Overnight Open Thread
People have to learn sometimes not only how much the heart, but how much the head, can bear.
— Maria Mitchell
People have to learn sometimes not only how much the heart, but how much the head, can bear.
— Maria Mitchell
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Fiery Red XIII Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:15pm |
wiki hacked! Sorry for language, but it had "n*****shit" pasted across J.M./S.P.'s pages 2 mins ago. I do not know how to save screenshots!
Red
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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rawmuse Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:59:27pm |
Thank you, Charles, for all your tireless work on this site and others.
You have done yeoman's duty.
We all have done what we could do.
OK, all except for Kilgore...
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:25pm |
Killgore is not the enemy, people!
Focus on what IS the enemy. Figure out what YOU are going to do about it.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:45pm |
Ok, I'm out for the night but Republicans should remember that they are the BIG WINNERS. McCain/Palin was a great idea and it worked out fantastically. Those who say otherwise are poopyheads!
/Rock on!
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:45pm |
Coleman up 49000 with 71% reporting.
I can go to bed as soon as it seems like he's beyond any threat from absentee voting.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:56pm |
Sigh.
About ready to drop some serious coin on "homeland"... Didn't want to have to buy anything like that now... The future makes it necessary. Stuff that might be banned or restricted needs to be acquired.
Which Obama are we going to get? How soon will we know?
I wouldn't want to be him for all the tea in China. The whole world thinks you're a god, you might well think you're a god, you owe Soros the kingdom, and even though you only have your Learners Permit, you've just been given the keys to the most expensive Formula 1 car in the world and told to go win the Championship. You owe everybody something. Expectations are about as high as they could possibly be for any one human being.
Good luck Barry, please don't fuck us all. G-d is watching and so are we.
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Tarkus289 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:57pm |
It is pretty amazing that this particular time in history will be taught in the history classes in the year 3000, that is how significant the the events of the last 8 years and next couple of years are.
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BirdFLU Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:15pm |
A couple thoughts on our new president:
He can't possibly live up to the expectations placed on him, some of which he is responsible for. What will be the reaction from people when he doesn't live up to the hype?
Will the professional complainers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson now shut their mouths?
Who will be the first prominent African American to say that Obama is "not really black?"
Who said, "The people get the government they deserve?"
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:25pm |
"homeland security", I meant above. Left out a word.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:38pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Ok, I'm out for the night but Republicans should remember that they are the BIG WINNERS. McCain/Palin was a great idea and it worked out fantastically. Those who say otherwise are poopyheads!
/Rock on!
Go on, you can continue to make an ass of yourself, and we can continue to ignore you.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:52pm |
re: #5 Sharmuta
Killgore is not the enemy, people!
I'm not so sure about that but thanks for the sentiment.
/G'nite for real
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:55pm |
Charles, are you still riding your bike? I miss the Cycle of Violence threads.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:03:40pm |
Now it's time for the GOP to look into it's "rule book" and find some real conservatives to start grooming for future races.
Let's face it, many of us were not happy with McCain as the presidential choice. We we not happy with the spending the Bush administration has been doing over the last 4 years. We have not been happy with the bailouts.
So, if we have been unhappy with so much of the GOP, it's no wonder that the rest of the country has been having an identity crisis in regards to true conservatism.
A lot of the outcome of this election can be laid right in our own parties lap.
Obama has his work cut out for himself if he really wants to unite the country. We have our work cut out for ourselves if we want to see a conservative part which is truly conservative again.
It's all up to us.
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Fiery Red XIII Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:01pm |
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Get a screen shot PLS!Red
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:09pm |
This is the culmination of 40 years of rot in our institutions, caused by Gramscian infiltration of our educational system, media, and entertainment, to which is added a heavy dollop of celebrity culture.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:53pm |
We will live to fight another day.
Sleep well, lizards.
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:56pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
What are you going to do to stem the tide of collectivism?
Escape on one of my new tax-free cruises!
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:02pm |
The Overnight thread is here already. Do I have to go to bed?
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:15pm |
Are there any Washington Lizards here? Gregoire is ahead of Rossi?
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:37pm |
"It's exciting; I don't know whether I'm going to win or not. I think I am. I do know I'm ready for the job. And, if not, that's just the way it goes."
- George Bush
/no shit
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:52pm |
re: #9 Tarkus289
It is pretty amazing that this particular time in history will be taught in the history classes in the year 3000, that is how significant the the events of the last 8 years and next couple of years are.
I am hoping they will prove to be utterly insignificant, and Obama will be as well remembered as Martin Van Buren, James K. Polk, and Franklin Pierce.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:05pm |
Off to bed now... Sad, but hopeful that we cam overcome this. Being President seems, at first , to be the top job. Unfortunately it carries with it the most difficult job anyone could ever imagine. Good luck to "President ' Obama. May God have mercy on his soul.
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lizard by the bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:31pm |
So, when does Al Qaeda attack next? I guess if Joe Biden is correct, sometime in late January.
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rawmuse Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:48pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
What are you going to do to stem the tide of collectivism?
Collectivism now has guns and badges, or will very soon.
BUT Obama still has to put his hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the US Constitution.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:05pm |
If I wake up tomorrow morning and see hateful, extreme comments in this thread, accounts will be blocked. If you can't control yourself, don't post here or it will be your last comment at LGF.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:07pm |
The idea of making your own way is much more appealing to the hearts of men and women than the idea of taking handouts. We just have to make people believe that it can be done. America was founded by people who were absolute in their beliefs they could make it on their own. That spirit is not gone, it's just not being elucidated by those that we've put in power.
Let's get back to what speaks to the heart of Americans. Let's start making people believe they are strong, not that they need others to support them.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:28pm |
re: #10 BirdFLU
Who said, "The people get the government they deserve?"
"Every nation has the government it deserves" - Joseph de Maistre (who was either a genius or an asshole, depending on who you ask, but who was apparently right on the money with this quote).
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:38pm |
"Where annual elections end, there slavery begins." - John Adams
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:00pm |
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:26pm |
fuck all y'all... this is the LNDT, and by gawd, if there was ever a night we needed to be drinking, this is it.
/CHEERS!
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:29pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
Where are you, Grant Park?
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:31pm |
Oh yes there are Pumas and the silent majority, and great American voters out there. Zip. nothing happened. and all these "best wishes" from the blogs. it make sick
Maybe Obama's head won't contain his ego and explode on nationwide tv.
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Tarkus289 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:34pm |
re: #26 doppelganglander
The last 8 years includes 9/11, I knew that day that was an epic event that will never be insignificant, not that it stopped the left from trying to minimize it.
It will be remembered more in 500 years than it is now. Trust me.
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Sprite Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:38pm |
I didn't see a sarc tag on your congrats to Obama, Charles, two threads below. When I came here to commiserate, that is truly the last thing I expected to see.
?
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:00pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:03pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
Where is here? What kind of hell are you talking about? You report, we want to know.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:15pm |
re: #8 Pawn of the Oppressor
Sigh.
About ready to drop some serious coin on "homeland"... Didn't want to have to buy anything like that now... The future makes it necessary. Stuff that might be banned or restricted needs to be acquired.
Indeed,
I was thinking the exact same thing.
I'll likely be dropping a few K on hardware and software.
If its any consolation (and its not) tough times might make the hardware cheaper, in the short term.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:17pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
In your neighborhood? Or the country?
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freedom rings Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:29pm |
Overseas reaction? Here's for starters, UK TimesOnline:
Yesterday’s results were head-spinning stuff. In electing Barack Obama president by a solid margin, accompanied by a congress with the biggest Democratic majority since the 1970s, Americans have signalled a dramatic change in the direction of the world’s sole superpower.
The country regarded loftily by many Europeans as hopelessly racist and irredeemably right wing has voted to be ruled by a black man, at the head of a party committed to economic redistribution and a foreign policy rooted in peaceful diplomatic engagement.
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
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lizard by the bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:59pm |
The election of the most dangerous, Socialist, inexperienced, immature, egotistical America-hating President... is the final legacy of George W. Bush. Ding me down if you want, but you know it's true.
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:10pm |
Wikipedia revenge at its best from the McCain page
McCain lost his bid for the Republican nomination in the 2000 presidential election to George W. Bush. He ran again for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, and gained enough delegates to become the party's presumptive nominee in March 2008. McCain was formally nominated at the 2008 Republican National Convention in September 2008, together with his chosen running mate from Alaska, Governor Sarah Palin. McCain lost the 2008 presidential election to Barack Obama.Obama epically won because McCain fails at life.
This is just the beginning ... now i know how STAR WARS Ep3 ends with the empire rising. Ah well .. time to get in a shuttle for Dagoba i guess and come back when Luke is all grown up ...
/its not easy being green and 900 years old ya know
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McJenny50 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:16pm |
I feel a powerful case of ODS coming on and I don't particularly feel too bad about it.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:20pm |
ha, wonder if schwarzenegger will find a way to run. then we'll really have reagan #2 in the next 4 years. gotta love history cycles.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:36pm |
re: #30 Charles
If I wake up tomorrow morning and see hateful, extreme comments in this thread, accounts will be blocked. If you can't control yourself, don't post here or it will be your last comment at LGF.
My advice?
Shut er down for the night.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:44pm |
Maybe we can stop dividing like minded conservative groups.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:50pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
good: it serves you right to get what you asked for, good and hard.
now go make nice with your new overlords: we're getting shitfaced here.
screw the country "Buzz First!"
/white smoke on that last %-)
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bp sf Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:53pm |
Charles, thanks for everything this election season.
Holy shit, I have a concussion from this election.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:00pm |
re: #26 doppelganglander
I am hoping they will prove to be utterly insignificant, and Obama will be as well remembered as Martin Van Buren, James K. Polk, and Franklin Pierce.
I think he will rightfully be remembered as Jimmy Carter's second term.
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Tarkus289 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:14pm |
For the record, Europe will regret this more than we do in the long run, as well as the rest of the world.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:18pm |
re: #46 lizard by the bay
The election of the most dangerous, Socialist, inexperienced, immature, egotistical America-hating President... is the final legacy of George W. Bush. Ding me down if you want, but you know it's true.
Don't hang this on Bush.
Its simply not his fault.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:19pm |
"So, Mr. 0bama, were you ever a war hero, spend 5 years in an enemy prison camp, and have 20+ years of congressional achievements under your belt?"
"No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!"
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:19pm |
Crisis = Opportunity.
Exploit the new environment. America doesn't go for single party dictat, and the press turns on their fair haired - look at what they did to McCain.
Plus, we get a filibuster with a Minority Leader who is pretty skilled at using it.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:24pm |
re: #33 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
You know what- it's his right to vote or not vote. It's his right to speak as to what he sees as flaws in the candidates. It's his right to speak as to what he sees as a flaw in the party. Just because it's bitter doesn't mean we toss him under the bus.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:25pm |
re: #38 big L
Oh yes there are Pumas and the silent majority, and great American voters out there. Zip. nothing happened. and all these "best wishes" from the blogs. it make sick
Maybe Obama's head won't contain his ego and explode on nationwide tv.
i'll drink to that: you should too.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:35pm |
re: #42 Walter L. Newton
Where is here? What kind of hell are you talking about? You report, we want to know.
Just celebratory stuff. Crowds surging downtown. But it's there's a certain vibe -- 'Haha, Obama put one over on you suckers' -- that's palpable. Hopefully that's just because it's the sort of people who climb onto cars and jump and scream to show their ... political satisfaction, I guess.
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irongrampa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:56pm |
Can't find it in me to comment, other than to say I weep for my country tonite.
goodnight, good people-stay well.
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mamashawna Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:58pm |
re: #24 arethusa
Screw QUEEN CHRISTINE! I cannot believe Dave Riechert is LOSING TO DARCY FUCKING BURNER! Dammit!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:05pm |
I hope America can recover from this kind of adorative populist sickness we've developed. Presidents should always be just Presidents, not gods.
We're going to have to tell the rest of the world to wait six months before continuing to turn, while we get our collective media fellatio on. I'm going to avoid the TV between now and next spring.
Thank the lord for U-verse and DVR.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:20pm |
re: #40 Sprite
Because Charles is a class act- that's why you saw it.
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SpartanWoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:39pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
What are you talikng about?
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:44pm |
Ozark Mountain Daredevil decided to go out in a fireball and get whacked by Charles...guess he didn't value his posting privileges here, even after Charles warned everyone to keep it civil or get blocked.
What a shame...kinda liked 'em.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:46pm |
re: #19 neocon hippie
This is the culmination of 40 years of rot in our institutions, caused by Gramscian infiltration of our educational system, media, and entertainment, to which is added a heavy dollop of celebrity culture.
I do think you are right. I homeschool one son who was being abused by a teacher, and I just got rid of my cable - so no more MSM. They insulted me, so I'm outta there like a battered-wife who just saw the light.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:48pm |
re: #29 rawmuse
Collectivism now has guns and badges, or will very soon.
BUT Obama still has to put his hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the US Constitution.
i had a comment, but ... %-)
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:54pm |
Chales I have to ask you... what do you consider hateful?If being disappointed that Obama was elected is hateful ban me now. Can you possibly ban Conservatives who are unhappy by Obama's election? Considering all the voter fraud and media bias you can't believe lizards will be happy and accept this election with out scepticisim?
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:58pm |
re: #30 Charles
If I wake up tomorrow morning and see hateful, extreme comments in this thread, accounts will be blocked. If you can't control yourself, don't post here or it will be your last comment at LGF.
Charles, think of it as a troll smackdown time. You'll learn who is worth keeping onboard.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:12pm |
re: #52 redc1c4
good: it serves you right to get what you asked for, good and hard.
now go make nice with your new overlords: we're getting shitfaced here.
screw the country "Buzz First!"
/white smoke on that last %-)
I don't say this often, but you're behaving like an idiot.
Show me one post where I "asked for" Obama. Even one.
Don't be a moron.
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:18pm |
re: #49 SpaceJesus
ha, wonder if schwarzenegger will find a way to run. then we'll really have reagan #2 in the next 4 years. gotta love history cycles.
put down the crack pipe and back away from the keyboard
slowly...
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:28pm |
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:34pm |
re: #49 SpaceJesus
ha, wonder if schwarzenegger will find a way to run. then we'll really have reagan #2 in the next 4 years. gotta love history cycles.
Never going to happen. Zero chance.
Any attempt to amend the US Constitution to allow non-US-born citizens to run would be labelled as the "Schwartzenegger Amendment" and instantly blocked by the Dem majority Congress.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:35pm |
re: #45 freedom rings
Overseas reaction? Here's for starters, UK TimesOnline:
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
hahahahahaha - wait until he disappoints them.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:36pm |
re: #54 CIA Reject
I think he will rightfully be remembered as Jimmy Carter's second term.
You'd think enough people would remember the first one, but apparently not.
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:40pm |
re: #50 Racer X
My advice?
Shut er down for the night.
I suggest for tonight he turn control of the blog over to Killgore. He seems to have a good handle on things.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:42pm |
33-ozark, stop hiding your feelings. Say what you think.
but it is a family blog and we uses stars or __ when writing the f-bomb. anyway sorr y that guy kg pulled your chain.
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DeathtotheSwiss Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:58pm |
I'm lost...what happened with Killgore Trout?
I thought we were all friends...geez, I go on hiatus for a bit and things turn to shit. Friends become "enemies", Obama takes the election, cats and dogs living together...
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:06pm |
Remember all those friends and relatives of Obama that said "I can't speak until November 5th"?
Well here we are. Start talking.
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:13pm |
re: #17 Walter L. Newton
Now it's time for the GOP to look into it's "rule book" and find some real conservatives to start grooming for future races.
Let's face it, many of us were not happy with McCain as the presidential choice. We we not happy with the spending the Bush administration has been doing over the last 4 years. We have not been happy with the bailouts.
So, if we have been unhappy with so much of the GOP, it's no wonder that the rest of the country has been having an identity crisis in regards to true conservatism.
A lot of the outcome of this election can be laid right in our own parties lap.
Obama has his work cut out for himself if he really wants to unite the country. We have our work cut out for ourselves if we want to see a conservative part which is truly conservative again.
It's all up to us.
Haar mates, I'm back from the count, and believe me, I left a lot of quietly joyous and very happy co-workers beaming in pride, and I realized hey lets give this one a chance. If he can come in, unite the country, lower my taxes and provide more jobs then lets give him a chance at least. He will be the new CINC and I will support him as such, but my duty is to the constitution and my fellow citizens.
Walter, I agree 100 percent, that was exactly what I was thinking on the way home...
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bp sf Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:16pm |
I have half a bottle of Patron and 17 beers in the fridge; not doin' too bad, all things considered.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:16pm |
re: #30 Charles
If I wake up tomorrow morning and see hateful, extreme comments in this thread, accounts will be blocked. If you can't control yourself, don't post here or it will be your last comment at LGF.
but it's okay if we leave empties lying all over the place, and piles of cigarette and cigar butts, right?
/white smoke, from a variety of sources %-)
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pablito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:23pm |
re: #46 lizard by the bay
The election of the most dangerous, Socialist, inexperienced, immature, egotistical America-hating President... is the final legacy of George W. Bush. Ding me down if you want, but you know it's true.
Nice one. The ultimate in Bush Derangement Syndrome. Blame Bush for the people and institutions who hate and relentlessly bash him.
Reminds me of the Holocaust being blamed on Jews.
Well done. You got your ding down like you asked.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:27pm |
re: #46 lizard by the bay
The election of the most dangerous, Socialist, inexperienced, immature, egotistical America-hating President... is the final legacy of George W. Bush. Ding me down if you want, but you know it's true.
Well, as I said on the last thread, any two-term presidency ending in a cataclysmic economic downturn is likely to result in the White House changing hands. Hard to see that the blame falls on GWB.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:35pm |
re: #50 Racer X
I think Charles is showing tremendous faith in us to behave like adults. I hope others don't disappoint.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:36pm |
re: #82 DeathtotheSwiss
I'm lost...what happened with Killgore Trout?
I thought we were all friends...geez, I go on hiatus for a bit and things turn to shit. Friends become "enemies", Obama takes the election, cats and dogs living together...
Mass hysteria!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:44pm |
re: #59 Sharmuta
You know what- it's his right to vote or not vote. It's his right to speak as to what he sees as flaws in the candidates. It's his right to speak as to what he sees as a flaw in the party. Just because it's bitter doesn't mean we toss him under the bus.
I can see that because of this election results, we are seeing some Lizards display the same traits that sickens us when we see it at Kos or Huffnpuff Post.
Sad. But expected.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:51pm |
re: #2 Fiery Red XIII
Got a screen shot of the Palin page, I didn't see anything on the McCain page. Think I may do a LJ about it too.
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Tarkus289 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:12pm |
Charles, maybe a small warning at the top of the thread for the morning posters who will not have had all night to put their anger in check.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:31pm |
re: #70 nigella
Chales I have to ask you... what do you consider hateful?If being disappointed that Obama was elected is hateful ban me now. Can you possibly ban Conservatives who are unhappy by Obama's election? Considering all the voter fraud and media bias you can't believe lizards will be happy and accept this election with out scepticisim?
What I would really appreciate NOT seeing, are whacko conspiracy theories about stolen elections, until and unless good evidence of massive voter fraud surfaces.
It was wrong when the Dems did this to Bush, it would be wrong to do it to Obama.
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Percopius Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:34pm |
re: #70 nigella
Chales I have to ask you... what do you consider hateful?If being disappointed that Obama was elected is hateful ban me now. Can you possibly ban Conservatives who are unhappy by Obama's election? Considering all the voter fraud and media bias you can't believe lizards will be happy and accept this election with out scepticisim?
The best possible strategy is restraint and grace. On the surface at least.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:40pm |
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:41pm |
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:05pm |
Wonder if McCain is going to remember how his dem 'friends' in the Senate treated him? Hope he doesn't go back to being their buttboy.
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:06pm |
re: #85 bp sf
I have half a bottle of Patron and 17 beers in the fridge; not doin' too bad, all things considered.
I finished the bottle of Jack.. and still type! yeah me !
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:08pm |
re: #83 faraway
Remember all those friends and relatives of Obama that said "I can't speak until November 5th"?
Well here we are. Start talking.
Now they are going to be even MORE afraid of talking.
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:12pm |
re: #86 redc1c4
but it's okay if we leave empties lying all over the place, and piles of cigarette and cigar butts, right?
/white smoke, from a variety of sources %-)
I'm booking my hangover two weeks in advance. First class, with expensive hookers. I'm gonna enjoy my last taste of outlandish capitalism before it gets taken off me.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:13pm |
Charles, a suggestion.
When Stinky gets frisky could you add a toggle link to an archive of who and when entered the fraternity of the dispossesed? A wall of dishonor so to speak?
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:14pm |
I cant believe a lizard would not vote.
Several of my dead friends brought home in body bags would have loved to have had the chance.
May you never forget the only government authority you have left.
/we fought a good fight and lost,
but tell the bastards we will be right back.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:16pm |
re: #93 Tarkus289
Charles, maybe a small warning at the top of the thread for the morning posters who will not have had all night to put their anger in check.
I'm tired of giving warnings. If people don't know what kind of behavior is not welcome here by now, they don't deserve accounts.
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:33pm |
re: #56 looking closely
Don't hang this on Bush.
Its simply not his fault.
Not at all. Obama is an awesome politician. I can't stand him but that isn't relevant. Hillary couldn't stop him, McCain couldn't, I don't know who could have. Well, looks like we'll have 4 years to figure out what sticks.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:34pm |
These people aren't Marxists. More will be joining them. We will see where the final numbers come out, but the Congress knows that the first midterm of a new president is usually painful for his party.
If we get Obamanomics and Obamacare and a run at Obamagruppen SS then all of those seats will go red fast. These are perk-driven congress members - they place their survival first.
The key is to thwart too much damage in the first 150 days. We will see if Republican leadership is capable of that.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:52pm |
re: #80 unrealizedviewpoint
I suggest for tonight he turn control of the blog over to Killgore. He seems to have a good handle on things.
You left off the sarc tag.
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:00pm |
I'm glad I sacrificed my right arm in Iraq for nothing. The dems finally got what they've wanted since 2003. We are now the Vietnam Vets of the new millennium.
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Ringo the Gringo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:02pm |
re: #85 bp sf
I have half a bottle of Patron and 17 beers in the fridge; not doin' too bad, all things considered.
Spread it out over the next 48 hours...and be sure to eat something too.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:07pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Ok, I'm out for the night but Republicans should remember that they are the BIG WINNERS. McCain/Palin was a great idea and it worked out fantastically. Those who say otherwise are poopyheads!
/Rock on!
Monday - Killgore Trout _ "I think I'm going to enjoy election night".
It wasn't good for you?
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rawmuse Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:08pm |
re: #82 DeathtotheSwiss
I'm lost...what happened with Killgore Trout?
I thought we were all friends...geez, I go on hiatus for a bit and things turn to shit. Friends become "enemies", Obama takes the election, cats and dogs living together...
He sat it out. did not vote. and then bitches at all of us who did.
I am fresh out of give a sh*t for him.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:09pm |
Just because the late night comedians won't make jokes about Obama doesn't mean that we can't have light-hearted fun at his expense.
This is someone who takes himself way too seriously, and we should be willing to help him rectify that aspect of his personality. I'm thinking the Ferris Bueller model. I think it will alot of fun.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:14pm |
re: #40 Sprite
I didn't see a sarc tag on your congrats to Obama, Charles, two threads below. When I came here to commiserate, that is truly the last thing I expected to see.
?
he's funny that way: he runs this place in a gentile fashion and expects the same from the rest of us, with varying levels of success.
his house, his rules... can't say as i blame him.
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:26pm |
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:26pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
Where's "here"?
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:40pm |
LBJ fostered the "Great Society", the Entitlists leave us the "Ingrate Society".
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BlueCanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:44pm |
re: #89 Sharmuta
I think Charles is showing tremendous faith in us to behave like adults. I hope others don't disappoint.
Yes, and remember folks the report button is to the right of the heart button. Don't be afraid to use it.
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bp sf Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:45pm |
99 Zippy
Good thing there's no Bourbon around here; I'd of chugged it.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:03pm |
re: #78 DistantThunder
hahahahahaha - wait until he disappoints them.
They're in for a nasty surprise when they first meet with him. "Ze bleck JFK doesn't know ennysing! Oh mein Gott, ve are screwed!"
Sarko already has his number. I'm sure Georgia and Ukraine are just thrilled. Azerbaijain can't be too happy either, since they are now all that stands between a Russia-Iran energy alliance. The Brits don't matter, they're officially third world at this point, but the remnants of NATO are not going to be happy, to say nothing of our friends in the Pacific Rim.
And advising him on foreign policy is a cowardly, bullying dingbat blowhard who may well have a degenerative brain disease... Lovely.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:07pm |
re: #96 Racer X
Emotions are running high.
That's when people need to bite their tongues or just walk away for a bit...no need for people to be p**sing in Charles' house, especially after multiple warnings that he's not gonna put up with that mess.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:11pm |
I am taking it as a given that a 2.5-3.0% spread is entirely within the range of vote fraud. I decline to eat this sandwich.
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soccerdad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:19pm |
I was wrong. Shoot! Sorry all.
Here we go people -- hang on to your wallets.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:27pm |
re: #79 doppelganglander
You'd think enough people would remember the first one, but apparently not.
I knew we were in trouble when the whole "70s nostolgia" craze started.
Looks like we may be headed for "30s nostolgia"...
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:27pm |
Silver linings:
*Missouri's looking okay for a McCain win.
*I'll waste less time watching tv now. The MSM is dead to me.
*I test for my concealed carry permit on Saturday.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:29pm |
re: #104 Charles
I'm tired of giving warnings. If people don't know what kind of behavior is not welcome here by now, they don't deserve accounts.
Charles, what happened to the monitors? Can't someone else keep watch?
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sngnsgt Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:33pm |
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pablito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:36pm |
re: #109 logboy
I'm glad I sacrificed my right arm in Iraq for nothing. The dems finally got what they've wanted since 2003. We are now the Vietnam Vets of the new millennium.
Obama's too incompetent to turn the victory in Iraq into a defeat at this point.
I salute your service and your sacrifice.
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Justin42 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:43pm |
The "in-your-face"-ness of some of the celebrations are really puzzling to me. I see videos from around the country and there is the air of something much bigger than a political celebration. I have never understood what George Bush did to personally offend so many people, and I don't understand why the same people are treating this as the second coming.
I want to ask one of them "How exactly will your life be different in one year from today directly because of something Obama will do?" I'm sure it'd get a blank look but I am really curious why this over-the-top euphoria.
That said I can't say I'm shocked by the outcome. I was trying to be cautiously optimistic with some of the early news but it seemed to fall apart pretty quickly. Too many people were promised too many things by Obama, and for whatever reason for forgetting the last 8 years weren't all that bad (save the last 6 months or so), thought "change" would fix everything.
I know I don't post here much but I probably will have to to vent the next few years. I've learned this year most of my circle of friends is pretty clueless politically and really bought into Obama... even friends that I know would be Republican if the Republican party would just stand up for its principles again.
(and don't forget -- it only took 2 years of Clinton for the country to give massive majorities back to the Republicans... there's always hope!)
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RTLM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:47pm |
re: #48 McJenny50
I feel a powerful case of ODS coming on and I don't particularly feel too bad about it.
I think the ODS will be most hard felt by the same sort of idiots that I saw dancing outside the White House tonight. Give it about 6 months.
The expectations of the Obama voter are spectacularly unrealistic. And once The One reveals himself to be nothing more than an opportunistic politician, the buyers remorse will show itself in full force.
E.G. I believe Biden basically said we're going to war with Pakistan within 6 months. He said it to his moonbat base in San Fran and Seattle.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:19:07pm |
Charles,
Just put this note at the top of the post for the next few days.
# Five Stages Of Grief
* 1. Denial and Isolation.
* 2. Anger.
* 3. Bargaining.
* 4. Depression.
* 5. Acceptance.
I am slowly coming out of step 2.
Yippee, I have depression to look forward to.
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:19:08pm |
re: #18 Fiery Red XIII
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Get a screen shot PLS!Red
Is this what you're referring to? That is disgusting, outrageous, unforgivable!
Does anyone know how to make user-changes in Wiki entries? Anyone know how to contact them?
I noticed this info on the "View source" tab within the page:
This page is currently semi-protected, and can be edited only by established registered users.
* Semi-protection is sometimes necessary to prevent vandalism to popular pages. Most articles can be edited by anyone.
* The reason for protection can be found in the protection log.
* If you have a user account, log in first. If you do not yet have an account, you may create one; after a while, you will be able to edit semi-protected pages.
* You can discuss this page with others. If you have noticed an error or have a suggestion for a simple change, start a new section on this page's talk page and insert the text {editsemiprotected} followed by your request. An established user may then make the change on your behalf.
* You may request unprotection of the page.
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Sprite Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:19:11pm |
re: #65 Sharmuta
I see. Sure. I do.
!
There is NO other lizard who has sent more people here than me. !
It's his blog which I adore. But I do not adore the O. And I have not one scintilla of respect for him. The Office? YOu bet. But the O? NEVER.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:19:27pm |
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jcw46 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:19:41pm |
Prediction: By about May-June next year, all the stuff the News Media SHOULD have written about before the election will appear as if by magic.
DON'T BE FOOLED. They did this with Clinton (tho not as egregiously). They covered up/spun all negative news until AFTER the election then they were all like "gee we didn't realize he was such a scumbag! Well NOW we'll get right on those stories and stuff cause That's Our Job."
(spit) Yeah right. They'll do this to try to lure folks back into believing they're doing the fact-finding and that they can be believed and that they're being good citizens to defend themselves from being pointed to as a major flaw/influence that got an utter incompetent (if not criminal) into office.
THEY NEWS MEDIA MUST PAY FOR THEIR LIES AND COVERUPS! Cancel subscriptions write to advertisers. Support alternative media. Start a blog. Let us point out from now until they have been marginalized that the News Media in this country acted treasonously and with malice aforethought to the detriment of this Country.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:19:44pm |
re: #91 Walter L. Newton
I can see that because of this election results, we are seeing some Lizards display the same traits that sickens us when we see it at Kos or Huffnpuff Post.
Sad. But expected.
At least we can expect that there won't be any Lizards hacking their former-partner to pieces - what was the stab count of the Huffington Post writer? - 122?
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:08pm |
re: #104 Charles
I'm tired of giving warnings. If people don't know what kind of behavior is not welcome here by now, they don't deserve accounts.
Charles is upset too, but he ain't breakin' up the bar in the lounge, or throwing unacceptable language all about.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:17pm |
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SpartanWoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:23pm |
Well, I am praying for the best. That somehow Israel survives and that he is not a pawn of Ayers, Soros and Wright. Maybe he's just a brazen opportunist who used the tools at hand to build himself up. Maybe his victory will lead to his followers working hard to get ahead and acting on the inspiration to be better educated.
Back in 1980, I remember people panicking that the stuff about Reagan wanting war was all true and being amazed that it wasn't. Maybe Obama will be the man he told us he will be. I hope so
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bp sf Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:25pm |
Take the high road. No "derangement syndrome" from me.
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:31pm |
re: #104 Charles
I'm tired of giving warnings. If people don't know what kind of behavior is not welcome here by now, they don't deserve accounts.
ABSOLUTELY Charles !
When signing on people get a message saying simply that posing on here is a privelege and NOT a right. There shouldnt be a need for mass banning or deletion of peoples accounts. People should get the simple hint. Be courteous in what you say, dont say stupid EXTREMIST things and play nice.
But actually having just written that, maybe a table of whats acceptable behaviour might be made available. Just so that newbies get a chance to do things right. I mean .. regulars will know the rules.
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RememberSekhmet? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:33pm |
Hussein the Twit is going to find out rather quickly that there is a difference between running for President and being President. He's managed to surround himself with very brilliant...PR guys.
Funny thing, many of our enemies aren't accountable to their people, and honestly don't give a hot flying crap if they have bad PR. You can't sic Axelrod on Ahmadinejad.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:35pm |
re: #55 Tarkus289
For the record, Europe will regret this more than we do in the long run, as well as the rest of the world.
well, they wanted it too. it's kinda like the kid who keeps wanting to touch the hot surface. these days they tell you not to let them, but we all know that's the one way you learn you don't want to do something.
same with voting for empty suits: the only way some of them learn is to get one. the others never learn.
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:48pm |
Anyone have the latest on Coleman/Franken? Mine shows 79% with Coleman ahead by less than 5,000.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:48pm |
re: #134 LeePro
The vile text is now gone. I have a screen shot on it just figuring out where to post it.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:51pm |
He has ruined Kohlifordnia, why in the heck would anyone want Arnie as anything in politics? A total Rino.
/that'll work.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:21:05pm |
re: #134 LeePro
Leave it. The longer the more outrage it will induce.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:21:07pm |
re: #102 lifeofthemind
hey there, {life},
how are you? i liked your posts tonight.
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soccerdad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:21:28pm |
Looking forward to 2010...when the American people will have had enough of CHANGE!
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:21:31pm |
Oh no - Franken has closed the gap, and now only 4000 votes separate him and Coleman with 79% reporting. I can deal with Obama as my President, but I'm not sure about Franken as my Senator.
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Driftwood Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:21:43pm |
re: #46 lizard by the bay
The election of the most dangerous, Socialist, inexperienced, immature, egotistical America-hating President... is the final legacy of George W. Bush. Ding me down if you want, but you know it's true.
Yeah, that's just what we need for the next 4 years: "It's all Bush's fault" in surround sound.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:01pm |
re: #119 BlueCanuck
Yes, and remember folks the report button is to the right of the heart button. Don't be afraid to use it.
I've got a report button and I'm not afraid to use it.
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RightMinded Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:06pm |
re: #146 Griffon
Coleman up by 10,000 with 84% reporting. I hope it holds up!
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:21pm |
re: #107 karmic_inquisitor
These people aren't Marxists. More will be joining them. We will see where the final numbers come out, but the Congress knows that the first midterm of a new president is usually painful for his party.
If we get Obamanomics and Obamacare and a run at Obamagruppen SS then all of those seats will go red fast. These are perk-driven congress members - they place their survival first.
The key is to thwart too much damage in the first 150 days. We will see if Republican leadership is capable of that.
Magic 8 Ball says "Not Likely"
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:22pm |
re: #152 arethusa
Oh no - Franken has closed the gap, and now only 4000 votes separate him and Coleman with 79% reporting. I can deal with Obama as my President, but I'm not sure about Franken as my Senator.
I will be absolutely speechless if Al Franken gains a senatorship.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:23pm |
Sorry Charles and fellow Lizards I am going to disappoint. I will not just pretend that all is well and Obama is my new overlord. I am going to fight his policies tooth and nail. I will not pretend that this is inevitable there was unbelievible prejudice in the Media promoting Obama, and voter fraud. I will fight to stop this complete acceptance of Obama's ideas.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:26pm |
well, I disagree with the UK observation, or opinion
that we are a superpower
we are broke
financially and morally
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:29pm |
Goodnight, I think I will hug a furry friend.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:31pm |
re: #142 bp sf
Take the high road. No "derangement syndrome" from me.
I'm not going to be "deranged". I am, however, going to throw any future "misery index" in the faces of 0bama supporters by telling them it's what they elected.
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Gus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:32pm |
re: #152 arethusa
Colorado went full tilt Democrat tonight. Udall is now a senator.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:34pm |
re: #133 faraway
Charles,
Just put this note at the top of the post for the next few days.
# Five Stages Of Grief
* 1. Denial and Isolation.
* 2. Anger.
* 3. Bargaining.
* 4. Depression.
* 5. Acceptance.I am slowly coming out of step 2.
Yippee, I have depression to look forward to.
6. Sardonic humor.
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:39pm |
re: #147 BlueCanuck
We're going to be seeing more of it. I'm seeing a bunch on facebook already.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:58pm |
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Gus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:09pm |
Watch as Colorado slowly turns into Oregon.
/Help!
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:41pm |
re: #143 Buster Bunny
The rules are at the top of every thread above comment #1. If people can't read and comprehend them- I don't know what more Charles can do.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:47pm |
re: #153 Driftwood
Yeah, that's just what we need for the next 4 years: "It's all Bush's fault" in surround sound.
Obama's acolytes will use that excuse to cover for any mistakes he makes.
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:52pm |
I hope my fear of this guy is totally unfounded. I really do.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:54pm |
re: #106 jayzee
Not at all. Obama is an awesome politician. I can't stand him but that isn't relevant. Hillary couldn't stop him, McCain couldn't, I don't know who could have. Well, looks like we'll have 4 years to figure out what sticks.
I wouldn't go so far as to say Obama is an "awesome politician", unless, by that, you simply mean that his organization was strong enough to get him elected. In terms of his leadership history and political record, Senator "Present" is razor-thin.
He won his last two elected offices largely by disqualifying his opponents, not by outrunning them. This time around, he won the nomination largely by gaming the stupid Democrat caucus system, reneging on his promise to take public financing, and other chicanery. I don't see that as "awesome politics" (though that's semantic).
This cycle, Obama benefitted largely by being in the right place at the right time. He came in as the leftmost candidate after the most hated right-wing candidate in recent memory, and his chief rival (Hilary) had tons of personal baggage, and poor execution. It *EASILY* could have been her with the nomination instead of Obama. Simple reporting of the Edwards scandal probably would have been enough to do that.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:10pm |
re: #157 Cognito
I will be absolutely speechless if Al Franken gains a senatorship.
Promises, promises.
I'm kidding!
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:19pm |
144 remember... He doesn't have to do anything. He is titular,man. There are all these crackpots running the marionette strings. He can't even put together two thoughts thataren't written on paper or screen for him. "uh,er um,uh,er.hmm..."
/totally Kukla,Fran and Ollie time.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:26pm |
re: #87 pablito
Nice one. The ultimate in Bush Derangement Syndrome. Blame Bush for the people and institutions who hate and relentlessly bash him.
I don't blame him for them hating him. I blame him for never standing up to them. For letting them tell the people who GWB was. For never taking his vision to or explaining his actions to the American people. For being the invisible President, who only got more invisible when his poll numbers went down and they hit him harder. You can make good decisions, but a good leader inspires. A good leader get's people on board. GWB's leadership skills sucked ass, and that's being generous.
Reminds me of the Holocaust being blamed on Jews.
Well done. You got your ding down like you asked.
Wow, could your frivolous comparison be more insulting to the memory of the Holocaust? Oh well, Nazi comparisons, the last refuge of a troll. Who the fuck are you again, pablito?
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:31pm |
re: #162 Gus 802
Colorado went full tilt Democrat tonight. Udall is now a senator.
Is the Udall in NM his brother, or...?
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pablito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:37pm |
Barack and Michelle can't take away my pillow. G'nite.
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SFGoth Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:51pm |
Tomorrow I flee the sinking ship and re-register Libertarian. There's no point in being a Republican anymore. 12 years and not much to show for it.
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:53pm |
re: #104 Charles
I'm tired of giving warnings. If people don't know what kind of behavior is not welcome here by now, they don't deserve accounts.
Go Charles! I have real issues with you deleting my dissent for your threads on creationism, but I support you 100 percent on this one, mate! I firmly believe that the sharpest cuts are made by intelligent courteous satire or sly wit! There are many ways of expressing yourself with out insults or threats of violence. Charles it sounds like you have had a rough couple of weeks. Chill out, have a beer and we will muddle through this situation as we always have.
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:02pm |
re: #116 newsjunkie_ky
Who is OMD?
Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark; A trippy, so-so 80s band. Some guys liked them, other guys who liked to get laid pretended to like them.
So they could get laid.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:12pm |
Tomorrow should be a wonderful day as we watch the great rainbow of love come from Europe...they like us again!
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:26pm |
re: #150 nyc redneck
hey there, {life},
how are you? i liked your posts tonight.
Thanks, will try to stop in town tomorrow or the next day.
Recommend all NY lizards go see Grant and Lee at the NY Historical Society.
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soccerdad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:27pm |
re: #169 jayzee
I hope my fear of this guy is totally unfounded. I really do.
I'm with you...but totally depressed at this point.
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RightMinded Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:31pm |
re: #174 Ward Cleaver
Is the Udall in NM his brother, or...?
They said on Fox that the two Udalls are cousins IIRC.
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mrosett Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:33pm |
re: #30 Charles
There is nothing you could have said to make me respect you more, Charles. We have an obligation to be gracious and mature. I sincerely wish President Obama the best of luck, although that probably isn't the same thing as accomplishing his agenda.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:44pm |
re: #87 pablito
Nice one. The ultimate in Bush Derangement Syndrome. Blame Bush for the people and institutions who hate and relentlessly bash him.
Reminds me of the Holocaust being blamed on Jews.
That is a completely asinine comparison.
In a sense, this election was lost in 2005. Post-victory Iraq started it, the 2004 election results got the ball rolling, Katrina finished it, and the remaining three years the Repubs have been running on empty. If you don't act Presidential and you don't answer your critics in complete sentences, in this day and age, you're going to lose to a guy who does. The best answer to the Dems was McCain and he wasn't smart enough, fast enough.
The only thing to do now is eject the pork pigs and get back to the original intent of the Founding Fathers: provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare (not supply it), and always favor LIBERTY, that is the legal enshrinement of individual rights, rather than run around spouting this half-assed over-used buzzword of "freedom", which in this day and age means "freedom to buy stuff" (including Presidents, as Soros has shown us).
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:45pm |
re: #45 freedom rings
Overseas reaction? Here's for starters, UK TimesOnline:
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
like crabs in a bucket, always trying to drag the others down with the rest.
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Karridine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:58pm |
re: #109 logboy
I'm glad I sacrificed my right arm in Iraq for nothing. The dems finally got what they've wanted since 2003. We are now the Vietnam Vets of the new millennium.
I hear you, Logboy!
When I came back from my USS Pueblo-era Korean DMZ service, to end 4 years honorable service, Kerry-inspired 'peace' demonstrators spat on me...
I actively campaigned AGAINST Kerry, thinking him some of the worst of the worst, but this disunity in America is tearing America apart...
/Thank you for your service, Man
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:13pm |
re: #109 logboy
I'm glad I sacrificed my right arm in Iraq for nothing. The dems finally got what they've wanted since 2003. We are now the Vietnam Vets of the new millennium.
Welcome to the club,
but don't forget to vote.
/and welcome home bro.
May God bless you and your family.
Sgt. Keyboard
Nha Trang
Vietnam
67-68-69
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Gus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:18pm |
re: #174 Ward Cleaver
I'm not sure what the exact relationship is. Same family line.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:44pm |
101 Buster bunny- no thecigs the booze and hookers are being sent to Washington D.C. Sorry...no fun for U!
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:27:03pm |
re: #160 lifeofthemind
Goodnight, I think I will hug a furry friend.
i'm going to hug a bottle of the only thing from the UK worth a damn.
/cheers!
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:27:13pm |
re: #183 mrosett
I remember how angry I felt when people on the left talked about George Bush as though he were a dog on the street. He was the President of the United States of America. The elected leader of the greatest nation in the world, representative of its people.
And now Barack Obama is. No, I don't agree with his positions. But I do honor the office.
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SFGoth Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:27:16pm |
re: #19 neocon hippie
This is the culmination of 40 years of rot in our institutions, caused by Gramscian infiltration of our educational system, media, and entertainment, to which is added a heavy dollop of celebrity culture.
You are entirely correct. I have a theory along this line but my home computer is too slow to let me post it. Manana, since we're all supposed to learn Spanglish.
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RightMinded Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:27:30pm |
re: #191 Gus 802
Sure, no problem. I should get some sleep right now, but am having a hard time leaving with the Coleman race not called yet.
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Steffan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:27:38pm |
re: #17 Walter L. Newton
Now it's time for the GOP to look into it's "rule book" and find some real conservatives to start grooming for future races.
Let's face it, many of us were not happy with McCain as the presidential choice. We we not happy with the spending the Bush administration has been doing over the last 4 years. We have not been happy with the bailouts.
So, if we have been unhappy with so much of the GOP, it's no wonder that the rest of the country has been having an identity crisis in regards to true conservatism.
A lot of the outcome of this election can be laid right in our own parties lap.
Obama has his work cut out for himself if he really wants to unite the country. We have our work cut out for ourselves if we want to see a conservative part which is truly conservative again.
It's all up to us.
In retrospect, Palin was and is a good choice, and I think she'd be a contender worth considering for either slot of the ticket in 2012.
I agree, though, that the GOP needs some serious housecleaning, and the next two years will be the best time to do it.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:27:38pm |
re: #182 RightMinded
They said on Fox that the two Udalls are cousins IIRC.
I remember Mo Udall and Stewart Udall. Man, I'm getting old.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:01pm |
re: #179 BakaRanger
Tomorrow should be a wonderful day as we watch the great rainbow of love come from Europe...they like us again!
Free airfare to Franze for all of zee Americans! (actually, most Lizards know I would jump on those tickets).
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SFGoth Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:03pm |
re: #20 Fierce Guppy
Cheer up. After Carter came Reagan.
LOL, and after Lenin came Yeltsin, about 75 years later.
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:14pm |
re: #162 Gus 802
Colorado went full tilt Democrat tonight. Udall is now a senator.
Does that mean I can kiss my military discount on the slopes goodbye?
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:14pm |
I think this is the n*****SHIT reference that #18 referred to
When history defends the scoundrel, the hero will become wanted.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:15pm |
175-pablito-- they can tax it tho: comfort tax.
/send the ck in!
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:28pm |
re: #124 lifeofthemind
I am taking it as a given that a 2.5-3.0% spread is entirely within the range of vote fraud. I decline to eat this sandwich.
If it were so, 3% vote fraud would be massive fraud.
While I am sure there was SOME voter fraud, and equally sure that it provided net benefit to Obama, I'm not going to jump onto that particular bandwagon without good evidence.
With the electoral college as lopsided as it is, such fraud would have had to have successfully tipped multiple swing states to have mattered in this case.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:28pm |
re: #194 Cognito
I remember how angry I felt when people on the left talked about George Bush as though he were a dog on the street. He was the President of the United States of America. The elected leader of the greatest nation in the world, representative of its people.
And now Barack Obama is. No, I don't agree with his positions. But I do honor the office.
Cog, where are you where all this violence is?
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:42pm |
re: #170 looking closely
And that's politics. Sux a little right? Thing is when you're running, you can be anything you want, when you take office that becomes harder. I hope.
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:44pm |
People have to learn sometimes not only how much the heart, but how much the head, can bear.
My head can't bear much more; fortunately, the Jack Daniels is dulling the pain...at least until the morning.
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:54pm |
There is something positively surreal about electing this alluring, potentially very dangerous character with a murky past to the highest office in the land. Which reminds me that I forgot one factor in the political-cultural brew of the last decades which made this possible: drugs. This is psychedelic reality made manifest.
Ultimately, the event of 11/4/08, and whatever will come after, can be traced back to a bicycle ride in Basel, Switzerland on 4/19/43.
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Globular Cluster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:12pm |
re: #71 Buster Bunny
Charles, think of it as a troll smackdown time. You'll learn who is worth keeping onboard.
LGF needs an enema, just like the Republican party needs an enema.
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:16pm |
re: #194 Cognito
I honor the office, but not the 0, or how he got there.
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Gus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:24pm |
re: #202 logboy
Nah, I doubt it. It's not that bad yet. Udall is a Democrat but he's no Barbara Boxer.
/Knock on wood.
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:28pm |
You know, I think I'll let myself be (un)pleasantly surprised and head for bed without knowing whether it was Coleman or Franklin.
Good night, Lizards, and good luck. Also courage.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:30pm |
On "bipartisanship" --
Guess who said this?
"Consensus is the absence of leadership"
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:39pm |
Massive Kassam fire reported from Gaza
Rescue services reported a "massive" cross-border Kassam barrage on Wednesday, with three of the rockets landing in the western Negev, damaging several greenhouses.The IDF said at least 20 rockets were fired from the Strip.
No one was wounded in the bombardment which came after a night on which three soldiers were wounded by a mortar shell fired by Palestinians during IDF operations in southern Gaza.
Two of the soldiers were in moderate condition while the third was lightly hurt. They were evacuated by helicopter to Soroka Hospital in Beersheba.
According to Palestinian reports, six Palestinian gunmen were reported dead in what was the first armed confrontation with the IDF since the cease-fire took effect in June.
So it begins...
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:41pm |
later
I think I shall have one little drink out of a few bottles.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:49pm |
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soccerdad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:52pm |
Hahahahahahahaha! Shit is starting already.
Israel launches first airstrike since June
They KNOW they are effed! Why bother to wait?
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:55pm |
re: #148 big L
He has ruined Kohlifordnia, why in the heck would anyone want Arnie as anything in politics? A total Rino.
/that'll work.
He was done in by powerful entrenched democrats and their lackeys, the unions. His last chance to make a change was his initiative blitz. Since then it has been moosecrimp or nothing.
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RightMinded Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:58pm |
Coleman up by 10000 still with 87% in. I'm gonna have to call it a night. Night lizards. I'm hoping things will look better in the morning, but I'm not counting on it!
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:30:38pm |
Wait a second, did the enlightened Liberals just elect a smoker for President?
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:30:38pm |
re: #194 Cognito
I remember how angry I felt when people on the left talked about George Bush as though he were a dog on the street. He was the President of the United States of America. The elected leader of the greatest nation in the world, representative of its people.
And now Barack Obama is. No, I don't agree with his positions. But I do honor the office.
A friend who rented apartments said that she always followed potential renters back to their cars, because their condition, inside and out, told her a lot about how they would maintain the apartment.
So let's hope the office won't end up smelling as bad as the Obama plane, according to one reporter.
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:30:59pm |
re: #181 soccerdad
I'm with you...but totally depressed at this point.
Yeah me too. I am actualy kind of scared.
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BHJets Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:12pm |
Got a feeling that dissent just went from patriotic to racist.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:32pm |
OK, Sorry if anyone thinks I'm a troll. I also don't think I'm overly emotional. The fact that I don't accept Obama totally doesn't make me a troll. It makes me a person who has a brain and can think for themselves. Sorry to disappoint you all.No wonder some of the "regulars"haven't shown themselves tonight. I guess they didn't want to go under the scrutiny of those who feel we should just all " get" along with the new Obama regime.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:48pm |
'Night, all. Must get up and get the kids off to school, and drag my ass into work.
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Gus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:51pm |
re: #223 blackpajamas
Pretty much. That's one Obama's better qualities.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:59pm |
re: #207 Ward Cleaver
No violence. As I mentioned a little bit back, it's just celebratory stuff. Crowds surging downtown. But it's there's a certain vibe -- 'Haha, Obama put one over on you suckers' -- that's palpable. Hopefully that's just because it's the sort of people who climb onto cars and jump and scream to show their ... political satisfaction, I guess.
There's some intimidation going on. A group of guys walks up and one holds a fist out and says, "Obama did it this s---. Give up for Obama. Give it up." Horns blaring, people mashing up. The cops are on edge.
The whole scene is just weird to me. I thought about asking the fist guy which of Obama's policies he felt gave him an edge over his opponent.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:17pm |
I wonder if Obama's college drug dealer will be the Surgeon General.*
* I'm not out of line here, Obama admitted to having a drug dealer in his first autobiography.
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:26pm |
re: #219 soccerdad
Hahahahahahahaha! Shit is starting already.
Israel launches first airstrike since June
They KNOW they are effed! Why bother to wait?
That's a silver lining no? Wonder what else has been on hold.
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RTLM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:27pm |
re: #179 BakaRanger
Tomorrow should be a wonderful day as we watch the great rainbow of love come from Europe...they like us again!
Europe loves us again? /Lucky us.
The Euros were totally prepared to label us a off the charts racist country if Obama wasn't elected.
I'd like to see a black candidate's chances in France or Germany or Britain.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:37pm |
re: #228 nigella
the new Obama regime.
That's it! Everyone needs to refer to this as the new regime.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:43pm |
re: #227 faraway
Better start rallying behind Palin now.
Palin will slink back to AK for the next three years, with a lot more experience and name recognition. Even if she lost the election, she's a net winner here.
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:49pm |
re: #178 Noam Sayin'
Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark; A trippy, so-so 80s band. Some guys liked them, other guys who liked to get laid pretended to like them.
So they could get laid.
So, Noam, do you still have your OMD t-shirt :O
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Gus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:50pm |
It's pretty quiet around were I live. Typical Tuesday night. No ghetto birds no sirens.
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Fargar Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:52pm |
shbundakov comrads, we now live in new "peoples republik of states. welcom fellow citizens!
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:59pm |
re: #158 nigella
Sorry Charles and fellow Lizards I am going to disappoint. I will not just pretend that all is well and Obama is my new overlord. I am going to fight his policies tooth and nail. I will not pretend that this is inevitable there was unbelievible prejudice in the Media promoting Obama, and voter fraud. I will fight to stop this complete acceptance of Obama's ideas.
/seriously, relax, give him some rope
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:01pm |
re: #228 nigella
OK, Sorry if anyone thinks I'm a troll. I also don't think I'm overly emotional. The fact that I don't accept Obama totally doesn't make me a troll. It makes me a person who has a brain and can think for themselves. Sorry to disappoint you all.No wonder some of the "regulars"haven't shown themselves tonight. I guess they didn't want to go under the scrutiny of those who feel we should just all " get" along with the new Obama regime.
Hang in there, Nigella. We'll get through this.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:01pm |
re: #219 soccerdad
Hahahahahahahaha! Shit is starting already.
Israel launches first airstrike since June
They KNOW they are effed! Why bother to wait?
I hate to be presumed a cheerleader for this stuff
but you can't blame the Israeli's for taking the offensive quick
I'd rather have had the civil war via McCain winning
than the (I fear) global war of 0bama winning
how many shoes are going to drop...?
Israel, Gaza, Iran, Syria
India Vs Pakistan ?
North/South Korea ?
China will peacefully reunify with TW though
they know they're out numbered
and will get no help
and are not a fighting people
some good that will do when the middle east glows 4500 degrees
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:09pm |
Again looking for silver linings... there doesn't seem to have been a Bradley effect. America isn't that racist anymore.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:11pm |
hi guys(and girls)lost my posting privligese at work so i haven't been posting,...this is a very dissapointing evening to say the least,but it should serve to get the right and right laening middle to get its act together and prepare for the future.we need exiting new blood.people to pick up the torch.those people are you.get involved.find out about your local rep.or dem.party get involved.it is up to us to take back our nation.
and god bless the USA.*(aand god bless the isrealia if our worst fears are true,may thier mission to take out irans nukes be successful)
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SeafoodGumbo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:18pm |
re: #20 Fierce Guppy
Cheer up. After Carter came Reagan.
No offense, but Carter didn't face a nuclear Iran, or get to pick two or three Supreme Court justices.
I'm all for picking up, dusting off, and moving on, but what we face will be monumental.
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:23pm |
re: #219 soccerdad
Hahahahahahahaha! Shit is starting already.
Israel launches first airstrike since June
They KNOW they are effed! Why bother to wait?
They will hit Iran soon, they know they have no choice than do it now, mates!
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:42pm |
re: #157 Cognito
I will be absolutely speechless if Al Franken gains a senatorship.
in that case, i hope he wins, but i doubt your moral character will force you to fulfill your side of the bargain...
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:50pm |
re: #235 RTLM
Europe loves us again? /Lucky us.
The Euros were totally prepared to label us a off the charts racist country if Obama wasn't elected.
I'd like to see a black candidate's chances in France or Germany or Britain.
They still boo black soccer players in Spain and Italy,
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:33:50pm |
re: #197 Steffan
In retrospect, Palin was and is a good choice, and I think she'd be a contender worth considering for either slot of the ticket in 2012.
I agree, though, that the GOP needs some serious housecleaning, and the next two years will be the best time to do it.
Now, on that point, I would go as far as saying housecleaning DC is only the first step. I think that there should be a WHOLE BUNCH of criminal cases brought against the crooks that are running rampant in Washington, on both sides of the aisle.
Keep in mind folks, there has been a good number of politicians gaming us with the banking and mortgage industry. And then they end the scam with giving them a big bonus of 700+ billion dollars.
Have you noticed how fast all that bailout crap disappeared off the radar. What the fuck are they doing with that money, now that they have approved it to be spent?
I really want to see most of them, both sides, tank. If any one of us had pulled some of the financial stunts these fuck heads did, we'd be in the slammer faster than anything.
I'm still steamed about all that.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:03pm |
re: #235 RTLM
Europe loves us again? /Lucky us.
The Euros were totally prepared to label us a off the charts racist country if Obama wasn't elected.
I'd like to see a black candidate's chances in France or Germany or Britain.
We all know that'd never happen. And they call us racists...
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:24pm |
re: #220 CyanSnowHawk
He was done in by powerful entrenched democrats and their lackeys, the unions. His last chance to make a change was his initiative blitz. Since then it has been moosecrimp or nothing.
I disagree
Arnold was done in by himself
he could have had the courage to stand up to the dems
and he could have had the sense to make cuts
instead of borrowing when he took over
Arnold-Bush
Bush-Arnold
two peacemakers who got walked on
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:24pm |
re: #237 looking closely
Palin will slink back to AK for the next three years, with a lot more experience and name recognition. Even if she lost the election, she's a net winner here.
And she doesn't get linked to any blunders McCain makes as President. Besides, we tend to get tired of one party after 8-12 years. If McCain had won this year, it would have been even harder for a Republican to win next time. Not that I like the idea of Obama for four years in the meantime.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:27pm |
I hate all those sites all the guys here that gave me hope about this election.
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SpartanWoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:30pm |
re: #237 looking closely
Palin will slink back to AK for the next three years, with a lot more experience and name recognition. Even if she lost the election, she's a net winner here.
I think Romney would have been a better pick, no one could have tossed the inexperience label at him
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:36pm |
Helicopters circling over Seattle. Sounds of gunfire now and then.
Time to get away from the windows and pour another big glass of wine. It's gonna be a long night.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:36pm |
re: #248 redc1c4
in that case, i hope he wins, but i doubt your moral character will force you to fulfill your side of the bargain...
You have a fixation.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:54pm |
re: #169 jayzee
I hope my fear of this guy is totally unfounded. I really do.
What evidence do you have for that?
My concern is, what more is there about him that we don't know?
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:57pm |
re: #236 faraway
That's it! Everyone needs to refer to this as the new regime.
Me - I'm simply going to refer to him as 'President Government' for the next 4.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:57pm |
re: #243 Adrenalyn
some good that will do when the middle east glows 4500 degrees
Umm... that would solve our dependence on foreign oil. Not the way anyone hopes though.
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SFGoth Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:35:01pm |
re: #179 BakaRanger
Tomorrow should be a wonderful day as we watch the great rainbow of love come from Europe...they like us again!
LOL, I'm going to Munich Friday. I'll tell you how much Fr:aulein I get.
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Gus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:35:04pm |
re: #247 LoFlyer
That's my prediction. Israel might be better off striking any nuclear facilities in Iran prior to January 20th.
This should make Ahmadinnerjacket even more ill.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:35:42pm |
re: #110 Ringo the Gringo
Spread it out over the next 48 hours...and be sure to eat something too.
he won't even get a buzz that way...
drink 9 beers, kill the patron, then drink the rest of the beers. the liquor stores will be open again when you wake up.
next time, have more booze on hand.
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:35:42pm |
re: #232 Cognito
Where are you, Cog? New York? DC? Somewhere else?
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:02pm |
re: #244 Moe Katz
Again looking for silver linings... there doesn't seem to have been a Bradley effect. America isn't that racist anymore.
Bradley effect isn't about racism, its about perception, specifically not wanting to be accused of being racist, or appearing that way.
I would hasten to agree, though, that to the extent that race was a factor in this election, it probably helped (not hurt) Obama.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:03pm |
re: #256 redmirabai
Helicopters circling over Seattle. Sounds of gunfire now and then.
Time to get away from the windows and pour another big glass of wine. It's gonna be a long night.
I figured this junk was happening around the country.
Man. I think of the difference between the way the people on the left are behaving, and the way the people on the right would have behaved, and it confirms for me that I stand on the upright side.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:04pm |
Deliberate with caution, but act with decision; and yield with graciousness or oppose with firmness.
Charles Hole
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:13pm |
re: #241 Killian Bundy
/seriously, relax, give him some rope
Give him some rope? RACIST!
Oh, wait. I suppose that could be a popular figure of speech... :-)
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DeathtotheSwiss Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:13pm |
re: #113 rawmuse
Wow. Didn't think he'd go all apathetic on us.
I voted, guessing it was a lost cause, but I still voted. I joke about how I only voted so that I could wear a t-shirt with "Don't Blame Me, I voted McCain" on it, but I'd like to make a claim that I think more of our system than that.
When it comes down to it...I'm gonna miss Bush. I won't miss the deranged masses nor do I think they'll go away. They'll be screaming for his being drawn and quartered until Obama's Administration either clears him of all ludicrous charges or fails to get him into court at all.
