Oh this is going to be a very interesting month in Colorado...

How the hell did he pass security?

Putin's been busy this week

Oh my, did they profile him?

appears to be from outside the U.S.

/bad, bad people

Islamic name. Came in from Canada.
Remember the guy in Vegas with the Ricin? What ever happened to him?

I do not even want to go there. This is way too much. Cyanide? Get real, that is not the the WMD of choice.

24 hour rule is in effect.

Just glad he wasn't on a Greyhound Bus.

If there's no passport how do they know his identity?

you gotta be careful ordering room service food.....

/never know what you'll get %-)

Why attack people who didn't even vote for Bush?

/Mike Al-Moore off

Scary- I hope the authorities in both Denver and the Twin Cities are now on a higher alert.

Huhm...

Why are they assuming it is cyanide?

and how large was this container?

Strange.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

He was just looking for some Kool-Aid.

Beat me to it.

If you gotta ride, ride the white horse
If you gotta ride, ride the white horse
I'm feeling the Saudi beat

Probably a superdelegate

It’s believed Dirie died from something other than the substance that was in the container.

Does Hillary have an alibi?

And where are the other three containers?

re: #14 NoSubmission

Why are they assuming it is cyanide?

You're asking good questions. You're obviously not a journalist.

#20
good one!

You mean he's not a superdelegate?

24 hour rule people. The white powder is probably just some fine blow, his people are blowing themselves up all the time.

#26
not anymore...

re: #18 ploome hineni

re: #22 ploome hineni

re: #25 ploome hineni

You're on a roll!

What, he woke up in Denver, found out he wasn't in Vegas, and offed himself. Happens all the time.

re: #18 ploome hineni

tattooed on his belly

The tattoo is supposed to go on the back of the neck.

re: #30 godfrey

What, he woke up in Denver, found out he wasn't in Vegas, and offed himself. Happens all the time.

What happens in Denver

#27
oof, that was a bad pun...
(should i ding that up or down?)

They may be judging it cyanide due to the nature of his death or the smell in the room. The symptoms of cyanide poisoning are specific. If he had converted the powder to a gas it would have smelled like burnt almonds.

Cyanide, from all I heave heard, smells like almonds. If investigators smelled almonds, it is very likely to be cyanide, but they can't say it is cyanide until tests are run.

#36
note to self: don't order the burnt almond pastry...

The new nose candy.

Could it just be a lucky terrorist work accident?

Actually though, only 40% of the population have the ability to smell cyanid e gas. Just a note.

It was dehydrated milk from the Palestinian/Gaza/Hamas tunnels.

Just leave his body their until the convention. Obama can raise him from the dead.

re: #43 Ay, Caramba

Best laugh all day!

re: #14 NoSubmission

Cyanide salts often have a characteristic "bitter almond" smell (that interestingly, not every human can smell. . .damn you Darwin!). So its possible someone with a nose and a clue made the connection.

plooooome

Mukuzani wine is good, from Georgia

drank it tonight with mixed grill

#46
i suppose this guy was not among that 40%...

re: #33 uptight

What happens in Denver

Stays in Denver

heh

is this thing on?

damn, scary stuff

#49
it's the cyanide.
makes lizards groggy...

re: #43 Ay, Caramba

Just leave his body their until the convention. Obama can raise him from the dead.

Now that is funny.

Looks like the Jehovah's and Buddhists are at it again, plotting one of their high profile attacks.

re: #42 jorline

It was dehydrated milk from the Palestinian/Gaza/Hamas tunnels.

I thought it was dehydrated milk from the Iraqi baby milk factory we bombed.

I don’t get it. Why would Saleman Abdirahman Dirie, 29, attempt to disrupt the DNC’s ♥ Barack Hussein Obama ♥ love-fest? The Islamofacists and the Dhimmicrats see eye-to-eye on so very many things (i.e.: “death to Amerikkka”, blame Amerikkka first, G-d D-mn Amerikkka, etc.) that it would be similar to Hitler trying to assassinate Mussolini.

The man’s room on the fourth floor of The Burnsley hotel at 10th and Grant.

Who's buried in Grants hotel?

re: #55 Red_State_Envy
He was a Hillary man?

It’s believed Dirie died from something other than the substance that was in the container.

Maybe a bullet?

#58
a deeply placed mole?

The tests could take days.

They also "could" take minutes, *IF* the stuff gets in the right hands and its a "hit".

The classic "Prussian blue" reaction only takes a few minutes to run, and would be presumptive proof of cyanide salts.

Cyanide attack at the Dem convention? Possible. The question might be, if there was one person left dead by accident(?). Did he prove to be unreliable, or did his chemical get away from his control, or was he a disposable lab rat? I wonder if the truth might ever be released?

well, at least it wasn't Polonium

Not to worry...it was Convention Kool-Aid.

#61
(OT -- i always wondered where those evil twins got their stage names from... adds an extra helping of irony per the previous thread)

Ohhhh Canadaaaaaaaaaaaaa- our home and native land----porous borders have we- come bring out contra-band! Re-create 68- for the convention, do not be late- we will make our moon-bat staaaannnnnddddd.

Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead

Tagline:
They can die quickly. They can die slowly. But they must die!

re: #55 Red_State_Envy

I don’t get it. Why would Saleman Abdirahman Dirie, 29, attempt to disrupt the DNC’s ♥ Barack Hussein Obama ♥ love-fest? The Islamofacists and the Dhimmicrats see eye-to-eye on so very many things (i.e.: “death to Amerikkka”, blame Amerikkka first, G-d D-mn Amerikkka, etc.) that it would be similar to Hitler trying to assassinate Mussolini.

Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of men?

Only the Shadow!

re: #64 noshariaincanada

well, at least it wasn't Polonium

What's wrong with Polonium?
/

Its seems pretty obvious to me that the investigators know a LOT more about this than has been described in the article (which is full of holes).

Unfortunately, I'd expect them to be pretty hush-hush about the details.

I am wondering how he would use it in an attack.

Just pulled up this story from 2002 where some Moroccan's were caught in Rome. They were plotting an attack on the water supply.

re: #70 buzzsawmonkey

All a mistake. He thought that it was while his wife gave him permission.

Geez, anyone coulda easily made that mistake.

Wasn't there another man found dead in a hotel room with white powder all over him --that wasn't cocaine --recently.

Is this the same story?

off to investigate

BTW --hey Lizards!

