Sheesh. The embed code from that page is showing the alligator bite video.

What up, Reuters?

Surprise...Surprise

Hmmmm - was there a back room deal?

Wrong video...

re: #1 Charles

Sheesh. The embed code from that page is showing the alligator bite video.

What up, Reuters?

Now McCain/Obama ad wars

Obama lost his toe to an alligator?

I thought Karadzic was white? Who knew?

re: #1 Charles

Sheesh. The embed code from that page is showing the alligator bite video.

Wow. That is truly defiant! Bit his arm right off!

OK, fixed now if you reload the page.

I'm sure he's defiant- Serbs are pricks.

re: #7 Nevergiveup

I thought Karadzic was white? Who knew?

A two-armed maniac?

re: #1 Charles

Sheesh. The embed code from that page is showing the alligator bite video.

What up, Reuters?

Too bad at first I thought they'd just fed Karadzic to an alligator and skipped the whole trial.

Forget that loser.....
Bibi 's Back, Baby.......
[Link: ap.google.com...]

re: #1 Charles

Hacked by PETA......

Mass Murderers aren't very entertaining are they?

I'm getting deja vu. didn't we do this already?

WOW...the before and after capture pics remind me of Saddam...could be brothers...same mind set!

He has an invisible adviser? Was he treating himself with alternative medicine while he was in hiding playing doctor?

Genocidal dictators and their thugs usually are defiant.

Right up until the moment the floor drops out from under them.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Let the delays begin.

re: #15 Nevergiveup

Not so much.
Really, they suck....but I am so tired of all the networks and cables going batsheet over every pervert serial murderer, sociopath mom, and whacked out religious zealot on the rampage.....
Seriously, I hurt for her folks, but why is that poor little Caylee in FL nonstop headline news? Obviously it's another psycho mom gone berserk and lying.
Enough.

Apologies for veering seriously O/T, ya'll...
Back to dishing re the despot.

Brothers from different Mothers...here and here

re: #23 jorline

Another Dr Death, Serbian style.

'Ey! Why not be defiant? The jig's up, why not go out in style?

Like Slobo, this guy will be a Serbian national hero by the end of the week. U.N. trials are so Kafkaesque and so transparently unfair that they inevitably generate sympathy for the defendant.

re: #10 Sharmuta

I'm sure he's defiant- Serbs are pricks.

Helluva broad brush there.

Shit, Hitler never killed a thread like this guy!

re: #27 wolfie

Well, I have very little sympathy for the Serbs. They are a dysfunctional nation almost on par with the Palestinians.

re: #26 Dirk Diggler

Like Slobo, this guy will be a Serbian national hero by the end of the week. U.N. trials are so Kafkaesque and so transparently unfair that they inevitably generate sympathy for the defendant.

Good point. I wish the UN weren't so incompetent and morally bankrupt. This guy needs to be publicly condemned and punished, but the UN hasn't got the credibility to do it right.
But what other choice do we have?

Miserable murdering bastard. Thank god they got him. Now, For Bin Laden and Whitey Bulger...

re: #27 wolfie

The man's a mass murderer. His countrymen burned our embassy, rioted in the streets that he would face justice, and beat up on their neighbors. They've earned their reputation in my book.

re: #31 CapeCoddah

I have doubts the Hague would even hear a case against Bin Laden.

re: #31 CapeCoddah

Miserable murdering bastard. Thank god they got him. Now, For Bin Laden and Whitey Bulger...

He looks alittle like Whitey Bulger?

re: #10 Sharmuta

I'm sure he's defiant- Serbs are pricks.

you know i dispise what this man has wrought..
I don't think it's fair to say serbs are pricks..

re: #20 debutaunt

LOL, The Hague does not want to imprison or execute any one, so they drag out the trials until the murdering bastards die of natural causes. Cowards.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Well, I have very little sympathy for the Serbs. They are a dysfunctional nation almost on par with the Palestinians.

Don't know if I'd go that far. That whole area is messed up though. I'm still trying to figure out who the good guys are.

re: #33 Killgore Trout
When we get Bin Laden, I am pretty sure he will not make it to trial anywhere, one can only hope.

re: #37 Racer X

Don't trust european ethnic nationalists.

re: #33 Killgore Trout

I have doubts the Hague would even hear a case against Bin Laden.

It's worse than that. He's dead Jim! /Bones

re: #36 CapeCoddah

LOL, The Hague does not want to imprison or execute any one, so they drag out the trials until the murdering bastards die of natural causes. Cowards.

Yeah, and they are trying the same approach with Nuclear Disarmament and the Spread of Nuclear Technology. Except it don't work that way!

re: #34 Nevergiveup
No one knows what Bulger looks like at this point, But, they will catch THAt murdering bastard too.

re: #20 debutaunt

Let the delays begin.

Just like Slobodan Milosevic Misonofabitch.

Serbs are the only nationality that it is politically correct to portray as bad guys in the movies.

re: #37 Racer X

Don't know if I'd go that far. That whole area is messed up though. I'm still trying to figure out who the good guys are.

Thery wear little American Flags on their uniforms.

OT

Ben Stein is on Glenn Beck tonight. He [Ben] has lost his mind. Watch the replay if you can.

Stein thinks:

:: McCain is subtly racist because he is running as an 'All American Guy", hinting therefore that Obama isn't.

:: White guilt is normal, those who don't feel it are some sort of sociopath, and guilt is a legitimate reason to vote for Obama.

:: The Kennedy/Reagan/Bush tax cuts didn't increase tax revenues to the feds.

:: Taxes should be raised on the rich.

Ben Stein is a zero to me now. He's gone over to the anti-reality side.

re: #35 HoosierHoops

I'm sure there are some Serbs who are decent people, but for the most part, what I've seen and what I've learned has left a very bad taste in my mouth concerning this group.

re: #37 Racer X

There aren't many saints in the region but even the ex-Nazi Croats can behave themselves. Kosovo is looking like it's going to be a very peaceful pro-American ally. The Serbs are still supporting their genocidal former leaders in great numbers. I have little doubt that they'd try it again if they thought there was any chance they could get away with it.

re: #36 CapeCoddah

LOL, The Hague does not want to imprison or execute any one, so they drag out the trials until the murdering bastards die of natural causes. Cowards.

It mocks actual justice.

re: #40 lawhawk

That's looking pretty likely.

re: #39 Sharmuta

Don't trust European ethnic nationalists.

That's a golden rule in understanding European politics - thank you.

re: #49 debutaunt

It mocks actual justice.

Kinda like the OJ trial?

re: #26 Dirk Diggler

Like Slobo, this guy will be a Serbian national hero by the end of the week. U.N. trials are so Kafkaesque and so transparently unfair that they inevitably generate sympathy for the defendant.

"D-D" -

Thanks for your estimate, mine was 200-300 years before he became the T-Shirt HERO of Serbia - MEET the NEW CHE - SAME AS THE OLD CHE - a WHOLESALE Butcher of Human Beings. I Hope We Won't Be Fooled Again - AND - We Will.

-S-

"The Dark Lord will rise again, Crouch! Throw us into Azkaban; we will wait! He will rise again and will come for us, he will reward us beyond any of his other supporters! We alone were faithful! We alone tried to find him!"
—Bellatrix Lestrange at her trial

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

re: #46 stevieray

Stein can put you on with a straight face..... is he maybe deadpanning it a little?
Just asking....... haven't seen it.

re: #46 stevieray

A brain transplant is the only explanation.

re: #26 Dirk Diggler

Like Slobo, this guy will be a Serbian national hero by the end of the week. U.N. trials are so Kafkaesque and so transparently unfair that they inevitably generate sympathy for the defendant.

He is already. Doesn't need any buffoon treatment to surge the already flaming Serbian pride over him.

re: #47 Sharmuta

I'm sure there are some Serbs who are decent people, but for the most part, what I've seen and what I've learned has left a very bad taste in my mouth concerning this group.

