Gah.

SOF for L³iberals.

Where are the fire hoops!?

Maybe they could really market to the older group by creating a HAMAS-camp that mirrors 'rock and roll' camp here. Sign up and get taught the fundeamentals from all your favourite terrorists, er, uh, resistance fighters!

WTF is wrong with people?! Who the hell romanticizes terrorist training camps?!

Hello Mullah, Hello Fatah,
Here I am at, Camp Intifada

Who are these people?

I long ago lost any respect for any academic degree or govt position relating to foreign policy. These folks are - to put it bluntly - jokes. Proof? The Foreign Policy mag should be a good start. Elementary reasoning at best.

I wonder if graduation consists of an Israeli missile meeting your car?

Is it me or do the designs on their t-shirts bear a striking resemblance to the Hezbollah logo?

Here's an interesting caption beneath a completely unrelated photo:

Touché: A Hamas spokesman said Tuesday that Barak’s comments were “stupid statements.”

Send your kids to this camp and watch how fast they blow up.

Hamas militants

Preferably known as "fodder."

Christ on a pony!

next issue..."Russian Gulag...siberian work prison, or, fat camp for your chubby youngster?"

Who is Photo: Abid Katib?

So who else is looking for evidence of the Clone Tool?

lol

re: #9 josephjcox

Maybe the other way around.

Build your own Qassam rocket. Fire it. Exchange high fives. Have a media event to discuss what you did and why. Get a photo. Get the certificate.

Golly! What a great time!

/sarc
/puke

It's a tough life, indeed!

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;)

Respectfully,
Brian

This is nothing but a mouth-piece for Hamas.

It helps the weary people at Intel shops who clip the photos and feed them into the data base.

So who wrote this thing? The photos come from a Getty stringer, Abid Katib. Who wrote the text?

Foreign Policy used to be an non-glossy, wonky, and fairly high-quality publication. Then they decided to get cuter and glossier back around 2000 or so. Now it's hard to find the occasional diamond in the rough.

You have got be be f*ing kidding me.

re: #10 GoJeepGo

Is it me or do the designs on their t-shirts bear a striking resemblance to the Hezbollah logo?

Perhaps the photographer didnt realize he was in Lebanon?

re: #22 godfrey

So who wrote this thing? The photos come from a Getty stringer, Abid Katib. Who wrote the text?

I'm thinking Katib did.

Hamas hard-liners say that Israel has not honored its obligations under the truce and warn that they may soon resort to military action.

No sh*t? But then again- I'm not surprised to see an msm outlet not looking into why Israel has taken the actions they've taken. hamas attacks, Israel takes the measures it needs to take to defend itself, and hamas uses it as an excuse to attack Israel- again. But the msm just takes hamas' word for it. Truly disgusting, and Foreign Policy should be ashamed of themselves.

re: #16 MandyManners

Who is Photo: Abid Katib?

He's a (I assume) Pali stringer, that works for Getty Images. Apparently he's one of the photogs who took propaganda pictures of Hamas and their "food" smuggling through the tunnels into Gaza.

Can ANYONE tell me why Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and the other Imajerkistanians light tires on fire? What is the point behind burning rubber (or is that a metaphor for something else....)

The emphasis during the Hamas training camp is on "retreat" and alternatively "die grotesquely". Saves time, since they mostly have to go against the IDF.

Now I know why Hamas will always lose. They train on a simulated battlefield, but they are such pussies that they never actually face anyone on a real battlefield. Training wasted.

These photos beg a question the MSM refuses to ask...
How the hell do a people under "brutal occupation" manage to be so well armed? I don't recall the partisans in WW2 being that well armed. Or the Irgun or Haganah in the Palestine Mandate. Or the Continental Army prior to French assistance. Or any other of the "GENUINE" resistance group.
There is only when answer...
They're not under brutal occupation, they're not being starved/cleansed/(insert cliched blood-libel here), and their goal isn't peace.
What they are is full of s**t as are their sycophantic worshippers in the MSM/State Department/UN/(insert antisemitic organization here).

re: #29 Eowyn2

Can ANYONE tell me why Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and the other Imajerkistanians light tires on fire? What is the point behind burning rubber (or is that a metaphor for something else....)

