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IBD: Obama's Plan to Disarm America

Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:16:56 pm PDT

Investors Business Daily looks at another policy statement from Barack Obama that has gotten almost no media coverage: Obama’s Plan To Disarm The U.S.

The Obamatons [Hey, that sounds familiar! – ed.] of the mainstream media have failed to report one of the most chilling campaign promises thus far uttered by the presumptive Democrat nominee for president.

He made it before the Iowa caucus to a left-wing pacifist group that seeks to reallocate defense dollars to welfare programs. The lobbying group, Caucus for Priorities, was so impressed by Obama’s anti-military offering that it steered its 10,000 devotees his way.

In a 132-word videotaped pledge (still viewable on YouTube), Obama agreed to hollow out the U.S. military by slashing both conventional and nuclear weapons.

The scope of his planned defense cuts, combined with his angry tone, is breathtaking. He sounds as if the military is the enemy, not the bad guys it’s fighting. Here is a transcript:

“I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning; and as president, I will end it.

“Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems.

“I will institute an independent defense priorities board to ensure that the Quadrennial Review is not used to justify unnecessary defense spending.

“Third, I will set a goal for a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenal.”

You can bet that Obama will not make this sweeping indictment of our security forces again as he tries to move to the center in the general election. But this is what he thinks, and this is what he plans to do.

UPDATE at 6/7/08 2:23:24 pm:

Here’s the video:

Youtube Video

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1 unrealizedviewpoint  6/07/08 2:17:55 pm reply quote 17

About time we start seeing this somewhere.

2 galloping granny  6/07/08 2:18:46 pm reply quote 8

So, what are his plans for signing over the nation and turning out the lights on Capitol Hill?

3 Ma Sands  6/07/08 2:18:48 pm reply quote 3

Wouldn't it be neat if this were just more empty campaign promises..... :)


/ ):

4 Athos  6/07/08 2:19:37 pm reply quote 21

Reagan brought us peace through strength.

Obama will bring us the illusion of peace from the reality of surrender.

5 winston06  6/07/08 2:19:49 pm reply quote 2

A typical democrats' stance on defense of America

6 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:20:30 pm reply quote 7

If that idiot has his way there will be another World War. And there's no guarantee that we will survive it let alone win it.

7 vbspurs  6/07/08 2:20:45 pm reply quote 6

The rooster has come home to chicken.

8 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:20:57 pm reply quote 0

nothing to see here, move along, now.

9 VegasRick  6/07/08 2:21:26 pm reply quote 9

re: #6 The Other Les

If that idiot has his way there will be another World War. And there's no guarantee that we will survive it let alone win it.

This guy is really dangerous for us.

10 HelloDare  6/07/08 2:22:17 pm reply quote 1

The best the democrats have to offer. BHO.

11 gibsonz  6/07/08 2:22:47 pm reply quote 3

The guy is fast becoming...Moonbat Public Enemy #1

12 nyc redneck  6/07/08 2:23:40 pm reply quote 17

individual citizens who don't own guns should now arm themselves.
the 2nd amendment will be his next focus.

13 HelloDare  6/07/08 2:25:13 pm reply quote 4
14 kevinmumaw  6/07/08 2:25:16 pm reply quote 0

Sounds like another potential McCain ad in the fall.

15 VegasRick  6/07/08 2:25:19 pm reply quote 1

re: #12 nyc redneck

individual citizens who don't own guns should now arm themselves.
the 2nd amendment will be his next focus.

Great advise. I already own but plan to get a couple more.

16 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:25:25 pm reply quote 1

re: #12 nyc redneck


2 9mm, a 45, a 38, and 3 22s.

17 Killian Bundy  6/07/08 2:26:01 pm reply quote 5
Investors Business Daily looks at another policy statement from Barack Obama that has gotten almost no media coverage: Obama’s Plan To Disarm The U.S.

/here's the video

18 vapig  6/07/08 2:26:51 pm reply quote 6

This man is terrifyingly dangerous.

19 HelloDare  6/07/08 2:26:58 pm reply quote 0

re: #13 HelloDare

I see Killian Bundy spun the link off already.

