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Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:43:18 am PDT
Barack Obama is doing a press conference in Paris with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, and here’s a thread to discuss it ...
UPDATE at 7/25/08 9:59:29 am:
The presser’s done; how disappointing not to hear Obama attempt a “Merci beaucoup!” for the French media.
460 comments
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:45:48am |
Can we swap Obama for Sarkozy?
(And some French models to be named later)
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CIA Reject Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:45:53am |
I guess the French will be relinquishing the mantle of "surrender champion" to it's new holder...
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psyop Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:46:00am |
I am so embarrassed....
We Americans going over to Europe and expecting them to speak our language to communicate with us.
/sarc
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:46:18am |
Just asked if anything he has heard has changed his mind on any of his policies?
Asked the French president is he is endorsing obambi
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ORD neighbor Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:46:28am |
But his ideas on de facto surrender put US and France to shame.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:46:49am |
NOthing he heard or saw that caused him to change his basic STRATEGIC policies
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:46:56am |
Obama, France & Sarkozy ... uh ... well ... Sarkozy has lots of good points, maybe I've gotta save my invective for the first two.
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zombie Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:46:57am |
Speaking of pissants...
News at zomblog:
Last year’s urine: A tree-sitters’ Golden Oldie
Containing the classic line:
The weaponized urine — revealed at last!
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:47:00am |
He said he was embarrassed that Americans aren't bilingual, yet this affirmative action empty suit can barely speak one language: English.
Uh, um, uhh, hope, uh, change, uhhhhhhhh....
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kyjed Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:47:20am |
Why should he learn to speak French - he's going to be President of the World and they are all his fellow citizens.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:47:23am |
For someone who claims to be knowledgable about such things, Obama is a lightweight.
Based on his appearance at a German restaurant to chide Obama about his Berlin speech, will McCain appear at a French restaurant and note that he knows a word or two of French, learned while being held in Vietnam?
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:47:35am |
Iraq has greatly improved
Iraqi govt is ready to take more responsibility
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:47:53am |
Technically speaking, I'd consider not speaking French to be one of the very few points in Obama's favor.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:47:56am |
I'm beginning to think Obama's trip is going to be a flop.
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Crimsonfisted Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:48:25am |
re: #16 nyc redneck
he speaks only "uh uh" and teleprompter.
I love that, he speaks TELEPROMPTER,
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:48:43am |
The media, of course, is spinning furiously about how and why Obama isn't spending more time in Paris - it might get folks back home upset that he's got lots of support overseas.
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Ornery Ballsack Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:49:00am |
Christianne Amanpour asked Sarkozy if standing next to Obama he felt bad for referring to French rioters of immigrant origins "scum"? She decided not to ask her other question "Senator Obama, did you enjoy your trip to the Eiffel Tower?"
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ElChimpy Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:49:00am |
Won't his glow and aura speak for him? The Obamania translates into the universal language. Like "I'm a Pepper, You're a Pepper", the Macarena, or herpes.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:49:25am |
Says the Israeli's are interested in what a shift in foreign policy would entail.
That could be a game changer.
WTF?
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:49:35am |
re: #21 Ojoe
The French like American comedians.
Barack Hussein Obama - the Jerry Lewis of politics.
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:49:55am |
re: #11 zombie
Speaking of pissants...
News at zomblog:
Last year’s urine: A tree-sitters’ Golden Oldie
Containing the classic line:
LOL. I love how tree huggers despoil and blight the very trees they are trying to save. The city should condemn that filthy area as a health hazard. It must have been beautiful before all those homeless libs moved in.
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:50:17am |
How does one say empty suit in Fwench?
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:50:33am |
On a related topic - Bush has gone cowboy again. Stymied by the UN, Bush pushes additional US sanctions against Zimbabwe.
So much for all that "we" talk that Obama proffered yesterday. The world couldn't care less about Zimbabwe. Or Darfur. Or anywhere else for that matter.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:50:39am |
re: #31 JamesTKirk
Barack Hussein Obama - the Jerry Lewis of politics.
Please don't insult Jerry Lewis.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:50:48am |
re: #26 Typicalwhitey
I think it's just too much, too overblown. It's just so weird that he's campaigning to Americans through the Europeans.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:51:34am |
re: #35 lawhawk
On a related topic - Bush has gone cowboy again. Stymied by the UN, Bush pushes additional US sanctions against Zimbabwe.
So much for all that "we" talk that Obama proffered yesterday. The world couldn't care less about Zimbabwe. Or Darfur. Or anywhere else for that matter.
No, they care about the palestinian terrorists; those need to be taken care of so they can kill more Israelis.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:51:36am |
re: #34 JammieWearingFool
How does one say empty suit in Fwench?
Not "Carla"
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Da_Beerfreak Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:51:37am |
So, is this todays ID* thread?
*Ignorant Democrat
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parisparamus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:51:38am |
This is a conundrum: Sarkozy is now hated by the French media, i.e, the French left, but adores Obama. Does Obama lose points for meeting with Sarcozy, or does Sarcozy gain points for meeting with Obama? Oh, I know. Via LefyLogic, Sarcozy loses points, and Obama gains points!
Also, it's Omelette au fromage...
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zombie Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:51:47am |
When it was rumored that Obama might visit the Vatican on his European tour, the Pope's palindromist was heard to remark,
"Amabo Obama."
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:52:15am |
re: #38 lawhawk
Jacques Kerri?
Bingo!
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:52:22am |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
He should have stopped after Iraq and Afghanistan
This would have been a huge win then.
It is going on too long and he is looking very unintelligent in this presser.
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obscured by clouds Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:52:24am |
If only Obama were running for President of the EU, he'd have my support.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:52:42am |
re: #39 Ojoe
I think the Europeans are insulted too. He's not speaking to them or saying anything that interests them. The Europeans are just being used.
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VegasRick Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:52:49am |
re: #13 Noam Sayin'
Omelette du fromage.
" Ah vood lak to go to zee hotel"
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CIA Reject Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:53:10am |
You know, McCain could have a lot of fun with BO's World Tour by making his own visits to Berlin and Paris:
Berlin, New York
Berlin, Connecticut
Berlin, Pennsylvania
Berlin, Wisconsin
Berlin, North Dakota
Paris, Texas
Paris, Maine
Paris, Kentucky
Paris, Ohio
Paris, Illinois
etc.
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:53:31am |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
I think the Europeans are insulted too. He's not speaking to them or saying anything that interests them. The Europeans are just being used.
The French like being used.
They prefer it to be accompanied by a German accent, though.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:53:38am |
French president:
If obambi is elected then france will be delighted.
If someone else is then france will continue to be a friend of America.
That is a DIRECT QUOTE>
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calvin coolidge Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:53:59am |
To the French: Jerry Lewis wasn't available today so here is someone just as humorous.
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:54:08am |
re: #55 Typicalwhitey
French president:
If obambi is elected then france will be delighted.
If someone else is then france will continue to be a friend of America.That is a DIRECT QUOTE>
"France will continue to be a friend of France."
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pat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:54:18am |
re: #51 CIA Reject
And he could have tossed in Moscow for a tiebreaker.
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:54:21am |
OT: I know how this guy feels sometimes:
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:54:33am |
re: #56 calvin coolidge
To the French: Jerry Lewis wasn't available today so here is someone just as humorous.
"La la la this is my wife NICE LAAAAAADYYYYYY!"
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:54:36am |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
I think it's just too much, too overblown. It's just so weird that he's campaigning to Americans through the Europeans.
While telegraphing to the Europeans that they're racists ("I know I don't look like other Americans who have spoken in this city").
Of course, he offers the hope of redemption; love me, and you're no longer a racist.
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MandyManners Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:54:40am |
re: #13 Noam Sayin'
Omelette du fromage.
Trish! You spoke French!
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:55:00am |
Anyone got any booze?
I am feeling lightheaded from listening to this tool.....but I shall soldier on!
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:55:01am |
re: #5 psyop
I am so embarrassed....
We Americans going over to Europe and expecting them to speak our language to communicate with us.
/sarc
Normally, we just end up going over there and winning their wars for them.
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Maui Girl Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:55:36am |
Here's my take on this whole Obama trip. His advisors have told him to act as if he is already President. I don't ever recall a Senator having press conferences with the heads of other nations. Perhaps their counterparts in governments of other nations but not the President or Prime Minister or Head Dictator. I'm sure someone can come up with examples to refute my claims (I hope) because this is all getting rather unnerving that this junion senator from Illinois is having such importance placed upon him by the media and other governmental bodies.
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Charles Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:55:39am |
What? He couldn't even come out with a "merci beaucoup" for the French press?
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:55:42am |
re: #62 Occasional Reader
While telegraphing to the Europeans that they're racists ("I know I don't look like other Americans who have spoken in this city")...
I loved hearing from Brits that the USA was too racist to elect a black leader. I'm drawing a blank on all the black Prime Ministers that they've elected; could someone post a list?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:55:43am |
Why the hell is he holding a joint press conference with the French President?
/what gaul!
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Dahveed Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:55:57am |
Apparently the media hyped the turnout in Berlin.
There's a shock!
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:56:42am |
Merde.
How was my accent?
It was Obama's to lose and he lost it. Look for mass defections in Denver, with HRC emerging as the real Dem candidate.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:56:49am |
This will backfire.
HE IS ACTING LIKE HE IS ALREADY THE PRESIDENT.
Americans like confidence.
They dislike arrogance.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:57:06am |
Great , McCain is meeting with the Ladi Lama later today.
/Gunga da gunga
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nyc redneck Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:57:07am |
re: #24 Crimsonfisted
I love that, he speaks TELEPROMPTER,
he does too.
he would really be in trouble w/ just "uh uh".
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jamgarr Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:57:16am |
re: #34 JammieWearingFool
How does one say empty suit in Fwench?
Pas de gravite
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:57:42am |
re: #58 Kosh's Shadow
Someone play "La Marseillaise"
Great scene.
Why does France deserve such a magnificent national anthem?
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Iron Fist Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:57:58am |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
I'm beginning to think Obama's trip is going to be a flop.
As Martha Stewart says, that's a good thing!
:-)
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Sharmuta Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:58:18am |
Well- there is the point that the French are known for their ability to surrender- maybe obama wanted some pointers.
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CIA Reject Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:58:35am |
re: #54 Ojoe
Moscow Idaho
LOL! I think that's BO's next stop, no?
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:59:32am |
re: #69 JamesTKirk
I'm drawing a blank on all the black Prime Ministers that they've elected
I don't know about the PM's, but Parliament seems pretty black.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:59:34am |
Obama finally gets a little bounce out of this round the clock media frenzy....
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
The presumptive Democratic nominee attracts 46% of the vote while John McCain earns 41%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 49% and McCain 44%. Just three days ago, the candidates were tied at 46% (with leaners).
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:59:37am |
re: #71 Dahveed
Apparently the media hyped the turnout in Berlin.
There's a shock!
