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Britain Bans 'Military Wing' of Hizballah, Nasrallah Laughs

Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:53:05 am PDT

Britain has banned the “military wing” of the terrorist group Hizballah.

Yes, only now.

The “social” and “political” wings of the terrorist group will continue to operate freely in the UK.

And the leader of Hizballah is openly mocking the British.

Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah has said that Britain’s decision to black-list the Lebanese militant group’s military wing as a terrorist outfit was an “honour” but questioned the timing of the move. “Each time there is such a decision by the colonialists, we consider it a medal, an honour which attests that we are on the right path for our people,” Nasrallah told reporters via videolink.

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rawmuse Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:53:56am

Tolerance!

CIA Reject Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:55:13am

re: #1 rawmuse

Tolerance!

...of the intolerable!

rlevitin Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:56:23am

I don't even know what to say to lunacy like this.

Thanos Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:57:11am

We just got around to blacklisting 12 Pakistan NGO's for terror support, we've known about them for years, so don't be too hard on the Brits.

lawhawk Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:57:22am

Once again, the folly of trying to separate the political from the military wings of a terrorist organization whose goal is nothing short that the destruction of Israel, and whose terrorists have splintered Lebanon and delivered it once again into the clutches of the Islamofascists.

The British think that Hizbullah is like the IRA - that there are political and military wings and that they have different goals and can be treated differently.

They couldn't be more hopelessly wrong. Hizbullah is religiously motivated to jihad. They engage in taqiya - lying to further their goals, and will do whatever it takes to impose their vision of Islam. Lebanon suffers as a result, and they would hope to do the same to Israel.

nyc redneck Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:57:35am

the brits have been mocked before.
i hope they awaken this time as they did once to hitler.

Opinionated Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:57:44am

But are they banning the delicious chicken wings from the Hizballah supporting restaurant.

Cognito Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:58:06am

Left side of mouth: "Britain is a land of oppressive colonialists..."

Right side of mouth: "Please let us stay... please..."

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:58:09am

If they won't ban the other two branches, they are simply playing denial games.

And after being called "colonialists", they'll probably back down on this incremental move in the right direction.

rawmuse Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:58:30am

From all appearances, it is a decided lack of normal self preservation instincts, which is very in vogue at the moment in the West.

Ben Hur Thu, Jul 3, 2008 8:59:50am

But they build roads.

Oh, and Hassan, the Brits don't like when you remind them of their colonial history.

It kind of makes any criticism coming out of Britain seem hypocritical.

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:00:35am

If this were WWII, England would be talking about banning the Nazi Military wing while they kept up negotiations with Hitler.

Tigger2005 Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:00:48am

re: #6 nyc redneck

the brits have been mocked before.
i hope they awaken this time as they did once to hitler.

They didn't awaken to Hitler until they had, for all intents and purposes, lost the war. They could not have won without the U.S. Eventually Germany would have figured out how to launch a cross-Channel invasion. They LOST, and we saved their asses.

Let's just hope we never get into such dire straits, because who would save US? Canada?

Lawrence Schmerel Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:01:41am

In other words, Hizballah will continue to operate freely in the UK because all of its wings are flapping together regardless of what you call them.

MandyManners Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:01:54am

A new Yallah Ya, Nisrallah video!

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:02:16am

re: #5 lawhawk

Very good, except that the "political" and "armed" sections of the IRA were exactly like Hezbollah. They had exactly the same goals. The thing was, the British could use Sinn Fein as a conduit, and did.

CIA Reject Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:03:11am

re: #12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If this were WWII, England would be talking about banning the Nazi Military wing while they kept up negotiations with Hitler.

My father used to say that it was a good thing we fought WWII back in the 1940's because if we had to fight it today we'd LOSE!

I used to think he was joking...

rawmuse Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:03:43am

I was watching a program on Churchill yesterday. It was uncanny, the moment after Churchill secured victory for them in WWII, they called him a "war monger" and threw him out of office, to be replaced by a socialist scumbag who would have surrendered in a minute.

