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ABC News Interview with Sarah Palin

Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:20:21 am PDT

YouTube is flooded with edited versions of Charlie Gibson’s interview with Sarah Palin, subtitled with mocking comments and nasty insults. Here’s a clip that seems to be free of this leftist garbage.

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And by the way, the one who was confused about the “Bush Doctrine” was Gibson. Even Wikipedia’s description of the Bush Doctrine is more accurate than Charlie Gibson’s.

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1 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:22:47am

Nasty comments? No surprise there, the left sinks to new lows daily.

2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:23:09am

A member of the MSM confused on the facts? Say it aint so?

3 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:24:40am

No one ever said news anchors were smart. After all, all they do is to read off a teleprompter. Wait, that reminds me of a certain presidential candidate.

4 soccerdad  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:24:46am

He was so smarmy and condescending....I live blogged it here last night. What a frickin' pig he was. Gave her VERY little respect.

5 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:25:00am

"Bush Doctrine" has become a repository of angst. The definition shifts based on who is invoking the term. Her asking for clarification/definition was appropriate.

6 vxbush  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:25:15am

Darn. I guess I was kind of hoping the mocking comments would be about Gibson's lack of knowledge.

7 pegcity  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:25:50am

The game is rigged, we need an actual conservative network, fox dosen't cut it anymore.

Rush should start his own channel, he has about 400 million i think he could pull it off

8 Lively  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:25:54am

re: #5 karmic_inquisitor

"Bush Doctrine" has become a repository of angst. The definition shifts based on who is invoking the term. Her asking for clarification/definition was appropriate.

Yes. A Bush hater could have meant any number of things by the "Bush Doctrine."

9 USA  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:26:10am
We have in her a leader who doesn't merely quote from time to time an old chestnut from a Lincoln speech, but who has clearly reflected on one of the most extraordinary and moderate dispositions to divine providence ever taught by a leader in wartime, and found it worthy of adoption and emulation in her own speeches. What's more, she is able to explain gracefully, to a man posing as a human resources executive, what she was saying in her prayer. That Gibson understood her explanation is doubtful. Perhaps he needs a lesson in the meaning of the subjunctive mood (and I have no doubt Governor Palin could give him one). More likely, he suffers from God Derangement Syndrome, the mere mention of God shutting down brain synapses.


link

10 Lively  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:26:27am

re: #7 pegcity

The game is rigged, we need an actual conservative network, fox dosen't cut it anymore.

Rush should start his own channel, he has about 400 million i think he could pull it off


Fox goes along with the rest of'em.

11 pegcity  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:26:28am

re: #5 karmic_inquisitor

what was the clinton doctrine?

12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:26:47am

re: #6 vxbush

Darn. I guess I was kind of hoping the mocking comments would be about Gibson's lack of knowledge.

There have only been 6 comments, including yours. Give us some time.

Oh, you meant the videos.

13 TN_Vol  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:27:11am

If there isn't a Presidential document describing the "Bush Doctrine" then it is left up to individual interprtation as to what the "Bush Doctrine" means. Gov. Palin is smart to require a specific question that she can give a specific answer for. Giving a answer related to an undefined question would be foolish.

14 saylorfam  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:27:19am

I was greeted this morning by an email from my Ex forwarding an article from the AP telling me how poorly She did and how ill informed Palin is. I should have figured on all of the "edited" stuff appearing.
I did not watch the interview but am still amazed at how dangerous toe left finds her to be. They must really be scared.

15 Killer Tomato  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:27:25am

Why don't they all just come clean and wear Obama buttons on their lapels?

16 Power Armored Lizardoid  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:27:39am

All I can say is...Keep it up Lamestream media! Between you and the Hollywierd dolts like Whoopi, Pam, and Matt, it is almost assured that Johnny Mac and the Sarahcuda will be in the White House come January.

The Left...always willing to fulfill a self-defeating prophecy...

17 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:27:47am

Go ahead and insult. Every insult gains her more votes.

18 Quilly Mammoth  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:28:04am

Charlie Gibson is getting beatdown from across the board. Even Kirsten Powers is giving Palin higher marks than Gibson. And lamenting that such a ham handed and obvious smear job is not helpful. Ya Think?

19 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:28:24am

I only saw the first segment on the news while I was at the gym. I thought Gibson was a complete jerk, asking her over and over again the same question about invading or launching raids into Pakistan. She gave the perfectly standard politician's response, almost verbatim each time. I give her a lot of credit for not slapping him.

20 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:28:49am

It is a garauntee, I write for post on the overnight DT and as soon as I het the button new threads are active. grrrr I will repost, forgive me.

re: #805 Alouette

The Bush Doctrine: "You are with us or you are with the terrorists"

At least that's what I thought it was until W did the sword dance with the Saudi princes.

I think that what prompted that gotcha thread was Charlie wallowing in the memory of where he learned his foreign policy paradigm. In The Killing Fields there is one scene where Sidney Schanberg gets drunk and watches video of carpet bombing by B-52s to Puccini's Nessun Dorma (from Turandot) after you hear the Richard Nixon's voice describe the invasion of Cambodia as "The Nixon Doctrine in its purest form."

After the Monroe Doctrine the American Presidency took a long breather and spared High School students the need to remember a Van Buren Doctrine, Hayes Doctrine, Fillmore Doctrine, Cleveland Doctrine or Taft Doctrine. They may have uttered such phrases but only in the hope of giving fodder to some future desperate graduate student. FDR modestly announced a Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine. That gave European dictators a pause as they consulted their physicians about what to do if they caught it. Since then the production of Doctrines has become a cottage industry at Foggy Bottom. Every President from Truman on has announced his own Doctrine. The expectation by the press and academics that every administration will shoehorn policy into a straight jacket for ease of analysis has become the Pundit's Doctrine.

21 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:28:53am

As noted in the previous thread... the left is crowing that "Palin doesn't even know what the Bush Doctrine is!", but she was perfectly right to ask Gibson in essence what he meant by the question. It's an amorphous term that means different things to different people.

Also, reposting this, Kathryn Jean Lopez asks: Compare and Contrast. Which Is a Blizzard?

Compare and contrast Sarah Palin’s 43-word clear response with a typical 290-word meandering response by Joe Biden. And compare and contrast the responses of their ABC interviewers...

22 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:28:58am

re: #14 saylorfam

They cannot stand her faith, which means she is beyond all human control.

23 freedomplow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:29:07am

She did fine. Charlie came across as rather smug.

24 interloper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:29:20am

SARAH recently asked if anyone knew of Bible verses that have to to do with being unjustly attacked. Psalm 35, Psalm 109 & 110, and Psalm 143. They have helped me get through my own difficulties due to the mean-spirited libs who ratted me out constantly, tried to fight me, and threaten my job and ergo my home. I pray she gets wind of these and prays these psalms.

25 Lively  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:29:26am

re: #14 saylorfam

I was greeted this morning by an email from my Ex forwarding an article from the AP telling me how poorly She did and how ill informed Palin is. I should have figured on all of the "edited" stuff appearing.
I did not watch the interview but am still amazed at how dangerous toe left finds her to be. They must really be scared.

Explains why he/she is you "Ex."

26 kynna  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:29:29am

It's very possible that the Obamatrons who are foaming over this are going to put the final nail in The One's coffin. And they'll blame the 'right wing' MSM. Bleh.

27 DeliLama  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:30:21am

So she's supposed to be just a coninuation of the Bush administration but she's not clear on exactly what the BUSH DOCTRINE is?

28 lennysquiggy  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:30:47am

Charles,

I was in the middle of posting this in the Open Thread this morning and I got sidetracked.

Take a look at the accounts that are re-posting these clips with the same titles and descriptions. If these YouTube accounts are not all owned/operated by the same leftist entity (Barry's campaign, MoveOn, etc.), then they are almost definitely being coordinated by a leftist organization.

Something is going on here. It's just too big of a coincidence that dozens of people randomly posted the same clip with the same titles and comments. It would be fitting if this was all linked back to Barry's camp.

29 Lawrence Schmerel  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:31:11am

Sarah Palin is no pushover, is she? I give her high marks.

30 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:31:16am

And now we have, apparently, the Chavez Doctrine.

He also cut U.S. flights to Venezuela and warned he would support "armed movements" to back [Bolivia's Evo] Morales in the event of a coup against him.

31 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:31:20am

Progressives in a Palin Panic Pissing their Pants!

32 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:31:50am

OT - state of Washington now in play.

Obama is going to have to spend dwindling cash on defense.

Obama's finace model resembles a subprime mortgage - all resources bet on the price going up.

33 DeliLama  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:32:15am

The Bush Doctrine question (like so many of them) was loaded, designed to tie her to the Bush legacy. Her asking for clarification was the perfect response to avoid this, but they spun it to mean she didn't know what it was. So many of these questions you could see that all answers would be spun as wrong.

34 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:32:16am

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

"Go ahead, darlin', I promise I won't..." uh, never mind.

35 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:33:03am

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

OK - I am waiting for the punch line.
;)

36 lennysquiggy  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:33:47am

#28: lennysquiggy (hey, that's ME!)

Just a follow up... Look at the results of this YouTube search. This is obviously coordinated:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

37 Pyrocles  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:33:58am

Ah, that puts Palin's "fighting the war in Iraq for God" comment in good context. She actually said to "pray that there is a plan, and that the plan is God's plan. Nothing like what my NPR-loving wife keeps mentioning.

re: #9 USA

link

38 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:10am

re: #18 Quilly Mammoth
Indeed Gibson is getting a beatdown across the board.
This morning on Fox and Friends, Chris Wallace said some pretty negative things about this interview, like
"It was so poorly edited it was hard to hear Governor Palin's answers to whatever question Gibson asked her" and "I don't know why, but don't like or approve of Charlie Gibson's sitting there, with his glasses at the end of his nose, looking down at Governor Palin as if he was a headmaster at some school and she had to defend her right to attend that school" and, again about the editing "The later show cleaned up the editing somewhat, but it was still a terrible job of editing."
Now Chris Wallace isn't my "cup of tea" normally, but he was really all over Charlie Gibson's ass this morning - looked and sounded like his father from about 30 years ago.

39 tommygum  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:11am

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

An "oral agreement"?

40 Alouette  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:14am

re: #28 lennysquiggy

Charles,

I was in the middle of posting this in the Open Thread this morning and I got sidetracked.

Take a look at the accounts that are re-posting these clips with the same titles and descriptions. If these YouTube accounts are not all owned/operated by the same leftist entity (Barry's campaign, MoveOn, etc.), then they are almost definitely being coordinated by a leftist organization.

Something is going on here. It's just too big of a coincidence that dozens of people randomly posted the same clip with the same titles and comments. It would be fitting if this was all linked back to Barry's camp.

It's not random, but it is viral. I don't think these YouTube postings are coordinated by a mastermind, it is just a flocking of the lemmings.

41 Lawrence Schmerel  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:29am

One other word about Sarah Palin's confidence, coolness, and competence: Damn!

42 iceman1960  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:36am

The only purpose of the question about the Bush doctrine was to give Obama soundbytes to tie McCain to Bush.

43 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:36am

Someone on NPR this morning was sneering about how Palin "let herself get drawn into a hypothetical" when she said we should support Israel's right to defend itself, as opposed to tray so-fist-i-kay Hillary who "always knows better than to respond to hypotheticals".

To liberals, mushy-mouthed weakness when talking about our allies' existential threats is apparently a good thing.

44 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:52am

An interesting thing to point out is that, before Iraq, "Bush Doctrine" what is now called Powell Doctrine.

45 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:34:55am

I always took "the Bush Doctrine" to mean the process of democratization in the Middle East -- basically, that turning dictatorships into democracies would improve our own security. I think it is working to some degree in Iraq, which was a more secular society to begin with. However, I strenuously doubt you can turn bloodthirsty tribal warlords with a seventh century worldview into liberal democrats (in the good old-fashioned sense) in less than 100 years.

46 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:35:02am

on the DT typicalwhite had a link at #841 that nicely showed how Obama has said the same things. The difference is that everyone knows he is simply lying when he says Israel can defend itself or that the US should go to war to defend our allies. So Obama gets a pass. What he says is unimportant. What is important is how he looks and that he is The One saying it.

47 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:35:09am

re: #32 karmic_inquisitor

OT - state of Washington now in play.

Obama is going to have to spend dwindling cash on defense.

Obama's finace model resembles a subprime mortgage - all resources bet on the price going up.

And not only that, Obama can't campaign 100% of the time. He has to keep raising cash while campaigning. The moron decided to forgo the public campaign financing that might have helped him.

Obama is dumber than he looks.

48 troonbop  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:35:15am

I wonder if gibson knows that staring over your reading glasses half way down your nose doesn't make you look intelligent?
Local idiot columnist in Toronto paper headlined his column about Palin "threatening" Russia with war, when all she did was state Nato doctrine regarding allies.

49 lennysquiggy  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:35:19am

Some good stuff amongst the YouTube leftist garbage:

Fred Thompson's Speech vs. Dancing Obama:

50 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:35:49am

re: #39 tommygum

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

An "oral agreement"?

"Leave no stain behind"?

51 Power Armored Lizardoid  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:35:52am

Every time a Leftard Mediot like Gibson is an ass to Sarah Palin, another PUMA swells the ranks of voters itching to pull the voting lever for McCain/Palin...

Isn't life delicious?

52 kynna  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:36:06am

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

"You'd better put some ice on that."

53 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:36:08am

re: #31 jcm

Progressives in a Palin Panic Pissing their Pants!

Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

54 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:36:13am

re: #7 pegcity

The game is rigged, we need an actual conservative network, fox dosen't cut it anymore.

Rush should start his own channel, he has about 400 million i think he could pull it off

rush just mentioned he thinks sarah did a good job.
i'm inclined to believe the viewing public will see the bias.