They're all about destruction.

re: #19 snapped shot

Hey Brian, the #28 comment I put up about Abid Katib and the tunnel propaganda photos was based on one of your pages where his name is listed as one of the tags. Was Katib one of the photographers at Rafah, for Hamas' propaganda exercise?

They are very good dhimmis.....tools for anti-American propaganda.....

Their 'resistance' should be to their own barbarity.

re: #31 Gordon Marock

Now I know why Hamas will always lose. They train on a simulated battlefield, but they are such pussies that they never actually face anyone on a real battlefield. Training wasted.

He who plants a bomb on a retarded child and runs away lives to fight another day!

It must have lost something in translation.

Think you have what it takes to join the Islamic resistance? Here’s how Hamas militants in Gaza have been spending their summer.

All it takes to join is: a somewhat regular pulse, drawing breath, a disdain of Schick & Norelco products and at least a minimum of mental derangement.

For those severly deranged, there's Hamas' Special Forces training.

This is, for one, the weakest training I have ever seen monkeys do. Second, it makes me sick to my stomach that someone actually is trying to glorify these cowards. The real photo essay would be;
"Do you think you've got what it takes..." and show one of these weaklings standing in the middle of a circle made up of a baby, a three year old, a five year old, a seven year old, a ten year old, a pregnant mother and an old couple. He will be standing in the middle with the vest of shame on, his thumb on the button looking at the camera while all of the others are looking at him.
Shame on this person!

Here's FP's list of The World's Top 20 Public Intellectuals.

It includes Al Gore and top "write-in candidate" Stephen Colbert.

lol

Foreign Policy is from the Carnegie Endowment. It has always been a more left wing less credible shadow of Foreign Affairs.

re: #29 Eowyn2

They're a bunch of idiots who don't realize how visible burning tire smoke is from the cockpit of a IDF fighter jet. Hopefully, they will be educated on that very soon.

re: #33 MandyManners

They're all about destruction.

that cant be it. Is there some reason that tires are against the Koran? Are they an Israeli tool of oppression? It doesn't matter what part of the ME you're in. There is always going to be a picture of a pile of tires burning in the background. Is it less expensive than the obvious lighting of the milk tunnels?

re: #38 P. Aaron

All it takes to join is: a somewhat regular pulse, drawing breath, a disdain of Schick & Norelco products and at least a minimum of mental derangement.

For those severly deranged, there's Hamas' Special Forces training.

...and Proctor & Gamble products
and water.

re: #34 Ward Cleaver

Ward,

Yep, he was:

[Link: www.daylife.com...]
[Link: www.daylife.com...]

Daylife doesn't publish Getty stringer names on their general display pages, but the caption that's embedded in these photos reads:

"Description: RAFAH-EGYPT BORDER, GAZA STRIP - JUNE 27: A masked Palestinian man speaks by telephone with his colleagues at the Egyptian side as he and others (not pictured) smuggle food, milk and supplies underground June 27, 2008 in a tunnel, which links between Rafah southern Gaza Strip and Egypt. In the eighth day of the tottered truce between Israel and Palestinian militant factions in the Hamas-rule Gaza, the Palestinians still count on smuggled victuals and supplies through tunnels from Egypt. Israel has closed the crossings with Gaza for legal import goods, amidst of exchanged accusations between both sides, whose infract the cease-fire first. (Photo by Abid Katib/Getty Images)"

re: #45 snapped shot

More here: [Link: www.daylife.com...]

If these fawning leftist journalists want to know what a tough bootcamp is really like they should go visit this place instead.

Useless Idiots!

re: #29 Eowyn2

Can ANYONE tell me why Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and the other Imajerkistanians light tires on fire? What is the point behind burning rubber (or is that a metaphor for something else....)