It's still not fair to portray an entire people as pricks...whoever the serbs are..Let's stick to calling Canadians pricks or dutch people..
I'm sure you've probably had a bad experience with them..
But it just isn't fair...
/off soapbox
regards

re: #46 stevieray

OT

Ben Stein is on Glenn Beck tonight. He [Ben] has lost his mind. Watch the replay if you can.

Stein thinks:

:: McCain is subtly racist because he is running as an 'All American Guy", hinting therefore that Obama isn't.

:: White guilt is normal, those who don't feel it are some sort of sociopath, and guilt is a legitimate reason to vote for Obama.

:: The Kennedy/Reagan/Bush tax cuts didn't increase tax revenues to the feds.

:: Taxes should be raised on the rich.

Ben Stein is a zero to me now. He's gone over to the anti-reality side.

Somebody needs to be checked for brain tumors.

re: #59 CyanSnowHawk

Somebody needs to be checked for brain tumors.

It does seem to be going around.

re: #58 HoosierHoops

They burned our embassy- they get no quarter from me.

Ah, now I get it.

They waited 10 years for this guy. Now he's facing charges of genocide.

I guess the UN is waiting for the Darfur genocide to quiet down, to run it's course so they'll only have to do one report about it. Ten years from now, some guy will be charged for everything in Darfur, after everything is finished.

I get it. I don't agree with it, but I get it.

^{_{I'm gonna miss the rotating headers :-(}}

re: #49 debutaunt

The International Court of Justice: Oxymoron(s) of the Weaek.
The yahoos in the Vague are not interested in justice

oh crap.. i forgot the /sarc..
I love you canadians...Keep the cubians coming..
oh crap..I'm not saying i smoke cigars..

Hope it's ok to repost a spin off link from earlier today on this topic. It has information that I wouldn't expect to find in the Reuter's video. The Age is reporting that there was a deal made back in 1996 with Holbrooke, Albright and Karadzic to evade capture. It could be misinformation from Karadzic, but who knows with the Clinton administration.
[Link: www.theage.com.au...]

re: #64 tradewind

The International Court of Justice: Oxymoron(s) of the Weaek.
The yahoos in the Vague are not interested in justice

What a disgrace for all the victims.

re: #44 Alouette
That goes back to Gavrilo Princip, who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand, and touched off WWl.

re: #49 debutaunt
Did you expect something else from a UN court?

re: #63 littleoldlady

Hey, Where'd they go?

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Hey, Where'd they go?

Uh oh, Charles better be ready for a revolt.

Springtime for Nasrallah....

Hezbollah's Allah-Akbar Music Vid

re: #55 tradewind

Stein can put you on with a straight face..... is he maybe deadpanning it a little?
Just asking....... haven't seen it.

He was on in two segments. Last I checked, an economist from the WSJ was scolding him.

The phone rang, and I missed the last 30 seconds or so... if it was a put-on, it was a good one.

Oh... and according to Glenn, the "tax cuts fail" argument was from an editorial that Ben sent in to the NYT.

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Well, I tried, upthread, with an O/T about Bibi....
No nibbles.

re: #71 CyanSnowHawk

More dramatic exits!

re: #63 littleoldlady
Where are the rotating headers going?
I have been working so much, I missed that.

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I kept waiting for the monkeys to come flyin' out of the castle.....

re: #58 HoosierHoops

It's still not fair to portray an entire people as pricks...whoever the serbs are..Let's stick to calling Canadians pricks or dutch people..
I'm sure you've probably had a bad experience with them..
But it just isn't fair...
/off soapbox
regards

I call the Germans who elected Hilter to power, PRICKS!>or worse. Or at least, a majority-prick nation.

So is Serbia, because its thugs were democratically elected and still enjoy overwhelming popular support.

Not every Serb is a butcher-supporting, genocide-facilitating bastard, of course! But their majority rules, and it's screwed up!

They killed over 11K Jews in WW2, about 7K Bosniacs or more, and about as many Kosovar Albanians. The guys at the top gave the order, but the soldiers/policemen/paramilitary people at the bottom executed them gladly and there is no repentance to this day.

"pricks" is a mild characterization. They would do it all again if they could.

re: #46 stevieray

I've been suspecting that Beck is a little off his rocker too.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Well, I have very little sympathy for the Serbs. They are a dysfunctional nation almost on par with the Palestinians.

I can see your point. When it comes to the Balkans, I have trouble feeling sympathy for any ethnic group as a whole.

On the other hand, groups are made up of individuals and not all of them support or condone the crimes committed by the likes of Slobo or Karadzic.

That being said, I think your tentative comparison to the Palestinians is an insightful one, even if the Palis, unlike the Serbs, are not really a nationality. The dysfunction would seem to be hatred of the Other above all things (Palis) or at least above most things (Serbs.) Not a recipe for great success.

re: #63 littleoldlady

^{_{I'm gonna miss the rotating headers :-(}}

_{^{What happened to the rotating headers? Too much stuff happens when I'm away at work!}}

re: #77 tradewind

Heh. At first I thought it was a spoof but I think it's real.

OT: Hugo's jealous of the US and wants in on the bank takeovers.

Chavez to Nationalize Banco de Venezuela

re: #61 Sharmuta

They burned our embassy- they get no quarter from me.

I understand.. I'm not picking a fight..
my circle of friends..our little entourage of 8 guys that grew up together..Well one of the dear dudes is from Iran..We've been friends for like forever..Well if somebody says iranians are pricks I'm going to have to face you down.. It's the gov't that are pricks..not the people..
F*ck.. if you want something burned down go to Detroit..Build the embassy there and see how long it stands..
/crap..now the whole state of Michigan hates me
//who cares?

re: #76 CapeCoddah

They disappeared!

/...I am NOT responsible.

re: #79 Killgore Trout

I've been suspecting that Beck is a little off his rocker too.

Studying liberals will do that to you...

Heh

re: #79 Killgore Trout

I've been suspecting that Beck is a little off his rocker too.

Speaking of people who failed their sanity check.

[Link: necrobamacon.blogspot.com...]

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Springtime for Nasrallah....

Hezbollah's Allah-Akbar Music Vid

Yes. Allah is great. You can tell by all of these scenes of death, destruction, and oppression.

What's up with the headers Charles? Inquiring Lizards Want To Know!

re: #85 littleoldlady
Thats what they all say!/
Maybe a techincal glitch?

Thanks to Charles and the LGF, I am fairly conversant on the issue of Kosovo and Bosnia. Yes, this trial will probably be delayed for ages, but this guy isn't going anywhere. He will be sentanced for life and probably die in prison. Damn my UPS's all just alarmed, T-storm is inbound....

I'm planning to move the revolving titles to a different place on the page, by the way...

re: #91 loflyer

Thanks to Charles and the LGF, I am fairly conversant on the issue of Kosovo and Bosnia. Yes, this trial will probably be delayed for ages, but this guy isn't going anywhere. He will be sentanced for life and probably die in prison. Damn my UPS's all just alarmed, T-storm is inbound....

good luck loflyer!

re: #32 Sharmuta

The man's a mass murderer. His countrymen burned our embassy, rioted in the streets that he would face justice, and beat up on their neighbors. They've earned their reputation in my book.

"Serbs are pricks."
And Americans are fat.

re: #84 HoosierHoops

I understand.. I'm not picking a fight..
my circle of friends..our little entourage of 8 guys that grew up together..Well one of the dear dudes is from Iran..We've been friends for like forever..Well if somebody says iranians are pricks I'm going to have to face you down.. It's the gov't that are pricks..not the people..
F*ck.. if you want something burned down go to Detroit..Build the embassy there and see how long it stands..
/crap..now the whole state of Michigan hates me
//who cares?

Iran's government is not democratically elected-it's a theocracy, and as such, not representative of the majority of Iranians.

The same cannot be said about Serbia.

re: #87 The Other Les

Speaking of people who failed their sanity check.

