Welcome to Obama's America.

"BURN HERE" should be the title.

Project much?

Just wait until Obama wins. We will all be on a list.

At what point will these loons realize that Republicans are not the freakin enemy. While there are tons of people in this world plotting at this very moment to kill Americans for no other reason than being American, this is what this newspaper finds print worthy. Then again it is Seattle so I didn't really expect much else.

Any attorneys here today? Do the homeowners have any cause for action?

Had a conservative done this we'd never hear the end of it.

Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!

Missed me! Missed me!

Maybe it was "Property Protect by Springfield Arms" sign on the fence.

Dissent is patriotic!

Unless it's dissent from The One- then it's speech to be intimidated and threatened.

re: #4 Racer X

Just wait until Obama wins. loses We will all be on a list.

Same difference.

Every known associate, mentor, or relative of Obama is either hiding, missing, under investigation, or in prison.

10 Most Wanted List

re: #7 dave in NC

Had a conservative done this we'd never hear the end of it.

A conservative would not care whose house has an Obama sign.

Note to conservatives: do not show support for your candidate or you will pay.

A little taste of life in left-wing fascist America.

Someone needs to alert those homeowners, so they can be on the lookout. And so they can sue the paper.

Perhaps the names, addresses and phone numbers of that rag's publishers should be made public, just to see the shoe on the other foot.

re: #6 MandyManners

Any attorneys here today? Do the homeowners have any cause for action?

Good thought, Mandy. There has to be a few class action lawyer types who are conservative who could take this case and make some real money (only to be taxed by Obama, if he wins) ... or are they all full-time liberals?

Ah - the new Pravda at work.

Unbelievable.

Just had a person come to the door with a clipboard; not sure what she wanted, but she had a sticker on her sweater that read "white women for obama." Why do these people feel it necessary to make everything about race?

I wonder if houses in the neighborhood The Kid ToT'ed in last night have their McCain/Palin signs back up. I do.

We'll need to get little nanny cams pointed on our signs and houses to catch the perps.

re: #15 solomonpanting

Perhaps the names, addresses and phone numbers of that rag's publishers should be made public, just to see the shoe on the other foot.

That's easy! It's probably one apartment and they share the phone.

Seattle Paper Ad Vehicle for Massage, BDSM, Misc. Used Property Publishes Vandalism Wish List.

There is a bad crazy wind blowing across this country.

re: #16 hermeneutics

Good thought, Mandy. There has to be a few class action lawyer types who are conservative who could take this case and make some real money (only to be taxed by Obama, if he wins) ... or are they all full-time liberals?

What would be the allegations? It's public knowledge if a house has a sign.

Hmmmm, I wonder if anyone who resides at those home's feels slightly intimidated? If anyone is hurt or property damaged at those homes I would hope civil right's hate crimes would be enforced on both the perperator(s) and the enabler. Hope but I'm doubtful, civil rights don't apply to non-BHO supporters. BHO is the "one" the wrong "one".

These people are first in line for Hussein's fancy new brown-shirts!

By photographing the homes and listing the addresses - it is an advertisement to fellow group-think progressive brown-shirts to go and teach those home owners a lesson.

re: #19 dave in NC

Just had a person come to the door with a clipboard; not sure what she wanted, but she had a sticker on her sweater that read "white women for obama." Why do these people feel it necessary to make everything about race?

And what sort of hot water would you be in if you had a "white women for McCain" button on?

You mean you haven't gotten the memo? From now all, all dissent is tolerated except that which is considered dissent against the policies of The One.

If you even dare question The One, all your dirty laundry will be aired, in the name of patriotism.

And if you question your taxes, that is selfishness. Don't worry about the higher taxes coming your way, because it's your patriotic duty to pay them.

/where will it end?

re: #29 willowone
God bless and keep you and yours.

re: #29 willowone

Did I miss a sarc tag? (I hope.)

re: #26 MandyManners

What would be the allegations? It's public knowledge if a house has a sign.

I suspect it would fall under the "inciting to riot" statutes....

Someone said on that articles comments that those homeowners planned to vandalize their own homes for the insurance.
That makes no sense. They still don't come out ahead.

re: #19 dave in NC

Just had a person come to the door with a clipboard; not sure what she wanted, but she had a sticker on her sweater that read "white women for obama." Why do these people feel it necessary to make everything about race?

Mrs Reject and I have a pot of coffee brewing and big plate of sweets for when the BO door-knockers come around. We figure if we can engage them for an hour or so that's that many fewer doors they can knock on in a day.

/Sometimes passive aggression works wonders.

The paper is certainly culpable for any crimes committed but are they libel?

JCM's house is the one with the sandbags ... and the howitzer's barrel pointing out of the open front window.

"Who knows what liberal bogeymen lurk outside this fence's cherished sanctum? The nightmare has just begun for you, Republican fence."

Incitement disguised as journalism, in my view.

At some point we may end up frighting for our freedom and a restoration of our liberty.

Here in America.

These are the same folks that are going to be on Obama's "civilian militia", but they'll be an offshoot called the "rat patrol", eavesdropping and going through your garbage for signs of dissent.

re: #29 willowone
WHOA! Before you ask to leave, how's about getting a dog - doesn't have to be a Rotweiller or anything (Labs are good) just some dog to make noise - or get one of those home protection services - PLEASE DON'T LET YOURSELF BE INTIMIDATED BY THESE SCUM.
PLEASE!

What a snotrag this paper is. The editor should be sued personally.
BTW, nice houses.

re: #5 Sizzlack

At what point will these loons realize that Republicans are not the freakin enemy. While there are tons of people in this world plotting at this very moment to kill Americans for no other reason than being American, this is what this newspaper finds print worthy. Then again it is Seattle so I didn't really expect much else.

I have a theory about why those people behave that way.

I've been pondering that question for years.

Everyone needs to feel good about themselves. For creative and productive people this isn't a problem.

But the parasites and destructive people cannot feel good about themselves unless they adopt a fantasy they what they are destroying is evil. Thus the need to hate.

That's pretty much the short version of the theory.

re: #40 pre-Boomer Marine brat

JCM's house is the one with the sandbags ... and the howitzer's barrel pointing out of the open front window.

Damn, gotta' work on the camouflage again.

re: #25 Ringo the Gringo

There is a bad crazy wind blowing across this country.

No, I think it's a prairie fire you're feeling.

Here's what's happening in our neighborhood:

We have a McCain sign in our yard. We've only put a sign out once before. This morning, the McCain sign was replaced with an Obama sign (we found the McCain sign in the bushes and put that right) and our house was TP'd.

I'm prefering to think it is Halloween-related.

re: #45 Spare O'Lake

What a snotrag this paper is. The editor should be sued personally.
BTW, nice houses.

I'll give the Stranger one thing. They're the only honest paper in town. They're open about there bias.

re: #47 jcm

Damn, gotta' work on the camouflage again.

a HAH!
Didn't know if you were still here.

re: #13 FrogMarch

Note to conservatives: do not show support for your candidate or you will pay.

A little taste of life in left-wing fascist America.

Democrats have devolved into Fascists without the spiffy uniforms.

Do not miss reading what the left-wing brown shirts have to say. It's pretty telling.

Oh please try something like that in my neighborhood. Many of the cops in the county live in my town and one of their Captains has the attitude of "Things like that DON'T happen here."

What if they published the names and addresses of all the Jews in the area? Or blacks? Or illegal immigrants?

Our nation was built on the principle of majority rule with protection for minority rights.

In Seattle, people with McCain signs are a distinct minority.

This is a preview of the Obama Age if hew is elected. Counter Revolutionaries will be singled out as not deserving the rights and protections afforded others by the law because they are considered to reject the morality on which the society will now be based.

