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Overnight Open Thread

Open | Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:58:44 pm PST

Hope is ambiguous, but fear is precise.

Leo Rosten

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1 Buck  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:00:03pm

At last the overnight thread...

2 two_heroes  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:02:03pm

Leo Rosten is a wonderful writer.

3 BakaRanger  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:02:16pm

India 1 Pirates 0

4 stuiec  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:02:24pm

Listen to them -- lizards of the night! What music they make!

5 stuiec  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:03:38pm

re: #2 two_heroes

Leo Rosten is a wonderful writer.

Even so, the quoted sentiment is not correct. There is such a thing as inchoate fear, nameless dread.

6 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:05:46pm

From the previous thread:

Anybody up for solving a good mystery?

Would it help if I said it involved beer?

The only drawback is: I can't tell you what this is for. You'll have to solve it without knowing why.

Ready?

The mystery is: What are the brands of beer depicted in this photo? Especially the one on the left, which is the most visible.

The only clue I have is that this photo was likely taken in Europe -- most probably England or Eastern Europe. So the brands are likely to be from that region, though not necessarily.

Who's up to the challenge?

7 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:07:09pm

The can on the right may very well be ABC beer from Cambodia.

But what I'm most interested in is: What's the beer on the left?

8 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:07:35pm

re: #6 zombie

Here's a page with many photos of beer cans, from all over. Click the links, you'll get a page with a stack of cans. You don't have to click every link, as you'll see. Some are older, they're apparently collectible, but it might give us a company to look into further.

9 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:08:01pm

re: #8 gop_patriot

I'm looking, btw. Haven't found the right one yet...

10 pat  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:08:50pm

I have had my fill of beer tonight. lol

11 wtc394  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:10:57pm
12 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:12:01pm

re: #11 wtc394

This may help the search

That's my favorite site so far for searching.

13 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:13:19pm

Excellent sites y'all have found.

As I mentioned in the last thread, I recommending downloading sitesucker from download.com. You can use it to crawl through any site and grab all of the .jpg's, .gif's, etc. They'll all get put in a folder, and then you can open them all and look through them extremely quickly.

14 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:18:07pm

A Polish beer, Perla Chmielowa- looks very similar, might have changed in 4 years also.

15 FortunateSon  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:19:38pm

Yes, hope is ambiguous enough to get an empty suit elected, but only fear can motivate the populous to take the plunge into statism.

16 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:20:24pm

Quite a few Finnish beers in red cans

[Link: beercannews.com...]

17 FortunateSon  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:22:51pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

Finnish beer? I never would have thought...and I'm half Finnish. How is it?

Of course, being 20, I have never had any experience with beer of any nationality...

18 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:24:00pm
19 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:25:28pm

[Link: beercannews.com...]

There's a joke in there somewhere

20 Karridine  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:26:46pm

A Czech candidate for Beer On the Left:

4 down, 3 from LEFT

21 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:27:24pm

re: #14 gop_patriot

A Polish beer, Perla Chmielowa- looks very similar, might have changed in 4 years also.

Hmmmm, not an exact match. We'd have to fnd a version of their logo that was closer -- white all around the oval, with a longer name-banner.

22 Karridine  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:27:49pm

re: #20 Karridine

A Czech candidate for Beer On the Left:

4 down, 3 from LEFT

23 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:28:18pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

Quite a few Finnish beers in red cans

[Link: beercannews.com...]

Don't see any matches though.

24 wtc394  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:28:52pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

it's just screaming for a bailout

25 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:29:05pm

www.ebeercans.com

26 Karridine  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:29:31pm

re: #22 Karridine

Nah. What was I thinking.
Disregard! #20 and #22

27 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:29:48pm

re: #22 Karridine

Eh, I'm not convinced. Not close enough. Too many details "off."

28 Adrenalyn  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:34:14pm

re: #6 zombie

Stella Artois is popular with my relatives
if that helps
but I could not sincerely tell you if the left is indeed S.A.

29 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:34:34pm

re: #27 zombie

Eh, I'm not convinced. Not close enough. Too many details "off."

I agree. We're not there yet.

30 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:35:57pm

re: #5 stuiec

Even so, the quoted sentiment is not correct. There is such a thing as inchoate fear, nameless dread.

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

"Yea, though i walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I shall fear no evil, for i am the meanest sonofabitch in the valley."

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man but one."

31 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:37:05pm

From the sublime to the ridiculous...

[Link: cansmartbeercans.com...]

32 wtc394  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:40:38pm

huge mistake rooting through the English beer section 5 1/2 hrs. after the liquor store closed.

33 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:41:17pm

re: #32 wtc394

It is a rather frustrating task, huh?

34 Karridine  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:41:46pm

I believe that it is one of the double-tall cans, with the holder's hand covering the bottom half of the can; and a medallion - logo branded on white dominating the top-half of the can. Green strip bordering the pull-top end from the logo-flash on the cylinder...

35 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:42:57pm

I'm starting to think that Zombie may have to email one of the geeks on the beer can sites.

36 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:43:17pm

I'm thinkin' maybe the Hansa Pils company might have made a can that looked like the one on the right in the original photo.

37 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:43:23pm

Latvian beer...
Green logo with red ribbon. Not exact, but thought I should put it out here. Can't find a picture of a can though, except for that first page, and it's not the same. Could have changed or might be different versions.

38 wtc394  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:43:44pm

re: #33 Last Mohican
yea, compounded by my utter lack of preperation. Haven't had a good beer in the house since the last Steelers game.

39 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:44:12pm

re: #34 Karridine

I believe that it is one...

i believe i'll have another beer while y'all are farting 'round with this.....

/CHANGE!

40 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:45:29pm

re: #32 wtc394

huge mistake rooting through the English beer section 5 1/2 hrs. after the liquor store closed.

i just have to walk out to the BBQ frig.....

which is not the same as the house frig.

41 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:45:32pm

This is not an exact match, but it's the only can I've found with the correct red banner. Other details are similar too.

42 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:48:21pm

re: #41 zombie

This is not an exact match, but it's the only can I've found with the correct red banner. Other details are similar too.

Bro, that aint even close to the one on the left.

I think it starts with an EN btw.

