoma City that he hid glass soda bottles in inaccessible places in new cars, to drive owners crazy. What a jerk. Of course it could have been BS.
Bosworth also was a steroids guy
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:25:06pm |
re: #602 mama winger
OT -
Anyone here notice who is way out ahead in first place in Major League Baseball?
oh yeah - that would be my Cubbies.
Hi Mama...I am going to the Cubs spring training thing next year. My friend is bringing me this time. I am hoping it will be with the World Series Champion Cubs Camp.
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:25:21pm |
re: #617 formercorpsman
Ok today is 06/02/2008.
I'll give you my condolences in August.
There will be NONE OF THAT negativity, my dear young man! NO NO NO !
:)
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:26:13pm |
re: #630 NJDhockeyfan
Hi Mama...I am going to the Cubs spring training thing next year. My friend is bringing me this time. I am hoping it will be with the World Series Champion Cubs Camp.
Oh it will be - it will be! THIS YEAR is the Year !
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Bob in Breckenridge Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:26:23pm |
re: #555 Joel
From the Class of 1983 more busts - Ken O'Brien, Tony Eason, andTodd Blackledge. Other later busts - Todd Marinovich.
Tony Eason was not a bust. He took the Patriots to Super Bowl XX in 1986, where they were destroyed by the Super Bowl Shufflin' Bears 48-10.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:26:33pm |
Are we no longer discussing Obama and Carter :+: Barak O'Carter.
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:26:47pm |
re: #602 mama winger
It's June. Get back to us in September. :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:26:48pm |
re: #633 'Nam Grunt
She's on Cavuto now!
OH SHITE! WOO HOO!
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Ma Sands Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:26:49pm |
re: #620 mama winger
Me, too...but, there's other ways, too: "With Him, all things are possible." :)
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razorbacker Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:26:53pm |
re: #631 mama winger
There will be NONE OF THAT negativity, my dear young man! NO NO NO !
:)
Those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it.
Someone famous said that. Don't remember who.
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formercorpsman Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:27:05pm |
re: #619 'Nam Grunt
I only heard the audio.
I am sure the video would be grand.
The hypocrisy with democrats complaining about what you can't say is immeasurable.
Did you ever think you would see the day?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:27:08pm |
re: #602 mama winger
OT -
Anyone here notice who is way out ahead in first place in Major League Baseball?
oh yeah - that would be my Cubbies.
HOLD THE WEDDIN' ,,,
Cubs ,, 36-21
Red Sox (yes ,, that would be the WORLD CHAMPION Red Sox) ,, 35-24.
By my humble calculations, that would be a 2 game difference, with the Sox playing in a far tougher division
MAMA ,, I love ya, and I would love to see a Cub/ Sos world series (imagine, Wrigley and Fenway),, BUT ,,, GO SOX ! !
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:27:20pm |
re: #627 azul93gt
432 Ward Cleaver 6/02/08 12:50:25 pm
THX, I stand corrected. I remember as young person watching some lady from the Carter administration's Dept. of Trans rather arrogantly defending it to the hilt on Night-Line. IIRC One of Reagan's campaign planks was to repeal it.
Probably because Carter kept it alive. One of its biggest defenders was Sen. James Exon of Nebraska (another Dem).
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Cognito Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:27:48pm |
re: #612 ec marm
Their wine is good if you can find it in your area.
Interesting -- I hadn't heard that. I'll have to take a look around.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:27:52pm |
re: #618 buzzsawmonkey
Or Moira Shearer, in The Red Shoes, the Greatest Ballet Movie Ever Made.
Based on the Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale. Scared the shit outta me when I was a little girl.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:27:54pm |
re: #637 WrathofG-d
Are we no longer discussing Obama and Carter :+: Barak O'Carter.
Sometimes even us die hard conservative political junkies need a little break.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:28:26pm |
re: #641 razorbacker
Those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it.
Someone famous said that. Don't remember who.