That morality is that of the New Left. Google "New Left SDS Marcuse" to get scholarly samplings of the morality which these people propose (all based in Marxism).

These people are more bent on forced moral purity and national redemption than Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell ever were.

re: #26 MandyManners

What would be the allegations? It's public knowledge if a house has a sign.

Publication of private facts is a tort in most states, and while it's a very difficult bar to reach in most instances, this wouldn't be a frivolous claim here. It would have to be both highly offensive to a reasonable person and not of legitimate public concern. It wouldn't be a slam dunk case at all, but you could make an argument for it.

Standard disclaimer: this is meant to be informative and is not an offer of legal services, and anyone looking to pursue such a claim should contact a licensed attorney in their jurisdiction.

/that law degree was a pain in the ass to get, but it comes in handy sometimes...

I can't wait to see what happens to the progressives when they complain that The One is not progressive enough for them.

re: #38 willowone

so sorrry, i feel like shit, but i can't take it. You are the best, im sorry to not be as strong. forgive me.

Suggestion? Call ADT. For $35/month, you'll sleep a lot better.

Seattle “alternative” (alternative to what?) newspaper The Stranger is publishing the addresses of homes displaying Republican campaign signs, with the charming title:

Thank you, Charles! I thought I was the only one who finds nothing 'alternative' about alternative newspapers, comics, etc. They're just more of the same & uglier.

To let the police know about this:

Bellevue PD;

Medina PD;

Mercer Island PD.

Those assholes might regret what they've done. The above-listed police departments protect a bunch of very rich people.

re: #22 uncle_monkey

That's easy! It's probably one apartment microbus and they share the phone a bong.

-fixed 'er fer ya.

re: #9 Sharmuta

Dissent is patriotic!

Unless it's dissent from The One- then it's speech to be intimidated and threatened.

Whenever I've heard some moonbat or moonbat-oid say that dissent is the highest form patriotism, I say if treason is the highest form of dissent, and the highest form patriotism is dissent, does that treason patriotic? The stares and subsequent cursing are priceless.

re: #19 dave in NC

Just had a person come to the door with a clipboard; not sure what she wanted, but she had a sticker on her sweater that read "white women for obama." Why do these people feel it necessary to make everything about race?

Because they are driven by emotion, not reason. They have to feel good about themselves without actually thinking about what really constitutes the good.

re: #38 willowone

so sorrry, i feel like shit, but i can't take it. You are the best, im sorry to not be as strong. forgive me.

A nice, female Doberman is a great family protector.

I wonder how long it will be until BHO tries to make our 'secret' ballots history like they are with the Union ballots?

re: #47 jcm

Damn, gotta' work on the camouflage again.

What about quad-50s -- like were used on our halftracks in WWII?

/would the neighbors object?
/for how long?

re: #57 karmic_inquisitor

In Seattle, people with McCain signs are a distinct minority.

Wait one minute here!

Could this be an argument that publishing the addresses is a HATE CRIME!

To get the true flavor, read the article. This is clearly designed to engender action and mischeif by the readers of the paper.

Isn't Mercer Island where Barack Obama's mother went to high school?

re: #32 lawhawk

/where will it end?

It'll end when we realize, all on our own of course, that it's doubleplusungood to not love Big Brother.

Well I sure hope willowone doesn't quit - Charles would NEVER expose who you really are, NEVER.
And we just can't let those MOFO's and others like them intimidate us; too many Americans have given too much, many have given their all, for US to allow ourselves to be intimidated from exercising our rights to free speech.
I'm NOT unsympathetic to willowone's situation, I just don't think she has anything to fear - seriously.

re: #62 MandyManners

To let the police know about this:

Bellevue PD;

Medina PD;

Mercer Island PD.

Those assholes might regret what they've done. The above-listed police departments protect a bunch of very rich people Everyone.

Fixed.

re: #58 jamie

Publication of private facts is a tort in most states, and while it's a very difficult bar to reach in most instances, this wouldn't be a frivolous claim here. It would have to be both highly offensive to a reasonable person and not of legitimate public concern. It wouldn't be a slam dunk case at all, but you could make an argument for it.

Standard disclaimer: this is meant to be informative and is not an offer of legal services, and anyone looking to pursue such a claim should contact a licensed attorney in their jurisdiction.

/that law degree was a pain in the ass to get, but it comes in handy sometimes...

But is it a private fact that a homeowner supports a candidate when that homeowner advertises that support?

Alternate papers are not even usable as fishwrap, the cheap ink is imported from China and probably contaminated with lead, mercury, and slave-laborer bone-meal.
Few if any of these rags are audited for circulation and it is typical to claim many times the actual circulation in order to dupe gullible advertisers. Several years ago, I caught one alt-weekly publisher sending her husband around to distribution points and dumping their own papers in the trash so they could claim they had been picked up and read. Printers routinely demand cash in advance for printing what few copies are actually produced.
I learned my lesson about these charlatans the hard way: I wrote a series of article for a yokel alt-rag on the promise that I would be paid $900 for it. Naturally, I neve saw the dough. I got a judgment against the publisher but by that time she was in prison for credit card abuse. (This is not the same one I caught trashing her own papers, btw).
Scratch an alt publisher, find a criminal.

re: #28 wiffersnapper

These people are first in line for Hussein's fancy new brown-shirts!

Shirtwise, you gotta hope for taupe.

Democrats are such babies and journalists are their pacifiers.

re: #71 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Isn't Mercer Island where Barack Obama's mother went to high school?

I believe you're right.

re: #28 wiffersnapper

These people are first in line for Hussein's fancy new brown-shirts!

Probably will wear blue shirts.

Anyone remember an ABC Afterschool Special film called The Wave?

It's an eye opener. They would never rerun it now.

Did these guardians of the public weal ever publish the addresses of the convicted pedophiles?

re: #74 Racer X

I hate to say it but, rich folks bend ears better than others.

re: #1 Ringo the Gringo

Welcome to Obama's America.

FCC Probe Signals Democratic Attack Machine

A Federal Communications Commission investigation of on-air military analysts is providing a glimpse of what Democrats and an Obama administration will do to critics once they capture Washington.

The FCC has sent letters to some of the nation's most prominent military analysts -- some of them pro-President Bush and pro-war -- suggesting they may have broken the law when they appeared on television stations to comment on and explain the war on terrorism.

The FCC investigation raises the question of whether a Democrat-controlled Congress and White House next year will investigate -- and perhaps criminalize -- all sorts of actions taken by the Bush administration. Obama is leading in all presidential polls, while Democrats are set to greatly increase their hold on the House and Senate.

The FCC letters came at the behest of two House Democrats, who say the analysts parroted on air the private briefings they received at the Pentagon. This may have broken the law, the lawmakers said.

/beware the comfy chair, you'll beg for waterboarding

Isn't this "Hit list" illegal ?

Conspiracy ?
Inciting violence ?
Mob action ?

help me here.

re: #43 uncle_monkey

These are the same folks that are going to be on Obama's "civilian militia", but they'll be an offshoot called the "rat patrol", eavesdropping and going through your garbage for signs of dissent.

That's what a shredder is for.re: #69 Racer X

Wait one minute here!

Could this be an argument that publishing the addresses is a HATE CRIME!

No, silly! Those laws are intended to be used to muzzle conservatives, not protect them. According to those who favor such laws, we are evil and deserve whatever we get. Lucky for me, I live on the second floor. My signs are on the inside of windows. You'd need a very strong arm and a big rock to ruin them.

re: #43 uncle_monkey

These are the same folks that are going to be on Obama's "civilian
militia", but they'll be an offshoot called the "rat patrol",
eavesdropping and going through your garbage for signs of dissent.