43 Karridine  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:48:30pm

re: #37 gop_patriot

But the more I look the more I think the REDNESS in the 'ribbon' is reflection from the holder's red jacket... NOT part of the can

44 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:48:36pm

re: #41 zombie

Also, thanks for wasting the next couple hours of mine :)

45 wtc394  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:48:38pm

re: #40 redc1c4

sounds nice but I always thought bbq's used a grill...
/ducks

46 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:49:02pm

re: #18 Sharmuta

[Link: beercannews.com...]

[Link: beercannews.com...]

What about this one?

47 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:49:02pm

No, now that I look at it more closely, unless they had a major logo redesign, it couldn't be Hansa, because the brand name is in a big frame, not in the mystery picture.

48 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:49:53pm

re: #46 Sharmuta

What about this one?

Not even close.

49 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:49:58pm

If hope is ambiguous, then what is change?

50 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:50:22pm

re: #44 WrathofG-d

Also, thanks for wasting the next couple hours of mine :)

Participation in the Great Beer Can Hunt is strictly voluntary!

51 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:50:32pm

re: #46 Sharmuta

I think that's the closest one yet, but it's still not the right one.

52 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:51:01pm

Anyone have any 'solid' information the upcoming 'stimulus package' they are thinking of proposing? Anyone know if we will be seeing redistributed wealth checks in the mailbox?

53 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:51:46pm

re: #50 zombie

Participation in the Great Beer Can Hunt is strictly voluntary!

You do realize that when you make something voluntary it is nigh on mandatory for the lizard army to respond. ;)

54 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:51:54pm

re: #50 zombie

Participation in the Great Beer Can Hunt is strictly voluntary!

You shouldn't have posted that -- I was looking forward to Blackeyed Pierce showing up here tomorrow and begging for permission to stop searching.

55 BlueCanuck  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:53:05pm

Okay, I give for now. Will have to wait until the google tides shift a bit. But here's a site that may assist next time. Think of it as a how to and zen guide to searching the net.

/may have to go back for a refresher course myself.

56 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:54:01pm

re: #50 zombie

How are we sure its a beer?

Do we have a country of origin?

Time frame?

Continent?

57 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:56:06pm

This is even tougher than I thought it would be!

58 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:56:50pm

re: #57 zombie

This is even tougher than I thought it would be!

And yet you seem to be enjoying yourself and amusing the mighty lizard army.

59 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:57:52pm
60 NY Nana  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:58:25pm

re: #10 pat

But saying that, have you ever had He'Brew? ;)

Dang...not available in Hawaii yet....

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams!

61 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:58:30pm

Without a clearer pic, zombie, it might be tough. It could be domestic, imported, microbrew- European, American. It could be a limited edition design like Octoberfest. I would search around for wholesalers/importers who might deal with a lot of european beers to see if it looks familiar to them. If they have websites, they might have links to products.

62 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:58:50pm

I think I found it:
Goeterland Beer

Found on this page- from Spain. Could be a Dutch beer distributed in Spain, not sure.

63 zombie  Mon, Nov 24, 2008 11:58:58pm

re: #56 WrathofG-d

How are we sure its a beer?

Do we have a country of origin?

Time frame?

Continent?

Not sure of anything.

Most likely to be the U.K. or Eastern Europe. Mostly like 4-ish years ago. Almsot certainly beer/ale/stout/etc.

In fact, I'm not interested in the beer per se -- only insofar that its brand would would give me a clue as to where the picture was taken.

64 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:00:04am

re: #62 gop_patriot

Or it could be late and my own beer has muddled my brain. lol Someone check it out.

65 zombie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:01:22am

re: #62 gop_patriot

I think I found it:
Goeterland Beer

Found on this page- from Spain. Could be a Dutch beer distributed in Spain, not sure.

Interesting. Many points of similarity. But that exact can is a different design. Will search for other versions.

66 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:02:32am

re: #62 gop_patriot

That is dang close but the pic seems to have a green stripe on the bottom & top that Goeterland is missing.

67 zombie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:03:37am

re: #65 zombie

Interesting. Many points of similarity. But that exact can is a different design. Will search for other versions.

OK, this is crazy: That photo is the only photo on the entire Web of Goeterland Beer! How obscure is that?

68 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:03:47am

US Giving Gitmo Detainees Game Boys, Art Classes, Movie Nights to "Distract Them From Global Jihad"....


[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

69 Last Mohican  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:04:49am

Goeterland isn't quite right. The red ribbon in the pic curves up like a smile at the ends, whiereas Goeterland's curves down like a frown. Also in the pic, there's a word with big letter right above the red ribbon. Whereas Goeterland has its big letters only within and below the ribbon.

70 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:05:45am

re: #68 Dustyvet

US Giving Gitmo Detainees Game Boys, Art Classes, Movie Nights to "Distract Them From Global Jihad"....


[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

Be a terrorist, and you get all of the following for free:

1. Top quality healthcare paid for by U.S. taxpayers who can't afford their own.
2. Halal meals.
3. Prayer mats, Korans, and further miscellaneous religious accessories upon demand.
4. Relentless media fawning.
5. The adoration of international human rights groups, university students, and NGOs.
6. English classes.
7. Art classes, Game Boys and film nights.
8. Three trips to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Not a bad deal.

71 Last Mohican  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:06:31am

Okay, I'm giving up. For now. I live on the East Coast. It's late.

Zombie, why not contact one of the unbelievable world-class beer can geeks that we have turned up in our searches. There are a surprisingly large number of them. I suspect that, if you cast a wide net, at least one will email back within about 30 minutes with the right answer.

72 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:06:49am

re: #30 redc1c4

Hmmm Spaten Optimator.

73 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:08:27am

re: #65 zombie

Fun, but I really MUST do some other tasks, today.

Zombie, IF they're drinking imported Cambodian beer, couldn't they have been in (anywhere, Belgium, Nederlands, IMPORTING COUNTRY) drinking imported (Goeteland, Dinkybrew, NeverKnown) brew?

I wish you well, but it is a tenuous clue, at best Zom

74 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:09:06am

re: #65 zombie

Interesting. Many points of similarity. But that exact can is a different design. Will search for other versions.

The banner on your mystery can goes up on the ends, the Goeterland goes down.