55 Sundog  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:36:31am

Gibson should be thankful that Republicans are not Muslims. If they were, it would be permissible for them to kill him.

56 USA  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:36:55am

Obama Doctrine is easier to remember:

Bloviate, Prevaricate, and Capitulate.

/no thank you. Keep the "Change."

57 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:37:09am

Like I said earlier today, if Gov. Palin would have given the answer that the left/msm/Democrats were hoping for, the newest Obama commercial would have Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain,

"4 more years of Bush/Cheney."

She didn't say what the msm wanted her to say, so, they have to attack her somehow.

She is infinitly more qualified to be POTUS than either Barack Hussein(my Muslim faith)Obama or Slow Joe(stand up) Biden.

Let's here about Joe Bidens son and brother who are being investigated for fraud in the hedge fund arena and the fact that they were both lobbying Biden while this aleged activity was going on, or Charles Rangel's willful attemps to circumvent the tax code, or Chris Dodds "loans are on us for nothing."

58 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:37:13am

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

unzip. find target.

59 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:37:31am

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

Ready Fire Aim

60 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:37:48am

I'm glad the leftists and msm hate Sarah. If they didn't, I would worry there was something wrong.

61 lennysquiggy  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:38:00am

#40 Alouette:

With all due respect, I think you're mistaken. It looks viral, but these people/accounts are all posting the same clip with very similar titles and descriptions.

Check this article out for some insight into how this stuff is made to look viral, when it really is a top-down operation to influence public opinion:

The Secret Strategies Behind Many "Viral" Videos

62 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:38:04am

re: #4 soccerdad

He was so smarmy and condescending....I live blogged it here last night. What a frickin' pig he was. Gave her VERY little respect.

Yep - only watched this just now: my, he's a patronising a$$hole!
As if Sarah Palin was a little schoolgirl whom he needed to examine ...

Anybody asked these questions to the B0? In that manner?
Don' think so ...

63 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:38:18am

re: #51 Power Armored Lizardoid

Every time an Obamanik talks,
A PUMA gets her trunk.

64 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:38:44am

re: #36 lennysquiggy
Just wanted you to know that I reported both of your comments to Charles in the hope that he can do some quick checking and maybe get a thread out of what certainly DOES appear to be a coordinated attack.

65 USA  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:38:56am

re: #59 lifeofthemind

Ready Fire Aim

Ready, Aim, Fire, Re-zip.

66 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:39:25am

re: #63 Honorary Yooper

Every time an Obamanik talks,
A PUMA gets her trunk.

Merry Christmas, Bedford Falls!

67 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:39:43am

re: #40 Alouette

It's not random, but it is viral. I don't think these YouTube postings are coordinated by a mastermind, it is just a flocking of the lemmings.


Don't underestimate how much money that George Soros/David Geffen are willing to spend in this election.

His $25 million spent to try and defeat Pres. Bush in 2004, will look like pocket change compared to this year.

68 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:39:57am

re: #66 Occasional Reader

Merry Christmas, Bedford Falls!

I'm hoping for Christmas in November.

69 Power Armored Lizardoid  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:39:57am

re: #11 pegcity

There was a President who enjoyed 'pole-ing' the electorate!

/heh

70 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:40:24am

re: #32 karmic_inquisitor

OT - state of Washington now in play.

Obama is going to have to spend dwindling cash on defense.

Obama's finace model resembles a subprime mortgage - all resources bet on the price going up.

I been saying that for awhile, It will be very close. I thinks it's a product of Palin and the Gregoire / Rossi race. Gregoire is running against Bush if you watch her ads.

71 wintercat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:40:42am

I don't know why people are calling this an interview. Interrogation is more descriptive.

72 tommygum  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:40:43am

re: #30 Occasional Reader

And now we have, apparently, the Chavez Doctrine.

F-22 vs. MiG-29.

73 freedomplow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:40:43am

re: #44 karmic_inquisitor

"a journalist-created term"

74 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:41:42am

re: #72 tommygum

F-22 vs. MiG-29.

F-22 vs. Target Drone.

75 tommygum  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:41:42am

re: #31 jcm

Progressives in a Palin Panic Pissing their Pants!

Sally pissy-pants!

76 fireangel  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:41:45am

I use to like Gibson but now he's in the same stinking garbage heap the other MSM people are in.

77 Noam Chumpski  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:42:00am

I would've been more impressed if Charlie had just bent to his instincts and started smacking Palin around... 'Cause that's what the interview felt like to me.

The amount of editing that they did on her answers is embarrassing. They chopped her answers up into cute sound-bytes... like a "really bad Disney movie..." a la Matt Damon.

78 NC State of Mind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:42:48am

re: #62 yma o hyd

Yep - only watched this just now: my, he's a patronising a$$hole!
As if Sarah Palin was a little schoolgirl whom he needed to examine ...

Anybody asked these questions to the B0? In that manner?
Don' think so ...

In 2007 he asked Obama, among other things:

How he and Michelle met
How he internalized the abscense of his father
Which world does he really belong-white or black

You know, hardcore policy questions.

79 jorline  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:42:56am

Is Sarah packing heat during these interviews?

80 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:43:07am

re: #77 Noam Chumpski

I would've been more impressed if Charlie had just bent to his instincts and started smacking Palin around

Um, my money's on Sarah...

81 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:43:10am

I thought the Bush Doctrine was: "Smoke 'em out"

82 ronaldusmagnus  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:43:28am

Describing Gibson as "smug" during the interview is cutting him some slack. His body language (shifting in his chair, head shaking, rolling his eyes, scornful expressions, etc.) illustrated blatant contempt.

The "Bush Doctrine" session was especially galling. Considering it is a lengthy and multi-faceted issue, Sarah Palin first replied, in essence, "which aspect"? He replied in tone and manner both condescending, instructing her as if she were an ignoramous.

By the way, there is no document titled "The Bush Doctrine". It is a name, coined by the media and political pundits, to be applied to the National Security Council Strategy. Gibson takes one particle of it, names it as such, and then scoldingly tells Palin what he thinks it is when she stumbles a bit on a very broad and incomplete question.

BTW Gibson, as for the "have you ever met a Head of State" snark, I have met the President of Mexico. Does that make me more qualified than Palin to be VP?

83 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:43:38am

Frankly- I'm surprised Gibson admitted this world is dangerous.

If it's such a dangerous world, are we sure we're ready to hand the reigns over to a junior senator with no real accomplishments to his name? I know I'm not, but wouldn't it be nice to see the msm pose these questions to 0bama?

The trouble for the msm & 0bama both is that this is the question being posed to the American public, whether they know it or not, and we'll get to answer it come November.

84 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:43:43am

Anyone just hear that caller to Rush?

Ooo-fa!

85 Power Armored Lizardoid  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:44:19am

All I ask is that McCain not only wins, but wins decisively. If it's too close, there will be lawsuits and recount after recount.

And please Lord, don't let Florida Demorats manufacture another disenfranchisement voter fraud scheme.

/So sick of my home state being made to look stupid...

86 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:44:24am

re: #70 jcm

I been saying that for awhile, It will be very close. I thinks it's a product of Palin and the Gregoire / Rossi race. Gregoire is running against Bush if you watch her ads.

Gotta wonder how many Washingtonians are pissed with Gregoire over the last gubenatorial race. That may be a major factor this time. Hell, if Washington and Minnesota can go GOP this year, what's to stop other states?

87 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:44:28am

re: #84 JammieWearingFool

Anyone just hear that caller to Rush?

Ooo-fa!

Yes.

Uff-Da

88 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:44:42am

re: #49 lennysquiggy

Some good stuff amongst the YouTube leftist garbage:

Fred Thompson's Speech vs. Dancing Obama:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Thank you

89 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:44:43am

Eight years of Clinton Doctrine--basically, Welcome, Yasser and murderin' basttids! Kick here, please!--was enough for our great Nation, don't you agree?

Clinton's Dereliction of Duty made the Bush Doctrine necessary.

90 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:45:04am

re: #11 pegcity

Here a splooge, there a splooge, everywhere a splooge, splooge.

91 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:45:13am

re: #77 Noam Chumpski

I would've been more impressed if Charlie had just bent to his instincts and started smacking Palin around... 'Cause that's what the interview felt like to me.

The amount of editing that they did on her answers is embarrassing. They chopped her answers up into cute sound-bytes... like a "really bad Disney movie..." a la Matt Damon.

"Mayyat Dayyaman".

92 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:45:19am

re: #84 JammieWearingFool

Anyone just hear that caller to Rush?
Ooo-fa!

missing it. can you give me the nutshell version? :)

93 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:46:18am

re: #85 Power Armored Lizardoid

All I ask is that McCain not only wins, but wins decisively. If it's too close, there will be lawsuits and recount after recount.

And please Lord, don't let Florida Demorats manufacture another disenfranchisement voter fraud scheme.

/So sick of my home state being made to look stupid...

And those "Disenfranchised voters" are all of the illegal aliens that ACORN and other various Democrat despots have registered.

94 Gretchen  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:46:24am

OT

Speaking of killing, what's up with team Obama's new strategy? First they trash Palin which alienates women, now they are making fun of McCain for computer skills? Let's alienate old people! Brilliant! Two core constituencies. Note to the insular Obama crew lots of over 40s aren't computer savy.

Obama can search the net McCain will have aides do his research.

95 Deafdog  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:46:25am

I can't get Youtube at the office, so I've only seen a clip from the news last night.

To those who have seen it, How does Gibson's aggressiveness in interviewing Palin compare to Oreily's aggresiveness in interviewing Obama?

96 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:46:34am

re: #90 Cap'n DOC

Here a splooge, there a splooge, everywhere a splooge, splooge.

I hear that before Bushed moved his stuff in, they had to have a hazmat team go over the Oval Office with a blacklight and ten gallons of bleach.

97 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:46:35am

re: #85 Power Armored Lizardoid

All I ask is that McCain not only wins, but wins decisively.

I want to crush the Dems electorally, to see them driven before us, to hear the lamentations of their talking head pundits.

98 Egfrow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:46:52am

Some advice for Palin for the next time she is pressed in an interview to respond to the question of using force against Pakistan within it's own borders. This is not a hypothetical question anymore.

If a supposed ally is not responding to our requests to address enemy formations, logistics, and training facilities within it's own borders and these forces are using Ally sites to launch attacks repeatedly against US Forces and they don't respond to it, then we have the fucking right to put the "Smack Down" on their asses if the attacks are directed at the enemy only. If our Allys troops are mixed in with the Enemy then, here's got good part, "They are then not really our Ally"

99 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:47:00am

re: #77 Noam Chumpski
Indeed. Please see my #38 above.

100 quesnay  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:47:14am

The more the left tries to destroy her, the more popular she becomes with the public. The issue for the "democrats" is one of an existential one, where they are losing women as one of their core constituencies. To give you an example, my wife who started and grew a successful business, shattered the glass mirror for her type of business, and at the same time, found the time to raise two good kids, and has always been apolitical, is now an admirer and supporter of Governor Palin. Somehow, Palin resonated a chord in my wife, as well as with millions of women. The Democrats are in very deep trouble and the more they continue their attacks on her the more trouble they will get themselves into.

101 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:47:18am

re: #92 Vergeltung

missing it. can you give me the nutshell version? :)

The "long time listener" seriously compared Rush to Michael (fat bastard) Moore.

102 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:47:24am

re: #86 Honorary Yooper

Gotta wonder how many Washingtonians are pissed with Gregoire over the last gubenatorial race. That may be a major factor this time. Hell, if Washington and Minnesota can go GOP this year, what's to stop other states?

A lot are pissed over that.
Transportation is a BIG issue. She support a 9.5 cent gas tax which barely passed. The Alaska Way Viaduct in Seattle was an "emergency" and the tax would allow it to be fixed immediately. 4 years later they just announced public comments on the project. People are starting to get a clue.

103 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:47:27am

sarah palin has thrown them for a loop because she is rallying a multitude of people, w/ simple basic american values.
which the left doesn't understand at all and in fact ridicules.
they can't figure out why we embrace her.
they are pathetic fools.

104 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:47:38am

re: #85 Power Armored Lizardoid

All I ask is that McCain not only wins, but wins decisively. If it's too close, there will be lawsuits and recount after recount.

And please Lord, don't let Florida Demorats manufacture another disenfranchisement voter fraud scheme.

/So sick of my home state being made to look stupid...

Part of the reason they could do so in 2000 was because they had King Richard II's brother, Bill Daley, down there. Bill Daley brought The Chicago Way to Florida vote fraud in 2000.

As long as Bill, Rich, or John Daley stay away from Florida this time, I have no doubt it'll be counted accurately and fairly.

105 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:48:51am

re: #94 Gretchen

OT

Speaking of killing, what's up with team Obama's new strategy? First they trash Palin which alienates women, now they are making fun of McCain for computer skills? Let's alienate old people! Brilliant! Two core constituencies. Note to the insular Obama crew lots of over 40s aren't computer savy.

Obama can search the net McCain will have aides do his research.

That's not all that surprising- they didn't talk about seniors at all during their convention.

106 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:00am

re: #94 Gretchen

OT

Speaking of killing, what's up with team Obama's new strategy? First they trash Palin which alienates women, now they are making fun of McCain for computer skills? Let's alienate old people! Brilliant! Two core constituencies. Note to the insular Obama crew lots of over 40s aren't computer savy.

Obama can search the net McCain will have aides do his research.


75 million baby boomers, most, centrist/right, and another 100 million more voters who "cling to their guns and religion."

Yup, they sure know how to run a campaign.

ROFLMA!

107 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:05am

re: #82 ronaldusmagnus
Uh, which President of Mexico? I'm just kidding here, Gibson's interview was so bad, even Chris Wallace trashed it (see my #38 above).

108 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:13am

The Clinton Docrine: Bombing of the USS Cole "wasn't sufficiently provocative". Announced by then SecDef Cohen. There you have it.