Going through the garbage is a full-time occupation for police in Belgium, only there it's to make sure that everyone is recycling. I'm sure the OCNSF will say that's all they're doing to - one of the stated purposes of the OCNSF is to "clean the planet."

re: #82 MandyManners

I hate to say it but, rich folks bend ears better than others.

Well, as my old history teacher used to say, "Them what has, gits."

re: #75 MandyManners
What do you think the reaction would be if an "alternative" newspaper published the same sort of thing about Obama supporters?
Yes, putting a sign out on your house is PUBLIC, but what this rag has done is publish those PHOTOS and addresses and - if you read the article - with clear intent for their fellow traveler's to do "what must be done".
Fuck 'em all. Put out your signs folks, speak up, do NOT be afraid. Because if you are afraid to put up those signs, to speak up, then the other side has won.
Period.

Of course. How do you "get in their face" unless you know where the faces are?

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel

Alternate papers are not even usable as fishwrap, the cheap ink is
imported from China and probably contaminated with lead, mercury, and
slave-laborer bone-meal.
Few if any of these rags are audited for
circulation and it is typical to claim many times the actual
circulation in order to dupe gullible advertisers. Several years ago, I
caught one alt-weekly publisher sending her husband around to
distribution points and dumping their own papers in the trash so they
could claim they had been picked up and read. Printers routinely demand
cash in advance for printing what few copies are actually produced.
I
learned my lesson about these charlatans the hard way: I wrote a series
of article for a yokel alt-rag on the promise that I would be paid $900
for it. Naturally, I neve saw the dough. I got a judgment against the
publisher but by that time she was in prison for credit card abuse.
(This is not the same one I caught trashing her own papers, btw).
Scratch an alt publisher, find a criminal.

They're only kept in business by the porno theatres & "escort" services that run their ads in them.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

We will miss you.
And, IMHO, there's nothing here which can identify you.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

Don't go - don't let the haters win this one over you.

re: #49 Sunlight

Here's what's happening in our neighborhood:

We have a McCain sign in our yard. We've only put a sign out once before. This morning, the McCain sign was replaced with an Obama sign (we found the McCain sign in the bushes and put that right) and our house was TP'd.

I'm prefering to think it is Halloween-related.

If it happens again then its enemy action.

re: #87 Dianna

Well, as my old history teacher used to say, "Them what has, gits."

Bill Gates lives in Medina.

re: #88 willowone

NO! We'll miss you!

re: #96 MandyManners

Bill Gates lives in Medina.

I head it's pretty cold in Medina. Funky, too.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

Are you serious? Now is the time to stand up and fight, not to yield to intimidation.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

Don't go. Believe me, things will be worse if you sit down and shut up. The other side will ruin this country if we don't oppose them.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

Sorry but I think you are trying to breed fear. You could have sent him a private message but you chose to post? Something is rotten in Denmark

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

willowone ... if there's an identification issue regarding your current nic, PLEASE re-register under a different one.

We'd like very much to continue having you around.

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel

They also print Ted Rall's columns. Can there be a more damning indictment?

re: #57 karmic_inquisitor

The name Robespierre readily comes to mind here.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

Take a deep breath, wait till after McCain wins.

As for me.
To any half wit who'd track me down, and I've left enough clues.

To quote a great President of the United States of America.
BRING IT ON! and I add in my own words, MOFO!

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

Too bad. Personally, I would welcome a bloody fight with passive-aggressive metrosexuals. I need the target practice.

:)

By the end of the day, the baboons who publish this rag will see their addresses, phone numbers, house pics, pets' names, vehicle photos and license numbers, favorite tattoo parlors and organic grocery stores, trust fund account numbers, and the artists' signatures on their bongs published somewhere on the internet.
Count on it, though not here.

Super creepy.

re: #88 willowone
I can't say anything else to convince you - you are the one who has to decide what's important to you in your life and to be prepared to take what steps are necessary to defend yourself.
But I still think an ADT or WellsFargo type home protection service (which is not expensive - less than $50 a month I believe) is the right way to go.
But it's your decision.
We will miss you and I'm sorry that you've been intimidated to drop off LGF.

re: #102 summergurl

(go easy, summergurl -- I don't think it's what you just thought)

re: #107 Sol Roth

Too bad. Personally, I would welcome a bloody fight with passive-aggressive metrosexuals. I need the target practice.

:)

Be careful - those grande lattes they throw can really scald you!

re: #107 Sol Roth

Too bad. Personally, I would welcome a bloody fight with passive-aggressive metrosexuals. I need the target practice.

:)

They won't be the ones you're fighting. It'll be ACORN's thugs and they are a lot nastier.

The deflating of the phony Jesus.

re: #75 MandyManners

But is it a private fact that a homeowner supports a candidate when that homeowner advertises that support?

Why did the rag publish the addresses?
If the editor intended to intimidate or interfere with a lawful activity then could it not be a criminal act and/or a civil wrong, especially if the publication carried with it an implicit threat of violence?

re: #110 realwest

I
can't say anything else to convince you - you are the one who has to
decide what's important to you in your life and to be prepared to take
what steps are necessary to defend yourself.
But I still think an
ADT or WellsFargo type home protection service (which is not expensive
- less than $50 a month I believe) is the right way to go.
But it's your decision.
We will miss you and I'm sorry that you've been intimidated to drop off LGF.

Heck, if cost is the problem, we can pass around the hat here - you'll meet the $50 a month in no time flat.

re: #111 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(go easy, summergurl -- I don't think it's what you just thought)

I don't know - there are a lot of "tactics" people are employing out there to breed fear and keep us looking over our shoulder.

If I am wrong, I apologize - but still it seems to me one could have sent this privately --why bring more attention to yourself if you are worried already?

re: #112 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Be careful - those grande lattes they throw can really scald you!

That has certain hazards attached.

Has ACORN decided yet what color armband Republicans will be required to wear in public?

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

They won't be the ones you're fighting. It'll be ACORN's thugs and they are a lot nastier.

All flesh yields to lead and steel.

re: #88 willowone

We're sorry to see you go and we certainly hope to welcome you back soon. ;)

I'm sorry all y'all - but the thought that an LGFer has been INTIMIDATED from even posting annonymously on LGF has me sick to my stomach.
BBIAW.

re: #60 Dianna

Suggestion? Call ADT. For $35/month, you'll sleep a lot better.

Get a Doberman

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

Signs of dissent could be a 7up can (that is if the chosen one bails out a competing soda company), or a sports car magazine when we all know that they contribute to global warming.

I guess it's time to get an incinerator!

re: #84 CrackrJak

Isn't this "Hit list" illegal ?

Conspiracy ?
Inciting violence ?
Mob action ?

help me here.

I think it may well be. In 2002, a website called the "Nuremberg Files" that published the names and addresses of doctors who performed abortions was shut down. It's owner was additionally fined several million dollars.

Using that as precedent, I don't think it's unreasonable for this Seattle Paper to pull the names.

More info:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #37 CIA Reject

Mrs Reject and I have a pot of coffee brewing...

I have to wonder if she likes being called "Mrs. Reject"?

:o) [or do we do smileys around here?]

re: #117 summergurl

I don't know - there are a lot of "tactics" people are employing out there to breed fear and keep us looking over our shoulder.

If
I am wrong, I apologize - but still it seems to me one could have sent
this privately --why bring more attention to yourself if you are
worried already?

Willow's not a moby - she's a regular.

Got hemmed up by two Obama campaign workers on the way to get the paper. Woman walked into my yard with large thuggish male, called out my first name and said she was a "personal friend of Obama".

I said, " any friend of an American hating socialist, with racists and terrorists as friends, is no friend of mine", she then asked if she could leave some literature with me to read over. I said "sure, trash can's on the side of the house", I then turned around and walked back toward the front door and left her there in astonished amazement..

re: #88 willowone

Please reconsider.