We still have Truthers with Obama as President. We still have the hateful left. We still have psychotic neo-nazis trying to use this election the manipulate others. We still have an oncoming ice age. And until something drastic happens we still have the right to take part in the Democratic process. If we continue to value our principles, continue fighting for free speech and against ignorance I think we'll all be okay.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:25pm |
Opportunivores use moments like this to rampage, loot and seek revenge on their enemies.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:38pm |
re: #219 soccerdad
Hahahahahahahaha! Shit is starting already.
Israel launches first airstrike since June
They KNOW they are effed! Why bother to wait?
I don't think the Palestinians are going to like that there will be no one to hold back Israel now. Iran may not like it much either.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:50pm |
re: #248 redc1c4
in that case, i hope he wins, but i doubt your moral character will force you to fulfill your side of the bargain...
hehehehehe, funny. Let's stick together, eh?
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:54pm |
I wonder if this means they'll re-install ash trays in the White House.
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Karridine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:57pm |
re: #243 Adrenalyn
Adrenalyn, if Kor/NorK shoe drops (conflict re-ignites) it will affect China and Russia, both of which border on NorK... AND Japan, what with its proximity to the region... it'll get messy, FAST
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jcw46 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:12pm |
The REPUBLICAN party bears a large part of the blame for it's own demise/diminuation. THEY HAD 14 YEARS OF CONTROL OF CONGRESS. 8 YEARS WITH A "REPUBLICAN" PRESIDENT" yet they didn't reduce government by 1 damn wasteful program. They in fact EXPANDED government. They moaned for 30 years about how the Democrats were the "tax and spend liberals". They got their chance and blew it.
TIME FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO BE DISENFRANCHISED BY THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE FAILED. No not a 3rd party. The Republican party must be recognized as an adjunct to the Democrat party and destroyed (if they haven't already done that). (think about all the rino's. Rino's exist because people want to get into politics but can't/don't have the wherewithal to get into the inner circles of the democrat party to get elected so they change their party affiliation and voila --- now they're a republican. B.S. Think Mike Bloomberg. Dem then Rep now Ind. What a joke! HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LIBERAL!)
McCain was not an isolated situation just the most obvious one. I can think of a few others; Trent Lott, Lindsay Graham, Bob Dole, George Bush, Christopher Shays. Gee the names just roll off the tongue huh? They NEVER believed in Conservatism. Conservatism was their mantra to be repeated until they were elected then, "whoops, I've got to be a statesman and vote for the good of the country" Hah. Good of the Democrats they meant. Even the ones who did believe, were co-opted into going along "till we have more votes" or "when we have a majority" or "when we have the Presidency".
Well they had it, they blew it. Now we're faced with full blown socialism rolling down the tracks toward us and nowhere to jump. (Hillary looks pretty good right now, HUH?)
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:21pm |
re: #228 nigella
OK, Sorry if anyone thinks I'm a troll. I also don't think I'm overly emotional. The fact that I don't accept Obama totally doesn't make me a troll. It makes me a person who has a brain and can think for themselves. Sorry to disappoint you all.No wonder some of the "regulars"haven't shown themselves tonight. I guess they didn't want to go under the scrutiny of those who feel we should just all " get" along with the new Obama regime.
i think you're reaction to the O is perfectly acceptable. i've had so many emotions tonight. tears, fury, shock, bewilderment. it is just so hard to believe.
i will never call him president. not gonna happen. we need to go to work to expose him and try to defeat him at every turn when he seeks to implement his dangerous policies. you are right we won't be able to 'get' along w/ the new O regime.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:24pm |
re: #255 SpartanWoman
I think Romney would have been a better pick, no one could have tossed the inexperience label at him
He wouldn't have unified the base, though.
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Driftwood Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:29pm |
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:37pm |
re: #256 redmirabai
Helicopters circling over Seattle. Sounds of gunfire now and then.
Time to get away from the windows and pour another big glass of wine. It's gonna be a long night.
Helicopters? In Seattle? Are they black?
Oh, yeah. The messiah won. I guess they could be police or news choppers.
/sarc
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:53pm |
re: #258 ErislDysnomia
What evidence do you have for that?
My concern is, what more is there about him that we don't know?
I mentioned in the last thread that this reminds me of OJ, and the bruno mali shoes that happened to appear on an old photo of him - but only AFTER the verdict.
The LAT's has committed journalistic malpractice.
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:55pm |
re: #228 nigella
OK, Sorry if anyone thinks I'm a troll. I also don't think I'm overly emotional. The fact that I don't accept Obama totally doesn't make me a troll. It makes me a person who has a brain and can think for themselves. Sorry to disappoint you all.No wonder some of the "regulars"haven't shown themselves tonight. I guess they didn't want to go under the scrutiny of those who feel we should just all " get" along with the new Obama regime.
Nigella, it sounds like you have a dose of Obama derangment syndrome, or just OD. Dude you have just OD'ed and I advise you get some help by talking it over with your friends over the next few days. Obama is my future commander in chief, and he deserves a chance to prove him-self. You are acting like a typical liberal moonbat after the Bush elections. You can always move to Canada mate!
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:38:14pm |
re: #275 Karridine
'He'll be tested'.
I think he has no idea of the shitstorm about to ensue worldwide.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:38:19pm |
re: #278 looking closely
He wouldn't have unified the base, though.
The problem is McCain needed Palin at the midway point, and Romney late in the campaign.
Impossible. Sucks.
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Timbre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:38:20pm |
I can't believe Murtha won. He must have exaggerated the number of "rednecks" in his district...
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:38:28pm |
Does anyone think the deranged leftists (Kos, Olberdork, etc.) will suddenly become lovable?
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:38:43pm |
re: #258 ErislDysnomia
What evidence do you have for that?
My concern is, what more is there about him that we don't know?
I have no evidence my fear is unfounded. I think it's actually pretty substantiated. I was just expressing a hope is all.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:00pm |
re: #274 blackpajamas
I wonder if this means they'll re-install ash trays in the White House.
They may have to ask Hillary if she will bring them back!
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mrsnuggles Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:08pm |
When will the republican party have its own massive vote fraud organization? Unfortunately, it might be necessary if we are ever to win another election ever again.
This man is not a nice guy, he is not a judeo-christian believer, he is not a subscriber to the ideas of freedom and liberty that this country was founded on. Anybody that thinks we should "give him a chance" is insane, you might as well bend over and accept our new communist overlord.
If we are lucky, this country will spit out its first taste of socialism and kick all these bums out in 2-4 years. If not, my kids will not grow up in the same country that I did.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:12pm |
OK, I'm going to bed, and I'm not panicking. I just don't think we should all try to hitch our wagons to Obamas because he won.I don't care if I'm on the outside of Obama's Presidency. I feel by questioning him I am really on the right side. No koolaide for me... Even if it makes me an outsider.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:19pm |
re: #276 jcw46
The REPUBLICAN party bears a large part of the blame for it's own demise/diminuation. THEY HAD 14 YEARS OF CONTROL OF CONGRESS. 8 YEARS WITH A "REPUBLICAN" PRESIDENT" yet they didn't reduce government by 1 damn wasteful program. They in fact EXPANDED government. They moaned for 30 years about how the Democrats were the "tax and spend liberals". They got their chance and blew it.
TIME FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO BE DISENFRANCHISED BY THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE FAILED. No not a 3rd party. The Republican party must be recognized as an adjunct to the Democrat party and destroyed (if they haven't already done that). (think about all the rino's. Rino's exist because people want to get into politics but can't/don't have the wherewithal to get into the inner circles of the democrat party to get elected so they change their party affiliation and voila --- now they're a republican. B.S. Think Mike Bloomberg. Dem then Rep now Ind. What a joke! HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LIBERAL!)
McCain was not an isolated situation just the most obvious one. I can think of a few others; Trent Lott, Lindsay Graham, Bob Dole, George Bush, Christopher Shays. Gee the names just roll off the tongue huh? They NEVER believed in Conservatism. Conservatism was their mantra to be repeated until they were elected then, "whoops, I've got to be a statesman and vote for the good of the country" Hah. Good of the Democrats they meant. Even the ones who did believe, were co-opted into going along "till we have more votes" or "when we have a majority" or "when we have the Presidency".
Well they had it, they blew it. Now we're faced with full blown socialism rolling down the tracks toward us and nowhere to jump. (Hillary looks pretty good right now, HUH?)
McCain had a great record for zero earmarks - I thought that was amazing. However, it was meaningless to obama supporters.
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:20pm |
re: #238 rabidsquirrel
So, Noam, do you still have your OMD t-shirt :O
Didn't have to. I was one of those dark, brooding intellectuals that all girls want to boink at least once (many girls came back).
I listened to Stevie Ray Vaughan, before anyone knew who SRV was.
Good night, everyone.
The Republic will survive.
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:46pm |
re: #218 nyc redneck
i'm getting mad now.
{nyc redneck}
I've already gotten mad, now I'm in the depression mode, but can backslide to anger anytime.
I'm going to try to go to sleep. Had major nightmares last night, guess it was an omen as to what happened tonight.
G'nite you all.
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:47pm |
If the Elect has a pack-a-day habit, I wonder what he'll be up to when he's gotta deal with hairy foreign policy situations. They'll need to upgrade ashtray-one.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:50pm |
re: #275 Karridine
Adrenalyn, if Kor/NorK shoe drops (conflict re-ignites) it will affect China and Russia, both of which border on NorK... AND Japan, what with its proximity to the region... it'll get messy, FAST
it's going to get messy fast
DHS and FS will lose many good people and soon
the military is a given also, I don't need to tell anyone that
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:53pm |
we've een providing Europe with defense for 60 yrs-the USA.
Now that is probably not going to happen anymore. They europe-onscan send us lefty goofy messages and parliamentary bouquets. But they are bare. Tehy have not spent a dime on their own protection in years.
For example Fwance make great helicopters. The police use them, in the USA. But they were woefully short of thm in the P.D. when the Muslim yoots were rioting.
So what now, is that not an invitation for PUtin to roll over the whole of europe? Like Union of Soviet Socalists Republics? Again?
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:06pm |
You know, Lizards, I never really believed this would happen. I never really believed Americans could ever, EVER, in my lifetime do something like this, elect a person with Obama's radical Marxist background and lack of experience to the most powerful office on the planet. I was sick tonight and slept until about 11, and when I logged on to LGF, I thought I would see that reason and sanity still prevailed in this country, that I could still have faith in my fellow citizens to do the right thing.
Right now I can't even begin to wrap my head around what has happened today. I'm not sure any of us have begun to grasp the enormity of it. I feel as if we have slipped down the rabbit hole, and I wonder if we will ever be able to find our way back to normalcy. America is about to become like the "rest of the world." I don't WANT us to be like the rest of the world. I WANT us to be different, unique, exceptional. I want us to be the sane country I grew up in, where most people knew wrong from right, where they understood the seductive dangers of utopian thinking, where people seemed innoculated from the insanity (doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result) that grips much of the rest of the world.
Right now I have a heavy feeling in the pit of my stomach. My only hope is that most of the people who voted for O did so because they were ignorant about who and what he really is. Even that is small consolation, to think that so many Americans voted for him even though they knew nothing about him.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:08pm |
re: #291 DistantThunder
McCain had a great record for zero earmarks - I thought that was amazing. However, it was meaningless to obama supporters.
Lefty wants free stuff!
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:08pm |
Unless I miss my guess, the leaders of Japan, Chile, Brazil, and probably several others have quietly issued orders tonight to initiate the construction of their own nuclear weapons.
Iran is on the march, Kim Jong Il and Hugo Chavez are their allies, and realists the world over do not trust Obama to restrain them.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:20pm |
re: #257 Cognito
You have a fixation.
no: you pop and say some thing stupid, and i use it to mock you, just as i said i would. you don;t like being mocked, either don;t post stupid shit, if you can, or, if you can't, don't post. the marketplace of ideas is no place for wimps like you. suck it up or go home.
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Steffan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:21pm |
re: #87 pablito
Nice one. The ultimate in Bush Derangement Syndrome. Blame Bush for the people and institutions who hate and relentlessly bash him.
Reminds me of the Holocaust being blamed on Jews.
Well done. You got your ding down like you asked.
I agree entirely, with an upding for you, the downdinger.''
We have seen BDS, PDS and ObS in these forums. None truly deseved it.
Should any of the deramge,emtshould bedreserved...bting popcorn,.
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rawmuse Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:33pm |
re: #270 DeathtotheSwiss
I don't care that he didn't vote, but he had the temerity to chew out those of us who did. WTF?
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:36pm |
Clinton brought us 9/11.
If I lived in NY, DC, LA etc I would watch the skies
once BO has control of the CIA, NSA and so on.
I hope I'm wrong.
But who opposes the:
Patriot Act
Gitmo Prison
Iraq War
"warrantless wiretaps"
and every other measure that has prevented another September 11 in the last 8 years...
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:38pm |
re: #278 looking closely
He wouldn't have unified the base, though.
I blame Huckabee. He's a dope with a mail-order diploma from Bible college who played on anti-Mormon bigotry to squeeze out the most qualified candidate we had.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:39pm |
re: #284 Cognito
The problem is McCain needed Palin at the midway point, and Romney late in the campaign.
Impossible. Sucks.
Thats why he should have rolled out who he would have appointed to his Cabinet. Imagine how much more willing people would be to vote for someone knowing that they'll have A SPECIALIST as Department of Treasury, a kick ass Attorney General in Giuliani, etc.
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SFGoth Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:43pm |
re: #247 LoFlyer
They will hit Iran soon, they know they have no choice than do it now, mates!
They won't do it. No political courage. Gaza is police stuff.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:53pm |
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:54pm |
re: #294 blackpajamas
If the Elect has a pack-a-day habit, I wonder what he'll be up to when he's gotta deal with hairy foreign policy situations. They'll need to upgrade ashtray-one.
LOL!
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:02pm |
re: #284 Cognito
The problem is McCain needed Palin at the midway point, and Romney late in the campaign.
Impossible. Sucks.
There were many problems.
The biggest one with Palin, I think, is that McCain let an unprecedented negative campaign by the Obama people define and then destroy her.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:07pm |
re: #300 redc1c4
no: you pop and say some thing stupid, and i use it to mock you, just as i said i would. you don;t like being mocked, either don;t post stupid shit, if you can, or, if you can't, don't post. the marketplace of ideas is no place for wimps like you. suck it up or go home.
Apparently you've mistaken this for junior high.
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garycooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:07pm |
Most conservatives I know in real life, here in economically-ravaged Michigan, saw McCain's defeat as a fait accompli since June. There was a brief moment of hope (but no real change) after the nomination of Palin and the post-convention bounce, but then the gas prices kept rising, the credit-crisis and Wall Street freak-out occurred, and it was all over but the crying.
I'm not happy about the new Prez's politics and total lack of experience, along with some other not-so-fine character traits he's displayed, but I'm not going to let this election ruin my life. Life's too short, and I've worked too hard to make a good life for myself and my family, to have a mental and emotional meltdown like some spotty brat at Daily Kos, or some post-menopausal shrieking harridan horking bile at Huffington Post. We are now officially the Opposition Party, and I for one intend to attempt to be civil about it. Merciless, and ever-vigilant, but civil.
Love that "Fresh Prince Of Bill Ayers" sobriquet, whoever it was who coined it. Can't top that one, but the eerie unknowability and cipher-like quality of our new Prez, along with his radical underpinnings, put the name "Eldritch Cleaver" into my head just now.
I would like to qualify that by admitting that even though I abhor the man's politics and personal associations, and feel he will most likely be a bad, ineffectual president, I can't help but be semi-pleased that "Racist Amerikkka" elected a black man president. Up yours, Leftist Europe! ;)
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:10pm |
Looking ahead to the possibility of an Obama administration, some baseball agents already are thinking about trying to beat a possible tax increase for their well-paid clients.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has proposed increasing the top federal income tax rate from 35 percent to 39.6 percent, where it was under the Clinton administration. If signing bonuses are paid before Jan. 1, they likely would be taxed at the current rate and would not be subject to any tax increase.
"It's something we'll consider," agent Craig Landis said Tuesday at the general managers' meetings. "Besides the federal issue, we have a state issue in some cases, anyway, where it's advantageous to take signing bonuses because of the state income tax. A Florida resident can take the signing bonus and not have to pay his team's state tax."
last comment
Please don't hide your monies,
I need some rent funds.
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:15pm |
The important thing to realise, and I say this to all LGFers who believe that regardless of the outcome, that there are now bad times ahead ...
Never lose faith in the human spirit, and choose your actions in the spirit of dignity. Challenges lie ahead, and to be anything less than fair spirited and honorable would make lesser people of us all.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:20pm |
The real question is, will the new Dem leadership be content with their ascent to power, or do they still have enough bloodlust left to go after Bush's administration in a year's worth of kangaroo show trials? If Obama's form of bridge-building and unity is to turn this country into some third-world banana republic where former leaders are lined up against the wall after la revolucion, then we can assume that we are absolutely, truly fucked as a nation. Then we will know that we have, indeed, elected President Chavez.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:23pm |
re: #267 Cognito
I figured this junk was happening around the country.
Man. I think of the difference between the way the people on the left are behaving, and the way the people on the right would have behaved, and it confirms for me that I stand on the upright side.
so you admit to being a leftist... like we hadn't already figured that out.
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tackle Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:31pm |
I'm in! Finally.
First, thanks Charles for busting your ass these past few weeks and showing class tonight. The content on LGF has been both provoking and enlightening.
Second, I'm going take a deep breath and say something positive. Thanks to this election, I'm more involved with politics than I've ever been, and I intend to keep it that way and make my voice be heard. I'm sure there will be ample opportunity for me in the next four years.
As much as a small, mean part of me wants to see Obama flounder and fail, I pray that by some miracle this presidency won't be the disaster that I feel it will be.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:43pm |
re: #276 jcw46
Hillary indeed looks good. Let's not turn it over to Karl Marx just yet, though. Let's not forget that Obama won because, and only because, he embraced conservative ideals - namely, cutting taxes. Even if his actual stated agenda is a facade, he still had to run under a "cut taxes" plan to win
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:58pm |
re: #252 Adrenalyn
I disagree
Arnold was done in by himselfhe could have had the courage to stand up to the dems
and he could have had the sense to make cuts
instead of borrowing when he took overArnold-Bush
Bush-Arnold
two peacemakers who got walked on
Are you here in CA? Did you see the fire brought to bear against Arnold's policies and initiatives? He didn't start giving ground until after that humiliating defeat. CA government is broken, and it has been a long time coming. Arnold is just the latest steward of this mess. I am so hoping that Prop 11 passes and we have a chance to fix it.
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:42:16pm |
re: #304 doppelganglander
I blame Huckabee. He's a dope with a mail-order diploma from Bible college who played on anti-Mormon bigotry to squeeze out the most qualified candidate we had.
Amen, brother.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:18pm |
re: #315 redc1c4
so you admit to being a leftist... like we hadn't already figured that out.
Grow up. Seriously.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:30pm |
watch for a blockade of Taiwan about Feb 09. What is ***going to do? Like nothing, or a strongly worded diplomatic letter?
/charge the Chicoms for the carbon used bythe warships.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:33pm |
re: #297 Tigger2005
Tigger - we have work to do. Let's get to work.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:36pm |
re: #296 big L
we've een providing Europe with defense for 60 yrs-the USA.
Now that is probably not going to happen anymore. They europe-onscan send us lefty goofy messages and parliamentary bouquets. But they are bare. Tehy have not spent a dime on their own protection in years.
For example Fwance make great helicopters. The police use them, in the USA. But they were woefully short of thm in the P.D. when the Muslim yoots were rioting.
So what now, is that not an invitation for PUtin to roll over the whole of europe? Like Union of Soviet Socalists Republics? Again?
This *might* be good if Obama were simply to permit Europe to spend more of its own money on guns, but not butter.
The problem is not only that Europe probably isn't prepared to do that, but that Obama is going to increase spending in so many other places, that there won't be any net domestic economic benefit of the cuts.
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Clubsec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:38pm |
Doin' range work now. Long hours, tough remote conditions.* Very tired. Team was eating dinner when CNN made their prediction. Just before we all left to go back to the hotel it said that Florida went for BHO. wow ... just wow. So much for the offspring of Abraham having any sort of survival instincts or skills to promote same. Pray for Israel. BHO is going to drop them like a hot potato(e).
Anyone wonder why you don't hear about any rocket attacks from the West Bank lately? Land Phalanx is why. Bet BHO has those weapon groups 'recalled' for political reasons.
Wonder if aerospace and defense will take on the chin for BHO cause he needs $900x10^9 to make good on his campaign promises.
And I wonder what the next episode of 9/11 will be like? I wonder about the military and if it will be mortally damaged by this election?
Barney Frank wants a 25% cut in military spending. Now they may try for 35% cut in defense spending.
Sleep well America (for the time being) ... you have made your choices and you must live with them for the next 730 or so days.
As the fellow-in-arms said to Robert Wallace facing British knights (in the movie Braveheart): "We're fucked."
I go sleep now.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:43pm |
re: #254 TheMatrix31
I hate all those sites all the guys here that gave me hope about this election.
Sorry, Kid. But I'm not an Eeyore. I'm an optimist. I wasn't trying to keep spirits up to fuck with people. I tried to keep spirits up because conceding before the battle has even been fought is a sure way to defeat. Sorry if you're disappointed in me, but that's how I fight.
I have my long term goals in mind. Everyone else needs to figure out what theirs are because this is going to be a long term process turning back this desire for socialist collectivism.
Think, folks. What are you going to do?
Good night.
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Mark1957 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:46pm |
Bad news: Beginning January 20th, 2009 all of our good-time troll buddies are gonna be on permanent defense. Get used to it.
Good news: Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews are now in deep shit. How many times will they be able to praise The Wise and Farsighted Policies of Dear Leader before even the moonbats violently retch and then surf over to "Survivor: North Waziristan?"
Even better news: Intrade is now offering odds that both Olbermann and Matthews will be standing on street corners holding "WILL RANT FOR FOOD" signs by the end of next year.
Super-duper good news: The most popular moonbat car bumpersticker in 2010? "COME BACK DUBYA: ALL IS FORGIVEN!"
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:47pm |
re: #276 jcw46
every president that has run on a platform of reducing government has in fact increased it...sad but true.We need to reinvent the party.
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:50pm |
coleman up by 15k at the 84% mark per CNN
coleman 1,019,117
Stuart Smalley 1,004,060
pathetic independant 368,570
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Tarkus289 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:13pm |
One of the things that is different about Bush derangement syndrome is that it is based on perception and lies, it isn't reality, if the big "o" is half as bad as we think, his flaws will be real and all will see them.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:23pm |
The President cannot function without advisers or without advice, written or oral. But just as soon as he is required to show what kind of advice he has had, who said what to him, or what kind of records he has, the advice he receives will be worthless.
Harry S. Truman
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:28pm |
re: #297 Tigger2005
You know, Lizards, I never really believed this would happen. I never really believed Americans could ever, EVER, in my lifetime do something like this, elect a person with Obama's radical Marxist background and lack of experience to the most powerful office on the planet. I was sick tonight and slept until about 11, and when I logged on to LGF, I thought I would see that reason and sanity still prevailed in this country, that I could still have faith in my fellow citizens to do the right thing.
Right now I can't even begin to wrap my head around what has happened today. I'm not sure any of us have begun to grasp the enormity of it. I feel as if we have slipped down the rabbit hole, and I wonder if we will ever be able to find our way back to normalcy. America is about to become like the "rest of the world." I don't WANT us to be like the rest of the world. I WANT us to be different, unique, exceptional. I want us to be the sane country I grew up in, where most people knew wrong from right, where they understood the seductive dangers of utopian thinking, where people seemed innoculated from the insanity (doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result) that grips much of the rest of the world.
Right now I have a heavy feeling in the pit of my stomach. My only hope is that most of the people who voted for O did so because they were ignorant about who and what he really is. Even that is small consolation, to think that so many Americans voted for him even though they knew nothing about him.
obama's election is simply a manifestation of the rot that has taken hold in american culture. If you listen to the ex-KGB agent video - he describes the steps of implementing marxism, and the first is de-moralization: indulging the population to the point that they no longer know right from wrong - they can justify anything as long as it benefits them. Then economic destabilization. So when Obama shows up and promises them everything, inspite of his horribly corrupt past, and nefarious associations - the corrupted people embrace him as a savior. They cannot discern, scam artists from the genuine leader.
It is better that we see the rot, and address it.
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:35pm |
re: #297 Tigger2005
Once the Elect realizes he's in very deeply over his head, and he's got a fundamental decision to make; let Biden run the show, or try to make a go of it, then he might find religion and abdicate most of his previous beliefs, for self preservation -- which probably means he'll need to up-armor the cigarette recepticles all around the White House (or just start converting rooms altogether, like the the Oval Ashtray).
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:43pm |
Here's a lovely sentiment from those to whom we should accept defeat with grace as seen on the the McCain Wikipedia entry:
"McCain lost the 2008 presidential election to Barack Obama.Obama epically won because McCain fails at life."
Lovely.
I will not offer my congratulations to such filth.
My mother (who was born during the Great Depression when the s*** really hit the fan in 1933) is not taking things well at all, and I can't blame her knowing the many hardships she has endured in her nearly 75 years.
It angered me to even ask my father, another Depression Baby (born in 1930), who was a Lt. JG (Operations Officer on an LST) in the USNR and saw combat in the Korean War and assisted the in the French evacuation from Indochina (Viet Nam), what on earth has happened - how is it that the same ideology (Communism) that he and his fellow members of the Armed Forces valiantly fought to halt in its tracks has ultimately taken firm root in our very own country? He was as dumbstruck as I was initially.
As the elder of their two children, I have been involved extensively in my parents' personal affairs, and I'm deeply concerned for their continued well-being. They're not to the point of eating dog food, but they're not comfortably well-off either. It's not much better for me as I'm currently freelancing from home as I assist them with the upkeep of their home, etc. I haven't become a member of the lunatic fringe by any means, but that may quickly change should even the least radical predictions materialize.
In the meantime, I'd like to thank you, Charles, for allowing me to continue to post even when some of my comments are (in hindsight) not really worth a drop of hamster sweat, and the sense of camaraderie that I feel when I come here. I now realize that keeping myself and my immediate family members informed is simply no longer enough, and that a greater commitment to promoting and ensuring the endurance of the ideals that have made our country great is required on my part. As a buck Private in the Lizard Army, I take solace in that I am not alone.
May God Bless America, John McCain, Sarah Palin, and all those who refuse to go down without a fight!
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:51pm |
re: #321 Redline
It's 1938 all over again.
Guaranteed .. today was the first showing of the 'civillian army'. It already has a uniform and a nighstick. Once the second amendment is discarded, they will also have guns.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:45:00pm |
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Captain Amercia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:45:24pm |
600 million dollars, every major TV media outlet except one, nearly every major news paper, Hollywood superstars and millions voting along racial lines. A weak Republican running a weak campaign. It took a perfect storm to get this guy elected. See you in four.
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RTLM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:45:42pm |
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:45:50pm |
re: #319 CyanSnowHawk
Are you here in CA? Did you see the fire brought to bear against Arnold's policies and initiatives? He didn't start giving ground until after that humiliating defeat. CA government is broken, and it has been a long time coming. Arnold is just the latest steward of this mess. I am so hoping that Prop 11 passes and we have a chance to fix it.
Yes I am "the mad mullah on the mountain"
formerly just "the mullah on the mountain"
and I knew Arnold was doomed as soon as he tried to borrow his way out of the Davis Debacle (c)
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:25pm |
This election defeat will stay in my memory for a very long time, I am still PO'ed that Bruce Herschensohn lost to Boxer.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:32pm |
re: #304 doppelganglander
I blame Huckabee. He's a dope with a mail-order diploma from Bible college who played on anti-Mormon bigotry to squeeze out the most qualified candidate we had.
it was a repulsive onslaught of attacks by Huckabee, attacking his faith, and his honorably earned prosperity - and now he is rewarded with his own TV shows. That's OK, Glenn Beck is LDS, and he has the 5pm slot on Fox. I'll bet that makes Huckabee burn.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:36pm |
OK, Now I have Obama derangement syndromn because I don't want to follow him? Listen, I have been here for awhile, and no one could ever call me extreme.I just am not ready to accept Obama as POTUS . Don't get me wrong I merely mean I am not ready to accept Obama's every word. I would never debase the office of the Presidency. I believe Obama will do that on his own. I just won't drink the koolaide.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:41pm |
re: #304 doppelganglander
I blame Huckabee. He's a dope with a mail-order diploma from Bible college who played on anti-Mormon bigotry to squeeze out the most qualified candidate we had.
Umm... this is the kind of divisiveness I'm talking about. How do you plan on beating Obama in 2012? What group are you going to align with? Do you think Christians, or Marxists are closer to your thinking?
Wake up everyone.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:44pm |
re: #327 Sharmuta
Sorry, Kid. But I'm not an Eeyore. I'm an optimist. I wasn't trying to keep spirits up to fuck with people. I tried to keep spirits up because conceding before the battle has even been fought is a sure way to defeat. Sorry if you're disappointed in me, but that's how I fight.
I have my long term goals in mind. Everyone else needs to figure out what theirs are because this is going to be a long term process turning back this desire for socialist collectivism.
Think, folks. What are you going to do?
Good night.
I'm definitely not upset at you, Sharm. Don't take it the wrong way. I just hate when things fall through after being optimistic for so long :)
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:50pm |
re: #267 Cognito
I just read McCain's concession speech, and wept. Whatever his faults as a campaigner, he is a man with a great heart. Would The One have been as gracious, and as conciliatory?
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:59pm |
re: #309 looking closely
There were many problems.
The biggest one with Palin, I think, is that McCain let an unprecedented negative campaign by the Obama people define and then destroy her.
One of many mistakes made by McCain. The McCain campaign lost momemtum with the BS over troopergate and Palin's daughters pregnancy, the media deserves the most credit for the Obama victory and I say it is time to make them pay for their unprofessionalism mates!
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:47:13pm |
CHARLES - just wanted to say, again, THANK YOU for your tireless efforts today and tonight - hell for as long as I've been on LGF!
BUT - I do have one last favor to ask - BEFORE YOU TURN IN OR AT LEAST GET SOME REST, WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO PUT UP ANOTHER OPEN THREAD, so that those of us on East Coast Time and Central Time will have a DT we can get to that starts before
oh 1100 comments or so?!?
Thank you.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:47:15pm |
re: #313 Buster Bunny
The important thing to realise, and I say this to all LGFers who believe that regardless of the outcome, that there are now bad times ahead ...
Never lose faith in the human spirit, and choose your actions in the spirit of dignity. Challenges lie ahead, and to be anything less than fair spirited and honorable would make lesser people of us all.
survival is more important than anything else. i have more faith in the 1903 we brought home today than i do in the spirit of most of people. most of them are nice enough in society, but have no spine, no fortitude and would sell out anyone/thing in a minute to escape even the slightest deprivation... we have raised 3 or 4 generations of whinny crybabies who expect to be spoonfed, and now we're reaping the result.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:47:25pm |
re: #314 Lizard by the Bay
The real question is, will the new Dem leadership be content with their ascent to power, or do they still have enough bloodlust left to go after Bush's administration in a year's worth of kangaroo show trials?
Yes.
If Obama's form of bridge-building and unity is to turn this country into some third-world banana republic where former leaders are lined up against the wall after la revolucion, then we can assume that we are absolutely, truly fucked as a nation. Then we will know that we have, indeed, elected President Chavez.
Indeed.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:47:28pm |
re: #348 redmirabai
I just read McCain's concession speech, and wept. Whatever his faults as a campaigner, he is a man with a great heart. Would The One have been as gracious, and as conciliatory?
I have no idea. I wish we could have found out.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:47:35pm |
re: #309 looking closely
disagree,she was an asset to the ticket,all their attacks didn't touch her.Mccain was running fron a huge disadvantage to begin with.The msm didn't"vet"their anointed from the get go.Mccain coould have run with reagan or eisenhower and not done much better.
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:47:45pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:48:13pm |
re: #333 DistantThunder
It is better that we see the rot, and address it.
Exactly, DT.
Think, folks. What are YOU going to do about it?
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:48:16pm |
re: #295 Adrenalyn
That's OK---there will be plenty of true believers with weapons experience to take their place.
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cowwoc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:48:57pm |
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you guys should "sleep on it". Yes, many of us didn't want Obama to win, but win he did and in a very big way. Both McCain and Obama's closing speeches were gracious, for which we can be thankful.
Let's give Obama a chance. We owe him a reasonable grace period to try to implement his vision before jumping to conclusions. We owe that much to anyone who wins by such a large margin.
If he makes unreasonable mistakes I'll be the first to jump all over this, but for now I think we owe it to ourselves and the rest of the country to digest the results and focus on restoring unity.
There is no greater threat to the USA and the Western World than infighting, especially at a time like this. Let's make the best of this situation.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:05pm |
297-tigger. Itwas completely disingenuous,imo. they just want to stick a thumb in teh establishement's eye. Baby boomers still fighting with their parents. Dragging a lot of usefull idiots with them-- Stooges.
They'll blame GWB and that will go on for years, as that is Obama's narcissist m.o.To wit, blame someone else.
In school we calledthem DOCs. That was dick-on-campus.
Or a wiener. And Obama is a wiener.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:14pm |
re: #349 LoFlyer
One of many mistakes made by McCain. The McCain campaign lost momemtum with the BS over troopergate and Palin's daughters pregnancy, the media deserves the most credit for the Obama victory and I say it is time to make them pay for their unprofessionalism mates!
BOYCOTT them. Boycott their advertisers.
Spread the word to do this to all the talk radio hosts and conservative bloggers.
Let's roll.
A constitutional republic needs an open media.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:33pm |
45% of vote counted
Christine Gregoire*(D)
699,273 votes
52% of vote
Dino Rossi (R)
650,793 votes
48% of vote
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:42pm |
re: #348 redmirabai
I just read McCain's concession speech, and wept. Whatever his faults as a campaigner, he is a man with a great heart. Would The One have been as gracious, and as conciliatory?
Here's how democrats concede..
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Timbre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:44pm |
re: #341 RTLM
I think its more like 1976, all things considered.
Carter got attacked by a swamp rabbit. I wonder of Obama will be attacked by a Southside alley rat?
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:11pm |
Think of this.
Obama never released his medical records (among a host of records he sat on) and we know he has a history of drug use and maybe other unhealthy habits.
Biden has a history of brain aneuryisms.
Can you say President Pelosi?
Feel better now?
I really need to go to bed. The dreams can't be worse than reality.
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:19pm |
By the way, notice how well Fox commentators are handling themselves. Anyone else remember how MSNBC anchors behaved? Like they were at a funeral. Liberals=silly spoiled children.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:44pm |
re: #327 Sharmuta Hey Sharm - on the off chance you really haven't gone to bed yet!
I did all I am physically capable of to help McCain out; I phoned, e-mailed and talked face to face with as many people as I could.
What I'd like to know is WHERE WERE THE PUMAS?
And btw, as per your #9 above, Killgore is NOT the enemy - true; but he isn't any kind of ally, either.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:45pm |
BTW, Sharm (and everyone)...I greatly appreciate EVERYTHING you did in order to further our efforts. You guys did a hell of a job. We were just against an unstoppable force tonight.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:46pm |
re: #363 BakaRanger
I hope to God he demands at least ONE recount.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:47pm |
The end of the Mayan calendar falls on December 21, 2012! Say, isn't that during 0bama's presidency (even though it is after the next presidential election)?
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caligal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:58pm |
I hope this man does not bring disaster to our country.
God Bless America!
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:01pm |
re: #349 LoFlyer
I wouldn't call it unprofessionalism.
I would call it perjury.
I would call it treason.
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:13pm |
With 97.8% of precincts reporting, McCain leads Obama by 17700 votes in Missouri. I'm staying up until thas confirmed.
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SagamoreGal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:26pm |
Could Sarah make it to DC after all?
What is Alaska's policy about replacing a Senator? If Stevens wins (which looks very possible right now) and he's carted off to jail can Sarah name herself as his replacement?
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LC LaWedgie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:35pm |
re: #20 Fierce Guppy
The present U.S./World economy is in no shape to ride out either Carter or Obama.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:35pm |
re: #336 Buster Bunny
Guaranteed .. today was the first showing of the 'civillian army'. It already has a uniform and a nighstick. Once the second amendment is discarded, they will also have guns.
Kind of makes one wonder, how long till Obama replaces the Secret Service with Farrakan's Nation of Islam goons.
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:36pm |
re: #316 tackle
Welcome aboard! Hatchlings buy the first round. Or, in this case, the tenth round.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:38pm |
re: #358 redmirabai
That's OK---there will be plenty of true believers with weapons experience to take their place.
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disagree though
after 9/11 man quit already
many had 2 in the family and it caused many to evaluate the risks both husband and wife took (the male/female kind)
and one would leave, for the children
now, the futility of trying to work under new rules will cause a bigger drain
look what the Clinton-era ROE has done to the military
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:39pm |
re: #24 arethusa
Are there any Washington Lizards here? Gregoire is ahead of Rossi?
I'm here, and yes, she is. King 5 says she has declared herself "the winner". I don't know who's reported so far, but I thought King County was supposed to be one of the last...as usual, so they can figure out how many they "need".
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:48pm |
re: #346 faraway
Umm... this is the kind of divisiveness I'm talking about. How do you plan on beating Obama in 2012? What group are you going to align with? Do you think Christians, or Marxists are closer to your thinking?
Wake up everyone.
I'm not aligning with anyone until I find someone or some group that I feel truly represents my views. I'm a Christian, but I am utterly repulsed by the anti-Mormon sentiment that was revealed in some quarters. I'm not a big fan of the Christian socialists that dominate most of the mainline churches, either. Therefore I've been without a church for a while and probably will remain unaffiliated. Soon I'll find out whether I have a political party or not.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:51pm |
re: #345 nigella
OK, Now I have Obama derangement syndromn because I don't want to follow him? Listen, I have been here for awhile, and no one could ever call me extreme.I just am not ready to accept Obama as POTUS . Don't get me wrong I merely mean I am not ready to accept Obama's every word. I would never debase the office of the Presidency. I believe Obama will do that on his own. I just won't drink the koolaide.
I know you feel alot of passion - but don't let them steal your joy. conservatives are more cheerful than Democrats - and we have ourselves to thank for that. You can fight back, but move past the anger to something more powerful. It will be instructive for generations to come to watch obama trip over his own tie.
Character matters in leadership...and, like clinton, it's lack, will be obvious for all to see. And, as I posted earlier, Obama thinks he has us on a leash, it is more like a 5 year old with a bull mastiff on a leash. How entertaining is that?
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:53pm |
re: #318 cliffster
Hillary indeed looks good. Let's not turn it over to Karl Marx just yet, though. Let's not forget that Obama won because, and only because, he embraced conservative ideals - namely, cutting taxes. Even if his actual stated agenda is a facade, he still had to run under a "cut taxes" plan to win
Please. He's not cutting taxes. He is giving permanent, recurring payments to people that don't work. These are tax REFUNDS to people that don't work. They knew it, and he knew it. As Malcolm X said, we've been "hoodwinked". He bought the election with our money.
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StudSupreme Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:54pm |
BRACE FOR IMPACT.
They did their job 'well', didn't they?
Howard Dean.
Daily Kos.
Move On.
World Can't Wait.
Code Pink.
ACORN.
Huffington Post.
The Nation.
They studied the mindless energized mass movements created by Fascism, National Socialism, Communism.
They studied how Pravda communicated.
They analyzed the tactics used by Mao in his revolutionary conquest, and afterwards during the Cultural Revolution.
They learned from Goebbels and the demagoguery of the Third Reich.
A N D
I T
W O R K E D .
An incontestable and unopposable supermajority in Congress.
A Marxist President.
A Supreme Court with possibly FOUR upcoming vacancies.
A soon-to-be-formed National Internal Security Force - beyond the FBI, Home Sec or any other agency, as well armed as the US Armed Forces - that is targetted at THE YOUNG, who will be trained and indoctrinated so that they are IDEOLOGICALLY PURE.
And a combined media relations arm of the Mainstream Press and Hollywood who are their willing ideological partners.
There will be a movement to destroy books, film and television programs of the past that spoke praisingly of the lone hero or the pioneers.
There will be federal legislation to permit blocking and intervention in all literature, broadcasts and public discourse that is considered..."Unfair."
A dark cloud hangs over the Bald Eagle, and her banner with Stars and Stripes hangs limp.
I have a sister. My sister is hardly a conservative. She called me today. She wants advice and support from me to go gun shopping because she feels she needs to buy a firearm for home defense.
I spent my vacations this year travelling around the West. Folks were curious, interested, incredibly polite, totally genuine, warm, friendly, completely open and honest. They lived and worked outdoors, and really did look and act like can-do, energetic Frontiersmen. I would have been honored to call any of them Friend if I had known them better.
They'll come under fierce attack in the coming years, as the powers that be will try to eradicate their heritage and imposing The New Thinking.
You'll see George Soros and Warren Buffett amass fortunes vastly greater than the ones they already have.
Congrats, NYT.
Congrats, Marcos Moulitas.
Congrats, Bill Ayers.
Congrats, Reverend Wright.
You will see America wounded multiple times by her own elected leaders, hemorraging, pummeled, chained, hobbled. And you will feel undisguised joy at the crime against the World that you have managed to commit - the crime of crippling the greatest defender of the innocent, the liberator of nations from the grip of tyranny, whose lady carries a torch on high for all to see so that they can come to the Light and be Free.
Stalin, Brezhnev, Mao and Hitler will be smiling and chuckling in their graves.
This ain't over, folks.
You think Sarah Palin can lead the Republicans back to the True Path and step forward in 2012 to get America back on the Path that Washington, Jefferson and Franklin put us on, following the principles of the Enlightenment?
I can guarantee you that DailyKos and the rest of the lunatic left entourage will feel SO STOKED by their new power that they will feel emboldened enough to actually attack her physically, maybe even try to kill her.
BRACE YOURSELVES.
The sons of Marx will be doing their absolute best over the next four years to destroy the nation founded on the ideas of Adam Smith and the minds of the Enlightenment, a true pillar of hope and faith in the potential greatness of the individual, a nation that has invented the modern age, split the atom, walked on another planet, and sent its electromechanical scouts called Pioneer and Voyager out into the cosmos, and set BILLIONS of others FREE.
A nation where my own ancestors came, fleeing places without any opportunity, hope or future, to simply have the chance to build something, unfettered, to create a real vision of hope and a future for themselves or - more typically - sacrificing their own happiness and future for the sake of offering opportunity to their children.
I feel like shit tonite.
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itellu3times Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:04pm |
re: #297 Tigger2005
I would never have believed that, less than ten years after 9/11, the American public would consider for a moment, a guy named Barack Hussein Obama for president, no matter what his qualities. That this guy *has* no qualities other than a big mouth, makes it that much worse.
The condescending, patronizing, maudlin coverage by the MSM tonight is beyond belief, it's like they just got a new puppy. That this puppy is about to be POTUS, does not seem to have penetrated their carefully coiffed heads.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:14pm |
re: #363 BakaRanger
45% of vote counted
Christine Gregoire*(D)
699,273 votes
52% of voteDino Rossi (R)
650,793 votes
48% of vote
I hope that Rossi pulls this one out. We need to get rid of the current gov.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:15pm |
re: #370 redmirabai
I hope to God he demands at least ONE recount.
I agree, the last election was stolen from him.
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:22pm |
There is one real silver lining...as we were discussing in the lounge...professional race baiters like J Jackson and Rev. Al are officially out of business.
Coleman up over 17 thousand.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:33pm |
re: #363 BakaRanger
45% of vote counted
Christine Gregoire*(D)
699,273 votes
52% of voteDino Rossi (R)
650,793 votes
48% of vote
Christ, I'm getting tired! I just up dinged for Queen Christine!
Okay, now I'm neutral. Charles, please sir, may I have another (down ding)?
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stevieray Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:46pm |
re: #299 Shiplord Kirel
Unless I miss my guess, the leaders of Japan, Chile, Brazil, and probably several others have quietly issued orders tonight to initiate the construction of their own nuclear weapons.
Iran is on the march, Kim Jong Il and Hugo Chavez are their allies, and realists the world over do not trust Obama to restrain them.
Japan and Brazil only need to restart their programs, if the scuttlebutt is true.
The belief that electing Obama is going to bring any kind of peace to the world is sadly, deeply naive. Evil will be on the hunt beginning in January. The World Police Force just retired.
In fact, I predict that Pakistan and India will be in a full scale war within a year -- and the irresponsible statements by Barack make that almost inevitable. The Jihadists and their sympathizers in the Pakistani government won't wait around to see if Obama really means it when he promises to militarily interfere in their country.
They will decide "use it or lose it".
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:47pm |
re: #375 SagamoreGal
Could Sarah make it to DC after all?
What is Alaska's policy about replacing a Senator? If Stevens wins (which looks very possible right now) and he's carted off to jail can Sarah name herself as his replacement?
I'd say probably not.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:56pm |
re: #26 doppelganglander
I am hoping they will prove to be utterly insignificant, and Obama will be as well remembered as Martin Van Buren, James K. Polk, and Franklin Pierce.
I think he will rightfully be remembered as Jimmy Carter's second term.
I'm goin with ... horse's arse.
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:53:15pm |
re: #357 Sharmuta
Think, folks. What are YOU going to do about it?
Arrange your finances for the absolute least possible tax obligation. Develop 1 or 2 backup plans for if (when) the economy goes south, preferably in essential basic trades. Healthcare, construction, etc.
My rule of hope for the best, prepare for the worst is now more appropriate than ever. 'Best' is now off the table.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:53:39pm |
Al Franken is proof that there are over 1 million people in Minnesota who are complete idiots.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:53:48pm |
re: #318 cliffster
Hillary indeed looks good. Let's not turn it over to Karl Marx just yet, though. Let's not forget that Obama won because, and only because, he embraced conservative ideals - namely, cutting taxes. Even if his actual stated agenda is a facade, he still had to run under a "cut taxes" plan to win
he's no more "cutting taxes" than i'm a TV talking head... he's paying out tax credits, which is other people's money, mostly to people who already get all their withholding back.
IOW: you pay in what you always pay in, and you get that back, plus some more. i give you two guesses where the extra comes from... yup, other taxpayers or the printing presses at the Mint.
either way the economy is screwed, and then revenues drop more, so where does the money come from then? higher taxes on what's left or more printing?
repeat until we're the Weinmar Republic, and you need a wheelbarrow of money to by a loaf of bread, if you can find one.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:53:57pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
Where are you?
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:06pm |
re: #390 Quad Mocha Matti
Christ, I'm getting tired! I just up dinged for Queen Christine!
Okay, now I'm neutral. Charles, please sir, may I have another (down ding)?
What race is this?
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:10pm |
re: #381 doppelganglander Yaaar, mate are you going to make it to the meet on Sunday? Obviously we will have lots to talk about.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:15pm |
Gracus:
"Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom, and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the Senate. It's the sand of the Coliseum. He'll bring them death... and they will love him for it."
- (Gladiator, 2000)
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:16pm |
re: #381 doppelganglander
I'm not aligning with anyone until I find someone or some group that I feel truly represents my views. I'm a Christian, but I am utterly repulsed by the anti-Mormon sentiment that was revealed in some quarters. I'm not a big fan of the Christian socialists that dominate most of the mainline churches, either. Therefore I've been without a church for a while and probably will remain unaffiliated. Soon I'll find out whether I have a political party or not.
Well said.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:26pm |
re: #375 SagamoreGal
Could Sarah make it to DC after all?
What is Alaska's policy about replacing a Senator? If Stevens wins (which looks very possible right now) and he's carted off to jail can Sarah name herself as his replacement?
She's better off staying out of that swamp. Finish her term, get re-elected, and then see what happens.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:26pm |
Look at the bright side, now it's totally on their dime.
/sure, they might still try to "blame Bush" but that still doesn't excuse them from having to do something about whatever they're bitching about, which they'll no longer be bitching about because it'll be on their dime
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:30pm |
re: #332 Steve
The President cannot function without advisers or without advice, written or oral. But just as soon as he is required to show what kind of advice he has had, who said what to him, or what kind of records he has, the advice he receives will be worthless.
Harry S. Truman
Why didn't you give this to Mccain. He should have been saying this every day.
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:49pm |
re: #385 itellu3times
I would never have believed that, less than ten years after 9/11, the American public would consider for a moment, a guy named Barack Hussein Obama for president, no matter what his qualities. That this guy *has* no qualities other than a big mouth, makes it that much worse.
The condescending, patronizing, maudlin coverage by the MSM tonight is beyond belief, it's like they just got a new puppy. That this puppy is about to be POTUS, does not seem to have penetrated their carefully coiffed heads.
These are the 'useless idiots' often described in the Soviet socialism transformational techniques. My main worry is not even Obama.
Its the hellfire dictator that will come after him, guaranteed.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:54:54pm |
re: #359 cowwoc
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you guys should "sleep on it". Yes, many of us didn't want Obama to win, but win he did and in a very big way. Both McCain and Obama's closing speeches were gracious, for which we can be thankful.
Let's give Obama a chance. We owe him a reasonable grace period to try to implement his vision before jumping to conclusions. We owe that much to anyone who wins by such a large margin.
If he makes unreasonable mistakes I'll be the first to jump all over this, but for now I think we owe it to ourselves and the rest of the country to digest the results and focus on restoring unity.
There is no greater threat to the USA and the Western World than infighting, especially at a time like this. Let's make the best of this situation.
Suppose grandpa had cancer, and he chose to listen to a doctor who proscribed leeches to cure the cancer? Could you say that we honestly owe the doctor with the leeches a grace period? Besides what are we going to do except organize ourselves and exercise our free speech. Who care?
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:01pm |
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:15pm |
re: #326 Clubsec
And I wonder what the next episode of 9/11 will be like?
Good bye NYC is a good possibility, biological.
Al Queda finishes what it started.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:23pm |
re: #383 faraway
Please. He's not cutting taxes. He is giving permanent, recurring payments to people that don't work. These are tax REFUNDS to people that don't work. They knew it, and he knew it. As Malcolm X said, we've been "hoodwinked". He bought the election with our money.
I didn't say anything about what Obama WOULD do, I talked about how he got elected. In order to get elected, he had to run on a very conservative platform. That means that the heart of the country is still conservative, even if its leaders lie to it.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:23pm |
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:28pm |
re: #387 BakaRanger
There were several of her sign down here is SW WA that said 'Chris Gregoire.' On of my friends thought that it sounded like she was trying to be a man.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:32pm |
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:39pm |
re: #396 cliffster
Al Franken is proof that there are over 1 million people in Minnesota who are complete idiots.
well, they *do* live in Minnesota...
(what sane person would?)
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:56pm |
re: #389 arizona9
They and their kind will not have to race-bait: they can be the new thought police! "You are not sufficiently non-racist! To the re-education camp!"
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:06pm |
re: #389 arizona9
There is one real silver lining...as we were discussing in the lounge...professional race baiters like J Jackson and Rev. Al are officially out of business.
No, their shakedown shenanigans will get backed up by Federal Law instead. It's the salad days for the hate-whitey crowd. Don't delude yourself into thinking they won't be well taken care of.
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:06pm |
re: #297 Tigger2005
Tigger, every word you've just put down here is exactly what is in my heavy, heavy heart tonight. I am not just disheartened, I am terrified, coming from the generation that heard the words Nikita Kruschev uttered a half-century ago [paraphrased]: we will not defeat you with armies and guns; we will destroy you from within.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:13pm |
re: #408 Buster Bunny
These are the 'useless idiots' often described in the Soviet socialism transformational techniques. My main worry is not even Obama.
Its the hellfire dictator that will come after him, guaranteed.
i'll be dead by then...
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:24pm |
I've been to Minnesota, I have relatives in Minniesota and they are idiots!
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:40pm |
re: #363 BakaRanger
45% of vote counted
Christine Gregoire*(D)
699,273 votes
52% of voteDino Rossi (R)
650,793 votes
48% of vote
/hey, at least she won't have to repeatedly scrounge in the shadows for votes
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:41pm |
re: #378 rabidsquirrel
Welcome aboard! Hatchlings buy the first round. Or, in this case, the tenth round.
Or not. Thought Charles had opened up registration again. Didn't bother to click on the football. Must be time for bed.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:46pm |
I'm looking forward to the establishment of the Heinlein system.
If I live long enough.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:50pm |
re: #414 Steve
There were several of her sign down here is SW WA that said 'Chris Gregoire.' On of my friends thought that it sounded like she was trying to be a man.
LOL! SW WA, Vancouver area?
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:05pm |
re: #405 faraway
Why didn't you give this to Mccain. He should have been saying this every day.
I wish that McCain had said a lot of things and changed some of what he said. But That now is ancient history.
'O' is no the POTUS:(
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:08pm |
Coleman is an amnesty idiot,probably a pretty decent guy and Senator. But to have that horses patoot- Franken in the Senate, with all that baggage, a gaffe-machine like biden-- would be better for the GOP in the longrun.
/every newsday would be a train-wreck.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:29pm |
re: #400 LoFlyer
Yaaar, mate are you going to make it to the meet on Sunday? Obviously we will have lots to talk about.
Yep. Lucius also plans to attend.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:36pm |
re: #46 lizard by the bay
The election of the most dangerous, Socialist, inexperienced, immature, egotistical America-hating President... is the final legacy of George W. Bush. Ding me down if you want, but you know it's true.
I don't "know it's true". Let me know when we can quit blaming President Bush for every damned thing under the sun, okay? The media is as much to blame for this failure of an informed electorate as anything.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:37pm |
re: #414 Steve
It makes her look younger. I guess. Kinds hip now and wow.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:38pm |
re: #422 nigella
I've been to Minnesota, I have relatives in Minniesota and they are idiots!
As a resident of Minnesota I have to agree with you.
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joekowalski247 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:40pm |
re: #51 faraway
Maybe we can stop dividing like minded conservative groups.
that will only happen when we stop bickering about what God looks like.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:44pm |
re: #416 redc1c4
well, they *do* live in Minnesota...
(what sane person would?)
There is a big-ass mall in Minnesota. Its cool. It wouldn't make me move to Minnesota, but it's way cool.
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JacksonTn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:51pm |
Please people take care of yourselves ...stop charging on your credit cards ... please stop being owned by "the man" ... don't live beyond your means ... take care of yourselves ... you don't need all the material things ... I can afford so much more but I refuse to be "owned" by the man .. stop ... they have you by the interest rate you pay ...simple is so more more rich ...
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:53pm |
re: #389 arizona9
There is one real silver lining...as we were discussing in the lounge...professional race baiters like J Jackson and Rev. Al are officially out of business.
And replaced by the big Zero & his minions
Coleman up over 17 thousand
Keep praying!
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:58:00pm |
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:58:09pm |
on the 1,000,000 votes for Franken:
why do you think it is pronounced
Minn-eh-so-duh
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:58:12pm |
re: #396 cliffster
Al Franken is proof that there are over 1 million people in Minnesota who are complete idiots.
Way, WAY more than that. Plenty in my family.
I'll tell you though. I'm making a list of whoever in my wacko lib family gloats at me over zer0. When they lose their jobs, they'll get no help from me. Fuck 'em. Let them go on unemployment and eat ramen noodles.
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NCusTranshumanist Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:58:26pm |
Hey, did you hear that? It sounded like the DOW bottoming out. Yeah, I know the market's not open yet, but it's going to crash so hard the sound reverberated back through time!
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:58:42pm |
re: #425 The Other Les
Did you say Heineken system?
*drink*
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:58:52pm |
re: #396 cliffster
Al Franken is proof that there are over 1 million people in Minnesota who are complete idiots.
But I understand all their children are above average!
Let's hope the drunk luggage handler from Trading Places doesn't pull this off.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:08pm |
re: #341 RTLM
I think its more like 1976, all things considered.
Really? China/Taiwan, India/Paki, Israel/Iran, Cuba nukes.
The world is a powder keg.
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tackle Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:16pm |
re: #378 rabidsquirrel
Well, maybe I'm off the hook for buying a round as I've been "in" for a few months now, but it's been a bugger getting logged in tonight.
But thanks for the welcome!
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:19pm |
Norm Coleman up by 2,000 with 89% in...just minutes ago, he was up by 17,000 with 90% in. Explain that?
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:25pm |
re: #419 Lizard by the Bay
I disagree. They are done. Fearmongering and guiltmongering was their stock and trade. And, that's done. Oh, they may try it, I guess. But, nobody will be buying it. Now now. It's done.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:29pm |
re: #394 esch
Arrange your finances for the absolute least possible tax obligation. Develop 1 or 2 backup plans for if (when) the economy goes south, preferably in essential basic trades. Healthcare, construction, etc.
My rule of hope for the best, prepare for the worst is now more appropriate than ever. 'Best' is now off the table.
Invest in guns, ammo, and rent a backhoe for the weekend to dig up the yard and put in a lizard lounge / fallout shelter, like Charles has. Start a hamster farm and train the little fuzzballs to work the generators and manage the environmental controls.
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slokat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:32pm |
I think I need a new bumper sticker...
something like -
O no! -or- Uh O!
...too subtle?
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Dahveed Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:39pm |
I think Michelle Malkin says this very, very well:
"There is no time to lick wounds, point fingers, and wallow in post-election mud.
I’m getting a lot of moan-y, sad-face 'What do we do now, Michelle?' e-mails.
What do we do now? We do what we’ve always done.
We stand up for our principles, as we always have — through Democrat administrations and Republican administrations, in bear markets or bull markets, in peacetime and wartime.
We stay positive and focused.
We keep the faith.
We do not apologize for our beliefs. We do not re-brand them, re-form them, or relinquish them. We defend them.
We pay respect to the office of the presidency. We count our blessings and recommit ourselves to our constitutional republic.
We gird our loins, to borrow a phrase from our Vice President-elect.
We lock and load our ideological ammunition.
We fight.
***
First assignment for fiscal conservatives in Washington:
1) Oppose the Democrats’ next stimulus boondoggle.
2) Oppose Obama’s windfall profits tax proposal.
3) Oppose new bailouts for states deep in debt.
4) Oppose new foreclosure prevention measures that will simply provide perverse incentives for borrowers to walk away and delay a needed market correction.
5) No more federal loan guarantees for corporations given that Washington has no idea whether the AIG bailout is 'working.'"
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I Need A Bigger Gun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:58pm |
Well, at least I can go around for the next four years and say "Hey, I didn't vote for him!" And since it's after midnight here on the East Coast, and it is now my birthday (and the election didn't go exactly the way I wanted it to), I think I'll have a few shots of rum to help me go to sleep.
Good night, fellow Lizards.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:00pm |
re: #431 capitalist piglet
I don't "know it's true". Let me know when we can quit blaming President Bush for every damned thing under the sun, okay? The media is as much to blame for this failure of an informed electorate as anything.
Bush deserves a large measure of attribution for this
he and he alone stood there for 8 years taking hit after hit
lie after lie
insult after insult
forged document expose
and never raised a complaint
why do you think he is called
the 43rd Pussident of the United States
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Steffan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:04pm |
re: #205 newsjunkie_ky
I;m thinking that we really don;t have the luxury of kicking back on this.
There's nothing to blame on Bush down here'''
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:08pm |
Suppose grandpa had cancer, and he chose to listen to a doctor who proscribed leeches to cure the cancer? Could you say that we honestly owe the doctor with the leeches a grace period? Besides what are we going to do except organize ourselves and exercise our free speech.
-Distant Thunder
I'd favor sending ol doc to Cuba.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:12pm |
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:13pm |
It makes her look younger. I guess. Kinds hip now male and wow.
fixed that for you.)
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:28pm |
re: #438 Steve
Yes.
Been up for about ten years, left SoCal for greener pastures. I love the fact that all things political come from Portland and Seattle seems like a different country.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:40pm |
re: #356 arizona9
Gack! Coleman up by 9,000?!? I keep reading conflicting reports - he was up more than that when, according to the Official Minn. Election Site 100% of counties and 100% of precincts had reported. So did Coleman win or not?!
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RTLM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:44pm |
BTW - what the hell was up with that dress Michelle Obama had on at the victory speech?
(macabre)
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:00:59pm |
Coleman up 3000 at 90% per CNN website - what is the hold-up , count damn it, count !
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:07pm |
re: #440 esch
Way, WAY more than that. Plenty in my family.
I'll tell you though. I'm making a list of whoever in my wacko lib family gloats at me over zer0. When they lose their jobs, they'll get no help from me. Fuck 'em. Let them go on unemployment and eat ramen noodles.
I've eaten ramen noodles as my main source of nutrition. Along with peanut butter sandwiches. There's nothing wrong with it, you do what you gotta do to get ahead.