It was just like that event in Oregon where they had a free concert in advance that boosted the crowd numbers.
A complete sham.
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jamgarr Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:59:57am |
re: #76 Killgore Trout
Great , McCain is meeting with the Ladi Lama later today.
/Gunga da gunga
So - he's got that going for him.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 9:59:58am |
re: #68 Charles
What? He couldn't even come out with a "merci beaucoup" for the French press?
It was a mess sewer.
/sorry ... compulsive
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:00:25am |
re: #2 MandyManners
I know enough to get my face slapped.
Mon petite chou...
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:01:03am |
re: #76 Killgore Trout
Great , McCain is meeting with the Ladi Lama later today.
/Gunga da gunga
You mean Dolly the Llama.
Yeah, I have trouble figuring that one out, too. This whole campaign season is surreal. Hey guys, remember us? You know... the American voters?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:01:05am |
OBAMA,
"After going to all 57 states, I've now been to Germany, France, Iraq, and Afgahnastan. To finish up my world tour and add to my foreign experience, I will be having waffles at International House Of Pancakes"
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brent Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:01:31am |
Hey Barry, I took eleven years of French, and I still won't vote for your dumb ass... How about those pommes, messy?
I was listening to the news, and I love the reaction of the reporters to the event - they can't believe that Europe only likes him. It's a disappointment that they're not experiencing complete apoplexy.
Oh well, maybe he can go over there in 2009 and hang for a few years, maybe it's an aquired syndrome taste.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:01:45am |
Just back in fron luch outsiein NYC... As I came into my building a family was walking by clad in a t shirt that had the image of the Obama and it said:
Hope... Making the feelings of the oppressed race the Law if the Land...
Shirt had the official Obama 'O' on it... Interesting...
Also took the elevator up with fashion designer Betsey Johnson... She said my outfit looked good today... I guess that's some high praise...
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:02:56am |
re: #70 Killian Bundy
Why the hell is he holding a joint press conference with the French President?
/what gaul!
Obama's in a lot of truffle
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CommonCents Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:02:59am |
re: #3 Kosh's Shadow
Can we swap Obama for Sarkozy?
(And some French models to be named later)
With or without the armpit hair? On the models that is...
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:03:00am |
Y'all don't think that if he did speak French we would be giving Barack heck for doing that?
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nyc redneck Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:03:05am |
re: #74 Typicalwhitey
This will backfire.
HE IS ACTING LIKE HE IS ALREADY THE PRESIDENT.Americans like confidence.
They dislike arrogance.
i'm so in agreement w/ you. this is what gives me hope, that my fellow americans will see thru this arrogant unqualified fool.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:03:21am |
re: #92 sattv4u2
OBAMA,
"After going to all 57 states, I've now been to Germany, France, Iraq, and Afgahnastan. To finish up my world tour and add to my foreign experience, I will be having waffles at International House Of Pancakes"
We're going to Germany, and we're going to France, to Spain, and to Italy, and then to Moscow. And then we're going to take back the White House....BYAAAAAA!
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Maui Girl Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:04:05am |
It continues to amaze me how some people in this country are so enamoured with the Europeans. If it weren't for us Yankees, them Europeans wouldn't be where they are today. (Great Britain aside. And all those underground folks during the WWII.)
Obama is truly an elitist.
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yesandno Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:04:24am |
Merde!
I am soooooooooooooooooooooo embarrassed.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:04:41am |
re: #100 WrathofG-d
Y'all don't think that if he did speak French we would be giving Barack heck for doing that?
Well yeah, but thats just because its French. I'd make fun of anyone for that.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:04:47am |
re: #100 WrathofG-d
Y'all don't think that if he did speak French we would be giving Barack heck for doing that?
it's only being mentioned because HE gave "us" heck for knowing only 'Merci Beaucoup"
that whole glass house thing !
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:14am |
re: #100 WrathofG-d
Not after chastizing Americans for not speaking the language overseas.
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CynicalConservative Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:14am |
re: #42 Da_Beerfreak
re: #42 Da_Beerfreak
So, is this todays ID* thread?
*Ignorant Democrat
A bit redundant there...
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:22am |
re: #108 taxfreekiller
"uh," mesay,,"ah" , uh, "carpoop, ""
Now thats funny.
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brent Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:34am |
# 307
People who live in glass houses subsidized by real estate frauds should not throw stones.
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kansas Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:44am |
Man these guys are just drooling to get this guy in charge of our country.
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Maui Girl Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:49am |
Must get on the treadmill. Au Revoir mes amies!
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:55am |
re: #103 lawhawk
That's no Beaujolais.
I think this whole "Obama wows France" thing is just a canard.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:05:59am |
Who died and made him president?
R e-entry after a longish vacation is always a disorienting time. You turn the key and have to push the door hard to get past the drifts of unopened mail. Most of the mail is bills, of course, and that brings on its own sense of delirium.But for me what’s made the past few days especially bizarre is to find that, after two weeks of avoiding the news cycle, I return to discover that Barack Obama has become my president, prophet and anointed philosopher king — all without an election!
While dumping out heaps of sandy vacation laundry, I learn from NPR that “Barack Obama has left Jordan and is on his way to Israel,” as if his movements are already of such national import that we all need to know what he said before he got on the plane, at what time he’ll be airborne, and what he’s expected to say when he lands.
NPR believes I wish to know these things. I don’t, really. What I’d like to know is why nobody makes a fuss when John McCain goes overseas. We are a politically divided country, after all; half of us, give or take, vote Republican, and you’d think that broadcasters might remember those of us in the Other America.
/I am not a world citizen
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:06:10am |
re: #104 Maui Girl
It continues to amaze me how some people in this country are so enamoured with the Europeans. If it weren't for us Yankees, them Europeans wouldn't be where they are today...
"Oh, you English are *so* superior, aren't you? Well, would you like to know what you'd be without us, the good ol' U.S. of A. to protect you? I'll tell you. The smallest fucking province in the Russian Empire, that's what! So don't call me stupid, lady. Just thank me. If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking *German!* Singing 'Deutschland, Deutschland über alles...' "
-Harvey Manfred-St.Johnson, CIA
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barry the baptist Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:06:18am |
Exerpts from political orator of the day- Barack Obama:
Uh, uh, um, uh, um, uh, see, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, well, n-n-no, uh, uh, see, uh, t-t-t-this is, uh, uh, precisely, um, uh, uh, uh, um- wait where was I?
Reminds me of the 'Duh-Duh Man' in New Jack City.
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CommonCents Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:06:37am |
re: #100 WrathofG-d
Y'all don't think that if he did speak French we would be giving Barack heck for doing that?
I would. I will give him heck regardless of which language he speaks. It's not his vocabulary I have a, uh-uh-uh, problem with, it's his ideas and philosophy. That is if "Hope and Change" are a philosophy.
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Cygnus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:06:39am |
re: #60 Creeping Eruption
OT: I know how this guy feels sometimes:
Walendowski had been drinking all morning. Around 9:30 a.m., he attempted to start his 21-inch Lawn-Boy. Unsuccessfully.
MUI - Mowing Under the Influence. Also a future candidate for a Darwin Award.
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brainwizard73 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:07:14am |
You know, there is a phrase that Obama might want to think about teaching the American people...
coup d'état
Hmm, was this the kind of foreign phrase he was trying to teach us?
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keyword Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:07:39am |
re: #118 JamesTKirk
And doesn't 'working' sound a lot more pleasant than 'arbeiten'?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:07:44am |
re: #99 lawhawk
They had Lafayette.
They also had Charlemagne, who (IIRC) saved Europe from conquest during the First Caliphate. And the French fleet which scuttled itself at Toulon rather than let itself be taken by the Nazis. Yes, they have great things going for them ... but ...
/it's a mystery to me
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:07:53am |
re: #109 lawhawk
It would have been pretty interesting if he had learned a few words for each country he visted, but I could only imagine the junk he'd be given if he spoke Arabic while in the Hashimite Kingdom Occupying Jordan, or Germany while standing at that statute.
Its a lose/lose for him.
Toda, Gratzie, Gracias, Merci Beucoup, shen she,
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Silhouette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:08:03am |
re: #95 tfc3rid
Hope... Making the feelings of the oppressed race the Law if the Land.
At least they are open with their racism.
They are voting for him based on race. And they're looking for revenge for being "oppressed".
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Cygnus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:08:39am |
re: #68 Charles
What? He couldn't even come out with a "merci beaucoup" for the French press?
Tip for BO - if anybody says "C'est merde", it's not a compliment.
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:09:18am |
re: #121 Cygnus
Walendowski had been drinking all morning. Around 9:30 a.m., he attempted to start his 21-inch Lawn-Boy. Unsuccessfully.
MUI - Mowing Under the Influence. Also a future candidate for a Darwin Award.
He also lives with his mom . . .in her basement. I'd probably drink all morning too.
Moral of the Story: If you are going to shoot your lawn implements, do it with a "legal" gun.
This is Wisconsin, you can do anything drunk.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:10:17am |
re: #128 Cygnus
Tip for BO - if anybody says "C'est merde", it's not a compliment.
C'est boocoos o' merde.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:10:47am |
re: #128 Cygnus
Tip for BO - if anybody says "C'est merde", it's not a compliment.
I also think "f***ing American asshat" is universal over in Europeia
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:10:53am |
Rumor has it that Obama was disappointed when he arrived in Paris and it wasn't exactly what he expected.
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jcm Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:10:59am |
re: #71 Dahveed
Apparently the media hyped the turnout in Berlin.
There's a shock!
Million man march math!
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:11:02am |
re: #126 WrathofG-d
I'm sure he'd get grief, but the fact is that Obama put his own linguistic skills at issue when he proffered his own Ugly American spin claiming that Americans don't speak any foreign language other than merci.
It's a no win situation of his own doing.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:11:12am |
Mug shots of the day.....
Johns Love Barack
Chicago prostitution sting nets second man wearing Obama t-shirt
/Hot Air
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:11:13am |
re: #127 Silhouette
At least they are open with their racism.
They are voting for him based on race. And they're looking for revenge for being "oppressed".
Sadly they are...
I also concur with Maui Girl... I never recall a Junior Senator being give a podium alone with athe heads of state of foreign countries to discuss policy...
I think it isn't Constitutional...
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JAT Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:11:16am |
But everyone can understand the word of "god." (No caps because he's not...)
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doppelganglander Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:11:53am |
Jules: You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
Brett: No.
Jules: Tell 'em, Vincent.
Vincent: A Royale with cheese.
Jules: A Royale with cheese! You know why they call it that?
Brett: Because of the metric system?
Jules: Check out the big brain on Brett! You're a smart motherfucker. That's right. The metric system.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:11:54am |
re: #122 lawhawk
It will flambe quite easily.
And while he's lecturing us about carbon footprints and global warming, Obama's probably being chauffered around in a Mercedes S-Class sedan.