109 CommonCents  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:26am

re: #81 Ringo the Gringo

I thought the Bush Doctrine was: "Smoke 'em out"



The Bush Doctrine was re-written in 2007 as "Just Win Baby".

110 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:30am

re: #60 Sharmuta

I'm glad the leftists and msm hate Sarah. If they didn't, I would worry there was something wrong.

I have to admit that a portion of my dislike for McCain was precisely because he was being supported by the media. Now that he is consistently being trashed/lied about by the same outlets and people that previously praised him forced me to rethink my position.

Just because my enthusiasm for McCain may not be 100% surely doesn't make me despise Obama any less.

111 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:51am

And another thing ...
I was very much impressed with the way she dealt with 'Charlie's' question about Israel.

A clear statement, repeated three times, no fuss, very cool and unflustered.

'Charlie' looked like a real idiot, as if he didn't get it - well, he didn't ..

If a male politician had spoken thus, the MSM would have been all over him with fulsome praise for his coolness and steadfastness.
But hey, its only that beauty queen from Wassi-something, ya know ...

Oh - and the B0 would in no way have been able to answer thus ...

112 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:52am

re: #101 republic

The "long time listener" seriously compared Rush to Michael (fat bastard) Moore.

so, sounds like a BS call then. long time listener my azz.

113 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:49:54am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

I want to crush the Dems electorally, to see them driven before us, to hear the lamentations of their talking head pundits.

They will cry on TV if he loses, you know. There will be hugging. There will be commiserating. There will be Chris Matthews eulogizing the tingle in his leg.

114 Bubbaman  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:11am

At one level, I am surprised that the Repubs allowed her to go on with no pre-conditions (then again that's how Osama would treat AchtungImonJihad). When Osama appeared on O'Reilly, one of the pre-conditions included that the interview could not be edited, ensuring that his words were not taken out of context. Clearly, in several instances, the Palin interview seemed highly edited.

On another thought, given that Osama has thrown his GM, Pastor, numerous friends, etc... under the bus, who thinks Biden is next in favor of Hilliary?

In the last two days, we've had Biden speaking about how Hilliary is more qualified than he, and Osama suddenly spends a couple of hours with Bill. Farfetched?

115 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:17am

re: #108 Occasional Reader

The Clinton Docrine: Bombing of the USS Cole "wasn't sufficiently provocative". Announced by then SecDef Cohen. There you have it.

*spit*
Attack on a Warship is casus belli.

PERIOD. FULL STOP.

116 NYexpat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:21am

I remember Dr James Dobson, on a radio broadcast at least 20 years ago telling of how he naively agreed to a 60 Minutes interview. a week later when the show was broadcast, he was dismayed to discover that his responses had been edited to the point that he barely recognized them. Ever since then, I have heard this from many right of center figures; the only surprise here is that they were so obvious about it. Even so, she handled him well. I liked particularly her response to the "task that is from God smear". Apparently Charlie didn't like her answer, since it the followup questions, he completely ignored it. To her credit she didn't smack him in the head. I know I wanted to!

117 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:23am

re: #87 republic
Um,

re: #84 JammieWearingFool

Anyone just hear that caller to Rush?

Ooo-fa!

Yes.

Uff-Da


What did the caller say?!?

118 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:27am

re: #82 ronaldusmagnus

I have met the President of Mexico

Out of curiosity; which one?

119 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:37am

re: #73 freedomplow

"a journalist-created term"

Isn't that so true - because after the Kuwait / Gulf War, that doctrine was called the Bush Doctrine.

120 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:45am

re: #94 Gretchen

OT

Speaking of killing, what's up with team Obama's new strategy? First they trash Palin which alienates women, now they are making fun of McCain for computer skills? Let's alienate old people! Brilliant! Two core constituencies. Note to the insular Obama crew lots of over 40s aren't computer savy.

Obama can search the net McCain will have aides do his research.

* * *
In past, Cindy McCain did the family computer thing.

"Dinosaur" McCain had cell phones light years before Charles Johnson got his recently, plus McCain always had willing staff eager to SERVE as communication whizzes!

Oh, and McCain flew high tech gadgets in the sky, while media leftists helped Hanoi "interrogate" Americans using sticks and stones.

121 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:50:48am

re: #113 Tigger2005

They will cry on TV if he loses, you know. There will be hugging. There will be commiserating. There will be Chris Matthews eulogizing the tingle in his leg.

That tingle in Chris Matthews's leg will grow very limp if Obama loses.

122 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:51:03am

re: #94 Gretchen

OT

Speaking of killing, what's up with team Obama's new strategy? First they trash Palin which alienates women, now they are making fun of McCain for computer skills? Let's alienate old people! Brilliant! Two core constituencies. Note to the insular Obama crew lots of over 40s aren't computer savvy.

Obama can search the net McCain will have aides do his research.

That is a spectacularly stupid strategy. I think it would even put off younger voters whose parents or grandparents are computer illiterate. My mom, at 79, doesn't know one end of a mouse from another, but she is far from stupid.

123 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:51:32am

re: #78 NC State of Mind

In 2007 he asked Obama, among other things:

How he and Michelle met
How he internalized the abscense of his father
Which world does he really belong-white or black

You know, hardcore policy questions.

Aww - no questions about had he met a foreign head of state?
Gaaahh!

124 wintercat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:51:33am

re: #108 Occasional Reader

I thought the Clinton Doctrine involved a cigar. Oh wait, that's the Clinton playin' Doctor In ... the oval office.

My bad.

125 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:51:33am

re: #100 quesnay

The more the left tries to destroy her, the more popular she becomes with the public. The issue for the "democrats" is one of an existential one, where they are losing women as one of their core constituencies. To give you an example, my wife who started and grew a successful business, shattered the glass mirror for her type of business, and at the same time, found the time to raise two good kids, and has always been apolitical, is now an admirer and supporter of Governor Palin. Somehow, Palin resonated a chord in my wife, as well as with millions of women. The Democrats are in very deep trouble and the more they continue their attacks on her the more trouble they will get themselves into.


And the amazing thing is, they are incapable of stopping their sheer hatred.

They can't stop themselves, as there is no known cure for leftism.

126 Semper Gumbi  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:51:53am

Sean Hannity is scheduled to do the next Palin interview.

Hannity on deck to interview Palin

127 ronaldusmagnus  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:51:57am

re: #98 Egfrow

"Then they are not really our ally."

Bush warned us right after the attacks that we would be making alliances that would stretch credulity. That was surely a direct reference to Pakistan and other marginal American-haters. Now that Mush is out, the game has changed and we need to continue to assert our right to protect and defend. Pakistan's "friendship" has always been tenuous since.

128 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:10am

re: #56 USA

Obama Doctrine is easier to remember:

Bloviate, Prevaricate, and Capitulate.

/no thank you. Keep the "Change."

I think you forgot Obfuscate. ;)

129 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:24am

re: #74 jcm

F-22 vs. Target Drone.

Manned target drone.

130 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:31am

re: #115 jcm

*spit*
Attack on a Warship is casus belli.

PERIOD. FULL STOP.

That's what I was saying back in 2000 when it occurred. I also told my friends in college that if we did nothing now, we may have to deal with something bigger. That something bigger happened 7 years ago yesterday.

131 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:32am

re: #95 Deafdog

I can't get Youtube at the office, so I've only seen a clip from the news last night.

To those who have seen it, How does Gibson's aggressiveness in interviewing Palin compare to Oreily's aggresiveness in interviewing Obama?

* * *
O'Reilly may be a blow hard, but he has manners and is respectful while being tough.

Gibson is a classless tool, that's now clear.

Sorry but Fox News' staff and talent are head & shoulders above the Gibson gang.

132 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:43am

re: #92 Vergeltung

missing it. can you give me the nutshell version? :)

She sounded like a real nut. She was comparing Rush to Michael Moore and saying how nobody should listen to him.

Really smug and sanctimonious.

133 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:44am
134 tfc3rid  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:44am

I think the editing is questionable and the questions were clearly pandering to the lefties and trying to hand deliver them a sound byte...

In addition, I thought it was more like an INTERROGATION of Gov. Palin... I would have thought that for the MSM, this would have looked much better if it was more of a dialogue and idscussion, rather than an interrogation...

135 Egfrow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:52:49am

In Response the to NYT article published about covert US forces attacking Taliban targets inside Pakistan, Pakistan has ordered attacks of US Forces in Afghanistan and the border area.

So, essentially the NYT has directly contributed in the escalation of the and may directly contributing to the Death of Americans. When is Treason Treason. Someone from deep in the Pentagon is a traitor and should be put to death if found guilty! Enough is Enough! This has to be stopped now! The NYT is hostile to US interests and needs to be vetted and sources revealed.

136 USA  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:53:02am

re: #128 FurryOldGuyJeans

Very good!

137 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:53:21am

re: #95 Deafdog
Uh, " Oreily's aggresiveness in interviewing Obama?"
What on earth are you talking about? O'Reilly was hardly "aggressive" in interviewing O'Reilly!*

*NB - I refuse to watch O'Reilly since his show has been pretty much all about him - some two years or so now, so that comment came from Mom and she wouldn't lie - she was disgusted at the way O'Reilly let Obama slide in that interview.

138 Power Armored Lizardoid  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:53:25am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

I want to crush the Dems electorally, to see them driven before us, to hear the lamentations of their talking head pundits.

Heh. Love that quote!

139 fireangel  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:53:30am

re: #85 Power Armored Lizardoid

As a Florida native myself I feel for ya.:) There are days if I was to follow my grandmother's advice ie "If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all." I'd be speechless.:D

140 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:53:37am

Why don't various networks have a townhall meeting called "Why We're Scared of Sarah Palin"? I heard that talking about irrational fears is helpful.

141 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:53:56am

Wow- the editing is so obvious. abc- you suck!

142 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:54:02am

re: #112 Vergeltung

so, sounds like a BS call then. long time listener my azz.


A person with that callers personality, is known as,

moron.

143 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:54:39am

re: #126 Semper Gumbi

Sean Hannity is scheduled to do the next Palin interview.

Hannity on deck to interview Palin

Heh.

144 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:55:04am

Here's the tone we can expect for the next 52 days: Clueless Palin Peddles Cliches Under Gibson's Glare



Palin, 44, apparently never heard of the Bush Doctrine until yesterday. She flashed a smile nearly as frozen as her running- mate's and did that tenth-grader thing of tap-dancing around the question, skittishly ad libbing her way with gibberish about Bush's ``global vision.''

Gibson was having none of it, pressing her for specifics she didn't have at her command and finally -- his glare set to iceberg blue, foot circling like a lasso -- he impatiently explained what the doctrine is, when it was introduced, and gave her another chance to answer.

Few Overseas Trips

My sympathy for Palin lasted only as long as it took me to remember that it was Palin who had insisted, at the top of the interview, that she's ready to lead the country on a moment's notice. Asked whether she had ever been outside the U.S. before her recent trip to the Middle East, she answered, ``Canada. Mexico.'' Asked what heads of state she had dealt with, she referenced all those trade delegations that came to Alaska looking to do some business.

When the interview turned to Iraq and Iran, Palin's innocence of diplomatic nuance, not to mention global politics, was something she couldn't dance around. We're America, she said, we don't have to put up with those uppity Eye-ranians.
Does she believe we are doing God's will in Iraq? ``I wouldn't presume to know God's will, Charlie,'' she answered gamely. Gibson was ready with a clip of her sermonizing not long ago in church and she danced around that one, too.

Gibson didn't ask the candidate if she has any clue about the principle of separation of church and state on which her beloved United States was founded. I wish he had.

145 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:55:14am

re: #130 Honorary Yooper

That's what I was saying back in 2000 when it occurred. I also told my friends in college that if we did nothing now, we may have to deal with something bigger. That something bigger happened 7 years ago yesterday.

Yeah, then when I found out part of the military draw down of Clinton was docking the Fleet Oilers, which made the fuel stop in Yemen necessary. I friggin' blew a gasket.

146 Deafdog  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:55:18am

re: #137 realwest

Uh, " Oreily's aggresiveness in interviewing Obama?"
What on earth are you talking about? O'Reilly was hardly "aggressive" in interviewing O'Reilly!*

*NB - I refuse to watch O'Reilly since his show has been pretty much all about him - some two years or so now, so that comment came from Mom and she wouldn't lie - she was disgusted at the way O'Reilly let Obama slide in that interview.

I trust Mom, too.

147 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:55:26am

re: #126 Semper Gumbi

Sean Hannity is scheduled to do the next Palin interview.

Hannity on deck to interview Palin

Unfortunately I agree with the "left wing" comments.
Brit Hume would be my top choice.
Hannity will suck up, and it will be obvious.

148 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:55:50am

re: #104 Honorary Yooper

Part of the reason they could do so in 2000 was because they had King Richard II's brother, Bill Daley, down there. Bill Daley brought The Chicago Way to Florida vote fraud in 2000.

As long as Bill, Rich, or John Daley stay away from Florida this time, I have no doubt it'll be counted accurately and fairly.

* * *

That was just practice for the left. Expect that tactic everywhere.

149 tommygum  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:55:52am

re: #97 Occasional Reader

I want to crush the Dems electorally, to see them driven before us, to hear the lamentations of their talking head pundits.

......and the wailing and gnashing of teeth......

150 Adrenalyn  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:55:55am

he comes across as a nasty lawyer trying to shake a rape victim into revealing that she "deserved it"

what a piece of shit he is

reinforces what I want in my leader
someone like McCain (and Palin) who can say
Fuck you Cornyn to a member of his own party
or the enemy-abetting party

I tell you, after this election the left is going to protest McCain/Palin all the way to inauguration day like Gore did
and this time it will be even less civil

151 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:56:02am

re: #133 taxfreekiller

When they go "Down the Drain", they do swirl to the Left, don't they?