I heard this story on the radio a half dozen times today and not once was his name used in the report. The media is unbelievable.

re: #62 dhimmipower

The question might be, if there was one person left dead by accident(?). Did he prove to be unreliable, or did his chemical get away from his control, or was he a disposable lab rat?

Maybe homeland security is on the ball.

one can hope

The powder was pre-production Flip-Flop-Fizzies.

re: #44 rawmuse

Best laugh all day!

Hey RM ... yes that was funny ... a bit of trooth sprinkled over it.

ah, I was thinking about this story. The Ricin poisoning from March.

re: #76 monumentlizard

All I got to hear, over and over, was the Archdiocese payout to victims of abuse in Chicago.

I had no clue about the Denver Hotel Death until I signed-on to LGF.

re: #9 BLBfootballs

If there's no passport how do they know his identity?

Probably written on his welfare checks.

re: #62 dhimmipower

Cyanide attack at the Dem convention? Possible. The question might be, if there was one person left dead by accident(?). Did he prove to be unreliable, or did his chemical get away from his control, or was he a disposable lab rat? I wonder if the truth might ever be released?

If the guy were killed (on purpose) by his associates as a "lab rat" they'd be unlikely to leave a large amount of the questionable substance present (unless it was discovered quickly by a third party).

I can think of LOTS of questions to ask here:
a. Who is this guy?
b. Why do the investigators think its cyanide? What is it really?
c. Why do the investigators think he was killed by something other than cyanide?
d. How did he die? Was there an autopsy?
e. Where did he get this "stuff"?
f. Are there associates and if so, where are they?
g. How was this scene discovered?

And I expect no answers, because the Feds will (probably appropriately) put a lid on this thing to help further the investigation, and prevent a panic.

Another work accident.

re: #55 Red_State_Envy

I'm guessing security would be easier to breach at the dem convention. Authorities will have their hands full with all the protesting loons that are now the dem base.

re: #57 ploome hineni

Looks like she is trying to recite a script.

Wasn't this movie done already?
Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead.

Adding to the intrigue is that the dead man, Saleman Abdirahman Dirie, 29, appears to be from outside the U.S. No passport was found on Dirie, who is believed to have entered the country from Canada.

Mums the word at this time I'm sure...follow the money trail.

Oh geesh! I lived at the Burnsley when I was going to school ... it is an older hotel of off the tourist path that traveling salesmen used to book when they were in town.

Saleman Abdirahman Dirie, huh?

No passport, huh?

Do you think . . . ? ? ?

re: #71 jcm

What's wrong with Polonium?
/

I learned something !

As I recall, cyanide poisoning leaves behind characteristic blue discoloration around the mouth and nose. "Prussian Blue"

Why would someone with an Arabic name be trying to kill Dhimmicrats?
I thought they all loved Obama?

On a side note: Nothing nicer than having a dinner where all the vegetables came from your own garden--some baby Black-Seeded Simpson lettuce and fresh rosemary leaves in balsamic vinegar and olive oil, with a fresh-picked jalapeno sliced into the main dish.

Possible cyanide poisoning victim from Ottawa

For some reason this feels like the end to the jihadi version of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

dumb-ass probably sniffed it and said, "I love almonds".

On what basis do they believe it might be arsenic? I'm not up-to-date on my chemical analysis, but is there some characteristic of arsenic that would make them think it was before the tests were finished? Some forms of it smell like garlic, IIRC.

I do find it telling that the media so quickly identified the name when the Democrats were the potential targets. They usually bury any possible connection to Islam or terrorism in stories.

re: #92 Kosh's Shadow

Why would someone with an Arabic name be trying to kill Dhimmicrats?
I thought they all loved Obama?

They want to spread panic and fear. Like I said upthread- I hope the authorities in the Twin Cities are on a higher alert level after this.

Note to self: Never be the test target on a dry run.......

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

Arsenic is an element. Cyanide is a compound.

Is sodium cyanide one of the ingredients?

re: #92 Kosh's Shadow

Why would someone with an Arabic name be trying to kill Dhimmicrats?
I thought they all loved Obama?

I know a Palestinian who likes Bush and the Republican party's conservative values. Otherwise, he's an Israel-hating racist.

Saleman Abdirahman Dirie, 29, appears to be from outside the U.S. No passport was found on Dirie, who is believed to have entered the country from Canada.

I wonder how they know that?

sphincter tightening moment for the DPD, I suppose.

OT:

But since it's going un-noticed in the midst of all the other happenings, there was a lot of good economic news today.

GNP grew 3 percent in June, kinda kills the idea that we are in recession. The pundits and tea leaf readers just haven't adjusted their meters for this centuries economic factors is my read.

re: #91 Salem

As I recall, cyanide poisoning leaves behind characteristic blue discoloration around the mouth and nose. "Prussian Blue"

I don't think so.

Prussian blue is the characteristic bright blue color you get when cyanide salts are mixed with an iron solution (I think Ferric sulfate, but don't hold me to that). IIRC, that compound isn't toxic, just the cyanide salt.

Individuals poisoned by cyanide may emit the characteristic "almond" smell, and they will appear reddish or flushed.

As a very simple explanation, this individual may simply have committed suicide using cyanide. Updated story here:

Possible cyanide poisoning victim from Ottawa

DENVER (AP) — Authorities say a man who died of possible cyanide poisoning at a Denver hotel was a 29-year-old from Ottawa.

The medical examiner's office said Tuesday that an autopsy is planned on the body of Saleman Abdirahman Dirie. Officials say he may have died of cyanide poisoning.

Dirie's body was discovered Monday in a hotel room and a hazardous-materials team found a bottle of white powder in the room. Authorities say they are trying to determine what the powder is.

Police say Dirie had been dead for several days, but foul play is not suspected.

Cyanide is a fast-acting chemical that prevents the body from processing oxygen. It is used in manufacturing, metallurgy and pest extermination.

re: #9 BLBfootballs

If there's no passport how do they know his identity?

He was in a room. He must have provided some ID when he checked in.

What's REALLY important is that my fantasy baseball team has a pitching staff of Johan Santana, Tim Lincecum, CC Sabathia, Jake Peavy, and Justin Verlander and I am STILL in last place in my league! "#$%*@#*$�&@"

ARRRRGGGHH

To hell with this predictable idiot in his hotel room! Someone fix my team! ;)

(Sharmata, I found your document, will read it at work tomorrow)

re: #97 mossley

On what basis do they believe it might be arsenic? I'm not up-to-date on my chemical analysis, but is there some characteristic of arsenic that would make them think it was before the tests were finished? Some forms of it smell like garlic, IIRC.