I mean, talk about excessive horsepower - just look at that S-car go!
[you might as well just admit it, I won this round]
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MJBrutus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:12:17am |
re: #138 tfc3rid
It violates the Logan Act. If we had a Republican left in Congress who possessed a spine, they would bring him up on charges.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:13:24am |
re: #141 Occasional Reader
Very good!
Kudos!
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Silhouette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:13:31am |
"I can do that. It's my lawn mower and my yard, so I can shoot it if I want," Walendowski told police.
Darnit, you should be able to shoot your own darn lawn mower. He should be right.
No sarcasm.
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Crimsonfisted Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:14:07am |
re: #142 MJBrutus
It violates the Logan Act. If we had a Republican left in Congress who possessed a spine, they would bring him up on charges.
So have Pelosi and Kerry violated that act. Makes me sick that they have not been charged.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:14:30am |
re: #140 doppelganglander
Big Kahuna Burger is ripping us off!
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Cygnus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:14:39am |
re: #132 Capitalist Tool
C'est boocoos o' merde.
Merde de vache - bulls**t (guessing)
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Golem Akbar Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:14:40am |
I heard Obama is offering to open up a French white flag franchise in the US. Now, that's enterprising. Merci.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:14:43am |
re: #138 tfc3rid
Sadly they are...
I also concur with Maui Girl... I never recall a Junior Senator being give a podium alone with athe heads of state of foreign countries to discuss policy...
I think it isn't Constitutional...
Certainly isn't doing my constitution any good...
| 154 |
WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:15:40am |
Is it only me that thinks the trip from Hitler's statue to the heart of Paris was a bit odd, and maybe not the best idea for the O'ssiah?
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:15:49am |
re: #150 Golem Akbar
I heard Obama is offering to open up a French white flag franchise in the US. Now, that's enterprising. Merci.
Selling lapel pins on website nest step.
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TheMatrix31 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:16:27am |
We all know it's not Merci Beaucoup....
According to Obama, it's merci bo-KOO!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:16:27am |
re: #154 WrathofG-d
Is it only me that thinks the trip from Hitler's statue to the heart of Paris was a bit odd, and maybe not the best idea for the O'ssiah?
A Freudian slip, perhaps?
| 159 |
Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:16:45am |
re: #145 Silhouette
Darnit, you should be able to shoot your own darn lawn mower. He should be right.
No sarcasm.
The biggest problem he had is that he used a sawed-off shotgun which I believe is a felony here.
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Silhouette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:16:57am |
re: #140 doppelganglander
Which always ticks me off. We have 2-liter bottles of soft drinks, even though we typically use gallons. We adapted.
They should have a Quarter Pounder. That is what it is called. The French should be a little more tolerant™ of multicultural™ things.
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jcm Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:17:19am |
re: #145 Silhouette
Darnit, you should be able to shoot your own darn lawn mower. He should be right.
No sarcasm.
Problem is rounds or shot easily extends past his property line.
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Golem Akbar Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:17:54am |
Obama: er, uh, messy buckets...no, merci buckets....no....gracias?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:18:22am |
re: #163 Golem Akbar
Obama: er, uh, messy buckets...no, merci buckets....no....gracias?
In Obama's case, it merdi buckets.
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:18:28am |
re: #101 nyc redneck
i'm so in agreement w/ you. this is what gives me hope, that my fellow americans will see thru this arrogant unqualified fool.
Arrogance is one of the foundations of liberalism.
They think they're so superior to the rest of us great unwashed.
In reality, they're the idiots.
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:18:32am |
re: #162 Miss Trixie
Obama: The New St. Pauli Girl!
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:19:01am |
re: #158 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Or a guy with no knowledge of History.
I also found it strange that Obama went from Israel to Germany, then made a huge speech to the Grandchildren of the Nazi youth about "walls", and things that keep us apart.
VOTE
VICTORY
VOTE
McCAIN
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:19:53am |
re: #146 keyword
Obama, vas te faire enculer!
Tu m'laisse rentrer oui ou merde?
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:19:56am |
re: #166 JammieWearingFool
Arrogance is one of the foundations of liberalism.
They think they're so superior to the rest of us great unwashed.
In reality, they're the idiots.
I agree but my worry is that this fraud will not be exposed until his handlers have won him the election...
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runrabbitrun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:20:22am |
Oh boy, now Obama gets the photo-op with Sarkozy the French rockstar...
I'd give anything, ANYTHING (well almost :) ) to be a fly on the wall of Bill and Hill's home media room to see them sitting there in front of the TV, watching their reactions as this newbie upstart snotnosed kid takes Europe and the ME - and all they can do is pass the popcorn Pepto-Bismol.
::squeeeak::
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Silhouette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:21:10am |
re: #169 WrathofG-d
As if the Berlin wall was a wall of separation, merely keeping people apart. It was a prison wall, keeping people in.
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Egfrow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:21:17am |
Thankfully, Marxist Revolutionizes like the Obama family don't have have much creativeness and vision outside of mediocre talking point drivel, narcissistic self indulgence, and defamation propaganda. Outside of these standard tactics there is no imagination.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:21:19am |
re: #162 Miss Trixie
Aha! Found it!
Hysterical! LOLOLOL!
LOL!
That's what that speech in Berlin was -- not "just words" -- "just foam".
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Golem Akbar Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:21:20am |
I was eating a bowl of cereal this morning, and as I looked at it, the Cheerios spelled out: OBAMA.
(too obscure a reference?)
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rlevitin Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:21:24am |
Transcripts available, anyone? I just got back from lunch a few minutes ago.
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godfrey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:21:52am |
Charles
The presser’s done; how disappointing not to hear Obama attempt a “Merci beaucoup!” for the French media.
That's okay. During his inaugural, he'll sing the Internationale.
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Pyrocles Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:22:20am |
"Making the feelings of the oppressed race the Law if the Land..."
Oh man... Marxist class warfare.
re: #95 tfc3rid
Just back in fron luch outsiein NYC... As I came into my building a family was walking by clad in a t shirt that had the image of the Obama and it said:
Hope... Making the feelings of the oppressed race the Law if the Land...
Shirt had the official Obama 'O' on it... Interesting...
Also took the elevator up with fashion designer Betsey Johnson... She said my outfit looked good today... I guess that's some high praise...
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Miss Trixie Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:22:31am |
re: #167 Creeping Eruption
Obama: The New St. Pauli Girl!
HA! :D
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:22:55am |
re: #125 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Was Charlemagne the same as Charles (the Hammer) Martel? At times in their history, the French have saved Western Civilization. Their alliance with us certainly doomed the British during the American Revolution.
When they're allies, they're good to have on board. When they play games, they can be unpleasant.
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:23:02am |
re: #174 Silhouette
Yes you are exactly correct. The reductionist revision of reality is really worrysome, but not surprising from a guy who is pandering to the branded, and small thinking, bumpersticker X+ MTV generations.
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nyc redneck Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:23:30am |
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doppelganglander Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:24:05am |
re: #177 Golem Akbar
It made me think of this:
Peter Griffin: Brian, there's a message in my Alpha Bits. It says "OOOOOO".
Brian Griffin: Peter, those are Cheerios.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:24:12am |
re: #177 Golem Akbar
I was eating a bowl of cereal this morning, and as I looked at it, the Cheerios spelled out: OBAMA.
(too obscure a reference?)
an ANAGRAM of that is Aa MOB!
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:24:12am |
I had Eau bama's likeness on a banana- brown spot, but the whole thing turned brown when I tried to freeze it for sale on eBay.
Oh well.
Now it bears a likeness to only part- nevermind.
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Opinionated Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:24:27am |
Louis XVI was likely less of an pompous arrogant jerk and he got the guillotine.
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MJBrutus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:24:39am |
Rush just played Bono's "now is our time" spiel. It was hilarious as it was word for word lifted in to BHO's Berlin shin dig and referred to as one of his most memorable lines! He should have stuck with his usual illegal immigrant rip off of "Yes we can," if you ask me.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:25:15am |
re: #169 WrathofG-d
Or a guy with no knowledge of History.
I also found it strange that Obama went from Israel to Germany, then made a huge speech to the Grandchildren of the Nazi youth about "walls", and things that keep us apart.
VOTE
VICTORY
VOTE
McCAIN
Hmmm, I wonder if it's not so much a LACK of knowledge of history, as (perhaps) an overweening pride which leads him to believe that he's above it.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:25:26am |
re: #182 quickjustice
Nope. Charlemagne and Charles Martel
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:25:27am |
re: #186 sattv4u2
an ANAGRAM of that is Aa MOB!
and A MOAB
| 194 |
tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:25:29am |
re: #180 Pyrocles
"Making the feelings of the oppressed race the Law if the Land..."
Oh man... Marxist class warfare.
You love it, don't ya!
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JohnnyReb Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:25:32am |
re: #177 Golem Akbar
I was eating a bowl of cereal this morning, and as I looked at it, the Cheerios spelled out: OBAMA.
(too obscure a reference?)
Alpha bits?
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Miss Trixie Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:26:06am |
re: #176 pre-Boomer Marine brat
LOL!
That's what that speech in Berlin was -- not "just words" -- "just foam".
Yes indeedy. I don't think the average American voter will be fooled with this crapola.
Obambi will not be the next POTUS.
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:26:18am |
re: #191 pre-Boomer Marine brat
you trying to say that the O"ssiah will CHANGE history and HOPE you don't notice?
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godfrey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:26:31am |
re: #191 pre-Boomer Marine brat
ding ding ding
Who needs knowledge when you have crowds of people waving your image in the air?
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:26:42am |
Yo, Barry, it's pronounce "MERCY BUCK-UP"!
Ah, c'est domage pour Monsieur Obama. Le pauvre homme.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:27:12am |
re: #191 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Hmmm, I wonder if it's not so much a LACK of knowledge of history, as (perhaps) an overweening pride which leads him to believe that he's above it.
I believe it's because he thinks that as he keeps movning on he is actually making history...
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:27:25am |
re: #158 pre-Boomer Marine brat
More like a Freudian half-slip with a camisole.
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Iron Fist Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:27:27am |
re: #159 Creeping Eruption,
Sawed-off shotgun (barrel under 18") is a Federal felony. Good for up to ten years in Club Fed, IIRC. It's a stupid law, but it is the law for now. Even the current Supreme Court is unlikely to overturn laws about sawed-offs. Dude is hosed.
| 204 |
BrianA Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:27:51am |
re: #137 Killgore Trout
Mug shots of the day.....
Johns Love Barack
/Hot Air
Add those mug shots to the scrap book:
| 205 |
Teacake! Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:28:22am |
Its so hard to keep track of BO's list of what he will demand of American's. I'm serious about wanting a list, because other than government controlled health care, he has said we will have to make sacrifices! I'm not interested in sacrificing anything for the global good. I don't have a fancy life, don't even own a car or an AC. I don't eat much either... if I did eat less as BO demands we Americans consider for global approval - well, I'm really not interested in the government dictating my food intake.