I'm seriously thinking about posting my real name here, just to show what I think of lefty intimidation.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

You must have some good reasons.
Be safe.

Contact Information for that rag.

I was born in Seattle and have lived here for many years. It was not always the liberal vipers' nest that it has become. However, the political climate is now very oppressive for Republicans. Dissenting opinions are not encouraged, but mocked and laughed at. My husband and I will be leaving as soon as some business matters are closed out. The politics of the area is one of the primary reasons.

re: #97 MandyManners

NO! We'll miss you!

I second that. Please don't go, willowone.

re: #122 realwest

I'm sorry all y'all - but the thought that an LGFer has been INTIMIDATED from even posting annonymously on LGF has me sick to my stomach.
BBIAW.

It's just one out of thousands RW. The rest of us just get more pissed, not scared.

Take care of yourself and see you back soon.

re: #88 willowone

You cannot tell from appearances how things will go. Sometimes imagination makes things out far worse than they are; yet without imagination not much can be done. Those people who are imaginative see many more dangers than perhaps exist; certainly many more than will happen; but then they must also pray to be given that extra courage to carry this far-reaching imagination. But for everyone, surely, what we have gone through in this period - I am addressing myself to the School - surely from this period of ten months this is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never-in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. We stood all alone a year ago, and to many countries it seemed that our account was closed, we were finished. All this tradition of ours, our songs, our School history, this part of the history of this country, were gone and finished and liquidated.

Sir Winston Churchill

re: #123 faraway

Any dog. Even a yappy little purse dog.

Though I don't recommend those for families. Too nervous, and they tend to nip the kids.

re: #122 realwest

I'm sorry all y'all - but the thought that an LGFer has been INTIMIDATED from even posting annonymously on LGF has me sick to my stomach.
BBIAW.

This is how the left will win.

Now is not the time to puss out.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

This is fucked up. Why is this starting to reek of Nazi Germany?

Hopefully when McCain kicks Obama's ass, you'll come back!

re: #129 Shiplord Kirel

Please reconsider.

I'm seriously thinking about posting my real name here, just to show what I think of lefty intimidation.

Shiplord is your title, right?

re: #123 faraway

Get a Doberman

Get a .22lr pistol, a safe and some training.

re: #128 Blazer in RIC

Got hemmed up by two Obama campaign workers on the way to get the paper. Woman walked into my yard with large thuggish male, called out my first name and said she was a "personal friend of Obama".

Maybe she was. But, even if she was, why do all his supporters seem to think that?

This cult of personality is getting dangerous.

There have been record Gun, Safe, and security system sales in the past month. I think that's rather telling.

re: #88 willowone

Yes Mr Johnson. delete me .

I don't know why you say goodbye.

Bastards. This is America, you patchouli-sucking intestinal worms. Just try targeting me, and I'll teach you everything you never wanted to know about the Second Amendment.

re: #114 FrogMarch

The deflating of the phony Jesus.

Interesting that so many of these insights into the real Obama are coming out of England and elsewhere. The Comment section is good, too.

re: #120 Sol Roth

All flesh yields to lead and steel.

Including ours. Lets hope for a peaceful election and aftermath. Violence may sometimes be needed, but it should never be wanted.

re: #115 Spare O'Lake

Why did the rag publish the addresses?
If the editor intended to intimidate or interfere with a lawful activity then could it not be a criminal act and/or a civil wrong, especially if the publication carried with it an implicit threat of violence?

I didn't see any implicit threat of violence.

re: #117 summergurl

I don't know - there are a lot of "tactics" people are employing out there to breed fear and keep us looking over our shoulder.

If I am wrong, I apologize - but still it seems to me one could have sent this privately --why bring more attention to yourself if you are worried already?

Oh yes, I understand what you mean, and see how this could appear to be so.

IMHO, willowone is being straightforward here. No disparagement intended -- none whatsoever -- I believe she is merely hyper-anxious. I have a long-time and very dear friend from high school who has been the same way. I've "heard" things coming from willowone which are very similar.

re: #142 CrackrJak

There have been record Gun, Safe, and security system sales in the past month. I think that's rather telling.

Gun sales up, ammo sales way up.

These 'alternative' people have a few screws loose. Do you think anybody has warned the homeowners about this? They are probably not likely to look at the alternative rag-papers.

re: #129 Shiplord Kirel

Please reconsider.

I'm seriously thinking about posting my real name here, just to show what I think of lefty intimidation.

My nic has always linked directly to my real name.

re: #149 jcm

Gun sales up, ammo sales way up.

I'm sure these people are buying guns just to turn them over to the OCNSF next January.
/

What a great quote for these very times.

Thatre: #135 jcm

You cannot tell from appearances how things will go. Sometimes imagination makes things out far worse than they are; yet without imagination not much can be done. Those people who are imaginative see many more dangers than perhaps exist; certainly many more than will happen; but then they must also pray to be given that extra courage to carry this far-reaching imagination. But for everyone, surely, what we have gone through in this period - I am addressing myself to the School - surely from this period of ten months this is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never-in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. We stood all alone a year ago, and to many countries it seemed that our account was closed, we were finished. All this tradition of ours, our songs, our School history, this part of the history of this country, were gone and finished and liquidated.

Sir Winston Churchill

re: #142 CrackrJak

There have been record Gun, Safe, and security system sales in the past month. I think that's rather telling.

My mother hasn't had a gun in the house in twenty years, though she was a pretty accomplished shooter in her younger days. She asked me if I could loan her one last week. I didn't have one I thought was suitable so I got her a 20 gauge pump shotgun. She is 83 years old.

Isthere anybody out there that doesn't think that this is an incitement for violence?

re: #150 VioletTiger

These 'alternative' people have a few screws loose. Do you think anybody has warned the homeowners about this? They are probably not likely to look at the alternative rag-papers.

That's why I posted the contact information to the police departments. Maybe a few Lizards will let them know what's going on.

Senior lizards ...

If the problem for willowone is her nic, can she be given another without deleting her existing account?

re: #158 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Senior lizards ...

If the problem for willowone is her nic, can she be given another without deleting her existing account?

The Large Lizard can do anything.....

re: #155 Iron Fist

Isthere anybody out there that doesn't think that this is an incitement for violence?

They're just following this incitement:
"It's going to get nasty..."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #151 doriangrey

My nic has always linked directly to my real name.

With respect, she's in a different situation, Dorian.

re: #140 RTLM

Get a .22lr pistol, a safe and some training.

She has children. I think a dog and an alarm system are better ideas.

That, and some martial arts training goes one heck of a long way.

Or, as we say around here: They interrupted a dinner party.

re: #159 jcm

The Large Lizard can do anything.....

That's what she said.

re: #158 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Senior lizards ...

If the problem for willowone is her nic, can she be given another without deleting her existing account?

She can change her nick - it will restart her comment count from zero. IIRC

re: #147 MandyManners

I didn't see any implicit threat of violence.

Could a reasonable person fear violence to their person or property if their address and political affiliation was published in this way?

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Including ours. Lets hope for a peaceful election and aftermath. Violence may sometimes be needed, but it should never be wanted.

Of course. I'm sure no one here wants violence, if for no other reason than internal disorder makes us weak to external enemies.

re: #164 RTLM

How do you change your nic anyway? Do you have to completely re-register?
I've thought about changing mine, though certainly not out of fear.

re: #137 Racer X
I'm not the one "pussing out".

re: #165 Spare O'Lake

Could a reasonable person fear violence to their person or property if their address and political affiliation was published in this way?

In Seattle? Home of the huge riot a few years back?

Why do you ask?

re: #136 Dianna

hey, us yappy little purse dogs are extremely sensitive you know....

re: #5 Sizzlack

Your enemy's enemy is your friend. Since the left is friends with the PLO, CAIR, various communists and socialists, etc. republicans ARE the enemy.