20 Robert O.  6/07/08 2:27:00 pm reply quote -1

For those interested, Operation Chaos continues:

[...] So as the commander-in-chief of US Operation Chaos, I would like to urge all of you who want to, to go to HillaryClinton.com and tell her what you think she ought to do.

Now, I want you to be polite. I don't want any snide comments, and I know that people have already done that, but I want those of you who are part of this audience to say whatever is in your heart to Mrs. Clinton about her effort to continue here, within the spirit of Operation Chaos, keeping chaos alive.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]


All of us can be foot soldiers in this. For example, on YouTube, in the comments section of NYT, WaPo (etc), we can write messages of support and utmost sincere admiration for Hillary, honestly explaining why she's the best candidate for the Democrats, while simultaneously explaining the reasons why Obama is not fit to be Commander in Chief. Be sincere when you fawn over Hillary. You want people to know you are truly a diehard Hillary supporter. It may also help to do some gentle trashing of McCain at the same time to prove the point

There is a second part to Operation Choas. A lot of Hillary supporters are fuming at Obama and are contemplating voting for McCain. We can also help pour fuel on the flame by posing as Obama supporters, and write messages trashing Hillary and her supporters. If you go down this path, be rude, be arrogant, and be insulting. You want maximum backlash against Obama from Hillary supporters.

NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO SOW DISCORD if you do NOT want to see B. Hussein Osama (Islam's Manchurian Candidate) become President of the United States. The matter is urgent. Be wise!

21 Ma Sands  6/07/08 2:28:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 vapig

In all ways.....

22 JeremyR  6/07/08 2:28:51 pm reply quote 5

re: #16 dave in NC

2 9mm, a 45, a 38, and 3 22s.

All close range stuff. Get a good hunting rifle and learn to use it. The day is coming when we will need to defend our families and homes from the rising tide of insanity.

23 vbspurs  6/07/08 2:29:37 pm reply quote 8

re: #17 Killian Bundy

/here's the video

Are you serious? I got chills listening to him list his goals to make America militarily weaker. He's Chavez without the beret.

24 MandyManners  6/07/08 2:29:54 pm reply quote 11

That is the BHO that I know.

25 blutonazi98  6/07/08 2:30:33 pm reply quote 2

i don't understand the problem. when the Messiah and his world healing powers are in charge why would anyone need a gun anyway?

26 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  6/07/08 2:30:45 pm 0
27 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:30:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #22 JeremyR


you mean like a 300 yd 270? 30-06?

28 missouri boy  6/07/08 2:30:52 pm reply quote 6

re: #12 nyc redneck

individual citizens who don't own guns should now arm themselves.
the 2nd amendment will be his next focus.

The left has no regard for the constitution. Guns are the only topic, that will unite freedom loving Americans. There are more NRA members than dems and repubs combined.

29 vbspurs  6/07/08 2:31:01 pm reply quote 5

NO, wait, I take that back. Even Chavez would defend his country to the death.

/sad

30 godfrey  6/07/08 2:31:32 pm reply quote 1

Pap.

Everyone over 40 has heard all of this before. It was stupid then, and it is stupid now. Obama is a foreign policy laughingstock.

31 FredWM  6/07/08 2:31:33 pm reply quote 14

I've also heard he plans to hollow out NASA on the theory that as we are at least 5 years ahead of anyone else on the planet we can afford to shift billions of dollars from space exploration into something really important like universal pre-k. Basically, BO believes that the United States is not an exceptional country and anything that tends to support such a view must be eliminated. Goodbye independent foreign policy, space exploration or a robust military. Hello, mega-welfare payments for contemplating your navel.

32 mama winger  6/07/08 2:32:00 pm reply quote 18

I'm tired of sitting in the stairwell.

Look at Obama's known associates. They all seem to have a hatred for America, and look to me as if they would welcome its demise. Who is to say that Obama doesn't feel the same way? Perhaps he is not naive at all. Perhaps he is intent on seeing America go down.

33 HelloDare  6/07/08 2:32:06 pm reply quote 0

Just the words you'd expect from a man with so many Marxist friends.