Anyhow, he demands a lot and so far hasn't offered anything other than national health care, hope and change.
I'd like to compile a list of his demands, as he sounds more like a dictator than a presidential candidate.
| 206 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:28:44am |
"I'll give you dishwater. You'll never know the difference."
/French waiter in National Lampoon's European Vacation.
| 207 |
itellu3times Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:28:48am |
re: #201 tfc3rid
I believe it's because he thinks that as he keeps movning on he is actually making history...
I think it's called running up the ladder faster than the rungs are breaking.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:28:50am |
re: #200 calcajun
Yo, Barry, it's pronounce "MERCY BUCK-UP"!
Ah, c'est domage pour Monsieur Obama. Le pauvre homme.
Pauvre homme, my bumme... has more money and connections than 99.9% most fellow citizens of the one world.
| 210 |
Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:29:25am |
re: #203 Iron Fist
True, but I don't think the feds want small fry like this. They'll leave it to the state which has the same or similar variant of the fed law. The other charge is only a misdemeanor.
| 211 |
rightwinger3 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:29:43am |
re: #140 doppelganglander
Jules: You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
Brett: No.
Jules: Tell 'em, Vincent.
Vincent: A Royale with cheese.
Jules: A Royale with cheese! You know why they call it that?
Brett: Because of the metric system?
Jules: Check out the big brain on Brett! You're a smart motherfucker. That's right. The metric system.
English, motherf'er...do you speak it?
| 212 |
MandyManners Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:29:44am |
I wonder if he made a secret side trip to Soros' home town.
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:29:52am |
It was Charles (The Hammer) Martel, the Frankish Duke, who drove back the Saracens at the Battle of Tours in 732, saving Western Civilization and Europe from military conquest by the Saracens for 1276 years.
Charlemagne (Charles I) came later.
| 214 |
Izzy Dunne Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:29:57am |
re: #186 sattv4u2
an ANAGRAM of that is Aa MOB!
How about A MOAB ?
| 215 |
tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:30:23am |
re: #212 MandyManners
I wonder if he made a secret side trip to Soros' home town.
Where was he staying overnight?
| 216 |
Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:30:40am |
re: #213 quickjustice
Tell me you had to look that up . . .
| 217 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:30:44am |
re: #211 rightwinger3
"'What' ain't no country I ever heard of! They speak English in 'What'?"
| 218 |
Egfrow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:30:58am |
Obama's cocky ass believes he has an aura of invincibility around him being a shield made of the MSM and sycophantic staff members. He has too much faith in the loyalty he's being granted now. It will all turn on him in a New York minute. Ask McCain, he understands the MSM ability to turn on you more than most.
| 219 |
itellu3times Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:30:58am |
re: #203 Iron Fist
,
Sawed-off shotgun (barrel under 18") is a Federal felony. Good for up to ten years in Club Fed, IIRC. It's a stupid law, but it is the law for now. Even the current Supreme Court is unlikely to overturn laws about sawed-offs. Dude is hosed.
So, OK, I can't buy a pistol that shoots shotgun cartridges? Pity. Somebody better go arrest Hellboy.
| 220 |
JohnnyReb Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:31:13am |
re: #203 Iron Fist
,
Sawed-off shotgun (barrel under 18") is a Federal felony. Good for up to ten years in Club Fed, IIRC. It's a stupid law, but it is the law for now. Even the current Supreme Court is unlikely to overturn laws about sawed-offs. Dude is hosed.
Yes, but black powder sawed off shotguns are exempt.
| 221 |
lawhawk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:31:18am |
re: #217 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What does Marcellus Wallace look like?
| 222 |
pingjockey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:32:01am |
re: #219 itellu3times
Somebody, IIRC makes a revolver that shoots .410 rounds.
| 223 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:32:09am |
re: #182 quickjustice
Was Charlemagne the same as Charles (the Hammer) Martel? At times in their history, the French have saved Western Civilization. Their alliance with us certainly doomed the British during the American Revolution.
When they're allies, they're good to have on board. When they play games, they can be unpleasant.
You're right. Thanks. It was Martel whom I was thinking of -- the battle of Tours -- grandfather of Charlemagne.
| 224 |
kansas Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:32:47am |
re: #217 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
"'What' ain't no country I ever heard of! They speak English in 'What'?"
Say what one more time,
| 225 |
tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:32:48am |
re: #218 Egfrow
Obama's cocky ass believes he has an aura of invincibility around him being a shield made of the MSM and sycophantic staff members. He has too much faith in the loyalty he's being granted now. It will all turn on him in a New York minute. Ask McCain, he understands the MSM ability to turn on you more than most.
I don't know why you think they will turn on him... I can't see it... I hope I'm wrong but I see the swooning continuing until November 4...
| 226 |
calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:33:21am |
re: #201 tfc3rid
It's funny you should point that out. I have a number of Dem/liberal friends who, when I point our historical precedents and historical reasons why their ideas won't work, have the attitude of "f**k history, this is the way the world SHOULD be." They haven't a clue that it is that kind of collectivist mentality that caused the starvation deaths of millions under Stalin's Five-Year Plan, Mao's Cultural Revolution and Pol Pot's Great Re-Education.
They criticize the Right/Conservatives for not respecting nature aka Gaia, Mother Earth (who, if she really is Mom, should be reported to whatever CPS unit has jurisdiction over her) when they fail to respect history which is the best indicator of the human nature they seek to change.
| 227 |
Silhouette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:33:23am |
re: #205 Teacake!
I'm not interested in sacrificing anything for the global good.
What's more, it is never, ever for the good.
Everytime communism, central planning, top-downward, authoritative crap is tried, it always results in misery, poverty, filth, and death.
| 228 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:33:54am |
re: #213 quickjustice
It was Charles (The Hammer) Martel, the Frankish Duke, who drove
back the Saracens at the Battle of Tours in 732, saving Western
Civilization and Europe from military conquest by the Saracens for 1276
years.Charlemagne (Charles I) came later.
And it was Dave (The Hammer) Schultz, the Flyers winger, who racked up 472 penalty minutes in 1974-75, saving the Flyers Stanely Cup Championship from the Buffalo Sabres.
| 229 |
Dianna Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:34:24am |
re: #182 quickjustice
No, Charles Martel was two generations before Charlemagne. Charles the Great was crowned Holy Roman Emperor in 800; Martel fought the battle of Tours in 740 or so. I'd have to look the date up.
| 230 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:34:26am |
If Obama refuses to answer only idiots keep asking....
Katie Couric To Obama: People Are "Scratching Their Heads" About Your Opposition To Surge
You rarely see an interview couch such hopeless inanity in the pretense of not getting an answer to the question, but, what can I say? Couric's a whiz at this. You see the problems coming a mile away when Couric frames the discussion as a response to people "scratching their heads," people "asking why," and people whose "eyebrows" are raised. Such people, of course, do not exist and cannot be named.
Spin!
| 231 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:34:28am |
re: #219 itellu3times
So, OK, I can't buy a pistol that shoots shotgun cartridges? Pity. Somebody better go arrest Hellboy.
Like to see them try.
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:35:15am |
re: #188 Opinionated
Louis XVI concluded the alliance with America, ensuring American victory over the British. We owe him that much respect.
As for the guillotine, while continuing to live in splendor in Versailles, Louis XVI was far more withdrawn and cloistered from the French people than his great-great grandfather, Louis XIV. As the people suffered, Louis and the royal family hid. The appearance of callous indifference to the plight of the French peasants cost the French royal family their lives.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:35:27am |
re: #227 Silhouette
What's more, it is never, ever for the good.
Everytime
communism, central planning, top-downward, authoritative crap is tried,
it always results in misery, poverty, filth, and death.
Or as P.J. O'Rourke said "The worship of collective power always results in some kind of drive-by shooting."
| 235 |
pingjockey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:35:34am |
Rush running Sarkozy sound bites. Makes the donks sound positively traitorous.
| 236 |
brainwizard73 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:35:40am |
re: #213 quickjustice
We could use a new "Hammer" or two. Clearly Martel won the battle, but the war is still in doubt.
| 237 |
tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:35:47am |
re: #228 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
And it was Dave (The Hammer) Schultz, the Flyers winger, who racked up 472 penalty minutes in 1974-75, saving the Flyers Stanely Cup Championship from the Buffalo Sabres.
Always there for Philly... Here's looking down at you!
| 238 |
WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:05am |
re: #226 calcajun
dude, reality gets in the way of their utopian vision.
| 239 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:15am |
MSM hearts Obama. (my linky don't worky): [Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:25am |
re: #197 WrathofG-d
you trying to say that the O"ssiah will CHANGE history and HOPE you don't notice?
(Bypassing the humor *grin*) ... I wonder if maybe he has such an inflated self-esteem that his own concept of history is all that matters to him.
/I may be over-thinking it
| 241 |
JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:26am |
re: #235 pingjockey
Rush running Sarkozy sound bites. Makes the donks sound positively traitorous.
Like that's a challenge.
| 242 |
Teacake! Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:30am |
I'm pretty sure the no more walls is referring to his master Soros's ideal for borderless world, open societies. Meaning I assume, the over population that other countries can't support will immigrate here and we will be obligated to sacrifice and pay the tab, like we do now, but there's that global poverty tax he wants to impose on us as well. Anyone know how that bill is coming along?
| 243 |
calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:38am |
re: #221 lawhawk
Marcellus for President! He'll get Winston Wolf to got to Iraq and "fix" things. Of course, I don't think he'll be too sensitive to any gay rights issues--not anymore.
| 244 |
Iron Fist Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:47am |
re: #210 Creeping Eruption,
It depends on what kind of mood the Feds are in. They went after Randy Weaver for being 1/4" too short.
Ten years seems a bit over the line to me. It is avoiding a tax, for God's sake. It should be a misdemenor and a fine at max.
They actually make 12 ga. pistols that only require a $5 tax. You can't put a stock on 'em, but they are cute.
| 245 |
quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:36:48am |
re: #192 doppelganglander
Thanks! You work fast, my friend! ;-)
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nyc redneck Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:37:01am |
re: #68 Charles
What? He couldn't even come out with a "merci beaucoup" for the French press?
he didn't say 'mer see beau KOOO', because he knows he says it like such an idiot.
| 247 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:37:10am |
re: #44 zombie
When it was rumored that Obama might visit the Vatican on his European tour, the Pope's palindromist was heard to remark,
"Amabo Obama."
That palindrome has a boob as its centerpiece.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:37:12am |
re: #237 tfc3rid
Always there for Philly... Here's looking down at you!
We'll see what happens after tonight's game. Jamie Moyer pitches a hell of a game & we lose. Santana pitches a hell of a game & you lose. Baseball's a funny sport.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:37:26am |
re: #202 calcajun
More like a Freudian half-slip with a camisole.
ROFL!