Sound familiar?

alegrias Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:04:06am

(repeating from previous thread) but it relates to Hezbollah's financier- and British Broadcasting:

Last night (Wed. 7/02) the BBC tv World News from its DC bureau, gloated (to its international/terrorist audience) our US Admiral Mullins said IT WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT for the US (or Israel) to attack Iran!

BBC was basically telling Iran, "Don't Worry, Be Happy", the US doesn't want a third front in the GWOT right now.

BBC said it was clear US Admiral Mullins was telling US/Israel to cool it, knock off the "Iran's next!" talk.

Anyone else see or hear this report? I was not in the room but couldn't believe my ears.

Ben Hur Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:04:41am

Does this mean that Dearborn is off limits?

Sharmuta Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:04:53am

Why would nazarallah be afraid to mock the Brits when they let terrorist thugs out of their own jails when they have them?

MandyManners Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:05:31am

re: #15 MandyManners

A new Yallah Ya, Nisrallah video!

I cannot find the old one.

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:06:55am

re: #21 Sharmuta

Good observation.

The_Vig Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:07:28am

Colonialists? Wow that was a long time ago. You people really know how to hold a grudge. Oh yea. This is the middle east, I forgot.

Iron Fist Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:08:04am

If someone would kill Nasrallah, then we could say we were on the right path to dealing with Hizb'allah.

alegrias Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:08:20am

re: #21 Sharmuta

Why would nazarallah be afraid to mock the Brits when they let terrorist thugs out of their own jails when they have them?

* * *
Indeed, why fear mighty Britain when Nazrallah could be hiding in plain sight in Britain or Scotland or Wales or Ireland, at any of four permitted wives' welfare-paid homes! Probably affects an East Enders or Cockney accent like other Western Wahhabis!

pat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:08:22am

Intersting answer. Revolutionary babble instead of religious babble.

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:08:30am

Know what would send the right message to Hezballah?

Killing them.

Ben Hur Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:08:39am

re: #24 The_Vig

Colonialists? Wow that was a long time ago. You people really know how to hold a grudge. Oh yea. This is the middle east, I forgot.

They have whole departments in universities devoted to "post-colonial studies."

The grudge will go away about the same time they start teaching about non-European colonialism.

Sharmuta Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:08:53am

re: #23 Dianna

Thanks, and good to see you with your dinger turned on.

Ben Hur Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:09:12am

re: #25 Iron Fist

If someone would kill Nasrallah, then we could say we were on the right path to dealing with Hizb'allah.

My friend, there is a reason Nasrallah is the whitest arab on earth.

The man hasn't seen the light of day in years.

calvin coolidge Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:09:22am

What does this "British ban" involve? Taking away their library cards?

Ben Hur Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:09:40am

re: #30 Sharmuta

Thanks, and good to see you with your dinger turned on.

I used to hear that alot, back in the day.

Sharmuta Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:10:22am

re: #24 The_Vig

Colonialists? Wow that was a long time ago. You people really know how to hold a grudge. Oh yea. This is the middle east, I forgot.

The irony being the imperial colonialism of islam is responsible for the mess in Lebanon in the first place.

Hard Right Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:10:30am

re: #30 Sharmuta

Thanks, and good to see you with your dinger turned on.

Ummmm....I uh.....never mind...

opnion Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:11:02am

re: #24 The_Vig

Colonialists? Wow that was a long time ago. You people really know how to hold a grudge. Oh yea. This is the middle east, I forgot.

They talk & write about the Crusades like thet were last week

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:11:14am

re: #30 Sharmuta

I decided to give it a try.

Shug Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:11:26am

We are all fat and hairy terrorists

jcm Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:12:02am

Now that's getting really tough with 'em.
/

akak Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:12:04am

just list Lebanon as a whole, a terrorist state and move forward accordingly.

Thanos Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:12:06am

re: #27 pat

Intersting answer. Revolutionary babble instead of religious babble.

Islamism is fading in bouquet, many terror groups are reverting to communism, this since the win of the Socialists in Pakistan and other factors. The Latest AQ manifesto tilts that way as well a bit. Think they are actively trying to curry new state sponsors on the Sunni side of it, but that doesn't work as well for the Shia/Iranian side, since they will always have Tehran.

Hard Right Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:12:17am

re: #38 Shug

We are all fat and hairy terrorists

/

Leave Rosie out of this!

