History will remember him better than those who denigrate him. A flawed man, but the right man for the hour.

And God bless President Bush!

Thank you, Sir, for keeping our country safe the last 7 years.

Whatever happened to all the loonies that claimed the Pentagon was not struck by a jet? Are they still around?

Gee Navy Whites look good. To bad there so tought to keep clean!

Good to see Rummy.

re: #3 Desert Dog

Whatever happened to all the loonies that claimed the Pentagon was not struck by a jet? Are they still around?

Have you checked the faculty lounge at Columbia University?

I don't agree with GWB on many issues. But I do respect him. And I appreciate that the responsibilities of the office have aged him, and may well have shortend his life. But that is his gift to his country.

God Bless America!
I still love George W. Bush! He has kept us safe since 9/11/01 and fought not only the terrorists but as had to fight the demonrats and the drivebys.
He will go down in history as a Great President.

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

Looks like a Kaki Uniform

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

looks like a marine

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No, that's a khaki shirt. Looks like a Marine.

re: #10 Nevergiveup

Looks like a Kaki Uniform

And he is wearing a garrison covering

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'd guess that's a Marine in a khaki shirt. Note the hat.

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

You're seeing things.

re: #8 newsjunkie_ky

God Bless America!
I still love George W. Bush! He has kept us safe since 9/11/01 and fought not only the terrorists but as had to fight the demonrats and the drivebys.
He will go down in history as a Great President.

Amen. He kept us safe. Restored our confidence with the double economic whammy of the tech bubble and 9/11. He's done well and history will be kind.

re: #3 Desert Dog

I'm sure they're still around. Lurking in the shadows and pushing their conspiracy nonsense on the Internet. Look hard enough and you can find them.

I'm heartened not by the President speaking, but by the resoluteness apparent on the faces of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who are standing silent guard next to the benches representing each of the victims at the Pentagon.

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

you need to stop "celebrating your victory" so early :-)

Never forget. Not now, not ever. Requiem eternam dona eis domine et lux perpetua luceat eis. And payback to the bastards who carried it out.

Wow - the Marines have great camouflage - you can't even tell they're wearing it!

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

Your subconscious betrays you. You devil you.

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

Well now we know where your mind is, BD_VM!
/Giving you a hard time

re: #14 mikalm

I'd guess that's a Marine in a khaki shirt. Note the hat.

Could be Navy. They've recently adopted a uniform similar to the USMC service uniforms.

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Could be Navy. They've recently adopted a uniform similar to the USMC service uniforms.

Our hate is not that dark

re: #20 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Wow - the Marines have great camouflage - you can't even tell they're wearing it!

There was an article in National Geographic a while back about the "invisible camoflauge" the military is working on. Cool stuff.

Next BDVM will be telling us that among the crowd he sees a construction worker, a cop, and an Indian chief.

re: #26 Occasional Reader

You mean you don't?

Has the guy kneeling on the bottom right got a gun drawn?

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Could be Navy. They've recently adopted a uniform similar to the USMC service uniforms.

I guess the rest of the Navy shops at the Men's Department, too. ;)

re: #28 cyclosarin

Has the guy kneeling on the bottom right got a gun drawn?

The one on the grassy Knoll?

re: #3 Desert Dog

Whatever happened to all the loonies that claimed the Pentagon was not struck by a jet? Are they still around?

yes

re: #24 Nevergiveup

Our hate is not that dark

Looks plenty dark enough according to this

The Pentagon bureaucracy was able to get its memorial up, but NYC still flounders. Government in NYC is the worst in the nation.

re: #10 Nevergiveup

Looks like a Kaki Uniform

class A's

re: #28 cyclosarin

Has the guy kneeling on the bottom right got a gun drawn?

He's shooting, but I don't think it's a gun.

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

That looks like a Marine in Khakis'.

I say, the hell with camouflage, if we're going to run an "empire" (like the left says we are) our guys need bright red uniforms for easy visibility.

re: #15 newsjunkie_ky

You're seeing things.

Though some Lizards of the fairer gender may be engaging in wishful thinking.

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Next BDVM will be telling us that among the crowd he sees a construction worker, a cop, and an Indian chief.

Heh. When I was in basic, they had a big Fourth of July party at the base (Ft. Knox). YMCA was playing & as I got up to start dancing, the meanest, most grizzly-looking DI I ever saw came up to me & said "If you start dancing to this Village People crap I will kick you out of this man's Army!" I quickly walked away in the opposite direction, where I noticed a DI from my company leading a platoon of cadets in the YMCA dance.

On Rush he just said that dems want to stop talking about "lipstick" so he said okay we will go back to --- and then he played the Rev. Wright clip on "roosters coming home to roost" -- I think we should not forget what church Obama sat in for 20 years and this day of all days we need to remember how his church of 20 years felt about 9/11.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Next BDVM will be telling us that among the crowd he sees a construction worker, a cop, and an Indian chief.

But where's Waldo?

Did someone say naked Marines?

/sorry, I know it is a solemn occasion

re: #37 Occasional Reader

I say, the hell with camouflage, if we're going to run an "empire" (like the left says we are) our guys need bright red uniforms for easy visibility.

I say we split the difference. Half our guys wear bright red. Then when the enemy is busy attack them, the other half in cammies ambushes the shit out of them.

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Looks plenty dark enough according to this

did you see the 11 yr old girl on there.
not dark at all. kinda good.

re: #39 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

But the question remains, did you dance to "In the Navy?"

MPACUK claims 9/11 to call for revenge for Israeli atrocities......
The Septembers of Our Lives

An event took place, almost twenty years before 9/11, an event that took more lives, an event that was just as barbaric, but was instantly forgotten, never to take a place in our collective consciousness. A truth which is rarely mentioned in the Septembers of our lives.

For three days in September 1982, Israeli forces in collusion with the Lebanese Christain Phalangist Militia’s, slaughtered, raped and maimed a large number of unarmed civilians inside the encircled and sealed Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila in Beirut, Lebanon. More than three thousand five hundred innocent men, women and children were massacred.
.....
As those responsible for the crimes against humanity perpetrated against the citizens of New York and Washington are being pursued across the world into the seventh year of the ever expanding “war against terror”, one has to ask oneself why is it that “American Imperialism” has been allowed to seek its revenge against the rest of the world, yet no one can be bought to justice over Septembers other atrocities?

re: #39 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

the meanest, most grizzly-looking DI I ever saw came up to me & said "If you start dancing to this Village People crap I will kick you out of this man's Army!"