75 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:09:29am

re: #45 wtc394

sounds nice but I always thought bbq's used a grill...
/ducks

you can grill ducks, but they're likely better smoked.... which is what *real* bbq is.... tossing meat on a hot grill directly over coals is *not* bbq.

however, if yhou want to split the difference, here's a refrigerator smoker

/thin blue smoke

76 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:09:41am

re: #69 Last Mohican

More than that, the can is too small. Compare mystery-pic, holder's hand GRIPS the lower HALF of the can...

77 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:10:15am

re: #76 Karridine

And there's the GREEN stripe at the top, missing in Goat Land

78 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:10:32am

re: #67 zombie

OK, this is crazy: That photo is the only photo on the entire Web of Goeterland Beer! How obscure is that?

One more, and another similar can, but I don't think they're the same, unless they've changed the banner in 4 years.

79 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:13:53am

re: #72 Mel Lono

Hmmm Spaten Optimator.

i settled for a *really* cold Nasty Ice (they're cheap & 5.9%) and sniped another rat off the wall..... the little bastids is getting sneakier.

80 wtc394  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:13:55am

re: #75 redc1c4

I was schooled on real bbq when I went to visit my cousins in SC. Every year he has a big bash and when I finally made it down he spent 2 hrs. trying to explain all that goes into it. I, unfortunatly have neither the time nor patience to pull off good bbq.

81 zombie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:13:56am

re: #71 Last Mohican

Okay, I'm giving up. For now. I live on the East Coast. It's late.

re: #73 Karridine

Fun, but I really MUST do some other tasks, today.

You are both wise, and I will emulate you!

Must catch some zzzzz's now, but if anybody finds the answer, post it here in the middle of the night! Thanks.

82 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:16:03am

re: #81 zombie

Night zombie, thanks for the brain stretcher.

83 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:18:07am

Damn.....starting next year, Jimmy Carter's back in the White House.

And we're fresh out of Panama Canals.

84 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:18:42am

re: #70 Dustyvet

Be a terrorist, and you get all of the following for free:

1. Top quality healthcare paid for by U.S. taxpayers who can't afford their own.
2. Halal meals.
3. Prayer mats, Korans, and further miscellaneous religious accessories upon demand.
4. Relentless media fawning.
5. The adoration of international human rights groups, university students, and NGOs.
6. English classes.
7. Art classes, Game Boys and film nights.
8. Three trips to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Not a bad deal.

And then there's Number Nine

85 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:21:33am

re: #83 Fenway_Nation

Damn.....starting next year, Jimmy Carter's back in the White House.

And we're fresh out of Panama Canals.

I'm thinking there's a deal in the works for Alaska and Sarah is thrown in for free.

86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:24:51am

re: #83 Fenway_Nation

Damn.....starting next year, Jimmy Carter's back in the White House.

And we're fresh out of Panama Canals.

Obummer has plenty to work with, at least for starters...Caliphornia, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas and Alaska.

Mornin folks.

87 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:24:58am

And without even trying, I manage to kill the thread.

88 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:26:00am

re: #87 Fenway_Nation

So what will you hold over littleoldlady's head when she trys to leave then?

/trouble with being a one trick lizard.
//white smoke

89 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:26:52am

re: #86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Obummer has plenty to work with, at least for starters...Caliphornia, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas and Alaska.

Mornin folks.

The 0bama Journey of Self-Discovery Administration is gonna be one hell of a ride.

90 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:31:47am

re: #80 wtc394

I was schooled on real bbq when I went to visit my cousins in SC. Every year he has a big bash and when I finally made it down he spent 2 hrs. trying to explain all that goes into it. I, unfortunatly have neither the time nor patience to pull off good bbq.

get a WSM and it'll do most of the w*rk for ya, unless you want to get fancy....

for instance, i modified my basic WSM into *this*

91 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:33:49am

re: #85 Mel Lono

I'm thinking there's a deal in the works for Alaska and Sarah is thrown in for free.

right up until she shoots everyone involved, then dresses them out for jerky.

/i'd rather mess with Mandy %-)

92 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:35:19am

re: #91 redc1c4

Now that's Homeland Security for you!

93 shiplord kirel  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:37:01am

Breaking news from a morally equivalent alternate universe!

Lubbock TX

Enraged Fundamentalists Battle Troops, Police Over Desecration Report

During a sermon today at the Mount Antioch Baptist Bible Church, the Reverend Dr. Joe Bob Yarnell called for a "Holy Crusade" in response to unconfirmed media reports that a Texas Tech coed had desecrated a Bible during a graduation party/orgy at a local fraternity house.
Enraged protestors poured from the church, overwhelmed police lines, and rampaged through a nearby neighborhood. A number of Volvos and Volkswagens were burned in the streets. Two ACLU lawyers, rushing to the scene to ensure due process for the protestors, were lynched and their bodies hung from lampposts.
The protestors then advanced toward the Texas Tech campus, gathering strength from other churches along the way. The crowd set fire to offending facilities, and battled police and hastily called-up National Guard units.
Suspected infidels were hounded through the streets and a number were caught and burned alive at hastily erected stakes in public parks.
Dozens of head-shops, record stores, and intimate apparel outlets were burned to the ground, and many other businesses were looted.
"The Bye-Bull is the sa-kerd word o' Gawd and we ain't lettin' no goddamn hippie fornicators des-ser-cate it. We got titty bars and honky-tonks for that!" declared one protestor as he torched a pile of Playboy magazines outside a looted 7-11 store.
The protest was finally quelled by airborne troops who landed by parachute near the Civic Center. At least 65 people were killed and local hospitals report hundreds of injuries.

"We are naturally sensitive to the concerns of the Christian Community and the protection of its sacred texts," declared Texas Tech president Guy Bailey during a Sunday evening press conference. "We feel their pain at this horrid allegation and we promise that the alleged graduation party incident will be fully investigated and those responsible, if any, will be punished to the fullest extent of the speech and conduct code."

94 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:40:33am

re: #89 Fenway_Nation

The 0bama Journey of Self-Discovery Administration is gonna be one hell of a ride.

got that right: one helluva ride

95 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:42:57am

re: #92 Mel Lono

Now that's Homeland Security for you!

now you know why the Russians never tried crossing the Bering Straits. %-)

96 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:46:12am

ok, so now *i've* killed the thread..... and it didn't even take a train

97 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:46:40am

Bush Pardons unlawful use of Pesticide

No mention of Border Agents Compean and Ramos.