34 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:32:18 pm reply quote 14

Disarmament is an engraved invitation to invasion and conquest. To believe otherwise is to willfully ignore history.

But then self-styled progressives are funny that way.

35 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:32:24 pm reply quote 5

re: #28 missouri boy

well, there are about 4M NRA members, according to what i read in my latest american rifleman.

yes, i'm a member.

36 Opinionated  6/07/08 2:32:41 pm reply quote 5

Obama is honest.

When he calls for change, he really means change. And with his likely Democrat controlled Congress, change will become reality.

When he is done with the change, makeover actually, you may not recognize the bruised and battered America.

37 Dalibama  6/07/08 2:33:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #24 MandyManners

That is the BHO that I know.

BHO said that's not the Obama I knew.

38 Athos  6/07/08 2:33:38 pm reply quote 2

re: #32 mama winger

There is a reason why they have been friends / associates for so many years.

39 missouri boy  6/07/08 2:34:06 pm reply quote 1

re: #35 dave in NC

well, there are about 4M NRA members, according to what i read in my latest american rifleman.

yes, i'm a member.


I keep waiting for the NRA to annouce that it is the "2nd party" That would be a political party I could stand up for.

40 mama winger  6/07/08 2:35:22 pm reply quote 8

re: #38 Athos

There is a reason why they have been friends / associates for so many years.

It seems as if he has shown us and told us exactly who he is. It's just that people choose to look past it. Why? That's what intrigues me.

41 HelloDare  6/07/08 2:35:38 pm reply quote 3

Commander-In-Chief, Barack Obama. Why do people bother to go to horror films with that's a possibility.

42 vbspurs  6/07/08 2:36:09 pm reply quote 3

re: #36 Opinionated

When he is done with the change, makeover actually, you may not recognize the bruised and battered America.

I agree that he's unusually "honest" for a politician (read, he doesn't think what he is saying is wrong, and is genuinely puzzled to find others do).

But I disagree that America will stand around being a punching bag. Let's also not commit the moonbat mistake of thinking a President has unilateral power to reformat the USA. We have checks and balances in this country for a purpose.

God forbid this man is elected. But I believe in America's innate strengths more than he does.

43 MarkX  6/07/08 2:36:24 pm reply quote 1

God save America if he is elected.

45 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:37:39 pm reply quote 1

re: #39 missouri boy


not in our mission; the NRA was founded to encourage/support civilian marksmanship, through such initiatives as the cmp. lately though, we've had to spend a great deal of time protecting the classic interpretation of the second amendment.

46 luco-brazzi  6/07/08 2:38:02 pm reply quote 3

This is exactly what Clinton did to the CIA, and the military.

Is anybody really surprised.

47 Ma Sands  6/07/08 2:38:03 pm reply quote 0

re: #43 MarkX

Well, as God is allowing it, it's best we be sure we're on God's side..... :)

48 MandyManners  6/07/08 2:38:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #37 Dalibama

Your avatar...it burns...it burns...!

49 mama winger  6/07/08 2:38:36 pm reply quote 29

Obama married a woman who is bitter against America and its people. Obama was mentored by a man who blames America for the most vile of crimes against humanity. Obama is friends with a priest who despises white people. Obama worked for a man who wants to blow up America even more than he did in the past. Obama has denied his American family in favor of his Kenyan/Muslim family.

Obama has told us exactly who he is.

50 HelloDare  6/07/08 2:38:38 pm reply quote 7

The republican party should start running that video as a commercial.

51 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:40:05 pm reply quote 1

there's a lifetime left in the campaign; much will be forthcoming between now and november.

53 Hannibal Smith  6/07/08 2:40:14 pm reply quote 1

I assume it's been done by now since the video has been around so long, but someone make sure they save that vid in case Youtube "disappears" it.

This is really damning stuff. Or at least it should be, in a sane polity.

54 godfrey  6/07/08 2:40:23 pm reply quote 1

Obama sounds like a puppet.

55 paradox42  6/07/08 2:40:26 pm reply quote 10

While it would be great if we lived in a world where weapons weren't needed, this is not the case. There are very bad people out there and the only way to keep them at bay is with the sword.