Two reasons.
1) It makes a barrier to advancing troops, fire smoke and the tires themselves.
2) The threat of necklacing that Winnie Mandela used in South Africa. Hang a tire around someone's neck, add gasoline and then ignite.

re: #29 Eowyn2

Can ANYONE tell me why Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and the other Imajerkistanians light tires on fire? What is the point behind burning rubber (or is that a metaphor for something else....)

Its makes a thick black smoke, which can be seen (and smelled) for a distance, potentially useful for signalling purposes.

Hehe, most of them are Islamic scholars. Also included is Noam Chompsky (of course), and amazingly, Ayan Hirsi Ali!

re: #40 godfrey

Here's FP's list of The World's Top 20 Public Intellectuals.

It includes Al Gore and top "write-in candidate" Stephen Colbert.

lol

How far have they fallen?

Somewhere in my garage is a back issue from 1999 explaining that the Taliban in Afghanistan is destabilizing the region by exporting terror.

re: #40 godfrey

Here's FP's list of The World's Top 20 Public Intellectuals.

It includes Al Gore and top "write-in candidate" Stephen Colbert.

lol

Anybody who flunks out of divinity school is no intellectual.

This is training.

For most, the greatest challenge lies in Week 4 of Phase One. A grueling 5.5 days, the continuous training ultimately determines who has the ability and mindset to endure.

“Welcome to Hell Week.”

Trainees are constantly in motion; constantly cold, hungry and wet. Mud is everywhere–it covers uniforms, hands and faces. Sand burns eyes and chafes raw skin. Medical personnel stand by for emergencies and then monitor the exhausted trainees. Sleep is fleeting–a mere three to four hours granted near the conclusion of the week. The trainees consume up to 7,000 calories a day and still lose weight.

Hamas tee shirts

Hezbollah flag

Hamas forming the bottom of the pile. Who's in charge? Or maybe the Hizzies are just the summer day camp counselors?

The "Photo Essay" looks like it's a recruitment ad.

Carnegie:
With operations in Moscow, Beijing, Beirut, Brussels, and Washington, the Carnegie Endowment will not only change its nature but is also likely to alter the way think tanks operate and can be effective in a global marketplace of ideas where a single national outlook is bound to be overly restrictive.

They are so tough that in the next serious encounter with the IDF they won't go crying massacre to the UN and the media for a good 15 minutes.

re: #40 godfrey

Here's FP's list of The World's Top 20 Public Intellectuals.

It includes Al Gore and top "write-in candidate" Stephen Colbert.

lol

"Only an intellectual could say something so stupid."

--George Orwell

re: #19 snapped shot

It's a tough life, indeed!

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Respectfully,
Brian

"You there, number four, put down the RPG and put on this vest."
"Damn Ahmed, the recruits are getting dumber with every new class."

Who funds that magazine?

Oh, and Israel videos all these "training sessions."

ANd they're one of the first htings to go.

Read the captions to the photos and you understand the editorial bias:

On notice: Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defense Minister, has vowed to take the fight to Hamas in Gaza despite a shaky, month-long truce. Hamas says it is “prepared for all options.”

Leap of faith: Israeli officials accuse Hamas of using the truce to smuggle weapons and prepare for a new round of escalation.

Touché: A Hamas spokesman said Tuesday that Barak’s comments were “stupid statements.”

Where there’s smoke...: Hamas hard-liners say that Israel has not honored its obligations under the truce and warn that they may soon resort to military action.

Another round? “The Zionist occupation (Israel) has not yet agreed to the demand to release our prisoners so our fighters are preparing for the next round in which we will try to abduct more Israeli soldiers to swap them for our hero prisoners,” a PRC spokesman told Reuters.

This isn't a documentary, it's pro-Hamas propaganda.

School’s out: Wearing T-shirts that say “the resistance” in Arabic, Hamas's newly minted fighters raise their weapons in a celebratory cheer. It looks increasingly likely that they will be using them soon.