Some Cub's fan I think.
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:28:26pm |
No one may speak to me unless they are rooting for the Cubs.
That is all.
/
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:28:33pm |
re: #636 Bob in Breckenridge
Tony Eason was not a bust. He took the Patriots to Super Bowl XX in 1986, where they were destroyed by the Super Bowl Shufflin' Bears 48-10.
Hey Stan Humphries of San Diego Chragers went to the Super Bowl and Trent Dilfer of the Baltimore Ravens actually won a Super Bowl.
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Widow'smight Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:28:37pm |
re: #602 mama winger
Dear,
Don't look back, the Phillies are breathing down your neck. What does that sign across the street in right field say?
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:28:50pm |
re: #618 buzzsawmonkey
Or Moira Shearer, in The Red Shoes, the Greatest Ballet Movie Ever Made.
* * *
Please include as dance top 10:
American in Paris, Gene Kelly & a young french woman to a George Gershwin score
Anchors Aweigh, Gene Kelly & Frank Sinatra
Gene Kelly in anything with Cid Charisse.
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Bob in Breckenridge Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:29:07pm |
re: #602 mama winger
OT -
Anyone here notice who is way out ahead in first place in Major League Baseball?
oh yeah - that would be my Cubbies.
mw- The Cubs have the best record in baseball. The last time they had the best record in baseball in June was in 1908- When they last won the world series! And they start a 3 game series tonight against the awful San Diego Padres.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:29:19pm |
re: #629 Joel
Bosworth also was a steroids guy
Yeah, that got him kicked off the team at OU.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:29:26pm |
re: #651 Nevergiveup
Some Cub's fan I think.
I don't think history repeats itself as much as historians repeat each other.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:29:34pm |
Oh gosh! Harriet just let the competing networks have it for their "Obama Love".
Heh.
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:29:54pm |
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:29:55pm |
re: #645 Ward Cleaver
Probably because Carter kept it alive. One of its biggest defenders was Sen. James Exon of Nebraska (another Dem).
Scary thing is, we have some Dems who want it back.
As far as I am concerned, no speed limit on a freeway/tollway should ever be set until an engineering study has been performed (including the 85th percentile test). Keep the politicians out of it.
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:30:03pm |
re: #644 buzzsawmonkey
Those stories all sound pretty Grimm.
Still, I prefer them all to most of the idiotic, stuff-me-full-of-jellied-PC-ideological nonsense published under the guise of "children's literature" these days.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:30:59pm |
re: #664 MandyManners
She is certainly well spoken.
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:31:02pm |
OT - I did not know that the UK gave a knighthood to Mugabe in 1994.
So I should call him Sir asshole dictator scum?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:31:17pm |
re: #658 Joel
I don't think history repeats itself as much as historians repeat each other.
I think the correct term is steal or plagiarize. Ask Doris Kerns Goodwin?
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WrathofG-d Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:12pm |
re: #649 Nevergiveup
Sounds like we could use an open thread then.
Until then...did you know that today is Yom Yerushalayim?
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:17pm |
re: #669 MandyManners
She's also a moonbat.
Right up the Obamamessiah's alley then.
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:26pm |
re: #650 buzzsawmonkey
Rudolf Nureyev? Was he wearing shiny hose?
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bellamags Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:29pm |
do you think Neal was trying not to laugh at the end there?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:31pm |
re: #669 MandyManners
She's also a moonbat.
Yeah, but a moonbat who is going to vote for McCain.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:41pm |
re: #628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Harriet is my freakin' hero. And she was absolutely right to be angry. Let's see if she gets some interviews from that. Let's hope so. Mebbe a radio show from the convention in Denver.
* * *
Geraldine Ferraro keeps cool while pointing out what's not right on the left.
Ms. Ferraro has more guts than Al Gore, though she didn't get to be Vice President. She is worthy of respect for daring to challenge the koolaid drinkers in her own party.
