Overnight Open Thread
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
— Niels Bohr
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
— Niels Bohr
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:22:24pm |
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:22:26pm |
Here's a profound headline: "Gadaffi Pitches Tent In Kremlin Garden"
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:23:17pm |
re: #2 CyanSnowHawk
To quote Homer: "Bohring!"
Homer will vote for Obama this evening. PUKE! Then again, I never watched the show.
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looking closely Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:23:24pm |
If anyone is interested in an old fashioned paper copy, one of the original "Prairie Fire"s just went up on ebay:
[Link: cgi.ebay.com...]
These are pretty hard to find. I hear the last one on Ebay went for $700!
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:23:43pm |
I noticed reading Ace that The Stranger (the alternative Seattle rag) has taken down the Hell Houses piece - here's an update from Dori Monson. Seems they got "death threats" or some such thing, and became concerned for their safety...oh yeah, and they don't want anything to happen to the people whose addresses they listed, either.
[Link: mynorthwest.com...]
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CyanSnowHawk Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:24:20pm |
re: #4 Wyatt Earp
Here's a profound headline: "Gadaffi Pitches Tent In Kremlin Garden"
Profoundly disturbing, but that's a great picture of Putin's girlfriend.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:25:10pm |
re: #4 Wyatt Earp
Here's a profound headline: "Gadaffi Pitches Tent In Kremlin Garden"
Speaking of Libya:
Libya pays off $1.5B terror bill
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. state department says Libya has paid $1.5 billion US into a fund to compensate the families of American victims of Libyan-linked terror attacks in the 1980s.
A department spokesman says the payment clears a final hurdle in the full normalization of long-strained ties between Washington and Tripoli. In exchange, the Bush administration will restore the Libyan government's immunity from terror-related lawsuits and dismiss pending compensation cases.
The money will go into a $1.8-billion fund that will pay $1.5 billion in claims for the 1988 Pan Am 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, and the 1986 bombing of a German disco. Another $300 million will go to Libyan victims of U.S. airstrikes ordered in retaliation for the disco bombing.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:25:14pm |
re: #10 CyanSnowHawk
Profoundly disturbing, but that's a great picture of Putin's girlfriend.
Yeah, she's a keeper. Maybe that's why Muammar "pitched a tent?"
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dekalb Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:25:44pm |
I am in Russia now, where I just got back from Mass for All Souls (Nov. 2). The priest brought up how the communists destroyed cemeteries and converted them into parks. This happened all over the former USSR. It makes me think about those who want "change" try to eradicate the past: culture, beliefs, etc.
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CyanSnowHawk Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:26:00pm |
re: #9 capitalist piglet
I noticed reading Ace that The Stranger (the alternative Seattle rag) has taken down the Hell Houses piece - here's an update from Dori Monson. Seems they got "death threats" or some such thing, and became concerned for their safety...oh yeah, and they don't want anything to happen to the people whose addresses they listed, either.
[Link: mynorthwest.com...]
I understand they got real nervous when commenters started posting The Strangers staff addresses in the comments.
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:26:12pm |
re: #8 looking closely
If anyone is interested in an old fashioned paper copy, one of the original "Prairie Fire"s just went up on ebay:
[Link: cgi.ebay.com...]
These are pretty hard to find. I hear the last one on Ebay went for $700!
I'm sure thats quite a return on invesment for the seller but I wouldn't pay $1 for that American communist garbage, sure its worth a read but its the same old retread that the left has been putting out there for 30-40 years. No shocking revelations.
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:26:28pm |
re: #5 pat
LGF itself was intelligently designed, but it keeps evolving over time. [=
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:26:35pm |
re: #14 CyanSnowHawk
I understand they got real nervous when commenters started posting The Strangers staff addresses in the comments.
What's good for the goose is bad for the gander, I suppose.
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CyanSnowHawk Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:28:22pm |
re: #18 Wyatt Earp
What's good for the goose is bad for the gander, I suppose.
At least one poster did it here. That thread has quite a few deleted comments.
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CyanSnowHawk Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:29:39pm |
11:30PDT. I'm off to watch John on SNL.
Night lizards.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:29:47pm |
re: #18 Wyatt Earp
What's good for the goose is bad for the gander, I suppose.
I prefer the chicken or the pork myself.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:30:22pm |
Well, looks like this is going to be a quiet thread tonight.
/thinking about going back to help tenderize the trolls.
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joekowalski247 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:30:44pm |
re: #17 laZardo
LGF itself was intelligently designed, but it keeps evolving over time. [=
It was created as a blog, but will evolve into ? a blog?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:31:08pm |
re: #22 BlueCanuck
Well, looks like this is going to be a quiet thread tonight.
/thinking about going back to help tenderize the trolls.
Does A1 sauce go well with gamy buttocks?
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:31:24pm |
I posted this earlier in the busy ID thread: From fivethirtyeight.com, which I'm sure some of you discount since the only point of the site is to digest and number crunch polling but this seems reasonable to me:
This is beginning to look like a five-state election. Those states are Virginia, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Nevada. Essentially all relevant electoral scenarios involve some combination of these five states.
If McCain is going to pull the upset, he'll have to get the easier swing states like Florida, Indiana, North Carolina and then move on to the 5 mentioned above.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:46pm |
re: #24 FurryOldGuyJeans
Garlic and sea salt, with a little olive oil. That's for roasting. Or you could make a nice dijon crust.
/darn, making myself hungry now.
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:49pm |
re: #14 CyanSnowHawk
I understand they got real nervous when commenters started posting The Strangers staff addresses in the comments.
Well, you know...that would be wrong.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:58pm |
re: #24 FurryOldGuyJeans
Does A1 sauce go well with gamy buttocks?
I would think A1 would help cover some of the gaminess...not positive though
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:33:13pm |
I've been watching The Presidents on the History Channel. Even though each president gets only about 10 minutes, it's fun to watch and learn about the people who've held this office.
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looking closely Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:33:37pm |
re: #16 middlecon
I'm
sure thats quite a return on invesment for the seller but I wouldn't
pay $1 for that American communist garbage, sure its worth a read but
its the same old retread that the left has been putting out there for
30-40 years. No shocking revelations.
I agree, this is more of a financial investment for the seller (and maybe even buyer) than an intellectual one.
Its just a rare book whose price has gone up recently due to historical circumstance.
If you just want to read it, I know where you can get a copy for free.
I just saw this bit from the Ebay ad, and its a little disturbing (to say the least):
"Prairie Fire is written to Communist-minded independent organizers".
Remind you of anyone in particular?
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:33:52pm |
Can any lizards help me out?
Just spoke to my sister. She registered to vote in CO but when she asked for an absentee ballot (she is currently in NY) she was told her name is not on the register.
What if anything can she do?
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:34:07pm |
re: #23 joekowalski247
It was created as a blog, but will evolve into ? a blog?
It will evolve into the GREATEST ZIONIST CONSPIRACY KNOWN TO MAN.
/dun dun duuunnn~
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:34:12pm |
re: #27 BlueCanuck
Garlic and sea salt, with a little olive oil. That's for roasting. Or you could make a nice dijon crust.
/darn, making myself hungry now.
I was thinking of doing some grilling myself...nothing like the aroma of open wood-pit BBQing of troll and troll-op gamy buttocks.
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joekowalski247 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:34:55pm |
eye's bluurrig, buttox sore, fingers nummmb... goodnight
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Randall Gross Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:13pm |
re: #23 joekowalski247
It was created as a blog, but will evolve into ? a blog?
It was created as a blog but has evolved into a community. That community is now one of the greater intelligences on earth when it works together on a single issue.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:21pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:22pm |
Read what this moron Dennis Dodd wrote at CBSsportsline.com after Texas Tech beat Texas last night. The dolt never said he was kidding...This POS should be fired.
It was a dream Texas Tech thought it could never dream. The school's first victory over a No. 1 was the 500th in its history. The field was stormed twice times before the game was officially over. There's probably not a car that will be safe for the marauding hoardes in Lubbock. Turn it over, light it. Hey, it's your night Texas Tech.
[Link: www.sportsline.com...]
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:26pm |
re: #10 CyanSnowHawk
Profoundly disturbing, but that's a great picture of Putin's girlfriend.
Russians and botanicals. It's some kind of obsession.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:40pm |
Satuday Night Live on Saturday Night Open!
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spynverzyon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:59pm |
A bit of mental exercise for the night owls (with a slight correction from the earlier thread):
PJM: Dear Barack Obama: Your Real Marginal Tax Rate for Joe’s Dreams = 93%
Claremont economist/accounting professor Joshua Rosett runs the numbers and dissects Obama's promise not to raise taxes "one cent" for people making less than $250k $200k $150k $120k $70k.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:36:17pm |
re: #40 Pawn of the Oppressor
Russians and botanicals. It's some kind of obsession.
Not a bad reason to be obsessed, I do say.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:36:47pm |
re: #32 little blessing
Can any lizards help me out?
Just spoke to my sister. She registered to vote in CO but when she asked for an absentee ballot (she is currently in NY) she was told her name is not on the register.
What if anything can she do?
Provisional ballot maybe?
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iceman Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:37:18pm |
if you go to google and enter "the stranger" as a search term
the Hell House article is the second hit and when you click on that it redirects you to the drudge report
here it is try it.
[Link: thestranger.com...]
that is funny
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:38:22pm |
re: #34 FurryOldGuyJeans
I was thinking of doing some grilling myself...nothing like the aroma of open wood-pit BBQing of troll and troll-op gamy buttocks.
Ah, then I recommend that you brine it first.
/helps remove some of the gamieness.
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:38:22pm |
re: #32 little blessing
Can any lizards help me out?
Just spoke to my sister. She registered to vote in CO but when she asked for an absentee ballot (she is currently in NY) she was told her name is not on the register.
What if anything can she do?
I've always heard that most states have 'provisinial ballots' when there is some kind of mixup. I'd look into that. Best of luck.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:39:21pm |
re: #43 FurryOldGuyJeans
Not a bad reason to be obsessed, I do say.
No (and good for him, speaking man-to-man), but I see this strange hangup they've developed on Putin's manhood and I have to wonder. Shooting tigers, then adopting tigers, then he picks up a girlfriend half his age... Is this just a subservient press that is proud of their guy, or are they literally trying to lionize him? What's next, an article about how he can drink anyone under the table? Will he go out and fist-fight a bear for fun?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:39:56pm |
re: #47 BlueCanuck
Ah, then I recommend that you brine it first.
/helps remove some of the gamieness.
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Rancher Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:40:20pm |
Homer Probably will be voting obama on tuesday if he didnt already cast his early/absentee vote when ACORN registered him. Still rusler here but rancher answered a question on talk radio other day. Host asked why people were voting early Rancher said "so when i show up to vote im not told i already have."
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Randall Gross Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:40:32pm |
Time for me to catch some zzz's goodnite all
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:40:35pm |
Statement From The Honorable Carlos Gutiérrez
WASHINGTON – The Honorable Carlos Gutiérrez, the highest ranking Hispanic political figure in the United States, issued the following statement about his choice for President, John McCain. As a Latino immigrant who after arriving in the United States worked hard to achieve the American Dream, Gutiérrez asserts that John McCain, and not Barack Obama, is the President that Latinos need in the White House. John McCain proposes to create opportunities to all Americans and preserve the American Dream. In his message, Gutiérrez also urges Latinos to vote.
To listen to the RNC’s new radio ad, please click here.
Script of “The Honorable Carlos Gutierrez—Vote for McCain”
Hello, this is Carlos Gutiérrez on behalf of John McCain.
Hispanics like me came to this country to achieve the American Dream. I left Cuba at a young age because of the political and economic circumstances in my native land.
In the U.S., I have provided my family a future that would have been impossible in Cuba.
Today, during this difficult economic time, I believe that John McCain is the only candidate who will truly work for positive economic growth for our community.
McCain’s opponent has publicly stated his intention to redistribute our earnings. He wants to control our money and punish success.
We, Hispanics, are hardworking individuals and John McCain, who has been fighting for this country since the age of 17, understands that we, and not the government, should decide what’s best for our hard earned paycheck. McCain will create opportunity for advancement, for our children to better afford higher education and will provide more accessible and higher quality health care than opponent, including those with pre-existing conditions.
So please, let’s make a difference by going to the polls. Put your country first by voting for John McCain. He has always been a true friend of our community. Do it for our children and for the preservation of the American Dream.
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looking closely Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:10pm |
re: #49 Pawn of the Oppressor
No
(and good for him, speaking man-to-man), but I see this strange hangup
they've developed on Putin's manhood and I have to wonder. Shooting
tigers, then adopting tigers, then he picks up a girlfriend half his
age... Is this just a subservient press that is proud of their guy, or
are they literally trying to lionize him? What's next, an article about
how he can drink anyone under the table? Will he go out and fist-fight
a bear for fun?
I've noticed that as well.
That sort of thing is a gigantic mark of insecurity.
To the point where you start to wonder if he is gay and/or impotent.
(NTTAWWT).
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Karridine Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:31pm |
I wanna hear the Animaniacs sing the presidents, but I'm currently downloading episode ONE of "The Day the Universe Changed"
/dang... decisions, decisions!
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:32pm |
re: #30 gmsc
3 minutes in and it's clear that the 1800s are not my strong point when it comes to memorization.
The second half is completely filled save for that guy who came between Wilson and Coolidge...please don't spoil it just yet. (;
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:33pm |
re: #39 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Read what this moron Dennis Dodd wrote at CBSsportsline.com after Texas Tech beat Texas last night. The dolt never said he was kidding...This POS should be fired.
It was a dream Texas Tech thought it could never dream. The school's first victory over a No. 1 was the 500th in its history. The field was stormed twice times before the game was officially over. There's probably not a car that will be safe for the marauding hoardes in Lubbock. Turn it over, light it. Hey, it's your night Texas Tech.
[Link: www.sportsline.com...]
I really thought Texas Tech was on the verge of a forfeit if they couldn't control the crowd. If that last kickoff would have been ran back, you could actually put part of the blame on the fans, which would have been crazy.
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Emperor Norton Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:43pm |
Before you go to bed tonight, be sure to turn your clocks back to 1980.
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Adina in Judea Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:46pm |
re: #32 little blessing
Can any lizards help me out?
Just spoke to my sister. She registered to vote in CO but when she asked for an absentee ballot (she is currently in NY) she was told her name is not on the register.
What if anything can she do?
Colorado has an online list of voter registrations that are accessible if you have the person's birthday.
You could see if she's listed there.
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Nightwatch Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:48pm |
Up to me is it?
Glad for the day I am, glad for the rain soft upon my yard, glad for my wife and family.
3 days is it now, Pray and vote. I say to all my lizards of the heart, stand in the voting booth,
take a deep breath, do a GUT CHECK, and vote for the person that will lead AMERICA in the best direction.
God Bless this Greatest Nation!
Nightwatch
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:43:48pm |
re: #59 Emperor Norton
Before you go to bed tonight, be sure to turn your clocks back to 1980.
Wow, then I would be 18 again, Right on.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:43:54pm |
re: #56 Karridine
I wanna hear the Animaniacs sing the presidents, but I'm currently downloading episode ONE of "The Day the Universe Changed"
/dang... decisions, decisions!
The Animaniacs will wait!
Besides, JamesBurkeFan provides those James Burke documentaries that cover so much more about history. I love the zig-zag style in which he presents history. It makes it sound like it's happening today.
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:44:33pm |
re: #61 Nightwatch
Did that about a month ago. >_> Absentee ftw.
/it was McCain, btw, but I'm registered in California. ):
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:44:55pm |
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:45:41pm |
re: #59 Emperor Norton
Before you go to bed tonight, be sure to turn your clocks back to 1980.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:46:45pm |
re: #49 Pawn of the Oppressor
The obsession of how virile a leader is, especially a Strong Man, is nothing new.
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:47:15pm |
People, if you missed it, you must see Affleck as Olbermann on SNL. I've avoided SNL like a plague since, well, as a rule, generally. But, I made an exception for a right Olberdouche bashing. Oh, and did they deliver. It's cryingly funny. Hilarious. An instant classic. And, how batshit crazy do you have to be before other liberals start ripping you to shreds? A: Olbermann crazy.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:19pm |
What's up Lizards? Been out all day, missed all the fun.
Looks like I have lots of reading to catch up on.
Any good news?
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:30pm |
re: #68 arizona9
People, if you missed it, you must see Affleck as Olbermann on SNL. I've avoided SNL like a plague since, well, as a rule, generally. But, I made an exception for a right Olberdouche bashing. Oh, and did they deliver. It's cryingly funny. Hilarious. An instant classic. And, how batshit crazy do you have to be before other liberals start ripping you to shreds? A: Olbermann crazy.
I am watching SNL right now
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Nightwatch Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:42pm |
re: #64 laZardo
Thank-you,
I hope my son who is on his 4th tour in IRAQ gets his vote counted on this most historic election, seems only fair and AMERICAN!
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:58pm |
re: #68 arizona9
I got it on right now.
Maybe I will leave it on.
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Karridine Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:49:19pm |
re: #63 gmsc
I loved Knopfler & Taylor's "Sailing to Philadelphia" for precisely that reason, and the dramatization of the making of the first clock-watch that could accurately help navigators (on wind-driven boats) determine their position on the face of the ocean!
First a wooden clock, very accurate but not accurate enough... then more clocks, then the WRATH of the Lunar-astronomers (Lunatics) and more, always more ...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:49:59pm |
re: #72 laZardo
34 out of 43.
/I was able to name all 50 states within three minutes though...
You are better than a lot of Americans in both respects.
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Nightwatch Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:23pm |
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:27pm |
Leave it on, trust me. You'll be tempted to turn the channel with the View skit. But, hang in there, it's worth it.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:39pm |
re: #69 rawmuse
What's up Lizards? Been out all day, missed all the fun.
Looks like I have lots of reading to catch up on.
Any good news?
Libya's pad it's terrorism bill.
McCain is ahead in Missouri, a state that's given its electoral votes to 25 of the past 26 presidential winners.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:45pm |
re: #75 rawmuse
The QVC Skit was funny. I loved the "Ayers Freshener"
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:51:16pm |
re: #77 Nightwatch
I thought you gave up! You said you weren't going to darken our towels again...
I even dinged you up for that.
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redc1c4 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:51:30pm |
re: #29 srb1976
I would think A1 would help cover some of the gaminess...not positive though
soak them in milk for 24 hours
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:53:03pm |
re: #74 Karridine
I loved Knopfler & Taylor's "Sailing to Philadelphia" for precisely that reason, and the dramatization of the making of the first clock-watch that could accurately help navigators (on wind-driven boats) determine their position on the face of the ocean!
First a wooden clock, very accurate but not accurate enough... then more clocks, then the WRATH of the Lunar-astronomers (Lunatics) and more, always more ...
You might find Longitude interesting, then.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:53:09pm |
re: #72 laZardo
34 out of 43.
/I was able to name all 50 states within three minutes though...
Not bad!
I worked on those quizzes until I could name all the presidents, states, state capitals, and countries of the world.
I'm a little weak on Tom Hanks movies, however.
;)
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:54:00pm |
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4
Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:54:26pm |
re: #79 gmsc
Libya's pad it's terrorism bill.
That should be "paid", not "pad". For those who are curious, they didn't pad their bill.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:54:55pm |
By some quirk of fate it's nearly 2 am and both of the small people are awake...I must have done something wrong in a former life...I appear to be breeding insomniacs
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:01pm |
re: #86 middlecon
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
F. Don't care until Nov. 4th.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:19pm |
re: #86 middlecon
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
C or D, with McCain taking the surprising states of Iowa, Maine, and New Hampshire.
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:21pm |
re: #86 middlecon
To be honest, it doesn't look good. I've already begun trying to mentally prepare myself for President Smug. It's such a revolting thought but it's come to this...
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SurferDoc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:25pm |
re: #86 middlecon
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
D and we owe the PUMAS bigtime!
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redc1c4 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:32pm |
re: #32 little blessing
Can any lizards help me out?
Just spoke to my sister. She registered to vote in CO but when she asked for an absentee ballot (she is currently in NY) she was told her name is not on the register.
What if anything can she do?
get a plane ticket?
likely she's screwed. even if they were to mail one on monday, she won't get it and be able to return it in time.
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:56pm |
re: #68 arizona9
People, if you missed it, you must see Affleck as Olbermann on SNL. I've avoided SNL like a plague since, well, as a rule, generally. But, I made an exception for a right Olberdouche bashing. Oh, and did they deliver. It's cryingly funny. Hilarious. An instant classic. And, how batshit crazy do you have to be before other liberals start ripping you to shreds? A: Olbermann crazy.
Watching it right now - hilarious!
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Nightwatch Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:37pm |
re: #81 rawmuse
Crawling back into the fold, bruised and battered, feel like I got to stand tall for the next 3 days
and be clam, upright and non flame throwing, straight shooting only. All comers welcome.
Thanks for the nod :)
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pink freud Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:43pm |
re: #88 srb1976
By some quirk of fate it's nearly 2 am and both of the small people are awake...I must have done something wrong in a former life...I appear to be breeding insomniacs
They're just practicing to be teenagers.
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:47pm |
re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans
It won't matter if Obama gets elected though. So far I can name 146 out of 195 countries in the WORLD.
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:48pm |
re: #86 middlecon
G. The time change puts the new Generation-Y voters in further disarray of their biological clock that the chances that this new, improved and much touted voting block fails to vote on Tuesday again.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:59pm |
re: #86 middlecon
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
D. It is looking good for McCain
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:57:38pm |
Miss Precious Perfect. Gotta remember that for my next sock puppet.
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:58:31pm |
re: #71 Nightwatch
Quick check though, I know McCain went to Iraq frequently...but I'm not sure how many times already.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:58:52pm |
re: #96 pink freud
They're just practicing to be teenagers.
Ack! they're only 1 and 4...I was supposed to have a few years to get ready for that! = )
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:59:23pm |
re: #97 laZardo
So far I can name 146 out of 195 countries in the WORLD.
I really slow down when it comes to the "Stans". I can name them all, but I still have to think about them.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:59:29pm |
re: #102 srb1976
Ack! they're only 1 and 4...I was supposed to have a few years to get ready for that! = )
You'll never be ready.
/my mom keeps forgetting that I am an adult now. :)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:59:32pm |
re: #95 Nightwatch
Crawling back into the fold, bruised and battered, feel like I got to stand tall for the next 3 days
and be clam, upright and non flame throwing, straight shooting only. All comers welcome.Thanks for the nod :)
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Nightwatch Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:00:47pm |
re: #101 laZardo
Got me on that one, sure whatever the trips (s) was more than the ONE?
You tell me..
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pink freud Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:01:12pm |
re: #102 srb1976
Ack! they're only 1 and 4...I was supposed to have a few years to get ready for that! = )
START NOW.
(lol!)
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:01:36pm |
re: #82 redc1c4
soak them in milk for 24 hours
Really?
Do you have to... you know... hold them under?
/
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Adina in Judea Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:01:37pm |
re: #68 arizona9
People, if you missed it, you must see Affleck as Olbermann on SNL. I've avoided SNL like a plague since, well, as a rule, generally. But, I made an exception for a right Olberdouche bashing. Oh, and did they deliver. It's cryingly funny. Hilarious. An instant classic. And, how batshit crazy do you have to be before other liberals start ripping you to shreds? A: Olbermann crazy.
"Cryingly funny" is a good way to put it!
It was wonderful to see Olbermann get clobbered like that!
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:01:38pm |
re: #106 Nightwatch
Definitely. I think it's 6 or 7, exact number escapes me.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:01:57pm |
re: #104 BlueCanuck
You'll never be ready.
/my mom keeps forgetting that I am an adult now. :)
that i can believe...I wasn't ready for 1 and 4. Her Royal Stoutness is heading back to sleep...but little man is having an issue or 5
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:02:46pm |
Afleck as Olbemann- Damn funny! Spot on. So intense and crazy, he even breathes heavy too. Absolutely funny as h*ll.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:02:57pm |
re: #108 LeePro
Really?
Do you have to... you know... hold them under?
/
It helps, but it's oh so satisfying. :)
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looking closely Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:03:14pm |
re: #86 middlecon
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
Its D.
Second choice (and I hate to admit it) would be B.
Either way, it will be close.
Despite the polls, this isn't going to be an Obama blowout. . .NO WAY.
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Emperor Norton Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:03:20pm |
C. McCain wins easy. This year the presidential election falls on a November 4th for the first time since 1980. November 4, 1980 was a glorious election night.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:03:38pm |
re: #102 srb1976
Ack! they're only 1 and 4...I was supposed to have a few years to get ready for that! = )
There's a new ad out where a cute little 8 year old comes into the living room where her dad is watching TV. She asks, "Daddy, can I borrow the car?"
The dad is confused as to why his 8 year old daughter is asking to borrow the car, and he looks at her, then the car keys, then back at his daughter. Curious as to what's going on, he finally says, "Sure . . ."
She bends down, out of frame, to pick up the keys, and when she comes back up, she's a 16-year-old young woman (she's still in similar clothes), who says, "Thanks, daddy!"
The dad gets a worried look on his face.
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SurferDoc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:03:41pm |
re: #114 non-lib Nina
Afleck as Olbemann- Damn funny! Spot on. So intense and crazy, he even breathes heavy too. Absolutely funny as h*ll.
Affleck takes a lot of abuse but the guy can act more than a little.
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pink freud Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:04:24pm |
re: #116 looking closely
Its D.
Second choice (and I hate to admit it) would be B.
Either way, it will be close.
Despite the polls, this isn't going to be an Obama blowout. . .NO WAY.
I have to go with C. It's what my gut has told me for months.
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:05:09pm |
re: #93 redc1c4
Well in that case, there goes a McCain vote.
Worst thing is that she is not showing up on CO register either. Yet, she is adamant that she enrolled.
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redc1c4 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:05:16pm |
re: #104 BlueCanuck
You'll never be ready.
/my mom keeps forgetting that I am an adult now. :)
she prolly reads all your posts here... who can blame her?
/white smoke
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:05:17pm |
re: #103 gmsc
Time's up, 159/195. I can't believe I missed Singapore. =_=
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:05:18pm |
re: #117 Emperor Norton
C. McCain wins easy. This year the presidential election falls on a November 4th for the first time since 1980. November 4, 1980 was a glorious election night.
I liked election night 1984 better. You could go to bed earlier. The only shock I got the next morning was that Mondale had actually received some electoral votes.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:05:45pm |
Oh, dear, this is not so funny. The fake Sarkozy call to Palin.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:05:57pm |
re: #122 redc1c4
she prolly reads all your posts here... who can blame her?
/white smoke
*pouty pout pout* *sulk*
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:06:08pm |
re: #119 SurferDoc
Affleck takes a lot of abuse but the guy can act more than a little.
I enjoyed that more than most of the skits I have seen in the last couple years. I totally agree with capitalist piglet, instant classic!
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capitalistbaby Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:07:17pm |
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:07:31pm |
re: #119 SurferDoc
Affleck takes a lot of abuse but the guy can act more than a little.
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:07:44pm |
re: #114 non-lib Nina
I know! Affleck perfectly captured Olbermann's stroke-like, red faced hysterics. My stomach hurt from laughter. And you just know it kills Olbermann to be eviscerated by a fellow liberal. I'm dying to see it again and didn't record it, damn it. Someone had it on youtube for two seconds before NBC yanked it. I'll have to wait till NBC posts it.
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:09:20pm |
re: #127 non-lib Nina
I enjoyed that more than most of the skits I have seen in the last couple years. I totally agree with capitalist piglet, instant classic!
Ahahahaha...reaction on DU is mixed, but the ones who don't like it: "Keith is not a nut."
ROTFLMAO
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redc1c4 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:10:02pm |
re: #108 LeePro
Really?
Do you have to... you know... hold them under?
/
weight'em down with a rock or two...
i'd normally say "brain them" but that's impossible. %-)
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:11:17pm |
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:11:22pm |
re: #119 SurferDoc
Affleck takes a lot of abuse but the guy can act more than a little.
I always like to bet people when they refer to him as an "Academy-Award-Winning Actor" that he's not. Of course, they point out that he got an Oscar for Good Will Hunting, in which he acted.
My response? His academy award was for writing the screenplay. He's an "Academy-Award-Winning Writer", not actor.
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Adina in Judea Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:11:47pm |
re: #131 arizona9
I loved it when he was going through Olbermann's hysterics over an apartment and then said that he, his mother, and Miss Precious Perfect the cat would have to find another place to live. :)
Also, I loved all the dramatic camera changes (even to looking into a camera behind him.)
The fact that this was done during a high ratings show (because of McCain) is wonderful!
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Karridine Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:11:57pm |
re: #83 FurryOldGuyJeans
THATs what I was thinking of, too lazy to page through my books of CDs to find it! Thanks, GaiJin! :D
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:12:51pm |
This one is kind of shocking:
No murders in Miami for a month
I live in a city with a much better reputation (Indianapolis) but there are at least 8-10 murders per month here.
Good for Miami.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:14:59pm |
re: #86 middlecon
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
C or D, with Gary Trudeau winding up looking stupid . . . er.
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SurferDoc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:15:32pm |
re: #136 gmsc
I always like to bet people when they refer to him as an "Academy-Award-Winning Actor" that he's not. Of course, they point out that he got an Oscar for Good Will Hunting, in which he acted.
My response? His academy award was for writing the screenplay. He's an "Academy-Award-Winning Writer", not actor.
I admire actors to seem to bring their whole game to the job every time. He is one of those.
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:15:54pm |
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Adina in Judea Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:16:01pm |
Speaking of city murder rates...
Chicago had 62 murders in July 2008 alone.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:16:43pm |
re: #141 gmsc
C or D, with Gary Trudeau winding up looking stupid . . . er.
I can't stand Doonesbury. Horrible 'toon.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:17:51pm |
Ok...the boy has just declared "No more bed, no more sleepin' all done"...and here I thought he just wasn't feeling good
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Nightwatch Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:18:15pm |
re: #110 laZardo
Iraq is just a part of the whole, granted the MSM simply ignores the monumental victory that our troops have secured for a country that has endured 30 YEARS of a incomplete personality disorder with mother issues dictator who fed his own people through wood chippers to make...A POINT? ... A POINT?.. ABOUT W H A T? Simply that he needed to be dead should have been good enough for U.S. That we in this greatest nation have had to be assaulted by the likes of the code pinkers (TAMPON PLEASE) and all their ilk, over the past 4 years, and now we are presented with the "O"? Please tell me, this isn't a WOODY ALLEN plot line.
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:20:14pm |
Doonesbury...the original 'leftist media' lol
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pink freud Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:20:19pm |
re: #146 srb1976
Ok...the boy has just declared "No more bed, no more sleepin' all done"...and here I thought he just wasn't feeling good
Yep, you should probably go ahead and start preparing for those teen years now. :-)
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:20:28pm |
Not so long ago in San Francisco we had 3 murders in one day, a father and 2 sons. It happened very near my house. I heard the shots. The guy that did it was MS13. ICE has been all over now, rounding up the MS13, which of course, has brought out protests by the illegals telling ICE to go home. nice.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:20:48pm |
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capitalistbaby Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:21:03pm |
re: #134 little blessing
Well in that case, there goes a McCain vote.
Worst thing is that she is not showing up on CO register either. Yet, she is adamant that she enrolled.
Has she called the elections center in her district and yelled at them yet. I did that, they screwed up on mine and when I called they fixed it. Maybe she was one of the people they purged off the registration list? She should call in any case.
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redc1c4 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:21:50pm |
re: #146 srb1976
Ok...the boy has just declared "No more bed, no more sleepin' all done"...and here I thought he just wasn't feeling good
children's benadryl...
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:22:00pm |
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:22:31pm |
re: #150 pink freud
Yep, you should probably go ahead and start preparing for those teen years now. :-)
Yeah...he's acting like he doesn't feel so hot, but at 4 he's not real clear about what the problem is...no fever and a lot of (mostly fake) "ouchies"
He'll pass out in a second I think
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Karridine Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:22:53pm |
re: #149 middlecon
Doonesbury...the original 'leftist media' lol
THIS will be our equivalent of "Dewey WINS!"
/sweet. Trudeau reeks...
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:23:28pm |
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:23:32pm |
re: #151 rawmuse
Mara. 13. The letter "m" being the 13th letter. Someone just before was inquiring about the meaning of a "13" tattoo.
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:23:36pm |
re: #133 redc1c4
weight'em down with a rock or two...
i'd normally say "brain them" but that's impossible. %-)
ROTFLMAO ! ! !
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looking closely Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:23:49pm |
re: #136 gmsc
I
always like to bet people when they refer to him as an
"Academy-Award-Winning Actor" that he's not. Of course, they point out
that he got an Oscar for Good Will Hunting, in which he acted.My response? His academy award was for writing the screenplay. He's an "Academy-Award-Winning Writer", not actor.
Actually, I think the writing award is really the more meaningful one, though in this particular case, there were pretty significant differences between the script that Damon and Affleck wrote and what ultimately appeared on screen with Good Will Hunting.
I can't say I'm a big fan, but Affleck is still an actor with an Academy Award, so is not wrong to say he's an Academy Award winning actor, even if said award wasn't for acting.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:24:30pm |
re: #158 laZardo
But...
*puts on cool sunglasses*
...is it good for business?
Now, you have to make sure you start that the right way . . .
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:24:46pm |
Also, I loved all the dramatic camera changes (even to looking into a camera behind him.)
That part had me howling! It's funny cause it's true. For people who have never seen Olbermann's show, they must think SNL was exaggerating. But they weren't and they got all the insane details right-the dramatic head turns, the blood vessel exploding red faced ranting. The only thing missing was the orange skin. I'm dying to see it again. Come on SNL, hurry up and post it.
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:24:54pm |
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:26:18pm |
re: #166 laZardo
Yeah, I simplified it. State has some good PDFs on them but can't find the link. Evil people.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:26:46pm |
re: #160 Gus 802
The kid that was the shooter was 20 years old and got 3 men with head shots, 3 shots in less than 5 seconds, by my hearing. Left a mom all by herself, just like that. The saddest thing.
I have had my fill of that gang. I want a piece of them, for real.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:26:58pm |
re: #165 little blessing
NO!
Don't drug the children.
/They'll turn out like red!
It's ok, I'm not gonna drug him. No great motives here, just not up for the WWE style wrestling match that would be involved
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:27:03pm |
re: #165 little blessing
NO!
Don't drug the children.
/They'll turn out like red!
You say that's like a bad thing.
/prefer thousands of children growing up like red than Zero™
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suboptimal Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:28:06pm |
Don't know if it's true, but it sure sounds good.
My favorite part talks about a self-immolating Keith Olberman.
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:28:50pm |
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:29:06pm |
re: #141 gmsc
Heh.
My father was an editorial cartoonist at the time of the Dewey—>Truman laugh-fest!
There was actually a paper somewhere — NYT? — that really did that. Had their front page all printed up for the Dewey win!
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:29:16pm |
Good Evening. My sleeping pills are not working. Who's awake?
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traderjoe9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:29:21pm |
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:30:31pm |
re: #152 gmsc
Seeing what happens at the end and what it linked to means it could as well be threatening.
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:30:37pm |
Hello all. After lurking for 5 years and being registered for 4, my insomnia has finally overcome my fear of posting...
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:30:58pm |
re: #170 rawmuse
Terrible. That one sounds like a trained assassin. I know ICE has been cutting down their numbers including nationwide gang sweeps.
Gang wannabes are bad enough.
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:31:20pm |
re: #171 srb1976
I could relate.
Mine are 5 3/4, 3 3/4 and 17 months.
What I would do:
Kiss all ouchies.
Apply 1 bandaid to the worst.
Give a drink of water and tell him to lie down and give the ouchies a rest.
He should be out in 15, unless he napped too long today or something real is bothering him.
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:31:23pm |
re: #179 crazy cat lady
Hello all. After lurking for 5 years and being registered for 4, my insomnia has finally overcome my fear of posting...
Well, CCL, it is about time! Tell us a wee bit about yourself. What state?
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:31:44pm |
re: #148 Palandine
Good Lord. Doonesbury's still in print? ;)
Still?
How 'bout more than ever!
*spit*
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:31:44pm |
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Adina in Judea Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:00pm |
re: #173 suboptimal
Don't know if it's true, but it sure sounds good.
My favorite part talks about a self-immolating Keith Olberman.
This guy says to tape MSNBC so that people can watch them later if McCain wins.
I've been planning on this all week!
If/when McCain wins, I want to watch it all unfold after the fact on MSNBC. :)
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:27pm |
Oh for god's sake, now Zogby has Obama up by 5.7. Zogby is useless.
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SurferDoc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:30pm |
re: #179 crazy cat lady
Hello all. After lurking for 5 years and being registered for 4, my insomnia has finally overcome my fear of posting...
Hey, jump on in! ...and welcome!
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:43pm |
re: #40 Pawn of the Oppressor
Russians and botanicals. It's some kind of obsession.
I think it is a lovely picture
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:32:51pm |
re: #181 arizona9
Dammit, if only Starbucks Philippines would give me a free coffee for that...
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:33:00pm |
re: #179 crazy cat lady
Hello all. After lurking for 5 years and being registered for 4, my insomnia has finally overcome my fear of posting...
OK, I'll bite. What took you so long?
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:33:18pm |
re: #173 suboptimal
Don't know if it's true, but it sure sounds good.
My favorite part talks about a self-immolating Keith Olberman.
Actually in 2004, there were always whispers that NJ and California might be closer than some thought...didn't quite turn out. Michigan should be pretty close.
This call probably isn't completely crazy but I wouldn't count on McCain turning any blue state red, New Hampshire is the best bet.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:34:06pm |
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arizona9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:34:40pm |
Hello all. After lurking for 5 years and being registered for 4, my insomnia has finally overcome my fear of posting...
Hello, cat lady.
Man, all I can think of is Olbermann's kitty..lol
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:34:51pm |
re: #182 little blessing
I could relate.
Mine are 5 3/4, 3 3/4 and 17 months.
What I would do:
Kiss all ouchies.
Apply 1 bandaid to the worst.
Give a drink of water and tell him to lie down and give the ouchies a rest.He should be out in 15, unless he napped too long today or something real is bothering him.
Since he found the Spiderman band-aids we have instituted the "No blood - no Band-aid" rule... The way he's acting I think it was nightmares...so I'm kinda just letting him chill and reassure himself that it's still all good. He'll be out in a short I think
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traderjoe9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:02pm |
re: #185 BlueCanuck
Toronto, Canada, gets that number in a bad year.
/want to relocate?
Too many liberals in Canada. Sorry.
Besides, San Jose contends with a large number of illegal immigrants. What does Toronto put up with?
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:26pm |
re: #192 middlecon
Odd you know. Considering that most people in New Jersey hate Corzine. Taxes, Garden State Parkway, his ex-girlfriend (union organizer) shenanigans and then some.
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:42pm |
I live in a college town in Wisconsin. It's Obama territory but we have some good conservatives too. I've been having a lively internet debate with some of my moonbat relatives in Chicagoe and boy, it's been a bumpy week!
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:35:52pm |
re: #178 laZardo
Seeing what happens at the end and what it linked to means it could as well be threatening.
It's meant for democrats to send to other democrats, so that they're scared into voting (it can be customized with anyone's name). Up until that last sectio, though, you could just as easily send it to a fellow conservative and make them out to be a hero!
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stuiec Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:36:24pm |
re: #91 arizona9
I think that Obama is not nearly far enough ahead in the polls to be confident of a win. I think he has a multiple Bradley effect working against him: not just because of race, but because of the social pressure of his "way cool" media buzz. Lots of people who won't vote for him nevertheless want to be seen as supporting him -- too embarrassing for them to be seen supporting McCain/Palin or simply not supporting the "deluxe brand."
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:36:27pm |
re: #179 crazy cat lady
Hello all. After lurking for 5 years and being registered for 4, my insomnia has finally overcome my fear of posting...
Well as you know we can be a rather unruly lot, welcome. From out of the shadows and into the light.
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:36:35pm |
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:36:47pm |
re: #187 arizona9
Oh for god's sake, now Zogby has Obama up by 5.7. Zogby is useless.
I thought weekend (Saturday/Sunday - not Friday) polling was notoriously inaccurate. When things shift on the weekend, it usually doesn't worry me.
I've also read many times that Obama needs to be up at least ten points to feel fairly secure. He's also spending money in places you wouldn't expect.
I have a feeling we're going to hear the Silent Majority roar on Tuesday. I could, of course, be wrong...but that is my prayer, and I think it could happen.
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:36:52pm |
re: #199 crazy cat lady
I live in a college town in Wisconsin. It's Obama territory but we have some good conservatives too. I've been having a lively internet debate with some of my moonbat relatives in Chicagoe and boy, it's been a bumpy week!
Good for you. And how many/type of cats?
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:37:28pm |
re: #191 rawmuse
I'm a chicken! I really don't know... a lot of times by the time I want to say something, someone's already said it.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:37:29pm |
re: #197 traderjoe9
Too many liberals in Canada. Sorry.
Besides, San Jose contends with a large number of illegal immigrants. What does Toronto put up with?
Snow and bad traffic?
/well snow in the winter and bad traffic at rush hour. :)
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:37:49pm |
re: #203 LeePro
WHOA! ! !
Are you aware that that was a MoveOn.org ad?
Yep - that's why I thought "Gary Trudeau" would be all the funnier to put in the video!
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SurferDoc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:38:08pm |
re: #206 crazy cat lady
I'm a chicken! I really don't know... a lot of times by the time I want to say something, someone's already said it.
That never stops anyone else... ;)
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MrSnuggles Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:38:30pm |
re: #187 arizona9
Oh for god's sake, now Zogby has Obama up by 5.7. Zogby is useless.
He got whacked by all the other pollsters and "corrected" the poll to make it more inline with the rest of them. Their main strategy is still to suppress republican votes, we can only hope it actually results in suppressing the dem vote by making them think its already over. Hopefully those young and dumb college kids will opt for a premature victory party instead of voting.
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:38:42pm |
Zogby is nuts. He shifts 12 points in one day -- no way. Halloween and weekend effect combined to give him an extremely low percentage of families with kids.
He was the most unreliable pollster in 2004.
Ignore it.
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:38:51pm |
re: #192 middlecon
Would hate to have anything happen to dumb Keith, geez... wouldnt it add to global stench?... after all, his hot air is the main cause of global warming.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:38:53pm |
re: #209 SurferDoc
That never stops anyone else... ;)
Yeah just scroll down and count the GMTA's sometime.
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:39:39pm |
re: #205 hermeneutics
4 cats. 2 grays (one a recent stray we took in) one tortoiseshell and one calico. I tell my husband if he dies first and I get dementia, I'll be one of those old ladies that hoards cats...
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:39:46pm |
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:39:55pm |
Just like every year the pollsters are gonna go down in flames.
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:40:10pm |
re: #199 crazy cat lady
I live in a college town in Wisconsin. It's Obama territory but we have some good conservatives too. I've been having a lively internet debate with some of my moonbat relatives in Chicagoe and boy, it's been a bumpy week!
Welcome, cat lady! I'm from Wisconsin originally - nice to meet you.
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suboptimal Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:40:30pm |
re: #192 middlecon
Actually in 2004, there were always whispers that NJ and California might be closer than some thought...didn't quite turn out. Michigan should be pretty close.
This call probably isn't completely crazy but I wouldn't count on McCain turning any blue state red, New Hampshire is the best bet.
Even it's complete BS, the idea of MSNBC falling apart on the air is very appealing.
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:40:50pm |
We have cat care tips too. For instance. You can use Obama/Biden signs as a litter box place holder or a kitty liter underlayment.
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:40:55pm |
re: #217 capitalist piglet
You too. It feels very strange to be posting. I've never done this before.
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:04pm |
re: #214 crazy cat lady
4 cats. 2 grays (one a recent stray we took in) one tortoiseshell and one calico. I tell my husband if he dies first and I get dementia, I'll be one of those old ladies that hoards cats...
I've got three cats, all strays: grey long hair that weighs 22 pounds, little grey short hair, little calico.
Right now, they're my solace.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:20pm |
re: #215 little blessing
Parent know best.
I like the "no blood-no bandaid" rule.
it's a hold-over from when I was a kid, I was a fan of band-aids. After going through a whole box in a week, Dad put his foot down
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:41:39pm |
re: #219 Gus 802
I like that idea! There are plenty of Obama signs to be had here.
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:42:16pm |
re: #223 crazy cat lady
In that case you can open up a cat rescue. ;-)
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:42:47pm |
re: #220 crazy cat lady
You too. It feels very strange to be posting. I've never done this before.
Well, don't be shy! We could use more cheeseheads. (Are you a Packer fan? I'm rabid. R-A-B-I-D.)
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:42:51pm |
re: #221 hermeneutics
I know what you mean. They really are great companions (most of the time)
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:42:53pm |
Brb, gonna help my dad crowbar some termite-infested sideboard.
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traderjoe9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:43:01pm |
re: #207 BlueCanuck
Snow and bad traffic?
/well snow in the winter and bad traffic at rush hour. :)
Exactly. We have sunshine year-round (except today). Another reason to move to San Jose. Lowest crime rate in the country, and the best weather on the continent! Also have the Sharks and Giants nearby...woohoo!
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:43:13pm |
Have you ever heard of a crazy old MAN hoarding cats? Or, is it a girl thing.
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suboptimal Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:43:33pm |
re: #186 Adina in Judea
This guy says to tape MSNBC so that people can watch them later if McCain wins.
I've been planning on this all week!
If/when McCain wins, I want to watch it all unfold after the fact on MSNBC. :)
I'll only tune in if it's recommended by some fellow lizards. Otherwise, I'll be mocking the people on "The Biggest Loser", who should start going under my weight this week. Yeah, I know, but optimal likes it.
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:43:57pm |
re: #223 crazy cat lady
I like that idea! There are plenty of Obama signs to be had here.
Why would you want something promoting an Obama administration in your house?
I would rather the cat poop all over the floor than have such an Obamination defile my home.
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:44:04pm |
re: #225 capitalist piglet
Absolutely! And I grew up during the bad years. My son has no idea what it's like. He only remembers the Favre years.
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Karridine Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:44:26pm |
re: #193 non-lib Nina
Oh, YES! Its coming down, Nina!
California = Obama 44, McCain 43, rest Undecided!
Think of it! McCain winning California! Bwahahaha!
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:44:35pm |
re: #229 hermeneutics
Have you ever heard of a crazy old MAN hoarding cats? Or, is it a girl thing.
Crazy old men only hoard things and junk. Don't ask me why.
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capitalistbaby Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:44:40pm |
How come everyone is awake and doing things like crowbaring termite infested sideboard so late in the evening?
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:45:04pm |
re: #233 Karridine
Oh, YES! Its coming down, Nina!
California = Obama 44, McCain 43, rest Undecided!
Think of it! McCain winning California! Bwahahaha!
Karridine! It is so good to see your name.
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Gus Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:45:53pm |
re: #229 hermeneutics
My father and brother take their cat ownership pretty seriously. My dad would complain at first about taking in cats but he ended up being "more guilty" of taking in the strays.
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:45:54pm |
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:45:55pm |
re: #233 Karridine
Oh, YES! Its coming down, Nina!
California = Obama 44, McCain 43, rest Undecided!
Think of it! McCain winning California! Bwahahaha!
I've pondered over that possibility. If it actually happened, that would be one of the great electoral shocks in history!
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:46:05pm |
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:46:13pm |
re: #235 capitalistbaby
How come everyone is awake and doing things like crowbaring termite infested sideboard so late in the evening?
Because if we were not we would wondering if the nation has gone mad.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:46:37pm |
re: #235 capitalistbaby
How come everyone is awake and doing things like crowbaring termite infested sideboard so late in the evening?
All the termites are asleep - they won't know what hit them!
;)
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:46:53pm |
re: #242 shanec99
Because if we were not we would wondering if the nation has gone mad.
That works, too.
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suboptimal Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:47:24pm |
re: #234 BlueCanuck
Crazy old men only hoard things and junk. Don't ask me why.
It's not junk, these were fine examples of bleeding edge technology in their day.
Not that I'm feeling defensive or anything.
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:47:30pm |
In order for McCain to win California he would need like half a million more votes than Bush got in 04. Most polls have Obama up by 20 points. Its not happenin' lol
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:47:31pm |
re: #233 Karridine
Oh, YES! Its coming down, Nina!
That would be awesome. I was born in Cali and my moonbat relatives live in the Bay area. If Zero loses, wow that would be the best Christmas present ever. Not that I would gloat or anything. ;)
California = Obama 44, McCain 43, rest Undecided!
Think of it! McCain winning California! Bwahahaha!
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:47:47pm |
re: #241 hermeneutics
What the heck is that?
PS3 is a handheld game system. COD is a piece of clothing that covers a man's genitals . . .
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little blessing Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:47:59pm |
re: #235 capitalistbaby
Not all of us are in the US of A!
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hermeneutics Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:23pm |
Karridine -- McCain won't take CA, but he may take PA and that's good enough.
RCP map is a joke. Mac easily takes the South including Virginia (though VA is close.) If he takes PA, he easily takes OH.
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suboptimal Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:24pm |
re: #235 capitalistbaby
How come everyone is awake and doing things like crowbaring termite infested sideboard so late in the evening?
Think "worldwide audience".
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Karridine Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:39pm |
re: #236 hermeneutics
Well, howja dew, Hermy! You feeling better? Fever down a bit?
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:40pm |
re: #246 middlecon
In order for McCain to win California he would need like half a million more votes than Bush got in 04. Most polls have Obama up by 20 points. Its not happenin' lol
Nobody said it would happen. We're having fun thinking about it. That's all.
:)
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:48:48pm |
It's nice to have someplace to come to discuss these things. Living where I do, it's easy to get discouraged and think there is no hope. I saw some comments earlier today from people who are volunteering for McCain and it really gave me a boost.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:49:11pm |
re: #253 gmsc
Nobody said it would happen. We're having fun thinking about it. That's all.
:)
I like to call it California Dreamin'
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capitalistbaby Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:49:36pm |
re: #249 little blessing
Ah, forgot about the out of country-ers
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traderjoe9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:49:50pm |
re: #241 hermeneutics
What the heck is that?
PS3 is a game system. COD (Call of Duty) is perhaps the greatest game ever created.
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:08pm |
re: #233 Karridine
If that happened, I'll actually be happy inside for once knowing my absentee ballot didn't go to waste. BWAHAHAHA.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:11pm |
re: #214 crazy cat lady
OK I have a cat care question. I have one seven year old female cat and she lets me trim her claws with a trimmer. But I neglected my duties for a bit, and I just looked at her right "thumb" claw today, and it has grown in to a circle back in on itself, like an ingrown toe nail would. I tried to trim it and the trimmer won't get a purchase on it. Do you think I need to bring her to a vet for that? She does not seem to be limping or anything.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:23pm |
re: #256 capitalistbaby
Ah, forgot about the out of country-ers
Yeah, Lazardo is in the Philipines where its still daylight.
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looking closely Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:50:51pm |
re: #248 gmsc
PS3 is a handheld game system. COD is a piece of clothing that covers a man's genitals . . .
Its "Call of Duty" a popular first-person combat simulator game that I believe can be played on line.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:51:15pm |
re: #254 crazy cat lady
It's just the opposite where I live, everyone I know, work with, meet in passing or come in contact with is solid for McCain. It looks possible (even likely) that the Dems will lose our districts seat in the house too, but take a peak outside of alabama, and the whole world has gone nuts I think
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:51:21pm |
re: #254 crazy cat lady
It's nice to have someplace to come to discuss these things. Living where I do, it's easy to get discouraged and think there is no hope. I saw some comments earlier today from people who are volunteering for McCain and it really gave me a boost.
We're glad we could be of support!
I highly recommend reading Hillbuzz, who won't let you get discouraged about McCain's chances.
Remember, if 0bama is so far ahead, ask yourself, "why isn't he farther ahead?"
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middlecon Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:51:36pm |
I think Virginia really is the key...very reliably red BUT it doesn't take a huge leap of faith to go blue, they did elect Webb after all. Bush won by about 250,000 votes in 04.
I think it will be 'too close to call' for most of the night, then once it gets called either way that is the way the whole election goes.
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laZardo Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:51:45pm |
re: #257 traderjoe9
PIYF. The PSP is the handheld, the PS3 is the console. As for the greatest game ever created IMO...
/back to crowbarring...
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:51:48pm |
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traderjoe9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:52:21pm |
re: #261 looking closely
Its "Call of Duty" a popular first-person combat simulator game that I believe can be played on line.
Yessir. Its online feature is what makes it so great.
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looking closely Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:52:40pm |
re: #248 gmsc
PS3 is a handheld game system. COD is a piece of clothing that covers a man's genitals . . .
And the Playstation 3 isn't handheld (yet) by the way.
Actually, its quite heavy.
Its still probably the best way to get your mitts on a Blu-ray player, if you've got a 1080 tv and the interest for high def movies.
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:53:04pm |
re: #259 rawmuse
I'm not an expert, but I'd probably have a vet take a look, or ask Mama Winger :):) She knows more than I do! (I really have been lurking a long time)
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:53:31pm |
Ooooh I like the opening lines to this documentary series.
/multi-tasking yet again
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LeePro Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:54:19pm |
re: #215 little blessing
Parent know best.
I like the "no blood-no bandaid" rule.
My biggest rule was "no blood, no fever — you're going to school!"
There was a day when that didn't work so well, though. 2nd grader son puked all over desk when his teacher didn't believe him either!