CIA Reject Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:12:47am

re: #24 The_Vig

Colonialists? Wow that was a long time ago. You people really know how to hold a grudge. Oh yea. This is the middle east, I forgot.

Well, as former British colonies go the United States is doing fairly well these days- none of the problems that seem to plague the former colonies in the ME. I wonder why that is? Gee, do you think that maybe it's because WE DON"T WASTE OUR TIME STICKING OUR BUTTS IN THE AIR AND "PRAYING" TO SATAN FIVE TIMES A DAY? !

/Naw, it must be something else...

alegrias Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:12:48am

re: #31 Ben Hur

* * *
I personally knew blue-eyed blond half lebanese, half American boys who attended the Islamic Saudi Academy in Northern Virginia.

Can't judge a totalitarian expansionist by its cover!

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:13:45am

re: #38 Shug

We are all fat and hairy terrorists

/

Fat? Well...I could lose some flab. But hairy? I'm well-groomed!

Sharmuta Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:14:13am

re: #37 Dianna

I'm glad!

Once you get used to it, you'll find yourself wishing every site had 'em.

Vergeltung Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:14:21am

re: #18 rawmuse

I was watching a program on Churchill yesterday. It was uncanny, the moment after Churchill secured victory for them in WWII, they called him a "war monger" and threw him out of office, to be replaced by a socialist scumbag who would have surrendered in a minute.
Sound familiar?

eerily.

alegrias Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:14:29am

re: #29 Ben Hur

They have whole departments in universities devoted to "post-colonial studies."

The grudge will go away about the same time they start teaching about non-European colonialism.

* * *
But but but Iranian colonialism is the natural order of evolution--it's in the coe-ran!

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:16:07am

re: #46 Sharmuta

I'm only worried about my ego. So I carefully don't look to see if I've been dinged up very often or not.

Hard Right Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:16:41am

re: #45 Dianna

Fat? Well...I could lose some flab. But hairy? I'm well-groomed!

A squirrel that shaves?

buzzsawmonkey[deleted] Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:18:03am

yma o hyd Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:18:37am

Ahem - 'Britain' is = NuLab Government, since 1997, and the British MSM are and have been leftie-liberals for well over ten years now.

Yes, they are despicable, and are thoroughly despised by the majority of the British people.
So please do not equate that lot with 'the British' - they've stopped speaking for us a long time ago.

Also - it should not be surprising that, as has been mentioned above, the British Government seems to equate Hisssbolla with the IRA/Sin Fein - after all, it was Tony Blair (with the help of some friends) who worked out that Good Friday Peace Agreement.

(Personally, I believe any other politician would have done that equally well: those people were desperate for a face-saving way out.)

alegrias Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:18:42am

re: #40 akak

just list Lebanon as a whole, a terrorist state and move forward accordingly.

* * *
Did you know,
Lebanon was a place of refuge for American military families when India & Pakistan fought a war in the mid 1960s--before Jimmy Carter empowered iranian mullahs to nuclearhood & terrorist expansionist colonization of Lebanon.

Yes, American families were put up in fancy hotels along the beach by the friendly Lebanese host goverment, before Carter turned the place into an Iranian satellite of mullah-ism.

MandyManners Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:18:48am

re: #50 Hard Right

A squirrel that shaves?

EpiSquirel.

Alouette Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:18:49am

re: #22 MandyManners

I cannot find the old one.

Here it is.

This is a good one too.

Sharmuta Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:19:36am

re: #49 Dianna

I believe Mandy did the same thing. You get dings, Dianna.

alegrias Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:19:56am

re: #43 CIA Reject

Well, as former British colonies go the United States is doing fairly well these days- none of the problems that seem to plague the former colonies in the ME. I wonder why that is? Gee, do you think that maybe it's because WE DON"T WASTE OUR TIME STICKING OUR BUTTS IN THE AIR AND "PRAYING" TO SATAN FIVE TIMES A DAY? !

/Naw, it must be something else...

* * *
Recently re-affirmed....
2nd amendment & right to self-defense FROM oppression, baby!

loppyd Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:20:13am

re: #53 alegrias

Jimmah really left his mark in the Middle East.

pegcity Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:20:25am

So Hezbollah up until now was allowed to raise money in Britain to kill jews, wow how progressive of them.