They should translate SAMAH as well.

ISLAMIC RESISTANT

The "noble savage" angle.

And the lefties at Foreign Affairs don't make a peep about the carbon footprint of the burning tires?

Dead men training.

re: #53 jcm

This is training.

Here's another pretty good and proper training course ...

re: #62 Ben Hur

They should translate SAMAH as well.

ISLAMIC RESISTANT

The tee shirts have the Hizzy logo on them!

re: #53 jcm

Dang. During sorority "hell week", we bake them brownies, and once we "kidnapped" them and took them out for pancakes.

re: #55 right_on_target

The "Photo Essay" looks like it's a recruitment ad.

Ah, yes.

"Are you tough enough for Hamas Boot Camp?" sounds like a recruiting slogan to me.

Of course we will hear no outrage from lefties, who have whined about every recruiting slogan the US military has ever used.

re: #64 Sunlight

And the lefties at Foreign Affairs don't make a peep about the carbon footprint of the burning tires?

Foreign Policy not Foreign Affairs

re: #67 Sunlight

The tee shirts have the Hizzy logo on them!

Here's the Hamas logo

re: #62 Ben Hur

They should translate SAMAH as well.

ISLAMIC RESISTANT

Uhhh...

Resistance?

Know what is more outrageous then these assholes and the media that venerates them- the pathetic Israeli Government that allows them to continue to acquire training and arms that will eventually and with certainty result in more Israeli dead.

This is beyond the pale. I'm sorry but it sounds like a Hamas training brochure. Do these people at FP understand or realize what they're doing here? This is an out and out BLATANT advertisement for Hamas recruiting.

Whoever wrote the text under each picture is about as anti-Israel/Pro-Hamas as I've seen in quite sometime.

This does NOTHING but glorify these Hamas killers.

re: #72 Sunlight

Here's the Hamas logo

Ideology Palestinian nationalism,
Sunni Islamism,

Memo to Wiki.

HAMAS is not a nationalist group.

They don't fly the Pali flag.

re: #75 Tazzerman

This is beyond the pale. I'm sorry but it sounds like a Hamas training brochure. Do these people at FP understand or realize what they're doing here? This is an out and out BLATANT advertisement for Hamas recruiting.

Whoever wrote the text under each picture is about as anti-Israel/Pro-Hamas as I've seen in quite sometime.

This does NOTHING but glorify these Hamas killers.

Correct on all counts.

re: #66 yma o hyd

Here's another pretty good and proper training course ...

Damn straight, SAS are top flight.

I was 6 weeks from taking the physical test for this school. When I blew the hell out of my knee, training.

re: #70 gman

Hey! I was just wondering about you last night. Glad to see you're still around.

re: #68 Silhouette

Dang. During sorority "hell week", we bake them brownies, and once we "kidnapped" them and took them out for pancakes.

I don't think I'd survive that........

re: #76 Ben Hur

Memo to Wiki.

HAMAS is not a nationalist group.

They don't fly the Pali flag.

Question to Ben Hur:
Why would Hamas summer campers in Gaza be wearing Hizzy logo tee shirts?

If they get a lab where they practice suicide bombing, I'm all for it.

Yes, that's it, they should practice! Out in the desert! With live bombs! Until they get it right! Wouldn't want to do it all wrong in front of the 72 raisins, after all.

re: #82 amphibian

If they get a lab where they practice suicide bombing, I'm all for it.

Yes, that's it, they should practice! Out in the desert! With live bombs! Until they get it right! Wouldn't want to do it all wrong in front of the 72 raisins, after all.

"No, really Mohammed, you don't truly understand how to do the attack until you train in a live fire exercise."

re: #81 Sunlight

Question to Ben Hur:
Why would Hamas summer campers in Gaza be wearing Hizzy logo tee shirts?