98 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:50:25am

re: #96 redc1c4

ok, so now *i've* killed the thread..... and it didn't even take a train

I'm still looking at beer/cider/whatever cans. Stopping now, before my eyes fall out.

99 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:51:29am

re: #97 Mel Lono

Bush Pardons unlawful use of Pesticide

No mention of Border Agents Compean and Ramos.

I sure hope and pray that he pardons them. :/

100 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:58:37am

re: #85 Mel Lono

I'm thinking there's a deal in the works for Alaska and Sarah is thrown in for free.

What's happening with Palin?

101 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 12:59:28am

Back after some tomato parmesan bisque, garlic bread and a half-hour Venture Brothers episode. Has the thread reached triple digits yet?

102 Smilla  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:00:09am

If you haven't seen it already, Iowahawk does it again:

Obama Names Bill Clinton to Presidential Post
WASHINGTON DC - Ending weeks of speculation and rumors, President-Elect Barack Obama today named Bill Clinton to join his incoming administration as President of the United States, where he will head the federal government's executive branch.

"I am pleased that Bill Clinton has agreed to come out of retirement to head up this crucial post in my administration," said Obama. "He brings a lifetime of previous executive experience as Governor of Arkansas and President of the United States, and has worked closely with most of the members of my Cabinet."

So Obama can go back to being a, uh, community organiser type of guy.

103 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:01:25am

re: #102 Smilla

you saved me the trouble...... %-)

GMTA!

104 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:01:59am

re: #72 Mel Lono

Spaten (Optimator is my beer of choice for the last thirty years but the price is prohibitive for an everyday beer.

105 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:03:14am

re: #104 fiat_lux

I left off a )

106 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:04:10am

re: #104 fiat_lux

Spaten (Optimator is my beer of choice for the last thirty years but the price is prohibitive for an everyday beer.

my beer of choice for the last 31 years or so has been "open".

(after that i start getting fussy. %-)

107 Ledger1  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:05:39am

re: #102 Smilla

I like it!

[here are some choice lines]

While the naming of Clinton appears to have momentarily calmed jittery financial markets, it sparked ripples of disapproval at liberal websites like Huffington Post and DailyKos. The progressive blogosphere was an early key source of support for Mr. Obama's candidacy, but a steady stream of Clinton-era appointees since the election has left some charging that he had betrayed his campaign promises to bring them to Washington as part of a sweeping culture of change -- a charge that Mr. Obama vehemently accepted.


"Let's face it, it's obvious I'm in way over my head here," explained Obama. "Anyone paying attention knows I am a disaster waiting to happen, and who can blame them? I mean, just look at the stock market…

"Oh, for crissakes. Are you kidding me? Are you friggin' kidding me?" asked Obama. "Of course I betrayed those godd*mned [Kos] idiots. Have any of you actually spent five minutes with them? I have, unfortunately. Nothing personal, but I wouldn't trust these internet windowlickers with a plastic spork from Taco Bell, let alone a freaking $3 trillion dollar budget global superpower. Look, I may be naive, but I'm not stupid. And if Kose or Koz or whatever the f*ck his name is thinks for one second I give a rat's ass about who he wants in charge of the Treasury Department, he's even stupider than he looks."

See: Obama Names Bill Clinton

108 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:05:39am

re: #104 fiat_lux

I look for it on sale in markets. It's often overlooked as a non-seller and priced down.NS.

109 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:06:31am

re: #106 redc1c4

A wise man one said, " I would rather have a free bottle in front me than a pre-frontal lobotomy".

110 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:07:31am

re: #108 Mel Lono

I look for it on sale in markets. It's often overlooked as a non-seller and priced down.NS.

i got several 12's of Negro Modelo that way the other weekend.......
$8.50/ea.

/suckas!

111 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:07:48am

re: #109 fiat_lux

A wise man one said, " I would rather have a free bottle in front me than a pre-frontal lobotomy".

I think we have a winner. Serve em up!

112 Brit in Japan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:08:00am

Zombie: It looks like a Grolsch - err I'm new and can't do links - hope this works...

[Link: www.ectrade.cz...]

Oh, and that reminds me, I think I owe someone from South Africa a six-pack.


BiJ.

113 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:08:16am

re: #110 redc1c4

i got several 12's of Negro Modelo that way the other weekend.......
$8.50/ea.

/suckas!

another favorite...

114 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:10:37am

re: #107 Ledger1

I cant' get to the link. WTH is Bill getting into now?

115 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:11:37am

re: #108 Mel Lono

Mel, I haven't checked the price in several years but I'll take a second look. Thanks.

116 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:11:54am

re: #112 Brit in Japan

heh heh, after staring at the picture in question and numerous labels, I can definitely say that's not it :)

/sorry but the coloring is all wrong.

117 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:12:44am

re: #89 Fenway_Nation

Kinda like being on a run-away train going 120mph, huh?

118 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:15:03am

Lono out.

119 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:16:41am

re: #109 fiat_lux

A wise man one said, " I would rather have a free bottle in front me than a pre-frontal lobotomy".

the wiser man said: "here comes the king....

120 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:17:27am

re: #110 redc1c4

i got several 12's of Negrao Modelo that way the other weekend.......
$8.50/ea.

/suckas!

whoops!

121 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:18:34am

re: #117 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Kinda like being on a run-away train going 120mph, huh?

the Dead wrote a song about that.......

122 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:19:52am

re: #118 Mel Lono

Lono out.

gonna take your advice and leave Blue to explain the fruitcup situation to everyone......

/white smoke

hasta y'all

L8r!

123 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:20:26am

re: #122 redc1c4

besides that, i keep killing the thread. %-)

124 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:21:12am

re: #119 redc1c4

Thank you for utilizing the way-back machine. I loved that commercial. I understand that the Clydesdale re the descendants of medieval war horses.

125 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:21:36am

What? Blue's modifying the fruitcup tonight?

126 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:21:38am

re: #122 redc1c4

Yeah, yeah, I am always the clean up guy.

/one of these days I will start tossing it into the ferment bucket and leave it.

//white smoke.

127 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:21:57am

Iran, Syria Seek Expanded Nuclear Cooperation with NK

Have-at-it boys. Between Obummer & ElBaradei ze koast iz klearz.