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MJBrutus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:37:34am |
re: #235 pingjockey
Makes them sound positively commie! Sarkozy talks about our only limits in America being set by our willingness to work and that we not owed anything that we do not earn.
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pingjockey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:37:54am |
re: #241 JamesTKirk
I know, but still it is very cool of Sarkozy to speak of our troops sacrifices for Europe and France.
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:38:01am |
re: #247 jaunte
That palindrome has a boob as its centerpiece.
Never say "boob" as if it's a bad thing.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:38:06am |
re: #238 WrathofG-d
No, reality must be overcome, no matter the cost to the people for whom we are trying to make it.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:38:39am |
re: #236 brainwizard73
We could use a new "Hammer" or two. Clearly Martel won the battle, but the war is still in doubt.
Judas "The Hammer" Maccabee, Charles "The Hammer" Martel - it's just a great name for defending civilization.
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jcm Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:38:52am |
re: #222 pingjockey
Somebody, IIRC makes a revolver that shoots .410 rounds.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:39:34am |
re: #250 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Would you prefer a Freudian bustier with garters?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:39:37am |
re: #228 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
And it was Dave (The Hammer) Schultz, the Flyers winger, who racked up 472 penalty minutes in 1974-75, saving the Flyers Stanely Cup Championship from the Buffalo Sabres.
puck you
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JohnnyReb Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:39:38am |
re: #244 Iron Fist
,
It depends on what kind of mood the Feds are in. They went after Randy Weaver for being 1/4" too short.
Ten years seems a bit over the line to me. It is avoiding a tax, for God's sake. It should be a misdemenor and a fine at max.
They actually make 12 ga. pistols that only require a $5 tax. You can't put a stock on 'em, but they are cute.
I would not want to shoot that thing. That is a wrist breaker if you don't have a good rock solid grip on it.
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Dianna Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:40:13am |
re: #192 doppelganglander
Excellent! I pulled it off the top of my head, I bow to your research skills!
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:40:35am |
re: #255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You're forgetting Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, of those great blaxplotation flicks of the 70's.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:41:06am |
My apologies to all for screwing up history.
/NOT channeling Obama ... thank G*d
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itellu3times Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:41:13am |
re: #222 pingjockey
Somebody, IIRC makes a revolver that shoots .410 rounds.
Hmm, apparently so, more or less:
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
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doppelganglander Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:41:18am |
Drudge at the moment has a hilarious picture of Sarkozy and Obama. They're on a staircase, with Sarkozy two or three steps up from Obama. Sarkozy's sizable heels are clearly visible. With all that, his head is barely even with Obama's.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:41:22am |
re: #262 calcajun
You're forgetting Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, of those great blaxplotation flicks of the 70's.
Sweet Christmas, you're right! I hope they don't take away my funk card for that oversight!
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Golem Akbar Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:41:28am |
#242 Teacake: I'm pretty sure the no more walls is referring to his master Soros's ideal for borderless world, open societies. Meaning I assume, the over population that other countries can't support will immigrate here and we will be obligated to sacrifice and pay the tab, like we do now, but there's that global poverty tax he wants to impose on us as well. Anyone know how that bill is coming along?
(my computer is not doing its thing)
Teacake: you are right on bingo.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:41:37am |
re: #248 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
We'll see what happens after tonight's game. Jamie Moyer pitches a hell of a game & we lose. Santana pitches a hell of a game & you lose. Baseball's a funny sport.
Ahhh... But the echoes... You were up 7.5... We've come back... Lead by 1... Ooooohhh... Scarrrrrryyyyyyy....
/
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:41:54am |
re: #244 Iron Fist
The feds around here lately have been going after heroin dealers. There have been a number of od's of young kids from the suburbs (gasp) so they have been coming down hard on the dealers, rolling up tons of distribution centers.
This guy is a 57 year old drunk who lives in his moms basement. I sure hope the feds focus their resources elsewhere and let the DA handle it.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:42:01am |
re: #266 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Turn in your platform shoes, jive turkey.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:42:37am |
re: #154 WrathofG-d
and from Israel to Berlin was pretty weird as well.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:42:59am |
re: #257 calcajun
Would you prefer a Freudian bustier with garters?
Is that what the dancers in Can-Can wore, which offended Nikita so much? If so, sounds good.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:43:58am |
re: #273 pre-Boomer Marine brat
You know, I have all these happy visions this lovely Friday. So much for getting any real work done.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:44:00am |
re: #253 JamesTKirk
Never say "boob" as if it's a bad thing.
"Obama is a boob" is a good thing?!?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:44:18am |
re: #205 Teacake!
Its so hard to keep track of BO's list of what he will demand of American's. I'm serious about wanting a list, because other than government controlled health care, he has said we will have to make sacrifices! I'm not interested in sacrificing anything for the global good. I don't have a fancy life, don't even own a car or an AC. I don't eat much either... if I did eat less as BO demands we Americans consider for global approval - well, I'm really not interested in the government dictating my food intake.
Anyhow, he demands a lot and so far hasn't offered anything other than national health care, hope and change.
I'd like to compile a list of his demands, as he sounds more like a dictator than a presidential candidate.
Sacrifices except for national health care? That will be a sacrifice!
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nyc redneck Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:44:21am |
i bet sarkozy sees thru this moron and does not want to see america elect him.
sarkozy praised america when he came here.
he respects america more than b.o. does.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:44:24am |
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:45:09am |
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:45:12am |
re: #216 Creeping Eruption
Just finished reading Hussey's "Secret History of Paris". My memory isn't THAT good! ;-)
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pingjockey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:45:31am |
re: #275 FurryOldGuyJeans
Well, it is an accurate descriptor.
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:45:47am |
re: #240 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Ok if we are going to be arm-chair psychologists, here is my take:
Obama, and his campaign, as byproducts of the 1960's "revolution" are exceptionally proud of themselves and truly see their place in history of one of CHANGE. This is not only change from GWB, or the old way of doing American politics but an international hippy universalist change of the way EVERYTHING works. Obama, and his campaign, actually see this young (CHANGE), black (CHANGE), guy as the spark that is going to finally accomplish all of their holier-than-thou socialist, universalist, humanist, one-world living side-by-side holding hands, "revolution" that failed in the 1960s.
Thus, they have so fully bought into their own hype and mishagaus about the O'ssiahness of their guy, they are only looking forward toward this NEW world that they are going to change, History no longer matters because it is the 2nd coming, the socialst, Leftist rapture if you will.
He is appealing to the young, spoiled, hippy-esque youth of the World, who have a scorn for the "old" realities (that communism kills more than it saves) and think that "anything is possible" if you solely will it!
History doesn't matter.....with The O'ssiah, everything will be different.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:45:59am |
re: #281 pingjockey
Well, it is an accurate descriptor.
Too bland for me. ;)
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vagabond trader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:46:11am |
What time will the Obama be paying respects to the dead in Normandy?
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yma o hyd Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:46:18am |
If youv'e seen the video of this, I apologise for this superfluous link:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
I was amazed how utterly bored and disdainful sarkozy looks, listening to BO's speech.
That is definitely not a treasured moment in BOs campaing, I don't think!
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:46:20am |
re: #276 Kosh's Shadow
Sacrifices except for national health care? That will be a sacrifice!
When I hear Barry O say that we must make sacrifices, why do I get these running images of Moloch, Aztec priests and "The Wicker Man" (the original with Christopher Lee)?
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x-ray Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:46:37am |
re: #219 itellu3times
Here's a pistol that shoot shotgun cartridges.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:46:41am |
re: #274 calcajun
You know, I have all these happy visions this lovely Friday. So much for getting any real work done.
Bustier visions?
You shouldn't keep abreast of things so well.
/was it trying too much?
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Opinionated Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:46:41am |
re: #3 Kosh's Shadow
Can we swap Obama for Sarkozy?
Michelle for Carla. With or without the husbands.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:47:30am |
If the Euros are so fond of the Obamassiah they can have him.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:47:35am |
I asked a one- world-er dufus lady (has her charms, bless 'er) just which set of laws should apply in her utopian vision of the future- locked her mind up and lost favor(s).
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Pyrocles Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:47:46am |
Everyone is forced down to the lowest social strata to prevent class envy. All people are not equal in intelligence, motivation, or desire; "equality" MUST be enforced by the government with an iron fist in order for Communism to succeed.
Commie wanna-bes just do not understand that. "The next time, we'll get Communism right; without the brutal government oppression", they say. Well, you NEED that oppression to keep every member of society equal to the lowest member.
re: #227 Silhouette
What's more, it is never, ever for the good.
Everytime communism, central planning, top-downward, authoritative crap is tried, it always results in misery, poverty, filth, and death.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:47:47am |
Obama sera en France pour plusieurs hours.he a beaucoup de temps pour apprendre le français
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pingjockey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:48:00am |
re: #284 vagabond trader
What? Didn't you know those were imperialist invaders, attacking the peaceful EU Hitler had diplomatically put together?!
Moonbat leftist mode off.
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:48:07am |
re: #284 vagabond trader
"This is the 6 beaches that my grandfather liberated during the 3rd world war between the West and the Nazis, after Germany bomed pearl harbor"
-Obama @ Normandy.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:48:31am |
re: #282 WrathofG-d
Wrath strikes again.
That's it!
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:49:05am |
re: #278 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Just wondering, what does the use of shot do to the lands?
No ill effects if not using "waterfowl" shot.
Your wrist will eventually not appreciate your big bore habit, however.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:49:28am |
re: #295 WrathofG-d
pos couldn't liberate a bathtub.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:49:35am |
re: #282 WrathofG-d
And you touch upon their disdain of human history, which if they ever understood it (they read it but don't "get" it) would tell them that their vision is nothing new. It's been tried before with disastrous results. Millions have died on that Utopian alter only to show that the system of which they dream does not work. But, it's part of their insanity that they are bound and determined to keep trying the same thing hoping the results will be different.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:49:56am |
re: #284 vagabond trader
What time will the Obama be paying respects to the dead in Normandy?
Right after he pays his respects at Belleau Wood.
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Opinionated Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:50:13am |
re: #233 quickjustice
Thanks for the history lesson.
But the question is: who who will history rate as more of an arrogant pompous jerk, Obama or Louis XVI?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:50:16am |
re: #287 x-ray
Here's a pistol that shoot shotgun cartridges.
Remember "Phantasm"? I so want to see The Mythbusters to see if a shotgun shell taped to a hammer can be used as a makeshift door-opener.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:51:18am |
re: #261 Dianna
Excellent! I pulled it off the top of my head, I bow to your research skills!
Thanks! It just took a minute on Wiki and was faster than trying to type out an explanation. I'm impressed you could do it off the top of your head.
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jcm Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:51:20am |
re: #305 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember "Phantasm"? I so want to see The Mythbusters to see if a shotgun shell taped to a hammer can be used as a makeshift door-opener.