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:13pm |
Ah well .. i'm no longer worried about all this mayhem.
Heck I have a guy in Ghana who says he's definitely NOT Nigerian and that he's got 60 million of gold bullion in a safety deposit box in Ojubewa and all he needs from me is 3000 bucks and i get 30%
Thats 20 million dollars, which after Obama has claimed his portion I should be able to get a couple of softdrinks and a candy bar with.
Dammit .. forget the Nigerian .. I'm going out and getting a Coke and a Reece Bar while the going is still good
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:25pm |
re: #446 SaneInMN
Norm Coleman up by 2,000 with 89% in...just minutes ago, he was up by 17,000 with 90% in. Explain that?
Must be the Iron Range.
There's a major Marxist infestation up there.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:30pm |
375- yes The gov can name herself as the replacement.
But maybe it is better to have her as a Gov. We need more Govs in the Cons movement and with conservative credentials. A much bettter bench. Governors make better Presidents because the buck truly stops with them. tehy know how to run things.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:32pm |
'For I have not yet begun to fight!'
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:32pm |
re: #449 slokat
I think I need a new bumper sticker...
something like -
O no! -or- Uh O!
...too subtle?
How about just "O"
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itellu3times Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:34pm |
re: #359 cowwoc
Yeah that all sounds great until he puts Hillary on the supreme court, pulls all US troops out of Iraq in six months, and Iran nukes Tel Aviv. Meanwhile, US inflation hits 50% next year, thanks to the financial bailout slipping out of control. Or maybe 500%. The auto industry is nationalized. Taxes are raised 50% on everyone making more than $50k, plus the "voluntary contributions for the emergency" you are encouraged to make, earning you a unicorn for your front door, without which your front door tends to be set on fire. Rush Limbaugh is sent to Club Gitmo, and Fidel Castro's Greatest Hits are broadcast every morning in his place.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:35pm |
re: #402 Dotcoman
Well said.
We saw an anti-8 ad so incredibly vile we gasped. It showed two Mormon missionaries, violently breaking into a home like the gestapo, and demanding the lesbian couples marriage certificate, then laughing maniacally while they ripped it up.
Why is it that we never see out of control right-wingers in public - but plenty out of control left-wingers in real life?
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Charles the Hammer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:39pm |
As Father Seraphim Rose and Tage Lindbom wrote long ago, this was inevitable. Now, it is only a matter of time. I don't think there will be one specifically generated international crisis, there will be at least two, probably 3, maybe four. (Depends on how many iterations of Iran acting out you look at - against Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel. Add in Russia's immanent invasion of Ukraine and whatever Venezuela does, and I think we get 3).
The ignorance, historical and otherwise, of our electorate, just shows you that there is no compromise with the revolution. The arrogance of egocentricism was going to lead us this way. Unfortunately, we were founded on that very principle.
Though I often disagreed, I cannot say that I found a better group of people to read over the last year and a half or so. I thank you all. But, I think, I need to buy some guns, supplies, and prepare to drop off the grid. I wish you all the best of luck, love, and blessings that God may grant and that the Saints may pray for. Pray that the Theotokos may pray for you all!
the sinner,
Charles
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:40pm |
re: #396 cliffster
Al Franken is proof that there are over 1 million people in Minnesota who are complete idiots.
They elected Jesse "The Body" Ventura when I was going to school there. That shoots your 1 million guesstimate all to hell.
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intifan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:41pm |
re: #51 faraway
Maybe we can stop dividing like minded conservative groups.
The problem is conservatives all have opinions, and thoughts about what they believe is right, whereas liberals just do what the box-with-the-moving-pictures tells them to do.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:04pm |
Does anyone from WA State (native or long term resident) and who is familliar with the Lewis County/Centralia/Chehalis area know if the farm with the locally infamous Pro-Conservative billboard is still in existence? We'd always look for the latest missive on our trips down I-5 to visit relatives in Centralia. There's no way in hell you could get away with that in King County (Seattle Metro area).
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:04pm |
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DeathtotheSwiss Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:11pm |
You know what though? They couldn't beat Bush. Never got a chance to do it either. All the money George Soros spent, all the conniving (not counting this election) of the media to elect Gore then Kerry and they never beat W.
KOS kids couldn't defeat George. KOS kids couldn't beat Rove.
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RTLM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:17pm |
re: #444 faraway
Really? China/Taiwan, India/Paki, Israel/Iran, Cuba nukes.
The world is a powder keg.
Was then too. eg: Soviet Union
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:24pm |
re: #447 arizona9
I disagree. They are done. Fearmongering and guiltmongering was their stock and trade. And, that's done. Oh, they may try it, I guess. But, nobody will be buying it. Now now. It's done.
What part of "the socialist grievance-mongering progressive left is in charge of everything now" don't you understand?
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:25pm |
re: #457 Steve
Thank you. It's the Heineken talking.
More gunfire, from different directions now. The helicopters seem to be over downtown and Seattle Center.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:28pm |
re: #452 I Need A Bigger Gun
Well, at least I can go around for the next four years and say "Hey, I didn't vote for him!" And since it's after midnight here on the East Coast, and it is now my birthday (and the election didn't go exactly the way I wanted it to), I think I'll have a few shots of rum to help me go to sleep.
Good night, fellow Lizards.
Happy birthday! I'm sorry it's not off to a better start.
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imploder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:30pm |
Here's something else to think about. Life is what happens when you're making other plans. In other words, regardless of who populates the halls of power, life goes on. Our system of government is what it is, we accept it for better or worse.
Our individual lives continue regardless, to fret too much over the result of our cyclical system of government is to fret too much. Yes, we need to be sure our voices are heard and we need to advocate for our beliefs and values, but when the cost of that becomes too high then it is pernicious.
I will always be a staunch individualist and conservative. I'm not happy with the choice the country has made, but I'm not going to waste years pining over it. I'm also not going to wish ill for the nation like some on the other side did in order for their desires to become reality.
We're going to survive this and we'll come back. I hope the price is not too high, but it is our system of government. He made some lofty promises all while hiding some of his core beliefs. Karma is a bitch, so he's got some thinking to do. As it stands, the country remains deeply divided.
Good luck my friends and may God bless our country and keep her.
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:32pm |
re: #456 The Other Les
I wish.
Speaking of RAH. I can hear his bemused chuckle.
The 'Crazy Years' have metastasized. Hold on to your ass.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:34pm |
re: #431 capitalist piglet
I don't "know it's true". Let me know when we can quit blaming President Bush for every damned thing under the sun, okay? The media is as much to blame for this failure of an informed electorate as anything.
The media is totally to blame. Most people suckle it like their mother's breast as the only source for their news.
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itellu3times Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:02:51pm |
re: #441 NCusTranshumanist
Right now the Dow futures say it opens green tomorrow.
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joekowalski247 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:03:09pm |
re: #408 Buster Bunny
These are the 'useless idiots' often described in the Soviet socialism transformational techniques. My main worry is not even Obama.
Its the hellfire dictator that will come after him, guaranteed.
I suggest everyone catch up on some of this literature. no doubt alot of the policies made in the next 4 years will be right out of "Prairie Fire" at least we'll have some advantage predicting Obama's next move.?
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:03:13pm |
re: #458 BakaRanger
Been up for about ten years, left SoCal for greener pastures. I love the fact that all things political come from Portland and Seattle seems like a different country.
Moved here when I was twelve and have now spent 47 years. The prettiest part of the country.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:03:18pm |
re: #461 deanayer
They need hamsters. Please replay "Hamster of Doom."
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:03:36pm |
re: #409 DistantThunder
Suppose grandpa had cancer, and he chose to listen to a doctor who proscribed leeches to cure the cancer? Could you say that we honestly owe the doctor with the leeches a grace period? Besides what are we going to do except organize ourselves and exercise our free speech. Who care?
Excellent point mate, now here is another point! Suppose your beloved grandpa had been informed by the media that leeches were the only available cure whilst suppressing public information on known successful treatments such as chemo, radiation or surgery? What would be your reaction to that? That is exactly what happened here. Obama would not have been elected 25 years ago I guarantee! Our Republic and Democratic ideals have been subverted by complete idiots known as journalists!
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:03:58pm |
re: #436 JacksonTn
Please people take care of yourselves ...stop charging on your credit cards ... please stop being owned by "the man" ... don't live beyond your means ... take care of yourselves ... you don't need all the material things ... I can afford so much more but I refuse to be "owned" by the man .. stop ... they have you by the interest rate you pay ...simple is so more more rich ...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
nonsense. the benevolent government will make my mortgage, car, student loan and credit card payments from now on. after all, it only fair
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little blessing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:04:01pm |
Reading the comments posted above, I can empathize with most of what was said. The phrase "prepare for the worst and hope for the best" has stuck with me throughout this election.
I urge all of my fellow citizens, Please don't let your disappiontment blind you. There is so much good that has been done in the last 6 months and just because we haven't triumphed doesn't mean we haven't achieved.
{All lizards and fellow Americans}
Since when has the "Real American" ever given up? Since we started out as Colonies there were those who wanted to weep and moan and those who acted. I know many of us feel that there is no more "fight" left within us but we must recover.
Pick yourselves up, dust off the dirt. We all admire John McCain and those that serve for their bravery, now its time to show them ours.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:04:05pm |
is mandy still around?find it hard to believe that she wouldn't be emptying her spleen on a night like tonite.(sharmuta,i see alot of new names tonite where are alot of the old time lizards?was their some kind of mass banning i missed?)
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:04:24pm |
Well, Good Night everybody and welcome to the Loyal Opposition.
God Bless the United States of America!
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:04:44pm |
re: #403 doppelganglander
She's better off staying out of that swamp. Finish her term, get re-elected, and then see what happens.
If she did, it would not be any different that what Obama did. She could start running after what 145-150 days of being in the Senate. Seems like that is all it takes nowadays to get elected as POTUS.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:04:58pm |
Three years ago we had to settle my Aunts estate in Minnesota.Her neighbors were friendly but really ditzy. We got this big dumpster to throw away crap, and every night we would find them dumpster diving. They all really hated the " Immigrant Ethiopians but also hated Bush for his immigrant stand. Really bizzare.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:07pm |
re: #427 BakaRanger
LOL! SW WA, Vancouver area?
I used to live there once. Right behind the mall. Horizon Air, the most well armed airline in North America. Ak's and SKS's by the Pallet.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:11pm |
re: #482 ErislDysnomia
The media is totally to blame. Most people suckle it like their mother's breast as the only source for their news.
Reagan had a way to deal with that. He went to the American people directly. He stuck his finger in the eye of the media. And much to the media's consternation, the people just liked Reagan more than they liked the attack dogs in the press.
Bush hid.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:21pm |
re: #478 redmirabai
Hope it is just the news media. I have several friends that live in the area or just north of Seattle.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:29pm |
Start a hamster farm and train the little fuzzballs to work the generators and manage the environmental controls.
-DotcoMan
ROFLMAO!
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:31pm |
re: #485 Steve
Moved here when I was twelve and have now spent 47 years. The prettiest part of the country.
I agree. I hope it doesn't change too much.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:34pm |
re: #469 DistantThunder
We saw an anti-8 ad so incredibly vile we gasped. It showed two Mormon missionaries, violently breaking into a home like the gestapo, and demanding the lesbian couples marriage certificate, then laughing maniacally while they ripped it up.
Why is it that we never see out of control right-wingers in public - but plenty out of control left-wingers in real life?
Now if only they topped it off by having one of the missionaries say to the couple, "And you both have to marry me now..."
/They are slacking in the attacks...geesh.
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:41pm |
re: #396 cliffster
Al Franken is proof that there are over 1 million people in Minnesota who are complete idiots.
Judging by the Presidential election results, the entire county's infested.
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I Need A Bigger Gun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:48pm |
re: #441 NCusTranshumanist
Hey, did you hear that? It sounded like the DOW bottoming out. Yeah, I know the market's not open yet, but it's going to crash so hard the sound reverberated back through time!
One more comment before the rum starts to take affect: a few days ago I did predict in one of my posts that if little O won, the Dow would drop at least 1000 points the next day. That's one prediction that I hope doesn't come true.
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:53pm |
I'm getting it from the Minn. Sec. of state and according to that, Coleman is up 16, 868.
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:06:19pm |
re: #430 doppelganglander
Yep. Lucius also plans to attend.
I think we could have as many as six or seven. One is driving up from JAX! Bring your husband, you can tell him you need him to fight off unwanted attention by pirates!
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:06:20pm |
re: #377 Dotcoman
I dislike Obama intensley because of the positions he espouses and because - even though he is now the President-Elect, he still doesn't RESPECT AMERICA.
But "Kind of makes one wonder, how long till Obama replaces the Secret Service with Farrakan's Nation of Islam goons." Is just dumb. the USSS is the finest in the world at protection - and Obama ISN'T stupid, the NOI goons won't get anywhere near to protecting him.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:06:47pm |
Um, you really want to give Obama a chance to "implement his vision"? Have you been paying attention? Merely allowing him to implement a tenth of his "vision" would be a disaster.
re: #359 cowwoc
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you guys should "sleep on it". Yes, many of us didn't want Obama to win, but win he did and in a very big way. Both McCain and Obama's closing speeches were gracious, for which we can be thankful.
Let's give Obama a chance. We owe him a reasonable grace period to try to implement his vision before jumping to conclusions. We owe that much to anyone who wins by such a large margin.
If he makes unreasonable mistakes I'll be the first to jump all over this, but for now I think we owe it to ourselves and the rest of the country to digest the results and focus on restoring unity.
There is no greater threat to the USA and the Western World than infighting, especially at a time like this. Let's make the best of this situation.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:06:52pm |
re: #496 Dotcoman
I used to live there once. Right behind the mall. Horizon Air, the most well armed airline in North America. Ak's and SKS's by the Pallet.
All that firepower and a microbrew as well.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:06:53pm |
re: #319 CyanSnowHawk
Are you here in CA? Did you see the fire brought to bear against Arnold's policies and initiatives? He didn't start giving ground until after that humiliating defeat. CA government is broken, and it has been a long time coming. Arnold is just the latest steward of this mess. I am so hoping that Prop 11 passes and we have a chance to fix it.
at this point i doubt even that will help: someone will find a way to game the new method, just like they did the old. amybe 1 term term limits: you get in office and you have one pass and then you're done: no time to build an empire and no reason to collect $ for next time. yeah, no one would know how the system allegedly w*rks, but since it doesn't w*rk anyway, who cares?
some asshat at the local neighborhood council was bemoaning the funding shortfall, and when i suggested that maybe we could just spend less i was told that "simplistic thinking" wouldn't solve our problems, so it's obvious the problem runs deep.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:06:56pm |
So people chose to not out vote their own T.V.'s this year. Interesting.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:07:00pm |
re: #496 Dotcoman
I used to live there once. Right behind the mall. Horizon Air, the most well armed airline in North America. Ak's and SKS's by the Pallet.
Sorry, I must be tired. I do not understand you statement 'Horizon Air, the most well armed airline in North America. Ak's and SKS's by the Pallet.'
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:07:35pm |
Here's what really worries me...
Under Delaware election law, Biden was allowed to run for two offices at the same time — re-election to his Senate seat and VP of the United States. He has just won both!
As Vice President, he is the President of the Senate, and the "tie-breaker" there when needed.
Here's the problem: As sitting senator and sitting VP, does that mean he'll be able to vote twice on occasion?
? ? ?
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:07:43pm |
re: #494 musicman
If she did, it would not be any different that what Obama did. She could start running after what 145-150 days of being in the Senate. Seems like that is all it takes nowadays to get elected as POTUS.
Ha. It's a real handicap having integrity and standards, but I think she'll muddle through just fine. I think it remains to be seen if her reputation is damaged by her association with McCain.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:07:58pm |
By the way it is proof of the sorry state we are in that a buffoon like Franken could even be in the running for dog catcher!
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:08:11pm |
re: #445 tackle
Well, maybe I'm off the hook for buying a round as I've been "in" for a few months now, but it's been a bugger getting logged in tonight.
But thanks for the welcome!
Yeah, I realized my mistake after I went back and clicked your football (and considered that you may have been referring to difficulty logging in). But letter late than never!
And if you want, you can still buy a round...
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:08:31pm |
re: #461 deanayer
GACK - as I posted just two damn comments above yours "I keep reading conflicting reports - he was up more than that when, according to the Official Minn. Election Site 100% of counties and 100% of precincts had reported. So did Coleman win or not?!"
So how can he be at 92% when the offical site say 100% of counties and 100% of precincts have reproted!?
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:08:43pm |
So, how much fun is it going to be after the Fairness Doctrine is passed, with the internet included in it, and we get to flood the FCC with reports of unfairness at DailyKos?
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:08:46pm |
re: #426 Iron Fist
I don't think that we should accomodate the Obama Regiem in any way. I think the first thing on our plate is blocking bad judges coming out of the Senate by advise and consent.
No more Ginsbergs.
like we're going to be able to block anything coming out of the Senate: those fools will want to be "bipartisan" instead of Republicans. that's how we got here.
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big L Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:08:47pm |
Oh boy we have got to get a base in D.C. With vd cameras. That Michelle--the terror is another one with logorrhea.
that is another train-wreck. she has got to be fimed...
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BlueCanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:02pm |
Busy, busy, busy. Here we go the two images with my personal comment.
/:p blog pimping again I know.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:07pm |
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:11pm |
re: #513 LeePro
He a Democrat. Of course he will.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:17pm |
Jeez, almost 10,000 comments, today. There's way to much to even try to read.
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hazzyday Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:43pm |
Congratulations to Sen Obama. I will step back and and wait and see how he does. I did have my hope for McCain/Palin. Mark it down that they both set a gracious exit.
I blame the school system for producing so many pc green kids. Or the poor Republican base turnout. The Republican party is going to need to re think it's membership. I don't think conservative is going to win until better character and personality come along when the public tires of the dems.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:53pm |
re: #513 LeePro
Here's what really worries me...
Under Delaware election law, Biden was allowed to run for two offices at the same time — re-election to his Senate seat and VP of the United States. He has just won both!
As Vice President, he is the President of the Senate, and the "tie-breaker" there when needed.
Here's the problem: As sitting senator and sitting VP, does that mean he'll be able to vote twice on occasion?
? ? ?
He can't hold both offices. He'll resign his Senate seat and the governor of Delaware will appoint his successor. They may have to have a special election for a permanent replacement.
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tackle Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:10:14pm |
Alrighty then. This one's on me!
You know what some say: "Win or lose, hit the booze."
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Sprite Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:10:20pm |
I promise you this:
I'll honor Obama as often as he honors the flag - with a pin or otherwise - and puts his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. That much and no more.
And that is precious little.
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:10:35pm |
Anybody notice that throughout the vote-counting process — even after it was all over! — there were no presidential vote tallies for Alabama, Alaska, or Hawaii?
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:07pm |
re: #524 arizona9
91% precincts reporting, Coleman up 12,981.
/that's going to be tough to beat, the metro area has been counted
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:20pm |
Norm up by less than 2,000 votes with 92% in.
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:38pm |
coleman ahead by only 136 right now with 91% I think he needs to win by a few thousand to avoid a recount. If Al Franken becomes a Senator I will use his example to begin performing unlicensed surgeries in my home for cash.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:39pm |
All right. One last quote from
'Never scratch a tiger with a short stick.'
The President hears a hundred voices telling him that he is the greatest man in the world. He must listen carefully indeed to hear the one voice that tells him he is not.
Harry S Truman
Good night all you Lizards. The world will continue despite what just happen.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:40pm |
re: #416 redc1c4
well, they *do* live in Minnesota...
(what sane person would?)
Not a Garrison Keillor fan, evidently.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:57pm |
re: #441 NCusTranshumanist
Hey, did you hear that? It sounded like the DOW bottoming out. Yeah, I know the market's not open yet, but it's going to crash so hard the sound reverberated back through time!
One more comment before the rum starts to take affect: a few days ago I did predict in one of my posts that if little O won, the Dow would drop at least 1000 points the next day. That's one prediction that I hope doesn't come true.
-I Need A Bigger Gun
I'm counting on the smart money already having discounted the DOW.
I'm waiting on the sucker rally to bail. Hopefully, I'm not the sucker in this deal.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:03pm |
The short- and long-term implications of this Obama victory are scary. It's not just the things Obama might do. It's what it says about us as a nation. Our enemies are paying attention and making plans accordingly.
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vegasjew Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:19pm |
well the dems are +5 in the senate
6 if Coleman or Brown lose
7 if they both lose
they wont get 60
Curious that as soon as the election was
decided Israel blasted those throatcutters
in Gaza,I expect them to be very aggressive
in setting up as much long term security as
they can,during this transition period.
All these gay marriage attempts were sent back to the trash bin ,proving we are a center right nation.
We had corruption ,scandal wars not won quickly enough,and a struggling economy. Then we had
an opponent that had a 16 million vote lead with
African Americans and a tanking media.That spells defeat.
In all ,my calls and speaking to young people,I believe surrendering our Universities to Bill AYers and Noam Chomsky,have finally after 4 decades
have done us in. Fighting for the soul of Americas Youth is a good place to start fighting.
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:44pm |
despair has settled over me. my main worry this time around was the Supreme Court and the war on terror. both of which are fucked now. I will now retire to the comforts of strong drink and bid you all a fond farewell
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tommoon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:50pm |
I'm headed for Saigon. Got enought saved. Maybe buy a little bar on Hy Bra Trung. I got my VA disability. DOD retirement. At least I won't have to look at Obama's face everyday for the next four years. If I stay off Nguyen Hue I won't even have to look at Ho Chi Minh for anytime. My country sucks. 55,000 dead is not good enough for these communist loving assholes.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:56pm |
re: #469 DistantThunder
That doesn't sound like any Mormon missionaries I ever met, or regular every day run of the mill Mormons either.
Why would they have to pick on Mormons or other Christian faiths, when the Rev Phelps and his sister/ daughter/wife and their group of nutjobs are right around the corner and actually would be willing to do something stupid like that?
You know the crew, the bunch that travels to Military Funerals to scream God hates fags and worse.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:59pm |
re: #537 Freedom Fan
re: #441 NCusTranshumanist
Hey, did you hear that? It sounded like the DOW bottoming out. Yeah, I know the market's not open yet, but it's going to crash so hard the sound reverberated back through time!
One more comment before the rum starts to take affect: a few days ago I did predict in one of my posts that if little O won, the Dow would drop at least 1000 points the next day. That's one prediction that I hope doesn't come true.
-I Need A Bigger GunI'm counting on the smart money already having discounted the DOW.
I'm waiting on the sucker rally to bail. Hopefully, I'm not the sucker in this deal.
Time to shrug.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:00pm |
What to do, what to do... just got off work. Want to drink until I have to call in sick. Might as well call in sick. When I am layed off because of the economy, I won't be able to cash in the unused sick days. Time to pour a drink - as long as there are lizards here tonight to drink with.
I am just so completely in shock right now.
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wolfie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:03pm |
Any news on Norm Coleman yet?
Did Ralph Nader win California?
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:27pm |
re: #426 Iron Fist
I don't think that we should accomodate the Obama Regiem in any way. I think the first thing on our plate is blocking bad judges coming out of the Senate by advise and consent.
No more Ginsbergs.
I like the idea, but how would you propose blocking them? We do not have the numbers in Congress.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:27pm |
re: #504 I Need A Bigger Gun
One more comment before the rum starts to take affect: a few days ago I did predict in one of my posts that if little O won, the Dow would drop at least 1000 points the next day. That's one prediction that I hope doesn't come true.
i'm hoping you're right...
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:31pm |
Wow I'm so excited! Coleman may barely beat a tax evading, inexperienced socialist to retain a Senate seat. Jeezeee, What happened here?
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:35pm |
re: #498 Steve
It probably is the media: maybe they just want to be ready for any action. I don't have the TV on the local channels, so I can't tell you what's going on, or not. There's been no gunfire I can hear for the last few minutes.
But for you, I'll brave the networks. Cover me while I grab the remote.
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FortunateSon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:07pm |
I thought I was handling the outcome of this election pretty well, and my Finnish tendency towards stoical contemplation would carry the day...until I went out for a smoke and nearly inhaled the entire cigarette. I suppose I am a bit more riled up than I would like to admit.
Perhaps, when I am old enough and feel I have actually accomplished something, I will run for elected office. In that case, I hope I can count on the support of all of you Lizards. In a few terms, America will be ready for some change we can actually believe in. It is in our nature to be free; as long as that is the case, we will never be beyond redemption as a people or as a country.
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:07pm |
re: #533 SaneInMN
Norm up by less than 2,000 votes with 92% in.
Where are you getting that? I see 92 reporting and Coleman up 14,000.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:25pm |
re: #503 rabidsquirrel
Judging by the Presidential election results, the entire county's infested.
I know I already said good night but I think that, rather than being infested by leftists, most of the country allowed the MSM to whip them into a frenzy of desire for "Change".
Into this scene walks BO- someone with virtually no background, a "blank screen"onto which each person could project his or her dreams.
The result was, sadly, unavoidable.
Now good night for real...
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Sprite Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:08pm |
re: #535 Steve
Yeah. Until 2012.
The die is cast. "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."
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CharlieBravo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:29pm |
Having been taught that if I can't say something nice then refrain from saying anything... "In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve"
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:40pm |
re: #537 Freedom Fan
re: #441 NCusTranshumanist
Hey, did you hear that? It sounded like the DOW bottoming out. Yeah, I know the market's not open yet, but it's going to crash so hard the sound reverberated back through time!
One more comment before the rum starts to take affect: a few days ago I did predict in one of my posts that if little O won, the Dow would drop at least 1000 points the next day. That's one prediction that I hope doesn't come true.
-I Need A Bigger GunI'm counting on the smart money already having discounted the DOW.
I'm waiting on the sucker rally to bail. Hopefully, I'm not the sucker in this deal.
'Me next door neighbor reported a 47 percent jump in gun sales in October. I am going to take a close look at finances and probably order tomorrow. You don't want to know what it is but It will hurt you at 500 yards...There goes my ski trip for sure this year...
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:48pm |
re: #513 LeePro Uh, LEE - I'm pretty sure Biden MUST give up his Senate Seat.
Federal law - but I'm too damned tired and medicated to find it now, but I am sure that Biden CAN NOT BE BOTH VP AND A SITTING SENATOR AT THE SAME TIME!
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:49pm |
re: #519 gmsc
So, how much fun is it going to be after the Fairness Doctrine is passed, with the internet included in it, and we get to flood the FCC with reports of unfairness at DailyKos?
We're sorry, but your email has been classified as spam, and your ISP has been notified to close your account. Be advised you will be receiving a bill for the cost of processing your illegal communication.
Regards,
The FCC
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tackle Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:09pm |
re: #542 Dotcoman
That doesn't sound like any Mormon missionaries I ever met, or regular every day run of the mill Mormons either.
Why would they have to pick on Mormons or other Christian faiths, when the Rev Phelps and his sister/ daughter/wife and their group of nutjobs are right around the corner and actually would be willing to do something stupid like that?
You know the crew, the bunch that travels to Military Funerals to scream God hates fags and worse.
Because picking on Mormons is funny, hip and cool, don't ya know? Kindof like bashing Jews and parents who home school.
/
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:14pm |
re: #368 realwest
Hey Sharm - on the off chance you really haven't gone to bed yet!
I did all I am physically capable of to help McCain out; I phoned, e-mailed and talked face to face with as many people as I could.
What I'd like to know is WHERE WERE THE PUMAS?
And btw, as per your #9 above, Killgore is NOT the enemy - true; but he isn't any kind of ally, either.
RW, from what I read over at the Hillary Clinton Forum, they brought in at least 19% of Hillary's primary voters. That's about 4 million.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:17pm |
So, um, is Coleman winning by 300 or 12,000 with over 90% of the vote?
/Michael Barone was pretty much confident Norm would win
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pat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:19pm |
In many respects the country has gone mad. They have elected a Gracian Clown named Franken, an empty vessel that hated America for 20 years, but apparently loved it for 2, and a Congress that seemingly wants to transform America into lovely Mexico. Should be interesting. I blame Bush. and McCain they always saw conservatives as the enemy.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:34pm |
Drat! For you fellow Washingtonians, the G.D. Sound Transit Prop. #1 is streaking on towards victory. As much as I am a rail fan, I see no logic in this foolish, fraudulent scam and absolute boondoggle. Hey! Let's all go ride the S.L.U.T.! Well, erm, every time I'm downtown in Seattle, (ironically commuting by bus), why is it I have only seen that blasted streetcar in motion ONCE! And even then, I'm sure there were 5 or less passengers aboard. All Hail Greg Nickels'/Ron Sims'/Chris Gregoire's Folly!
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:53pm |
I feel fine. I think I already got my grief for the country out, starting with McCain's nomination.
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:58pm |
re: #538 Tigger2005
The short- and long-term implications of this Obama victory are scary. It's not just the things Obama might do. It's what it says about us as a nation. Our enemies are paying attention and making plans accordingly.
All of our long-term allies on tyranny's doorstep are fucked. Israel, Taiwan, SKor, need I continue?
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:11pm |
re: #547 redc1c4
i'm hoping you're right...
I, for one, will not be terribly unhappy if the Dow really tanks.
Like an alcoholic, the sooner the US hits bottom the sooner can start the recovery.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:17pm |
re: #38 big L
Oh yes there are Pumas and the silent majority, and great American voters out there. Zip. nothing happened. and all these "best wishes" from the blogs. it make sick
Maybe Obama's head won't contain his ego and explode on nationwide tv.
The PUMAs didn't roar, and Bradley had no effect.
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caligal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:35pm |
I am relatively new here. I see where the exclamation is a warning,what are the other icons for? the # count? the minus, plus and heart?
And, how I deal w/obama is always lower casing his name...cannot bring myself to give him enough respect (yet..?) for a capital letter...silly, but makes me feel I still have some personal power.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:52pm |
re: #549 redmirabai
Probably just a few nut cases (read democrat) having there stupid fun.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:53pm |
Norm Coleman (R) 1,103,900 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 1,100,385 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 399,102 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 12,591 0%
James Niemackl (C) 7,978 0%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 01:16 AM Central Standard Time
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:18pm |
re: #554 CharlieBravo
Having been taught that if I can't say something nice then refrain from saying anything... "In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve"
And they deserve to get it good and hard.
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jcw46 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:24pm |
re: #558 redc1c4
We're sorry, but your email has been classified as spam, and your ISP has been notified to close your account. Be advised you will be receiving a bill for the cost of processing your illegal communication.
Regards,
The FCC
That's not funny.
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Captkirk35 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:33pm |
92% of precincts: Franken down by 3,000 votes.. A Franken defeat will help soften the blow.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:35pm |
re: #557 realwest
Biden will probably get one of his kids named to replace him in the Senate.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:10pm |
re: #553 Sprite
Amen to that.
Good night.
Any LIzards that want to get together and have a brew in SW Washington, email me.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:15pm |
re: #256 redmirabai
Helicopters circling over Seattle. Sounds of gunfire now and then.
Time to get away from the windows and pour another big glass of wine. It's gonna be a long night.
Downtown? I'm not downtown, and I don't hear or see anything...so I'm guessing that's what you mean.
Did you hear about the tuba guy getting beaten to death down there? I actually knew that guy.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:31pm |
re: #533 SaneInMN
NOOO - I'm sick of this shit-
524 arizona9
11/04/08 11:09:11 pm reply quote 0
91% precincts reporting, Coleman up 12,981"
SO WHICH IS IT?!
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:47pm |
re: #574 Captkirk35
92% of precincts: Franken down by 3,000 votes.. A Franken defeat will help soften the blow.
Well, it'll help show we have a little bit of Franken-Sense.
/
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pat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:55pm |
re: #575 redmirabai
Let us hope it is his eldest daughter, she is easy on the eyes and likely can actually read.
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:20:04pm |
One thing that really should be hammered during the next four years is that the election process of voting has got to be fixed. I know it won't get much tread but every bit of this years election process has stunk to high heavens. This is something that needs to be voiced very loud!
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:20:16pm |
Did anyone find out if Ted Stevens won his re-electon to the US Senate tonight?!
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:20:43pm |
Norm Coleman (R) 1,108,653 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 1,105,333 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 400,539 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 12,686 0%
James Niemackl (C) 8,041 0%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 01:19 AM Central Standard Time
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:20:46pm |
Well, at least McCain hasn't been rewarded for McCain-Kennedy.
Ultimately, I mean...
*sigh*
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:20:57pm |
re: #548 nigella
Wow I'm so excited! Coleman may barely beat a tax evading, inexperienced socialist to retain a Senate seat. Jeezeee, What happened here?
/the ad campaigns have gone far beyond all limits of human decency
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:27pm |
re: #499 Freedom Fan
Start a hamster farm and train the little fuzzballs to work the generators and manage the environmental controls.
-DotcoManROFLMAO!
Gonna have to do something. We sure as hell aren't gonna be drilling off-shore now. ANWAR just went bye bye for good. Palin's Natural Gas Pipeline wasn't really on anyone's radar, but it is now, and payback is a Michelle Obama. And we just heard, "The One," His Divine Shadow of Marx, say he's gonna bankrupt the Coal industry.
All my electricity comes from Montana, North Dak, and WY. coal.
Those tree huggers think we are fracking up the land now, coal mining, just wait till they see how many square miles of solar panels and wind turbines it takes to light a city for a few hours.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:30pm |
re: #569 caligal
the pus is to give kudos or and upding to a post,the minus is to say "you suck!" the heart is to say i love you,or at least it should...
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:33pm |
re: #519 gmsc
So, how much fun is it going to be after the Fairness Doctrine is passed, with the internet included in it, and we get to flood the FCC with reports of unfairness at DailyKos?
I was wondering when someone was going to mention it. Everything he said to get elected means nothing now.
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Sprite Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:36pm |
re: #577 Steve
I'm in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, cookin' up a reunion next August.. I'll write, and my nic is blue for you and All Lizards.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:38pm |
re: #78 DistantThunder
hahahahahaha - wait until he disappoints them.
Even worse -- wait until he doesn't disappoint them at all.
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:04pm |
I cannot bear any more reasoned debate, I feel only unbridled rage.
Must go before I get myself banned.
Goodnight all
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:18pm |
So what's the latest on the presidential votes? How much did McCain lose by?
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mailmars Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:30pm |
As posted on Hot Air after some really childish comments.. Just thought you guys might want to see also since I did metion being a Lizard..:-)
Hell of a night... I am new posting here but have been a lurker for a while and a proud Lizard for many years. Now to put things a bit in perspective. Yea, I am a disappointed in the results and like that would be news:-) There is one thing that is more important than any election or the results. The country tonight has decided that it would change it's course in a not so mild manner. The democratic process has worked and guess what? There are no riots, there are no fires, there are no tanks in the streets. In many other countries that would not be the case and contrary to what many nut-roots would think, the Republicans and general conservatives take the process as what it is, pure AMERICAN. Our general philosophies have lost a election. I for one am not moving to France, I am still going to sleep tonight and go to work in the morning. What the nut-roots and congress needs to remember is 1991 and 1992. Jump hard to left and you jump out of your just elected position.
What John McCain did show us, was how to be a class act. Unlike the trash talk of the left and their candidates after the 2000 or 2004 elections. America again, has spoken and in a free election that the rest of world just dreams of being able to have, in a manner that significantly changes the course of its government. All of which brings me to the main point. The who and the philosophy is important but not close to the process, the freedom, the vote.
Everyone have a good evening and sleep well, I am.
Mark
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:33pm |
re: #566 esch
All of our long-term allies on tyranny's doorstep are fucked. Israel, Taiwan, SKor, need I continue?
People talk like we'll get through 4 years of Obama, like we can afford this stupid decision. I'm not sure we can. The next four years are SO critical, and again, I have no confidence in Obama to make a single right decision.
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pat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:43pm |
re: #583 realwest
I suppose someone should care to save the seat, but he deserves the same treatment that Jefferson got for the $100,000 cash bribe, $90G of which was found in his freezer...oh. Nothing happened?
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:48pm |
re: #537 Freedom Fan
Market tanks is my prediction. Countries depending on us (like Israel) will take matters into their own hands before January. Oil goes back up and things hurt worse.
Less people will make over $250K and suddenly the tax increase will hit lower than the 120K Richardson promised.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:50pm |
re: #582 musicman
One thing that really should be hammered during the next four years is that the election process of voting has got to be fixed. I know it won't get much tread but every bit of this years election process has stunk to high heavens. This is something that needs to be voiced very loud!
I think a good first step would be to target the Secretaries of State that were the most welcoming of fraud, starting with Jennifer Brunner of Ohio. Another good idea would be to draft model legislation that can be adopted on a state by state basis -- kind of like the Uniform Commercial Code. There's got to be an organization out there that can get on that.
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Tasty Beverage Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:51pm |
I am astonished at this outcome. My confidence in a McCain-Palin win was predicated on my faith in my fellow Americans to be true Americans. Do you guys remember The One saying his nomination "vindicates" his "faith" in America? Well his election has just destroyed my "faith" in the American people. Apparently there really are more people in this country who want a hand-out instead of the opportunity to make it on their own. The One promised to rob the "rich" and hand it out to the "poor", and a majority of our citizens said, "Yes please!" LOL
I'm laughing right now but it's a bitter thing. Have any of you ever been contractors? When the tax hikes kick in we're toast.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:03pm |
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:04pm |
re: #513 LeePro
Here's what really worries me...
Under Delaware election law, Biden was allowed to run for two offices at the same time — re-election to his Senate seat and VP of the United States. He has just won both!
As Vice President, he is the President of the Senate, and the "tie-breaker" there when needed.
Here's the problem: As sitting senator and sitting VP, does that mean he'll be able to vote twice on occasion?
? ? ?
He has to relinquish his Senate seat, which means, depending on Delaware's state constitution, their Dem governor will either have to appoint a replacement for him or call a special election to fill his vacancy.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:05pm |
re: #578 capitalist piglet
I did not know him, only saw him as a character at games and events. There's a movement on and a B of A account taking donations for his funeral expenses, and for a memorial of some kind.
I've only lived here for 10 years---but this beating is not the Seattle I knew.
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:23pm |
BBL mates, If I am still sober! Looking at finances and armament options..In three months what I want will be banned for years! Buy now or pay the price later!
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:31pm |
We are so screwed.
I was in the Loop when it happened. The events looked like they had just won a sporting match, not an election.
I went downtown via the train this evening, with the camera. I actually got some good pictures, and will post them later. I noticed a lot of younger people on the train, and it was a pretty diverse-looking group. Wound up listening to WLS-AM on the way in for their election coverage. Overheard a small group whining about the 2000 election and how Gore got the popular vote, but not the electoral vote.
Got to the city, and out of the station. There was a very, and I mean very heavy police presence on the streets. CPD, CTA cops, traffic cops, rail cops, security, you name it. There were also a ton of vendors on the street selling eveything Obama from buttons to T-shirts to posters. A bunch of leftists shouting "O-ba-ma!" every so often.
I finally made it to the edge of Grant Park, along Michigan Avenue. There were street musicians and it had a carnival atmosphere. Very odd for an election, IMHO. At Congress and Michigan was where the action was. There was the World Can't Wait organization with their banners and signs. Got a few good pictures of them. And I saw a couple holding some signs. They were dressed as a pig and a skeleton. The skeleton was holding a massive (for her at least) anti-Palin sign. The pig had a sign that simply said "Fuck McCain". How quaint in the middle of the park.
There were a lot of bicycles parked around the area. And I mean a lot. Dozens were chained up to trees, street signs, and bike racks. There was also a lot of trash on the ground. It was overflowing the garbage cans, and piled on the sidewalk. For "green" people, they sure left a bunch of trash. I also overheard the comment of the night for me: "What state does Biden represent?". Dang, you support them, shouldn't you know?
The stage, which I could see from a distance, across the railroad tracks, was somewhat visible. It had a crown of lights (six beams in all) radiating from it. The line to go into Grant Park was several blocks long as well, even at 9:30pm.
At about 10 after 10pm, the crowd went nuts, and reminded me of a Bulls championship. It was then that I decided to bug out for the train station. I made a quick stop at the Hilton, where the Republicans had set up shop. I signed the Young Republicans' registar, and talked with them. We all agreed that this was not good for the country. A young Cuban-American was there, and was upset over it. She did not like that Obama may open discussions with Castro. I agreed.
I left the hotel and headed for the train station. When I got there, I overhead another, rather large, lady whining into the phone about beating the "rednecks". I also overheard a younger lady say "They can't steal this one." Of course, nevermind that ACORN did their damnedest to deliver this one for Obama. It was a quiet ride back to town though, and that I am grateful for.
I will not congratulate Obama on his victory, and I doubt I will address him as "President Obama" or "Mr. President". It will be a cold and hard 2 years, and maybe 4. I have some pictures I will put into a post at my blog within a couple of days. Right now it's late, I'm tired, and I'm depressed.
I don't yet know how we're going to stop this tide of collectivism, but we have to.
And yes, I made it back safe and sound.
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Shakezula Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:56pm |
So coleman is up by over 6k votes now with 93% in and Stevens is (unbelievably) winning alaska by 5k with 45% in
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:02pm |
re: #528 doppelganglander
Yeah, I know... was just messin' with folks... you know, democrat/vote twice...
/snort
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:17pm |
re: #569 caligal
I am relatively new here. I see where the exclamation is a warning,what are the other icons for? the # count? the minus, plus and heart?
And, how I deal w/obama is always lower casing his name...cannot bring myself to give him enough respect (yet..?) for a capital letter...silly, but makes me feel I still have some personal power.
The "+" and "-" buttons are for uprating and downrating a post, respectively. The count is the cumulative rating, either plus or minus. The heart is to save a post as one of your favorites.
If it makes you feel better, just refer to Obama as "he who shall not be named".
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:29pm |
re: #587 realwest
Lol
Precincts Reporting: 92.35% (3814 of 4130) Last update was: 11/5/2008 1:14:23 AM
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1104599 42.23
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1089815 41.66
That's all I know.
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:38pm |
Coleman hanging on by the skin of his teeth so far...
Coleman 1,113,559
Douchebag 1,108,771
92% reporting
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:42pm |
re: #568 stuiec
The PUMAs didn't roar, and Bradley had no effect.
Yeah, but Soros mediamatters, moveon.eu and ACORN really had their "steal the election" game on though, huh?
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:50pm |
re: #595 Rancher
I blame Bush. Seriously.
There's some blameworthiness there, it's true. But not nearly enough to account for the entire debacle.
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HappyKafir Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:15pm |
Thanks W. and McCain
Lets point some fingers!
W. (and I voted for him twice)
Look at how far we have fallen under his administration. Senate - gone. House - gone. International prestige - gone. We won in Iraq at great cost. He was capable of committing our troops, but unable to lead. I have had to spend all these years defending his actions to my friends and family. THAT'S HIS JOB (*$w*(#$%!
McCain (and I voted for him too)
A "maverick" (not so conservative). Open borders. 'Nuf said.
Lessons learned:
1. Pick a real conservative that we can all get behind. One we are willing to send real $$$ (not nada bucks) to.
2. Don't let Soros pick our guy/gal.
3. Don't elect a guy/gal that can't speak. (W!)
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:33pm |
re: #616 stuiec
There's some blameworthiness there, it's true. But not nearly enough to account for the entire debacle.
It's the economy, stupid.
/not to be taken personally
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:52pm |
re: #595 Rancher
I think the MSM is one of the most culpable in this. If they had reported HALF of the stuff that was reported on the internet, Obama's numbers would have been a fraction of what they were. Journalism didn't only die this year, it was a murder/suicide, with our nation being the other casualty.
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abolitionist Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:59pm |
IMHO, many are about to learn the hard way about the Cloward-Piven Strategy, as it begins to be applied on a global scale.
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
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boogereatinmoron Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:31pm |
re: #583 realwest
He is winning 49-46 with about 50% reporting. If he wins we will likely see Sarah the Senator.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:41pm |
Does anyone know the turnout numbers for the youth vote? Each year they kind of not show up.
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Sprite Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:42pm |
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pat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:42pm |
re: #617 HappyKafir
Thanks W. and McCain
Lets point some fingers!
W. (and I voted for him twice)
Look at how far we have fallen under his administration. Senate - gone. House - gone. International prestige - gone. We won in Iraq at great cost. He was capable of committing our troops, but unable to lead. I have had to spend all these years defending his actions to my friends and family. THAT'S HIS JOB (*&#$w*(#$%!McCain (and I voted for him too)
A "maverick" (not so conservative). Open borders. 'Nuf said.Lessons learned:
1. Pick a real conservative that we can all get behind. One we are willing to send real $$$ (not nada bucks) to.
2. Don't let Soros pick our guy/gal.
3. Don't elect a guy/gal that can't speak. (W!)
Yep. In a nut shell. And someone who speaks English, is not afraid to fight back, is not afraid of the media and name calling.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:44pm |
The skeleton was holding a massive (for her at least) anti-Palin sign. The pig had a sign that simply said "Fuck McCain". How quaint in the middle of the park.
Shee... They can't even win gracefully.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:56pm |
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:01pm |
NORM COLEMAN 1124379
AL FRANKEN 1113859
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:11pm |
re: #614 Edouard
Coleman hanging on by the skin of his teeth so far...
Coleman 1,113,559
Douchebag 1,108,77192% reporting
/I would guess the remaining 8% are somewhere outstate, not Douchebag territory
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:20pm |
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FortunateSon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:21pm |
re: #608 rawmuse
Well, if paying more taxes is patriotic, and dissent is the highest form of patriotism...
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:28pm |
Well all y'all - I can't take this anymore. The Presidential election was bad enough but that Minnessota doesn't know whether or not Coleman or Franken won, by this time, 2:25AM Eastern and we've had NO election results from Alaska (Ted Stevens Senator R) means I gotta go to sleep not knowing if the damned Democrats will have a fillibuster proof Senate! SHIT.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road on a NEWER THREAD, PLEASE CHARLES!
Good night, All.
God Bless America.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:36pm |
re: #615 Dotcoman
Yeah, but Soros mediamatters, moveon.eu and ACORN really had their "steal the election" game on though, huh?
Apparently it IS possible to buy $500 million worth of $25 VISA gift cards. I wonder how much it cost for the labor to key the card numbers into Obama's Web site?
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:43pm |
Norm Coleman (R) 1,119,342 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 1,112,661 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 405,376 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 12,798 0%
James Niemackl (C) 8,167 0%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 01:25 AM Central Standard Time
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:53pm |
re: #621 PAgirlinNC
I think the MSM is one of the most culpable in this. If they had reported HALF of the stuff that was reported on the internet, Obama's numbers would have been a fraction of what they were. Journalism didn't only die this year, it was a murder/suicide, with our nation being the other casualty.
We need to return the favor to the MSM. Boycott them. Boycott their advertisers. Spread the word.
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tommoon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:57pm |
I think I will send over my Harley. Vietnam is ok if you know who to pay off. If I can get my sporster sent over, I can ride the road from Phang Ran to Tuy Hoa. I just need to learn the payoffs at the tolls.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:02pm |
re: #611 LeePro
Yeah, I know... was just messin' with folks... you know, democrat/vote twice...
/snort
Sorry, I thought you genuinely didn't know. It's late and my sarcasm detector is fritzing out. It's way past my bedtime.
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onetwothree Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:05pm |
Ok, haven't read any of the comments.
I've been a lurker for a long, long time. I live in a very blue state and am surrounded by Obama supporters (including Mr. 123 - he's ok, really) but I just can't believe this guy won. I will try my best to support him, but I'm not that confident. The minute the MSM chanels started calling the election for Obama people on my block were out in the street shooting off fireworks! I have 3 kids and I worry for their future. My oldest came home frome school today and asked me if I'd voted for "Rock Obama". I told him who I vote for is "between me and the ballot box". That's what my parents always told me. Unfortunatley, most of my friends and neighbors are the ones out there putting their kids in political rallies, so I'm sure son picked it up from friends at school.
I hope lgf can help me get thru the next 4 years. I'd always been registered as a dem, but voted mostly 'R' in the last election (2004), now I think I'm ready to change to officially registering for the republican party. Afraid of becoming a pariah in my community. Well, we'll see how it goes.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:52pm |
how did the race in pa. turn out did murtha get re-elected?
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:56pm |
re: #631 talon_262
Yes, this is "we-were-stabbed-in-the-back" talk. Do you have any evidence of this?
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wolfie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:59pm |
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:01pm |
re: #601 Tasty Beverage
My business partner and I hammered on a couple of contractors and spelled out what it will mean and they voted McCain. Its simple, if you paint houses people will wait a few more years, that lowers the pool of potential jobs 25% or so and the contractors with the biggest Nut for a mortgage goes under first and is replaced by the next till the guy who lives in his truck is the last painting contractor but by them he is doing the work solo having laid off his crews and he makes about a dollar an hour more than what he used to pay the help.
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esch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:11pm |
re: #641 Boondock St. Bender
how did the race in pa. turn out did murtha get re-elected?
Last I heard, yes.
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JacksonTn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:21pm |
I really appreciate all the emphaisis on the "financial market" and how Senator Government will put a "chicken in every pot" but what is really at stake...
How in the hell are you going to cook that chicken if you are headless ... does that seem extreme? ... in my opinion not ...when in the hell are people going to realize that they are coming for us ... yes, it is tiny steps ... but they are coming... Shariah law comes in small steps ... ACLU will make it happen ... the same people who elected Senator Government are the same people who do not "know" ... they do not want to know... we are the the ones who choose to know ... what will it take ... the media has made it clear ... they only want you to know that what they want you to see... the burkas are coming girls ... we have to stop it ...
Did you ever think Sharia law would come to England ... it starts in inches ...
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SpartanWoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:38pm |
re: #630 Killian Bundy
/I would guess the remaining 8% are somewhere outstate, not Douchebag territory
Actually I read that the remaining are in Duluth and other big D areas, it will be tight at best.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:43pm |
re: #634 realwest
Well all y'all - I can't take this anymore. The Presidential election was bad enough but that Minnessota doesn't know whether or not Coleman or Franken won, by this time, 2:25AM Eastern and we've had NO election results from Alaska (Ted Stevens Senator R) means I gotta go to sleep not knowing if the damned Democrats will have a fillibuster proof Senate! SHIT.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road on a NEWER THREAD, PLEASE CHARLES!Good night, All.
God Bless America.
I would strongly suspect that there is an effort on to ensure a "correct" result with the Big Name Looter winning. Either that or the local media is being dumber than usual.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:44pm |
Check out all the giddy Obamaholics.
/this is going to be one [expletive deleted] monster of a hangover
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:55pm |
It's getting close in Missouri. McCain ahead by only 413 votes, with only 25 precincts outstanding. Two of those are in populous but moonbat St. Louis county; the other 23 are in conservativebut sparsely populated areas. Oy.
[Link: www.sos.mo.gov...]
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:07pm |
re: #619 Moe Katz
It's the economy, stupid.
/not to be taken personally
Well, you know, if there were someone who wanted Obama to win and who happened to have experience in commodities and options trading, that person might be able to engineer major swings in oil prices, cause key holders of mortgage-backed securities to go bankrupt, that kind of thing... I mean, it couldn't be any harder than causing the currency of a major European country to collapse, could it?
But where would one find such a man?
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:15pm |
re: #620 faraway
Punk'd by PUMAs
Actually, they brought in close to what was estimated they would - 19% of Hillary's primary votes, amounting to about 4 million. The estimate was 5-7 million.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:16pm |
The top headlines from around the web tonight:
Onion: Black Man Given Nation's Worst Job
Del.icio.us: 25 Free Digital Audio Editors You Should Know (Geeks!)
Digg: Watching sexy TV shows may get you pregnant (Digg, I think a bigger story broke tonight...)
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:17pm |
Israel now better realize and quickly...They are as close to being on their own as ever.
They better be ready to unleash hell and expect no help.
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:24pm |
How about reforming our primary system in each state to make it closed for each party? Purging & cross-referencing voter registration rolls across the country? Requiring photo ID AND voter registration cards at voting time?
And no more early voting or provisional ballots.
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SteveBrandon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:26pm |
So, how long before we start seeing Right-minded people wearing t-shirts featuring the Obama "O" logo as the first letter in "ONE-TERMER"?
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RTLM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:56pm |
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:00pm |
re: #559 tackle
Because picking on Mormons is funny, hip and cool, don't ya know? Kindof like bashing Jews and parents who home school.
/
I lived with a red headed mormon once. Lived in fear mostly, making fun of, let alone "picking on" never even crossed my mind, she had absolutely no sense of humor. I kept to my side of the bed, and prayed she stayed on hers.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:10pm |
re: #652 Palandine
It's getting close in Missouri. McCain ahead by only 413 votes, with only 25 precincts outstanding. Two of those are in populous but moonbat St. Louis county; the other 23 are in conservativebut sparsely populated areas. Oy.
[Link: www.sos.mo.gov...]
If my state goes Democrat I'm going to throw up.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:18pm |
re: #648 JacksonTn
Are there any live feeds from Dearbornistan tonight?
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:22pm |
In the words of Maximus
Whatever comes out of these gates, we've got a better chance of survival if we work together. Do you understand? If we stay together we survive.
No better words can comfort us now.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:27pm |
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:34pm |
re: #628 The Other Les
Nope. That's treason now.
And to hell with Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution.
Just what Ayers and ACORN wanted.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:34pm |
re: #414 Steve
There were several of her sign down here is SW WA that said 'Chris Gregoire.' On of my friends thought that it sounded like she was trying to be a man.
I have no doubt that's what she was trying to do. When she was AG, she was "Christine". She started going by "Chris" in the last election.
Then she had the nerve to try to force Rossi to stop using "GOP".
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:44pm |
re: #631 talon_262
I sure think we gotten taken in by the PUMAS and I feel sorriest for poor Sharmuta - she bought their crap hook, line and sinker.
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caligal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:02pm |
re: #612 rabidsquirrel
Thank you for the explanations.
will consider your suggestion, but my way is much shorter... and I hate the idea of giving him much of my time or effort.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:04pm |
re: #637 ErislDysnomia
We need to return the favor to the MSM. Boycott them. Boycott their advertisers. Spread the word.
I have already boycotted them. And I am sure others in my family will. I think the MSM has already seen some of the results of their left wing agenda. It is time to move on from them and target their advertisers.
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Scion9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:04pm |
re: #534 deanayer
coleman ahead by only 136 right now with 91% I think he needs to win by a few thousand to avoid a recount. If Al Franken becomes a Senator I will use his example to begin performing unlicensed surgeries in my home for cash.
You need a license for that? Oh, wow. Well, live and learn. But lets keep this between the two of us, eh?
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:33pm |
re: #642 redmirabai
Yes, this is "we-were-stabbed-in-the-back" talk. Do you have any evidence of this?
Somebody told you we lost right?
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:35pm |
coleman (per cnn) is up only 78 at 94% and according to the powerline blog a bunch of coleman's best precincts are behind him, watch out for a change in the lead ! UNREAL !
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:37pm |
re: #659 SteveBrandon
I'd trademark that, if I were you. We'll need a lot of them in a few months.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:55pm |
re: #671 Scion9
You need a license for that? Oh, wow. Well, live and learn. But lets keep this between the two of us, eh?
Joe the surgeon.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:25pm |
re: #652 Palandine
What is the practical significance of the outcome of the Missouri race at this point?
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:29pm |
I've decided to move to Pennsylvania, and run for office.
"Hi, Pennsylvania! I'd like to be your next governor. As governor, I promise to bankrupt both your racist oil industry and your redneck steel industry! I hope to see you at the polls!"
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:32pm |
With 94% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 407569 15.23
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1128886 42.17
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1117043 41.73
Dean Barkley worked for "The Body"...just as dumb, only smaller.
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:41pm |
re: #623 boogereatinmoron
He is winning 49-46 with about 50% reporting. If he wins we will likely see Sarah the Senator.
If I were an Alaskan, I'd vote for Stevens. Why, so a Republican could be named to replace him rather than a Dem winning. I hate Stevens for making Republicans look even worse to the general electorate this year. Good riddance and get another Republican into that seat.
Sarah would make the appointment I believe, so I don't think she'd be the new senator herself. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:42pm |
re: #572 The Other Les
And they deserve to get it good and hard.
That's because of the six forms of government identified by the ancient Greeks the Democracy was the absolute worst.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:54pm |
re: #655 Intrepid
Actually, they brought in close to what was estimated they would - 19% of Hillary's primary votes, amounting to about 4 million. The estimate was 5-7 million.
What state did we win with PUMAs?
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Globular Cluster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:58pm |
re: #277 nyc redneck
i think you're reaction to the O is perfectly acceptable. i've had so many emotions tonight. tears, fury, shock, bewilderment. it is just so hard to believe.
i will never call him president. not gonna happen. we need to go to work to expose him and try to defeat him at every turn when he seeks to implement his dangerous policies. you are right we won't be able to 'get' along w/ the new O regime.
Give him a chance to show his stripes first, or you risk the high ground.
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tommoon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:01pm |
Phan Rang is a great party town. Was there in 2006. Beach really sucks. Looks like a sevage spill. I saw French tourist diving in like it was a moonlit at the Caribbean. They already smell, so I guess nothing was lost. The bartender had to hold his breath when he served them. Nothing new there.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:04pm |
re: #646 esch
ech!i was hopeing that bastard was out...oh well...two years..and hopefully another rep.revolution this time i hope they get it right.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:16pm |
re: #567 ErislDysnomia
I, for one, will not be terribly unhappy if the Dow really tanks.
Like an alcoholic, the sooner the US hits bottom the sooner can start the recovery.
pretty much what i meant... HALO the sucker and lets see who has balls.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:21pm |
re: #638 tommoon
I think I will send over my Harley. Vietnam is ok if you know who to pay off. If I can get my sporster sent over, I can ride the road from Phang Ran to Tuy Hoa. I just need to learn the payoffs at the tolls.
/give at least until the end of February
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:26pm |
re: #672 faraway
And it's because of the PUMA's? Explain please, I thought they were sincere.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:28pm |
re: #653 stuiec
Well, you know, if there were someone who wanted Obama to win and who happened to have experience in commodities and options trading, that person might be able to engineer major swings in oil prices, cause key holders of mortgage-backed securities to go bankrupt, that kind of thing... I mean, it couldn't be any harder than causing the currency of a major European country to collapse, could it?
But where would one find such a man?
Maybe a cabal?
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:43pm |
re: #677 gmsc
I've decided to move to Pennsylvania, and run for office.
"Hi, Pennsylvania! I'd like to be your next governor. As governor, I promise to bankrupt both your racist oil industry and your redneck steel industry! I hope to see you at the polls!"
It's hard not to be enraged by people's stupidity.
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Captkirk35 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:44pm |
With all due respect, your comment about your vote being between you and the ballot box is a big part of the problem w/ our side these days. By doing this, all you do is allow the forces on the Left to get free reign on his/her belief system. We need to actively guide our kids, friends, and acquantances when possible towards the truth, and the reasons behind what drives our world, and which leaders/parties support what causes.
re: #640 onetwothree
Ok, haven't read any of the comments.
I've been a lurker for a long, long time. I live in a very blue state and am surrounded by Obama supporters (including Mr. 123 - he's ok, really) but I just can't believe this guy won. I will try my best to support him, but I'm not that confident. The minute the MSM chanels started calling the election for Obama people on my block were out in the street shooting off fireworks! I have 3 kids and I worry for their future. My oldest came home frome school today and asked me if I'd voted for "Rock Obama". I told him who I vote for is "between me and the ballot box". That's what my parents always told me. Unfortunatley, most of my friends and neighbors are the ones out there putting their kids in political rallies, so I'm sure son picked it up from friends at school.
I hope lgf can help me get thru the next 4 years. I'd always been registered as a dem, but voted mostly 'R' in the last election (2004), now I think I'm ready to change to officially registering for the republican party. Afraid of becoming a pariah in my community. Well, we'll see how it goes.
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Tasty Beverage Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:49pm |
re: #645 deanayer
My business partner and I hammered on a couple of contractors and spelled out what it will mean and they voted McCain. Its simple, if you paint houses people will wait a few more years, that lowers the pool of potential jobs 25% or so and the contractors with the biggest Nut for a mortgage goes under first and is replaced by the next till the guy who lives in his truck is the last painting contractor but by them he is doing the work solo having laid off his crews and he makes about a dollar an hour more than what he used to pay the help.
Jeebus, dean, thanks for the pep-talk. LOL I'm not in the construction bidness but I hear ya.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:51pm |
Oh, and I am so going to go get a gun permit tomorrow. Do you think I will have a problem getting one if I show up still drunk or hungover?
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:09pm |
OMG
Total Reporting:93% Name Votes Pct.