152 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:56:14am

re: #98 Egfrow

I bet you anything that she ehrself and her advisers will go over every answer she gave with a fine toothcomb, aiming to make her better.
This was, after all, her first interview.
Now she knows the score.

Mind - her answer about Israel could not have been better!
(Sorry, i said that already ...)

153 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:56:32am

re: #108 Occasional Reader
Absolutely spot on comment. Not sufficiently provocative, indeed.
Ya know, go ahead and bomb a US Navy ship and KILL U.S. sailors - no problem.
We'll chuck Tomahawks at aspirin factories to keep you in line.

154 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:57:10am

If you look at the Real Clear Politics "No Toss Ups" electoral map, it first appears to be good news for Obama.

Flip any of the following states to McCain and Obama loses (ties go to McCain)

1) New Hampshire
2) Michigan
3) New Mexico
4) Colorado
5) Pennsylvania
6) Oregon
7) Washington
8) Wisconsin
9) New Jersey

Any one of those flips and Obama loses. And they are all in play. And many have expensive media markets.

155 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:57:40am

LMAO!

"Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?"

"In what respect Charlie?" Delivered with a knowing smile. God, I love her.

156 lennysquiggy  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:58:08am

#64 realwest:

Groovy. Thanks.

Charles - if you're reading this... I know a thing or two about how web video marketing campaigns are conducted and this thing smells like a coordinated attack from an organization. If I had to bet, I'd say this is coming from the DNC, Barry's campaign, MoveOn or the like. I'm sure the goal is similar to a Google Bomb - they want any YouTube search on Sarah Palin to turn up these videos and I'm sure they will do it repeatedly from here on out.

This stuff isn't illegal and it wouldn't be quite as damaging as the Throbbing Memo, but if it is coming from the Obama campaign it could really expose how low they will go to smear Palin.

157 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:58:24am

re: #147 jwb7605

Unfortunately I agree with the "left wing" comments.
Brit Hume would be my top choice.
Hannity will suck up, and it will be obvious.


Who cares, the only viewers that count are reasonable, mature, hard working Americans.

The rest can leave the country.

158 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:58:29am

re: #19 doppelganglander

Absolutely right, she is one hell of a disciplined person not to have slapped that elitist asswipe.

159 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:58:37am

re: #108 Occasional Reader

The Clinton Docrine: Bombing of the USS Cole "wasn't sufficiently provocative". Announced by then SecDef Cohen. There you have it.

* * *

And that was only the last in a series of UNANSWERED actS of war against US embassies & citizens, in October 2000.

Mr. Cohen had no business or relevant experience to have been named Secretary of Defense except he was a weak Republican willing to curry Clinton favor.

160 Athos  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:58:44am

re: #153 realwest

You forget that the only reason we chucked tomahawks at aspirin factories was to steal the news cycle away from grand jury testimonies.......

161 DaddyO  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:58:49am

re: #11 pegcity

what is the clinton doctrine?


That depends on how you define the word "is"

162 Egfrow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:03am

re: #152 yma o hyd

I bet you anything that she ehrself and her advisers will go over every answer she gave with a fine toothcomb, aiming to make her better.
This was, after all, her first interview.
Now she knows the score.

Mind - her answer about Israel could not have been better!
(Sorry, i said that already ...)

All Sarah's team has to do is comb these threads and she will win every debate.

163 Adrenalyn  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:03am

I think McCain's camp should refues to grant any more interviews by the MSM until they collectively either:

come clean and admit their bias
have Obama held to the same scrutiny, nastiness and all

no debates even
after all, how many fuckin' debates did the demos already have
and how many were on Fox ?

I seem to remember they boycott Fox

time for the same
call them out and refuse to deal with them

eventually the heat will start a fire
maybe awaken the American beast finally

164 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:07am

re: #140 Joan Not of Arc

Why don't various networks have a townhall meeting called "Why We're Scared of Sarah Palin"? I heard that talking about irrational fears is helpful.

"Palins! There's little Palins all over me! Please get'em off! Get'em OFF! GET'EM OFF ME! GET'EM OFF ME!"

"It's OK Barry .... look .... see, we're brushing off the little Palins and stomping them .... it's OK now Barry, they're gone, see, Barry?"

165 ljmw  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:13am

When did Charlie Gibson turn into Thomas Cromwell?

If the press wants to pile on the firewood and tie Palin to the stake then let em.

That oughta sell America a lot of breakfast cereal.

166 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:17am

re: #136 USA

Very good!

Ever since The O burst on the political scene I have always seen him as the Great Obfuscater. So far he has only confirmed my assessment of him by leaps and bounds.

167 cblesz  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:28am

re: #87 republic

Yes.

Uff-Da

Well, can you freaking enlighten us when you make comments like that...

168 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:34am

re: #148 alegrias

That was just practice for the left. Expect that tactic everywhere.

Most of the left isn't as good at it. They're rank ametuers at vote fraud compared to the Chicago Dems. That's part of what worries me this elections since the Chicago Dems have so much riding on Obama winning. They have been known to do almost anything to help their candidate in the voting booth, and when the ballots are in the box.

169 Bubbaman  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 9:59:41am

re: #124 wintercat

I thought the Clinton Doctrine involved a cigar. Oh wait, that's the Clinton playin' Doctor In ... the oval office.

My bad.

No, the Clinton Doctrine was framed by (in no particlar order)...

WTC bombing I
The USS Cole,
US Embassy bombings in Africa,
Ignoring the slaughter of 1 million innocents in Rwanda,
The unwarranted invasion of soverign nations Bosnia/Serbia,
The failed invasion of Sudan and Black Hawk Down.
Should I go on?

170 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:00:04am

re: #111 yma o hyd

And another thing ...
I was very much impressed with the way she dealt with 'Charlie's' question about Israel.

A clear statement, repeated three times, no fuss, very cool and unflustered.

'Charlie' looked like a real idiot, as if he didn't get it - well, he didn't ..

If a male politician had spoken thus, the MSM would have been all over him with fulsome praise for his coolness and steadfastness.
But hey, its only that beauty queen from Wassi-something, ya know ...

Oh - and the B0 would in no way have been able to answer thus ...

Pallin proved that she knew US official policy and would not go beyond that in a reckless manner, very commendable of her. She could have referenced the infamous "Security Perimeter" speech of Dean Acheson that preceded the Korean War if she wanted to look erudite to explain why we don't give details of all tripwires. We have vital interests, we have Nato and other allies, we have rights and obligations, we do not have to say more, If we are attacked or face a threat to a vital interest, including a threat to an ally, then we may respond in a time manner and location of our own choosing. FULL STOP

171 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:00:43am

re: #11 pegcity

what was the clinton doctrine?

Playing Doctor in the Oral Office.

172 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:01:18am

re: #116 NYexpat
Yeah, you just can't trust the MSM and really have NEVER been able to trust them.
I was a guest on a big NYC talk radio station, waaaay back in the day when we were trying to help get other Vietnam veterans jobs.
I made it very clear, upfront, that I didn't want to discuss the War or anti-war protestors or anything else.Effin interview was broadcast live (I had friends tape it for me) and the interviewer's first question to me was
"How do you feel about Jane Fonda?"
POS.

173 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:01:18am

what is so astounding is that the left is so threatened by the principles and fundamental beliefs which has allowed our country to thrive for over 200 yrs.
sarah stands for these beliefs. as do most americans.
the left is becoming obsolete and out dated.
the '60's rhetoric is inappropriate now.
just look at the latest blood letting fatwa from the ropers.
and the left wants to sing kumbaya w/ these killers.
most of us have enough common sense to know that is not going to work.
sarah knows it too.
that is VERY reassuring.

174 kynna  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:01:22am

I too wish Brit Hume were going to be the next interviewer. Hannity is just as arrogant as O'Reilly, IMO.

But he's been good to McCain over the years -- having him on the show even when all the conservatives wanted nothing to do with him -- and I guess it's pay-back time.

*sigh*

175 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:01:38am

re: #154 karmic_inquisitor

If you look at the Real Clear Politics "No Toss Ups" electoral map, it first appears to be good news for Obama.

Flip any of the following states to McCain and Obama loses (ties go to McCain)

1) New Hampshire
2) Michigan
3) New Mexico
4) Colorado
5) Pennsylvania
6) Oregon
7) Washington
8) Wisconsin
9) New Jersey

Any one of those flips and Obama loses. And they are all in play. And many have expensive media markets.

The new Rasmussen numbers have McCain down by only two points in Washington, where Obama used to lead by 12. McCain will likely win five of the states you note, if not all of them.

176 ronaldusmagnus  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:01:54am

re: #134 tfc3rid

I think the editing is questionable and the questions were clearly pandering to the lefties and trying to hand deliver them a sound byte...

That's it! I watched last night and kept thinking: What is Gibson driving at on some of these questions? Is he looking for a specific word or phrase? I re-called a similar attempt, (by John Roberts I think) to get Bush to say a particular phrase during a White House news conference. It was predicted on lefty websites that "the media" would ask "the question" so that Bush's recorded response could be used by the Kerry campaign. Bush didn't fall for it.

Gibson was just trying to help his pals at Obama HQ.

177 CommonCents  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:02:01am

re: #144 Ringo the Gringo

Here's the tone we can expect for the next 52 days: Clueless Palin Peddles Cliches Under Gibson's Glare

178 freedomplow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:02:10am

New security doctrine pushes more assertive, robust military.


WASHINGTON _ President Bush on Friday released a national security blueprint asserting that America will never again allow another nation to rival it militarily and that pre-emptive attacks, such as the one being considered against Iraq, could become a more commonly employed option.
179 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:02:36am

re: #169 Bubbaman

The unwarranted invasion of soverign nations Bosnia/Serbia

Both the terms "unwarranted" and "invasion" are, to say the least, highly questionable there.


The failed invasion of Sudan and Black Hawk Down.

That's Somalia, not Sudan. And it was actually ordered by GW Bush. Clinton's failure was to adequately support the troops who were already there, and to respond to our men being killed.

180 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:02:36am

re: #147 jwb7605

Yeah, Hannity is definitely the wrong guy for this. That man will just brown-nose his way through the interview as he always does. What a let down.

181 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:02:36am

re: #154 karmic_inquisitor

If you look at the Real Clear Politics "No Toss Ups" electoral map, it first appears to be good news for Obama.

Flip any of the following states to McCain and Obama loses (ties go to McCain)

1) New Hampshire
2) Michigan
3) New Mexico
4) Colorado
5) Pennsylvania
6) Oregon
7) Washington
8) Wisconsin
9) New Jersey

Any one of those flips and Obama loses. And they are all in play. And many have expensive media markets.

I think more than one of those will flip. Colorado, Washington, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are very distinct possibilities for flipping. I would also expect New Hampshire and New Mexico to flip as well. If McCain picked up Minnesota, Wisconsin, and New Jersey, this election is a rout. I just don't see Oregon flipping yet.

I'd love to see Illinois buck Chicago and go red this time. I'd laugh myself silly if it did.

182 Adrenalyn  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:02:39am

re: #159 alegrias

* * *

And that was only the last in a series of UNANSWERED actS of war against US embassies & citizens, in October 2000.

Mr. Cohen had no business or relevant experience to have been named Secretary of Defense except he was a weak Republican willing to curry Clinton favor.

that is the problem:

we need a "Secretary of Offense"
and I have humbly submitted my name as a viable candidate

I've been vetted, can pass a good strong background check, don't cheat on my wife, kick puppies or frequent sex clubs

183 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:02:44am

I've never previously had an opinion on Charlie Gibson before, but after watching him try to play "gottcha" with Governor Palin, he can kiss my ass.

184 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:03am

re: #153 realwest

Absolutely spot on comment. Not sufficiently provocative, indeed.
Ya know, go ahead and bomb a US Navy ship and KILL U.S. sailors - no problem.
We'll chuck Tomahawks at aspirin factories to keep you in line.

With President Obama we wouldn't even do something that offensive. We would have a coffee klatch get-together and discuss why the EVIIIIIL USA forces the people to attack us and what we will do to appease them.

185 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:04am

re: #120 alegrias

For lefties, that doesn't count.
He's got white hair - he's o-l-d!
And old is b-a-d! And boring!

Its the fascist attitude to the body beautiful (and young) which lurks behind this ageism - but you knew that.

186 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:22am

I thought I read the other day that McCain is now leading in New Mexico.

187 Miss Trixie  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:36am

I've always understood the Clinton Doctrine to be more like a Turkey Shoot.

Bubba: "You gobble - I'll shoot."

188 Deafdog  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:39am

re: #161 DaddyO

That depends on how you define the word "is"


That is the most memorable quote from Clinton's 8 years in office.

Amazing but true

189 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:49am

Geraldo just got knocked on his ass!

190 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:56am

re: #167 cblesz

Well, can you freaking enlighten us when you make comments like that...

:D

191 jill e  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:03:59am

re: #63 Honorary Yooper

Every time an Obamanik talks,
A PUMA gets her trunk.

EXACTLY! Women do not like seeing men treat other women like this. It tends to piss us off and politics go right out the window.

192 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:04:27am

I hope someone caught it for YouTube.

193 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:04:43am

re: #154 karmic_inquisitor

Looks like we might be recreating 1984 instead of 1968. I like this much better.

194 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:04:57am

re: #126 Semper Gumbi

Sean Hannity is scheduled to do the next Palin interview.

Hannity on deck to interview Palin

finally, one of "ours".

195 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:04:57am

re: #180 rednaxela

Yeah, Hannity is definitely the wrong guy for this. That man will just brown-nose his way through the interview as he always does. What a let down.


Nonesense, Hannity will ask tough questions, he just won't be an asshole through the entire interview.

Sheesh!

196 USA  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:09am
197 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:10am

re: #182 Adrenalyn

or frequent sex clubs

I detect an escape clause...