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crazy cat lady Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:54:50pm |
re: #263 gmsc
I have been looking at those Hillary sites, thanks mostly to links I've seen here. I've also recommended them to friends. I've just got a horrible pessimistic streak.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:19pm |
re: #272 Gus 802
Hey. They have a scratching post?
Yes, several. She has a whole climbing menagerie.
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traderjoe9 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:55:30pm |
re: #269 looking closely
And the Playstation 3 isn't handheld (yet) by the way.
Actually, its quite heavy.
Its still probably the best way to get your mitts on a Blu-ray player, if you've got a 1080 tv and the interest for high def movies.
I think its almost pointless to buy an actual Blu-ray player. Many of them cost more than the PS3, and the PS3 is considered by many to be the best one out there.
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srb1976 Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:19pm |
Ok, have to do something parental about the Little Man...have a good night everyone.
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:45pm |
re: #232 crazy cat lady
Absolutely! And I grew up during the bad years. My son has no idea what it's like. He only remembers the Favre years.
Okay, so you're a bit younger than me! I actually remember the Lombardi years (though I was little). It's pretty weird to think about young Packer fans not really knowing any QB but Favre - did your son take Favre's ultimate departure pretty hard? I sure did, but I guess it's going to be all right after all.
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suboptimal Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:56:46pm |
re: #269 looking closely
And the Playstation 3 isn't handheld (yet) by the way.
Actually, its quite heavy.
Its still probably the best way to get your mitts on a Blu-ray player, if you've got a 1080 tv and the interest for high def movies.
How about a PS3 laptop at 720p?
Not quite a handheld, but getting there.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:57:50pm |
re: #274 crazy cat lady
I have been looking at those Hillary sites, thanks mostly to links I've seen here. I've also recommended them to friends. I've just got a horrible pessimistic streak.
I don't like Hill at all, but I go to hillbuzz and the hill forum and I do have to say that they are positive that BHO is going down on Tuesday. Internal polls?
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:57:59pm |
re: #274 crazy cat lady
I have been looking at those Hillary sites, thanks mostly to links I've seen here. I've also recommended them to friends. I've just got a horrible pessimistic streak.
Must come from following the post-Lombardi/pre-Holmgren Packers. ; )
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gmsc Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:58:23pm |
re: #261 looking closely
Its "Call of Duty" a popular first-person combat simulator game that I believe can be played on line.
Speaking of video games, does anybody remember "Ghost Recon"? It was in the news not too long ago because, even though the game was released in 2001, the plot involved Russian hardliners invading Georgia in August 2008.
If you'll remember, Russia actually did wind up invading Georgia in August 2008.
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capitalistbaby Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:58:27pm |
I hope you've all seen this Finally, a danceoff, just how this thing needs to be settled.
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Opilio Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:58:40pm |
Did everybody/anybody notice that the timestamps on the comments "fell back" an hour between #105 and #106?
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non-lib Nina Sat, Nov 1, 2008 11:59:53pm |
re: #284 Opilio
Did everybody/anybody notice that the timestamps on the comments "fell back" an hour between #105 and #106?
Very observant, I would not have noticed. :)
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gmsc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:08am |
re: #271 BlueCanuck
Ooooh I like the opening lines to this documentary series.
/multi-tasking yet again
It's been a long time favorite with me!
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traderjoe9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:12am |
re: #265 laZardo
PIYF. The PSP is the handheld, the PS3 is the console. As for the greatest game ever created IMO...
/back to crowbarring...
PIYF?
The best single-player campaign ever is GTA. The best multiplayer game ever is COD4. I can live with that. :-)
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suboptimal Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:35am |
re: #284 Opilio
Did everybody/anybody notice that the timestamps on the comments "fell back" an hour between #105 and #106?
Probably just the server self-adjusting for the end of Daylight Savings Time.
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hermeneutics Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:35am |
re: #252 Karridine
Well, howja dew, Hermy! You feeling better? Fever down a bit?
Yes, it is under 99, finally. And at night!
Outside the air is cool, Kar, so the door to my bedroom is open. I'm listening to coyotes howl and crickets rub their legs. My clean sheets smell faintly like bleach. And it is dark. So dark. From my window I see the crescent moon against a smattering of stars.
And my sleeping pills are starting to work. Nice.
So in spite of Zogby's outlier poll, and the slight possibility that Obama wins, the world is beautiful.
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crazy cat lady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:35am |
Yep, no Lombardi years for me. I was a newborn during the Icebowl. My son handled the retirement pretty well, but he's 21. I'm sure the Pack is going to have a few bumpy moments, but it is time to move forward I guess.
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Gus Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:43am |
re: #275 rawmuse
Odd. Usually they should keep their own nail trimmed with those. Is she lethargic or approaching that? Might have to coax her into scratching more perhaps.
If you can afford to have her checked do. You know cats, if they have a problem spot it might have tendency to get worse with age including infections.
Is the post wood or carpet? Wood is better for keeping the nails down.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:01:29am |
re: #280 non-lib Nina
I don't like Hill at all, but I go to hillbuzz and the hill forum and I do have to say that they are positive that BHO is going down on Tuesday. Internal polls?
I've been visiting those sites, too, just to read - they are never-say-die people, and there are days when I really need to see that. I was never a fan of Hillary Clinton, but a) she WAS robbed - her supporters in Texas have something on YouTube, and they were so shaken up by what Obama supporters did in that state, it was painful (and frightening, actually) to watch, and b) I wish she were the alternative to us losing, instead of Obama - he honestly scares the hell out of me.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:01:40am |
re: #284 Opilio
Did everybody/anybody notice that the timestamps on the comments "fell back" an hour between #105 and #106?
It depends on your time zone. Once you get to 2 o'clock, it will jump back to 1 o'clock.
Although, I just now noticed my LGF clock jumping ahead 1 hour, from 12 to 1.
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redc1c4 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:02:02am |
i figured out why CCL didn't post all those years: computer problems
/white smoke!
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looking closely Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:02:24am |
re: #276 traderjoe9
I
think its almost pointless to buy an actual Blu-ray player. Many of
them cost more than the PS3, and the PS3 is considered by many to be
the best one out there.
I can see getting one if you have physical space constraints.
The PS3 unit is bulky, and it won't fit onto the physical space of the usual single stack rack component.
Plus it runs very hot and the cooling fans make it a noisy.
If you want a "normal" remote control (instead of the video game controller) you have to purchase it separately, and since the PS3 remote uses Bluetooth, you can't replace it with an ordinary 'Universal' type remote.
But apart from those limitations, you could look at buying a PS3 as getting a Blu-Ray with a seriously kick-ass gaming system thrown in for free.
Another big boon for the PS3 is that it has its own hard drive, and can play ordinary .mp3 and .avi files. It also has USB ports and can even play movies directly from a USB thumbdrive.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:03:45am |
re: #287 traderjoe9
Preview is YOUR friend. It's the 2nd-person PIMF.
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hermeneutics Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:03:48am |
I can't fight it. Good night, Lizards.
And it was good to meet you Crazy Cat Lady. Please post more often!
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Gus Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:03:52am |
re: #292 capitalist piglet
Honestly, yes. I would prefer Hillary Clinton. I still refuse the premature eulogy but if given the choice, yes.
Until then McCain all the way.
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looking closely Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:04:09am |
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crazy cat lady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:04:31am |
re: #281 capitalist piglet
Could be. Man, my dad used to get so mad during those games! He was usually a pretty laid back guy but he used to swear and yell at the TV every Sunday afternoon.
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Opilio Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:12am |
re: #253 gmsc
Nobody said it would happen. We're having fun thinking about it. That's all.
:)
middlecon's been somewhat of a buzzkill around here lately.
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LeePro Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:25am |
OMG! Here it is 2 o'clock... again.
G'nite, Lizardzzz!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:50am |
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:54am |
re: #290 crazy cat lady
Yep, no Lombardi years for me. I was a newborn during the Icebowl. My son handled the retirement pretty well, but he's 21. I'm sure the Pack is going to have a few bumpy moments, but it is time to move forward I guess.
You sneaked in on a technicality! You can be a Lombardi Brat (rhymes with cat, not cot : ) like me.
I'm sort of thinking tomorrow might be one of those "bumpy moments"...ah well. We'll see.
'Good night, cat lady - 'night Lizard Army. Think good thoughts for Tuesday, and pray if you're so inclined...
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crazy cat lady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:02am |
re: #297 hermeneutics
Nice to meet you too. I think one reason I delayed posting so long is that I'm afraid I'll spend way too much time here chatting. I have a feeling that may happen :)
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redc1c4 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:08am |
re: #233 Karridine
Oh, YES! Its coming down, Nina!
California = Obama 44, McCain 43, rest Undecided!
Think of it! McCain winning California! Bwahahaha!
my Move.on emails are becoming increasingly frantic...
i just promise to help, taking up a space, and then don't go. %-)
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:08am |
re: #291 Gus 802
It is carpet, with some wood and some sisal.
I'll bring her in. Even if she panics (which she does go in to full scale cat panic mode) it will be good for her.
OK, SNL, the Sad Grandpa bit, no so good.
The Palin prank call, not good either.
On that, the Advil is kicking in, and I am on out for the night.
Nightwatch, GOD BLESS you and your son serving in Iraq, I take back all the hateful thoughts I ever let in to my head. I hope you all live long and prosper.
Later, kids, and thanks for the tips.
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Clemente Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:16am |
re: #259 rawmuse
...bring her to a vet for that?
rm, I'm not a cat person, but always treat those you care for to the best - you'll sleep better...
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:53am |
re: #264 middlecon
I think Virginia really is the key...very reliably red BUT it doesn't take a huge leap of faith to go blue, they did elect Webb after all. Bush won by about 250,000 votes in 04.
I think it will be 'too close to call' for most of the night, then once it gets called either way that is the way the whole election goes.
Actually, Virginia is purple. The NoVa suburbs outside DC are increasingly blue, and they are growing. In addition to electing Jim Webb, Virginians have elected Democrats in the last two gubernatorial elections, and they are poised to elect another Democratic senator. Jim Warner, one of those governors, is running 20-30 points ahead of his Republican opponent. It's a complex state w/ a substantial African-American population, many veterans and active duty military, moderates from both parties in the NoVa suburbs, and social conservatives in other parts of the state.
I think it's quite likely that Obama will take the state.
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:56am |
re: #302 Opilio
middlecon's been somewhat of a buzzkill around here lately.
I just call em like I see 'em. I have alot of hope that McCain can keep Bush's states and win, I don't think its that far-fetched at all.
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non-lib Nina Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:07:00am |
re: #292 capitalist piglet
I've been visiting those sites, too, just to read - they are never-say-die people, and there are days when I really need to see that. I was never a fan of Hillary Clinton, but a) she WAS robbed - her supporters in Texas have something on YouTube, and they were so shaken up by what Obama supporters did in that state, it was painful (and frightening, actually) to watch, and b) I wish she were the alternative to us losing, instead of Obama - he honestly scares the hell out of me.
Me too. This is my place of solace. My immediate circle of friends and family are mostly conservative, but unlike myself are not as in tune to what is really going on with BHO. They really don't have a clue and no matter what or how much I tell them I don't think they will grasp the seriousness of what would happen where BHO to become POTUS.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:07:40am |
re: #307 redc1c4
my Move.on emails are becoming increasingly frantic...
i just promise to help, taking up a space, and then don't go. %-)
The fact that they made that "one vote" video shows their fear, but I'm sure we'd all love to hear any other evidence of their increasingly frantic nature, if you'd care to share.
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:08:22am |
re: #312 JustMyView
Actually, Virginia is purple. The NoVa suburbs outside DC are increasingly blue, and they are growing. In addition to electing Jim Webb, Virginians have elected Democrats in the last two gubernatorial elections, and they are poised to elect another Democratic senator. Jim Warner, one of those governors, is running 20-30 points ahead of his Republican opponent. It's a complex state w/ a substantial African-American population, many veterans and active duty military, moderates from both parties in the NoVa suburbs, and social conservatives in other parts of the state.
I think it's quite likely that Obama will take the state.
shocking ;)
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crazy cat lady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:09:05am |
re: #314 non-lib Nina
I'm having that same problem. I keep telling people this is not just a matter of 4 years of a bad president, this is permanent and irreversible damage to this country if Obama gets elected. Even some of my conservative friends glaze over when I talk politics...
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Opilio Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:09:13am |
re: #285 non-lib Nina
Very observant, I would not have noticed. :)
The main reason I noticed is that when I first logged on, the main page said the last comment on this thread had been posted 1 hour ago. And that doesn't happen on the top post at LGF - ever.
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redc1c4 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:11:20am |
re: #260 BlueCanuck
Yeah, Lazardo is in the Philipines where its still daylight.
maybe monday night he can tell us who one the election, since it'll be Tuesday there...
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traderjoe9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:11:22am |
re: #296 laZardo
Ahh. I never thought much of the GTA multiplayer features though. I only really enjoyed stealing helicopters and gunnin people down ;-).
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:11:30am |
re: #321 little blessing
Well, there is 2 of us!
Clue bats to the fore. Red, prepare the green smoke. We shall not let this blog go undefended.
/firing up BBQ just in case
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:11:31am |
Does anyone here believe that the polls are wrong and this race is much tighter once you figure in youth, inexperience, socialism and the "Wilder/Dinkins/Bradley effect"?
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:12:12am |
He got whacked by all the other pollsters and "corrected" the poll to make it more inline with the rest of them. Their main strategy is still to suppress republican votes, we can only hope it actually results in suppressing the dem vote by making them think its already over. Hopefully those young and dumb college kids will opt for a premature victory party instead of voting.
God, I hope so. I really hope so. Let's hope they're all still hung over from the Halloween parties. Sleep in kids, sleep in.
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Gus Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:12:31am |
re: #312 JustMyView
Northern Virginia is voting for Obama because that means more jobs and increased pay for most of Fed workers that live there. Joe McCain was actually right. Northern Virginia is pretty much a lot like Brazil -- the movie.
/Some call it Commie.
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:12:41am |
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:14:35am |
re: #325 jptmd
Does anyone here believe that the polls are wrong and this race is much tighter once you figure in youth, inexperience, socialism and the "Wilder/Dinkins/Bradley effect"?
Depends on how 'wrong' you think 'wrong' is. I think state by state there is definitely a chance that McCain can hold on to all of Bush's states. I don't think there is any 04 Bush state that is completely out of the question for McCain, New Mexico would probably be the one but even if he lost that and kept Iowa, he's still wins.
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traderjoe9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:14:36am |
Anybody read "A Bold Fresh Piece of Humanity"?
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:14:58am |
Indeed! Ya so right! Well, try this, your responsive post to me on a previous thread on The Stranger:
re: #330 CyanSnowHawk
What part of
* Posts that contain phone numbers, street addresses, email addresses or other personal information will also be deleted...
do you not understand?
Seems ole Picayune busted the Strangers into hiding with a dose of their own medicine, just after he posted on LGF (now deleted, thanks to CSH) the addresses of the the staff of the Stranger, under the banner: Turn about is fair play, they can dish it out but they can't take it - pseudo fascist.
And now here's CSH here giving backhanded credit to the one he attacked for "breaking the LGF rules" and putting those Fascist on the run in the first place.
Well, CSH, since my email to CJ and my "here's honor" acknowledgment to you on that thread - you be officially now - BUSTED!
Back in the hole, mole, go elsewhere to drive traffic to your website. The Stranger was insincere, malicious, dubious, and in the end, chicken shit. At least they claimed to be pranksters.
What exactly, differentiates you from them now? Dems have an affinity with hypocrisy more than all others.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:15:04am |
re: #289 hermeneutics
With that, I bid you fond adieu, and into the arms of Morpheus, sweet Hermy!
Continue yr wellness, m'kay?
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:15:11am |
#327 if No does go blue, do you think the west and south can still deliver VA?
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crazy cat lady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:17:41am |
Well its been a nice way to get aquainted, on a nice, quiet thread. Nice to "meet" you all, although I feel like I know some of you already. Now that I've gotten up the courage to join the fray, I'm sure we'll be chatting again... time to join the cats, who serve as great footwarmers :)
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non-lib Nina Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:19:07am |
re: #335 crazy cat lady
Well its been a nice way to get aquainted, on a nice, quiet thread. Nice to "meet" you all, although I feel like I know some of you already. Now that I've gotten up the courage to join the fray, I'm sure we'll be chatting again... time to join the cats, who serve as great footwarmers :)
Night cat lady. My cats are waiting for my on my side of the bed, like usual.
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:19:20am |
Re 329
I notice as opposed to the 2004 polls, that the margins are so wide or close depending on the pollster. I am praying that is because alot of ppl are just playing with the pollsters when they call. For example IBD has 22% conservatives say they will vote Obama. While only 3 percent liberal will vote McCain. Do you really think 22% conservatives are jumping to BO?
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:19:21am |
Does anyone here believe that the polls are wrong and this race is much tighter
Some people have offered some reason to be hopeful, but I don't know. I want to be positive, I really do but...it doesn't look good. Oh in response to what someone posted earlier about Bradley effect...I skimmed a piece by a former Bradley staffer who denied there was a Bradley effect-they said that the results were right in line with their polling. Don't know how reliable it is...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:19:26am |
re: #335 crazy cat lady
Have a good night with the bed and foot warmers. Don't be a stranger and drop in again.
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talon_262 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:20:34am |
re: #232 crazy cat lady
Absolutely! And I grew up during the bad years. My son has no idea what it's like. He only remembers the Favre years.
Granted, the Farve years were a lot of years...just sayin.
;-P
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wtc394 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:21:31am |
re: #338 arizona9well if it's not reliable, no link to the statement then stop repeating it. Either keep your gloom/doom to yourself or enter something constructive into the conversation.
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:22:00am |
re: #14 CyanSnowHawk
Overnight Open Thread
Open %P% Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:20:00 pm PDT
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.
Really!
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:22:30am |
re: #329 middlecon
Depends on how 'wrong' you think 'wrong' is. I think state by state there is definitely a chance that McCain can hold on to all of Bush's states. I don't think there is any 04 Bush state that is completely out of the question for McCain, New Mexico would probably be the one but even if he lost that and kept Iowa, he's still wins.
All three of the poll aggregator sites (i.e., RCP, Pollster, 538) have Iowa up by about 12 points. The polls could be wrong, but they would have to be wrong by quite a bit for McCain to hold onto that state. The margin is narrower in some of the western states. Of the three Southwestern swing states Nevada is closest, then Colorado, then New Mexico.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:23:24am |
re: #344 JustMyView
And when was the last time polls were accurate?
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:23:50am |
#338 Bradley was running in a more "progressive" state. Traditional democratic leads have been exaggerated when compared to final numbers. We all remember how Kerry was wining in a "landslide" by exit polls in 2004
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:24:39am |
re: #338 arizona9
Which 'Bradley staff' are you talking about? The Bradley effect was isolated and confirmed circa 1978... And its existence today can pretty much only be confirmed or denied AFTER Nov 4...
The Bradley Effect = potential voters not wanting to be PERCEIVED AS or CALLED 'racist', therefore saying one thing to pollsters and doing otherwise in the privacy of the voting booth.
/with all due respect...
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looking closely Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:25:46am |
re: #338 arizona9
Some
people have offered some reason to be hopeful, but I don't know. I want
to be positive, I really do but...it doesn't look good. Oh in response
to what someone posted earlier about Bradley effect...I skimmed a piece
by a former Bradley staffer who denied there was a Bradley effect-they
said that the results were right in line with their polling. Don't know
how reliable it is...
That doesn't discount the Bradley effect, though.
Internal (candidate) polling may be different than external (ie commercial) polling.
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non-lib Nina Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:25:47am |
re: #345 BlueCanuck
And when was the last time polls were accurate?
That's because the pollsters are liberal leaning and want to keep the conservatives at home , to give up if the gap is too wide.
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:26:39am |
re: #345 BlueCanuck
And when was the last time polls were accurate?
They were pretty accurate in the 2004 presidential election.
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looking closely Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:26:56am |
re: #346 jptmd
#338 Bradley was running in a more "progressive" state. Traditional
democratic leads have been exaggerated when compared to final numbers.
We all remember how Kerry was wining in a "landslide" by exit polls in
2004
Exit polls (though also inaccurate) are another matter entirely.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:27:40am |
Amazing how some people come here and rehearse McCain-Failure, avowing all the while that its just the way it is... reality... he just can't win there...
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redc1c4 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:28:04am |
re: #351 JustMyView
They were pretty accurate in the 2004 presidential election.
and that's why John Kerry is President today...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:28:51am |
re: #351 JustMyView
I do believe that people were screaming bloody murder that Bush won, and the election was stolen, AGAIN. Seemed that the screamers were going by what the polls were supposedly telling them.
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looking closely Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:29:53am |
re: #351 JustMyView
They were pretty accurate in the 2004 presidential election.
This is true.
But this cycle in particular, there is more reason to think the polling may be skewed than the last one (EG "Bradley effect", etc).
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:30:37am |
re: #338 arizona9
Very reliable! The early voting made the difference in the Bradley election in CA, as many professional pollsters had claimed for oh, about twenty years now. But, hey, if your trying to inject race into the political race while claiming you have not done so, well, there you go!
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gmsc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:31:07am |
re: #354 Karridine
Amazing how some people come here and rehearse McCain-Failure, avowing all the while that its just the way it is... reality... he just can't win there...
It's part of the straegy. They're having trouble getting more people to vote for 0bama, so they feel the need to depress McCain voters.
That's OK - the harder they try these stunts, the more I help support McCain!
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gmsc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:31:59am |
Good night, all! I'm going to take advantage of my extra hour of sleep!
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:32:55am |
re: #344 JustMyView
All three of the poll aggregator sites (i.e., RCP, Pollster, 538) have Iowa up by about 12 points. The polls could be wrong, but they would have to be wrong by quite a bit for McCain to hold onto that state. The margin is narrower in some of the western states. Of the three Southwestern swing states Nevada is closest, then Colorado, then New Mexico.
Iowa and New Mexico are the 2 Bush states that are most in jeopardy. Pennsylvania would be the way around for McCain, very tough test but thats why they vote the votes lol
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:33:00am |
I just feel people are scared in this age to say they are not voting Democrat, because no matter whaat the reason, they do not want to be thought of as being racist. The idea that this country would vote a man with a total of 143 days in the senate as president is scary. I own a small business and no matter how I Do the math, when I hit "=" it says your scr---d
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:33:12am |
re: #355 redc1c4
and that's why John Kerry is President today...
Did you look at the graph at the link I posted? It shows that Bush had a modest lead throughout October. His winning margin was about 2.5%. These are polls that were taken before the election, not exit polls.
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redc1c4 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:33:45am |
Bravo Charlie range control this is red forward:
request you check the stats on the Alpha Zulu niner element and confirm smoke status, over.
/Scouts Out!
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wtc394 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:34:28am |
one of the PUMA sites had a message on it, unknown if it was legit from an obama staffer or not but the content was worth noting. 1 ploy of his campaign was to have many many staffers on at all hrs. crawling through blog after blog, leaving messages like
Some people have offered some reason to be hopeful, but I don't know. I want to be positive, I really do but...it doesn't look good
and then explaining why McCain won't win. So I recommend the gaze for any message containing that message. Gonna see if I can link it.
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:34:42am |
re: #363 middlecon
Iowa and New Mexico are the 2 Bush states that are most in jeopardy.
Yes, that's what I said. Those are the two Bush states where Obama's margin is highest.
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:36:01am |
re: #338 Arizona9
Wink;) now ya like to choose a wine with that main course?
OOPS sorry wrong post...damn..."where did I leave that rake?"
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Gus Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:36:36am |
I think JMV basically wants to re: #365 JustMyView
Are you auditioning for muse of the room? Sure your prediction might come true but so can any prognostication. It's not like your taking a risk with your opinion, I can read the same opinion from ABC or MSNBC.
That's what makes you so boring.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:36:40am |
re: #365 JustMyView
The polls back then may have been a touch more honest. Now we have ancedotal stories of people lying to pollsters, people refusing to answer, polls heavily weighted to the left, etc., etc.. So why should I give credence to anything you say that's based upon polls?
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srb1976 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:38:02am |
no rest for the wicked I guess...what'd I miss?
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:38:27am |
re: #364 jptmd
I just feel people are scared in this age to say they are not voting Democrat, because no matter whaat the reason, they do not want to be thought of as being racist. The idea that this country would vote a man with a total of 143 days PRESENT, AND SORT OF 'in the senate' as president is scary. I own a small business and no matter how I Do the math, when I hit "=" it says your scr---d
Your math machine doesn't quite tally correctly, JP... with Obama, AMERICA is doomed, transformed, killed as the experiment in freedom of choice, individual responsibility and rational checks-and-balances that its been up to this point!
Little Olde Ladye calls it 'an existential threat'... Obama threatens the EXISTENCE of America, and that ain't no hype, Pal...
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:38:39am |
re: #371 BlueCanuck
The polls back then may have been a touch more honest. Now we have ancedotal stories of people lying to pollsters, people refusing to answer, polls heavily weighted to the left, etc., etc.. So why should I give credence to anything you say that's based upon polls?
Your choice! Just remember what your position was when we see the results.
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:11am |
Just curious...does anyone think McCain can pull off the Big three?
I think oh and fl, but know I feel PA might be in reach as well. Thanks to Murtha being in a tight race with William Russell. I think the undecides will break for McCAin in the end. "Better the devil you know..." Besides if you are undecided at this point maybe change scares you.
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Sylvester_T_Cat Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:12am |
re: #121 little blessing
Well in that case, there goes a McCain vote.
Worst thing is that she is not showing up on CO register either. Yet, she is adamant that she enrolled.
Maybe not ... can she do one of those same-day registrations, that some states seem to have, and vote right there in New York?
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Gus Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:59am |
re: #374 JustMyView
Your choice! Just remember what your position was when we see the results.
Pure posturing.
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:40:14am |
WAIT A MINUTE!
WHAT HAVE YOU GOT AGAINST POLES?! THE LAST POPE WAS A POLE!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:40:47am |
re: #374 JustMyView
And I hope to never hear from you here again. Now please tell me, why do you even bother coming here moaning and bellyaching and getting smacked around? Masochist much?
/there's places that satisfy that need and are more honest then you.
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wtc394 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:40:59am |
Your text to link...
take it for what you will, I believe the writer has a handle on what is going on, maybe not an exact description of what is goin on behind the scenes.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:41:12am |
re: #371 BlueCanuck
Yesterday, we read online of reports from a pollster (not an official 'report', just one poll-taker's individual experience) that nearly 80% were 'Refuse to respond'...
Which, in itself, skews any poll based on those results... skews terribly, Blue!
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:42:06am |
The fact that Obama and McCain are like POLAR opposites really have me wondering how the hell there could be anyone who's undecided.
It's like "Oh, I JUST DONT KNOW whether I'm a gonna vote for a socialist who hangs around with people who hate America or someone who has given his blood, sweat, and tears for this country for 40 years."
Really, people? Should the undecideds know who the hell they are AS PEOPLE by now?
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redc1c4 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:42:48am |
late, tired, and *my* benadryl is kicking in...
enjoy tonight's fruitcup/s and we'll catch ya on the flip flop
hasta y'all...
L8r!
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redc1c4 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:44:18am |
re: #383 TheMatrix31
The fact that Obama and McCain are like POLAR opposites really have me wondering how the hell there could be anyone who's undecided.
It's like "Oh, I JUST DONT KNOW whether I'm a gonna vote for a socialist who hangs around with people who hate America or someone who has given his blood, sweat, and tears for this country for 40 years."
Really, people? Should the undecideds know who the hell they are AS PEOPLE by now?
too busy wondering who was going to be voted off the island...
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:44:32am |
#373 Karridine
Little Olde Ladye calls it 'an existential threat'... Obama threatens the EXISTENCE of America, and that ain't no hype, Pal...
AMEN!
Nothing would please me more then watching the entire MSNBC staff have a major mental breakdown on TV.
Please pass the Haldol to Chris Matthews
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:44:51am |
re: #384 redc1c4
Night red, just leave your case of smoke in reach. But you know all the players by now anyway.
/keep your powder dry.
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:45:35am |
re: #383 TheMatrix31
YES they do know, they just will not tell the polls.
WAIT FOR IT, WAIT FOR IT...
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:45:56am |
re: #383 TheMatrix31
The fact that Obama and McCain are like POLAR opposites really have me wondering how the hell there could be anyone who's undecided.
It's like "Oh, I JUST DONT KNOW whether I'm a gonna vote for a socialist who hangs around with people who hate America or someone who has given his blood, sweat, and tears for this country for 40 years."
Devils advocate: Are they really that different they are both going to balloon the defecit by trillions of dollars.
I'm COMPLETELY against raising taxes but if what is Obama goign to raise taxes overall 3%? 5%?
Most people aren't political junkies, or afraid of either candidate.
Both have about 50-55% favorability ratings, so all things being equal they are equally well liked.
Really, people? Should the undecideds know who the hell they are AS PEOPLE by now?
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:45:57am |
re: #383 TheMatrix31
Well, there's a LINK above (#173) from earlier today, reporting that the Undecideds are breaking 4:1 for McCain...
I'm taking THAT to the bank, Matrix...
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:47:46am |
re: #391 middlecon
Woops quotes got messed up but here is my devils advocate take:
Devils advocate: Are they really that different they are both going to balloon the defecit by trillions of dollars.
I'm COMPLETELY against raising taxes but if what is Obama goign to raise taxes overall 3%? 5%?
Most people aren't political junkies, or afraid of either candidate.
Both have about 50-55% favorability ratings, so all things being equal they are equally well liked.
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:48:21am |
re: #383 TheMatrix31
The fact that Obama and McCain are like POLAR opposites really have me wondering how the hell there could be anyone who's undecided.
It's like "Oh, I JUST DONT KNOW whether I'm a gonna vote for a socialist who hangs around with people who hate America or someone who has given his blood, sweat, and tears for this country for 40 years."
Really, people? Should the undecideds know who the hell they are AS PEOPLE by now?
Hey, I just want free stuff.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:48:49am |
re: #387 jptmd
"...MSNBC... have a breakdown, live on TV?"
That was part of the radio report in Link #173, above JP...
"Olbermann will douse himself with gasoline and self-immolate on the steps of the White House! (DJ laughs, raucously)"
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stuiec Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:49:51am |
re: #338 arizona9
Some people have offered some reason to be hopeful, but I don't know. I want to be positive, I really do but...it doesn't look good. Oh in response to what someone posted earlier about Bradley effect...I skimmed a piece by a former Bradley staffer who denied there was a Bradley effect-they said that the results were right in line with their polling. Don't know how reliable it is...
It's really simple. If you want to be positive, be positive. There is ZERO upside in being negative or worrying about the outcome between now and the time the polls close on Tuesday -- unless you're one of those people who needs fear to motivate them to take effective action.
Be positive and go help turn out the vote! (Or, if you must be negative, go help turn out the vote just the same, in hopes of averting disaster!)
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:50:29am |
re: #342 wtc394
This time it's: The Communist Stupid!
(a al Carville for Clinton in '92 - "its the economy, stupid").
This will be the supposed "Bradley effect" effect in '08 for the silent majority that sees, hears and seethes at the MSM shills' cover-up, and BHO's double speak.
Chin up, vote for MAC, and just hope that Obama's ACORN efforts don't steal this election.
Suppress the votes! - exactly, all the fraudulent votes. Don't count on the DOJ, their Civil Rights Division that covers this issue is chock full of Lib/Dem lawyers that refuse to lift a finger to halt the abuses of ACORN, etc.. God help us and Mac, and go vote.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:50:39am |
re: #394 nightwatch
I love the polls...
I hear you! I found one where Ron Pall is rapidly closing the gap...
/ :D
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:50:50am |
#391 Middlecon
What if Cap Gains goes to 30% or we decide to time travel to 1979 with 78% taxes, trouble with Iran, unemployment, and home mortgages at 19%?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:53:25am |
re: #86 middlecon
So lets talk turkey...what do you think:
A. Obama wins easy
B. Obama wins in a squeaker
C. McCain wins easy
D. McCains wins in a squeaker
E. No idea til Nov. 4Personally my brain is telling me A but I could see D happening without too many extraordinary things happening.
Go post on kos, You'll be more at home.
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:54:20am |
Karridine
Sorry I did not start the whole thread. I do like the gasoline thing better. However, with Olbermann and all that hot air he blows out, do you think his suicide with leave to large a carbon footprint?
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:56:11am |
re: #401 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Go post on kos, You'll be more at home.
I don't see why some people here can't even accept opinions just a little different than the 'status quo'. I just like talking about stuff. I'm a proud McCain voter. Daily Kos makes me puke.
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:56:12am |
re: #397 stuiec
WE VOTE, this is the best country on the planet because we debate then we VOTE! KISS MY A$$ COMMIES U SO SUCK CAUSE WE VOTE! U HATE US CAUSE WE V O T E !
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:56:13am |
re: #401 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
The way things are shifting in these last 72 hours? I choose answer C, OMD!
McCain wins EASY!
That means, McCain wins by a big enough margin that the Obamanoids CANNOT recount to stolen victory, or challenge or otherwise poison any more than they have!
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:56:23am |
re: #392 Karridine
Well, there's a LINK above (#173) from earlier today, reporting that the Undecideds are breaking 4:1 for McCain...
I'm taking THAT to the bank, Matrix...
I hope you're right. I simply want to know already.
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YankeeBoy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:56:28am |
re: #86 middlecon
McCain wins easy. I just don't get the impression the blue collar union guys trust the O to run this country. These are the guys that gave Reagan his landslide. I don't think this election will be a landslide but I don't think McCain is going to have a hard time winning...On top of that we have the PUMA's. Never doubt women scorned.
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capitalistbaby Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:57:06am |
From Oct 31, 2004
News from the Votemaster
It was bound to happen and it happened. Today we have more state polls than there are states. There are 54 new polls in 22 states today. Furthermore, the lead has changed in five states, and all five changes favor Kerry. As a result, Kerry has now passed Bush in the electoral college. If today's results are the final results Wednesday morning, John Kerry will be elected as the 44th President of the United States, with 283 votes in the electoral college to George Bush's 246. But don't count on it. Many of Kerry's leads are razor thin. Counting only the strong + weak states, Bush leads 229 to 196, with 113 electoral votes in the tossup category Kerry's leads in the tossup states mean little to nothing. The turnout Tuesday will determine who wins.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:57:08am |
re: #403 middlecon
No need to post your eeyore opinions then. We get enough of that from other people.
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stuiec Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:57:21am |
re: #374 JustMyView
Your choice! Just remember what your position was when we see the results.
Why? What prize do you personally win if Obama wins? Will the satisfaction of being able to say, "I told you so," make up for the national disaster of an Obama Administration?
One wonders what benefit accrues to those who insist on pushing a defeatist narrative in the final days of a campaign.
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:57:57am |
re: #401 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
D...U...D...E...! ?
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:36am |
re: #371 BlueCanuck
Yep, in '04 the MSM had Kerry winning big time at 5 PM on 11/4, or don't you guys have any memory working. What a hoot, later that night when they mused with Bush winning the Vote, "but how could our exist polls be wrong?"
Their polling methods were faulty and folks lied to them, and they still don't get it, in their lust for Power!
The only poll that counts is the Vote on 11/4. Now go vote and with confidence.
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:00:38am |
re: #409 BlueCanuck
No need to post your eeyore opinions then. We get enough of that from other people.
I can only be on certain days so this will be my last time to talk about the election and any 'eeyore opinions' :)
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:01:22am |
re: #403 middlecon
I don't see why some people here can't even accept opinions just a little different than the 'status quo'. I just like talking about stuff. I'm a proud McCain voter. Daily Kos makes me puke.
I can search your previous comments. You're a liar.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:01:36am |
re: #410 stuiec
One wonders what benefit accrues to those who insist on pushing a defeatist narrative in the final days of a campaign.
Only the benefit outlined by the Disillusioned PUMA who could no longer work for Obama, who said:
"Sowing dissent and defeatism IS THE ONLY STRATEGY Obama has! He CANNOT compete on the facts, so he MUST send his minions to dishearten and demoralize! Obama has NOTHING ELSE!"
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stuiec Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:02:03am |
re: #403 middlecon
I don't see why some people here can't even accept opinions just a little different than the 'status quo'. I just like talking about stuff. I'm a proud McCain voter. Daily Kos makes me puke.
Ask yourself: what useful purpose is served by predicting anything other than a McCain/Palin win right at this moment? At the end of this marathon, it's not time to consider the prospect of failure, but rather time to focus in on the needed actions to achieve victory.
You need to consider that a proud McCain voter should at this time be encouraging other proud McCain voters to get out the vote for McCain, not engaging in mental masturbation about the odds of winning.
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:02:20am |
re: #416 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I can search your previous comments. You're a liar.
Ok search my previous comments where I praised the Daily Kos. Won't find any of those.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:02:43am |
re: #413 littleoldlady
What? This blog hires the handy capped?
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stuiec Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:04:05am |
re: #417 Karridine
You wouldn't be implying that JustMyView is a moby working for the Obama campaign, would you?
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jptmd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:04:08am |
Praying Karridine is right about McCain wining, I bid you all a goodnight.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:04:35am |
re: #413 littleoldlady
Fruitcup for the confused --->
Does this mean we get double fruitcup?
/scoops one just in case. :)
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:04:37am |
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:11am |
re: #409 BlueCanuck
Should have seen the new hardwood floor I laid in less than 4 hours, man modern applications rock compared to the old days of tongue and groove.
Even better than sheet linoleum (lead ladened), now if only I can build that windmill to power my house...
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RTLM Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:12am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:32am |
re: #421 stuiec
You wouldn't be implying that JustMyView is a moby working for the Obama campaign, would you?
Doesn't matter, it's just a moby period.
/and we all know how to deal with mobies right?
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:05:33am |
re: #418 stuiec
Ask yourself: what useful purpose is served by predicting anything other than a McCain/Palin win right at this moment? At the end of this marathon, it's not time to consider the prospect of failure, but rather time to focus in on the needed actions to achieve victory.
You need to consider that a proud McCain voter should at this time be encouraging other proud McCain voters to get out the vote for McCain, not engaging in mental masturbation about the odds of winning.
I am in the minority here of actually putting some credence in the polls. I don't think they are completely crazy, its a bad year to be a Republican, I don't think anyone can deny that. There's alot of reasons to believe that McCain would be behind.
BUT just because he's behind doesn't mean talking about possible outcomes is going to ruin his chances. Anyone who won't go out to vote because of what they read in blog comments is beyond the pale.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:30am |
Back from crowbarring and recovering from an allergy attack. What'd I miss?
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:42am |
re: #418 stuiec
Ask yourself: what useful purpose is served by predicting anything other than a McCain/Palin win right at this moment? At the end of this marathon, it's not time to consider the prospect of failure, but rather time to focus in on the needed actions to achieve victory.
You need to consider that a proud McCain voter should at this time be encouraging other proud McCain voters to get out the vote for McCain, not engaging in mental masturbation about the odds of winning.
I completely agree that McCain supporters should be doing everything they can to win--voting, encouraging others to vote, making calls, whatever. But that doesn't mean it makes sense to claim that the results of public opinion surveys are fiction.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:55am |
RTLM! :-)
You're going to make me say "yes" twice, aren't you?
I think there's people around the world who haven't changed their clocks as we have. This batch is for them.
/I expect y'all to catch up by tomorrow...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:06:58am |
re: #426 nightwatch
Can't help you there, I am all thumbs.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:07:22am |
re: #421 stuiec
You wouldn't be implying that JustMyView is a moby working for the Obama campaign, would you?
"Excuse me, we have THIS shoe, Sir, and we'll just slip it on and- OH! It fits? Well, then he might as well wear it, Cinderella fashion, eh?"
/Grain of Salt Department Stuie... :D
"Stoopid is as stoopid does, my mother says."
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wtc394 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:07:26am |
re: #398 Picayune
I think you misread my statement, I was telling eeyore to knock it off.
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YankeeBoy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:09:04am |
S**t...I responded to a moby. Thank you sir may I have another.
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traderjoe9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:09:58am |
My clock just went from 1:59 to 1:00. Wowzers.
Good night ya'll. Don't let the lib's bite.
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:10:00am |
I'll pass on the fruit-cup tonight,
Scotch...ice...a stout glass and quiet beneath the Orange tree, with a brisk rain approaching...yes, that will do just fine...
night to the lizards
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:10:20am |
Hmmm, fascinating.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:10:58am |
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:13:45am |
But that doesn't mean it makes sense to claim that the results of public opinion surveys are fiction.
We're claiming the results are fiction for other reasons:
1/The tremendous disparity between them (17% vs 1%)
2/The reported existence of up to 80% Refusal to Respond responses, and
3/The Bradley Effect being IN EFFECT as we speak here...
/among other things. THESE, at least, are enough to delegitimize the polls. Period.
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:14:29am |
re: #434 BlueCanuck
just blowing puff, what I really want is cherry wood in 6 inch planks with mahogany bow-ties to dress it all up.. my dream...my dream
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:16:25am |
re: #430 middlecon
Dude, we've have enough of that crap from the MSM and to many others for to long, get it. The polls are used by many to shape opinions, not report them, as in Zogby, with his close relationship to the O.
Mac is closing now, now post positive and go vote, and inform your friends/fam. Got it?
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:16:49am |
re: #442 BlueCanuck
Well, I ran yr linkie, but as feebed-out as his arguments are here, I'm inclined to believe he's NOT an al-Jazeera supporter or regular reader there...
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Teacake! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:17:11am |
Hey there night owls. If you don't mind I'd like to ask for advise.
Has anyone here experienced getting a cold shoulder from people for no apparent reason? If so, did you ask what was going on and if so, how do you approach people when they are obviously giving the cold shoulder?
I suspect that someone who is hostile toward me, who is very good friends with these 2 others might be spreading rumors or gossip which is totally fabricated. But if they are his friend and no longer will even say hello to me, how would you go about asking what's going on?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:19:18am |
re: #448 Karridine
That's not the reason I linked it. I too concur with your assessment. It was what it was responding to. :)
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:19:53am |
re: #444 Karridine
We're claiming the results are fiction for other reasons:
1/The tremendous disparity between them (17% vs 1%)
2/The reported existence of up to 80% Refusal to Respond responses, and
3/The Bradley Effect being IN EFFECT as we speak here.../among other things. THESE, at least, are enough to delegitimize the polls. Period.
Right, but some of these claims are fiction. For instance, people who have examined the results of recent elections involving candidates have found no evidence of a Bradley effect. Except for the New Hampshire, Obama did not underperform his poll results in the primaries. He was, in fact, more likely to overperform. As to disparity, I haven't seen the range of results you suggest. The three poll aggregators mentioned above (RCP, 538, Pollster) all have Obama ahead by 6-8 points. As to the 80% refusal rate, if you have a link, I'd be interested in reading about that result.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:20:02am |
Teacake: having little paitence for such nonsense, I confront the person and ask what the problem is, then ask where they heard it
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:20:57am |
Can I tell you guys something about polls?
We've been sitting around debating the weights given in the polls - dem vs rep vs ind - and saying they're wrong. This does not matter. The other day someone linked to a (supposed) Obama insider who (supposedly) revealed the current strategy of hyping the polls to demoralize McCain voters. The most important thing that person said was that some pollsters are getting up to an 80% non-response rate.
The polls are designed with small samples that in theory reflect the larger population. NOT THIS TIME. The non-responders (refuse to answer, hang ups, or like me non-phone answerers) are without a doubt heavier weighted to McCain.
The polls are CaCa. IGNORE THEM.
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wtc394 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:20:59am |
re: #449 Teacake!
Hey there night owls. If you don't mind I'd like to ask for advise.
Has anyone here experienced getting a cold shoulder from people for no apparent reason? If so, did you ask what was going on and if so, how do you approach people when they are obviously giving the cold shoulder?
I suspect that someone who is hostile toward me, who is very good friends with these 2 others might be spreading rumors or gossip which is totally fabricated. But if they are his friend and no longer will even say hello to me, how would you go about asking what's going on?
being more blunt than most, I would probably start the conversation off with "hey asshole, wtf is your problem ?" but there may be a better way of saying that.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:21:49am |
...which Karridine managed to say in one sentence. ;_)
/need. coffee.
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Teacake! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:21:57am |
Hi Jewels. in person or is it okay to ask in an email? I tend to be a very shy gal when it comes to uncomfortable situations.
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:22:04am |
re: #449 Teacake!
Halitosis? (just joking), don't really know, give it time, it will all come out. I think we're in the same city - the Cresent one.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:23:14am |
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Teacake! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:23:18am |
that's funny wtc. that's what I feel like inside. I could say that actually, why are you assholes being such assholes? lol
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nightwatch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:23:48am |
re: #449 Teacake!
Easy now, thick skin (Scales) is the lizard way. pace yourself, pick your point of entry and dive in HONEST! If u be troll, u not last long. Many are the lizoid army, yet they give fair wind to the honest but block the troll.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:23:55am |
sure. I'm not going to be up much longer...bout of insomnia here...but go ahead
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:24:04am |
re: #456 littleoldlady
...which Karridine managed to say in one sentence. ;_)/need. coffee.
Oh, Sweet Friend, coffee and hugs to you...
We're just glad you're well and HERE! :D
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Teacake! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:24:12am |
Picayune ! Hey! What neighborhood do you live? !
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welshgirl Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:24:22am |
re: #449 Teacake!
Hot tongue, cold shoulder, huh? Just get up yer courage and ask anybody involved. Keeping quiet will kill you.
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:24:30am |
Doing a google on '80% refuse to take polls', I can see it was mentioned by Rush Limbaugh and on other conservative blogs.
I think its very likely that most people just consider polls the same as telemarketers, but no real link to a news story about the '80%' theory.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:24:56am |
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wtc394 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:25:36am |
re: #461 Teacake!
that's funny wtc. that's what I feel like inside. I could say that actually, why are you assholes being such assholes? lol
perfect, pratice it a bit the let her rip...although putting him/them on the spot in public could work too. In a group, be nice, say hello, start conversation and make them look rude or walk away. Someone will notice and maybe make the situation clearer.
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Teacake! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:25:44am |
I don't catch your drift exactly Nightwatch. I've been at lgf for several years and I've been known to ask for personal advise on many occasion since people here have really good advise.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:25:58am |
re: #467 middlecon
Of course, why should the MSM say that they are getting bad data. Especially since they have shown how deep in the cess pool they are for Zero™
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:26:31am |
re: #467 middlecon
Crunch the numbers yourself. Assume a 50% non response rate, if you think 80% is unreasonable.
At best the race is even.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:27:26am |
I mean, at best for Obama. At worst for McCain.
/still.need.coffee.
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Teacake! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:29:28am |
welshgirl - it has been very distressful. I know for sure that this fellow moved into my building for nafarious reasons and he managed to come between me and the fellow I was seeing. Its a very long story. But that both his friends who used to be my friends have become so cold toward me, is more than strange and I suspect he is poisoning the well - but they are both so defensive toward him, oh well, i need to just ask WTF is going on. Point blank.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:30:00am |
re: #474 littleoldlady
I mean, at best for Obama. At worst for McCain./still.need.coffee.
Right on the money, Little Olde!
With a 50% Non-Responder value in ANY poll, it would skew the results three ways to Tuesday!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:31:36am |
Am I too late for the Fall Back version of fruitcup?
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:32:38am |
re: #465 Teacake!
Bucktown baby. The one without cold shoulders or halitosis! Lighten up, some friends aren't worth having, and some that are, are the best. When in Houston, nobody wanted to form close friendships, cause so many moved away so quickly due to jobs, etc.
But that's rarely the case in NOLA. It's a place all its own. And so unique!
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Teacake! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:32:47am |
Okay, thanks all. Just wanted a little advise and you all seem to agree its best I ask rather than continue to pretend nothing odd is going on.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:34:07am |
re: #476 Teacake!
Move on, Teacake.
If they are willing to LISTEN to gossip about you, they are no FRIENDS to you.
Moreover, if they are willing to socially stigmatize you AS IF the gossip were true, THEY ARE NO FRIENDS to you.
Thank God you've seen their hearts, do NOT try to initiate a convincing explanation, just go your own way and enjoy your life with NEW, FRIENDLY friends!
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:34:28am |
re: #467 middlecon
Doing a google on '80% refuse to take polls', I can see it was mentioned by Rush Limbaugh and on other conservative blogs.
I think its very likely that most people just consider polls the same as telemarketers, but no real link to a news story about the '80%' theory.
IGNORE...
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Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:35:32am |
Yeehaa! Texas Tech 39, Texas 33
It was as risky a pass as Graham Harrell has ever thrown. Also the most important.With the final seconds ticking off and Texas Tech trailing by a point, the Texas Tech quarterback saw Michael Crabtree in double coverage and let it fly. The All-American wide receiver snagged it on the sideline, shook off a defender and ducked into the end zone with one second left.
With that stunning 28-yard touchdown, the No. 6 Red Raiders turned near-heartbreak into a wild victory, 39-33 over No. 1 Texas on Saturday night.
It was Tech's first win ever on a number 1 ranked team and the 500th football victory in the school's history. It was marred by the infantile and moronic behavior of Tech fans who drew not one but two major penalties when they ran onto the field after the final touchdown. There was one second left on the clock and Tech still had to kick off to Texas, giving the Longhorns a final chance. Because of the two fifteen yard penalties, Tech had to kick from its own 7 yard line, against two of the best kick returners in the game. They stopped Texas to end the game on the kickoff but it could have been a disaster.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:35:47am |
re: #477 Karridine
I can only hope that the youth vote are not as energized (compared to '00 and '04) as the Obama campaign has made it seem. Unlike crusty old Kerry, Obama is actually an appealing figure to kids my age.
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welshgirl Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:36:13am |
re: #476 Teacake!
I agree, you have to speak up. Life's tough like that. Been there, done that! LOL
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:36:18am |
re: #467 middlecon
Doing a google on '80% refuse to take polls', I can see it was mentioned by Rush Limbaugh and on other conservative blogs.
I think its very likely that most people just consider polls the same as telemarketers, but no real link to a news story about the '80%' theory.
BTW, your avatar is creepy.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:36:25am |
Fenway! :-)
(Can't link to comments for some reason... :-/ ) #413
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middlecon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:38:16am |
re: #489 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
BTW, your avatar is creepy.
It's a jolly face...how could a jolly face be creepy? lol
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:04am |
re: #486 shiplord kirel
And they had to beat Texas and the refs to win the game. Most of the calls against Texas Tech were brutal.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:19am |
Lazardo: I tend to difuse the enthusiasum for Obama with the younger set when I remind them that they will be paying for all the asshatery that Obama is pushing
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RTLM Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:20am |
According to Alexander Tyler, there are 8 stages in the life of a Democracy.
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage "
Me thinks we're at #6, teetering on #7.
I'd like to be around for #2 redux.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:40am |
re: #492 middlecon
Clowns are supposed to have jolly faces painted on...yet that in no way diminishes the creepiness factor.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:39:59am |
4 – The Bradley Effect. Don’t believe those polls for a second. I just went over our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states: Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”. The only two of these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico. The reason for such polling discrepancy is the Bradley Effect, and this is a subject of much discussion in the campaign. In general, we tend to take a -10 point percentage in allowing for this, and are not comfortable until the polls give us a spread well over this mark. This is why we are still campaigning in Virginia and Pennsylvania! This is why Ohio is such a desperate hope for us! What truly bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these into the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama is the “hip” choice, and we all know it.
Just ONE of the points elucidated at IsraPundit's place! (emphasis added)
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:40:25am |
re: #482 Teacake!
The best part, on the Lake. Lived in Metairie Club Gardens, and the Garden District, Uptown, prior to Houston, but nothing beats living on the lake - the Briney breezes and soft zephyrs make life here delightful - and ya don't need to take your uzzy w/ you, when taking a walk along the Lake.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:41:46am |
re: #497 Karridine
THAT'S where I read it! Thanks! :-)
/good thing some still have brain cells that work... ;-)
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:43:16am |
re: #487 laZardo
FL reports that the youths ain't showing up in the numbers the Dems projected in the early voting.
What's up dudes?
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:43:44am |
re: #497 Karridine
Just ONE of the points elucidated at IsraPundit's place! (emphasis added)
Elucidated by an anonymous poster who provides no supporting data. Not the most credible source.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:43:48am |
re: #499 littleoldlady
Put your head back and POUR the coffee over your forehead, let it dribble out your years...
/Good Wake-UP for Brain Cells, Kiddo!
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:43:58am |
Ok here it is! Watch it fast before NBC yanks it
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:45:27am |
re: #501 JustMyView
Elucidated by an anonymous poster who provides no supporting data. Not the most credible source.
Exactly!
Being a KNOWN OPERATIVE for Hillary AND Obama could be reason enough for not wanting to reveal her true name, especially in light of Joe the Plumber's treatment, but by golly, you're RIGHT.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:45:58am |
and now for something completely different...stills from the new Star trek film for 2009
[Link: trekmovie.com...]
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:46:19am |
Good morning, people. One of my sons is running the NYC marathon today. So he just drove off now 4:45 am to get to Staten Island to wait to start at 10:00 am. He says it will take him about 4 hours to run the course. Mother tuts and fusses and frets, of course, but he says he's run 26 miles 7 times before. What snacks did he take with him? A not ripe banana and a cut up baked potato.