The Mythbusters to see if a shotgun shell taped to a hammer can be used as a makeshift door-opener hand remover.
Fixed
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godfrey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:51:22am |
Please, please let someone photograph Eaubama sipping French wine and sampling cheese.
Please.
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nyc redneck Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:51:37am |
re: #302 ploome hineni
remember how they killed Piggy in Lord of the FLies?
the voice of reason must be shut
i'm so scared by that book, still.
lol
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:51:55am |
re: #304 Opinionated
Err, uhh, err, uhhh, uhhh, errr . . . . Forget the French language-- the question now is whether this guy speaks English!
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:52:08am |
re: #305 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember "Phantasm"? I so want to see The Mythbusters to see if a shotgun shell taped to a hammer can be used as a makeshift door-opener.
Uh, um let me think... uh , which of your, uh, friends, ah, are you gonna have, umm, try that out?
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Teacake! Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:52:34am |
When I think of how this national health care would come off I think of how FEMA handled things here in New Orleans, same with the army corp of engineers, I think of government housing projects, school lunches... basically, we get the little crumbs left after all the government people skim their portions off the top. At this point it seems the post office is the best the gov has to offer.
I also think our medical records would belong to the gov. And there would be hundreds of reasons we might not get serviced - for instance smokers, people with expensive pre-conditions, blah blah blah... I'd much rather see local clinics that perhaps received some gov funding, but not that the gov controls.
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pingjockey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:52:44am |
re: #308 godfrey
The obamessiah does not eat, drink, or shit. He is perfect and has no human flaws. //////
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x-ray Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:53:25am |
re: #305 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Yes I actually do remember Phantasm. That would be a cool Mythbusters test but I think the answer would be "Busted".
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:53:26am |
re: #299 beens21
LMAO. Love how he "pulls over" and then needs to take a leak.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:53:48am |
re: #305 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember "Phantasm"? I so want to see The Mythbusters to see if a shotgun shell taped to a hammer can be used as a makeshift door-opener.
Movie trivia -- see "The Lives of a Bengal Lancer", Gary Cooper. Their pistols have been taken, but they still have their cartridges. They empty the powder into the lock mechanism on the cell door ...
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kansas Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:53:55am |
re: #310 quickjustice
Err, uhh, err, uhhh, uhhh, errr . . . . Forget the French language-- the question now is whether this guy speaks English!
That's English interspersed with the long uhhhhs, errrs, and anduhs.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:54:10am |
re: #307 jcm
The Mythbusters to see if a shotgun shell taped to a hammer can be used as a makeshift
door-openerhand remover.Fixed
LOL!
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:54:34am |
re: #312 Teacake!
At this point it seems the post office is the best the gov has to offer.
Thank eBay, according to my Going postal friend.
Your whole post was beautiful, by the way.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:55:12am |
re: #308 godfrey
Please, please let someone photograph Eaubama sipping French wine and sampling cheese.
Please.
PLEASE let someone photograph Obama trying to beat a French pig to a truffle!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:55:54am |
re: #314 x-ray
Yes I actually do remember Phantasm. That would be a cool Mythbusters test but I think the answer would be "Busted".
I'm sure Lance could adapt his sword-swinging robot rig to swing a shotgunned-up hammer.
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realwest Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:56:12am |
re: #285 yma o hyd
I hadn't seen that before, thanks. Sarkozky looks like a guy who has to go to the bathroom and is waiting for this fool to shut up! LOL!
I just can't wait until McCain wins - despite what appear to be all odds against him - and the Europeans realize that they have, once again, bet on the wrong horse in this race.
And McCain is known for his long memory!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:57:05am |
re: #320 godfrey
When will Eaubama visit la Vendée?
"Your Highness, the peasants are revolting!"
"You're telling me - they stink on ice!"
/History of The World Part One
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MJBrutus Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:57:09am |
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:57:21am |
re: #313 pingjockey
The obamessiah does not eat, drink, or shit. He is perfect and has no human flaws. //////
Can you imagine how much Obama poop would sell for on ebay, though?
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WrathofG-d Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:57:27am |
re: #301 calcajun
The education system (or at least the environment at Schools) enforce and foster this misunderstanding of history.
I was a marxist socialsit in College. Did I really know what that meant?..not so much! But even less did I know what happened in every instance that it was tried.
The education system as it is today builds onward-socialist soldiers, to finally "pefect, the perfect system that we are on the edge of finally realizing....and would be create a utopia but for the evil of Westernism."
Do I think Socialism could work? Yes, possibly. Do I believe it is the answer? Definately not. (and it for sure, sure isn't going to work if the Socialists of today are in charge.) I'd vote for a religous socialism.
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realwest Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:57:40am |
Well all y'all I gotta go try to mush some lunch now.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.
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Teacake! Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:58:11am |
#319 - Capitalist Tool
LOL! You might be right about ebay! I have often thought ebay saved the post office! LOL
oh and thanks.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 10:58:18am |
re: #328 realwest
Well all y'all I gotta go try to mush some lunch now.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.
Farewell realwest... Be well!
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:00:47am |
re: #329 Teacake!
It's a sad thought that the Post Office is the best the Gov't has to offer.
Exclusing military endeavors, of course, (won't get started on the big green weenie).
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pingjockey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:01:44am |
re: #326 tfc3rid
Hahahahaha! Some kkkoz kid would buy it.
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jorline Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:01:50am |
In the immortal words of Cheech & Chong...Parlez-vous-a-huma-huma
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godfrey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:02:54am |
re: #323 realwest
Your words to God's ear, my friend.
re: #321 pre-Boomer Marine brat
It would also do to photograph him sniffing at rillettes, confused.
re: #324 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Ha. Did Eaubama ever question France's strict policy of laïcité? He's the Shining Shaman of Faith, n'est-ce pas?
Rien pour la foi, Monsieur Eaubama? Tant pis pour nous.
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Teacake! Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:03:04am |
Like - the military being obligated to respect the culture of the enemy?
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Egfrow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:03:26am |
re: #225 tfc3rid
I don't know why you think they will turn on him... I can't see it... I hope I'm wrong but I see the swooning continuing until November 4...
Human Nature. Pure Human Nature. No-one can stand fakes for too long, Not even other fakes.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:05:27am |
re: #336 Egfrow
Human Nature. Pure Human Nature. No-one can stand fakes for too long, Not even other fakes.
I wish I could share in your optimism... I will fight to defeat the Obama menace but I think his 'legions' are too strong this time...
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HoosierHoops Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:06:07am |
re: #328 realwest
Well all y'all I gotta go try to mush some lunch now.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.
se bientôt .. Realwest ont un grand jour
/ I'm practicing french just in case obama gets elected
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jorline Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:07:32am |
re: #70 Killian Bundy
Why the hell is he holding a joint press conference with the French President?
/what gaul!
That would be de gaulle in French.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:08:40am |
re: #327 WrathofG-d
Socialism is as much a religion as any organized faith, and a lot less tolerant. In order for socialism to really work, everyone must be on the same idealogical page--all must be working toward the greater collective good. Otherwise, there is dissension, distraction and failure of the great and lofty goals. The grumblers have to be re-educated and re-trained to think like the rest of us so that there are no more "reactionary" elements and we can go forward into the broad sunlit uplands! (Churchill would cringe, but I could not resist)
But, if we can't retrain them, they must be liquidated. Sorry, but society demands it.
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Teacake! Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:09:07am |
I have no doubt at all that should - God forbid - BO get elected that he would build a mosque on WH grounds and demand we sacrifice those walls and introduce sharia in our Constitution.
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yma o hyd Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:11:06am |
re: #323 realwest
McCain should look at the faces of the European leaders BO has met - Angela Merkel yesterday looked just about polite, and as if she had a slice of lemon in her mouth when shaking BO's hand.
Sarkozy - wow, i could not believe it, he's been to a visit here in the UK and he was beaming all the time, huge difference.
We'll see how Gordon looks tomorrow (yeah BO is gracing us with his presence ...!).
I think the leaders are exceedingly underwhelmed - adn they have met him face to face without a teleprompter. Also, they dislike being used a campaign fodder. I'm sure McCain will see that, just as in the USA, BO is a fabrication of media hype, and the people and eladers don't really fall for him.
I think McCain is very wise not to do such a tour - the time for that is after Nov 4, when he's won the election.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:11:14am |
re: #336 Egfrow
Human Nature. Pure Human Nature. No-one can stand fakes for too long, Not even other fakes.
Tell that to the Germans when they stuck themselves with the Nazi party.
Speaking of which, I look at Barry's press coverage and am amazed that the MSM has unwittingly made either a sequel or a re-make of "Triumph of the Will" The only thing missing is the shots of the zeppelins.
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runrabbitrun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:12:03am |
re: #336 Egfrow
Human Nature. Pure Human Nature. No-one can stand fakes for too long, Not even other fakes.
I see The World Tour as another distraction thrown to distract the conversation from his positions, past associations and empty resume, but Obama Mission Control is brilliant, purely politically speaking.
I hope that the dynamic that allowed them to leave Hillary in the dust despite Barry's continual later losses in the primaries won't be successful here: build up a huge lead in brand loyalty and enthusiasm that will make up for any doubts later.
The polls aren't telegraphing that, though - yet
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KenJen Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:12:53am |
I heard BHO visited the Clichy-sous-Bois district of Paris to do a little "community organizing". Apparently they've been having a little trouble with "youths" in that region for some time now. BHO to the rescue.
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:12:54am |
re: #313 pingjockey
Ever hear the expression "farting perfume"?
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:13:34am |
Okay--I get it:
"Audacity of Hope" = "Triumph of the Will"
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Egfrow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:14:13am |
re: #343 calcajun
Tell that to the Germans when they stuck themselves with the Nazi party.
Speaking of which, I look at Barry's press coverage and am amazed that the MSM has unwittingly made either a sequel or a re-make of "Triumph of the Will" The only thing missing is the shots of the zeppelins.
The main difference between Germans and Americans, at least the ones I know, is that Americans are individualists and like to think for themselves while the German people of the day always turned to the state.
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yma o hyd Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:14:40am |
re: #327 WrathofG-d
That is very interesting - and with your take on BO, I wonder if you also see the parallells between progressivism and fascism which Goldberg describes in his book 'Liberal Fascism'.
BO fits precisely into that scheme, as do his admirers.
I find the parallells pretty scary, but they do explain very well a number of things which I only felt but couldn't articulate.
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Silhouette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:15:05am |
re: #340 calcajun
In order for socialism to really work, everyone must be on the same idealogical page
By their own plan, the state cannot "fade away" until everyone is socialist. Thus they must take over the world. They are quite open in this goal.
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:17:24am |
re: #317 kansas
If Bush gets grief about saying "nucular", that makes Obama's "misspeaks" both open season, and shooting fish in a barrel!
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yma o hyd Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:17:38am |
re: #343 calcajun
Aww - Riefenstahl was much much better!