They hate what this country stands for, they hate what it was founded on, they hate the declaration of independence, and they hate the constitution. We need to start realizing that THEY are the enemy, not just islamists and communists.

re: #162 Dianna

She has children. I think a dog and an alarm system are better ideas.

That, and some martial arts training goes one heck of a long way.

Or, as we say around here: They interrupted a dinner party.

Shoot 'em in the toodles.

re: #155 Iron Fist
Apparently Mandy Manners doesn't - see her #147 - unless she forgot the sarc tag.

"...never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense."

re: #147 MandyManners

I didn't see any implicit threat of violence.

Not even in these?

But at night, it's a GOP graveyard, where the yard-sign tombstones are unearthed by zombie candidates hungry for brains. Do you have what it takes to drive a stake through the heart of zombie Dino Rossi or blast a shotgun into the chest of zombie Dave Reichert or fight off the reanimated ashes of Steve Litzow, swirling out of that terrifying urn? Run.
...
What is more terrifying than this edifice, in which there is no door, few windows, and no handholds by which one might scale its faceless heights to register complaint?

re: #117 summergurl

I concur, something not quite right here, so close to election day. I do believe this particular poster is a "former" libral, so perhaps we are reverting to the old comfort zone or never quite left it.

re: #167 The Archivist

How do you change your nic anyway? Do you have to completely re-register?
I've thought about changing mine, though certainly not out of fear.

That's a good question - I've never tried. I believe its been done frequently by other folks. "Bubble Girl" comes to mind. I just looked into the account set up and found no way to do it. I guess I was wrong.

(shrug)

re: #165 Spare O'Lake

Could a reasonable person fear violence to their person or property if their address and political affiliation was published in this way?

Two blocks form my home in Shoreline just north of Seattle, there is a 'Nam vet of the 101st. He flies the American Flag, and puts up (R) signs every election. He's a supporter of Israel and flies the Israeli flag on Israeli holidays.

His home has been repeatedly vandalized.

re: #171 WindHorse

hey, us yappy little purse dogs are extremely sensitive you know....

I'd be nervous, too, if I weighed in at less than 5 pounds and was surrounded by giants who don't look where they're going!

re: #173 debutaunt

Shoot 'em in the toodles.

The which?

BTW, I have guns. I just don't expect people with young children to be as happy about having them as I am.

re: #102 summergurl

Sorry but I think you are trying to breed fear. You could have sent him a private message but you chose to post? Something is rotten in Denmark

Well I thought it very odd that she (willowone) announced that her husband was gone 11 months a year and she has little kids - I wouldn't be telling that to the world if I was afraid.

re: #169 Dianna

In Seattle? Home of the huge riot a few years back?
Why do you ask?

Intimidation by intentionally inducing a fear of violence is, I believe, a rather serious crime and civil wrong.

re: #165 Spare O'Lake

Could a reasonable person fear violence to their person or property if their address and political affiliation was published in this way?

I know I would.

re: #181 Sol Roth

I'm not touching that one here at LGF.

The bar is very, very high. But the framers put that option on the table.

The Marxists One with his associations, ideas is the first time I've every really thought about it.

Never thought I would, pray and hope sanity prevails long before that point.

The article is smugly partisan. It's fair game to make fun of your political opposition. It's something else to publish an address with an implicit invitation to your readers to stop by for a bit of sign warfare or outright vandalism.

How would this "newspaper" like it if we posted the name, address, and phone number of the editor with a suggestions that every lizard in the country call this guy at home to complain?

re: #137 Racer X

Talk to us when your spouse is out of town the majority of the time and you have small kids.

re: #187 quickjustice
Publishing the name, address, and phone number of the editor would violate Charles rules about such things.

re: #187 quickjustice

Good idea; do it.

re: #183 yah

Well I thought it very odd that she (willowone) announced that her husband was gone 11 months a year and she has little kids - I wouldn't be telling that to the world if I was afraid.

I read that as her reaching out for a little support here. If she is frightened and we can't help her, maybe we should just let her go and do what she feels she must do.

these people all need to arm themselves and be prepared to protect themselves and their families.
the publication of their addresses is an invitation for nuts and kooks to come out of the wood work.
also these families who have been targeted by this newspaper need to sue them out of existence.

re: #161 pre-Boomer Marine brat

With respect, she's in a different situation, Dorian.

What, because she is a woman? Sorry I don't understand. I haven't been a anonymous citizen in so long I honestly cant remember what it's like.

Back in 2000 I wrote an article for ZDNet it was very critical of Napster, the result of my article was well over 10,000 angry intimidating e-mails and at least 300 to 400 death threats. Several individuals even showed up at my house to attempt to intimidate me in person.

I just cant see running and hiding as an option, for willowone to act in a prudent manner is one thing. She however is an anonymous citizen and running away from here where she is anonymous is surrendering to fear. Yes it is her choice, but in my opinion it is a very poor choice.

re: #176 abolitionist

I suppose that could be incitement for the unhinged.

re: #155 Iron Fist

Isthere anybody out there that doesn't think that this is an incitement for violence?

Of couse it is. Not being a bunch of drooling trustafarian hippies, our response should be carefully and professionally planned. Just by coincidence, my battle staff and I have been working on just such a plan for submission to President Bush and the National Command Authority:

Operation Reefer Madness.

At dawn on election day, all available assets of Air Mobility Command will be used for a massive and simultaneous airdrop of marijuana, hashhish, and whatever other confiscated drugs are on hand into certain designated target zones. These target areas will include Marin County, Berkeley, and moonbat infested regions of such cities as Seattle and Austin.
The first wave, consisting of C-17s and C-5s, will drop our new ASU-66 (Air-drop Stoner Unit) from an altitude of 28000 feet to achieve maximum dispersion. After an initial assessment by Forward Air-Controllers in loitering A-10s and disguised civilian vehicles on the ground, C-130s will follow up with low altitude precision drops on high concentrations of target forces, ie head shops and college dorms. Finally, strategic assets of Air Combat Command, including B-1s and B-52s, will release individual packets containing rolling papers and Bic lighters into the target zones. This should temporarily eliminate enough Obama voters to defeat the immediate threat of a coup d'etat by media auxialiary forces currently attempting to occupy the White House and other crucial installations.

re: #184 Spare O'Lake

Intimidation by intentionally inducing a fear of violence is, I believe, a rather serious crime and civil wrong.

As it should be. It reduces civil discourse, and we can't afford that.

re: #190 realwest

Agreed. The question was rhetorical.

re: #176 abolitionist

Good example. That article is incitement and intimidation; Unfortunately it will probably work. When facing property damage, most people will withdraw offending signs even if they are in the right. The perceived costs of fighting are normally too high. By such means does evil advance.

P.S. Please don't respond to sign stealers and vandals with armed force. If you actually badly wounded one of them, you'd probably be arrested and charged. The law really doesn't allow deadly force to protect property.

re: #174 realwest

Well, if she didn't forget a sarc tage, I'll respectfully disagree. There could be no other explantion. More of, "This is where they live It'd be a damned shame if anything happened to them.

re: #184 Spare O'Lake

Intimidation by intentionally inducing a fear of violence is, I believe, a rather serious crime and civil wrong.

Intentional infliction of emotional distress?