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Picayune Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:47:13am |
re: #493 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I watched it all, while watching the Hornets go 3-0 at home against the Cavs. TT has got game. They led the entire way. But, the Tulane Green Wave fell to the "Cheating Tigers" in Baton Rouge tonight, maybe next year! TT can do it and so has the GW.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:48:47am |
re: #506 nonic
Good morning, people. One of my sons is running the NYC marathon today. So he just drove off now 4:45 am to get to Staten Island to wait to start at 10:00 am. He says it will take him about 4 hours to run the course. Mother tuts and fusses and frets, of course, but he says he's run 26 miles 7 times before. What snacks did he take with him? A not ripe banana and a cut up baked potato.
Actually, 26 miles, 365 yards if I remember correctly. : )
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:49:13am |
re: #502 Karridine
I'll try that! Meanwhile, can you remember where I read this? ;-)
Florida Dems were thrilled because they got a +17% turnout vs. Reps.
Exit polls showed a 2 point race...
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:50:44am |
nonic! :-)
Good clean fun, and a (relatively) nice day for it! :-)
I wish him lots of luck!
/the good news is, I'm too old to be jealous... ;-)
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:51:04am |
re: #500 Picayune
I don't know who suggested this, but I can guess that some of them weren't voting because they think "it's already won."
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:51:27am |
re: #507 Picayune
I watched it all, while watching the Hornets go 3-0 at home against the Cavs. TT has got game. They led the entire way. But, the Tulane Green Wave fell to the "Cheating Tigers" in Baton Rouge tonight, maybe next year! TT can do it and so has the GW.
OK...: )
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:52:49am |
Heh...caught some of that Michigan State/Wisconsin game earlier as well as the 4th quarter of the Minnesota/Northwestern game; not even a Big Ten kind of guy, but I'm glad I did.
Later on in the day I flipped back and forth between the Celtics and Bruins (Thomas excelled in net again and that little bitch Avery got the beatdown that was coming to him) before tuning into that Texas/Texas Tech game...which was one of those all-too-rare matchups that actually lived up to the hype (too bad I was too big of a wuss to plunk some $$$ down on Northwestern, Mich. State or Tex. Tech earlier this week).
Was able to catch most of the final game of the Hockey Night in Canada doubleheader on the NHL network...the poor hapless Kings made it interesting towards the end, but that's about all anyone could say ever since they moved into the Staples Center. After that, I caught some of the Arizona State/Oregon State game (or Dustin Pedroia's alma mater versus Jacoby Ellsbury's alma-mater), which came down to a 2-point conversion with 21 seconds left in regulation.
It was one of those quirky, rare days where every game I seemed to be tuning into was a cliffhanger (except for that Bruins/Stars game- that was pretty much a one-sided beatdown) and even though I was station-hopping, I seemed to be tuning in at just the right time...
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:53:06am |
re: #504 Karridine
Exactly!
Being a KNOWN OPERATIVE for Hillary AND Obama could be reason enough for not wanting to reveal her true name, especially in light of Joe the Plumber's treatment, but by golly, you're RIGHT.
I see your point, but, still, unless this writer is willing to stand behind what he or she says, this statement doesn't have any more credibility than the rumors about Obama's birth certificate.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:53:21am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:53:41am |
Jewels! :-)
How're you doing? New job, right?
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:54:30am |
So, clothes that the marathoners wear this morning while they're waiting they won't want when they run. And they'll be taking them off in Staten Island and finish running on Central Park South. So the organizers will have bins set up at the Start Line so that the runners can give away those duds to be distributed to the homeless. I think that was a good idea. My son bought a heavy red plaid flannel shirt for the purpose.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:56:03am |
Lol
Yes...working as a "account manager" for NELNet. prettmuch when accounts have been screwed up...they give it to me to fix
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:58:55am |
re: #515 JustMyView
I see your point, but, still, unless this writer is willing to stand behind what he or she says, this statement doesn't have any more credibility than the rumors about Obama's birth certificate.
Or Palin's magical banned book list...
Or Palin's membership in the Alaska Independence Party
Or McCain's involvement in the Keating Five
Or members of the crowd shouting 'kill him!' during McCain rally in Pennsylvania
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:59:25am |
re: #516 TheMatrix31
Omg, I missed bits the first time because I was laughing so hard. Seeing it now a 2nd and 3rd time, it's even funnier than I thought. It brilliantly nails Olbermann on all aspects of his vile personality, complete with dramatic head turns. Seriously, people, back away from keyboards while watching.
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:59:57am |
#508 Ozark Mountain
Yeah, I know. I think it was a marathon that he ran around Crater Lake (if that's the name of it, a volcanic rim) in Washington or Oregon, wherever.
#510 littleoldlady
Hiya, kid. Thanks. :-)
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:00:02am |
It's 5 am. Do you know where your fruitcup is?
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:00:36am |
re: #523 littleoldlady
Excellent, more fruitcup. Thanks a lot littleoldlady.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:00:48am |
re: #503 arizona9
A bit grunty for the tone but the dialogue is spot on.
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Scion9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:01:01am |
The Olbermann SNL skit that was being discussed at the top of the thread.
If you've never seen him, check out Greg Gutfeld on Fox. I can't help but think that his shtickh is a partial parody of Olbermann. He ends all of his editorials and rants with the admonition, "And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler."
Very Olbermann-esque.
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:01:39am |
Piper Palin, giving the finger(s).
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:01:48am |
re: #520 Fenway_Nation
Or Palin's magical banned book list...
Or Palin's membership in the Alaska Independence Party
Or McCain's involvement in the Keating Five
Or members of the crowd shouting 'kill him!' during McCain rally in Pennsylvania
Absolutely! (With the exception of McCain's involvement in the Keating Five, which he acknowledges.)
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:02:20am |
re: #509 littleoldlady
No, Ma'am... doesn't ring a bell, sorry
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:02:28am |
kitten break!
[Link: www.dailykitten.com...]
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:06:00am |
#528 Slumber
SEE?! I told my friend who sent me that picture that it was photoshopped. I told him that it seemed very unlikely that the old lady in the picture would be smiling indulgently at the kid flipping the bird.
Thank you for the links which I am now going to forward to him.
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:07:03am |
That same "friend" #532 also told me that Joe the Plumber was an "urban legend." Whatever the hell he thought he meant by that. I didn't get into a discussion of it with him.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:08:08am |
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:08:10am |
re: #523 littleoldlady
It's 5 am. Do you know where your fruitcup is?
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Time changes have me confused.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:08:43am |
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:09:03am |
re: #529 JustMyView
JMV, it is of little import WHO she is, or whether she actually worked for Hillary and Obama... Her revelations dovetail with other observations, require no suspension of disbelief, call for no leap of faith and only clarify some things we've been seeing implied elsewhere.
If you choose to read the gray of her detailed report and declare "Incredible" then that's your choice.
I choose to declare it "Interesting, whether or not its credible"
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Slumbering Behemoth Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:10:50am |
re: #532 nonic
Heh. Be sure to send him this authentic, completely real photo (with my regards, of course) as well.
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:12:28am |
re: #537 Karridine
JMV, it is of little import WHO she is, or whether she actually worked for Hillary and Obama... Her revelations dovetail with other observations, require no suspension of disbelief, call for no leap of faith and only clarify some things we've been seeing implied elsewhere.
If you choose to read the gray of her detailed report and declare "Incredible" then that's your choice.
I choose to declare it "Interesting, whether or not its credible"
Bur what is the point of a report describing events occurring w/in a campaign if it's not credible?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:14:54am |
re: #529 JustMyView
Which was tangential, at best...
But never mind me- I live in bizarro world where I find a presidential candidate from a major party hanging out with unrepentant domestic terrorists who were thwarted from placing nail bombs at an NCO's dance by their own idiocy/inability to handle explosives far more disturbing.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:16:11am |
re: #540 Fenway_Nation
Not to mention manifestos that strike an eerie familiarity with what has been done, and what is currently going on.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:19:14am |
re: #539 JustMyView
Bur what is the point of a report describing events occurring w/in a campaign if it's not credible?
Because what's TRULY incredible is that the American People would actually vote for Obama.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:22:25am |
re: #539 JustMyView
But what is the point of a report describing events occurring w/in a campaign if it's not credible?
EXACTLY! They're of little or no use to you, because YOU FIND THEM INCREDIBLE.
Those who find such reports credible when weighed against and with other such reports from more credible sources (VDHanson, Malkin, LGF) find these reports useful because they're another part of a large, multi-faceted reality out there, which occasionally requires certification but more often than not requires critical thinking on the part of observers, readers and commentators.
Principle here: What you see is what you get.
Your perceptual set determines ancillary or secondary value AFTER you 'see it'...
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:24:07am |
re: #534 littleoldlady
"Doesn't exist".
/Reality Takes a Holiday
I know what "urban legend" means. I just couldn't figure what he thought he meant by saying that Joe Wurzelbacher WAS one.
I have really had to bite my tongue with him, because I know he's going to vote for Obama. And he's a Jew, too, which drives me straight up the wall.
(Not that he's a Jew, but that a Jew would vote for The pro-palestinian-anti-Isral One.) (Grrr...)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:25:02am |
re: #539 JustMyView
Many sources those that have names, also dovetail neatly with what we hear in this community. A confirmation that's posted on another blog that has little connection with ours is nice. Is it credible? Who knows? Does it fit the facts that are trickling out? Yes, and that trickle of facts may soon become a flood.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:26:46am |
re: #545 nonic
How do you think I feel running into my co-religionists who are doing that?
/okay. I'll tell you. I FEEL SICK. :-(
The silver lining is that there's a whole bunch that I didn't have to convince at all.
/plus Bubbes on the Beach are a McCain voting block...
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:28:09am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:29:02am |
re: #549 JustMyView
I guess it would have to have the MSM stamp of approval right?
/still don't understand why you are still here
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jamie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:30:38am |
re: #545 nonic
I know what "urban legend" means. I just couldn't figure what he thought he meant by saying that Joe Wurzelbacher WAS one.
I have really had to bite my tongue with him, because I know he's going to vote for Obama. And he's a Jew, too, which drives me straight up the wall.
(Not that he's a Jew, but that a Jew would vote for The pro-palestinian-anti-Isral One.) (Grrr...)
One, it's "he's Jewish," not "he's a Jew."
Two, while I can appreciate the ideological basis for your frustration, please know that our religious beliefs do not require us to vote a certain way. I may be alone on this, but I reject the idea that my being Jewish requires me to vote either for this Democrat or that Republican.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:30:58am |
re: #549 JustMyView
re: #546 BlueCanuckOK, I'll concede the entertainment value of that report, but I wouldn't bet any money on the validity of what it says.
We wouldn't either, IF it did not correlate closely with events observed in real-time in the the real world!
Because it DOES, we care not what-her-name-is, or who wrote it, because it correlates closely with other known variables.
/but hey! I'm agreeing with you, it is of no use to you. Useless. Incredible.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:37:55am |
re: #551 jamie
One, it's "he's Jewish," not "he's a Jew."
Two, while I can appreciate the ideological basis for your frustration, please know that our religious beliefs do not require us to vote a certain way. I may be alone on this, but I reject the idea that my being Jewish requires me to vote either for this Democrat or that Republican.
One, I am "a Jew". Been "a Jew" for a long time, in fact.
/is there a problem with that?
Two, this is not an election between a Democrat and a Republican. This is an election between an antisemite and a supporter of Israel.
/probably why 76% of Jewish-Americans in Israel voted for McCain.
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:38:29am |
re: #548 littleoldlady
I have one son (out of five) who's going to vote for Obama. I have told the rest of them not to talk politics with him. At all. We're FAMILY. And it's more important that we stay friendly than ... well, than ANYTHING. Even who's president.
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:41:47am |
re: #550 BlueCanuck
I guess it would have to have the MSM stamp of approval right?
/still don't understand why you are still here
It's not about the MSM. It's about providing an account that can be verified.
As to why I'm here, sometimes I enjoy a good argument. Every now and then, I actually get someone to agree w/ me about something.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:42:16am |
Hmmm, a little off topic. The ID thread has been very quiet tonight for once. I like that kind of CHANGE.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:43:07am |
re: #555 JustMyView
Hey, a stopped clock is right at least twice a day. . . .
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:45:32am |
re: #449 Teacake!
Hey there night owls. If you don't mind I'd like to ask for advise.
Has anyone here experienced getting a cold shoulder from people for no apparent reason? If so, did you ask what was going on and if so, how do you approach people when they are obviously giving the cold shoulder?
I suspect that someone who is hostile toward me, who is very good friends with these 2 others might be spreading rumors or gossip which is totally fabricated. But if they are his friend and no longer will even say hello to me, how would you go about asking what's going on?
Teacake, there is no other way to do it other than speaking directly to your friend and asking calm, rational very direct questions. And if you get answers that affirm what you suspect, then you calmy, rationally and truthfully set the record straight.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:46:52am |
re: #558 littleoldlady
I wonder, after this election if the words hope and change will be viewed the same way as gay and comrade. :p
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:46:57am |
re: #556 BlueCanuck
Much more action on the Friday Open Thread.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:48:00am |
re: #554 nonic
I have one son (out of five) who's going to vote for Obama.
nonic, may I ask how old he is? The reason for asking is that I'm finding the younger voters are more inclined to support Obama than the older voters and I wonder if that is the case in your family.
A week ago my sister emailed me for help persuading a friend of her daughter's that Obama was not the right way to go (he's a big 'social justice guy). I spent several hours working up some docs for him to read - and recommended he should further his education by reading Sowell's Applied Economics so he could at least learn about Stage One Thinking, which he was obviously stuck in.
It may be too late to change is mind completely, but my sister emailed me yesterday that he's actually reading the book. *fingers crossed*
Oh, good morning everyone! I missed SNL lst nite - could not stay awake. Was it good? I'm hoping to see some clips on Fox this morning.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:48:32am |
re: #556 BlueCanuck
Hmmm, a little off topic. The ID thread has been very quiet tonight for once. I like that kind of CHANGE.
Me too. It's nice to relax and chill out with a DRINK.
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:50:28am |
re: #551 jamie
Please trust me that I meant no offense saying my friend is "a Jew." I just take that term to be a statement of fact, like I am "a Christian," someone else is "a Muslim," etc.
You are free, of course, as is my friend, to vote any way you like. But I don't see it being about religion, but politics. Voting should be about politics. What PUBLIC POLICIES does the voter favor?
I would HOPE that all clear-thinking people would believe that Israel has a RIGHT TO EXIST and that its inhabitants should not have to live in fear of their lives and the destruction of their homes and nation. But ESPECIALLY I am surprised when Jews and Christians do not feel that way.
It is that surprise -- and frustration -- that I was referring to. Not anyone's right to vote one way or another, and not based on his religion.
By my lights, Israel is Jewish and Christian HOLY LAND. Jews and Christians have ancient historical rights and scripture-documented traditional rights to the place. Muslims have merely been squatters for the last 1400 years. Yes, that entitles some individuals to some rights, but it doesn't make the Holy Land of the Jews and Christians into an Islamic "holy site."
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:50:28am |
re: #561 little blessing
Oh? is there trolls that need to be thrashed and tenderized?
/thats the R.S. thread right?
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:51:21am |
re: #560 BlueCanuck
I figure in another week or so kids won't be playing Cowboys and Indians anymore.
It'll be Racists and Socialists.
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Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:52:11am |
Pych(ot)ic Predictions for 2009:
1. President Obama will be forced to deny that he is the baby alien who was smuggled out of Area 51 in a Canadian spy's lunchbox in 1961.
2. Bill Ayers will publicly acknowledge that he ghost-writes Keith Obermann's scripts.
3. Gold futures will plummet on the news that 84% of the world's gold reserves are in fact crude fakes, mostly lead and depleted uranium bars and coin coated with a thin layer of actual gold.
4. Ron Paul
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jamie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:52:38am |
re: #537 Karridine
JMV, it is of little import WHO she is, or whether she actually worked for Hillary and Obama... Her revelations dovetail with other observations, require no suspension of disbelief, call for no leap of faith and only clarify some things we've been seeing implied elsewhere.
With all due respect, it requires an absurd leap of faith and it is of extreme import who she worked for, since that is at the center of her claims. It requires you to believe that a Hillary staffer switched to the Obama campaign after the primary, and rose so high in the ranks, that she joined the tiny handful of senior advisers that get to see the internal polling. Then, while staying in that circle which usually consists of the pollster, the media consultant, and the top four or five staffers, she had a Road to Damascus moment and decided to back McCain by releasing strategic information that shows an impending Obama loss.
Look, I don't blame you for wanting this to be credible and wanting it to be true. But to say it "require[s] no suspension of disbelief" is flat out wrong.
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:53:02am |
re: #565 BlueCanuck
yup, and the dingers are going nuts. Sorry I left you, Littleoldlady and Karridine to take care of the eeyores.
/been watch lgf spy too long.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:53:54am |
re: #567 Shiplord Kirel
Well in some universe you would be bang on.
/Missing World Daily News are we?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:55:42am |
re: #569 little blessing
No problem. Holding our own here I do believe.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:56:15am |
The Obama campaign, with its many incestuous links to "small 'c' communists" and Islamic fascists, could end up discrediting the entire Democratic Party -- if Americans realize they've been Suckered Big by the slickest demagogue since Bill Clinton. When ordinary people find out how extreme the America-hating inner circle of Democrats really are, many of the rank and file might just walk out in disgust. They certainly should. We'll soon see in states like Pennsylvania.
The Obama Bubble is entirely based on telephone polls to voters who've been told they are racist monsters if they don't vote for O. Under those circumstances people just don't talk freely. That's what intimidation did in the old Soviet Union, where it was impossible to find out the truth about the coming wheat crop because everybody lied. Polls mean nothing in this climate of media intimidation.
As a registered Democrat and a Jew, I agree.
/not to mention "media, sold public a pig-in-a-poke, people p*ssed"
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:57:10am |
re: #562 wahabicorridor
Ages of conservative sons voting Republican: 31, 26, 24, 22.
Age of liberal son voting Democrat: 28.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:58:27am |
re: #567 Shiplord Kirel
Pych(ot)ic Predictions for 2009:
1. President Obama will be forced to deny that he is the baby alien who was smuggled out of Area 51 in a Canadian spy's lunchbox in 1961.
2. Bill Ayers will publicly acknowledge that he ghost-writes Keith Obermann's scripts.
3. Gold futures will plummet on the news that 84% of the world's gold reserves are in fact crude fakes, mostly lead and depleted uranium bars and coin coated with a thin layer of actual gold.
4. Ron Paul
/it's a 5-parter...
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iceman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 2:59:51am |
Fascination reading here describing the tension in the radical left in 1969. And how the armed struggle, ie war was to proceed against the capitalist oppressors. And guess who is here? Our old friends, Ayers, Dohrn and Mike Klonsky, the guy who Barack shared a narrow office hallway with and funneled much money to while he was head of the Annenberg Challenge.
Jump to page 21 of the pdf or page 58 of the FBI file and settle in for a nostalgic trip back, back, back ...for the factional infighting during the 1969 convention of the SDS held in...Chicago, Ill.
Parent page listing all documents is here.
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jamie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:00:01am |
re: #553 littleoldlady
One, I am "a Jew". Been "a Jew" for a long time, in fact.
/is there a problem with that?
In theory, no. In practice--and I'm not suggesting this is at all representative of one single person here--when anti-Semites embark on their spiel, it's always the "he's a Jew" routine. Rightly or wrongly, IMO, the referring to one as "a Jew" has been taken over by bigots. Of course, there is room for disagreement on this, and I shouldn't have been as definitive in my response.
Two, this is not an election between a Democrat and a Republican. This is an election between an antisemite and a supporter of Israel.
That's just dumb, and cheapens both the fight against real anti-Semitism and the legitimate arguments against Obama's candidacy. He's as anti-Semitic as Joe Lieberman. I highly suggest this piece from the (lamentably shuttered) New York Sun.
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:00:26am |
re: #573 littleoldlady
{littleolelady}
I've spent the day on LGF. Witnessed the Saturday Massacre. Remember when Goddess came on a couple of days ago and mentioned how hard it is when 2 friends move on? Her comments were resonating in my mind today.
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Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:01:36am |
re: #570 BlueCanuck
Well in some universe you would be bang on.
/Missing World Daily News are we?
It has been resurrected as an online only pub but it can no longer use its cherished slogan, "The World's Only Reliable Newspaper."
I always preferred "The Most Respected Name in Major Media" and I may start lobbying them to adopt it.
Highlights you won't see in lesser media:
# OCTOBER SURPRISE: ALIEN ENDORSES MCCAIN!
# MICHELLE LOVES OBATMA
# INDIA TO CATER ALIEN SUMMIT
# SARAH PALIN HEALS CHILD
# 9-FT-TALL CYCLOPS JOINS NBA
# MCCAIN EBAYS GOVERNMENT SECRETS
#PALIN BAGS A BIGFOOT
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:02:21am |
re: #574 nonic
Ages of conservative sons voting Republican: 31, 26, 24, 22.
Age of liberal son voting Democrat: 28.
Well, there goes that idea...
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jamie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:03:27am |
re: #564 nonic
Please trust me that I meant no offense saying my friend is "a Jew." I just take that term to be a statement of fact, like I am "a Christian," someone else is "a Muslim," etc.
None taken, and I should have taken better care to note that this was just my opinion and that I was sure you meant nothing by it. I just tend to chafe at suggestions that I need to vote this way or that way simply because I wear a kippah in my house of worship. A good friend of mine is black, gay, and a huge McCain supporter. It saddens me when he gets a predictable ration of shit from people who believe he owes them anything. I was similarly disappointed to discuss the election in passing with a member of our synagogue who concluded that he could never consider voting for a guy whose middle name was Hussein.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:04:41am |
re: #574 nonic
Well, each family must have a blacksocialist sheep in it. At least it's not a felony.
/yet. . . .
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:11:56am |
re: #580 wahabicorridor
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. He's always been the one who was a little bit different. So be it. He went to college and currently lives and works in Boston. Maybe that's it.
The rest of them went to / go to school and/or work in New Jersey.
Among daughters in law... the Boston son is married to a Virginia girl. I don't KNOW, but I would guess she's also voting dem. The oldest son is married to an immigrant from Lithuania. She says she didn't grow up under Communism to vote for a Socialist now! LOL The second oldest son is engaged to a Korean girl, born in SK, grew up here. My son says she favors Obama, but he says that's because she has a "soft" (I think he means "bleeding") heart. But he's extremely conservative -- he'll probably bring her over to the light eventually.
Our family, probable votes:
Rep 4 sons, 1 DIL, me, and my ex (most likely) = 7
Dem 1 son, 2 DIL = 3
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:14:46am |
re: #577 jamie
In theory, no. In practice--and I'm not suggesting this is at all representative of one single person here--when anti-Semites embark on their spiel, it's always the "he's a Jew" routine. Rightly or wrongly, IMO, the referring to one as "a Jew" has been taken over by bigots. Of course, there is room for disagreement on this, and I shouldn't have been as definitive in my response.
Yes, I suppose it's hard to do an antisemitic spiel without mentioning "Jews" or even that "He's Jewish". This is a new one on me!
That's just dumb, and cheapens both the fight against real anti-Semitism and the legitimate arguments against Obama's candidacy. He's as anti-Semitic as Joe Lieberman. I highly suggest this piece from the (lamentably shuttered) New York Sun.
What's on the tape that the LA Times refuses to release, jamie? Do you expect to see Obama at a Jew-bashing fest saying, "Now, now guys! Stop beating up on Jews!"
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:14:46am |
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:18:31am |
G'day Everyone!
Take good care of yourselves and your loved ones. Nonic is right. The election will (eventually) end and your family will still be there.
Too many rash things have been said today due to passion and emotion. I've watched comments get deleted and posters banned. By all means continue debating and thrashing out the issues but think before posting. Is the ugliness warranted?
/my words will probably come back to bite me in the behind the day I get "ugly"!
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:18:35am |
re: #583 nonic
a Korean girl, born in SK, grew up here
Over the years I've come to know many SKs who grew up in SK - and believe me, they ain't voting Obama. One friend, Kwong, listened to some Obama garbage from her son, Jason, who will be voting for the first time. She told him she'd cut off his tuition! She told me "Look what I've done - came to America so my children could have a better life - and I've raised a MORON who appreciates NOTHING!"
It was kinda funny, actually.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:21:56am |
re: #587 little blessing
G'night little blessing, enjoy the rest of your day.
/can't see you getting "ugly". :)
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:22:02am |
re: #588 wahabicorridor
Over the years I've come to know many SKs who grew up in SK - and believe me, they ain't voting Obama. One friend, Kwong, listened to some Obama garbage from her son, Jason, who will be voting for the first time. She told him she'd cut off his tuition! She told me "Look what I've done - came to America so my children could have a better life - and I've raised a MORON who appreciates NOTHING!"
It was kinda funny, actually.
wahabi! :-)
My daughter tells me that a couple of weeks ago her campus was exuberantly OBAMA! Now she says it's realll quiet.
I figured that some of those kids got calls from mom and dad explaining where their tuition money comes from. ;-)
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Scion9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:23:31am |
re: #577 jamie
Believing that Obama is anything but opposed to Israel definitely takes a leap of faith. He strikes me to be about as pro-Israel is Rashid Khalidi or Edward Said.
It may seem in bad faith, but the face that the media, academia et al has put on people like Khalidi and many others as being 'moderates' when they are anything but has created an air of mistrust.
If people like Khalidi are moderates, and CAIR is respectable, then the same people painting Obama as pro-Israel or even a moderate isn't going to buy the man a lot of credentials from where I stand.
He already has stated that he believes that the Israeli's have a viable peace partner in the Palestinian Arabs, and that he intends to be involved in the process. Even if he is pro-Israel, he is at best a well-meaning but ultimately dangerous fool.
On the lighter side of paranoia, Communists strike out against fictional treason.
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:23:56am |
Come to think of it, I guess the Lithuanian DIL can't vote. She's not a citizen. I think she has a green card, but they don't vote, right?
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:25:15am |
re: #592 nonic
Come to think of it, I guess the Lithuanian DIL can't vote. She's not a citizen. I think she has a green card, but they don't vote, right?
Not unless they're one of Obama's relatives...
;-)
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:25:55am |
re: #590 littleoldlady
My mom suggested that perhaps life would be easier if I moved back to America under an Obama presidency, as "we'd be starting from the bottom."
I would unfortunately be inclined to agree. I only have about $3,000 across all my accounts and there's no way I'd be able to complete my education in the States unless I worked 'till I'm 30. Art school scholarships are fairly scarce for my major...and even worse, if I finish my Bachelor's here, the well will be bone dry for Graduate Studies, made worse with higher course costs.
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whiterasta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:27:06am |
re: #593 littleoldlady
Do any of Obama's relatives have a Green Card?
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:27:14am |
re: #586 littleoldlady
In Brief:
Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch has accepted VB back on his blogroll. We all know that Charles has found them to be far right,Neo-nazis etc. As a result Charles has removed Jihad Watch from LGF's blogroll and is understandably upset with the man whom he once considered a good friend.
In the meantime, we had all kinds of people post derogatory comments about Charles or more conspiracy theories about Obama (especially the ones Charles has continuously said not to post) which got them deleted or banned.
On top of all that we had and ID/Evolution thread which seems to bring out some outlandish comments.
Me thinks it has been a long day but I still love LGF!
re: #589 BlueCanuck
What you don't know can't hurt you!
/Why do you think I like Red so much?
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:27:19am |
re: #594 laZardo
laZardo! :-)
You should do it. In a few years we'll all be sitting with you...on the bottom.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:28:28am |
re: #590 littleoldlady
wahabi! :-)
My daughter tells me that a couple of weeks ago her campus was exuberantly OBAMA! Now she says it's realll quiet.
I figured that some of those kids got calls from mom and dad explaining where their tuition money comes from. ;-)
As someone I greatly admire often says YOU BETCHA!
hey, do you know what I learned yesterday - and I don't know why I hadn't figured this out sooner - goddess is in western Penna - and she knows Uniontown! And Hopwood too!
Ahh, we Pennsylvania girls...
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:28:33am |
Good Morning LGF.
Hmmm, I wonder where these tire marks on my ass came from. LOL.
Got faith in those PUMAs and independents?
Looks like I'll have to be a Believer, at least until Tuesday night!
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:28:33am |
re: #594 laZardo
On the other hand, with Professors like Ayers you are better off without that education!
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:29:12am |
re: #588 wahabicorridor
My daughter-in-law is Korean. She and another Korean girl were adopted and brought back to the USA in the 70's. She is a girly girl and my son loves her to death. She is a high school math teacher an voting McCain.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:29:32am |
re: #595 whiterasta
Come to think of it...all I know about is the illegal immigrant aunt in Boston and the half-brother living in a box in Kenya.
Oh, and the communist cousin whose followers burned down a church full of people.
/man. I thought MY family was dysfunctional! ;-)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:29:58am |
re: #596 little blessing
re: #589 BlueCanuckWhat you don't know can't hurt you!
/Why do you think I like Red so much?
The same reasons I do? He grows on you, and deep down you know he will back you against all that would stand against you if he believes in you.
/he may be experienced but his heart is in the right place
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:30:04am |
re: #600 little blessing
If I took Political Science or any Socially-related major. (;
Unfortunately, I'm looking toward Transportation Design, which I am told by The One would probably require me to spread the wealth around if I do make it.
/great, I get fucked either way... D:
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:30:32am |
re: #596 little blessing
WOW. This election isn't doing much for MY nerves.
/and I know I'm not alone...
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:30:42am |
re: #588 wahabicorridor
LOL !
She's a wonderful girl. Very smart (getting an advanced degree in bio-medical engineering) and sweet as can be. But her parents, who both have their own businesses (hard workers) were so against her dating a non-Korean boy that the kids had to wait 4 years before my son could even meet the parents. I ASSUME we'll be invited to the wedding, but I'm not buying my dress ahead of time! LOL
And it's funny, because my son is an accountant and finishing law school. They couldn't FIND a son in law with better prospects. :-)
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:30:52am |
re: #594 laZardo
My mom suggested that perhaps life would be easier if I moved back to America under an Obama presidency, as "we'd be starting from the bottom."
Ok, you lost me. How is 'starting from the bottom' a good thing?
And where are you living now, if you don't mind my asking?
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:31:44am |
re: #598 wahabicorridor
Probably knows Uniontown better than I do! :-)
/last time I was there I was 11 years old
//and I had a vicious case of strep throat so I didn't enjoy myself much
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little blessing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:31:55am |
re: #604 laZardo
If it happens, you won't be alone.
Give my regards to the US Embassy down there. Thanks for all the help with Little One's SSN!
/All our stuff gets processed in Manila
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:32:41am |
re: #608 wahabicorridor
Still living and taking college in Manila. I'd really like to move back to the States before I finish my Bachelor's, so I can at least tap into the financial aid well a bit. I'd be too old to get a summer job (since they usually go for freshly-graduated high schoolers), so I've got a rather narrow window of opportunity.
By "starting from the bottom" I mean me and my mom will have to bunk with relatives until we can get the resources to bring the rest of my family (including 2 American citizen younger brothers) back over. I'm still going through the petitioning process, since neither of my parents are American citizens or permanent residents.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:33:43am |
re: #604 laZardo
If I took Political Science or any Socially-related major. (;
Unfortunately, I'm looking toward Transportation Design, which I am told by The One would probably require me to spread the wealth around if I do make it.
/great, I get fucked either way... D:
Hey! You'd be one of the few of us with a JOB.
/sure, a government job, but a job nonetheless...
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:35:34am |
re: #607 nonic
I hired a really brilliant Korean guy, Yong. His family came here when he was about 11. His father deserted the family 3 years later and he supported his mother. He was absolutely devoted to her as you can imagine. But dating drove him nuts. His mother wanted a Korean girl because tradition in that culture mandates his mom would be taken care of. But Yong could not find a Korean girl in America with those values. I left the company years ago and never learned how he worked it out - if he did.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:37:53am |
re: #611 laZardo
Ah, ok, got it. jeez, rock, meet hard place.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:38:12am |
re: #612 littleoldlady
Probably a job with a mandatory-unionized auto company. Meaning I'd fear 'card check day.'
Anyhoo, dinner. BBL.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:39:07am |
re: #614 wahabicorridor
The cherry on the cake is that I'm most likely to wind up with relatives in Seattle if I move back.
/I know I can do it, I know I can do it...I know I can do it...
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bp sf Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:40:28am |
Good Morning!
It is going to be a wonderful day.
NY Giants game @ 4:15 is the start of my 3 day drunk binge; ending in a Victory Celebration early Wednesday.
This one will be super sweet. L'chaim!
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:41:41am |
re: #602 littleoldlady
There's another brother or cousin (I think brother) living on the dole in London.
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Scion9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:42:21am |
re: #602 littleoldlady
Oh, and the communist cousin whose followers burned down a church full of people.
They aren't cousings. Odinga and Obama Sr. were from the same 'tribe' but they aren't related.
And LaZardo, don't be so sure that Obama is going to help out those on 'the bottom' so much. You don't need to go deep into economics, but if Obama starts making college or anything else 'more affordable' by way of tax credits and government scholarships, it will only promote spending in those areas to gain the new benefits. Demand will increase for a limited and selective commodity, meaning the price will go up.
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:43:17am |
re: #620 nonic
Doesn't everyone live on the dole in London? Except Madonna, of course.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:43:19am |
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:47:14am |
re: #613 wahabicorridor
Yeah, my son told me that his fiancee has promised her mother she can live with them in her old age. I said that's fine -- she and I can share a room and keep each other company. :-)
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bp sf Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:47:19am |
#623
Good Morning, littleoldlady!
NJ going GOP is unlikely. I ask for the R ballot at the polling place (Senior Center); it's like an old EF Hutton commercial...the room goes silent and I get those glaring looks!
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:47:21am |
re: #621 Scion9
I thought on the tape I saw Odinga himself said they were "cousins"? Maybe it's like saying "lansmen"?
/I sit corrected then. :-)
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Jamie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:47:45am |
re: #591 Scion9
He already has stated that he believes that the Israeli's have a viable peace partner in the Palestinian Arabs, and that he intends to be involved in the process. Even if he is pro-Israel, he is at best a well-meaning but ultimately dangerous fool.
His voting record leads me to question the idea of him being anti-Israel--he has never run afoul of the pro-Israel community in the Senate. As for the peace process, his comments aren't that different from President Bush, who I think we can agree is quite pro-Israel. In any event, I was referring to the idea that Obama is anti-Semitic, which is, in my opinion, absurd. Anti-Israel is a matter of interpretation, I suppose.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:48:55am |
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:49:24am |
re: #626 bp sf
#623
Good Morning, littleoldlady!
NJ going GOP is unlikely. I ask for the R ballot at the polling place (Senior Center); it's like an old EF Hutton commercial...the room goes silent and I get those glaring looks!
Not out here in Morris County. And I used to live in Warren County where I don't think they know what a Democrat IS.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:50:46am |
re: #627 littleoldlady
/I sit corrected then. :-)
I thought you were sitting already.
/duck and covers.
//Had to, red isn't here. ;)
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:51:35am |
At this time of day I can get all the news I need from the weather report...especially if it's a good one!
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:54:45am |
The newspapers have arrived, Hubby and the Fat Beagle have arisen and daylight impends.
I'm outta here
/is 'impends' a word?
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:55:24am |
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Panhandler Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:56:52am |
As the sun begins to peek over the horizon on the Gulf Coast I think of a quote by Theodore Roosevelt -
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
Theodore Roosevelt
Already voted, had to show ID, Florida uses a paper trail electronic now. By the way, the Panhandle is McCain country.
Didn't check, did the time change give us 2 Fruitcup issues? Is there any left because I already finished the Halloween leftovers.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:57:01am |
re: #635 littleoldlady
*snicker* Had to think there a minute didn't you? *evil grin*
/always make them second guess themselves. . . .
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:57:06am |
re: #619 tappin52
What's crazy is I still consider my birth city as "home."
Especially since my real (nick)name is...
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:57:08am |
Rustler back in the saddle just got some time to peruse the new comments since i started around the house and hah. You all(RW anyway) thought i was being overly optimistic to think McCain had a shot in Cali
: P
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:58:19am |
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 3:58:32am |
Mornin' & Howdy, Lizaaarrrds!
I am still Joe
/do you think they'll buy the forced exuberance and elation?
/no
/should I link it?
/no
/i'm gonna to anyway
[Link: townhall.com...]
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:00:24am |
re: #636 Panhandler
Panhandler! :-)
Yes. We had international fruitcup at 4 and East Coast fruitcup at (what they're trying to convince us is) 5 am.
/you'll have to find it yourself, tho...
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Panhandler Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:00:32am |
re: #640 BlueCanuck
My "trickle up" economic package if The One gets in.
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nonic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:01:18am |
Well, folks, y'all have a good day. See ya another time. :-)
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:01:23am |
re: #503 arizona9
I wonder how much of that Affleck wrote. LOL!
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:02:28am |
re: #621 Scion9
They aren't cousings. Odinga and Obama Sr. were from the same 'tribe' but they aren't related.
And LaZardo, don't be so sure that Obama is going to help out those on 'the bottom' so much. You don't need to go deep into economics, but if Obama starts making college or anything else 'more affordable' by way of tax credits and government scholarships, it will only promote spending in those areas to gain the new benefits. Demand will increase for a limited and selective commodity, meaning the price will go up.
Meaning...even higher tuition!? So...unless I can catch up in the first two years or so...
/excuse me while I pass out
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:03:35am |
Too bad SNL didn't have a better actor last night, a whole bunch of people could have done a better "bathtub boy". That being said, it was funny.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:05:06am |
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSA
Didj'all miss me?
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:06:07am |
Popping smoke I'm out tho be safe all and keep the TV's off till Nov 4th lol just gonna get depressed otherwise
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:06:22am |
I did like the QVC bit though. John McCain was very funny. My favorite was the ten "Town Hall Commemorative Plates". Thought that was funny.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:06:48am |
re: #650 Occasional Reader
Enjoyed the weather report from Argentina.
Glad you got back here in time to vote.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:06:54am |
re: #650 Occasional Reader
Howdy, Comrade!
/man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, bleccht
//then don't say it
/gotta get used to sometime
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:08:04am |
re: #654 Dar ul Harb
Enjoyed the weather report from Argentina.
Glad you got back here in time to vote.
Vote? Is there some sort of election coming up? Oh, you mean American Idol.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:08:52am |
re: #656 Occasional Reader
Screw that. America's Next Top Hooker Model will change our destinies as we know it.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:09:04am |
re: #651 laZardo
/and sees what you did there
What I did where?
It was already like that when I got here. Whatever it is. I swear it.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:10:02am |
re: #658 Occasional Reader
It might be after 20 January 2009.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:10:05am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:10:19am |
Later nonic, rancher's son. Welcome OR FBV.
/looks like the day shift is waking from the long slumber.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:10:53am |
Occasional Reader! :-)
WE MISSED YOU! So glad you're back! :-)
Where were you?
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:11:32am |
re: #654 Dar ul Harb
Enjoyed the weather report from Argentina.
Of the weather, I cannot complain. It was spectacular.
Buenos Aires should be a great city. But it needs a thorough scrubbing.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:12:37am |
re: #661 Dar ul Harb
Fundamental Redistributive Change™.
I will spread my wealth when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
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Geepers Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:13:11am |
Michelle & Barack insist police remain out of sight, out of mind
...members of the Calhoun County Sheriff’s Department, Michigan State Police, (me included) and other local agencies inside Calhoun County
are working with Secret Service in the security of Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama’s bus arrives in Battle Creek and pulls into the stadium area. Before Mr. Obama exits the bus, he has the Secret Service get off and tell all Law Enforcement personnel in uniform that they now have to stand behind the bus so Mr. Obama is not seen with anyone in a Law Enforcement uniform before he gets off or while in the public view....everyone from Michigan State Police, Sheriff’s Deptments and other agencies look at each other for a brief second, go and stand behind the bus out of sight so Mr. Obama does not have to see, or been seen with, what to him is `undesirables’ since he refuses to been seen or even acknowledge Military or Law Enforcement personnel in uniform. And he wants to be our commander-in- chief!
Billy Ayres must be proud.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:13:54am |
re: #662 BlueCanuck
Got an extra hour of nightmares last night. Whew. Glad to wake up in the light though.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:14:24am |
re: #660 Occasional Reader
No, but as long as I don't see any of Charlie's Angels on it, judges OR competitors, American society should weather this crisis.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:14:43am |
re: #666 Dar ul Harb
Riding the pampas with the vaqueros?
Bitter vaqueros, who cling to their armas and religión.
But no, I was with the city slickers in this visit.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:14:48am |
re: #665 Occasional Reader
I will spread my wealth when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
What, that's not Change You Can Believe In™?
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:16:27am |
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:16:45am |
re: #665 Occasional Reader
I will spread my wealth when they pry it
from my cold, dead hands.between my legs.
/painfully fix'd
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Scion9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:17:01am |
re: #667 Geepers
That was debunked. It was from a chain email by a "Jason Kern", and the MSP came out saying that there is no such officer by that name working for them.
[Link: www.michigan.gov...]
According to the link, it isn't even a case of 'fake but accurate'.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:17:14am |
re: #667 Geepers
Whoa. I am just shocked! Shocked I tells ya!
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:17:47am |
re: #666 Dar ul Harb
Riding the pampas
I don't know about riding the pampas, but I wouldn't turn down an offer to ride Pampita.
[google it if you must]
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:18:15am |
re: #667 Geepers
Don't worry, Geepers, when he gets in, he won't need now stickin' law enforcement, he have a "National Civilian Security Force"
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:19:02am |
re: #677 Occasional Reader
I don't know about riding the pampas, but I wouldn't turn down an offer to ride Pampita.
[google it if you must]
Well, that woke me up!
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:19:14am |
On my flight back, I did have an interesting conversation with a conservative European who finds Obama scary. So there are still sane Europeans, apparently... at least a few.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:19:27am |
re: #678 KB55
Don't worry, Geepers, when he gets in, he won't need now stickin' law enforcement, he have a "National Civilian Security Force"
Can we please just call the NCSF, "The Thought Police"? That's what they'll be used for.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:20:24am |
Good morning/afternoon/evening/night, Lizard Nation!
I hope you all enjoyed your extra hour in bed today!
On a more sombre note, here is the link to a story in today's Sunday Edition of The Times, London.
This shows in exemplary fashion why Charles, the Lizard King, was right to ban any discussion of it from lgf!
Now I'll do some trhead diving ...
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:20:33am |
Gotta get ready for Church. Gonna pray real hard.
Pastor is a Lib though. But doesn't talk about it at church. I like it that way.
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:21:26am |
re: #667 Geepers
I read that a day or two ago. I'm amazed that Obama's bus wheels even touch the ground anymore.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:22:52am |
Well, the Harbitas are up, so time to make breakfast.
Hasta luego...
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:24:10am |
re: #685 Dar ul Harb
Well, the Harbitas are up, so time to make breakfast.
Hasta luego...
Harbitas? Is that family?
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:24:11am |
re: #681 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That, and tracking down all the guns and relieving the "other" law enforcement of theirs. Can anyone say, SS?
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:24:19am |
re: #678 KB55
Don't worry, Geepers, when he gets in, he won't need now stickin' law enforcement, he have a "National Civilian Security Force"
I still think this was a throwaway quote from Barry, and he didn't really know what the heck he was saying. He has made no further efforts to flesh out anything remotely like a "national civilian security force", AFAIK, and it's not the sort of thing you could do without anyone noticing.
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:25:47am |
People, tune into MSNBC right now. Joe S is ripping Obama's most recent, I-Hate-America comment.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:26:04am |
re: #682 yma o hyd
Wait...so the Obama-Ayers points are no longer valid?
/state of confusion, sorry...
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:26:41am |
re: #687 KB55
That, and tracking down all the guns and relieving the "other" law enforcement of theirs. Can anyone say, SS?
Oh, come one. Look, do I think an Obama adminstation would try to do end runs around the 2nd Amendment? Yes, just like Clinton did. But Obama "SS" stripping guns from cops? Please.
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:26:59am |
re: #688 Occasional Reader
Since he has mentioned it more than once, I doubt it is a throw away issue. More likely, he is keeping it less discussed until he tries to implement it. Then he can claim to have been up front about it.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:27:02am |
re: #688 Occasional Reader
With Congress and PelosiReid, why do you think he's going to worry about anyone "noticing"? They're going to consider this election as a referendum on the liberal/social need for change.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:27:21am |
re: #689 arizona9
People, tune into MSNBC right now
I'd rather stick toothpicks into my eyes.
Good day, ALL!™
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:28:10am |
re: #690 laZardo
Wait...so the Obama-Ayers points are no longer valid?
/state of confusion, sorry...
The article only specifically purports to debunk the "Ayers ghostwrote Dreams From My Father" point. But without question Obama and Ayers have had other links, for a very long time. Oh, but Barry says he's "just some guy in my neighborhood", so I guess it's all okay!
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:29:05am |
re: #692 tappin52
Since he has mentioned it more than once,
I am only aware of the one quote, in his speech from (?) July about "volunteerism" (or national service or whatever you want to call it).
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:29:14am |
re: #694 littleoldlady
Bye littleoldlady, see you tomorrow.
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:30:20am |
re: #694 littleoldlady
I'd rather stick toothpicks into my eyes.
Good day, ALL!™
I hear you but it is so rare to hear Obama ripped being for the smug, arrogant ass that he is. Tucker is also on the panel.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:30:44am |
Gah, I'm hearing The One's voice on airport t.v. monitors (perpetually tuned to CNN, naturally)... I'm sick of his voice already. Let's not have to listen to it for the next four years. MCCAIN/PALIN.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:30:50am |
re: #691 Occasional Reader
OR, I am NOT a conspriatorial guy, never have been, but I have listened to all of "nuanced" satements and as tappin points out, it ain't just once, and I think these guys let slip what's really coming because the WIN is inevitable--just to point, Richardson's $120K on taxes--oops, I wasn't s'pose to say that. Where did it come form then. BTW, Richardson should've been BHO's VP pick, not Biden.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:31:25am |
re: #689 arizona9
People, tune into MSNBC right now. Joe S is ripping Obama's most recent, I-Hate-America comment.
What was Obama's comment? (Been a little out of it news-wise here.)
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:31:58am |
re: #699 Occasional Reader
Gah, I'm hearing The One's voice on airport t.v. monitors (perpetually tuned to CNN, naturally)... I'm sick of his voice already. Let's not have to listen to it for the next four years. MCCAIN/PALIN.
I was talking about that very thing earlier. I hate the man's voice. Every time he comes on, I'm lunging for the remote.
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:32:11am |
re: #696 Occasional Reader
I am only aware of the one quote, in his speech from (?) July about "volunteerism" (or national service or whatever you want to call it).
He mentioned it again in his infomercial.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:32:49am |
re: #696 Occasional Reader
Then you didn't hear this in June--this has nothing to do with his "Voluteerism"
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:33:06am |
re: #700 KB55
and as tappin points out, it ain't just once,
If there was a reference to the National Civilian Security Force idea in anything other than that one speech, please point me to it. I am not aware of any other reference. He has blathered about "volunteerism" a lot, but that's hardly the same thing as "armed goons with a half-trillion dollar budget".
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whiterasta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:33:33am |
re: #699 Occasional Reader
There is a reader here who carries a universal remote with him and then changes the channel from CNN to Fox...
BWWWAAAHAHAHAH!
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yochanan Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:34:46am |
what to expect from a obama government
will it be an incompetent liberal government like jimmy carter or will it be a euro socialist state or maybe worse? FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW. and I don't want any of it.
On the military front will the Iranian islmo fascists try to finish the job that they started under the incompetent govt of jimmy carter?
IRAN WITH A NUKE IS MY BIGGEST WORRY WHO EVER IS PRESIDENT AT LEAST JOHN MCCAIN KNOWS WHAT A MILITARY IS FOR AND WOULD MAKE A GREAT COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:34:47am |
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:35:18am |
re: #705 KB55
Then you didn't hear this in June--this has nothing to do with his "Voluteerism"
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Um... no, that's the speech I was referring to. AFAIK, the only time he has specifically mentioned that idea. If it was specifically referred to in the infomercial (which I did not watch), I stand corrected. But while I worry about plenty of things about a potentional Obama administration, an armed "SS" isn't one of them. The American people would not stand for it. It would never get off the ground.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:36:25am |
re: #709 BlueCanuck
Oh that is just plain evil.
/wonder how he got it past security.
Security wouldn't care. It's not a weapon or a potential weapon. Ooh, but I like the idea...!
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:37:42am |
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:38:00am |
re: #710 Occasional Reader
I would say the same, OR, and I hope you're right--this guy is Svengali, so many would believe it was necessary to instill peace among us.
I pray thta you are right, but blind lemmings typically don't care which cliff they run off of.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:39:46am |
re: #708 yochanan.
IRAN WITH A NUKE IS MY BIGGEST WORRY
Bush would redeem a lot of his mistakes in my eyes if he delivered ordnance onto Natanz, Buseshr et al before leaving office.
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ibmkeyboard Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:40:21am |
Bambi has now stated that he will change the world.
I always wondered if God might be a black man?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:40:27am |
re: #688 Occasional Reader
I still think this was a throwaway quote from Barry, and he didn't really know what the heck he was saying. He has made no further efforts to flesh out anything remotely like a "national civilian security force", AFAIK, and it's not the sort of thing you could do without anyone noticing.
[Link: www.investors.com...]
[Link: www.publicallies.org...]
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:40:40am |
He said something to the effect that because Iowa voted for him in the primary-marking his comeback- it vindicated his faith in the country. Cause you know, if we aren't validating his awesomeness, we suck. It's a statement oh so similar to his wifey's about not being proud and all that. Joe was beside himself. Lib toadie Carney jumped in to try and explain away His Arrogance's true meaning but Joe was having none of it.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:41:11am |
re: #714 KB55
I would say the same, OR, and I hope you're right--this guy is Svengali, so many would believe it was necessary to instill peace among us.
I pray thta you are right, but blind lemmings typically don't care which cliff they run off of.
So do I get extra points for inventing the word "potentional"?
(overnight flight, no sleep... excuse!)
Out for now. Take care, y'all.
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:42:12am |
Jesus, even the editor of Newsweek is calling the statement arrogant. But Mark thinks that arrogance and ego is a good thing. Jesus.
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yochanan Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:42:41am |
IOWA did not vote for him democrats in iowa voted for him.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:43:18am |
re: #719 Occasional Reader
Sweet dreams, OR, may they all be about large breasted women. (Princess Bride, before anyone jumps on me)
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:44:53am |
They are still discussing it right now on MSNBC. Hold your nose and mute the troll Shrummy, but several on the panel are ripping Obama.
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:44:57am |
Stole this from the links (ht Spellcheck), highly recommended:
OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY
Here's the LGF link page if you want to leave a comment:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/link/104313
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:46:19am |
re: #715 Occasional Reader
I'm reminded of "Bloody T-Shirt Guy" for some reason. A long time ago someone suggested he should be the new "Che face".
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NC State of Mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:46:30am |
What in the bloody hell happened to Peggy Noonan?
The race, the case, a hope for grace.
The Wall Street Journal: October 29, 2008The case for Barack Obama, in broad strokes:
He has within him the possibility to change the direction and tone of American foreign policy, which need changing; his rise will serve as a practical rebuke to the past five years, which need rebuking; his victory would provide a fresh start in a nation in which a fresh start would come as a national relief. He climbed steep stairs, born off the continent with no father to guide, a dreamy, abandoning mother, mixed race, no connections. He rose with guts and gifts. He is steady, calm, and, in terms of the execution of his political ascent, still the primary and almost only area in which his executive abilities can be discerned, he shows good judgment in terms of whom to hire and consult, what steps to take and moves to make. We witnessed from him this year something unique in American politics: He took down a political machine without raising his voice.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:48:35am |
She wen with Chris re: #726 NC State of Mind
She went with Chris (my dad was the real Conservative) Buckley and all the other elite Repubs into the KoolAde jungle.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:50:26am |
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ibmkeyboard Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:50:37am |
re: #726 NC State of Mind
We witnessed from him this year something unique in American politics: He took down a political machine without raising his voice.
He had nothing to do with the Clinton machine.
We the people did that.
And his failure to pick Hillary shows his arrogance.
If not for the market meltdowns,
he would not even be close.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:52:47am |
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:54:00am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The NYT runs this headline without any sense of history, irony - or what it actually means. There's a reason that Obama has to win states that President Bush won four years ago.
Bush won the election 4 years ago.
Kerry didn't.
That simple, seemingly insignificant fact to the NYT undermines the whole rationale for the story. Bush grabbed enough states with enough electoral votes to win. If Obama simply held on to the states that Kerry won in 2004 and nothing more, Obama loses.
Obama HAS to campaign in states that Bush won in 2004. It also means that McCain has to defend states that Bush won in 2004, because if he holds those states, HE wins.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:54:07am |
re: #730 BlueCanuckOops, sorry--you are correct; my apologies. But one goes with the other doesn't it?
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:54:14am |
Anyone seen Cornell West on CNN.
The guy is totally wired - I can't believe he is for real.
If he doesn't convince the PUMAs and indies to vote McCain then noone can./
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:56:31am |
re: #733 Spare O'Lake
Anyone seen Cornell West on CNN.
The guy is totally wired - I can't believe he is for real.