In the Occasional Reader administration, that man (I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume it was a man) will be Secretary of Defense.

re: #37 Occasional Reader

I say, the hell with camouflage, if we're going to run an "empire" (like the left says we are) our guys need bright red uniforms for easy visibility.

Nonononono - this is the uniform you need for running an empire!

No word from CAIR today?

re: #2 Sharmuta

And God bless President Bush!

Thank you, Sir, for keeping our country safe the last 7 years.

The kook fringe maintain there is "no war" on terror because there is no existing threat of terrorism - in case you didn't know

re: #4 Nevergiveup

Gee Navy Whites look good. To bad there so tought to keep clean!

Marine dress blues are much nicer on the Marines.

re: #44 Eowyn2

did you see the 11 yr old girl on there.
not dark at all. kinda good.

Apparently the linked imaged did not work :P

Do a search for "Navy Service Uniform" and you'll see the new navy uniform is almost identical to the USMC Service uniform, using a deep blue/black instead of the green the Marines use.

re: #50 wright1

In there minds there was no terrorism problem on September 10, 2001 either.

re: #46 Killgore Trout

I don't think this distraction plays well for them.

Are we allowed to use the word Jihad today? I wouldn't want to offend anyone.

re: #53 Desert Dog

In there their minds there was no terrorism problem on September 10, 2001 either.

Oops, PIMF

re: #45 Silhouette

But the question remains, did you dance to "In the Navy?"

I can remember wayyy back in the early 80s, switching on the TV to a Bob Hope USO (I think) show at a Navy facility somewhere, and much to my astonishment they had The Village People as invited musical guests, to perform... you guessed which song.

re: #33 quickjustice

The Pentagon bureaucracy was able to get its memorial up, but NYC still flounders. Government in NYC is the worst in the nation.

NYC is a different story - and it's more than just rebuilding the Pentagon, which was partially damaged and a section completely rebuilt within 9 months.

It took nearly that long to remove all the debris from Ground Zero. It took 18 months or more to restore the PATH and 1/9 lines that snake through Ground Zero.

They had to contemplate new designs and what to rebuild, where, and how. The bickering took several years, but the designs are pretty much set, and construction is in fact underway within the Pit.

The Freedom Tower foundations are well underway. The transit hub, memorial, and museum all have steel rising within the Pit.

It's not quick enough, and I've been as big a critic as any while chronicling the rebuilding process at Ground Zero. I've referred to it as a battle (for 240+ postings) for good reason.

OT:
Just want folks to know that Troofers are busy chanting 9/11 is an inside job at the corner of Broadway and Park Row across from the St. Paul's Chapel. There's a crowd of several hundred of these idiots and the chanting is loud enough you can hear it at my office.

re: #57 Occasional Reader

I can remember wayyy back in the early 80s, switching on the TV to a Bob Hope USO (I think) show at a Navy facility somewhere, and much to my astonishment they had The Village People as invited musical guests, to perform... you guessed which song.

That is wrong on so many levels

re: #46 Killgore Trout

MPACUK claims 9/11 to call for revenge for Israeli atrocities......
The Septembers of Our Lives

I dont see anything about the School in Breslan in that piece on September.

Is his source another Hamas/Hezbollah photographer.

re: #49 Killgore Trout

I'm sure they're working on an extremely offensive communique this very instant.

God Bless America
God Bless All Our Troops (especially the Marines)
And God Bless George W. Bush

re: #49 Killgore Trout

No word from CAIR today?

As far as I am concerned, CAIR can STFU.

I am currently living in S. Africa and rely on CNN for current MSM. Have been home from work for 2 hours and have not seen ONE tribute/report on 9 11. What asshat. Thanks Charles for your site. I have been in a shit mood all day. NEVER FORGET!

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

11 yr old girl field stripped a rifle in less than a minute. new record etc.
things looking pretty bright:)

Does anyone have a link to the memorial, so I could get more pictures, etc?

And does anyone know what ever happened with the Flight 93 memorial red cresent?

re: #37 Occasional Reader

I say, the hell with camouflage, if we're going to run an "empire" (like the left says we are) our guys need bright red uniforms for easy visibility.

When it comes to blendind in with your surroundings, nothing beats a Zouve uniform! Maybe a Polish Hussar.

re: #58 lawhawk

Water balloons.

re: #67 WrathofG-d

Here:
[Link: memorial.pentagon.mil...]

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Apparently the linked imaged did not work :P

Do a search for "Navy Service Uniform" and you'll see the new navy uniform is almost identical to the USMC Service uniform, using a deep blue/black instead of the green the Marines use.

That's the new "working" uniform for enlisted

re: #70 Dianna

Water balloons.

I like it. SuperSoakers would be good too.

re: #60 Eowyn2

Beslan is also forgotten, evidently.

re: #49 Killgore Trout

No word from CAIR today?

Fuck CAIR.

I would really like to ask Obama this day unequivocally, was 9/11 an inside job? And if he says "no "-will he declare that a large part of his kook fringe constituency including the Kos Kooks believe that it was? Will you Sir, tell them once and for all that they are WRONG? I think O'Reilly forgot that question.

re: #64 buzzsawmonkey

Bizarre though that is, it does not come close to seeing all the guests at a bar mitzvah, young and old, dancing to "YMCA."

I once single handedly got an entire bus load of Marines to sing Third Eye Blind "How's it going to be". I consider it to be one of the high points of my time in the Corps.

re: #48 yma o hyd

Nonononono - this is the uniform you need for running an empire!

But they need to replace those crappy rifles with the EM-2 fitted with state of the art sights.

EM-2 in action

New header. Refresh to see.

re: #70 Dianna

Water balloons.

Filled with urine?

re: #67 WrathofG-d

Does anyone have a link to the memorial, so I could get more pictures, etc?

And does anyone know what ever happened with the Flight 93 memorial red cresent?

Arizona "Tribute" to 9-11 I still cannot believe they erected this POS in my state.....nothing about the victims or the heroics of the firefighters and cops that died that day..nothing. It's more of a tribute to the terrorists and political correctness......what a joke

Meanwhile the cretin Keith Olbermann says that the GOP has hijacked 9/11.