Hard Right Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:20:51am

re: #54 MandyManners

EpiSquirel.

What would a nude squirrel look like?

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:22:20am

re: #50 Hard Right

My avatar is something I aspire to: dapper, cheerful and friendly-seeming, but liable to be carrying a tommy-gun in a violin case.

Note the shine of my avatar's pelt - about as well-groomed as a flirty-tailed critter can get!

alegrias Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:22:56am

re: #58 loppyd

Jimmah really left his mark in the Middle East.

* * *
Some legacy!
Carter certainly brought the 7th century to the US of A!

pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:23:16am

re: #50 Hard Right

A squirrel that shaves?

Only armpits and legs.
*duck*

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:23:48am

re: #56 Sharmuta

As long as I don't look, I'm pretty sure it will be fine!

CIA Reject Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:23:50am

re: #57 alegrias

* * *
Recently re-affirmed....
2nd amendment & right to self-defense FROM oppression, baby!

Amen to that! Not only the 2nd amendment but also the whole Constitution. I doubt that such a document could even be conceived of by minds that were imprisoned by islam.

pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:24:20am

re: #61 Dianna

My avatar is something I aspire to: dapper, cheerful and friendly-seeming, but liable to be carrying a tommy-gun in a violin case.

Just like I once said: Salvatore Squirrel

MandyManners Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:24:26am

re: #55 Alouette

Here it is.

This is a good one too.

Oh, thank you very much! I'm laughing myself silly over the second one.

Dianna Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:24:53am

re: #63 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Well-groomed doesn't involve shaving one's pelt!

transient Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:26:18am

re: #15 MandyManners

A new Yallah Ya, Nisrallah video!

I still like the original video best.
Always good to hear the song again, it rocks!

Ward Cleaver Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:27:20am

I'd like nothing more than to see Nasrallah get Yassinerated.

Sharmuta Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:27:26am

re: #59 pegcity

So Hezbollah up until now was allowed to raise money in Britain to kill jews, wow how progressive of them.

I was just reading about an interesting chapter from American Revolutionary history, so I'll share it since it involves the Brits and the Jews and it's Independence Day Eve:

When the British captured St Eustatius from the Dutch, guess what one of the first things they did was? Expelled the Jews from the island with only one day's notice! These various hatreds go back a long way.

akak Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:27:42am

re: #53 alegrias

* * *
Did you know,
Lebanon was a place of refuge for American military families when India & Pakistan fought a war in the mid 1960s--before Jimmy Carter empowered iranian mullahs to nuclearhood & terrorist expansionist colonization of Lebanon.

Yes, American families were put up in fancy hotels along the beach by the friendly Lebanese host goverment, before Carter turned the place into an Iranian satellite of mullah-ism.

Cuba was wonderful too. Venezuela probably was wonderful - I've never been there. Belgium & Holland, UK, Mexico.....they are on my list of no thanks travel offers.

pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:28:23am

re: #68 Dianna

Well-groomed doesn't involve shaving one's pelt!

*GULP*
uh ... I posted that before you all but admitted to having a tommy gun in the violin case
*sweat*

MandyManners Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:28:28am

re: #60 Hard Right

What would a nude squirrel look like?

Sorta' like this?

Dustyvet Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:28:30am

re: #6 nyc redneck

the brits have been mocked before.
i hope they awaken this time as they did once to hitler.

And frigging soon, before the UK becomes an Islamic Republic...

Ben Hur Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:29:16am

re: #51 buzzsawmonkey

And leave Britney alone...

Are you admitting to seeing that picture?

pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:33:49am

re: #74 MandyManners

Sorta' like this?

A nude squirrel wearing a trench coat! What a pervie!

Dustyvet Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:36:46am

re: #77 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A nude squirrel wearing a trench coat! What a pervie!

He's not nude the little sods wearing blue jockey shorts...

Hard Right Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:38:47am

re: #61 Dianna

My avatar is something I aspire to: dapper, cheerful and friendly-seeming, but liable to be carrying a tommy-gun in a violin case.