If he doesn't convince the PUMAs and indies to vote McCain then noone can./
Too much Kenyan roast?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:57:51am |
re: #732 KB55
Hmmm, you are right there. But I can be a bit of a stickler for quotes. ;)
/especially since I mangle a few myself.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:59:13am |
re: #735 His Royal Highness
Shame on us!
I didn't sign up and start reading this site to be a soldier in an anti-intellectual party with no ideas for the future. I thought conservatism has ideas for making this country a better place, not simply re-stating failed ideas of the past. I certainly do not agree (and neither does Charles it seems) with party policy which states that the earth is less than 6000 years old. What, in G-d's name, has happened to our party?
Where pray tell does it state that in the RNC platform?
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NC State of Mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 4:59:16am |
re: #733 Spare O'Lake
Anyone seen Cornell West on CNN.
The guy is totally wired - I can't believe he is for real.
If he doesn't convince the PUMAs and indies to vote McCain then noone can./
Heh. Cornell West. I've seen him on Real Time with Bill Maher twice, most recently this past Friday night. He certainly is a weird, jumpy character, that's for sure.
On a side note, John Legend was on the panel with Cornell West and he was challenged that we do not need to redistribute wealth. He replied, that's the whole purpose of taxes, to redistribute money, that's why they were created.
John Legend and Cornell West together, why the hell did I watch that?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:00:57am |
re: #735 His Royal Highness
Registered since: Dec 3, 2007 at 2:43 pm
No. of comments posted: 16
No. of links posted: 0
/*sniff sniff*
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ibmkeyboard Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:01:19am |
From a newspaper out west.
This paper has had a longstanding policy of not publishing letters-to-the-editor addressing political contests the day before and day of the election.
We are applying that same moratorium to comments on election stories beginning Sunday. We will apply the moratorium on older stories as well.
The rationale for the policy is two-fold: Give voters time to cool down and reflect on the choices they will make on Tuesday; and, avoid playing a role in influencing voters by posting possible false, last-minute attacks on candidates.
Thanks for your participation and don't forget to vote.
/interesting
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:01:40am |
re: #738 NC State of Mind
Heh. Cornell West. I've seen him on Real Time with Bill Maher twice, most recently this past Friday night. He certainly is a weird, jumpy character, that's for sure.
On a side note, John Legend was on the panel with Cornell West and he was challenged that we do not need to redistribute wealth. He replied, that's the whole purpose of taxes, to redistribute money, that's why they were created.
John Legend and Cornell West together, why the hell did I watch that?
I thought taxes were instituted to do things that individuals could not do alone, such as building infrastructure and supporting the modern military.
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scion9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:02:14am |
re: #735 His Royal Highness
For the record while I actually do like some of your music, I have never purchased one of your albums, nor do I support your political ideology/methods, Moby.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:02:15am |
re: #740 BlueCanuck
Registered since: Dec 3, 2007 at 2:43 pm
No. of comments posted: 16
No. of links posted: 0
/*sniff sniff*
More like a Moby, trying to out-conservative us?
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:02:26am |
re: #737 BlueCanuck
Too many members of our party state as this policy ( like Sarah Palin) or a variant of it. Doing so is unacceptable to me - it makes us look absurd and entirely bereft of new ideas. I cannot understand why this has come about - we used to be the party of new and fresh ideas and now we're mouthing the words of holy rollers. What has happened to us?
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AuldTrafford Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:03:24am |
re: #743 MandyManners
I thought taxes were instituted to do things that individuals could not do alone, such as building infrastructure and supporting the modern military.
Well, no one can redistribute all the wealth in this country by themselves, so what's the problem?
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:04:01am |
re: #740 BlueCanuck
I rarely comment and don't mean to start a negative thread but I'm concerned about where we're going as a party.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:04:06am |
re: #748 AuldTrafford
Well, no one can redistribute all the wealth in this country by themselves, so what's the problem?
HA!
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:04:10am |
re: #739 MandyManners
No. 1. Where in the GOP platform are anti-scientific, particularly that bit about the earth supposedly being 6,000 years old?
No. 2. What specifically has Palin said that shames you?
You forgot No. 3.
(Come on, we know you want to).
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:04:21am |
re: #734 MandyManners
Too much Kenyan roast?
The guy looks, sounds and moves like he just spent the night with his tongue in a light socket.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:04:22am |
re: #746 His Royal Highness
Really? I find that hard to believe. Yes there is a SMALL group of YEC out there, but I hardly believe that they make up the majorty of the GOP. If you have facts proving this please show us. Other wise piss off.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:04:49am |
re: #744 scion9
You mean the great "Moby", that one?
Wooow!
/who the hell is he?
//some kid that does wierd music
/like Zappa?
//yeah, waaay ahead of his time, like 2525
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:05:42am |
re: #749 His Royal Highness
Don't mean to start a negative thread? You the one dropping the turd in the punch bowl? Give it up.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:06:23am |
re: #746 His Royal Highness
Quit reading Koz & Huffie--she's never said anything about the earth being 6000 yrs old. Give me a link that quotes her.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:06:58am |
Is it just me? Or is there an unusual amount of scarce posters popping up all of a sudden?
/must be a full moon.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:08:27am |
Funny, half it's comments posted were this morning. An awful lot of mobyism going on it looks like.
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:08:54am |
re: #757 BlueCanuck
Is it just me? Or is there an unusual amount of scarce posters popping up all of a sudden?
/must be a full moon.
ding! ding! ding! ding! ding!
It's not the moon though.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:09:05am |
re: #750 MandyManners
MM, He forgets that's with a Filibuster-proof senate and Dem/Lib ocntrolled congress, BHO can pass any law that he wants. Who can stop a legal process of law-making? Expecially, when his first action will be reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine--we will have no voice!
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:09:44am |
re: #735 His Royal Highness
Sorry, I don't support wall flower, so called conservative, comments from people who pop out with two days left. Try contributing to LGF throughout the election process to gain any respect here...you appear to be part of the problem, not the solution. Back up your statements or wait another four months before posting again...I'm betting on a drive-by.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:10:16am |
re: #753 BlueCanuck
I'm truly sorry you want me to "piss off." I wanted to engage in a discussion here - one which is taking place in many conservative circles right now. I apologize if I said anything untoward this evening.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:10:34am |
re: #738 NC State of Mind
John Legend and Cornell West together, why the hell did I watch that?
I'm a masochist - what's your excuse?/
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:11:48am |
re: #757 BlueCanuck
Sorry, BC, I find it hard to get in here during the week--things move so fast I haven't acquired the necessary ability in making sales calls and posting at the same time, but I do try to get in when I have time.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:13:25am |
re: #764 His Royal Highness
Give links to these Conservative Circles that are beating this up.
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:16:21am |
Good morning, Blue...hope all is well for you today.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:16:32am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:17:19am |
re: #757 BlueCanuck
Is it just me? Or is there an unusual amount of scarce posters popping up all of a sudden?
/must be a full moon.
Too many Hallowe'en treats?
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:17:53am |
re: #690 laZardo
Wait...so the Obama-Ayers points are no longer valid?
/state of confusion, sorry...
Ahem - its the stupido attempt at text comparison, which not only is a waste of time, but, as you can see from the article I linked, a rather unscientific, if not dishonest attempt at linking those two.
For an outstainding example of how to do this properly, I refer you to Zomblog - see a few threads below!
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alkmyst Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:19:32am |
Just saw this, and it reverberated with me...
If America wants a black president, it would really be better if it was someone who is more like:
David Palmer from 24 (Honest, straight-up, man of action),
than like
Lando Calrissian from Empire Strikes Back (slick talker, sells out his friends for political gain)
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:20:20am |
re: #769 His Royal Highness
Your links rest my case--Republican (NOT Conservative) Elite, he's gone with Chris & Peggy. Is there any place else?
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:20:25am |
Morning mates! Is it really 8:20 EST? Seems later for some reason!
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:21:10am |
Rustler back, work got quiet but i see nothing about hte world being only 6000years old in either of those 2 articles. I only saw that Palin represents older conservatism while McCain is a Hamiltonian Conservative.
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Silhouette Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:21:36am |
re: #774 LoFlyer
And I was up at 5 because the hubby swore we were leaving at 7am to drive to Georgia. Hubby is only just now in the shower.
So, I play on the intertubes.
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:21:52am |
DON'T give him the traffic: [Link: hrhnick.com...]
His favorite store is Abercrombie and Fitch. Hope his are wet right now.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:22:28am |
re: #772 alkmyst
Just saw this, and it reverberated with me...
If America wants a black president, it would really be better if it was someone who is more like:
David Palmer from 24 (Honest, straight-up, man of action),
than like
Lando Calrissian from Empire Strikes Back (slick talker, sells out his friends for political gain)
Haar mate! Lando came through when the chips were down! He knew what he was doing was wrong and made amends. No one is perfect, expecially me!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:23:13am |
re: #776 Silhouette
And I was up at 5 because the hubby swore we were leaving at 7am to drive to Georgia. Hubby is only just now in the shower.
So, I play on the intertubes.
Where you headed to in Georgia, mate?
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:24:05am |
britain is broke.
and our prime minister has gone begging to the Saudis
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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ThingFish Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:25:20am |
re: #772 alkmyst
It's amazing how much life advice one could get from a movie series...
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:25:49am |
re: #775 rancher
Rustler back, work got quiet but i see nothing about hte world being only 6000years old in either of those 2 articles. I only saw that Palin represents older conservatism while McCain is a Hamiltonian Conservative.
Morning Rustler! Like what do you do, hit your dad over the head and take over his keyboard? It will be really interesting on Wednesday morning when the vote is decided!
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:25:49am |
re: #50 sngnsgt
Found this @ DU:
Loved the click on the center window'--"Where's Russia?" And Joe the Curtain, Joe the Chair, etc...
But she looks good, looks really good!
LOL
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Silhouette Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:25:58am |
re: #779 LoFlyer
Gainesville. But we're just in TN, so not much of a drive. Trying to decide if we want to go over the Smokies (to see the color) or take "The Dragon."
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:26:43am |
re: #773 KB55
I'm confused. Anyone who disagrees with your opinion is no longer a conservative? Brooks has been with the movement for the past 25 years - he's not now simply abandoning the party.
Again - what is happening to us that when we try to engage in discussion the conversation is ended? How does this benefit anyone?
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3 wood Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:27:20am |
Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday he didn't know his aunt was living in the United States illegally and believes that laws covering the situation should be followed.
The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.
A statement given to the AP by Obama's campaign said, ''Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed.''
B. Hussein Obama also has no knowledge of his Reverend and spiritual advisor for 20 years being a racist anti-Semite and no knowledge of Bill Ayers being an unrepentant terrorist who killed people. He also has no knowledge of how to share his own wealth and help out his own family.
B. Hussein Obama does, however, have knowledge of how to take your wealth and give it to his supporters.
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:27:59am |
Hell with this we need to write in a pirate with a ninja as his VP. And a Cyborg pirate ninja as Sec. Def. Then the entire world will be to scared to even think of messing with us. Rustler trying for wackjob theory of the year. Yar and if ya disagree ill keel haul you and hang you out to dry from your toes by the mizzen mast.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:28:20am |
re: #766 KB55
Nah, not talking about you. Threads in general over the past month.
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:28:27am |
re: #769 His Royal Highness
Sorry?
David Brooks and his oped's in the New York Times is the support for your argument? Brooks use to lean to the right, but it appears he has tilted to the left of late. Probably when his view on the Iraq war changed.
David Brooks's column has appeared on the Op-Ed page of The New York Times since September 2003. He is also currently a commentator on "The Newshour with Jim Lehrer." Mr. Brooks is the author of "Bobos In Paradise: The New Upper Class and How They Got There" and “On Paradise Drive : How We Live Now (And Always Have) in the Future Tense,” both published by Simon & Schuster.
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:28:35am |
re: #772 alkmyst
David Palmer from 24 (Honest, straight-up, man of action),
But the First lady was a real nightmare.
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:28:44am |
re: #769 His Royal Highness
care to try again?
I see no mention in these links to a party policy that states that the world is 6000 years old.
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:29:34am |
Lol he leaves his account logged in occasionally and is bad enough with passwords that he leaves em about occasionally. Just waiting on the next open border day on LFG to grab my own nic : )
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:29:39am |
re: #783 yesandno
Loved the click on the center window'--"Where's Russia?" And Joe the Curtain, Joe the Chair, etc...
But she looks good, looks really good!
LOL
Looks a hell of lot better than Biden, mate! And makes a lot more sense to boot. I get a hoot at some web site claiming to test your IQ, they have Biden at 146 and Palin at 116. Poor advertising for their site to say the least, mates!
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ThingFish Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:29:41am |
re: #786 3 wood
I think that he's shallow enough to not really look at anything deeply. Therefore, coasting along the coattails of others and developing incredible auditory skills to talk around any uncomfortable issue.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:29:47am |
re: #768 jorline
Moby's and trolls oh my. :)
/putting a stock up in the Super Secret Fridge™ for the lean times ahead.
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alkmyst Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:30:11am |
re: #778 LoFlyer
Haar mate! Lando came through when the chips were down! He knew what he was doing was wrong and made amends. No one is perfect, expecially me!
Well, if 0bama does win, I would hope to God he makes amends...
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:30:13am |
re: #785 His Royal Highness
Don't you need to go shopping for some new underware?
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:30:39am |
re: #784 Silhouette
Gainesville. But we're just in TN, so not much of a drive. Trying to decide if we want to go over the Smokies (to see the color) or take "The Dragon."
441 through the Smokies mate! Well worth the time!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:31:04am |
re: #797 yah
Don't you need to go shopping for some new underware?
I hope it runs out of Cheetos soon.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:31:07am |
re: #780 buzzdroid
britain is broke.
and our prime minister has gone begging to the Saudis[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Don't forget to mention that half of what they give him (heh, this is a personal estimate!) will go on the gold-plated pensions for civil servants - the rest will be distributed between the CEOs of failed banks which Gord has taken over, so they can ahve their bonuses, and Africa.
Btw - earlier this year he gave 8oo million £££ as help to India, which is running their own space programme ...
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:32:00am |
re: #787 rancher
Hell with this we need to write in a pirate with a ninja as his VP. And a Cyborg pirate ninja as Sec. Def. Then the entire world will be to scared to even think of messing with us. Rustler trying for wackjob theory of the year. Yar and if ya disagree ill keel haul you and hang you out to dry from your toes by the mizzen mast.
LOL, mate! To many skeletons in the closet to pursue politics!
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3 wood Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:32:31am |
Here's some good news about the media:
Santa Rosa Press Democrat to cut newsroom jobs
SANTA ROSA, Calif.--- The Press Democrat of Santa Rosa is cutting 16 jobs, including 10 newsroom positions, to reduce expenses amid declining advertising and a deteriorating economy.
Publisher Bruce Kyse told employees Friday that the newspaper could not support as many employees because of the decline of classified advertising and the loss of retail advertisers such as Mervyns and Linens 'n Things.
After the cutbacks, the newsroom will have about 70 positions, down about 30 percent from its high four years ago.
The Press Democrat is owned by The New York Times Co.
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Wishing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:33:34am |
re: #667 Geepers
First off, thank you for serving your community. Secondly, how can Americans be taken in by this hypocritical charlatan?
That thin blue line is protecting his skinny arse.
I despise this man fairy.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:33:46am |
re: #785 His Royal Highness
I'm confused. Anyone who disagrees with your opinion is no longer a conservative? Brooks has been with the movement for the past 25 years - he's not now simply abandoning the party.
Again - what is happening to us that when we try to engage in discussion the conversation is ended? How does this benefit anyone?
Well, it seems he and others are "abonding" the party when they succumb to the KoolAde side of the arguement. And as noted above, here still is no substance to your 6000 year BS. The Conservatives of the party are still with the movement--the Repucblican elite want the 2000 McCain with Leiberman for the moderate vote--those are not Conservatives.
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3 wood Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:33:48am |
re: #794 ThingFish
I think that he's shallow enough to not really look at anything deeply. Therefore, coasting along the coattails of others and developing incredible auditory skills to talk around any uncomfortable issue.
He's likle Sgt. Schultz of Hogan's Heroes. He know nothing. And his worshipers in the MSM support him in this delusion.
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:34:07am |
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Wishing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:34:18am |
re: #784 Silhouette
Gainesville. But we're just in TN, so not much of a drive. Trying to decide if we want to go over the Smokies (to see the color) or take "The Dragon."
I am in the Smokies, and it is GORGEOUS!
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:34:40am |
re: #803 3 wood
Here's some good news about the media:
Morning, 3 wood...it would appear liberal rags are feeling growth pains coast to coast.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:34:47am |
re: #804 alkmyst
Does she remind you at all of Michelle 0bama?
Teeheehee - perhaps Michelle has studied her to learn how she should behave as First Lady!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:35:26am |
re: #796 alkmyst
Well, if 0bama does win, I would hope to God he makes amends...
No chance of that mate! He will create his internal security service and proceed from there with the media suppresing all dissent just like they hammered poor Joe Plumber. Notice the treatment of Obama'a aunt compared to poor Plumber.
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:36:17am |
Rofl Obama as SHultz. Thats a graet image he truely is shultz' foil in the looks department but comparing him to shultz in the brains dept is just being mean to poor Shultzy.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:36:33am |
Good Morning, Lizard Nation!
Had a great time making calls for the McCain campaign up in NH yesterday.
There were about 30 people per shift which is very impressive for a rural campaign office.
My favorite call: A call to a man whose wife answers the phone. I asked to speak with him, he wasn't home so I told her who I was and why I was calling, etc. etc. She said he is a life-long Republican and will be voting McCain. Same with her son and same for her daughter who is voting for the first time this year. Then she tells me she is a life-long DEMOCRAT and she is VOTING McCAIN!
I think there are a lot of people just like her.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:37:24am |
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:38:22am |
Obama as Shultz was 3 woods idea its just when i read it i had a flash right outta Hogan's Heroes with obama getting yelled at.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:39:28am |
re: #797 yah
This is shameful. I'm a long-time Republican and a conservative. I cannot understand why, when bringing up an issue that is percolating through our party and will surface very publicly next weekend when we have a meeting of conservatives after the election, I'm being scapegoated here. This is really disturbing.
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scion9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:39:32am |
re: #773 KB55
Your links rest my case--Republican (NOT Conservative) Elite, he's gone with Chris & Peggy. Is there any place else?
What is worse is that Brooks' stance is based on the position of the electorate (as based on polls) and his own position within an inadequately defined political spectrum. The country has shifted to the left apparently and he can't deal with himself being on the 'far right'. There is no principled belief in such a stance. Rejecting your own positions in response to the actions of your opposition is the very definition of reactionary, even if it is being done in the ironic attempt to avoid just such a label.
Personally, I'd rather be a 'moderate' in a country that had an even division between a range of political philosophies. I am however perfectly comfortable being a 'wingnut' instead, should the political winds shift to such a degree that I am made into one by the very virtue of sticking to my laurels.
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Geepers Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:39:44am |
His Royal Highness says:
I'm truly sorry you want me to "piss off." I wanted to engage in a discussion here - one which is taking place in many conservative circles right now.
Three moby clichés in two sentences.
Pretty good.
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Wishing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:39:47am |
re: #816 LoFlyer
Where are you hangin' mate?
I am over in NE TN, Appalachian Trail runs though my county.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:40:13am |
re: #817 rancher
Obama as Shultz was 3 woods idea its just when i read it i had a flash right outta Hogan's Heroes with obama getting yelled at.
Obama is no Shultz, he is not the "commen man" but I can definately see some Col. Klink in him!
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:40:49am |
re: #800 yma o hyd
Don't forget to mention that half of what they give him (heh, this is a personal estimate!) will go on the gold-plated pensions for civil servants - the rest will be distributed between the CEOs of failed banks which Gord has taken over, so they can ahve their bonuses, and Africa.
Btw - earlier this year he gave 8oo million £££ as help to India, which is running their own space programme ...
Just amazing. The kind of crap we will see from Obama, only moreso.
This article is from the BBC, and they also mention...
The PM visited the "correctional" centre, on the outskirts of the capital Riyadh, where inmates are encouraged to re-engage with mainstream Saudi society through religious and psychological education.
The men Mr Brown spoke to are suspected of backing terrorist organisations, not being directly responsible for violent acts.
The BBC's James Landale, who is travelling with Mr Brown, said it was a highly unusual moment for a world leader to come face to face with terrorist suspects.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:41:16am |
re: #822 Wishing
I am over in NE TN, Appalachian Trail runs though my county.
Wish I was there, mate!
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Wishing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:41:16am |
re: #823 LoFlyer
Obama is no Shultz, he is not the "commen man" but I can definately see some Col. Klink in him!
ZACKLY!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:43:11am |
re: #827 alkmyst
It definitely seems that way...
Ok - time to start the work day!Later Lizards!
Later Alky!
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:43:22am |
Lol actually in the image flashing before my Eyes Michelle was in the position of Klink.
And HRH your not getting Scapegoated you made an outrageous claim about Conservatives believing earth was 6000 years old and Palin beleived it yet when asked to provide some proof to substantiate your claim you produced fluff. This rightly earns you the flaming you received.
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:43:31am |
I'd say Obama is the vain incompetent Col Klink, and the no-nothing see-nothing MSM is Sgt. Schultz.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:44:02am |
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:44:02am |
re: #806 KB55
So David Brooks is "abonding" the party now? This guy is an amazing voice and intellect for our party - his concerns raise serious and profound questions about the direction of the party. I was hoping to start a discussion here about those issue - not to be dismissed entirely.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:44:13am |
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:45:11am |
re: #831 alien_mind
I'd say Obama is the vain incompetent Col Klink, and the no-nothing see-nothing MSM is Sgt. Schultz.
I agree with you on that mate!
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:45:48am |
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:45:50am |
re: #833 His Royal Highness
So David Brooks is "abonding" the party now? This guy is an amazing voice and intellect for our party - his concerns raise serious and profound questions about the direction of the party. I was hoping to start a discussion here about those issue - not to be dismissed entirely.
Intellect--there you go--sounding like the elitist that he (Brooks) is--"Intellect" is used for those not deemed smart enough to know their betters.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:45:52am |
re: #820 scion9
I appreciate your response - it helps me to understand the position of those who oppose Brooks in a way I didn't previously. Again - thank you.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:45:54am |
re: #824 ziggyelman
Just amazing. The kind of crap we will see from Obama, only moreso.
This article is from the BBC, and they also mention...The PM visited the "correctional" centre, on the outskirts of the capital Riyadh, where inmates are encouraged to re-engage with mainstream Saudi society through religious and psychological education.
The men Mr Brown spoke to are suspected of backing terrorist organisations, not being directly responsible for violent acts.
The BBC's James Landale, who is travelling with Mr Brown, said it was a highly unusual moment for a world leader to come face to face with terrorist suspects.
Just so - thats what iv'e been saying here ever since I made it through an open door!
As to the BBC report - gawd, Gord is an embarrassment, but there again, nothing as embarrassing as B0 will be if you let him get into the White House.
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runrabbitrun Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:46:50am |
re: #814 loppyd
There were about 30 people per shift which is very impressive for a rural campaign office.My favorite call: A call to a man whose wife answers the phone. I asked to speak with him, he wasn't home so I told her who I was and why I was calling, etc. etc. She said he is a life-long Republican and will be voting McCain. Same with her son and same for her daughter who is voting for the first time this year. Then she tells me she is a life-long DEMOCRAT and she is VOTING McCAIN!
I think there are a lot of people just like her.
Good Sunday morning loppyd and unstoppable lizard kingdom! I noticed the same dynamic Thursday night when I returned to blue NJ - discovered that the vast majority of my Dem neighbors were voting Republican, many for the first time in their lives.
I agree with lawhawk - it's not really so glum as the left is working hard to have you think. The left is relying on these principle dynamics to take the White House:
The timing of a national financial crisis to influence independent
voters and moderate Republicans.
Activating formerly unreliable voting demographics (inner city/historically left-identifying college and youth) with an irresistible, energizing candidate.
Depressing traditional Republican and Conservative turnout with a media
driven 'unstoppable force' poll narrative.
But there are realities that the media has NOT been reporting:
Historically, voter turnout in this country has been dismally low - often around 50%. The U.S. leans center-right. If large numbers of these traditional center-right unreliable voters are energized rather than depressed, their ballots will far surpass any potential numbers of all of the left-leaning demographic potentials (inner city/youth) that will cast first-time ballots.
The left-leaning college and youth vote has been greatly exaggerated and
emphasized in MSM profiling, while the large numbers of moderate and
conservative college/youth voters who will cast their first ballots has
been virtually unrepresented in the press, greatly reinforcing (and to a
good extent creating) the 'Obama inevitability' scenario saturating the
airwaves.
The untold truth and bottom line of this election, which the MSM is
desperately trying to suppress, is that if large numbers of traditional,
center-right previously non-voting citizens cast a ballot on Tuesday, they will swamp the smaller percentages of inner city/youth voters which the Dems are trying to move to the polls. They will swamp the fraudulent Acorn vote. That's why it is so vital for McCain supporters to try to get the vote out, both at GOP headquarters on election day, and by encouraging our friends, family and neighbors to GET TO THE POLLS!
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rancher Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:47:14am |
HRH starting a discussion is no problem but you made a claim, were asked to back it up, and the backup had no relevance to the claim you initially made. Then when it was pointed out you got overly defensive started whining and became nothing more than entertainment for me and likely others on the thread.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:47:17am |
re: #819 His Royal Highness
Hmmm, where did I run across this before? Oh yeah, here it is.
/beyond moby I am thinking troll.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:47:24am |
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:47:32am |
re: #836 yah
If he's going to that "party" then we know the OCnservative wing of the Republicans is totally screwed!
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:48:26am |
re: #819 His Royal Highness
This is shameful. I'm a long-time Republican and a conservative. I cannot understand why, when bringing up an issue that is percolating through our party and will surface very publicly next weekend when we have a meeting of conservatives after the election, I'm being scapegoated here. This is really disturbing.
HRH, with all due respect. Don't act like you've been shunned by your "fellow lizards" when you rarely comment here. If you visited more often and followed the threads over the last six months you wouldn't be so surprised by the response you're receiving.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:48:45am |
re: #822 Wishing
I am over in NE TN, Appalachian Trail runs though my county.
My dad recently moved to NC - near Maggie Valley. Says it's breathtaking.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:49:07am |
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:49:44am |
re: #839 His Royal Highness
I appreciate your response - it helps me to understand the position of those who oppose Brooks in a way I didn't previously. Again - thank you.
Haven't been keeping up with the debate mates, but if HRH is a troll he is the politest since Nodrog!
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:49:45am |
re: #769 His Royal Highness
Sorry?
This is still a sort of Platonic love on the part of Brooks...Elites to the left of me, Elites to the right, and it is the intellectual elite who should govern because of the very nature of that elite intellect.
Bologna...common sense from the common man is often overlooked because it doesn't appear to be "learned" but rather "acquired" outside of academia. And yet, it is often the tool for insight, decision-making, future planning. It usually is developed out of some understanding of the past, culled to it's important center, then used to develop future decisions. It can be all logical and more effective since once learned, it can be applied quickly without having the hem and haw.
We should all be educated, we should all strive to learn more about the world. But we must be grounded in what is real and possible not in what is hoped for or what is chosen for us by others. My experience has been that common sense asks more questions then does elitism. Consequently the answers of a common sense philosophy often do more to solve problems then create them.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:50:02am |
re: #843 BlueCanuck
Me defending my thesis makes me a 'troll?"
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:50:28am |
re: #841 runrabbitrun
Totally agree - and today and tomorrow can still be gainfully employed in getting the vote out, in convincing all those who usually think they don't need to bother to vote to get their backsides off their chairs and vote!
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Geepers Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:51:14am |
His Royal Highness says:
So David Brooks is "abonding" the party now? This guy is an amazing voice and intellect for our party - his concerns raise serious and profound questions about the direction of the party.
You really do need to be more "nuanced".
Also you said:
I wanted to engage in a discussion here - one which is taking place in many conservative circles right now.
Apparently in His Royal Highness' world "many conservative circles" = David Brooks.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:51:21am |
re: #841 runrabbitrun
That's why it is so vital for McCain supporters to try to get the vote out, both at GOP headquarters on election day, and by encouraging our friends, family and neighbors to GET TO THE POLLS!
That was the main point of the calls yesterday and in the coming days. I was working off a friendly list of those who voted Republican in '04.
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3 wood Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:51:45am |
re: #810 jorline
Morning, 3 wood...it would appear liberal rags are feeling growth pains coast to coast.
Well, they have no integrity or honesty left. The MSM is a joke.
I think their big hope is that the Fairness Doctrine will be reinstituted.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:52:28am |
re: #840 yma o hyd
Just so - thats what iv'e been saying here ever since I made it through an open door!
As to the BBC report - gawd, Gord is an embarrassment, but there again, nothing as embarrassing as B0 will be if you let him get into the White House.
Hello from Sydney!
Embarassing? We have our own fumbling bumbling ego driven liar here
PM Kevin Rudd in trouble for opening his BIG mouth, not engaging SMALL brain
have ongoing consequences for relationships between the two countries.
Details of the caTHE leaking of a sensitive phone call between Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and US President George W. Bush, and inaccuracies about what was said, will ll, a pre-arranged conversation to discuss the global financial crisis, were broken eight days ago on the front page of The Weekend Australian, but have since been denied by White House sources.
After the call, on the evening of Friday, October 10, Mr Rudd reportedly told guests he had insisted to Mr Bush that the G-20 was the appropriate vehicle to co-ordinate a response to the ongoing crisis affecting world markets.
"What's the G-20?'' Mr Bush reportedly replied.
That remark, and the notion Mr Bush had not already been considering the G-20's role have been denied by a US national security official who monitored the 30-minute conversation
We are suffering because a few voters wanted CHANGE!
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3 wood Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:52:38am |
re: #853 Geepers
Apparently in His Royal Highness' world "many conservative circles" = David Brooks.
If it walks like a moby and talks like a moby, it's a moby.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:52:40am |
re: #846 jorline
Thanks for your response - I just graduated with my MA so I've not had the time to comment recently. I probably jumped in during a time when the majority of readers/posters are hyper-sensitive to people lurking - I didn't think about that before posting and most likely should have.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:53:54am |
re: #851 His Royal Highness
Troll, moby, what's the difference. Considering most of your comments seem to come today. Saying that the Republican party is espousing YEC as a party platform. Then the only links proving this come from a writer for the New York Slimes. What would you think? And as the link I posted ↑ has you defending your "conservative credentials" I think you are left of center.
/none of us here who are conservative have had to defend our credentials.
//facts maybe but we usually have them to back us up.
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bcgirl Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:53:57am |
good morning lizards -- just in from the papers noticed lots of McCain Palin signs missing from where they have been but all the obama are still there, i will be replacing the McCain ones tonight, and have half a mind to go to the obama place and get me some of them so i can paint a big red no on them and place them next to the McCains that were stolen,,
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Tigger2005 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:54:33am |
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.— Niels Bohr
Haste makes waste.
He who hesitates is lost!
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Tigger2005 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:55:15am |
re: #861 bcgirl
good morning lizards -- just in from the papers noticed lots of McCain Palin signs missing from where they have been but all the obama are still there, i will be replacing the McCain ones tonight, and have half a mind to go to the obama place and get me some of them so i can paint a big red no on them and place them next to the McCains that were stolen,,
No, you don't want to give any money to the Obama campaign. Just buy posterboard & make your own.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:55:54am |
re: #850 yesandno
Hey thanks for your response. This is all a bit of a learning process for me and I always appreciate reading the different perspectives of fellow conservatives as I attempt to understand the direction in which our party is headed. Thanks for your reasoned and intelligent response.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:56:20am |
re: #852 yma o hyd
Totally agree - and today and tomorrow can still be gainfully employed in getting the vote out, in convincing all those who usually think they don't need to bother to vote to get their backsides off their chairs and vote!
Gotta make up for the thousands of incompetant homeless bussed, registered and voted courtesy of the socialists who believe that that the military voters should be dropped in favor of their incompetant clientelle! I thank all who have volunteered for the cause mates! I did my part with 14 hours comp time last weekend! I get compensated for my work mates! You don't! 'Me hats off to 'ye!
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Wishing Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:56:42am |
re: #847 loppyd
My dad recently moved to NC - near Maggie Valley. Says it's breathtaking.
Yup, it sure is. I am about 30 miles from Maggie Valley.
And temp will be 70 today, so perfect for enjoying the scenery. And not a cloud in the sky.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:57:00am |
re: #841 runrabbitrun
Thanks. A few further points. The Obama campaign is relying on the African American community, which overwhelmingly votes Democratic every election anyways. Any uptick in their participation rate will have only a marginal effect on the outcome since those areas usually go D anyway.
Obama also hopes for the youth vote, but again, those voters are notoriously unreliable to actually get out and vote. Remember Obama girl? She was a big hit early in the primary season, and yet never bothered to actually vote in the primaries. Couldn't find the time. Or her polling place.
As I noted above, McCain is portrayed on the defensive because he's trying to protect states Bush won in 2004. The media glosses over that fact because if McCain does hold those states, he wins. If McCain takes states in addition to those Bush won in 2004, he wins. He could even trade a couple of states, and still win.
The polling this year, as with prior years, is absolutely miserable and misleading. There's no way you get so many damned swings in polling unless the pollsters are fudging the figures to suit their constituents (which isn't the voter, but the media outlets paying for them). Oversampling Democrats is a time honed tradition, and if you look at places like NJ, they claim that it's going far and away for Obama. Gee, what a surprise there when Democrats outnumber Republicans 2-1. Same with the NYC metro area (but the rest of the state of NY is surprisingly Republican, conservative). Rest assured, the actual vote (not the exit polls, which should be ignored) will be a whole lot closer, and a whole lot more uncomfortable than the media could even begin to imagine.
The polling companies invariably will have to explain what went wrong and why; and rest assured that racism will be the number one excuse. Bitterness and clingyness will be a distant second and third. Obama's economic redistribution will barely rate, even though it is the real reason that so many dislike him.
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Dar ul Harb Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:57:46am |
re: #843 BlueCanuck
Hmmm, where did I run across this before? Oh yeah, here it is.
/beyond moby I am thinking troll.
I hope Stinky will be checking IPs. Good catch.
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Geepers Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:58:09am |
His Royal Highness says:
This is shameful. I'm a long-time Republican and a conservative.
And a conservative? Wow.
I cannot understand why, when bringing up an issue that is percolating through our party
You're not even trying.
and will surface very publicly next weekend when we have a meeting of conservatives
Oh, scary.
after the election,
After the election?
I'm being scapegoated here.
Aww. Hey everybody His Royal Highness needs a group {hug}.
This is really disturbing.
Or amusing, depending on your point of view.
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:58:17am |
Good Morning Lizards ...
Send this to your PA friends and family ...or anyone
Senator Government will bankrupt Coal Industry ...via Hillbuzz ..
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:58:45am |
re: #856 aussiemagpie
Gawd - thats deeply embarrassing, you're right.
Looks as if your PM has ingested far too many LLL media articles which describe GWB as dumb cowboy, and probably thought he'd get away with this remark.
I hope he cringes perpetually until Jan20th, 2009!
(Sorry to hear the ABs took the Bledisloe Cup from your hands ... we'll try and see if we can take them down a peg, for you ...!)
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:59:09am |
re: #851 His Royal Highness
Me defending my thesis makes me a 'troll?"
your thesis belongs in The National Topsider, alongside the works of T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 5:59:46am |
re: #860 BlueCanuck
Thanks "Blue Canuk" for your comment. Which, if I'm not mistaken, means "Conservative Canadian" because blue is the color of the Conservative party in Canada and "canuk" is understood to be Canadian. It's an interesting time when a "conservative Canadian" is in the position to judge me and my political opinions, but I'll leave that as it is.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:00:10am |
Howie Carr:
Five Reasons to Vote Against Obama
We could certainly add to Howie's list...
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bcgirl Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:00:18am |
hey neocon hippie,, will look for you today at McCain headquarters next to the Atlantis, and will email you later, keeping my nic blue for you today too, if you see a white hyundai with women for mccain sticker, say no to bo, send harry to searchlight and nevada basketball on the back, blond lady driving,, that's me!
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:01:14am |
Hey good morning all y'all - from a coolish (52 degrees going up to 73 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Today the Geek Squad guy is supposed to come and back up my doc's, install new Mother board, new CDW,
and new HD.
However, since Gateway hasn't yet sent me (or I haven't received) the Restore CD, for this Windows XP Home Media Edition, I doubt that he'll be able to do anything at all.
Sigh.
Anyway, how are y'all doing this morning?
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Geepers Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:01:16am |
Morning 3 wood.
Later all. Off to another 11 hour day of roofing.
Play nice, ... or not.
;-)
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:01:32am |
re: #853 Geepers
Brooks is the token conservative in the overwhelmingly leftist NYT op-ed circle. He's by no means a staunch conservative, but what you would most likely call a Rockefeller conservative. It's the NY brand of conservatism that the Times is amenable to - instead of the usual 100-1 attack pieces against a true conservative, the running rate would be 50-1.
There are many elites within the Beltway, Brooks included, who are hoping to have a voice should Obama take office. They want to be policy drivers and hope to have a seat at the table. That's why people like Colin Powell, Peggy Noonan and Buckley's son are off the reservation. They aren't pushing a conservative agenda, but rather their own.
That, distilled to its essence, is the reason to discount what Noonan, Powell, Brooks, and Buckley have said on this election. They've put their own self interest ahead of the ideas of conservatism.
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:01:39am |
re: #867 lawhawk
Very well put! I think the biggest problem we have is not getting more Latin voters...I guess they are going to vote for Obama since he is he's person of color(I guess pink skin ain't a color?) But, they really should be voting for the Pro-Life, socially conservative guy, not the Chosen one. Voters remorse down the road won't do us much good til 2010, 2012, and by then it will be too late(at least with the courts)
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bcgirl Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:01:50am |
re: #863 Tigger2005
No, you don't want to give any money to the Obama campaign. Just buy posterboard & make your own.
you have to pay for the obama ones? really, not the mccain ones, at least i have not as yet and i have a bunch,
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3 wood Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:02:37am |
re: #876 realwest
Anyway, how are y'all doing this morning?
Doing fine.
Any thoughts on the Giants game today?
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:02:59am |
Good morning LGF friends.
Good morning Highness, I left a response to you at the end of the last thread but since you are here, I will repost it.
re: #742 His Royal Highness
What is happening with the Republican party? Anti-science and anti-truth. This is not the conservative party to which I signed up. We need to purge these people or risk being a minority party forever.
Talks of purging people out of The Party for 'thought crimes' make me very nervous in the current political climate. Let's not go there, shall we ?
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:03:12am |
re: #866 Wishing
Yup, it sure is. I am about 30 miles from Maggie Valley.
And temp will be 70 today, so perfect for enjoying the scenery. And not a cloud in the sky.
Sounds perfect!
It's bright and sunny here on Boston's North Shore, but it's freezing!
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:03:23am |
re: #865 LoFlyer
Gotta make up for the thousands of incompetant homeless bussed, registered and voted courtesy of the socialists who believe that that the military voters should be dropped in favor of their incompetant clientelle! I thank all who have volunteered for the cause mates! I did my part with 14 hours comp time last weekend! I get compensated for my work mates! You don't! 'Me hats off to 'ye!
Whatever happens on Tueday, one thing is for sure - the Animal Kingdom, as represented by Lizards and PUMAs, will have done their utmost to get McCain into the White House.
Nobody can ask for more than people to give their best - and where people have given even more than their best, no shame can be attached to a defeat.
Not that I think there will be one!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:04:14am |
re: #873 His Royal Highness
Your spelling is atrocious. And yes I am judging you by your words and (in)action today and previous. People know me here and have probably judged me on my actions. Now do you want me to show my credentials?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:05:06am |
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:05:11am |
re: #882 mama winger
I apologize for the use of the word "purge." You're correct.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:05:40am |
re: #876 realwest
More scared than normal. Several hundred posts about my financial aid situation starting at #594, and also about the possibility of an Obama administration as a whole.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:05:42am |
re: #879 ziggyelman
On that front, the McCain campaign actually may surprise. His stance on immigration, while opposed by most conservatives and most Americans, would appeal to many Latinos and Hispanics as it provides what he calls a path to citizenship (I call it amnesty and a short circuiting of the lawful path to citizenship that millions of people have chosen over the decades with much success).
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:05:44am |
re: #879 ziggyelman
Very well put! I think the biggest problem we have is not getting more Latin voters...I guess they are going to vote for Obama since he is he's person of color(I guess pink skin ain't a color?) But, they really should be voting for the Pro-Life, socially conservative guy, not the Chosen one. Voters remorse down the road won't do us much good til 2010, 2012, and by then it will be too late(at least with the courts)
Latinos are overwhelmingly pro-life. Many of them are seeing Obama's stance on pro-death (and I mean that word precisely) and recoiling from the Democratic ticket. The election could very well hinge upon Catholics and the PUMAs.
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arizona9 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:05:45am |
re: wtc394
Either keep your gloom/doom to yourself or enter something constructive into the conversation.
If you want to believe all the polls are wrong, go right ahead. Someone asked a question and I answered it. I sure as hell won't keep my opinion to myself to make you happy. Do I hope they are all wrong? Yes. I simply said it doesn't look good. Your reaction makes me believe you are much more doomy and gloomy than you will admit. And, I didn't say the article was unreliable. I said I didn't know-another poster said it was reliable. Look it up yourself, it should be easy enough to find.
It's really simple. If you want to be positive, be positive. There is ZERO upside in being negative or worrying about the outcome between now and the time the polls close on Tuesday -- unless you're one of those people who needs fear to motivate them to take effective action.
Needs fear to motivate them? Wtf? And for the love of...I simply said it doesn't look good. And, I can't force myself to be positive by sticking my head in the ground and denying that the polls look bad. Is it closer than they look due to unreliable weekend polls as some have suggested? Maybe, I hope so. But, people, stop freaking out every time someone simply states, and mildly so, that it doesn't look good. Jesus.
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:05:48am |
re: #870 JacksonTn
Good Morning Lizards ...
Send this to your PA friends and family ...or anyone
Senator Government will bankrupt Coal Industry ...via Hillbuzz ..
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
That naked emperor news guy is just amazing! Too bad this couldn't have been a 24/7 ad in those coal producing states!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:06:01am |
re: #870 JacksonTn
Good Morning Lizards ...
Send this to your PA friends and family ...or anyone
Senator Government will bankrupt Coal Industry ...via Hillbuzz ..
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Much of the air pollution in he southwest is from Mexican coal-fired power plants, and they aren't going away mates. Obama is so full of crap that he sees only brown...
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:06:53am |
Morning all!
Tell me some good news... lots of "inevitable" BS out there. Getting under my skin.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:07:06am |
re: #881 3 wood
Giants win by a TD. I don't think they cover the spread as the Cowboys need the game more than the Giants, but the Giants are playing with a chip on their shoulder from being disrespected last season by the so-called experts...
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:07:44am |
re: #876 realwest
Hey good morning all y'all - from a coolish (52 degrees going up to 73 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Today the Geek Squad guy is supposed to come and back up my doc's, install new Mother board, new CDW,
and new HD.
However, since Gateway hasn't yet sent me (or I haven't received) the Restore CD, for this Windows XP Home Media Edition, I doubt that he'll be able to do anything at all.
Sigh.
Anyway, how are y'all doing this morning?
Hi {rw}!
Cold here as well - but since the wind has died down a bit it didn't feel so bad.
That geek person ought to have a restore CD, oughtn't he? Mind, I know nothing about such stuff ... keeping fingers crossed for you that it all works out!
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:08:22am |
re: #886 BlueCanuck
Why play nice?
/like rough housing on occassion. :)
Rough housing? When Obama's aunt is put under the bus and kicked out of the country, where she lives...that might be just the kind of rough housing you like! ;)
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:08:26am |
re: #885 BlueCanuck
Your "credentials?' And those would be your membership in the "Conservative" party of Canada? Yeah - why don't you show me those "conservative" credentials of which you're so proud my Canuk friend.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:08:44am |
re: #876 realwest
Hey good morning all y'all - from a coolish (52 degrees going up to 73 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Today the Geek Squad guy is supposed to come and back up my doc's, install new Mother board, new CDW,
and new HD.
However, since Gateway hasn't yet sent me (or I haven't received) the Restore CD, for this Windows XP Home Media Edition, I doubt that he'll be able to do anything at all.
Sigh.
Anyway, how are y'all doing this morning?
Doing fine Real! Sorry about computer problems. I dodged a bullet on Friday with 'me work laptop. Windows XP handled the issue extremely well though. Very surprised and pleased mate!
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:09:40am |
re: #890 mama winger
I remember back during the Democratic primaries in Texas, the news kept pointing out that "other" racial divide - between blacks and Hispanics...
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:09:41am |
re: #876 realwest
Hey good morning all y'all - from a coolish (52 degrees going up to 73 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Today the Geek Squad guy is supposed to come and back up my doc's, install new Mother board, new CDW,
and new HD.
However, since Gateway hasn't yet sent me (or I haven't received) the Restore CD, for this Windows XP Home Media Edition, I doubt that he'll be able to do anything at all.
Sigh.
Anyway, how are y'all doing this morning?
Hey, RW. How are you today my friend. Geek Squad showing up today?
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:10:11am |
re: #871 yma o hyd
Gawd - thats deeply embarrassing, you're right.
Looks as if your PM has ingested far too many LLL media articles which describe GWB as dumb cowboy, and probably thought he'd get away with this remark.
I hope he cringes perpetually until Jan20th, 2009!(Sorry to hear the ABs took the Bledisloe Cup from your hands ... we'll try and see if we can take them down a peg, for you ...!)
I'm so angry that Rudd is our PM, he's a joke and an embarrassment
Two more years...he'll be gone
As for the rugby, the Wallabies did a great job snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
Best thing about the game - the haka!
However I do love to watch the All Blacks play, just not win when they play our boys :-)
Yes a Wales win would be lovely
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:10:25am |
re: #882 mama winger
Good morning LGF friends.
Good morning Highness, I left a response to you at the end of the last thread but since you are here, I will repost it.
Talks of purging people out of The Party for 'thought crimes' make me very nervous in the current political climate. Let's not go there, shall we ?
Hi {mama winger]!
Talking about 'thought crimes' and 'purges' makes me feel very queasy and suspicious all in one go. Lets not go there at all, under any circumstances!
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:10:45am |
re: #882 mama winger
Good morning LGF friends.
Good morning Highness, I left a response to you at the end of the last thread but since you are here, I will repost it.
Talks of purging people out of The Party for 'thought crimes' make me very nervous in the current political climate. Let's not go there, shall we ?
Good morning, mama.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:11:06am |
re: #881 3 woodHey my friend, good to see ya!
Yeah, I think the Giants are gonna win - although we are playing at home which gives us a distinct disadvantage! (and no I don't know why my Giants play SO much better on the road!).
What do you think?
And more importantly, how are you?
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:12:56am |
Oh lookie the Syrian‘s are counting on Barack to win and, acting accordingly, the Syrian Army has entrenched itself along 335 klicks of Lebanon’s Eastern Border. …not to worry…according to Syria(the second or third - dependent upon your perspective - largest supplier of both state and non-state terrorist forces) they took-up this position to come in compliance with UN Resolution 1701 in a bid to stop smuggling:
The sources told al-Hayat that the deployment stretches 335 Kilometers or the entire Lebanese-Syrian border from the north to the Bekaa, or 90 km facing Akkar and 245 km facing the Bekaa.Al-Hayat said that Damascus has via its ministry of foreign affairs informed international parties of its intent to widen the deployment of its forces from Akkar to the eastern frontier adding that this measure comes as part of its commitment to implement U.N. Security Council resolution 1701.
According to information obtained by al-Hayat, Russian ambassador to Beirut Sergei Boukin had conveyed the Syrian position to Lebanese officials he met recently. Boukin affirmed that this aims at controlling the borders to prevent smuggling and infiltration.
But what do you really need to stop smuggling? Well…as everyone knows, not only do you need an offensive line the length of your border, that offensive line needs to be heavily backed-up with tanks and artillery:
Military sources indicated on Friday that the Syrian deployment stretched from Ersal to the heights of the frontier town of Deir al-Ashayer through the wilderness east of Baalbek, adding the deployment is heavily backed by tanks and field artillery.
Velcom kampers! Velcom to the Gates of Hell.
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:13:05am |
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:13:16am |
re: #908 doriangrey
Good morning Lizards...
Good mornin'! What car is that in the teeny tiny Avatar?
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:13:25am |
re: #882 mama winger
Good morning LGF friends.
Good morning Highness, I left a response to you at the end of the last thread but since you are here, I will repost it.
re: #742 His Royal Highness
What is happening with the Republican party? Anti-science and anti-truth. This is not the conservative party to which I signed up. We need to purge these people or risk being a minority party forever.
Talks of purging people out of The Party for 'thought crimes' make me very nervous in the current political climate. Let's not go there, shall we ?
Good Morning Mama Winger...you are correct!
Our friend, HRH, must recognize that there is a Republican Party and then a Conservative philosophy. There are Conservative Democrats as well.
In a country where there are multiple, viable, political parties, each party can be exclusionary, can be more ideological pure. After the election, these people vie for their positions based upon their share of the vote. Only after the elections do you know if the person you voted for, the ideological leader of your position, had to compromise that position to gain power and future influence.
With the two party system we have, all the compromises are created before the election...that is why both parties are broad and not ideologically pure. That way you expect that when you vote for a person, you are already aware of how he/she will govern before the fact, not after.
RHR doesn't understand that Republican and Conservative are not necessarily interchangeable words.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:13:26am |
re: #900 His Royal Highness
Piss off troll, you have no powers here. I have never been a card carrying member of the Conservative Party. In any of it's incarnations. I have served my country at home and abroad, I vote, I believe in free speech. And I am willing to fight using all the means at my disposal. So who were you originally? Some previously banned poster? Time to sit down and shut up.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:13:54am |
re: #888 laZardo Hey my friend - I'm really sorry but I don't really have the time to go back several hundred posts about your financial situation - can ya summarize it for me?
And since McCain's gonna win, I don't know why we'd be talking about an Obama administration anyway.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:14:44am |
Mates, this is another call for fellow metro ATL lizards for our meet next Sunday! Email me if interested,' me nic is blue and I'll give you the secret location and time. And no, its not the DIA sub-basement! Looks like we will have six or seven lizards next Sunday!
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:14:46am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:14:47am |
Good morning goddess. How are you doing today?
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:14:55am |
re: #914 yesandno
Really well-reasoned response which made me think about my previous comments - thank you for writing it.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:15:59am |
re: #876 realwest
Hi {realwest} and I hope Dr Geek can do something for your poor sick computer!
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:16:33am |
re: #915 BlueCanuck
Oh so sensitive... Really, is there any need for the name calling? Someone needs to schedule an appointment with the dermatologist for a skin-thickening session.
Being Canadian isn't all bad you know...
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:16:50am |
re: #909 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Morning Dorian!
Morning Vet... Morning goddess ((goddess)) MHAW...
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:16:57am |
re: #894 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Morning all!
Tell me some good news... lots of "inevitable" BS out there. Getting under my skin.
Here's something to cheer you up - especially the short video in the middle!
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:17:09am |
re: #896 yma o hyd
Well good afternoon to you {yma o hyd}! (BTW, can I call yma?). Don't know what he's bringing or what he can do, but we'll find out!
How are you doing today?
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:17:16am |
re: #917 LoFlyer
Mates, this is another call for fellow metro ATL lizards for our meet next Sunday! Email me if interested,' me nic is blue and I'll give you the secret location and time. And no, its not the DIA sub-basement! Looks like we will have six or seven lizards next Sunday!
Well...sounds like a meeting of an elitist group of Republicans from the Metro ATL area...don't want any of us low class suburb types from Jonesboro...Hrrumph!
;)
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runrabbitrun Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:17:31am |
re: #867 lawhawk
Thanks. A few further points. The Obama campaign is relying on the African American community, which overwhelmingly votes Democratic every election anyways. Any uptick in their participation rate will have only a marginal effect on the outcome since those areas usually go D anyway.
Obama also hopes for the youth vote, but again, those voters are notoriously unreliable to actually get out and vote. Remember Obama girl? She was a big hit early in the primary season, and yet never bothered to actually vote in the primaries. Couldn't find the time. Or her polling place.
Agree with all your points! We shouldn't wonder about the feature articles the MSM has been so lovingly spotlighting on the airwaves and in the press. Notice that the entire MSM narrative has been the Republican-vote-depressing fear tactic of total focus on the inner city and youth vote. Omitted again and again are the potential voter percentages involved in those demographics.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:18:09am |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:18:56am |
re: #924 yma o hyd
Here's something to cheer you up - especially the short video in the middle!
Thanks! She is so cute (the little girl... Palin herself is smoking hot...)
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:19:28am |
re: #922 His Royal Highness
Oh so sensitive... Really, is there any need for the name calling? Someone needs to schedule an appointment with the dermatologist for a skin-thickening session.
Being Canadian isn't all bad you know...
It's not all good either mate! We have damn thick skins because many of us work with flaming liberals with no common sense! And I am not impressed with Canada one bit. Like Europe and half the world, we provide you with security and stability and all we get is a ton shit for our efforts...
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:20:06am |
re: #904 aussiemagpie
I'm so angry that Rudd is our PM, he's a joke and an embarrassment
Two more years...he'll be gone
As for the rugby, the Wallabies did a great job snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
Best thing about the game - the haka!