I would have thought that someone hijacked Olbermann's brain, but there was never anything to take in the first place. /it's deep and I don't think it's playable.

re: #66 Eowyn2

11 yr old girl field stripped a rifle in less than a minute. new record etc.
things looking pretty bright:)

But can she clean it and reassemble it?

re: #79 maddogg

New header. Refresh to see.

That's beautiful.

re: #78 The Other Les

But they need to replace those crappy rifles with the EM-2 fitted with state of the art sights.

EM-2 in action

Crappy rifles? The armed forces of Nepal, Jamaica & Zimbabwe beg to differ!

re: #79 maddogg

New header. Refresh to see.

Gorgeous!

re: #79 maddogg

Great header Charles. Keep it.

re: #80 MandyManners

Filled with FLAMING urine?

that sounds better

re: #82 lawhawk

Meanwhile the cretin Keith Olbermann says that the GOP has hijacked 9/11.

I would have thought that someone hijacked Olbermann's brain, but there was never anything to take in the first place. /it's deep and I don't think it's playable.

Even Nancy Pelosi does not want to drill that brain

Charles, nice header. It might be good to use it everyday.

re: #19 Wild Knight

Like the Latin. Ditto on the message.

CHARLES - thank you SO MUCH for putting the American Flag and the ghostly images of the World Trade Center on the LGF header today.
Thank you.

Beautiful header Charles. Thank you.

I just received Sept 15 issue of National Review. It contains a 1 hour ( Pre-Release One Hour Edition) DVD of the movie Obsession, Radical Islam's War Against the West.

Very cool

re: #64 buzzsawmonkey

Bizarre though that is, it does not come close to seeing all the guests at a bar mitzvah, young and old, dancing to "YMCA."

What? You see some sort of conflict between a religious coming-of-age ceremony, and a song about meeting adolescent homosexuals in a public gymnasium?

/prude

re: #4 Nevergiveup

Gee Navy Whites look good. To bad there so tought to keep clean!

They sure do! That being said, in 2 plus years active, I only had to wear them once!

re: #85 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Crappy rifles? The armed forces of Nepal, Jamaica & Zimbabwe beg to differ!

Perhaps I haven't been keeping up. I heard that British infantrymen were complaining rather loudly aobut them.

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

That's a Marine. Now drop and give me twenty!

re: #9 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Am I seeing things, or does the photographer in the lower right not have a shirt on?

Looks like an Army tan uniform.

So what new public relations items are new and just in time for 9/11 at CAIR? Muslims discover their funny bone? Or, taqiyah...see, we're just like you!

Although the live tour, upon which the film is based, was conceptualized long before 2001, the acts of 9/11 could not help but influence the acts of “Allah Made Me Funny” trio Azhar Usman, Mo Amer and Preacher Moss. Living as Muslims in post-9/11 America has been a tricky predicament, not to mention figuring out how, as Muslims, to respond to the confusion that’s flooded the country since.

“I don’t want the film or our comedy to be confused as an emotional response to 9/11,” says Preacher Moss, an African-American convert to Islam. “By bringing our brand of humor to diverse audiences, we’re offering an accessible and mainstream effort to deal with questions the public might have about Muslims and Islam while giving Muslim Americans the much-needed chance to hear from each other and laugh at themselves.”

Featuring music of rising indie scene artists, “Allah Made Me Funny: Live in Concert” gives people of all cultural backgrounds an opportunity to laugh hard, drop their guard, and open their minds.

“The time for breakout Muslim comedians is now,” says Kronemer. “With their fresh take on humor, the men of ‘Allah Made Me Funny’ can connect with anyone who loves a laugh. Today, they're the ideal trailblazers to defy prejudice and foster goodwill through comedy."

re: #96 tommygum

They sure do! That being said, in 2 plus years active, I only had to wear them once!

How did you manage to shit can all the ceremonial crap?

re: #6 Occasional Reader

Have you checked the faculty lounge at Columbia University?

Or the "green room" at MSNBC?

re: #8 newsjunkie_ky
Wonderful post, thank you and AMEN!

re: #92 realwest

CHARLES - thank you SO MUCH for putting the American Flag and the ghostly images of the World Trade Center on the LGF header today.
Thank you.

Agreed, thanks Charles!

re: #68 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When it comes to blendind in with your surroundings, nothing beats a Zouve uniform! Maybe a Polish Hussar.

I say, no military uniform is complete without bright, eye-catching colors, bedroom slippers, and a large dunce cap.

re: #67 WrathofG-d

Does anyone have a link to the memorial, so I could get more pictures, etc?

And does anyone know what ever happened with the Flight 93 memorial red cresent?

Here is the Park Mgmt page on the flight 93 memorial.

The header is a gem, Charles. Thanks for that.

/Now returning to regular discourse.

re: #97 The Other Les

Perhaps I haven't been keeping up. I heard that British infantrymen were complaining rather loudly aobut them.

Maybe I should have put a sarcasm tag there - I figured that just mentioning the Jamaican Army would be enough to show that I meant that post in jest.

re: #97 The Other Les

Perhaps I haven't been keeping up. I heard that British infantrymen were complaining rather loudly aobut them.

And I still think an EM-2 with a current issue optical sight would be really neat.

(Neater than a digital watch in fact.)

re: #97 The Other Les

They got Heckler & Koch to upgrade them and now they're pretty good weapons. The poor reputation has stuck, though, much like the M16.

re: #105 Occasional Reader

I say, no military uniform is complete without bright, eye-catching colors, bedroom slippers, and a large dunce cap.

You forgot their most fearsome weapon - the giant wooden spoon! (no joke)

I want this on a bumper sticker.

Header is AWESOME!

re: #83 The Other Les

But can she clean it and reassemble it?

She did reassemble it, and very quickly.

re: #46 Killgore Trout

MPACUK claims 9/11 to call for revenge for Israeli atrocities......
The Septembers of Our Lives

why is it that “American Imperialism” has been allowed to seek its revenge against the rest of the world, yet no one can be bought to justice over Septembers other atrocities?

It likely has something to do with the validity of the claim.

Just as serious, but OFF TOPIC:

U.S. Ambassador to Israel states that Israel has been negotiating to re-divide Jerusalem!

So how else can this Israeli Government screw up? Olmert wants to actually give the Russian Compound (17 square Miles in Israel) to Moscow!

Is there any part of Israel that Olmert actually wants to hold on to?

re: #8 newsjunkie_ky

God Bless America!
I still love George W. Bush! He has kept us safe since 9/11/01 and fought not only the terrorists but as had to fight the demonrats and the drivebys.
He will go down in history as a Great President.