Note the shine of my avatar's pelt - about as well-groomed as a flirty-tailed critter can get!

Tommy gun.....drrrrooooooollllllll

re: #63 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Only armpits and legs.
*duck*

I do that too...when I get bored. I really need a hobby. ;)

Hard Right Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:39:33am

re: #74 MandyManners

Sorta' like this?

Now that made me laugh. +1

Dustyvet Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:39:57am

re: #78 Dustyvet

He's not nude the little sods wearing blue jockey shorts...

Squirrels are tough mofos

[Link: www.zancy.com...]

Hard Right Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:40:03am

Geez, another new thread? Trying to keep up....

pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:41:24am

re: #78 Dustyvet

He's not nude the little sods wearing blue jockey shorts...

LOL!
I didn't slid my cursor over the image!

Dustyvet Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:42:25am

re: #81 Dustyvet

Squirrels are tough mofos

[Link: www.zancy.com...]

[Link: img448.imageshack.us...]

pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:43:25am

re: #79 Hard Right

Between your avatar and what you do when you get bored ... I'm stayin' th' hell AWAY from you!

(LOL!)

pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:44:24am

re: #84 Dustyvet

[Link: img448.imageshack.us...]

It's DIANNA!

nyc redneck Thu, Jul 3, 2008 9:45:40am

re: #13 Tigger2005

They didn't awaken to Hitler until they had, for all intents and purposes, lost the war. They could not have won without the U.S. Eventually Germany would have figured out how to launch a cross-Channel invasion. They LOST, and we saved their asses.

Let's just hope we never get into such dire straits, because who would save US? Canada?

i just can't count the brits out yet. there is too much chamberlain behavior going on there now but they did awaken to the threat of the nazis. thanks to churchill who knew what was going on all along.
so many countries in europe surrendered before hitler even moved on them. iirc, denmark lasted 2 hrs. and mighty france 3 days, and that's because it was raining.
britain is engaging in the sickening " language of sweet reasonableness" now. but that attitude comes and goes. it is a good sign that the brits continue to vote out their lib pols ( ie red ken).

i know an old irish guy who was a fighter pilot in the royal air force. they were up against goerings massive air armada. tho the raf was able to stop the germans from obnoxious day light bombing raids, 42,000 british civilians were killed in the battle of britain. (dec. 29, 1940) they kept fighting before we even got into the war and when there was a lot of opposition to the u.s. even going to the aid of europe. lots of communist groups here and abroad were protesting in the streets w/ signs like "the yanks are not coming." and churchill was denounced as a warmonger.
anyway, we need the brits to wake up now and quickly.

yma o hyd Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:03:41am

re: #87 nyc redneck

The British people have woken up quite some time ago - its the British NuLabour politicians who are deeply asleep ...

People in the know here think that there will be a General election either this autumn or early next spring (our system is different from yours, the terms of office are not fixed).
This will mean a landslide victory for the Tory Party, no doubts about it. And this will mean true change, not like that 'rpomised' by BO.

However - if that BO gets into office, your country will be put into a very deep sleep indeed, and it will look worse than what you now see in Britain. You'll be stuck with that for four years - no chance of getting him out of office earlier.

Thats how things are - you've got lots of work to do before November so that BO won't get elected.

British NuLabour have done their work - and they will be out. And boy, don't they know it!

see bs Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:07:41am

Can't we ban them all off the face of the earth?

TalkinKamel Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:08:26am

re: #88 yma o hyd

Are you really so sure that Labor's going to be out---or that the Tory's are going to be able to make all that much difference? It would be great if both things happen. . . but Britain (and the US) have decades of Marxist-think messes to clean up. It's going to be a long and dirty job. I'm not sure that one election (either there, or over here), or one political party (Republican or Tory) is going to somehow be able to magically fix everything. There's always hope, but I think Brits, and Yanks, are kidding themselves, if they pin all their hopes on one particular party, or one politician.

Spiny Norman Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:09:33am

And the leader of Hizballah is openly mocking the British.

The bearded freak is still in hiding, isn't he?

Hah!

Spiny Norman Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:13:12am

re: #89 see bs

Can't we ban them all off the face of the earth?