/

198 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:17am

re: #186 Sharmuta

The latest poll has him ahead, but RCP (wisely) averages polls to help dampen statistical noise.

Since many states haven't been polled in a while, McCain may already be ahead in several of them.

199 SummerSong  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:29am

Hahaha. Geraldo just ate it on live TV.

200 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:31am

re: #122 doppelganglander
"That is a spectacularly stupid strategy. I think it would even put off younger voters whose parents or grandparents are computer illiterate. My mom, at 79, doesn't know one end of a mouse from another, but she is far from stupid."
My mom is going on 84, but otherwise everything you said applies here, too.
One thing that the Obama "braintrust" forgets about elderly or older Americans: They actually turn out TO VOTE. Hell my Mom's retirement home (until we decided we'd both be better of living together) used to use BUSSES so the residents could get to polling places in time to vote.
He really screwed up with this and is SO immature, I have no doubt that he will continue to alienate older Americans, thinking, incorrectly, that that will please his mass of younger supporters.

201 Athos  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:32am

re: #154 karmic_inquisitor

I think the pucker factor at the DNC and in the daily Obama campaign conference calls has got to increasing significantly. His campaign has been slipping since the speech in Berlin and they have spent the last 2 weeks off message focusing on McCain's running mate as opposed to McCain.

Unless they turn it around, it will be a big win for McCain in Nov and the Repubs will regain the House.

I just don't see the turn around happening. The hard left, when pressed against the wall, will not move to the center or compromise, but instead will become even more fanatic and vile.

202 Bubbaman  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:32am

What I love about Palin is that she clings to her guns and religion - all of the things that normal people embrace and the demoncraps find so contemptible .

203 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:35am

re: #178 freedomplow

New security doctrine pushes more assertive, robust military.

Oh man, moonbat and MSM heads are gonna blow after that one.

204 KimZigfeld  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:36am

The fact is that regardless of what Palin knows or doesn't know about the "Bush doctrine" less than 1% of Gibson's listeners know nothing about it, and he clearly doesn't himself. So it's totally unprofessional to ask about it without defining it. Palin is doing two jobs at once, hers and his.

And let's give credit where credit is due, folks. Palin is great but it was John McCain who put her in place, a pretty convincing proof of his abilities.

Every attack on Palin's family raises, without Republicans saying a word, all the personal flaws in Obama's background. They're just her kids, he's trying to be president.

Every attack on Palin of any personal kind polarizes female voters and reminds all voters that Obama doesn't mean it when he says he's different.

Every -- totally insane -- attack on her "readiness" or "credentials" reminds voters, without Republicans saying word, of how utterly unqualified Obama is. By nominating Biden he admits he's not qualified to run foreign policy, but he leaves his total lack of executive experience exposed.

On top of that, she's young, she's dynamic, she's sexy and she's conservative, beloved by the base.

Why, it's almost as if John McCain actually knows what he's doing, isn't it?

205 Russkilitlover  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:41am

re: #192 MandyManners

I hope someone caught it for YouTube.

Do tell!

206 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:51am

re: #189 MandyManners

Geraldo just got knocked on his ass!

Again?

207 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:05:51am

re: #177 CommonCents

Jeremy Gerard is a complete ass. Feel free to use this email link to express your approval of his piece of crap.


Who the hell is Jeremy Gerard? And frankly, who gives a shit what he has to say?

208 cblesz  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:02am

re: #194 Vergeltung

finally, one of "ours".

Apparently the campaign saw the disgusting way headmaster Gibson treated Palin...utterly sickening

209 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:19am

re: #191 jill e

EXACTLY! Women do not like seeing men treat other women like this. It tends to piss us off and politics go right out the window.


Remember when Rick Lazzio walked accross the debate stage to hand Hillary a piece of paper during their Senate debate?

It was said that was what doomed Lazzio.

210 novanglus  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:21am

How politically correct of ABC News to select an apparently middle easterner with a British accent to stand in for "Chiding Charlie" Gibson.

211 Deafdog  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:35am

re: #181 Honorary Yooper

I think more than one of those will flip. Colorado, Washington, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are very distinct possibilities for flipping. I would also expect New Hampshire and New Mexico to flip as well. If McCain picked up Minnesota, Wisconsin, and New Jersey, this election is a rout. I just don't see Oregon flipping yet.

I'd love to see Illinois buck Chicago and go red this time. I'd laugh myself silly if it did.

I like the sentiment, but Colorado would not be a flip. GWB won CO in both 2000 and 2004.

212 opnion  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:41am

Gibson should not be proud of this. His style was badgering & immature.
My guess is that he took so much flak for he & Stephonapolis asking barry tough questions during a debate that he was making amends.
He is probably trying to get back on the A invitee list for all of the socko dinner parties.

213 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:44am

re: #132 JammieWearingFool

She sounded like a real nut. She was comparing Rush to Michael Moore and saying how nobody should listen to him.
Really smug and sanctimonious.

thanks for the nutshell brother man. :)

214 CommonCents  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:45am

re: #199 SummerSong

Hahaha. Geraldo just ate it on live TV.

I don't have live TV at work. Did he get punched or is this related to Ike?

215 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:46am

re: #199 SummerSong
What happened - please do NOT leave out any juicy details, I HATE Geraldo!

216 novanglus  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:06:58am

on 9/11

217 kynna  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:17am

re: #179 Occasional Reader

That's Somalia, not Sudan. And it was actually ordered by G H W Bush. Clinton's failure was to adequately support the troops who were already there, and to respond to our men being killed.

Had to fix that. Didn't want anybody getting confused. Carry on. :D

218 cblesz  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:23am

re: #199 SummerSong

Hahaha. Geraldo just ate it on live TV.


CAN WE STOP WITH COMMENTS REGARDING RADIO AND/OR TV WITHOUT EXPLAINING. IT IS RIDICULOUS. SOME ARE AT WORK AND CANNOT SEE THE TV OR HEAR THE RADIO...

219 DaddyO  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:25am

re: #189 MandyManners

Geraldo just got knocked on his ass!


in a fight ?
Where? How?

220 republic  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:25am

re: #198 karmic_inquisitor

The latest poll has him ahead, but RCP (wisely) averages polls to help dampen statistical noise.

Since many states haven't been polled in a while, McCain may already be ahead in several of them.

I actually believe that if Americans could be honestly polled, in mass, McCain/Palin would be up, like 70-30.

221 ContraJihadi  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:31am

re: #4 soccerdad

He was so smarmy and condescending....I live blogged it here last night. What a frickin' pig he was. Gave her VERY little respect.

Yes, his suggestion that Palin was displaying hubris was certainly a case of projection.

222 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:31am
223 CommonCents  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:35am

re: #207 JammieWearingFool

Who the hell is Jeremy Gerard? And frankly, who gives a shit what he has to say?

He wrote the P.O.S. article at Bloomberg. The link to his story was what I was replying to.

224 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:07:49am

re: #217 kynna

Had to fix that. Didn't want anybody getting confused. Carry on. :D

Whoops, sorry, and thanks.

225 opnion  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:08:04am

re: #172 realwest

Well, what did you say?

226 Athos  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:08:26am

re: #183 Sharmuta

Unfortunately, there is very little difference with the big anchors at the 'big' networks - they all live, eat, and defecate within the same very small echo chamber.

227 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:08:29am

re: #210 novanglus

How politically correct of ABC News to select an apparently middle easterner with a British accent to stand in for "Chiding Charlie" Gibson.

Martin Beshir (sp?), that did the Michael Jackson documentary?

228 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:08:46am

Wow! Look at that thing that's on t.v. right now! That is simply the most incredible thing I've ever seen!

/

229 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:00am

re: #193 FurryOldGuyJeans

Looks like we might be recreating 1984 instead of 1968. I like this much better.

I liked 1980 the best. I was only 14, but I understood what a mess Carter had made of our economy and national security. Reagan's inauguration was one of the happiest days of my life up to then. And it was accompanied by the release of our hostages in Iran, and followed by our victory over the Russians in Olympic hockey. I don't think the importance of that victory can be overestimated. It had almost the same effect on the national psyche as winning an actual war.

230 novanglus  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:06am

Charlie Gibson's "Al Gore Moment" - perhaps someone can splice together his condescending facial expressions and "surely you don't really believe this" snarkiness. It reminded me of Al Gore huffing and puffing during the debate with W. I hope it ruins his career, too.

231 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:09am

re: #135 Egfrow
"Pakistan has ordered attacks of US Forces in Afghanistan and the border area."
Uh, WHAT? Do you have a link, please?

232 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:10am

re: #154 karmic_inquisitor

Very true that map, No Toss Ups has not changed in weeks, even as the states have moved from Obama to Toss up. But I am expecting massive fraud, especially in Ohio and Washington, if need be they will try to steal New Jersey.

233 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:17am

If anyone is inclined to email that douche Jeremy Gerard, do a fisking of his column and send it to him. I used to do that to Jonathan Alter all the time and it drove him nuts.

234 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:20am

re: #147 jwb7605

Unfortunately I agree with the "left wing" comments.
Brit Hume would be my top choice.
Hannity will suck up, and it will be obvious.

aww - as if no other journalist on any of the MSM TV channels has ever sucked up to B0 - no, course not, they're sooo impartial that they ask B0 about Michelle and his kids and put up with his umming just to stay longer in his presence ...

235 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:21am

re: #227 Ward Cleaver

Martin Beshir

The doctor from Deepspace Nine?

236 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:34am

re: #228 Occasional Reader

Wow! Look at that thing that's on t.v. right now! That is simply the most incredible thing I've ever seen!

/

What? What?

237 CommonCents  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:38am

re: #228 Occasional Reader

Wow! Look at that thing that's on t.v. right now! That is simply the most incredible thing I've ever seen!

/

I love the sense of humor.

238 Deafdog  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:47am

re: #228 Occasional Reader


LOL

239 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:09:55am

re: #228 Occasional Reader

Wow! Look at that thing that's on t.v. right now! That is simply the most incredible thing I've ever seen!

/

It is impudent? If it is, we do have permission to kill if after all.

240 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:01am

re: #189 MandyManners

Geraldo just got knocked on his ass!

Nice to see Ike kicking Geraldo's ass.

241 Bubbaman  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:04am

re: #217 kynna

My bad, I'm sick at home in bed with a fever, chills, and myalgias. I must be delusional.

242 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:14am
243 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:23am

re: #189 MandyManners

Geraldo just got knocked on his ass!

what a drama queen.
(i bet he fell on purpose)

244 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:38am

re: #232 lifeofthemind

Very true that map, No Toss Ups has not changed in weeks, even as the states have moved from Obama to Toss up. But I am expecting massive fraud, especially in Ohio and Washington, if need be they will try to steal New Jersey.

If you get enough folks out to the polls, they can't cheat.

245 SagamoreGal  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:39am

Never in the history of political campaigning has any candidate been expected to be Winston Churchill, Theodore Roosevelt, Aristotle, Milton Friedman, Albert Einstein, and Mother Courage all rolled up in a neat little package.

246 Adrenalyn  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:47am

re: #197 Occasional Reader

I detect an escape clause...

/


ah, but I do use the "eff" word, usually reserved for the description of sex acts, on a frequent basis

it's not very professional I will grant you
but it gets across a certain level of resolve
when dealing with a difficult situation
and the need to demonstate capability/desire to respond forcefully

247 jill e  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:10:53am

Liz at Wizbang blog: "Am I the only one who thought ABC hired Ed Wood to edit the interview?”

248 Alouette  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:03am

re: #144 Ringo the Gringo

Here's the tone we can expect for the next 52 days: Clueless Palin Peddles Cliches Under Gibson's Glare

The fancy pants elites are in full meltdown.

249 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:06am

Oh my God! It's awesome isn't it OR! Look at the size of it! It's blocking out the sun!

250 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:07am

Of course if we decided to boycott ABC en masse the Left will accuse us of being evil practitioners of censorship.

I decided to boycott a book store because they in their newsletter equated the GOP with the rioters outside the RNC and also called them a bunch of clowns. And some asshole drops comments on my blog claiming that I'm violating their right to free speech by boycotting them.

[Seriously. Les spent a good part of the early morning tearing that idiot a new one.]

251 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:08am

re: #231 realwest

"Pakistan has ordered attacks of US Forces in Afghanistan and the border area."
Uh, WHAT? Do you have a link, please?

Ditto. Say what?

252 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:09am

re: #218 cblesz

CAN WE STOP WITH COMMENTS REGARDING RADIO AND/OR TV WITHOUT EXPLAINING. IT IS RIDICULOUS. SOME ARE AT WORK AND CANNOT SEE THE TV OR HEAR THE RADIO...

Doesn't bother me. Carry on IMHO.

253 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:13am

re: #226 Athos

Unfortunately, there is very little difference with the big anchors at the 'big' networks - they all live, eat, and defecate within the same very small echo chamber.

I know- but I don't get my news from them, so I don't really have any idea until I see something like this just how bad it is. People out there still rely on these people for news? That's...... stunning.

254 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:17am

re: #223 CommonCents

He wrote the P.O.S. article at Bloomberg. The link to his story was what I was replying to.

I realize he is the author. I was just using a figure of speech. Frankly, never heard of the guy and he comes off as a typical MSM hack.

255 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:19am

re: #242 buzzsawmonkey

Well, Rush is cleaner and more articulate than Moore--if I may say so.

Nice Bidenism!

256 Globular Cluster  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:28am

Ultimately, the question of "experience" especially in foreign policy, is irrelevant. Both sides are guilty of focusing on a stupid prerequisite. Harry Truman never had any foreign policy experience, never met with a head of state until he was president. Ditto for many others. How many of our founding fathers visited Europe? How many of them met with heads of state? Did Abe Lincoln meet with the British parliament?

What foreign policy experience did Bill Clinton have? Reagan?