I thank G*d every night for the gift of his leadership. I shudder to think of how America would be had he lost.

re: #82 lawhawk

Meanwhile the cretin Keith Olbermann says that the GOP has hijacked 9/11.

I would have thought that someone hijacked Olbermann's brain, but there was never anything to take in the first place. /it's deep and I don't think it's playable.

Where does he get that stuff from? He is blaming Bush and Republicans for 9-11. Fair enough, Keith, but what about your buttbuddy Clinton? He is the one that did nothing those 8 long years he was in charge while the same guys that blew up the twin towers and crashed into the Pentagon hit American targets over and over and over.

Great Header, let's keep it up for a while. Thank you for bringing the flag into my office today.

re: #117 WrathofG-d

Just as serious, but OFF TOPIC:

U.S. Ambassador to Israel states that Israel has been negotiating to re-divide Jerusalem!

So how else can this Israeli Government screw up? Olmert wants to actually give the Russian Compound (17 square Miles in Israel) to Moscow!

Is there any part of Israel that Olmert actually wants to hold on to?

Only his job

re: #111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You forgot their most fearsome weapon - the giant wooden spoon! (no joke)

You've never been on the receiving end of a Mandy *whack*?
Fear the wooden spoon!

re: #117 WrathofG-d

Just as serious, but OFF TOPIC:

U.S. Ambassador to Israel states that Israel has been negotiating to re-divide Jerusalem!

So how else can this Israeli Government screw up? Olmert wants to actually give the Russian Compound (17 square Miles in Israel) to Moscow!

Is there any part of Israel that Olmert actually wants to hold on to?

The very small territory between his legs?

re: #108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe I should have put a sarcasm tag there - I figured that just mentioning the Jamaican Army would be enough to show that I meant that post in jest.

I would think that a Gurkha trooper in Nepal wouldn't put up with a crappy weapon if he could complain to his political representative about it.

I respect President Bush for his courage and conviction in the global war on terror. Every President makes mistakes, especially in the time of war, but I believe Bush will one day become one of our most famous Presidents in history.

I'll never forget 9/11 and you can bet your bottom dollar Bush won't either. His speech at the National Cathedral really moved me. About 3:40 in he said that America will rid the world of evil, and we're sure off to one hell of a start. I'm proud to be an American.

oh and by the way, Guck Foogle and Euck Furope too!

re: #58 lawhawk

NYC is a different story - and it's more than just rebuilding the Pentagon, which was partially damaged and a section completely rebuilt within 9 months.

It took nearly that long to remove all the debris from Ground Zero. It took 18 months or more to restore the PATH and 1/9 lines that snake through Ground Zero.

They had to contemplate new designs and what to rebuild, where, and how. The bickering took several years, but the designs are pretty much set, and construction is in fact underway within the Pit.

The Freedom Tower foundations are well underway. The transit hub, memorial, and museum all have steel rising within the Pit.

It's not quick enough, and I've been as big a critic as any while chronicling the rebuilding process at Ground Zero. I've referred to it as a battle (for 240+ postings) for good reason.

OT:
Just want folks to know that Troofers are busy chanting 9/11 is an inside job at the corner of Broadway and Park Row across from the St. Paul's Chapel. There's a crowd of several hundred of these idiots and the chanting is loud enough you can hear it at my office.

firehose available?

re: #113 Fat Jolly Penguin

I want this on a bumper sticker.

Palin, McCain to spend more time together than apart: aide

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

When you got a good thing going.......

re: #80 MandyManners

No.

Think of the innocent by-standers and passers-by. re: #94 Dasher

I just received Sept 15 issue of National Review. It contains a 1 hour ( Pre-Release One Hour Edition) DVD of the movie Obsession, Radical Islam's War Against the West.

Very cool

I've got it, too. It was inside the Chronicle of Higher Education.

re: #110 joncelli

They got Heckler & Koch to upgrade them and now they're pretty good weapons. The poor reputation has stuck, though, much like the M16.

Okay.

re: #113 Fat Jolly Penguin

Holy Lipstick, Sarah!

re: #119 Desert Dog

Where does he get that stuff from? He is blaming Bush and Republicans for 9-11. Fair enough, Keith, but what about your buttbuddy Clinton? He is the one that did nothing those 8 long years he was in charge while the same guys that blew up the twin towers and crashed into the Pentagon hit American targets over and over and over.

When you have BDS, the ability to reason simply becomes an impossibility

re: #112 buzzsawmonkey

And in an institution founded by a different religion, yet. Don't forget that.

Maybe that's the escape clause, so to speak.

re: #122 jcm

You've never been on the receiving end of a Mandy *whack*?
Fear the wooden spoon!

You said it!

[Link: www.blastwavecomic.com...]

I'm getting to where I wish they would just build the towers back exactly as they were... obviously high tech methods, but the same look and feel in the skyline. They can use the plaza for memorializing and whatever floors they want for a museum. Have you guys ever visited the presidential libraries around the country? They are fabulous teaching tools (I've taken the kids to several) for each time span. That's what we need in the Twin Towers exhibit... the decade before with the build up of the radicals and then what we've done since. Having the look of the towers restored would send a very big message that we won't be intimidated. Even if they have trouble getting tenants, I'd like to see the towers right back to normal.

Charles, You are a Great American. And I am so proud to be a member of LGF.

re: #29 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I guess the rest of the Navy shops at the Men's Department, too. ;)

Heeeeeeey, I resemble that remark!

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The very small territory between his legs?

Speaking of territory between the legs.

[Link: www.somethingpositive.net...]

Hey, OBL!

re: #136 tommygum

Heeeeeeey, I resemble that remark!

I hate to admit it, but I miss bell bottoms ...

re: #121 Creeping Eruption

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

OT still:

What amazes me the most is the the Israeli public hasn't revolted against Olmert yet. [deleted so as to not violate LGF rule 4]. Could you imagine what would happen if the President of the United States agreed with AQ to give them 1/2 of Washington D.C., and hand over N.Y. to Saudi Arabia? This actually has a religious context too, which would make you think that the offense woudl be considered worse. I can only guess, from being thier often, that the Israelis just don't know about it. Shame!

re: #81 Desert Dog

Arizona "Tribute" to 9-11 I still cannot believe they erected this POS in my state.....nothing about the victims or the heroics of the firefighters and cops that died that day..nothing. It's more of a tribute to the terrorists and political correctness......what a joke

The streaming-audio was interesting.

re: #128 Dianna

No.