Because the camp across the lake got new shirts, and Camp Initfada couldn't afford new ones so they got the hand-me-downs.

So. A couple of questions.

What exactly was so difficult in any of those photos? I've seen service support troops go through tougher training.

Why do they all wear face masks if they are so proud of what they do and they are so "legit" an organization with "honorable" goals?

And just how hard does the training need to be to kill women and children in surprise attacks?

And why is a reputable magazine giving positive propaganda to these ersatz stormtroopers?

re: #84 Honorary Yooper

Because the camp across the lake got new shirts, and Camp Initfada couldn't afford new ones so they got the hand-me-downs.

Wouldn't this have been a good topic for the Foreign Policy website to have brought up for a counter discussion topic for their brilliant internationalist readers?

re: #52 Son of the Black Dog

But Al Gore is one of the top con men, ever. He's sold half the world on his Global Warmist snake oil. And he's laughing all the way to the bank.

re: #79 Sharmuta

Hey! I was just wondering about you last night. Glad to see you're still around.

Thanks, it's always good to be here. Just got busy with other things.

"ARE YOU TOUGH ENOUGH FOR HAMAS BOOT CAMP?"

Well, who are you asking? How about asking a United States Marine? Or a Navy SEAL? What about any female bravely serving in the U.S. Armed Forces (they are allowed to)? Is the answer a resounding yes? F'n right it is.

Does the MSM love a rhetorical question, the answer to which is usually opposite what they think it is?

re: #40 godfrey

Here's FP's list of The World's Top 20 Public Intellectuals.

It includes Al Gore and top "write-in candidate" Stephen Colbert.

lol

that was an effort in futility.

Notice how the top 10 are "Islamic Scholars"

who wrote this and why isnt Sean Penn and Bono on the list

re: #29 Eowyn2

Can ANYONE tell me why Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and the other Imajerkistanians light tires on fire? What is the point behind burning rubber (or is that a metaphor for something else....)

My guess would be it is to cover the nasty body odor of dead-men-walking who don't understand what a shower is.

re: #45 snapped shot

Ward,

Yep, he was:

[Link: www.daylife.com...]
[Link: www.daylife.com...]

Daylife doesn't publish Getty stringer names on their general display pages, but the caption that's embedded in these photos reads:

"Description: RAFAH-EGYPT BORDER, GAZA STRIP - JUNE 27: A masked Palestinian man speaks by telephone with his colleagues at the Egyptian side as he and others (not pictured) smuggle food, milk and supplies underground June 27, 2008 in a tunnel, which links between Rafah southern Gaza Strip and Egypt. In the eighth day of the tottered truce between Israel and Palestinian militant factions in the Hamas-rule Gaza, the Palestinians still count on smuggled victuals and supplies through tunnels from Egypt. Israel has closed the crossings with Gaza for legal import goods, amidst of exchanged accusations between both sides, whose infract the cease-fire first. (Photo by Abid Katib/Getty Images)"

"you said victuals"

re: #40 godfrey

Here's FP's list of The World's Top 20 Public Intellectuals.

It includes Al Gore and top "write-in candidate" Stephen Colbert.

lol

That's like a list of the 20 tallest midgets in the world.

re: #29 Eowyn2

Can ANYONE tell me why Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and the other Imajerkistanians light tires on fire? What is the point behind burning rubber (or is that a metaphor for something else....)

Reinventing the Weber?

re: #59 CyanSnowHawk

"You there, number four, put down the RPG and put on this vest."
"Damn Ahmed, the recruits are getting dumber with every new class."

The terrorist version of 'Shooty/No Shooty".

re: #87 Iron Fist

But Al Gore is one of the top con men, ever. He's sold half the world on his Global Warmist snake oil. And he's laughing all the way to the bank.

Al Gore has been a con man his entire political career. Sort of like BHO.

re: #92 Eowyn2

"Uh huh huhhuhu huhuh huh... That was cool."