[Link: necrobamacon.blogspot.com...]

The blog title alone is gold plated awesome. Necrobamacon, classic.

re: #92 Charles
Whew! Scared us there for a minute, Charles!

re: #97 CapeCoddah

Whew! Scared us there for a minute, Charles!

If he doesn't do things like that, whole minutes can go by where we don't complain about anything.

re: #98 CyanSnowHawk

If he doesn't do things like that, whole minutes can go by where we don't complain about anything.

That's what makes Little Green Footballs what it is.

re: #98 CyanSnowHawk

LOL

Karadzic Defiant in Court

Did the world expect him to lay down and spread his legs for the corrupt International Court of Justice? This "genocide" charge sounds like BS to this old soldier and I happen to support the Serbian people.

re: #95 medaura18586

Iran's government is not democratically elected-it's a theocracy, and as such, not representative of the majority of Iranians.

The same cannot be said about Serbia.

i got 2 words for you.. Bill Clinton
anymore generalizations we need to discuss?

re: #94 wolfie

Would you be as offended if I called the saudis pricks, or would I get a pass?

re: #103 Sharmuta

Would you be as offended if I called the saudis pricks, or would I get a pass?

An award.

re: #88 Racer X

I prefer this video on Nasrallah.

re: #66 seekeroftruth

I hope the bastard is lying about that one. The Clintonistas are sleazy, but I'd have to take their word (gasp) over Karadzic's.

OK, So, since we have reached 100 posts, Here is an e-mail a client sent me today. Pretty funny. The last line asserts the story's truthfulness, but, one never knows wether this stuff is true or not:

On July 20, 1969, as commander of the Apollo 11 Lunar module,
Neil Armstrong was the first person to set foot on the moon.

His first words after stepping on the moon, 'that's one small step
for man, one giant leap for mankind,' were televised to earth
and heard by millions.

But just before he re-entered the lander, he made the enigmatic
remark 'good luck, Mr. Gorsky .'

Many people at NASA though it was a casual remark concerning
some rival Soviet cosmonaut. However, upon checking, there was
no Gorsky in either the Russian or American space programs.

Over the years many people questioned Armstrong as to what
the 'good luck, Mr. Gorsky 'statement meant, but Armstrong always
just smiled.

On July 5, 1995, in Tampa bay , Florida , while answering questions
following a speech, a reporter brought up the 26-year-old question
to Armstrong .

This time he finally responded. Mr. Gorsky had died, so Neil Armstrong
felt he could answer the question.

In 1938 when he was a kid in a small Midwest town , he was playing
baseball with a friend in the back yard. His friend hit the ball,
which landed in his neighbour's yard by the bedroom windows.

His neighbours were Mr. and Mrs. Gorsky. As he leaned down to pick
up the ball, young Armstrong heard Mrs. Gorsky shouting at Mr.
Gorsky .'Sex! You want sex?!

You'll get sex when the kid next door walks on the moon!'

True story.

re: #95 medaura18586

Iran's government is not democratically elected-it's a theocracy, and as such, not representative of the majority of Iranians.

The same cannot be said about Serbia.

We had a Christian Iranian working for us for like 25 years. Loved him for the first 20, then he got an attitude during his last five years, and management forced him to retire. He was totally Americanized(TM) and his wife was running a successful child care center so he was living the good life. He would still be working with us if he hadn't become so unhelpful.

re: #94 wolfie

"Serbs are pricks."
And Americans are fat.

Am not.

Just an observation, but for the second straight night on O'Reilly I heard the Democrat hack use the term hate website, without identifying them of course.

I smell talking points.

ot

Somewhere in Iran a new bridge was built.

re: #107 CapeCoddah

The version I heard was with regards to oral sex (blow job).

re: #106 wolfie
That must be one helluva gasp. I would not trust either Clinton to tell me what color the sky is on a clear sunny day.

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

Bill Clinton was there?

re: #107 CapeCoddah

LOL! Glad I wasn't drinking! I loved the video of an elderly "Buzz Aldrin" decking a conspiracy heckler....

re: #111 justdanny

ot

Somewhere in Iran a new bridge was built.

Somewhere a mullah got a kickback.

re: #115 loflyer
Missed that one!

re: #117 CapeCoddah

Missed that one!

Give me five minutes....

re: #111 justdanny

ot

Somewhere in Iran a new bridge was built.

Hope their bombs and missiles work as well.

re: #108 loflyer

He would still be working with us if he hadn't become so unhelpful.

Describe "unhelpful".

He turned into a prick?

;-)

re: #116 The Other Les
The only kickback a mullah deserves is that of a pissy mule.

re: #111 justdanny

ot

Somewhere in Iran a new bridge was built.

LOL! That looks more like the PA Turnpike!

re: #109 debutaunt

Am not.

of course you are not debutaunt..
I'll bet you eat well, run and enjoy life...don't smoke ciggies and look really good..congrads..
did you know Americans are pricks? Did that offend you?
/sarc off

// keep healthy friend

re: #107 CapeCoddah

False according to Snopes. Funny though

re: #111 justdanny

ot

Somewhere in Iran a new bridge was built.

Scratch that one from the target list......

re: #118 loflyer

Give me five minutes....

Here it comes!

re: #102 HoosierHoops

i got 2 words for you.. Bill Clinton
anymore generalizations we need to discuss?

That's the stupidest thing I ever heard today!

And what would Bill's election say about the majority of Americans should generalizations be valid? Also, not to burst your bubble, but there have been far worse presidents for the US, some of them Repiblican no less. FDR and Nixton come up as bipartisan examples.

Did the US invade, annex, and ethnically cleanse Canada during Clinton's administration? If, like last time I checked, the appropriate answer would be "no", then I cannot generalize to the majority of Americans being butcher-sympathizing freaks and pricks.

Only a minority, represented here by the disgusting poster Maximus, and perhaps you (?) deserves such label.

Also, as a side note, Serbia has much higher turnout than America over elections.

No Joke. Democrats are laughing at you. They want to see you mired in misery. They want the price of gas to go to $10 before they act to bring prices down. Actually, they wouldn't lift a finger even if that happened.

Give 'em a finger.

Vote 'em out of office.

re: #124 Neo Con since 9-11

I dont doubt it, which accounts for my disclaimer. This client sends me so much stuff, I would spend all day, every day researching his sources. So, I add the disclaimer when I pass them on!

re: #114 CapeCoddah

Bill Clinton was there?

Heh, no, but this is the version that I recall hearing:

When Apollo mission astronaut Neil Armstrong first walked on the moon, he not only gave his famous "one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind" statement, but followed it by several remarks--[mostly the] usual COM traffic between him, the other astronauts, and mission control. Before he re- entered the lander, he made the enigmatic remark, "Good luck, Mr. Gorsky."

Many people at NASA thought it was a casual remark concerning some rival Soviet cosmonaut. However, upon checking, there was no Gorsky in either the Russian or American space programs.

Over the years, many people have question [Armstrong] as to what the "Good luck, Mr. Gorsky" statement meant. On July 5, in Tampa Bay, Florida, while answering questions following a speech, a reporter brought up the 26-year-old question to Armstrong. He finally responded. It seems that Mr. Gorsky had died and so Armstrong felt he could answer the question.

When he was a kid, Neil was playing baseball with his brother in the back yard. His brother hit a fly ball which landed in front of his neighbors' bedroom window. The neighbors were Mr. and Mrs. Gorsky. As he leaned down to pick up the ball, he heard Mrs. Gorsky shouting at Mr. Gorsky, "Oral sex? Oral sex you want? You'll get oral sex when the kid next door walks on the moon!"

This is what I found at Snopes:

Any doubts about the veracity of this legend are laid to rest by the NASA transcripts of the Apollo 11 mission, which record no such statement having been made by Armstrong. Armstrong himself said in late 1995 that he first heard the anecdote delivered as a joke by comedian Buddy Hackett in California.

re: #102 HoosierHoops

i got 2 words for you.. Bill Clinton
anymore generalizations we need to discuss?