128 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:21:58am

re: #123 redc1c4

besides that, i keep killing the thread. %-)

LOL

Goodnight, Red. Sleep well. :)

129 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:23:37am

re: #124 fiat_lux

"Clydesdales are"

130 Smilla  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:29:18am

re: #114 Mel Lono

Go to: [Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

and enjoy.

131 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:29:44am

re: #125 Fenway_Nation

What? I'm trying to keep up! Did someone say, "Those who are late do not get fruit cup"?

132 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:29:53am

Time for bed, goodnight, and see y'all later. :)

133 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:31:25am

Night gop, weet dreams.

134 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:34:19am

re: #131 fiat_lux

We're still a little ways away from Designated Fruitcup Distribution Timeframe, but red has a tendency to 'modify' said Fruitcup with certain....*ahem* chemical enhancements.

135 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:34:52am

re: #50 zombie

can you show the pic. clear and not pixalated?

136 Ledger1  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:35:14am

re: #114 Mel Lono

The links works for me.

137 Smilla  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:39:00am

re: #127 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Iran, Syria Seek Expanded Nuclear Cooperation with NK

Have-at-it boys. Between Obummer & ElBaradei ze koast iz klearz.

Yikes! Be afraid...

138 SolidOcelot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:39:18am

re: #127 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Iran, Syria Seek Expanded Nuclear Cooperation with NK

Have-at-it boys. Between Obummer & ElBaradei ze koast iz klearz.

Oh, joy. With 0 in charge, you can only assume that this will get worse and worse. "Respect" usually doesn't win much leeway with aggressors.

139 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:41:13am

re: #127 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Iran, Syria Seek Expanded Nuclear Cooperation with NK

Have-at-it boys. Between Obummer & ElBaradei ze koast iz klearz.

I am so glad I live in the southern hemisphere. So far away from all of this.

140 Ledger1  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:41:37am

Here is another one. This time it is from Liberal Larry:

[It’s a spoof site so take it with a grain of salt]

Al Qaeda's number two, Ayman al Zawahri, released a video today praising Malcolm X, and slamming America as an "criminal imperialist opressor".

I know what you're thinking: he's obviously angling for a spot in President Obama's cabinet. Well, too bad, Big Al, but you blew it with that "House Negro" remark. The Democrat Party does not tolerate such racially divisive language when its directed at anyone but a Black Republican. Perhaps if Zahawri clarifies his remarks and explains that he was actually referring to Condoleeza Rice, there might be a place for him on the pulpit at Obama's church.

No Cabinet Post for Zawahri

141 Smilla  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:42:12am

re: #139 Crux Australis

Not that far from North Korea though.

142 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:42:54am

re: #134 Fenway_Nation

OK, as long as I gets me my fruit cup (Which I am due), I can swallow a number of enhancements. What harm could there be?

143 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:44:03am

re: #135 yochanan

Unfortunately from what zombie said earlier, that is a blow up from a section of a larger picture. Zombie is trying to track down a possible location for said larger picture.

144 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:44:07am

re: #142 fiat_lux

What harm could there be?

Famous last words.

*muwa-ha-ha*

145 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:44:28am

shhh, don't tell anyone: Iran immediate threat

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates, Nov 24, (Agencies): Britain’s foreign policy chief said Monday that Iran’s nuclear program presents an immediate threat to the Middle East and the rest of the world.

The comments by British Foreign Secretary David Miliband come a few days after a report by the International Atomic Energy Agency said its investigation into Iran’s nuclear program was “deadlocked.” “A nuclear Iran would present a decisive blow to those seeking peaceful solutions to the region’s problems,” said Miliband....

Maybe the Euro's could try negotiating... again. Iran sure didn't seem to be that much of a problem over the past 6..7 years, now they're concerned?

146 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:44:39am

Ah geeks, isn't there anything they won't quibble about?

147 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:46:08am

re: #142 fiat_lux

I take it you haven't experienced a red fruitcup have you?

/sit down buckle up, and enjoy the ride flight.

148 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:47:53am

re: #141 Smilla

Not that far from North Korea though.

Pyongyang to Darwin: 3573 miles (5750 km)
Pyongyang to San Francisco: 5594 miles (9003 km)
(Source: WorldBook 2000 Atlas, distance calculator.)

149 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:50:09am

re: #139 Crux Australis

The Rooshkies have Western Eurabia in their sights; Iran, South Asia, the mid-East, North Africa; Yugo Hugo, SA; and last but not least....China.... Crux...China's gunna have one helluva naval fleet pretty quick.

150 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:56:32am

re: #147 BlueCanuck

Nay, I am ignorant of a red fruitcup. verything I know, I learned from Mel Brooks. WTF is a red fruitcup?

151 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:58:30am

is red fruitcup anything like RED KRYPTONITE?

152 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 1:59:27am

re: #149 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

IN A WORD FORMOSA

153 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

154 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:00:25am

Good morning littleoldlady, thanks for the fruitcup.

155 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:00:30am

w00t!

/Powerball, here I come!

156 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:00:52am

BlueCanuck! :-)

157 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:01:18am

Thanks for the fruitcup, lol. I hope you have a great day!

158 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:01:31am

Dont' forget your scaly friends once you win the powerball, LoL.

159 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:01:32am

good morning L.O.L.

160 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:02:02am

re: #151 yochanan

Yochanon, Rred kryptonite only causes unpredictable changes in Superman. Red fruitcup affects us all.

161 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:02:26am

L.O.L. what is this RED FRUIT CUP I am hearing about?

162 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:04:28am

re: #161 yochanan

redc1c4 "enhances" the fruitcup. I think I may be cutting off the flow when he takes off now. We needed it during the election craziness.

163 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:04:47am

Sharmuta! :-)

Not likely. Party mode. :-/

/on the upside, it's good for a 3 pound loss... ;-)

Fenway! :-)

Of course I won't forget you! I'll be waving to you daily from my beachfront mansion...

yochanan! :-)

164 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:08:16am

"red fruitcup" has.... additives.

165 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:09:00am

re: #162 BlueCanuck

redc1c4 "enhances" the fruitcup. I think I may be cutting off the flow when he takes off now. We needed it during the election craziness.

Hon- we're going to need it for 4 years.

166 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:14:12am

re: #164 Sharmuta
My inner Polar bear says this is not good.

167 wahabicorridor  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:17:35am

good morning all!