;)

re: #6 Maine's Michael

Hello Mullah, Hello Fatah,
Here I am at, Camp Intifada

Camp is really, very thrilling,
As we learn new ways to do nasty Jew-Killing!

#69

For our fraternity "Hell Week", we baked "special brownies", whilst trying to get kidnapped by sorority members. Don't remember anything about pancakes though. Must have been the brownies...

In bizarro world, people who attack children are tough, and Al Gore is an intellectual.

The problem is that we seem to share a plane with bizarro world. And its denizens vote.

re: #63 Silhouette

The "noble savage" angle.

It's amazing how things cycle around here. I was just talking about Rousseau's noble savage compared to Hobbes brutal savage. And here we are again.

re: #100 Silhouette

In bizarro world, people who attack children are tough, and Al Gore is an intellectual.

The problem is that we seem to share a plane with bizarro world. And its denizens vote.

Bizzaro Like Al Gore. (of course everything he says is backwards, kinda like Al Gore. Al Gore=Bizarro? Both pale, both bassackwards, but Bizarro has much better muscle tone.)

re: #98 Maine's Michael

Camp is really, very thrilling,
As we learn new ways to do nasty Jew-Killing!

Coming along nicely.

The Zionist occupation (Israel) has not yet agreed to the demand to release our prisoners so our fighters are preparing for the next round in which we will try to abduct more Israeli soldiers to swap them for our hero prisoners,” a PRC spokesman told Reuters.

Could it possibly be stated any more clearly? The elected leadership in Gaza is quoted saying that they plan to carry out terrorist acts. The MSM spends years trying to create war crimes out of Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib and yet they ignore statements like this.

Disgusting

Caption for pic 9:

Israel and Fatah, meanwhile, have stepped up a campaign of arrests of Hamas members in the West Bank. Hamas has responded with arrests of Fatah members in Gaza

Israel arrests. Hamas and Fatah don't bother with niceties: thye've been killing each other. But, of course, it is Israel that is the violator of human rights.

Resistance?

What exactly is it that they are supposed to be resisting? Basic human decency? Civilization? A society based upon something other than murder, delusions of persecution (not to mention adequacy), and self-destruction?

The only reason that there is a Hamas for the lefties to get all wet between the legs over is because Israel's policy is to play nice with its mortal enemies.

You're right, that is peculiar. Is this postmodern drollery or something more sinister? Here's info about the editor and publisher, Moises Naim. First is a little about Venezuela in the '90s; second link is his bio at Foreign Policy. Hard to tell... Was he with Chavez in the '90s and is now undermining the U.S. from his new and tony position?
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Moisés Naím
Moisés Naím is editor and publisher of FOREIGN POLICY. He has written extensively on the political economy of international trade and investment, multilateral organizations, economic reforms, and globalization. He is the author or editor of eight books, numerous essays, professional articles and his opinion columns are regularly published in the world’s leading newspapers.
Dr. Naím served as Venezuela’s minister of trade and industry and played a central role in the initial launching of major economic reforms in the early 1990s. Prior to his ministerial position, he was professor and dean at Instituto de Estudios Superiores de Administración, in Caracas. He was also the director of the projects on economic reforms and on Latin America at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Dr. Naím was associated with the World Bank on two occasions, first as an executive director and later as a senior advisor to the president.

Dr. Naím holds a Ph.D. and a master’s degree from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

What the f?

was this done as a joke or something? I'm still looking for the "/sarcasm" tags on that website.

re: #12 Kosh's Shadow

Send your kids to this camp and watch how fast they blow up.

A Palestinian girl says to her mommy, "After Abdul blows up, can I have his room?"

Wonder how hamas scored those shiny new guns, eh Olmy? Condy?

/spit

Let's see.....billowing black smoke plus one predator equals.......no more training camp?

Jumping through hoops of fire and molesting little boys?

re: #85 Outrider

What exactly was so difficult in any of those photos?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that maybe this was exactly the I-R-O-N-I-C point of the "Are You Tough Enough for Hamas Boot Camp?" headline.