That's the stupidest thing I ever heard today!
Well hopefully i made the top ten..
I just hate generalizations...
/we're not fighting are we?

I remember Saddam Hussein being defiant in court too.
Didn't help him there, did it?

re: #120 Racer X

Describe "unhelpful".

He turned into a prick?

;-)

He had knowledge of legacy mainframe systems, and refused to help because his job description was now a DB programmer. I help on lots of stuff that is not in my job description. It's called professionalism. Finally management canned him....

re: #101 Maximu§

Karadzic Defiant in Court

Did the world expect him to lay down and spread his legs for the corrupt International Court of Justice? This "genocide" charge sounds like BS to this old soldier and I happen to support the Serbian people.

Only to down dings for this vile comment so far? Does it say anything about the confusion (or worse) on this thread? ... taps fingers... waits...

re: #132 looking closely

I remember Saddam Hussein being defiant in court too.
Didn't help him there, did it?

He walked out of court live. It was the gallows that got him!

re: #126 loflyer

LOL, Good stuff, thanks Lo, I had heard that, but never saw the vid. He should have hit him twice!

re: #103 Sharmuta

Would you be as offended if I called the saudis pricks, or would I get a pass?

To be honest, I wouldn't be offended, although maybe I should be.
I think I'd give you a pass because I've never actually known a Saudi, and I suppose that personal experience colors my reaction.

re: #131 HoosierHoops

not fighting at all. Though I bet you dislike some generalizations more than others... the prime example would be pointing the finger at the actions of a "Christian" state and/or its citizens... and generalizing from the political climate of such nation to the prevailing culture/mentality of its citizenry...

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Springtime for Nasrallah....

Hezbollah's Allah-Akbar Music Vid

"K-T" -

TO: "Sheikh" Nasrallah

1. Saw your Video - Congratulations for having a Sound Track That Didn't Sound Like BELLY DANCING!

2. Let the Word Go Forth From This Time and Place, THAT - If you start another WAR - expect the following:

a. LEBANON - Up to the Southern Bank of the Litani SHALL Permanently become territory of Eretz Yisroel.

b. For starting that WAR - YE SHALL BE A SHAHID - Hanging Upside Down From Your Ankles in BEIRUT a-la- BENITO (Finito) Mussolini for losing the land. POOP HAPPENS!

-S-

re: #130 Slumbering Behemoth
I believe you SB, but thanks for the other version!

re: #101 Maximu§

Karadzic Defiant in Court

Did the world expect him to lay down and spread his legs for the corrupt International Court of Justice? This "genocide" charge sounds like BS to this old soldier and I happen to support the Serbian people.

The charges are well-documented, and Karadzic is a mass murderer by anyone's definition. Radovan Karadzic:

Karadzic is accused of personal and command responsibility for numerous war crimes committed against non-Serbs, in his roles as Supreme Commander of the Bosnian Serb armed forces and President of the National Security Council of the Republika Srpska. He is accused of being responsible for the deaths of more than 7500 muslims. Under his direction and command, Bosnian Serb forces initiated the Siege of Sarajevo and carried out numerous massacres across Bosnia. Tens of thousands of non-Serbs were killed, hundreds of thousands were driven from their homes and thousands more were imprisoned in concentration camps where many died. He is accused of ordering the Srebrenica massacre in 1995, directing Bosnian Serb forces to "create an unbearable situation of total insecurity with no hope of further survival of life" in the UN safe area. In addition, he is accused of ordering that United Nations personnel be taken hostage in May-June 1995.

re: #136 CapeCoddah

LOL, Good stuff, thanks Lo, I had heard that, but never saw the vid. He should have hit him twice!

I think he did the job with just one blow. He was probably 75 or older. That gives me some hope for the future!

re: #113 CapeCoddah

That must be one helluva gasp. I would not trust either Clinton to tell me what color the sky is on a clear sunny day.

Yeah. That's a toughie. Trust a mass murderer? Trust a Clinton?

Come to think of it, since the story in no way exonerates K of his crimes and therefore is not purely self-serving, and since the Clintons are the greatest of liars,..............I might have to go with the butcher.

My best friend in high school was at least part Serbian. Blame Karadzic, Milosevic, and al those types. People are still just people.

re: #141 Charles

Charles -

Karadzic IS a "Plick" - Luckily, the US has chosen NOT to make him "OUR PLICK." That is all for now.

-S-

re: #137 wolfie

Yes- I think in all fairness you ought to be equally offended. (I have met a Saudi- but it was far from a typical experience.) But thank you for answering me honestly that I'd get a pass on broad brush strokes for one group but not another.

re: #144 RememberSekhmet?

My best friend in high school was at least part Serbian. Blame Karadzic, Milosevic, and al those types. People are still just people.

Charles had some good threads and links to informative stories on the situation. I was clueless before I read them....

re: #138 medaura18586

not fighting at all. Though I bet you dislike some generalizations more than others... the prime example would be pointing the finger at the actions of a "Christian" state and/or its citizens... and generalizing from the political climate of such nation to the prevailing culture/mentality of its citizenry...

Thats good..But i still don't understand..What's a christain state?
I'm Catholic..hundreds of years ago we would just torture you or burn you at the stake..
so catholics are pricks?
/ if you were going all joan of arc on me..then yup..you are a prick..

re: #142 loflyer
One was great, but that disrespectful little SOB should have gotten one more for good measure. Hope Buzz did not get in trouble for that!

re: #142 loflyer

I think he did the job with just one blow. He was probably 75 or older. That gives me some hope for the future!

Too bad it only took the one shot to knock that moonbat on his ass, I'd have liked to see him pop him again!

re: #143 wolfie

Yeah. That's a toughie. Trust a mass murderer? Trust a Clinton?

Come to think of it, since the story in no way exonerates K of his crimes and therefore is not purely self-serving, and since the Clintons are the greatest of liars,..............I might have to go with the butcher.

That's how I was reading it too.

re: #149 CapeCoddah

One was great, but that disrespectful little SOB should have gotten one more for good measure. Hope Buzz did not get in trouble for that!

The police refused to investigate the matter. They witnessed the affair and deemed it justifiable!

re: #128 lawhawk

WOW!

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

The version I heard was with regards to oral sex (blow job).

Gee! Thanks for the explanation, I wouldn't have known what you meant otherwise.

re: #152 loflyer
Well, that is a very good thing. Too bad they did not arrest the Moonbat for harrassment of an elderly person.

re: #128 lawhawk

Would that I could give more updings. Is it in the spinoffs?

re: #156 Noam Sayin'

Would that I could give more updings. Is it in the spinoffs?

I don't know why I don't check these things before I ask such stupid questions.

re: #157 Noam Sayin'

Well, did you check to see? Is it in the spin-offs?

re: #148 HoosierHoops

Thats good..But i still don't understand..What's a christain state?
I'm Catholic..hundreds of years ago we would just torture you or burn you at the stake..
so catholics are pricks?
/ if you were going all joan of arc on me..then yup..you are a prick..

The massacres in the Balkans are not hundreds of years old (well, not ONLY that old)... The last outburst of mass killings/rapes/expulsions happened less than a decade ago, and their perpetrators still enjoy great popular support in Serbia.

There are catholic pricks, but just there are pricks of every demographic cross section. No one is saying that all Catholics are pricks. Not all Catholic were pricks even during the Inquisition, so drop the straw man.

We can, however, be justified in saying, that inferring from the political climate in Serbia, which is representative of its electorate since their political system is pretty democratic, the majority of Serbian citizens need to get their heads checked. How vast a majority? I can't tell you, but the names and affiliations of their political parties together with the percentage of the popular vote they received, could give you a fairly reasonable picture.

re: #154 jcw46

Gee! Thanks for the explanation, I wouldn't have known what you meant otherwise.

Well, there are two distinctly different categories of oral sex, you know.