Think of the innocent by-standers and passers-by. re: #94 Dasher

I've got it, too. It was inside the Chronicle of Higher Education.

I wasn't thinking!

re: #140 WrathofG-d

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

OT still:

What amazes me the most is the the Israeli public hasn't revolted against Olmert yet. [deleted so as to not violate LGF rule 4]. Could you imagine what would happen if the President of the United States agreed with AQ to give them 1/2 of Washington D.C., and hand over N.Y. to Saudi Arabia? This actually has a religious context too, which would make you think that the offense woudl be considered worse. I can only guess, from being thier often, that the Israelis just don't know about it. Shame!

There are parts of NY and DC I wouldn't mind giving away?

re: #114 cblesz

Header is AWESOME!

It's beautiful.

re: #142 MandyManners

I understand - sometimes, it's tough to remember that civilization requires thinking more broadly than we want to.

re: #140 WrathofG-d

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

OT still:

What amazes me the most is the the Israeli public hasn't revolted against Olmert yet. [deleted so as to not violate LGF rule 4]. Could you imagine what would happen if the President of the United States agreed with AQ to give them 1/2 of Washington D.C., and hand over N.Y. to Saudi Arabia? This actually has a religious context too, which would make you think that the offense woudl be considered worse. I can only guess, from being thier often, that the Israelis just don't know about it. Shame!

Wrath - There are "modern" people everywhere who still think if we can just be nice enough, they'll like us or at least not constantly try to murder us. Even in our schools, the bullies are coddled. I wish it would work, but we are sacrificing the lives of Israelis and even kids bullied in U.S. schools to the benefit of jerks.

re: #73 Honorary Yooper

I like it. SuperSoakers would be good too.

Filled with chlorine bleach, or at least a bleach solution, to mess up their black t-shirts.

re: #110 joncelli

They got Heckler & Koch to upgrade them and now they're pretty good weapons. The poor reputation has stuck, though, much like the M16.

I recall that at least as late as Gulf War I, the SAS eschewed the standar issue Brit rifle in favor of the M-16. Does anyone know if this is still the case?

re: #1 joncelli

I'll second that.

re: #99 rawmuse

Looks like an Army tan uniform.

I don't know why, but it says "Marine" to me. The new Navy hats are navy, but that one looks green.

re: #81 Desert Dog

Arizona "Tribute" to 9-11 I still cannot believe they erected this POS in my state.....nothing about the victims or the heroics of the firefighters and cops that died that day..nothing. It's more of a tribute to the terrorists and political correctness......what a joke

re: #146 Sunlight

well call me "unmoder" if you will, but I'd rather the entire world hate us (Jews) and hold on to 100% of Jerusalem.

Furthermore, who in the world hands over parts in the middle of their country to another soverign nation?

Usually I'd accept the "people think this will bring peace" argument; as I've heard it enough to understand, but this really is overboard, that excuse is no longer valid. It truly is mindboggling...Olmert [deleated so as not to violate LGF rule #4].

Work beckons BBL

re: #152 turn

WTF happened to my comment?

Something to the effect Arizona should have named it the Blame America Memorial .. disgusting.

re: #152 turn

I'm shocked that the thing is still there. Maybe one of these days, when Napolitano is gone, it will be replaced.

re: #143 Nevergiveup
Hey!

There are parts of NY and DC I wouldn't mind giving away?

for Shame! Those parts are all up and coming neighborhoods, thanks to the efforts of the community organizers - just ask 'em!

re: #155 turn

WTF happened to my comment?

Something to the effect Arizona should have named it the Blame America Memorial .. disgusting.

It looks like a giant shit hole on the ground.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

OT Cont:

I couldn't find a link at the moment but Olmert is also negotiating to give Syria the Golan Heights.

Even if you only looks at this from a strategic point-of-view (not a rational, nationalist, religious, or historical one), you have to be sick to their stomach.

These deals when they go though (as was .... [deleted so as if not to violate LGF rule Re: EoD] many years ago) will leave Russia controlling the center of Israel, Hamas controlling the South, Syria/Hiz'b'allah/Iran controlling the North, and the PLO controlling the East, and nature controlling the West (Mediterranean).

Just when I think Olmert and H'medinat cannot disappoint and shock me any further.....

re: #156 Ward Cleaver

I'm shocked that the thing is still there. Maybe one of these days, when Napolitano is gone, it will be replaced.

Maybe a run away bulldozer could be arranged.

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

Perhaps someone could fly a remote-controlled Piper Cub into it.

re: #161 jcm

Maybe a run away bulldozer could be arranged.

GMTA!

Anybody know the status of the Flight 93 memorial?

They were trying to build a giant crescent facing east.....much uproar.....then silence.

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

Perhaps someone could fly a remote-controlled Piper Cub into it.

It could be renovated using a backhoe.

re: #113 Fat Jolly Penguin

I want this on a bumper sticker.

Here you go:
Read my lipstick.

They have more stickers than you can shake a hockey stick at!

re: #162 jcm

GMTA!

Scrape that sucker off and recycle it.

re: #161 jcm
Geez, there's a GREAT IDEA! Any Az lizards out there taking notes?!
just kidding, Charles.

re: #158 Nevergiveup

It looks like a giant shit hole on the ground.

Is this the memorial that was flanked by trees in the shape of a crescent? Or do we have two memorials honoring the terrorists on our own soil?

re: #163 eschew_obfuscation

Anybody know the status of the Flight 93 memorial?

They were trying to build a giant crescent facing east.....much uproar.....then silence.

Here is the Park Mgmt Service page on that memorial

re: #168 NC State of Mind

Is this the memorial that was flanked by trees in the shape of a crescent? Or do we have two memorials honoring the terrorists on our own soil?

I was referencing this thing in Arizona.

As Kerri Walsh said after winning her gold medal match, thank you, Mr. President, for everything you do.

RIP all those who died that day, and who have kept me safe to post comments on blogs. Thank you.

re: #163 eschew_obfuscation

Anybody know the status of the Flight 93 memorial?

They were trying to build a giant crescent facing east.....much uproar.....then silence.