This is why I believe the polls could be very, very wrong this year. I live on Mercer Island (yes, this is where Obama's mother went to high school). This is one of the more conservative areas in the Seattle area, and there is absolutely no way I would volunteer that I am a die-hard republican, especially to a pollster calling my home telephone number. This is the most paranoid I have ever been in my life...really I'm not usually like this, but the vibe I get is that if Obama doesn't win, there will be hell to pay. Essentially, the Seattle Times has put us all on notice that if we don't vote for Obama we are vile, racist scum who don't deserve to live...

re: #188 MandyManners
I agree with you completely Mandy. It's one thing for some of us to say "We've got guns" or "We've got a pack of wild Dobermans" or whatever and for someone - woman OR man - to try to stand up to this sort of behavior.
That's why I said what I did in my #110.
It is ENTIRELY willowone's decision to make.

re: #183 yah

Well I thought it very odd that she (willowone) announced that her husband was gone 11 months a year and she has little kids - I wouldn't be telling that to the world if I was afraid.

During the three months she's been registered, I've "noticed" (reading between the lines) anxiety. People who are anxious are not always logical.

Also, look over her posts for the past few days. These 3 were her first today. Bless her heart, something else might be going on in her life.

re: #196 Shiplord Kirel

Of couse it is. Not being a bunch of drooling trustafarian hippies, our response should be carefully and professionally planned. Just by coincidence, my battle staff and I have been working on just such a plan for submission to President Bush and the National Command Authority:

Operation Reefer Madness.

At dawn on election day, all available assets of Air Mobility Command will be used for a massive and simultaneous airdrop of marijuana, hashhish, and whatever other confiscated drugs are on hand into certain designated target zones. These target areas will include Marin County, Berkeley, and moonbat infested regions of such cities as Seattle and Austin.
The first wave, consisting of C-17s and C-5s, will drop our new ASU-66 (Air-drop Stoner Unit) from an altitude of 28000 feet to achieve maximum dispersion. After an initial assessment by Forward Air-Controllers in loitering A-10s and disguised civilian vehicles on the ground, C-130s will follow up with low altitude precision drops on high concentrations of target forces, ie head shops and college dorms. Finally, strategic assets of Air Combat Command, including B-1s and B-52s, will release individual packets containing rolling papers and Bic lighters into the target zones. This should temporarily eliminate enough Obama voters to defeat the immediate threat of a coup d'etat by media auxialiary forces currently attempting to occupy the White House and other crucial installations.

LAMO! Loved it.

re: #187 quickjustice

The article is smugly partisan. It's fair game to make fun of your political opposition. It's something else to publish an address with an implicit invitation to your readers to stop by for a bit of sign warfare or outright vandalism.

How would this "newspaper" like it if we posted the name, address, and phone number of the editor with a suggestions that every lizard in the country call this guy at home to complain?

It'd be easy to find out using Intelius.com.

re: #194 doriangrey

It may be a poor choice, but you're a man.

Women, particularly women with children, are awfully vulnerable.

You know some of those pics look Photo shopped//
check out the one with the wrought iron fence and the blurry driveway and garage...then look at the Mc Cain Palin sign - way too sharp

re: #129 Shiplord Kirel

I already use my real name. But I have voted Republican for decades and I am used to not being one of the "cool people" who know everything! ha ha.

I am not recommending it by the way because employers can ALSO find out what their employees or future employees say and for most I think it is better to NOT do so.

re: #195 MandyManners

I suppose that could be incitement for the unhinged.

Indeed.

Case in point: this bloodcurdling Mercer Island lawn display, a quadruple whammy of Republican propaganda capable of driving the most reasonable citizen to insanity.

/ temporary insanity defense for whatever

re: #15 solomonpanting

Perhaps the names, addresses and phone numbers of that rag's publishers should be made public, just to see the shoe on the other foot.

I think this is a good idea. Let's do it. Let's PUT THEIR NAMES, ADDRESSES AND PHONE AND EMAIL ADDRESSES ON THE WEB--ON DRUDGE.

re: #211 katemaclaren

I think this is a good idea. Let's do it. Let's PUT THEIR NAMES, ADDRESSES AND PHONE AND EMAIL ADDRESSES ON THE WEB--ON DRUDGE.

Let's not.

That's not a game anyone with sense wants to play.

Errands must be run.

Take care, lizards!

Need a laugh ?

Basically chics been banging a dude for several months and now she's all miffed because he supposedly lied to her and voted for McCain.

"I would classify BF as a "benign racist,"

Surprise. Here's something that seems to be a recurring theme with these people:

"One thing's for sure. If Obama loses Florida by one vote, we know who to blame. Want BF's address?"

re: #194 doriangrey

(gotta run errands ... gotta be brief)

See her #29 -- kids and alone.
See my #148 and #204.
From where I sit, the vibes were strong early on.

Be back later!

re: #210 abolitionist

/ temporary insanity defense for whatever

Not if I'm on the jury.

re: #214 Blazer in RIC

Need a laugh ?

Basically chics been banging a dude for several months and now she's all miffed because he supposedly lied to her and voted for McCain.

"I would classify BF as a "benign racist,"

Surprise. Here's something that seems to be a recurring theme with these people:

"One thing's for sure. If Obama loses Florida by one vote, we know who to blame. Want BF's address?"

Florida, you say?

re: #189 seagreenroom

Totally not necessary. We need neighbors who watch out for neighbors who use modern technology (cameras; phones; etc.) to reinforce a system of guardedness where needed.

re: #186 jcm

The bar is very, very high. But the framers put that option on the table.

The Marxists One with his associations, ideas is the first time I've every really thought about it.

Never thought I would, pray and hope sanity prevails long before that point.

Well, this idea was bandied about during the Clinton Admin. Lots of survivalists called it a "tripwire" scenario usually having something to do with weapons confiscation. The Murrah bombing put an end to much of the discussion.

I'm sure you remember the high-profile events that lead up to that horror. So does the government. I believe the institutions learned from those events and we will not see anything like them again. But I've been wrong about things before...

re: #29 willowone

This is going to be one of the wimpiest things i ever have done. I have become un-nerved . afraid of fellow citizens. my husband is away 11 months of the year, i am alone with children, i am afraid to even have my name on a conservative site.
Mr Johnson i appreciate your strength , telling the truth.
I wish to be taken off site. name erased.

Crap. I don't know which button to click.

I'm not clicking either, but you have my sympathy, support, and I'd like to offer any help that you feel needed.

Nic is blue.

re: #4 Racer X

Just wait until Obama wins. We will all be on a list.

I always wanted to be on a list. Will it help us get into all the trendy night clubs?

re: #207 Dianna

It may be a poor choice, but you're a man.

Women, particularly women with children, are awfully vulnerable.

Yes, and we all know that men, unlike women are born with Kevlar body armor and Colt 1911's strapped to our hips. Courage is not the absence of fear, it is the ability to do what you know is right regardless of how afraid you are. Women are every bit as capable of being strong and courageous as men are, you of all people should be aware of this.

Yes willowone is the one who has to make this call, but surrendering to fear only leads to being enslaved by fear.

re: #216 MandyManners

Not if I'm on the jury.

You won't be. For a politically motivated crime, peremptory challenges would be used to remove those potential jurors with strong political opinions. Between the prosecutor and defense attorney, neither lizard nor moonbat would likely serve on such a jury.

re: #221 RedVoter

I always wanted to be on a list. Will it help us get into all the trendy night clubs?

It will ensure we get a new and better re-education........... ;O

Listen everyone, Jenkintown Elementary School had a "presidential debate" the other day--then an "election." My little guy (10 years old) was the only one in his class who voted for John McCain--the teacher didn't say anything, but the class laughed at him. My little one (my grandson whom I am raising) has Asperger's Syndrome, and his disability (the "Little Professor" syndrome) makes him unable to get social cues very quickly. He didn't realize that he would be made fun of--when he did, he started to cry. That created more teasing. The teacher wasn't around, but one of the other children, a little Vietnamese child, suddenly told the class, "I'm changing my vote to John McCain." The teacher had just come in and heard and saw this. Ng (the boy's name), said to the teacher "If this is how kids who vote for Obama are, then i don't want to be like that."