257 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:34am

re: #243 nyc redneck

what a drama queen.
(i bet he fell on purpose)

Embellishment! Embellishment!

/wayne's world

258 kynna  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:45am

re: #224 Occasional Reader

Whoops, sorry, and thanks.

No prob. I'm always surprised when people think that Clinton put US soldiers in Somalia. The humanitarian mission was G. H. W. Bush's, but the disastrous outcome was Clinton's.

259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:47am

re: #240 Honorary Yooper

Nice to see Ike kicking Geraldo's ass.

I like Ike.

260 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:58am

re: #195 republic

Hannity is even worse than O'Reilly. Completely full of himself and obsequious to no end.

No, for it to be a credible, intelligent and informative interview, its got to be with someone like Bob Shieffer.

261 Athos  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:11:59am

re: #233 JammieWearingFool

If anyone is inclined to email that douche Jeremy Gerard, do a fisking of his column and send it to him. I used to do that to Jonathan Alter all the time and it drove him nuts.

That's no drive, it's a gimme putt. He, like most of the elitists in the MSM, are nuts.

262 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:12:07am

re: #189 MandyManners

Geraldo just got knocked on his ass!

Physically or mentally?

263 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:12:09am

re: #249 Tigger2005

Oh my God! It's awesome isn't it OR! Look at the size of it! It's blocking out the sun!

It's swallowing New York City! Oh the humanity!

264 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:12:41am

re: #154 karmic_inquisitor

If you look at the Real Clear Politics "No Toss Ups" electoral map, it first appears to be good news for Obama.

Flip any of the following states to McCain and Obama loses (ties go to McCain)

1) New Hampshire
2) Michigan
3) New Mexico
4) Colorado
5) Pennsylvania
6) Oregon
7) Washington
8) Wisconsin
9) New Jersey

Any one of those flips and Obama loses. And they are all in play. And many have expensive media markets.

We won't flip New Jersey. The machines are programmed to deliver an electric shock to anyone pushing an "R" lever.

265 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:12:46am

re: #262 The Other Les

Physically or mentally?

When it comes to his ass, is there a difference?

266 Athos  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:13:02am

re: #261 Athos

are = is.
PIMF

267 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:13:16am

Look! It's landing in Central Park!

268 MonkeySon  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:13:17am

I couldn't finish it. Sarah is fine, but gibson's smarmy attitude is just too sickening.

269 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:13:40am

re: #264 experiencedtraveller

We won't flip New Jersey. The machines are programmed to deliver an electric shock to anyone pushing an "R" lever.

Wear rubber boots!

270 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:13:43am

re: #249 Tigger2005

Oh my God! It's awesome isn't it OR! Look at the size of it! It's blocking out the sun!

And all those nekkid Brazlian models, too! I've never imagined anything like it!

Wait... well, it's over now.

271 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:13:53am

Did she even say "uh" once?

272 bulwrk  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:05am

re: #200 realwest

I imagine senior citizens don't like the the whole McCain is 72 years old and could die any day now line of attack taken by Democrats.

273 Egfrow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:14am

re: #231 realwest

"Pakistan has ordered attacks of US Forces in Afghanistan and the border area."
Uh, WHAT? Do you have a link, please?

The Link

274 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:15am

re: #193 FurryOldGuyJeans

Looks like we might be recreating 1984 instead of 1968. I like this much better.

Well Mondale was an idiot but he wasn't as dumb as The Big ZERO and his followers.

[Les, you just defended Walter Mondale.]

275 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:19am

re: #221 ContraJihadi

Yeah, the hubris comment completely exposed Charlie as the condescending, elitist asswipe that he is.

276 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:26am

re: #261 Athos

That's no drive, it's a gimme putt. He, like most of the elitists in the MSM, are nuts.

I should have saved his emails. He used to go crazy on me and I would mercilessly taunt him. Then I moved on to Olbermann and sent him over the edge.

Admittedly, not difficult, but it was most amusing.

277 Observer52  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:32am

Worked last night so didn't get to see interview until today.
.
The only time I have ever used the word ' hubris ' in my life was when I was talking about the current main stream media. Did he enjoy the slam to Sarah? A "body language" expert on this morning ABC show kept saying that Sarah's closed fist indicates her uncontrollable temper toward Mr. Gibson. (Gibsen ?). Possibility asked this question. With the table removed by Mr. Gibson. And the pair are knee to knee. Why is he trying to show up Sarah with his legs? I don't remember him doing this with anybody else except with a Hooter girl interview. No...no.... I'm sorry that kind of interview is done standing up. Sarah needs more in depth interviews from the likes of Mr. Gibsen. Gibson. His expertize in no hold back interviewing with ABC are a necessary part of the media to explain to you what you saw and heard was wrong....... The colour is blue.

278 opnion  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:42am

re: #230 novanglus

Charlie Gibson's "Al Gore Moment" - perhaps someone can splice together his condescending facial expressions and "surely you don't really believe this" snarkiness. It reminded me of Al Gore huffing and puffing during the debate with W. I hope it ruins his career, too.

This interview should have been done in the governors office.
She should have been seated in an executive chair, behind her desk with Gibson sitting in a chair in front of her.
That would have ceded the power position to her & he would have looked even sillier with his glasses perched on the tip of his nose.

279 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:14:47am

re: #269 jcm

I'll have to do that anyway just to get through all the poop Ears is shovelling.

280 Basho  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:00am

re: #94 Gretchen

OT

now they are making fun of McCain for computer skills? Let's alienate old people! Brilliant! Two core constituencies. Note to the insular Obama crew lots of over 40s aren't computer savy.

George Washington didn't even need a wristwatch to lead the country.

Seriously, what does computer SkiLLz have to do with being a leader. I guess Barry has such a lame resume he has to emphasize he can check email.

281 joekowalski247  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:00am

The "Preger Doctrine".... Humiliate not Educate

way to go charlie ,keep those amazing intriguing questions coming. whats next? boxers or briefs?

282 MonkeySon  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:13am

re: graldo.
He's covering the hurricane, standing in the surf surge and got knocked down by the water.

283 Dianna  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:20am

re: #169 Bubbaman

No, the Clinton Doctrine was framed by (in no particlar order)...

WTC bombing I
The USS Cole,
US Embassy bombings in Africa,
Ignoring the slaughter of 1 million innocents in Rwanda,
The unwarranted invasion of soverign nations Bosnia/Serbia,
The failed invasion of Sudan and Black Hawk Down.
Should I go on?

Somalia, don't you mean?

284 saberry0530  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:30am

re: #187 Miss Trixie

I've always understood the Clinton Doctrine to be more like a Turkey Shoot.

Bubba: "You gobble - I'll shoot."

SOrry she had to be a drooler.
There are only three classifications: Spitter, Drooler, and swallower.

285 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:36am

re: #174 kynna
I'd druther have Shep Smith do it myself. Dude doesn't take himself too seriously, but is a pretty good interviewer.

286 Pelkabo  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:39am

Palin must have done rather poorly. McCain's chances of winning the election (per Intrade investors) jumped by only three points after the interview.

287 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:15:48am
288 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:16:16am

re: #282 MonkeySon

Standing in the water? What an idiot.

289 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:16:25am

Real storm chasers do tornados anyways.

290 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:16:37am

re: #229 Tigger2005

I liked 1980 the best. I was only 14, but I understood what a mess Carter had made of our economy and national security. Reagan's inauguration was one of the happiest days of my life up to then. And it was accompanied by the release of our hostages in Iran, and followed by our victory over the Russians in Olympic hockey. I don't think the importance of that victory can be overestimated. It had almost the same effect on the national psyche as winning an actual war.

I cited 1984 for the simple reason that the media had totally mis-stated that Reagan would lose, did their damnedest to get Walter Mondale elected, and Reagan went on the achieve one of the largest routs in modern political history. Just marvel at the electoral map. How sweet would a recreation of that would be.

291 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:16:39am

re: #284 saberry0530

Um, let's maintain at least some tiny, tiny sense of propriety here.

292 Mr. Sandman  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:16:59am

Well, Charlie Gibson gave a partial, not inaccurate answer as to what the Bush Doctrine entails. Anyone unbiased observer of this clip will acknowledge that it looks as if Governor Palin has just heard that phrase, "Bush Doctrine," for the first time in this interview. Clearly she does not have the foreign policy knowledge qualifications for a VP selection, especially from a campaign that set the standard for "experience" as the main issue; this is hypocrisy. She was chosen solely for political reasons by McCain, not because he believes she's best for the job, though I must acknowledge how successful politically this choice was; it looks like you guys are winning now, and I must reluctantly acknowledge that the American public, by and large, doesn't care about "issues," but what choice for President makes them "feel" good vs. bad. The republicans have been masters at exploiting this for many years, to win by manipulation. McCain will probably win.

293 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:17:16am

To me, Gibson's demeanor was one of a disappointed professor. He called her into the office for one last chance.. and she blew it. The hostility coming off him was palpable.

294 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:17:25am

re: #228 Occasional Reader

Wow! Look at that thing that's on t.v. right now! That is simply the most incredible thing I've ever seen!

/

What? The penguin?

295 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:17:35am

Well, they did say Ike was life threatening, so maybe it's good Geraldo is there.

/

296 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:09am

re: #179 Occasional Reader
IIRC, O.R., Clinton put our troops in harm's way in Somalia, not Bush and it was Clinton, not Bush who, after seeing dead or nearly dead American Rangers dragged through the streets, who ordered a precipitous withdrawal.

297 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:16am

re: #295 JammieWearingFool

Well, they did say Ike was life threatening, so maybe it's good Geraldo is there.

/

His talking may blow it back to sea......

298 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:27am

re: #272 bulwrk

Let Barry just speak for himself, he'll get himself tongue tied in his own noose. Hi latest ad sure goes a long way.

299 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:28am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

"Grunt."

300 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:29am

re: #172 realwest

You didn't respond - "WHO"? - spit.

301 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:32am

re: #245 SagamoreGal

Never in the history of political campaigning has any candidate been expected to be Winston Churchill, Theodore Roosevelt, Aristotle, Milton Friedman, Albert Einstein, and Mother Courage all rolled up in a neat little package.

But it certainly helps.

302 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:37am

It's not a poll, but it is concrete and I think it's telling- lipstick sales are up.

303 freedomplow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:18:55am

The Bush doctrine
By Charles Krauthammer

This decade starts with a return to the unabashed unilateralism of the '80s. It began last year with a speech by George W. Bush proposing that the U.S. build weapons to meet American needs--and not to accommodate the complaints or gain the agreement of other countries. For 40 years we would not cut our offensive nuclear missiles except in conjunction with Soviet cuts. Bush's refreshing question was: Why? We don't need Russians cutting our offensive weapons through arms-control treaties. And we don't need Russians telling us whether or not to build defensive weapons.

This was the genesis of the Bush Doctrine, now taking shape as the Administration takes power. Its motto is, We build to suit--ourselves. Accordingly, the President and the Secretary of Defense have been unequivocal about their determination to go ahead with a missile defense.

304 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:19:06am

re: #294 The Other Les

What? The penguin?

Every thread needs a Monty Python reference.

305 Egfrow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:19:18am

re: #302 Sharmuta

Haha!

306 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:19:24am

Here is a shocker:

This is the most emailed item at CNN right now.

Commentary: The Sarah Palin smear-fest

By Glenn Beck
CNN

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Campaigns are ugly. Watching the way politicians act makes you long for the respect and self-control of the Sopranos. Throughout, there are legitimate attacks and outright lies.

Every once in a while, I get a call on my radio show from someone telling me that Barack Obama is secretly a Muslim, who admitted it in an interview with George Stephanopoulos, and has a fake birth certificate. No, no, and no. As I tell them, there are legitimate reasons not to vote for Barack Obama, no need to make them up.

But the newest target is Sarah Palin. Let's take a quick look at just a fraction of what she has faced in her first few days as John McCain's choice for vice president.

307 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:19:30am

re: #271 Sharmuta

Did she even say "uh" once?

that alone should get the mccain/palin ticket elected.
obama's stuttering, uh-uh-uh delivery is so bad.
he has never spoken off the cuff like a person qualified to be potus.
what an embarrassment the dems have offered this country.

308 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:20:06am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

McCain will probably win.

Well said sir!

309 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:20:15am

re: #265 karmic_inquisitor

When it comes to his ass, is there a difference?

Not really.

310 Shug  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:20:17am

re: #307 nyc redneck

The idiot MSM thinks the "Uhs" show that he's thoughtful and nuanced

311 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:20:31am

re: #183 Sharmuta

I've never previously had an opinion on Charlie Gibson before, but after watching him try to play "gottcha" with Governor Palin, he can kiss my ass.

It is now relatively "tomorrow afternoon".
Based on reviewer's opinions (in print and on TV):

Charlie Gibson is a tool, and Sarah Palin did as well as could be expected, given the questions and the tone of the questions.

I am now not worried about the upcoming debates as far as "public opinion" goes.

312 Egfrow  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:20:34am

re: #272 bulwrk

I imagine senior citizens don't like the the whole McCain is 72 years old and could die any day now line of attack taken by Democrats.

Considering that over 40% of the population is in that Demographic.

313 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:20:41am

re: #189 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy! PLEASE tell us how Geraldo got knocked on his ass!

Oh and BTW - are you still working on that blog about Islam/Women? I sure hope so, because it's more than obvious that NOW and other "Feminists" could give a damn about the plight of women in Muslim countries.

314 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:21:00am

re: #303 freedomplow

The Bush doctrine
By Charles Krauthammer

Nice find - yet another definition.

315 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:21:02am
316 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:21:07am

re: #270 Occasional Reader

And all those nekkid Brazlian models, too! I've never imagined anything like it!

Wait... well, it's over now.

So is the Royal Canadian Air Force going to drop a giant cherry or what?