A big problem with liberals, a problem I confess I once had, is an inability to recognize something or someone as evil and label it as such. Its easier to believe that everybody is basically decent and that all disagreements can be settled by talking. It is easier to to stand on the sidelines and not take a stand.

There are those out there who want power and control not only over the actions but also the thoughts of other people. Talking with them is a waste of time and may get you killed. Obama is a fool if he thinks the world is going to play nice just because he does.

56 mama winger  6/07/08 2:40:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #54 godfrey

Obama sounds like a puppet.

I agree.

57 ZK273  6/07/08 2:40:39 pm reply quote 6

Right, because once the US disarms, the other countries in the world will surely... *snrk* follow suit... *snrk*

BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Sorry. I'm just not capable of saying that while keeping a straight face.

58 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:40:48 pm reply quote 3

The other side doesn't want to know the difference between right and wrong because they are wrong.

59 MandyManners  6/07/08 2:40:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #41 HelloDare

Commander-In-Chief, Barack Obama. Why do people bother to go to horror films with that's a possibility.

It's the reality-show craze?

60 Athos  6/07/08 2:40:51 pm reply quote 3

re: #40 mama winger

It seems as if he has shown us and told us exactly who he is. It's just that people choose to look past it. Why? That's what intrigues me.

That's the $64 question. Some also share the belief that the US is fundamentally wrong and evil. Some seek power at any cost - they see the wealth and ego trip that power will bring.

However, I think that for many its a case of decades of a substandard education and a focus on 'me' as opposed to a focus what this country stands for and the beacon it provides to the really oppressed in the world.

There is a reason why so many risk their lives and turn their lives upside down to come to this country. Political talking heads aside, the people of the world are voting as to the values that they are interested in - and those are the values of capitalism, freedom, liberty, and individuality. To those who seek power, control, and dominance America stands against all that they seek. For 50 years they have attempted to eliminate this bastion which prevents their fascist goals. Unfortunately, they are getting closer....but the silent majority of this country is not down and out yet.

61 Ma Sands  6/07/08 2:41:01 pm reply quote 0

re: #54 godfrey

Truer words have hardly ever been spoken.....

62 MandyManners  6/07/08 2:41:41 pm reply quote 1

re: #50 HelloDare

The republican party should start running that video as a commercial.

YES! YES! YES! YES!

63 Ol Yaler  6/07/08 2:41:53 pm reply quote 5

It will be easy for Obama to cut billions from the defense budget. He can do it the same way Jimmy did it. Every year at Cost of Living adjustment time, he can make it lower that inflation, so the troops get less and less real pay each year. They will leave the service in droves over time. Then purchase fewer spare parts and when planes, tanks and vehicles break down, they cannot be repaired to run. Also, no purchase of new weapons by saying the next generation will be better so we will wait for them. After four years of this, our country will be in peril. Put more money in education for the teacher unions. That will make us dead smart.

64 vapig  6/07/08 2:42:10 pm reply quote 4

re: #32 mama winger

I'm tired of sitting in the stairwell.

Look at Obama's known associates. They all seem to have a hatred for America, and look to me as if they would welcome its demise. Who is to say that Obama doesn't feel the same way? Perhaps he is not naive at all. Perhaps he is intent on seeing America go down.

Thank you! I'm glad someone finally said that "out loud"! This is what I believe as well.

65 Opinionated  6/07/08 2:42:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 vbspurs

I agree that he's unusually "honest" for a politician (read, he doesn't think what he is saying is wrong, and is genuinely puzzled to find others do).

But I disagree that America will stand around being a punching bag. Let's also not commit the moonbat mistake of thinking a President has unilateral power to reformat the USA. We have checks and balances in this country for a purpose.

God forbid this man is elected. But I believe in America's innate strengths more than he does.

One of the checks will be like minded. The other may have no say on the disastrous policies.

He will destroy the economy and the markets by raising taxes. Particularly the capital gains tax.

Anything but anything can happen to a nation if the economy is bad enough.

Just one possibility.

66 godfrey  6/07/08 2:42:18 pm reply quote 3

He stumbles on "quadrennial." Those aren't his words. He's a vector.