I do find it telling that the media so quickly identified the name when the Democrats were the potential targets. They usually bury any possible connection to Islam or terrorism in stories.

It would probably take about an hour to figure it out, including time to bring a chemical ID kit. Or they just take the stuff back to the crime lab. Denver's a big city, so they will have a good one.

I read this headline a couple of days back, but there was no ID on the dead guy.

re: #92 Kosh's Shadow

Why would someone with an Arabic name be trying to kill Dhimmicrats?
I thought they all loved Obama?

Liberals are more credulous, especially if someone comes along confirming all of their romantic noble-savage notions. Some little lefty group they might have been infiltrating probably won't believe these nice Arab guys are up to no good. Just like they honestly believed that this really nice Cuban-American, Castro-loving business owner whose store never seems to have customers just happens to have enough money for their cause from his business.

"White powder" ... "hotel room" ... of course cyanide is the first thing people think of.

I'm sure they're about to arrest the three stripper "accomplices" next. With their high-tech "slingshots" (doubling as G strings).

Seriously, not that I mind being informed, but until they tell us what the substance is, this story is just so much wind.

re: #9 BLBfootballs

If there's no passport how do they know his identity?

Driver license, credit cards, autobiography...

Somalian?

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

Arsenic is an element. Cyanide is a compound.

I knew I should have gone to bed. :S I actually read the entire story to see if it said why they thought it was cyanide.

So, are there any characteristics of cyanide that make them suspect that was what was found?

OT

i just applied the patch-Tuesday stuff and my XP machine is now running a whole lot faster - everything is snappier.

undocumented tweaks?

I had a particular obnoxious organic/ natural / vegan pestering me one day at about how all natural was the only way to go. I finally glared at him and said:

"Cyanide is natural"

Police say Dirie had been dead for several days, but foul play is not suspected.

Suicide by cyanide? How ... swashbuckling. Or something.

And the guy was dead for several days before they found him. I doubt they could detect any trace of almond odor, if you know what I mean.

Bitter Almonds

re: #116 jcm

I had a particular obnoxious organic/ natural / vegan pestering me one day at about how all natural was the only way to go. I finally glared at him and said:

"Cyanide is natural"

LOL!

The Denver Coroner's Office found no obvious cause of death, and tests to determine cyanide poisoning will take at least a week and possibly longer, said chief deputy coroner Michelle Weiss-Samaras.

She said that investigators found a small bottle of sodium cyanide, "which you can buy" she said.

Cyanide is a highly poisonous, fast-acting chemical compound available from a number of sources, including medical research and mining, according to the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Denver police said Dirie had apparently been dead for several days when he was found dead in a suite Monday morning.

After the coroner's office said cyanide might be a factor, investigators returned a few hours later and found the powder thought to cyanide, though tests to prove that were incomplete Tuesday, according to the FBI.

[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

We must not jump to conclusions, I'm sure he was just a traveling salesman. does that make this death of a salesman?

re: #7 JohnnyReb

I do not even want to go there. This is way too much. Cyanide? Get real, that is not the the WMD of choice.

24 hour rule is in effect.

Not as cheap as biological weapons but easier to get a hold of. Cyanide isn't the worst choice a future terrorist could make. Oh aside from terrorism I guess.

re: #116 jcm

I had a particular obnoxious organic/ natural / vegan pestering me one day at about how all natural was the only way to go. I finally glared at him and said:

"Cyanide is natural"

Now that's funny.

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

Sounds like a new herbal tea.

For cranky lesbians.

White powder could be anything from cyanide to anthrax or cocaine. We are going have to invoke the 24 hour rule on this one. Reminds me of the assassination of the Syrian aide to Bashar. After two weeks no one who did it but everyone suspects Mossad due to the professionalism of the hit....

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead

Oh, you beat me to it.

re: #105 looking closely

Ah. Well, i read once that the guy who (inadvertently) discovered cyanide, Johannes Dipple, was blue when they found his body. The article attributed this discoloration to cyanide poisoning, but who knows? Dipple was actually looking for some kind of elixir, making his discovery a spectacular failure in that respect. He is considered to be one of Mary Shelly's inspirations for Dr. Frankenstein.

re: #116 jcm

I had a particular obnoxious organic/ natural / vegan pestering me one day at about how all natural was the only way to go. I finally glared at him and said:

"Cyanide is natural"

My neighbors have decided that they are going "organic" because it is "safer". They were out there spraying the hell out of their vegetable plants, and I asked them if they had bothered to read the warnings on the bottle. They were aghast - why would there be a warning on a bottle of organic spray? I pointed out there were plenty of deadly poisons that were completely natural.

re: #104 Thanos

OT:

But since it's going un-noticed in the midst of all the other happenings, there was a lot of good economic news today.

GNP grew 3 percent in June, kinda kills the idea that we are in recession. The pundits and tea leaf readers just haven't adjusted their meters for this centuries economic factors is my read.

Darn it Thanos did you miss the memo? We are heading into an "L" shaped recession. A steep collapse and then no recovery. All caused by capitalism and GWB.

/Serious "D" talking point... I had an earful all weekend...thankfully there was strong drink...

Many thanks for the hat tip!

There was this awful piece by that author Roald Dahl the guy who also did James and the Giant Peach. It was called The Landlady and it was one of these pieces that involved cyanide.

Read it in my teens. Only book that ever had me scared of drinking tea ever again.

re: #118 whiskeybeerwine

Bitters & Almonds

Fixed that for you...it's a cure for hangovers.

I don't know, maybe he knew too much, or made too many cyanide remarks.

dammit buzz I'm on the iPhone

not fast enow

Cyanide - a review (PDF)

OT: Quick, somebody tell Milo, this sounds good for the syndicate.

Mystery Cotton Price Spike

re: #114 mossley

It would be pretty obvious upon autopsy. CN mucks up your cellular respiration. It blocks the pathway that takes the energy from the Krebs Cycle so your cells can make ATP. NO ATP, no life.

[Link: members.aol.com...]