For any gingerale fans - I was clued in to Vernors gingerale which I found on Amazon and am drinking my first glass. Most excellent, I must say.

168 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:19:03am

re: #161 yochanan

Yochanon, (May I call you John?) I have no idea what red fruitcup is.

169 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:19:12am

Sydney to Anchorage -7350 miles (11800 km)
Sydney to LA - 7500 miles (12050 km)
Sydney to Hawaii - 5060 miles ( 8150 miles)
Sydney to Pyongyang - 5260 miles ( 8460 km)
Sydney to Teheran - 8019 miles ( 12900 km)

Sydney to Jerusalem - 8782 miles ( 14134 km)
Sydney to New York - 10000 miles (16000 km)
Sydney to London - 10600 miles ( 17000 km)
Sydney to Lisbon - 11300 miles (18186 km) furthest capital from Sydney

170 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:24:27am

re: #169 Crux Australis

I live in San Jose, California: How far would I have to travel to be bitten by a boomslang?

171 Smilla  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:24:29am

re: #169 Crux Australis

What about as the crow flies?

Fallout continues to spread though and On The Beach was set in Melbourne.

172 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:25:28am

wahabi! :-)

Ginger ale? NOW?

/have some coffee...

173 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:27:47am

re: #172 littleoldlady

wahabi! :-)

Ginger ale? NOW?

/have some coffee...

Lady...:)


Mom says you can dance on the furniture too...:)

174 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:28:29am

re: #173 Dustyvet

Dustyvet! :-)

I see we haven't been evicted yet... ;-)

175 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:29:26am

re: #170 fiat_lux

I live in San Jose, California: How far would I have to travel to be bitten by a boomslang?

Pyongyang to San Francisco - 5613 miles (9033 km)

How far from San Francisco to San Jose?

176 Smilla  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:29:49am

re: #169 Crux Australis

Ummm...Isn't it the destination of the weapon you should be worrying about, not the country of origin?

177 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:31:08am

re: #174 littleoldlady

Dustyvet! :-)

I see we haven't been evicted yet... ;-)

Well I'm trying real hard...:) I set off the smoke detector yesterday morning...:(

178 Smilla  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:31:22am

re: #170 fiat_lux

Try South Africa for the boomslang.

179 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:32:35am

re: #175 Crux Australis

Ooooh, about thirty-five miles.

180 wahabicorridor  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:32:40am

re: #172 littleoldlady

wahabi! :-)

Ginger ale? NOW?

/have some coffee...


hello sweetie. coffee will come after the gingerale and the 'slopped up soup' (mom's recipe for when stuff in the fridge got to the 'use it or lose it' stage)

Looks to be a good day - Holy Land Foundation convictions was excellent news to wake up to - not to mention Alan Colmes leaving. What a sleazebag.

181 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:33:58am

re: #177 Dustyvet

What were you cooking?

182 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:34:24am

re: #176 Smilla

Ummm...Isn't it the destination of the weapon you should be worrying about, not the country of origin?

Are you talking about the range of the missile involved? I doubt that many countries in the world would have missile with a large/long enough range to threaten the eastern seaboard of Australia.

183 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:35:21am

I stand corrected. I thought that snake was Australian. Yes, I am an idiot.

184 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:35:25am

re: #180 wahabicorridor

You're right about both - good news!

/but we're really grasping at straws these days, aren't we?
//let's see what else aboo can come up with to bring us down to Earth...

185 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:36:18am

But I love the sound of "Boomslang".!

186 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:36:28am

re: #181 littleoldlady

What were you cooking?

Pork tenderloin...

187 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:38:29am

re: #178 Smilla

Try South Africa for the boomslang.

Sydney to Cape Town - 6861 miles (11042 km)

last one for the day, my mind can't keep up my fingers now. Hmmmpfffff (sigh)

188 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:40:45am

re: #186 Dustyvet

That used to happen to me all the time. Stopped cooking. Problem solved!

189 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:41:45am

re: #187 Crux Australis

Sydney to Cape Town - 6861 miles (11042 km)

last one for the day, my mind can't keep up my fingers now. Hmmmpfffff (sigh)

Gee and I was holding out for Sydney to Chicago

190 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:41:59am

I guess you morning folks haven't heard. CAIR is being sued. As well their corporate entity expired on the 8th of September. The papers were served yesterday or this past weekend I think.

/give me a sec to find the link.

191 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:42:31am

re: #188 littleoldlady

That used to happen to me all the time. Stopped cooking. Problem solved!

LOL, please pass the rice cakes...:)

192 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:43:59am

Okay, the link is under Islam in the link viewer up top. Number two on the list so far.

193 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:44:56am

re: #188 littleoldlady

So, who got trained to pick up the slack?

194 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:45:27am

re: #187 Crux Australis

I am sorry I misplaced a venomous snake. Good night.

195 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:46:15am

Three Little Pigs

This is a true story, proving how fascinating the mind of a six year old is. They think so logically.
A teacher was reading the story of the Three Little Pigs to her class. She came to the part of the story where first pig was trying to gather the building materials for his home.
She read . 'and so the pig went up to the man with the wheelbarrow full of straw and said: 'Pardon me sir, but may I have some of that straw to build my house?'
The teacher paused then asked the class:
'And what do you think the man said?'
One little boy raised his hand and said very matter-of-factly ...'I think the man would have said -
'Well, I'll be damned! A talking pig!'

The teacher had to leave the room.

196 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:47:00am

re: #193 BlueCanuck

Dog food. Open a can, et voilá! "Well balanced meal".

/things are ruff all over
//I may have mixed up my accents on that...

197 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:47:54am

Beethoven Symphonies

A tourist in Vienna is going through a graveyard and all of a sudden he hears some music. No one is around, so he starts searching for the source.

He finally locates the origin and finds it is coming from a grave with a headstone that reads: Ludwig van Beethoven, 1770-1827. Then he realizes that the music is the Ninth Symphony and it is being played backward! Puzzled, he leaves the graveyard and persuades a friend to return with him.

By the time they arrive back at the grave, the music has changed. This time it is the Seventh Symphony, but like the previous piece, it is being played backward.

Curious, the men agree to consult a music scholar. When they return with the expert, the Fifth Symphony is playing, again backward. The expert notices that the symphonies are being played in the reverse order in which they were composed, the 9th, then the 7th, then the 5th.