That plane, coming out of the clouds as the sun breaks through, bearing Hitler to the rally at Nurmeberg - unsurpassed! BO and his lot are bloody greenhorns compared to her, and bad ones at that as well.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:17:55am |
re: #350 Silhouette
Which will never happen because of basic human nature. So, the state will always exist. I kinda think Marx and Engels knew that all along.
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:18:45am |
re: #44 zombie
Excellent! Take a gold star out of petty cash!
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:19:27am |
re: #348 Egfrow
The main difference between Germans and Americans, at least the ones I know, is that Americans are individualists and like to think for themselves while the German people of the day always turned to the state.
I'll never forget a plane trip in the early '70s when the German seated next to me said that " the Americans have it all wrong on oil business. We Germans all own and share the oil resources, not some companies."
I asked him just which of the world's great discoveries or oilfields or tech innovations were German?
He never spoke another word the entire trip to Tokyo, which was hours and hours.
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quickjustice Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:19:42am |
re: #343 calcajun
Berlin was the only part of Germany to vote overwhelmingly against Hitler in the final election in which he was elected Chancellor. The rural areas of Germany, and Bavaria, were overwhelmingly pro-Nazi.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:19:47am |
re: #352 yma o hyd
I agree. Just imagine if she could have done it in the Technicolor film stock they had in that day. Cripes; look at how vibrant "Gone With the Wind" and "Wizard of Oz" are. The MSM are rank amateurs.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:20:42am |
re: #352 yma o hyd
Aww - Riefenstahl was much much better!
That plane, coming out of the clouds as the sun breaks through, bearing Hitler to the rally at Nurmeberg - unsurpassed! BO and his lot are bloody greenhorns compared to her, and bad ones at that as well.
Please, no praise of L.R.
Mussolini made the trains run on time.
/
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:21:41am |
re: #357 quickjustice
I know--the Nazis won a minor majority in the Reichstag and Hindenburg had Hitler form a coalition government. The rest is bloody history.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:23:47am |
re: #317 kansas
That's English interspersed with the long uhhhhs, errrs, and anduhs.
So Obama speaks "Uhhhh-by duhhhh-by".
[shout out to all you "Zoom" fans]
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SFGoth Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:24:56am |
It's funny. At my law firm, one of the (3) shareholders speaks some French, and we have a *beautiful* French/French Caribbean girl who obviously does, and in the past we've had several others that speak some French. I'm in the non-French crowd (basic German and Japanese). So, the French speakers go on and on in French and I barge in with Doitch or Nippongo. French is a pretty language, but I'm not about to learn it.
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:25:33am |
re: #141 Occasional Reader
If bad puns were a crime, you'd be on death row.
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godfrey Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:28:00am |
Eaubama a dit:
"I am a candidate for president," he said. "But there's a wonderful tradition in the United States, that's not always observed, but I think is a good one. Which is that you don't spend time criticizing a sitting president when you're overseas."
Weasel.
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:28:38am |
re: #182 quickjustice
No, if i remember correctly Charles Martel was Charlemagne's grandfather.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:28:50am |
As much as I might not like the Jr. Senator from Illinois, I think this crosses the line in going after him:
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]
It's like wire-tapping a confessional.
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Egfrow Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:28:59am |
re: #355 Capitalist Tool
A good portion of Americans have been conned into believing corporations are responsible for all the problems while never rationalizing where every single thing that makes their lives comfortable actually comes from.
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runrabbitrun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:32:05am |
re: #362 Occasional Reader
So Obama speaks "Uhhhh-by duhhhh-by".
[shout out to all you "Zoom" fans]
Hey Occasional Reader! Thanks for the Zoom shout-out!
Wasn't there some kind of puzzle or riddle behind the specifics of Ubby Dubby (sp?)? I actually tried googling this just a few weeks ago as I was asking my daughters if they ever figured it out - they gave clues in each Zoom mention of what this secret language was and was not - and my kids didn't know.
If you have any insight into the answer, me and the grampa rabbit'd be much obliged...
(If you know how to do that hand trick which made it look like the Zoom cast could cross their arms and pass them through each other, it'd be great too!)
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:34:10am |
re: #262 calcajun
You're forgetting Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, of those great blaxplotation flicks of the 70's.
Also, Edward III, the Hammer of the Scots.
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kansas Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:34:16am |
re: #308 godfrey
Please, please let someone photograph Eaubama sipping French wine and sampling cheese.
Please.
So Chris Matthews can get another tingle up his leg?
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Silhouette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:34:38am |
re: #370 ploome hineni
I read it as, "Obama says that Israel can defend itself against rockets but says Palestinians must have a place from which to launch rockets at Israel."
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tfc3rid Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:36:38am |
re: #375 winston06
Hussein Obama is embarrassing. Who does he think he is?
He thinks he is the President of the United States.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:36:47am |
re: #367 calcajun
As much as I might not like the Jr. Senator from Illinois, I think this crosses the line in going after him:
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]
It's like wire-tapping a confessional.
I agree. It is absolutely over the line.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:37:03am |
re: #369 runrabbitrun
Your "Zoom" knowlege clearly exceeds mine. Sorry, no help!
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:38:11am |
re: #282 WrathofG-d
And Wrath,
What will happen when these elitists see that their idea of utopia is being restrained by people, organizations and other groups? When the "obstructionists" stand in the way of the paradise tha The Messiah has promised them?
With France and Russia as models, I foresee a tyranny. Mind you, in their eyes, a beneficial tyranny.
Remember Saint Juste!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:39:13am |
re: #371 grumpy old codger
Also, Edward III, the Hammer of the Scots.
You will not mention that man.
/on pain of being bombarded with bagpipe videos
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yma o hyd Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:39:36am |
re: #360 Capitalist Tool
Please, no praise of L.R.
Mussolini made the trains run on time.
/
Sorry - forgot the sarc tag!
I'm indeed not praising her, that would be on the same level as praising Goebbels for his (for the Nazis) outstanding success at propaganda.
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runrabbitrun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:43:14am |
re: #379 Occasional Reader
Your "Zoom" knowlege clearly exceeds mine. Sorry, no help!
well, sending thanks anyway - after two biological kids and over 20 foster children - now you know why this old rabbit's fur is graying - you can imagine how many Zoom episodes I've sat through (at least that's my excuse)
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sngnsgt Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:43:20am |
I had French toast for breakfast yesterday, that's more French than Obama knows.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:43:53am |
re: #371 grumpy old codger
I kind torn on the old Mallus Scotus. I have English and Scots blood in me. But, it's the dozens of times I've seen Braveheart that make me dislike him.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:44:46am |
re: #381 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Ohhh. Someone let the cat out of the haggis.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:46:01am |
re: #386 calcajun
Ohhh. Someone let the cat out of the haggis.
*grin*
I've seen it written that the Highland pipes are the sound of a cat caught in a garbage disposal
/still music to the ear
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:46:35am |
re: #381 pre-Boomer Marine brat
You will not mention that man.
/on pain of being bombarded with bagpipe videos
My grandmother, a Mackinnon from Skye, used to regale us with tales of how Longshanks, when he died before he could launch another expoediution north to conquer the Scots, arranged to have the flesh boiled off his bones, so that the bones could go into battle.
Like him or not, a tough dude!
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:48:20am |
re: #387 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Aye, tis but a poor piper that makes such a wail. But a deft man will make sweet sounds indeed such that will lift the spirit and chill the blood of our enemies.
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Son of the Black Dog Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:49:30am |
re: #284 vagabond trader
What time will the Obama be paying respects to the dead in Normandy?
You're assuming the BHO even knows where Normandy is or what happened there. Both of which I doubt.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:49:32am |
re: #384 sngnsgt
I had French toast for breakfast yesterday, that's more French than Obama knows.
French "toast"
(this comes up as the top result in a Google search for "French Military Victories")
click the link ... "Did you mean: french military defeats"
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:51:45am |
re: #388 grumpy old codger
My grandmother, a Mackinnon from Skye, used to regale us with tales of how Longshanks, when he died before he could launch another expoediution north to conquer the Scots, arranged to have the flesh boiled off his bones, so that the bones could go into battle.
Like him or not, a tough dude!
Yes, it would take a man like that.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:52:34am |
re: #389 calcajun
Aye, tis but a poor piper that makes such a wail. But a deft man will make sweet sounds indeed such that will lift the spirit and chill the blood of our enemies.
Heh ... Ypres, "Ladies from Hell"
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crabtree Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:53:07am |
Since the French seem to give the Messiah higher positive ratings than Sarkozy, maybe we could agree to a trade. We would definitely be getting the better of the deal
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:54:59am |
Who's the arrogant dick
That's a lie machine to all the MSM?
SHAM!
Ya damn right!
Who is the man that would throw his grandma
under a speeding bus man?
SHAM!
Can you dig it?
Who's the cat that won't tell the truth
When it’s staring him in the face?
SHAM!
Right On!
They say this cat Sham is a messiah
SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
I'm talkin' 'bout Sham.
THEN WE CAN DIG IT!
He's a duplicitous man
But no one understands him but his woman
Barack Obama SHAM!
Sarc and snark....
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:56:30am |
Sigh, my French friends are feeling bad. . .I only used to make fun of them about their love for Jerry Lewis movies. . .
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:56:58am |
re: #394 crabtree
Since the French seem to give the Messiah higher positive ratings than Sarkozy, maybe we could agree to a trade. We would definitely be getting the better of the deal
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:57:25am |
re: #396 sngnsgt
LOL!
Oh, SNAP! My French Underground descendants would disagree, and declare that their victories were ignored or misquoted. . .
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 11:58:10am |
re: #396 sngnsgt
LOL!
That's been around since before March 2003. The linked page lists all France's defeats and draws. Quite a list.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:00:08pm |
re: #399 DisturbedEma
Oh, SNAP! My French Underground descendants would disagree, and declare that their victories were ignored or misquoted. . .
And I would quickly avoid any sort of confrontation with the Maquis
/BOTH respect AND self-preservation
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sngnsgt Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:01:14pm |
re: #400 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I've never thought to look up French military defeats OR victories. It falls under the "who cares" category.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:02:10pm |
re: #401 pre-Boomer Marine brat
And I would quickly avoid any sort of confrontation with the Maquis
/BOTH respect AND self-preservation
vous avez choisi. . . sagement. . .
And my dad and brother are Marines. . .
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abilene Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:04:19pm |
President Sarkozy is more of an American patriot than Barry!
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_remembertonyc Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:04:31pm |
i really believe obama has done things on this trip to give McCain lots of ammunition. and it looks like McCain may finally be getting it. his people need to focus on how obama went to Europe to suck up. But Euros don't vote, so which constituency is closer to his heart? McCain the war hero vs obama the "Eurofellater."
also ... going on foreign soil to do a "mea culpa" for the horrible US was a miscalculation of large import. Those Germans already rejected the anti US schroeder and elected Merkel. And France did the same with Sarkozy replacing chirac. The Euros actually may "get it" more than obama does. And thus the tepid applause in Berlin.