Norm Coleman (R) 1,133,586 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 1,133,508 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 410,747 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 13,036 0%
James Niemackl (C) 8,306 0%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 01:33 AM Central Standard Time
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moonflower Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:09pm |
My niece and my nephews (all under 24 years of age) all voted for McCain even here in the Peoples Republic of California. God Bless them.
I hope we get through the next 4 years as a nation. Yikes.
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JacksonTn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:15pm |
re: #620 faraway
Punk'd by PUMAs
I say to you ... my family voted republcan straight down ticket as we were always encouraged to do for the dems ...please do not think it was the responsibility for the PUMAS to carry the all the water .. check Peggy Noonan for that ...we did our best. we are the ones without party now.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:31pm |
re: #670 PAgirlinNC
I have already boycotted them. And I am sure others in my family will. I think the MSM has already seen some of the results of their left wing agenda. It is time to move on from them and target their advertisers.
I am quite serious. We need to start a mass movement for this. Boycott the MSM and its advertisers and sponsors.
Nothing at all improper about that.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:20pm |
re: #691 Tigger2005
It's hard not to be enraged by people's stupidity.
Especially when half of the voting population is stupid.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:29pm |
re: #638 tommoon
I think I will send over my Harley. Vietnam is ok if you know who to pay off. If I can get my sporster sent over, I can ride the road from Phang Ran to Tuy Hoa. I just need to learn the payoffs at the tolls.
Won't be long and we'll have to be learning that way of life and doing business over here too.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:47pm |
re: #676 stuiec
What is the practical significance of the outcome of the Missouri race at this point?
Well, if MO goes McCain it will spare me having to clean up the vomit from my keyboard. That's significant.
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:14pm |
This MN Senate race is driving me nuts. God help us if Minnesota can't elect a decent man over this a-hole.
Latest:
Coleman 1,133,586
Franken 1,133,508
Only 78 votes separating. Unreal
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:17pm |
With 94.26% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 407774 15.22
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1129423 42.17
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1117912 41.74
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:19pm |
re: #668 realwest
I sure think we gotten taken in by the PUMAS and I feel sorriest for poor Sharmuta - she bought their crap hook, line and sinker.
EXCUSE ME! I've posted this three times now.
PUMAS voted for McCain in numbers that were close to what was estimated - about 4 million from the estimated 5-7 million. But conservatives sure didn't deliver the numbers we could have, either.
And many of them on the HC Forum are saying things like this:
First, to all the friends that I have made here since March..thank you, I do so love and respect you all...but this needs to be said right here and now...
HILLARY AND BILL SOLD US OUT! Ted Kennedy didn't support Carter because he knew he wasn't good for America..and Ted was right.
Why didn't Bill and Hillary have the same COURAGE to do the same? How many more Hillary supporters would have voted McCain/Palin if they had stood by principle vs party and not campaigned for Obama?
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Tarkus289 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:35pm |
The final tally on the presidential race is still climbing, obama up by over 5 million now, and I thought I could not feel any worse. Silly me.
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intifan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:36pm |
re: #627 Salem
Shee... They can't even win gracefully.
My cousin (brainwashed beyond belief, bless his soul) said we'd all be thanking them in four years for electing he-who-shall-not-be-named, I simply stated, "No, I don't think we will." He and his friend jumped all over me with comments like, "You'll just have to suffer like we have the last 8 years," and "I wish all conservatives would move to another country," and "just move on and stop being bitter," and "stop rolling in your own pity."
They win, and they STILL have to whine about how awful they have/had it. I'm beginning to think there may actually be something clinically wrong with all these people.
It's pathetic, they have a hard time imagining someone having a reaction to loss other than loathing and self pity.
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:44pm |
re: #662 Tigger2005
If my state goes Democrat I'm going to throw up.
I'm dyin' here. I'm so tired, but I can't go to bed unless I know.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:54pm |
re: #699 PAgirlinNC
Especially when half of the voting population is stupid.
It's time for Atlas to start shrugging.
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:54pm |
Well,
At least Carter brought us Reagan.
Hope we can do that again, rather than "getting used" to BHO and his ilk.
Not only am I afraid of what the next 4 years days will bring; I am afraid of what the next 100 days will bring... here, and abroad.
We're about to find out what Joe Biden was talking about.
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Globular Cluster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:57pm |
Norm Coleman up 1200 votes over Al Franken. This will go on for weeks of recounts and recriminations.
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boogereatinmoron Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:02pm |
re: #679 Edouard
Following the Murkowski debacle Alaska changed the procedure.
A temporary appointment will be made and there will be another election. Sarah would make the appointment and would also be able to run in the election.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:03pm |
re: #702 Edouard
This MN Senate race is driving me nuts. God help us if Minnesota can't elect a decent man over this a-hole.
Latest:
Coleman 1,133,586
Franken 1,133,508Only 78 votes separating. Unreal
Is Kinko's open this late?
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:06pm |
re: #695 BakaRanger
OMG
Total Reporting:93% Name Votes Pct.
Norm Coleman (R) 1,133,586 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 1,133,508 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 410,747 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 13,036 0%
James Niemackl (C) 8,306 0%LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 01:33 AM Central Standard Time
/my vote will put over the top
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:08pm |
re: #653 stuiec
the only problem with that is finding a fool and his money which wished parting,and hoping the spin would go his way.sounds good now(after the election)but this issue could have swung the result in eithers favor.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:47pm |
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:00pm |
re: #673 deanayer
coleman (per cnn) is up only 78 at 94% and according to the powerline blog a bunch of coleman's best precincts are behind him, watch out for a change in the lead ! UNREAL !
That's not what the Min. Sec. Of State is showing. They show at 94%,
Coleman 1129423
Franken 1117912
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:20pm |
re: #576 JacksonTn
Lee Pro ... at least we kept TN...
Yup! The entire south (although no one knows about Alabama), except for the Carolinas.
But small consolation, sadly.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:25pm |
re: #657 Oh no...Sand People!
Israel now better realize and quickly...They are as close to being on their own as ever.
They better be ready to unleash hell and expect no help.
I predict they will unleash hell after Thanksgiving and before Christmas (which falls smack dab in the middle of Chanukah this year). They have to do it before Bush leaves office and it would be ungracious to do it before Thanksgiving.
If McCain had won, the Israelis could have held off for a couple of years while they improved their missile defenses. But given that the Obama Administration would be as likely to use force against "aggressor Israel" in the event of a pre-emptive strike on Iran as it would to come to Israel's aid, the Israelis can't wait. Which is horribly unfortunate, because Hezbollah has 30,000 missiles aimed at Israel, capable of hitting targets all along Israel's length and breadth. Those extra two years would have been extremely valuable.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:57pm |
re: #681 faraway
What state did we win with PUMAs?
What states did we lose because there weren't enough conservatives there voting for McCain?
I wish we'd had more PUMA votes too, but more than that, I wish we'd had more CONSERVATIVE votes.
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:03pm |
re: #703 SaneInMN
You have converted me ! CNN is scaring the hell out of me, I like your numbers better - all I want is one lousy crumb out of the election, didnt get McCain, didnt wave goodbye to slanderous porkosaurus murtha, please let me have stuart smalley on a stick, I promise I will share !
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:03pm |
re: #601 Tasty Beverage
I am astonished at this outcome. My confidence in a McCain-Palin win was predicated on my faith in my fellow Americans to be true Americans. Do you guys remember The One saying his nomination "vindicates" his "faith" in America? Well his election has just destroyed my "faith" in the American people. Apparently there really are more people in this country who want a hand-out instead of the opportunity to make it on their own. The One promised to rob the "rich" and hand it out to the "poor", and a majority of our citizens said, "Yes please!" LOL
I'm laughing right now but it's a bitter thing. Have any of you ever been contractors? When the tax hikes kick in we're toast.
sell the buisness now...
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:22pm |
re: #642 redmirabai
Yeah, here's your evidence - they didn't show up in any numbers worth talking about - FOX figured MAYBE as many as 16% of Dems who voted for Hillary voted for McCain - over at Hillbuzz and some other PUMA site, they were saying 35% -40% would vote for McCain. And we believed them - fuckers! IF they had been right, McCain woulda won the damned election.
Don't forget Hillary got over 18 MILLION VOTES - 35% would have given McCain (subtracting out Fox's guesstimate of 16%) something like another 3.8 million votes more than enough to beat Obama (especially if you subtract taht 3.8 million from his total). We were suckered by 'em. THEY NEVER SHOWED UP AND VOTED McCAIN!
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:25pm |
re: #698 ErislDysnomia
I completely agree. Hey, the grassroots movement worked for Obama. We can only build on that... (partial sarcasm, partical truth.) I really think that 46 million plus people can send a message to the MSM - MSM including TV, magazine, newspapers, radio, etc.
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:37pm |
re: #676 stuiec
What is the practical significance of the outcome of the Missouri race at this point?
It makes those of us who live here confident that our state has a little sense. :) A small comfort, but if it happens, I'll take it.
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Tarkus289 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:38pm |
As for the PUMAS, I don't know the details but I say thank you, they seemed passionate and sincere, and I don't care if it was 400 or 4 million votes, I appreciate them all.
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Scion9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:40pm |
re: #692 Captkirk35
We need to actively guide our kids, friends, and acquantances when possible towards the truth, and the reasons behind what drives our world, and which leaders/parties support what causes.
As Thomas Jefferson intended. His philosophy is not one born of man's most natural inclinations and basic instincts, but it is the one best suited towards his own ultimate pursuit of happiness in denying him his ability to deny others their rights. Liberty is incapable of existing without education, and he knew it.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:42pm |
Start bracing for the '6 month national crisis' Biden has been prophesying about that is going to test 'Obama'...
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:01pm |
re: #658 Florida Lady
How about reforming our primary system in each state to make it closed for each party? Purging & cross-referencing voter registration rolls across the country? Requiring photo ID AND voter registration cards at voting time?
And no more early voting or provisional ballots.
Great ideas. I am sure the Pelosi-Reid Congress will propose that legislation right away -- maybe even in the special session that they said they'd call to get the "economic stimulus" going.
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:11pm |
re: #705 Tarkus289
The final tally on the presidential race is still climbing, obama up by over 5 million now, and I thought I could not feel any worse. Silly me.
Jut wait until he starts signing dem legislation into law.
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:17pm |
Totally OT: Michelle can't dress for sh*t. Sorry, guys. Had to say it.
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:19pm |
re: #679 Edouard
If I were an Alaskan, I'd vote for Stevens. Why, so a Republican could be named to replace him rather than a Dem winning. I hate Stevens for making Republicans look even worse to the general electorate this year. Good riddance and get another Republican into that seat.
Sarah would make the appointment I believe, so I don't think she'd be the new senator herself. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken.
She could appoint herself. It's not unprecedented.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:29pm |
We need to look for groups to keep, not ways to divide.
Are PUMAs people that will return home to their home party? Or will they stay and fight with us in 2012?
I don't know the answer. Maybe others here who know more about PUMAs can answer.
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tommoon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:36pm |
Killian Bundy
/give at least until the end of February
Yea, I got plenty of time. Rainy season doesn't start until March. Then is unpredictable until September.
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:42pm |
re: #691 Tigger2005
It's hard not to be enraged by people's stupidity.
Ohio and Penn will get what is coming to them. Unfortunately the rest of us will feel it as well.
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nkca1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:17pm |
where is a good country to move to that supports conservative values?
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:18pm |
re: #662 Tigger2005
If my state goes Democrat I'm going to throw up.
I already got some serious heartburn on the way back from the Loop. Had a Drumstick to soothe it. :-d
HTF everything here seems to go Dem is beyond me. Don't people see what they're trying to do!?!
/I think I'll stop pulling at my hair now. If I keep it up, I'll have none left.
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aaron01 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:24pm |
I just had a thought. What happens when people don't end up getting all the handouts they are expecting from Obama? (You know, he's gonna pay my mortage, he's gonna put gas in my car.. etc.) I'm thinking people will start to get restless waiting for their goodie bags. Then they will decide to target those they perceive to be wealthy and help themselves... just something that popped in my mind.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:29pm |
re: #704 Intrepid
NO! See my #722 they were always talking about 35-40 PER CENT of Hillary's vote and Hillary's vote was over 18 million!
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:31pm |
So, in order to implement the 'fairness doctrine', are we going to have a split screen on the PC? We come here to LGF and the 'government controlled' side of the PC will autogenerate DKos?
*Spit*
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:38pm |
re: #709 astronmr20
That's going to be rather hard to do from inside the gulags and re-education camps Clinton had built across the US.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:45pm |
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:46pm |
With 94.41% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 408390 15.22
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1131127 42.17
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1119491 41.73
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vegasjew Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:15pm |
657 I dont know that you are right about Israel
I will explain if you want me to,
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:15pm |
re: #719 Intrepid
I wish we'd had more PUMA votes too, but more than that, I wish we'd had more CONSERVATIVE votes.
/we've got two years to think about it and hold their feet to the fire, calm down, see what happens
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:25pm |
re: #738 aaron01
I just had a thought. What happens when people don't end up getting all the handouts they are expecting from Obama? (You know, he's gonna pay my mortage, he's gonna put gas in my car.. etc.) I'm thinking people will start to get restless waiting for their goodie bags. Then they will decide to target those they perceive to be wealthy and help themselves... just something that popped in my mind.
He'll give out just enough goodies.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:28pm |
re: #453 Adrenalyn
Bush deserves a large measure of attribution for this
he and he alone stood there for 8 years taking hit after hit
lie after lie
insult after insult
forged document exposeand never raised a complaint
why do you think he is called
the 43rd Pussident of the United States
Right. And the gutless #*%$s in our party didn't say a word in his defense, did they? They were more than happy to disassociate with him when they needed to, to save their own asses. I would imagine President Bush had his hands a little full - maybe too full to worry about preserving some kind of legacy.
This is the man that kept America from another domestic attack after 9/11, and I am grateful for it. I always will be. I will never forget the feeling of insecurity that haunted me for months after 9/11, when I thought I would never feel safe as an American again. Thanks to him, I do. I will give him the respect he deserves for that - he doesn't need to be perfect for me.
The one silver lining in all this for me is that people will finally STFU about what a bad president Bush is. If the job is so damned easy, it should be a breeze for a junior senator from Illinois.
I'm not going to debate this - everyone is entitled to their opinion about it, but that's mine, and I make no apologies for it. President Bush is a good and decent man, and just because the press and the left has ravaged him does not mean we should feel obligated to follow suit.
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RTLM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:30pm |
The Dems were denied Super Majority in the Senate.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:46pm |
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:58pm |
The MSM's already starting with the "Obama's got a mandate" crap:
A Mandate For Change
*retch*
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:16pm |
re: #736 nkca1
where is a good country to move to that supports conservative values?
I'm in the Philippines... food sucks. People are nice to your face at least. Culture is way passive. Perfect for the evils of capitalism to exploit the indigenous people...
B.O. is going to force outsourcing to an even bigger degree...
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:17pm |
re: #729 stuiec
Great ideas. I am sure the Pelosi-Reid Congress will propose that legislation right away -- maybe even in the special session that they said they'd call to get the "economic stimulus" going.
I'm not looking for smart-ass rejoinders. And I would neither expect nor want Congress to support these ideas.
One state at a time would be nice. I'll try starting in my own.
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intifan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:18pm |
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:29pm |
re: #721 redc1c4
sell the buisness now...
Sell it to a moonbat. Take their money, do something smart with it, and let them run their new business into the ground.
What do you care, as long as you have their money?
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:55pm |
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Benthoven Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:15pm |
Welcome to Obama's Brave New World. The One's "Thought Police" troll the internet already, amassing the database necessary to find people like me who will resist with everything I got until they finally pry the weapon from my cold dead fingers. The coming bloody civil war will again pit brother against brother, and quite literally in my case. I wish I could remember where I read this eventual election prophesied some 25-30 years ago, but the prediction was that the subsequent civil war would end with the dissolution of the USA, which will split roughly into 4 separate sovereign countries, each with its own government, army, constitution, etc.
I thought back then it was a bunch of bullshit, like most conspiracy garbage. Now I am not so sure. I am reminded of an old motto from my youth that has served me well for my entire adult life: "Be Prepared"
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:16pm |
This is getting scary
Coleman only ahead by 1,200 votes with 94% reporting.
Ugh.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:18pm |
*wooof* What a night. Hey red, I think you should at least double your nightly contribution to the fruitcup. The early morning lizards are going to need it.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:19pm |
U.S. Senate-Minnesota
Total Reporting:94% Name Votes Pct.
Norm Coleman (R) 1,138,466 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 1,137,254 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 412,281 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 13,080 0%
James Niemackl (C) 8,332 0%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 01:42 AM Central Standard Time
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:22pm |
Sane, you're looking at what I'm looking at. I would think that the Min. Sec. of State would be more reliable than CNN, no?
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:28pm |
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:32pm |
re: #706 intifan
What kills me is, there are like, a hundred socialist/communist countries in the world. If that is what they want, why don't they just freakin' move there!?!? Seriously. What will be so different about a socialist/communist America vs. a Cuba/Venezuela or any of the others? Nothing. So, leave us what our founding fathers wanted for us and move to a county that is more to your liking.
Sigh.
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:33pm |
re: #735 logboy
Ohio and Penn will get what is coming to them. Unfortunately the rest of us will feel it as well.
On behalf of Ohio, I apologize. For what it's worth, two of my neighbors and I managed to get everyone in my neighborhood to vote, and - allegedly - they all cast their ballots for McCain. Except for the lesbian couple across the street.
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Rancher Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:43pm |
re: #616 stuiec
There's some blameworthiness there, it's true. But not nearly enough to account for the entire debacle.
True. Other culprits are the sub-prime mess, the Republican congress that spent like drunken sailors, and plain old greed on the part of the American proletariat. Had Bush been more of fiscal conservative this might have been avoided, or at least postponed, but the pendulum always swings one way then another. The left swing started in 2006.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:47pm |
Oh cripes. If you thought the Hollywood celebrities were insufferable before. This is really going to bite...
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:48pm |
re: #717 LeePro
Lee - what do you mean except for the Carolinas - last time I check, NC was slightly in the lead for McCain and SC was waaay in the lead for McCain!
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:58pm |
re: #749 capitalist piglet
Right. And the gutless #*%$s in our party didn't say a word in his defense, did they?
No, they didn't.
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Scion9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:40pm |
re: #725 Tarkus289
As for the PUMAS, I don't know the details but I say thank you, they seemed passionate and sincere, and I don't care if it was 400 or 4 million votes, I appreciate them all.
Yeah. 4 million people coming in out of the dark is comforting. Bush barely won over Al Gore, and even more shamefully over John Kerry. McCain's campaign was not good, he was a member of the incumbent party, and the biased handling of the election by the media on top of it all stacked the election extremely in the favor of Obama. The PUMAs didn't lose this election, and their massaging of the numbers and false sense of hope isn't to blame for McCain's loss, even if they did lead to a lot of shattered dreams.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:45pm |
re: #740 Oh no...Sand People!
So, in order to implement the 'fairness doctrine', are we going to have a split screen on the PC? We come here to LGF and the 'government controlled' side of the PC will autogenerate DKos?
*Spit*
I think his Divine Shadow of Marx, has a final solution for the Internet, and he outlined it in his attack on Coal and the price of electricity.
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:49pm |
re: #639 doppelganglander
Sorry, I thought you genuinely didn't know. It's late and my sarcasm detector is fritzing out. It's way past my bedtime.
Me sorry, too.
Forgot sarc tag!
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:57pm |
re: #769 Salem
Oh cripes. If you thought the Hollywood celebrities were insufferable before. This is really going to bite...
Anyone gives me crap, I'm going to remind them that LA, Hollywood, Vegas, NYC prime terrorist targets.
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:20pm |
I'm going to bed, coleman up 11k - I will wait for the morning, caio all ! (is it 2012 yet?)
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:28pm |
re: #733 faraway
We need to look for groups to keep, not ways to divide.
Are PUMAs people that will return home to their home party? Or will they stay and fight with us in 2012?
I don't know the answer. Maybe others here who know more about PUMAs can answer.
Check out what they're saying here, in some of the threads. There are a few "I'm sad, but a little excited...blah blah let's give Obama a chance!" but for the most part, a good number of them express their disdain for democrats.
And in threads past, I've seen quite a few say they're done with dems and changing to republican.
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vegasjew Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:34pm |
I can only hope that Obamas best trait of throwing people under the bus continues. I am hoping that he throws Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid under the bus.
I dont necessarily think he will zoom to the left,he saw Clinton do it and 2 years later he was crippled.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:55pm |
How could the Clintons endorse McCain after Hillary clearly sought the Veep nomination?
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:59pm |
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joekowalski247 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:01pm |
re: #705 Tarkus289
The final tally on the presidential race is still climbing, obama up by over 5 million now, and I thought I could not feel any worse. Silly me.
Well technically is only 2,500,000. Mickey Mouse and Donald duck voted multiple times... haa haa hhaaa ...no ones laughing, this is just a bad dream when I wake up tomorrow the world will be normal again?
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:11pm |
Norm Coleman (R) 1,138,466 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 1,137,254 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 412,281 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 13,080 0%
James Niemackl (C) 8,332 0%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 01:46 AM Central Standard Time
This from [Link: elections.cbslocal.com...]
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Shakezula Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:19pm |
You cant say this election was stolen, Obama was shoved down the throats of all of us and our celebrity obsessed culture was willing to bring him into their homes with the same mindless acceptance of coke or any other heavily promoted consumer product. Obama cannot possibly live up to his billing. He was advertised as the savior, the messiah, the healer of all that ills us. What the American people will soon find out, is that their hero is simply an empty suit.
He will run his first 100 days on populism, signing do nothing, feel good ,popular legislation. The next 1361 days will be his true test. Some claim he will move away from the Ayers and lead down a centrist path. We who know him best, know that to be nonsense. Obama will hamstring our economy with higher taxes, down shifting tax brackets, and W. style reckless spending. Obama won by being all things to everyone. Its easy to promise the world, its much harder when you have to deliver. I predict obama will spend those post 100 days pissing off every group that supported him. He will sell out our allies and coddle our enemies and generally ruin our standing in the world.
The good news is that this is all temporary. We live in a country that over 70% claim to be either conservative or moderate. Only 22% claimed to be liberal. 18 months of horrific government will usher in a 1994 style take over of the house with true conservatives. And as long as we choose wisely and govern effectively a GOP president who can work tirelessly to undo the Gordian knot of the obama presidency.
A Jewish sage named Rabbi Nachman once said "If you believe you can break something, have faith that you can repair it." We have dealt with bad presidents before, and we have always came back stronger as a nation. Remember fellow lizards, its always darkest before the dawn. Have a great night and keep your heads up, we fought a good fight.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:28pm |
re: #714 Boondock St. Bender
the only problem with that is finding a fool and his money which wished parting,and hoping the spin would go his way.sounds good now(after the election)but this issue could have swung the result in eithers favor.
Yes, but if done right, the screwing with the economy actually makes the perpetrator a fortune (as Soros made from the collapse of the British pound). So it's a way for him to "do well by doing good."
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Tasty Beverage Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:30pm |
re: #721 redc1c4
sell the buisness now...
I don't have a business, I'm a common dreg. *cry*
I'm just truly astonished that my fellow Americans fell for this charlatan. Get ready for lines at the gas station. Hugo and Vladimir are licking their chops with this guy.
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:37pm |
From a media guy
I saw signs at the White House demonstration/celebration tonight that said, Evict Bush Tonight! Get the Bum out! Put Bush in Jail!
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:02pm |
New Minnesota update:
Coleman 1,138,466
Franken 1,137,254
94% precincts
Still unbelievably close.
Excellent quick updates here: http://elections.cbslocal.com/cbs/wcco/20081104/race11.shtml
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:05pm |
I have no words...forgive me if I'm repeating myself, but I just don't have it in me to be 'gracious' after the MSM, co-workers and even some kin have been steadily beating the you're-a-racist/jingoist/closet Nazi drum because I'm not in love with their annointed community organizer.
Even if they tried being gracious in victory (I don't see it happening) too fucking late- they burned their bridges with me and pissed on the ashes.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:24pm |
re: #35 Cognito
I don't know about where you guys are, but all hell has broken out here.
I want to have a sense of goodwill about this, but I've got a very dark, dark sense of what may lie ahead. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just the moment.
If you're anywhere near Grant Park, then you're seeing some of what I escaped. I had a bad feeling it would look like a Bulls championship, so I bugged out of there after Obama won.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:27pm |
re: #752 talon_262
The only comment in CBS' "A Mandate For Change" article right now fits in quite well here:
It will be interesting to watch the faces of those who elected Barack Obama - they will rapidly change from their wide-eyed wonder - to confusion, then to apprehension, then to disbelief, and finally to horror as they discover their new leader is as hollow as the promises he has made.
Joe Biden is right - Barack Obama will be tested, and the entire Democrat-controlled Congress will be tested - and they will not have the luxury of blaming anyone else for their own failures.
And fail, the Democrats will.
And fail, Barack Obama will.
And then comes the judgement of the American people.
And it will be severe.
No more whining, Democrats - now you get to be the punching bag.
Let's make it so...WOLVERINES!
/channeling Mandy
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intifan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:29pm |
re: #765 PAgirlinNC
Yeah, I would have said that, but they were already freaking out and spinning out of control.
Man, we got screwed in NC this year. The next two years, at least, are gonna be rough here...
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:38pm |
re: #738 aaron01
I just had a thought. What happens when people don't end up getting all the handouts they are expecting from Obama? (You know, he's gonna pay my mortage, he's gonna put gas in my car.. etc.) I'm thinking people will start to get restless waiting for their goodie bags. Then they will decide to target those they perceive to be wealthy and help themselves... just something that popped in my mind.
It will be Bush's fault. And the Republicans. Dems have control of all of Washington, including the Supreme Court (soon). And somehow, it will always come back to the Bush and the Republicans.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:04pm |
re: #739 realwest
NO! See my #722 they were always talking about 35-40 PER CENT of Hillary's vote and Hillary's vote was over 18 million!
That was the first estimate I heard and repeated (way back weeks ago), but then it was adjusted down to 5-7 million. Who was still talking about up to 40 percent?
Sharmuta brought in the 5-7 mil, and that was close to what turned out.
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joekowalski247 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:04pm |
re: #714 Boondock St. Bender
the only problem with that is finding a fool and his money which wished parting,and hoping the spin would go his way.sounds good now(after the election)but this issue could have swung the result in eithers favor.
"a fool and his money are soon parted"
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vegasjew Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:16pm |
coleman ,smith and stevens all leading right now
could be a + 5 only
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:37pm |
re: #738 aaron01
I just had a thought. What happens when people don't end up getting all the handouts they are expecting from Obama? (You know, he's gonna pay my mortage, he's gonna put gas in my car.. etc.) I'm thinking people will start to get restless waiting for their goodie bags. Then they will decide to target those they perceive to be wealthy and help themselves... just something that popped in my mind.
That popped into my mind but then I remembered that Republicans are always to blame.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:42pm |
re: #765 PAgirlinNC
What kills me is, there are like, a hundred socialist/communist countries in the world. If that is what they want, why don't they just freakin' move there!?!? Seriously. What will be so different about a socialist/communist America vs. a Cuba/Venezuela or any of the others? Nothing. So, leave us what our founding fathers wanted for us and move to a county that is more to your liking.
Sigh.
Because Communist Socialism is Global, and it just won't work if we all aren't miserable.
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logboy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:48pm |
re: #756 victor_yugo
Sell it to a moonbat. Take their money, do something smart with it, and let them run their new business into the ground.
What do you care, as long as you have their money?
Better idea. Sell the business, take the money and buy a house you can't afford. Don't worry about payments, the government will cover them. When they grow rich with your old business they'll have to spread the wealth around and you'll get a check in the mail. See how great this is?
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:48pm |
re: #777 Intrepid
Check out what they're saying here, in some of the threads. There are a few "I'm sad, but a little excited...blah blah let's give Obama a chance!" but for the most part, a good number of them express their disdain for democrats.
And in threads past, I've seen quite a few say they're done with dems and changing to republican.
Your first sign they will return to their Dem roots is they are still on a hillaryclinton website. When they start hanging out at HotAir, LGF, or the like, then...
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:37pm |
Alright...let's see here.
Obahitler?
O'Hitler?
Hitler'O's?
Dang...nothing really works with his name and Hitler..
NO!
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Cheese Eating Victory Monkey Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:42pm |
If Obama really wants to promote a bipartisan spirit, he will offer McCain the position of Secretary of Defense.
I know, it won't happen. But it would be cool.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:50pm |
That's it, I'm outta here.
Will have to find out whether Obama won by 5 million or not (and yes if he did that IS a mandate - that's twice what Bush beat Kerry by) whether or not Coleman beat that idiot Franken and who won North and South Carolina.
Good night all.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:51pm |
re: #788 Fenway_Nation
I have no words...forgive me if I'm repeating myself, but I just don't have it in me to be 'gracious' after the MSM, co-workers and even some kin have been steadily beating the you're-a-racist/jingoist/closet Nazi drum because I'm not in love with their annointed community organizer.
Even if they tried being gracious in victory (I don't see it happening) too fucking late- they burned their bridges with me and pissed on the ashes.
Indeed. Any friend of mine who voted for O is now an ex friend.
Time to draw the line.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:56pm |
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:04pm |
re: #722 realwest
Yeah, here's your evidence - they didn't show up in any numbers worth talking about - FOX figured MAYBE as many as 16% of Dems who voted for Hillary voted for McCain - over at Hillbuzz and some other PUMA site, they were saying 35% -40% would vote for McCain. And we believed them - fuckers! IF they had been right, McCain woulda won the damned election.
Don't forget Hillary got over 18 MILLION VOTES - 35% would have given McCain (subtracting out Fox's guesstimate of 16%) something like another 3.8 million votes more than enough to beat Obama (especially if you subtract taht 3.8 million from his total). We were suckered by 'em. THEY NEVER SHOWED UP AND VOTED McCAIN!
Doesn't mean they "suckered" anyone -- just means the leaders of their movement overestimated the number of Democrats who would be willing to cross over and pull the lever with the "R" by it. Some habits die pretty hard.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:09pm |
re: #722 realwest
But did their 'lying' keep conservatives away? Were Republicans thinking,"I don't have to vote, I don't have to donate, all those PUMA's will cover this?"
Or is it that in the event, when it came to the ballot box, most PUMAs could not bring themselves to vote against the party, no matter how despicable the candidate was, no matter that they know their beloved HRC was cheated out of the nomination?
That would make me pity them: because if they believe Clinton will get elected after this man is done with the country---they are wrong.
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:46pm |
re: #770 realwest
Lee - what do you mean except for the Carolinas - last time I check, NC was slightly in the lead for McCain and SC was waaay in the lead for McCain!
K.
That's good. Last I heard was FOX calling both states for BO.
tv off last 2 hours
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:46pm |
re: #786 faraway
I fear that the extreme-left wackjob Democrats in Congress are going to try some kind of war crimes thing against Bush and Cheney and that no one will be able to stop them anymore.
You know, someone like Kucinich or Stark or Maxine Waters or Barbara Lee or Jim McDermott, someone like that.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:01pm |
re: #736 nkca1
where is a good country to move to that supports conservative values?
One of the prarie provinces in Canada? Probably would get the most bang for your buck loonie in Alberta...
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:02pm |
I'm not going to debate this - everyone is entitled to their opinion about it, but that's mine, and I make no apologies for it. President Bush is a good and decent man, and just because the press and the left has ravaged him does not mean we should feel obligated to follow suit.
-Capitalist Piglet
After the Obamanation steers us into a Depression, the country will be ready to carve a W in Mount Rushmore.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:07pm |
re: #802 realwest
That's it, I'm outta here.
Will have to find out whether Obama won by 5 million or not (and yes if he did that IS a mandate - that's twice what Bush beat Kerry by) whether or not Coleman beat that idiot Franken and who won North and South Carolina.
Good night all.
It's a mandate only in the eyes of people who thought this was an unbiased election.
The MSM and various forms of voter/donation fraud made that impossible.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:15pm |
re: #800 Oh no...Sand People!
Dunno if you were around to hear the Boss's admonitions, but that kind of post could get you banished.
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:19pm |
With 94.67% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 409835 15.23
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1134953 42.17
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1122835 41.72
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:31pm |
re: #725 Tarkus289
As for the PUMAS, I don't know the details but I say thank you, they seemed passionate and sincere, and I don't care if it was 400 or 4 million votes, I appreciate them all.
Maybe we should welcome them into the Republican Party, given that the Democratic Party has screwed them over and that Hillary ain't gonna run no more.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:37pm |
re: #791 intifan
I'll tell you what happened in NC this year. Seventeen days of "register and vote on the same day" bullshit. Oh, that and the fact that early polling places were set up on several college campuses across NC. I would really like to know who/what/where/when/how/why that happened. My guess is --- ACORN!
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intifan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:51pm |
re: #770 realwest
Lee - what do you mean except for the Carolinas - last time I check, NC was slightly in the lead for McCain and SC was waaay in the lead for McCain!
It looks like the final results are in for NC with Obama up by about 9,000 votes. If we didn't have so many principled people here, McCain would've taken it. Bob Barr + Write-ins would have been more than enough to push a McCain victory through. Ah well...at least I have my religion and guns for now...
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faraway Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:59pm |
re: #808 Edouard
I fear that the extreme-left wackjob Democrats in Congress are going to try some kind of war crimes thing against Bush and Cheney and that no one will be able to stop them anymore.
You know, someone like Kucinich or Stark or Maxine Waters or Barbara Lee or Jim McDermott, someone like that.
The first 100 days, guaranteed.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:27pm |
re: #800 Oh no...Sand People!
Alright...let's see here.
Obahitler?
O'Hitler?
Hitler'O's?Dang...nothing really works with his name and Hitler..
NO!
Obama is bad enough by itself.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:40pm |
re: #808 Edouard
I fear that the extreme-left wackjob Democrats in Congress are going to try some kind of war crimes thing against Bush and Cheney and that no one will be able to stop them anymore..
If that happens it will be time for some strong action on conservative's part. MASSIVE (non violent) protests that shut the country down as an example.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:43pm |
re: #813 Moe Katz
Dunno if you were around to hear the Boss's admonitions, but that kind of post could get you banished.
Whoops. Internet connection has been sketchy off and on...Didn't get the memo!
oops.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:55pm |
re: #800 Oh no...Sand People!
Do we even have to go there? That's what the leftists and moonbats do. I for one will from here on in call him either Mr. President or Obama. We have to show the Democrats and liberals that we are made of better stuff then them. Let the President elect show the country and world what he stands for by his actions. We should not hound him by creating straw men, conspiracies or the like. He will be the leader of the free world on January 20, 2009. I pray that the good lord keeps him safe.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:55:01pm |
re: #787 Edouard
New Minnesota update:
Coleman 1,138,466
Franken 1,137,25494% precincts
Still unbelievably close.
Excellent quick updates here: http://elections.cbslocal.com/cbs/wcco/2 0081104/race11.shtml
/you know, Minnesota uses optically scanned "darken the ovals" ballots, this shouldn't be remotely this hard
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:55:41pm |
re: #822 BlueCanuck
Do we even have to go there? That's what the leftists and moonbats do. I for one will from here on in call him either Mr. President or Obama. We have to show the Democrats and liberals that we are made of better stuff then them. Let the President elect show the country and world what he stands for by his actions. We should not hound him by creating straw men, conspiracies or the like. He will be the leader of the free world on January 20, 2009. I pray that the good lord keeps
himus safe.
Agreed.
/fixed it for ya.
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onetwothree Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:55:45pm |
re: #692 Captkirk35
With all due respect, your comment about your vote being between you and the ballot box is a big part of the problem w/ our side these days. By doing this, all you do is allow the forces on the Left to get free reign on his/her belief system. We need to actively guide our kids, friends, and acquantances when possible towards the truth, and the reasons behind what drives our world, and which leaders/parties support what causes.
I don't know for sure if I'm doing this quote thing right... so, please go easy on me...
My oldest child is in first grade... he's 6 years old. I don't feel he's anywhere near old enough to understand or be involved in supporting a political candidate, which is why all I tell him that who you vote for is your own choice. And, why his support for "Rock" Obama really makes me mad, he's obviously heard this at school as DH and I have not any any political discussions in front of him. In the future I will do everything to instill in him (and his brothers) my beliefs. And part of that is that your vote is your own. You don't have to justify it to anyone, or tell anyone what is was.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:55:53pm |
re: #749 capitalist piglet
I don't know that I'd call him a pussy for standing there taking fist and steel toe boot in the nutt sack day in and day out for 8 yrs. But I would say it sure was stupid, to keep putting up with it like he had something to prove. They even had to sue him to get him to admit there were WMD's in Iraq.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:56:21pm |
re: #797 Dotcoman
Because Communist Socialism is Global, and it just won't work if we all aren't miserable.
Misery loves company... May have to move to Texas or Alaska so when they secede, I will be included.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:56:25pm |
re: #733 faraway
We need to look for groups to keep, not ways to divide.
Are PUMAs people that will return home to their home party? Or will they stay and fight with us in 2012?
I don't know the answer. Maybe others here who know more about PUMAs can answer.
It's going to depend on how far left Obama, Pelosi and Reid try to go, and how fast. Right now the PUMAs are disaffected Democrats who think their party screwed over their preferred candidate. If Obama performs as expected, they will realize that the Democrat Party has lurched so far to the left that they've been left completely behind. As Reagan said, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Party left me."
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:56:27pm |
re: #817 intifan
It looks like the final results are in for NC with Obama up by about 9,000 votes. If we didn't have so many principled people here, McCain would've taken it. Bob Barr + Write-ins would have been more than enough to push a McCain victory through. Ah well...at least I have my religion and guns for now...
Your guns will be taken away and Obama is now the incarnation of God on Earth.
I'm not kidding.
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Moe Katz Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:56:50pm |
Any political discussion will eventually degenerate to the point where someone is compared to the Fuhrer. This is called the Designated Hitler Rule.
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:56:54pm |
MISSOURI
99.7% of vote in
McCain leads by 2732 votes
10 precincts remaining--2 in St. Louis County, 8 in deep red Christian County
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:13pm |
re: #765 PAgirlinNC
What kills me is, there are like, a hundred socialist/communist countries in the world. If that is what they want, why don't they just freakin' move there!?!? Seriously. What will be so different about a socialist/communist America vs. a Cuba/Venezuela or any of the others? Nothing. So, leave us what our founding fathers wanted for us and move to a county that is more to your liking.
Sigh.
The goal of Communism is the same as the goal of Islam-world domination.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:16pm |
re: #822 BlueCanuck
We have to show the Democrats and liberals that we are made of better stuff then them. .
Uhh...why?
Who the f*** cares what they think?
Our goal should not be to make anyone like us, it is to protect the Constitution.
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:18pm |
re: #822 BlueCanuck
I pray that the good lord keeps him safe.
Except that Bill Ayers isn't "good," and he doesn't specialize in keeping people safe.
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redmirabai Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:22pm |
re: #765 PAgirlinNC
You can't loot a country that has nothing. You can't suck the middle class dry in a country that doesn't have one.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:22pm |
re: #736 nkca1
where is a good country to move to that supports conservative values?
The USA. Circa 1984.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:41pm |
My last words of the night:
01-20-13, and he's done.
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intifan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:44pm |
re: #816 PAgirlinNC
Oh believe me, I saw it first hand here on my campus. Shamelessly shilling for Obama, even this afternoon. I did laugh though, this county (despite their best efforts to sucker college students) went to McCain, even if the rest of the state didn't.
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Shakezula Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:55pm |
cnn is a bit ahead of the wcco site 96% in coleman hanging on to a bit over 1k vote lead
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:25pm |
re: #810 Fenway_Nation
One of the prarie provinces in Canada? Probably would get the most bang for your
buckloonie in Alberta...
Alberta's looking nice. And being out on the prairie would be grand. Plus you have the Stampede in Calgary to boot.
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LeePro Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:36pm |
re: #778 vegasjew
I can only hope that Obamas best trait of throwing people under the bus continues. I am hoping that he throws Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid under the bus.
He hasn't the common sense to do that, and his handlers will never allow it!
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:39pm |
re: #820 ErislDysnomia
If that happens it will be time for some strong action on conservative's part. MASSIVE (non violent) protests that shut the country down as an example.
Non-violent protests will be answered by state violence.
Standard operating procedure for practicing Marxists. Obama is the embodiment of the collective will. Defiance of the collective will is treason.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:45pm |
re: #801 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey
If Obama really wants to promote a bipartisan spirit, he will offer McCain the position of Secretary of Defense.
I know, it won't happen. But it would be cool.
You're right on both counts - it would be cool, but it won't happen. This is the "man" that just yesterday flipped off a Vietnam vet who had his arms broken and teeth knocked out by communists.
Then tonight, that Vietnam vet turned around and gave one of the most gracious concession speeches we've ever heard.
Not America's greatest moment.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:56pm |
re: #831 Palandine
MISSOURI
99.7% of vote in
McCain leads by 2732 votes
10 precincts remaining--2 in St. Louis County, 8 in deep red Christian County
Good deal.
/he conceded hours ago and for good reason
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:17pm |
re: #801 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey
I think he would be more inclined to give that post to Cindy Sheehan
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vegasjew Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:24pm |
sand people
remember Israel is the only nation that the Holy One,blessed is he
guarantees security for. Condi,was not always looking out for Israels best interests.
I have been to many an Aipac fund raiser.Rahm Emanuel may be Obama Chief of Staff and a big time Israel Supporter. Axelrod is a jew and like it or not 12 of the 13 US senators that are jewish are D's.
I would not be surprised that Mossad and other Israeli security agencies have quite a dossier on Obama, as a little protection. Nixon was a bigtime jew hater but the Israelis had the book on him ,I suggest you read Secret War against the Jews,and try not to worry so much.
PS that said McCain looked better in a kippa with his pal Lieberman than Obie ever will but McCain is history.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:40pm |
we have to take tonite,and use it to re-build.we are the ones who will decide the future,but only if we do not let setbacks derail us.we should not allow those unworthy of high office to acheive it based on family connections,this is a sure path the disaster,as we have seen tonite.
the dems have won tonite,but,we may have the oppurtunity to take back congress in two years.we should work to see that this time it works and sticks...
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Captkirk35 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:46pm |
re: #825 onetwothree
Sounds like you've got a good plan.
My poor 13 year old 8th grader took a beating over his support for McCain. He's got a lot of courage and I commended him for it, but he's gotta lay in the bed of his making. However, my kids are not immune to the drivel on the Left that gets shoved down is classmates throat. It critical not to let the hordes get to them before you have a chance to instill your value system.
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:52pm |
New update 95% reporting
Coleman 1,142,225
The Other Guy 1,140,860
Each new update, somehow Coleman hangs onto his tiny, tiny lead. Knock on wood.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:55pm |
re: #841 Shakezula
franken has just taken a 200 vote lead
'Cause I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and boy, have I conned a lot of f'ed up drones into voting for me!
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stuiec Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:00:22am |
re: #808 Edouard
I fear that the extreme-left wackjob Democrats in Congress are going to try some kind of war crimes thing against Bush and Cheney and that no one will be able to stop them anymore.
You know, someone like Kucinich or Stark or Maxine Waters or Barbara Lee or Jim McDermott, someone like that.
I fear that President Obama will make his first act in office the blanket pardon of Bush, Cheney, et al, for any war crimes. This will (a) make him look gracious, (b) shut down any potential contentiousness over the issue, and (c) make the Bush Administration look guilty of fictitious crimes -- and leave them with no avenue to prove their innocence.
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The Other Les Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:00:28am |
re: #830 Moe Katz
Any political discussion will eventually degenerate to the point where someone is compared to the Fuhrer. This is called the Designated Hitler Rule.
Someday this will be replaced by the Designated Obama Rule.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:00:46am |
re: #825 onetwothree
That's the other thing that needs to be fixed. Education. I don't know how many years ago Bill Ayers and the like started spouting "educational reform." So, education reform started happening. But, nobody actually questioned what KIND of reform they were going for... Well, now we know. It is time that Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, moderate Democrats and the like grow a set and take our country back. We have been complacent and pandering for too long and look what is has brought us.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:00:48am |
re: #833 ErislDysnomia
I don't care what they think. It's how we appear to our selves. If we lower ourselves down to there level it is pointless. We must rise up and fight, but fight on our terms. We must keep our moral compasses and words as they are. If we win by their rules, will we still respect ourselves in the post victory? Making hard choices is a given, but we musn't ever go down to their level. I will hold my head high, I will fight by my rules not theirs. Even if it means getting my ruddy ass kicked. I have my standards and I will keep them.
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ErislDysnomia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:00:59am |
re: #843 The Other Les
Non-violent protests will be answered by state violence.
That could start a civil war. I'm not sure an Obama gov't would risk that.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:05am |
re: #840 Quad Mocha Matti
Alberta's looking nice. And being out on the prairie would be grand. Plus you have the Stampede in Calgary to boot.
And 'The Battle For Alberta' between the Oilers and Flames is actually on my sports 'bucket list'.
With an 0bama white house, I'm thinking the loonie surpassing the greenback in value may not just be an abberation.
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LoFlyer Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:05am |
Mates, I am going to hang out here a little longer, it's nearly three on the east coast. But I have come to the conclusion that semi-auto weapons designated "assault-rifles" will be banned within six months under the benevolent Obama administration. Looked at 'me finances and had plenty of jack on hand to buy immediately at the loss of a much longed for ski-trip out west. I will discuss the options with me friendly neighbor who is a registered gun-dealer tomorrow and buy ASAP. The prices will only go up for the next six months mates!
/Sigh, I really wanted to ski this winter mates!
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:06am |
re: #800 Oh no...Sand People!
///
I was thinking along the lines of the Simpsons where Homer has the Monkey Paw and he gets shafted on his first 2 wishes...then on the third wish he wishes for the 'SURE THING'..a turkey sandwich. As he is eating it and attempting to savor it, he is all..lettuce, mustard, mayonaise, pickles...turkey...THE TURKEY IS DRY! Damn you MONKEY PAW!
(I forgot the sarc...sorry all...)
'Even the sarc doesn't make it acceptable...blah blah blah..'
Ok..fine. Geesh.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:08am |
re: #841 Shakezula
franken has just taken a 200 vote lead
Eeyore.
/Michael Barone already predicted a Norm win
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:10am |
Franken 1,150,091 42%
Coleman (Incumbent) 1,151,156 42%
Barkley 416,339 15%
96% reporting .
I cannot look. Les than 200 votes.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:40am |
re: #848 vegasjew
sand people
remember Israel is the only nation that the Holy One,blessed is he
guarantees security for..
Where the hell is that written? What do you think happened to the two temples? What happened to Masada?
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Edouard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:44am |
re: #841 Shakezula
franken has just taken a 200 vote lead
Yep. ***! Spoke too soon on the previous post
5% precincts still left to report.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:45am |
re: #599 jayzee
Market tanks is my prediction. Countries depending on us (like Israel) will take matters into their own hands before January. Oil goes back up and things hurt worse.
Less people will make over $250K and suddenly the tax increase will hit lower than the 120K Richardson promised.
Japan market has already lost 1000pt.s today post-election.
Get ready to TUMBLE!
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:52am |
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:02:03am |
re: #841 Shakezula
franken has just taken a 200 vote lead
Stuart Friggin' Smalley goes to Washington. This entire evening is a nightmare.
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Theodoric Squared Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:02:24am |
What's going to happen the first time the "One" wants to say no to the Pelosi/Reed meat grinder? He can't possibly deliver to even a fraction of all the groups he has made promises to. Winning an election is going to seem like being Prom King compared to actually having to
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:02:26am |
re: #731 arizona9
Totally OT: Michelle can't dress for sh*t. Sorry, guys. Had to say it.
ugly on the inside is usually reflected on the outside...
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:02:51am |
hardly eyoreeing, just reporting the facts ma'am
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:02:55am |
re: #862 calcajun
Franken 1,151,156 42%
Coleman (Incumbent) 1,150,091 42%
Barkley 416,339 15%96% reporting .
I cannot look. Less than 200 votes.
Ooops. Smalley is ahead now by less than 200 votes.
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AuntAcid Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:02:58am |
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re: #736 nkca1
where is a good country to move to that supports conservative values?
I'm going to Canada. My tunnel should be done by spring.
(dig silent, dig deep)
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ErislDysnomia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:03am |
re: #856 BlueCanuck
I don't care what they think. It's how we appear to our selves. If we lower ourselves down to there level it is pointless. We must rise up and fight, but fight on our terms. We must keep our moral compasses and words as they are. If we win by their rules, will we still respect ourselves in the post victory? Making hard choices is a given, but we musn't ever go down to their level. I will hold my head high, I will fight by my rules not theirs. Even if it means getting my ruddy ass kicked. I have my standards and I will keep them.
It's been said that if you don't plan to win, don't get into the fight.
I'm not saying we do anything illegal, but not be wuss's either.
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Palandine Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:08am |
re: #846 Killian Bundy
I know, I know, I just really, really want to be in a red state.
/it's better for the gloating when things go to hell
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freetoken Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:12am |
re: #848 vegasjew
sand people
remember Israel is the only nation that the Holy One,blessed is he
guarantees security for. Condi,was not always looking out for Israels best interests.
Nonsense, on several counts.
I would not be surprised that Mossad and other Israeli security agencies have quite a dossier on Obama, as a little protection. Nixon was a bigtime jew hater but the Israelis had the book on him ,I suggest you read Secret War against the Jews,and try not to worry so much.
This sounds like something better left to George Noory's radio show...
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:14am |
Well lizards, both I and the soon to be Mrs. astronmr20 are seriously considering a move to India once we are married. We already were thinking about it. Lots of opportunity in our respective fields and 8% yearly growth.
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SaneInMN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:18am |
With 95.01% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 410884 15.23
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1137916 42.17
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1126145 41.73
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:34am |
re: #848 vegasjew
sand people
remember Israel is the only nation that the Holy One,blessed is he
guarantees security for. Condi,was not always looking out for Israels best interests.
I have been to many an Aipac fund raiser.Rahm Emanuel may be Obama Chief of Staff and a big time Israel Supporter. Axelrod is a jew and like it or not 12 of the 13 US senators that are jewish are D's.
I would not be surprised that Mossad and other Israeli security agencies have quite a dossier on Obama, as a little protection. Nixon was a bigtime jew hater but the Israelis had the book on him ,I suggest you read Secret War against the Jews,and try not to worry so much.PS that said McCain looked better in a kippa with his pal Lieberman than Obie ever will but McCain is history.
You do know the LA Times has a tape on that very subject they aren't releasing in which 'O' shows how he REALLY thinks on the subject? I admire your optimism and 'hope'. Israel will need it.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:35am |
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ErislDysnomia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:04:07am |
re: #865 DistantThunder
Japan market has already lost 1000pt.s today post-election.
Get ready to TUMBLE!
what's that in % ?
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:04:28am |
re: #870 Shakezula
hardly eyoreeing, just reporting the facts ma'am
/well, report better facts with Franken losing
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Tasty Beverage Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:04:45am |
LGF is Minnesota-fest tonight. Which is cool, I hope that gnarled POS loses.
People, we're looking at a long two years. May the deity of your choice help us.
Take care, I'm out.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:04:50am |
re: #874 Palandine
I know, I know, I just really, really want to be in a red state.
/it's better for the gloating when things go to hell
At least my home county went red...
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:04:54am |
re: #848 vegasjew
Yeah, Jews make mistakes sometimes. The fact that there are a lot of Dem Jewish members of congress does not comfort me. Nixon supported Israel because of the importance Israel had as the only real ally in the ME. Times have changed. BO believes that the Arabs are only mad because of the "wrongs" Israel has inflicted on them. Otherwise they'd be peaceful-so sayeth his spiritual leader. It's a big problem for the US and for Israel.
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:04:57am |
re: #848 vegasjew
sand people
remember Israel is the only nation that the Holy One,blessed is he
guarantees security for. Condi,was not always looking out for Israels best interests.
I have been to many an Aipac fund raiser.Rahm Emanuel may be Obama Chief of Staff and a big time Israel Supporter. Axelrod is a jew and like it or not 12 of the 13 US senators that are jewish are D's.
I would not be surprised that Mossad and other Israeli security agencies have quite a dossier on Obama, as a little protection. Nixon was a bigtime jew hater but the Israelis had the book on him ,I suggest you read Secret War against the Jews,and try not to worry so much.PS that said McCain looked better in a kippa with his pal Lieberman than Obie ever will but McCain is history.
You can bet your ass Dubya helped out with that dossier.
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Quad Mocha Matti Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:05:09am |
Damn... Dino Rossi (R) 47 % - 674,445, Chris Gregoire (D) 53% - 755,275 with 48% of votes counted for WA Governor...UGH!
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:05:21am |
re: #838 intifan
Well, at least your county went McCain. I have had to witness Obama posters, ads, banners, shwag, shills and everything in between. It was mindboggling. Thanks Hamas for all of your donations! Appreciate it!
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leftover54 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:05:26am |
re: #19 neocon hippie
It took me approx. 6 paragraphs to write the EXACT same thing in a "congrats" e-mail sent to a Dem pal - couldn't let it go at that though, have been typing for several hours now, in detail, how it was "done" to us. You summed it up in one sentence ! I'm gonna copy and paste - hope you don't mind ! He'd never make it through mine. Nice job, couldn't have said it better myself LOL !
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Captkirk35 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:05:45am |
gotta work in the morning.. won't make it up to see the Coleman results.
Nighty night
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:05:51am |
re: #783 Shakezula
so now they are trotting out the socks for after the election...
/green smoke
2004 enrolled 101 posts. i call bullshit
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Intrepid Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:05:55am |
One thing I'm wondering...the dems in the Alaska legislature did quite a bit of damage to Sarah Palin's reputation with their "troopergate" bogus investigation, and now she's headed back there to serve the second half of her first term as Governor, with a still amazingly high approval rating.
And remember: the Alaskan political landscape is littered with the "bodies" of those who have opposed the 'Cuda.
Get ready, democrat kiddies in AK's politics: Momma's coming home, and she's not in a very good mood.
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ErislDysnomia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:05am |
re: #885 jayzee
Yeah, Jews make mistakes sometimes. The fact that there are a lot of Dem Jewish members of congress does not comfort me. Nixon supported Israel because of the importance Israel had as the only real ally in the ME. Times have changed. BO believes that the Arabs are only mad because of the "wrongs" Israel has inflicted on them. Otherwise they'd be peaceful-so sayeth his spiritual leader. It's a big problem for the US and for Israel.
Let's be plain.
Obama will throw Israel under the bus. Real soon.
Believe anything else and you are simply deluded.
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victor_yugo Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:06am |
re: #844 capitalist piglet
This is the "man" that just yesterday flipped off a Vietnam vet who had his arms broken and teeth knocked out by communists.
Yes, and the flipp-er was mentored by people who openly supported the Commie scum who were kicking out McCain's teeth and breaking his arms. They waged war against the United States, both from without and from within.
I stand by what I said two days ago.
Is it wrong to hope Dante's Inferno was on to something?
Oh, wait. Forget "hope." It's the tool of the Dark Side now.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:07am |
Tomorrow, I will likely take the day off. Will go to the garage where my car is being restored, and quietly work on rust-proofing the new floor pans and dismantling the engine bay.
I'll need the distraction and meditation.
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stuiec Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:19am |
re: #754 Florida Lady
You may find that in the matter of Federal elections, Federal voting laws put a big crimp in what you can get done at the state level. Like f'rinstance, right now it's possible for states to pass laws requiring voters to present ID, but Congress has the power (I believe) to pass a Federal law prohibiting that requirement in Federal elections.
Just sayin'.
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The Other Les Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:22am |
re: #857 ErislDysnomia
That could start a civil war. I'm not sure an Obama gov't would risk that.
The Leader is always correct. Therefore they will ignore any facts that contradict what the Leader believes. Thus they will start a civil war anyway.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:23am |
saxby in Georgia is holding on to his 50% with 98% in just got to hold a bit longer
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:34am |
re: #818 faraway
as lunchpail joe biden says"gird your loins!Gird your loins!"
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:43am |
re: #888 PAgirlinNC
Well, at least your county went McCain. I have had to witness Obama posters, ads, banners, shwag, shills and everything in between. It was mindboggling. Thanks Hamas for all of your donations! Appreciate it!
I had to endure it here at college, but when I went home to vote today, the almost total absence of "the one" was refreshing.
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SaneInMN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:53am |
With 95.28% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 411583 15.22
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1139724 42.16
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1128403 41.74
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:07:21am |
I have decided to start a business selling people my poop. As Obama has proven, shit sells.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:07:30am |
I think there are now more lazy people in the country than economically educated ones. It is that lack of economic IQ -that has done us is. Economics is often counterintuitive - and until we are teaching it more than we are teaching social justice - we will forever be in this position.
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:07:31am |
Shit.
Smalley is up by 1300 with 96% reporting. Any idea where the rest of the votes are coming in from?
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:08:11am |
Franken
1,152,048
42%
Coleman
(Incumbent)
1,150,728
42%
Barkley
416,565
15%
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:08:21am |
re: #887 Quad Mocha Matti
Damn... Dino Rossi (R) 47 % - 674,445, Chris Gregoire (D) 53% - 755,275 with 48% of votes counted for WA Governor...UGH!
It's been that way for a while...did they stop counting for the night or something?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:08:32am |
re: #868 Theodoric Squared
What's going to happen the first time the "One" wants to say no to the Pelosi/Reed meat grinder? He can't possibly deliver to even a fraction of all the groups he has made promises to. Winning an election is going to seem like being Prom King compared to actually having to
it's a small consolation, but i'm going to enjoy watching him squirm.
that could even be the new lizard hobby: create socks and send all sorts of emails demanding the most outrageous
that's a courses to the WH & Congress... make them do *really* stupid stuff, instead of just garden variety idiocy. %-)
i think that calls for a drink!
/CHEERS!
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JacksonTn Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:08:48am |
My whole life I was raised a yellow dog democrat. Does that make you think I am anti-American? it should not. My father was an original UDT/SEAL and my oldest brother was a corspman in Vietnam. Yes, second marriage by my mother. Can you be a democrat and be patriotic .. yes.
Early on during the primary, I kept blogging at the DNC blog. I asked them if they would investigate William Ayers. I asked if they would ask about the PLO connection. You know what happened ... my account was deleted.
I called many times to the DNC. I asked when they would vet Senator Obama. This was in February of 2008. When I asked about the PLO connection with Senator Obama I could tell there was a click on the phone line (oh, yeah, you are probably thinking I am a nut right about now) but I know that they knew ... way back then.
When I blogged at the DNC about the William Ayers thing I had people telling me I was a conspiracy nut. I called Digornio (sorry not sure about spelling) radio... I asked them to please talk about Ayers. That was during the primary. Digornio said maybe I was ahead of the curve. No, I was not ahead of the curve I was just an informed voter but still way ahead of most . I just wish the republicans would try to bring into the party people who were so fooled for so long.
We tried. We did our best. If you want to blame someone for not coming to the “party” maybe you need to talk to Peggy Noonan ... or whatever the hell her name is ...
We tried to put Country First... maybe we did not drag McCain across the finish line ... but I can say that I feel that I pulled him a whole lot further than Kathleen Parker ... whoever in the hell she is ...
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:08:58am |
re: #892 Intrepid
One thing I'm wondering...the dems in the Alaska legislature did quite a bit of damage to Sarah Palin's reputation with their "troopergate" bogus investigation, and now she's headed back there to serve the second half of her first term as Governor, with a still amazingly high approval rating.
And remember: the Alaskan political landscape is littered with the "bodies" of those who have opposed the 'Cuda.
Get ready, democrat kiddies in AK's politics: Momma's coming home, and she's not in a very good mood.
Alaska sounds like a great place to live. I think it is a beig reward for her to get to go back to her beautiful home, with her beautiful children, and govern her beautiful state. She was too good for DC. the cesspool.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:09:38am |
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freetoken Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:09:53am |
Obama's coat-tails here in California appear to have made a presence, but a weak one. The bond and many local tax increase propositions are winning, though some by small margins.
What is even more interesting is the turnout numbers in the counties. Alameda and Los Angeles county turnout numbers are not as high as expected, places where Obama's support ought to have been overwhelming (and indeed he won those easily, just that the turnout was not as great as expected.) OTOH, Obama is doing better than one would presume in places like San Diego county.
It's a strange electorate, out here in CA. The anti-abortion (parental notificatation) prop is going down to defeat, while the anti-gay-marriage prop is currently ahead. This is truly a mix-n-match-your-beliefs kind of place...
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:10:30am |
Well, at least I'll have another season of the caustic-yet-surprisngly-apolitical Venture Brothers to take solace in...
Seriously- they've been on the air for three seasons and I think have taken maybe two or three swipes at W or Republicans in general that whole time.