The permanent ban of the dirt nap?

ploome hineni[deleted] Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:15:09am

Wishbone Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:15:27am

They didn't awaken to Hitler until they had, for all intents and purposes, lost the war

We were still in it when you turned up sunshine...... And quite a ways beyond that.

They could not have won without the U.S.

Maybe not, in the long run, but we stood and were still standing by the time the US decided it wanted to play global war too.

They could not have won without the U.S. Eventually Germany would have figured out how to launch a cross-Channel invasion.

Eventually.....maybe..... but the Bosch would have had the same fistful of defiance shoved down his throat as he did in the Battle of Britain.

They LOST

We took a hiding and still stayed on our feet. Added to that, I don't speak a word of German so what does that tell you?

we saved their asses.

Did you see that big mofo queue on the left as you came in?,.... It's the long line of individuals that want a cookie for sacrifices that other people have made. It's a long line, but rest assured in the knowledge that you've joined a select grouping of people that can kiss my arse for their presumption.

ploome hineni[deleted] Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:21:01am

yma o hyd Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:23:54am

re: #90 TalkinKamel

Are you really so sure that Labor's going to be out---or that the Tory's are going to be able to make all that much difference? It would be great if both things happen. . . but Britain (and the US) have decades of Marxist-think messes to clean up. It's going to be a long and dirty job. I'm not sure that one election (either there, or over here), or one political party (Republican or Tory) is going to somehow be able to magically fix everything. There's always hope, but I think Brits, and Yanks, are kidding themselves, if they pin all their hopes on one particular party, or one politician.

You're right, there is a huge and deep mess to be cleared up, but as I said - the ordinary people have been waking up to this and have been getting not just indignant but spitting angry for some years.
Obviously there is no magical wand a Tory politician can wave, or even the Tory Party.
What they can do, however, is getting rid of all this top-down politically correct crap and let the cleaning winds of common sense back in.
Boris won in London, at the moment his hands are tied due to the NuLabour governemnt - but he's only been in Office for two months, he's getting there.
The last two by-elections were won by the Tory candidates with a stunning majority of over 50% of the votes, one of them in a seat held by Labour for twenty years - and two more by-elections are coming up this month.

Its the common sense which people want and need, the common sense which says its ridiculous to be offended by a puppy on a postcard; the common sense which says if you don't like it here and are not willing to adapt to our customs, don't expect us to bend over backwards to make you comfortable.
Here's a nice article by David Cameron, our next Prime Minister:
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Yes - he's careful not to talk about practicalities - when they did a year ago, Gordon Brown stole their practical proposals straightaway and incorported them in his own plans and policies.
That is a mistake the Tories are not going to make again ... so, soft words, but good ideas, without the specifics - they'll come when Gord can't do anything about them!

Wishbone Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:26:18am

re: #90 TalkinKamel

TK...... Yma is absolutely spot on with her assessment of the political situation in Britain right now. I have reservations about Cameron and his Tories myself, but one thing is looking abundantly clear: Labour is going to be taken to the cleaners at the next general election.

Their popularity ratings are low enough as to be unprecedented in the last 40 years of the party. The country keeps screaming at them to get their act together, but they act pretty much the same way the EU is treating Ireland right now: Keep telling the people to go away and not come back until they hear what they want to hear.

You're right in that there's no magical cure all for the problems coming from just one changing of the guard, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

Dunno who said this but, often, opposition governments do not win elections.....Presiding governments lose them. Labour is looking to be a case in point.

Wishbone Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:35:20am

re: #96 yma o hyd

Hehe...... Oi.... Yma....... It's been a bit of a wry giggle the last few months watching Gordon and his pet trots nick just about every Tory proposal or policy that wasn't nailed down.

What's funny about it is that every bugger is watching them do it and Brown and his lot are oblivious to the fact that they're just making themselves look more and more a crass, unimaginative, bunch of idiots as the weeks roll by.

It worries me that Cameron hasn't exactly made his vision clear to the electorate, but going the shenanigans of the last couple of months there's a part of me that can't blame him.

TalkinKamel Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:36:09am

re: #95 ploome hineni

ROFLMAO! Hey, I wanna go too!