However I do love to watch the All Blacks play, just not win when they play our boys :-)
Yes a Wales win would be lovely
Aww - I know the feeling! Its always soo nice when someone beats the ABs!
Thats why we're still secretly gloating over that RWC game last year, France V All Blacks ...
Still - gotta beat the Bokkes first, this Saturday, I suppose!
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:20:09am |
re: #916 realwest
Long story in point form:
- I'm petitioning my mom for permanent residency because she insists that I need a relative with me if/when I move back to the United States and she's convinced my US-based relatives not to take me alone. Involves a bit of my past that includes a 9-day stay at the Sacramento Mental Health Treatment Center.
- I don't exactly have the money to support myself, let alone my college education there (costs + lack of financial aid for my major = not good).
- She thinks an Obama administration would be more beneficial since the two of us, despite very likely bunking with US-based relatives, would start "at the bottom."
- I'm inclined to agree with that.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:20:18am |
re: #903 jorlineHi jorline!
Yep, he is supposed to get here anytime between 12-4 PM Eastern. As I said he may leave 5 minutes after he gets here, too!
How are you doing? How's the pain and are you still able to sleep with that Ambien?!
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:20:23am |
re: #924 yma o hyd
Here's something to cheer you up - especially the short video in the middle!
I saw the video before...I sent it to everyone I know. "Precious" is a very important tool when getting the message across! You betcha!
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:20:39am |
re: #928 doriangrey
Man, i wish the avatars could be bigger, but I understand how that would likely slow everything down. I have a 1973 Mark lV, but I couldn't figure out how to make it tiny enough for the site...
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:20:50am |
On All Souls Day, November 2, the Church prays for all who have died that through the purifying mercy of God they will come to the share in the Lord's resurrection and enjoy the peace of God's reign forever.
The video here is the Kyrie from the Requiem Mass of Spanish composer and organist Tomás Luis de Victoria. The Kyrie is the original Greek of what we pray as "Lord have mercy... Christ have mercy..." The performance is by the Tallis Scholars. Please let it fill you with hope and joy:
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:21:19am |
re: #873 His Royal Highness
Thanks "Blue Canuk" for your comment. Which, if I'm not mistaken, means "Conservative Canadian" because blue is the color of the Conservative party in Canada and "canuk" is understood to be Canadian. It's an interesting time when a "conservative Canadian" is in the position to judge me and my political opinions, but I'll leave that as it is.
This is where you've fucked up, HRH. Blue doesn't have to prove anything to you...BC has a proven track record here by posting daily. No one here has to guess where Blue is coming from...you on the other hand? I suggest you click Blue's avatar and spend the next week reading his comments...that will provide the proof you seek.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:21:22am |
re: #910 goddessoftheclassroomHey good morning {goddess} - how are ya today?
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:21:47am |
re: #926 ziggyelman
Well...sounds like a meeting of an elitist group of Republicans from the Metro ATL area...don't want any of us low class suburb types from Jonesboro...Hrrumph!
;)
Haar! You could not be more mistaken mate! I hail from Conyers/Covington, not exactly elitist territory! Email me and I will send the low-down on the meet!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:21:59am |
re: #930 LoFlyer
It's not all good either mate! We have damn thick skins because many of us work with flaming liberals with no common sense! And I am not impressed with Canada one bit. Like Europe and half the world, we provide you with security and stability and all we get is a ton shit for our efforts...
Don't worry, Obama will "fix" the latter... and they'll soon be pining for the day when we were strong and had them covered.
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:22:15am |
re: #839 His Royal Highness
I appreciate your response - it helps me to understand the position of those who oppose Brooks in a way I didn't previously. Again - thank you.
Why don't you just put a lid on negative crap until after the election ...there will be plenty of time after we defeat Senator Government to talk about party politics ...we have one goal now and that is to get McCain into the White House ...
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:22:16am |
re: #908 doriangrey
Good morning dorian - how are you doing this morning?
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:23:13am |
Off the rails in Vermont
A candidate for Attorney General promises to get Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi to prosecute President Bush for murder.
You can't make this stuff up.
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VioletTiger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:23:30am |
re: #861 bcgirl
good morning lizards -- just in from the papers noticed lots of McCain Palin signs missing from where they have been but all the obama are still there, i will be replacing the McCain ones tonight, and have half a mind to go to the obama place and get me some of them so i can paint a big red no on them and place them next to the McCains that were stolen,,
Nobody has taken my McCain signs and I am just a little disappointed. Went through the trouble of rubbing them with poison ivy just hoping for some miscreant would come along and snag them. Had the back-ups all ready to go. Darn.
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:23:43am |
re: #932 laZardo
Long story in point form:
- I'm petitioning my mom for permanent residency because she insists that I need a relative with me if/when I move back to the United States and she's convinced my US-based relatives not to take me alone. Involves a bit of my past that includes a 9-day stay at the Sacramento Mental Health Treatment Center.
- I don't exactly have the money to support myself, let alone my college education there (costs + lack of financial aid for my major = not good).
- She thinks an Obama administration would be more beneficial since the two of us, despite very likely bunking with US-based relatives, would start "at the bottom."
- I'm inclined to agree with that.
With Obama it not only starts at the bottom, it stays at the bottom...
Good luck to you...but I don't think that position is a winner.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:24:02am |
re: #930 LoFlyer
And I am not impressed with Canada one bit. Like Europe and half the world, we provide you with security and stability and all we get is a ton shit for our efforts...
Unfortunate you feel that way, but I understand why. Believe me I know if it wasn't for the U.S.A. we would have been calling ourselves the Canadian Peoples Socialist Rebublic.
/learned my history, and lived part of it.
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jorline Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:24:20am |
re: #933 realwest
Hi jorline!
Yep, he is supposed to get here anytime between 12-4 PM Eastern. As I said he may leave 5 minutes after he gets here, too!
How are you doing? How's the pain and are you still able to sleep with that Ambien?!
Sleeping well and I see the rheumatologist for the first time tomorrow morning. Yea!
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:24:26am |
re: #890 mama winger
Latinos are overwhelmingly pro-life. Many of them are seeing Obama's stance on pro-death (and I mean that word precisely) and recoiling from the Democratic ticket. The election could very well hinge upon Catholics and the PUMAs.
this whole thing of him relentlessly opposing the born alive infant protection act truly is "pro-death". i mean, being pro abortion is one thing but depriving a viable infant of care after it survives a botched abortion is so horrendous and evil, it makes me think obama is a cruel heartless monster.
most people would oppose this kind of barbarous stance on the issue. i just don't get it. when i see even an animal in distress, a lost kitten or injured bird, i feel compassion and an urge to help it.
what the fck is wrong w/ this candidate? and people think he will actually have the best interests of the american public in mind. not possible. it doesn't work that way. if he thinks it is fine to let a new born die, he has fundamental problems. and it is evident in many of his words and deeds.
he has
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:24:27am |
re: #921 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussiemagpie} ME TOO! LOL! How are you getting along - what is it - two AM where you are?
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akak Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:25:10am |
re: #930 LoFlyer
It's not all good either mate! We have damn thick skins because many of us work with flaming liberals with no common sense! And I am not impressed with Canada one bit. Like Europe and half the world, we provide you with security and stability and all we get is a ton shit for our efforts...
Electing a Marxist won't save you.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:25:30am |
re: #944 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Off the rails in Vermont
A candidate for Attorney General promises to get Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi to prosecute President Bush for murder.You can't make this stuff up.
Beautiful state taken over by Manhattan moonbats...
I spent a lot of time there in another life. Talk about feeling like a fish out of water!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:25:53am |
re: #943 realwest
Good morning dorian - how are you doing this morning?
Doing pretty good, coffee just finished peculating, or dripping or what ever it is that it does. Reading HRH post's thinking I must have missed the BBQ... Mmmm gamey troll buttocks early Sunday morning... ;)
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lori lane Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:25:56am |
Good morning, dear Lizzards! Hey {Realwest}! I'm so glad you're seeing your Geek buddies today! I sure hope they can help you once and for all!
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:26:03am |
re: #925 realwest
Well good afternoon to you {yma o hyd}! (BTW, can I call yma?). Don't know what he's bringing or what he can do, but we'll find out!
How are you doing today?
Sure you can call me 'yma'!
We're ok - Miss Dog just had a nice bit of Sunday Dinner, its a tradition now. My dear friend and neighbour has been giving those left-overs to our dogs for years.
Big Dog used to wait patiently for ir, and he couldn't abide me chatting over the garden fence with her - he wanted it NOW! So he barked his head off ...
Just waiting here for the rugby games this p.m. - my club has made it to the semi-finals, lets see who else is going through ...
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:26:51am |
re: #939 LoFlyer
Haar! You could not be more mistaken mate! I hail from Conyers/Covington, not exactly elitist territory! Email me and I will send the low-down on the meet!
Thanks! Just sent one!
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Knitwit Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:27:18am |
'Morning, everybody!
Thanks for the prayers and concern for my niece.
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legalpad Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:27:21am |
re: #922 His Royal Highness
OK - I just barely woke up - 1st cup of espresso here - so what are you talking about? Conservatives are stupid or something like that?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:27:28am |
re: #953 doriangrey
Still working on the tenderization process.
/where did everyone come from all of a sudden?
//gotta stop focusing like that.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:27:39am |
re: #930 LoFlyer Hey good morning my friend! Um, I don't want to argue with you here, but - in honor of our Canadian Lizards - I feel compelled to point out to you that Canada has been our ally - and a damn good one, a fighting ally (unlike, say, the Germans) in Afghanistan and I for one appreciate that.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:27:44am |
re: #945 VioletTiger
Nobody has taken my McCain signs and I am just a little disappointed. Went through the trouble of rubbing them with poison ivy just hoping for some miscreant would come along and snag them. Had the back-ups all ready to go. Darn.
LOL! Yesterday at the McCain office a 15 yr. old kid was telling me that he has had 3 signs stolen and then a homemade wooden sign destroyed.
I asked for pics - hoping he emails them to me.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:28:22am |
re: #947 BlueCanuck
Unfortunate you feel that way, but I understand why. Believe me I know if it wasn't for the U.S.A. we would have been calling ourselves the Canadian Peoples Socialist Rebublic.
/learned my history, and lived part of it.
No offence, Blue! But everytime their is a crises or disaster America is in the the thick of it and few appreciate it. I hope McCain will pull us out of the UN and create a "League of Democracies" with membership for only true democracies, social and capitalists banding togather for a common cause...
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ziggyelman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:28:36am |
re: #945 VioletTiger
Nobody has taken my McCain signs and I am just a little disappointed. Went through the trouble of rubbing them with poison ivy just hoping for some miscreant would come along and snag them. Had the back-ups all ready to go. Darn.
That's just cruel. Funny, very funny...but cruel.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:29:18am |
good morning again everyone! Newspapers have been digested - never mind not going there.
re: #949 nyc redneck
what the fck is wrong w/ this candidate?
Yeah, this is a very strange position for an African American to take. I've heard that the number of AA babies aborted amounts to another holocaust.
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:29:28am |
re: #938 realwest
Hey good morning {goddess} - how are ya today?
I'm finishing breakfast before I attempt to get the house in order. I'm giving myself another half hour...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:30:05am |
re: #963 LoFlyer
None really taken. Just had to stand up for patriotic pride. ;)
/and I am all for the League of Democracies.
//down with the U.N.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:30:11am |
re: #931 yma o hyd
Aww - I know the feeling! Its always soo nice when someone beats the ABs!
Thats why we're still secretly gloating over that RWC game last year, France V All Blacks ...Still - gotta beat the Bokkes first, this Saturday, I suppose!
We'll be watching the game, will you be going there?
(I'll watch out for you) :-)
One day when we win Lotto we'll go on a rugby tour and support our Wallabies
A FULL-strength Springbok squad departed South Africa today seeking to make it three wins out of three in Wales, Scotland and England in the coming weeks.
Springbok coach Peter de Villiers won just two of the Boks' six Tri-Nations matches earlier this year, but with just a few months away from the British and Irish Lions' visit to South Africa next season, he'll be seeking to land an early psychological blow this month.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:30:17am |
If I may humbly request...
When this election is over, and someone has a spare McCain/Palin sign laying around somewhere, could one of you send it to me? I'd like to post it on my bedroom door, which interestingly faces my punk-rocker brother's door across the hall.
On his door is an upside-down American flag with "Hello, USA!" scribbled across it in Sharpie.
/spite is good, lol
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:30:21am |
re: #957 ziggyelman
Thanks! Just sent one!
Yaaar! Be back in a few minutes, I have to login to 'me trusty network!
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:31:24am |
re: #930 LoFlyer
It's not all good either mate! We have damn thick skins because many of us work with flaming liberals with no common sense! And I am not impressed with Canada one bit. Like Europe and half the world, we provide you with security and stability and all we get is a ton shit for our efforts...
LoFlyer, I think you misunderstood. HRH comments were directed at BlueCanuck, not referring to himself.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:31:57am |
re: #932 laZardo
Uh, I'm not sure I understand the sponsoring stuff, but ya know you are young and starting at the bottom is where most of us do start, regardless of who's POTUS.
And unfortunately, in the unlikely event Obama is elected POTUS, there will be lots of company for you at the bottom.
What am I missing here?
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:32:40am |
re: #949 nyc redneck
what the fck is wrong w/ this candidate?
he's a Marxist.
thats whats wrong with him.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:33:10am |
re: #973 SurferDoc
Don't know, are THEY still here?
/if not then yes, if yes then still in progress.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:33:40am |
re: #973 SurferDoc
Good morning--coffee's up!
Are we winning today?
Dude, we're always winning... Because we're not whiners... We're winners... ;)
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:33:44am |
re: #969 laZardo
If I may humbly request...
When this election is over, and someone has a spare McCain/Palin sign laying around somewhere, could one of you send it to me? I'd like to post it on my bedroom door, which interestingly faces my punk-rocker brother's door across the hall.
On his door is an upside-down American flag with "Hello, USA!" scribbled across it in Sharpie.
/spite is good, lol
I have a ton in my trunk. I will put one aside for you. It says COUNTRY FIRST with the McCAIN-PALIN logo.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:34:08am |
re: #950 realwest
Hey {aussiemagpie} ME TOO! LOL! How are you getting along - what is it - two AM where you are?
It's just after 1.30am and I'm thinking of bed - it's Monday which means a four letter word W-O-R-K
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:34:15am |
re: #922 His Royal Highness
Oh so sensitive... Really, is there any need for the name calling? Someone needs to schedule an appointment with the dermatologist for a skin-thickening session.
Being Canadian isn't all bad you know...
Do you have anything useful to contribute here?
If you are just here to pick fights then I have a suggestion:
Stick your royal head up your royal ass and fight for air.
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His Royal Highness Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:34:27am |
re: #959 legalpad
Not at all. Conservatives are the party of ideas - or we used to be.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:35:11am |
re: #974 realwest
Uh, I'm not sure I understand the sponsoring stuff, but ya know you are young and starting at the bottom is where most of us do start, regardless of who's POTUS.
And unfortunately, in the unlikely event Obama is elected POTUS, there will be lots of company for you at the bottom.
What am I missing here?
Yup, lot's of us who have clawed our way to the dizzying heights of the lower middle will once again find ourselves back at the bottom...
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:35:38am |
re: #978 loppyd
Thanks a bunch. I'm putting up my e-mail in my username if you'd like to contact me for a shipping address. (:
And in return, I'll stop being such a Yankees fan.
/THERE. I SAID IT.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:35:45am |
re: #972 TXNavy
Gateway Pundit has some explosive new audio!
I just sent that to Drudge. Hope it takes off!
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:36:19am |
folks - pass this one around to anyone who is even *thinking* of voting obama
[Link: www.zombietime.com...]
Much of Osawatomie, which was written at a time when the Dohrn-Ayers wing of the Weather Underground was transitioning from terrorism to “working from the inside” for revolution, concerns itself with the need to encourage “organizers” who will work in “communities” and use “audacity” to bring about “socialism” in America.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:36:40am |
re: #948 jorline YEA indeed! That's great news and I sure hope he/she can help y'all out!
I WILL have a functioning computer* so please e-mail me if you can when you find out anything ok?
*Geek Squad doesn't touch this machine until I explain lack of Restoration CD and lack of Back Up of doc's and he can satisfy me that there's no problem (which might be the case; I have a partitioned HD - one which is the local C drive and one which is the "Restore" D drive).
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legalpad Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:36:44am |
re: #981 His Royal Highness
Not at all. Conservatives are the party of ideas - or we used to be.
OK - what do you mean "we used to be?"
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:37:44am |
re: #968 aussiemagpie
I hope to watch it in a pub in town, on a big screen, with lots of friends.
International Match Day in Cardiff is simply amazing, for atmosphere.
We nearly nearly had the Bokkes this June on our SA tour - a couple of iffy ref decisions turned it their way, but they were as totally dead on their feet as our lads - and hugely impressed with the way we played. even Joost van der Westerhuizen, their former formidable scrum half, was full of praise.
Mind - our lads would rather face the angry Bokkes and die, than face the angry Warren Gatland and especially Shaun Edwards if they lost and were still able to walk off the pitch without help ...
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:37:59am |
re: #952 loppyd
Hey {loppyd}! How are you doing good looking?
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:38:03am |
re: #874 loppyd
Howie Carr:
Five Reasons to Vote Against ObamaWe could certainly add to Howie's list...
Note that both "5 Reasons," (Obama's and McCain's) both list the main women on their candidacies as pretty much the biggest reasons to vote against them.
Chauvinists.
/[=
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:38:14am |
re: #975 buzzdroid
he's a Marxist.
thats whats wrong with him.
oh yeah, that's right.
how many people have died under communism around the world?
a hundred million? why not add a few newborns to the pile/
sickening.
i can hardly even say that in sarcasm.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:38:22am |
re: #986 realwest
YEA indeed! That's great news and I sure hope he/she can help y'all out!
I WILL have a functioning computer* so please e-mail me if you can when you find out anything ok?*Geek Squad doesn't touch this machine until I explain lack of Restoration CD and lack of Back Up of doc's and he can satisfy me that there's no problem (which might be the case; I have a partitioned HD - one which is the local C drive and one which is the "Restore" D drive).
They may be able to back up your old HD contents before the swap.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:38:36am |
re: #972 TXNavy
Gateway Pundit has some explosive new audio!
I hope everyone in states that produce or use energy is listening to what he's saying. This guy has dangerously unworkable ideas.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:39:42am |
re: #951 akak
Electing a Marxist won't save you.
Especially if that Marxist downplays the fact that Marxism requires hared hard HARD work from all. . .for the good of the state.
These idiots at work think they will be in a Cialis ad. . .nothing to do but watch sunsets from individual bath tubs and wait for the check. . .
One girl has already given her notice, ready to be one of the downtrodden to get her check. . .
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:39:52am |
Have you seen the photo of Senator Government on Drudge? ...I don't know much about taking photos so I am asking ... do you have to use a special lens or something to get that cross thing? That picture is the worst for me in this whole campaign ...makes me sick ...
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:40:01am |
re: #974 realwest
Not much. I'm just worried about my financial situation there is all. I have about $3,000-$4,000 in savings, most in a CD and it'll be very difficult to find even part-time work to fund my education there because they prioritize toward recently-graduated high-schoolers.
Mostly worrying and venting. Hopefully I can get through it.
/[expletive deleted] ageists...
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:40:24am |
re: #979 aussiemagpie
It's just after 1.30am and I'm thinking of bed - it's Monday which means a four letter word W-O-R-K
Hey after Tuesday. . .oh, wait, nevermind:)
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:40:46am |
re: #994 jaunte
I hope everyone in states that produce or use energy is listening to what he's saying. This guy has dangerously unworkable ideas.
Oh, he'll make them 'workable' all right, never mind if he bankrupts a whole industry in the process!
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:42:02am |
re: #959 legalpad
OK - I just barely woke up - 1st cup of espresso here - so what are you talking about? Conservatives are stupid or something like that?
Exactly.
It's a very poor quality troll this morning.
Hardly even worth playing with.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:42:12am |
re: #940 yma o hyd
One itsy-bitsy piece in a very ugly puzzle. For instance, another piece, only a few days ago the Mullah's & UAE signed a MoU to ' facilitate the setting up of a joint security organization between Iran and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).' (at bottom of the article).
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:42:34am |
re: #989 yma o hyd
I hope to watch it in a pub in town, on a big screen, with lots of friends.
International Match Day in Cardiff is simply amazing, for atmosphere.We nearly nearly had the Bokkes this June on our SA tour - a couple of iffy ref decisions turned it their way, but they were as totally dead on their feet as our lads - and hugely impressed with the way we played. even Joost van der Westerhuizen, their former formidable scrum half, was full of praise.
Mind - our lads would rather face the angry Bokkes and die, than face the angry Warren Gatland and especially Shaun Edwards if they lost and were still able to walk off the pitch without help ...
LOL! The ref had it in for our boys last night - it was a woeful refereeing display and that's not being biased - even though I view rugby through green and gold glasses :-)
Enjoy the atmosphere, and good luck to your team - also for your local team in the semis
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:42:37am |
re: #965 wahabicorridor
Good morning {wahabi} hope you and yours - especially the not-quite-so-fat beagle are doing ok?!
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swamprat Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:42:44am |
re: #749 His Royal Highness
I rarely comment and don't mean to start a negative thread but I'm concerned about where we're going as a party.
You think you have it bad? I'm a democrat! My party lies, supports socialists, panders to all sorts of dictators, portrays America as an oppressor, rewrites history, supresses the economy, and never saw a nutty cause that they wouldn't close to if if could buy they a single vote...
...Sorry, about "your party".
By the way, little green footballs is not a Republican- only blog
But you knew that, because you are not a troll
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:43:26am |
re: #999 yma o hyd
I'm convinced he is a saboteur, eager to use state power to destroy the economy. No one is this dumb.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:44:01am |
re: #1001 Spirit93
Always worth the effort. Besides I am dealing with heartburn, so I thought I would spread the pain. ;)
/only to those truly deserving mind you.
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legalpad Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:44:08am |
re: #1001 Spirit93
lol - well, I only have so much time this morning anyway.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:44:14am |
re: #983 laZardo
Thanks a bunch. I'm putting up my e-mail in my username if you'd like to contact me for a shipping address. (:
And in return, I'll stop being such a Yankees fan.
/THERE. I SAID IT.
I just sent you an email...it's a gmail account and my real initials are also LD.
And don't think I won't forget what you said about the Yankees. LOL
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:44:20am |
re: #973 SurferDoc
Hey there SurferDoc - at LGF we are always winning!
How are ya doing this morning?
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runrabbitrun Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:45:41am |
re: #949 nyc redneck
this whole thing of him relentlessly opposing the born alive infant protection act truly is "pro-death". i mean, being pro abortion is one thing but depriving a viable infant of care after it survives a botched abortion is so horrendous and evil, it makes me think obama is a cruel heartless monster.
most people would oppose this kind of barbarous stance on the issue. i just don't get it. when i see even an animal in distress, a lost kitten or injured bird, i feel compassion and an urge to help it.
what the fck is wrong w/ this candidate? and people think he will actually have the best interests of the american public in mind. not possible. it doesn't work that way. if he thinks it is fine to let a new born die, he has fundamental problems. and it is evident in many of his words and deeds.
he has
That's exactly what has been most on my mind lately too, and I've been speaking up about to other voters.
Obama claims his compassion leads him to want to help the weakest of this nation, but the folks he refers to are generally able to save themselves, even if it involves a lot of work and effort. The tiniest infants gasping for their lives- or even a few hours of it, God willing in less pain or discomfort - are totally helpless. Lord save us from that kind of hypocritical compassion: if you can't vote, you don't get any sympathy from Obama.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:45:43am |
re: #972 TXNavy
Obama will turn out the lights on the coal industry in the US. Let's not forget that nearly 50% of power in the US is generated from coal, and at least a dozen states have major coal production sites, generating jobs and revenues for the states. Obama looks to kill that with his cap and trade policies.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:45:52am |
re: #979 aussiemagpie
GAH! I used to hate that four letter word - til I got "retired" anyway!
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:46:03am |
re: #1010 realwest
Hey there SurferDoc - at LGF we are always winning!
How are ya doing this morning?
I'm good. Rooting for you and your computer while I drink my coffee!
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:46:40am |
re: #1006 jaunte
I'm convinced he is a saboteur, eager to use state power to destroy the economy. No one is this dumb.
i agree w/ you.
especially given all these alliances he has w/ anti-americans who have expressly stated they want to bring our country down.
his idea of change is destruction.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:47:18am |
re: #963 LoFlyer
No offence, Blue! But everytime their is a crises or disaster America is in the the thick of it and few appreciate it. I hope McCain will pull us out of the UN and create a "League of Democracies" with membership for only true democracies, social and capitalists banding togather for a common cause...
Whoa. Canada is America's staunch ally in the GWOT and is America's largest trading partner. Don't be put off by the Canadian socialists and moonbats, who are a minority up here. C'mon up for a visit sometime and I'm sure you'll agree with me.
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:47:21am |
re: #1005 swamprat
Swamprat, your post intrigues me because my entire family were once FDR/New Deal Dems, and over the past few years have begun voting for Republican or Indy candidates. What do you think can be done to reclaim your party from the Marxists and tyrants? Serious question.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:47:24am |
re: #983 laZardo
"And in return, I'll stop being such a Yankees fan.
HEY! WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?!?
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:48:39am |
{realwest}!
We're just fine and dandy, thank you very much. Her not-so-fat Royal Highness is asleep next to me.
Today's papers were really awful. I think I'll burn them just to add to my carbon footprint. Even the Washington Times sucked - a front page article on Michelle Obama's sartorial panache.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:48:53am |
re: #1015 nyc redneck
i agree w/ you.
especially given all these alliances he has w/ anti-americans who have expressly stated they want to bring our country down.
his idea of change is destruction.
And either way, he appears to be critic proof. . .which I still do not get!
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:48:58am |
re: #991 laZardo
Note that both "5 Reasons," (Obama's and McCain's) both list the main women on their candidacies as pretty much the biggest reasons to vote against them.
Chauvinists.
/[=
Margery Eagan has been drinking the Obama kool aid since the beginning and has one of the worst cases of Palin Derangment Syndrome I've ever seen.
I posted this comment:
loppyd
Marge has lost it, but I understand. An aging, uninteresting, unattractive woman will always hate somone like Sarah Palin. It must be like high school all over again for poor Marge. Funny how she plays the role of the flighty dope who can't find her way out of a paper bag on her radio show, but she slams Palin for not being intelligent. I want McCain to win because I want to feel safe and I want to keep as much of my hard-earned money as possible. But I also want him to win so people like Marge and her sisters will have to endure four - maybe eight - years of the beautiful and talented Sarah Palin.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:49:56am |
re: #1002 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Yep - saw that, and thought that the smaller arab states are sure looking for some sort of backdoor security, just in case ...
Doesn't fill me with confidence, I must say ...
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:49:58am |
re: #989 yma o hyd
Uh, yma, what the hell are you talking about - I mean, when did you switch from English to Welsh language?! I only got about two words out of that whole post and that's only cause I know what a pitch and a scrum are!
LOL!
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TXNavy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:50:03am |
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:51:09am |
re: #998 DisturbedEma
Hey after Tuesday. . .oh, wait, nevermind:)
Hi and we have our own version of a nanny state with plenty of handouts for the chosen many!
We're a welfare state just like you'll be if Obama gets his mitts on your $$$
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:51:18am |
re: #957 ziggyelman
Thanks! Just sent one!
Ziggy, I am getting a message undeleverable on 'me email. Blue your nic by clicking on "show email" in the upper tool bar and I will send you a reply! Thanks mate! I truly hate computers mates!
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:51:24am |
re: #1020 DisturbedEma
One relic of all the media-fueled BDS out there is that a large percentage of voters are willing to believe the worst about any Republican candidate
(pro-war, pro torture, anti-civil liberties, religious fanatic) and are running to the Democratic side to be saved. Little do they know.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:51:32am |
re: #997 laZardo
Not much. I'm just worried about my financial situation there is all. I have about $3,000-$4,000 in savings, most in a CD and it'll be very difficult to find even part-time work to fund my education there because they prioritize toward recently-graduated high-schoolers.
Mostly worrying and venting. Hopefully I can get through it.
/[expletive deleted] ageists...
It ain't easy. It ain't supposed to be easy.
We've all done it.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:52:17am |
re: #1003 aussiemagpie
Thanks - we can't wait, especially as the papers are only full of praise for the English, be it on club level or on international level.
I hope the Wallabies put them to the sword, I sure do!
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:52:22am |
re: #1018 realwest
Back when I was a wee lad (1998-ish, right before the Asian Crisis affected the family finance) I was fortunate enough on vacation in New York City. Apart from visiting the then-still-intact WTC, I attended a Yankees game and came home with a cap and an adorable plush Yankees panda that sits atop my shelf.
You could say they've had a special place in my heart since then - at least compared to my home-city team. Giants they ain't if their star player needs steroids to get big.
/though attention dwindled after that fateful ALCS championship...
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:52:23am |
re: #1024 TXNavy
Congrats--DFW (Richardson), served East Coast Subs back in '70s, when it wasn't our bathtub
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:53:12am |
re: #1017 Gang of One
Swamprat, your post intrigues me because my entire family were once FDR/New Deal Dems, and over the past few years have begun voting for Republican or Indy candidates. What do you think can be done to reclaim your party from the Marxists and tyrants? Serious question.
Round all 25 million of them up and eliminate them... /channeling William Ayers...
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:53:17am |
re: #1030 laZardo
...fortunate enough to vacation in NYC. PIMF.
/that's gonna be a year in the Grammar Nazi's re-education camp...
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:53:21am |
re: #993 SurferDoc
Well it'd be nice if they could, but the Restore Disk has the Windows XP Home Media on it along with the drivers they said (Gateway, that is) that I'd need. And since my motherboard APPEARS to be screwed up and don't know if my 4 gig Flash drive will back up enough, and since my CD isn't working I can't back up anything without the Flash working - unless they can install the new CDwrite then they can't do much, cause I won't let 'em "fix" anything if they don't back up my data first!
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:53:44am |
re: #990 {realwest}
Hey {loppyd}! How are you doing good looking?
Good Morning, Handsome!
I'm freezing! How are you?
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:54:01am |
re: #1028 mama winger
It ain't easy. It ain't supposed to be easy.
We've all done it.
If it were easy, it would not be as valuable, neh?
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:54:21am |
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:55:02am |
re: #1032 doriangrey
Round all 25 million of them up and eliminate them... /channeling William Ayers...
That's hard-core dude.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:55:29am |
re: #1006 jaunte
I'm convinced he is a saboteur, eager to use state power to destroy the economy. No one is this dumb.
Agree - and he certainly is not dumb.
But seeing that last report on Zomblog, I think he's been very well schooled. The communists must hug themselves with glee, to have got that far.
B0 must be defeated - he must!
I think he's actually worse than our own NuLab politicians, now that I've learned more about him, thanks to Zombie's last trhee reports.
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Blazer in RIC Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:55:34am |
Over at Newsbusters they have Obama on tape saying he will bankrupt the coal industry. If this goes mainstream this could cost him the swing states for sure.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:56:16am |
re: #997 laZardo Ageists?!
Fer cryin' out loud, you're only 21!
I'm THREE TIMES OLDER THAN YOU ARE! Sheesh.
Seriously my friend, you're a good guy and I'm sure things will work out for you, but you're gonna have to WORK hard at it -something I KNOW you can do!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:56:27am |
re: #1038 Gang of One
That's hard-core dude.
That is William Ayers plan for dealing with those who will not submit to communism...
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:56:34am |
re: #1040 Blazer in RIC
Over at Newsbusters they have Obama on tape saying he will bankrupt the coal industry. If this goes mainstream this could cost him the swing states for sure.
I just posted it at my little internet store. I get customers from a lot of those swing states.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:57:20am |
re: #1040 Blazer in RIC
gateway pundit has the transcript and someone upthread said they sent it to Drudge
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:57:30am |
re: #1016 Spare O'Lake
Whoa. Canada is America's staunch ally in the GWOT and is America's largest trading partner. Don't be put off by the Canadian socialists and moonbats, who are a minority up here. C'mon up for a visit sometime and I'm sure you'll agree with me.
Haar, my apologies to all Canadian lizards! Canadians have been America's allies for a hundred years and we appreciate the sacrifices made by Canadian troops at such places as Diepe and Caanes! But for the last thirty years Canada and all the socialist democracies have been riding on the on security provided by American forces and allowed their military to stagnate as Obama will undoubtedly do if elected. Then what will happen when America can no longer protect her allies, like Georgia two months ago?
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:58:18am |
re: #1013 realwest
GAH! I used to hate that four letter word - til I got "retired" anyway!
This time each week, I start thinking of what excuse I can use to have a sickie - then I go to bed, get up and go to work...
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:58:25am |
re: #1043 mama winger
I just posted it at my little internet store. I get customers from a lot of those swing states.
You have an internet store! I'm going there right now!
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:58:32am |
re: #1042 doriangrey
That is William Ayers plan for dealing with those who will not submit to communism...
I know. And it is hard-core. Wassup with the lemmings who STILL don't get it?
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:58:51am |
McCain - 132,445,505
B-HO - 66,666,666
McCain ends up with over 300 electoral votes.
Think positive.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:58:55am |
re: #1037 mama winger
The second verse of this one reminds me of Obama for some reason...
Well there's a new cat in town
he's got high-paid friends,
thinks he's gonna change history...
You think you know him so well,
yeah, you think he's so swell,
but he's just perpetuatin' prophecy...
/still uber-pissed that Cars lost the Oscar to some [expletive deleted] penguins...
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:59:01am |
re: #1034 realwest
Well it'd be nice if they could, but the Restore Disk has the Windows XP Home Media on it along with the drivers they said (Gateway, that is) that I'd need. And since my motherboard APPEARS to be screwed up and don't know if my 4 gig Flash drive will back up enough, and since my CD isn't working I can't back up anything without the Flash working - unless they can install the new CDwrite then they can't do much, cause I won't let 'em "fix" anything if they don't back up my data first!
They may be able to back up to their laptop before they start. Geeks know many wondrous tricks. Don't over-worry.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:59:11am |
re: #1046 LoFlyer
Then what will happen when America can no longer protect her allies, like Georgia two months ago?
They will be loved and protected by Russia, just like Georgia two months ago...
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:59:11am |
re: #1048 wahabicorridor
You have an internet store! I'm going there right now!
The link is there in my nic. Hope you enjoy it!
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:59:16am |
re: #1039 yma o hyd
I agree, and am working my email list to that end.
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Blazer in RIC Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:59:28am |
re: #1045 wahabicorridor
Yea, I sent it to Drudge, Fox all the major newspapers in Pa., and Va., for what it's worth. I urge everyone to do the same.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:59:34am |
re: #1023 realwest
Uh, yma, what the hell are you talking about - I mean, when did you switch from English to Welsh language?! I only got about two words out of that whole post and that's only cause I know what a pitch and a scrum are!
LOL!
LOL!
I bet you got more than others - its just plain rugby-speak, not Welsh, although heavily biased towards our Red Dragons ...
Aussie Magpie understands it perfectly!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 6:59:52am |
re: #1049 Gang of One
I know. And it is hard-core. Wassup with the lemmings who STILL don't get it?
The correct term is "fools".
I still think the American people have more common sense than that.
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Bobblehead Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:00:21am |
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:00:32am |
re: #1052 SurferDoc
They may be able to back up to their laptop before they start. Geeks know many wondrous tricks. Don't over-worry.
Three words for you... External Hard Drive...
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:00:46am |
re: #1019 wahabicorridor
"a front page article on Michelle Obama's sartorial panache."
OH ,Ha hahaahahahaahahahahah! ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the chuckles today! LOL!
Glad to hear you and the formerly fat beagle are doing well!
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:01:16am |
re: #1054 mama winger
The link is there in my nic. Hope you enjoy it!
I visited your site Mama, interesting stuff! Would love to wear that Hammer and Sickle Obama shirt, but I think I'd get shot and/or stabbed -- I live in NJ.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:01:24am |
re: #1041 realwest
In cities like Seattle, 21 is the new 40. D:
But thanks for the encouragement, I really appreciate it.
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Bobblehead Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:02:00am |
re: #1059 Bobblehead
Never mind. As usual lizards are on top of the story.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:02:50am |
re: #1012 lawhawk
makes me wonder what his position is on NG (another fossile fuel)...we need our revenue here in NM and the Dine have a hell of alot of it to sell...
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Blazer in RIC Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:02:51am |
re: #1059 Bobblehead
Sweet ! Malkin's got it up, which means Fox will definitley run it.
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:03:08am |
re: #1058 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
The correct term is "fools".
I still think the American people have more common sense than that.
I agree. I pray that they all become Broken Glass Republicans® and put this dog down day after tomorrow.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:03:11am |
re: #1063 laZardo
In cities like Seattle, 21 is the new 40. D:
But thanks for the encouragement, I really appreciate it.
wicked cool city.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:03:22am |
re: #1046 LoFlyer
Thou beatest thy breast too much, fair sir. First apology was received and accepted. When it comes to our past socialist governments I am with you all the way. Unfortunately it takes time to rebuild a military force after years of mismanagement.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:03:27am |
re: #1062 Gang of One
I visited your site Mama, interesting stuff! Would love to wear that Hammer and Sickle Obama shirt, but I think I'd get shot and/or stabbed -- I live in NJ.
Hahaha - You need a 2nd Amendment shirt! :)
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:03:40am |
re: #1053 doriangrey
They will be loved and protected by Russia, just like Georgia two months ago...
Arrr, you mean taken to pieces like a pie in a kindegarten classroom? Europe doesn't comprehend the difficulties of fighting an enemy that controls half of the natural gas used by Europe...
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:03:40am |
When people tell me they are voting for Obama, I ask them "Why?"
Some of them get this wild eyed look and burst into an insane long hate rage against Sarah Palin - really over the top. I just listen quietly look at them without arguing. This makes them obviously uncomfortable and they shut up. Maybe they realize they sound like idiots.
Others go into the "I hate Bush" tirade. These people seem more satisfied with their reasoning.
In either case, neither group can tell me why they are voting FOR Obama.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:03:53am |
re: #1035 loppyd
Not so bad, thanks - just a LITTLE BIT ANXIOUS about the Geek Squad and my 'puter, otherwise I'm doing ok.
Sorry to hear it's cold up by you - what's the low gonna be tonight (or, rather, what are they predicting it'll be?)?
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:04:17am |
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:04:37am |
re: #1060 doriangrey
Three words for you... External Hard Drive...
You are probably right. The last time I looked over the Geek Squad's shoulder was a couple years back and they were backing up a computer to another desktop--so I projected a little.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:04:41am |
re: #1056 Blazer in RIC
Yea, I sent it to Drudge, Fox all the major newspapers in Pa., and Va., for what it's worth. I urge everyone to do the same.
DON'T FORGET WEST VIRGINIA!
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:05:16am |
re: #1073 yah
When people tell me they are voting for Obama, I ask them "Why?"
Some of them get this wild eyed look and burst into an insane long hate rage against Sarah Palin - really over the top. I just listen quietly look at them without arguing. This makes them obviously uncomfortable and they shut up. Maybe they realize they sound like idiots.Others go into the "I hate Bush" tirade. These people seem more satisfied with their reasoning.
In either case, neither group can tell me why they are voting FOR Obama.
Because in their heart of hearts, even they don't know why.
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:05:35am |
re: #1077 wahabicorridor
And Colorado, and Wyoming, and Alaska, and Montana...
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:05:44am |
Folks, I'd just like to remind everyone that regardless of who wins on Tuesday, this country has a long history of living through good and bad Presidents. The worst that has happened under one in the last few decades, namely LBJ, is that we've ended up with some expensive and ever-expanding entitlement programs.
While I don't agree with expanding entitlement programs, Bush grew them hugely with Medicare Part D. So yet another round of growth is typical. And I think that people should remember that any Democrats that win in the Midwest and the South will be Blue Dog style and fairly conservative. I don't think the Democrats will get a rubber stamp in the Senate.
On the other hand, Redstate has a threat discussing a new civil war happening if Obama loses (or wins).
[Link: www.redstate.com...]
I'm asking all of you - please tell the people you know that this kind of paranoia is neither healthy nor helpful.
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:05:56am |
Morning, everyone. Another Sunday at home, and not at church, as I continue to try to get rid of the aftereffects of this stupid cold.
I went to the doc on Friday, and he gave me three meds. My morning pill count today? Nine.
I'm officially old.
But--keep your chin up--there are still cute things going on in the world.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:06:17am |
re: #1029 yma o hyd
Thanks - we can't wait, especially as the papers are only full of praise for the English, be it on club level or on international level.
I hope the Wallabies put them to the sword, I sure do!
We'd love to stick it to the Poms but we lost some major players through injury and we have a few rookies
But you never know...we do have ex All Black coach Robbie Deans and I reckon we're due for a major upset win
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:06:34am |
re: #1073 yah
I've had that same experience with some of my co-workers. They appear not to have heard any of the comparative experience credentials of the Republican candidates, only the negatives. This is one result of the media being in the O tank.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:06:48am |
re: #1040 Blazer in RIC
Hello - hey I reported your post to Charles in the hope that he'll make a thread out of it, but SERIOUSLY HERE, y'all ought to send it to McCain and to Palin's campaign headquarters, I bet it'll play real well in Pennsylvania.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:06:50am |
re: #1065 albusteve
I guess I just found out...
[Link: answers.yahoo.com...]
he wants to kill the entire fossile fuel industry and drive our economy into the dirt...
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:07:04am |
re: #1077 wahabicorridor
Here are the states most affected by Obama's coal industry bankruptcy policy:
ALL OF THEM.
50% of power in the nation is derived from coal fired power plants.
Some states are heavily reliant on the coal industry for jobs. That includes WV, OH, PA, WY, UT, CO, TX, MT, among others.
Source: [Link: www.eia.doe.gov...]
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Bobblehead Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:07:08am |
This has to be the cutest video I've seen in a while. Guaranteed to put a smile on your face. "You Betcha!"
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:07:20am |
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:07:43am |
re: #1079 6pat6
Also, don't forget those states that rely on coal for a large protion o fhteir power production--TX ~ 30+%
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:07:57am |
Obama supporters can NOT enunciate why they support him. Not one can tell you what B-HO has actually accomplished! They go all "Change!" on you, and smoke the Hopiate, an dbitch about Bush...but that is it. Period. A giant vacuum of ideas, or answers that mean anything.
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Blazer in RIC Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:08:09am |
re: #1077 wahabicorridor
West who, what ? Just kidding, I'm working on Ohio right now, but I'll get to W.V. shortly.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:08:24am |
re: #1087 Bobblehead
This has to be the cutest video I've seen in a while. Guaranteed to put a smile on your face. "You Betcha!"
Oh my that is wonderful!
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:08:34am |
re: #1069 loppyd
It's where I'm most likely to move if I ever get back to the States, since I have relatives there. Crazy as it sounds I really want to move back to my birth city...and you can guess where that is from my name on the e-mail.
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:09:04am |
re: #1027 jaunte
One relic of all the media-fueled BDS out there is that a large percentage of voters are willing to believe the worst about any Republican candidate
(pro-war, pro torture, anti-civil liberties, religious fanatic) and are running to the Democratic side to be saved. Little do they know.
And all because all these people have no ideas themselves, no point of view, no ideology to ground them. Hence, they are easy targets of manipulation of others.
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:09:09am |
re: #1080 windbrother
America has NEVER had a Socialist in charge with a Socialist majority in both houses of Congress, either. This "paranoia" you speak of is well-grounded, thanks.
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legalpad Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:09:20am |
re: #981 His Royal Highness
Hey - I'm serious. What ideas did we have and what happened to them? I'm not messing with you here. I will really discuss this.
I'm going to go do some things. If you are serious, you can drop some concepts on me. I have a personal history of being open to ideas new to me. I think what you might learn, is that "conservatives" come in many varieties, and we tend to back each other, honestly, before we fall for the latest version of incremental totalitarianism or someone who compromises with it.
Do not think I am accusing you of any of this. I really have little idea of what you think. In looking at your posts, you've maybe expressed two actual ideas and the rest is conversational responses.
This part is not to you highness -
BTW - Why does my user information say no links? I have posted links!
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:09:34am |
re: #1052 SurferDoc
"Don't over-worry."
So you're saying I should stop being myself then?!? LOL!
Thanks, as I said, I'll explain everything to 'em and see what they say. They have already shipped to me the new motherboard, CDplayer/writer and what I think is the new HD so we'll see!
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:10:13am |
re: #1093 BlueCanuck
Thanks, I needed that. :)
Hey, I think I have the market on cute cat stuff online. :D Well, goddessoftheclassroom helps a lot with that.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:10:38am |
re: #1065 albusteve
His cap and trade policy would hit all fossil fuels - coal, NG, oil, LNG, liquefied coal, tar sands, etc. The coal industry would be hardest hit because it's the largest segment of the power production.
Where exactly does all that electricity get produced if Obama's policies come to fruition? He doesn't ever say. That's because it is a reductionist policy - it's a zero-to-negative growth policy.
And it would increase the costs of energy to the end user because those charges will be passed on to the consumers. It's a massive tax on consumers - another in a series of taxes and indirect fees that Obama looks to impose.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:10:46am |
re: #1074 realwest
I've got my own geek squad sitting next to me on the couch right now. LOL LOL
Seriously, I hope it goes well and they get you and your 'puter straightened out.
It's get out the down puffy cold. Tonight will be in the 20's...
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:10:50am |
re: #1049 Gang of One
I know. And it is hard-core. Wassup with the lemmings who STILL don't get it?
There are two types of people in this world, basically both are intelligent. One group places their decision making emphasis on what they feel, the other on empirical evidence. Those who place their decision making emphasis on what they feel are easily deceived and manipulated.
They are not inherently evil or stupid but once deceived and manipulated they become puppets of those who have deceived and manipulated them. Because their decisions are based on emotion rather than logic and facts once they have been deceived and manipulated it becomes nearly impossible for them to escape the deception and manipulation.
With regards to Obama they are keeping perfectly in form with their decision making process, which is to decide based on feelings, not empirical evidence, hence the inability of empirical evidence to alter their decision making process.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:10:52am |
re: #1097 legalpad
BTW - Why does my user information say no links? I have posted links!
You have to post links in the spinoff section up top. It doesn't count the links you post in the comment sections of the threads.
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:11:09am |
Man made global warming, not so much
man made astroid, whole different storyYour text to link...
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:11:20am |
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:11:34am |
re: #1099 vxbush
Hey, I think I have the market on cute cat stuff online. :D Well, goddessoftheclassroom helps a lot with that.
That's because I AM cute cat stuff...
(Oh, I hope pre-Boomer Marine brat sees that!)
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:11:55am |
re: #1046 LoFlyer
Haar, my apologies to all Canadian lizards! Canadians have been America's allies for a hundred years and we appreciate the sacrifices made by Canadian troops at such places as Diepe and Caanes! But for the last thirty years Canada and all the socialist democracies have been riding on the on security provided by American forces and allowed their military to stagnate as Obama will undoubtedly do if elected. Then what will happen when America can no longer protect her allies, like Georgia two months ago?
No apologies needed. We are well aware of the current stress y'all are under, and we have pretty thick skin up here anyways.
You are correct about Canada having had a pretty easy time basking under the American security umbrella. However even before the current Conservative government came into power in 2006 the Liberals committed to sending troops to Afghanistan where our troops have been doing a fine job and have been regularly laying down their lives as well.
And under the Conservatives, recently reelected, we have actually been updating and expanding our military personnel and equipment.
Having said that, we still depend heavily on the US as our friendly neighbourhood superpower, and I hope we can continue to do so in the future.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:12:09am |
re: #1050 6pat6
McCain - 132,445,505
B-HO - 66,666,666McCain ends up with over 300 electoral votes.
Think positive.
Oh please PLEASE let this be it!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:12:26am |
re: #1106 goddessoftheclassroom
Don't worry, I will point it out to him if he doesn't see it first.
/heh heh heh
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:12:30am |
People who "feel" things are people who can be led to their own slaughter.
People who "think" about things are people who know better than to be led to their own slaughter.
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:13:20am |
Sigh. I hate seeing this.
Some in the evangelical community are now coming out and saying that Sarah Palin should not have received the VP slot because she's a woman, and that women are not allowed to lead.
Ouch. Why do I get the feeling that sometimes these people--and I count myself among them--cannot rub two brain cells and realize that if this were accurate (and I haven't yet thought through it all yet and researched it), G-d could forgive us because of the alternative?
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:13:23am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Another gorgeous fall day that's just begging us to get out and terrorize the 'hood and I'm in a culinary mood so it's some nice homemade soup to make this afternoon.
{realwest} Morning schweetie *smooochie* *huggle* Good luck with the Geeks today - I hope it's nothing serious, luv. How are you?
His Royal Asshattedness
Your arrogance is astonishing. Just STFU and STFD and you just might learn something.
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:13:37am |
re: #1105 buzzdroid
Isn't that pathetic! And this, from a "press" and a candidate that refuse to acknowledge a greater power than themselves. Sickening, really.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:13:38am |
re: #1053 doriangrey
They will be loved and protected by Russia, just like Georgia two months ago...
Georgia will receive a nice big bear hug.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:13:46am |
re: #1080 windbrother
The only problem with your statement, WindBrother, is that Johnson wasn't as far left as BHO, and didn't take advantage of a "friendly" congress. BHO will join with PelosuiReid to institute far left/socialist policies and laws, and once they sit Fed & Scotus Justices, they have changed this country for 30-40 years by standing by whatever laws were put in place within the 1st 2 yrs of the BHO regime.
I always appreciate those that hope all will be well if we lose this one, but you are wearing your Pollyanna-rose-colored glasses, if you think this "change" will be correctable after 4 years.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:14:16am |
re: #1107 Spare O'Lake
Plus, you guys got the Universal Health Care!
//the grass is curiously always greener on either side...
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:14:29am |
re: #1097 legalpad
That's referring to spinoffs. Not links within the threads.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:14:50am |
Destroying an energy-based economy by imposing bankrupting taxes an energy production and use will also destroy the status of the US as a superpower.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:00am |
re: #1082 aussiemagpie
We'd love to stick it to the Poms but we lost some major players through injury and we have a few rookies
But you never know...we do have ex All Black coach Robbie Deans and I reckon we're due for a major upset win
Well - he may well get things going, Robbie might.
We got Warren Gatland since January, another former AB, coached Ireland, got stabbed in the back, coached Wasps to triumphs, coached in NZ, and now he's ours! He's really instilled some formidable spirit, and he's getting the young 'uns into the squad. The whole of Wales just loves him, and his side-kick from Wasps, Shaun Edwards.
If dean is anything like - tehre'll be no nonsense: you don't perform, ye'r out. And that goes for training as well.
Famous anecdote:
Two top players chat during a training session, Shaun says - you do your chatting on the bench then.
And thats where they were, come the game ... taught them all a lesson ...
It'll be grand to watch one Kiwi (Dean) pit his lads against another Kiwi (Gatland)! Will make for outstanding rugby, no matter who wins.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:01am |
re: #1117 laZardo
Plus, you guys got the Universal Health Care!
//the grass is curiously always greener on either side...
And come to the US for care. . .hmmm? Not sure if that is true or not. . .
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:16am |
re: #1098 realwest
"Don't over-worry."
So you're saying I should stop being myself then?!? LOL!
Thanks, as I said, I'll explain everything to 'em and see what they say. They have already shipped to me the new motherboard, CDplayer/writer and what I think is the new HD so we'll see!
I started out as anxious as you. Then I learned to build my own and fix my own. But I did use the Geek Squad (even before they had that name) back in the day and they are good. They should be able to get you up and running. From what you have been saying, I think there might be less wrong with your computer than you think. I hope I am right.
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:18am |
re: #1097 legalpad
My profile says zero links and I've posted a couple. Not sure why that happens.
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:33am |
wizbang has picked up on the obama "make coal bankrupt" audio
[Link: wizbangblog.com...]
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:35am |
re: #1112 Miss Trixie
His Royal Asshattedness
Your arrogance is astonishing. Just STFU and STFD and you just might learn something.
He has no desire to learn. He already knows everything, just ask him!
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:47am |
re: #1119 jaunte
Destroying an energy-based economy by imposing bankrupting taxes an energy production and use will also destroy the status of the US as a superpower.
Has anyone told Penn? The Virginias?
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:50am |
re: #1106 goddessoftheclassroom
That's because I AM cute cat stuff...
(Oh, I hope pre-Boomer Marine brat sees that!)
Yes, but you have to admit, I found a lot of good stuff for you to use a few months ago!
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:15:52am |
re: #1121 DisturbedEma
Meh. The pro-Canada leftists in America always point to Canada as the model of the Universal Health Care system they want. q=
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:16:06am |
re: #1080 windbrother
Socialism is something I could live with. I won't like it. We are already halfway there.
But Obama wants to take us further, to Marxism. That I cannot live with.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:16:15am |
re: #1063 laZardo
Well assuming the Geek Squad doesn't - in spite of my shotgun best efforts to prevent them from doing so, totally fuck up my e-mail, y'all can e-mail me anytime you want to chat about things!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:16:32am |
re: #1106 goddessoftheclassroom
That's because I AM cute cat stuff...
(Oh, I hope pre-Boomer Marine brat sees that!)