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Sizzlack Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:52pm |
This woman is just one of many people who feel this way. Here in NYC I have run into at least 3 people who I know are very liberal yet have told me they simply could not in good conscience vote for someone like Obama, and will more than likely vote for McCain. And when they say that they almost shudder, but they still plan on doing so.
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snowcrash Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:32:53pm |
re: #528 Cognito
Gottex swimsuits made in Israel. High end ladies suits. Lovely styling and have been on Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition covers.
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:01pm |
re: #676 Nevergiveup
Yeah, but a moonbat who is going to vote for McCain.
Yup.
There are thousands of them just like her too. Hopefully millions.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:05pm |
re: #661 Honorary Yooper
Scary thing is, we have some Dems who want it back.
As far as I am concerned, no speed limit on a freeway/tollway should ever be set until an engineering study has been performed (including the 85th percentile test). Keep the politicians out of it.
A client of mine just got back from a trip to Germany (getting over divorce) specifically to play on the autobahn. He rented a souped up 911 and told me that he had trouble getting over 185 mph - not because of the car, but his nerves and blood pressure. I think we could learn a little from German highway engineers.
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:16pm |
re: #667 Nevergiveup
I think the correct term is steal or plagiarize. Ask Doris Kerns Goodwin?
And Stephen "Eisenhower was the greatest General and President of all time" Ambrose if he were not already deceased.
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godfrey Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:20pm |
Ah, the Baryshnikov. There aren't many dancers of his caliber.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:21pm |
re: #671 WrathofG-d
Sounds like we could use an open thread then.
Until then...did you know that today is Yom Yerushalayim?
No I missed that. June 2? That is not the day it was reunited?
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:30pm |
A government watchdog says NASA's press office "marginalized, or mischaracterized" studies on global warming between 2004 and 2006.The NASA inspector general's report called it "inappropriate political interference."
The report issued Monday found that the agency's top management wasn't part of censorship, nor were career officials. It blamed "political appointees."
Gee, I wonder in which direction it mischaracterized and marginalized studies. Let me get a crack at this. It mischaracterized those reports claiming that there was an increase in temps (saying it was a bigger increase than they otherwise could claim?), and it marginalized those that showed no such thing.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:30pm |
re: #650 buzzsawmonkey
I once sat two tables over from Rudolf Nureyev in a Paris restaurant. That was cool.
The Biography was fascinating.
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Bob in Breckenridge Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:48pm |
re: #653 Joel
Hey Stan Humphries of San Diego Chragers went to the Super Bowl and Trent Dilfer of the Baltimore Ravens actually won a Super Bowl.
So what's your point? Neither of them are busts. They had decent careers.
Now Ryan Leaf, Todd Marinovich, Andre Ware, David Klingler and Tony Mandarich- all high first rounds picks (Although Marinovich was a supplemental draft pick by the Raiders. They WERE busts.
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:33:57pm |
re: #680 Sizzlack
And when they say that they almost shudder, but they still plan on doing so.
So do I. Shudder I mean, over voting for him.
For the opposite reason though.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:34:00pm |
re: #659 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh gosh! Harriet just let the competing networks have it for their "Obama Love".
Heh.
Moonbats for McCain!
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:34:18pm |
re: #667 Nevergiveup
I think the correct term is steal or plagiarize. Ask Doris Kerns Goodwin?
Ouch.
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mattm Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:34:41pm |
re: #13 WrathofG-d
Is it just me or...
(a) does "Change we can believe in", make no sense,
(b) does "Change we can believe in" seem straight out of "1984".
Yes and yes. B. Hussein Obama is an ditiot who lo0oks like a total moron once he does not have his precious teleprompter or is asked a hard question.
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:34:41pm |
re: #652 mama winger
No one may speak to me unless they are rooting for the Cubs.
That is all.
/
Yes, I am rooting for them on Thursday.
To lose that is!