Read it all. Good stuff! (full disclosure I have a master's in biochemistry)

The Krebs cycle takes place in the matrix, producing NADH and FADH2 (not shown)
The NADH (and the FADH2) transfers its hydrogens to the ETC, where they are split into H+ ions and electrons
The ETC acts as a H+ ion pump, pulling H+s into the intermembrane space
This causes intermembrane space pH to drop to 7 and raises matrix pH to 8
"Pump" may not be the best term for the hydrogen carrier, since this is not an active transport consuming energy from ATP
The electrons are conducted laterally through the membrane from one ETC complex to the next, each time donating some of their energy to "pump" H+ ions (for more details see text diagram on p. 172)
Finally the de-energized electrons are combined with hydrogen ions and oxygen to produce water in the matrix
This reaction is catalyzed by cytochrome oxidase
The reaction is inhibited by cyanide, which is why cyanide is a poison

re: #130 mossley

My neighbors have decided that they are going "organic" because it is "safer". They were out there spraying the hell out of their vegetable plants, and I asked them if they had bothered to read the warnings on the bottle. They were aghast - why would there be a warning on a bottle of organic spray? I pointed out there were plenty of deadly poisons that were completely natural.

Being a bio-chem major we did all kinds of testing on stuff as lab work. One the things was looking at carcinogens in normal vs. organic produce. A lot of the organic stuff had elevated levels of natural carcinogenic compounds.

It seems plants will respond to insect attack by producing more toxins, organic plants have a higher level of insect attack.

Now none of the levels were a health risk, but it was a entertaining conclusion.

re: #133 Buster Bunny

There was this awful piece by that author Roald Dahl the guy who also did James and the Giant Peach. It was called The Landlady and it was one of these pieces that involved cyanide.

Read it in my teens. Only book that ever had me scared of drinking tea ever again.

Awful? The Landlady was awesome! So was this entire book:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

re: #139 funky chicken

It would be pretty obvious upon autopsy. CN mucks up your cellular respiration. It blocks the pathway that takes the energy from the Krebs Cycle so your cells can make ATP. NO ATP, no life.

[Link: members.aol.com...]

Read it all. Good stuff! (full disclosure I have a master's in biochemistry)

Summary...

bad, bad cyanide.

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First you search for some frillery
to beautify Hillary,
then a few more minutes to connive

SMS Osama
get back to Obama
then a few more minutes left alive

Find some rhyme or reason
in this silly season
do not let it all go to your head!

Rather's on the story
you can have your glory
with your Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead!

Get some FAME for yourself!
Make a NAME for yourself!
there's no need to fear, he
is Saleiman Dirie
and he won't be gathring dust up on the shelf!

Dan will write your story
full of spunk and glory
with your Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead!

Song & lyrics by Fnordly Sqump, circa 1947

This is baloney. Everyone knows the Bush administration is just hyping up the non-existent terror threat.

/sarc

re: #133 Buster Bunny

There was this awful piece by that author Roald Dahl the guy who also did James and the Giant Peach. It was called The Landlady and it was one of these pieces that involved cyanide.

Read it in my teens. Only book that ever had me scared of drinking tea ever again.

I DO NOT LIKE that guy's books. They are highly disturbed and disturbing, including James and the Giant Peach. Whoever decided that was a great book for kids is/was nuts.

re: #139 funky chicken

The only thing I recognized was ATP, pump and electrons. Good for you if what you published makes sense to you.

re: #139 funky chicken

If I use this as a pick-up line do you think it'll work.

It's always cyanide "capsules."

You'd think some enterprising hit man would diversify the market a bit with caplets and chewables. This is 2008, already.

re: #73 karmic_inquisitor

I am wondering how he would use it in an attack.

Just pulled up this story from 2002 where some Moroccan's were caught in Rome. They were plotting an attack on the water supply.

If it is a solid, then it is a cyanide salt, probably potassium cyanide. Besides slipping it into food or water, it could be used by mixing it with acid to make hydrogen cyanide gas.

re: #148 godfrey

It's always cyanide "capsules."

You'd think some enterprising hit man would diversify the market a bit with caplets and chewables. This is 2008, already.

They didn't really have a problem with product tampering, so there was no need to change their form factor.

re: #112 Walter L. Newton

Driver license, credit cards, autobiography...

Obama? And if so, which autobiography, the two he's written, the one he's having written, or the different ones he keeps telling the press?

/

re: #139 funky chicken
Thanks, the article was amazingly thin on details. Since they think the guy died of something else, though, I'm still curious why they think the powder is cyanide. As others have noted, there are so many other possibilities.

Are they assuming that he's a terrorist based on his name and being in the country illegally, therefore the substance is highly questionable? Not an unreasonable line of thinking, but why couldn't it be anthrax or other poisons? Did he have literature dealing with cyanide toxicity? Was the reporter trying to make the story bigger than it really is to sell more papers?

As threatening as this sounds, it's still the MSM. Until some more facts come out, I'm going to be skeptical.

Possible terrorist connection?

Hmmm. Lessee. Hotel room?
check.

Cyanide?
check.

From out of the country?
check.

Saleman Abdirahman Dirie?
Uh, no....NO.....silly conspiracy theorists....nothing to see here.....just move along now.

/MSM

re: #108 Eric Cartman's Conscience

wait...what...really?! NO fantasy baseball fans here? :)

re: #137 J.D.

Cyanide - a review (PDF)

Read all the way to page 6. Good stuff!

LOL

After cyanide is absorbed, it is rapidly distributed through the body. The majority of
cyanide in the body is protein bound (60%). Cyanide reacts reversibly but with high
affinity with metals such as the ferric ion (Fe3+) and cobalt. Cyanide also reacts with
sulfur containing compounds.
The primary effect of cyanide poisoning results from inhibition of the metal-containing
enzymes. The critical interaction appears to be inhibition of the enzyme cytochrome
oxidase a3 (containing iron) within the mitochondria. This enzyme is a necessary part of
the production of adenosine triphosphate (ATP). As a result, aerobic oxidative
metabolism and phosphorylation are compromised causing cellular hypoxia. Other
metabolic processes continue and the rate of glycolysis is increased markedly. The
pyruvate that is produced can no longer be used and is now reduced to lactate.

re: #152 mossley

Thanks, the article was amazingly thin on details. Since they think the guy died of something else, though, I'm still curious why they think the powder is cyanide. As others have noted, there are so many other possibilities.

Are they assuming that he's a terrorist based on his name and being in the country illegally, therefore the substance is highly questionable? Not an unreasonable line of thinking, but why couldn't it be anthrax or other poisons? Did he have literature dealing with cyanide toxicity? Was the reporter trying to make the story bigger than it really is to sell more papers?