/dirty lecherous leer... Here kitty kitty... ;)
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:16:34am |
re: #1100 lawhawk
His cap and trade policy would hit all fossil fuels - coal, NG, oil, LNG, liquefied coal, tar sands, etc. The coal industry would be hardest hit because it's the largest segment of the power production.
Where exactly does all that electricity get produced if Obama's policies come to fruition? He doesn't ever say. That's because it is a reductionist policy - it's a zero-to-negative growth policy.
And it would increase the costs of energy to the end user because those charges will be passed on to the consumers. It's a massive tax on consumers - another in a series of taxes and indirect fees that Obama looks to impose.
whirlygigs and wigits?...seriously he must be totaly delusional to try to sell this to the people...same with his position regarding corporate taxes...it ALL gets passed of to the consumer...why dont people understand this?...or do they and just dont care?...it's frightening
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:16:36am |
re: #1111 vxbush
Sigh. I hate seeing this.
Some in the evangelical community are now coming out and saying that Sarah Palin should not have received the VP slot because she's a woman, and that women are not allowed to lead.
Ouch. Why do I get the feeling that sometimes these people--and I count myself among them--cannot rub two brain cells and realize that if this were accurate (and I haven't yet thought through it all yet and researched it), G-d could forgive us because of the alternative?
Perhaps you could point out righteous women in the Bible who in fact DID lead. One that comes to mind is Deborah.
I will accept that women are not allowed positions of leadership in certain denominations but there is NO RESTRICTIONS on a woman's leading in secular society,
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:17:34am |
re: #1111 vxbush
Some in the evangelical community are now coming out and saying that Sarah Palin should not have received the VP slot because she's a woman, and that women are not allowed to lead.
That is a gross misinterpretation of Scripture. Leadership restrictions on women are not applicable in the secular world.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:17:44am |
re: #1107 Spare O'Lake
No apologies needed. We are well aware of the current stress y'all are under, and we have pretty thick skin up here anyways.
You are correct about Canada having had a pretty easy time basking under the American security umbrella. However even before the current Conservative government came into power in 2006 the Liberals committed to sending troops to Afghanistan where our troops have been doing a fine job and have been regularly laying down their lives as well.
And under the Conservatives, recently reelected, we have actually been updating and expanding our military personnel and equipment.
Having said that, we still depend heavily on the US as our friendly neighbourhood superpower, and I hope we can continue to do so in the future.
Haar mate! We have our differences but each has come through for each other, that is what friends do. I am hoping the world will look around and see America cannot do it all on her own, and start providing the resources and wisdom neccessary for the job.
/the UN is not the answer, time for a new direction..
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:17:49am |
re: #1133 albusteve
He's betting on the success of 50 years of a shitty government-driven educational system in this country to ensure the public's ignorance of what is going on.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:17:53am |
re: #1127 DisturbedEma
The whole country needs to hear that audio. That is as deliberate a statement of economic suicide as I've ever heard.
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:17:55am |
re: #1128 vxbush
Yes, but you have to admit, I found a lot of good stuff for you to use a few months ago!
Oh, I bow with gratitude to your expertise! I've printed out several of them on photo paper and decorated my class room door with them!
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:17:56am |
re: #1125 buzzdroid
So has Instapundit, who links back to Gateway Pundit. That pretty much means that the blogosphere will be buzzing the rest of the day with that story.
If Drudge goes with it, it could be a Monday morning surprise. The media has to bury the story (which it invariably will do, or claim that McCain's own policies will somehow be just as bad - though McCain never says that his intention is to bankrupt the coal industry, which is precisely what Obama does).
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:18:21am |
re: #1011 runrabbitrun
That's exactly what has been most on my mind lately too, and I've been speaking up about to other voters.
Obama claims his compassion leads him to want to help the weakest of this nation, but the folks he refers to are generally able to save themselves, even if it involves a lot of work and effort. The tiniest infants gasping for their lives- or even a few hours of it, God willing in less pain or discomfort - are totally helpless. Lord save us from that kind of hypocritical compassion: if you can't vote, you don't get any sympathy from Obama.
i heard a young woman on one of the radio talk shows several wks. ago. she had such a beautiful clear voice. she was a survivor of a botched saline abortion.
her teenage mother at nearly 7 1/2 mos. into her pregnancy decided she didn't want the baby. despite the procedure to eliminate the child, she survived. a perfect infant . no deformities, no mental deficiency. somehow, she was given care. and went on to be adopted by loving parents. and now is a spokeswoman for the rights of infants born alive from botched abortions.
if obama can find the right of abortion in the constitution, i just don't get why this learned constitutional scholar can't find a right to life for an infant born alive. it is breathing on it's own, it is clearly a human that deserves basic human rights. obama is committed to letting it die.
he needs to meet the young woman who survived the abortion and survived his intentions for her after she was born.
his calloused approach this is issue really shows what bad character and judgment he has. he does not see life as sacred. that doesn't fit his agenda.
he is not fit to lead our country.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:18:21am |
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:18:37am |
Just have to show you this!
I hope you can watch the video - made me cry ...
That hopefully shows all those separatists that supporting the Armed Forces is beyond politics, even in Northern Ireland.
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:18:53am |
re: #1119 jaunte
Destroying an energy-based economy by imposing bankrupting taxes an energy production and use will also destroy the status of the US as a superpower.
while also raising an obama paramilitary force to fight the U.S. military when things go pear shaped...
[Link: mrrockytop.blogspot.com...]
[Link: peakoiljournal.com...]
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:18:54am |
re: #1129 laZardo
Notice how they are all rich? I would love to see them wait four hours in an emergency room with a swelling appendix, or two hours with chest pain. Oh, oh, even better. Being put on a waiting list for a specialist that's 8 months long.
/yes those figures are accurate
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:19:31am |
re: #1140 goddessoftheclassroom
Oh, I bow with gratitude to your expertise! I've printed out several of them on photo paper and decorated my class room door with them!
Goddess - if you want to send me an email I can send you my link to my lolcat 'store'. I seem to have lost your email addy.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:19:34am |
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:19:36am |
re: #1132 doriangrey
/dirty lecherous leer... Here kitty kitty... ;)
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:03am |
re: #1101 loppyd
In the 20's?! The 20's?!?! Oh I am SO GLAD I live in the South!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:06am |
Gota run mates, Ziggy, I will catch up with you somwhere, somehow!
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:24am |
re: #1141 lawhawk
So has Instapundit, who links back to Gateway Pundit. That pretty much means that the blogosphere will be buzzing the rest of the day with that story.
If Drudge goes with it, it could be a Monday morning surprise. The media has to bury the story (which it invariably will do, or claim that McCain's own policies will somehow be just as bad - though McCain never says that his intention is to bankrupt the coal industry, which is precisely what Obama does).
where are the coal states?
just wondering. isnt pennsylvania a swing state? or ohio?
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:27am |
re: #1040 Blazer in RIC
Over at Newsbusters they have Obama on tape saying he will bankrupt the coal industry. If this goes mainstream this could cost him the swing states for sure.
It's a good story, has already been mentioned by several commenters and it's in the links (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/link/104313).
We need to publicize this.
Digg here
Buzz here
Also submit to Drudge the YouTube link:
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:32am |
re: #1134 goddessoftheclassroom
Perhaps you could point out righteous women in the Bible who in fact DID lead. One that comes to mind is Deborah.
I will accept that women are not allowed positions of leadership in certain denominations but there is NO RESTRICTIONS on a woman's leading in secular society,
Except the author I read this morning (and I would rather not post the link to it, although I will if strongly pushed) said that Deborah did not lead, but was a prophetess. The actual judge at that time was Barak, but he asked her to come with him when he fought.
It doesn't say that she led the fighting, but that she was present. And reading that section, I have to agree with his analysis. But when I look at Proverbs 31, the woman there does a whole lot more than just manage a house. And, as I am a Christian, I want to review what the New Testament says as well.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:38am |
re: #1148 loppyd
Hey mama winger!
Nice to see you. :)
Hey dere, lopps! How are your plans coming along for the Big Day?
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:46am |
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:20:59am |
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:21:10am |
re: #1140 goddessoftheclassroom
Oh, I bow with gratitude to your expertise! I've printed out several of them on photo paper and decorated my class room door with them!
Excellent.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:21:22am |
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:22:42am |
re: #1159 windbrother
Oh for the love of pete.
Alaskan Nationalist Party.
Book banning.
Troubling flaws.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:22:53am |
re: #1138 6pat6
of course but I just dont want to believe it's as easy as that...maybe we actually outnumbered and surrounded...I mean the entire dismissle of common sense?...good lord
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:23:01am |
re: #1130 yah
Socialism is something I could live with. I won't like it. We are already halfway there.
But Obama wants to take us further, to Marxism. That I cannot live with.
When you say that ... just think about how one will lead to another ... we cannot let them start ...
"Democracy is indispensable to Socialism."
--- Vladimir Lenin
"Democracy is the sure road to Socialism."
--- Karl Marx
"The goal of Socialism is Communism."
--- Vladimir Lenin
"Socialism leads to Communism."
--- Karl Marx
"Peace is the elimination of all opposition to Socialism"
--- Lenin/Marx
"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
-- Karl Marx and Frederich Engels, The Communist Manifesto 1888 edition
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:23:16am |
re: #1157 mama winger
Hey dere, lopps! How are your plans coming along for the Big Day?
No big decisions yet. Waiting for a quote from a place we looked at a few weeks ago. And trying to decide on the size...I'm leaning towards smaller.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:23:23am |
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:23:32am |
re: #1120 yma o hyd
Well - he may well get things going, Robbie might.
We got Warren Gatland since January, another former AB, coached Ireland, got stabbed in the back, coached Wasps to triumphs, coached in NZ, and now he's ours! He's really instilled some formidable spirit, and he's getting the young 'uns into the squad. The whole of Wales just loves him, and his side-kick from Wasps, Shaun Edwards.
If dean is anything like - tehre'll be no nonsense: you don't perform, ye'r out. And that goes for training as well.Famous anecdote:
Two top players chat during a training session, Shaun says - you do your chatting on the bench then.
And thats where they were, come the game ... taught them all a lesson ...It'll be grand to watch one Kiwi (Dean) pit his lads against another Kiwi (Gatland)! Will make for outstanding rugby, no matter who wins.
Goodness, this is wonderful talking rugby on LGF it must seem like code to some :-)
We're looking forward to the game next week - yes to see how Gatland has revitalised your team - but not enough to win of course!
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:23:33am |
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:23:57am |
re: #1159 windbrother
If you think those are problems in view of the Obama energy policy, the phrase 'straining at gnats' comes to mind.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:24:09am |
re: #1160 laZardo
I wish they were, the first two examples were myself. The last is a friend of mine.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:24:12am |
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:24:18am |
re: #1163 mama winger
Oh for the love of pete.
Alaskan Nationalist Party.
Book banning.
Troubling flaws.
You beat me to it, Mama. Thanks.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:24:21am |
Nitpicking Sarah Palin will not bring us closer to the goalposts. In contrast, Biden is a frakkin' disaster--but neither is running for the number one spot.
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:24:30am |
re: #1155 Spirit93
It's a good story, has already been mentioned by several commenters and it's in the links (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/link/104 313).
We need to publicize this.
Digg here
Buzz here
Also submit to Drudge the YouTube link: [Link: www.youtube.com...]
Sorry, I don't know what went wrong with the digg link. Try this.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:24:36am |
re: #1112 Miss Trixie
Hey {Miss Trixie} *Smooches* back atcha gorgeous!
Thanks for the good wishes with the Geek Squad - I look at it in a positive light - if I get a NEW HardDrive, a NEW motherboard and a NEW CD, then I basically have a NEW computer and it's all under warranty! LOL!
Hope you're well and that Lil Miss isn't out terrorizing the 'hood just yet - if it's as cold in Boston as loppyd said, you must be freezing your tu...uh, butt off! Sure you don't wanna come down so I can warm it you up?
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:03am |
re: #1169 yma o hyd
Me too!
Thanks for that link.(I adore your and pbmb's exchanges!)
I'm so glad! They're one of the highlights of my day!
Once someone unacquainted with the jokes jumped to my defense--it really was sweet!
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:08am |
re: #1159 windbrother
How do we even know you live in the US? Who the heck are you anyway? Why have you been registered so long and have only popped up with your BS now?
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:09am |
re: #1159 windbrotherGeez, man, which KoolAde have you been drinking--same as Peggy, Chris, HRH?
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:13am |
Why would we even need something like that?
/it's the only way he'll be able to grab all the guns
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StinkHammer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:13am |
Things appear to be getting more tense as election day nears -- tempers shortening, patience thinning, etc.
At the Obama Command Center located beneath my building there were a few heated confrontations last night between Obamanots and some passing dissenters. (Of course, the fact that there are a couple drinking establishments on the same block doesn't help to nullify the conflict...)
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:17am |
re: #1080 windbrother
I used to agree with you, I'm on record as saying I wasn't voting for the faux conservative...but time marched on and I learned a little about the man wishing to turn our country into the ussr with him in charge. did you listen to his 2001 interview with public radio? It is a little more important that repubs vs democrats this time. precisely because he will have a democrat majority and he's about as far left as you can possible go these changes could be lasting and seriously impact our safety as a country. Just remember, Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:18am |
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:20am |
re: #1100 lawhawk
Well, please remember that John McCain supports cap and trade. No matter who gets elected there will be penalties for coal, whether in cap-and-trade or a direct carbon tax. Even Kansas under Sebalias has banned new coal plants. It is *not* the favored power source going forward unless CO2 capture and sequestration (CCS) technology evolves rapidly. Even McCain is pushing for rapidly increasing renewables, nuclear, and all sources across the board.
Coal is bad for any number of reasons - you are aware that the amount of radioactive material (heavy radionuclides, e.g. thorium / uranium) released per year by coal plants in the US exceeds that released by Chernobyl? And also the high mercury emissions?
Coal may be *necessary* but it is not *desirable*.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:25:47am |
re: #1154 buzzdroid
Here are the coal states in visual form. Here's their production tallies in tabular form.
The battleground states mesh well, including OH, PA, and CO. It also includes much of the heartland, and many other states.
As I have repeatedly noted above, every state is affected by this inane policy because so much power is derived from coal. 50% worth. Everyone would see their energy bills rise exponentially as a result of this plan because the utilities would not simply absorb the tax, but pass it on to the customers.
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:26:28am |
re: #1154 buzzdroid
where are the coal states?
just wondering. isnt pennsylvania a swing state? or ohio?
Map of Coal States:
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:26:59am |
re: #1159 windbrother
I fear for all of us if she comes to power. She has a well documented history of trying to drive people that she does not approve of away and use official resources on such wastes of time as book banning.
So tell me what you think of Obama's history of using the Allinsky methods to eliminate political opponents.
Tell me what you think of Obama's denial of past associations with radicals and terrorists.
Tell me what you think of Obama's party using government offices to investigate and ruin private citizens who ask uncomfortable questions.
Tell me what you think of a CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE.
Tell me what you think of Obama's record stating that he does not favor guns in the hands of private citizens.
Tell me what you think about letting children born alive being denied medical care.
For starters. Then we can go from there.
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:27:29am |
re: #1185 windbrother
This guy is registered 4 + years, not a peep out of him, then comes on with all this Eeyore BS on Nov. 2, 2008, after sleeping for all that time.
Moby.
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ciaospirit Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:27:35am |
Central Ohio lizards. Sarah Palin is at Rickenbacker today. Doors open at 2:00.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:27:38am |
re: #1167 wahabicorridor
Hey! I'm buying your apron now!
Ohh! I do so hope you enjoy it! Thanks so much!
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:27:53am |
re: #1159 windbrother
Todd Palin has done his own events. You are woefully ill informed.
And 0bama's a flat out marxist.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:28:17am |
re: #1185 windbrother
Coal may be bad, but there are ways to make it better. I just can't believe that you are still falling for that whole CO2 greenhouse gas thing.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:28:21am |
when it comes down to we can all meet up down on the bayou with these guys...
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:28:51am |
Pflouffe (sp?) leaves a slime trail when he slithers.
I have a hard time deciding which I loathe more, him or Axelrod.
/keeping in mind that Obama himself is a whole 'nother level of evil.
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Bobblehead Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:28:59am |
Powerline has the video of McCain's "infomercial" from SNL last night. Amusing. Interesting that Republicans are the only ones to have a sense of humor about themselves.
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ClosetConservative Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:29:10am |
Good morning, folks. As soon as I finish my breakfast I'm off to the McCain headquarters to make calls. I'm tellin' ya that we can win New Hampshire. The responses over the phone are incredibly positive. Gallup can go fuck himself, the only poll that matters is the poll on Nov. 4th.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:29:24am |
re: #1159 windbrother
Blimey - another one!
Just as predicted: they'll come out of the woodworks in the last 72 hours to try and spread doom, gloom and despondency.
So you think its better to vote for that empty suit, do you?
Because McCain is ... old! And Sarah was spoofed!
Very very pertinent arguments!
NOT!
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:29:25am |
re: #1185 windbrother
Unless and until someone comes up with another power source that is as cheap as coal, and can run 24/7/365, coal will remain king not only here in the US, but around the world.
Opposition to nuclear prevents new nukes from being built - and the waste issue is a massive deterrent, particularly because Harry Reid is blocking the opening of Yucca Mt.
The amount of smokestack emissions from coal can be reduced over time with technologies, but the fact is that there is no viable alternatives, and Obama's policies and statements clearly intend to bankrupt the industry. McCain isn't nearly as vociferous in his desire to destroy the industry, and he too supports the junk science of cap and trade. However, he's pushing for multiple alternatives in addition to taxing the coal industry.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:29:26am |
re: #1195 Sharmuta
Good morning Sharmuta, how are you this fine November morning.
/get out the bats, it's going to be a long week.
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StinkHammer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:29:40am |
re: #1189 mama winger
So tell me what you think of Obama's history of using the Allinsky methods to eliminate political opponents.
Tell me what you think of Obama's denial of past associations with radicals and terrorists.
Tell me what you think of Obama's party using government offices to investigate and ruin private citizens who ask uncomfortable questions.
Tell me what you think of a CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE.
Tell me what you think of Obama's record stating that he does not favor guns in the hands of private citizens.
Tell me what you think about letting children born alive being denied medical care.
For starters. Then we can go from there.
WOW -- both barrels, Mama! Let 'em fly!
;^)
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:29:53am |
re: #1181 Killian Bundy
Why would we even need something like that?
/it's the only way he'll be able to grab all the guns
Yes, i believe that is the goal here. Establish a Citizen Militia, then restrict gun ownership to only those in the militia, using the language of the 2nd Amendment as justification for confiscation from private individuals.
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:30:01am |
re: #1163 mama winger
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:30:16am |
re: #1165 JacksonTn
"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
-- Karl Marx and Frederich Engels, The Communist Manifesto 1888 edition
I admit that I have read The Manifesto for a project in Political Science class (resulted in a PowerPoint presentation styled like the intro Borat, funny stuff).
I will have to add here that in response to the bourgeoisie's criticisms that Communism will "destroy public property," they accused the bourgeoisie of pretty much laying the concept of "private property" to waste through the ownership practices of the day:
You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society.
In one word, you reproach us with intending to do away with your property. Precisely so; that is just what we intend.
SNIP
You must, therefore, confess that by “individual” you mean no other person than the bourgeois, than the middle-class owner of property. This person must, indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible.
Hence, "spread the wealth."
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:30:30am |
re: #1111 vxbush
Do you have something to support that? It sounds like you just made that up out of thin air.
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:30:37am |
re: #1176 realwest
Hey {Miss Trixie} *Smooches* back atcha gorgeous!
Thanks for the good wishes with the Geek Squad - I look at it in a positive light - if I get a NEW HardDrive, a NEW motherboard and a NEW CD, then I basically have a NEW computer and it's all under warranty! LOL!
Hope you're well and that Lil Miss isn't out terrorizing the 'hood just yet - if it's as cold in Boston as loppyd said, you must be freezing your tu...uh, butt off! Sure you don't wanna come down so I can warmityou up?
*stands akimbo*
*impatiently tapping foot*
*glances at wristwatch*
Well? I'm waaaitinnng.
:D
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ClosetConservative Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:30:38am |
There is no evidence that Sarah Palin ever tried to have any books banned, period. She simply asked the librarian if there was a procedure in place for such an action. Hell, she probably got a request from some helicopter mommy who objected to a positive book about the American military.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:31:06am |
re: #1207 windbrother
Two extremely minor points, in the face of a deliberate plan to bankrupt the power producers of the nation.
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Bobblehead Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:31:17am |
re: #1174 SurferDoc
This is a no bad talking Sarah zone! You betcha!
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loppyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:31:49am |
re: #1201 ClosetConservative
Good morning, folks. As soon as I finish my breakfast I'm off to the McCain headquarters to make calls. I'm tellin' ya that we can win New Hampshire. The responses over the phone are incredibly positive. Gallup can go fuck himself, the only poll that matters is the poll on Nov. 4th.
Good for you! I went to Stratham, NH yesterday and will be doing more super secret campaign stuff tomorrow night.
The mood was great yesterday- upbeat and positive!
Thanks for helping out!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:31:50am |
re: #1207 windbrother
Please ignore the troll, folks. GAZE into his eyes.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:31:56am |
re: #1209 Sharmuta
Doing good. A little tired though. I think I will let the day shift handle this new infestation though. :)
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:32:10am |
re: #1197 albusteve
when it comes down to we can all meet up down on the bayou with these guys...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Great! Makes me want to pinch a tail and suck a head! New Orleans Native here ...Tennessee farmer now ...
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:32:23am |
re: #1206 mama winger
Yes, i believe that is the goal here. Establish a Citizen Militia, then restrict gun ownership to only those in the militia, using the language of the 2nd Amendment as justification for confiscation from private individuals.
And that sparks the 2nd Civil War...(or revolution, depending on your look at the terminology).
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:32:24am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications.
I am Sarah Palin.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:32:49am |
re: #1168 aussiemagpie
Goodness, this is wonderful talking rugby on LGF it must seem like code to some :-)
We're looking forward to the game next week - yes to see how Gatland has revitalised your team - but not enough to win of course!
Ahem - we only won the Grand Slam this year, and beat England at Twickers, for the first time in 27 years ... old men were crying in the streets of Wales.
And that game is a perfect example for not ever giving up until the final whistle is blown - we were behind, 3 : 16, and beat them 24 : 16, in the last quarter of the second half.
Never give up!
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:32:53am |
re: #1164 albusteve
I mean the entire dismissle of common sense?...good lord
Look at who is voting for B-HO...that should indicate that not everybody HAS common sense. Some are just plain stupid.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:33:05am |
re: #1216 Bobblehead
This is a no bad talking Sarah zone! You betcha!
/then the last thread must be the Forbidden Zone
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:33:12am |
re: #1159 windbrother
Fuck off, sleeper.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:33:23am |
re: #1207 windbrother
Uh- nice deflection. Let's discuss 0bama first, shall we? What do you think of his philosophy so closely resembling that of the Weather Underground?
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:33:32am |
re: #1225 mama winger
I am Sarah Palin.
I want to BE Sarah Palin. I know I couldn't have borne all the personal attacks as she has.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:33:38am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
Troll.
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ClosetConservative Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:33:59am |
re: #1207 windbrother
Weren't Michelle Obama's comments about 'first time ever proud American' deemed irrelevant earlier in the year by our Dear Leader?
And weren't Sasha and Malia declared off limits by the same left that skewered Bristol Palin?
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:34:06am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
dont be rediculous...your gonna ruin my sunday morning vibe man...
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musicman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:34:06am |
Who is the guy in the Zoot Suit and see if you can spot Barney Frank.
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:34:37am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
Windbrother...a member of the Fuckowee Indians...name translated to one who farts from the mouth.
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legalpad Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:34:41am |
re: #1162 BlueCanuck
No problem. I don't just hunt Boojums and Snarks.
/renaissance man I am.
Well, I guess I hunt them sometimes. But not if they won't stick their conceptual head out. It's just that when the Mad Hatter pretends to be rational, I enjoy boxing him in.
bbl
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:34:42am |
re: #1185 windbrother
Coal may be *necessary* but it is not *desirable*.
As the bard said, there is the rub... Those of us who are conservative understand the consequences of a society as large as ours not having the energy to operate. Hospitals do not function without electricity, neither do fire departments or airports. The manufacturing industry cannot manufacture, the entertainment industry cannot entertain.
A small agrarian society can survive without electricity, when 300 million people can not get or preserve food or water the death toll is staggering beyond comprehension.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:34:49am |
re: #1225 mama winger
Let me add, thatSarah Palin is eminently more qualified than the Democrat presidential candidate because she is a self-made woman, a sincere and patriotic American who wants the best for the country. Not like the other.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:34:50am |
*leans back with bowl of popcorn* The BBQ is still set up, and the coals are nice and red.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:35:30am |
re: #1141 lawhawk
Hi lawhawk! Heard on Fox and Friends this morning - from two Dems and two Republicans that the race is over - NOTHING could change the outcome on Tuesday and McCain is gonna get killed so we should all make nice to President elect Obama.
FUCK THAT. IF Obama wins (which I still doubt) I intend to fight that S.O.B. for BUYING this election, reneging on more pledges and lying more than any politician I've ever seen INCLUDING LBJ, and for trying to SCREW MY COUNTRY. I'm SERIOUS. More often than not we've been playing "D" with Bush in the WH - now with the Dems in control - IF they win Control - we get to go on OFFENSE and they REALLY have no idea what they are in for. They can't but help disappoint their supporters cause they've promised everything to everyone, they will raise taxes, there will be - regrettably - another attack on the US and I intend to fight that sonofabitch all the way - action for action and word for word until we get America back.
AND YES, I'm taking names and payback is gonna be a bitch.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:36:23am |
re: #1223 JacksonTn
Great! Makes me want to pinch a tail and suck a head! New Orleans Native here ...Tennessee farmer now ...
native in my heart only...pinch and suck!...hahaha
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:36:25am |
re: #1231 goddessoftheclassroom
I want to BE Sarah Palin. I know I couldn't have borne all the personal attacks as she has.
Yes, you stated it much better than I did.
Yesterday at my local RNC we got a phone call from her. I was thrilled.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:36:27am |
Palin-hatred is my new litmus test for idiocy.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:36:45am |
re: #1238 yesandno
Windbrother...a member of the Fuckowee Indians...name translated to one who farts from the mouth.
LOL! Nasty but funny.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:36:48am |
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StinkHammer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:36:54am |
re: #1207 windbrother
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
On the contrary: As the husband of the VICE-President (if elected) how the fuck IS it relevent? How is Todd Palin going to be at all responsible for crafting legistlation?
Paranoid horseshit.
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rain of lead Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:37:00am |
and now for some football talk
the undefeated 7-0 Tennesse Titans will take on the Green Bay Packers
today and the cheeseheads will be turned into cheese soup!
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:37:11am |
weather underground - we'll kill 25 million americans
[Link: ginacobb.typepad.com...]
fits in to the bankrupting the coal industry - with the resultant chaos requiring an obama civillian paramilitary force that is LOYAL TO HIM...
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:37:12am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
Ffs - that old story!
How qualified is Obama then?
Just give us some examples, do ...
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:37:20am |
Troll "windbrother"
no longer even exists
! Wow, a "non-poster"! How Obamian 1984 is that! Cool!
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:37:39am |
re: #1242 BlueCanuck
*leans back with bowl of popcorn* The BBQ is still set up, and the coals are nice and red.
Yee-hawww! I'll take a MR filet of beef, please.
:D
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:37:52am |
re: #1208 laZardo
Hence, "spread the wealth."
mugabe started to "share the wealth" and take the private property in the 60's.
zimbabwe is a dead country now.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:37:54am |
re: #1244 realwest
RW, A man after my own heart--I will not go quietly into that long good night without a fight.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:38:30am |
I am told that it is now time to go rake the leaves.
BBL.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:38:31am |
re: #1243 Miss Trixie
BTW - new avatar test ... :D
verrry cute - but I vote for Darth and the yorkie
So what kind of soup are we making today? (I think I might rustle up some hlushki)
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:38:36am |
re: #1236 musicman
Whenever I hear ISM...I think of my old alma-mater.
/malt shops sound so swell though...
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:38:37am |
re: #1156 vxbush
Except the author I read this morning (and I would rather not post the link to it, although I will if strongly pushed) said that Deborah did not lead, but was a prophetess. The actual judge at that time was Barak, but he asked her to come with him when he fought.
It doesn't say that she led the fighting, but that she was present. And reading that section, I have to agree with his analysis. But when I look at Proverbs 31, the woman there does a whole lot more than just manage a house. And, as I am a Christian, I want to review what the New Testament says as well.
Prophetess= visionary?
Leadership quality? Maybe you could sell the VP as handmaiden role? Man, I just spit up typing that! Wish my moonbat PDS co workers could see themselves as being just as asshattery!
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:38:38am |
re: #1212 spypeach
I'm asking two legitimate concerns here. There are several people I know that are still undecided that are friends of my parents that I'd really like to convince to vote for McCain.
Those are legitimate questions that have been asked of me and I'd like to know how to answer them.
And for the record, I'm not a troll. That generally requires: a) ad hominem personal attacks; b) gratuitous baiting; and c) extreme disrespect for everyone else's viewpoints.
And I can assure you that I'm neither inarticulate nor trying to bait anyone on this thread.
If you'll see my first post, it's thanking everyone here for being civil. Charles has always, consistently, tried to keep things civil here and banned posters that advocated extreme views.
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lori lane Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:38:45am |
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:39:10am |
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lori lane Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:39:57am |
OT: How does a Lizzard go about making her nic blue?
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:40:05am |
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:40:07am |
re: #1250 mama winger
I LOVE IT !
Hiya, toots!
Cracks me up every time! How are you and how's your pupster?
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:40:09am |
The Jackasses have sure been worried about Palin's qualifications to be VPOTUS over B-HO's qualifications to be the POTUS...I have always found that amusing and troublesome at the same time.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:40:10am |
re: #1244 realwest
I with you Real... after watching them defame my guy for 8 years, undermine my country and the war we are in... I have no desire to "just accept" their POS POTUS and be nice.
What was it? "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" they kept telling us... well reap the whirlwind, assholes.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:40:56am |
What the fuck is it with the mobys today?
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:40:57am |
re: #1269 lori lane
Simple. Add email information or website information in your info (my account, or where you post).
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:40:58am |
re: #1265 windbrother
Those aren't legitimate questions unless you trek in Koz & huffie's poitings.
Get real.
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:41:19am |
I hate it when Republicans get on T.V. and act like that, they could learn a little about loyalty from the dems. Why don't they say hey get out and vote we can win this thing, if not they just need to STFU.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:41:36am |
"The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group."
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:41:41am |
re: #1252 StinkHammer
On the contrary: As the husband of the VICE-President (if elected) how the fuck IS it relevent? How is Todd Palin going to be at all responsible for crafting legistlation?
Paranoid horseshit.
HIS SON IS FIGHTING FOR THE US IN IRAQ-KISS MY ASS WIND BROTHER!
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:41:51am |
re: #1189 mama winger
Hi {mama} - I'd suggest a GAZE might be in order for our misinformed or deliberating misinforming windhorse, ya know?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:42:01am |
re: #1269 lori lane
Just above the comment box there a spot in enter your email address, then check the box for "show email".
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:42:09am |
re: #1265 windbrother
Wait- you're trying to convince people to vote for McCain and you're letting them get away with redefining the discussion to Sarah Palin?! This isn't about Sarah Palin. This is about 0bama. When you allow people to deflect from the real question, you're going to lose the argument every time.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:42:30am |
re: #1272 Miss Trixie
Hiya, toots!
Cracks me up every time! How are you and how's your pupster?
I'm doing great! And my pup is gloriously glorious. Everyday he makes me laugh. I could not ask for more.
Dogs are a gift from God, eh?
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StinkHammer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:42:38am |
re: #1274 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" they kept telling us...
And an absolutely ridiculous statement in and of itself, at that (one crafted by the Marxist "historian" Howard Zinn, I believe). Giving one's life in service to one's country is the highest form of patriotism.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:42:54am |
re: #1282 realwest
Hi {mama} - I'd suggest a GAZE might be in order for our misinformed or deliberating misinforming windhorse, ya know?
Ya, I tink so to.
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:16am |
[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]
amazing how the "25 million americans dead" never made it to the mainstream media..
now imagine if some associate of McCain had said that he wanted to eliminate all the black people in america. do you think that the MSM would have ignored it?
of course not.
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:30am |
re: #1284 Sharmuta
Wait- you're trying to convince people to vote for McCain and you're letting them get away with redefining the discussion to Sarah Palin?! This isn't about Sarah Palin. This is about 0bama. When you allow people to deflect from the real question, you're going to lose the argument every time.
Sarah Palin's got 'em frothing at the mouth for some reason.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:31am |
re: #1273 6pat6
The Jackasses have sure been worried about Palin's qualifications to be VPOTUS over B-HO's qualifications to be the POTUS...I have always found that amusing and troublesome at the same time.
Be careful who you call a jackass.
/one thread down, don't go there
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:37am |
re: #1268 Sharmuta
Excellent suggestion. What should we do for a side?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:40am |
Note to self: keep my tea in a vacuum flask thingy and have a spare wireless network thingy on hand.
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:41am |
re: #1275 wahabicorridor
What the fuck is it with the mobys today?
trying to demoralize us.
fat chance. LOL
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:45am |
re: #1262 wahabicorridor
verrry cute - but I vote for Darth and the yorkie
So what kind of soup are we making today? (I think I might rustle up some hlushki)
Hi hon. *mwah* I've got some leftover roast beef and I'm going to roast some barley so I can make beef & barley, loaded with root veggies, spiked with garlic and sweetened with a little tomato.
Hlushki? *blink*blink* What's that?
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6pat6 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:45am |
The Leftards have things so messed up in their own minds. Delusion, paranoia, and the inability to grasp the truth must be difficult things to live with. Plus, Libs NEVER smile. Unless, someone on the Right is in distress or dies, then they whoop it up, drinking their KoolAid...
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:49am |
re: #1205 StinkHammer
Did I ever say that I was an Obama supporter? No.
Now you're attacking me for just asking questions? And several posters have already called me a troll or told me to "fuck off."
There are, in fact, such things as independent voters. Of which I am one.
And for the record, I do NOT approve of many things in Obama's platform. "Civilian National Security Force" indeed. And he generally concerns me.
I'm not going to defend him because that's not why I'm here.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:43:50am |
re: #1274 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
well reap the whirlwind, assholes.
You got that right. But I've been giving some thought to practicalities - and I think we're looking a a need for some $$$. 'Cuz we're gonna need lawyers.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:44:30am |
re: #1270 lawhawk
Don't get saucy with me! :)
ROTFLMAO... Sharmuta makes her Bearnaise sauce with lots of habanero peppers.
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:44:37am |
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:45:01am |
re: #1265 windbrother
I'm asking two legitimate concerns here. There are several people I know that are still undecided that are friends of my parents that I'd really like to convince to vote for McCain.
Those are legitimate questions that have been asked of me and I'd like to know how to answer them.
And for the record, I'm not a troll. That generally requires: a) ad hominem personal attacks; b) gratuitous baiting; and c) extreme disrespect for everyone else's viewpoints.
And I can assure you that I'm neither inarticulate nor trying to bait anyone on this thread.
If you'll see my first post, it's thanking everyone here for being civil. Charles has always, consistently, tried to keep things civil here and banned posters that advocated extreme views.
ummm if you had even a basic knowledge of the accusation toward Palin, you would know that having a son in the US armed forces would make folly of anyone who would make such a claim. . .seperatists do not offer up such service. . .they disavow the control of the US government over them. . .and would not allow any of their number to fight for a government they did not see having authority.
So, for you your undecided friends. . .let them chew that over. . .and if they persist in such ignorance, tell them to kiss MY ass:)
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lori lane Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:45:18am |
re: #1276 lawhawk
Thx! I tried that one time and it didn't work. I'll give it another go!
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aussiemagpie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:45:34am |
re: #1226 yma o hyd
Ahem - we only won the Grand Slam this year, and beat England at Twickers, for the first time in 27 years ... old men were crying in the streets of Wales.
And that game is a perfect example for not ever giving up until the final whistle is blown - we were behind, 3 : 16, and beat them 24 : 16, in the last quarter of the second half.
Never give up!
It will be a terrific series no doubt - good on Wales, and I think your team is ranked higher than England? I can imagine the emotion after beating the Poms - it's a wonderful feeling!
Being long time Wallabies supporters, we never give up and we'll stick with our boys
Thanks for this nice rugby chat - it's bedtime for me now as it's almost 3am - and I'm due at work in 6 hours!
Goodnight and see you here later
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:45:47am |
re: #1279 Mich-again
Your obsessed with her aren't you.
sinister and malevolent as well...very spooky these people...hard to believe you sat next to one at the game yesterday or whatever...I cant help but stereotype "them"...
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:46:02am |
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:46:07am |
re: #1286 StinkHammer
And an absolutely ridiculous statement in and of itself, at that (one crafted by the Marxist "historian" Howard Zinn, I believe). Giving one's life in service to one's country is the highest form of patriotism.
Actually being attributed to Jefferson accroding to the bumper of my moonbat coworker's car. . .
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:46:23am |
re: #1285 mama winger
I'm doing great! And my pup is gloriously glorious. Everyday he makes me laugh. I could not ask for more.
Dogs are a gift from God, eh?
They truly are!
And they can indeed make you laugh even when you're feeling very very blue.
{to all the Lizard dogs and dog owners}
{and to the cats and cat owners, natch!}
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:46:41am |
re: #1213 Miss Trixie
Watcha mean you're waiting?!? The invitation was for you to come down here where it's gonna be in the 70's today!
COME ON DOWN!
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ClosetConservative Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:47:00am |
I apologize if I sound paranoid here, but perhaps we all ought to stop for a minute and consider the possibility of an Obama presidency.
He says that he'll cut military spending and slash our missile defense systems. On the other side of the world, Iran is building nukes that, in 6 years of development, could strike the United States.
He says that he'll hamstring and bankrupt the coal industry, while they produce so much of our power. He won't allow the opening of new nuclear plants and will instead run after utopian energy options.
He says that he'll re-regulate our economy, when it was really his party that screwed us over anyways. Freddie and Fannie got forced into buying up all the subprime loans by people like Bill Clinton and Maxine Walters who believe house ownership is a birthright.
He says he'll renegotiate free trade agreements. We've already seen the results of that as Canada just signed a trade agreement with France to prepare for an Obama presidency. Protectionism hasn't been tried since Herbert Hoover, and now isn't a great time to try it. The fact of the matter is that as long as Chinese labor is cheap and their currency is hugely inflated, we can never close the trade gap no matter what regulation we try.
He says he'll freeze foreclosures for 90 days. When all those foreclosed houses hit the market at once at the end of the 90 days, the huge influx of supply and correlating lack of demand in a soft housing market cause values to plummet, so the banks are left with even less capital to lend.
I could go on... but I'm off to the McCain office. Git'r'done!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:47:34am |
re: #1251 FrogMarch
Nasty, but not out of the ordinary in Chi-town. Chicago has a long and ignoble history of election related violence.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:48:15am |
re: #1307 imploder
Cilantro tastes like soap to 15% of the population.
sigh... and dirt to another 15% me on the other hand, I love it... you just cant make a descent salsa without it...
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StinkHammer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:48:19am |
re: #1296 windbrother
I'm not telling you to "fuck off," nor am I questioning your voting preference. I was pointing out that your concern about Todd Palin is patently irrational.
I'm not here to condemn you for disagreeing -- I'm only going to call bullshit arguments when I see them.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:48:23am |
re: #1228 Killian Bundy
"/then the last thread must be the Forbidden Zone"
Uh, what?
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:48:28am |
re: #1290 Killian Bundy
Thank you for the civility to answer my questions. If I'm asking questions, that does *not* qualify me as a jackass, a troll, a Moby, a sleeper, or an agent provocateur for that matter.
Perhaps my tone earlier wasn't the best - for which I apologize. I've gotten a little harsh in my language myself because when I talk to anyone about politics - Obama supporters call me a wingnut, and when I come onto these kinds of threads, I get raked over the coals and have some very harsh language applied to me.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:48:38am |
re: #1297 wahabicorridor
You got that right. But I've been giving some thought to practicalities - and I think we're looking a a need for some $$$. 'Cuz we're gonna need lawyers.
Well, being pretty short of cash... I was thinking about building papermache heads or maybe giant puppets.
/I don't think I'd be good on stilts, tho'
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:48:56am |
re: #1307 imploder
Cilantro tastes like soap to 15% of the population.
How would you know what soap tastes like? /mom wash your mouth out once? /heh
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:49:46am |
re: #1310 realwest
Watcha mean you're waiting?!? The invitation was for you to come down here where it's gonna be in the 70's today!
COME ON DOWN!
ROTFLMAO... You just dont understand women do you real? What you actually did, was to invite yourself to GO GET HER... lol...lol...lol...
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:49:53am |
re: #1285 mama winger
I'm doing great! And my pup is gloriously glorious. Everyday he makes me laugh. I could not ask for more.
Dogs are a gift from God, eh?
Without a doubt, so true. Presently, Lil Miss is slobbering and leaving nose prints on the patio glass door yelling at the squirrels.
At the end of the day, I have to clean a strip of glass 8" up, 4" wide and 3.5' long.
Meh. She's just doing her job ... :D
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:50:09am |
Gonna head to bed now. Mondays I'm going from 11-9, and even though I'm off Tuesday, this Wednesday will be an 8am-8pm field trip to several craftsmaking towns in the nearby provinces (our "countryside") for Material Technology 1 class (on 'naturally-made' materials, MT2 is for the 'synthetics') hopefully culminating with watching Quantum of Solace in the late evening.
Hopefully being out all Wednesday will ease the suspense of knowing who the winner was. I've even asked my parents NOT to give me any election news starting Tuesday evening.
Cheers!
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StinkHammer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:50:09am |
re: #1308 DisturbedEma
Actually being attributed to Jefferson accroding to the bumper of my moonbat coworker's car. . .
And it's horseshit -- Jefferson never said it. I've never been able to get any lefty to point out where the quote can supposedly be found. It doesn't exist in any of Jefferson's extant writings, speeches.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:50:21am |
re: #1294 Miss Trixie
Hlushki? *blink*blink* What's that?
Polish. Chop a head of cabbage and onions (as much or little as you like). Melt a stick of butter (yeah - a stick) and braise/saute those veggies on LOW heat until the cabbage is like silk and the water from the cabbage has pretty much evaporated. Stir often and salt helps.
Cook a box of bow ties (aka 'farfella') and mix w/the cabbage - add more butter if you want.
This will put all your cardiologist's children thru college.
Now check your email - we're gonna talk barley
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:50:21am |
re: #1300 Miss Trixie
Your collie is gorgeous, luv.
Thanks - she's an old lady, 11 1/2 years now, and quite the little Madam, which I sometimes laugh at, and at other times show her that I'm still the big bad Mummy around here!
Wouldn't know what to do without her - love her to bits!
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:50:45am |
Windbrother,
Just remember that BHO couldn't get any kind of security clearance in the military or government with his background and acquaintances or associations if he wasn't running for President.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:50:49am |
re: #1320 phoenixgirl
(((dorian))) how are you?
Me and my new choppers are feeling pretty good... ;)
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:51:06am |
re: #1243 Miss Trixie
Very cute avatar! Now what flight are ya gonna be on? Hmmm?!
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:51:14am |
re: #1273 6pat6
The Jackasses have sure been worried about Palin's qualifications to be VPOTUS over B-HO's qualifications to be the POTUS...I have always found that amusing and troublesome at the same time.
obama is not qualified to hold any office in america.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:51:14am |
re: #1318 windbrother
Thank you for the civility to answer my questions. If I'm asking questions, that does *not* qualify me as a jackass, a troll, a Moby, a sleeper, or an agent provocateur for that matter.
Perhaps my tone earlier wasn't the best - for which I apologize. I've gotten a little harsh in my language myself because when I talk to anyone about politics - Obama supporters call me a wingnut, and when I come onto these kinds of threads, I get raked over the coals and have some very harsh language applied to me.
Then perhaps I misjudged you. GAZE withdrawn.
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phoenixgirl Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:51:17am |
re: #1321 lawhawk
How would you know what soap tastes like? /mom wash your mouth out once? /heh
i love cilantro, but i'm related to people who hate it. i never heard the comparison to a soap taste, to them, they think it has a metalic taste. what would a mexican street taco be without cilantro?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:51:25am |
re: #1318 windbrother
The reason you are being "raked" BTW is that you are bringing up Demoncrap talking points that have nothing to do with the election, the candidates, or have been proven to be false. A quick search or google would have revealed it to you. If you are not a moby or troll, and time will tell, we will make our amends. At this present time since I have been working tonight, I personally have seen three to four of the vile creatures. Now put up or shut up.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:51:34am |
re: #1318 windbrother
Actually, I was talking about something else.
/you comment, you takes your chances
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:51:58am |
In 2000 I was in Japan for the election, in 2004, Spain. This year I'm in Germany. Many Germans idolize the One. This makes me think he's going to lose, just like the Spaniards telling me that there was no way Kerry was going to lose.
Hurbris like that gets the Republican base out to vote. Right now Obama and the MSM are in the final stages of softening up McCain's support with demoralizing reports and the like.
I'm a bit nervous, but I think there's something in the air that hasn't been measured, and can't be measured, something intangible about the American electorate that no one else on the planet understands but us. When the pundit class and the talking heads and the foreign papers try to frame something as inevitible, sometimes America lets the bull lose in the china shop. I love it when that happens.
We'll soon enough find out. Keep your powder dry.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:52:28am |
This isn't about the spouces of the VP candidates, so I don't know why anyone would try to change the subject to Todd Palin. But if they are indeed fair game in the minds of some, then what about michelle obama? Go ahead and get all paranoid about Todd, but michelle isn't even proud of this country.
This whole line of reasoning is ridiculous!
What about 0bama?! What about spreading the wealth and using audacity to come up with other "magical solutions"?!
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:52:31am |
re: #1248 SurferDoc
SurferDoc - you are cleared to fire, I repeat, you are clear to fire!
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:52:47am |
re: #1207 windbrother
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
That is horseshit. Is this all you left-wing talking pointers can come up with?
Other than bullshitting an entire nation into thinking he isn't a Marxist - what has Obama accomplished?
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Semper Gumbi Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:52:50am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
Todd Palin is NOT a member of the Alaska Independence Party. He is a registered Independent. Duh
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:53:00am |
re: #1317 realwest
"/then the last thread must be the Forbidden Zone"
Uh, what?
/Palin was, in so many words, labeled a YEC
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laZardo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:53:00am |
re: #1251 FrogMarch
And that appears to be a gay guy writing to HillBuzz as well (note Sebastian Gray, and talking about his boyfriend). Tolerance indeed.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:53:07am |
Todd Palin is NOT Hillary Rodham Clinton. He's gonna' be too busy taking care of the kids to meddle in policy.
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:53:38am |
re: #1310 realwest
Watcha mean you're waiting?!? The invitation was for you to come down here where it's gonna be in the 70's today!
COME ON DOWN!
I won't have to sit on my hands no more?
*ZOOOM!
/leaves a wake of hair pins
:D
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:53:45am |
re: #1339 Sharmuta
How about Obama quadrupling the price of electricity?
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:53:53am |
barack obama:
1998-2001: The Joyce Foundation. Board member. Helped develop strategies to overturn the 2nd Amendment and outlaw the private possession of handguns.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:54:11am |
re: #1340 realwest
SurferDoc - you are cleared to fire, I repeat, you are clear to fire!
Real Free Fire Zone or John "If it moves, it dies" Kerry Free Fire Zone.
Gotta know the ROE
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:54:13am |
re: #1325 StinkHammer
Thank you for setting all straight! It had to come from somoeone like the SDS, WUO, etc. to justify there crap.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:54:31am |
re: #1260 KB55
Fortunately McCain is gonna win so we won't have to do anything. But should the unthinkable happen, I meant every damn word. Every. Damn. Word.
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:54:40am |
re: #1314 Dark_Falcon
Nasty, but not out of the ordinary in Chi-town. Chicago has a long and ignoble history of election related violence.
Chicago is where thug-politics is nurtured and applauded.
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:54:49am |
re: #1322 doriangrey
ROTFLMAO... You just dont understand women do you real? What you actually did, was to invite yourself to GO GET HER... lol...lol...lol...
ZACTLY! But I can make some effort ... "D
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:55:09am |
re: #1341 FrogMarch
Other than bullshitting an
entire50% of the nation into thinking he isn't a Marxist - what has Obama accomplished?
Fixed
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:55:19am |
re: #1264 DisturbedEma
Prophetess= visionary?
Leadership quality? Maybe you could sell the VP as handmaiden role? Man, I just spit up typing that! Wish my moonbat PDS co workers could see themselves as being just as asshattery!
Oh, Barf!
I love my brothers and sisters in the church who want to know the scriptures so they can follow G-d better, but they cannot control other people and their choices if those people disagree. And rarely have we seen such a candidate in Barack Obama who wants to destroy the best parts of this country.
But I have more reading to do.
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kcladderman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:55:29am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
GAZE
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:55:31am |
re: #1348 laZardo
Sleep well, see you around the blog.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:55:55am |
re: #1347 jaunte
How about Obama quadrupling the price of electricity?
How's he going to manage that? Taxes or insane regulations? Or just insisting on alternative power sources?
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:01am |
re: #1275 wahabicorridor
What the fuck is it with the mobys today?
They have seen the internal polls ...Senator Government employs over 400 paid online trolls ... this is no joke ...they are dispatched to suppress the vote ...I am not saying all the ones on LGF are put they are out in force right now on all the blogs ...
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:07am |
why does fox news radio have an advert break every 5 friggin minutes,...
bloody ridiculous.
anyone care to recommend a decent talk radio station, with an internet stream... and one that doesnt have a break every 5 minutes?
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:16am |
re: #1274 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)Thanks - if you haven't, please upding it. I'd like the post itself to make it into the top ten today!
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:20am |
I am John Proctor, no matter what happens in the election.
I am a proud person, a hard working person, and I am a fighter. I will not go quietly into any night, and I will, come hell or high water, fight for the basic principles and values of the United States of America.
Through hysteria and vengeful accusations, I will not be swayed from the core beliefs of my country, I will demand those rights, and I will expect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as my due. I will NOT allow any one group or person to take those rights away from me.
I will question everyone, I will take nothing on faith, and no matter the outcome, I will not be cowed by scare tactics, aggression, nor be intimidated for speaking my mind. I will study and learn the most detailed parts of the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution, as is my duty as an American, and hold my government to those standards, and fight to my last breath, any and all attempts to remove one iota of my freedom from me.
I will fight for my country, because my country makes me who I am, free. If we lose that freedom, may G-d have mercy on us all.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:26am |
re: #1359 Dianna
How's he going to manage that? Taxes or insane regulations? Or just insisting on alternative power sources?
Yes, yes, and yes.
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zenren Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:30am |
The Obama-paid Eeyores will be out in force the next 48 hours. I have to go finish my literature drop, so someone please patrol the premises.
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:40am |
re: #1359 Dianna
How's he going to manage that? Taxes or insane regulations? Or just insisting on alternative power sources?
Cap and trade. He's out to hobble 50% of America's electricity capacity.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:56:41am |
re: #1359 Dianna
How's he going to manage that? Taxes or insane regulations? Or just insisting on alternative power sources?
There's a video out today showing him making comments in San Francisco saying he is going to bankrupt the coal industry.
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:57:36am |
re: #1073 yah
When people tell me they are voting for Obama, I ask them "Why?"
Some of them get this wild eyed look and burst into an insane long hate rage against Sarah Palin - really over the top. I just listen quietly look at them without arguing. This makes them obviously uncomfortable and they shut up. Maybe they realize they sound like idiots.Others go into the "I hate Bush" tirade. These people seem more satisfied with their reasoning.
In either case, neither group can tell me why they are voting FOR Obama.
same response I get. whenever I cite the major issues with Obama, in return they will say something like "how can you say that when we just had Bush? Are you telling me Obama is worse than Bush?"
when you press them about what was so bad with Bush it gets really comical. for example: "He ignored the constitution and lied about the war".
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:57:52am |
re: #1296 windbrother
Did I ever say that I was an Obama supporter? No.
Now you're attacking me for just asking questions? And several posters have already called me a troll or told me to "fuck off."
There are, in fact, such things as independent voters. Of which I am one.
And for the record, I do NOT approve of many things in Obama's platform. "Civilian National Security Force" indeed. And he generally concerns me.
I'm not going to defend him because that's not why I'm here.
So why then would Todd Palin - a peripheral person who is not on the ballot, be of more concern to you than obama?
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:57:55am |
re: #1359 Dianna
"Bankrupting" taxes on coal-fired electricity generation.
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:58:34am |
re: #1335 BlueCanuck
This guy sounds exactly like His Royal Highness from earlier in this thread. I call sock puppet. Either that or they are following instructions from the same source.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:58:39am |
re: #1347 jaunte
How about Obama quadrupling the price of electricity?
But Bristol Palin is pregnant!
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:59:05am |
re: #1360 JacksonTn
They have seen the internal polls ...Senator Government employs over 400 paid online trolls ... this is no joke ...they are dispatched to suppress the vote ...I am not saying all the ones on LGF are put they are out in force right now on all the blogs ...