(Thanks for that bit of black humor this morning.)

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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:38:12am

re: #95 ploome hineni

Camp is soooooooooooooooo much fun

I wanna go..........I wanna go

isn't UNRW WONDERFUL?

Yasser Arafat (and his bankers) certainly thought so!

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TalkinKamel Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:44:26am

re: #97 Wishbone

Only time will tell. Hopefully, the British people can pull it off.

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TalkinKamel Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:45:03am

re: #100 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(Singing) Hello muddah/hello faddah/here I am at/Camp Madrassa!

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yma o hyd Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:47:47am

re: #98 Wishbone

Hehe...... Oi.... Yma....... It's been a bit of a wry giggle the last few months watching Gordon and his pet trots nick just about every Tory proposal or policy that wasn't nailed down.

What's funny about it is that every bugger is watching them do it and Brown and his lot are oblivious to the fact that they're just making themselves look more and more a crass, unimaginative, bunch of idiots as the weeks roll by.

It worries me that Cameron hasn't exactly made his vision clear to the electorate, but going the shenanigans of the last couple of months there's a part of me that can't blame him.

Yes, I think NuLab and Gord are loving to make out David and his crowd are hopeless young toffs - but I think they are rather clever, learning from their mistakes. After all, there are some rather sharp minds in that party, and I don't mean just Boris Johnson.

It'll be nice to see how the summer goes. Something people in the USA don't know much about is the fact that both parties rely on private donors. The Tories have their house in order - but NulAb ahs huge debts. Their former millionaire friends are turning their abcks - their only help now are the Trade Unions, and if they give money, they'll want their pound of flesh.
So - strikes will be on the agenda. It'll be a summer of discontent, a faltering economy, it looks just like in 1979, before Maggie ...

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yma o hyd Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:50:25am

re: #101 TalkinKamel

Only time will tell. Hopefully, the British people can pull it off.

Those who could - in those by-elections - have done so already, as have those who could in the local elections in May, which amongst other Tory gains saw Boris take over in London.

Still - there's a lot of pain to come, and a lot of stupid decisions by Gord and his crew. Blame them, that Government, not us, the British people.

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Wishbone Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:50:27am

re: #103 yma o hyd

So - strikes will be on the agenda. It'll be a summer of discontent, a faltering economy, it looks just like in 1979, before Maggie ...

You read my mind there, Yma. Well, in retrospect, that is: I was thinking just that when I read the news last week that all 650,000 public sector workers were gearing up for a summer of industrial action over pay.

Marvellous.

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ploome hineni[deleted] Thu, Jul 3, 2008 10:51:41am

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godfrey Thu, Jul 3, 2008 12:09:02pm

re: #106 ploome hineni

Does Hamas give out merit badges?

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EE Thu, Jul 3, 2008 12:16:26pm

This means that the other branches of Hizballah do the collecting of funds, which can go on in Britain without restriction, and they are then free to turn over these funds to the "military" wing.

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MacBoy Thu, Jul 3, 2008 2:44:37pm

This means that the other branches of Hizballah do the collecting of funds, which can go on in Britain without restriction

Like Hizballah fundraising doesn't go on in the US?

You can mock the vagaries of the British Government if that's what floats your boats but don't use it as an excuse to mock the British people, as some here often seem only to happy to do...

Perhaps it's just old grudges surfacing between friends, perhaps a manifestation of a kind of blithe denial about the rapid Dhimmification of your own country?

And as for the idiotic and clichéd 'we saved your butts in WW2' nonsense? It's true we couldn't have won it without you, but saved our butts? You were way too late into the game to be able to claim that - and boy did you bleed us dry for it afterwards.

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TalkinKamel Thu, Jul 3, 2008 3:20:31pm

re: #106 ploome hineni

LOL!

(Sings Again)And the head coach/while we camp/reads us something dumb from a book called "Mein Kampf!"