As threatening as this sounds, it's still the MSM. Until some more facts come out, I'm going to be skeptical.

They found the powder in this.....
/

re: #140 jcm

Being a bio-chem major we did all kinds of testing on stuff as lab work. One the things was looking at carcinogens in normal vs. organic produce. A lot of the organic stuff had elevated levels of natural carcinogenic compounds.

It seems plants will respond to insect attack by producing more toxins, organic plants have a higher level of insect attack.

Now none of the levels were a health risk, but it was a entertaining conclusion.

Ooh, I need to look that up. Somewhere I have a list of articles and such on organic goods to give to the rather annoying people who want to preach organics to me.

It looks like the DNC just lost the convention's "Whitening Director."

re: #152 mossley

Roger that, Moss!

There was that story about 7 months ago (?) of the guy, dead, with a packet of white, powdery ANTHRAX and a small slit in the package, where he's sampled the goods... to his eternal chagrin!

Not QUITE the rush he was expecting, eh?

Dahl's books were indeed very disturbing. I loved 'em. My parents read that one about the big child-eating crocodile to me at bedtime.

re: #147 Ay, Caramba

LOL um, which part? I couldn't tell you because I'm a gal. Back in the day before women were all looking to give it away all the time, it was pretty easy to take a guy home if that was the goal.

Hmmmm . . . seems like a case of NSSJS (Not-So-Sudden Jihad Syndrome).

A devastating attack took place on Sunday when sodium cyanide was released through the ventilation system at Slough's Queensmere Shopping Centre.

But the affects it had on the public were purely acting, as this was a massive decontamination exercise in which all the emergency services came together to practice, should such an event ever occur.

WATCH ROLE-PLAY: Chemical attack in Slough

re: #159 Karridine

Roger that, Moss!

There was that story about 7 months ago (?) of the guy, dead, with a packet of white, powdery ANTHRAX and a small slit in the package, where he's sampled the goods... to his eternal chagrin!

Not QUITE the rush he was expecting, eh?

That's was kinda a Robin Williams joke. Something packages from Columbia...

re: #43 Ay, Caramba

Just leave his body their until the convention. Obama can raise him from the dead.

After the Messiah brings him back to life, DPD can waterboard him and find out all the info they need.

Just sayin... Just another reason for me to stay away from downtown during that week.

re: #162 zombie

Hmmmm . . . seems like a case of NSSJS (Not-So-Sudden Jihad Syndrome).

Self-Jihad?

re: #156 jcm

Of course!

re: #164 The Other Les

Well, the joke was on the poor schlub who snorted a line of pure ANTHRAX!

/Robin doesn't do death jokes, iirc, Les

C'mon now. My link and JD's have pictures and everything. It's not hard :-).

I know most of you had to learn the Krebs Cycle, right?

Cmon .. as a kid .. didnt you ever go down behind the sheds .. grab a couple of canisters of powdered cyanide .. a bong and ... get in trouble?

Maan .. whatever happened to living dangerously?

/Totally sarc

It’s believed Dirie died from something other than the substance that was in the container.

Was his head disconnected from his body?

Dirie, "KoolAide" mixer for the Obama at the DNC, was last seen getting a huge vat of the Obama-drink ready for the undulating crowds on opening night....

Suleiman Abdulrahman?

Biggest drop in U.S. oil demand in 26 years

The Energy Department's analytical arm sees continued falling oil demand, and for the first time is predicting that U.S. petroleum consumption in 2009 will be lower than this year, which would mark a drop in annual demand for three years straight.

That damn Bush!

Another web site states that his name is recognizable as coming for Somalia.

re: #169 funky chicken

Yeah, but I forgot most of it as soon as I left Maynard's island...

Sure 'nuff:

No terrorist link found in cynanide caseT

The Denver Coroner's Office found no obvious cause of death, and tests to determine cyanide poisoning will take at least a week and possibly longer, said chief deputy coroner Michelle Weiss-Samaras.

She said that investigators found a small bottle of sodium cyanide, "which you can buy" she said.

You can reportedly buy weapons grade plutonium if you know the right people and have enough cash, so this is not in and of itself reassuring.

re: #155 funky chicken

I'm not ruling out NSSJS just yet after reading that, how 'bout you?

re: #113 NoSubmission

Seems to be, at least thats the chatter on the web.

re: #168 Karridine

Well, the joke was on the poor schlub who snorted a line of pure ANTHRAX!

/Robin doesn't do death jokes, iirc, Les

He does cocaine jokes.

re: #165 Gumby

After the Messiah brings him back to life, DPD can waterboard him and find out all the info they need.

Just sayin... Just another reason for me to stay away from downtown during that week.

I would get clean out of the state.

re: #63 ploome hineni

Edwards said, he had the affair with the slut

WHILE HIS WIFE WAS IN REMISSION

so it's not so bad

And he doesn't even love her so its like it never happened.

re: #159 Karridine

Roger that, Moss!

There was that story about 7 months ago (?) of the guy, dead, with a packet of white, powdery ANTHRAX and a small slit in the package, where he's sampled the goods... to his eternal chagrin!

Not QUITE the rush he was expecting, eh?

Somehow, it's hard to have much sympathy for someone in that position.

In case no one's mentioned it yet:

"Dirie" is a distinctive Somalian name.

So he was definitely a Somali.

Those Obama delegates are just full of surprises !

re: #162 zombie

Hmmmm . . . seems like a case of NSSJS (Not-So-Sudden Jihad Syndrome).

A few minutes is still pretty sudden. And it would be very few (depending on the dose, of course).

re: #182 tokyobk

And he doesn't even love her so its like it never happened.

Maybe he was using the 3 state rule. You know, if its 3 states away it isn't cheating.

re: #63 ploome hineni

Edwards said, he had the affair with the slut

WHILE HIS WIFE WAS IN REMISSION

so it's not so bad

After which according to the tale they are telling he passed her on to someone on his campaign staff. I can't decide who is worse in that tale - John the Pimp, or what's her face the whore.

re: #181 galloping granny

Granny, please check up-thread... I seem to have dropped some lyrics into an invisible slot in the ongoing rush to Comment... not even ONE rating, up or down...

Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead!

/feedback is appreciated

"Dirie" is like the "Smith" or "Jones" of Somalia.

re: #157 mossley

Ooh, I need to look that up. Somewhere I have a list of articles and such on organic goods to give to the rather annoying people who want to preach organics to me.