This brave little boy! After that, several other children came over and apologized to my little guy. The teacher sent me a note home--also apologizing. I have spent the morning composing a note that is attached to one I wrote earlier in the year basically saying that I disapproved of bringing politics into the elementary school classroom because it was divisive and irrelevant. That first note was ignored.

re: #201 MandyManners

Intentional infliction of emotional distress?

Sue the beeyastids!

re: #13 FrogMarch

Note to conservatives: do not show support for your candidate or you will pay.

A little taste of life in left-wing fascist America.

Let every Obamaton know that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

"We pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

re: #202 CascadeMermaid

This is why I believe the polls could be very, very wrong this year. I live on Mercer Island (yes, this is where Obama's mother went to high school). This is one of the more conservative areas in the Seattle area, and there is absolutely no way I would volunteer that I am a die-hard republican, especially to a pollster calling my home telephone number. This is the most paranoid I have ever been in my life...really I'm not usually like this, but the vibe I get is that if Obama doesn't win, there will be hell to pay. Essentially, the Seattle Times has put us all on notice that if we don't vote for Obama we are vile, racist scum who don't deserve to live...

Boy, if that doesn't prove the Fifth Columnists really are the enemy, what does?

re: #212 Dianna

Let's not.

That's not a game anyone with sense wants to play.

I don't agree. There should be examples made very public. The Stranger staff are fair game--their "journalists." Mark Twain said when he had to take a job as a journalist, he apologized for not being able to find honest work.

re: #219 Sol Roth

Well, this idea was bandied about during the Clinton Admin. Lots of survivalists called it a "tripwire" scenario usually having something to do with weapons confiscation. The Murrah bombing put an end to much of the discussion.

I'm sure you remember the high-profile events that lead up to that horror. So does the government. I believe the institutions learned from those events and we will not see anything like them again. But I've been wrong about things before...

I remember that.

I believe sanity will prevail first. The most likely scenario if BHO / Pelosi / Reid get want they want, they'll so overstep in the first two years the backlash will make the Gingrich revolution of '94 look mild. Depending on the circumstances such a congress might even impeach BHO judges who overstep.

re: #27 WhatDoIKnow

Mercer Island and Bellevue, WA each have their own, very active, police departments. There seem to be officers everywhere: if the road is placarded for 25mph, you'd better not go 26. But even these homeowners, from the look of it, have taken measures to secure their signs.
I live in the "CD" (Central District) of Seattle which is a mixed, university, public housing, gentrifying area. Not one McCain sign, or bumpersticker, secured or otherwise, but lots of Obama/Biden lawn placards. I think it's like painting your door with the blood of the Passover lamb.

re: #227 Tigger2005

Let every Obamaton know that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

"We pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

AMEN. Stealth is the answer. Let them be the hare to our tortoise.

re: #75 MandyManners

But is it a private fact that a homeowner supports a candidate when that homeowner advertises that support?

Like I said, it isn't a slam dunk case, and publication of private facts is a difficult standard to reach. But there's a difference between advertising one's support through a yard sign, and publishing pictures and addresses of supporters of said candidate in a way likely to bring them distress.

Do I think the plaintiffs would win? Probably not, but they would have a case.

re: #214 Blazer in RIC

How about warning folks when linking to Kos? I refuse to go there--refuse to pump up their stats by even one visit. Have also found that far too many moonbat sites are riddled with viruses, worms and such. Fitting, that.
MotherJones is one such example, where my computer picked up crabs one time.

re: #228 Sol Roth

Boy, if that doesn't prove the Fifth Columnists really are the enemy, what does?

What does that mean?

What a sweet story.

I wonder what the kid who played "Obama" in the debate said. "If elected, everyone gets all the free candy he can eat!" ?

re: #225 katemaclaren

Listen everyone, Jenkintown Elementary School had a "presidential debate" the other day--then an "election." My little guy (10 years old) was the only one in his class who voted for John McCain--the teacher didn't say anything, but the class laughed at him. My little one (my grandson whom I am raising) has Asperger's Syndrome, and his disability (the "Little Professor" syndrome) makes him unable to get social cues very quickly. He didn't realize that he would be made fun of--when he did, he started to cry. That created more teasing. The teacher wasn't around, but one of the other children, a little Vietnamese child, suddenly told the class, "I'm changing my vote to John McCain." The teacher had just come in and heard and saw this. Ng (the boy's name), said to the teacher "If this is how kids who vote for Obama are, then i don't want to be like that."

This brave little boy! After that, several other children came over and apologized to my little guy. The teacher sent me a note home--also apologizing. I have spent the morning composing a note that is attached to one I wrote earlier in the year basically saying that I disapproved of bringing politics into the elementary school classroom because it was divisive and irrelevant. That first note was ignored.

re: #225 katemaclaren

Listen everyone, Jenkintown Elementary School had a "presidential debate" the other day--then an "election." My little guy (10 years old) was the only one in his class who voted for John McCain--the teacher didn't say anything, but the class laughed at him. My little one (my grandson whom I am raising) has Asperger's Syndrome, and his disability (the "Little Professor" syndrome) makes him unable to get social cues very quickly. He didn't realize that he would be made fun of--when he did, he started to cry. That created more teasing. The teacher wasn't around, but one of the other children, a little Vietnamese child, suddenly told the class, "I'm changing my vote to John McCain." The teacher had just come in and heard and saw this. Ng (the boy's name), said to the teacher "If this is how kids who vote for Obama are, then i don't want to be like that."

This brave little boy! After that, several other children came over and apologized to my little guy. The teacher sent me a note home--also apologizing. .

That's the coolest story I've read all week. Huzzah!

re: #234 The Archivist

Sorry bout that, will certainly do in the future.

re: #231 redmirabai

Mercer Island and Bellevue, WA each have their own, very active, police departments. There seem to be officers everywhere: if the road is placarded for 25mph, you'd better not go 26. But even these homeowners, from the look of it, have taken measures to secure their signs.
I live in the "CD" (Central District) of Seattle which is a mixed, university, public housing, gentrifying area. Not one McCain sign, or bumpersticker, secured or otherwise, but lots of Obama/Biden lawn placards. I think it's like painting your door with the blood of the Passover lamb.

Well CD votes McDemwitt at 90%, he drops to 75% elsewhere in his district.

Some of the signs look photoshopped to me, especially this one; [Link: www.thestranger.com...]

re: #235 katemaclaren

What does that mean?

"Fifth Columnist" is a play on the term we use for editorialists. Many of them are Red commies, hence the "Fifth Column Media" working to destroy America from the inside.

Your observation that the Seattle Times has essentially called for the killing of McCain voters proves the Fifth Column Media are you enemy. Who else would call for your death other than a mortal enemy?

re: #238 Blazer in RIC

Thanks. [or "Thansk" as I'm prone to type]
I try to mouse-over and check addresses before clicking, but sometimes forget. Too often I've been sent places I'd rather not go. Sometimes I just forget to check first.

re: #179 jcm

Has this been on the news at all? I saw a story on KING5 about a neighborhood in Dupont (I think) that had all its Obama signs pulled out. Reported sympathetically. Haven't seen a thing reported about specifically R signs disappearing, or being vandalized, except on Dave Bose's radio, show. It was happening to him months ago. Someone reported him to the Humane Society for his perfectly happy dog.

re: #240 xshaisu

Some of the signs look photoshopped to me, especially this one; [Link: www.thestranger.com...]

That would irony, Stanger photoshops a sign, and a (D)s house gets torched......

re: #243 redmirabai

Has this been on the news at all? I saw a story on KING5 about a neighborhood in Dupont (I think) that had all its Obama signs pulled out. Reported sympathetically. Haven't seen a thing reported about specifically R signs disappearing, or being vandalized, except on Dave Bose's radio, show. It was happening to him months ago. Someone reported him to the Humane Society for his perfectly happy dog.