By the next day the word has spread and a throng has gathered around the grave. They are all listening to the Second Symphony being played backward.

Just then the graveyard's caretaker ambles up to the group. Someone in the crowd asks him if he has an explanation for the music.

"Oh, it's nothing to worry about" says the caretaker. "He's just decomposing!"

198 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:49:08am

re: #196 littleoldlady

And don't tell me, for a seafood diet, just get some canned cat food. ;)

/that ought to raise some hackles.

199 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:53:29am

Interesting comment I received in an e-mail.

On 12 November 2007, then-Treasurer Peter Costello warned:


"The collapse of the sub-prime US lending market which is now having reverberations around the world. And all of these things will buffet global inflation, they will buffet our economy, they will buffet exchange rates, they will affect growth and job opportunities. They will require careful management on the Budget, on tax, on structural policy, on industrial relations, on competitiveness, on investment."

(Speech 12/11/07)

I believe John Howard and Peter Costello were almost prophetic in the warnings they gave about the current economic climate. So much unlike the populist, muddle-headed bureaucrat we have for PM now.

200 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:54:50am

re: #198 BlueCanuck

STOP! You're making me hungry!

/and I'll have to hit up wahabi for some of that "soup"...

201 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:58:12am

re: #200 littleoldlady

I think I have some kibble around here.

/white smoke

202 wahabicorridor  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 2:59:40am

Dogs are odd creatures. For instance, The Fat Beagle just came to get me. She got me up to give her breakfast and I put her back to bed. Now she wants to cuddle with Mom - in bed.

okey dokey.

203 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:01:17am

re: #202 wahabicorridor

What's odd about that?

/I used to have my husband trained to do that...

204 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:06:42am

re: #203 littleoldlady

Cuddle? Or feed the dog? ;)

205 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:10:04am

re: #204 BlueCanuck

On second thought...let's not go there. :-/

Let's go to work instead. :-(

Good day, ALL!™

206 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:11:02am

re: #199 Crux Australis

I have watched in San Jose, California the median price of homes in the 2000's almost double yet the median household income has only increased modestly.
I remarked to my wife a few years ago that I hoped we would be able to take advantage of the coming real estate crash.

207 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:11:35am

Bye littleoldlady. May you have a great day today.

208 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:15:50am

Spot price of Gold is starting to creep down towards $800 this morning, although I'm nostalgic for a time when it was creeping down towards $700- like.....say....last month.

And holy shit is Rio Tinto ever taking a hammering on the London exchange. Down over 35% in one session? Am I reading that right?

Look for movement under symbol RTP on the NYSE later on today.

209 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:17:10am

Good morning all.

210 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:19:32am

Guten Morgan, Opinion.

211 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:20:40am

I mean opnion.

212 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:21:33am

re: #211 fiat_lux

I mean opnion.

Right back at ya!

213 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:21:52am

Morning Lizards!

214 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:24:17am

morning rightside, opnion. Welcome to the deadishthread.

215 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:25:50am

re: #214 BlueCanuck

Morning, BC. Pouring outside right now, and 7C

216 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:26:15am

Now what do I do? Threaten to bring this thread back to life?

217 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:28:31am

re: #215 rightside

It's about 1° here as well. The snow we had last week is gone for now. Calling for more snow this week though.

218 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:28:47am

Anybody watch Greta last night? Juron Vander Sloth is admitting that he sold Natalie Holloway for $10,000!

219 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:29:25am

re: #216 Fenway_Nation

See? That's what happens when you become a one trick pony. :D

/still working on my bag of tricks. Wonder if red left some just lying around

220 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:30:44am

re: #218 opnion

So, he's saying she's alive? Probably a cover to disguise him killing her.

221 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:31:09am

re: #216 Fenway_Nation

It is up to you! Suggest something controversial. I will fight you at every turn.

222 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:32:59am

re: #220 rightside

So, he's saying she's alive? Probably a cover to disguise him killing her.

No he is not claioming that she is alive, only that he sold her into slavery & didn't kill her.
This is hard to figure, I thought that he was home free. Why is he talking?
He even implicates his father in the cover up.

223 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:34:22am

re: #222 opnion

Well, that's what I meant...that she was alive the last time they were together. Scumbag.

224 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:34:40am

re: #222 opnion

Things were that bad for him financially? If he did sell her, does he have an idea who bought her?

225 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:37:34am

Morning, y'all.

I awoke with a strange craving for haggis, but find that for some reason I don't have a sheep's heart, liver, brain, or lungs in the larder.

Shocking oversight, and more proof to our European lizards as to the absolute poverty in which American's live.

Oh, well. I shall endeavor to make due with only oatmeal.

226 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:37:35am

re: #224 BlueCanuck

Things were that bad for him financially? If he did sell her, does he have an idea who bought her?

He is claiming that he was approached by a Dutch speaking Black man at a hotel casino. He says that the guy offered $10.000 dollars if he would get him a blond.

227 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:40:09am

re: #222 opnion

Maybe he should be sold as a towel boy for the showers in a Turkish prison.

228 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:41:58am

re: #227 Fenway_Nation

Maybe he should be sold as a towel boy for the showers in a Turkish prison.

I was watching this punk & thinking what must be going through the mind of the girl's father.

229 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:43:16am

re: #226 opnion

Did a quick scan on Wikipedia about the case. So this would be the 3rd or fourth time that he's changed his story?

/Real scum of the earth he is

230 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:43:31am

re: #169 Crux Australis

Sydney to Anchorage -7350 miles (11800 km)
Sydney to LA - 7500 miles (12050 km)
Sydney to Hawaii - 5060 miles ( 8150 miles)
Sydney to Pyongyang - 5260 miles ( 8460 km)
Sydney to Teheran - 8019 miles ( 12900 km)

Sydney to Jerusalem - 8782 miles ( 14134 km)
Sydney to New York - 10000 miles (16000 km)
Sydney to London - 10600 miles ( 17000 km)
Sydney to Lisbon - 11300 miles (18186 km) furthest capital from Sydney

How far to Indonesia?

231 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:44:43am

re: #225 razorbacker

Americans *sigh*

Maybe the oatmeal will stimulate the old brainish cells.

232 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:45:58am

re: #231 razorbacker

Meh. An apostrophe here, an apostrophe there. Who's counting anyway?