Very little study is done on natural carcinogens.

Here's one of the very few articles on the subject.

re: #184 zombie

Canadian press is reporting he was a resident of Ottawa.

re: #166 The Other Les

Self-Jihad?

He was losing his peaceful inner struggle and decided to flee this mortal coil?

LOL sorry. that's kinda ghoulish.

re: #177 shiplord kirel

Sure 'nuff:

No terrorist link found in cynanide caseT

You can reportedly buy weapons grade plutonium if you know the right people and have enough cash, so this is not in and of itself reassuring.

Well, to be honest, cyanide has a lot of legitimate uses. Now what one he could possible have had is an entirely other matter...

Kos Diarist proclaims it a Rovian scheme in 5..4..3..

re: #186 funky chicken

A few minutes is still pretty sudden. And it would be very few (depending on the dose, of course).

No, I meant that this plot must have taken quite some foresight. "Sudden Jihad Syndrome" refers to someone who out-the-blue goes on a rampage.

The "sudden" part refers to the preparation, not the length of the attack.

How about JSA -- Jihad Syndrome Aforethought.

re: #56 jorline

Who's buried in Grants hotel?

President and Mrs. Grant...:)

re: #177 shiplord kirel

No terrorist link found in cynanide case

Recall, the MSM also insist Saddam had no link to terrorism either.

re: #130 mossley

My neighbors have decided that they are going "organic" because it is "safer". They were out there spraying the hell out of their vegetable plants, and I asked them if they had bothered to read the warnings on the bottle. They were aghast - why would there be a warning on a bottle of organic spray? I pointed out there were plenty of deadly poisons that were completely natural.

Someone on the radio was talking about organic pesticides and pointed out that cobra venom is organic, so "organic" doesn't mean "safe".

Cyanide comes in many delicious flavours. Potassium Cyanide, Sodium Cyanide and of course the new improved Cherry Flavour. Try one at your local jihadi supermarket today.

At least its not Pepsi . . . . . ..

re: #189 Karridine

Granny, please check up-thread... I seem to have dropped some lyrics into an invisible slot in the ongoing rush to Comment... not even ONE rating, up or down...

Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead!

/feedback is appreciated

Cute Karridine. I'll give you one :)

Famous last words:

'I shouldn't have sniffed that cyanide....but what a rush!'

Ok, time for some OT self-promotion from the lower thread.

Ok this is my first so be kind.
Mr. Darwin
(To the tune of Mr. Custer)
Please Mr. Darwin I don't wanna know
Listen Mr. Darwin Please don't make me Know

Science Knows you're right
But I just wanna fight
Someone uses a fact
and I respond with an ad hominem attack

Please Mr. Darwin I don't wanna know

re: #196 zombie

Hey, whatever.

OK, I'm laughing about this story too much. I think I'd better step away from the keyboard for a bit.

re: #201 galloping granny

Thankee, Mum! :D

Hopefully the nuts stay in Denver and don't come down to Colorado Springs.

Somalie from Ottawa, couple of other Canadian terrorists with the same surname in Google.

Just another reason why Fort Collins > Denver.

re: #206 marwan's daughter

Hopefully the nuts stay in Denver and don't come down to Colorado Springs.

So the fruits and flakes coming do is just fine?

re: #177 shiplord kirel

Sure 'nuff:

No terrorist link found in cynanide case

I'll highlight the key word in the article's first sentence:

"Federal agents are helping Denver police investigate the possible cyanide death of man found Monday in luxury hotel in Capitol Hill, but no evidence has YET shown terrorist links to the case, the FBI said today."

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

re: #203 Mars Needs Neocons

Of course maybe that wasn't off-topic.
Once all the facts come out we may have a Darwin Award nominee with this guy.

re: #197 Dustyvet

President and Mrs. Grant...:)

Grants Tomb. (Actually a really nice spot in NYC.....)

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

Kos Diarist proclaims it a Rovian scheme in 5..4..3..

It's certainly convenient that the Dem convention is being staged so close to LGF World Headquarters.

Just for the heck of it, let me throw this out there. We took the kiddo and her friend downtown for pizza for dinner. On the way we went by the town square (little Vermont town.) On the square there were 8 or 10 "war protesters" with their little signs. "US out of Iraq." "Don't Bomb Iran." Guess how much commentary on the Russian Bear steam rolling Georgia over the weekend?

re: #212 experiencedtraveller

No, no... Mr and Mrs Ulysses S. Smith

41,000 years ago several Aborigines dined on giant Kangaroo meat. It was tasty.

Prehistoric giant animals killed by man, not climate: study

re: #214 galloping granny

Just for the heck of it, let me throw this out there. We took the kiddo and her friend downtown for pizza for dinner. On the way we went by the town square (little Vermont town.) On the square there were 8 or 10 "war protesters" with their little signs. "US out of Iraq." "Don't Bomb Iran." Guess how much commentary on the Russian Bear steam rolling Georgia over the weekend?

None.

The Russians wouldn't want to kill their sympathizers and enablers - the Democrats - they'd much rather rid themselves of Republicans.

re: #214 galloping granny

Just for the heck of it, let me throw this out there. We took the kiddo and her friend downtown for pizza for dinner. On the way we went by the town square (little Vermont town.) On the square there were 8 or 10 "war protesters" with their little signs. "US out of Iraq." "Don't Bomb Iran." Guess how much commentary on the Russian Bear steam rolling Georgia over the weekend?

I'm actually surprised. I thought you'd see at least a few signs talking about it as a Bush conspiracy.

Hey, can you pass me a Coors Light? Wipe that powder off the top please. Please?

Dammit! Hand me a tissue.

re: #214 galloping granny

I'll take a stab, if there was any mention of Russia it was along the lines of "US Hands off Russia" or "US Out of Georgia!"

"Our Joint Terrorism Task Force is involved in this simply because the victim here is from another country and it just kind of makes sense that our terrorism guys would take a look a look at this," FBI Special Agent in Charge James Davis said.

- It must hurt to have to say stuff like this.

Officials said cyanide can be used as a terrorist weapon if it is dumped in water put in food, sprayed as a gas, or many other methods.

Note to self - bottled water and granola bars for protest watching.

Had a helluva time getting online tonight. Hate crappy "franchise" hotels.

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey, can you pass me a Coors Light? Wipe that powder off the top please. Please?