67 snowcrash  6/07/08 2:42:31 pm reply quote 3

Not surprising at all. Obama is no friend of science either as evidenced by his statements on delaying or cutting NASA programs. We'll see brain drain and a loss of the workforce that knows how to build spacecraft and train a future workforce of aerospace engineers. Goodbye to research and development, good paying tech jobs, and hello to more funds for preschool and educational bureaucracies.

68 MarkX  6/07/08 2:42:39 pm reply quote 0

re: #47 Ma Sands

Well, as God is allowing it, it's best we be sure we're on God's side..... :)

I hope so.

69 funky chicken  6/07/08 2:42:39 pm reply quote 5

Jeez, I've been posting links to this video here and at hotair and ace of spades for months, and some people noticed it, but most just yawned and said "But McCain sucks" or whatever in response. Maybe now folks will start to pay attention and knock off the frivolity.

70 missouri boy  6/07/08 2:42:46 pm reply quote 2

re: #45 dave in NC

dave....I too am a Life Member.......so, I can dream can't I.

71 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:43:00 pm reply quote 2

re: #60 Athos

In short some folks hate us because we're the good guys.

72 Daisy  6/07/08 2:43:22 pm reply quote 1

What makes Moonbats admire wimps so very much?

73 vbspurs  6/07/08 2:43:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #54 godfrey

Obama sounds like a puppet.

He LOOKS like Max Headroom in that piece.

Please Lord, let that have been a holographic montage from a clever Youtuber...

74 VegasRick  6/07/08 2:43:28 pm reply quote 2

re: #54 godfrey

Obama sounds like a puppet.

And looks like a muppet.

75 mama winger  6/07/08 2:43:28 pm reply quote 0

okay - back downstairs - really black here - Paul is in the thick of it I'm afraid.

76 infidel Alan  6/07/08 2:43:41 pm reply quote 5

Memo to Barack: the Norwegian Socialists disarmed Norway in the 1930s. Why don't you ask the Norwegians about disarmament? Some of them still remember how well it worked.

77 godfrey  6/07/08 2:44:07 pm reply quote 1

re: #71 The Other Les

Ever since the USSR went down, every orc on earth has been gunning for us.

78 MandyManners  6/07/08 2:44:12 pm reply quote 16

re: #60 Athos

Some seek power at any cost - they see the wealth and ego trip that power will bring.

In Soros' own words, “If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble,” Soros once wrote. When asked to elaborate on that passage by The Independent, Soros said, “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of God, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.”

79 VegasRick  6/07/08 2:45:12 pm reply quote 1

re: #75 mama winger

okay - back downstairs - really black here - Paul is in the thick of it I'm afraid.

Stay safe!

80 pegcity  6/07/08 2:45:19 pm reply quote 1

re: #6 The Other Les

i've said that for the last 8 months, Iran gets nukes, war is inevitable

81 MandyManners  6/07/08 2:45:21 pm reply quote 1

re: #72 Daisy

What makes Moonbats admire wimps so very much?

Peas in a pod.

82 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:45:27 pm reply quote 0

re: #70 missouri boy


lifer also.

83 missouri boy  6/07/08 2:45:29 pm reply quote 0

Reagan said "America was never attacked, because we were too strong"

84 Kilroy  6/07/08 2:46:09 pm reply quote 1

It looks like its time to back to "Duck and Cover" as a plan for national defense.

85 nyc redneck  6/07/08 2:46:16 pm reply quote 2

re: #78 MandyManners

In Soros' own words, “If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble,” Soros once wrote. When asked to elaborate on that passage by The Independent, Soros said, “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of God, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.”

obama is the puppet messiah. soros will pull his strings.

86 wolfie  6/07/08 2:46:34 pm reply quote 0

re: #76 infidel Alan

Memo to Barack: the Norwegian Socialists disarmed Norway in the 1930s. Why don't you ask the Norwegians about disarmament? Some of them still remember how well it worked.

Ooooooh. Nice historical tidbit there! Good one, Alan!

87 Dianna  6/07/08 2:46:54 pm reply quote 1

re: #15 VegasRick

I'm thinking of a .45 carbine, assuming everything else goes smoothly.