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:35:25pm |
re: #689 Bob in Breckenridge
So what's your point? Neither of them are busts. They had decent careers.
Now Ryan Leaf, Todd Marinovich, Andre Ware, David Klingler and Tony Mandarich- all high first rounds picks (Although Marinovich was a supplemental draft pick by the Raiders. They WERE busts.
I don't think any one would call Humphries or Dilfer good Quarterbacks. Craig Morton also played in two Suepr Bowls. Hardly a good QB although he had a good yer in 1977 when he took Denver to the Super Bowl.
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g3n3r1c Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:35:54pm |
re: #543 Joel
Not sure about Gilliam. The biggest bust of all - Ryan Leaf!
As a Vikes fan we have had alot of busts Demitrus Underwood comes to mind
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:37:00pm |
re: #652 mama winger
No one may speak to me unless they are rooting for the Cubs.
That is all.
/
OK, what if we just don't care about MLB right now as the last game of the Stanley Cup Playoffs could very well be tonight?
/GO WINGS, make it 11!
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wolfie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:37:39pm |
re: #694 DownRightMeanAmerican
Yes, I am rooting for them on Thursday.
To lose that is!
You are DownRight Mean !
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Joel Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:38:46pm |
re: #696 g3n3r1c
As a Vikes fan we have had alot of busts Demitrus Underwood comes to mind
Another mediocre QB to get to the Super Bowl - David Woodley of Miami.
Every team has horror stories of first round draft picks who wound up sucking. For the Giant s- Larry Jacobson and Rocky Thompson.
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bill in tx Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:39:43pm |
History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
- Mark Twain
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azul93gt Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:40:47pm |
I for one welcome BHS as the Dem candidate. He's going to lose in McGovern, Mondale, and Dukakis like fashion.
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:40:49pm |
re: #699 wolfie
You are DownRight Mean !
I don’t care if they beat the Padres,
but the Dodgers I do care about!
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Silhouette Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:40:57pm |
re: #697 Sizzlack
the lesser of two evils
I watched a clip earlier today of McCain mocking Obama for wanting to meet with Ahmadinejad. At least he is right on Iran.
McCain wants worldwide sanctions, though. I don't think those work nearly as well as direct action, especially when the leaders are shielded both from the deprivations a sanction would cause and from feedback from the populace via an iron boot.
Nonetheless, McCain is right to say that the leadership of Iran would look very different if the people were allowed to freely choose it.
And then he added that we will stand with Israel, so the more and more McCain talks, the less I'm thinking my nose will have to be held on election day.
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mama winger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:41:31pm |
re: #703 DownRightMeanAmerican
I don’t care if they beat the Padres,
but the Dodgers I do care about!
They just swept the Dodgers. :)
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:42:36pm |
re: #676 Nevergiveup
Yeah, but a moonbat who is going to vote for McCain.
* * *
McCain is smart to woo women dissed by dems.
McCain was smart to call Pfleger disgraceful for trashing Senator Clinton.
McCain is smart to defend people dishonored by hacks.
What MALE democrat has stood up to these embarassing creeps who only now have courage to bash the Clintons?
Dems feared the Clintons, could never stand up to them with courage. Had to wait unti they were down, like cowards.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:45:10pm |
re: #263 RickZ
Didn't the Corvair have the automatic shift push-buttons on the dash, to the right of the sterring wheel? Whoever thought that design feature up was a real [deleted].
No, Corvairs with a Powerglide (a simple and bulletproof tranny if there ever was one) have a little lever under the dash (early models) or a little lever on the dash (late models). No Park position. But, you can actually push start a Corvair with a 'Glide, and you can tow one at any speed with the rear wheels on the ground, because the pump runs anytime the wheels are turning.
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:45:30pm |
re: #449 'Nam Grunt
Geeesh. He ain't a moby - just our resident OBFUSCATER.
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:46:23pm |
re: #691 Ward Cleaver
Moonbats for McCain!