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Florida Lady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:10:43am |
re: #896 stuiec
You may find that in the matter of Federal elections, Federal voting laws put a big crimp in what you can get done at the state level. Like f'rinstance, right now it's possible for states to pass laws requiring voters to present ID, but Congress has the power (I believe) to pass a Federal law prohibiting that requirement in Federal elections.
Just sayin'.
Oh, well. Sounds like you know best. So why try? It's only the constitutional thing to do.
10th Amendment is sooo not cool.
/throws in the towel
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:10:49am |
Whatever happens, let's promise to keep tabs on Sarah Palin and her career here on LGF and elsewhere, please?
I'm fully hoping for her to run in 2012.
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:10:57am |
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:11:02am |
Norm picked up some votes, its still about 1300 between them, still 96% in
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:11:45am |
re: #895 astronmr20
Tomorrow, I will likely take the day off. Will go to the garage where my car is being restored, and quietly work on rust-proofing the new floor pans and dismantling the engine bay.
I'll need the distraction and meditation.
i may open the vault and clean everything...
i won't be needing anything soon, but why not be ready for when i do?
i find it very soothing. %-)
/side bar: we saw a 48 Caddy this weekend we were toying with buying to restore... not any more.
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stuiec Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:11:45am |
re: #765 PAgirlinNC
What kills me is, there are like, a hundred socialist/communist countries in the world. If that is what they want, why don't they just freakin' move there!?!? Seriously. What will be so different about a socialist/communist America vs. a Cuba/Venezuela or any of the others? Nothing. So, leave us what our founding fathers wanted for us and move to a county that is more to your liking.
Sigh.
Ummm...
... World Socialism has always run up against one impregnable obstacle: the United States of America.
Turning the USA is the cornerstone of the effort to establish World Socialism. I happen to think that's why Leftists seem to make common cause with Islamofascists who hate everything the Leftists hold dear: if the Islamofascists had been able to force the USA to its knees, that would have given the Leftists their opening. Oddly, it may be that the economic and political burden the USA bore in staying off its knees before the Islamofascist onslaught was enough to give the Leftists their chance.
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Quad Mocha Matti Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:11:48am |
OMG, I just realized, I have to get some sleep so I can work in a few hours - unlike all the moonbats who are gonna be having hangovers for days weeks.
Looks like I'm gonna have to bid you all adieu, haben Sie alle eine gute Nacht, on hyvää yötä, have as good a night as you can. I'll be around, and expect to see you all again soon.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:12:11am |
I'm throwing a secession; anybody want to come?
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:12:12am |
re: #900 intifan
Good for you. I am completely and totally surrounded by Obamabots. But, it is actually funny. These people voted for him thinking that they will never be affected by his $250,000 income limit. Unfortunately for them, its probably down to about $42,000. Between those I work with who make more than that and those college students that aspire to make more than that, I will have the opportunity to say "I told ya so" several times over the next four years. Granted, that is if I still have a job. Which, considering where I work, will be highly unlikely with The One's tax policy and the way it affects small businesses.
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:12:12am |
re: #917 Shakezula
Norm picked up some votes, its still about 1300 between them, still 96% in
But what is left to report? Where are those precincts?
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:12:24am |
Obama has just been the one to say - let me walk across the hot lava rocks barefoot. OK - we're watching.
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ErislDysnomia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:12:56am |
re: #919 stuiec
Ummm...
... World Socialism has always run up against one impregnable obstacle: the United States of America.
Turning the USA is the cornerstone of the effort to establish World Socialism. I happen to think that's why Leftists seem to make common cause with Islamofascists who hate everything the Leftists hold dear: if the Islamofascists had been able to force the USA to its knees, that would have given the Leftists their opening. Oddly, it may be that the economic and political burden the USA bore in staying off its knees before the Islamofascist onslaught was enough to give the Leftists their chance.
and just wait until the leftists meet the islamofascists. Won't that be pretty and nice...
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SaneInMN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:13:24am |
With 95.57% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 413629 15.22
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1145927 42.17
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1134310 41.74
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stuiec Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:13:24am |
re: #767 Rancher
True. Other culprits are the sub-prime mess, the Republican congress that spent like drunken sailors, and plain old greed on the part of the American proletariat. Had Bush been more of fiscal conservative this might have been avoided, or at least postponed, but the pendulum always swings one way then another. The left swing started in 2006.
I tie Bush to the spendthrift Republican Congress. He should have vetoed many more bills than he did, even at the risk of irritating Congress in wartime.
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:13:31am |
Now Smalley is up by 1400--still 96% reporting
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Intrepid Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:13:34am |
re: #874 Palandine
I know, I know, I just really, really want to be in a red state.
/it's better for the gloating when things go to hell
Move down here to Tennessee! We have no state income tax.
And we have two "Sales Tax Holidays", one in the spring and one in the fall, on back to school items and computers under $1200.
Plus, gas per gallon at the local quickie mart down the street today was $2.05.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:13:44am |
re: #921 intifan
I'm throwing a secession; anybody want to come?
Wait, is this going to be the same secession that Sarah Palin was a part of!
That SECESSIONIST!
/left
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:14:22am |
re: #906 Shakezula
Franken
1,152,048
42%
Coleman
(Incumbent)1,150,728
42%
Barkley416,565
15%
/you're not getting that from the horse's mouth, where?
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:14:41am |
re: #922 PAgirlinNC
And what with inflation the way it is, even if it stays at $250,000 it might not be too long before everyone is getting affected.
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:14:54am |
To think I went to Ukraine to meet girls and maybe bring one back here. Now why in the hell would any of them want to come live in the f*cking United Socialist States of America?
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vegasjew Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:14:55am |
I will be going to Israel for 16 days in March
so I must put my faith in our new president,with my life and the life of my family. will also look for some real estate while over there. You know when Jews get to fat and happy in a gentile nation ,sometimes the Holy one blessed is he,throws a little economic downturn their way and it is quickly time to blame the jooos. I have seen anti-semitic incidents go up 100 fold. I believe a strong Israel and a strong US jewish community working together is best but a night like this one has me dreaming for Israel.
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caligal Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:15:04am |
My condolences to the military that now has a commander in chief that does not respect them.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:15:06am |
So how many seats in the Senate are now Democrat?
54 is the last tally on Fox.
You know there are going to be at least 6 Repubs who sell out on a consistent basis...
This is going to be a zoo for the next 4 years...
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:15:16am |
thats thing, the precincts that haven come in yet are pretty divided, some have come back heavy for franken and some heavy for coleman with others a tossup. We're just gonna have to wait till the end.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:15:30am |
Wonder how the Democrats feel about the electoral college now seeing as they wanted it to go away the last few elections. Just curious.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:15:37am |
re: #919 stuiec
So, basically, to my semi-inebriated brain, we are going to get screwed from both sides...
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:15:57am |
re: #893 ErislDysnomia
Let's be plain.
Obama will throw Israel under the bus. Real soon.
Believe anything else and you are simply deluded.
Yeah I kinda got no doubt. I live near a very religious Jewish area. The rabbinic council sends out endorsements. Generally it says "X is a great friend, but y seems nice too. Vote for X". What was interesting was the endorsement of McCain. It said, the "gadolim" (world's greatest living rabbis) have urged everyone to vote for McCain. Period.
They usually don't get involved with elections. There's a real fear there.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:16:06am |
re: #857 ErislDysnomia
That could start a civil war. I'm not sure an Obama gov't would risk that.
i'm sure they would... for your own good, of course.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:16:09am |
re: #930 TheMatrix31
Wait, is this going to be the same secession that Sarah Palin was a part of!
That SECESSIONIST!
/left
No, I'm hoping for more of a 1770s-ish type bash.
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:16:41am |
re: #931 Killian Bundy
[Link: elections.cbslocal.com...]
and CNN. Both are reporting more than the MN Sec State's site.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:16:45am |
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:16:46am |
I'm pulling directly off cnn.com they seem to be updating in almost real time. btw its back to 1k dif
Franken
1,158,003
42%
Coleman
(Incumbent)
1,157,000
42%
Barkley
418,622
15%
96% precincts reporting
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restitutor orbis Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:17:01am |
Hey, at least we don't have to hear Bush is a Nazi, homophobe,racist,warmonger,zionist puppet,mysogonist who wants to wage racist wars on brown LGBTGLTGTP womyn and permanently take away their right to choose in a totalitarian fundamentalist theocracy...and oh yeah, Katrina!
Although Kommisar Olbermann and his f*g hag Rachel Maddow are going to be absolutely insufferable for the next few months
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:17:12am |
re: #922 PAgirlinNC
Good for you. I am completely and totally surrounded by Obamabots. But, it is actually funny. These people voted for him thinking that they will never be affected by his $250,000 income limit. Unfortunately for them, its probably down to about $42,000. Between those I work with who make more than that and those college students that aspire to make more than that, I will have the opportunity to say "I told ya so" several times over the next four years. Granted, that is if I still have a job. Which, considering where I work, will be highly unlikely with The One's tax policy and the way it affects small businesses.
Well, if nothing else, bloggers will have plenty of material to write about for the next two years. ;-/>
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:17:12am |
re: #933 Tigger2005
To think I went to Ukraine to meet girls and maybe bring one back here. Now why in the hell would any of them want to come live in the f*cking United Socialists
Statesof America?
Fixed that for you.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:17:32am |
re: #929 Intrepid
Move down here to Tennessee! We have no state income tax.
And we have two "Sales Tax Holidays", one in the spring and one in the fall, on back to school items and computers under $1200.
Plus, gas per gallon at the local quickie mart down the street today was $2.05.
You think that's a fair exchange for an infant mortality rate that's the third highest in the union, twice that of Massachusetts? Call me a commie if you like, doesn't bother me.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:17:40am |
Obama's the next Jimmy Carter...
And we already gave away the Panama canal.
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:17:55am |
re: #938 Outrider
Wonder how the Democrats feel about the electoral college now seeing as they wanted it to go away the last few elections. Just curious.
Well, Obama won the popular vote too.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:18:04am |
The irony is that after a loss like this we conservatives can refocus on our successful families and businesses, and our relatively peaceful communities. But when liberals lose, they only have their sad, resentful lives, their crime ridden neighborhoods, and their thuggish union bosses to return to. I'd become deranged too if I were them.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:18:18am |
Well, I am off to watch Madagascar 2 with the fam.
Good night.
Good luck.
Get your houses in order ASAP.
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:18:27am |
Per CNN, Smalley's lead is down to 1,003 votes--still 96% reporting
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:18:47am |
re: #943 calcajun
[Link: elections.cbslocal.com...]
and CNN. Both are reporting more than the MN Sec State's site.
/and you don't see a problem with that?
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:18:51am |
My brother was born on November 5th, 1980.
I just texted him saying "Happy Birthday", and told him I wished it was November 5th, 1980.
God Bless Ronald Reagan.
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Edouard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:18:51am |
New update.
Franken 1,158,003 42%
Coleman 1,157,000 42%
Barkley 418,622 15%
96% of precincts
With Franken + that numskull Barkley getting almost 60% combined -- how is it that Minnesota has so many silly & immature voters?
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:19:10am |
There is going to be a fire sale on guns and ammo until January. I picked up some ammo for deer season tonight, but I will definitely be buying some more now.
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:19:14am |
re: #816 PAgirlinNC
I'll tell you what happened in NC this year. Seventeen days of "register and vote on the same day" bullshit. Oh, that and the fact that early polling places were set up on several college campuses across NC. I would really like to know who/what/where/when/how/why that happened. My guess is --- ACORN!
Don't hold your breath. True journalism is dead and buried.
:’ [
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:19:32am |
re: #939 PAgirlinNC
So, basically, to my semi-inebriated brain, we are going to get screwed from both sides...
and no lube...
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:19:45am |
down to 950 separating smalley and camping gear. I really could use this one night as my silver lining.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:20:00am |
re: #951 Tigger2005
Well, Obama won the popular vote too.
I didn't see the final numbers, last I checked it was by a little under 2 million?
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caligal Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:20:02am |
re: #910 DistantThunder
yup, I often wondered why she would choose to join this fight when life was so good in AK. I hope she does some sweet revenge upon her return.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:20:41am |
re: #959 LeePro
Don't hold your breath. True journalism is dead and buried.
:’ [
No, it's dead and lying rotting in the town square. :/
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:20:45am |
re: #962 Outrider
I didn't see the final numbers, last I checked it was by a little under 2 million?
Last I heard it was rising ... around 5 million. But I'm just going by what I've read on LGF.
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:09am |
re: #817 intifan
It looks like the final results are in for NC with Obama up by about 9,000 votes. If we didn't have so many principled people here, McCain would've taken it. Bob Barr + Write-ins would have been more than enough to push a McCain victory through. Ah well...at least I have my religion and guns for now...
True. rw was probably about a coupla hours behind.
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stuiec Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:17am |
re: #778 vegasjew
I can only hope that Obamas best trait of throwing people under the bus continues. I am hoping that he throws Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid under the bus.
I dont necessarily think he will zoom to the left,he saw Clinton do it and 2 years later he was crippled.
You make the mistake of attributing a normal politician's motives to Obama.
He's not like Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton ran to feed his ego. (Same reason he serially abused the women around him.) And when his attempt to move the country to the left ran into resistance, he "triangulated" with the Republicans rather than stick to his ideology because he desperately wanted to be re-elected.
Barack Obama is more worrisome, because I don't see him charting his life course based on ego. I think he wanted high political office for the power it would give him to change the system. And I think that's exactly what he's going to do -- and as Walter Duranty once said about the Soviet Union under Stalin (another guy who changed the system), "you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs."
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:31am |
re: #932 intifan
Oh yeah, everyone is going to be affected. Especially if he gets his way with coal, etc. These idiots that voted for him have NO IDEA how our economy works. If it is going to cost more to produce electricity, they cost of ALL of the goods you purchase is going to go up. The most frustrating thing I have heard from the left regarding taxes is "well, businesses need to pay more taxes!" Uh, dumb ass. The business doesn't pay the taxes, technically. YOU DO! Taxes are considered an operating expense which is calculated into the price of the item you are purchasing. If any sum of the whole increases, so does the price of "the whole." And "the sums" include - raw materials, wages, insurance, rent, taxes, etc.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:34am |
re: #955 Killian Bundy
/and you don't see a problem with that?
The major news orgs have messengers in all the offices of the secs of state, they blackberry in real time to the network centers. the sec state website is probably being updated by one or 2 people who are busy beyond belief
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vegasjew Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:42am |
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SavannahWinslow Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:45am |
We have almost three months to draft documents to institute impeachment proceedings the day after the inauguration. May as well get started, there are so many crimes that it'll take awhile to pull it all together. As liberals love to claim, there is nothing more important than the rule of law, right? Right?
It was shocking to learn there are so many enemies in our midst, but who woulda thunk we'd actually see a reverse Civil War pulled off?
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:22:08am |
re: #913 Fenway_Nation
great show,brock sampson rules!
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:22:35am |
Well,
I thought I would comfort myself With Cheezburgers
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leftover54 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:22:54am |
re: #50 Racer X
What am I missing ? Started at the top again and read every post until that point and I have to say, they seemed very mild, nothing in the way of hateful or otherwise - maybe quite a few "obliterated" ? I'm confused !
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:22:57am |
re: #971 PAgirlinNC
Oh yeah, everyone is going to be affected. Especially if he gets his way with coal, etc. These idiots that voted for him have NO IDEA how our economy works. If it is going to cost more to produce electricity, they cost of ALL of the goods you purchase is going to go up. The most frustrating thing I have heard from the left regarding taxes is "well, businesses need to pay more taxes!" Uh, dumb ass. The business doesn't pay the taxes, technically. YOU DO! Taxes are considered an operating expense which is calculated into the price of the item you are purchasing. If any sum of the whole increases, so does the price of "the whole." And "the sums" include - raw materials, wages, insurance, rent, taxes, etc.
And even when this actually happens, don't expect them to understand it. Just expect them to hate greedy business even more, and tax them more.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:23:09am |
re: #969 Fiery Red XIII
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I actually pulled this out when they announced Obama. Trying to keep myself sane.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:23:35am |
re: #972 Shakezula
The major news orgs have messengers in all the offices of the secs of state, they blackberry in real time to the network centers. the sec state website is probably being updated by one or 2 people who are busy beyond belief
/well, when the Minnesota Secretary of State says it's over, I'll believe it
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:23:41am |
re: #952 DistantThunder
The irony is that after a loss like this we conservatives can refocus on our successful families and businesses, and our relatively peaceful communities. But when liberals lose, they only have their sad, resentful lives, their crime ridden neighborhoods, and their thuggish union bosses to return to. I'd become deranged too if I were them.
right up until they tax the businesses out of existence, indoctrinate your kids in school and destroy your communities through devisive government programs... then what, Mr. Sunny Day?
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:23:54am |
I'm nearly ready to concede...just waiting on the results from American Samoa
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Quad Mocha Matti Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:24:06am |
re: #907 capitalist piglet
Must be. NO SLEEP UNTIL DINO IS DECLARED THE WINNER! Oh, wait, I'd be the opposite of Rip Van Winkle if that were the case.
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:24:09am |
re: #974 SavannahWinslow
I'm glad I'm not the only one with the word "impeach" on my mind.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:24:41am |
re: #947 Outrider
Well, if nothing else, bloggers will have plenty of material to write about for the next two years. ;-/>
Until the Fairness Doctrine is enacted. Of course, if the MSM outlets are 24/7 for Libs, I really don't see how that can get enacted. Basic math says that we would have to add at least 1450 hours per week of conservative talk radio, etc. to balance the 24/7 liberal agenda of CNN, CNN headline news, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and also PBS and NPR...
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Oldasdirt Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:24:53am |
re: #921 intifan
I'm throwing a secession; anybody want to come?
Texas may be the place for that. Did not want it to happen,but it may now.
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StudSupreme Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:25:01am |
None of you have the slightest clue why The Messiah won.
Sure, teh media put him on a pedestal and shielded him from all attacks.
But the fact is that Obama appealed to a lot of people's VANITY, and played on their GUILT and FEARS.
EVERY FUCKING ONE of his supporters now think they have demonstrated that they are GOOD people with open, unbigoted minds, because THEY VOTED FOR A BLACK GUY. That was CENTRAL to their choice, despite the marvelously hilarious paradox that the very choice they made clearly demonstrates their racism.
They also believe they are oooh sooo sophisticated, because they voted for a guy that the rest of the world LOVES - especially the pantywaist effeminate skipping down the street and running thru fields of poppies and pansies socialist poofters of Western Europe.
And they also feel like they are NICER, more GENEROUS and MORE CARING people, because they voted for 'FREE' health care! Never mind that what they really did is vote to STEAL money from those who make it from sweat and sacrifice so that it could be given away by their High Priest Obama to those 'more deserving.'
And, finally, they VOTED AWAY THEIR FEAR AND INSECURITY, because Poppa Obama is going to go up to those nasty mean terrorists and scowl at them, scold them and shake his finger at them, telling them "Ooooh, you're such a naughty bunch of terrorists! Now stop what you're doing and play nice!" Yup, that's right - Daddy Obama will make THE BAD PEOPLE STOP!
We're in for a real shitstorm. Don't doubt it for a second. It will be EPIC, and teh very survival of our nation and western civilization is now on a razor's edge.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:25:08am |
re: #967 Tigger2005
Last I heard it was rising ... around 5 million. But I'm just going by what I've read on LGF.
jeez.
Well, George Bernard Shaw said, "Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." Guess it holds true this election eh?
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ErislDysnomia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:25:18am |
re: #935 caligal
My condolences to the military that now has a commander in chief that does not respect them.
My condolences to a commander in chief that does not have a military that respects him.
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LittleGreenFavre Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:26:01am |
re: #982 mahatma coat
I'm nearly ready to concede...just waiting on the results from American Samoa
LOL
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:26:20am |
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Quad Mocha Matti Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:26:21am |
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:26:22am |
It's late. I'm tired. It's 730 days till the mid-term elections. Night Lizards.
BTW, my feelings this evening are not unlike those expressed by Chuck Heston at the end of The Planet of the Apes.
Night.
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:26:59am |
re: #892 Intrepid
One thing I'm wondering...the dems in the Alaska legislature did quite a bit of damage to Sarah Palin's reputation with their "troopergate" bogus investigation, and now she's headed back there to serve the second half of her first term as Governor, with a still amazingly high approval rating.
And remember: the Alaskan political landscape is littered with the "bodies" of those who have opposed the 'Cuda.
Get ready, democrat kiddies in AK's politics: Momma's coming home, and she's not in a very good mood.
I heard on Fox News a little while ago that her approval rating in Alaska is down to 64% - still really high for a GOP governor, but 20 points down from where it was. Apparently the dems and independents in Alaska are making her pay for running with McCain... If I were them, I think I'd get out of the way!
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Inquisitive Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:00am |
Well folks this election has showed me one thing for sure...we are all suppose to be PC and accept everyone and everything...no matter what.
A man who sat in a church for 20 years...listening to the hate of America and the white people
A man who is friends with a person who wanted to do great harm to America and is sorry he did not do more
A man who wants to change America...because he thinks it is so bad
A man who has not supported and has said bad things about our troops
A man that voted to not give medical care to babies born alive during an partial birth abortion.
A man that wants to spread the wealth...we are now not to reward those that do good and work hard...but reward those that don't...because...we'll because this man just doesn't think it's fair.
A man with no experience running any thing...but running for election.
Well...I could go on and on...but I know all the readers here on LGF know all that I could continue to say...about this man...
that has now been elected to be the POTUS...
And not only have I learned a lot from this election but now I feel I am in the big old rabbit hole...because I have read so many here preach about all this and how bad this man was going to be for our country and now am reading...accept him, give him a chance...
Sorry... but all the things that were said before the election still holds true now...he is still the same person we were talking about on Nov. 3rd... and remember everyone...we still don't know every thing about this man...are we just suppose to accept that also...somethings or some people just can't be accepted just because we are told to do so...
But I will be a big enough person to say...
Congratulations to Senator/President Elect Obama, to Mrs. Obama, and to all his campaign staff. ...
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:09am |
re: #975 Boondock St. Bender
I've been more partial to the always over-the-top Dr. Orpheus
Dr Orpheus: Fetch me my cloak...
Triana: *groaning* Dad
Dr Orpheus: All right, fine. Fetch me my *Dramatic music* BLUUUE WINDBREAKER!
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Intrepid Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:18am |
re: #942 intifan
No, I'm hoping for more of a 1770s-ish type bash.
The hats were cooler, that's for sure. But the buckles on the shoes? Sooo not attractive.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:21am |
re: #974 SavannahWinslow
We have almost three months to draft documents to institute impeachment proceedings the day after the inauguration. May as well get started, there are so many crimes that it'll take awhile to pull it all together. As liberals love to claim, there is nothing more important than the rule of law, right? Right?
It was shocking to learn there are so many enemies in our midst, but who woulda thunk we'd actually see a reverse Civil War pulled off?
Your nic based on your location? Savannah?
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:28am |
Not that it matters but what color is New Mexico? I'm betting blue.
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SaneInMN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:34am |
With 96.17% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 415362 15.22
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1150261 42.16
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1139101 41.75
[Link: electionresults.sos.state.mn.us...]
BTW Where is CNN getting their numbers? Unless the MN Sec. of State is WAY off, their not even close.
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:40am |
re: #986 PAgirlinNC
Until the Fairness Doctrine is enacted. Of course, if the MSM outlets are 24/7 for Libs, I really don't see how that can get enacted. Basic math says that we would have to add at least 1450 hours per week of conservative talk radio, etc. to balance the 24/7 liberal agenda of CNN, CNN headline news, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and also PBS and NPR...
You're missing the obvious. When you have a lib running things, media won't get less liberal, only more. That way it's "fair and balanced".
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:27:56am |
under 700 seperating them now. We might have to have a recount either way.
Franken
1,159,061
42%
Coleman
(Incumbent)
1,158,225
42%
Barkley
419,086
15%
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:28:09am |
re: #992 PAgirlinNC
Can we at least get a cigarette?
No, cigarettes are bad for you. Anything that will impact your health is bad for you. The state will ensure that you remain healthy to pay the taxes that the poor and downtrodden need to survive.
/
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leftover54 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:28:23am |
re: #67 talon_262
Ahhh, I knew there had to be more to the story...
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:29:01am |
re: #987 Oldasdirt
Texas may be the place for that. Did not want it to happen,but it may now.
I'm there about half the year already - may have to move back permanently. Keep me posted ;)
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:29:07am |
re: #982 mahatma coat
I'm nearly ready to concede...just waiting on the results from American Samoa
i demand a total, by hand recount, in every precinct, with full vetting of every voter...
think *that* would make a difference?
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Pawn of the Oppressor Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:29:07am |
re: #1008 Shakezula
under 700 seperating them now. We might have to have a recount either way.
Franken1,159,061
42%
Coleman
(Incumbent)1,158,225
42%
Barkley419,086
15%
Excruciating. I had at least HOPED for Franken and Murtha losses.
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:29:26am |
96.17 % reporting Coleman up 11,000.
Cnn has completely differnt numbers. I don't get it.
re: #957 Edouard
New update.
Franken 1,158,003 42%
Coleman 1,157,000 42%
Barkley 418,622 15%96% of precincts
By the way, Bernie McGuirk is anchoring radio post mortem. Very entertaing..he celebrates the historic nature of the election results but has no respect for Obama who he describes as an ego maniac, a liar and an elitist..a man of low integrity.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:29:27am |
re: #986 PAgirlinNC
Until the Fairness Doctrine is enacted. Of course, if the MSM outlets are 24/7 for Libs, I really don't see how that can get enacted. Basic math says that we would have to add at least 1450 hours per week of conservative talk radio, etc. to balance the 24/7 liberal agenda of CNN, CNN headline news, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and also PBS and NPR...
The internet would be as tough to catch as a pirate radio station, of which you could expect to see plenty, I would guess.
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Edouard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:29:38am |
One of my favorites, Thaddeus McCotter has won reelection to the House from Michigan. We could use more principled conservatives like him on Capitol Hill, that's for damn sure.
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calcajun Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:29:45am |
Oops-make that 334--and shrinking. Again, per CNN
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:30:18am |
re: #992 PAgirlinNC
Can we at least get a cigarette?
without the lube, they're already be smoke... %-)
/white smoke
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:30:18am |
re: #995 GNIDAthe#seCond
The love for Obama by our enemies and allies alike ended tonight. He is now America and will be reviled.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:30:29am |
re: #1017 Edouard
One of my favorites, Thaddeus McCotter has won reelection to the House from Michigan. We could use more principled conservatives like him on Capitol Hill, that's for damn sure.
We could use more names like his in general.
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IslandLibertarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:30:45am |
For all the bleeding hearts:
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages." He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.
"Leave her alone," Jesus replied. " It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me." John 12:5-8
Yeah, I'm the TAXMAN...yeah the TAXMAN...
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:30:46am |
re: #987 Oldasdirt
Texas may be the place for that. Did not want it to happen,but it may now.
These words give me some hope for the future, "...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:30:47am |
no sner than i say that does it shrink even more 344 separation them
Franken
1,159,960
42%
Coleman
(Incumbent)
1,159,616
42%
Barkley
419,625
15%
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:31:25am |
re: #1020 rancher
The love for Obama by our enemies and allies alike ended tonight. He is now America and will be reviled.
This is dangerous. If our brother Obama feels that because he is black, he has no right to rule in America, it will be a big menace. This is a very dangerous syndrome, which will make him act more white than white. He will humiliate the blacks even more, and disrespect them.
WtF is he even talking about? ?
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:31:58am |
re: #1009 BlueCanuck
No, cigarettes are bad for you. Anything that will impact your health is bad for you. The state will ensure that you remain healthy to pay the taxes that the poor and downtrodden need to survive.
/
That mean Barry has quit?
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Cheese Eating Victory Monkey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:32:08am |
re: #893 ErislDysnomia
Let's be plain.
Obama will throw Israel under the bus. Real soon.
Believe anything else and you are simply deluded.
Israel has its own checks and balances. Likud is poised to win the February elections. Obama may have to work with Bibi Netanyahu, Benny Begin, and Nathan Sharansky.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:32:12am |
re: #1003 logboy
I know, I know. I forget my / tag.
It just boggles my mind as to where our country is now. I am 37 freakin' years old. I never really thought this day would come but, if it ever did, I thought I would have been REALLY old.
If I have to move back in with my mother because of the devasted economy that Obama brings, I'm going to be REALLY pissed. You all don't know my mother but, it would not be good...
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:32:53am |
I've been asleep (well semi passed out from the wine and the cold medicine) as I couldn't bear to watch BO's speech. Mac's was dignified, though..
Did BO even get un bustable majorities in the house and senate?
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:32:54am |
Minnesota Secretary of State rules.
/accept no substitute
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:33:01am |
re: #1020 rancher
The love for Obama by our enemies and allies alike ended tonight. He is now America and will be reviled.
Except now when someone in the middle east burns an effigy of 0 its considered a hate crime.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:33:04am |
re: #1029 PAgirlinNC
I know, I know. I forget my / tag.
It just boggles my mind as to where our country is now. I am 37 freakin' years old. I never really thought this day would come but, if it ever did, I thought I would have been REALLY old.
If I have to move back in with my mother because of the devasted economy that Obama brings, I'm going to be REALLY pissed. You all don't know my mother but, it would not be good...
I'm in Charlotte, and have a cheep room for rent.
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:33:24am |
re: #862 calcajun
Franken 1,150,091 42%
Coleman (Incumbent) 1,151,156 42%
Barkley 416,339 15%96% reporting .
I cannot look. Les than 200 votes.
Where are you looking?
My link says:
Al Franken (DFL) 1,159,960 42%
Norm Coleman (R) 1,159,616 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 419,625 15%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-05-2008, 02:31 AM Central Standard Time
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Sprite Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:33:25am |
re: #1020 rancher
I doubt that; in fact, I expect the opposite.
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harry catbox Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:33:51am |
We need to pray for PE Obama, that he will do what is right, and throw ALL the negatives from his past under the bus.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:34:07am |
re: #1009 BlueCanuck
No, cigarettes are bad for you. Anything that will impact your health is bad for you. The state will ensure that you remain healthy to pay the taxes that the poor and downtrodden need to survive.
/
Fuck. Can I at least get a shot of wheat grass juice with a side of Acai berry and 10 minutes in an oxygen bar?
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Boondock St. Bender Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:34:46am |
re: #998 Fenway_Nation
dr. orpheus is cool.but,when brock says
"look out doc!"then wrestles a mummy to the ground,beats the living hell out of it,then while urineating on it explains"you have to totally desicrate them or they'll keep coming back..."kinda' like a democrat...
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:07am |
re: #1029 PAgirlinNC
I know, I know. I forget my / tag.
It just boggles my mind as to where our country is now. I am 37 freakin' years old. I never really thought this day would come but, if it ever did, I thought I would have been REALLY old.
If I have to move back in with my mother because of the devasted economy that Obama brings, I'm going to be REALLY pissed. You all don't know my mother but, it would not be good...
Quit working and do nothing. The wealth will "come around".
Seriously, I feel you. There is no easy or clear path out of this mess.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:16am |
re: #1036 harry catbox
We need to pray for PE Obama, that he will do what is right, and throw ALL the negatives from his past under the bus.
You pray for him. I'll pray for us. You forgive him. I'll watch him.
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Edouard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:18am |
Another race to pull for is California District 4 for US Congress.
Tom McClintock leads there narrowly. Too close to call yet.
He would be a new addition to the House, and a great one. A brilliant fiscal conservative and God knows America needs a guy like that badly, with the Democrats getting set to run wild.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:19am |
re: #978 Tigger2005
And even when this actually happens, don't expect them to understand it. Just expect them to hate greedy business even more, and tax them more.
you read that book too, eh?
(pick one... %-)
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:23am |
Yep, Killian, that's what I'm watching. Would assume it to be more accurate.
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rabidfox Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:29am |
I keep seeing this about a fillibuster proof Senate. I'm not sure. There is no reason for Reid not to use the 'nuclear option.'
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:32am |
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:35:45am |
bad news, st louis and henepin counties are still only 85% in and they are both heavily dem counties (st louis is duluth and henipin is twin cities area.)
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:36:09am |
From the MN SoS just now:
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 421517 15.23
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1168055 42.20
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1154266 41.70
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:36:27am |
re: #1012 redc1c4
It certainly would but I wouldn't be holding my breath...btw,I just woke up and I'm scared to turn on the tv...PLEASE,someone tell me Johnny "run away" Murtha lost!
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:36:29am |
I'm seriously going to have to convince my parents to move out of CA...
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:37:32am |
re: #1028 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey
Israel has its own checks and balances. Likud is poised to win the February elections. Obama may have to work with Bibi Netanyahu, Benny Begin, and Nathan Sharansky.
Unless Kadima grows a set and does something spectacular. The count down starts.
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Salem Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:02am |
re: #1049 mahatma coat
It certainly would but I wouldn't be holding my breath...btw,I just woke up and I'm scared to turn on the tv...PLEASE,someone tell me Johnny "run away" Murtha lost!
Ok, he lost.
Well, actually he won but I wanted to be accommodating.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:04am |
re: #1044 arizona9
Yep, Killian, that's what I'm watching. Would assume it to be more accurate.
/they're the ones who have to certify it
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:12am |
re: #1016 Outrider
The internet would be as tough to catch as a pirate radio station, of which you could expect to see plenty, I would guess.
internet is easy to control, just ask China. pirate radio is childsplay to track down, for the most part, and any signal strong enough to cover a meaningful area requires serious logistical effort, which makes it non-trivial to hide.
they want to stifle speech, they can.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:31am |
re: #1038 PAgirlinNC
Fuck. Can I at least get a shot of wheat grass juice with a side of Acai berry and 10 minutes in an oxygen bar?
Hmmm, if you can afford that you must be rich. ;)
/more taxes for you.
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:35am |
re: #1049 mahatma coat
It certainly would but I wouldn't be holding my breath...btw,I just woke up and I'm scared to turn on the tv...PLEASE,someone tell me Johnny "run away" Murtha lost!
Shit I'm a salesman, I lie all the time. Murtha lost. Feel better?
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:40am |
re: #1052 caligal
Will we see rev. j. wright in the future?
ha. probably at the swearing in ceremony
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SaneInMN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:51am |
With 97.22% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 421517 15.23
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1168055 42.20
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1154266 41.70
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:38:55am |
re: #1049 mahatma coat
It certainly would but I wouldn't be holding my breath...btw,I just woke up and I'm scared to turn on the tv...PLEASE,someone tell me Johnny "run away" Murtha lost!
nope.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:39:10am |
coleman needs lot of help from stearn,wright and washington coumties
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:39:15am |
re: #1050 TheMatrix31
I'm seriously going to have to convince my parents to move out of CA...
We are approaching this all wrong. Instead of moving out of the blue states, we need to get more of our red friends to move in to the state. Why run away when you can overpower and annoy?
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:39:47am |
re: #1061 Outrider
ha. probably at the swearing in ceremony
It will be part of the national healing process. A process of reconciliation.
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caligal Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:40:16am |
re: #1042 Edouard
Yes, go Tom. Not in my area of Ca but a terrific guy. We, the country, need him.
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Edouard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:41:03am |
Approx 3% precincts left in Minn, and mostly results from Minneapolis & Duluth left to report with the Saturday Night Live goof still holding his slim lead. Not looking too good anymore to avert tragedy in the Gopher State.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:41:08am |
After eleven years of trying, my crusade to move to the US officially ended tonite.
Alberta welcomes all those who wish to work here.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:42:15am |
re: #1056 redc1c4
internet is easy to control, just ask China. pirate radio is childsplay to track down, for the most part, and any signal strong enough to cover a meaningful area requires serious logistical effort, which makes it non-tial to hide.
they want to stifle speech, they can.
The news gets through even in China. It always did even in Russia at it's worse.
You're right, Pirate radio stations can be located; if the state is willing to put the resources in play to find and stop them. I don't think we are heading directly into quite that sort of police state quite yet.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:42:22am |
WHERE IS THE REMAINING 2,78% OF THE MINNESOTA SENATE VOTE?
/this isn't rocket science
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:42:23am |
re: #1071 Badge of Kaffir Pride
After eleven years of trying, my crusade to move to the US officially ended tonite.
Alberta welcomes all those who wish to work here.
I hear Calgary is beautiful this time of year.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:42:57am |
re: #1036 harry catbox
We need to pray for PE Obama, that he will do what is right, and throw ALL the negatives from his past under the bus.
dreamer... what we see as negatives are what he revels in.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:43:18am |
re: #1040 logboy
I have to say, I read your post (earlier on this thread, I believe) and it broke my heart. That was the first thing that I thought of when Obama won - all of our military men and women who have sacrificed family, friends, life and limb for the freedom of our country. All for it to be put in the hands of someone who truly does not believe in this country. It does not mean much but - thank you. And I will do everything I can to make sure he does not get far in his "change" of America.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:43:22am |
well the sec state site has coleman with 7350 vote lead with 97.5% reporting. its gonna be close but i think we might pull this one out
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:43:53am |
re: #1066 redc1c4
only America lost...
Today will be the day marked as the day our Republic was lost and we started the serious trend to Euro-Socialism.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:44:31am |
re: #1074 logboy
I hear Calgary is beautiful this time of year.
It snowed tonite so... perspective, I suppose.
Need a sponsor?
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:44:56am |
re: #1078 Outrider
Today will be the day marked as the day our Republic was lost and we started the serious trend to Euro-Socialism.
The way the damage done during Carter is still felt today, so will it be 30 years from now.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:45:17am |
If i was a senator id stand on the floor and read the los angeles phonebook for 48 hours to filibuster the hell out of the the dems
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:45:49am |
97.51% (4027 of 4130) Last update was: 11/5/2008 2:39:31 AMIndependence DEAN BARKLEY 424229 15.20
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1174737 42.09
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1167388 41.83
/still don't see where you're getting asshole in the lead
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:45:55am |
re: #1059 BlueCanuck
Hmmm, if you can afford that you must be rich. ;)
/more taxes for you.
Damn it! I can't win. Oh wait... I get it. That's how it is supposed to be...
Sorry. I will be more "patriotic" now. Take 95% of my money! Those slack asses earned it! /
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Intrepid Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:46:03am |
Good news for our local elections: Mayor Danny Crosby of Coopertown lost tonight. He's the POS redneck who told his police force (all 4 of them) to ticket hispanics and soldiers (Fort Campbell is nearby) because the hispanics won't fight the ticket because of their immigration status and soldiers won't fight it because they'll be on duty. He made Coopertown, TN rated one of the AAA's worst speed traps.
Plus he had the city employees go out and work on a downed fence on his farm, and while they were on duty!
Glad he's gone! Go back to Georgia, Danny, you POS!
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:46:11am |
re: #1079 Badge of Kaffir Pride
Only if you have a place nearby to snowboard in the winter, and a place to log roll in the summer.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:46:12am |
re: #1078 Outrider
Today will be the day marked as the day our Republic was lost and we started the serious trend to Euro-Socialism.
Our Democratic-Republic received the fatal blow in April of 1865, but today our country has finally breathed its last.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:46:17am |
re: #1073 Killian Bundy
WHERE IS THE REMAINING 2,78% OF THE MINNESOTA SENATE VOTE?
/this isn't rocket science
waiting to see what the numbers have to be before they announce them...
why are you still here?
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:46:19am |
99 precincts to go in mn the 7k vote lead is still holding
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:46:38am |
re: #1065 logboy
We are approaching this all wrong. Instead of moving out of the blue states, we need to get more of our red friends to move in to the state. Why run away when you can overpower and annoy?
Because I don't want to live in a city that's so overrun by nutjobs and a prime candidate for a terror attack (God forbid). My family means everything to me, and the economic situation here is going to be terrible. We can barely afford to live here, yet we moved down here from Fresno after policies put in place by the Clinton administration screwed our business blue. It's time for US to change, and go somewhere we fit. For the sake of the little children in my family, at least. They need to grow up in an environment where family values are prevalent, where radicalism isn't praised, etc.
Fuck LA. The liberals here can shit over themselves for all I care.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:46:39am |
re: #1073 Killian Bundy
WHERE IS THE REMAINING 2,78% OF THE MINNESOTA SENATE VOTE?
/this isn't rocket science
RON PAUL!
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:47:03am |
re: #1061 Outrider
ha. probably at the swearing in ceremony
That would be where he swears an oath (upon what book, I wonder) to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America...right?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:47:24am |
re: #1071 Badge of Kaffir Pride
After eleven years of trying, my crusade to move to the US officially ended tonite.
Alberta welcomes all those who wish to work here.
but, since you won't welcome my guns, which i cling to, i guess i'll stay here where it's warm.
thanks anyway!
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:47:33am |
re: #1084 Intrepid
Good news for our local elections: Mayor Danny Crosby of Coopertown lost tonight. He's the POS redneck who told his police force (all 4 of them) to ticket hispanics and soldiers (Fort Campbell is nearby) because the hispanics won't fight the ticket because of their immigration status and soldiers won't fight it because they'll be on duty. He made Coopertown, TN rated one of the AAA's worst speed traps.
Plus he had the city employees go out and work on a downed fence on his farm, and while they were on duty!
Glad he's gone! Go back to Georgia, Danny, you POS!
My brother, while in the 101st Airborne has had to deal with just that. Myself, too, whenever I went to Campbell to visit him.
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JacksonTn Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:47:58am |
It's not a joke .. democrat versus republican ... no it is way more ...as I quote some of my sisters ...
I am really, really angry at all the dumbass little white hipsters who are waving their get-out-of-racism-free cards at the expense of women. People are inherently lazy, and they correctly identified a vote for Obama as the simplest way to slough off their implication in racism. F *ck them. However, politics being what it is, their chickens will come home to roost. I look forward to four delicious years of schadenfreude.
This election pitted minority against minority. Unfortunately, one had help and became a majority. Then they forgot where they came from.
This election pitted minority against minority. Unfortunately, one had help and became a majority. Then they forgot where they came from. (Yes, that was double ) it was not a mistake ...
I ask you ... who stood up for the woman ...
Will we stand up when they stone us for an alleged rape ... as they do not in Somalia ...Do we think we are immune from Sharia?
How long can we be fooled? ...They are patient ... we live in a country of instant gratification ...
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Oldasdirt Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:48:00am |
Hope I do not end up missing the America I grew up in,I wanted my grandaughter to see it.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:48:04am |
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:48:06am |
how the hell did the farmer's party back stuart smalley, he wouldn't know a hoe from his ass hole
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:48:51am |
re: #1081 Shakezula
If i was a senator id stand on the floor and read the los angeles phonebook for 48 hours to filibuster the hell out of the the dems
Copernicus... %-)
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:48:52am |
re: #1076 PAgirlinNC
I still don't get what is wrong with people. After everything we sacrificed, after everything we did, after all the soldiers who have given their lives, they elect a guy who is going to throw it all away? Mark my words, you are going to see a lot of Iraq vets going off the deep end. As I said earlier, we are the Vietnam Vets of the new millennium.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:49:03am |
re: #1092 redc1c4
but, since you won't welcome my guns, which i cling to, i guess i'll stay here where it's warm.
thanks anyway!
Alberta might be the last place you'd be able to have them.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:49:06am |
re: #1098 Shakezula
how the hell did the farmer's party back stuart smalley, he wouldn't know a hoe from his ass hole
It's Minnesota. They like to think of themselves as enlightened.
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stuiec Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:50:05am |
re: #925 ErislDysnomia
and just wait until the leftists meet the islamofascists. Won't that be pretty and nice...
Can you say "Chechnya"?
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:50:13am |
re: #1080 jayzee
The way the damage done during Carter is still felt today, so will it be 30 years from now.
I'm afraid you are right. Carter was only inept. Obama seriously wants the USA totally rebuilt to his philosophical beliefs, which are the opposite of our Republics core beliefs.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:50:55am |
re: #1085 logboy
Only if you have a place nearby to snowboard in the winter, and a place to log roll in the summer.
Place nearby to snowboard? You know this *is* Alberta, right? Ever hear of Banff and Lake Louise?
Log roll? Less so.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:51:38am |
re: #1091 LeePro
That would be where he swears an oath (upon what book, I wonder) to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America...right?
no, no, no... if Wright is there it will be the Constitution of Gawd Damn the United States of America, hence the title of "swearing in"...
/no smoke at all.
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:51:41am |
re: #1035 Sprite
We'll see, that was one of his selling points, vote Obama and the world will love us. But once the Middle East goes nuclear, the next intifada happens, war against Israel, global recession, etc., then we will see how much love is left.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:52:17am |
How long until Wright and his ilk are visiting the White House?
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:52:23am |
re: #1104 Outrider
I'm afraid you are right. Carter was only inept. Obama seriously wants the USA totally rebuilt to his philosophical beliefs, which are the opposite of our Republics core beliefs.
They're replaying his speech on Fox. A "new spirit of sacrifice". Fuck. I know he's not talking about the good kind. This guys a menace. Sorry.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:52:50am |
had the conservatives of MN not wasted their votes on the constitution party and libertarian party nominees, norm would have a 30k vote lead.
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:53:27am |
re: #1110 jayzee
They're replaying his speech on Fox. A "new spirit of sacrifice". Fuck. I know he's not talking about the good kind. This guys a menace. Sorry.
That's the "put on a sweater and go fuck yourselves" sacrifice we got from Jimmy Carter.
i know that kind.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:53:38am |
Been touring the right side of the 'net tonight. Plenty of wailing and a fair amount of craziness on boards that permit it. Glad LGF is home base.
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Intrepid Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:53:51am |
re: #1094 astronmr20
My brother, while in the 101st Airborne has had to deal with just that. Myself, too, whenever I went to Campbell to visit him.
A large number of people got caught there. He almost got kicked out a couple of years ago when an opposition group got a tremendous amount of support for a petition to oust him. The effort failed in the end and he got to serve out the rest of his term, but he was quite the embarrassment for our county. I'm glad he's out.
Coopertown's not exactly a thriving metropolis (about a couple thousand residents), but they take their little city government serious!
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Mike McDaniel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:54:11am |
FWIW, I just checked the Alaska Senate results. Ted Stevens (convicted on seven counts) is ahead far enough to make it mathematically impossible for the Dem challenger to win.
Which means Gov. Palin will get to appoint a successor. Looks like the Republicans will have either 42 or 43 Senators.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:54:21am |
cnn just jumped ahead of the sec state site and has given smalley a 2k vote lead
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:54:24am |
re: #1107 redc1c4
no, no, no... if Wright is there it will be the Constitution of Gawd Damn the United States of America, hence the title of "swearing in"...
/no smoke at all.
I have no doubt there will be a reconciliation of all those people "tossed under the bus" real quick. I bet ya.
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:54:31am |
re: #1108 rancher
We'll see, that was one of his selling points, vote Obama and the world will love us. But once the Middle East goes nuclear, the next intifada happens, war against Israel, global recession, etc., then we will see how much love is left.
And even though they hate us, who did those Euro douches come running to when they stopped laughing at our financial troubles as theirs became even worse. US! America is the solution not the problem.
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logboy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:54:36am |
Any bets there will be a ruckus over whether or not 0 puts his hand on the bible at the inauguration ceremony?
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:54:37am |
re: #1107 redc1c4
I thought it was the US of KKK...
I was thinking of drawing up a board game where you'd get a quote blaming the eeevil jooos or their American stooges for all the troubles of the world on a card- kind of like Trivial Pursuit- and the participants would have to guess if it was from Hamas or rev Wright.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:54:40am |
so, is there an auto new thread bot? we're getting into daytime in LA post count, and it's still an hour to fruitcup...
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:55:04am |
re: #1065 logboy
We are approaching this all wrong. Instead of moving out of the blue states, we need to get more of our red friends to move in to the state. Why run away when you can overpower and annoy?
Exactly! I split my time between TN and TX - both WAY red states. In fact, the TN GOP took back control of the state senate. Great for me and the other Republicans here, but we're not much help in the Great Blue Wilderness...
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astronmr20 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:55:10am |
re: #1120 logboy
Any bets there will be a ruckus over whether or not 0 puts his hand on the bible at the inauguration ceremony?
He will. Not an issue.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:55:21am |
re: #1100 logboy
It really boggles the mind. I was talking with someone who did two or three tours in Iraq. My friend who was with me (professes to be an independent voter but is against the war because of the trillion dollars it cost... I know, total BDS.) Anyhow, we were talking and I asked the guy "were there weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?" He said definitively "Yes." Yet, she continued to question, argue, cajole, whatever, with him for an hour. It pissed me off. I have an uncle who was in Vietnam. He has a tattoo on his leg that, 'til this day, he will not talk about. It just really pisses me off that the left wing nut jobs are so down on the military. Most don't even know someone who served. They think those who enlisted were forced into it. Little do they know the it is love of country that compelled most to serve.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:55:48am |
re: #1108 rancher
We'll see, that was one of his selling points, vote Obama and the world will love us. But once the Middle East goes nuclear, the next intifada happens, war against Israel, global recession, etc., then we will see how much love is left.
sounds like what i predicted to an email group i belong to... i get the notion the children voted for change.
/stupid shits.
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Edouard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:55:50am |
re: #1082 Killian Bundy
/still don't see where you're getting asshole in the lead
Check this link. Your vote count is way lower than the latest numbers.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:56:55am |
re: #1110 jayzee
I'm afraid you are right. Carter was only inept. Obama seriously wants the USA totally rebuilt to his philosophical beliefs, which are the opposite of our Republics core beliefs.
They're replaying his speech on Fox. A "new spirit of sacrifice". Fuck. I know he's not talking about the good kind. This guys a menace. Sorry.
I should have added Carter also did not seem to hate his own country as Obama seems to. I wonder if Michelle is proud of her country for the second time yet?
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:56:59am |
re: #1112 astronmr20
That's the "put on a sweater and go fuck yourselves" sacrifice we got from Jimmy Carter.
i know that kind.
You can wait on line for gas and pay triple the current rate for electricity while forsaking our troops and embracing enemies, while disregarding old faithful allies.
/YES WE CAN!
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JacksonTn Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:57:04am |
re: #1116 Mike McDaniel
FWIW, I just checked the Alaska Senate results. Ted Stevens (convicted on seven counts) is ahead far enough to make it mathematically impossible for the Dem challenger to win.
Which means Gov. Palin will get to appoint a successor. Looks like the Republicans will have either 42 or 43 Senators.
Well, good. I am pissed off that he was maybe dirty ... but at least it is one more vote that repubs can keep in the senate... I hope Landrieu lost ... but I am a native cajun so I guess that is bad for me to say ... whatever ... kick her to the curb...
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:57:25am |
re: #1120 logboy
Any bets there will be a ruckus over whether or not 0 puts his hand on the bible at the inauguration ceremony?
why would he bother? hell, he won't even salute the flag... i pity the troops, and i wonder what enlistment & retention is going to be like.
i'll laugh like hell if he has to bring back the draft.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:58:38am |
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:58:39am |
I kind of hope sarah palin does the old switcharoo with her lt governor, She can resign have the lt governor take over as governor and appoint her as senator.
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:59:01am |
re: #1131 JacksonTn
Well, good. I am pissed off that he was maybe dirty ... but at least it is one more vote that repubs can keep in the senate... I hope Landrieu lost ... but I am a native cajun so I guess that is bad for me to say ... whatever ... kick her to the curb...
Unfortunately, Landrieu won...
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:59:54am |
re: #1127 Edouard
Check this link. Your vote count is way lower than the latest numbers.
/my count is the only count that counts
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:00:03am |
re: #1132 redc1c4
i'll laugh like hell if he has to bring back the draft.
Maybe that's how he figured to get everyone working...
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:00:20am |
What happens to Iraq? Can we still loose this? Remember South Vietnam held even after we pulled our troops out. But when congress cut funding Saigon soon fell. Obama will cut funding for Iraq, big time.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:00:30am |
re: #1124 astronmr20
He will. Not an issue.
well, he'll put his hand on a book... what book that might be is open to debate elsewhere, especially since he doesn't seem to believe in much of anything.
my money is that it will be a first edition, autographed copy, of Prairie Fire...
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:00:48am |
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:01:04am |
re: #1132 redc1c4
why would he bother? hell, he won't even salute the flag... i pity the troops, and i wonder what enlistment & retention is going to be like.
i'll laugh like hell if he has to bring back the draft.
HAS TO bring back the draft. They want to. Here's a prediction. They bring back the draft, BUT give the option: Civil Force or Military. The revolution is about to begin. I hope I'm wrong.
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caligal Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:01:22am |
re: #1132 redc1c4
but, no, we will have our new national security service...
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SavannahWinslow Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:01:51am |
re: #988 StudSupreme
None of you have the slightest clue why The Messiah won...
And, finally, they VOTED AWAY THEIR FEAR AND INSECURITY, because Poppa Obama is going to go up to those nasty mean terrorists and scowl at them, scold them and shake his finger at them, telling them "Ooooh, you're such a naughty bunch of terrorists! Now stop what you're doing and play nice!" Yup, that's right - Daddy Obama will make THE BAD PEOPLE STOP!
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. Obama supporters don't hate terrorists -- foreign or domestic -- they love them! The whole point in electing Obama was to make it possible for terrorists to finish the job.
I am SO sad for our service members and the families of those we've lost. The flag at Arlington Cemetery should be flown at half mast tomorrow.
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:02:32am |
re: #1141 logboy
Not funny. You're talking to an Iraq Vet.
many of us are vets. I served when the draft was in place and we had many draftees. Not a good solution.
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:02:38am |
re: #1134 Shakezula
I kind of hope sarah palin does the old switcharoo with her lt governor, She can resign have the lt governor take over as governor and appoint her as senator.
Oh, that would be fantastic! She would annoy every Dem in the Senate and have a blast doing it! And since C-Span might be the only television allowed, we'd have something good to watch :)
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:02:46am |
re: #1141 logboy
Not funny. You're talking to an Iraq Vet.
We realize that but how else do you figure he's going to get anybody to enlist? He won't have to cut military spending; the military will do it for him.
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:02:51am |
re: #1119 jayzee
And even though they hate us, who did those Euro douches come running to when they stopped laughing at our financial troubles as theirs became even worse. US! America
iswas the solution not the problem.
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Oldasdirt Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:03:00am |
re: #1132 redc1c4
why would he bother? hell, he won't even salute the flag... i pity the troops, and i wonder what enlistment & retention is going to be like.
i'll laugh like hell if he has to bring back the draft.
Bring back the draft,,HELL,,the guy is going to start a whole new army!
His private army.
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:03:23am |
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:03:27am |
re: #1138 rancher
What happens to Iraq? Can we still loose this? Remember South Vietnam held even after we pulled our troops out. But when congress cut funding Saigon soon fell. Obama will cut funding for Iraq, big time.
give that man someone else's cigar!
and after we invade Pakistan...
i need more booze
(or to wake up and find out this was a nightmare. %-)
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:04:28am |
re: #1151 redc1c4
give that man someone else's cigar!
and after we invade Pakistan...
i need more booze
(or to wake up and find out this was a nightmare. %-)
I hear Clinton has a few of them left. Can't attest as to where they have been, but...
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caligal Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:05:20am |
re: #1146 TnTx13
good for AK and us, but too much fodder for SNL.
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SavannahWinslow Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:05:29am |
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SaneInMN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:05:47am |
With 98.28% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 427922 15.18
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1186498 42.09
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1179895 41.86
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:06:03am |
re: #1141 logboy
Not funny. You're talking to an Iraq Vet.
i know... 1983-2003 ARNG/USAR here... never made it to the sand box though, other than Irwin.
i wasn't really laughing, that was grunt humor at it's darkest.
/Harmony Church
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:06:17am |
re: #1083 PAgirlinNC
Damn it! I can't win. Oh wait... I get it. That's how it is supposed to be...
Sorry. I will be more "patriotic" now. Take 95% of my money! Those slack asses earned it! /
Of course you we can't win any more... this is no longer the land of opportunity (for anyone who wants to work). It's now the land of GIMME for those who don't!
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:06:49am |
Jesus, can anyone account for the discrepancies?
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:06:52am |
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:06:53am |
re: #1140 TnTx13
Uh-oh. Check this link to the Wall Street Journal's info - it's refreshed and up-to-date, and Stuart Smalley is ahead by over 2,000 votes now...
I trust the MN SoS much more than the MSM...roughly same # of precincts reporting, but wayyy different numbers:
Precincts Reporting: 98.28% (4059 of 4130) Last update was: 11/5/2008 3:04:19 AM
# US SENATOR
Totals Pct Graph
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 427922 15.18
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1186498 42.09
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1179895 41.86
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:06:58am |
Although I don't want to, I have the sick feeling I'm going to get to say, "I told you so" a lot over the next four years.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:07:00am |
re: #1153 Outrider
I hear Clinton has a few of them left. Can't attest as to where they have been, but...
a field expedient humidor... %-)
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:07:42am |
re: #1132 redc1c4
Actually, they (the libs) want to cut military spending by 25%. Of course, that 25% will go to the "civilian national force." Or whatever the hell it is that he called it.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:07:45am |
How...the hell...did McCain lose PA, OH, AND FL?
Good Lord.
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:08:55am |
re: #1167 TheMatrix31
How...the hell...did McCain lose PA, OH, AND FL?
Good Lord.
Cuz Lefty wants free stuff...
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:09:46am |
re: #1144 SavannahWinslow
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. Obama supporters don't hate terrorists -- foreign or domestic -- they love them! The whole point in electing Obama was to make it possible for terrorists to finish the job.
I am SO sad for our service members and the families of those we've lost. The flag at Arlington Cemetery should be flown at half mast tomorrow.
i'll either turn mine upside down or just leave it inside for a few years...
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:09:49am |
re: #1169 talon_262
Cuz Lefty wants free stuff...
yup. More folks that want more stuff than there were that wanted to earn what they get.
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intifan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:10:00am |
Well, goodnight all. I have a 7 AM EST wake up call...
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caligal Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:10:45am |
re: #1166 PAgirlinNC
gee, what did they used to call that force in Germany?
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:11:03am |
re: #1159 LeePro
Of course
youwe can't win any more... this is no longer the land of opportunity (for anyone who wants to work). It's now the land of GIMME for those who don't!
Boy it really pisses me off that I don't have that mentality. Know of any way I could get it before January 20th?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:11:10am |
re: #1164 intifan
Although I don't want to, I have the sick feeling I'm going to get to say, "I told you so" a lot over the next four years.
i'm going to rub noses in it every chance i get, and be as nasty as possible when i do...
/getting in touch with my inner moonbat %-)
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:11:15am |
re: #1167 TheMatrix31
very simply, they were taken in by the greatest ad campaign we've seen in years. Much like crystal pepsi or the arch delux, obama cant live up to the billing and will quickly fizzle out
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:11:15am |
Wo, Bernie McGuirk just said that Palin can appoint herself to take over Stephens' seat. Can this be true?
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:11:54am |
re: #1163 talon_262
I trust the MN SoS much more than the MSM...roughly same # of precincts reporting, but wayyy different numbers:
Precincts Reporting: 98.28% (4059 of 4130) Last update was: 11/5/2008 3:04:19 AM
# US SENATOR
Totals Pct Graph
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 427922 15.18
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1186498 42.09
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1179895 41.86
True - wonder how all these numbers get so distorted? Either way, bet there's a recount.
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:11:55am |
re: #1174 caligal
gee, what did they used to call that force in Germany?
Hitlerjugend (Hitler Youth)?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:12:00am |
re: #1167 TheMatrix31
How...the hell...did McCain lose PA, OH, AND FL?
Good Lord.
nope: Acorn & the MSM
never forgive, never forget.
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:12:02am |
Well...that was an educational experience, was it not?
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:12:13am |
What on earth have we done? Jayzuz.
Mornin folks.
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:12:45am |
re: #1107 redc1c4
no, no, no... if Wright is there it will be the Constitution of Gawd Damn the United States of America, hence the title of "swearing in"...
/no smoke at all.
Eggzackly! What I meant!
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:12:54am |
I was initially joking about certain MSM outlets helping themselves to that $700 billion bailout package, but look at the 52-week trends for stocks like the New York Times, McClatchey or Reuters. They're doing much worse than most financial stocks and I'm really worried that the press this cabal of arrogant, backstabbing quislings will be able to help themselves to that huge sum of money as a reward for their non-stop support for 0bama...
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:12:57am |
re: #1182 littleoldlady
Well...that was an educational experience, was it not?
/one way to put it...
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:13:11am |
re: #1182 littleoldlady
Well...that was an educational experience, was it not?
More educational than I'd like, but c'est la vie...
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:13:16am |
re: #1180 talon_262
Hitlerjugend (Hitler Youth)?
translated in to english? "MoveOn.org"
/white smoke
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:13:33am |
re: #1187 talon_262
More educational than I'd like, but c'est la vie...
Are we already speaking French?