/or are you just one of those selfish bastards that give the rest of us guys a bad name?
//

re: #158 wolfie

I don't know why I don't check these thing before I ask such stupid questions!

re: #158 wolfie

Well, did you check to see? Is it in the spin-offs?

Yep. It's in the spinoffs. Another chance to give that post an up-ding.

re: #155 CapeCoddah

Well, that is a very good thing. Too bad they did not arrest the Moonbat for harrassment of an elderly person.

I don't think there is any law against that. Free speech civil rights declare you can offend anyone, but be prepared for the consequences. Go Buzz!

The moon landing was a hoax, it was nothing controlled demolitions set off by the man on the grassy knoll to distract us from the neo-con trilateral commission's spraying chemtrails while we watched it on TV to control our brain waves so the aliens can probe us, to make us all slaves of the Zionist conspiracy to control the monetary supply and keeps us all down!

re: #164 jcm

do I need a

/ ?

re: #164 jcm

You left out fluoridation of the water?

re: #164 jcm

Okay, but how does that help the turtles?

re: #164 jcm

You forgot to blame George W. Bush.

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, but how does that help the turtles?

Can we also shave the whales?

re: #164 jcm

The moon landing was a hoax, it was nothing controlled demolitions set off by the man on the grassy knoll to distract us from the neo-con trilateral commission's spraying chemtrails while we watched it on TV to control our brain waves so the aliens can probe us, to make us all slaves of the Zionist conspiracy to control the monetary supply, keep us all down, and make Bush and his Texas oil buddies rich!

You forgot something. The main motive!

re: #168 Macker

Bush is a puppet......Rove is responsible.

re: #165 jcm

do I need a

/ ?

Is your "/ " made out of tin foil? Then I'd say yes, you need a "/".

/

re: #148 HoosierHoops

Thats good..But i still don't understand..What's a christain state?
I'm Catholic..hundreds of years ago we would just torture you or burn you at the stake..
so catholics are pricks?
/ if you were going all joan of arc on me..then yup..you are a prick..

"H-H" -

That WAS Hundreds of Years Ago. Since then, the various confessions of the Christian Religion have - LARGELY - reconciled on a day to day basis, with respectful disagreements on matters of doctrine. More or less, we have become the "Faith of the Navy Chaplains", Christian and Jewish, who gave what they could to shipmates, so shipmates could survive. Being Jewish, myself - I describe it from my old UAW Experience, SAME UNION, DIFFERENT LOCAL!

-S-

It's soooo hard to keep it all straight!

WAAAAAH!

;-P

re: #164 jcm

The moon landing was a hoax, it was nothing controlled demolitions set off by the man on the grassy knoll to distract us from the neo-con trilateral commission's spraying chemtrails while we watched it on TV to control our brain waves so the aliens can probe us, to make us all slaves of the Zionist conspiracy to control the monetary supply and keeps us all down!

At the time, 1970, the conspiracists were claiming it had all been faked and filmed at the huge dirigible hanger at Moffet field. That gained little traction and I believe Hollywood produced a film portraying a moon or mars landing hoax, somewhere around '73.

re: #171 BignJames

Bush is a puppet......Rove is responsible.

That's Darth Rove to you. /and don't you forget it.

re: #159 medaura18586

re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
Just joshing around although from the context it seemed pretty obvious that the "mrs" was going to do the "mr". As to selfish bastards; my experience has been that the selfishness can be on both sides of the bed.

As to the Serbians and war crimes; they all pretty much feel justified in their attitude.
Although no group can be justified for "ethnic cleansing", the serbs were invaded by the Ottoman turks and were given a very rough time of it.

In that area of the world when they hate, they hate real good and for a long, long time!

re: #175 loflyer

Capricorn One. '78?

re: #172 stevieray

Is your "/ " made out of tin foil? Then I'd say yes, you need a "/".

/

Shhhhhh! It's secret.

Ben Stein looks too much like Henry Mitchell, Dennis the Menace's dad in that late 50's TV show.
Recent statements indicate he's really Beaver Cleaver.

re: #169 The Other Les

The whales should be nuked.

re: #175 loflyer

At the time, 1970, the conspiracists were claiming it had all been faked and filmed at the huge dirigible hanger at Moffet field. That gained little traction and I believe Hollywood produced a film portraying a moon or mars landing hoax, somewhere around '73.

Dang, I thought you were referring to the movie with OJ in it: Capricorn One.

re: #159 medaura18586

ok..I don't want to argue..and really never have..I can't drop the straw man cause i don't know what the effen a straw man is..
I've only been here about 6 weeks...I HATE GENERALIZATIONS about people..period dude or dudette..that's all i'm saying...
My godfather is black..and i respect him more than any man in the world..you call blacks pricks.. I will want to knock you out.. it's not fair! can you understand that at least?
Guess what? USA is playing Turkey in Basketball!
GO USA!
BBL

re: #175 loflyer

I think O.J. Simpson was in that movie.

re: #175 loflyer

At the time, 1970, the conspiracists were claiming it had all been faked and filmed at the huge dirigible hanger at Moffet field. That gained little traction and I believe Hollywood produced a film portraying a moon or mars landing hoax, somewhere around '73.

Capricorn One was the Movie.

re: #178 BignJames

Capricorn One. '78?

That was it....I never saw it because I thought they were FOS.....

re: #164 jcm

The moon landing was a hoax, it was nothing controlled demolitions set off by the man on the grassy knoll to distract us from the neo-con trilateral commission's spraying chemtrails while we watched it on TV to control our brain waves so the aliens can probe us, to make us all slaves of the Zionist conspiracy to control the monetary supply and keeps us all down!

WHEW! Glad you cleared that up for us.

re: #173 Dr. Shalit

"H-H" -

That WAS Hundreds of Years Ago. Since then, the various confessions of the Christian Religion have - LARGELY - reconciled on a day to day basis, with respectful disagreements on matters of doctrine. More or less, we have become the "Faith of the Navy Chaplains", Christian and Jewish, who gave what they could to shipmates, so shipmates could survive. Being Jewish, myself - I describe it from my old UAW Experience, SAME UNION, DIFFERENT LOCAL!

-S-

I thought the Jews were still using the beta test version.

re: #180 Capitalist Tool

Ben Stein looks too much like Henry Mitchell, Dennis the Menace's dad in that late 50's TV show.
Recent statements indicate he's really Beaver Cleaver.

Are you watching the Glenn Beck replay?

re: #175 loflyer

At the time, 1970, the conspiracists were claiming it had all been faked and filmed at the huge dirigible hanger at Moffet field. That gained little traction and I believe Hollywood produced a film portraying a moon or mars landing hoax, somewhere around '73.

Mars, I think. Capricorn Seven. Or was it Capricorn Six? I don't remember the name, but I do remember that it was a pretty bad movie. So bad I broke up with my boyfriend right after it.

Seemed like a good reason at the time.

re: #177 jcw46

re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
Just joshing around although from the context it seemed pretty obvious that the "mrs" was going to do the "mr". As to selfish bastards; my experience has been that the selfishness can be on both sides of the bed.

As to the Serbians and war crimes; they all pretty much feel justified in their attitude.
Although no group can be justified for "ethnic cleansing", the serbs were invaded by the Ottoman turks and were given a very rough time of it.

In that area of the world when they hate, they hate real good and for a long, long time!

Uh, I think I lost you there...

Did Serbs ethnically cleanse their Ottoman Turk occupiers out of their lands, or did they attack indigenous neighboring populations in the Balkans, like the Croats, Sloevenes, Bosniacs, and Albanians?

Please enlighten me!

re: #177 jcw46

Just joshing around...

As was I, thus the sarc tagging. You're right about that selfishness thing as well.

re: #188 stevieray

Are you watching the Glenn Beck replay?

Never heard of it.
Seldom turn on my tv, except for football season.

re: #185 loflyer

That was it....I never saw it because I thought they were FOS.....