317 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:21:11am

re: #290 FurryOldGuyJeans

I cited 1984 for the simple reason that the media had totally mis-stated that Reagan would lose, did their damnedest to get Walter Mondale elected, and Reagan went on the achieve one of the largest routs in modern political history. Just marvel at the electoral map. How sweet would a recreation of that would be.

Oh yes. I vividly remember that election night. I'd proudly cast the first vote of my life, for Reagan, at the local Methodist church, then went home to watch the election coverage. Watching that tide of red (or blue) sweeping across the map was magnificent.

318 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:21:13am

re: #296 realwest

IIRC, O.R., Clinton put our troops in harm's way in Somalia, not Bush and it was Clinton, not Bush who, after seeing dead or nearly dead American Rangers dragged through the streets, who ordered a precipitous withdrawal.

If was an absolute Charlie Fox, but our guys kicked some serious ass. That one day we put a serious dent in the OpFor capabilities, if we'd followed up intelligently...... instead we pull out. OBL sees we can't take a Ranger being drug through the street and decides we are weak.

319 Meremortal  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:21:59am

Drive-by and OT: I only saw a bit of the 9/11 memorial ceremony yesterday. I saw the McCains and I saw Barack. I didn't see Michelle. Did I just miss her, or did she skip the ceremony?

320 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:22:24am

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I like Ike.

Funny thing is, Ike looks like he's only going to be a Cat 2 at landfall. I'm rather amused at how the news articles call satying "certain death". Certain death my ass. The storm surge is suppsoed to be less than the 1900 Galveston hurricane, and they have this nice 17 foot high seawall there that should keep most of the storm surge in the Gulf.

The only reason Katrina killed so many is because the levees were ill-maintained, and people living below sea level failed to evacuate. Last time I looked, Galveston and Houston aren't in bowls below sea level between a brackish lake and a massive river.

321 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:22:45am

re: #306 karmic_inquisitor

Once again CNN sees a problem but will do nothing to correct the deficiency. They are one of the worst offenders on the Palin Media Pig Pile.

322 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:22:52am

re: #319 Meremortal

She wasn't there. I believe someone around here said it was her kids' first day of school.

323 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:23:09am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Incorrect. She knew exactly what GWB has been doing and why and laid it out. As for knowing the meaning of the so-called Bush doctrine, she was right to seek clarification. In any case, we do not know whether she had heard that term before or not.

324 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:23:37am

re: #297 jcm

His talking may blow it back to sea......

I though he was going to drop a load in his pants last week in New Orleans when he saw the guy in the canal, who just happened to have a life vest on and was securing a stray propane tank. He thought he had some hot scoop. I almost wish he jumped in to rescue him.

Honestly, I don't see the point of putting reporters on the scene. Just fasten some cameras in secure locations and let the pictures tell the story. Fly in the reporters later and let them cover the aftermath.

They'll probably start doing that once one of them gets killed by some flying debris.

325 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:23:45am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Well, Charlie Gibson gave a partial, not inaccurate answer as to what the Bush Doctrine entails. Anyone unbiased observer of this clip will acknowledge that it looks as if Governor Palin has just heard that phrase, "Bush Doctrine," for the first time in this interview. Clearly she does not have the foreign policy knowledge qualifications for a VP selection, especially from a campaign that set the standard for "experience" as the main issue; this is hypocrisy. She was chosen solely for political reasons by McCain, not because he believes she's best for the job, though I must acknowledge how successful politically this choice was; it looks like you guys are winning now, and I must reluctantly acknowledge that the American public, by and large, doesn't care about "issues," but what choice for President makes them "feel" good vs. bad. The republicans have been masters at exploiting this for many years, to win by manipulation. McCain will probably win.

You've been registered for over a year an this is your first comment?! It stunk.

326 SummerSong  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:23:47am

re: #214 CommonCents

re: #215 realwest

Wave knocked him over....completely soaked. Removed a dripping cell phone from his pants pocket.

327 NYC_Mike  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:11am

Problem is - it doesnt' matter what she "really" said or the fact that SHE was right and Gibson was wrong. Look all over the net and on TV/Radio today -
what's the stories out of this interview the media is running with:

1. Palin said the Iraq war was "task for God"
(which of course she didn't)

2. Palin was confused about Bush doctrine
(which again, she wasn't)

All I read and head everywhere are the above 2 over and over and over.

And STILL no one has asked Obama a tough question about his past or his qualifications for office.

328 chedub  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:13am

Weird how he keeps asking her about national security. As I recall during the Decomratic primary debates the network hosts spent most of the time asking about each candidates' "wonderful" plan for healthcare and then only turned to items like national security during the last 5-10 minutes. Just an observation on my part, surely it couldn't a implication of media bias or anything.

329 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:16am

re: #280 Basho

George Washington didn't even need a wristwatch to lead the country.


But digital watches are still a pretty neat thing.

330 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:19am

Look at that... the little green creature looks like it's about to say something ...

331 imtoast  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:26am

What a remarkable woman. Obviously her position has not gone to her head as she treated Gibson appropriately. Had it been me Gibson would be asking his questions on his back from the floor. What a contemptible piece of shit he is.

332 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:27am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Wow, registered 14 months ago, and one comment. How profound.

/not

333 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:33am

re: #323 rednaxela

Incorrect. She knew exactly what GWB has been doing and why and laid it out. As for knowing the meaning of the so-called Bush doctrine, she was right to seek clarification. In any case, we do not know whether she had heard that term before or not.

I agree she was right to ask for clarification- she smelled a set up and she was right. The lady has great instincts.

334 CommonCents  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:34am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Back to sleep Mr. Sandman.

335 kcladderman  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:24:54am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Well, Charlie Gibson gave a partial, not inaccurate answer as to what the Bush Doctrine entails. Anyone unbiased observer of this clip will acknowledge that it looks as if Governor Palin has just heard that phrase, "Bush Doctrine," for the first time in this interview. Clearly she does not have the foreign policy knowledge qualifications for a VP selection, especially from a campaign that set the standard for "experience" as the main issue; this is hypocrisy. She was chosen solely for political reasons by McCain, not because he believes she's best for the job, though I must acknowledge how successful politically this choice was; it looks like you guys are winning now, and I must reluctantly acknowledge that the American public, by and large, doesn't care about "issues," but what choice for President makes them "feel" good vs. bad. The republicans have been masters at exploiting this for many years, to win by manipulation. McCain will probably win.


You are right Gov Palin is no Obama.
THANK GOD!

336 CommonCents  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:25:15am

re: #326 SummerSong

Thanks for the update. I'll see it later.

337 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:25:24am

re: #315 buzzsawmonkey

He's actually sending secret messages to the initiates in Morse code, just as Pelosi does with her eyelids.


maybe I'm missing something.. I've never seen Pelosi blink..
/

338 Meremortal  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:25:26am

re: #322 KibbyKat

She wasn't there. I believe someone around here said it was her kids' first day of school.


-------------------
Thank you.

339 bulwrk  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:25:31am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

The Bush Doctrine is a made up catch all buzz phrase coined by the news media because they think it sounds cool. If she didn't know what it was the only thing that proves to me is that she doesn't watch ABC CBS NBC or CNN, which IMHO makes her qualified for the VP slot.

340 Rancher  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:25:32am
and they have this nice 17 foot high seawall there that should keep most of the storm surge in the Gulf.


I think Geraldo was on that wall and getting his feet soaked. That was an hour ago. Remeber if a fat guy jumps in the ocean Galviston floods.

341 maddogg  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:25:38am

re: #295 JammieWearingFool

Well, they did say Ike was life threatening, so maybe it's good Geraldo is there.

/

If your that lucky, you should move to Vegas.
BTW. Ike has scheduled an appointment with me for Saturday evening.

343 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:25:59am

re: #225 opnion
I said - remember this was LIVE - that I was surprised at the question, that I'd come to discuss the horrible plight of Vietnam Veterans in trying to find jobs - indeed, the Department of Labor said Vietnam vets were SEVEN TIMES more likely to be unemployed than our non veteran age peers and wouldn't waste any of the stations's precious air time discussing her.

344 the anti-jihadist  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:02am

Malaysia arrests top blogger RPK to 'defend Islam'

The government of Muslim-ruled Malaysia has arrested and detained Malaysia's top blogger, writer and political activist Raja Petra Kamarudin (RPK), founder of the hugely popular (and until recently blocked) anti-government website Malaysia Today. RPK's arrest and detainment is under Malaysia's barbarous ISA law (Internal Security Act), which allows for anyone to be detained indefinitely without appeal and without charge, trial, or legal representation.

The Malaysian authorities, who are all from Malaysia's Muslim ruling party (UMNO), are justifying their actions due to a comment of mine that RPK allowed to be posted at one of his articles, which you can read here. This comment of mine is alleged to be insulting to the precious prophet of the Mohammadens, a man dead for 14 centuries. My comment may be insulting, but I am I being untruthful? I invite our readers to read it for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

345 irongrampa  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:07am

Actually, if you simply read the transcript, which isn't edited (with a chainsaw), Sarah pretty neatly finesesses Charlie on several points--none of which I could detect in the video version.
Overall, she smacked another one out of the park, imho.

346 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:24am

It's funny. I don't think i've ever heard of "the Bush doctrine" before.

Charlie was playing dirty too.

Sarah: Well, what part of it in particular.
Charlie: How do you define it.
Sarah: ... [spreading democracy]
Charlie: No, the right of the US to preemptively strike.

What? He's a bumbling fool. Sarah didn't look weak, she was just confused after he said "how do you define it". He basically made up a word, then let her define it, THEN TOLD HER SHE WAS WRONG. What a moron...


He tried to trap her with "sending your son to Iraq" too... And appropriately, she knew he was trying to do it, and replied "it's his choice".

way to go, Mrs. Palin!

347 Globular Cluster  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:27am

re: #325 Sharmuta

You've been registered for over a year an this is your first comment?! It stunk.

Sarah Palin has more foreign policy experience than Barack, their #1.

348 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:35am

My fear is that the McCain people are making the same mistake the Bush people have made all these years by trying to pander to the MSM, when it should be crystal clear to them that the MSM is beyond recompense.

They should just see it and say it like it is, that the MSM is in the tank for Barry and that that is incorrigible.

349 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:35am

The truth is that no one is qualified to be President, that's why I advocate replacing the office with a troika of network anchors.

350 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:37am

re: #286 Pelkabo

Palin must have done rather poorly. McCain's chances of winning the election (per Intrade investors) jumped by only three points after the interview.

I wasn't entirely happy with my last job interview.

(I don't know if I'm hired yet.)

351 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:26:58am
352 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:27:07am

re: #319 Meremortal

Drive-by and OT: I only saw a bit of the 9/11 memorial ceremony yesterday. I saw the McCains and I saw Barack. I didn't see Michelle. Did I just miss her, or did she skip the ceremony?

She was at home, baking hammer-and-sickle-shaped cookies.

353 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:27:08am

re: #321 FurryOldGuyJeans

Once again CNN sees a problem but will do nothing to correct the deficiency. They are one of the worst offenders on the Palin Media Pig Pile.

What surprised me was that it is a Glenn Beck defense of Palin, and that it is the most emailed there. Lots of eyeballs reading it and passing it around. For CNN's audience, that is refreshing.

It also may indicate that Palin is liked by people who would otherwise drink the Kool Aide.

354 Observer52  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:27:14am

re: #287 buzzsawmonkey

Touche' ................... but I like Wainwright a tad better.

355 ContraJihadi  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:27:14am

re: #276 JammieWearingFool

I should have saved his emails. He used to go crazy on me and I would mercilessly taunt him. Then I moved on to Olbermann and sent him over the edge.

Admittedly, not difficult, but it was most amusing.

I am tempted to become angry at the treatment Sarah was receiving, but I suspect that she thinks of it as a kind of exercise that will strengthen her throughout the rest of the campaign and will prepare her for worse once she become Vice President.

356 Josephine  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:27:21am

Thank you for posting this, Charles.

Sarah Palin did an excellent job.

357 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:27:30am

re: #280 Basho

George Washington didn't even need a wristwatch to lead the country.

Seriously, what does computer SkiLLz have to do with being a leader. I guess Barry has such a lame resume he has to emphasize he can check email.

And what exactly are The O's qualifications regarding the economy? Shaking down local governments and businesses for graft community organising monies? Sticking his face deep into the public trough as a politician?

358 kynna  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:27:44am

re: #296 realwest

IIRC, O.R., Clinton put our troops in harm's way in Somalia, not Bush and it was Clinton, not Bush who, after seeing dead or nearly dead American Rangers dragged through the streets, who ordered a precipitous withdrawal.

I understood O.R. to mean the same thing. In fact this is a good example of how a successor can be a catastrophe when missions are ongoing.

IOW -- vote for McCain! ;D

359 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:28:10am
360 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:28:25am

re: #337 HoosierHoops

maybe I'm missing something.. I've never seen Pelosi blink..
/

With all the cankles and botox I would be surprised if she did.

361 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:28:44am

re: #349 Peacekeeper

The truth is that no one is qualified to be President, that's why I advocate replacing the office with a troika of network anchors.

Ron Burgundy?

362 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:28:53am

re: #290 FurryOldGuyJeans

I cited 1984 for the simple reason that the media had totally mis-stated that Reagan would lose, did their damnedest to get Walter Mondale elected, and Reagan went on the achieve one of the largest routs in modern political history. Just marvel at the electoral map. How sweet would a recreation of that would be.

And looking at the Wiki article, the smalledt margin of victory was in Minnesota, for Mondale. He won Minnesota by 0.18%. Mondale almost lost Minnesota. It could have been a 50 state rout.

363 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:28:58am

The other wonderful point of the interview was where he badgers her about Israel. She should have reminded him that Israel is a sovereign nation and they don't need our permission to do anything.