I would also suggest that maybe FP didn't bother overtly stating that Hamas is a treacherous terrorist organization because res ipsa loquitur.

But that's just my read of it.

Foreign Policy's Blake Hounshell responds:

Is FP a front for Hamas?

Let's all take a deep breath, people. As the person who put this thing together for ForeignPolicy.com, let me make one thing clear: Nobody here is trying to glorify Hamas, which is duly listed as a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department and others. It's pretty newsworthy, though, that the Hamas-affiliated Popular Resistance Committees (PRCs), also widely considered a terrorist organization (though not explicitly listed by State), are training in this way and so openly, and the captions tell a broader story of the rising tensions that threaten to destroy the fragile Gaza cease-fire. As for the photographs themselves, I think we can all agree that they make for compelling viewing.

It's clear, however, that LGF commenters are furious that this photo essay doesn't take a strong, anti-Hamas line. Do they really fear that somehow, FP readers will be motivated by these photographs to join the "Islamic resistance"? I'm not worried.

One final note: Analytically speaking, I'm not so sure about using the term "terror training camp" to describe what is going on at this facility. I don't think the PRCs aren't terrorists, mind you -- of course they are -- but from these photographs it doesn't look like they are learning terrorist methods such as firing rockets at civilians or blowing up buses (and the PRCs have certainly done such things in the past) but rather learning how to fight like an irregular army. Other Palestinians are probably just as much a target as Israel. If anyone has any information to the contrary, please send it my way. But the real terrorist training happens far away from the cameras, I'd wager. This stuff is all just for show.

Wow. Talk about over-reacting, and reading all kinds of things into my post that weren't there. "A front for Hamas?"

I guess it's easier to brush off LGF if you mischaracterize what I write.

But this response does show that the impression of moral relativity you got from their photo essay was no accident. It's not a "terror training camp?" You've got to be kidding.

re: #8 Da Coyote

I long ago lost any respect for any academic degree or govt position relating to foreign policy. These folks are - to put it bluntly - jokes. Proof? The Foreign Policy mag should be a good start. Elementary reasoning at best.

I noticed a few years ago--during the 1990s-- that Foreign Policy had gone over to the Dark Side. As you say, most of the academic or government types analyzing current affairs are jokes. Most of them cannot recognize evil when they see it. They think they're "explaining" things, but generally they end up rationalizing thug outfits like Hamas and the PLO.

re: #114 Charles

That's one of the most weaselly things I've read all month.

I don't think the PRCs aren't terrorists, mind you -- of course they are -- but from these photographs it doesn't look like they are learning terrorist methods such as firing rockets at civilians or blowing up buses (and the PRCs have certainly done such things in the past) but rather learning how to fight like an irregular army. Other Palestinians are probably just as much a target as Israel.

Richly nuanced, just like the captions.

Considering how much money the Palestinians allegedly have; if that's a training/assault course it's pathetic.
They look very ragged and undisciplined.
Any British or American troops would be laughing their socks off at this. I believe that Fort Bragg has a big one - assault course that is. I can't imaging this lot making it through LOL
It's no use comparing training of elite or special forces to this rabble; but then they only have to pick on defenceless civilians. Vicious and pitiful all at the same time.
Gah!

It seems that the jist of the article is that terrorists deserve kudos for being tough and brave. Like Bill Maher's "give the devil his due" reaction after 9-11.

re: #6 Maine's Michael

Camp is very
Entertaining
We're about to learn the finer points
Of caning.

The captions to this photo essay have no relation to the pictures. Speaking as a photographer, the pictures are no better than ordinary.

I'm 52 and a tad out of shape and I think I can 'qualify" for what those dopes are shown doing. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel to square off with them, even if they hide behind civilians... there are 1.5 million people in Gaza, give or take and they can muster 50 per class? I thin the Des Moines Police Dept. trains more people, more professionally that that! Someone at FP needs a reality check...