* * *
To refute the canard he'd be a 3rd Bush term, all McCain has to do is whip out the "McCain is a pain in the Bush" buttons someone put out in 2000.
Yes, they exist.
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LC LaWedgie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:48:57pm |
The Party of Democrats: Superficially Stuck on Stupid No Longer...
...We're Marinated!
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Widow'smight Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:50:49pm |
re: #705 mama winger
Might be out there the end of this month. I've already been to Wrigley for 4 games, actually got a free Cubs visor once. Visors don't do me any good, my bald spot will still get burned.
We'll see in August when the Phillies play there.
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zombie Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:51:55pm |
Woo-hoo! YouTube accepted the video!
Now my video problems are (mostly) gone!
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:52:12pm |
re: #705 mama winger
They just swept the Dodgers. :)
I am going to pretend I didn’t read that.
Hopeful it will be reversed this time around.
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Endangered in MASS Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:54:09pm |
re: #504 sattv4u2
The Turk.
Left the NHL to play in the WHL fro a $1 million. Went broke became an alcy living under a bridge. Cleaned up became the color man on the Bruins telecasts. He can barely walk but has been the club champ at the Ridge club on the Cape.Scratch golfer.
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Israel4ever Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:56:06pm |
my mom voted for Carter.
Never voted Democrat again.
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yochanan Mon, Jun 2, 2008 1:56:36pm |
re: #529 mama winger
Brett Favre never missed a start.
i am a bear fan but Brett Favre was a Iron man. hall of fame
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grumpy old codger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:00:05pm |
OT
Did Realwest get the answers he was looking for about diabetes?
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alegrias Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:02:20pm |
re: #721 grumpy old codger
OT
Did Realwest get the answers he was looking for about diabetes?
* * *
Don't know but thought about him after coming across "Diabetes for Dummies" and a Prevention publication on Outsmarting Diabetes in the family bookshelf. There's so much to learn about this horrible sneaky disease.
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rawmuse Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:10:08pm |
re: #634 Iron Fist
,
The Uzi is made by IMI. I don't know if they have resumed production since the assault weapons ban ended, but they are fun little guns :-)
If you're going to get one, don't dawdle. I have a feeling these will be banned outright regardless of who our next President is.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:15:17pm |
re: #4 SalsaNChips
Is that "Meat Head" in the blue shirt and pants?
Damn! I came here to say that!
The 2nd guy he shakes hands with looks like Dukakis.
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norar Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:22:59pm |
Well, Carter delivered change - the change of regime in Iran, that brought all the Muslim world into jihad frenzy
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right_on_target Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:38:15pm |
re: #411 Silhouette
Speaking of Kelvinators, my parent's bought a Kelvinator fridge to furnish their new home when they got married. They moved 5 times and two states, and that thing was still going strong around 30 years later. They couldn't get a new one because they were both raised not to waste money and that one was still working fine.
Finally, we talked them into moving it to the garage for "overflow" and they have one from this century.
Actually, Kelvinator refrigerators were great. Their washers and dryers were junk. I changed many "baffle gaskets" and CORK clutches on Kelvinator washers that were only months old back then [in the '60s].
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Fasternu426 Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:48:48pm |
Did anyone notice that the guy in the still with Carter looks a lot like Meathead from All in the Family?
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Jun 2, 2008 2:53:25pm |
Late on this Thread, and no time to read 700+ comments, if it hasn't been said before, let me say it now. "A Leader for a Change," was one slogan, another was "Why Not the Best," of all things. Still wondering about that one, maybe we got it in 1980!
-S-
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Whale Watcher Mon, Jun 2, 2008 3:01:02pm |
I'd almost forgotten just how much the 70's sucked.
Thanks for the reminder, Charles.
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Bosch Fawstin Mon, Jun 2, 2008 3:01:20pm |
If McCain had the nerve, he'd constantly paint Obama as one who can challenge Carter for Worst President status. And how about some real change in this dangerous world.