Dammit! Hand me a tissue.

Here's a fresh Coors Light, since I live 2 miles from the brewery.

re: #215 Karridine

As long as Mr. Dirie isn't buried there...

And I expect no answers, because the Feds will (probably appropriately) put a lid on this thing to help further the investigation, and prevent a panic.

Absolutely - those questions and many more are being asked and pondered on as we post.

re: #216 Racer X

41,000 years ago several Aborigines dined on giant Kangaroo meat. It was tasty.

Prehistoric giant animals killed by man, not climate: study

Native Americans also wiped out the New World Horse and other mega-fauna in the Americas.

Expert hunters + slow-breeding tasty creatures = extinction.

re: #199 Kosh's Shadow

Someone on the radio was talking about organic pesticides and pointed out that cobra venom is organic, so "organic" doesn't mean "safe".

It's amazing that people so blindly buy into marketing. There is nothing to suggest that organic = healthier/better/safer or any of the other feel-good modifiers used to describe it.

What's amusing is the rate these neighbors were spraying their plants - even if they were using a relatively safe spray, they were still drowning the plants in chemicals. Any "safety" their spray offered was countered by their application. I really doubt that their cells know how to tell the difference between an organic and a manufactured chemical.

Of course, my tomatoes are over six feet tall now, and I've been picking them since early July. They haven't had any ripen yet. And it's not like I douse my plants. I put in some slow-release fertilizer when I got the bed ready, as well as a lot of compost. And I haven't had a problem with bugs or viruses, unlike the neighbor's.

OT. Over the last couple of months, work-load, stress and long hours have contributed to a resurgence in my self-confidence and motivation. I know realize I have a lot of specialized knowledge and in computer networks and a good broad and general knowledge of how local governments operate with 27 years experience. I find myself challenged in my present environment and I am enjoying work. I have grown from an average network dweeb to a "can-do guy" who gets the job done. Two people have inspired and guided me in this growth, Ken, my manager (Who is a great ass-chewer) and Natasha, young co-worker who has a master in network engineering, and is raising a family and working on her doctorate in computer science. Natasha is truly amazing, I have never seen a true multi-tasker until her. I have watched her highlighting relevant sections of a Comcast contract while fully participating in a meeting and operating her blackberry simultaneously. I work with some very intelligent, hard-working, talented and under-appreciated individuals.
I have been dissatisfied with my employer, a local metro-Atlanta area county government for years due to the lack of raises to the employees in the trenches, but passing whopping 100 percent raises for the Commissioners and 60 percent for the CEO, making him the the highest paid in metro-Atlanta. Employees have received low raises that do not even begin to keep up with inflation, exaggerated by the high gas prices lately. My department has lost our best people because better offers. (continued on next post)

re: #214 galloping granny

Just for the heck of it, let me throw this out there. We took the kiddo and her friend downtown for pizza for dinner. On the way we went by the town square (little Vermont town.) On the square there were 8 or 10 "war protesters" with their little signs. "US out of Iraq." "Don't Bomb Iran." Guess how much commentary on the Russian Bear steam rolling Georgia over the weekend?

Vermont...I lived there for ten years. Down in Texas now. I miss Vermont (other than the moonbats).

re: #216 Racer X

Celebrating bigtime with Christmas dinner, a joey in the pot, kangaroo stew...

re: #217 The Other Les

None.

Yup. Had I not had the kids with me I might have stopped and got into it with them. Not a single word.

re: #225 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. I need about 40. As in 40 beers, not a "40".

re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Had a helluva time getting online tonight. Hate crappy "franchise" hotels.

Just put a quarter in the vibrating bed and relax!
;-)

God evening to you!

re: #228 zombie

Native Americans also wiped out the New World Horse and other mega-fauna in the Americas.

Expert hunters + slow-breeding tasty creatures = extinction.

Hmmmmmmm
Barbeque!

re: #216 Racer X

41,000 years ago several Aborigines dined on giant Kangaroo meat. It was tasty.

Prehistoric giant animals killed by man, not climate: study

Did they go to the Outback?

re: #231 trryhin

Vermont...I lived there for ten years. Down in Texas now. I miss Vermont (other than the moonbats).

I miss the Southwest. :)

re: #228 zombie

Can you imagine being the first hunter to find a cow?

Hey! These are easy. I think I'll invent A1!

re: #216 Racer X

41,000 years ago several Aborigines dined on giant Kangaroo meat. It was tasty.

Prehistoric giant animals killed by man, not climate: study

Back in my flesh devouring days I ate kangaroo. Quite lean and tasty if I remember correctly.

BW Myths

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Actually, the original cattle were much larger & very aggressive. Human controlled breeding produced the smaller docile domestic animal of today.

re: #242 Kenneth

Actually, the original cattle were much larger & very aggressive. Human controlled breeding produced the smaller docile domestic animal of today.

smart ass. heh.

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

smart ass. heh.

Modern man; fat penned up animals eating fat penned up animals.

re: #244 tokyobk

So true, and so sad.

re: #244 tokyobk

Modern man; fat penned up animals eating fat penned up animals.

So, the only thing I have is ding. Wish there were an Emeril "BAM!"

re: #247 buzzsawmonkey

Did you have it with pocket bread?

Don;t remember. Just remember thinking, these things must run fast cause there is almost no fat. Also, that I was eating a giant rat.

re: #229 mossley

Someone on the radio was talking about organic pesticides and pointed out that cobra venom is organic, so "organic" doesn't mean "safe".

Early in my practice, I had a couple of Flower Children come in, with their 8-day-old babe screaming in their arms.

I could SMELL the ammonia at arm's length, but I asked "What's the problem?"

*Our boy has this rash...*

And they took off THE diaper he'd worn since they brought him home from the hospital... I spent the next hour leading THEM through a bathing-the-baby learning session, and pounding home the fact that YES, urine is 'natural' and its component parts, ammonia and uric acid, are 'natural' and the uric acid will 'naturally' BURN YOUR NEWBORN SON'S SKIN -like THIS, MORONS!- unless you give him a 'natural' bath twice a day, okay? Promise?

I prayed they'd do it, but their combined IQ's probably came to 160...

re: #191 jcm
Thanks for the article. I'll have to print that out and read it tomorrow when I'm hopefully cognizant enough to remember that arsenic and cyanide are different things!

re: #225 Walter L. Newton

Here's a fresh Coors Light, since I live 2 miles from the brewery.