That's fascinating to consider. That's actually a tenet of PSYOPS, and there are plenty of Americans with the training to organize and carry out such an activity. It doesn't seem to be illegal but it sure as hell is creepy.
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StinkHammer Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:59:12am |
re: #1353 FrogMarch
Hey, Frogs -- enjoy your day. I'm outta here for to gird my loins for the Bronco game.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:59:15am |
re: #1367 imploder
He's out to hobble
50% ofAmerica's electricity capacity.
/get with the progtom comrade
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:59:25am |
re: #1375 Spirit93
This guy sounds exactly like His Royal Highness from earlier in this thread. I call sock puppet. Either that or they are following instructions from the same source.
My wireless network thingy went dead long about then. What happened?
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:59:25am |
re: #1376 Sharmuta
Yes, the big thinkers know what to focus on!
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DisgustingOratory Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:59:37am |
I never get to see the troll-posts, I feel left out.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 7:59:54am |
re: #1337 imploder
This year I'm in Germany. Many Germans idolize the One.
I've been posting on a couple (English language) German boards for several years. Without fail, the candidate they like is always the one that will make America weaker - but they always frame it in terms of "we just want to like you again".
For me, that's my 'free fire zone'. I can go on chapter and verse and prove to them that they have NEVER liked us - for hundreds of years, in fact.
Then I start talking about the Russians and Leningrad.
It's great fun - you should try it sometime.
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:00:17am |
I like having this extra hour in the morning to screw off.
All in favor of 25 hour days, say AYE!
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:00:31am |
re: #1352 realwest
Me too! If the worse happens, gun sales are going to go through the roof--he wins, I'm in a gun shop the 15th (have to wait until payday)-- two guns, Myfe™ & I, same rounds so don't have to buy multiples--any suggestions so I don't overpower her? Also, have to track down some 7.7Jap somewhere--excelent accuracy, long-range shooting.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:00:58am |
re: #1375 Spirit93
Similar yes, but I think they are two seperate people. Different accounts, different times, different talking points. Most mobies follow the same style.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:00:59am |
I notice a similarity between the methods the Palin Haters use to spread their talking points and the way the trufers worked early on.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:03am |
re: #1381 MandyManners
My wireless network thingy went dead long about then. What happened?
The One can see you now...
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:10am |
Here's another link to the 'bankrupt the coal industry' audio:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:28am |
re: #1367 imploder
re: #1368 mama winger
re: #1372 jaunte
Thanks, all.
That sounds like what I was thinking he advocated - but it's all been scattered in various places.
Cap and trade would be a fine idea in a world where we had developed technologies that aren't oil. But since the one electrical generation method that we know really works (nuclear) isn't on the table, we're going to get creamed if he actually sets that as a policy.
Now, all we have to do is keep McCain from proposing the same idiocy.
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Crusty Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:34am |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications. There are two questions I'd like anyone on this thread to answer:
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
So how's the weather on Moby Island today? Or are you and Joe Biden over in Lebanon driving out Heabollah with France or watching FDR videos from 1929?
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:36am |
re: #1244 realwest
I'm right there with you my friend. We will fight these lying progressive fascists.
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:41am |
Gah. I don't have the strength for this right now.
Later, lizards.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:55am |
re: #1379 StinkHammer
Hey, Frogs -- enjoy your day. I'm outta here for to gird my loins for the Bronco game.
[Expletive deleted], thanks!
/forgot all about my fantasy football lineup
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:01:57am |
re: #1384 wahabicorridor
I've been posting on a couple (English language) German boards for several years. Without fail, the candidate they like is always the one that will make America weaker - but they always frame it in terms of "we just want to like you again".
For me, that's my 'free fire zone'. I can go on chapter and verse and prove to them that they have NEVER liked us - for hundreds of years, in fact.
Then I start talking about the Russians and Leningrad.
It's great fun - you should try it sometime.
and dont forget that the german nation is now controlled by the unelected, and undemocratic European Union.
they have ZERO right to start lecturing Americans on who they should elect.
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leboaz Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:02:02am |
Where's Taxfreekiller?
The Albuquerque Urinal endorsed McCain!
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:02:09am |
re: #1379 StinkHammer
Hey, Frogs -- enjoy your day. I'm outta here for to gird my loins for the Bronco game.
ooo have fun!
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:02:17am |
re: #1322 doriangrey
"You just dont understand women do you real? "
Are you referring to my two marriages (and subsequent two divorces)? HUH?
/
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:02:26am |
re: #1307 imploder
Cilantro works best when fresh, but that is true of most herbs
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:03:11am |
re: #1350 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Real Free Fire Zone or John "If it moves, it dies" Kerry Free Fire Zone.
Gotta know the ROE
We operate under George S. Patton's ROE's... Kill em all and let God sort em out...
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:03:11am |
re: #1384 wahabicorridor
I've been posting on a couple (English language) German boards for several years. Without fail, the candidate they like is always the one that will make America weaker - but they always frame it in terms of "we just want to like you again".
For me, that's my 'free fire zone'. I can go on chapter and verse and prove to them that they have NEVER liked us - for hundreds of years, in fact.
Then I start talking about the Russians and Leningrad.
It's great fun - you should try it sometime.
I used to go to a certain board and take on the neo-nazis there. I went after them like a rabid mongoose. It was enormous fun. One day I just got tired of it and decided it is more fun to hang with sane people and disagree with them while still smiling.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:03:44am |
re: #1360 JacksonTn
They have seen the internal polls ...Senator Government employs over 400 paid online trolls ... this is no joke ...they are dispatched to suppress the vote ...I am not saying all the ones on LGF are put they are out in force right now on all the blogs ...
:)
I know. I just wanted them to know their oder is - um - detectable
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:03:50am |
re: #1396 buzzdroid
Hey, Germany is very progressive. They are so progressive now that if you are a young female, and your unemployment runs out, the government will find you a job!
As a Sex Worker.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:03:57am |
re: #1390 jaunte
Here's another link to the 'bankrupt the coal industry' audio:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
But Piper Palin hands out candy to the press!
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Timbre Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:03:58am |
I think I've discovered Charles' footprints! (Then again, maybe it's simply chaotic chance!) I did not know of this site--looks interesting.
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:04:16am |
re: #1384 wahabicorridor
I've been posting on a couple (English language) German boards for several years. Without fail, the candidate they like is always the one that will make America weaker - but they always frame it in terms of "we just want to like you again".
For me, that's my 'free fire zone'. I can go on chapter and verse and prove to them that they have NEVER liked us - for hundreds of years, in fact.
Haha! I live in a small village (150) in Rhineland Pfalz and I generally try and stay away from politics when I interact with them because I am on friendly terms with just about everybody. I don't talk about their politics, either, except with my one friend who really doesn't favor the way they get raped by the tax man.
I did get into one night at the Gasthaus with a friend who thinks Obama is the One. He works for Siemens and is a seasoned world traveler, and his dad farms here, so we've worked cows together and thrown hay together. This night when he was engaging in The One worship I just wrestled him to the ground and have him a wedgie.
Then I start talking about the Russians and Leningrad.
It's great fun - you should try it sometime.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:04:23am |
re: #1402 doriangrey
We operate under George S. Patton's ROE's... Kill em all and let God sort em out...
Well, good... I hate fighting a war with one hand tied around my balls.
/It itches something awful.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:05:04am |
re: #1368 mama winger
re: #1359 DiannaHow's he going to manage that? Taxes or insane regulations? Or just insisting on alternative power sources?There's a video out today showing him making comments in San Francisco saying he is going to bankrupt the coal industry.
How else are we going to stop Global Warming Climate Change?!?
"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK"
He thinks we need to live like a Third World country so other countries will like us. Umm, Barry, I've got news for you...
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:05:25am |
re: #1381 MandyManners
My wireless network thingy went dead long about then. What happened?
He just disappeared. And now we have WindBreaker.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:05:28am |
re: #1343 Killian Bundy
Who labled her a YEC (and what IS a YEC)?!
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:05:29am |
re: #1390 jaunte
Everyone needs to send that link to Drudge and Fox News.
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buzzdroid Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:05:48am |
pittsburg tribune review comes out for mccain
[Link: www.pittsburghlive.com...]
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:06:04am |
If the progressive democrat-left campaigned honestly - no one would vote for them.
Notice how far Obama has had to moderate and swing to the middle/right.
At what point will the American people wake up?
The only way democrats win - is if they lie.
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:06:21am |
re: #1338 albusteve
some pinch and suck...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
You making me homesick ...I have seen them a bunch ... Tipitina's is a great place to see anyone ... I like the Radiators also ...and Marcia Ball is one of my favorites ...she plays there all the time ..
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:06:32am |
re: #1386 KB55
I'm a smallish woman and I shoot .45. It's not overwhelming. I've shot Desert Eagles, and (with the gas recoil uptake) it's not too bad, though my wrists hurt a bit after ten rounds with the .50.
However, my friend and neighbor can't use my guns, because her hands are just too small. So take her with you and check grips.
I dislike the 9 mm because the recoil doesn't feel straight to me, but as if the gun's twisting, and my hand's going off to the side. With the .45, I feel like my hand comes up and back a bit, but I'm back on target in fractions of a second.
Of course, you and your wife may have other views.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:06:33am |
re: #1389 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
The One can see you now...
Oh, no. Should I fix my hair and slap on some lipstick?
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:06:45am |
apologies on that last one, Wahabi's quote and comments got intermingled. Yousa!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:05am |
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:08am |
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:20am |
re: #1231 goddessoftheclassroom
I want to BE Sarah Palin. I know I couldn't have borne all the personal attacks as she has.
My lead English teacher on Friday went as Sarah -- stood at her doorway welcoming the students with a hockey stick and fishing pole but no moose head or hunting rifle. She said she had thought about a toy rifle, but did not want to upset the ZeroBama Tolerance 'noids in the administration.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:30am |
My stars, you people are easily distracted from the real issues!
Can we really allow the Palins into the Naval Observatory? The daughters are allowed to smear their saliva all over the baby's head, for crying out loud!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:44am |
re: #1403 SurferDoc
I used to go to a certain board and take on the neo-nazis there. I went after them like a rabid mongoose. It was enormous fun. One day I just got tired of it and decided it is more fun to hang with sane people and disagree with them while still smiling.
Same here...
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:54am |
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:57am |
re: #1397 leboaz
Where's Taxfreekiller?
The Albuquerque Urinal endorsed McCain!
hey it's close out here amigo...very active Dems for McCain traitors...the purple people eaters...didnt heae about the Urinal tho
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imploder Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:07:59am |
re: #1419 Dianna
I'm a smallish woman and I shoot .45. It's not overwhelming. I've shot Desert Eagles, and (with the gas recoil uptake) it's not too bad, though my wrists hurt a bit after ten rounds with the .50.
However, my friend and neighbor can't use my guns, because her hands are just too small. So take her with you and check grips.
I dislike the 9 mm because the recoil doesn't feel straight to me, but as if the gun's twisting, and my hand's going off to the side. With the .45, I feel like my hand comes up and back a bit, but I'm back on target in fractions of a second.
Of course, you and your wife may have other views.
I think the .45 has very manageable recoil and you describe it very accurately.
I like my .45. It throws the lug nuts.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:08:23am |
re: #1415 spypeach
Everyone needs to send that link to Drudge and Fox News.
Yes; this is big, because it's easy to reason from:
Fewer power plants... higher energy prices... hey... I'm personally going to freeze in the winter and burn up in the summer, and it'll be expensive!
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:08:27am |
re: #1420 MandyManners
Oh, no. Should I fix my hair and slap on some lipstick?
No... they need to establish a profile baseline on you.
Just act naturally.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:08:39am |
re: #1414 realwest
HisRoyalPissiness labeled the GOP Young Earth Creationists. Stated it was in the party platform.
/and that's when the clue-by-fours came out.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:08:41am |
re: #1396 buzzdroid
and dont forget that the german nation is now controlled by the unelected, and undemocratic European Union.
HA! They don't care. I wrote a 6 page paper on the EU Constituion/Lisbon treaty for one of the blogs. The reaction was appreciative and respectful (THEY never bothered to read the damn things and they could believe an American would)- but they don't care. As far as they're concerned they rule the EU along with France so what's the big deal?
Remember the genesis for the EU was NOT WWII - it was WW I. Germany has never known anything close to democracy - they know how to be ruled by an elite class - and that's it.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:08:51am |
re: #1420 MandyManners
Oh, no. Should I fix my hair and slap on some lipstick?
No, a burlap sack... er a habbib would be more to his liking...
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:08:56am |
re: #1365 SurferDoc
Confirm one bogey hit. Repeat one bogey hit. Continue patrolling duties until further notice.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:09:14am |
re: #1420 MandyManners
Oh, no. Should I fix my hair and slap on some lipstick?
No lipstick! The One dislikes lipstick - especially on hockey mums!
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:09:39am |
re: #1425 Sharmuta
My stars, you people are easily distracted from the real issues!
Can we really allow the Palins into the Naval Observatory? The daughters are allowed to smear their saliva all over the baby's head, for crying out loud!
AND she nurses her kids. . .disGUSTing. . .unless you are one of the one. . .///
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:09:51am |
re: #1419 Dianna
She can shoot, but I'm worried about her arthritis that flames up now--I was expert .45, and had 44, but thinking that a 9mm would be enoough--I want something for her, tho, that knocks then around or down, so not sure if 9mm is enough--I know 1911.45 is too big for her, so wondering what to look for.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:09:57am |
re: #1414 realwest
Who labled her a YEC (and what IS a YEC)?!
/sorry, fresh out of Cliff Notes for curiosity
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:10:16am |
re: #1390 jaunte
Here's another link to the 'bankrupt the coal industry' audio:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It's just that it will bankrupt them."
Massive transfer of wealth.
He's gonna' let ideology rule over technology.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:10:22am |
re: #1413 Spirit93
He just disappeared. And now we have WindBreaker.
I hear that in most Native American tongues that translates to Breaker of wind... ;p
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:10:22am |
re: #1344 laZardo
And that appears to be a gay guy writing to HillBuzz as well (note Sebastian Gray, and talking about his boyfriend). Tolerance indeed.
HillBuzz Note: PLEASE, everyone be careful out there. Obama’s followers can be violent and destructive. They key cars, throw rocks through windows, push and shove anyone who doesn’t agree with them, and generally provoke fights like this — all part of what Obama himself told his followers to do and “get in people’s faces and argue with them”. BE CAREFUL, because these Obama followers are DANGEROUS.
And if anyone in Chicago recognizes the guy in the photo — who claims to be a lawyer — it would be really interesting to find out who he is, what firm he works for, so we can forward Sebastian’s story to the firm’s partners.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:10:53am |
Ok, I just got back from Church. We prayed for America's decision on Tuesday. We were told to pray for God's will be done.
So I prayed (sorry, Lord)...
Dear Lord...
If your will is for America to be led by a man who is a friend to terrorists, an closet Socialist, and whose most ardent supporters hate all that America stands for...
then I do not agree with you at all, but, let your will be done.
Amen.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:10:57am |
re: #1403 SurferDoc
I used to go to a certain board and take on the neo-nazis there
Oh man, I can't resist. I understand that you wouldn't want to post the url for that but my nic is blue if you wouldn't mind sending me an email...
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:14am |
re: #1440 MandyManners
He's gonna' let ideology rule over technology.
Sounds like two other groups I can think of.
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:21am |
re: #1417 FrogMarch
If the progressive democrat-left campaigned honestly - no one would vote for them.
Notice how far Obama has had to moderate and swing to the middle/right.
At what point will the American people wake up?The only way democrats win - is if they lie.
he is a completely different person now than when he started out.
trying to sound just pro-american enough to get elected.
obama would be eviscerated in a court room. he would be a terrible witness or defendant.
a prosecutor would simple ask "are you lying NOW or were you lying THEN."
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:33am |
re: #1440 MandyManners
In the meantime, as we struggle to find workable alternatives, the energy consumers (everybody) will just have to eke out their lives as they can. Hunter-gatherers.
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leftover54 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:40am |
Anybody catch Lawrence Eagleburger on Fox this a.m. ?Although a few weeks ago he came out strongly against the Palin pick, he said this morning:
"G_d help us" to a comment from one of the talking heads who had just said "If Obama becomes POTUS..."
(Eagleburger chimes in with "G_d help us").
Also, they (Fox folks) were equally amused by the SNL take on Olbermann bit last night - commenting also on the bits length. My post last night to the "T".
Aflack did a dead on impression, lasting something like 8 mins. (youtube yet ?) as Keith, the total lunatic. I'm now wondering though if this wasn't to help Obama in a strategic way. If Aflack and SNL throw Olbermann under the bus, could it be just to give them more cred. as/when they come out for Obama ? I don't know though 'cause the entire show seemed to be pretty "McCain" friendly and even the NYC audience gave him a pretty darn warm reception/reaction. I was surprised as hell. I guess I should just give credit where credits due and leave it alone. NBC was "fair and balanced" for at least an hour and a half last night.
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:45am |
re: #1425 Sharmuta
My stars, you people are easily distracted from the real issues!
Can we really allow the Palins into the Naval Observatory? The daughters are allowed to smear their saliva all over the baby's head, for crying out loud!
and and and - what if the Palin's babysit Tine Fey's kid?
oh the humanity!
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:47am |
re: #1425 Sharmuta
My stars, you people are easily distracted from the real issues!
Can we really allow the Palins into the Naval Observatory? The daughters are allowed to smear their saliva all over the baby's head, for crying out loud!
OMG!...is this true?...GAURDS SEIZE THEM!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:47am |
re: #1438 KB55
She can shoot, but I'm worried about her arthritis that flames up now--I was expert .45, and had 44, but thinking that a 9mm would be enoough--I want something for her, tho, that knocks then around or down, so not sure if 9mm is enough--I know 1911.45 is too big for her, so wondering what to look for.
With two hands on it, the 1911 should be great for just about anyone. If my goofy paws can do it, anyone can...
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:11:55am |
re: #1429 imploder
I think the .45 has very manageable recoil and you describe it very accurately.
I like my .45. It throws the lug nuts.
I love it. My Male jokes that you can watch my rounds waddle downrange; I respond that the targets somehow can't get away, even so.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:12:01am |
re: #1429 imploder
I think the .45 has very manageable recoil and you describe it very accurately.
I like my .45. It throws the lug nuts.
I like the Flying Ashtrays. (Deep wide hollowpoint .45s)
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:12:18am |
I'm watching "The Old Time Gospel Hour", Huckabee is preaching about the election. Don't really like that.
My pastor and I are polar opposites politically, but we leave it outside of the doors of our relationship.
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Miss Trixie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:12:38am |
Ok, Lil Miss is yellin' at me to get out there and terrorize the 'hood.
BBL and have a great day all.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:12:39am |
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:13:12am |
re: #1435 realwest
Confirm one bogey hit. Repeat one bogey hit. Continue patrolling duties until further notice.
Affirmative. He's down. No chute.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:13:13am |
re: #1431 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
No... they need to establish a profile baseline on you.
Just act naturally.
So I can burp and scratch?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:13:44am |
re: #1434 doriangrey
No, a burlap sack... er a habbib would be more to his liking...
Fresh out of either.
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:13:54am |
re: #1185 windbrother
Coal may be *necessary* but it is not *desirable*.
yes, now you've got it. Coal is necessary hence the stupidity of saying you're going to bankrupt the industry.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:13:56am |
re: #1407 rawmuse
Hey, Germany is very progressive. They are so progressive now that if you are a young female, and your unemployment runs out, the government will find you a job!
As a Sex Worker.
That story was debunked years ago...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:13:59am |
re: #1458 MandyManners
Young lady, you can do what ever your heart desires.
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Timbre Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:14:02am |
re: #1247 Mich-again
Palin-hatred is my new litmus test for idiocy.
Yesterday, here in Midland, a car zoomed past me (speeding) with "Palin Sucks" written in white shoe polish on the right rear window. On the back was written "Obama" with the "O" made out to be a hippie peace sign. I thought to myself, "Yeah, your attitude towards Palin is real peaceful... /sarc"
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:14:07am |
re: #1436 yma o hyd
No lipstick! The One dislikes lipstick - especially on hockey mums!
We all know who the real pig is.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:01am |
re: #1445 Sharmuta
Sounds like two other groups I can think of.
Do I need to put on my red-beret thinking cap?
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:03am |
re: #1386 KB55
Whoa there - I was NOT advocating violence! Seriously, no violence except in literal self-defense.
And Obama can take his Civilian Defense Force and shove it - there are WAAAY more Veterans of the Armed Forces in this country that will say "NO WAY" to any CFD he puts together and we'll make that NO WAY stick.
Count on it.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:05am |
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:24am |
re: #1419 Dianna
I can't even lift a Desert Eagle. You must be strong.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:38am |
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:42am |
re: #1440 MandyManners
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It's just that it will bankrupt them."
Massive transfer of wealth.
He's gonna' let ideology rule over technology.
Yup...so much for a well thought out position. Looks like his is clinging to his Marxism and Socialism and elitism. Let them burn air!
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LonnyE Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:51am |
re: #892 ziggyelman
That naked emperor news guy is just amazing! Too bad this couldn't have been a 24/7 ad in those coal producing states!
OMG, why am I finding out about this now? This could have been seriously devastating to the Obama campaign.
I am an ex-worker in the nuclear industry and big proponent of commerical nuclear power generation.
This country cannot enjoy the prosperity we have become accustomed to without continuing to rely on coal power for many years to come.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:52am |
re: #1447 jaunte
In the meantime, as we struggle to find workable alternatives, the energy consumers (everybody) will just have to eke out their lives as they can. Hunter-gatherers.
With a four-storey house with 30-foot ceilings, that's gonna' suck.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:53am |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:15:57am |
re: #1458 MandyManners
So I can burp and scratch?
If that is normal behavior, knock yourself out. But remember the agent watching is a min wage CSF employee, not a highly trained FBI agent. Pick your nose at your own risk.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:16:08am |
re: #1465 MandyManners
We all know who the real pig is.
LOL - we do indeed!
(But are too well brought up to mention it in polite society, teeheehee!)
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:16:16am |
re: #1471 doriangrey
What's happening you handsome "almost rock star"!
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:16:20am |
re: #1438 KB55
That's an interesting conundrum, there.
I'd say, since the 9 has such an uncomfortable recoil, that the .45 (if she can hit with it) remains the better choice (provided she can handle the gun?). Fewer shots needed, and better accuracy. I do think - though I'm sure there are a lot of people here who would disagree - that the recoil on the 9 mm is harder on the wrists and fingers.
One thought - if she uses hollow points, she certainly isn't going to have to worry about the person she shoots getting back up. Even with a fairly light gun.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:16:23am |
re: #1444 wahabicorridor
Oh man, I can't resist. I understand that you wouldn't want to post the url for that but my nic is blue if you wouldn't mind sending me an email...
LOL! I would but they are pretty well dead now so there is no fun to be had anymore. They literally drowned in their own venom. Besides, I'd hate to have anyone "normal" know I ever went there or, God Forbid, figure out which crazed, axe swinging maniac I was there.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:16:40am |
re: #1438 KB55
She can shoot, but I'm worried about her arthritis that flames up now--I was expert .45, and had 44, but thinking that a 9mm would be enoough--I want something for her, tho, that knocks then around or down, so not sure if 9mm is enough--I know 1911.45 is too big for her, so wondering what to look for.
My hands are small also and I have very lettle upper arm strength - I went with a S&W .38 revolver. Remember, if she can't put it on the target, not much else matters.
/hollow points
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:16:43am |
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:16:50am |
re: #1462 wahabicorridor
Where? When? I read the original column from Der Spiegel. But it was about year 2002.
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gregg Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:17:10am |
re: #1397 leboaz
Where's Taxfreekiller?
The Albuquerque Urinal endorsed McCain!
Here's an interesting way to view newspaper endorsements from around the country. Obviously, if you're easily discouraged, you probably shouldn't go there.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:17:14am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:17:45am |
re: #1476 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
If that is normal behavior, knock yourself out. But remember the agent watching is a min wage CSF employee, not a highly trained FBI agent. Pick your nose at your own risk.
Ew. Just, ew.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:18:36am |
re: #1384 wahabicorridor
Not to mention that should Obama win (shudder) they will have to pay for their OWN military defense and to take care of any natural disasters on their OWN cause Uncle Sam won't have the capacity or the desire to help 'em out.
When the day comes I let GERMANS lecture me about morality, then you know the world's gone nutz.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:18:51am |
re: #1477 yma o hyd
LOL - we do indeed!
(But are too well brought up to mention it in polite society, teeheehee!)
A biker-type and I discussed it this morning in line at the store. I also directed him here.
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:18:56am |
Can I just say that this election has driven my poor old Dad to spray paint a huge wooden sign; It says Obama=Socialism and McCain =Freedom. He has it attached to the back of his truck and he drives everywhere with it, and we live in Maryland. He is one brave man. He served 23 years in the Air Force and is disgusted by Obama.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:19:17am |
re: #1445 Sharmuta
Sounds like two other groups I can think of.
Ok, the Amish would be one group...now, who's the other?
;)
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:19:27am |
re: #1475 albusteve
I thought that was just about the darlinest thing I ever saw...I mean really...
That's what they were hoping for- that you would fall for the "cuteness" factor and thereby falsely focus on 0bama and his words, actions, associates and ideology!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:19:41am |
re: #1478 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What's happening you handsome "almost rock star"!
Well, ya know... Just waiting till all the groupies camped outside my front door trundle off to Mickey D's for breakfast so I can sneak off to the bro's pad for a couple of quite beers... ;)
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:19:46am |
re: #1443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The way I understand God to be, He does not approve of folks who would let newborn infants lay on stainless steel tables until they are dead. This would not be His will.
I think I am pretty safe on this one.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:19:50am |
re: #1481 wahabicorridor
My hands are small also and I have very lettle upper arm strength - I went with a S&W .38 revolver. Remember, if she can't put it on the target, not much else matters.
/hollow points
you need one of these then...holster optional
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:19:53am |
re: #1453 SurferDoc
I like the Flying Ashtrays. (Deep wide hollowpoint .45s)
The ones you mix cocktails in? I want a couple boxes for Christmas.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:20:21am |
re: #1488 MandyManners
A biker-type and I discussed it this morning in line at the store. I also directed him here.
Good-oh!
I hope he also gets to look at Zombie's three last reports - total eye-openers for all who thought Ayers was just a neighbour ...
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:20:59am |
Gotta' go grab some food before I devour the part of The Kid's ToT candy that I hid for safe-keeping. brb
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Gang of One Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:20:59am |
re: #1286 StinkHammer
re: #1274 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" they kept telling us...
And an absolutely ridiculous statement in and of itself, at that (one crafted by the Marxist "historian" Howard Zinn, I believe). Giving one's life in service to one's country is the highest form of patriotism.
Spot on, Hammer.
I tell these bottom feeders that if dissent is the highest form of patriotism, and the highest form of dissent is treason, then it stands to reason that treason is patriotic ... the blank stares are priceless.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:21:31am |
re: #1470 mama winger
I can't even lift a Desert Eagle. You must be strong.
I don't know about that...
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:21:37am |
re: #1497 MandyManners
Gotta' go grab some food before I devour the part of The Kid's ToT candy that I hid for safe-keeping. brb
Hid from whom?
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:21:49am |
re: #1412 Spiny Norman
LOL! NO - it's actually worse than that - other countries can't say "NO" much less "yes" to our consumption - in fact they have very little imput to our daily lives!
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:21:52am |
re: #1489 spypeach
Can I just say that this election has driven my poor old Dad to spray paint a huge wooden sign; It says Obama=Socialism and McCain =Freedom. He has it attached to the back of his truck and he drives everywhere with it, and we live in Maryland. He is one brave man. He served 23 years in the Air Force and is disgusted by Obama.
you must really love your dad.
i do and i've never met him.
:D
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:21:58am |
re: #1479 Dianna
That's an interesting conundrum, there.
I'd say, since the 9 has such an uncomfortable recoil, that the .45 (if she can hit with it) remains the better choice (provided she can handle the gun?). Fewer shots needed, and better accuracy. I do think - though I'm sure there are a lot of people here who would disagree - that the recoil on the 9 mm is harder on the wrists and fingers.
One thought - if she uses hollow points, she certainly isn't going to have to worry about the person she shoots getting back up. Even with a fairly light gun.
Yup, the .45 has far superior knock down power, persons hit with .45 go down fast, they dont look surprised, stagger around and get a few shots of their own off.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:22:13am |
re: #1480 SurferDoc
LOL! I would but they are pretty well dead now so there is no fun to be had anymore. They literally drowned in their own venom. Besides, I'd hate to have anyone "normal" know I ever went there or, God Forbid, figure out which crazed, axe swinging maniac I was there.
Dang. That would have been as much fun as the CAIR dinner I went to for Khatami!
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kcladderman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:22:28am |
re: #1484 gregg
Here's an interesting way to view newspaper endorsements from around the country. Obviously, if you're easily discouraged, you probably shouldn't go there.
It would be interesting to see who those papers endorsed in the last few elections. Might put the whole thing in perspective.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:22:37am |
re: #1493 mama winger
The way I understand God to be, He does not approve of folks who would let newborn infants lay on stainless steel tables until they are dead. This would not be His will.
I think I am pretty safe on this one.
You are!
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:22:48am |
As far as patriotism goes - I applaud John McCain's service to this country. We owe all veterans a huge debt. And I am a firm believer that every veteran that has served this country deserves the absolute best in health care, both mental and physical, this is available. I believe that all veterans that need them should get C-knees, and generally be given the best. We need more polytrauma centers, we need more and better VA hospitals. {and I'm a firm believer that their system of medical records should be expanded to the whole country!
However, to say that because someone has served the country in the military (or has a child serving now) renders them immune from criticism on policy matters or confers expertise in and of itself is not accurate.
If you want to talk defense, let's do that. Really. How is McCain going to fix procurement?
Just off the top of my head - the Navy wants to go all-nuclear but haven't even started doing the naval architecture studies for lower-class combatant designs. DD(X) and CG(X) are at best going to be funded for 2-3 ships as boutique demonstrators. Virginia class submarines is 46% over budget. LCS is dead in the water - GD and LockMart's demonstrators are not working properly and quite frankly, a Perry-class could sink one - NO organic area air defense, no organic anti-sub capacity, etc. The first in the new San Antonio class out of the shipyards in LA isn't even fit for service and still will probably cost another $300M to correct. The Navy's F-35C still hasn't even had a carrier test flight, much less exited SDD, much less to LRIP and has already breached Nunn-McCurdy limits. The next-generation carriers still haven't gotten the engine designs finalized - they want permanent in-hull electric drive but their preferred inductive design is significantly behind schedule. The Marine's EFV is still 5 years out, is having all kinds of teething problems, and has gone up in cost yet again (NM breach!)
The Air Force is flying a fleet so old that it's already under all kinds of flight restrictions. And JSF costs are through the roof, and as usual the Pentagon is adding requirements left and right that are driving costs through the roof and the costs are rising because the numbers bought are getting smaller and pushed further into the future. What does the Air Force leadership want to do? They could recapitalize the F-16 fleet with Block 60/62s such as we sold to the UAE with AESA that are far superior to anything that we're flying - 5 for the cost of one F-22, I believe. What's on the shelf for the USAF that has the range of a F-14? NOTHING. And cruise missiles? We have still have subsonic non-stealthy options. The rest of the world has gone supersonic two decades ago. Russo-Indian jointly developed BrahMos as an example, and the planned follow-on hypersonic BrahMos II? We don't have anything even in deveopment, and the only stealthy cruise missile we had, the AGM 129, is getting scrapped because of maintenance costs.
Air defense: the SM-3 has an excellent performance record but they terribly expensive and the SM-6 is behind schedule. And the problem of saturation hasn't gone anyway. Iran, china, or NK can throw 5 CSS-1 and/or CSS-2 anti-ship missiles at a carrier group for every SM2 or SM3 we can throw up. Not to mention that the Chinese have finally gotten a conventional ballistic missile naval seeker warhead. Just dump 30 into a basket and uncage the seekers (probably advanced SAR or ISAR; it's unlikely that terminal IR would work, cooled IR focal plane or not). It's much easier to build 10X more missiles when they cost 100k each and the defense costs $1M each.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:22:51am |
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:22:55am |
Obama - It's not the media bias - it's the dishonesty. But we knew that.
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:23:15am |
re: #1504 doriangrey
Yup, the .45 has far superior knock down power, persons hit with .45 go down fast, they dont look surprised, stagger around and get a few shots of their own off.
As I like to say, once shot, they STAY shot.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:23:27am |
re: #1468 realwest
And, neither am I--But, things aren't going to be normal afterward--especially when the new laws start coming down. I'll say this--I'm glad I live in a state where we have an alternative in our State Constitution if things get so bad we have to make a choice--God Forbid. But, back to the crux of this posting, I am not offering anything that would advocate violence unless it is warranted, and that would have to be something very extreme. One main reason to purchase guns now, is BHO's going to try and make them illegal to purchase--it'll be much harder to take them away, so if you already have them before Jan 20th, you stand a better chance of keeping them.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:23:40am |
re: #1417 FrogMarch
"The only way democrats win - is if they lie."
And buy the election - with funds from undisclosed sources.
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:24:21am |
re: #1503 nyc redneck
Yes I do love him, and I'm very proud of him too.
It's funny cause I had to beg him not to drive to Baltimore with the sign or PG County. at least not with out some Kevlar.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:24:36am |
Later Lizards... chores beckon.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:24:40am |
re: #1509 windbrother
I'd be more worried about how 0bama's going to handle all that, not McCain.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:24:41am |
re: #1491 Sharmuta
That's what they were hoping for- that you would fall for the "cuteness" factor and thereby falsely focus on 0bama and his words, actions, associates and ideology!
well then they sure overestimated my simpleness...2+2=5!
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:24:42am |
re: #1516 spypeach
Yes I do love him, and I'm very proud of him too.
It's funny cause I had to beg him not to drive to Baltimore with the sign or PG County. at least not with out some Kevlar.
I grew up in Anne Arundel County.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:24:56am |
re: #1496 yma o hyd
Good-oh!
I hope he also gets to look at Zombie's three last reports - total eye-openers for all who thought Ayers was just a neighbour ...
I specifically talked about zombie (and zombietime.com) and the Prarie Fire thingy.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:25:19am |
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:25:24am |
re: #1509 windbrother
1. The solution for defense procurement problems will not be found if energy production is crippled.
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:25:28am |
re: #1509 windbrother
If you want to talk defense, let's do that. Really. How is McCain going to fix procurement?
Yes, let's talk defense. How is Obama going to protect the country?
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Spellcheck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:25:29am |
re: #1473 LonnyE
This country cannot enjoy the prosperity we have become accustomed to without continuing to rely on coal power for many years to come.
The HRC Forum has made it easy to send the video to newspapers in the coal states.
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LEGION Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:25:30am |
re: #1509 windbrother
Ummm, so what- whatever McCain comes up with it will be better than BHO! He'll just slash the military and send half of them packing- you want that?
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:25:58am |
re: #1515 rawmuse
Go tell it to Ophrah, dickcheeze.
ROTFLMAO... There really is something utterly delicious about it when a California Musician says something like that to an obvious liberal nutjob... ;)
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:26:07am |
re: #1432 BlueCanuck
OH, ROTFLMAO! Wished I hadn't missed that!
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:26:10am |
re: #1509 windbrother
I'll say two things to this:
* do you honestly believe that Obama will strengthen the US Armed Forces?
* I strongly advise you to visit Zomblog - you'll find links a few threads below and read at least the last report there. That just might give you an insight into Obama's marxist philosophy which he's tried to hide from his countrymen, with the invaluable help of all MSM.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:26:15am |
re: #1504 doriangrey
Yup, the .45 has far superior knock down power, persons hit with .45 go down fast, they dont look surprised, stagger around and get a few shots of their own off.
Generally speaking. Body armor can make things interesting.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:26:29am |
re: #1509 windbrother
hmmm typical moby tactic, 1.) Agree and praise targets, 2.) Start next section with "However", "But", etc. which completely invalidates previous paragraph. 3.) Brings up talking points that have nothing to do with anything at all.
*WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK*
/meats back on the menu lizards.
//save some for the fridge, lean times are a coming.
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:26:59am |
re: #1520 goddessoftheclassroom
We currently live in a small town in AA Co., it's one small little corner of hope in an otherwise sea of Blue.
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yah Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:27:05am |
re: #1509 windbrother
So let's cut their budget by 25%. That will help./
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:27:06am |
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:27:22am |
re: #1509 windbrother
However, to say that because someone has served the country in the military (or has a child serving now) renders them immune from criticism on policy matters or confers expertise in and of itself is not accurate.
No one here ever said that. You just gave yourself away. Only immature proggies say "how dare you question my patriotism" over and over.
No one cares.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:27:29am |
re: #1509 windbrother
You're no casual follower of things military.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:27:33am |
re: #1494 albusteve
you need one of these then...holster optional
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Believe it or not, I've considered something like that - unfortunately there is not a range w/in driving distance where I could learn how to use it.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:28:03am |
re: #1473 LonnyE
I spent 2 years sleeping less than 150' from a nuclear reactor and lived near it while we tended to try to shake it from it's moorings with "angles & dangles". So, for me NucPower is the only way to go.
/I only glow in one part of my body and it comes in handy for those bathroom trips in the middle of the nite--Myfe™ is thankful for small graces ;-{)
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:28:09am |
re: #1514 realwest
"The only way democrats win - is if they lie."
And buy the election - with funds from undisclosed sources.
Indeed.
George Soros Obama - supported by people named wsdkfddssqt and frtghghgopsissxz.
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:28:09am |
re: #1533 spypeach
We currently live in a small town in AA Co., it's one small little corner of hope in an otherwise sea of Blue.
I know you can't tell me which one, and I haven't lived there for 25 years, but my little patch of suburbia (and it was a glorious childhood) was Glen Burnie Park.
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:28:10am |
re: #1509 windbrother
Why don't you just link to the dem talking points? Saves a lot of copy and paste.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:28:27am |
re: #1495 Dianna
The ones you mix cocktails in? I want a couple boxes for Christmas.
This isn't the exact one (mine are handloads) but it is pretty close.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:28:34am |
re: #1515 rawmuse
Go tell it to Ophrah, dickcheeze.
/Oprah Almost Has Heart Attack When Machine Doesn't Count Her Vote
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gregg Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:28:47am |
re: #1507 kcladderman
It would be interesting to see who those papers endorsed in the last few elections. Might put the whole thing in perspective.
Actually, it does show some of that information. If the circle the circle has a darker edge, that indicates it is a change from the the 2004 election (e.g. a blue circle with a darker blue edge means they endorsed Bush in 2004 and Obama this year). Also, if you hover over the circle it will have more details.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:29:18am |
re: #1518 Sharmuta
I'd be more worried about how 0bama's going to handle all that, not McCain.
Particularly since he doesn't even have a clue about inhalers for asthma - think about it.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:29:18am |
re: #1531 BlueCanuck
hmmm typical moby tactic, 1.) Agree and praise targets, 2.) Start next section with "However", "But", etc. which completely invalidates previous paragraph. 3.) Brings up talking points that have nothing to do with anything at all.
*WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK*
/meats back on the menu lizards.
//save some for the fridge, lean times are a coming.
Might want to salt some of it if BHO wins--he'll cut off our Refrigeration Allotment.
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:29:35am |
re: #1516 spypeach
Yes I do love him, and I'm very proud of him too.
It's funny cause I had to beg him not to drive to Baltimore with the sign or PG County. at least not with out some Kevlar.
i admire him. he reminds me of my dad. "PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN"
these are the guys who give me hope. real hope.
not the obama kind.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:29:39am |
1.) Agree and praise targets, 2.) Start next section with "However", "But", etc. which completely invalidates previous paragraph. 3.) Brings up talking points that have nothing to do with anything at all.
"here again John and I agree"
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:29:42am |
re: #1546 Dianna
Particularly since he doesn't even have a clue about inhalers for asthma - think about it.
I don't get it.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:29:44am |
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:30:09am |
Did YOU send BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY link to Drudge? Just go to his page, scroll down, enter the link into the "Send Tip to Drudge Box." ..then click submit. If enough people send the link he may post it.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:30:20am |
re: #1542 Spirit93
Now, now, no need to disparage the hunt and pecker. After all he did put a lot of work into that post.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:30:30am |
re: #1521 MandyManners
I specifically talked about zombie (and zombietime.com) and the Prarie Fire thingy.
Excellent!
These reports must count as a devastating blast to B0's pretence. Hopefully the last one will be taken up - with hat-tip! - by the talk media tomorrow.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:30:33am |
re: #1551 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sounds like from Mandy-Candy-Trolls.
Who? Me? It's not twue. Not twue.
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gregg Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:30:46am |
re: #1507 kcladderman
It would be interesting to see who those papers endorsed in the last few elections. Might put the whole thing in perspective.
BTW, I don't really give a rat's arse who the newspapers endorse - I just thought it was interesting way to display the information.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:31:18am |
re: #1529 yma o hyd
Is your nic Welsh? What does it mean?
(I had a border collie once - Tramp - fantastic dog!)
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:31:19am |
re: #1546 Dianna
Particularly since he doesn't even have a clue about inhalers for asthma - think about it.
But Sarah Palin wore white after Labor Day!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:31:38am |
re: #1552 unrealizedviewpoint
Did YOU send BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY link to Drudge? Just go to his page, scroll down, enter the link into the "Send Tip to Drudge Box." ..then click submit. If enough people send the link he may post it.
/preferably before Pennsylvania goes blue
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:31:38am |
re: #1530 Dianna
Generally speaking. Body armor can make things interesting.
Body armor generally speaking will save your life against a .45, but even with the body armor a .45 round is going to knock your ass out, and you better wake back up again before who ever shot you decides to pop a round in your head just in case you are wearing body armor...
Oh, and I am actually working on a body armor design that deals with that specific issue... (I'm in the Carbon Composites Industry) ;)
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:32:09am |
re: #1561 doriangrey
Body armor generally speaking will save your life against a .45, but even with the body armor a .45 round is going to knock your ass out, and you better wake back up again before who ever shot you decides to pop a round in your head just in case you are wearing body armor...
Oh, and I am actually working on a body armor design that deals with that specific issue... (I'm in the Carbon Composites Industry) ;)
Oh, that is SO COOL!
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:33:01am |
re: #1479 Dianna
Hi {Dianna} - what's wrong with a S&W .40 "low recoil" handgun - ya can hit what you aim at and plenty of stopping power.
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kcladderman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:33:01am |
re: #1553 BlueCanuck
Now, now, no need to disparage the hunt and pecker. After all he did put a lot of work into that post.
I have heard people called one of those names, but what is a hunt ?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:33:07am |
re: #1556 jaunte
Troll jerky. Euch.
Okay, salted troll, smoked troll, pickled troll, troll pemmican. Any other ideas?
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:33:22am |
re: #1509 windbrother
As far as patriotism goes - I applaud John McCain's service to this country. We owe all veterans a huge debt. And I am a firm believer that every veteran that has served this country deserves the absolute best in health care, both mental and physical, this is available. I believe that all veterans that need them should get C-knees, and generally be given the best. We need more polytrauma centers, we need more and better VA hospitals. {and I'm a firm believer that their system of medical records should be expanded to the whole country!
However, to say that because someone has served the country in the military (or has a child serving now) renders them immune from criticism on policy matters or confers expertise in and of itself is not accurate.
If you want to talk defense, let's do that. Really. How is McCain going to fix procurement?
Just off the top of my head - the Navy wants to go all-nuclear but haven't even started doing the naval architecture studies for lower-class combatant designs. DD(X) and CG(X) are at best going to be funded for 2-3 ships as boutique demonstrators. Virginia class submarines is 46% over budget. LCS is dead in the water - GD and LockMart's demonstrators are not working properly and quite frankly, a Perry-class could sink one - NO organic area air defense, no organic anti-sub capacity, etc. The first in the new San Antonio class out of the shipyards in LA isn't even fit for service and still will probably cost another $300M to correct. The Navy's F-35C still hasn't even had a carrier test flight, much less exited SDD, much less to LRIP and has already breached Nunn-McCurdy limits. The next-generation carriers still haven't gotten the engine designs finalized - they want permanent in-hull electric drive but their preferred inductive design is significantly behind schedule. The Marine's EFV is still 5 years out, is having all kinds of teething problems, and has gone up in cost yet again (NM breach!)
The Air Force is flying a fleet so old that it's already under all kinds of flight restrictions. And JSF costs are through the roof, and as usual the Pentagon is adding requirements left and right that are driving costs through the roof and the costs are rising because the numbers bought are getting smaller and pushed further into the future. What does the Air Force leadership want to do? They could recapitalize the F-16 fleet with Block 60/62s such as we sold to the UAE with AESA that are far superior to anything that we're flying - 5 for the cost of one F-22, I believe. What's on the shelf for the USAF that has the range of a F-14? NOTHING. And cruise missiles? We have still have subsonic non-stealthy options. The rest of the world has gone supersonic two decades ago. Russo-Indian jointly developed BrahMos as an example, and the planned follow-on hypersonic BrahMos II? We don't have anything even in deveopment, and the only stealthy cruise missile we had, the AGM 129, is getting scrapped because of maintenance costs.
Air defense: the SM-3 has an excellent performance record but they terribly expensive and the SM-6 is behind schedule. And the problem of saturation hasn't gone anyway. Iran, china, or NK can throw 5 CSS-1 and/or CSS-2 anti-ship missiles at a carrier group for every SM2 or SM3 we can throw up. Not to mention that the Chinese have finally gotten a conventional ballistic missile naval seeker warhead. Just dump 30 into a basket and uncage the seekers (probably advanced SAR or ISAR; it's unlikely that terminal IR would work, cooled IR focal plane or not). It's much easier to build 10X more missiles when they cost 100k each and the defense costs $1M each.
Just off the top of your head? ...Sure ...How long have you been saving that to cut and paste on a blog where you know there are veterans? ...Call the McCain headquarters and ask them questions ...you wasting your time here with your crap at this late hour ...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:33:51am |
re: #1564 kcladderman
"A key, now where did that A key go to. Oh there it is. . . . "
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:33:57am |
re: #1565 BlueCanuck
Okay, salted troll, smoked troll, pickled troll, troll pemmican. Any other ideas?
Pot roasted gamey buttocks
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:34:13am |
re: #1555 MandyManners
Who? Me? It's not twue. Not twue.
The spouse bought the candy this year. Meaning, we have crap candy. When I buy it? Full size Three Muskateer, Snickers, Butterfingers, and Reeses (2pack).
This year, it looks like she took the top ten list of crap to give away (except the apples, popcorn balls, and toothbrushes) and bought it.
Poor kids.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:34:17am |
re: #1550 mama winger
I don't get it.
Technology, such as Windbrother has been discussing as a procurement issue (and I don't know enough about the process to comment intelligently), requires a basic understanding of science and also of manufacturing issues, both of which translate out as principles and costs.
Obama is unclear on how an inhaler is made and used. And asthma inhalers are ubiquitous.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:34:17am |
re: #1504 doriangrey
I love the 45, but still don't think she could handle it--my point being, I only want to buy one ammo, and haven't seen a 45 weapon small enough for her--I guess that's where I'm coming from--so that's where I'm going with the 9mil or a .40? They can be a smaller, less weigthy gun--like was said above, can't get it on the target, you can't hit it.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:34:27am |
re: #1538 wahabicorridor
Believe it or not, I've considered something like that - unfortunately there is not a range w/in driving distance where I could learn how to use it.
save your money for the range...just pray and spray!...out here on the west mesa there is a 2200 acre range owned by the city of Albuquerque...law enforcement shares it with the public...I've seen all kinds of exotic stuff there but alas never one of these...
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Spirit93 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:34:47am |
re: #1553 BlueCanuck
The quality of trolls these days!
Nodrog is somewhere, shaking his head in dismay.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:35:01am |
re: #1566 JacksonTn
Just off the top of your head? ...Sure ...How long have you been saving that to cut and paste on a blog where you know there are veterans? ...Call the McCain headquarters and ask them questions ...you wasting your time here with your crap at this late hour ...
I wonder if he's posted it at about.com's military site.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:35:18am |
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:35:28am |
re: #1563 realwest
Hi {Dianna} - what's wrong with a S&W .40 "low recoil" handgun - ya can hit what you aim at and plenty of stopping power.
Hi, rw!
Not a thing wrong with a .40 in general. I tend to favor getting the heaviest firepower you can handle, that's all!
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kcladderman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:35:30am |
re: #1557 gregg
BTW, I don't really give a rat's arse who the newspapers endorse - I just thought it was interesting way to display the information.
Oh I don't know of anyone who actually considers a news paper endorsement very important (Except of course those they endorse) .
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:35:50am |
re: #1531 BlueCanuck
hmmm typical moby tactic, 1.) Agree and praise targets, 2.) Start next section with "However", "But", etc. which completely invalidates previous paragraph. 3.) Brings up talking points that have nothing to do with anything at all.
*WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK*
/meats back on the menu lizards.
//save some for the fridge, lean times are a coming.
you could smell the "however, but" coming from the first word of the spew.
lol
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:35:55am |
re: #1568 goddessoftheclassroom
Ah, but we are now talking preservation methods that don't require preservation. But that does have possibilities too you know.
/time to put the BBQ away for awhile I guess.
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:36:10am |
my nightmare is Obama as commander-in-chief and architect of US foreign policy. how McCain handles defense procurement is not an issue to me.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:36:21am |
re: #1575 MandyManners
Here's a possible source:
[Link: lefarkins.blogspot.com...]
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:36:46am |
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arethusa Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:36:47am |
re: #1544 Killian Bundy
/Oprah Almost Has Heart Attack When Machine Doesn't Count Her Vote
On a related topic, I found out this morning that in NC, if you vote a straight ticket, that does NOT include your Presidential vote. You vote for President separately.
So, NC lizards, if you didn't know that, be careful if you're voting a straight ticket. In the last two elections, 2.5-3% of the North Carolinians who have voted, did not cast a vote for President. That's enough to swing that state one way or the other, if the polls there are right.
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:37:21am |
re: #1541 goddessoftheclassroom
When's the last time you've been to Glen Burnie, I'm sure you would be surprised how much it's changed, and not necessarily for the better. Normally, I wouldn't think twice about telling you my town, but with all the crazies lurking about, I suppose I should be careful. Although I do have 2 yorkie watchdogs and a peekapoo ready to attack.
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johngaltlives Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:37:26am |
What he wants to do to the coal industry is what he is going to do to the gun industry. I heard on some lib radio show the other day the idea of putting a $5 per bullet tax on certain ammo. That way they can get aorund the 2nd ammendment by not passing any legislation.
I have already started stocking up.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:37:34am |
re: #1583 jaunte
Here's a possible source:
[Link: lefarkins.blogspot.com...]
I've never seen that one.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:38:23am |
re: #1569 SurferDoc
Body Armor+Head Shot=No Problem
Don't forget knees. Everyone does, but not me.
Knees are forever.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:38:24am |
re: #1587 johngaltlives
What he wants to do to the coal industry is what he is going to do to the gun industry. I heard on some lib radio show the other day the idea of putting a $5 per bullet tax on certain ammo. That way they can get aorund the 2nd ammendment by not passing any legislation.
I have already started stocking up.
Five dollars per bullet? That's fucking nuts.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:38:30am |
A Palestinian shop owner displays mugs for sale featuring portraits of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at a souvenir shop in Gaza City, Sunday, Nov. 2, 2008.
Hope! Change!
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:39:01am |
re: #1573 albusteve
Sometimes the DEA guys show up at my range. I don't know wtf they have - I just call 'em 'cannons'. Very nice guys - if all the lanes are taken, they'll vacate one for me for 30 mins. They call me 'little lady'. I'm 5'4". When I talk to one guy, I' actually looking at his belt buckle.
LOL!
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gregg Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:39:21am |
re: #1487 realwest
Not to mention that should Obama win (shudder) they will have to pay for their OWN military defense and to take care of any natural disasters on their OWN cause Uncle Sam won't have the capacity or the desire to help 'em out.
When the day comes I let GERMANS lecture me about morality, then you know the world's gone nutz.
I know this falls into the "cut off your nose to spite your face" thinking, but if Obama is elected, there is a part of me that hopes he implements his protectionist policies. I say that because I see all these polls on how Obama is overwhelming favored in foreign countries and I think, fine, wait till your no longer able to sell your products in the U.S.
Before people jump all over me, I know it'll drive the world into a depression and we will all suffer greatly - that's why I said "there is a part of me that hopes".
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:39:31am |
re: #1590 Dianna
Don't forget knees. Everyone does, but not me.
Knees are forever.
Or, smack-dab in the center of the thigh.
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:39:45am |
re: #1586 spypeach
When's the last time you've been to Glen Burnie, I'm sure you would be surprised how much it's changed, and not necessarily for the better. Normally, I wouldn't think twice about telling you my town, but with all the crazies lurking about, I suppose I should be careful. Although I do have 2 yorkie watchdogs and a peekapoo ready to attack.
I haven't been back for six years. The house my parents bought in 1968 for $25000 sold for $135000 in 1998. We learned that the current residents were busted for drug dealing. I know it's sad.
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LonnyE Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:39:47am |
re: #1525 Spellcheck
The HRC Forum has made it easy to send the video to newspapers in the coal states.
I don't trust that most newspapers would run with this especially with so little time left.