"lo" -

THEY WERE "Full of Themselves" - They had a PROBLEM, a BIG one - The Decadent USA beat the Spartan USSR - BIG TIME - to the MOON!

-S-

re: #189 wolfie

Mars, I think. Capricorn Seven. Or was it Capricorn Six? I don't remember the name, but I do remember that it was a pretty bad movie. So bad I broke up with my boyfriend right after it.

Seemed like a good reason at the time.

I am sure it was! The important question is are you happy now?

re: #186 saberry0530

WHEW! Glad you cleared that up for us.

Somebody has to tell the troof!

re: #174 jcm

It's soooo hard to keep it all straight!

WAAAAAH!

;-P

... and you forgot the gold standard as well.

Remedial Happytime Re-education Camp for you!

Ben Stein?
Ben Stein?

re: #196 stevieray

... and you forgot the gold standard as well.

Remedial Happytime Re-education Camp for you!

Do I get happy pills?

re: #182 HoosierHoops

ok..I don't want to argue..and really never have..I can't drop the straw man cause i don't know what the effen a straw man is..
I've only been here about 6 weeks...I HATE GENERALIZATIONS about people..period dude or dudette..that's all i'm saying...
My godfather is black..and i respect him more than any man in the world..you call blacks pricks.. I will want to knock you out.. it's not fair! can you understand that at least?
Guess what? USA is playing Turkey in Basketball!
GO USA!
BBL

I think I'll drop this with you. As for a straw man, I will tell you exactly what it is: attributing me positions I have never expressed so you can knock them down, while presenting to have addressed my argument.

For example, I never said blacks are pricks.

Nor did I say Catholics are pricks because their religious ancestors burned people alive centuries ago.

Nor did I say that all Serbs are pricks, or whatever.

I merely said that the cultural makeup of a nation can be inferred by its politics. Attacking that statement does not make you "against generalizations" but rather against critical thinking and rational analysis.

G'nite!

I'd just like to remind everyone that it was Serbs who burned our embassy- that's an act of war. I can't imagine any other group attacking our embassy getting a pass. Why are the Serbs different?

pretending*

Karadzic in court is not a cut and dried issue for two reasons.

1. The US for good reason does not recognize the jurisdiction of the follow on International Court in the Hague that just indicted the High Thug of Sudan. We would probably be happier if some local authority had performed the rituals of justice on Karadzic back in the Balkans. Ideally the same way Ceaucesco was disposed of.

3. We have over decades fallen into the policy of giving many Jefes from the 3rd World a safe exit to a comfortable or at least safe retirement. Examples include Batista, FW de Klerk, Ian Smith, Shah Pahlevi, Baby Doc, and Emperor Bokassa. The policy was always questionable but defended as likely to reduce unnecessary bloodshed if dictators can be induced to go quietly. Why this policy doesn't apply in Europe can be questioned. It smacks of inverse racism.

re: #200 Sharmuta

I'd just like to remind everyone that it was Serbs who burned our embassy- that's an act of war. I can't imagine any other group attacking our embassy getting a pass. Why are the Serbs different?

Why their our noble Christian bretheren in a crusade against the ghosts of the barbarous false-god-worshipping Ottoman Turks, reincarnated in Bosniacs and Albanians! They are fighting the good fight to preserve Western Judeo-Christian Civilization...

re: #47 Sharmuta

I'm sure there are some Serbs who are decent people, but for the most part, what I've seen and what I've learned has left a very bad taste in my mouth concerning this group.

The Serbs have been living in a very tough part of the world since the Ottoman Turk invasion of the fourteenth century. They, and their Croat, Greek, and Albanian neighbors learned a lot of bad habits from the Ottomans, mainly Islamic-style tribalism.

There are no good guys in that part of the world.

re: #190 medaura18586

"By seeking to eliminate a part of the Bosnian Muslims [Bosniaks], the Bosnian Serb forces committed genocide. They targeted for extinction the forty thousand Bosnian Muslims living in Srebrenica, a group which was emblematic of the Bosnian Muslims in general. They stripped all the male Muslim prisoners, military and civilian, elderly and young, of their personal belongings and identification, and deliberately and methodically killed them solely on the basis of their identity."

Srebrenica Massacre

"Moljević assessed the circumstances in the following manner: One must take the opportunity of the war conditions and at a suitable moment take hold of the territory marked on the map, cleanse [očistiti] it before anybody notices and with strong battalions occupy the key places (...) and the territory surrounding these cities, freed of non-Serb elements. The guilty must be promptly punished and the others deported - the Croats to Croatia, the Muslims to Turkey or perhaps Albania - while the vacated territory is settled with Serb refugees now located in Serbia."

Ethnic cleansing.

re: #202 lifeofthemind

Wait- so because other thugs got off, this one should?

re: #193 Dr. Shalit

"lo" -

THEY WERE "Full of Themselves" - They had a PROBLEM, a BIG one - The Decadent USA beat the Spartan USSR - BIG TIME - to the MOON!

-S-

I have done a lot of informal research on the Soviet projects for a moon landing. Like the Americans the Soviets opted for a lunar rendezvous using a "super booster" like the American Saturn V. Soviet space exploration was placed in the hands of the military who saw no military reason to land on the moon. The result was the US outspent the Soviets five to one on space exploration, and kicked Soviet ass. PS, We had some super engineers.....

re: #194 loflyer

I am sure it was! The important question is are you happy now?

Indeed I am!
As I recall, the guy was a crazed environmentalist ,deeply (and perpetually) concerned about preservatives in food and chemicals in our drinking water.
Need I add that he was nevertheless quite fond of ingesting chemical subtances directly?!
Those here old enough will recognize the type!

re: #204 Mardukhai

So..... they burned our embassy and slaughtered their neighbors because the Turk were there once upon a time? At what point do we hold them accountable for their actions and not make excuses for them?

Q: What do they call the Toyota Landcruiser in Iraq?

In Iraq, every type of automobile has a name. There is the Dolphin (Mercedes C class, named for the tail fins), the phantom (Mercedes convertible, named for the black one that Uday, Saddam’s son, used to drive at high speeds throughout Baghdad, “like a phantom”), the octopus (Mitsubishi, named after what the trademark looks like to Iraqis), and, my old car when I lived here, the butterfly (Daewoo Prince, named again after the trademark). To go to the Kurdish village where my father in law ran a school in his younger years, however, we needed a larger car, a huge one capable of ferrying my entire wife’s family and me (a total of six people) with a large rear load to hold all of the bags. Thus we rented the Toyota Landcruiser, known in Iraq as the Monica (as in Lewinsky).

Cruel as it is, this has rapidly become the staple name for the Landcruiser, replacing the more accurate if more banal term “Landcrooz” that was common earlier, when the Ba’ath used them to ferry around their dreaded security services.

Heh.

Interesting article too. High hopes and crashing lows.

#141 Charles

Tens of thousands of non-Serbs were killed, hundreds of thousands were driven from their homes and thousands more .....

Thats called War Charles and I'd bet my next check that the Muslims started it. Your good website proves that everyday. Islam is the aggressor.

I'm no expert in that region, but I have a strong gut feeling the Serb's were doing to the non-Serb's (Muslims), exactly what the Muslims had in store for them. Its a brutal region with a brutal history.

Also, haven't we heard similar "Genocide" claims from the International World Court against Israel regarding the Palestinians?

re: #202 lifeofthemind

Karadzic in court is not a cut and dried issue for two reasons.

1. The US for good reason does not recognize the jurisdiction of the follow on International Court in the Hague that just indicted the High Thug of Sudan. We would probably be happier if some local authority had performed the rituals of justice on Karadzic back in the Balkans. Ideally the same way Ceaucesco was disposed of.