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Outrider Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:13:49am |
re: #1176 redc1c4
i'm going to rub noses in it every chance i get, and be as nasty as possible when i do...
/getting in touch with my inner moonbat %-)
yup. every time he fulfills one of his promises, it will be blogged and heavily.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:14:13am |
re: #1184 LeePro
Eggzackly! What I meant!
GMTA!
even if you are smarter and better looking than i. %-)
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:14:54am |
re: #1189 rancher
Looks like I picked the wrong time to give up smoking pot.
i'm thinkig of starting again... think Obanal will provide that too?
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right_wing2 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:15:13am |
I'm torn.
I love America, but at the same time, if the Obamesiah..uhh. President-elect Obamessiah hoses things up completely (a la 'Carter II'), and if the Republicans get their act together over the next 4 years, then maybe there's a chance we can turn things around before the country goes completely down the sewer.
Now: Do I put my flag at half mast for the next 4 years or put it away before it's outlawed as offending someone?
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:15:15am |
re: #1190 TnTx13
Are we already speaking French?
Only while eating a fresh, hot croissant, followed by a few artful drags off my cigarette at some Paris cafe...NAAAHHH!
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landline Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:15:27am |
From Obama's victory speech:
"If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer,''
Obama and the Democrats spent their entire campaign saying that this country is not what it used to be and this is no longer the country he grew up in due to the last eight years of evil Bush. Now that he has won everything is honky dory again?
These liberals are so full of..
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Oldasdirt Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:15:55am |
We fought to save our political party,WE LOST. Now we have to fight to keep our constitution in tack.We can't afford to loose.
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:16:23am |
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:16:35am |
re: #1182 littleoldlady
No. This whole experience shows a distinct lack of education by the voting public. 0bama won't need re-education camps if 51% of the voting population is stupid, naiive or gullible enough to vote for him.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:16:56am |
re: #1166 PAgirlinNC
Actually, they (the libs) want to cut military spending by 25%. Of course, that 25% will go to the "civilian national force." Or whatever the hell it is that he called it.
I thought Obama's civilian blue shirts were supposed to be "as well-funded as the U.S. Military"...so they'll have to dig up a little more somewhere. But no worries..."the rich" will cough it up.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:17:00am |
re: #1189 rancher
Looks like I picked the wrong time to give up smoking pot.
/bummer dude, you can still find a discrete pot dealer?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:17:04am |
re: #1185 Fenway_Nation
I was initially joking about certain MSM outlets helping themselves to that $700 billion bailout package, but look at the 52-week trends for stocks like the New York Times, McClatchey or Reuters. They're doing much worse than most financial stocks and I'm really worried that
the pressthis cabal of arrogant, backstabbing quislings will be able to help themselves to that huge sum of money as a reward for their non-stop support for 0bama...
only if the banks want to buy them... the banks have no strings on what to do with the money, and right now it appears they are planning on buying other banks.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:17:26am |
Good morning littleoldlady, Welcome to the late night depression thread.
/cheer up things could be worse. . . .
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:17:47am |
Just saw an ad with firefighters running Congress - reminded me that the first thing the Dems want to pass is the union card check thing - no more secret ballot. And why stop with union elections?
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:17:55am |
Senator Sarah Palin. I like the sound of that!
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:18:07am |
Afraid I don't buy all the doom and gloom and re-education camps stuff I'm hearing here.As they say American politics is played between the 40 yard lines.Sure with this dems sweep it may now be the 40-35.(given that we haven't seen the right side of the field in a few decades ,thats bad enough)I firmly believe the american voting public would simply not stand for anything more extreme and that your still free enough to make your opinion heard...mind you I'm in europe so your welcome to tell me to fuck-off
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Cheese Eating Victory Monkey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:18:09am |
re: #1132 redc1c4
why would he bother? hell, he won't even salute the flag... i pity the troops, and i wonder what enlistment & retention is going to be like.
i'll laugh like hell if he has to bring back the draft.
College-age Obama fans should realize that a reinstated draft is perfectly congruent with the tradition of a left-wing nation state - not just the perks of public health care.
Heck - the Swiss, the Germans, and the Italians still draft. The French only stopped recently.
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freedomplow Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:18:11am |
Zero leadership with...
John Ensign was in charge of electing republican senators.
Tom Cole was in charge of electing republican congressman.
Put Mike Pence in charge of the republican house... Something you should have done years ago.
I congratulate Obama and share the pride that all African Americans have today.
Republicans must tell the American people who Lincoln was, who Reagan was and why they are great. Obama loves Lincoln, yet Republicans never tell the American people why he was a great President.
What happened this election was that you allowed liberals to beat the hell out of your confidence... Because you didn't stand up for your principals.
You let every death of American heroes whether it be in Iraq or Afghanistan to be used as a political weapon.
28,221,180 Iraqis are now free because of The United States.
32,738,376 Afghanis are now free because of The United States.
61 million more people in our world are now free because of our troops.
Never apologize or back away from our troops or their greatness.
60 Million.
One day in the future when my current obligations are no more... I will walk into Republican headquarters and demand a job. You need some guidance because you have none.
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Mike McDaniel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:18:57am |
MN, 98.45% of precincts reporting. Coleman up 6,235 votes.
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SouthAmericanWay Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:19:35am |
Well, I do wish to congratulate Senator McCain. I really do not think he could have done much better with the burden he had to carry as member of an incumbent party that, at this moment in history, was extremely unpopular.
I still believe that he would have won under the normal circumstances that existed until mid-September, when the incumbent-party factor had nearly disappeared. When Paulson and President Bush let Lehman Brothers collapse and, with it, precipitated the events of the following weeks, it was lost for McCain (and the polls accurately captured this trend). Panic became the issue of the day, and there was NOTHING McCain and Palin could do or say that could save this election.
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:20:26am |
re: #1210 Mike McDaniel
MN, 98.45% of precincts reporting. Coleman up 6,235 votes.
Thank goodness - if Stuart Smalley ends up in the Senate, I will be convinced that we are living in an alternate universe.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:20:32am |
re: #1195 right_wing2
I'm torn.
I love America, but at the same time, if the Obamesiah..uhh. President-elect Obamessiah hoses things up completely (a la 'Carter II'), and if the Republicans get their act together over the next 4 years, then maybe there's a chance we can turn things around before the country goes completely down the sewer.
Now: Do I put my flag at half mast for the next 4 years or put it away before it's outlawed as offending someone?
i have a great idea... well, it's an idea anyway: wash, dry and fold your flag and put on display inside your home. every day of the Obanal regime, fly only the POW/MIA flag. quiet, powerful and completely patriotic.
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SavannahWinslow Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:20:54am |
re: #1160 Outrider
Richmond Hill here, just South (5 miles) of Savannah. Straight Republican for the most part.
Then I'm most pleased to make your acquaintance! ; )
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:21:15am |
re: #1210 Mike McDaniel
MN, 98.45% of precincts reporting. Coleman up 6,235 votes.
/you missed a decimal point there
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:21:42am |
re: #1204 BlueCanuck
Good morning littleoldlady, Welcome to the late night depression thread.
/cheer up things could be worse. . . .
i cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.
optimism is it's own punishment.
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:22:02am |
Precincts Reporting: 98.55% (4070 of 4130) Last update was: 11/5/2008 3:19:21 AM
# US SENATOR
Totals Pct Graph
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 430020 15.18
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1192071 42.09
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1185719 41.86
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:22:16am |
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jayzee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:22:39am |
re: #1211 SouthAmericanWay
Well, I do wish to congratulate Senator McCain. I really do not think he could have done much better with the burden he had to carry as member of an incumbent party that, at this moment in history, was extremely unpopular.
I still believe that he would have won under the normal circumstances that existed until mid-September, when the incumbent-party factor had nearly disappeared. When Paulson and President Bush let Lehman Brothers collapse and, with it, precipitated the events of the following weeks, it was lost for McCain (and the polls accurately captured this trend). Panic became the issue of the day, and there was NOTHING McCain and Palin could do or say that could save this election.
eh-I think McCain fucked up the campaign. There was no way to be likable compared to Obama. He should have relentlessly attacked. Hillary did it half assed pulling punches when polls showed her dropping, but I think attacks would have eventually paid off. That's the only thing that may have worked IMO. But that's hindsight. Obama is slippery but you can't out likable him.
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:22:54am |
I'll throw it out there again...I just heard on the radio that Palin has the power to appoint herself to Stephen's Senate seat. Is this true?
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:23:25am |
re: #1207 mahatma coat
Afraid I don't buy all the doom and gloom and re-education camps stuff I'm hearing here.As they say American politics is played between the 40 yard lines.Sure with this dems sweep it may now be the 40-35.(given that we haven't seen the right side of the field in a few decades ,thats bad enough)I firmly believe the american voting public would simply not stand for anything more extreme and that your still free enough to make your opinion heard...mind you I'm in europe so your welcome to tell me to fuck-off
This guy can make the majority of the American people do anything he wants. They aren't worried about issues; a good share of his voters couldn't tell you a single policy proposal he's made. They love him. More than a few of them think he's some kind of god.
You think I'm kidding.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:23:39am |
re: #1213 redc1c4
I was thinking more along the lines of a Gadsden flag.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:24:11am |
re: #1222 arizona9
From what some lizards have said it's possible. Don't know why she would want to though.
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ledger1 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:25:17am |
Now all conservatives will know how it is to be the insurgency.
The Executive Office in the hands of hard left.
The Senate in the hands of the hard left.
The House in the hands of the hard left.
The Judiciary will soon be in the hands of the hard left.
As Chesty Puller once said: "So they've got us surrounded, good! Now we can fire in any direction…
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:25:26am |
re: #1222 arizona9
I'll throw it out there again...I just heard on the radio that Palin has the power to appoint herself to Stephen's Senate seat. Is this true?
I don't think she can do it directly , but what she can do is resign and have her lieutenant governor become governor and appoint her to the senate.
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:25:38am |
re: #1222 arizona9
I'll throw it out there again...I just heard on the radio that Palin has the power to appoint herself to Stephen's Senate seat. Is this true?
See below:
re: #1134 Shakezula
I kind of hope sarah palin does the old switcharoo with her lt governor, She can resign have the lt governor take over as governor and appoint her as senator.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:25:44am |
re: #1222 arizona9
I'll throw it out there again...I just heard on the radio that Palin has the power to appoint herself to Stephen's Senate seat. Is this true?
AFAIK, yes, one way or another... but why should she?
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:25:53am |
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SaneInMN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:25:59am |
With 98.55% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 430020 15.18
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1192071 42.09
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1185719 41.86
[Link: electionresults.sos.state.mn.us...]
Assuming Coleman's lead holds, take it to the bank that Franken will demand a recount, regardless of whether it is mandated by state law or not. And given that the Dem's are involved in fraudulent voting far more than Republicans, I imagine some of those double-dipping
Franken votes may get tossed.
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:26:01am |
re: #1200 Fenway_Nation
Fenway,
We have just seen the greatest marketing campaign in the history of the world. Even putting aside all the bad stuff about Obama that we know here at LGF, somehow people were completely convinced that a man who has spent his entire political career running for office is capable of "leadership".
Two things:
1. I'm going back into advertising. How can I fail?
2. He really doesn't have four years of his so-called "leadership". There is no way given the current economy that he can even deliver on even 10% of his promises. By the midterm election (when the people who voted for him don't realize how important it is, and given the brilliance of our electorate) the few of us who still can think will come out in droves (finally, maybe, hopefully) and change congress.
I am going to miss the feelings about America that I've had, lo these many years. I don't think that I'll ever feel the same about my country...
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zionausi Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:27:01am |
In 1962 Robert Kennedy said;
"The Irish were not wanted here. Now an Irish Catholic is President of the United States. There is no question about it, in the next forty years a Negro can achieve the same position."
But does it have to be this one?!?!
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:27:25am |
re: #1192 redc1c4
GMTA!
even if you are smarter and better looking than i. %-)
WOW!
Hey, everybody! { { {redc1c4} } } is a sweet cuddly teddy bear!
;D
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:27:51am |
re: #1234 zionausi
In 1962 Robert Kennedy said;
"The Irish were not wanted here. Now an Irish Catholic is President of the United States. There is no question about it, in the next forty years a Negro can achieve the same position."
But does it have to be this one?!?!
Remember, people like Condi Rice, Michael Steele, et al, are not really black.
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:28:27am |
re: #1201 capitalist piglet
I've seen his preliminary picks for the cabinet. Way to bring 'Change' to Washington, BO! Putz.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:28:45am |
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:29:30am |
re: #1224 Fenway_Nation
I was thinking more along the lines of a Gadsden flag.
yes, but the POW/MIA is already mainstream and if you think about the symbol from our POV, more appropriate, but less overtly threatening, so it's harder to dismiss out of hand. plus it's readily available, and they can't disappear it, since it's required for government buildings...
PSYOPS!
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zionausi Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:29:47am |
re: #1236 TnTx13
None of them are president of the United States of America or leaders of the free world.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:29:59am |
re: #1235 LeePro
He may be a bit of a crank, but at least he's all ours. ;)
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JacksonTn Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:30:03am |
Oh, Obama, so use to doing thints on his timetable . all those photo ops ... all those canned speeches ... What are you going to do when they really come for us ...and you know they will come for us ... either by Israel or direct ..
I guess you will say ... we need to sit down and have a talk...
Kinda like ... duck ... duck ... goose .. YOU ARE IT ...
You are so unqualified .. you know it and you know we know it ...
The only thing left to say is Gd help us Israel ...
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SouthAmericanWay Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:30:14am |
re: #1221 jayzee
eh-I think McCain fucked up the campaign. There was no way to be likable compared to Obama. He should have relentlessly attacked. Hillary did it half assed pulling punches when polls showed her dropping, but I think attacks would have eventually paid off. That's the only thing that may have worked IMO. But that's hindsight. Obama is slippery but you can't out likable him.
I mostly agree - but I do believe that McCain's team thought they could win without such attacks. And they could, because the circumstances were different before the financial panic. After four-five weeks of relentless panic, attacks would have seemed desperate to all those voters in the middle - as the attacks on Ayers, which were released in early October, probably seemed. My guess is, if anyone could have foreseen the 1929-conditions which would dominate from mid-September to nearly Election Day, attacks would have begun in July. Anyway, considering the media environment, and the financial panic, we should be amazed that the result was far from that of 1932.
We, those who are concerned about the essence and safety of America, are still almost half of the country. It could be worse. This is not the beginning of a new FDR-era of decades-long liberal domination: there are ways out.
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:30:15am |
I'd rather be a US Senator...more power, higher profile. More money, too, I think.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:30:32am |
re: #1227 ledger1
Now all conservatives will know how it is to be the insurgency.
The Executive Office in the hands of hard left.
The Senate in the hands of the hard left.
The House in the hands of the hard left.
The Judiciary will soon be in the hands of the hard left.As Chesty Puller once said: "So they've got us surrounded, good! Now we can fire in any direction…
and when they surround you?
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right_wing2 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:32:13am |
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:32:31am |
re: #1232 SaneInMN
With 98.55% Reporting...
Independence DEAN BARKLEY 430020 15.18
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1192071 42.09
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1185719 41.86[Link: electionresults.sos.state.mn.us...]
Assuming Coleman's lead holds, take it to the bank that Franken will demand a recount, regardless of whether it is mandated by state law or not. And given that the Dem's are involved in fraudulent voting far more than Republicans, I imagine some of those double-dipping
Franken votes may get tossed.
/these margins and it'll be mandated by law, too close, keep it accurate
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:32:41am |
re: #1207 mahatma coat
It won't be as bad as we fear but it will be bad. Europe will suffer more than us, the Middle East will suffer more than anyone.
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:32:47am |
re: #1241 zionausi
None of them are president of the United States of America or leaders of the free world.
I know - I meant that were they to run for president, it wouldn't be considered "legit," as they are conservatives. Hope that makes sense :)
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:32:51am |
re: #1235 LeePro
WOW!
Hey, everybody! { { {redc1c4} } } is a sweet cuddly teddy bear!
;D
and now i'm off to commit suicide... in the fruitcup machine so that all future fruicups will be tainted blessed with my presence.
/serves you all right.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:33:16am |
re: #1244 SouthAmericanWay
I mostly agree - but I do believe that McCain's team thought they could win without such attacks. And they could, because the circumstances were different before the financial panic. After four-five weeks of relentless panic, attacks would have seemed desperate to all those voters in the middle - as the attacks on Ayers, which were released in early October, probably seemed. My guess is, if anyone could have foreseen the 1929-conditions which would dominate from mid-September to nearly Election Day, attacks would have begun in July. Anyway, considering the media environment, and the financial panic, we should be amazed that the result was far from that of 1932.
We, those who are concerned about the essence and safety of America, are still almost half of the country. It could be worse. This is not the beginning of a new FDR-era of decades-long liberal domination: there are ways out.
Why the hell...did they not relentlessly attack the fact that an Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumvirate would be DEVASTATING? Why did they not produce the trail of how the economic crisis began and who was at fault? Why was it left to fucking YouTube to get the message out?
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right_wing2 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:33:23am |
re: #1243 JacksonTn
Oh, Obama, so use to doing thints on his timetable . all those photo ops ... all those canned speeches ... What are you going to do when they really come for us ...and you know they will come for us ... either by Israel or direct ..
I guess you will say ... we need to sit down and have a talk...Kinda like ... duck ... duck ... goose .. YOU ARE IT ...
You are so unqualified .. you know it and you know we know it ...
The only thing left to say is Gd help us Israel ...
G-d help Israel, the US, and the rest of the non-Islamized world
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:34:44am |
its in Palin's best interest to be in the senate. In alaska she can be a big fish in a small pond and the public will forget her ( we have short memories) in the senate she can play attack dog and muckraker, a job she does with such ease and charm. We'll stay in the national spotlight and can position herself for a 2012 run.
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LeePro Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:35:17am |
re: #1242 BlueCanuck
He may be a bit of a crank, but at least he's all ours. ;)
This is true, and I, for one, am glad!
Good night, {Blue}
...and {red}
...and {Intrepid}
...and {JacksonTN}
...and {littleoldlady} — love ya, lady. Still want to visit some day!
...and {whoever I missed}
Wish me no nightmares — one's enough for this night!
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:35:37am |
re: #1242 BlueCanuck
He may be a bit of a crank, but at least he's all ours. ;)
until i get banned... %-)
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zionausi Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:35:48am |
I already don't see America the same. I'm used to supporting Bush. Bush's presidency was exciting. I liked the America which didn't care what anybody else thought and i liked defending it from America-bashers . . .
God bless America. It ain't perfect. Theres always room for improvement. It doesn't need "change". It needs energy and revitalisation. I want the old America back.
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:36:01am |
re: #1255 Shakezula
its in Palin's best interest to be in the senate. In alaska she can be a big fish in a small pond and the public will forget her ( we have short memories) in the senate she can play attack dog and muckraker, a job she does with such ease and charm. We'll stay in the national spotlight and can position herself for a 2012 run.
Exactly. And, I relish the thought of her there with Hillary. Oh, Bachman won? Just heard that! Must have missed it in the excitement.
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stevieray Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:36:30am |
re: #1222 arizona9
I'll throw it out there again...I just heard on the radio that Palin has the power to appoint herself to Stephen's Senate seat. Is this true?
Yes, but he'd have to resign first... and why would he?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:37:14am |
re: #1247 right_wing2
Anyone SANE 2012?
Any CONSERVATIVE 2012?:)
redc1c4 2012
my background is cleaner than Obama's...
(catch slogan, don'tcha think? %-)
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:37:21am |
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:37:26am |
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right_wing2 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:37:47am |
If I didn't think my car would get destroyed, I'd put a sign in my back window:
Barack Obama is the head of a kakistocracy
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:38:10am |
re: #1262 redc1c4
That isn't saying much actually. Knowing what Obama has in his background . . .
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Gitarzan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:38:11am |
re: #1260 stevieray
Yes, but he'd have to resign first... and why would he?
Probably because it's kind of hard to perform a Senator's duties from the hoosegow...
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:38:29am |
re: #1249 rancher
It won't be as bad as we fear but it will be bad. Europe will suffer more than us, the Middle East will suffer more than anyone.
"G*d's will"...
(for "chosen people" he sure hates the Arabs & Jews a lot. %-)
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:40:16am |
re: #1260 stevieray
he would resign to not go through being thrown out of the senate. The last thing the repubs need now is an impeachment trial in the senate. it would give the rest of congress trial fever. Stevens is an old man, he can be talk out by the rest of the party for the good of the party.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:40:33am |
re: #1234 zionausi
In 1962 Robert Kennedy said;
"The Irish were not wanted here. Now an Irish Catholic is President of the United States. There is no question about it, in the next forty years a Negro can achieve the same position."
But does it have to be this one?!?!
One with a buddy who dedicated a book to Sirhan Sirhan, on top of it.
Terrible irony.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:40:41am |
re: #1266 BlueCanuck
That isn't saying much actually. Knowing what Obama has in his background . . .
kinda my point... %-)
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:41:36am |
re: #1269 Shakezula
he would resign to not go through being thrown out of the senate. The last thing the repubs need now is an impeachment trial in the senate. it would give the rest of congress trial fever. Stevens is an old man, he can be talk out by the rest of the party for the good of the party.
God, if that would work out and she wanted it, that would be a nice silver lining to this.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:43:12am |
this Mn election might go down as the closest ever. which in case anyone is interested was won by a republican
The closest election in Senate history was decided on September 16, 1975. The 1974 New Hampshire race for an open seat pitted Republican Louis Wyman against Democrat John Durkin.
Although Wyman enjoyed a lead during the campaign, the Watergate scandals and the August 1974 resignation of President Richard Nixon made it a tough year to run as a Republican. On election day, Wyman barely won with a margin of just 355 votes.
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freetoken Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:44:57am |
re: #1233 littleoldlady
I am going to miss the feelings about America that I've had, lo these many years. I don't think that I'll ever feel the same about my country...
That seems a bit too doomer-ish for you, LoL...
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stevieray Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:46:03am |
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:46:15am |
Must run. Thought i could pull an all-nighter but apparently not. Need to wake up early to call in sick...
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:46:16am |
Here's an idea: Todd Palin for US Senate? (H/T Ace)
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:46:46am |
Yes, yes! Let's not forget Todd. One hot Eskimo.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:49:08am |
re: #1276 freetoken
That seems a bit too doomer-ish for you, LoL...
i can see her point, and even agree with it... i sent an email, which i won't bore you with to a circle of friends tonight, simply entitled "we're fucked".
i'm definitely going with the POW flag thing... i just need to figure out how to make it viral, especially since all the noble types, who got us beat this time, will whine about us being "just like them"...
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:49:17am |
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:49:41am |
Red, post it! I'd love to post it on my Facebook.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:49:43am |
re: #1278 PAgirlinNC
Must run. Thought i could pull an all-nighter but apparently not. Need to wake up early to call in sick...
you go!
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:49:51am |
re: #1249 rancher
Agree completely.Its his foreign policy that scares me.I do believe the electorate will not abide anything ayerswrightlike domestically.But naivete and ineptitude in foriegn policy endangers the whole world.As bad as his associates are ahmanutjob is ten times worse
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right_wing2 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:50:01am |
My predictions for the state of the US by 2012
Inflation- 11%
Gas price: $6/gallon
Unemployment: 8.5%
1st Amendment: Shredded- no speech which criticizes the Obamessiah
2nd Amendment: Hunting/target weapons only. Handguns outlawed Massive, worldwide terror attacks
Interest rates: 12-14%
Abortion: 20% increase
US sovereignty: Constantly seeking UN approval for all US actions, even at home
Tax rates: top tax rate of at least 50%, dropping to 35-40% for the middle class. Anyone making under 35k will be untaxed. Payroll taxes will be imposed on all income, rates will go up on anyone making over 100k to at least 20%, and eliminated for anyone making under 35k.
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:50:21am |
re: #1276 freetoken
That seems a bit too doomer-ish for you, LoL...
Does it? I was banking on the American people. I was wrong to do that.
/oh well. it's every man for himself now.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:51:24am |
re: #1280 arizona9
But gosh...isn't he some sort of sepratist?
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:52:25am |
the cnn numbers make no sense, they have coleman with a 300 vote lead but with almost the smae number of votes as the sec state's site. While franken having 8000 more votes on cnn then on the sec state sites. now i would get it if cnn was simply ahead time wise, but the idea of coleman getting nearly shut out in the last 8000 reported votes is impossible. something is fishy here
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:53:52am |
and im the guy that called the michael steel network call retraction two years ago base on precinct numbers
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:54:02am |
re: #1283 TheMatrix31
Red, post it! I'd love to post it on my Facebook.
well, it'd likely run afoul of Charles's directives here, and it was just a spur of the moment rant anyway, not very well fleshed out... if you insist, add "at sbcglobal DOT net" to my nick and i'll see what i can do for ya... i figure my pathetic blog needs a post anyway.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:56:26am |
early voting and same day registration/voting are an invitation to fraud
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:56:40am |
Nader comment about Obama questions whether he will be Uncle Sam or Uncle Tom. Oy.
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zionausi Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:58:00am |
re: #1294 mahatma coat
Maybe I'm cynical but in a democracy the voters don't decide who wins an election. The people who count the votes do.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:58:45am |
Good morning, people.
I agree with Michael Ledeen: [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
"What makes me angriest: that there is no outcry against election fraud; that the media have become pure political instruments; that our “educational system” has produced an ignorant electorate."
One, two, three, BINGO!
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:58:46am |
re: #1295 arizona9
What side of the spectrum is he on again?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:59:06am |
re: #1290 Shakezula
something is fishy here
1. it's CNN, and they are manipulating the story, just like they always do.
2. the only thing fishy here is you, registered since 2004, with only 130 posts, mostly tonight, popping up out of nowhere...
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:59:33am |
re: #1292 redc1c4
well, it'd likely run afoul of Charles's directives here, and it was just a spur of the moment rant anyway, not very well fleshed out... if you insist, add "at sbcglobal DOT net" to my nick and i'll see what i can do for ya... i figure my pathetic blog needs a post anyway.
Sent you an e-mail.
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:00:04am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:00:15am |
re: #1287 littleoldlady
Does it? I was banking on the American people. I was wrong to do that.
/oh well. it's every man for himself now.
Obama said on MTV he didn't like that attitude, and it's one of the things that as president, he's going to make people "change".
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:00:23am |
re: #1299 SurferDoc
Slept two hours and woke back up again. Hi, all!
have a few shots: it's almost fruitcup time and i emptied the narc locker into it...
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:00:34am |
re: #1285 mahatma coat
Agree completely.Its his foreign policy that scares me.I do believe the electorate will not abide anything ayerswrightlike domestically.But naivete and ineptitude in foreign policy endangers the whole world.As bad as his associates are ahmanutjob is ten times worse
I think Biden knew what he was talking about when he shot his mouth off about Obama being tested. He sounded pretty sure, like he had some inside knowledge, which is the case since both sides have been receiving briefings by the administration. I also think the test will involve Israel.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:00:42am |
re: #1297 nonic
Good morning, people.
I agree with Michael Ledeen: [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
"What makes me angriest: that there is no outcry against election fraud; that the media have become pure political instruments; that our “educational system” has produced an ignorant electorate."
One, two, three, BINGO!
We have to punish them by dropping them - cut cable
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:01:16am |
re: #1302 littleoldlady
Thanks for the fruitcup { {littleoldlady} }. At least some things don't CHANGE. :)
/white smoke
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:01:57am |
re: #1305 capitalist piglet
Obama said on MTV he didn't like that attitude, and it's one of the things that as president, he's going to make people "change".
we'll it'll take him more than 4 years for me alone, that candy ass is SOL.
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:02:02am |
McCain ran the most respectable losing campaign ever.
Good job I guess.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:02:15am |
re: #1300 redc1c4
Im hardly popping out of nowhere. I mostly lurk the posting area but I show up in the lounge every once in a while. I've been on this site one way or another since the beginning. when littlegreenfootballs.com was a web design page and you had to add the "log" to the end ofurl to go to the blog. But whatever you think.
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:02:16am |
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:02:44am |
Coleman increases lead. It is still inching along, now at 98.89%-who the hell is counting votes in Minnesota, a drunk monkey?
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FortunateSon Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:02:52am |
I inadvertently pulled an all-nighter...curse you, Al Franken, for costing me sleep. I am amazed that, as a Michigan native and resident, I care so much about a Mn race.
Coleman by 3,000?
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Neo Con since 9-11 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:02:54am |
re: #1302 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves.
You all have too much fruit cup so I'm redistributing half your fruit to those less fortunate.
/President Obama
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:03:21am |
re: #1302 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves.
Good morning!
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:03:32am |
Wonder how Croatia would look for my upcoming self-imposed 'exile'. Some parts along the Adriatic coast have been referred to as a poor man's Tuscan. Plus most of the country is bout 12-15 years removed from the violent breakup of Yugoslavia, one of the few places in Europe where Mass is well-attended for the church and it's not in the Eurozone, so- while probably not a bargain- I imagine it would still be reasonably priced.
///
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:04:03am |
re: #1308 rancher
I think Biden knew what he was talking about when he shot his mouth off about Obama being tested. He sounded pretty sure, like he had some inside knowledge, which is the case since both sides have been receiving briefings by the administration. I also think the test will involve Israel.
then i hope Zahal strikes first... "Zanek!"
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Lukas Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:04:24am |
I wouldn't expect major terror attacks soon. There was no Osama video. Obama is exactly what the terrorists want. Maybe a few smaller "humiliation" type kidnappings but that is it. Now is time for the Hudna. Al Qaeda has taken a beating and will use the peaceful years of Barry's presidency to regroup, rearm and plan their coming holocaust. And when New York or London or Tel Aviv is nuked remember this day.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:05:29am |
re: #1312 AMER1CAN
McCain ran the most respectable losing campaign ever.
Good job I guess.
that's just stupid.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:06:04am |
41 precincts to go 8k vote lead for coleman, this is getting exhausting.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:07:13am |
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:07:17am |
My horrorscope today: "Prepare to change course".
/veh iz mir
Anyway, here is my prediction, which naturally, given my recent successes in reading tea leaves will no doubt be wrong. (Sure. It will probably be worse.)
Israel will have no choice but to take out Iran's nukes between now and January 20. As promised, Hezbollah in America will attack us where we live.
There will be a backlash against the Jews.
Prepare yourselves.
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:07:33am |
99% reporting, Coleman up 7,748.
Hey, could the count difference be that one is factoring in absentee and one is not?
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:07:39am |
re: #1322 Lukas
Agreed. Now will be the time to rearm and replan if you are americas enemies. Least we forget that 9/11 was planned during a dem administration? Hell, people can barely even remember that day. So sad.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:08:42am |
In case anyone is interested in MN recount law...
May 19, 2008 -- Minnesota continues to improve its election transparency and accountability standards with passage of an innovative law allowing losing candidates to call for manual recounts in select precincts. Called the “partial discretionary recount,” one of the first of its kind in the nation, is a cost-effective way for candidates to have the election results in specific precincts verified.
The law expands on provisions of Minnesota’s recount law which provides for recounts in races within a margin of victory of 0.5%. Under the new added provision, candidates in any contest with a 5% margin of victory may call for a hand recount, at their expense, of up to three precincts. If the requested recount shows a difference greater than 0.5% compared to the Election Day results, there will be hand recounting of additional precincts. That could lead to a contest-wide recount if more disparities between the reported results and the hand counts are discovered.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:09:08am |
re: #1327 littleoldlady
I unfortunately fear thats not too far off the mark
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:10:19am |
re: #1327 littleoldlady
My horrorscope today: "Prepare to change course".
/veh iz mir
Anyway, here is my prediction, which naturally, given my recent successes in reading tea leaves will no doubt be wrong. (Sure. It will probably be worse.)
Israel will have no choice but to take out Iran's nukes between now and January 20. As promised, Hezbollah in America will attack us where we live.
There will be a backlash against the Jews.
Prepare yourselves.
the closest Jews i know are the nice couple right next door: no one gets to them without going through me.
/never again
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callahan23 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:10:45am |
Question!
Is the senate filibuster-proof for the dems?
Please, not.
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:10:48am |
re: #1323 redc1c4
You didn't sense 1 ounce of sarcasm in what I said? For petes sake...
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:12:20am |
re: #1189 rancher
Looks like I picked the wrong time to give up smoking pot.
Does your dad know you just said that? SMACK!
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:12:45am |
re: #1334 callahan23
as it looks now with saxby chambliss holding 50% of Georgia and Ted stevens winning Alaska. The dems lack the super majority. I'm gonna send mitch mconell and james inhoffe the complete works of Shakespeare to read on the floor when the fillibusters are required.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:12:55am |
NC is dead even for a dead thread, check out the bottom screen. First time in history Overseas and Military absentee ballots will win NC
Wonder who the Military will vote for?
97.97 votes counted.
Anyone care to guess how many ACORN stuffed in the box?
Or how many votes they might still try to steal?
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:12:58am |
1308 rancher
1285 mahatma
"I do believe the electorate will not abide anything ayerswrightlike domestically"
But with a dem White House, Congress, and Senate, and a lot of Clinton judicial appointees out there already, the electorate has given up its ability to "abide" or "not abide" just about anything Pelosi and/or Obama want to impose on us. The most we can do is wait 2 years and vote some of them out. And I doubt they're very scared of that now.
There was a piece in the WSJ yesterday about how Carter was restrained by a more moderate set of democrats on Capital Hill. Not this time around.
Another thing that gets me (in addition to Michael Ledeen's 3 points -- see #1297) is that the media has made it ALL ABOUT race. NYT headline right now is "Racial Barrier Falls as Votes Embrace Call for Change." If you thought the self-censorship to avoid the appearance of "racism" was there before the election, it's only gonna get worse now, much worse.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:13:34am |
re: #1335 AMER1CAN
You didn't sense 1 ounce of sarcasm in what I said? For petes sake...
you're not a LNDT reg, so i don't know your style, and tonight's *not* a good night to be forgetting the "/"... or at least toss out a white smoke.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:13:46am |
re: #1333 redc1c4
"never again"...sorry but in the last decade or so ,and last night especially that has been turned into a hollow phrase.Rising anti semitism and terrorist coddling prove our respective govts. don't mean a word of it
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callahan23 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:15:46am |
re: #1337 Shakezula
Thanks, that should keep me sane after all.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:15:48am |
well i found another small silver lining to the day. Mccain won Missouri. Now we can end their sanctimonious bellwether gumflapping every election
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:19:38am |
1318 neo con
1302 littleoldlady
"You all have too much fruit cup so I'm redistributing half your fruit to those less fortunate.
/President Obama"
Yes, and since the bananas have to be imported, we're not gonna have those anymore, and the pineapple requires too much refrigeration (read, polluting energy use) so that's gone, and FORGET the watermelon and coconut (what is your name, please?, for the IRS auditors?).
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:20:43am |
re: #1302 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves.
Sorry, LoL. This morning I think I need Red's fruitcup.
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:20:47am |
re: #1344 nonic
1318 neo con
1302 littleoldlady"You all have too much fruit cup so I'm redistributing half your fruit to those less fortunate.
/President Obama"Yes, and since the bananas have to be imported, we're not gonna have those anymore, and the pineapple requires too much refrigeration (read, polluting energy use) so that's gone, and FORGET the watermelon and coconut (what is your name, please?, for the IRS auditors?).
You forgot the windfall profits tax...
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WayDownSouthInBama Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:21:38am |
McCain can thank two people that this race was as close as it was...Palin and Joe the Plumber. Without them,he would have lost by far more tonight. It's time to kick the RINO's out of the Republican party or to form a new party for true Conservatives. The sellout RINO's have just cost us dearly.
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:23:59am |
I think McCain should have pulled out all the stops to try for the win. Instead, he played a safe respectable campaign. He didn't win, but he didn't lose by much.
I would of rather done all I could to go for the win and go down in a heap of flames rather then trying to minimize the loss.
I think the old cliche of "Nice guys finish last" is appropriate here.
I didn't see one good ad from McCain until just freakin 2 days ago, and that was from the 505's or whatever rhey are called. Why wasn't those ads running for the last month? Who the heck knows. And the answer doesn't matter now anyways.
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akak Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:24:07am |
Remember politicians lie all day every day, Obama is going to betray his supporters so much - that all people will have to do is enter their name on the ballot next opportunity.
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smokefire Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:25:50am |
...a dark, pervasive, gloom has fallen over the landscape. I pray for this country, because we may started our fall into the abyss.
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:26:18am |
re: #1349 AMER1CAN
I think McCain should have pulled out all the stops to try for the win. Instead, he played a safe respectable campaign. He didn't win, but he didn't lose by much.
I would of rather done all I could to go for the win and go down in a heap of flames rather then trying to minimize the loss.
I think the old cliche of "Nice guys finish last" is appropriate here.
I didn't see one good ad from McCain until just freakin 2 days ago, and that was from the 505's or whatever rhey are called. Why wasn't those ads running for the last month? Who the heck knows. And the answer doesn't matter now anyways.
I'm not trying to defend McCain, but let's remember just how much money The Messiah had to throw around and buy the presidency with - legally raised or not. That had to make a major difference.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:28:15am |
re: #1345 tappin52
Sorry, LoL. This morning I think I need Red's fruitcup.
I need the fancy cups,
still need some handles or a spoon.
[Link: farm1.static.flickr.com...]
Maybe I can afford fancy fruitcup if Obama sends me another $5,000 per year.
Or
1.96 per hour.
Now if he will keep gas at 2 dollars...
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freetoken Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:28:27am |
re: #1351 smokefire
...a dark, pervasive, gloom has fallen over the landscape. I pray for this country, because we may started our fall into the abyss.
Oh... foo... no it hasn't... and I doubt we will.
Folks... stop being so melodramatic. Obama is unlikely to be all that your fears are lead you to believe, and likewise he is unlikely to be all that his supporters fantasize that he will be.
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:28:30am |
Right now I feel like it is futile to vote anymore. The in-your-face fraud perpetrated with an air of what-are-you-gonna-do-about-it. The media controlling information coupled with a disastrously dumbed down electorate equalled a monumental failure of common sense. I am totally demoralized.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:28:39am |
Mccain was sort of like a football coach who down by 10 punted on 4th and 5 on his own 30 yard line. He could have gone for it but he would rather keep it a respectable loss than risk giving up another score
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SurferDoc Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:28:56am |
Turncoat Conservative pundits and the MSM have more to do with McCain's loss than anything he didn't do.
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:29:02am |
When he selected Palin, the country was abuzz and I had a great feeling McCain would win. But then this odd period of time went by where it was like Palin had disappeared. It was for about 2-4 weeks we heard nothing from the McCain or Palin camps. During this time, the dems were defining Palin and redefining McCain and I think that lull between when he selected Palin caused him to loose all that momentum and good will he had been able to easily obtain by picking her. That buzz was gone as quickly as it came.
/just one mans opinion
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:29:56am |
re: #1353 ploome hineni
so are we a country of laws, or is that just more shit?
Men of honor - like McCain - follow the law. Didn't seem to matter to the Obama campaign.
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:31:45am |
re: #1357 Shakezula
I was just thinking the same thing. You probably read TMQ too. Yes?
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:32:05am |
re: #1359 AMER1CAN
When he selected Palin, the country was abuzz and I had a great feeling McCain would win. But then this odd period of time went by where it was like Palin had disappeared. It was for about 2-4 weeks we heard nothing from the McCain or Palin camps. During this time, the dems were defining Palin and redefining McCain and I think that lull between when he selected Palin caused him to loose all that momentum and good will he had been able to easily obtain by picking her. That buzz was gone as quickly as it came.
/just one mans opinion
And let's not forget the impact of the MSM on this whole thing. I wonder how this election will be viewed in a couple of hundred years...
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:32:27am |
re: #1353 ploome hineni
We ceased being a country of laws when both parties refused to deal with the illegal immigrant problem.
/then, and now even moreso, it's every man for himself
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:32:30am |
re: #1361 AMER1CAN
I was just thinking the same thing. You probably read TMQ too. Yes?
yup, that guy is a national treasure
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:34:30am |
re: #1352 TnTx13
Agreed, all the more reason he needed to drop the friendly facade and go for the jugular everytime Palin/McCain had the opportunity.
They didn't. They lost.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:35:15am |
re: #1341 mahatma coat
"never again"...sorry but in the last decade or so ,and last night especially that has been turned into a hollow phrase.Rising anti semitism and terrorist coddling prove our respective govts. don't mean a word of it
i was speaking for myself personally, in regards to my neighbors. anyone who comes for them, gets to deal with me first. i will not write letters of protest. i will not seek support from legislative bodies far away and apparently uninterested. i will simply, in the traditional American way, do what is necessary to protect me and mine, and the whole world can go fuck themselves. they may kill us both, but we will not go quietly and uncomplainingly into the night and fog.
when they kick at your front door, how you gonna go?
i've made up my mind. how about you?
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:35:29am |
re: #1364 littleoldlady
We ceased being a country of laws when both parties refused to deal with the illegal immigrant problem.
/then, and now even moreso, it's every man for himself
So true. And what I find astounding is that legislators keep trying to provide driver's licenses for illegal aliens, saying that it will make our roads safer by ensuring that the ILLEGAL immigrants will drive safely. Let's see - they broke one law to get here, but they'll follow another law that takes them right into a state office that has law enforcement officers roaming around everywhere?
/that's SOOO logical!
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:35:56am |
1362 TnTx13
"I wonder how this election will be viewed in a couple of hundred years..."
I seriously don't think this country will be here in a couple of hundred years. And very possibly not enough people will know how to read by then for non-islamic "history" to matter much anyway.
Or maybe you were kidding.
But I'm not.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:36:15am |
re: #1345 tappin52
Sorry, LoL. This morning I think I need Red's fruitcup.
sssh! she hasn't figured out they are one and the same...
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:36:40am |
re: #1359 AMER1CAN
When he selected Palin, the country was abuzz and I had a great feeling McCain would win. But then this odd period of time went by where it was like Palin had disappeared. It was for about 2-4 weeks we heard nothing from the McCain or Palin camps.
/just one mans opinion
Don't forget the market meltdown,
Boomers lost 6 trillion dollars- one third of their inheritance that would have been passed on to you or our young.
They are still pissed, but will get over it in 2010 Congressional elections- If we can still hold elections?
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:37:47am |
Canadian paper headlines:
National Post- "History"
Globe and Mail- "Obama Overcomes"
Toronto Star- "A dream fulfilled"
/think I am going to be sick. :p
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:39:35am |
re: #1371 nonic
1362 TnTx13
"I wonder how this election will be viewed in a couple of hundred years..."
I seriously don't think this country will be here in a couple of hundred years. And very possibly not enough people will know how to read by then for non-islamic "history" to matter much anyway.
Or maybe you were kidding.
But I'm not.
I wasn't kidding, but I also wouldn't be surprised by what you think may happen. If there was such a thing as an objective observer out there (maybe a little space alien!), I think the media bias and its effect would be even more startling than we knew it to be during this campaign. I often wonder if the stuff we used to learn in history class (they don't teach history anymore, it seems) is any more accurate than the way we see our current events portrayed in the MSM.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:39:35am |
re: #1346 TnTx13
You forgot the windfall profits tax...
pull my finger, you can tax that windfall all you want... %-)
/greenhouse gas?
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:40:19am |
Boomers lost 6 trillion dollars- one third of their inheritance that would have been passed on to you or our young.
Wow. I'm starting to feel better already. Oh, wait a minute. The Death Tax will take care of the rest, won't it? The youngsters just voted themselves extreme poverty in the future.
/and they call MY generation lost?
//bwahahahaha!
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:40:55am |
re: #1378 redc1c4
pull my finger, you can tax that windfall all you want... %-)
/greenhouse gas?
ROFLMAO!
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:41:42am |
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:42:27am |
re: #1367 rancher
Oh, sorry. Don't talk like that around your son! SMACK!
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:44:34am |
re: #1379 littleoldlady
Boomers lost 6 trillion dollars- one third of their inheritance that would have been passed on to you or our young.
Wow. I'm starting to feel better already. Oh, wait a minute. The Death Tax will take care of the rest, won't it? The youngsters just voted themselves extreme poverty in the future.
/and they call MY generation lost?
//bwahahahaha!
Here's a good one, from Congressman Jim Moran of Virginia, speaking to a group of supporters: "We have been guided by a Republican administration who believes in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it and they have an antipathy towards means of redistributing wealth. And they may be able to sustain that for a while, but it doesn't work in the long run."
Unbelievable...
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:44:50am |
re: #1379 littleoldlady
Boomers lost 6 trillion dollars- one third of their inheritance that would have been passed on to you or our young.
Wow. I'm starting to feel better already. Oh, wait a minute. The Death Tax will take care of the rest, won't it? The youngsters just voted themselves extreme poverty in the future.
/and they call MY generation lost?
//bwahahahaha!
wth did you put in that fruitcup?
I have never heard you laugh like that.
Life is a Bitch and then we die!
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:45:02am |
That's it for me, folks.
I've got a whole week of Pennsylvania adjectives to live up to. Today I'm doing bitter.
See y'all! :-)
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:45:19am |
R.I.P.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
CONCEIVED IN LIBERTY
JULY 4, 1776
SUCCUMBED TO SOCIALISM
NOVEMBER 4, 2008
"IF YE BREAK FAITH WITH WE WHO DIE,
WE SHALL NOT REST, THOUGH POPPIES GROW
IN FLANDERS FIELDS."
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:46:00am |
re: #1386 littleoldlady
That's it for me, folks.
I've got a whole week of Pennsylvania adjectives to live up to. Today I'm doing bitter.
See y'all! :-)
Good luck with bitter, LOL! Will that be in tomorrow's fruitcup?
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Dayenu Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:46:00am |
re: #848 vegasjew
My friend...
After I ranted to a sympathetic friend of mine... his response was the sincere refrain of "G-d" has a plan. And yes, I am sure he does. And does G-d look over the people of Israel? Yes indeed. He does.
But that didn't mean G-d was not ready to punish the wicked or the strays, those who need punishing. G-d brought his judgement on Sodom & Gemorrah. On Egypt. G-d punished the Israelites and the Jews, with the Exiles from Babylon, Rome, the Inquisitors, the Jihadists, the Nazis. And if we continue to stray, who is to say G-d is not preparing his judgement for modern day Israel? Or modern day America?
G-d has a plan, and I tremble and fear that according to his divine justice, we may well get exactly what we deserve.
We have chosen an idol, a hollow man of no substance, a cult of personality who people are praising as a savior, in spite of his empty resume, his allegiances to terrorists and socialists. And if this marks the end of America's unique greatness, and blessings from G-d...
...who will protect me and the likes of me from the cattle cars?
-One of the few Jews who voted for McCain.
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Spiritualized Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:46:20am |
I went to bed hoping for the best but fearing the worst. I'll be skipping the news for the next month at least, I don't want to see that degenerate Marxist and his bitter-faced hag. What have you got to look forward to?
Carbon taxes
Israel has now be forced into a corner at a critical juncture, and Obama's policy will mirror "progressive" Europe. Where the darling "Palestinians" take precedence. I see Haniyeh in a White House visit by 2010.
Tens of billions to the U.N.
Fairness Doctrine
A sycophantic media that acts like a Barry Hussein's personal propaganda wing.
This is a disaster of incomparable proportions.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:46:30am |
re: #1385 ibmkeyboard
wth did you put in that fruitcup?
I have never heard you laugh like that.
Life is a Bitch and then we die!
Take it you haven't been married yet. Lifes a bitch, then you marry one, then you die.
/white smoke, lots of it.
//:)
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:46:50am |
re: #1308 rancher
Clinton got his first wake-up call with the 1993 WTC bombings just after coming into office.
After Bush was elected, the bombing was 8 months later but within the first year.
Here's what I'd watch..how our Democrats act before inauguration and just as importantly listen to what our enemies say. If we hear crap about prosecuting Bush, pulling troops - blah, blah, blah, you know the stuff - while hearing that our enemies can't wait to work with the new admin - I, for one, would expect a very quick deterioration in domestic politics and policies while expecting Russia and Iran to move forward swiftly with with their agendas against Western Europe and the ME. It won't be pretty.
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AMER1CAN Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:47:55am |
re: #1374 ibmkeyboard
The market meltdown was a gift to McCain and he completely fumbled it away in my opinion.
To vote the same way as Obama, which was FOR the 700 billion bailout was stupid beyond belief.
I don't care if you agree with the bailout, I don't want to debate that right now. The fact of the matter is that McCain should have driven home conserative principals and that was a perfect opportunity to do that. But he didn't. He voted the same way as Obama. He voted for big spendin g and big government.
For my money, if I am trying to win this election, I would have voted the opposite of what Obama had voted for in nothing else then to show "difference". Instead, McCain voted for the bailout and I think that was truly his death kneel. It was hiss last shot to make a difference and instead he just voted right along with it. The next day I remember at work all people were talking about was how McCain had voted for that massive bailout. Many wondered why, including myself.
/just my opinion
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:48:41am |
"When the people find they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic."
--Benjamin Franklin
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David IV of Georgia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:48:45am |
Oh, boy.
Now my 401K will increase exponentially,
Europe will respect us,
I'll get a 30 hour work week with full benefits,
And won't have to pay taxes.
Right?
Um, right?
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:48:48am |
re: #1379 littleoldlady
Boomers lost 6 trillion dollars- one third of their inheritance that would have been passed on to you or our young.
Wow. I'm starting to feel better already. Oh, wait a minute. The Death Tax will take care of the rest, won't it? The youngsters just voted themselves extreme poverty in the future.
/and they call MY generation lost?
//bwahahahaha!
serves them right, but at least it will be "fair" whatever the hell *that* means... st00pid people deserve to have st00pid shit happen to them, and i think the relentless "whateverproof" syndrome is part of the problem. it used to be that if you screwed up, it caused pain, and, occasionally killed you. these days, everything is so dumbed down, people don't even pay attention, since almost nothing can hurt them, so it never occurs to them to consider outcomes. this election is a case in point. they voted stupid, which iwill cause long term pain, but it felt good now. when the pain comes they will never consider a connection, and no one in charge will wish to point one out.
thank gawd my chillren only have 4 legs... it's doubtful they will outlast me, and i don't need to worry about future generations. i almost pity my brother though, but since his wife is a moonbat, i'm sure the spawn will be raised to not notice.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:50:09am |
re: #1391 BlueCanuck
Take it you haven't been married yet. Lifes a bitch, then you marry one, then you die.
/white smoke, lots of it.
//:)
at least I am grinning.
later/
wished I would have taken my daughter to the polls.
her car busted and I told her not to worry NC would go republican. Yeah!
put that shit on my tombstone.
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:50:53am |
re: #1389 Dayenu
I must say that I have not met any Jews who voted for Obama. I have only heard about them. I don't think that Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
/work in a Jewish workplace
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vagabond trader Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:52:08am |
One of the guys on Fox observed what has been at the back of my mind. Something to the effect that McCain seemed as though he was resigned to the historical aspect of the election. That he never really had it in him to fight to win. Sorry, don't have the exact quote but it rang true.
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wiz 52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:52:51am |
51% of the American people just voted themselves a raise...it is the beginning of the end.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:53:13am |
re: #1393 AMER1CAN
To vote the same way as Obama,
which was FOR the 700 billion bailout was stupid beyond belief.
my leg would have tingled if he would have just said Present.
poor people fight to survive,
Rich people kiss ass and call it survival.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:53:14am |
re: #1398 little blessing
I must say that I have not met any Jews who voted for Obama. I have only heard about them. I don't think that Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
/work in a Jewish workplace
there's plenty where i live...
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:53:45am |
Boy, when I get sick, I sure have some very realistic nightmares! Last night I dreamed I woke up, logged on to LGF, and read that B.H.O. had been elected President!
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:55:59am |
re: #1398 little blessing
I must say that I have not met any Jews who voted for Obama. I have only heard about them. I don't think that Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
/work in a Jewish workplace
I read a figure of 70% tonight, FWIW (probably nothing, based on exit polling, obviously).
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:56:11am |
re: #1399 vagabond trader
One of the guys on Fox observed what has been at the back of my mind. Something to the effect that McCain seemed as though he was resigned to the historical aspect of the election. That he never really had it in him to fight to win. Sorry, don't have the exact quote but it rang true.
then WTF did he bother running? did he think it was his "turn" like some sort of grade school fucking game?
we need a whole new RNC, top to freking bottom: even the janitors and the mailroom staff needs to go, and start over in a new building, located somewhere other than in Washington DC. or NYC... maybe Atlanta?
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:57:21am |
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:57:27am |
re: #1270 zionausi
democracy sucks.
After what the MSM did to shield Obama I'm not sure if the process can be called democracy.
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vagabond trader Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:57:40am |
re: #1402 redc1c4
Well I can tell you that this Jew certainly did not and a pox on those who did!
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:57:51am |
re: #1355 freetoken
no kidding ,there's been a fair bit of emotional incontinence in the past 7-8 hours.I'd like to think alot of its the drink talking.We don't want to sound like a conservative kos.Anyway speaking of incontinence,here's my favourite from last night...(I'll be kind and withhold the nic)
Fellow Lizards:
I've just been sick onto my trousers, shoes and carpet, which pretty much marks the end of the night for me here as I'm going to have to go and clean it up in a moment. (Posting on LGF while partially encrusted in my own vomit isn't really something I want to get into a habit of.)
Try to have a good one folks:) Just remember - Obama might turn out to be more Tony Blairs II than Jimmy Carter II...
ha ha
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:58:16am |
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:59:18am |
the count is taking forever, it looks like i wont get to sleep tonight at all. hurry the fark up Mn
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:59:25am |
that's it... it's too late to get seriously hammered, and i'm not gonna pull an all nighter just for shits & grins.
hasta y'all...
PS: he is so *not* my president, like totally, fer sure.
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:00:22am |
re: #1412 Shakezula
In any case it wasn't the landslide the MSM predicted.
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Shakezula Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:00:24am |
i wouldnt blame all of the new york jews, the vast majority of the orthodox jewish community voted for mccain.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:01:15am |
re: #1399 vagabond trader
One of the guys on Fox observed what has been at the back of my mind. Something to the effect that McCain seemed as though he was resigned to the historical aspect of the election. That he never really had it in him to fight to win. Sorry, don't have the exact quote but it rang true.
I think, maybe, the moment when he really lost the election was when he told angry and fearful people in Wisconsin that Obama was a good man, and that America had nothing to be afraid of should he become POTUS.
We knew better, and so did the people who were at the rally. Nobody likes having smoke blown up their asses, frankly, and I think his "FIGHT WITH ME" rhetoric from the convention lost some of its impact in that moment. He didn't have to concede that Obama had "666" tatooed under his hair, but he could have handled it without disagreeing with the reason a lot of people wanted to vote for him (McCain) instead.
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Dayenu Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:01:21am |
re: #1398 little blessing
Well, there's my mother for one. I finally stopped including her on my political e-mail lists, because I got tired of her screeching about what an imbecile Palin was, and how Palin had a Jews for Jesus guest speaker at her church once and didn't say anything. (Yet she would shrug off when I mentioned Obama's 20 years with Reverend Wright...)
I love her dearly, but the last political e-mail she said that she, my brother, my sister-in-law, and my father all sealed their absentee ballots for Obama. There's a chance my father may have been the exception, but he'd be far too smart to tell that to my mother. Even if he didn't vote for Obama though, he probably would have gone third party instead of McCain.
Then there's my cousin... and her family and... enough, it's too many to list.
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Ledger1 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:01:37am |
The race was very close in some states – almost too close to not hold a re-count.
RCP
Pecent Obama / McCain
Florida 51 49
Ohio 51 47 (?)
Colorado 53 46
Virginia 52 47
Indiana 50 49
North Carolina 50 49 (too close to call)
Missouri 49 50 (too close to call)
Iowa 54 45 (?)
I wish McCain would have waited before rolling over dead.
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rightside Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:03:53am |
re: #1407 BlueCanuck
I am in the country, and my county was 56-42 McCain. If you look at a county by county breakdown, the supermajority of the state went for Mac. Amazing though it was won by the socialist.
I keep my head up proudly, we voted, we overwhelmingly went for Mac. I am not too happy this morning, but there will be no riots, no civil unrest.
There will be more to say in the future in the way of a total reorganization.
Thanks John. Now go away.
Most gracious losing campaign ever.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:04:54am |
re: #1355 freetoken
Oh... foo... no it hasn't... and I doubt we will.
Folks... stop being so melodramatic. Obama is unlikely to be all that your fears are lead you to believe, and likewise he is unlikely to be all that his supporters fantasize that he will be.
plan for capabilities, not intentions.
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vagabond trader Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:05:12am |
re: #1406 redc1c4
Good question. I also heard that Bobby Jindal will be up to bat next, starting yesterday.If he doesn't know how to play fast and dirty, he had better learn.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:05:34am |
a fox viewer just suggested the one choose McCain as defense secretary.Not a bad idea. How about Bolton for state?...guess that one probably won't happen
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:05:58am |
re: #1414 little blessing
In any case it wasn't the landslide the MSM predicted.
but it will be a landslide when they report it, which is all anyone will ever remember.
/same difference
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:06:50am |
re: #1404 rightside
There ya' go.
On the 17th Bush and probably Hussein are going to be meeting with G-20 leaders - Sarko taking the lead. Sarko is pushing the Russian agenda - one that the Germans spruced-up for Fwench consumption - with a 'made in Fwance' tag. If we even sound like we'll buy into it, my recommendation will be to get ready to get under your desk and kiss your ass good-bye.
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Forever Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:08:01am |
Honestly, I think McCain and any other Republican candidate would have lost this election anyway. I was hoping for a McCain victory, but seeing the outcome, I cannot conlude anything else then that Obama won by a landslide.
Maybe, it is just the way it needs to be and after Obama messes up the USA, a Republican can clean up in '12. As McCain said: Americans never give up.
Thanks McCain for all your effort and despite what some people say, I am 100% sure no other Republican candidate could win this election.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:08:40am |
re: #1419 Ledger1
The race was very close in some states – almost too close to not hold a re-count.
(which he will never do)
RCPI wish McCain would have waited before rolling over dead.
he never wanted to win... i wonder what his payoff is?
i dub his new nickname to be "Diver", since he took a dive in the championship.
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David IV of Georgia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:10:49am |
re: #1419 Ledger1
The race was very close in some states – almost too close to not hold a re-count.
RCP
Pecent Obama / McCain
Florida 51 49
Ohio 51 47 (?)
Colorado 53 46
Virginia 52 47
Indiana 50 49
North Carolina 50 49 (too close to call)
Missouri 49 50 (too close to call)
Iowa 54 45 (?)I wish McCain would have waited before rolling over dead.
I think McCain was anxious not to appear to be repeating the sorry spectacle of the last election, so he conceded quickly. In my opinion, too quickly. I don't think there should be any concessions until Hawaii closes the polls at least.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:12:01am |
1424 mahatma
I read that Kerry will be Secretary of State.
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redc1c4 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:12:19am |
re: #1430 David IV of Georgia
I think McCain was anxious not to appear to be repeating the sorry spectacle of the last election, so he conceded quickly. In my opinion, too quickly. I don't think there should be any concessions until Hawaii closes the polls at least.
he never wanted to win. plain and simple. why do you think he resfused to attack on issues that might change things? why do you think they sat on Sarah?
it's all BS.
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jim in virginia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:12:43am |
Morning all.
We've got two years of this sort of thing:
Jim Moran:
The simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it
.
The good news: If Obama, Pelosi and Reid can foul things up enough in nine months, Virginia will not elect a Democrat as governor in 2009, so we will be spared Terry McAuliffe.
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:13:11am |
re: #1415 Shakezula
Interesting. That's what I've been hearing.
Do Orthodox Jews tend to vote Republican as opposed to non orthodox?
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:14:07am |
re: #1435 little blessing
Interesting. That's what I've been hearing.
Do Orthodox Jews tend to vote Republican as opposed to non orthodox?
Yes.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:14:23am |
re: #1430 David IV of Georgia
they also shouldn't give any results until hawaii closes.Seems the main reason for doing it is to give the "talking heads" something to do.Actually elections aren't held to give something to do
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:15:09am |
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vagabond trader Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:16:58am |
A friend called from Ohio last night, one of those Americans who is not college educated but more smarts than any school can teach.He wondered what is wrong with these Obama people, so in your face with their views without even being asked.Four years of it I'm afraid.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:17:15am |
re: #1437 mahatma coat
Yeah I hate that too. Even up here it's bad. I remember one municipal election I watched on t.v., the polls were just closed and the talking heads already called the election for our current mayor.
/last time I really watched an election right at the close of polls.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:17:16am |
Obama had promised that one of the FIRST things he wants to do is make a major policy speech in a muslim country.
That should be interesting.
I'll accept that he's a Christian. Or something like. I really don't care. But the muslim world doesn't see him that way. They think he is or was a muslim. This is going to be VERY interesting.