These are major mistakes by obama.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:06:27pm |
re: #402 sngnsgt
I've never thought to look up French military defeats OR victories. It falls under the "who cares" category.
I agree. I discovered this off (now-defunct) "francestinks.com".
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Annar Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:07:35pm |
Il est déjà regrettable qu'une si belle langue est gaspillée sur les Français mais pire encore serait une tentative d'Obambi de la parler!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:08:05pm |
re: #403 DisturbedEma
vous avez choisi. . . sagement. . .
And my dad and brother are Marines. . .
They have my respect. My dad was 1939-64 "Old Corps".
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sngnsgt Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:08:25pm |
I just talked to a relative on the phone who is an ultra lefty-moonbat, she says, "Obama is 'peaking' too soon, and when it comes to the important day, election day, people will have been suffering Obama-burn out."
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:10:55pm |
I've got to run.
Everyone have a great afternoon.
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debutaunt Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:11:59pm |
re: #364 grumpy old codger
If bad puns were a crime, you'd be on death row.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
| 419 |
DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:12:03pm |
re: #411 Annar
Il est déjà regrettable qu'une si belle langue est gaspillée sur les Français mais pire encore serait une tentative d'Obambi de la parler!
Je suis d'accord, le français est pour la belle âme
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:12:39pm |
re: #399 DisturbedEma
Your relatives work on Le Metro?
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:13:00pm |
re: #420 grumpy old codger
Your relatives work on Le Metro?
Ha ha. . .
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n in wi Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:13:24pm |
re: #414 sngnsgt
I just talked to a relative on the phone who is an ultra lefty-moonbat, she says, "Obama is 'peaking' too soon, and when it comes to the important day, election day, people will have been suffering Obama-burn out."
Now we know why Michelle Obama is so angry.
Mr.Obama peaks too soon, or scientifically ,he is a premature ejaculater
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:15:55pm |
OT from my home state. . .
FRIDAY, July 25, 2008, 1:21 p.m.
By Steven Walters
Dems replace delegate who supports McCain
Madison - Leaders of Wisconsin's Democratic Party today unanimously took away a delegate seat at the Democratic National Convention from a Racine-area party leader who had promised to vote for Republican Sen. John McCain instead of Sen. Barack Obama.
Debra Bartoshevich of Waterford had supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination for president over Obama and said in June that she would not support the Illinois senator.
Her declaration embarrassed and surprised state party leaders and delegates to the state Democratic Party convention, which passed a resolution asking that her delegate credentials to the national convention in Denver be revoked. National Democratic Party officials said Wisconsin party leaders should judge one of their own, however.
Today in a conference call, a majority of the state Democratic Party's Administrative Committee voted to replace Bartoshevich with another party leader from the 1st Congressional District. Marilyn Nemeth, a retired educator and former board member of the Wisconsin Education Association Council, will replace Bartoshevich.
Party official Jason Rae said he and other Democrats filed the challenge because Bartoshevich had violated rules that require all national convention delegates to support the Democratic nominee for president.
But Bartoshevich said would like to go to Denver to vote for Clinton as the party's nominee. A first-time delegate to the national convention, she said it was an "emotional time" for her when Clinton conceded that Obama would be the party's nominee because of how hard she had worked for Clinton.
But asked whether she would support the party's presidential nominee, Bartoshevich said: "I'm still getting to know Senator Obama. . . . It's very difficult for me in two weeks, or less than that, to switch my support and be 100% behind somebody. . . . I would like to go to the convention and listen to Barack Obama."
"I didn't run to the McCain campaign; they called me," she said. She said her sister put her name on the McCain campaign Web site.
But Democratic veteran Dottie LeClaire of Appleton told Bartoshevich: "You reached right back and hugged them. I have a problem with that."
LeClaire said she had backed former Sen. John Edwards for president, but she and other rank-and-file Democrats are now backing Obama in the interest of party unity.
Former state Democratic Party Chairman Linda Honold said she also had backed Clinton, but there was a need now "to support the Democratic Party." Honold moved to oust Bartoshevich as a delegate, a motion that was seconded by state Rep. Gary Sherman (D-Port Wing).
In May, Nemeth finished second - behind Bartoshevich - in voting by Democrats in the 1st Congressional District voting to pick female delegates to the Aug. 25-28 national convention.
Wisconsin Democrats will have 92 voting delegates at the national convention.
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_remembertonyc Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:16:08pm |
414 ... I agree on the peaking too soon angle.
McCain started slowly and was counted out last year, but he ended up winning. This time he will need to fight the media as well as the dems and soros' gang. But I think he's gonna nip obama at the finish line.
| 425 |
yma o hyd Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:16:15pm |
re: #398 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I just knew that Carla would figure here, somehow!
| 426 |
DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:17:09pm |
But asked whether she would support the party's presidential nominee, Bartoshevich said: "I'm still getting to know Senator Obama. . . . It's very difficult for me in two weeks, or less than that, to switch my support and be 100% behind somebody. . . . I would like to go to the convention and listen to Barack Obama."
"I didn't run to the McCain campaign; they called me," she said. She said her sister put her name on the McCain campaign Web site.
But Democratic veteran Dottie LeClaire of Appleton told Bartoshevich: "You reached right back and hugged them. I have a problem with that."
LeClaire said she had backed former Sen. John Edwards for president, but she and other rank-and-file Democrats are now backing Obama in the interest of party unity.
My favorite part. . . unity not change. . .
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:19:26pm |
re: #399 DisturbedEma
Oh, SNAP! My French Underground descendants would disagree, and declare that their victories were ignored or misquoted. . .
I say that it was more to the shame of France that out of a population of 50 million, less than 100,000 were part of the underground--and most of them were communists.
| 428 |
calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:21:25pm |
re: #422 n in wi
OK, not to be a prude, but that was a little coarse.
| 429 |
calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:22:28pm |
re: #415 taxfreekiller
The correct term is "crowned". Thank you.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:25:32pm |
re: #427 calcajun
I say that it was more to the shame of France that out of a population of 50 million, less than 100,000 were part of the underground--and most of them were communists.
Yes, but again, the contribution should not be ignored. . .
| 431 |
looking closely Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:31:00pm |
Its a sad day when the President of France is more conservative than the possible President of the USA.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:31:16pm |
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Ojoe Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:34:32pm |
Many of the French who had fighting spirits were killed in WW1, It is to their credit that they fielded close to 100,000.
| 435 |
pbird Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:53:04pm |
re: #13 Noam Sayin'
Omelette du fromage.
Hi Dexter!
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iowavette Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:03:14pm |
The Europeans like BO because he's another Clintonesque weak sister they can wink and nod over. "W" the cowboy, on the other hand clearly meant business, and he proved it. The sad fact is I don't give a hairy rat's what Europe thinks about the U. S. I sure as hell don't give Europe much thought.
| 437 |
reno911 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:21:23pm |
Je voudrais une croissant
Je suis enchante
Ou est le bibliotheque?
Voila mon passport
Ah, Gerard Depardieu
Un baguette, ah ha ha, oh oh oh oh
!
| 439 |
Eagle of Freedom Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:34:12pm |
Obama has got so much in common with the French. Both are too snooty and elitist to give the time of day to Real Americans. And both have made surrender into an art form.
Now excuse me while I go vomit.
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:35:14pm |
re: #427 calcajun
I say that it was more to the shame of France that out of a population of 50 million, less than 100,000 were part of the underground--and most of them were communists.
IIRC, the first adherents to Le Resistance were the social outcasts. The communists, towing the party line, did not become active until after June, 1941.
| 441 |
cybermonk Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:12:01pm |
re: #236 brainwizard73
Judah Maccabee was also known as "the Hammer"
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:27:27pm |
re: #440 grumpy old codger
Which was kinda when the Resistance movement went into high gear. Until then, the Commintern had ordered all communists in France to cooperate with the Germans.
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calcajun Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:30:13pm |
re: #437 reno911
The funniest bit of pretension I have ever seen was in a coffee shop in the Beverly Center almost 20 years ago when I overheard a nicely dressed Beverly Hills maven order, "Cafe au lait, please. With milk."
I kid you not.
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crabtree Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:25:23pm |
A matronly friend of a friend (also in So Cal as a matter of fact) would proudly explain that her black poodle was named No-ir [pronounced no-ear]. It means black in French, you know.
Cafe au lait with milk reminds me of one of my pet peeves about menus. Roast beef "served with au jus". Or even worse "au jus sauce".
| 446 |
Mardukhai Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:07:29pm |
re: #445 crabtree
As in Film No Ear?
I personally can't stand "soup du jour" -- in most places, it's bean soup.
| 447 |
KSK Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:27:12pm |
Oh I forgot to comment on the Berlin restaurant Obama went to:
It's about the most snobbish, arrogant place in Berlin, serving outrageously overpriced mediocre food hyped by the gullible media.
Does that remind you of someone?
| 448 |
his royal highness Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:55:20pm |
Most Americans that I work with in international business speak another language other than English. I don't understand why you all are so hyped-up over this - in a globalized world it helps our country's competitiveness to speak another language.
And France is, after all, a major American ally.
| 449 |
So? Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:01:40pm |
re: #3 Kosh's Shadow
Can we swap Obama for Sarkozy?
(And some French models to be named later)
can we swap them both for Bruni? yeah. gee, thks.
| 451 |
So? Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:07:28pm |
re: #442 cygnus
Tit for tat.
une "seine" pour un tat. ou une kitkat?
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So? Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:10:04pm |
re: #437 reno911
Je voudrais une croissant *** porquoi, tu est gros comme une elephante
Je suis enchante **** oui , bien sure
Ou est le bibliotheque? fait une gauche, apres une droit, et ne tombe pas
Voila mon passport ---tu est un voleur...police!
Ah, Gerard Depardieu...feh feh feh
Un baguette, ah ha ha, oh oh oh oh ...avec une petit steak grillé
!
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jcw46 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:22:27pm |
re: #34 JammieWearingFool
How does one say empty suit in Fwench?
costume vide
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jcw46 Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:27:27pm |
re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Great scene.
Whydoes France deserve such amagnificentpompous national anthem?
Yes
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LEGION Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:57:03pm |
Yanks leading the smelly bo-sux 1-0 bottom of the 6th.
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LEGION Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:57:35pm |
Joba Chamberlin leading Josh Beckett! Go Joba GO!
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LEGION Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:58:52pm |
Anyway- back to the thread- hope osama obama's car get burned in fwwwwaannncccee. Then he can meri beuacoup up his toodle loo.
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tommygum Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:56:16pm |
re: #444 calcajun
The funniest bit of pretension I have ever seen was in a coffee shop in the Beverly Center almost 20 years ago when I overheard a nicely dressed Beverly Hills maven order, "Cafe au lait, please. With milk."
I kid you not.
I've heard "Perrier and water".
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