3. We have over decades fallen into the policy of giving many Jefes from the 3rd World a safe exit to a comfortable or at least safe retirement. Examples include Batista, FW de Klerk, Ian Smith, Shah Pahlevi, Baby Doc, and Emperor Bokassa. The policy was always questionable but defended as likely to reduce unnecessary bloodshed if dictators can be induced to go quietly. Why this policy doesn't apply in Europe can be questioned. It smacks of inverse racism.

WHAT HAPPENED TO TWO? What! Are you messing with us? or what? Where's the effing TWO? Doggone it if you're going to enumerate items then DON'T SKIP NUMBERS!

/screws head back onto neck and resumes sanity mode

re: #203 medaura18586

Why their our noble Christian bretheren in a crusade against the ghosts of the barbarous false-god-worshipping Ottoman Turks, reincarnated in Bosniacs and Albanians! They are fighting the good fight to preserve Western Judeo-Christian Civilization...

Nonsense.
Serb leaders just fanned the flames of ancient hatred in that area to enhance their own power, just like Hitler did and every other tin pot dictator ever has and still does. just look at Hugo Chavez- he does the same thing.

If you're making excuses for what the Serbs did, you've gone wrong in my book.
There is no excuse for that stuff.
that is the way the world works, however, and the Serbs were just one of the more recent examples of it.

re: #208 wolfie
Kinda like "Cheetos are bad for you, Please pass the smack?"

$0.02 on the lively debate here:
to H-H: fair's got nothing to do with it, but it could be a misunderstanding of the meaning of words. If I may interpret for Sharmuta, the way he used the word "pricks" is rather specific, and it is a perfectly good usage to say that, say, black are not pricks while Serbs are, and maybe Ossetians are too. If you like, one can say that their popular will exhibits a lot of supremacist, aggressive notions that we would regard prick-like.
to Sharmuta: this is the kind of people that remain this side of the border of jihad after so many centuries. Vlad the Impaler was a sadistic prick but kept jihad at bay. And when the US and Europe were throwing them under the bus again, they elected a prick like Miloshevic who let pricks like Karadzic do dirty work. And they burned our embassy because we gave away a part of their land to Dar al Islam.

re: #198 jcm

Do I get happy pills?

Of course! In Obama's America we get all the pills we want for free!

re: #204 Mardukhai

That ding down was a mistake. Meant to ding up. Sorry :(

re: #206 Sharmuta

Wait- so because other thugs got off, this one should?

I'd prefer it the other way around. Policy should be professionally executed, flexible enough to adapt but not giving the odor of being ad hoc and subject to political and theatrical manipulation. My argument was for dealing with the culprit on the spot. A good argument can be made that we should have just shot the Nazis rather than hold trials with the Soviets sitting in judgement as our equals over the Germans.

re: #207 loflyer

I have done a lot of informal research on the Soviet projects for a moon landing. Like the Americans the Soviets opted for a lunar rendezvous using a "super booster" like the American Saturn V. Soviet space exploration was placed in the hands of the military who saw no military reason to land on the moon. The result was the US outspent the Soviets five to one on space exploration, and kicked Soviet ass. PS, We had some super engineers.....

The early Russia Venus probes, like Venera-3 where pretty impressive, brute force engineering to over come the g-forces, temperatures and pressures. Venera-3 was the 3rd or 4th landing attempt and the first successful one.

The missions the US accomplished in the early 60's and the minimal computer power to accomplish those missions still amazes me.

re: #208 wolfie

Indeed I am!
As I recall, the guy was a crazed environmentalist ,deeply (and perpetually) concerned about preservatives in food and chemicals in our drinking water.
Need I add that he was nevertheless quite fond of ingesting chemical subtances directly?!
Those here old enough will recognize the type!

Glad you dropped him, and even happier that you grew from the experience..

re: #213 Capitalist Tool

I'm pretty sure that bit was sarcasm, without the /

re: #214 CapeCoddah

Kinda like "Cheetos are bad for you, Please pass the smack?"

You got it...and said it better than I ! Brevity is the soul of wit!

re: #199 medaura18586

Hey..it's a comercial..
listen..I don't know about straw men and i don't pick fights..
you called serbs pricks so why not blacks?
I just don't get it and it's ok..
I wish you well and going back to the game...
-the hoopster..

re: #213 Capitalist Tool

She was being sarcastic.

re: #222 wolfie
LOL, Gotta love hypocrite moonbats!

re: #200 Sharmuta

I'd just like to remind everyone that it was Serbs who burned our embassy- that's an act of war. I can't imagine any other group attacking our embassy getting a pass. Why are the Serbs different?

Act of war? Who hasn't attacked the US Embassy? It is almost a requirement to try it if you want your kid to get into a good American college.

I'm a man of many prejudices, but I know what they are and try not to let them influence me too very much. One thing that I have learned is not to judge a people by their elected leaders.

If I did, I'd have to conclude that the majority of MA folks are woman-drowning drunks, Congressional-page-molesting perverts, or homosexual whore-mongers.

Or that New Yorkers are lying harpies or smarmy a**hole Schumers.

Or that PA residents are slimy troop-hating gasbags.

Or that Califorinicators are ... well, I'm not even going there.

Not enough people pay attention to their leaders. We put up with crap from our elected representatives that we would never stand for from our spouses, pastors, Boy Scout troop leaders, dentists, bankers, etc.

Why do they get such a pass? Because they 'bring home the pork'?

re: #226 lifeofthemind

So- now were making excuses for burning our embassy?!

I sure hope this means we've thrown the Russians overboard in the next phase of space exploration.

Nine nations sign landmark lunar exploration agreement
[Link: space.newscientist.com...]

"ROUND up the usual suspects," barks the police captain in the movie Casablanca. Jim Green, NASA's chief of planetary sciences, was reminded of those words after nine nations signed a ground-breaking agreement on 29 July to cooperate over moon exploration. Unlike Casablanca, however, he couldn't do that. "Russia and the European Space Agency have heavy commitments. So we have teamed up with some emerging space nations," Green says.

The UK, Canada, India, France, Italy, Japan, South Korea and Germany will work with NASA on building and operating a network of sensor-stuffed robotic lunar probes that will monitor, measure and analyse the moon's surface and subsurface geology in unprecedented detail (New Scientist, 12 July, p 34)

The Russians have been creeping me out during the whole space station phase. When the shuttle visited the station recently the Russian computers mysteriously lost the ability to control oxygen levels. Another time the whole station lost stability. The latest revelation a few months ago was that the Russians were keeping at least one weapon on board.

re: #200 Sharmuta

I'd just like to remind everyone that it was Serbs who burned our embassy- that's an act of war. I can't imagine any other group attacking our embassy getting a pass. Why are the Serbs different?

Yeah so?

We bombed the s**t out of the Serb's power plants (something we didn't even do in Iraq), bombed bridges, bombed hospitals etc etc.....and than created an Islamic state right in their face.

Your surprised the Serbian mobs burned down our embassy? I'm not and I don't blame them. WE FUK'd UP! We stuck our nose where it did'nt belong!

re: #215 kuchuklambat

Please check your sexist assumptions in at the door.

Not lurking. Just not a lot to add. The depravity of humanity makes me sad. Can't imagine murdering people because they didn't go to my church.

Gosh, sounds a little "Pollyanish".

"DIE HERITICS!"

re: #215 kuchuklambat

And they burned our embassy because we gave away a part of their land to Dar al Islam.

I know very little about the history of that area, but I thought that Kosovo (sp?) broke away it self, rather than being "given away" by the U.S.

As far as the folks who burnt our embassy are concerned: Fuck 'em, they're pricks!

re: #207 loflyer

I have done a lot of informal research on the Soviet projects for a moon landing. Like the Americans the Soviets opted for a lunar rendezvous using a "super booster" like the American Saturn V. Soviet space exploration was placed in the hands of the military who saw no military reason to land on the moon. The result was the US outspent the Soviets five to one on space exploration, and kicked Soviet ass. PS, We had some super engineers.....