88 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:47:29 pm reply quote 3

With power (in our case, superpower status) comes responsibility.

Because we are the dominant power on the planet it is our responsibility to protect or restore the peace, and promote Life and Liberty as the central values of Human Societies.

Obama is just a Stone Age God-King wannabe who's going to plunder the productive to pay off his parasite supporters. The Big B.O. is simply not fit for public office.

89 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:47:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #87 Dianna


with extended magazines.

90 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:47:50 pm reply quote 0

re: #77 godfrey

Ever since the USSR went down, every orc on earth has been gunning for us.

I have to agree.

91 vapig  6/07/08 2:48:15 pm reply quote 0

re: #47 Ma Sands

Well, as God is allowing it, it's best we be sure we're on God's side..... :)

I agree. I even make such statements elsewhere - I get told that it's freaks like me that are the problem. Then they get nasty!

92 VegasRick  6/07/08 2:48:21 pm reply quote 0

re: #87 Dianna

I'm thinking of a .45 carbine, assuming everything else goes smoothly.

I've got a .30 cal M-1 "enforcer", dual combat clips and lots of ammo.

93 LEGION  6/07/08 2:48:38 pm reply quote 0

He is evil and must be stopped. Spread this information- some swing vote folks may listen and tip the balance. It's our only hope!

94 vbspurs  6/07/08 2:48:50 pm reply quote 1

re: #72 Daisy

What makes Moonbats admire wimps so very much?

Because they reflect the Left's three most important cannons:

1- Peace
2- Tolerance
3- Equality

For them, any aggressiveness is war, any intolerance is intolerable, and equality (which is more Marxist than the American emphasis on "freedom") is forced understanding.

95 Daisy  6/07/08 2:48:58 pm reply quote 4

re: #32 mama winger

I'm tired of sitting in the stairwell.

Look at Obama's known associates. They all seem to have a hatred for America, and look to me as if they would welcome its demise. Who is to say that Obama doesn't feel the same way? Perhaps he is not naive at all. Perhaps he is intent on seeing America go down.

His mother was a Marxist named after a boy in order to quell his father's disappointment over having a wife who did not produce a mini-me for the jerk. His father was a loser too. Both parent's dumped him (as did his step-father). He's married to a wanna-be line-backer who had to settle for being a grievance-merchant. His friends are lousy. Obama is one very pissed off guy. Excuse my language - but it's true - the man's a lethal weapon which the rest of the Moonbats will only be too happy to deploy on our country.

96 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:49:11 pm reply quote 1

re: #80 pegcity

i've said that for the last 8 months, Iran gets nukes, war is inevitable

Ayn Rand was saying something like that before I was born.

97 shibumi  6/07/08 2:49:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #40 mama winger

It seems as if he has shown us and told us exactly who he is. It's just that people choose to look past it. Why? That's what intrigues me.

I'll bite.

No one wants to see that their Idol has clay feet.

No woman wants to see that the man she desperately loves is an abusive drunk with a cocaine problem.

No man wants to see that the woman he loves is an amoral gold digger who is just using him.

I think it's kind of human nature. Once we get fixated on someone as "the one" we overlook any and all faults. Much to the chagrin of our friends and family, who aren't looking at the object of our affection through our rose colored glasses.

98 vapig  6/07/08 2:50:01 pm reply quote 0

re: #75 mama winger

okay - back downstairs - really black here - Paul is in the thick of it I'm afraid.

I pray that you ( and Paul) stay safe.

99 funky chicken  6/07/08 2:50:32 pm reply quote 5

But just today on the radio, Glenn Beck's Saturday show, he said he won't vote for McCain. And said that Obama wouldn't be worse. How nice for him and for Ann Coulter that they don't have loved ones serving in Iraq or Afghanistan right now.

I think perhaps if any lizards are fans of these radio talkers, some nice letters might get them to think before they open their big mouths.

100 MarkX  6/07/08 2:51:29 pm reply quote 1

re: #83 missouri boy

Reagan said "America was never attacked, because we were too strong"

Obamessiah said "Thank you sir, may I have another."

101 dave in NC  6/07/08 2:51:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #99 funky chicken

identity politics, conservative style.