Well, I'm just happy the cross stays on the top of Mount Soledad.

re: #168 NC State of Mind
Great question! IIRC, we do indeed have two intended memorials to those terrorists in the works, though I heard that the angry, gun totin' Pennsylvanians are not having any of it and are INSISTING on a re-design.
WTF is wrong with the people who designed these things?

re: #165 angst

Here you go:
Read my lipstick.

They have more stickers than you can shake a hockey stick at!

HA!

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

You forget the infallible practice of bureaucracies: "Well, that didn't work, so let's do it some more!"

It's never easy to overcome the will to be stupid.

re: #83 The Other Les

But can she clean it and reassemble it?

I can clean and reassemble my 1927A1 in, oh, a day.

re: #174 realwest

Great question! IIRC, we do indeed have two intended memorials to those terrorists in the works, though I heard that the angry, gun totin' Pennsylvanians are not having any of it and are INSISTING on a re-design.
WTF is wrong with the people who designed these things?

They attended institutions of higher learning?

re: #169 reine.de.tout
Hi there! Uh, your link doesn't work for me, I just get a blank!

re: #169 reine.de.tout

Hey, reine
Is the wind kickin' up down your way?

re: #165 angst

Here you go:
Read my lipstick.

They have more stickers than you can shake a hockey stick at!

Nice! Thanks!

re: #88 Desert Dog

that sounds better

......with air-burst fuses......

re: #156 Ward Cleaver

I'm shocked that the thing is still there. Maybe one of these days, when Napolitano is gone, it will be replaced.

Last evening one of our local channels ran a "fact check" piece (not what you think) on McCain's claims about pork barrel spending.

They showed the 100% rating from the groups that monitor these things.
Then they pointed out he has requested about 26 million dollars on a couple of projects. The way the piece presented it, that is over the course of his career.
Then they pointed out the projects were not technically "pork barrel", since he submitted bills to be voted on, and in "pork barrel spending" categories, they would leave it to the viewer to decide.
Apparently, both bills passed.
I think one of the bills was that memorial, but I can't be sure without backtracking and checking. The other one was for funding a hospital in Arizona somewhere.

I'd like to point out in his favor that the design was not done at that point.
He did get the ball rolling for a "memorial", and it appeared to be a good faith effort at the time.

re: #169 reine.de.tout

Here is the Park Mgmt Service page on that memorial

WHOOPS! Wrong link, there!

re: #173 angst

Well, I'm just happy the cross stays on the top of Mount Soledad.

I'm with ya on that one!

re: #174 realwest

Great question! IIRC, we do indeed have two intended memorials to those terrorists in the works, though I heard that the angry, gun totin' Pennsylvanians are not having any of it and are INSISTING on a re-design.
WTF is wrong with the people who designed these things?

Yeah, no wonder these people are clinging to their religion and their guns when this crap is forced upon them.

We are all taking a bit of a break from the election today and that is a good thing I suppose, but my fear regarding the election is that there will be newer level of low that the media and other willing accomplices are going to sink to one day after the next. It is disheartening when the game is absolutely rigged.

re: #178 Nevergiveup
Uh, I think it would be more accurate to say they INTENDED to attend institutions of higher learning.
although, given the overall status of higher education these days, you could still be correct!

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

I heard on NPR today that they've decided to "plant more trees to make it look less like a crescent." And that someone was objecting because that would "focus the attention less on the actual point of impact."

I have said it before and I will say it again: I am sick of these damned "reflecting pool"-type phony memorials. I want to see heroic and/or allegorical statuary. I want the event commemorated clearly commemorated, not some wimpy park-like sward where people can mill around and moo about "reconciliation."

I like your attitude!

re: #89 wright1

Even Nancy Pelosi does not want to drill that brain

I'm sure anyone with a brain wouldn't want to drill Nancy Pelosi.

/sorry, I couldn't resist......

re: #162 jcm

My neighbor has a backhoe that will do the job nicely and he would do it for free

I see from RCP that McCain-Palin are getting traction in Pennsylvania,

re: #163 eschew_obfuscation

Anybody know the status of the Flight 93 memorial?

They were trying to build a giant crescent facing east.....much uproar.....then silence.

They're still doing it.

They changed the name from crescent to circle, but it is still a crescent, still facing Mecca.

re: #193 unreconstructed rebel

I see from RCP that McCain-Palin are getting traction in Pennsylvania,

But surprisingly losing some in Ohio

re: #58 lawhawk

OT:
Just want folks to know that Troofers are busy chanting 9/11 is an inside job at the corner of Broadway and Park Row across from the St. Paul's Chapel. There's a crowd of several hundred of these idiots and the chanting is loud enough you can hear it at my office.

If there really is a "brown note" this would be the time to use it.
Or maybe the appearance of some IDF members might get them to sh*t themselves.

re: #119 Desert Dog

Fair enough, Keith, but what about your buttbuddy Clinton?

He was busy - splooging.

re: #188 wright1
Well it is disheartening when the game is absolutely rigged, but then again it will make a McCain Palin victory all that much sweeter!

re: #173 angst

Well, I'm just happy the cross stays on the top of Mount Soledad.

Mount Soledad? I barely know her!
/rimshot

re: #193 unreconstructed rebel

I see from RCP that McCain-Palin are getting traction in Pennsylvania,

Well if the dems keep attacking guns, bibles. and women things are looking up I say!

re: #111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You forgot their most fearsome weapon - the giant wooden spoon! (no joke)

The wooden spoon was mom's most fearsome weapon.

re: #194 Silhouette

They're still doing it.

They changed the name from crescent to circle, but it is still a crescent, still facing Mecca.

That's.Just.Disgusting!

(but thanks for the answer!)

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

The real question for me is: What will happen when Olmert comes out of the secret meetings with Abbas already having signed something that give them 1/2 of Jerusalem?

What do we, or the Israelis do then? If we sit around silently, we will also be to blame.

I really am sick. Here we are after thousands of years in Gulus with Jerusalem finally in our possession. How many Jews have fought for this, how many Jews would have given thier lives to live in our time? How many Jews prayed and lived for this to happen? How many Jews throughout history have dreamed of this miracle? Sure we who have lived with this reality all our lives might take it for granted...but how can we forget that a renewed Jerusalem, in Jewish control has been the prayer and dream of the Jewish people since Aaron walked into Israel? What a true historical shame, and embarrassment if we are so currupt as a people that we do not see our place in history, and how blessed we are to live in these times. Only today, in the hedonistic, corrupt, Jewish society could this happen...even the Hellanist Jews kept Jerusalem.... If we give away this miracle, blessing and historical situation without a fight....we truly are going to be doomed again...and sadly, enough...we just might deserve it.