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Bosch Fawstin Mon, Jun 2, 2008 3:04:58pm |
Broken link, here's the kind of change I was talking about.
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right_on_target Mon, Jun 2, 2008 3:11:28pm |
re: #484 Ojoe
For real submerged skullduggery, check out the story of the
Glomar Explorer
That ship needs to be mothballed! Asbestos everywhere. I remember seeing signs in the restrooms on the rig [after it did a tour off the coast of Africa] that said "Do not stand on toilet".
Living quarters are horrible, especially in the bow section.
There are many NEWER drill ships that are FAR better.
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grumpy old codger Mon, Jun 2, 2008 3:52:46pm |
re: #320 jcm
Backward, Oh, Backward, Oh Time in your flight,
And make me a child again, just for tonight!
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madisonsfriend Mon, Jun 2, 2008 4:08:19pm |
I have a pair of beautifeel shoes-red ones- but older and several pairs of Gazith and my stomach medicine comes from Israel- but I bought it all here. I didn't have good luck with my shoe shopping in Israel- the shoes were narrower(or maybe my feet had swelled from the heat and endless walking?). My next trip - I am definitely going to buy more shoes.
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Colonel Panik Mon, Jun 2, 2008 4:11:42pm |
re: #43 Ward Cleaver
The Dodge Aspen (Rex Harrison singing, "Unbelievable") and Plymouth Volare!
The Ford Granada! "It looks like a Mercedes!"
Chrysler Cordoba! With fine Corinthian leather!
/Ricardo Montalban off
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Colonel Panik Mon, Jun 2, 2008 4:15:46pm |
re: #140 reine.de.tout
I had a Vega, along with a couple of friends who had the same model-year. WORST CAR EVER MADE. All of our cars died beyond repair within 4 weeks of each other, approximately 3 years to the date after purchase.
It had an aluminum engine block that was prone to warping. Compared to the Vega, the Pinto was a half way decent car, once they put the plastic buffer around the bolt that punctured the fuel tank in rear end collisions.
And no discourse on the subject of 1970's automotive horrors would be complete without the Gremlin and the Pacer!
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justiceforall Mon, Jun 2, 2008 4:39:46pm |
Hey, Charles, why don’t you run for president with the slogan, “Status quo!”?
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bubbasbbq Mon, Jun 2, 2008 4:41:07pm |
The term snake oil seems to be especially appropriate here. It seems to fit these phoney peddlers of patent medicine to a T.
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Genosaurer Mon, Jun 2, 2008 4:50:57pm |
re: #710 buzzsawmonkey
Cartoons, of course, used to deal with some of these horrors. I still remember with a shudder a cartoon that ran on the old Mickey Mouse Club, wherein a baby plays with matches and ends up being chased, in a nightmarish sequence, by a number of malevolent matches with burning heads. The Fleischer cartoons mostly deal with sex and death. The banishing of early cartoons from the airwaves on the grounds that they are no longer PC, and their replacement with the vapid Tiny Toons, was very sad.
When I was a kid I used to like watching a tape of old superhero cartoons that had, among other things, Jungle Drums on it. I can't imagine them showing anything like that on TV today - politically correct it is not!
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Red Square Mon, Jun 2, 2008 5:10:19pm |
All your change are belong to us!
And all your paper bills too.
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BruceKelly Mon, Jun 2, 2008 8:57:10pm |
re: #737 Colonel Panik
Don't forget the Ford Pinto, although I like saying the word. Repeat Pinto several times to yourself and it seems to loose meaning... pinto... pinto...
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jdow-antijihad Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:24:20am |
I heard those Jimmuh Catah ads in 1976. He promised change. The nation should have learned that change can be for the worse as well as for the better. Peanut proves the worse part.
Change for the sake of change throws away all the successes as well as all the failures. That is all Peanut promised. That's all his delayed replay promises. Is Obama worth the risk?
{^_^}
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