102 Daisy  6/07/08 2:52:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #94 vbspurs

Because they reflect the Left's three most important cannons:

1- Peace
2- Tolerance
3- Equality

For them, any aggressiveness is war, any intolerance is intolerable, and equality (which is more Marxist than the American emphasis on "freedom") is forced understanding.

Well said and completely correct too.

103 shibumi  6/07/08 2:52:54 pm reply quote 1

re: #78 MandyManners

In Soros' own words, “If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble,” Soros once wrote. When asked to elaborate on that passage by The Independent, Soros said, “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of God, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.”

Oh-kay....

So on one hand we have Urkel the Narcissist, being funded and controlled by Soros the Narcissist. If they are different types of narcissists (they usually come in the physical or intellectual varieties,) they will get on fabulously, while they make life absolutely intolerable for everyone around them. If they are the same flavor, they will implode.

Unfortunately, my guess is that Soros thinks he's brilliant, and Urkel thinks he's handsome, so we might be totally screwed here people.

104 greenmiler  6/07/08 2:52:55 pm reply quote 0

re: #98 vapig

I pray that you ( and Paul) stay safe.

re: #98 vapig

whats up with mama?

105 funky chicken  6/07/08 2:53:13 pm reply quote 3

re: #49 mama winger

Obama married a woman who is bitter against America and its people. Obama was mentored by a man who blames America for the most vile of crimes against humanity. Obama is friends with a priest who despises white people. Obama worked for a man who wants to blow up America even more than he did in the past. Obama has denied his American family in favor of his Kenyan/Muslim family.

Obama has told us exactly who he is.

Mama Winger, you are on fire today. Keep it up!

106 MarkX  6/07/08 2:53:35 pm reply quote 2

re: #95 Daisy

Yeah, what's not mentioned much is how screwed up his family really was.
He must have a lot of psychological baggage.

107 Ma Sands  6/07/08 2:53:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #91 vapig

I think because you have touched a nerve, that's why..... :)

108 natemannq  6/07/08 2:53:39 pm reply quote 0

Was his promise not to "weaponize space" meant to convey he will not eat beans?

109 Daisy  6/07/08 2:54:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #104 greenmiler

re: #98 vapig

whats up with mama?

I'm wondering the same. Good thoughts to you, mama.

110 vapig  6/07/08 2:55:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #104 greenmiler

re:

111 The Other Les  6/07/08 2:56:44 pm reply quote 7

Military supremacy means never having to say that you submit.

112 greenmiler  6/07/08 2:57:08 pm reply quote 0

where is she?

113 Daisy  6/07/08 2:57:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #106 MarkX

Yeah, what's not mentioned much is how screwed up his family really was.
He must have a lot of psychological baggage.

Because to mention how horrifically screwed up his family is would be - ta dadada .. racist.

114 Ma Sands  6/07/08 2:57:35 pm reply quote 0

re: #112 greenmiler

Stairwell of a condo --no basement.....

115 greenmiler  6/07/08 2:58:05 pm reply quote 0

sh#t

116 greenmiler  6/07/08 2:58:27 pm reply quote 0

what state?

117 Ma Sands  6/07/08 2:58:53 pm reply quote 0

re: #116 greenmiler

Wisconsin......northeast border.....

118 Dianna  6/07/08 2:59:51 pm reply quote 0

re: #30 godfrey

I agree, but people cheer him when he says this nonsense and talk about how wonderful and different it is.

119 gymnast  6/07/08 3:01:27 pm reply quote 2

Why vote for Obama? Because it's too late to vote for Lenin!

120 Killian Bundy  6/07/08 3:02:36 pm reply quote 0

Speaking of weather, I just ordered one of these today.

/anyone else ever have one?

121 yochanan  6/07/08 3:02:49 pm reply quote 0

[Link: blogs.suntimes.com...]

john mccain on military service you know he will support the military

122 Geepers  6/07/08 3:03:23 pm reply quote 3

The contrast couldn't be greater:

John McCain, Prisoner of War: A First-Person Account

By John S. McCain III, Lieut. Commander, U.S. Navy

This story originally