This would be the 1st time since the world began that Jews voluntarily gave away Jerusalem.[deleated...]

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

I heard on NPR today that they've decided to "plant more trees to make it look less like a crescent." And that someone was objecting because that would "focus the attention less on the actual point of impact."

I have said it before and I will say it again: I am sick of these damned "reflecting pool"-type phony memorials. I want to see heroic and/or allegorical statuary. I want the event commemorated clearly commemorated, not some wimpy park-like sward where people can mill around and moo about "reconciliation."

How about rebuilding the twin towers just as they were as Heroic and/or Allegorical Statuary........?

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

I heard on NPR today that they've decided to "plant more trees to make it look less like a crescent." And that someone was objecting because that would "focus the attention less on the actual point of impact."

I
have said it before and I will say it again: I am sick of these damned
"reflecting pool"-type phony memorials. I want to see heroic and/or
allegorical statuary. I want the event commemorated clearly
commemorated, not some wimpy park-like sward where people can mill
around and moo about "reconciliation."

Something made of aluminium, to remember the plane & of steel, to remember the resolve of the heroes of Flight 93

re: #198 buzzsawmonkey

And of course you are being intolerant if you point this out.

O.K......Let's be intollerant!

Why do we have to tolerate every sort of vulgarity?!

(rhetorical question not directed at you).

WaPo Editorial: "Victory in Anbar -- Though Iraq's future remains uncertain, one result of the war is in: A defeat for al-Qaeda in the Sunni heartland"
—Ace

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

When is someone gonna clue in the Democratic party?

re: #201 Nevergiveup

Well if the dems keep attacking guns, bibles. and women things are looking up I say!

Guns, Bibles, women - these are a few of my favorite things...

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

I heard on NPR today that they've decided to "plant more trees to make it look less like a crescent." And that someone was objecting because that would "focus the attention less on the actual point of impact."

I have said it before and I will say it again: I am sick of these damned "reflecting pool"-type phony memorials. I want to see heroic and/or allegorical statuary. I want the event commemorated clearly commemorated, not some wimpy park-like sward where people can mill around and moo about "reconciliation."

A statue of the passengers battering down the cockpit door with the foot cart? A good sculptor could make that look very powerful. Unfortunately, I think most of them today are moonbats.

Well all y'all I'm sorry to say that I have to leave to mush some lunch.
I hope you all have a very good day and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

And Charles - thanks again for the great header today!

re: #195 wright1

The Home page says they are tied. But dig this.

re: #194 Silhouette

They're still doing it.

They changed the name from crescent to circle, but it is still a crescent, still facing Mecca.

One thing I cannot stand in this country right now - why do we always have to find ways of not offending muslims? When are we going to start doing things to not offend Americans. I live near Shelbyville, TN where they did the whole Labor Day exchange thing and I was livid. When are we going to start realizing we do not need to always worry about who we are offending. I see so many women in Walmarts around this area in muslim dress shopping under signs in spanish and I am going crazy. I do not dislike these people as individuals but I beginning to hate that we think of Americans second when it comes to offending in this country.

re: #195 wright1

But surprisingly losing some in Ohio

Ohio: Mc=48 BHO=44
Georgia: Mc=52 BHO=39

re: #199 realwest

Well it is disheartening when the game is absolutely rigged, but then again it will make a McCain Palin victory all that much sweeter!

You have no idea - well, actually you do

re: #206 Sunlight

I vote yes, and higher by 100 feet.

Ojoe, Architect

re: #211 Kosh's Shadow

A statue of
the passengers battering down the cockpit door with the foot cart? A
good sculptor could make that look very powerful. Unfortunately, I
think most of them today are moonbats.

Not the girl I'm seeing - very talented bronze sculptress & photographer & a Republican (though she has to stay in the closet since she works in the arts world). I'll ask her if I can link to her websites next time I see her.

Google did not change their logo, unlike the atom smashing thing yesterday.

re: #211 Kosh's Shadow

A statue of the passengers battering down the cockpit door with the foot cart? A good sculptor could make that look very powerful. Unfortunately, I think most of them today are moonbats.

I like that image. Maybe we could commission a sculpture like that and put it up in some prominent place.

I like the nice memorial graphic/logo Google put up for 9/11

/NOT!

re: #205 WrathofG-d

I think any Jews who want a say in what Israel does would need to make aliyah and join in the process. People have to be convinced of a point of view. No violence. Then vote. We visited there two summers ago during the first week and a half of Leb II... and I now think that our job is to support Israel in whatever they figure out. They're fabulous and constantly under fire. Otherwise, we would need to go there and help (while sitting under rockets and watching for suicide bombers as they do).

re: #215 Halman

Ohio: Mc=48 BHO=44
Georgia: Mc=52 BHO=39

Not according to the recent Quinnipiac and also check Real Clear Politics - it is tightening in Ohio getting away from McCain if you believe the hype - which I am really surprised about because Palin should be a positive

re: #193 unreconstructed rebel

Gaining some in Michigan also.

re: #41 Tigger2005

But where's Waldo?

Oooh oooh new game...

"Where's Rove?"

It'll drive the lib press crazy!

re: #223 wright1

Not according to the recent Quinnipiac and also check Real Clear Politics - it is tightening in Ohio getting away from McCain if you believe the hype - which I am really surprised about because Palin should be a positive

Didn't Obama pull his campaign from a few states to concentrate on some other "battleground" ones?
If he did and "doubled" his efforts in, say, Ohio, the "polling results" make some sense to me.

re: #219 mattm

Google did not change their logo, unlike the atom smashing thing yesterday.

I am surprised we do not have a logo of a kresch (sp)

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mount Soledad? I barely know her!
/rimshot

Hahaha! Oh- wait- (feminist side kicks in) Boo! Hiss!

Actually, I rode up Mount Soledad (once) and I thought the cross was very fitting to mark the graves of all the other stupid bicyclists who tried it. Blew a tire off on the way down from over-heating the brakes. I'm sure Charles can relate to how lovely that felt. I didn't need microdermabrasion when I was 25.

re: #223 wright1

Not according to the recent Quinnipiac and also check Real Clear Politics - it is tightening in Ohio getting away from McCain if you believe the hype - which I am really surprised about because Palin should be a positive

I just can't believe that Quinnipiac poll to be that accurate (Obama +5) Especially with Rasmussen showing Mac +7 Monday. I'd put money on Rasmussen over Quinnipiac anyday.

re: #227 jwb7605

Didn't Obama pull his campaign from a few states to concentrate on some other "battleground" ones?
If he did and "doubled" his efforts in, say, Ohio, the "polling results" make some sense to me.