He's been in the news on and off for years, '04 was really bad for him.

re: #225 katemaclaren

If I had to guess, I'd guess that little Ng has relatives still living in Vietnam.

He may feel a 'connection' with the underdog.

I'll take Ng. You can have all the Klums and Seals that you can stomach.

re: #225 katemaclaren

"And a little child shall lead them." Ng is going to grow up to think for himself. Like an American ought to.
Thank you for your wonderful post.

re: #241 Sol Roth

Wow. There are a few around here then. I live near Philly.

Aren't Asians by and large for McCain? Haven't seen that segment of the population reported on by the MSM, and have therefore assumed as much.

re: #245 jcm

By "he" you mean Bose? I've only listened to his stuff in the last 6 mos. He usually follows Medved.

Omigod I'm actually caught up with a thread. Hallelujah!

re: #250 redmirabai

By "he" you mean Bose? I've only listened to his stuff in the last 6 mos. He usually follows Medved.

The guy a couple of blocks away whose house get vandalized over (R) signs repeated, he was on Medved during the '04 election after about the third time.

re: #241 Sol Roth

"Fifth Columnist" is a play on the term we use for editorialists. Many of them are Red commies, hence the "Fifth Column Media" working to destroy America from the inside.

Your observation that the Seattle Times has essentially called for the killing of McCain voters proves the Fifth Column Media are you enemy. Who else would call for your death other than a mortal enemy?

I would differentiate between "killing" and "not deserving to live." The Seattle Times is the more "conservative" newspaper in the area. They would never advocate violence. But people like me are not considered very useful members of society. Kind of like Trig Palin. People would never advocate killing a Down's Syndrome child; aborting it before it actually draws breath, however, is the progressive thing to do according to many of the women that I know in this area.

re: #251 redmirabai

Takes some doing, don't it?

I am planning to call Ng's mother and invite her over. Interestingly enough, I am an English professor and have a few Vietnamese students (ESL). As a whole, they are always very respectful, work very very hard, listen and try. They stand out in a class of other immigrants simply because they are so quiet!

Well, dang. Now that I've talked about what happened to my little one, I'm crying again. Okay. Got to shape up here. Stiff upper lip and all that.

I actually posted about this a few times yesterday; the local talk show host who interviewed Charles on Thursday (?), Dori Monson, did an hour on this story and it seemed pretty clear to me that The Stranger was doing everything but providing Google Maps links to these houses. If they didn't want any violence or vandalism to occur, why did they publish the addresses?

I don't feel at all comfortable expressing myself politically in this area. One woman in Ballard whose house was vandalized with dog feces and a fire set to her McCain sign (which was hanging from their house at the time - they were inside, asleep) said she was doing it because John McCain endured so much more as a POW, it was the least she could do in return. I was inspired when I heard her say that, and almost got a sign - but honestly, for those who don't live here, you need to know you are almost inviting trouble if you're a vocal Republican in the Puget Sound area. Their intimidation is working here. It's a tragedy.

re: #253 CascadeMermaid

People would never advocate killing a Down's Syndrome child; aborting it before it actually draws breath, however, is the progressive thing to do according to many of the women that I know in this area.

You've put your finger on what's at the heart of this election for me--the stark difference between the core of the two parties.

re: #253 CascadeMermaid

I think this is the reason for the PDS among feminists--it is Trig. They feel ashamed to be reminded of what THEY would have done to a child like the sweet baby on his sister's lap.

Republicans tend to be supporters of the Second Amendment. I hope that fact will deter violence-prone left-wingers who want to "take the hint" from that article.

re: #259 Brooklyn

Republicans tend to be supporters of the Second Amendment. I hope that fact will deter violence-prone left-wingers who want to "take the hint" from that article.

That's why BHO needs his CNSF.

re: #243 redmirabai

Has this been on the news at all? I saw a story on KING5 about a neighborhood in Dupont (I think) that had all its Obama signs pulled out. Reported sympathetically. Haven't seen a thing reported about specifically R signs disappearing, or being vandalized, except on Dave Bose's radio, show. It was happening to him months ago. Someone reported him to the Humane Society for his perfectly happy dog.

Dori Monson has been covering these stories on a pretty regular basis. When the singing little kids video came out, the same day, a woman from Ballard (I think) called and said that over the course of two or three nights, her house and McCain signs had been vandalized.

On the first night, dog feces was spread all over their sign. They don't own a dog, so the vandals apparently had a "BYO" policy about that. Her husband sprayed the sign off, and they hung it from the house. The next night, more dog feces, and they woke up to find that the sign had been partially burned...the vandals had tried to set it on fire, but it wouldn't completely ignite.

Another woman called from Pierce county, I think, where a bunch of McCain signs had been cut with a box cutter into ribbons - but they just kept putting them back up, finally attaching them with screws to a fence.

The one liberal who called said her son had told her he was afraid for her safety because she was dropping him off at school with an Obama sticker on her bumper...nothing had actually happened to her, that she mentioned.

Bye everyone. I promised to take little bit to a corn maze today.

All for one--one for all.

Those in the suburbs of the Democratic party, perhaps even more, seem to have had their eyes opened in this election:

“Why I’ll Be Voting McCain-Palin”
By Bud White on November 1, 2008

The most eye-opening experience for me during this election has been the realization that the Left can be just as mendacious and bigoted as the Right. Obama’s comments about “bitter” Pennsylvania voters was symptomatic of a bigotry towards low-income whites which is much in vogue with the Left. Randy Rhodes’ comments about Hillary’s voters being older, female, and poor or, what she termed them in her punch-line, “white trash,” is another example of this bigotry.

I came to the Democratic Party because of its commitment to working Americans, civil rights, and an activist government. But I also believe in the value of work, capitalism, and a strong military. I have always distrusted the far-Left and its focus on identity politics and anti-Americanism. I believe the United States is a force for good and I believe in the prudent use of our military power.

I see the Obama campaign as a resurgence of McGovern liberalism, albeit better packaged and mixed with a good dose of Chicago-style corruption. In a brilliant speech,Lynette Long summed up exactly how I feel about Obama:

Obama is a brand just like any other brand. Obama the Brand has a logo, a tag line, and a song. But Obama the man is not the same as Obama the Brand. Obama the Brand talks about new style politics, while Obama the man used Chicago style politics in every election. Obama the brand is for women’s rights while Obama the man pays the women in his office 77 cents on the dollar compared to men … Obama the Brand is a post-racial candidate while Obama the man plays the race card at every turn, listens for 20 years to the racial teachings of Rev.. Wright, and makes contributions exclusively to Trinity United Church of Christ, the NAACP and Care Africa. Obama the man and Obama the brand are not one in the same.

I find it unacceptable that Obama and his supporters have used sexism and race-baiting as a political tactic. I believe that Sarah Palin is more qualified than Obama to be president, and the sexism against her (and Hillary Clinton) has been one of our worst moments as a Party, comparable to Southern Democrats voting against Civil Rights in the 1960s.

I will be voting for McCain because I trust him not to divide Americans along lines of race and sex for his own electoral gain. I will be voting for McCain to send a message to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid that a rigged nominating process is not acceptable in the Democratic Party. I will be voting for McCain because Obama is not qualified to be president.

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re: #235 katemaclaren

What does that mean?

The term Fifth Column is an historical term dating from the Spanish Civil War.

A fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group to which it is expected to be loyal, such as a nation.

The term originated with a 1936 radio address by Emilio Mola, an insurgent general during the 1936–39 Spanish Civil War. As his army approached Madrid, he broadcast a message that the four columns of his forces outside the city would be supported by a "fifth column" of his supporters inside the city, intent on undermining the Republican government from within (see Siege of Madrid).