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:18:00am |
re: #1355 freetoken
Oh... foo... no it hasn't... and I doubt we will.
Folks... stop being so melodramatic. Obama is unlikely to be all that your fears are lead you to believe, and likewise he is unlikely to be all that his supporters fantasize that he will be.
I don't think you get it.
In today's world, we can no longer afford a President who makes too many stupid mistakes. All it takes is one dumb decision to trigger an economic catastrophe or a nuclear war.
I have no confidence in Obama to make a single correct decision.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:18:16am |
re: #1432 nonic
is Dominique (who is a man) De Villipain(sp?) still Fwench foreign minister?Those to together would be hilarious.An absolute fop fest.
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SurferDoc Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:18:41am |
It has been good having all of you to go through this with. I don't talk politics in real life except with family and few friends. Thanks to you all for being there. I intend to cut the new administration as much slack as the other side cut Bush. They called down the thunder, now they have it.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:19:04am |
Morning. I won't say good, cuz it ain't.
In about an hour I have to go and face a room full of college students who will be wild-eyed in their worship of the Great Leader. They believe he possesses some kind of magical power that will allow him to cure the ills of the world. Meanwhile the rockets fly into Israel and the centrifuges are spinning like mad.
It's 1976 all over again, but much worse. Putin is alive, vigorous, and far more reckless than Brezhnev and Kosygin ever were; the Chinese have money, and the Islamic radicals have far bigger guns and a better financed network. It won't be a matter of the occasional hijack.
But, hey! So what! We can all feel good about ourselves for making the morally correct choice!
And somewhere in Georgia, Jimmy Carter smiles, knowing that he will have competition in the "worst president" category.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:20:35am |
Morning goddess good to see you this morning.
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jim in virginia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:20:47am |
Has anyone checked whether the oceans have stopped rising?
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:20:58am |
!443 mahatma
Thanks for making me chuckle for the first time in the last 8 hours. So, maybe there's hope yet. :-)
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TnTx13 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:21:08am |
re: #1446 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning, Lizards.
Good morning, and good night from the night shift! Time to see if it's still true when I wake up...
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corova Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:21:09am |
re: #223 blackpajamas
That's why we need not worry about Schip passing. Obama wil surely not endorse a tax on cigarettes and other tobacco products if it means he will be taxing himself.
Or will taxpayers foot the bill for a tax on his bad habit ...
/confused
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:21:19am |
re: #1441 nonic
Obama had promised that one of the FIRST things he wants to do is make a major policy speech in a muslim country.
That should be interesting.
I'll accept that he's a Christian. Or something like. I really don't care. But the muslim world doesn't see him that way. They think he is or was a muslim. This is going to be VERY interesting.
He's a cynical opportunist. If he think being Muslim would get him votes, he'd stick his butt in the air and bow towards Mecca. He joined that church in Chicago to get street cred in the 'hood. The man believes in nothing but his own right to power.
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:21:22am |
I posted this comment earlier but I believe it is worth repeating:
re: #489 little blessing
Reading the comments posted above, I can empathize with most of what was said. The phrase "prepare for the worst and hope for the best" has stuck with me throughout this election.
I urge all of my fellow citizens, Please don't let your disappiontment blind you. There is so much good that has been done in the last 6 months and just because we haven't triumphed doesn't mean we haven't achieved.
{All lizards and fellow Americans}
Since when has the "Real American" ever given up? Since we started out as Colonies there were those who wanted to weep and moan and those who acted. I know many of us feel that there is no more "fight" left within us but we must recover.
Pick yourselves up, dust off the dirt. We all admire John McCain and those that serve, for their bravery, now its time to show them... ours.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:21:35am |
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:22:04am |
re: #1446 goddessoftheclassroom
Mornin' Goddess. Have some cranky flakes.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:22:18am |
re: #1443 mahatma coat
is Dominique (who is a man) De Villipain(sp?) still Fwench foreign minister?Those to together would be hilarious.An absolute fop fest.
Yes, and here's his full name: Dominique Marie François René Galouzeau de Villepin
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:22:47am |
re: #1448 BlueCanuck
Morning goddess good to see you this morning.
"morning goddess"...new nic maybe?
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:22:48am |
Morning all...
I went to bed as soon as Mac finished his concession speech..so how bad is it on the side of the Congress? Can we at least keep the bastard in check?
Also...did anyone notice Michelle's dress? It was black with a red hour glass shape on the front...I thought "Black Widow" when I saw that.
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jim in virginia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:23:05am |
{goddess}
I'd like to say that some day we will look back at this and laugh.
But we won't
.Someday, however, we will look back on this.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:23:08am |
re: #1457 Moe Katz
Yes, and here's his full name: Dominique Marie François René Galouzeau de Villepin
Say that three times fast.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:23:14am |
re: #1457 Moe Katz
Yes, and here's his full name: Dominique Marie François René Galouzeau de Villepin
Correction, he's prime minister now.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:23:35am |
1449 Jim
"Has anyone checked whether the oceans have stopped rising?"
Okay! You did it! LOL
I don't know about the oceans, but I guess the sun will rise today, after all.
(Thanks :-)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:24:19am |
Well, at least its over. I could not have waited another 2 years for the election anyway.
Hi Everybody.
I feel like Oskar Schindler.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:24:30am |
re: #1460 jim in virginia
{goddess}
I'd like to say that some day we will look back at this and laugh.
But we won't
.Someday, however, we will look back on this.
Perhaps the US Olympic Hockey team will be really good in about four years and we can remember that fondly ...
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MJBrutus Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:24:39am |
Congratulations America. Let's all do our best to welcome in the Pelosi Obama adminstration. Workers of the world unite!
P.S. Sorry Charles, but sarcasm is the best I can manage.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:25:39am |
re: #1464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Howdy FBV.
Honestly, after the political ads this past weekend, I was about ready to say "ok, let's just have a dictatorship so I never have to watch another effing political ad again."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:25:46am |
re: #1463 nonic
As I read your post, my head slowly turned toward the window...
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:25:58am |
re: #1446 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning, Lizards.
{goddess} !
---
other than that ... [expletive deleted]
I signed off early, as I said last night.
Got on the WSJ site about an hour ago.
Have been deleting expletives since then.
This is my first comment of the day.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:25:59am |
re: #1464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Got yer list made up?
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prince of dorkness Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:26:13am |
Good(?) mo(u)rning all.
Is there gonna be a 4 year drinking thread? I'm ready to start.
PoD
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:26:39am |
re: #1468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
As I read your post, my head slowly turned toward the window...
LOL, just to be sure right? I see a pre dawn glow outside right now, so we are good in that aspect.
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:26:44am |
Good Morning all lizards joining LGF.
PLEASE see post #30 before venting your spleen.
/It a depressing enough day without losing more lizards
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scottishbuzzsaw Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:27:10am |
re: #1454 little blessing
I posted this comment earlier but I believe it is worth repeating:
Thank you, little blessing...well said.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:27:34am |
And now the pundits are starting to spew more of the bi partisal pap.
Puleeze...
lets practice...is it spelled Comrades or should we use the cool spelling of Komrade?
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:28:23am |
a fox viewer just suggested the one choose McCain as defense secretary.Not a bad idea.
Obama doesn't have integrity, character or judgement to make that fine choice. Also, his ego is way too big. No way he'd do that. It would be the perfect choice in so many ways. It would be a real, magnificent move to bipartisanship but, unfortunately, as we all know, Obama is a liar and has no intention of walking that walk.
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:28:28am |
On that note, I'm off to bed.
/Here's hoping that the wine kicks in and I actually fall asleep.
re: #1474 scottishbuzzsaw
**blush**
Thank YOU!
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:28:32am |
1452 corova
See? There's an upside to everything. Now Obama can smoke in public again.
And Michelle doesn't have to act nice.
(And Whoopi doesn't have to act smart.)
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:28:35am |
Here's the silver lining.
America has ended racism.
THEY (you know whom I mean) are in charge. They can't complain or undermine anymore.
If they make things better or at least good, we all benefit.
If they screw things up, there are enough independents to shift things back again.
We've been through Carter, but now we're warned and ready .
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:28:36am |
re: #1475 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
And now the pundits are starting to spew more of the bi partisal pap.
Puleeze...
lets practice...is it spelled Comrades or should we use the cool spelling of Komrade?
I think it's spelled S*E*R*F.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:29:22am |
Good night little blessing, and may all your dreams be dreams.
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:29:30am |
Oh, and Coleman's lead is down to 1,000 with 99.69 reporting.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:29:44am |
re: #1479 goddessoftheclassroom
Here's the silver lining.
America has ended racism.
THEY (you know whom I mean) are in charge. They can't complain or undermine anymore.
If they make things better or at least good, we all benefit.
If they screw things up, there are enough independents to shift things back again.
We've been through Carter, but now we're warned and ready .
I wish I had your optimism. I'd have thunk after Carter we'd have learned our lesson, but I guess not. And I have a strong suspicion that the only thing "They" want to do is exact revenge.
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Spiritualized Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:30:07am |
CAIR CONGRATULATES PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA
U.S. Muslims offer support for ensuring a safe and free America“CAIR, America's largest Islamic civil rights and advocacy group, offers its congratulations to President-elect Barack Obama on his historic election to our nation’s highest office. President-elect Obama’s victory sends the unmistakable message that America is a nation that offers equal opportunity to people of all backgrounds.
“We look forward to having the opportunity to work with the Obama administration in protecting the civil rights of all Americans, projecting an accurate image of America in the Muslim world and playing a positive role in securing our nation.”
/Vomits.
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little blessing Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:30:10am |
re: #1481 BlueCanuck
They'll be dreams all right, but I'd prefer sweet dreams!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:30:14am |
re: #1470 Lucius Septimius
Nah. Just from the movie.
Oskar Schindler: I didn't do enough!
Itzhak Stern: You did so much.
[Schindler looks at his car]
Oskar Schindler: This car. Goeth would have bought this car. Why did I keep the car? Ten people right there. Ten people. Ten more people.
[removing Nazi pin from lapel]
Oskar Schindler: This pin. Two people. This is gold. Two more people. He would have given me two for it, at least one. One more person. A person, Stern. For this.
[sobbing]
Oskar Schindler: I could have gotten one more person... and I didn't! And I... I didn't!
I just can't help thinking I could have done more, but didn't.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:31:05am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:31:24am |
re: #1479 goddessoftheclassroom
Here's the silver lining.
America has ended racism.
THEY (you know whom I mean) are in charge. They can't complain or undermine anymore.
If they make things better or at least good, we all benefit.
If they screw things up, there are enough independents to shift things back again.
We've been through Carter, but now we're warned and ready .
Well said, and spot on target. It's put up or shut up time. One way or another, that issue inside the American civic body is now on its way toward resolution.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:31:39am |
re: #1486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can't blame yourself for the fact that the Republicans ran the most inept campaign since, oh, Bob Dole.
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NC State of Mind Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:31:55am |
Good day Lizards. It's still morning in America. The fight begins now to ensure we have many more.
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Lively Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:32:05am |
I dread going for my walk this morning. My neighbor, whom I bump into, has a bad case of BDS. He will be gloating. :(
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rightside Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:32:08am |
Fortunately for me, I haven't watched tv in years, so I don't have to listen to all that swooning nonsense for the next however long.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:32:15am |
Oh! Good Morning GOTCHA, Lucius, Blue, Purdy Patriot, everybody.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:32:31am |
re: #1475 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
good ,good ...it was getting depressing earlier on ,but I detect a sense of humour returning.The lizards can be knocked down but not out!
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:32:50am |
re: #1493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh! Good Morning GOTCHA, Lucius, Blue, Purdy Patriot, everybody.
*waves*
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:33:16am |
re: #1493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh! Good Morning GOTCHA, Lucius, Blue, Purdy Patriot, everybody.
/heh
//going to be like this for awhile I think.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:34:02am |
re: #1476 arizona9
a fox viewer just suggested the one choose McCain as defense secretary.Not a bad idea.
Obama doesn't have integrity, character or judgement to make that fine choice. Also, his ego is way too big. No way he'd do that. It would be the perfect choice in so many ways. It would be a real, magnificent move to bipartisanship but, unfortunately, as we all know, Obama is a liar and has no intention of walking that walk.
Obama just flipped the man off yesterday. Something tells me we won't be seeing John McCain in his cabinet.
Call it a hunch.
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SurferDoc Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:34:14am |
re: #1489 Lucius Septimius
Can't blame yourself for the fact that the Republicans ran the most inept campaign since, oh, Bob Dole.
We were running against Obama, the MSM, turncoat Conservative pundits and the last eight years. Everyone who did nothing while Bush was trashed joins in the failure. If WE don't learn and fight better and smarter every day, we will continue to lose.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:34:33am |
And I get to keep saying this...
"Hello Troofers. It is my pleasure to introduce you to "President Barack Obama.
Have at."
Let the gnats swarm around their heads for a few years.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:34:39am |
To add to the general crankiness, my daughter (3) got into bed with me last night and then wet the bed. I woke up at 3:00 AM in a puddle. Just what I needed to start the day.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:34:55am |
re: #1487 goddessoftheclassroom
{pre-Boomer Marine brat}
MWAH!I just thought of a book I read this summer. It's set in the 1860s in London. The protagonist gets elected to Parliament and decides it's better to be in the opposition because when his party is in power, it's expected to DO things.
What was meant by "do things"?
(forgive the lack of a LOLdog at the moment. Given time, I'll steady up.)
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Tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:35:25am |
re: #1486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nah. Just from the movie.
I just can't help thinking I could have done more, but didn't.
Tell me about it. There were several days I could have gone door-to-door for McCain/Palin, but didn't. Someone posted on here that Obama supporters knocked on something like 30%-40% more doors than McCain supporters.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:36:21am |
re: #1499 SurferDoc
We were running against Obama, the MSM, turncoat Conservative pundits and the last eight years. Everyone who did nothing while Bush was trashed joins in the failure. If WE don't learn and fight better and smarter every day, we will continue to lose.
True enough; that said, we need candidates who will pay attention to US and stop thinking like beltway insiders.
One question, though ... will venues like this survive the "fairness doctrine" and the Left's desire to crush dissent? That's one of the main dogs the MSM had in this fight methinks.
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jim in virginia Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:37:08am |
DEBKA says the Palestinians are firing missiles from Gaza again.
I question the timing!
2012: Palin/ Jindal v Clinton/Warner. Palin in a landslide
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Dave_Da_Kid Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:37:31am |
The only good thing I can see coming out of this is that we don't have to listen to Jesse and Al screaming about the man keeping them down. From now on all I do is point to his O-ness and tell them to STFU. He made it as high as you can in this country and so can anyone else. The opportunities are there you just have to work hard, and get the MSM to cover your back, and hide all your past associations with criminals and racists, and give money to groups like Acorn to commit vote fraud on your behalf, and take money from anonymous, possibly illegal sources, and... Well you get the picture. In any case we get to do it all again starting in about 18 months with the midterm races. Let's hope we can start correcting this by then.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:37:44am |
re: #1502 pre-Boomer Marine brat
What was meant by "do things"?
(forgive the lack of a LOLdog at the moment. Given time, I'll steady up.)
Oh, like, govern. It's a lot harder than criticizing.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:38:13am |
re: #1504 Tigger2005
My neighborhood (and state) were pretty solidly for McCain. Though I did have a neighbor who told the local Republican state house rep that she was a racist on account of being a Republican. I saw this while I was sitting outside. I invited the rep to sit down and rest her feet a while.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:38:16am |
I went to bed as soon as Mac finished his concession speech..so how bad is it on the side of the Congress? Can we at least keep the bastard in check?
Also...did anyone notice Michelle's dress? It was black with a red hour glass shape on the front...I thought "Black Widow" when I saw that.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:38:42am |
1479 goddess
"Here's the silver lining.
America has ended racism."
Do you mean that? Because I think we're going to be hearing more about "racism" than ever before.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:38:56am |
re: #1513 nonic
1479 goddess
"Here's the silver lining.
America has ended racism."Do you mean that? Because I think we're going to be hearing more about "racism" than ever before.
I tend to agree.
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SurferDoc Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:39:05am |
re: #1506 Lucius Septimius
True enough; that said, we need candidates who will pay attention to US and stop thinking like beltway insiders.
One question, though ... will venues like this survive the "fairness doctrine" and the Left's desire to crush dissent? That's one of the main dogs the MSM had in this fight methinks.
They will not be able to crush dissent. If they mess with the internet they will be messing with a million teenage hackers who will reduce them to tears. Besides, "dissent is the highest form of patriotism", right?
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NC State of Mind Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:40:11am |
re: #1512 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I went to bed as soon as Mac finished his concession speech..so how bad is it on the side of the Congress? Can we at least keep the bastard in check?
Also...did anyone notice Michelle's dress? It was black with a red hour glass shape on the front...I thought "Black Widow" when I saw that.
56 reds in congress.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:40:54am |
re: #1515 SurferDoc
Besides, "dissent is the highest form of patriotism", right?
Only if it means "hating America and the evil Rethuglicans."
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:41:02am |
re: #1514 Lucius Septimius
I'll third that one .There's a whole industry depending on the continuation of perpetual victimhood
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:41:17am |
re: #1509 goddessoftheclassroom
Oh, like, govern. It's a lot harder than criticizing.
Ah ha. Yes. For some mindsets, being in the opposition is a lot more satisfying than sticking one's neck out.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:41:43am |
re: #1516 NC State of Mind
56 reds in congress.
Where's Tail-Gunner Joe when we need him? Oh, that's right ... nestled up to that great bar in the sky ...
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:41:45am |
Please tell me Frankenstein did not get into the United States Senate. I just woke up, it's my birthday, and I have enough to swallow this morning.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:42:02am |
Well at least we got rid of Nick Lampson here...
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:42:11am |
re: #1518 mahatma coat
I'll third that one .There's a whole industry depending on the continuation of perpetual victimhood
And don't leave out the revenge/"restitution" factor.
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prince of dorkness Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:42:33am |
Re: #30
Having just logged in, was there a lot of that? I'd have thought that warning would not have been necessary here, because as we all know Lizards are the classiest of creatures.
PoD
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:43:28am |
re: #1516 NC State of Mind
56 reds in congress.
So Blinky and the gang can't bust the philibuster...silver lining, but only if the Republicans actually grow balls.
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scottishbuzzsaw Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:43:33am |
re: #1521 JohnAdams
Please tell me Frankenstein did not get into the United States Senate. I just woke up, it's my birthday, and I have enough to swallow this morning.
Happy Birthday anyway...
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:44:02am |
re: #1525 prince of dorkness
A few people stepped over the line and are now no longer with us. Comments were made and accounts deleted. Just waiting to see if anything else happens this afternoon.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:44:09am |
It's 3:43am and I have not started my assignment due tomorrow. Who the hell schedules an assignment due the day after such a big election?
Fuck.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:44:09am |
re: #1527 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
So Blinky and the gang can't bust the philibuster...silver lining, but only if the Republicans actually grow balls.
In that case, they need to start clicking on those spam emails pronto.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:44:31am |
re: #1523 Lucius Septimius
Heh,right ,restitution...I'm all for it .Anyone who was formerly a slave should come forward and get it
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:44:49am |
re: #1524 Lucius Septimius
Happy Birthday.
Thanks, Lucius. I will try not to be abuse my privileges as part of the moral minority. The sun still shines.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:44:59am |
re: #1530 TheMatrix31
It's 3:43am and I have not started my assignment due tomorrow. Who the hell schedules an assignment due the day after such a big election?
Fuck.
Since nearly all of my students were Obamaniacs, I'm thinking of giving a quiz worth 90% of their grade to my 8:00 class this morning.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:45:53am |
re: #1521 JohnAdams
Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday.
Doom, destruction and despair,
Grief and sorrow fill the air,
Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday.
You are going to die!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:45:54am |
re: #1531 Lucius Septimius
In that case, they need to start clicking on those spam emails pronto.
ROFL! I'd love to take one of your classes. What do you teach?
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NC State of Mind Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:46:24am |
re: #1529 BlueCanuck
A few people stepped over the line and are now no longer with us. Comments were made and accounts deleted. Just waiting to see if anything else happens this afternoon.
Who? I fell asleep on the couch in misery.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:46:27am |
re: goddess' point about "ending racism"
Racism has NOT been vanquished, but a major (perhaps its primary) symbolic underpining has been taken away.
The deal has changed. Should people continue clamoring (for example) for reparations, they will be painting themselves as vindictive.
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:46:34am |
re: #1530 TheMatrix31
It's 3:43am and I have not started my assignment due tomorrow. Who the hell schedules an assignment due the day after such a big election?
.
Tell your prof you were celebrating the election. 99% chance he/she is a marxist anyway.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:46:52am |
re: #1534 Lucius Septimius
Since nearly all of my students were Obamaniacs, I'm thinking of giving a quiz worth 90% of their grade to my 8:00 class this morning.
You should. I would.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:47:06am |
re: #1536 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
ROFL! I'd love to take one of your classes. What do you teach?
History and the occasional bit of political philosophy.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:47:13am |
re: #1513 nonic
1479 goddess
"Here's the silver lining.
America has ended racism."Do you mean that? Because I think we're going to be hearing more about "racism" than ever before.
I mean that "America" has ended racism. Obama's race did not preclude his election. Yes, ridiculous accusations were made that those who criticized him were racists, but he was elected decisively (thank God for that).
The WORST thing for race relations would be for the black community to "redress" past wrongs. That would keep the tensions brewing. I hope that they leave the past in the past and just go forward.
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Moishe Oofnik Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:47:17am |
NOW can we get that verkakte LA Times tape? Even if Barry did win, I'm still curious about that event and what happened there.
Living in Europe it's really annoying to see all the people around me "so happy for Americans having made the right choice" (excuse me while I gag). I wonder if any single one of them can actually tell me which issues they agree with BHO on.
Should I avoid visiting the US in the 4 coming years out of protest?
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:48:02am |
re: #1541 Lucius Septimius
History and the occasional bit of political philosophy.
Right up my alley, actually. Elizabethan history is a particular favorite of mine.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:48:08am |
re: #1537 NC State of Mind
Who? I fell asleep on the couch in misery.
Can't really say, it was a real zoo in here last night. I think Ozark Mountain Devil was one for sure. I will be glad when traffic resumes pre-election fever.
/I miss avatars.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:48:29am |
re: #1541 Lucius Septimius
the occasional bit of political philosophy
Sounds like the perfect name for a class.
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:48:45am |
re: #1535 Fat Vegetarian
Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday.
Doom, destruction and despair,
Grief and sorrow fill the air,
Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday.
You are going to die!
That makes me feel much better.
Extra rations of cabbage for the hamsters!
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yesandno Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:48:58am |
Today is the day we have to start taking things back.
First is to find the people who can lead who are Conservatives...both in words and in deeds.
Second is to understand that principle does matter and stop thinking of winning as the only goal in mind.
Third is to make every effort to support Conservatives at all levels of government...the local levels particularly.
Fourth, educate yourself on the issues so that you can correct misrepresntations when you hear them. Become a cheerful advocate for our cause because it is what America needs.
Fifth, educate your children to now the difference between entitlement and achievement.
And lastly, pray that the SOB running for the Dems in Minnesota's Senatorial race, goes down in defeat.
That alone would at least be a good start!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:49:10am |
re: #1542 goddessoftheclassroom
I mean that "America" has ended racism. Obama's race did not preclude his election. Yes, ridiculous accusations were made that those who criticized him were racists, but he was elected decisively (thank God for that).
The WORST thing for race relations would be for the black community to "redress" past wrongs. That would keep the tensions brewing. I hope that they leave the past in the past and just go forward.
But..but...what would Je$$ie do?
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Beller0ph1 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:49:58am |
I didn't get to sleep until around midnight, even though I went to bed at 9:30 PM. Guess where I am? Obamabot central. It was creepy hearing them chant "OBAMA OBAMA". I didn't need to see them, but images of German started creeping into my mind.
I honestly can't believe that half of America was hoodwinked by a socialist. What can we do to make sure that our conservative voices are still heard?
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:50:10am |
re: #1544 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I've taught a class called "The Age of Elizabeth" a few times. A mixture of biography and film. I still love the 1970 Glenda Jackson "Elizabeth R" series -- not only does it usually get the history right, it gives one a really accurate view of how the geography of the palace influenced the day-to-day working of politics.
As for the Cate Blanchett movies, let's just say she is a lovely woman. Aside from that, they got everything dead wrong.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:50:21am |
re: #1548 yesandno
Today is the day we have to start taking things back.
First is to find the people who can lead who are Conservatives...both in words and in deeds.
Second is to understand that principle does matter and stop thinking of winning as the only goal in mind.
Third is to make every effort to support Conservatives at all levels of government...the local levels particularly.
Fourth, educate yourself on the issues so that you can correct misrepresntations when you hear them. Become a cheerful advocate for our cause because it is what America needs.
Fifth, educate your children to now the difference between entitlement and achievement.
And lastly, pray that the SOB running for the Dems in Minnesota's Senatorial race, goes down in defeat.That alone would at least be a good start!
Finally, I think it's time the trendy expression "throw under the bus" was ... ummm ... you guessed it...
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:11am |
re: #1543 Moishe Oofnik
europeans (thats me too ) should realize their defenses (the US's) will be cut by 25%.Bambi might not be interested in defending them at all
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:15am |
re: #1543 Moishe Oofnik
NOW can we get that verkakte LA Times tape? Even if Barry did win, I'm still curious about that event and what happened there.
Living in Europe it's really annoying to see all the people around me "so happy for Americans having made the right choice" (excuse me while I gag). I wonder if any single one of them can actually tell me which issues they agree with BHO on.
Should I avoid visiting the US in the 4 coming years out of protest?
No, actually now's the time to come! The pillaging has not yet begun full force, and all the whiners have nothing to complain about.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:19am |
mahatma
lucius
goddess
Re continued claims of "racism."
People are going to expect RESULTS. The NYT is calling it "racial barriers down." That's what people want -- until EVERY minority person in the country is living just as well as ANY non-minority, it's going to be because, and ONLY because, of "racism." Obama has "proved" that blacks are "as good as" whites, so now "racism" can be the ONLY reason why everyone isn't equal.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:23am |
re: #1550 Beller0ph1
I didn't get to sleep until around midnight, even though I went to bed at 9:30 PM. Guess where I am? Obamabot central. It was creepy hearing them chant "OBAMA OBAMA". I didn't need to see them, but images of German started creeping into my mind.
I honestly can't believe that half of America was hoodwinked by a socialist. What can we do to make sure that our conservative voices are still heard?
Well, for starters, if the remaining repubs don't grow a pair, then we have to get going with electing actual conservatives...this begins with the primaries...
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Beller0ph1 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:25am |
re: #1550 Beller0ph1
"German" was supposed to be "Germany". PIMF, and I'm tired already from the lack of sleep... This is going to be a long day.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:30am |
re: #1534 Lucius Septimius
Since nearly all of my students were Obamaniacs, I'm thinking of giving a quiz worth 90% of their grade to my 8:00 class this morning.
Do it, then redistribute the grades to those who didn't do so well.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:52am |
re: #1542 goddessoftheclassroom
The WORST thing for race relations would be for the black community to "redress" past wrongs. That would keep the tensions brewing. I hope that they leave the past in the past and just go forward.
I'm not optimistic. The "W.E.B. DuBois virus" (victimhood) has become too deeply imbedded in the black American community over the past 45 years.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:53:11am |
re: #1551 Lucius Septimius
I've taught a class called "The Age of Elizabeth" a few times. A mixture of biography and film. I still love the 1970 Glenda Jackson "Elizabeth R" series -- not only does it usually get the history right, it gives one a really accurate view of how the geography of the palace influenced the day-to-day working of politics.
As for the Cate Blanchett movies, let's just say she is a lovely woman. Aside from that, they got everything dead wrong.
Dittos on Glanda Jackson and Kate...the costumes are nice, but that's about all. Oh, and Christopher Eccleston played Norfolk in the first movie.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:53:18am |
re: #1550 Beller0ph1
I honestly can't believe that half of America was hoodwinked by a socialist. What can we do to make sure that our conservative voices are still heard?
Congratulate them, and with an earnest and curious smile asked them precisely what Obama is going to do to help America. Don't relent until they've given you a reasonable list of actual policies/programs/initiatives. Ask how each one will be paid for and what effect raising taxes will have and the economy. And keep smiling.
All that is required is to instill seeds of doubt in their minds; the disappointment they are going to feel after his first hundred days will be sufficient fertilizer.
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phil flavin Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:53:50am |
Got this from a moonbat friend this morning.
Let me know as soon as you find out what happened with that election thing. I fell asleep. Thanks a million!
Your Very Good Friend,
Barack Obama
To which I replied:
As it turns out, you won! Congratulations.
The Syrians moved an additional 7,000 troops to the border with Lebanon. Iran still has 14000 centrifuges spinning, making nuclear material. Russian troops are still in Georgia, and the EU is still completely complacent. The economy is still on shaky ground, and the markets are nervous.
These are all now your problems. When things go wrong, it is now your fault!
Better get another “uplifting” speech ready
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:53:59am |
Don't really agree with what's being said about race here but I'm outnumbered and wouldn't get any traction; besides, everyone's touchy because of the election.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:54:03am |
1538 pre-boomer
"The deal has changed. Should people continue clamoring (for example) for reparations, they will be painting themselves as vindictive."
I think just the opposite. I think now that "the tide has turned," issues like reparations will come to the fore and HAVE TO be taken more seriously.
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:54:22am |
If I must find a positive aspect to all of this, I think that this election effectively extinguishes the Clinton's torch. Obama vanquished the Red Queen and proved that Clinton is not necessary to win. He would not temp fate by including her in his inner circle because there is no need. And the minions of her machine will move to the winner. She will have to be a Senator only.
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SurferDoc Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:55:09am |
re: #1563 Moe Katz
Don't really agree with what's being said about race here but I'm outnumbered and wouldn't get any traction; besides, everyone's touchy because of the election.
I feel the same, if I read you correctly.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:55:13am |
re: #1565 tappin52
If I must find a positive aspect to all of this, I think that this election effectively extinguishes the Clinton's torch. Obama vanquished the Red Queen and proved that Clinton is not necessary to win. He would not temp fate by including her in his inner circle because there is no need. And the minions of her machine will move to the winner. She will have to be a Senator only.
I know too many folks who were satisfied with seeing her beat and then conceded the election to Obama.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:56:33am |
OK, gotta get ready to go to work. Keep chumming the waters of indignation, my friends.
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esch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:56:35am |
The irony of the Boomer's retirement being taken away from them and redistributed to their spoiled, feckless kids and grandkids puts a sour, bitterly bemused smirk on my face.
Law of unintended consequences, mofo!
None of my lib relatives get any sympathy or help from me when they're out of work. Fucking starve.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:57:01am |
re: #1566 SurferDoc
I feel the same, if I read you correctly.
Discretion is the better part of valor.
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:57:05am |
I know several regular voting Repubs who turned coat and went to the "right side of history" yesterday. I am going to be somebody they don't want to see every time Chairman Zero brings out a new shackle.
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yesandno Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:57:23am |
re: #1542 goddessoftheclassroom
I mean that "America" has ended racism. Obama's race did not preclude his election. Yes, ridiculous accusations were made that those who criticized him were racists, but he was elected decisively (thank God for that).
The WORST thing for race relations would be for the black community to "redress" past wrongs. That would keep the tensions brewing. I hope that they leave the past in the past and just go forward.
You mean like yesterday's election? I would like Oprah and the others to redress that.
/
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:57:58am |
re: #1564 nonic
1538 pre-boomer
"The deal has changed. Should people continue clamoring (for example) for reparations, they will be painting themselves as vindictive."
I think just the opposite. I think now that "the tide has turned," issues like reparations will come to the fore and HAVE TO be taken more seriously.
See goddess' 1542, and my reply at 1559
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Simple Voice Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:59:30am |
We'll manage. If we have to go through some pain to toughen up or learn our lessons, so be it. Americans have gone through much tougher times and turned out the better for it. And let us not stop praying.
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Piglet-U93 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:59:31am |
re: #1572 Moe Katz
Discretion is the better part of valor.
That will only get you as far as PC dialogue will allow.
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:00:23am |
re: #1574 yesandno
You mean like yesterday's election? I would like Oprah and the others to redress that.
/
The tears of Oprah and Jesse turned the Chicago River into milk and honey last night. Didn't you hear?
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Pitiricus Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:01:00am |
I have decided to cancell my subscription to the local paper and never to even look at Oprah again...
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:01:00am |
Hope springs eternal. Maybe Obama lied to get elected and will follow his centrists economic advisor's. Maybe he will disappoint his LLL supporters and show steel when tested. Maybe he will be a staunch friend of Israel. Maybe he will be like another inexperienced President from Illinois and be a Lincoln and not a Prius.
Maybe.
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SurferDoc Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:01:17am |
re: #1578 Piglet-U93
That will only get you as far as PC dialogue will allow.
There are very few things I wish I had said and did not. There are many things I wish I had not said.
Your mileage may vary.
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puckish and beguiling Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:01:57am |
I cannot express how depressed and discouraged I am at this moment. My American History prof. used to say "Never underestimate the public's capacity for stupidity."
Not looking forward to going to work for all the gloating.
See you Lizards tonight.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:02:24am |
been on lgf for 20 of the past 24 hours.I've really got to get a life ...later lizards.Chin up shoulders back,I've great faith in the citizens and their constitution
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:02:41am |
1542 goddess
"Obama's race did not preclude his election. "
Oh, see, I think he was elected BECAUSE he's (half) black.
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yesandno Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:02:53am |
re: #1564 nonic
1538 pre-boomer
"The deal has changed. Should people continue clamoring (for example) for reparations, they will be painting themselves as vindictive."
I think just the opposite. I think now that "the tide has turned," issues like reparations will come to the fore and HAVE TO be taken more seriously.
This has always been about reparations... That is what redistribution of wealth is about in Obama's mind.
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esch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:03:23am |
re: #1586 yesandno
This has always been about reparations... That is what redistribution of wealth is about in Obama's mind.
BINGO
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Piglet-U93 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:03:59am |
re: #1582 SurferDoc
There are very few things I wish I had said and did not. There are many things I wish I had not said.
Your mileage may vary.
Yes, my mileage does vary and I pay the price for each mile.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:04:02am |
This thread is going to get positively enormous before Charles arises. I'm going to bow out, and check back in on the next one.
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JohnAdams Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:04:17am |
re: #1581 rancher
Hope springs eternal. Maybe Obama lied to get elected and will follow his centrists economic advisor's. Maybe he will disappoint his LLL supporters and show steel when tested. Maybe he will be a staunch friend of Israel. Maybe he will be like another inexperienced President from Illinois and be a Lincoln and not a Prius.
Maybe.
If that happens, it will only be after the requisite 6 months of pillaging by Pelosi/Reid.
Seeing the fat f$*k John Murtha taking his victory lap...er...walk...er roll last night was the fuse.
Seeing Frankenstein win today would be the match.
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SurferDoc Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:04:55am |
re: #1588 Piglet-U93
Yes, my mileage does vary and I pay the price for each mile.
Me too. No offense intended, BTW.
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:05:03am |
re: #1584 mahatma coat
been on lgf for 20 of the past 24 hours.I've really got to get a life ...later lizards.Chin up shoulders back,I've great faith in the citizens and their constitution
I had faith in real Americans. The vote last night proved it was misplaced.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:05:08am |
re: #1578 Piglet-U93
That will only get you as far as PC dialogue will allow.
I'm running an Intel laptop with Windows XP, so PC dialogue is what you get.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:07:05am |
1543 Moishe
"Living in Europe it's really annoying to see all the people around me "so happy for Americans having made the right choice" (excuse me while I gag). I wonder if any single one of them can actually tell me which issues they agree with BHO on."
That's because YOU're not a racist -- you think voting should be based on issues.
And they ARE -- they think voting for the black man was the "right" thing to do, regardless of his policies.
Don't worry. Europe will fall badly out of love with Barack when he withdraws the American military protecting the EU collective ass and wrecks our and their economies.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:09:32am |
I don't know a thing about this source (if it's inaccurate or untrustworthy in some way, I'd appreciate a heads up), but someone was asking earlier about the percentage of the Jewish vote going to Obama - this claims it was 77%, higher than the percentage that voted for Kerry:
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:09:56am |
Well, one thing I got from this is a new respect for John McCain. I didn't know him very well before this, but I think that he is one of the classiest people in politics.
I teared up during his concession speech. It was one of the most gracious I've ever heard.
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Piglet-U93 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:10:03am |
re: #1591 SurferDoc
Me too. No offense intended, BTW.
No problem. I get in trouble no matter where I am. Job, home, family, meeting new people. I speak my mind about the threat of Islam and praise the goodness of conservatism and my love for America.
Scr&w PC and the Ministry of Truth.
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esch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:10:16am |
re: #1594 nonic
Don't worry. Europe will fall badly out of love with Barack when he withdraws the American military protecting the EU collective ass and wrecks our and their economies.
Doubt it.
I will point this out to lib acquaintances with rabid, savage glee however. I doubt I'm going to survive this shitstorm.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:10:16am |
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:10:37am |
I haven't had faith in the American public since Clinton won his second term. Come on guys you live here, look around you, we are few and the idiots are many.
Idiocracy rules.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:11:49am |
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greenbear Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:11:58am |
re: #1583 puckish and beguiling
"Never underestimate the public's capacity for stupidity."
I'm with you.
It just goes to show what one man can do with just his two hands and hours of sweat...plus $700 million, the main media in your pocket and an electorate who believes in the phrase, "How bad can he be?"
I guess we'll find out.
Now we have to work hard for the next two years and sweep out the Democrats to keep the damage to a minimum. Providing we're all still around by then.
You know, half the skinheads out there were hoping for this so we could have that revolution they've been wanting.
Could get real interesting in the next few months. Me? I'm quitting my job and going on the dole. Barack is paying my mortgage and buying my gas! Isn't he?
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PISSED Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:12:05am |
GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!
I have been searching the news for rioting and looting in conservative neighborhoods... anybody see any?
Oh well I'm off to the Unicorn store to get pixie dust and free gas, and when I get to work I will call my mortgage company and expect to see a zero balance on next months statement.. great country huh?
/MAJOR SARC
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:12:09am |
In light of the upcoming attack on our country or our interests, I am buying a deep freezer and stockpiling meat. I am also stocking up on batteries and those flashlights that can be charged by cranking a handle...same with a radio.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:12:33am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:12:57am |
re: #1596 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
It broke my heart when he said, "The failure is mine, not yours."
No, John. It was ours (Oskar Schindler mode again...dang!).
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:13:27am |
re: #1600 rancher
Very true. We will see what the 'morrow brings.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:13:45am |
re: #1605 capitalist piglet
Exit polling is highly suspect...that's all I can figure to explain it.
To tell the truth I wouldn't be that surprised :(
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Piglet-U93 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:14:01am |
re: #1604 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
In light of the upcoming attack on our country or our interests, I am buying a deep freezer and stockpiling meat. I am also stocking up on batteries and those flashlights that can be charged by cranking a handle...same with a radio.
Dry foods like rice and plenty of water do not require power to maintain.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:14:32am |
re: #1607 tappin52
Very true. We will see what the 'morrow brings.
Yer right! It is the morrow. I am up, and going to work.
C'mon Lord. Just not Franken, Lord. Just not Franken.
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marge45b Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:14:34am |
I'll cling to my guns and religion while president-elect Government gloats a victory. I have a message to the remaining repubs keep your hands out of the cookie jar, keep your noses clean and will whip 'em in two years!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:14:36am |
re: #1609 Piglet-U93
Dry foods like rice and plenty of water do not require power to maintain.
I have tons of that stuff too...
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:14:36am |
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:15:11am |
re: #1609 Piglet-U93
Dry foods like rice and plenty of water do not require power to maintain.
Don't forget beans and pasta. Hmmm, yeast, flour, sugar, spices. . . .
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:16:09am |
re: #1614 BlueCanuck
Don't forget beans and pasta. Hmmm, yeast, flour, sugar, spices. . . .
Propane and charcoal (I have a propane grill and a charcoal grill)...
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yesandno Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:16:27am |
re: #1596 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Well, one thing I got from this is a new respect for John McCain. I didn't know him very well before this, but I think that he is one of the classiest people in politics.
I teared up during his concession speech. It was one of the most gracious I've ever heard.
And through out the campaign as well. When your life has been tested as his has, you understand the really important aspects of life.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:16:56am |
re: #1608 Moe Katz
To tell the truth I wouldn't be that surprised :(
It's hard to say what compels people to vote for their own demise. Over the half the country did just that, imo. I don't get it.
This guy is in over his head, and it's going to be apparent very quickly, I'm afraid.
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Spiritualized Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:17:35am |
re: #1594 nonic
1543 Moishe
"Living in Europe it's really annoying to see all the people around me "so happy for Americans having made the right choice" (excuse me while I gag). I wonder if any single one of them can actually tell me which issues they agree with BHO on."
My fellow Brits know precisely squat about Obama, he is the American Idol winner, it is that simple, as opposed to the "old man and that stupid bible-thumping woman." Most people don't care though, it's just al-Guardian/Independent readers and those that think the BBC licence fee tax is a great idea, they have the loudest voices.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:17:41am |
re: #1616 yesandno
I agree...which is why I am so disappointed at his loss last night.
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Moe Katz Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:18:12am |
re: #1617 capitalist piglet
It's hard to say what compels people to vote for their own demise. Over the half the country did just that, imo. I don't get it.
This guy is in over his head, and it's going to be apparent very quickly, I'm afraid.
And I'm afraid you're right.
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Piglet-U93 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:18:35am |
re: #1613 rancher
Most American Jews don't give a rat's ass about Israel.
Last year I went to a Jewish center for a course on the worlds religions and found most supported the "palestinian cause". When we got to Islam I did my best to infom them. Needless to say the center do not send me any more invitations.
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PISSED Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:18:49am |
re: #1617 capitalist piglet
IMHO.. I think the BDS crowd was much larger than expected and they voted against the past NOT THINKNG ABOUT THE FUTURE..
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:19:20am |
re: #1616 yesandno
And through out the campaign as well. When your life has been tested as his has, you understand the really important aspects of life.
But what we need to pay attention to is that the Communist forces that tested McCain's mettle have their noses under OUR tent.
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PISSED Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:20:38am |
re: #1623 tappin52
I think the just shoved their ass under our tent : )
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:22:08am |
Good morning comrades and congrats to our new Socialist/Marxist overlords.
Look for the market to trend down at the open today as the overnight futures are in the red.
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Piglet-U93 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:23:07am |
re: #1624 PISSED
I think the just shoved their ass under our tent : )
We ARE infiltrated at many levels.
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PISSED Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:25:07am |
re: #1626 Piglet-U93
Its sad... this is from MM.. look at the re-elections my god this country is IN TROUBLE
Corruptocrat/smear merchant John Murtha wins.
Corruptocrat/bribe freezer William “Cold Cash” Jefferson cruises to victory.
Corruptocrat/convicted criminal Sen. Ted Stevens is in a dead heat and may yet win re-election even as he faces up to five years in prison for seven counts of lying.
If this is the “Change” election, what the hell are these three most miserable miscreants still doing in Congress?
Could the transformational agents of change kindly explain?
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hooligan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:25:59am |
Just woke up.
Nope, not a bad dream. The King of Pork is returning in PA, Congress has their rubber stamp (and vice versa) and I just saw a clip last night with a young Obama supporter waiving the hammer and sickle flag---the little twit either not caring or ignorant of all the people that "went away" under Uncle Joe.
I am not proud of the voters who elected Barack Obama. I am not convinced that Senator Government will not become President Puppet for the people that financed his campaign.
But I do think that history will demand something of us. I know prosperity has made me soft. I know that people with moral courage and with faith and strength will have the opportunity to offer resistance to the wicked and support to the suffering. And I know from history that all that comes at a high personal cost.
Today I change.
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Piglet-U93 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:26:23am |
re: #1625 3 wood
Good morning comrades and congrats to our new Socialist/Marxist overlords.
Look for the market to trend down at the open today as the overnight futures are in the red.
The market for the most part (67%) is unaware of BHO's ideology and plans. Many will lose out.
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:26:26am |
re: #1613 rancher
Most American Jews don't give a rat's ass about Israel.
Well, it sure did not take Hamas long to celebrate Obama's win:
Rockets fired after Gaza clashes
Hamas has fired multiple rockets into Israel hours after six fighters died during Israel's first major incursion into the Gaza Strip since June's truce.
Israel said 35 rockets and mortars were fired, but gave no word on casualties.
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SevoGuy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:26:44am |
1594 nonic
1543 Moishe
European Union socialist programs are only possible because the EU doesn't put much money into it's defense. The USA pays an extremely large portion toward NATO. If the USA pulls it's troops and monetary support out of NATO, it will cost the EU approximately 10% of it's GNP. There goes socialism in Europe if we bring home the troops.
As far as I am concerned with Obummer as the President, we have put up the white flag of surrender on the war on islamic terrorism. Bring home the troops ASAP and have them protect the homeland. Now it's only a matter of time before we are hit again. Then Americans will look at the Bush Presidency and realize he kept this country safe during his administration.
For the next 4 years I will be economically frugal so as to watch our economy go down the tubes. I will no longer support unions. I will divest from the stock market and wait for regime change in 2012. The country is doomed. Now I am in salvage mode.
The one solace I do have is this:
When Jimmy Carter almost destroyed this country, we came back a much stronger country.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:26:52am |
All my fellow Washingtonians are probably sleeping, but the good news is that Dave Reichert (the Green River killer was nabbed on his watch as King County Sheriff) has overtaken the moron Darcy "I Loved Economics So Much I Got A Degree In It, From Harvard...Oops, No I Didn't" Burner. Just a few hundred votes separate them, but Reichert was behind for a while.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:27:18am |
What always surprises me - and it shouldn't - is a corrupt populace voting for corrupt, hand in the till candidates - mostly democrats. I think this election reveals the profound corruption of people, and their self-centered desires to have someone give them something.
Any business owner laying people off should put a notice in the last paycheck that says: An Obama job cut.
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shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:27:33am |
I recall that the noted media aristocrat Whoopi Goldberg was concerned she might be enslaved after the election. Turns out she was right.
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joncelli Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:28:28am |
Good morning lizards. I went to bed early when it became clear that it was a blowout, and I'm glad I did. Basically, I'm at peace with myself: I did what I could, things didn't turn out the way I wanted, but the process worked and we made a transition of power in a peaceful and democratic way, something relatively few societies can say. We should be proud of the process, if not happy with the result.
The other thing that puts me at peace is the thought of handing off the baton. One way or another, Republicans have been carrying the heavy burden of governance through 8 of the toughest years since the Vietnam era while the Democrats sniped from the sidelines. This is our opportunity to go into opposition and let the other guys carry the backpack for a while. That being the case, it's up to us to keep our criticism respectful but tough, continuous but not corrosive, and above all useful. Let's not fall into ODS. This is our chance to prove that we're better than them. Let's not blow it.
And now, off to my place of employment. Sleep it off, friends, we've got lots of hard work in front of us.
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:28:39am |
re: #1630 Piglet-U93
The market for the most part (67%) is unaware of BHO's ideology and plans. Many will lose out.
By next April they will get a real good education.
By the way, now that an African-American has been elected President, anybody think the Democrats will now drop their "America is racist" politics?
Me neither.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:28:47am |
Well, I have to get to work, I have millions of people to support. I also have to find a place to shelter my 401k money for when BO takes the tax advantages for that away.
Have a nice day Lizards.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:29:10am |
re: #1625 3 wood
Good morning comrades and congrats to our new Socialist/Marxist overlords.
Look for the market to trend down at the open today as the overnight futures are in the red.
But ... but ... it was the "BUSH ECONOMIC PLAN" that was the problem! The Market WANTS to be regulated!
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:29:21am |
re: #1632 SevoGuy
1594 nonic
1543 MoisheEuropean Union socialist programs are only possible because the EU doesn't put much money into it's defense. The USA pays an extremely large portion toward NATO. If the USA pulls it's troops and monetary support out of NATO, it will cost the EU approximately 10% of it's GNP. There goes socialism in Europe if we bring home the troops.
As far as I am concerned with Obummer as the President, we have put up the white flag of surrender on the war on islamic terrorism. Bring home the troops ASAP and have them protect the homeland. Now it's only a matter of time before we are hit again. Then Americans will look at the Bush Presidency and realize he kept this country safe during his administration.
For the next 4 years I will be economically frugal so as to watch our economy go down the tubes. I will no longer support unions. I will divest from the stock market and wait for regime change in 2012. The country is doomed. Now I am in salvage mode.
The one solace I do have is this:
When Jimmy Carter almost destroyed this country, we came back a much stronger country.
I'm convinced that our public school educated population are not system thinkers and simply don't see how the economy really works. So let them live a real life example - let the re-education on a grand scale begin now.
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greenbear Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:30:14am |
re: #1617 capitalist piglet
It's hard to say what compels people to vote for their own demise.
Our friends and neighbors: "What? I thought you were going to vote against Obama. Oh, what a silly mix-up! Oh well, how bad can it get? la-de-dah..."
It's a bad sitcom.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:30:18am |
re: #1637 3 wood
By next April they will get a real good education.
By the way, now that an African-American has been elected President, anybody think the Democrats will now drop their "America is racist" politics?
Me neither.
Hardly -- it's pay-back time, baby. Git out yer wallet and start feeling the love.
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joncelli Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:30:48am |
re: #1636 joncelli
Sigh. I shouldn't employ metaphors before I've finished my first cup of coffee.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:31:19am |
re: #1640 DistantThunder
I'm convinced that our public school educated population are not system thinkers and simply don't see how the economy really works. So let them live a real life example - let the re-education on a grand scale begin now.
My sense is this is what happens from not teaching American history to an entire generation. They don't know anything about politics or government; they think the president is some kind of magician-king.
Oh that we could find another Calvin Coolidge ...
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Lucius Septimius Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:31:35am |
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:31:57am |
Well time for me to log off. Chins up lizards, we will survive this. Stay scaly.
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:32:23am |
re: #1625 3 wood
Trend down? I just hope it stays above 9000. The possibility of an Obama win may have been factored in but the fact has not.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:33:18am |
re: #1622 PISSED
IMHO.. I think the BDS crowd was much larger than expected and they voted against the past NOT THINKNG ABOUT THE FUTURE..
There was some of that, to be sure...I think the media's refusal to connect the dots of Obama's life story/associations really hurt us, too. A lot of American voters are pretty lazy about what they're willing to learn going into an election, it seems. If you can't cram the information into their limited attention span, they'll just go with the guy they "like", or that the media is telling them to "like".
Now watch - when things jolt left like a Ford Pinto with a blown tire, Americans will be shocked that Obama is a radical leftist with radical leftist friends.
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StudSupreme Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:33:42am |
None of you have a clue.
I saw in a previous post that someone sighted a poll which indicated 80% or so of Americans self-classified as "somewhat conservative" or "conservative."
But I would have figured that y'all would know at this point how useless polls can be...
And consider that this 80% voted enough for The Messiah to give him a landslide victory.
Remember Ron Reagan?
He beat Jimmy Carter, but just. And this was during a time when ol' Jimmy had presided over the foundation of Islamic Theocracy and the holding of hostages in Iran, gas lines, 12.5% inflation, 21% interest rates, and 8% unemployment. Reagan should have blown Jimmy's doors off - but he didn't.
We also had EIGHT YEARS of Clinton, and the stirrings of revolt after his heir designate Gore essentially tied in 2000.
Folks: their hasn't been a conservative 'silent majority' since the '72 Nixon win over McGovern. America has been steadily moving left for a good 40 years, and it's happened thru our educational system and the media, which have both self-selected leftists over time.
The BEST you can say about the American political landscape now is that perhaps 1/3 are true conservatives, 1/3 are VERY left wing, and the middle 1/3 kind of drift, though more often to the left than the right.
Haven't you noticed the creep of 'politically correct' thought, speech, writing and media over these last 3 decades? Do you realize that even TEN YEARS AGO it got to the point where Warner Brothers execs had all of the old Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes cartoons - cultural treasures, literal works of art that captured a time and society - edited because of excessive 'violence'? Can't you see how even WE - who try to hold onto the best of conservative values passed down from our forefathers - don't feel comfortable talking about things in a straightforward manner, never calling a spade a spade, but using terms like "that's unfortunate" when the proper and accurate phrase is "that guy is a complete asshole!" ?
The left now dominates the political, educational and media landscape. And today, they voted more power to the central government, gave a MARXIST the keys to the WHite House, strengthened the hand of Daily Kos, Move On and all the other far left loons by further reinforcing Dhimmicrat domination in Congress, and gave the go-ahead for the first full-fledged creation of an overwhelmingly debt-laden nanny state.
Take care of your kids. Teach them what's right. But also teach them that they're unlikely to get their virtuous behavior rewarded, because virtue is now officially passe.
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godfrey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:33:50am |
Good morning everyone
Well, I was one of those whose confidence in American common sense led to my believing that the silent majority would elect McCain in a landslide, given the Obama alternative. I was wrong.
It seems the majority of Americans have just rolled the dice on a completely inexperienced and badly-connected guy. As a country, we are going to reap very bitter fruit for it, and it won't take long. Our enjoying the apparent symbolism of his winning will be replaced by denial and confusion.
The real winners here are the leftist ivy-league guys and gals, who have been resenting their time in the wilderness with an intensity you cannot believe. Obama's presidency will be a huge, huge gravy train for them. The "Department of Peace" will be one of them. Control of the judiciary will be another. They also consider themselves as having a mandate, so you can kiss any hopes of regaining control of many universities goodbye forever.
Some say "country first" now, and I'm not sure if there's any irony in that. Too many injustices have been done in that name, and too many freedoms curtailed or eliminated. I won't put a socialist country first, that's for sure, and I hope many of us can agree that taking care of ourselves and each other as individuals, with dignity as individuals, takes precedence over any slogan.
I'll enjoy the next four years in opposition. God knows there will be plenty to oppose. One has to specialize.
By the way, Killgore, on a macro scale the country is tilting center-left. Isn't that what you want?
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:33:57am |
Last night I listened to a radio talk show as Obama supporter after Obama supporter called in to gloat and rub conservatives noses into the dirt.
The host asked them what specific policies Obama was going to implement. None of the callers could do so.
The MSM guest commentator kept saying that the host was being unfair.
Now the hard work for the sewer rats in the MSM really starts. They will have to pretend that this Marxist empty suit actually is productive.
I think they will continue to blame Bush for everything.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:33:58am |
Time to bring out the lawyer jokes, or the terrorist jokes, or the communist jokes, or the scrawny guy jokes, or the hen-pecked husband jokes, or the stinky liberal jokes, or the taxman jokes, or the corrupt politician jokes.
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greenbear Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:34:11am |
re: #1620 Moe Katz
And I'm afraid you're right.
Now, come on. Barack has his old friend, Magic 8 Ball, to guide him through the rough patches.
Problem is, what will SNL make fun of now. They're sure gonna stay away from BHO.
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VioletTiger Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:34:17am |
re: #1513 nonic
1479 goddess
"Here's the silver lining.
America has ended racism."Do you mean that? Because I think we're going to be hearing more about "racism" than ever before.
I wish racism was ended. Instead I think all the cries of racism these past months have stoked fading embers. Racism will be gone when it is not a factor for or against. As long as people make choices based on race, we still have racism.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:35:17am |
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:35:29am |
I hope my fellow Americans stay proud of themselves for electing an Affirmative Action president when unemployment hits 20 per cent.
I am disgusted.
Get your free shit while you can, assholes.
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:35:54am |
re: #1640 DistantThunder
I'm convinced that our public school educated population are not system thinkers and simply don't see how the economy really works. So let them live a real life example - let the re-education on a grand scale begin now.
We have two generations of people who grew up being taught by the sewer rats in the MSM and in the universities that Marxism is a good thing.
Now they will get a real education.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:36:13am |
Gonna take the day off... see you guys in the morning.
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Jeff S. Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:37:58am |
I feel like Chuck Heston at the end of Planet of the Apes.
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shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:38:01am |
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:38:20am |
great ... now there's Geraldo to put up with. My headache won't go away!
morning, Lizards.
sad day in Mudville, uh?
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Fredlike Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:38:31am |
Next step for Bush,
Get list of all senior administration figures that did not betray him. Issue proactive pardons to all. 1 week before Barry is sworn in resign, let Cheney give him (bush) a proactive pardon. This will of course also mess with the lefts heads to have had Cheney president.
Unlike Bush who did not pursue charges against the Clinton administration I do not see the Democrats holding back. They also need to distract from the disaster the economy is going to be by 2010.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:38:35am |
KKKling to your Oprah and Jerry Springer, you freaks. Why not let THEM defend your constitutional rights?
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:38:49am |
Last night my formerly apolitical girlfriend turned to me with angry tears in her eyes. She said:
"I am angry. When my husband [first husband] left me I had two kids and no money. I was able to struggle threw it and never asked for help [from the government]. Why should I try to do what is right? Tomorrow, go on the web and find out how I can sign up for WIC"
I don't think she can qualify but I am going to look anyway. She has yet to read the copy of Atlas Shrugged - and Ayn Rand would not approve of taking welfare - but this is here way of going quasi-John-Galt.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:39:49am |
Our affirmative action president
No governing experience.
No executive experience.
No military experience.
No business experience.
No energy experience.
No gravitas.
But maybe he will do as good a job lying to our enemies, as he did to the people in the suburbs.
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:40:49am |
re: #1648 rancher
Trend down? I just hope it stays above 9000. The possibility of an Obama win may have been factored in but the fact has not.
Look for significant inflation.
The Marxist overlords will spend money on a scale that will make Bush look like a frugal old lady.
Look for Obama to surrender quickly on Iraq.
Look for Iran to attack Israel about 2pm on January 21st.
Look for the MSM to keep whoring themselves out to the Democrats on an enormous scale.
Look for the left to look for hand outs from the taxpayer on an unheard of scale.
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nucular_option Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:41:26am |
The sun came up this morning in my part of the planet. I'm sure it'll do the same tomorrow morning. We will prevail. We are Americans.
Country first.
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SteveC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:41:28am |
re: #1602 greenbear
Me? I'm quitting my job and going on the dole. Barack is paying my mortgage and buying my gas! Isn't he?
Peggy goes first! The rest of us get a proportional amount based on our supp... aw, screw it. We're SOL.
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Fredlike Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:42:15am |
Prediction Barry's first day in office he will fire all the US attorneys, just like Clinton, need to stop any budding investigations of the corruption in the elections or Barry's past.
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:42:57am |
And here I just realized that Tina Fey won't be leaving this world, it has ruined my morning. Here's hoping Obama's tax plan hurts that bitch more than bad ratings.
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greenbear Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:43:06am |
re: #1636 joncelli
This is our chance to prove that we're better than them. Let's not blow it.
OK, but after I go throgh the next few months of "get over it" from all the gloating nitwits out there, you have to allow me some smug satisfaction for the next four years...
Let me dust it off right now "I told you so!" Good. It still works. :)
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:43:43am |
Never before in my life have I been ashamed of my fellow citizens.
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:43:45am |
President Barack Hussein Obama
I'm sick. Absolutely sick. God help us.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:44:05am |
re: #1657 MandyManners
I hope my fellow Americans stay proud of themselves for electing an Affirmative Action president when unemployment hits 20 per cent.
Hey!
Gay marriage in Ca. is going down.
52-48
your liberal marriage agendas are being rejected by your liberal voters.
/touch Barry s robe he will save your relationships.
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:44:57am |
Why did Palin and McCain feel the need to seek approval by appearing on SNL? Can't figure that one out...
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seekeroftruth Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:45:26am |
Obama promised a lot of people a lot of things that he can not deliver. We are in for " interesting" times.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:45:27am |
re: #1673 soxfan4life
And here I just realized that Tina Fey won't be leaving this world, it has ruined my morning. Here's hoping Obama's tax plan hurts that bitch more than bad ratings.
Those Marxist freaks at SNL will love having the fruits of their labors confiscated.
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shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:45:35am |
re: #1657 MandyManners
I hope my fellow Americans stay proud of themselves for electing an Affirmative Action president when unemployment hits 20 per cent.
I am disgusted.
Get your free shit while you can, assholes.
"Tyranny is forced upon some, while others bring it upon themselves."
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:47:18am |
Charles will be dissappointed with that result.(not me though)
re: #1677 ibmkeyboard
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:47:31am |
Look at it this way - his policies will fail because on principal they are corrupt - and have failed everywhere - so we will have real world examples to teach our children - while we reassess our educational arrangements.
Looks like this Overthrow by the Order of Sith has been brewing under our noses. The demoralization process of the population has allowed it to happen as they no longer have moral filters that recognize corruption and malfeasance.