"lo" -

GOOD! And as I am an American with Ethnic Roots in the Old USSR/Russian Empire, GO America, Go Seversky (a/k/a Republic Aircraft, in the DAY), GO Sikorsky - Father of the Helicopter. All the result of the "October Revolution."

-S-

Holy sh*t! So we deserved to have our embassy burned because we "stuck our nose where it didn't belong" by trying to stop genocide.

pat buchannan would be proud of that type of argument.

re: #227 razorbacker
Actually, in reference to the Massachusetts General Court, you are not too far off! We have quite a diverse cadre of molesters, drunks, crooks and liars and perverts walking the halls of Beacon Hill.

re: #216 stevieray

Of course! In Obama's America we get all the pills we want for free!

Happy Happy Joy Joy!

re: #219 jcm

The early Russia Venus probes, like Venera-3 where pretty impressive, brute force engineering to over come the g-forces, temperatures and pressures. Venera-3 was the 3rd or 4th landing attempt and the first successful one.

The missions the US accomplished in the early 60's and the minimal computer power to accomplish those missions still amazes me.

The Venus probes were the high-point of the Soviet space exploration program. My understanding is that Gemini rendezvous computers only had 24 K memory, Apollo 48 K. Incredible!

Yugoslav wars (1991-2001)

The first of these conflicts, known as the Ten-Day War or "The War" in Slovenia, was initiated by the secession of Slovenia from the federation on 25 June 1991. The federal government ordered the federal Yugoslav People's Army to secure border crossings in Slovenia. Slovenian police and Territorial Defense blockaded barracks and roads, leading to standoffs and limited skirmishes around the republic. After several dozen deaths, the limited conflict was stopped through negotiation at Brioni on 9 July 1991, when Slovenia and Croatia agreed to a three-month moratorium on secession. The Federal army completely withdrew from Slovenia by 26 October 1991.

/and then things got ugly

re: #219 jcm

The early Russia Venus probes, like Venera-3 where pretty impressive, brute force engineering to over come the g-forces, temperatures and pressures. Venera-3 was the 3rd or 4th landing attempt and the first successful one.

The missions the US accomplished in the early 60's and the minimal computer power to accomplish those missions still amazes me.

The Soviet "Saturn V" was a complete flop, and that doomed their moon missions.

The booster used a staggering array of small(er) engines, because the Soviets could not match the power of the American engines, and they were working with a similar payload. The design was incredibly difficult to control (lining up thrust on five engines is more difficult than one, but try a couple dozen).

OTOH, the Soviets kept simple yet effective technologies, unlike the US space program which basically reinvents the wheel every so often. We budgeted our way out of the Saturn V, and replaced it with...nothing. Now, with the technology to actually achieve assembly in orbit for a Mars mission, etc., we lack a heavy booster to deliver the parts. And the Saturn V, designed and developed before the computer revolution, depended on blueprints that are now missing (budget cuts again).

re: #234 Dr. Shalit

"lo" -

GOOD! And as I am an American with Ethnic Roots in the Old USSR/Russian Empire, GO America, Go Seversky (a/k/a Republic Aircraft, in the DAY), GO Sikorsky - Father of the Helicopter. All the result of the "October Revolution."

-S-

The Soviets lost mare than they can imagine when they let Sikorsky immigrate.....

re: #235 Sharmuta

Holy sh*t! So we deserved to have our embassy burned because we "stuck our nose where it didn't belong" by trying to stop genocide.

pat buchannan would be proud of that type of argument.

Comparing me to Pat Buchanan? Thats a cheap shot...feel free to debate me when you can speak like an adult.

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey Sleepy B- I've been slowly learning about the region myself, but what I can tell you is allowing european ethnic nationalists to run rampant is never a good idea.

re: #242 Maximu§

Get better reading comprehension, and perhaps I will. I didn't compare you to buchannan, just your argument.

re: #231 Sharmuta
whoa still not sure what that was. i haven't in this discussion and still don't regard pricks as referring to body parts. is that what you meant? M mystified, but i'll check them at the door if i find them, to be sure.

re: #245 kuchuklambat

I'm not a "he".

re: #243 Sharmuta

The words "ethnic nationalists" = "Bad effing news" no matter what ethnicity.

re: #211 Maximu§

#141 Charles

Tens of thousands of non-Serbs were killed, hundreds of thousands were driven from their homes and thousands more .....

Thats called War Charles and I'd bet my next check that the Muslims started it. Your good website proves that everyday. Islam is the aggressor.

I'm no expert in that region, but I have a strong gut feeling the Serb's were doing to the non-Serb's (Muslims), exactly what the Muslims had in store for them. Its a brutal region with a brutal history.

Also, haven't we heard similar "Genocide" claims from the International World Court against Israel regarding the Palestinians?

Serbs beat the Muslims to it?
Serb actions were ok because that's war?
Surround a Muslim village of non combatants and murder everyone in it?
Intimidate a bunch of hapless Dutch/UN soldier/cowards into releasing all Moslems who've sought refuge with the UN troops and then marching the civilians out to their death isn't a war crime?

Fact is, all parties in that mess have kept eggin' each other on for generations, tellin' the same kinds of lies about each other that the Palis teach their kids about the Jews.
One can build a case against anybody with little effort. Deciding then to go in and murder a bunch of people on the basis of your own BS or for any other reason is just wrong. No matter how much land you expect to gain.

re: #247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And their history in europe is particularly troubling.

re: #209 Sharmuta

the Croat and Bosnian butchered this generations Serbs parents during ww2. all of this did not come out of the blue, plus the Muslims and Croats also did ethnic cleaning in this war as well. NO ONE HAD CLEAN HANDS but the Serbs lost the war so the winner Croats the justice.

Andersonville wasn't the only hell hole during the civil war almost as many sessch pow's died in the POW camp in Chicago but since the north won the war the camp director in Chicago did not get hung only the leader of Anderson got that fate.

the UTASHI were croate fascists who commited genoicde during the war and the grand mufti organized SS division from bosnian and albanian muslims.

re: #235 Sharmuta

Moral Equivalence: It's not just for lefties anymore.

re: #247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The words "ethnic nationalists" = "Bad effing news" no matter what ethnicity.

Are you talking about Rev Wright and Trinity Church?

re: #209 Sharmuta

So..... they burned our embassy and slaughtered their neighbors because the Turk were there once upon a time? At what point do we hold them accountable for their actions and not make excuses for them?

Karadzic and other Balkan butchers must now answer a strong case of genocide, murder, torture and other beastly war crimes. How anyone can ignore the evidence and excuse their conduct is beyond me - but then again, many people ignore and excuse Arab genocidal aims against the Jews of Israel, and that is also beyond me.
We live in a relative paradise here in North America, but let's remain mindful that we are all just one step out of the jungle.

re: #230 Maximu§

. WE FUK'd UP! We stuck our nose where it did'nt belong!

I agree with that part.

re: #238 loflyer

The Venus probes were the high-point of the Soviet space exploration program. My understanding is that Gemini rendezvous computers only had 24 K memory, Apollo 48 K. Incredible!

Hey! That was frikkin huge back then and programmers (good ones) could do a lot with it.

re: #230 Maximu§

Yeah so?

We bombed the s**t out of the Serb's power plants (something we didn't even do in Iraq), bombed bridges, bombed hospitals etc etc.....and than created an Islamic state right in their face.

Your surprised the Serbian mobs burned down our embassy? I'm not and I don't blame them. WE FUK'd UP! We stuck our nose where it did'nt belong!

Don't forget the train bombing. A civilian train, packed with commuters. We blew it up. Sort of like the Chinese Embassy. Oopsie. Just another Wesley Clark operation, following on the massive success of the Branch Davidians.

In the immortal words of Harry Tasker ".... they were all bad".

Another ad idea for McCain
1. Start with Obama's poster.

2. Blend through a montage of other images of dictators and radicals.

3. A scroll "We don't do it that way in America"

4. End with the a carved inscription quoting John Adams
     "A Government of Laws, and Not of Men."