I think you are right and of course it is still very, very early

re: #224 Dahveed

I notice where RCP is not willing to stick their necks out on the swing states just yet, but the trends do look encouraging.

re: #225 buzzsawmonkey

If the Towers were to be rebuilt, I would like to see them resting on atlantes (the male version of caryatids) sculpted in the form of bowed and defeated jihadists.

My proposal for a 9/11 memorial is to have a plaza with 10-foot-high stainless steel scale models of the Towers after the second plane hit, with an eternal flame in each tower. Surrounding the Towers would be a terrazzo scale map of Lower Manhattan; the buildings immediately surrounding the Towers would be cast to scale in bronze, so that one could get an idea of how they dominated their surroundings. Any "reflecting pool" would be the waters of the East and the Hudson as they flowed around the Lower Manhattan map. There would be a pattern of bronze flakes in the terrazzo scattering towards the South and East to show where all the flaming wind-borne memos floated over Brooklyn.

Names of those killed would be inscribed on a retaining wall around the plaza.

That sounds good for the plaza. Then build back the buildings.

re: #211 Kosh's Shadow

That would just look cartooney. I agree however with the sentiment here thought that these weak, feminized, "we are victims" memorials have got to go when they are not appropriate. To me Flight 93 was not an instance where we were victims but quite the opposite; it was about American's standing-up to the Enemy and fighting back.

These memorials should uplift us when we see them, not bring us down.

re: #226 DaddyG

Oooh oooh new game...

"Where's Rove?"

It'll drive the lib press crazy!

Hehe! [Devilish grin]

re: #223 wright1

Not according to the recent Quinnipiac and also check Real Clear Politics - it is tightening in Ohio getting away from McCain if you believe the hype - which I am really surprised about because Palin should be a positive

I got my info from "Real Clear Politics".

Snarkalicious

re: #231 wright1

Polls are BS because:

1. they are not secret and the ballot is.

2. Poll questions can be phrased in tricky ways, the ballot is simple.

3. Polls come to you, you have to get off your behind to go vote.

4. Polls can be used to influence the election beforehand and the ballot cannot.

re: #195 wright1

au contraire my friend:

Another sneak peek from Strategic Vision, which will be releasing polls in Ohio and Georgia tomorrow. Both surveys were conducted from Sept. 7-9 with MoE's of 3.0%.

In Ohio, McCain leads Obama by four points, 48-44, with 2% for other candidates and 6% undecided. This is SV's first poll in Ohio.

In Georgia, McCain is ahead of Obama by thirteen points, 52-39, with 3% for Barr and 6% undecided. Obama has dropped four points and McCain added one point since SV's last poll in Georgia at the end of June.

[Link: time-blog.com...]

re: #184 NomadOfNorad

WHOOPS! Wrong link, there!

Yep it is, isn't it lol.

Let me try again. Here.

re: #227 jwb7605

Didn't Obama pull his campaign from a few states to concentrate on some other "battleground" ones?
If he did and "doubled" his efforts in, say, Ohio, the "polling results" make some sense to me.

Ohio is ripe for voter fraud with the same day registration and early voting. ACORN is planning on bringing their people to the polls on buses, etc. I think I read somewhere that the RNC is asking for volunteers to go to Ohio to help with voter fraud, etc. I have family in the Columbus area and things are winding down on my farm so I may check into helping out in Ohio.

re: #233 Sunlight

OK except flame on tower not good image

re: #239 Ojoe

Polls are BS because:

1. they are not secret and the ballot is.

2. Poll questions can be phrased in tricky ways, the ballot is simple.

3. Polls come to you, you have to get off your behind to go vote.

4. Polls can be used to influence the election beforehand and the ballot cannot.

Very well spoken.

I like watching trend lines (with "scatter" info):
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo .php

re: #244 Halman

Thank you.

re: #237 Typicalwhitey

Calling Dr. Palin! Dr. Palin! To the OR stat! You need to perform a palinoscopy!

re: #180 redstateredneck

Hey, reine
Is the wind kickin' up down your way?

We are under "tropical storm watch", believe it or not. Ike is so huge we will have tropical storm strength winds tomorrow. I'm looking forward to a nice windy day with no danger of disaster; but feelin' really sorry for the folks in Texas!

re: #236 Halman

I got my info from "Real Clear Politics".

You are right, at RCP he is up 1.8 - I must have seen it at another poll (half of them cannot even be trusted...)

re: #240 Typicalwhitey

au contraire my friend:

[Link: time-blog.com...]

I gladly stand corrected

Palinoscopy

Now, there's a needed addition to the lexicon. LOL

re: #239 Ojoe

Polls are BS because:

1. they are not secret and the ballot is.

2. Poll questions can be phrased in tricky ways, the ballot is simple.

3. Polls come to you, you have to get off your behind to go vote.

4. Polls can be used to influence the election beforehand and the ballot cannot.

5. The polls are done for the MSM who are the marketing department for the Dem Party.

re: #250 wright1

I gladly stand corrected

Its a "sneak peak"

The polls will not be released until tomorrow.

re: #247 Cap'n DOC

Calling Dr. Palin! Dr. Palin! To the OR stat! You need to perform a palinoscopy!

Was that article hilarious or what!

re: #251 unreconstructed rebel

Now, there's a needed addition to the lexicon. LOL

That is what she will be performing on Biden (unless he suggests someone else to appear in his place).

re: #252 Sunlight

I am sure there are more reasons too.

re: #249 wright1

You are right, at RCP he is up 1.8 - I must have seen it at another poll (half of them cannot even be trusted...)

Polls are pretty flakey, but when I see McCaine-Palin ahead. It just gives me a little bit of a "comfort level".

re: #254 Typicalwhitey

Spot on is more like it.

re: #257 buzzsawmonkey

What man has done man can do.

re: #256 Ojoe

I am sure there are more reasons too.

They've been so far off in the last few elections as to be a fraud. I don't even look at them, either way. I think the Dems manipulate them up and down to try to manipulate voters.