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baconeatingkaffir Thu, Jul 3, 2008 5:22:33pm

I can only shake my head and worry for my colleagues on the other side of the Atlantic. I've mentioned before that I am seeing more and more British expats showing up her in Turkey. The whole socialist "Everyone's a victim in someway or another" is destroying a fine country. I had a good laugh a few days ago. A coworker of mine from the UK was complaining about having to stopover in London on his way home for the summer break. When I asked why he said that transportation from Stansford is crap and that he doesn't speak Dari, Pashtu, or Arabic. hehehe.

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Is it me? Thu, Jul 3, 2008 5:51:54pm

That's not mockery.
That's pathetic.
Nas is a pompous twit.

I'm with the Brit posters. I've been saying this sort of thing for a while against the US posters who keep writing us off (some are more prone to it than others). If you read the papers or listen to the BBC (gawd!) or even worse, the politicians in the Uk then you won't get what us Brits really think or feel. Like the EU POS politicians over the Lisbon Treaty NuLabour just ignore us. We've been yelling about all the various problems here for years. We have been demonized for it.
They thought if they ignored us enough we would give up. They were wrong. It was only a question of how long it would take us to build up a head of steam. Boris won London, they got hammered in the local elections and Crewe was a slam dunk. This is only the beginning.
All we have to do now is to keep pressing for a national election ASAP. That isn't going to be easy as Brown is going to hang on for as long as possible. He and Blair have undermined our democratic structure in a cynical attempt to ensure that Labour stay in power. They've used various ways to do this but the main thing was to try to negate or destroy the English. They have failed, all they have done is to piss us off. Never a good thing to do.
We still want our referendum on the Treaty of Lisbon but considering the fact that the author of the original EU constitution, one Valery Giscard d'Estaing (Fwench) has admitted that the Treaty is designed so that no-one can understand it and that the EU is going to ignore any referendums because they are not getting the results they want (witness their reaction to the Irish No vote) what we need is a referendum on a)have only a very loose and minor connection with the EU - or b) get out of the EU altogether.
I think most people (?60 - 80%) would probably go for ditching them. Especially as we now know that they are still pressing ahead with the ludicrous EU army (Brown seems to agree with them *spit*) and the Fwench want to be able to command our aircraft carriers because theirs are falling apart (when hell freezes over!). I don't see our Armed Forces going for that at all, neither will we.

As for America winning 2 world wars - give it up. You were late for both and we were fighting with our backs up against the wall while you were sitting on your hands. If the Japanese hadn't bombed Pearl you might not have turned up at all. While we were having the crap bombed out of our cities and fighting the Battle of Britain we were alone. Continental Europe had gone and the Fwench in the North turned turtle the moment Paris was threatened. You may have fought bravely once in the fight but do not insult the British by making us sound like a bunch of fairies. We are an island race and our boundries are made by nature and not man. It's instilled in us a stubborness and resilliance that should not be underestimated. We are a warrior race and we may have mellowed to civil debate but don't kid yourselves that the warrior does not run in our veins. It does. It is only a question of where our tipping point is. I think we are getting close.

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D.C. Thu, Jul 3, 2008 6:34:02pm

re: #71 Sharmuta

I was just reading about an interesting chapter from American Revolutionary history, so I'll share it since it involves the Brits and the Jews and it's Independence Day Eve:

When the British captured St Eustatius from the Dutch, guess what one of the first things they did was? Expelled the Jews from the island with only one day's notice! These various hatreds go back a long way.

Thanks for mentioning this story, as I had not come across it before. But having read a bit about it now, I think there's a bit more to the story. From the articles linked below, it appears that while the British admiral was apparently anti-Semitic, many Jews on the island supported the American Revolution and some were smuggling contraband, etc. to the colonists and that this activity was quite important to the war effort.

At least one of the articles suggests that had the admiral, Admiral Rodney, not spent so much time on the island trying to acquire as much loot as he could (to pay off large gambling debts), he might've been able to stop French Admiral François Joseph Paul compte de Grasse from blocking British support for General Cornwallis, who was forced to surrender at Yorktown, the turning point of the Revolutionary War.

How the Jews Saved the American Revolution

Retribution: Admiral Rodney and the Jews of St. Eustatius

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rorschach Thu, Jul 3, 2008 7:29:14pm

nasrallah.....pure, walking, talking evil