364 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:29:05am

re: #310 Shug

The idiot MSM thinks the "Uhs" show that he's thoughtful and nuanced

LOL

365 Meremortal  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:29:06am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Bush never declared, "This is my doctrine." The Bush doctrine is a media creation.

Yes, we have a choice. We can have an inexperienced Vice President, or an inexperienced President. I agree that McCain probably wins this election. I can't wait for Barack to undergo a tough interview like Gibson just put on Palin. The number of "uhhs..." will be astronomic.

366 Russkilitlover  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:29:24am

re: #282 MonkeySon

re: graldo.
He's covering the hurricane, standing in the surf surge and got knocked down by the water.

Well that's anti-climatic. Couldn't you have embellished just a bit? ;)

367 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:29:27am

New Obama ad - "John McCain doesn't own an iPod. How can we trust someone who dosen't own an iPod to be our next commander-in-chief?"

/

368 victor_yugo  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:29:53am

re: #277 Observer52

A "body language" expert on this morning ABC show kept saying that Sarah's closed fist indicates her uncontrollable temper toward Mr. Gibson.

And the fact that Gibson doesn't have a black eye today puts the lie to that. If her temper was directed towards him, she did a marvelous job of controlling it.

stupid pop-psycho new-age "expert" WAB

369 desertbrat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:29:58am

"what is the Clinton doctrine?"


"If it is an aspirin factory, I'll pre-emtively take it out"

370 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:30:00am

re: #245 SagamoreGal

Never in the history of political campaigning has any candidate been expected to be Winston Churchill, Theodore Roosevelt, Aristotle, Milton Friedman, Albert Einstein, and Mother Courage all rolled up in a neat little package.

Zelig for POTUS

371 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:30:19am

re: #362 Honorary Yooper

And looking at the Wiki article, the smalledt margin of victory was in Minnesota, for Mondale. He won Minnesota by 0.18%. Mondale almost lost Minnesota. It could have been a 50 state rout.

And still DC would vote Dem. *SIGH*

372 David Simon  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:30:39am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

American public, by and large, doesn't care about "issues," but what choice for President makes them "feel" good vs. bad.

Agreed. How else can you explain the Democratic nominee?

373 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:30:46am

re: #324 JammieWearingFool

The only reporting worth a damn, IMHO, for hurricanes is from The Weather Channel. They don't get so excitied, nor do they dramatize as much. I can't stand the on-site reporting from any other channel.

374 Meremortal  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:30:56am

re: #352 Ward Cleaver

She was at home, baking hammer-and-sickle-shaped cookies.

----
Well, as long as it was something important....

375 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:31:15am

re: #369 desertbrat

"what is the Clinton doctrine?"

Don't even go there... It involves X-rated material

376 kcladderman  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:31:24am

re: #296 realwest

IIRC, O.R., Clinton put our troops in harm's way in Somalia, not Bush and it was Clinton, not Bush who, after seeing dead or nearly dead American Rangers dragged through the streets, who ordered a precipitous withdrawal.

Bush started the humanitarian mission all things were going as planned. Clinton decided to cut the number of American troops and turn the command of the mission over to the UN. Then after the un failed to carry out the mission instead of increasing our forces and taking control he decided to cut and run. A move that Bin Laden himself has said made him think America was a paper tiger.

377 Hard Right  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:32:03am

re: #304 KibbyKat

Every thread needs a Monty Python reference.

INTERCOURSE THE PENGUIN!

378 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:32:14am
379 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:32:34am

re: #369 desertbrat

"what is the Clinton doctrine?"


"If it is an aspirin factory, I'll pre-emtively take it out"


"B**W J*bs are not sex, especially when given/received in the White House."

380 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:32:34am
381 maddogg  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:32:53am

re: #369 desertbrat

"what is the Clinton doctrine?"


"If it is an aspirin factory, I'll pre-emtively take it out"

You got the "Clinton Doctrine" all wrong.....

"When in doubt, whip it out."

382 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:33:33am

re: #371 FurryOldGuyJeans

And still DC would vote Dem. *SIGH*

DC's got its collective head up its collective ass.

383 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:33:35am

re: #273 Egfrow
That link didn't say ANYTHING about Paki forces attacking US forces in Afghanistan my friend.And if the Paki army, which has been so ineffective against the Taliban and Al-Q want to take a shot at our forces, I sure hope they don't get offended by the hundreds of body bags and thousands of Paki Army troops being sent "home".
I mean it: fuck this bullshit - if Pakistan can't keep Al-Q and the Taliban from using Pakistan as a sanctuary (the way Cambodia and Laos couldn't or wouldn't keep the NVA from using Cambodia and Laos as sancturaries) then they better get the hell outta the way.

384 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:33:46am
385 Hard Right  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:33:47am

The Bush Doctrine question will fall flat with everyone but the left. The average American has no clue what it is.

386 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:34:05am

re: #376 kcladderman

Bush started the humanitarian mission all things were going as planned. Clinton decided to cut the number of American troops and turn the command of the mission over to the UN. Then after the un failed to carry out the mission instead of increasing our forces and taking control he decided to cut and run. A move that Bin Laden himself has said made him think America was a paper tiger.

And the Dems have put up another candidate that would take an existing successful military mission and turn it into a rout. whee :/

387 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:34:29am

re: #365 Meremortal


I can't wait for Barack to undergo a tough interview like Gibson just put on Palin. The number of "uhhs..." will be astronomic.

Who would he allow to do that to him? The Gibson interview transcript with Obama should have ended Gibson's career. "How awesome does it feel to be the first black candidate?" "Do you like my hair this way?" Gag.

388 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:34:53am

re: #372 David Simon

Agreed. How else can you explain the Democratic nominee?

Affirmative Action?

389 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:34:54am

re: #185 yma o hyd

For lefties, that doesn't count.
He's got white hair - he's o-l-d!
And old is b-a-d! And boring!

Its the fascist attitude to the body beautiful (and young) which lurks behind this ageism - but you knew that.

* * *
They're willing to use anything now against their former fave politician.

McCain's hair was WHITE in Vietnam when he was 32 to 37 years old.

Maybe you are unaware that until recently, McCain was the MEDIA's Maverick DARLING.

Media types hate that there is a record of their having LOVED McCain's maverick ways.

390 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:35:05am

re: #359 taxfreekiller

mr and ms tfk are going to work for the R ticket in New Mexico and Colorado.

expect two wins there!

AWESOME!

391 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:35:10am

re: #282 MonkeySon

OMG, did he drown!? er, ah, I mean, was the poor guy hurt?

392 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:35:19am

re: #327 NYC_Mike


Just saw an ad for the Palin interview with the headline: "Iraq a holy war"? and Gov. Palin's smiling face under it.

Now I'd guess that 1 out of 10 (or more) actually listen to the interview, but 9 out of 10 after seeing the ad would believe that Palin actually said Iraq was a holy war, instaed of the truth which is that at worst she said it wasn't or at best "she didn't know".

393 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:35:24am

re: #377 Hard Right

INTERCOURSE THE PENGUIN!

That's SO going to be the name of my rock band.

Or the name of my penguin.

394 jcm  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:35:30am

Rush is playing "Jesus was a community organizer" clips it's funnier than hell.

395 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:35:51am
396 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:36:36am

re: #351 buzzsawmonkey

You must have missed the State of the Union address earlier this year, when she more than earned the nickname "Blinky."


Oh thats right! I forgot.. It is just that she has such..i dunno strange looking eyes..like 3 too many face lifts or something..
I don't mean to sound..well you know mean.. but those eyes..
How are ya during buzzsaw?

397 Meremortal  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:36:46am

re: #387 Spenser (with an S)

Who would he allow to do that to him? The Gibson interview transcript with Obama should have ended Gibson's career. "How awesome does it feel to be the first black candidate?" "Do you like my hair this way?" Gag.

---
Agreed. But I can dream, can't I?

398 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:37:02am

re: #390 Sharmuta

AWESOME!

Stand and deliver.
PLEASE.

... how you planning on getting New Mexico?
I'm in Colorado, so I think that's possible, but New Mexico -- Bill Richardson is a god there.

399 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:37:02am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

...
Clearly she does not have the foreign policy knowledge qualifications for a VP selection, especially from a campaign that set the standard for "experience" as the main issue; this is hypocrisy. She was chosen solely for political reasons by McCain, not because he believes she's best for the job, ...

Ahem.
Its abit unfortunate, isn't it, that any unbiased observer can make the precise comment about B0 - with the ohj-so-slight difference that he is actually running for POTUS, and she isn't.
As for choosing one's running mate for political reasons and not because she or he 'is the best for the job' - that applies to the choice of Biden for VP, in spades, with knobs on.

Sorry, mate, I suggest you remove your blinkers.

400 talon_262  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:37:39am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Get behind thee, troll....

401 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:37:39am

re: #398 jwb7605

I'm not going to New Mexico. Ask TFK.

402 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:38:02am
403 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:38:04am

How are ya during buzzsaw?
I meant 'doing' just as i clicked post i saw that..
I'm like..unsend unsend..to no avail.. :)

404 realwest  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:38:06am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

Registered since: Jul 8, 2007 at 6:38 pm

No. of comments posted: 1
No. of links posted: 0


Boy you sleepers are sure dedicated, I'll give you that.
Otherwise, take your post and shove it.

405 Hard Right  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:38:18am

re: #393 KibbyKat

That's SO going to be the name of my rock band.

Or the name of my penguin.

I would love to hear that said on the radio.

I always thought a couple of good band names would be:
Satanic Slut-Monkeys
Porn Puppies

406 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:38:30am

re: #392 WrathofG-d

re: #327 NYC_Mike


Just saw an ad for the Palin interview with the headline: "Iraq a holy war"? and Gov. Palin's smiling face under it.

Now I'd guess that 1 out of 10 (or more) actually listen to the interview, but 9 out of 10 after seeing the ad would believe that Palin actually said Iraq was a holy war, instaed of the truth which is that at worst she said it wasn't or at best "she didn't know".

How low can they go? It is crystal clear that she was praying (pleading) that our cause was right, not boldly declaring that she knew what God's will was.

407 David Simon  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:38:30am

re: #384 taxfreekiller

could be sandyman is going for 519 down dings and the new champ, uh,chump

If that post is any indication of the somnolent things to come from "Sandman", the nic is quite appropriate.

408 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:39:07am

re: #365 Meremortal

Childish gotcha games tend to be the domain of elitist MSM.

Having said that, even O'Reilly played nice with Barry. So basically, he'll never have that sort of interview.

409 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:39:14am
410 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:39:48am

re: #209 republic

Remember when Rick Lazzio walked accross the debate stage to hand Hillary a piece of paper during their Senate debate?

It was said that was what doomed Lazzio.

* * * *
Yes, Lazio looked like he was bullying Hillary Clinton by walking into her space.

Lazio's campaign manager in 2000 was Mike Murphy, who was caught last week on camera with Peggy Noonan trashing Sarah Palin.

Needless to say, Murphy is not on McCain's campaign team this year.

(Remember Al Gore tried the same tactic of walking into George Bush's personal space during one of their debates, and Bush looked at Gore as if to say, "what's wrong with you, guy?") PRICELESS!

412 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:40:02am

re: #282 MonkeySon

re: graldo.
He's covering the hurricane, standing in the surf surge and got knocked down by the water.

Right now I'm rooting for the hurricane.

413 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:40:07am

re: #409 buzzsawmonkey

The reason that the Left is comparing Palin to Pontius Pilate is not just that Pilate was a governor, but because they routinely have to pilot planes in Alaska to cover the huge distances between towns.

She's a Pontoon Pilot!

414 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:40:59am

re: #292 Mr. Sandman

What you say applies equally well, if not more so, to The O. And who is running for POTUS? It sure ain't Palin.

415 Meremortal  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:01am

re: #404 realwest

Boy you sleepers are sure dedicated, I'll give you that.
Otherwise, take your post and shove it.

------

How is Mr. Sandman like Los Bravos?

Both are "one hit wonders (so far)."

Trivia question: What was Los Bravos' hit? No peeking!

416 alegrias  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:21am

re: #215 realwest

What happened - please do NOT leave out any juicy details, I HATE Geraldo!

* * *
C'mon, REALWEST, Geraldo loves the troops in an emotional way that's endearing, when he's not endangering their positions!

417 rednaxela  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:22am

re: #385 Hard Right

That's right, because it isn't one thing, it's a number of foreign policy strategies. There may one day be a Bush doctrine, but it will take a few decades to crystalize.

418 CommonSense  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:23am

re: #367 Ward Cleaver

What a qualification according to Camp NObama. Since my 11 year old as two is he more qualified than BH NObama?

419 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:25am

re: #405 Hard Right


I always thought a couple of good band names would be:
Satanic Slut-Monkeys
Porn Puppies

Heh. We've got a local band in town named Stinkfinger.

420 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:39am

re: #337 HoosierHoops

maybe I'm missing something.. I've never seen Pelosi blink..
/

Too much Botox ...

421 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:43am
422 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:47am

What's the criteria for "links posted"?
I note that I've been credited with "0", so the inclusion of a link in a message body here must not count.

*sniffle*

423 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:41:51am

re: #404 realwest

Boy you sleepers are sure dedicated, I'll give you that.
Otherwise, take your post and shove it.

Now remember Realwest..it's not the quantity but the quality...
LOL
Hey Real..I didn't get a chance to say good morning to you my friend today and now it's afternoon.. So good afternoon!

424 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:42:13am

re: #322 KibbyKat

She was workin' Indianapolis. Or, whatever.

425 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:42:31am

re: #421 buzzsawmonkey

ROFLMHWAO

426 talon_262  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:42:55am

re: #415 Meremortal

------

How is Mr. Sandman like Los Bravos?

Both are "one hit wonders (so far)."

Trivia question: What was Los Bravos' hit? No peeking!

What is "Black Is Black", Alex?

;-P

427 David Simon  Fri, Sep 12, 2008 10:43:14am