Save your money, slow expenditures, when the tax refunds or whatever they are called come - save, save, save. Punish the overlords.
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:48:15am |
In much brighter news, my state retained ALL of its conservative members by wide margins, and elected conservatives in what were previously liberal-held State offices! Plus, we gained a majority of Conservatives in the State Senate for only the second time in State history!
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:48:20am |
re: #1677 ibmkeyboard
Hey!
Gay marriage in Ca. is going down.
52-48
your liberal marriage agendas are being rejected by your liberal voters./touch Barry s robe he will save your relationships.
I just caught the end and didn't hear what happened. that's pretty amazing. wonder what the libs will think of that?
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SteveC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:04am |
re: #1678 6pat6
Why did Palin and McCain feel the need to seek approval by appearing on SNL? Can't figure that one out...
I don't know either. It certainly seemed to me that the audience was laughing at them, not with them.
Future GOP Candidate (Hopefully): "No, I'm not going on SNL, Oprah, Letterman, or any other forms of mindless entertainment. These are serious times, and they call for serious people. Don't ask again."
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:08am |
re: #1677 ibmkeyboard
Hey!
Gay marriage in Ca. is going down.
52-48
your liberal marriage agendas are being rejected by your liberal voters./touch Barry s robe he will save your relationships.
Ya' know, I really don't give a shit about that. What matters is that this nation has elected a fucking COMMIE BASTARD as president.
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nonic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:30am |
1598 esch
There was an opinion piece in a British newspaper a few weeks back saying, "Look, we're all going to hate Barack Obama, too, if he becomes president. That's just the way we feel about America."
Cute. N'est-ce pas? And I think there's a lot of truth in it. Obama thinks he's golden. He ain't.
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:41am |
re: #1675 MandyManners
Never before in my life have I been ashamed of my fellow citizens.
There is a conservative radio host (I cannot remember his name right now) who says "Conservatives see the world as it is, liberals see it has they want it to be."
We are smart enough to recognize their is evil in the world. We are smart enough to realize that moral-hazards can lead otherwise good people do bad things. We should be smart enough to recognize that we have been moving towards this event for years.
Republicans have never rolled back the progress of the left. The Education Department is still here. No major entitlement has ever been ended. The only thing the Republicans do is slow things down but they never change the course or reverse direction.
Don't be ashamed of your fellow Americans. Recognize them for what they are.
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:44am |
re: #1668 taxfreekiller
How is that milk toast country club I'm just like a Democrat , "RINO" shit working for ya now.!
100% dead bang on target.
The Republicans had better stop their namby-pamby "let's all get along" bullcrap and right now.
I want a return to conservative values, cut spending, a strong military, personal responsibility.
By the way, you can count on having a very lengthy recession now. Don't be looking for any economic rebound later next year.
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:46am |
re: #1687 6pat6
In much brighter news, my state retained ALL of its conservative members by wide margins, and elected conservatives in what were previously liberal-held State offices! Plus, we gained a majority of Conservatives in the State Senate for only the second time in State history!
I think we are gonna see the red states go even more conservative. Guess the South will have to rise up again!
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izbliss Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:47am |
The fun part of Hussein's presidency will be watching people who try to criticize him being called racists and excommunicated/jailed for hate crimes.
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Lightning_Man Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:49:47am |
Okay. Yesterday I told you guys that I wasn't going to hang with you because I had no hope for the outcome I wanted. I had desperately wanted to be wrong but I wasn't. So now, to try to make up for that, I will try to buck you up a little.
One of the critical things that allowed Obama to win is that he was a blank slate. That will now change. He will have a track record. And if he does what we fear, then two years from now he can have that used against him.
The compassionate, near-liberal-lookalike conservative / Republican is now dead, may it rest in peace. Real Republicans have a chance to re-emerge and do what needs to be done.
Sarah Palin has become a national figure and despite the media's many attempts to humiliate and reduce her, she is primed to make a strong run in 2012.
America doesn't have to go to Hell in a hand-basket, even if Obama and friends try to do what they want. They can be resisted and / or removed as long as we never give up.
Today is not a day for happiness. But it's only the end if we give up.
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PISSED Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:50:23am |
re: #1650 StudSupreme
Thank you for that... in all honesty.. you are right..
as Sarah Connor said at the end of Terminator One when the little kid said there is a storm coming.. she said "I know"...
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:51:15am |
re: #1688 Beach Lover
I just caught the end and didn't hear what happened. that's pretty amazing. wonder what the libs will think of that?
Went down in Florida as well. I don't think people care except when it is forcibly and obnoxiously fed to our children as part of a social agenda. I'm thinking of the story of the kindergarden teacher having her pupils sign gay "pledge" cards provided by the GLBT Alliance.
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3 wood Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:51:45am |
Wait until the college kids who helped vote this Marxist into office try to get a job when they graduate.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:52:07am |
re: #1668 taxfreekiller
How is that milk toast country club I'm just like a Democrat , "RINO" shit working for ya now.!
Keep it up, you will get the Senate for the Democrat too, also.
You had a lead two or three days with Sarah Palin, then you made her or she chose to do the "path to citizenship" bull shit speech, back to Obama the next day.
Where did the money go? Same , Same.Tails do not wag dogs.
?
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:52:21am |
Oh, were my Election Day predictions waaay friggin' off! My crystal ball that I was using - was made in China.
Used the wrong damn ball!
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:52:30am |
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NC State of Mind Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:52:41am |
re: #1690 MandyManners
Ya' know, I really don't give a shit about that. What matters is that this nation has elected a fucking COMMIE BASTARD as president.
And we (almost) all thought at least a slight majority of Americans were not absolute fucking idiots. We really believed we'd send this asshole packing. Shows we have fallen further than we thought and we have more work to do now than we ever dreamed we did.
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SteveC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:53:04am |
re: #1699 3 wood
Wait until the college kids who helped vote this Marxist into office try to get a job when they graduate.
Speaking truth to power...The TRUTH is, you kids ain't got no POWER.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:53:18am |
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jemima Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:53:26am |
I woke up with the horrible realization and the next thought was that I had to email my rabbi and ask him what I should do/think/be right now. I opened my email to find he beat me to it, sending this note to his circle of friends. I don't think he would mind me sharing it with you. (Not all Jews voted for Nobama, not all Jews are moonbats, not all Jews are self-hating.)
Well, what we understood would happen, and hoped would not, did.
It seems to me that the immediate insights are, and in no particular order –
1) To make it clear to Israel, that it will no longer be protected form its own folly by President Bush –so it better elect someone competent and strong
2) Secondly, the Republican Party must decide who it is and what it stands for.
3) Since ironically, many of the “Blue Dog” Democrats have been more faithful to Republican ideals than the Republicans –they need to be co-opted into the effort to hold the fort
4) The 2010 Congressional campaign begins now
5) We must have a clear strategy for getting the message out as to what the government will try to pull off in terms of economic destruction and erosion of personal liberties –since the MSM will not.
6) Everyone of us must say a chapter of Tehilim (psalms) daily for the health of our 5 justices on the Supreme Court
7) The party should have stood by President Bush and articulated why his actions were so necessary to deal with Islamic extremism
8) The swing is a shallow one based on genuine economic pain –if the Democrats overreach their hand it will be short one
9) Based on character and attitudes to life many states should have gone McCain that did not: ME, NH, VA, IA, NM. I think that we need to get people to understand that security and economic opportunity flow form good ideals –they are not separate things
10) Sarah Palin was given a bunch of Washington insiders to run her –a huge mistake. She needs to run for the next open Senate seat –or the House if necessary and find her own voice. If she can speak intelligently at the Capitol and it is seen on c-span this will be a huge step in the right direction
11) The under 30’s voted overwhelmingly for Obama. The right has conceded the campuses to the left and dismissed them as irrelevant. This was a huge mistake, as most kids go to college, most professors are very left wing and we see as the prophets tell us ‘the daughter rises up against her mother” etc. The Right has more children but if they can’t keep them, they are just feeding the Left. We need a lot more conservative intellectuals teaching on our campuses
Good night and I trust that Hashem, who has shed his blessing on this country for a long time, and has made it the best stop we have ever had in the Diaspora, will continue to do so
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shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:53:51am |
Invest in precious metals: lead, brass, blue steel.
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mahatma coat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:54:17am |
Winston Churchill - "You can always depend on America to do the right thing...after they've tried every thing else"
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:54:20am |
Well here we are in the new new.
Media lovefest starts... sky's are bluer, bums seem friendlier, blah, blah.
I never want to hear "America is racist" again.
Time to move on to the next election cycle, this time with real conservatives.
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DistantThunder Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:55:03am |
I want to pull my kids out of school starting today - I'm already homeschooling my 12 year old on an accelerated schedule - and he has Boy scouts and sports and church and lots of neighborhood kids for socialization.
Why should I continue to enrich the teacher union coffers?
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:55:04am |
The media this morning were orgasmic over this shit! Truly and utterly disgusting!
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:56:09am |
re: #1699 3 wood
Wait until the college kids who helped vote this Marxist into office try to get a job when they graduate.
I am in the process of reviewing applications for the holidays. I have mostly college graduates applying, and I am astounded by the level of ignorance. Our schools are in serious shape.
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Born Again Republican Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:56:14am |
re: #1702 jester6
Good advice. Have you read this:
[Link: drhelen.blogspot.com...]
should productive people cut back on what they need, make less money, and take it easy so that the government is starved for funds, or is there some other way of making a statement?
Problem with this idea is that Democrats are in power and they will just raise taxes.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:56:20am |
re: #1347 ploome hineni
so I hear McCain gave a great concession speech
/spit
I missed it all
McCain has proven himself a survivor
not a winner
agreed...his whole campaign was a disaster til the last two weeks...he should have taken the donks to task with regard to FM/FM...he could have attacked the media for their bias expressing a true 'maverick'...he could have clobbered OB in the debates with relentless body punches about BOs associates...he seemed to misjudge the lefts ambitious assault on all fronts and hunkered down in defense...he needed to fight dirty and he didnt...whatever...I give up...
very disappointing indeed
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Desert Dog Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:56:25am |
re: #1672 Fredlike
Prediction Barry's first day in office he will fire all the US attorneys, just like Clinton, need to stop any budding investigations of the corruption in the elections or Barry's past.
Look for a bloodbath and purging of epic proportions...Who's going to say "no" to President Obama? A sycophant press? An angry and vengeful Democrat controlled Congress? The 62,000,000 that voted for him?
We will have to "take our medicine" and start the long road back to recovery. The good part is, we are down so low now, the only way to go is up. (I hope). I think a combination of unhinged Democrats, poor policy on their part and world events that will test and reveal exactly what type of person President Obama will re-energize the right. All we need is a viable leader. We have the ideas, we are just short a standard bearer.
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SteveC Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:56:27am |
re: #1710 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Media lovefest starts... sky's are bluer, bums seem friendlier, blah, blah.
I was walking this morning near the highway when I was passed by a truck carrying turkeys to a slaughterhouse. You know what?
It still smelled like SHIT, same as always!
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:56:42am |
re: #1696 Lightning_Man
Bush had less of a record then any of the other major candidates in 2000. Obama, as you said, was a blank slate. I don't think Palin has a future because she is no longer a blank slate.
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nucular_option Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:56:58am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:57:03am |
I havn't a racist bone in my body!
But how in the hell did this happen?
When Americans wake up and see what they have done...
" I told you so" will be meaningless!
A man that couldn't get clearance for Nuke power plant,now will have the BUTTON!
Dinnerjacket and that puss faced Hugo will be visitors in
OUR HOUSE!
WTF?
[deleted],[deleted]
Watch and LEARN America!
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yochanan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:57:35am |
mr. biden was right about one thing we will be tested with in 6 months and sadly I think that place will be Israel AND I DON'T THINK HE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING I will keep my reaction to that very close to my vest as I don't expect political free speech to last all that long when mr. b.o. become fearless leader
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:57:57am |
re: #1679 seekeroftruth
Obama promised a lot of people a lot of things that he can not deliver. We are in for " interesting" times.
I thought about that,
He will have more liberal shit on his desk than a janitor could sweep up in a year.
Starting with overturning prop 8.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:58:23am |
re: #1703 NC State of Mind
And we (almost) all thought at least a slight majority of Americans were not absolute fucking idiots. We really believed we'd send this asshole packing. Shows we have fallen further than we thought and we have more work to do now than we ever dreamed we did.
I am surrounded by people who want to take my shit away from me because they are too fucking lazy to do what it takes to get their own shit. I am surrounded by people who want Israel to burn and to give a buncha' lazy, Muslim bastards the fruits of thousands of Jews' labors.
That pretty much sums up this election.
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:58:35am |
re: #1708 shiplord kirel
what's blue steel? Mr beach is in steel...does that count?
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:59:38am |
So, is everyone ready to hang the mandatory picture of BHO prominently in their homes, and bow thrice daily to the new Dear Leader? Welcome the new Socialist master with open arms and empty wallets.
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shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:00:34am |
re: #1725 Beach Lover
what's blue steel? Mr beach is in steel...does that count?
The stuff most guns are made from. They also come in stainless, chrome, nickel and even titanium, but blue is the most common.
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Lightning_Man Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:00:35am |
re: #1718 jester6
You don't have to be a blank slate to win. You do have to connect with people, which Palin does. Ronald Reagan was far from a blank slate. Don't count Sarah Palin out.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:01:18am |
re: #1704 SteveC
Speaking truth to power...The TRUTH is, you kids ain't got no POWER.
As devastated as I feel, it's remarkable, some of you guys have actually made me laugh.
I need it - thanks.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:01:22am |
re: #1676 6pat6
President Barack Hussein Obama
I'm sick. Absolutely sick. God help us.
I'm going to give him the same treatment they gave President Bush over the past eight years. I will simply call him "Zero" and nothing else as they called Pres. Bush, "Shrub".
Here's to Zero.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:01:32am |
re: #1708 shiplord kirel
Invest in precious metals: lead, brass, blue steel.
No shit there!
My " Safe Queens" just doubled in value!
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NC State of Mind Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:01:46am |
The proof is in the pudding:
I just heard from a friend that the small business he works for is closing. They had six employees. I don't know how closely this is connected to the election, but it sure was sudden.
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:02:15am |
Has Obama said anything about lessening our commitment to Europe's and Japan's defense or just Iraq's? Now that we have our own welfare state to pay for they will need to step up and defend themselves. With the cuts in the military he's proposed I don't see how we can continue to defend the world.
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stonewater Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:02:23am |
Despite taking a sleeping pill, I couldn't sleep last night. So I got up this morning and composed the attached e-mail to my Obama supporting friends. Please take the time to read it and let me know your thoughts. Any changes or suggestions before this goes out? Just want to be sure I'm thinking clearly.
(Sorry, about this being a link on my website. It was too long to post here.)
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:02:27am |
re: #1707 MandyManners
I am not ready to do a Patrick Swayze. At least not yet.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:02:29am |
re: #1725 Beach Lover
Firearms my dear, firearms!
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ziggyelman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:03:00am |
re: #1712 6pat6
The media this morning were orgasmic over this shit! Truly and utterly disgusting!
Don't watch anymore! seriously! Don't watch NBCCBSABCCNN, no matter what. They, as much as the hundreds of millions of dollars, and his very good speaking abilities, are why he's president. You wouldn't stay friends with a guy that stole from you, would you? Tell everyone that feels like you do about the election to stop watching them.
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:03:22am |
re: #1731 Honorary Yooper
Absolutely! Plus, we must have bumper stickers that say:
01.20.13
BHO is not MY President!
BHO - Elected by Morons
...and so forth.
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Roark Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:03:51am |
Charles,
Outstanding work as always. You are the man. I'll be hitting the tip jar in the next week to help cover the costs of this wonderful blog. I just have to fire up my paypal account again (been awhile).
Lizards,
I think last night was our non-violent bolshevik revolution. The right thing to do is to get behind this new president and support him against all foreign enemies, and I pray that he does not make enemies of certain classes of the domestic variety.
Cheers to Charles and the Lizards. I love this place.
Roark
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:04:01am |
It just blows my mind listening to the morning news. Something like 60% of Americans thought Sarah Palin wasn't ready for the job, but somehow Obama was. Everytime one of those talking heads leaves this world, I will make a journey just to piss on their grave. Although we'll never see it, I wonder how long it will take for the media to turn on the One when he fails to deliver the free goods.My fellow residents of the Peoples Republic of Mass also voted to continue the prison rape the state legislature inflicts by not repealing the income tax, decriminalized marijuana, banned dog racing and put thousands out of work, and reelected John Kerry and Barney Frank. Guess I need to go kick a baby or a puppy. ( Just kidding)
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:04:19am |
re: #1718 jester6
Bush had less of a record then any of the other major candidates in 2000. Obama, as you said, was a blank slate. I don't think Palin has a future because she is no longer a blank slate.
You've got to be kidding. She's the only one who spoke the truth. She has a record, and a good, clean one at that.
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reags Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:04:20am |
re: #1675 MandyManners
Never before in my life have I been ashamed of my fellow citizens.
I hate to say I agree, but I do. There have been few times when I have been sad for this great nation and this is one of them.
People say "it'll be like Carter and we survived that", but the world is a different place now then it was then, and there are many more resources available to those, both within and outside this country who would do us harm, and I feel our Prez-elect is complicit with the former and too weak/inexperience to deal with the latter.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:04:40am |
re: #1739 6pat6
Bumper stickers with ...Proud member of the NRA ...
Right next to it ...so you don't get shot at!
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:05:17am |
re: #1736 jester6
Are you gonna' wait until they take away your guns?
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:06:07am |
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:00am |
you know that Franken will ask for a recount...lost by 750 votes! What in the world is wrong with MN?!
follow that with Indiana (my home state many years ago) and NC (which has become invaded the last few years by liberals and youth from the northeast)
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:03am |
re: #1743 reags
I hate to say I agree, but I do. There have been few times when I have been sad for this great nation and this is one of them.
People say "it'll be like Carter and we survived that", but the world is a different place now then it was then, and there are many more resources available to those, both within and outside this country who would do us harm, and I feel our Prez-elect is complicit with the former and too weak/inexperience to deal with the latter.
Hell, he IS complicit. He's a COMMIE BASTARD.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:04am |
re: #1732 reloadingisnotahobby
Invest in precious metals: lead, brass, blue steel.
No shit there!
My " Safe Queens" just doubled in value!
Guns ammunition and Meals ready to eat. MREs
how many gold-lead-brass bars will you trade me for a granola bar.
it is gonna get bad,
within two years of bio fuels,
farmers wont know how to grow food.
hope you can eat stocks and bonds
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:12am |
Always remember this day, folks. This was the day when "Character does NOT matter!" came home to roost. How this great nation went, in just one generation, from the Reagan Revolution to the Obama Devolution, is simply amazing and sickening.
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:25am |
re: #1745 MandyManners
If they take mine, it will be quite warm by the time they get a hold of it.
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ziggyelman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:35am |
re: #1714 Born Again Republican
Problem with this idea is that Democrats are in power and they will just raise taxes.
But, "they" are going to spend like drunken sailors on viagra the next few years. Go ahead, get on the dole where you can...if you have a lot of money in the bank, coast... by the time hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent on every pet project of the UN, green initiatives, free healthcare, etc, etc, etc, the budget will be the biggest thing anyone has ever seen. Of course, every year this happens...it's just going to happen faster now.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:37am |
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angrywhitedad Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:08:06am |
The New Conservative movement starts TODAY!
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Lightning_Man Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:08:22am |
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:08:35am |
re: #1714 Born Again Republican
Although the tax system has been a big redistribution scheme for many years, the vast majority of people did not realize it. Obama openly talked about spreading the wealth. Many American's realizing, for the first time, that 40% of the population does not pay taxes but many of them get EITC payments. This is an unintended consequence of the campaign.
If you are not straight W2 and have control of how you take your income there is a great deal you can do. Income taxes are done on honor system. There is no honor among thieves. Many of the moral filters that have kept people honest when paying their taxes have been removed.
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esch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:08:39am |
re: #1722 yochanan
mr. biden was right about one thing we will be tested with in 6 months and sadly I think that place will be Israel AND I DON'T THINK HE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING I will keep my reaction to that very close to my vest as I don't expect political free speech to last all that long when mr. b.o. become fearless leader
We have to stand strong. That means testing the waters, speaking 'truth to power' (HAHAHAHAHAH!), and yes, some people going to jail to show the public what they've bought.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:08:40am |
re: #1744 reloadingisnotahobby
Bumper stickers with ...Proud member of the NRA ...
Right next to it ...so you don't get shot at!
NRA on one side and Little Feat on the other says all I want anybody to know about me...
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:09:06am |
re: #1737 reloadingisnotahobby
oh..he's in stainless :-(
but he was depressed anyway...says we're in for some bad times.
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capitalist piglet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:09:13am |
re: #1706 jemima
11) The under 30’s voted overwhelmingly for Obama. The right has conceded the campuses to the left and dismissed them as irrelevant. This was a huge mistake, as most kids go to college, most professors are very left wing and we see as the prophets tell us ‘the daughter rises up against her mother” etc. The Right has more children but if they can’t keep them, they are just feeding the Left. We need a lot more conservative intellectuals teaching on our campuses
This is key, I think. We're losing here, and in the media. We need some strategies for how to deal with these things.
My best friend is quite conservative, but his daughter comes home from high school with obvious leftist influences in her thinking - nevermind college. We need more conservatives at every level of education.
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:09:14am |
The GOP can take one of two paths. Go further left to try and get those damned elusive independent voters or go back to our conservative principles. Sarah and Jindal need our support.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:10:15am |
re: #1751 christheprofessor
Well, we're fucked.
At least we will get some whore checks.
morning chris!
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Big Steve Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:10:26am |
Wow...some of these comments are very bitter and borderline ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome). I for one voted for Mac and would have preferred him to win. I have a sister who is a hard blue collar democrate and for 8 years has been saying that Bush "is not MY president." I have decided not to be that way. Obama will be MY president and that is that. I wish him well. I thought his concession speach, invoking the founding fathers was a nice touch. We have found time and time again that when one is president and getting the real true info in the daily briefings, how the end up reacting is only a matter small degrees different from how others might react.
So I say give Obama a chance and lets offer up our respect for the office. And when (and note I say when and not if) he screws up, we can give him the Bush Bitch Slaps that the left has been been refining for years.
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obageegee Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:10:51am |
I was watching Michelle Malkin on Fox last night and they had a little clip from a woman in Florida. She was ranting "I don't have to worry about paying my mortgage, my car loan the groceries, etc etc". Michelle briefly brough up Joe the Plumber, Michell called this woman "Joanne the moocher". I wonder when these people are going to wake up and realize the didn't elect Santa Clause!
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arizona9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:11:20am |
re: #1678 6pat6
Why did Palin and McCain feel the need to seek approval by appearing on SNL? Can't figure that one out...
Better question..why did they feel the need to go on the effing View? Huge mistake.
Oh, I had avoided MSNBC like the plague that it is until this morning and the ol' media generated theme is that America voted against the politics of fear and for the politics of hope. Excuse me? Obama's entire campaign was fear based. Fear of Bush. Fear that McCain would drive the economy further into the ground(despite the pesky fact that Dems did the real driving), fear of the world not liking us(oh, heavens no!) and on and on and on. God I hate the press. Obama won for two reasons and not because he ran such a brilliant campain(if I hear that one more time I'll scream)-the economy collapsed and the press which buried anything bad about Obama or stood in as surrogates to defend or deflect anything bad like the pesky fact that the aforementioned economy collapse was largely the doing of the Democratic party. SNL was the only media outlet to really set the record straight. Sad. Pathetic. Pathtic and sad.
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:11:37am |
re: #1742 tappin52
I like Palin and hope I am wrong. But I don't think she has much of a leg up in 2012. Half of the country thinks she is a step up from Quayle.
It's not fair. But life - and certainly not politics - is not fair.
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spidly Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:11:37am |
recount for coleman and franken. coleman by 800 votes.
at least GOP retain 44 seats minimum
prop 8 passed.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:11:46am |
Buncha' fucking lazy bastards in big cities did this. I hope they all rot in the self-imposed hell they've chosen.
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angrywhitedad Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:12:29am |
Just might fly the flag at half staff at work today. If anyone says anything I'll just tell them it's because of the death of capitalism.
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Desert Dog Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:12:49am |
re: #1679 seekeroftruth
Obama promised a lot of people a lot of things that he can not deliver. We are in for " interesting" times.
Are you suggesting that he cannot deliver the moon and stars and all that is wonderful to everyone? No way! I am waiting for my free gas and paid mortgage, where do I sign up?
Part of the fun over the next few years will be watching the realization from the looney left, black America and the press that President Obama is only a mere mortal. Of course he over-promised, and I am guessing he will under-deliver.
They will savor this victory, and rightfully so, they kicked our ass (bad). But, the election is only the beginning. Let's see what President Obama is made of now. Maybe he will surprise us all and govern wisely. We can always hope for that. But, the cynic in me thinks he will be facing challenges at every turn and will have a hard time keeping the adoring masses enthralled when his policies backfire, alienate, fail and do not bring forth the rainbows and unicorns as promised.
His own Democrat Congress will give him crap...they will not bend to his will as easy as he thinks. They will try and push this country so far to the left we will fall off the cliff. Our enemies all have big smiles on their faces this morning. Radical Islam is pleased, the motley assortment of Dictators around the world are pleased, people that hate our guts are very happy. So, let's hope President Obama is not the Great and Powerful OZ.
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6pat6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:13:23am |
My staunchly Democrat sister called my around ten last night and she says: "Oh, my God, we are so fucked! What are we gonna do?" (she voted McCain). She is quite successful and is absolutely convinced she is going to lose what she has worked her ass off for. I told her "Did this convince you to become a Conservative finally?"
She said "YES!" I told her that she needs to learn to shoot, and to provide appropriately to that task. She agreed wholeheartedly. I also told her that some Conservatives are former Liberals that got whacked on the head by reality...she agreed there, too.
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:13:44am |
re: #1763 rancher
Haven't they gone too far left already? Last night was the spanking they needed, now they need to get back to their less government spending ideas. If they move more left, Karl Marx might be considered a Republican.
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Jeff S. Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:13:56am |
So what happens if terrorists strike on our soil again, and O says something to the effect of, "We will not retaliate, or respond to this with forceful action anywhere. Rather, we will listen to and seek to accomodate their grievances."
Could we then see a military takeover of our civilian government?
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spidly Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:13:59am |
re: #1771 MandyManners
Buncha' fucking lazy bastards in big cities did this. I hope they all rot in the self-imposed hell they've chosen.
well. you have to wonder about the ol' "taxation without representation" when you are up against the 40% who don't pay taxes.
I don't feel represented
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kcladderman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:14:42am |
I rolled around all night not really sleeping. I did drift off to sleep a few times even had a couple of McCain miraculous comeback dreams. It is hard to describe the what I feel this morning. Its not really anger or fear of what might be ahead but more of an empty feeling.
We all knew we had an uphill battle, true or not the republicans were blamed for every thing that was going wrong in this country. It was pounded into the masses heads everyday by the media. So given the chance the uninformed masses picked a new direction for our country. All we can do now is accept the fact he is our President, thank God we didn't loose more in Congress.
Soon the people will rediscover what they have seem to have forgotten about the Democrats and the tide will shift our way once more.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:14:50am |
re: #1773 angrywhitedad
Just might fly the flag at half staff at work today. If anyone says anything I'll just tell them it's because of the death of capitalism.
Mine is flyin upside-down.
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Desert Dog Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:15:21am |
re: #1747 Beach Lover
you know that Franken will ask for a recount...lost by 750 votes! What in the world is wrong with MN?!
follow that with Indiana (my home state many years ago) and NC (which has become invaded the last few years by liberals and youth from the northeast)
They had that asshole Barkley as a third party candidate. He siphoned off almost 500,000 votes. I think if he was not in the race, Coleman would have easily beat Frankenstein.
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FrogMarch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:15:23am |
I don't get it.
The nation says it doesn't like the spending under Bush. So we elect someone who is going to out-spend Bush.
People don't like high taxes - so we elect someone who is going to raise them. Substantially.
Obama says 95% of us won't get a tax increase - when the opposite is true. 95% of us WILL get a tax increase. Not only after the current tax code expires in 2010, and all tax brackets go up - but when the democrats layer on top a doubling of the our capital gains taxes. You know - the tax people pay when they sell property. (from about 20 to 40%.) Obama wants this out of fairness even if it doesn't bring revenue into the treasury.
The republicans did a piss poor job explaining this. The media gave the democrats every opportunity to lie.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:15:24am |
re: #1770 spidly
recount for coleman and franken. coleman by 800 votes.
at least GOP retain 44 seats minimum
prop 8 passed.
How long before the 9th dist. Ca. Communists supreme courts overturn this decision?
5...4...3...2...
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ziggyelman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:16:14am |
re: #1735 stonewater
Despite taking a sleeping pill, I couldn't sleep last night. So I got up this morning and composed the attached e-mail to my Obama supporting friends. Please take the time to read it and let me know your thoughts. Any changes or suggestions before this goes out? Just want to be sure I'm thinking clearly.
(Sorry, about this being a link on my website. It was too long to post here.)
Excellent! I'm going to say this a lot over the coming months...think you are smarter than Joe Biden, or Nancy Pelosi? Then consider running for office!
I really liked the first part...as much as I bitch about how he got in, he will still be my president...
To my Obama friends,
First congratulations. Your guy won. For the next 4 years, I will respect him as President of my country. I will not mirror much of the hatred and disrespect that I saw from some of my friends and acquaintances towards President Bush. The office and the person who hold the office deserve the office deserve respect
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:16:28am |
re: #1745 MandyManners
They won't take away my guns. I have said this before -
- Half of the households in the country own guns
- The average household owns 4 guns
- More people own guns then go to weekly religious services
- Gun owners are stronger one-issue-voters than even pro-life or pro-choice voters
I like to sum it up by saying "Guns are bigger than God in this country"
Taking guns would start a low intensity civil war in this country. It cannot be done. They won't do it. And if they try they still won't take my guns.
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christheprofessor Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:16:29am |
#1757 Lightning
Oh, I won't, believe me. I intend to fuck back every chance I get...
#1764 IBM
Good morning. Whore checks? The only checks anybody we'll see are those we write to the government and those the government doles out to the asshats that Obama will be paying for voting for him...
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:16:45am |
re: #1778 spidly
well. you have to wonder about the ol' "taxation without representation" when you are up against the 40% who don't pay taxes.
I don't feel represented
William Graham Sumner pretty much sums it up for me.
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Lightning_Man Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:17:24am |
re: #1769 jester6
She was the target of a tremendous smear campaign compounded by mishandling early. What polling says people think of her now isn't important. It's what polling says about three years hence.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:17:39am |
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eon Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:18:20am |
re: #1682 shiplord kirel
"Tyranny is forced upon some, while others bring it upon themselves."
Morning, Lizards.
Having woken up this morning in a Brave New World, I've been starting the day by parsing a couple of The Anointed And Ascended One's statements last night.
1. His "plea for unity" was, I suspect, mainly aimed at his own (fractious) coalition on the left. With control of both houses of Congress and the Executive Branch, he can ram through almost anything he wants in the short term. However, if his squabbling factional supporters (the deep-ecos, the gun-haters, the Dump Israelers, etc.) "get greedy" and demand the enaction of their entire agendas ASAP, he could lose control of Congress in 2010, just as Clinton did in 1994. And unlike Bill, he would be unlikely to be able to pull off a 1996-style personal "save" in 2012.
2. His statement of "I will listen to you even when I disagree with you" makes perfect sense, as follows;
I will listen to you even when I disagree with you- And then I will do exactly what I intended to do in the first place, because I'm always right and you're only right when you agree with me.
With narcissistic egotists, the unspoken context must always be considered when attempting to discern the actual meaning of any statement.
Considering that early in the campaign, The Exalted One gave an interview in which he stated that he expected to be corrupted by power but believed he could still "do good" while being so corrupted, the deciding factor will always be how he defines the "good".
I've been reading 1634; The Baltic War by Eric Flint and David Weber. In it, they point out that
And it was just a fact, attested to by all of history, that charismatic revolutionary leaders often wound up becoming tyrants. "Tyrants", in the literal and original Greek meaning of the term, which was not a sloppy synonym for dictators but a reference to men who led the lower classes in revolt and whose determination to champion their interests often led them to crush ruthlessly everything that stood in the way. You did not have to impute wicked motives to such men to understand that, carried too far, their virtues could become vices. In fact, those very virtues- real ones, undoubted one- could make them ten times more dangerous than men whose motives were simply personal ambition.
The Ascended One's ambition is to Change The World. That trumps any "personal" ambition any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
Myself, I believe he will succeed, at least in part. Which is why I am accumulating and closely studying books on "living off the grid". Not because I intend to retreat to a cabin in the mountains and live like James Capen "Grizzly" Adams, but because after seeing what "Grayout" Davis did to California with policies remarkably like those advocated by The Perfect One, I strongly suspect that "the grid" may not be working too much longer. And unlike California, the United States as a whole does not have a larger polity/resource/power grid base next door to bail it out.
As for the larger political picture, I'll be watching. With, as the old Toureg proverb goes, one foot in the stirrup.
cheers
eon
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:18:39am |
re: #1780 MandyManners
Mine is flyin upside-down.
Mine seems to be losing the red bars and blue field. Looking awfully white.
Like the surrender flag.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:19:29am |
re: #1785 jester6
They won't take away my guns. I have said this before -
- Half of the households in the country own guns
- The average household owns 4 guns
- More people own guns then go to weekly religious services
- Gun owners are stronger one-issue-voters than even pro-life or pro-choice votersI like to sum it up by saying "Guns are bigger than God in this country"
Taking guns would start a low intensity civil war in this country. It cannot be done. They won't do it. And if they try they still won't take my guns.
Hell, they elected a COMMIE BASTARD. They'll do whatever it takes to reassure themselves that they did the right thing. The lazy bastards who elected that COMMIE BASTARD don't have guns except for the ones that their cousins used to rob the corner liquor store or the crack house three blocks over.
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littleoldlady Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:19:46am |
re: #1735 stonewater
It's a good letter, but I would advise you to ask Charles or one of the monitors to delete that post, ASAP.
/TMI!
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FrogMarch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:20:02am |
Hi all.
While Obama may have won Ohio and PA anyway, I think massive voter fraud occurred.
People are voting multiple times ID laws very from state to state. Shouldn't showing a photo ID be a national law? I'm a state to state Jeffersonian Federalist at heart - but voting is a national activity and it's something we all do on the same day. Shouldn't the laws around voting be applicable to everyone in all states? Just a start to sure up an eroding system.
The democrats could be in power for decades based solely on voter fraud.
Something to ponder.
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:20:10am |
re: #1776 soxfan4life
Haven't they gone too far left already? Last night was the spanking they needed, now they need to get back to their less government spending ideas. If they move more left, Karl Marx might be considered a Republican.
Absolutely. McCain should be the wake-up call we needed but I can already hear the Rockefeller Republicans like Powell say how far right we have become and that we need to move more toward the "center". I tried to tell folks when I was making phone calls for Thompson that libs won't vote for "lib light" when they can have the real thing. "But McCain is the only one who can win!" they would say. They were wrong.
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MandyManners Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:20:15am |
Gotta' go. Have as nice a day as you can, Lizards.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:20:42am |
re: #1778 spidly
well. you have to wonder about the ol' "taxation without representation" when you are up against the 40% who don't pay taxes.
I don't feel represented
Our ancestors would have hung several congressmen and others from the nearest lamp post.
/but we are a kind and gentle Euro feel good nation.
when do we put Barrys picture on the Euro?
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spidly Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:21:56am |
re: #1783 ibmkeyboard
How long before the 9th dist. Ca. Communists supreme courts overturn this decision?
5...4...3...2...
it is a california constitutional amendment so they shouldnt bea able to... but then they have thrown out amendments in OR two or three times to no avail. they always get re-tailored, re-passed by even wider margins, and instituted
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:22:16am |
I think that I will list al of my excess possessions on e-bay. I'm going to have to clean out my attic, basement and extrs rooms to make space for all of my kids who will have to move back in with me.
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beblebrox Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:22:44am |
well, what a wonderful fucking morning.
let's see. so far this year I have lost:
1: My wife
2: My health (diabetes)
3: 3/4 of my household income
and now
4: My country
I'd ask what next, but I'm terrified of what the answer may be.
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:23:40am |
re: #1796 FrogMarch
Hi all.
While Obama may have won Ohio and PA anyway, I think massive voter fraud occurred.
People are voting multiple times ID laws very from state to state. Shouldn't showing a photo ID be a national law? I'm a state to state Jeffersonian Federalist at heart - but voting is a national activity and it's something we all do on the same day. Shouldn't the laws around voting be applicable to everyone in all states? Just a start to sure up an eroding system.
The democrats could be in power for decades based solely on voter fraud.
Something to ponder.
Just when I thought I couldn't feel any lower. Thanks alot. That being said I am praying for my brothers and sisters in the armed forces this morning. To quote Jack Nicholson from A Few Good Men, what you did today weakened a nation.And probably cost lives.
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eon Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:24:20am |
re: #1727 shiplord kirel
The stuff most guns are made from. They also come in stainless, chrome, nickel and even titanium, but blue is the most common.
"Blue Steel" is also the name Ben Stiller used for his glaring eyes/compressed cheeks expression in the movie Zoolander. (My candidate for one of the worst movies ever made.) Said expression looking distinctly like that which is plastered on The Exalted One's face when he raises his hand in benediction.
His other characteristic expression, the schoolyard-bully "F**k You" grin, I suspect he copied from The Doofus.
cheers
eon
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westbankmama Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:24:25am |
How is everyone doing this morning? I must say I was very disappointed. I wonder if the MSM will give Obama a free pass throughout the next four years.
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spidly Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:24:37am |
gotta work
glad I did not watch and took in half of season 3 of the unit.
get liquid get defensive. figure out what you have to do to pay no taxes. further bankrupting the system will change it faster than anything. they'll come after the non-paying 40% in short order.
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Big Steve Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:25:35am |
re: #1802 beblebrox
well, what a wonderful fucking morning.
let's see. so far this year I have lost:
1: My wife
2: My health (diabetes)
3: 3/4 of my household income
and now
4: My countryI'd ask what next, but I'm terrified of what the answer may be.
Keep the blood sugar under 120, go to the gym, get fit, get a new woman, money...well do the best you can, the country will survive...and keep in mind, the last time the Democrats has the house, senate, and presidency, the f'd it up in under 2 years and the congress violently swung back.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:25:59am |
re: #1805 westbankmama
I wonder if the MSM will give Obama a free pass throughout the next four years.
That was a rhetorical question, right?
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ziggyelman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:26:04am |
re: #1802 beblebrox
well, what a wonderful fucking morning.
let's see. so far this year I have lost:
1: My wife
2: My health (diabetes)
3: 3/4 of my household income
and now
4: My countryI'd ask what next, but I'm terrified of what the answer may be.
I am truly sorry beblebrox! 2 and 4 can be recovered in time though, with some work. (I'm a diabetic myself, cruel disease)
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esch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:27:15am |
re: #1805 westbankmama
How is everyone doing this morning? I must say I was very disappointed. I wonder if the MSM will give Obama a free pass throughout the next four years.
Light-headed from lack of sleep, Darvocet, and Coffee. Should be an interesting day.
Not a chance they'll maintain the silence on zer0. They need blood for their grist-mills. The Dems hold everything now, and the Right won't be able to supply enough scandal. Give it time.
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yochanan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:27:20am |
we in chicagostan have 10.25% sales tax AMERICA ENJOY WHAT YOU WILL BE GETTING and the gov'ment DON'T USE NO K.Y. EITHER
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:28:00am |
re: #1805 westbankmama
How is everyone doing this morning? I must say I was very disappointed. I wonder if the MSM will give Obama a free pass throughout the next four years.
you can count on it. I still think it was the main reason he won.
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:28:04am |
Holy crap, am listening to O'Reilly on Fox news this AM. Hard to hear what he's saying with his lips glued to Obama's ass.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:29:02am |
re: #1786 christheprofessor
Oh, I won't, believe me. I intend to fuck back every chance I get...
#1764 IBM
Good morning. Whore checks? The only checks anybody we'll see are those we write to the government and those the government doles out to the asshats that Obama will be paying for voting for him...
About 40 million of we Baby boomers need to jump on early SS retirement.
Just that alone would sink Barrys ass into so much red he would be impeached because of inability to deliver his voter checks.
/getting a job a Burger king and living on Barrys hand outs.
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Diamond Bullet Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:29:08am |
I can't believe America elected a socialist President. A President who wants to punish people who make the most of their opportunities and work hard, educate themselves, and excel at their professions. A President who apparently plans to enforce his designs through a Civilian "Defense" Force that would make Beria beam with pride. A President with no track record who may well make Carter look like Patton when it comes to defending America's interests abroad (if he even realizes we have any). Even if we get this joker out of office in four years he'll have had plenty of time to set up numerous Clinton-esque time bombs through nannystating and foreign policy mayhem that'll take decades to unravel and continue to blow up on future Presidents just like Clinton shafted Bush with 9/11. My wife is a first generation immigrant, and for the first time in our lives we're talking about whether her OLD COUNTRY will have more opportunities and freedoms than America now. The look on her face when Obama slammed the door shut on the future she has struggled for without rest or complaint is something I hope I never see again in any human being. This weekend we are driving to western Virginia to buy a gun. We are both graduate school educated formerly registered Democrats (now 9/11 Republicans) and have never owned a gun in our lives. While we supported the 2nd Amendment, we never personally believed it necessary to own one because we don't hunt, and we thought America was a country ruled by rational laws and just courts. That will no longer be the case under an Obama administration comprised of marxists and looters. Messiah: if you thought you saw people clinging bitterly to guns and religion before, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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beblebrox Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:29:47am |
re: #1809 ziggyelman
I am truly sorry beblebrox! 2 and 4 can be recovered in time though, with some work. (I'm a diabetic myself, cruel disease)
yeah who'd a thunk it? Who in the hell gets diagnosed Type 1 diabetes at 40 years old, 5'10" 170 pounds?
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rancher Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:29:47am |
People vote their wallets. The sub-prime crises was the nail in the coffin but there was allot of other bad economic decisions made by Bush and the GOP. It lost us Congress and now the Presidency. Obama however will fare far worse unless he conservatives up, at least fiscally, like Clinton. He won't. In two years Congress should be up for grabs if we follow in Newt's footsteps. In four years we can elect a another Republican. But if we don't elect a conservative, and we haven't since Reagan, then the cycle will begin again.
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eon Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:30:14am |
re: #1794 MandyManners
Hell, they elected a COMMIE BASTARD. They'll do whatever it takes to reassure themselves that they did the right thing. The lazy bastards who elected that COMMIE BASTARD don't have guns except for the ones that their cousins used to rob the corner liquor store or the crack house three blocks over.
My best bud, the E-5, predicts that the order to turn in all civilian firearms will come down sometime in the first two years, the Constitution and Heller be damned. Followed by a National Firearms Owner Identification Card, even for people who no longer own guns, but did in the past.
Because if you ever (legally) owned a gun, you are by definition a Dangerous Individual and Must Be Watched.
Criminals are of course exempted under the Fifth Amendment prohibition against self-incrimination.
/besides, The Supreme One will need their votes again in 2012
cheers
eon
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christheprofessor Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:30:19am |
#1765 Big Steve
Give him a chance? To do what? Screw us even more?
I have no desire to give the Chicago thug who made illegal campaign contributions and voter fraud an integral part of his campaign strategy "a chance" to put into place the policies he wants that we know will wreck this nation. He perpetrate a huge crime -- the ends justify the means to the left.
And I certainly owe the thug no respect.
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doriangrey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:30:32am |
With in minutes of hearing Barak Obama was elected President of the United States Russia threatens the United States... Look's like Biden was right... Looks like it's going to get really ugly really soon...
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NC State of Mind Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:30:35am |
To all you Bible reading Lizards: My friend said I'm not one bit worried God is in control, he allowed him to be elected. I said, No, we elected him. The Hebrew's bitched and moaned and wanted a king, God gave them one and let what would happen happen (exile, torment, destruction, and shame.)
A sad state of affairs indeed.
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MarkX Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:30:36am |
Good morning, Lizards!
GOD SAVE AMERICA.
(because Obama can't)
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FrogMarch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:31:00am |
re: #1803 soxfan4life
Just when I thought I couldn't feel any lower. Thanks alot. That being said I am praying for my brothers and sisters in the armed forces this morning. To quote Jack Nicholson from A Few Good Men, what you did today weakened a nation.And probably cost lives.
Sorry.
Reality bites. Like I said, Obama may have won anyway. He had an amazing ground game. But after Acorn and this election, is anyone feeling confident that our system is clean? I'm not.
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JustAGal Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:31:01am |
re: #1812 Beach Lover
you can count on it. I still think it was the main reason he won.
MSM carried him on their shoulders all the way across the goal line. Millions of citizens happily drank the kool-aid and felt relieved they had done their part to assuage their guilt.
Now is the time to get back to true conservatism and stop acting like we want to be buddy buddy with every Dem.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:31:11am |
Everyone, go read Michelle Malkin's pep talk. It didn't make me any less angry about last night, but at least I'm not completely hopeless anymore.
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rightside Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:32:04am |
One thing for sure, whomever the next Republican president is, HAD BETTER FIRE EVERY SINGLE F*CKING PERSON FROM ANY PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS!
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MarkX Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:32:06am |
re: #1802 beblebrox
Hang in there, bro.
We're here.. there are still a lot of good folk left.
(but just in case, buy more ammo)
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scottishbuzzsaw Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:32:14am |
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CIA Reject Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:32:18am |
Good Morning everybody.
Not much sleep last night- I'm afraid insomnia will be a staple for the next year or so since my job is now in jeopardy.
Can't have half the country on welfare and still pay for the military/intelligence operation we're operating at the present moment now can we?
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Spiritualized Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:32:23am |
re: #1796 FrogMarch
People are voting multiple times ID laws very from state to state. Shouldn't showing a photo ID be a national law?
Yes it should.
In 2012 though you'll probably be able to vote online using a Hotmail address (or a Facebook account), 16yr olds will be added to the electorate, and there'll be voting booths in prison.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:32:55am |
Also, keep this phrase in your heads today: 2010 midterm elections.
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ziggyelman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:33:04am |
re: #1813 soxfan4life
Holy crap, am listening to O'Reilly on Fox news this AM. Hard to hear what he's saying with his lips glued to Obama's ass.
O'Reilly can make some really good points sometimes, and other times it seems like he has shit for brains. Debbie Schlussel said on her blog he ain't a conservative...
Hannity gets on my nerves because he always overpowers everyone else on his TV show(Like him better on radio for some reason-no liberals on I guess!)
It will almost be funny to see how he will react today. Almost...
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esch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:33:12am |
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Pete-billy Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:33:30am |
Good morning everyone,
im feeling like the most of you, but now we have a hard task. I read all Articles from National review and at my opinion it's really very very hard to win any election with the mainstream media playing against.
I believe Charles he will help us with new ideas and suggestions because we need always a hope and Charles im sure he can find a way to give us a hope and one vision for the future.
Charles and the Pajamas media guys they can help us a lot.
Good day all !
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legalpad Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:35:09am |
Once more into the breech, dear friends! - It's great to see all your beautiful minds! I prefer the company of even the most depressed among you to the "media". My TV will only be used for movies, and that only with hollywoods who weren't so obnoxious in their comments.
You have some great ideas up here already. Jan - that's a good article. Hope you don't mind if I saved a copy.
Mr. Obama going to need a lot more time to really change the country than he actually has. We'll take some hits, but we'll make it, and be better than ever.
We need to adjust our infrastructure - our media, our schools. It has always been my opinion that some of our concerns could be best achieved through persuasion, not politics. It's a beginning.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:35:24am |
re: #1822 NC State of Mind
To all you Bible reading Lizards: My friend said I'm not one bit worried God is in control, he allowed him to be elected. I said, No, we elected him. The Hebrew's bitched and moaned and wanted a king, God gave them one and let what would happen happen (exile, torment, destruction, and shame.)
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Is that the same God that allowed the Jews to be marched into death camps during WW2?
/somehow I don't find that comforting.
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Texas Heathen Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:35:40am |
Well I see in addition to the other wonderful news of last nite that Murtha got himself re-elected. * shakes head slowly *
How someone can insult his own constituency and still get re-elected is just beyond me.
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beblebrox Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:35:44am |
re: #1828 MarkX
Hang in there, bro.
We're here.. there are still a lot of good folk left.
(but just in case, buy more ammo)
yeah, stopping on the way home to buy a boatload of 7.62x39 while I still can. I really need to look into a Winchester 1897 or some other sort of riot gun for when they come for my weapons.
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Beach Lover Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:35:49am |
Agree with many above. Anyone planning to run for office in the near future has to see that after "the one" has a chance to really screw things up and national security comes back to the forefront (you know it will), better scream conservative. Show what this country is made of, now that the others got their american idol...thier interest will fade.
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Irish Rose Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:36:32am |
I have so much that I'd like to say this morning... but everyone around me is telling me that I have to take the high road and wish our new President well, so I guess I'll just have to welcome my new overlords and STFU.
Any entries for the "most appalling leftist victory statement" and "most arrogant liberal comment ever!" categories? I saw some real doozies over at Kos last night.
/coffee, now
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MarkX Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:36:33am |
re: #1822 NC State of Mind
To all you Bible reading Lizards: My friend said I'm not one bit worried God is in control, he allowed him to be elected. I said, No, we elected him. The Hebrew's bitched and moaned and wanted a king, God gave them one and let what would happen happen (exile, torment, destruction, and shame.)
A sad state of affairs indeed.
I do read the Bible.
God gave man a free will. God also allows man to reap the consequences of his choices. I ‘m worried about those consequences.
Pray hard.
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ziggyelman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:37:21am |
re: #1817 beblebrox
yeah who'd a thunk it? Who in the hell gets diagnosed Type 1 diabetes at 40 years old, 5'10" 170 pounds?
Did it happen after your wife died? Stress can really screw up a body. My Mom died a slow painful death in 2005, and on top of putting on 30 pounds afterwards, I went from LOW blood sugar to diabetes in 2 years...at the age of 39.
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doriangrey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:37:43am |
re: #1829 scottishbuzzsaw
Good morning, Dorian...coffee?
Please, and a health shot of Johnny Walker if you please... Oh well at least Prop's 8 and 11 passed in California. No gay marriages and we will redistrict California to reclaim it from the democrats...
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arethusa Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:38:23am |
Scariest sentence in this morning's Star-Tribune: "If elected, Franken would be the first professional comedian in the Senate."
Eeeek. Living in MN means that the unpleasantness of Election Night continues into the next day as they do a recount.
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Big Steve Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:39:02am |
re: #1817 beblebrox
yeah who'd a thunk it? Who in the hell gets diagnosed Type 1 diabetes at 40 years old, 5'10" 170 pounds?
Type 1 at that age is unusual. Have you had cortizone injections in the last year or two. There are cases of people who were borderline Type 1 but had no symptoms were cortizone or other steroids have triggered it.
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VioletTiger Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:39:10am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Russia playing with missles. Didn't take long.
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westbankmama Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:39:40am |
re: 1838 Murtha got reelected? What do they put in the water in Pennsylvania?
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doriangrey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:39:40am |
re: #1837 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Is that the same God that allowed the Jews to be marched into death camps during WW2?
/somehow I don't find that comforting.
God never promised that bad things wouldn't happen to good people, or the Jews, he did promise to save a remnant of the Jews and in fact he did.
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Irish Rose Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:40:08am |
re: #1826 Fat Jolly Penguin
Everyone, go read Michelle Malkin's pep talk. It didn't make me any less angry about last night, but at least I'm not completely hopeless anymore.
No thanks.
Michelle is off my reading list.
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MarkX Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:40:22am |
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jester6 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:40:30am |
re: #1794 MandyManners
Hell, they elected a COMMIE BASTARD. They'll do whatever it takes to reassure themselves that they did the right thing. The lazy bastards who elected that COMMIE BASTARD don't have guns except for the ones that their cousins used to rob the corner liquor store or the crack house three blocks over.
First off, if the government cannot disarm urban thugs who don't even know how to hold a pistol - let alone hit anything with it at more than 5 feet away - they will not be able to disarm the folks in the red counties who know how to use a rifle.
They will probably ban "AWs" again. They will probably ban high cap magazines. And I expect them to ban 50 cal rifles like they did the USAS-12 (by declaring it a destructive device in an administrative law procedure).
During the ban that just expired there was really never a problem getting high cap mags for rifles and old pistols. And a whole new generation of 10 round high quality semi-automatics which can fit in your back pocket was born.
Also, there are many more AR15s in circulation than in 1993. And after 5 years of war there are many more young men and women who are very familiar with using them. So much so that it is not uncommon to see an AR15 in a hunting party today.
Like I said in my earlier post - trying to take guns would spark a low intensity civil war. It would make anyone in a uniform in the red counties a target for someone with a rifle.
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beblebrox Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:40:43am |
re: #1843 ziggyelman
Did it happen after your wife died? Stress can really screw up a body. My Mom died a slow painful death in 2005, and on top of putting on 30 pounds afterwards, I went from LOW blood sugar to diabetes in 2 years...at the age of 39.
well she didn't die, just got herself pregnant by and moved in with my "best friend", but essentially yes; it hit me hard 2 weeks ago, 6 months after she moved out. Though the doctors tell me they suspect I have had it to one degree or another for several years. So now i have to shoot up like a heroin junkie 4 times a day.
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ziggyelman Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:41:25am |
re: #1841 Irish Rose
I have so much that I'd like to say this morning... but everyone around me is telling me that I have to take the high road and wish our new President well, so I guess I'll just have to welcome my new overlords and STFU.
Any entries for the "most appalling leftist victory statement" and "most arrogant liberal comment ever!" categories? I saw some real doozies over at Kos last night.
/coffee, now
Damn, why the hell go to Kos? I don't read them, I also don't put salt in wounds, put cigarette butts out in my hand, etc, etc...
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Desert Dog Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:41:43am |
re: #1840 Beach Lover
Agree with many above. Anyone planning to run for office in the near future has to see that after "the one" has a chance to really screw things up and national security comes back to the forefront (you know it will), better scream conservative. Show what this country is made of, now that the others got their american idol...thier interest will fade.
He showed he was brilliant as a campaigner. Let's see how he does "for real" now. My guess is that he will get his base mad at him because he does not want to go that far left and I also predict he will make some critical foreign policy errors. That, combined with the MoveOn.org, KOS Congress, is a perfect reciepe for failure on a massive level. We will be back, stronger than before. Let's give the left a chance to show us all just how truly wrong they are about just about everything. Their is a silver lining in every dark cloud. Liberalism will be on full display and will be given a chance to stand on it's own merits. Does anyone on this blog really think the liberal agenda will work? I don't
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ibmkeyboard Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:42:13am |
re: #1821 doriangrey
With in minutes of hearing Barak Obama was elected President of the United States Russia threatens the United States... Look's like Biden was right... Looks like it's going to get really ugly really soon...
“The Iskander missile system will be deployed in Kaliningrad region to neutralize, when necessary, the missile shield,” Medvedev said.
“Radioelectronic equipment located in the western region” of Russia in the Kaliningrad region “will jam objects of the U.S. missile defense system,” Mr. Medvedev said.
Iskander missiles have a range of about 250 miles and use conventional warheads, according to news reports. The United States say the missile shield is needed to intercept missiles from states including Iran and does not threaten Russia. But Russia says it regards the system as a threat and has warned that it would target such installations in lands that belonged to the Warsaw Pact.
Russia says: Here Mr. Obama suck on this.
Bambi calling UN at 3am-cell phone.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:42:15am |
re: #1849 doriangrey
God never promised that bad things wouldn't happen to good people, or the Jews, he did promise to save a remnant of the Jews and in fact he did.
Oh, I agree... it was the "God let this happen, don't worry, it's cool" read I had on that post I reacted to.
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doriangrey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:42:40am |
re: #1855 rightside
Morning dorian.
Good morning rightside... A little coffee in your whiskey this morning?
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beblebrox Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:42:47am |
re: #1846 Big Steve
Type 1 at that age is unusual. Have you had cortizone injections in the last year or two. There are cases of people who were borderline Type 1 but had no symptoms were cortizone or other steroids have triggered it.
no, nothing. I am told i have what is called in some circles Type 1.5, which means that i had some sort of auto-immune reaction in adulthood which destroyed my pancreas.
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BaseballMom57 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:43:36am |
re: #10 BirdFLU
A couple thoughts on our new president:
Who will be the first prominent African American to say that Obama is "not really black?"
I was thinking this EXACT thought this morning, Bird. It will be interesting. And frightening.
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doriangrey Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:43:42am |
re: #1858 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Oh, I agree... it was the "God let this happen, don't worry, it's cool" read I had on that post I reacted to.
Got ya...
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songbird Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:44:31am |
re: #46 lizard by the bay
I'm late in responding to this posting, but here it is:
The reason we have Obama as president now is not Bush's fault. Bush will be vindicated eventually.
Obama is president now because Republicans strayed from their principles and through a flawed nominating process chose a RINO as their candidate.
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Killer Tomato Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:44:52am |
The only thing I can think of to say that won't get me tossed off of here is 'just poop'.
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FrogMarch Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:45:31am |
re: #1803 soxfan4life
Just when I thought I couldn't feel any lower. Thanks alot. That being said I am praying for my brothers and sisters in the armed forces this morning. To quote Jack Nicholson from A Few Good Men, what you did today weakened a nation.And probably cost lives.
Sorry.
Reality bites right now. Like I said, Obama may have won anyway. He had an amazing ground game. But after Acorn and this election, is anyone feeling confident that our system is clean? I'm not.
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yochanan Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:45:35am |
I intend to return to G-D who has been Israel's savior in troubled times for all of history.
you will still see me in here as i feel real at home with you lizards
MAY G-D BLESS US ALL we will surely need it.
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tappin52 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:46:30am |
Does anyone know how to build a cave dwelling?
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alien_mind Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:46:57am |
re: #1838 Texas Heathen
Well I see in addition to the other wonderful news of last nite that Murtha got himself re-elected. * shakes head slowly *
How someone can insult his own constituency and still get re-elected is just beyond me.
Does everyone in Pennsylvania wear "Kick Me" signs on their backs?
How on earth can you explain this?
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soxfan4life Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:47:09am |
re: #1824 FrogMarch
Let's see how far those investigations of ACORN go now. Until we get photo ID laws in all states we will be subject to this type of BS. On another topic, I move to put David Axelrod in a category with Benedict Arnold, first Deval Patrick and now Barack Obama. How much more damage should this scumbag be allowed to do?
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Desert Dog Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:47:43am |
re: #1853 beblebrox
I've been diabetic since I was 16. I watch what I eat, keep in good shape and have a positive attitude. My level goes up and down, so I have to watch it. It's drag at times, but I have a normal life.
As for your ex-wife, it sounds like you are better off without her! There are tons of wonderful women out there...go find one!
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doppelganglander Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:06:01am |
I feel so much better. This is the only site I want to see today.
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Kerr Avon Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:08:51am |
So when does the CIA start informing Obama about all the secret enemies/plots against the US? I would love to find out if that has any effect on Obama at all.
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Kerr Avon Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:10:30am |
Al Franken not done yet. Automatic recount triggered in Minnesota.
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slokat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:13:29am |
Well -
The Sun came up today.
My wife still has her job.
My boat didn't sink.
The IRS hasn't confiscated my company assets.
Obama is president elect.
four outa five ain't bad...
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:14:53am |
We're "kind of" back.
My DT's are subsiding.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:15:55am |
re: #1878 pat
How the weather on the Garden Isle this morning?
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doppelganglander Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:24:40am |
re: #1777 Jeff S.
So what happens if terrorists strike on our soil again, and O says something to the effect of, "We will not retaliate, or respond to this with forceful action anywhere. Rather, we will listen to and seek to accomodate their grievances."
Could we then see a military takeover of our civilian government?
By our military? Not a chance.
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maddogg Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:35:08am |
re: #1699 3 wood
Wait until the college kids who helped vote this Marxist into office try to get a job when they graduate.
Yes, they will be joined by MY college kids who did not vote for Obama, but will still get to pay the price.
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tigger2005 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:38:36am |
re: #1876 Kerr Avon
So when does the CIA start informing Obama about all the secret enemies/plots against the US? I would love to find out if that has any effect on Obama at all.
(Obama muttering to himself at security briefing): Wow, they're that far along with that plot? They've been holding out on me.
CIA officer: What was that, Mr. President?
Obama: Mmm, never mind.
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aggieann Wed, Nov 5, 2008 11:35:00am |
re: #449 slokatI think I need a new bumper sticker...
something like -
O no! -or- Uh O!
...too subtle?
How about just "O"
I've seen one, black with white text, that has the O in the style of the W stickers, and underneath in small letters is SHIT!
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