Is it true they use pure Rocky Mountain bear whiz?

re: #249 Karridine

And you didn't call Children's Aid?

re: #249 Karridine

Unfortunately, I've met too many people like that. They are scary.

re: #249 Karridine

Early in my practice, I had a couple of Flower Children come in, with their 8-day-old babe screaming in their arms.

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There were a lot of hippies where I grew up and its funny the thing I remember most about them is that their porches and lawns were always filled with crap and ditto their kids diapers, the former being from the dogs they never walked. Before I even knew the words child-abuse, I knew that was just wrong.

Remember this weird case in Las Vegas?

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

just got a guilty plea from the weirdo:
[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

Normal folks just don't go around making ricin or having vials of cyanide in their hotel rooms.

re: #249 Karridine

I study a few years back out of one of the Nordic countries looked at babies of vegans being raised vegan (not even mothers milk). By age six the kids brains were underdeveloped. Babies and kids need fats and lots of protein for development. Vegan may be okay to maintain an adult but for a developing brain? Nope, they need at least milk, if not more.

Normal folks just don't go around making ricin or having vials of cyanide in their hotel rooms.

The operative word her is NORMAL

The final blow was the loss of the northern quarter of the county, populated by a lot of affluent white people. The affluent whites were tired of receiving no attention by my employer, and voted for succession from the county a month ago. They are creating the "City of Dunwoody" out of North DeKalb and will elect their government next month. What really infuriated me was that we received word from the commissioners four months ago to consider Dunwoody a done deal and start planning for county operations independent of Dunwoody. All the county had to do was go up to Dunwoody, hold about 4 or 5 town-hall meetings and ask Dunwoody citizens what the heck they wanted out of the county, and then the county to provide the services. My employer could not find it in themselves to provide even that basic function to a significant element of its population.
I am volunteering my knowledge of North DeKalb infrastructure and government to assist setting up the "City of Dunwoody". I hope to get a new job and employer out of the deal. Plus it will really be interesting to participate in forming a new government. Interesting times are ahead for me!

re: #256 jcm

I study a few years back out of one of the Nordic countries looked at babies of vegans being raised vegan (not even mothers milk). By age six the kids brains were underdeveloped. Babies and kids need fats and lots of protein for development. Vegan may be okay to maintain an adult but for a developing brain? Nope, they need at least milk, if not more.

About 10 years ago, I was at a gathering where some doctors were talking about this subject. The high-carb/low-fat diet craze that started in the 80s created a lot of unintentional monsters who severely limited their young children's intake of fat. The kids didn't fare well at all, but the parents refused to believe it was because it was the diet at fault.

re: #213 Shiplord Kirel

It's certainly convenient that the Dem convention is being staged so close to LGF World Headquarters.

I had recently played a video game that had a reference to an "incident" in the secret, underground "facilities" at DIA. I thought "Hey, that's where Charles lives".

So I searched the net to see what was out there, and WOW! A whole lot of kooky. I thought I had heard all the conspiracy crap before, but this was a new one on me.

re: #258 loflyer

Congrats, and I'd want to leave DeKalb County too.

What's up with the folks who want to go back to having Milton County instead of just being lumped in with Fulton?

re: #259 mossley

About 10 years ago, I was at a gathering where some doctors were talking about this subject. The high-carb/low-fat diet craze that started in the 80s created a lot of unintentional monsters who severely limited their young children's intake of fat. The kids didn't fare well at all, but the parents refused to believe it was because it was the diet at fault.

I last foster care placement we had trouble getting the 14 mo old girl to eat. We sent a note pinned to her clothes when she visited mom, next visit we get a bag with what she liked.

Cheetos and fruit loops.

re: #260 Slumbering Behemoth

I had recently played a video game that had a reference to an "incident" in the secret, underground "facilities" at DIA. I thought "Hey, that's where Charles lives".

So I searched the net to see what was out there, and WOW! A whole lot of kooky. I thought I had heard all the conspiracy crap before, but this was a new one on me.

Any chance we can activate some of our LGF cells working out of DIA to provide us coverage of the convention?

C'mon now - Y'all know the dems are an inclusive, big tent, party that supports
under-served foreign nationals. The gentleman in the hotel room was merely the advance team for the Guyana delegation.

Gallatin

re: #240 tokyobk

Back in my flesh devouring days I ate kangaroo. Quite lean and tasty if I remember correctly.

Much like NZ where the Maori ate the Moa into extinction, which resulted in the extinction of the Haast Eagle, which is a bummer coz that bird was one mightly impressive beasty with a wingspan of up to 3 metres and weighing 15 kg

re: #261 funky chicken

Congrats, and I'd want to leave DeKalb County too.

What's up with the folks who want to go back to having Milton County instead of just being lumped in with Fulton?

People want representation, as soon as the local governments are minority (local majority) dominated, the majority (local minority) is ignored and used as tax generators. Its called racism and I am damned tired of it.

re: #263 loflyer

Any chance we can activate some of our LGF cells working out of DIA to provide us coverage of the convention?

They're close to making a breakthrough on their mind control device so, no. They're just too darn busy at the moment.
/

Another case of incipient spontaneous combustion by a member of the global Bahai conspiracy? He probably was an artist preparing to create a bronze sculpture colored blue for peace. Sure that's the ticket. Nothing to see here, you can just Move On.

re: #262 jcm

I last foster care placement we had trouble getting the 14 mo old girl to eat. We sent a note pinned to her clothes when she visited mom, next visit we get a bag with what she liked.

Cheetos and fruit loops.

Reminds me of my cousin, who didn't understand why everyone got upset when she gave her baby Pepsi to drink. Of course, this is the same woman who couldn't understand why her son had terrible nightmares when he was around four. And they always happened after she let him watch slasher horror films with her.

re: #269 mossley

Reminds me of my cousin, who didn't understand why everyone got upset when she gave her baby Pepsi to drink. Of course, this is the same woman who couldn't understand why her son had terrible nightmares when he was around four. And they always happened after she let him watch slasher horror films with her.

*sigh*
Our foster kids get a shock, home cooked food, no junk, no fast food.
Very limited TV, Thomas and Little People.

re: #267 Slumbering Behemoth

They're close to making a breakthrough on their mind control device so, no. They're just too darn busy at the moment.
/

Mind control is even more important than the Democrat convention. Hopefully LGF can neutralize the MSM control nodes.