This is a national issue beyond the coal mining states. Coal power units do not exist solely in the coal mining states.
John McCain and Sarah Palin need to make this is one of their keypoints.
Republican talking heads need to be talking about this now.
Does anyone have a means to reach them quickly?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:39:53am |
Well it's been fun, got some stress relieved and such. But my relief is here and it's time for me to go home and beddy by. See you all later this evening. Stay scaly and keep swinging those clue-by-fours everyone.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:39:58am |
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:40:08am |
re: #1565 BlueCanuck
Okay, salted troll, smoked troll, pickled troll, troll pemmican. Any other ideas?
Freeze-dried Instant Troll with noodles.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:40:11am |
re: #1572 KB55
I love the 45, but still don't think she could handle it--my point being, I only want to buy one ammo, and haven't seen a 45 weapon small enough for her--I guess that's where I'm coming from--so that's where I'm going with the 9mil or a .40? They can be a smaller, less weigthy gun--like was said above, can't get it on the target, you can't hit it.
You do know (heresy I know) that the Colt 1911 isnt the only .45 made, right? Try this...
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arethusa Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:40:44am |
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:40:45am |
re: #1585 arethusa
On a related topic, I found out this morning that in NC, if you vote a straight ticket, that does NOT include your Presidential vote. You vote for President separately.
So, NC lizards, if you didn't know that, be careful if you're voting a straight ticket. In the last two elections, 2.5-3% of the North Carolinians who have voted, did not cast a vote for President. That's enough to swing that state one way or the other, if the polls there are right.
/it's amazing that some States don't use optically scanned "darken the ovals" ballots, half a century old, extremely reliable technology, with a paper trail
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:40:46am |
re: #1513 KB55
BHO's going to try and make them illegal to purchase--it'll be much harder to take them away, so if you already have them before Jan 20th, you stand a better chance of keeping them
That is why I'm expanding my collection now, I hope everyone is.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:41:19am |
re: #1558 wahabicorridor
Is your nic Welsh? What does it mean?
(I had a border collie once - Tramp - fantastic dog!)
It is - it means 'still here', and is the title of a wonderful, patriotic Welsh song ...
Border Collies are amazing dogs - full of character, hugely intelligent - and sometimes too clever by half! I bet you still miss Tramp ...
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:41:30am |
re: #1443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ok, I just got back from Church. We prayed for America's decision on Tuesday. We were told to pray for God's will be done.
So I prayed (sorry, Lord)...
Dear Lord...
If your will is for America to be led by a man who is a friend to terrorists, an closet Socialist, and whose most ardent supporters hate all that America stands for...
then I do not agree with you at all, but, let your will be done.
Amen.
I am literally only able to repeat over and over. . ."Ribbono shel Olam" just calling to G-d, in a plea type way. . .like I am on a cliff and I cannot hold on any longer. . .praying for the end I want, and help if the battle goes ill. . .
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:42:37am |
re: #1596 MandyManners
Or, smack-dab in the center of the thigh.
Oh, yes. They're certainly not getting up after that.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:43:15am |
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:43:52am |
re: #1509 windbrother
Yup. Boy I'm sure glad that no other country has seen fit to, ya know, take on the U.S. military with all of it's shortcomings.
You sure nailed it ok - ONE F-22 Raptor "Shot Down" 14 F-15 eagles in one exercise. Oh and those F-15's which are UNDEFEATED as air-superiority fighters, are being retired as too old.
And everyone knows our Nuclear Powered Aircraft carriers are nothing but targets.
And our ground forces are ALL now combat tested and primed. Who the hell else with any sizeable Armed Forces can say that?
Yup, I sure hope no one attacks us!
For their sake.
Now go quote your bullshit to people who might believe you.
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:44:07am |
re: #1524 Alouette
Granted. But the Pentagon is, quite frankly, in a bad place now.
Half the equipment that's been sent to Southwest Asia will require extensive repair or outright replacement because of the excessive wear and use beyond design lifetimes.
And the replacement equipment is absolutely not ready. Look at the Army's FCS. Cost has doubled, delivery dates are pushed out, and the things that are being proposed are lighter and have less armor than today's M1A2's which are the only thing that has proven effective in urban battlespaces (the Strykers and their cheerleaders notwithstanding, wheeled vehicles that require add-on slat armor to protect against RPGs are not effective. If they ran into an opponent with even light anti-armor portable missiles, they'd be toast. And if you think that the Iranians won't supply them to Shi'a militias in Iraq or to Hezbollah you would be absolutely wrong.
Remember Hezbollah had CSS-2 anti-ship missiles lying around during the Second Lebanon War and managed to almost sink a Saar5 class corvette that was US built and had their own IAI advanced EW and advanced self-defense suite (granted, it took an over-under attack, but we can't expect stupid adversaries if they're backed by Iran).
What about follow-on R&D? DARPA canceled Blackswift, RATTLRS is at least five-ten years out, electromagnetic armor research has stalled to say the least, the US still doesn't have an effective anti-RPG / missile defense like the Israeli Trophy system (which, by the way, we had the arrogance to refuse to buy because it was Israeli and not our own. And LockMart *still* hasn't gotten anything nearly as effective). We don't take advantage of systems we jointly develop or fund the development of. E.g. I'd still take a Python 5 over an AIM-9X. And the Europeans have an excellent BVR AAM (Meteor) that's extremely fast and effective (like a follow-on to the US Phoenix would have been before that was canceled). AMRAAM does not do long-range BVR, and it's not as fast as the Meteor.
And what we do buy is crippled because of stupidty - F22s have stealthy inflight data links to each other but for SATCOM it's conventional and their air-to-ground uses Link 16 which is horribly easy to intercept and track. They don't have new waveforms for them or new JTRS capabilities or any kind of LPI capabilities. Or flank radar coverage, although they have the aperatures for it.
And what we do have has been horribly designed - we're having to backfit cannons onto the V22 Osprey to give it any kind of self-defense capability or support ability for ground troops.
And program overrun after program overrun - ARH has been canceled, as was Comanche. The Kiowas are just going to be used until they rust out if they can keep flying at all. Forget division-level organic air at this level. And the UAVs we have are slow and big. Any respectable AA missile can take down a Predator or Global Hawk. Hell, a SA-2 or SA-6 could do that.
Tell me how the Pentagon is even going to begin fixing that without another couple hundred BILLION dollars per year? And where would that come from besides deficit spending?
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:44:09am |
Got to get something productive done. See y'all later!
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arethusa Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:44:11am |
re: #1443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ok, I just got back from Church. We prayed for America's decision on Tuesday. We were told to pray for God's will be done.
So I prayed (sorry, Lord)...
Dear Lord...
If your will is for America to be led by a man who is a friend to terrorists, an closet Socialist, and whose most ardent supporters hate all that America stands for...
then I do not agree with you at all, but, let your will be done.
Amen.
If Obama wins, we should put that on a placard and sell it at an LGF store. We'll call it "The Fat Bastard Vegetarian's Prayer."
(I've been making a similar prayer lately, but yours has waaay more panache.)
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:44:24am |
re: #1590 Dianna
Don't forget knees. Everyone does, but not me.
Knees are forever.
Good point. I was trained "Center Mass, Double Tap". I never even think about anything lower.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:45:08am |
52% of electricity generation in the US is coal-fueled.
14.8% is nuclear.
On top of that, there is a growing worldwide coal shortage versus demand:
"Despite soaring prices, the U.S. Energy Information Administration has cut projections of U.S. output rather than raised them, and now foresees a total of 1.166 billion short tons by 2010, barely up from a record 1.163 billion in 2006.That is not enough to overcome what some coal officials see as a shortage of 25 million to 35 million tons this year in the 6-billion-ton world market and a shortfall of perhaps 70 million tons next year."
[Link: www.ibtimes.com...]
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:45:18am |
re: #1593 wahabicorridor
my cannon is a 12ga...coupla weeks ago I was at the range and it was so windy that my target load was blowing away at 25yds...so I loaded slugs and the first one went onto the top of the forehead...the second at the top of the throat...decap...I cased it up and went home...hahaha...6$
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:45:39am |
re: #1610 Dianna
Oh, yes. They're certainly not getting up after that.
ROTFLMAO... I have heard, though have no personal experience, that shooting someone in the big toe has a very similar affect except that it adds an enormous comedic affect as well... ;O
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:45:44am |
Et tu, Powerline?
Belgium shrugged
Debie was a senior police officer in Antwerp in 2003 when, according to Diana's account, he and several other officers responded to a report of drunk and disorderly conduct. They were attacked by five Turkish men wielding a baseball bat and a knife (two witnesses testified in court that this attack occurred). After helping to subdue and arrest the attackers, Debie was called away to supervise a SWAT team elsewhere in Antwerp, and his men returned to the station with the Turkish prisoners. The prisoners later claimed they had been beaten and subjected to racism while at the station.
Debie believes that the prisoners were, in fact, beaten. But it is undisputed that he was not involved in any beating or racist utterances. Nonetheless, Debie was charged and convicted of creating an atmosphere in which the offensive statements were uttered, and was given a suspended sentence. Meanwhile, the policeman who admitted to making the "racist" comments went unpunished and now serves, according to Debie, on a "team for managing diversity in Antwerp." The Turks were never charged for their assault on police.
Debie then committed his real "offense." He decided to decided to run for a seat on the Antwerp city council as a member of the Vlaams Belang party. To make matters, he was elected.
Vlaams Belang seeks Flemish independence from Belgium through the political process, and it opposes the Islamization of European culture. Consequently, it is hated by Belgium's left-wing establishment which, as Diana observes, encourages such Islamization "in part to help increase their own constituencies."
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:45:45am |
re: #1610 Dianna
Oh, yes. They're certainly not getting up after that.
Especially if the femoral artery is affected.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:45:47am |
re: #1518 Sharmuta
I'd be more worried about how 0bama's going to handle all that, not McCain.
Obama will shut the whole thing down. All next-generation weapons systems in development will be canceled, including some that're already reaching units - the F-22. The Democrats have already said they will cut the military 25% in 2009.
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:46:08am |
re: #1562 goddessoftheclassroom
I work in nanotechnology and I'm aware of the developments of which you speak. VERY exciting stuff. But the question is - cost, mass-producibility, and can you keep funding going to commericalization in this current economic climate?
The substances of which you speak also are still proving difficult to align properly in bulk and to find the proper matrix material.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:46:17am |
re: #1617 jaunte
52% of electricity generation in the US is coal-fueled.
14.8% is nuclear.On top of that, there is a growing worldwide coal shortage versus demand:
[Link: www.ibtimes.com...]
It's like Total Recall- it is like "selling air"
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:46:54am |
re: #1608 DisturbedEma
I am literally only able to repeat over and over. . ."Ribbono shel Olam" just calling to G-d, in a plea type way.
This is where I am too, only in Gentile-speak.
:)
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yesandno Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:47:17am |
re: #1605 Killian Bundy
/it's amazing that some States don't use optically scanned "darken the ovals" ballots, half a century old, extremely reliable technology, with a paper trail
I agree. The NC ballot I cast was like that. A paper trail was left However, I noted that my ballot was barcoded and linked to my own voter number. So now I really wonder how "secret" my ballot actually was. No doubt the paper trail can be linked back to my signature and voter number.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:47:40am |
re: #1518 Sharmuta
I'd be more worried about how 0bama's going to handle all that, not McCain.
Obama will scrap all of it.
"Reorganize the military"
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:47:58am |
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:48:16am |
re: #1625 mama winger
I am literally only able to repeat over and over. . ."Ribbono shel Olam" just calling to G-d, in a plea type way.
This is where I am too, only in Gentile-speak.
:)
So, we are covered in two religions. . .:)
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johngaltlives Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:48:22am |
re: #1625 mama winger
When the Bible says "he was on his face weeping in prayer..."
I now know what that means.
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VegasRick Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:48:53am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:49:12am |
re: #1623 windbrother
/had to duck in for this one
You are definitely talking out your ass buddy. You just jumped to conclusions, made some assumptions, and REPLIED to the wrong bloody post. And you say you work with nano tech?
/not bloody likely
//maroon
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pat Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:49:21am |
Obama is dangerously stupid. He clearly states that the carbon tax will bankrupt coal, but the money gained will finance wind and solar. Ah...there will be no money, you dolt.
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johngaltlives Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:49:42am |
re: #1632 VegasRick
Great. That means Hannity, Rush et al will pick it up tomorrow.
But I am sure that BO will say it is just a desperate trick by Rove.//
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LonnyE Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:49:45am |
re: #1154 buzzdroid
where are the coal states?
just wondering. isnt pennsylvania a swing state? or ohio?
It is not just a question for the coal mining states. Coal power generation units are in most states.
[Link: www.eia.doe.gov...]
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:50:09am |
Ed Morissey:
"Obama already called for a 15% reduction in demand for electricity — at the same time he and his allies want transportation to switch from gasoline to electricity. Obama never explained this particular contradiction. How does one switch tens of millions of vehicles from gasoline to electricity while not Increasing demand, let alone by cutting it 15%? And when trying to break free from a recession, the nation will need greater production in energy, not a reduction.
The coal-based economics of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, and other states will be the first to feel this new policy. Let’s hope the voters there pay attention."
[Link: hotair.com...]
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:50:25am |
Too bad it's not in Big Red Letters with a siren. Now that would be great.
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vxbush Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:50:53am |
re: #1493 mama winger
The way I understand God to be, He does not approve of folks who would let newborn infants lay on stainless steel tables until they are dead. This would not be His will.
I think I am pretty safe on this one.
Too bad I can't triple upding you.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:51:01am |
re: #1634 pat
Dangerous, yes. Not stupid; he intends the obvious consequences.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:51:03am |
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VegasRick Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:51:19am |
re: #1636 johngaltlives
Great. That means Hannity, Rush et al will pick it up tomorrow.
But I am sure that BO will say it is just a desperate trick by Rove.//
Yep. Just another "distraction".
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arethusa Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:51:30am |
So, a reporter asked Obama when he would take questions from the press. Obama said, "On Wednesday."
///Wednesday is also when the LA Times will release the Khalidi video and I'm betting at least a fifth of Obama voters will wake up with a bad case of buyer's remorse if he wins.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:51:34am |
re: #1628 Racer X
Obama will scrap all of it.
"Reorganize the military"
I could understand the ignorance of many people in the US. . .IF the one was going to any lengths AT ALL of concealing his plans. . .but he is not.
ANY JEW who is not freaked the HELL out by the words he uses outside his Jewish speaking engagements doesn't know their history! Reorganize, redistribute, people behind you getting more, all of these things should be freaking my fellow Jews out to no end. . .and on the heels of bank/economic crisis- Fucking A it is Germany circa 1933, without the treaty of Versallies!
Oy GEVALT!
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:51:43am |
re: #1584 Dianna
re: #1559 Sharmuta
But Sarah Palin wore white after Labor Day!She did?!? Oh, the humanity!
RACISM!
/kos
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:51:48am |
May have already been reported but Coal tape on Drudge ...
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rightymouse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:52:02am |
re: #1613 windbrother
Vote for Obama, brother. He'll get rid of the military and you won't have to worry about any of this.
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johngaltlives Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:52:37am |
re: #1640 vxbush
Not according to her Highness Pelosi and his holiness John Kerry. God seems to be neutral on the murder of the unborn.
I would love to be there when they stand before the Lord on judgement day. It is going to be an OHHH shit! Moment.
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Shr_Nfr Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:52:44am |
re: #1244 realwest
While I obviously do not agree with the White Supremacist sorts, I kinda understand where they are coming from. Four years of 0bama and a Democratic Congress would bankrupt this nation so severely that the country would be in open revolt against them. Perhaps that is why he wants his Brownshirts and "Education Camps". As I commented in one of the spinoffs reference the coal companies, unless we get our act together, we will have brownouts as early as next year. [Link: www.nextgenenergy.org...] It is probable that we may have blackouts in 2010. In so many words, that would totally destroy our economy and would probably outright kill a number of people, through traffic accidents, malfunction of life support systems, etc. Rather than making Africa like us with our standard of living, he is going to make us like Africa with their standard of living.
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kcladderman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:53:02am |
re: #1634 pat
Obama is dangerously stupid. He clearly states that the carbon tax will bankrupt coal, but the money gained will finance wind and solar. Ah...there will be no money, you dolt.
There you go using logic again. Don't you realize you don't need logic when you have HOPE .
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:53:35am |
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:31am |
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:33am |
re: #1629 wahabicorridor
Lovely! But Dafydd Iwan ?
/yes, Tramp was the magic dog...
I knooowww! And he's a Nationalist - which wouldn't be so bad if that party (Plaid Cymru) wasn't to the left of Old Lab ... which is to the left of NuLab
Still - that song is quite good, and as a granny I'm quite happy to remind people that I'm still here, teeheehee!
I'm sure Tramp was magical - anybody who puts in the effort to share their life with a Border Collie gains huge rewards. They're not dogs made for a sedentary person, thats for sure!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:34am |
re: #1623 windbrother
I work in nanotechnology and I'm aware of the developments of which you speak. VERY exciting stuff. But the question is - cost, mass-producibility, and can you keep funding going to commericalization in this current economic climate?
The substances of which you speak also are still proving difficult to align properly in bulk and to find the proper matrix material.
First of all, it was me talking about it, not goddess, and second of all, it doesn't sound like you have a clue what you are talking about. While the company I work for does do some government/military contracting, by and large the majority of our business is civilian.
I am having no problem what so ever with cost, mass-reproducibility, bulk alignment or proper matrix material.
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spypeach Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:41am |
The YouTube video currently has 6,793 views, It will be interesting to see how much that number goes up.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:42am |
Maybe Charles will do a Coal Thread?
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:45am |
re: #1621 MandyManners
Especially if the femoral artery is affected.
I've always wondered how you are supposed to torniquet someone who was trying to kill you less than a minute ago.
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:49am |
re: #1458 MandyManners
So I can burp and scratch?
Burp like you mean it, and get a good echo off a nearby building, and there are some that would declare you a gift from heaven.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:58am |
re: #1561 doriangrey
Is it true that a lower velocity projectile will penetrate kevlar? Say an arrow or crossbow bolt? Or is that myth?
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LonnyE Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:54:59am |
re: #1638 jaunte
Ed Morissey:
The coal-based economics of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, and other states will be the first to feel this new policy. Let’s hope the voters there pay attention."
[Link: hotair.com...]
I'm going to keep gently reminding you all until you get that this is not an issue limited to a few states. Please review my link in 1637.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:55:11am |
re: #1650 Shr_Nfr
As I commented in one of the spinoffs reference the coal companies, unless we get our act together, we will have brownouts as early as next year. [Link: www.nextgenenergy.org...] It is probable that we may have blackouts in 2010. In so many words, that would totally destroy our economy and would probably outright kill a number of people, through traffic accidents, malfunction of life support systems, etc. Rather than making Africa like us with our standard of living, he is going to make us like Africa with their standard of living.
But he'll be "saving the planet"! Stopping global warming! Can't you see?
**gag**
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:55:37am |
re: #1656 spypeach
The YouTube video currently has 6,793 views, It will be interesting to see how much that number goes up.
It's still at 6793. I think the counters stuck. it's been that # forever.
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:55:49am |
McCain about to speak in PA ... I hope someone on his staff reads Drudge ..
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pat Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:55:50am |
So many distraction for Mr Obama. Let us see. For the working man he will destroy:
Coal mining
The light bulb
The military
nuclear power
the drug industry
weapons production
banking
the petroleum industry
Pretty good for openers.
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Shr_Nfr Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:56:07am |
re: #1645 DisturbedEma
The amount of history that is taught about the era in the 1910s->1950s in our public school system is little or nil. The public at large is ignorant and prefer it like that.
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:56:13am |
re: #1566 JacksonTn
Saving? Hardly, I did that post entirely off the top of my head. I chose to work on building products and doing research that will push science rather than work as an analyst in ...certain places in Washington. That's *NOT* because I couldn't. It's just that I didn't want to ride a desk analyzing other people's work.
If you want to talk military history, grand strategy, Pentagon procurement policy, any kind of science / technology, how nanotechnology is evolving, the next RMA and 4G/5G warfare vs. a conventional 3G force, I'd be happy to do it.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:56:29am |
re: #1645 DisturbedEma
6 months ago it was all about the war in Iraq. Thats all the left had. How many "US Out Of Iraq Now!" signs are gathering dust?
US deaths in Iraq plunge to wartime low in October
How in the hell did this idiot get this close to winning the presidency?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:56:34am |
re: #1623 windbrother
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
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LEGION Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:56:55am |
McCain on Fox News speaking at a Rally in Wallingford, PA now.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:05am |
Obama the Wrecker:
"Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars* that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It's just that it will bankrupt them."
* No taxes will be generated from bankrupt energy companies.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:10am |
re: #1664 JacksonTn
McCain about to speak in PA ... I hope someone on his staff reads Drudge ..
/boy, if there was ever a time, now is it
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quickredfox Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:19am |
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arethusa Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:40am |
re: #1664 JacksonTn
McCain about to speak in PA ... I hope someone on his staff reads Drudge ..
Palin's also in OH all day today, multiple events. Hope somebody tells her, too!
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rawmuse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:44am |
re: #1561 doriangrey
Body armor generally speaking will save your life against a .45, but even with the body armor a .45 round is going to knock your ass out, and you better wake back up again before who ever shot you decides to pop a round in your head just in case you are wearing body armor...
Oh, and I am actually working on a body armor design that deals with that specific issue... (I'm in the Carbon Composites Industry) ;)
There is no upside to getting shot at, no matter what you are wearing.
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:47am |
off to see if the chowder is ready. stomach growling, must be lunchtime
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:53am |
re: #1665 pat
So many distraction for Mr Obama. Let us see. For the working man he will destroy:
Coal mining
The light bulb
The military
nuclear power
the drug industry
weapons production
banking
the petroleum industry
Pretty good for openers.
But what about all the freebies he's gonna hand out?
:^/
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:57:56am |
I always suspected YouTube of adjusting the counter numbers. But, I have no data to make such an accusation.
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:58:02am |
re: #1632 VegasRick
hey VegasRick,
haven't seen you in a while. how are you?
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:58:27am |
re: #1637 LonnyE
It is not just a question for the coal mining states. Coal power generation units are in most states.
[Link: www.eia.doe.gov...]
And its especially a question for all industry who needs electricity to produce!
No products - no sales - no work - jobless - in dark, cold or hot houses - and just think of all the work in small businesses which rely on electricity ...
(Only silver lining: MSM Would have to be rationed ... Flip side - no PCs ...)
That man is seriously deluded!
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Shr_Nfr Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:58:27am |
re: #1651 kcladderman
Actually, its a secret code on 0bama's part its not HOPE, its EPOH Every Person On Hemp.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:58:52am |
KB55: Have you considered the Ladysmith 9mm or .357? Good for smaller hands, versatile with ammo. Then you could get one in the same caliber that suits you.
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:58:58am |
re: #1613 windbrother
Tell me how the Pentagon is even going to begin fixing that without another couple hundred BILLION dollars per year? And where would that come from besides deficit spending?
Obama will abolish the Defense Dept. and replace it with the Department of Peace.
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:59:05am |
re: #1678 unrealizedviewpoint
I always suspected YouTube of adjusting the counter numbers. But, I have no data to make such an accusation.
I think the numbers are only updated every so often not per view ...
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:59:06am |
re: #1509 windbrother
What exactly is the alternative when Obama and his fellow Democrats are talking a 25% cut in defense spending? None of the problems you address are going to be solved by cutting spending even further. As it is, we're near historical lows for military spending as a portion of GDP. Cutting that spending even further would only reduce our capabilities going forward, replenishing existing equipment stocks, and reduce the ability to build new technologies going forward.
Heck, cutting defense spending along the lines of what the Democrats propose would have a direct and measurable impact on jobs back home too. And that doesn't even begin to get into what it means for national security and foreign policy.
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realwest Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:59:45am |
Well all y'all Geek Squad is here and I gotta run - I really hope I get the chance to see you all down the road!
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:59:56am |
re: #1658 Dianna
I've always wondered how you are supposed to torniquet someone who was trying to kill you less than a minute ago.
Around the neck
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albusteve Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:00:19am |
re: #1665 pat
So many distraction for Mr Obama. Let us see. For the working man he will destroy:
Coal mining
The light bulb
The military
nuclear power
the drug industry
weapons production
banking
the petroleum industry
Pretty good for openers.
if he lays one hand on the blues or rock and roll he's history...
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Shr_Nfr Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:00:29am |
re: #1671 jaunte
Hell, we can balance the budget and guarantee Social Security with just the revenues of CO2 emissions from that gasbag Biden.
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Dianna Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:01:20am |
re: #1660 KB55
Is it true that a lower velocity projectile will penetrate kevlar? Say an arrow or crossbow bolt? Or is that myth?
Kevlar doesn't stop blades.
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SurferDoc Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:01:29am |
re: #1686 realwest
Well all y'all Geek Squad is here and I gotta run - I really hope I get the chance to see you all down the road!
You'll be back!
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:01:52am |
re: #1673 quickredfox
Beautiful. Spotted the pics of Welsh Ponies too. That's what I drive -- or rather drove, since my old mare passed away. I'm in the process of interviewing a successor.
They're wild, running around on the bleak upland commons. They don't mind the sheep ...
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FrogMarch Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:01:54am |
re: #1644 arethusa
So, a reporter asked Obama when he would take questions from the press. Obama said, "On Wednesday."
///Wednesday is also when the LA Times will release the Khalidi video and I'm betting at least a fifth of Obama voters will wake up with a bad case of buyer's remorse if he wins.
what an arrogant bastard.
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JacksonTn Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:02:13am |
Drudge needs to just link to the video at youtube ...I think it will load faster ...I hope he makes it a headline ...
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:02:13am |
re: #1681 Shr_Nfr
Actually, its a secret code on 0bama's part its not HOPE, its EPOH Every Person On Hemp.
/divide the country into hard working people and riff raff and then check it against party registration, the degree of the positive correlation would amaze you
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Racer X Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:02:21am |
re: #1681 Shr_Nfr
Actually, its a secret code on 0bama's part its not HOPE, its EPOH Every Person On Hemp.
Cute, but hemp does not get you high.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:02:38am |
re: #1661 LonnyE
Ummm.. I pointed it out way above. Every state is affected by Obama's policies. Everyone who pays for electricity will be affected by this. Every business and every homeowner.
No one will escape the effects of Obama's disastrous energy policy plan to bankrupt the coal industry. No one.
All those costs incurred will be passed on. It's what businesses do. They have higher energy costs - and pass them on to the end user. It's what airlines do. It's what all businesses do. Why would anyone expect the energy industry and utilities to do anything different?
Obama's economic policies are as wrong as one can possibly conceive.
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VegasRick Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:02:59am |
re: #1679 nyc redneck
hey VegasRick,
haven't seen you in a while. how are you?
Pretty good, life has just been very busy!
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:03:12am |
re: #1633 BlueCanuck
Oh really? Let's skip the inevitable arguments over credentials for a second. What kind of composites are you talking about then? SWNT / MWNTs have to be properly aligned in a matrix material to hold their resilience. The best that's been so far is to put them into tennis rackets and bicycles. As yet, weaving CNTs into thread has not been adequately done. PECVD CNT techniques still produces vertically grown tangles. Have you ever put those kinds of samples in a SEM or TEM? Or used AFM to test their strength? Not to mention the bloody things have to be handled extremely carefully as they're worse than asbestos. One breathful of those and mesothelemia here you come.
Buckypaper is promising but not terribly far along.
I actually put more faith in the nanoclay composite work done earlier this year that mimics nacre - not to mention it's *much* more cheap to produce by orders of magnitude.
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LonnyE Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:03:13am |
Should we ask Charles to give us a coal power its own thread?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:03:34am |
I agree with Kos...
Republican mayor of San Diego supports gay marriage
by kos
If the GOP hopes to survive into the future, they'll need more of this. That's certainly the case in California, but that will also be the case nationwide in the midterm. A party that has built its power by demonizing government should understand that advocating for government meddling in people's personal lives is a long-term political loser.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:03:46am |
re: #1677 Spiny Norman
But what about all the freebies he's gonna hand out?
:^/
Heh.
Sad, innit, there won't be any, not when whole industries have been laid to waste ... no business > no taxes > no freebies.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:04:33am |
If Obama's tax plan bankrupts an energy company, the assets will be nationalized. The goal is not efficiency of production, but control of production. See Chavez, Venezuela for the pattern.
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razorbacker Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:04:59am |
I LOLed. Out loud. I'm a bad man.
Advertisement and the virtue of audacity.
But wait.
1. Life ain't high school.
B. There are layers of fact-checkers to keep this sort of thing from happening.
3. No-one would even consider attempting this in the real world.
Finally. La-la-la I can't hear you. Buncha poopy-head racists.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:05:12am |
re: #1602 doriangrey
Thanx, Dorian--I knew somoene in here would know about something--that's right on for her, then I can go with what I know very well.
Now, where can I get the 7.7mmJap?
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:05:57am |
re: #1704 jaunte
This is where the bankruptcy part goes awry. Why would you expect the company not to pass along the increased costs? They're not going to internalize them. They'll pass them along to the *ahem* middle class. The energy company isn't the target. It's everyone.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:06:08am |
re: #1701 Killgore Trout
Yeah. The Republican Party should DEFINITELY take advice from Kos on how to make the party stronger and more viable.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:06:11am |
re: #1704 jaunte
If Obama's tax plan bankrupts an energy company, the assets will be nationalized. The goal is not efficiency of production, but control of production. See Chavez, Venezuela for the pattern.
I said the EXACT same thing yesterday about the agriculture sector.
Now, I gotta hop - grocery store beckons
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:06:13am |
re: #1693 FrogMarch
Indeed - and that press conference on Wednesday?
There won't be any when McCain has beaten him!
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victor_yugo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:06:40am |
re: #1696 Racer X
Cute, but hemp does not get you high.
Maybe not, but the rope is good for other things.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:07:06am |
C'mon McCain, you can do it!
/COAL DAMN IT, THE STORY IS HOURS OLD ALREADY!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:07:17am |
re: #1708 mama winger
The video is very touching.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:08:16am |
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LonnyE Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:08:21am |
Ummm.. I pointed it out way above. Every state is affected by Obama's policies. Everyone who pays for electricity will be affected by this. Every business and every homeowner.
Kudos to you. I was not replying to your post. Sorry but not everyone reads everything in a 1000+ post thread from start to finish.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:08:49am |
re: #1701 Killgore Trout
I agree with Kos...
If the GOP hopes to survive into the future...
Why would Markos want the GOP to "survive" at all? Wasn't he advocating its complete and permanent destruction only a couple of weeks ago?
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:08:49am |
re: #1690 Dianna
Kevlar doesn't stop blades.
IIRC, Kevlar fibers are very difficult to break, so a Kevlar weave is very effective against something, like say a bullet, that hits a fairly large cross section of the weave. Something with a fine point, like an arrow or knife tip, just forces its way between the fibers and the sharp edge will then cut the fibers as well.
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:08:53am |
I guarantee Rush will hammer away on this coal story tomorrow.
Pretty juicy election eve story when several key states are major coal producers.
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jaunte Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:08:55am |
re: #1707 lawhawk
When cost increases are passed to the consumers, look for 'windfall profits' complaints to rise, then the government will have to step in to 'protect the consumer.'
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:09:38am |
re: #1685 lawhawk
And again, I never said I supported Obama. You're reading things into my statements that aren't there.
I'm not proposing cutting defense - but where's the money going to come from? We're bailing out Wall Street, etc, to the tune of more than the defense budget now and that's just in the last two months. Let's not forget all the Treasury's additional programs, like lowering the reserve requirements, paying interest on such reserves, the commercial paper lending facility, re-opening the discount window to all sorts of institutions, the AIG and Bear Stearns bailouts - that's probably at least $1.5T in spending there.
And that doesn't count the $200B in operational expenditures for Southwest Asia.
The current occupant of the White House added yet another entitlement albatross to this country's neck called Medicare Part D. And an unfunded mandate called NCLB to the Department of Ed.
We need to re-up on a lot of things with defense?
But what about infrastructure spending? It's clear that the federal highway funding mechanism is a disaster - when road travel gets cut back, so do revenues. And you've read the ASHRAE / American Society of Civil Engineers reports, no? We need $150B/year to fix our crumbling infrastructure.
Where do you propose to get all the money to do this? We can't deficit spend forever and quite frankly at some point the rest of Asia will get tired of purchasing our debt. Right now, financially, we don't compare so well to countries that have required IMF bailouts. We need to get our own fiscal house in order.
What happened to pay-as-you-go spending rules? Or are we all Keynesians now?
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arethusa Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:09:52am |
I'm watching the McCain rally in PA. Every time I see the candidates holding a rally, I can't help but contrast them:
1 - McCain and Palin always call on the vets to identify themselves and thank them for their service. I think I have seen Biden do this (not sure), but never Obama. Has anyone?
2 - McCain/Palin crowds chant "U-S-A, U-S-A!" Obama crowds chant "Obama, Obama." (To be fair, Palin's crowds often chant "Sarah! Sarah!" but never ad nauseam.)
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:09:55am |
re: #1712 Killian Bundy
C'mon McCain, you can do it!
/COAL DAMN IT, THE STORY IS HOURS OLD ALREADY!
Hours old yes, but not prominent enough for the campaign to notice till now.
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taejohndo Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:10:10am |
re: #1658 Dianna
I've always wondered how you are supposed to torniquet someone who was trying to kill you less than a minute ago.
Put around their neck ...
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quickredfox Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:10:34am |
re: #1692 yma o hyd
They're wild, running around on the bleak upland commons. They don't mind the sheep ...
Something interesting I've seen in the Welsh Pony foals I know, or at least the line mine came from. As babies they were wild as foxes. We would handle them a lot, but they would stay very cautious, even with the friendliest mothers. Then at some point getting toward a year old, they would turn friendly. I would joke that it must be a cultural memory of when Henry the Eighth picked on ponies. Good survival instincts.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:10:55am |
re: #1718 alien_mind
I guarantee Rush will hammer away on this coal story tomorrow.
Pretty juicy election eve story when several key states are major coal producers.
McCain is on the TV right now, in Pennsylvania.
/it would be big, huge bonus points if he would at least mention it
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:10:56am |
People who aligned themselves with the Republican Party only after the events of 9-11 are often dismayed to find that there were some of us already here, for quite a while actually, and that we are conservative.
Imagine that.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:11:26am |
re: #1720 windbrother
And again, I never said I supported Obama. You're reading things into my statements that aren't there.
You don't have to say it. We can read between the lines.
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VegasRick Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:11:36am |
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rightymouse Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:12:01am |
re: #1726 mama winger
People who aligned themselves with the Republican Party only after the events of 9-11 are often dismayed to find that there were some of us already here, for quite a while actually, and that we are conservative.
Imagine that.
I wasn't dismayed at all. In fact, I was thrilled. :)
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DisturbedEma Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:12:02am |
re: #1666 Shr_Nfr
The amount of history that is taught about the era in the 1910s->1950s in our public school system is little or nil. The public at large is ignorant and prefer it like that.
I expect better from my fellow Jews. . .
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:12:07am |
re: #1701 Killgore Trout
I agree with Kos...
Mayor Jerry Sanders is not too conservative on social issues like that, has kind of a "Live And Let Live" attitude. His support of the local gay community is well known. Such attitudes served him well when he was our police chief some years ago.
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:12:12am |
re: #1725 Killian Bundy
McCain is on the TV right now, in Pennsylvania.
/it would be big, huge bonus points if he would at least mention it
If he does not get the word for this particular event, there are many others scheduled for today and I would hope that the campaign could re-work the speeches in time for those events.
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Joan Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:12:34am |
This excerpt describes the journalistic field of battle in which we see fuition of Alinsky tactics, that is, the point where followers no longer require instigation or direction, but rather on their own engage in actions, gleeful and malicious, in behalf of the movement. In the "public sector" we see this acted out in illegal snooping and leaks about people, like, you know Joe the Plumber. This process is far advanced in our society, thanks to relentless deconstruction of ethical and moral absolutes, and the ubiquitous socialist indoctrination in pop culture, in classrooms, in churches. Anyway, here's the quote:
“The process [of mass-media deception] has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies all this is indispensably necessary.” George Orwell in the book 1984
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mama winger Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:12:39am |
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:13:56am |
re: #1660 KB55
Is it true that a lower velocity projectile will penetrate kevlar? Say an arrow or crossbow bolt? Or is that myth?
It's a myth based on a failure to understand how Kevlar stops projectiles. What will penetrate Kevlar, in a non-rotating projectile. The way Kevlar works isnt that it is so strong that nothing can penetrate it, but a combination of it's tensile strength and what is called it's weave.
In terms of tensile strength Kevlar is about 5 times stronger than steal, but that alone is not what stops the projectile. As the projectile travels it spins (spin stabilization ) when it hits the Kevlar the weave of the Kevlar literally catches the projectile and wraps around the projectile stretching as it does so causing the kinetic imprint to massively expand and dissipating the transfer of kinetic energy to the point that it is no longer lethal.
What I am working on is a process that will dramatically increase the distribution of kinetic force over a significantly larger area and reduce the non-lethal kinetic force that transfers from the projectile.
Basically it's this, 1000 fps applied to a 2 square centimeter area will penetrate over 2 inches of hardened steal or an inch of Kevlar. That same 1000 fps applied to 1 square foot will not penetrate. It is however still a substantial transfer of kinetic energy. What I am working on dramatically increases the area while significantly diminishing the kinetic transfer.
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yma o hyd Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:15:25am |
re: #1724 quickredfox
Something interesting I've seen in the Welsh Pony foals I know, or at least the line mine came from. As babies they were wild as foxes. We would handle them a lot, but they would stay very cautious, even with the friendliest mothers. Then at some point getting toward a year old, they would turn friendly. I would joke that it must be a cultural memory of when Henry the Eighth picked on ponies. Good survival instincts.
Thats interesting!
They would need to have good survival instincts - the commons above the coal valleys are very bleak indeed - exposed, hardly any shelter, icy winds, snow ...
Well, the SAS does their survival training there - gotta be hard even for ponies!
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JimCap Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:15:31am |
Wow! Kudos on this. But you know, at this point, I feel this is "comfort food" for us. I sent this to a bunch of friends and family, most didn't respond. But two of them who voted for Bush twice said they "don't care" about any of this or any other socialist leanings of Obama. They're just convinced that he's better and that McCain is going to go after the things they're now dependent on: Social Security and Medicare.
People who were for Bush in the past are now actually admitting their voting for BHO! Two guys at work, who have always voted Republican now make "Palin Jokes" every day. I'm sick of it.
I keep on looking for good news with this election but I'm not finding it. I'd hate to think that we have to depend on "hope" at this point.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:17:30am |
re: #1716 Spiny Norman
Why would Markos want the GOP to "survive" at all?
He was expressing his own personal wish. His quote was...
If the GOP hopes to survive into the future, they'll need more of this. That's certainly the case in California, but that will also be the case nationwide in the midterm. A party that has built its power by demonizing government should understand that advocating for government meddling in people's personal lives is a long-term political loser.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:18:17am |
re: #1732 CyanSnowHawk
He seems like a stand up kinda guy.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:18:24am |
re: #1682 SurferDoc
Thanx, SurferDoc, another good one--now, she may have some choices for comfort--I can always find one for me--has to have an extra-large grip, but I can do that.
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alien_mind Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:20:22am |
re: #1725 Killian Bundy
McCain is on the TV right now, in Pennsylvania.
/it would be big, huge bonus points if he would at least mention it
it would be huge to get the story out today. they actually had the time to do it too. where is their rapid strike team when you need it?
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:20:37am |
re: #1720 windbrother
I was against the bailout and as we're already seeing, the companies that got money were using them to pay for mergers, acquisitions, and compensation for workers - including bonuses. The crisis was never as bad as we've been led to believe, and the bailout never addresses the underlying problem of subprime lending forced upon lenders by Congress who wanted to increase affordable housing (yeah, really affordable when you're facing a $700 billion price tag for this one portion of bailout).
If you really care about the nation, you've got to prioritize. National defense first. Period. The social programs? Haven't worked, and Obama's proposals would add trillions in spending that we don't have. His fellow Democrats propose Socialism Take 401(k), as though that's the cure. It will destroy wealth and capital creation. Not my cup of tea.
States hope for bailouts as well, despite their profligate spending on programs of dubious worth. It's time that people focus on what's crucial and essential. That means they've got to quit with the nonsense like padding state workers compensation packages and increasing their ranks even as populations decline - see NJ for that. It means spending on education and infrastructure rather than pushing into areas like state funded stem cell research (again, the NJ example of what the state attempted to do).
NY's solution is to raise taxes and fees, and may only as a last resort consider some cuts to state and city workforce. Instead of demanding accountability and efficency from government, we've gotten bloated governments offering up failed solutions and waste.
Lowering taxes has been shown to work at reducing the deficits and increasing productivity and tax revenues. What we've seen over the past 20 years is interest groups getting tax breaks and manipulation of the tax code to fund pet projects via tax credits, incentives, etc. That must end.
Obama intends to make that situation even worse.
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Aviator Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:24:50am |
re: #1658 Dianna
I've always wondered how you are supposed to torniquet someone who was trying to kill you less than a minute ago.
Around the neck.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:25:05am |
re: #1736 doriangrey
Yes, but will my crossbow bolt penetrate if need be> A head shot is very nice shooting, but in rapid fire, non-auto (bolt) center mass is always better. I have both.
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Joan Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:25:15am |
The end justifies the means. By any means necessary. One man's lie is another man's nuance.
Liars.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:25:52am |
re: #1717 CyanSnowHawk
IIRC, Kevlar fibers are very difficult to break, so a Kevlar weave is very effective against something, like say a bullet, that hits a fairly large cross section of the weave. Something with a fine point, like an arrow or knife tip, just forces its way between the fibers and the sharp edge will then cut the fibers as well.
Kevlar is effective against any projectile that spins and that included arrows. As Diana notes however it's nearly useless against sharp non rotating projectiles like knives swords axes or pikes. The weave used now a days in most Kevlar products is very fine, similar to that seen in silk or synthetic fibers like nylon or rayon.
Originally the fibers were very course like burlap, but then it was discovered that high velocity full metal jacketed rounds would simply push the wider fibered weaves aside and tunnel through the armor. So an adaption was developed with a finer fibered weave to prevent that from happening. And of course also the addition of ceramic alloy plates... ;)
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Joan Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:27:48am |
re: #1743 alien_mind
it would be huge to get the story out today. they actually had the time to do it too. where is their rapid strike team when you need it?
Sometimes I think the campaign was riddled with moles. Sabotage and betrayal and lack of discipline. Scott McClellan to the tenth power...
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:28:29am |
re: #1746 KB55
Yes, but will my crossbow bolt penetrate if need be> A head shot is very nice shooting, but in rapid fire, non-auto (bolt) center mass is always better. I have both.
For most Kevlar if your crossbow bolt has a bladed tip and does not rotate, then yes. But if the bolt rotates for stability then no.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:28:55am |
re: #1748 doriangrey
DG, I don't think my crossbow bolts soins, not much if any. But, it's a pretty close in weapon vs. a rifle or compound bow.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:32:02am |
re: #1750 doriangrey
We caught up to each other--don't mind my spelling--that's what I thought--and is bladed tip--doesn't come out easy. Just wondering if should invest in more of those along with ammo.
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:33:41am |
re: #1612 realwest
The F22 was flying against F15s that did not have AESAs or upgraded EW capabilities. That's like shooting fish in a barrel . The F15 was designed, in its age [or rather, the Soviets designed against it] to face Su-27s and MiG-29s.
And the opponents of the F22 will be Su-30MKI+ upgrades or follow-on Su-35s. The Chinese have a lot. And Venezuela is acquiring at least 24. You are running red herrings. The F15 has not been heavily upgraded and if it faced a Su-30MKI derivative you can be assured that it would be toast, AIM-9(x) and AMRAAM notwithstanding, because of the radar disparities.
The F22 was / is designed to face the Su-35/37 and follow-on PAK.FI as well as the Chinese J10 and J11 fighters that are now coming online.
And how many F22s are we buying? Not very darn many. And they don't have very good legs either. They are dependent on tankers which quite frankly are old as dirt. The KC-135s require escorts to keep from getting killed and in a hot combat zone would be based hundreds of miles outside. And the fact remains that against China, which is a real quantity-vs-quality situation, they can throw up at least ten Mig-25+ and/or Su-27+ aircraft for every F-22 we could possibly get in there. If we go up against them over Taiwan, do you think that Kadena and Elmendorf won't be targeted? As for Kadena, you only need, say, 50-75 conventional SRBMs with conventional warheads to wreck the place for weeks. Or a few dozen cruise missiles. It wouldn't be very hard for them to hit SK, Kadena / Japan, and the airfields in Taiwan we're pre-positioned in one fell swoop. That is, after all, what they've been training for and stockpiling 100s of ballastic missiles per year to do.
I'd go down the list to address your misconceptions but even one at a time that takes time.
As far as testing our forces - Saakashvilli and everyone else admits openly that we have to pause - our forces are getting so much combat that they're not getting the breaks they need. we are losing a good number of the junior officers that we need to form the backbone of the force 10 years from now because the operational tempo is so damn high and they don't get to spend time with their families.
We're probably going to leave 1/3 of the equipment in Southwest Asia there now over there when we leave - it's just that worn out. We're running on empty, we have no operational reserves anymore because of the surge. What happens if SK goes up because of NK? Or any other trip points in the world? What if, G*d help us all, Iran goes up in flames? We have no reserves left.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:34:08am |
I guess everyone went to the new thread, this is my out for today.
Everyone keep their faith and pray that we prevail.
Probably see you Tuesday nite.
TTFN™
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windbrother Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:38:30am |
re: #1738 JimCap
Well the truth is somewhere along the lines someone's going to have to "go after" the entitlement programs or else they'll bankrupt us. What and how is another story. The words "means testing" have to become palatable. They are not the devil and will play a large role in at least staving off the day of reckoning. People that do NOT need Social Security / Medicare (e.g. rich retirees) should not get it. FDR did not intend for that to happen and it shouldn't. It is not a national pension for everyone. It is for those that can't afford it. And frankly, I'd rather it happen now rather than later. The sad truth is there won't be a retirement age - no one will stop working now until they can't. I don't think my generation (X or Y) will see retirement. Ever.
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haakondahl Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:40:02am |
re: #1750 doriangrey
For most Kevlar if your crossbow bolt has a bladed tip and does not rotate, then yes. But if the bolt rotates for stability then no.
Sorry--I'm not buying the rotation thing. Take a rifling of 7:1. The bullet rotates only 1/7th of a turn in travelling its own length (I think). If the entire kevlar layer is only half the length of a bullet, then the bullet only rotates 1/14th on passing completely through the kevlar. That doesn't strike me as enough.
I'm not sure what the rifling ratio actually measures, and I don't have any detailed knowledge of the structure of kevlar. But so far I'm not conveniced of your explanation.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:40:26am |
re: #1752 KB55
We caught up to each other--don't mind my spelling--that's what I thought--and is bladed tip--doesn't come out easy. Just wondering if should invest in more of those along with ammo.
That or follow Diana's example and readjust your targeting priorities to take advantage of the inherit limitations of body armor.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:43:07am |
re: #1753 windbrother
Pseudo-experts like you are always touting "the death of American hegemony" and claiming that US hardware would be "toast" against Soviet/Russian equivalents, but whenever actual combat occurs, the Russian stuff can't even put up much of a fight.
You really are an idiot.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:45:53am |
re: #1755 windbrother
The sad truth is there won't be a retirement age - no one will stop working now until they can't. I don't think my generation (X or Y) will see retirement. Ever.
OK, now I'm convinced. You are a complete moron.
Who says we have ONLY government programs to rely on? My god, why don't you go jump off a bridge and get it over with?
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mahatma coat Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:50:47am |
gee spiny ,who pissed in your cornflakes ?You seem in rather bad form today
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:54:10am |
re: #1757 doriangrey
DG, hoping to stop someone way before a knie comes into it--have a good one with non-slip handle, but was a submariner so no hand-to-hand training. We tend to like to add tonnage from a distance (the 7.7 is 1000m accurate--no guaranty on head shot tho--steel sights) and crossbow is probably good to 30; inside 20, headshot with pistol is just dandy. Gets to knives--I'm in trouble.
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KB55 Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:57:36am |
1761 Cont.
Now, at 4 ft. I'll take sword to his knive--fencing in college and have a nasty broadsword that I am fairly deadly with, or would be put to the test.
Check my website sometime.
Out & out.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 10:06:08am |
re: #1756 haakondahl
Sorry--I'm not buying the rotation thing. Take a rifling of 7:1. The bullet rotates only 1/7th of a turn in travelling its own length (I think). If the entire kevlar layer is only half the length of a bullet, then the bullet only rotates 1/14th on passing completely through the kevlar. That doesn't strike me as enough.
I'm not sure what the rifling ratio actually measures, and I don't have any detailed knowledge of the structure of kevlar. But so far I'm not conveniced of your explanation.
No, 7:1 means that it takes 7" of bore for the twistes in the bore to make one complete rotation. 1/7th of a turn at 2000 fps equal at rotation velocity of around 34,000 rpm
The equation is ( R = (12/T) * V ) in this case it's R=(12/.7) * 2000 for a rotational velocity of (R) of 34285.7 rpm.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 2, 2008 10:07:25am |
re: #1760 mahatma coat
gee spiny ,who pissed in your cornflakes ?You seem in rather bad form today
Armchair military and technology "experts" who don't know jack shit, yet try to convince us that we are doomed to second-rate status unless we do what they think we should.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 2, 2008 10:17:59am |
re: #1761 KB55
DG, hoping to stop someone way before a knie comes into it--have a good one with non-slip handle, but was a submariner so no hand-to-hand training. We tend to like to add tonnage from a distance (the 7.7 is 1000m accurate--no guaranty on head shot tho--steel sights) and crossbow is probably good to 30; inside 20, headshot with pistol is just dandy. Gets to knives--I'm in trouble.
If that is you, then you rock dude... Of course now you have to check out my site... ;p
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gettinby Sun, Nov 2, 2008 10:37:04am |
re: #1572 KB55
I love the 45, but still don't think she could handle it--my point being, I only want to buy one ammo, and haven't seen a 45 weapon small enough for her--I guess that's where I'm coming from--so that's where I'm going with the 9mil or a .40? They can be a smaller, less weigthy gun--like was said above, can't get it on the target, you can't hit it.
You both may like the Walther PPS .40. Great for conceal-carry.
/disclosure: I'm a woman, small hands, a little arthritic, and this gun is deliciously comfortable. I did end up with it in a 9mm though. Just fit me better with my shooting abilities.
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bungie Sun, Nov 2, 2008 10:58:06am |
re: #577 jamie
That's just dumb, and cheapens both the fight against real anti-Semitism and the legitimate arguments against Obama's candidacy. He's as anti-Semitic as Joe Lieberman.
Where in the world have you been Jamie? Have you ever listened to the Reverend Wright's sermons? Or Farrakhan's speeches? Obama sat in that audience for 20 years! And exposed his children to that stuff. No one who is not anti-semitic would have done that.
There's more. See whatever the LATimes is holding back. What do you think that is about?
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mahatma coat Sun, Nov 2, 2008 12:08:10pm |
re: #764 His Royal Highness
Ive noticed the tone of comments (over several threads ) is fairly agressive tonite ,pre-election tension or what?
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mahatma coat Sun, Nov 2, 2008 12:12:47pm |
bizarre...my comment #1764 was meant to be posted 2 threads forward but suddenly the page changed and it ended up on this one
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FlakMusic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 12:56:01pm |
re: #1207 windbrother
I'd really like to know how you feel about her and her qualifications.
I feel sanguine. I know that she's more qualified to be President of the United States than Barack Hussein Obama.
It should be noted, however, that Palin is a VP candidate, whereas the inexperienced and unqualified BHO is running for President.
What about the fake Sarkozy phone call yesterday that's now plastered all over? This points to a larger issue of her handlers and aides being competent - and I believe that this is an *extremely* relevant point.
I thought that was funny, but extremely irrelevant. The real Sarkozy, BTW, has called Obama's position on Iran dangerously naive. If elected she'll probably be too busy to answer prank calls.
What about Todd Palin's membership in a political party that supports secession from the United States? How is that not relevant?
Also irrelevant given that Todd Palin isn't now currently a member, and also isn't running for anything. That said, if BHO is elected, such parties will experience a surge in membership and look decidedly more mainstream.
BHO (the candidate), however, has himself been a member of numerous organizations founded or lead by marxists, socialists, and anti-American Black Liberation Theologians.
This actually worries me much, much more that anything the Republican VP nominee's husband has ever done.
And you know what? Sarah Palin is way, way hotter than Joe Biden...
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FlakMusic Sun, Nov 2, 2008 1:09:24pm |
re: #1493 mama winger
The way I understand God to be, He does not approve of folks who would let newborn infants lay on stainless steel tables until they are dead. This would not be His will.
I think I am pretty safe on this one.
Yes. God is on record as calling for the destruction of peoples that sacrifice their offspring to idols. In the case the idol is "choice."
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Charles Johnson Sun, Nov 2, 2008 9:11:32pm |
re: #1771 FlakMusic
Yes. God is on record as calling for the destruction of peoples that sacrifice their offspring to idols. In the case the idol is "choice."
Oh really? God himself is "on record" calling for people to be destroyed?
Did He call your cell phone and tell you that? Can I hear that voicemail?
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