233 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:46:27am

re: #229 BlueCanuck

Did a quick scan on Wikipedia about the case. So this would be the 3rd or fourth time that he's changed his story?

/Real scum of the earth he is


That's right, this is just another one of his stories. To me at least it looks like the prosecutor & others in Aruba never wanted the truth.
I can't figure out why he contnues to talk, unless it's TV face time.

234 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:50:42am

re: #232 BlueCanuck

Not razorbacker. Besides, I've used so many that were not needed that I'm seriously considering requesting a bailout.

On that, I was talking to a little old lady the other day, and she is hot about these bailouts.

Seems that she was working for Valsic when they went bankrupt, and finds herself still in the workforce at the age of 71 due to her unionized pension disappearing in the deal.

235 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:55:22am

Hey, every time I hit "new comments," the page goes back to the main page. Any suggestions?

236 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:56:06am

re: #235 goddessoftheclassroom

Refresh the page?

237 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:56:08am

re: #235 goddessoftheclassroom

Hey, every time I hit "new comments," the page goes back to the main page. Any suggestions?

Close, then reload the browser.

238 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:57:06am

Good morning lizards!

239 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:58:14am

Just got done posting a link under World News about how once of Chavez and FARC's allies- Ecuadorian president Rafael Correa- may default on $10 billion worth of loans, leaving Caracas holding the bag.....

/Although he's been busy nationalizing some hydroelectric projects and oil fields these past few weeks.

240 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:58:42am

re: #230 razorbacker

How far to Indonesia?

Sydney to Jakarta - 3422 miles (5507 km) but
Darwin to Jakarta - 1692 miles (2723 km) and
Darwin to Bali -1095 miles (1762 km)

closest land less than 150 miles (250 miles)

241 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 3:58:48am

Good morning {goddess}. Apparently it's a common error that happens to random people. Don't know if Charles has replicated it yet. Refreshing seems to fix it mostly. At least that's what I did when it happened to me.

242 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:00:05am

re: #240 Crux Australis

Sydney to Jakarta - 3422 miles (5507 km) but
Darwin to Jakarta - 1692 miles (2723 km) and
Darwin to Bali -1095 miles (1762 km)

closest land less than 150 miles (250 miles)

Alrighty then. I don't see what could possibly go wrong.

243 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:01:06am

re: #235 goddessoftheclassroom

Clear the cache, close the browser and the reload.

244 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:01:21am

re: #241 BlueCanuck

Any word on what lit up the sky in Canada a couple nights ago?

245 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:01:38am

re: #222 opnion

No he is not claioming that she is alive, only that he sold her into slavery & didn't kill her.
This is hard to figure, I thought that he was home free. Why is he talking?
He even implicates his father in the cover up.

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you over the possibility that his daddy was in on the cover up! I mean daddy is a lawyer and was a siting judge at the time. Shocking!
//

246 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:02:03am

re: #243 Bubblehead II

Clear the cache, close the browser and the reload.

That sounds like me defending my freedom from liberals.

247 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:02:09am

I see via Ace of Spades that 250 Talibannies ambushed 30 Marines only to find themselves outnumbered.

Shocka.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

248 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:02:28am

re: #244 jetpilot1101

No word yet. Keep your tinfoil hats handy though. ;)

/think it may have been a bolide myself.

249 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:04:52am

re: #248 BlueCanuck

No word yet. Keep your tinfoil hats handy though. ;)

/think it may have been a bolide myself.

I made one special just for this. If you ask me, I think it was an alien ship landing for the inauguration of our lord messiah BHO. Seems like he might not only be the savior of the world but the savior of the universe. Maybe the aliens are having economic difficulties as well.

250 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:06:15am

re: #208 Fenway_Nation

And holy shit is Rio Tinto ever taking a hammering on the London exchange. Down over 35% in one session? Am I reading that right?

Look for movement under symbol RTP on the NYSE later on today.


Something's wrong there, can't be only because BHP didn't buy them. Not -35%.

251 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:07:16am

re: #249 jetpilot1101

You know? I just haven't been getting the same exchange for my quataloos lately. You just may be right there.

252 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:07:41am

re: #250 Rancher

Something's wrong there, can't be only because BHP didn't buy them. Not -35%.

I notice that as well. Something is fishy here. Mining stocks should be doing well in this environment due to inflation fears. To see one plummet because they didn't get bought, especially in a huge up day, is disturbing.

253 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:07:53am

re: #250 Rancher

Yeah, it's down to -36% even now.

254 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:08:41am

re: #244 jetpilot1101

Any word on what lit up the sky in Canada a couple nights ago?


Supposedly a meteor but they can't find it last I heard.

255 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:09:58am

re: #253 BlueCanuck

Yeah, it's down to -36% even now.

It's down 35% in pre-market trading.

256 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:10:13am

re: #252 jetpilot1101

Well demand is down but that must have already been factored in.

257 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:10:29am

re: #242 razorbacker

Alrighty then. I don't see what could possibly go wrong.

If someone wanted to come to Australia from the north they would have to negotiate shark infested waters and once they reach land contend with crocodiles and venomous snakes amongst other nasties and if they landed in the wrong spot hundreds of miles of desert.

No wonder it wasn't until 1770 when James Cook discovered the fertile eastern coast that Europeans finally settled here.

258 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:10:59am

re: #254 Rancher

Yeah, pity it fell south of the DEW line. It might have been able to track it's path and location.

/then again, maybe it's a good thing it was south of the DEW line. . . . . .

259 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:11:35am

re: #256 Rancher

Well demand is down but that must have already been factored in.

Yes, demand is down but that is no reason to take a 35% haircut. Something isn't right with their books and BHB figured it out.

260 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:12:47am

re: #244 jetpilot1101

It is being reported as as a Your text to link...meteor by Fox news.

261 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:16:21am

re: #260 Bubblehead II

It is being reported as as a Your text to link...meteor by Fox news.

I'm going with my alien ship theory. The lord messiah has summoned the inhabitants from the far reaches of the galaxy or the seventh circle of hell; I can't decide.

262 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:16:25am

Good morning, Lizards! Apparently, Joe Biden's Senate replacement has been named, and Delaware is going the Election '08 route: the replacement is a "highly qualified" longtime friend and aide of Biden.
Now, that's qualifications for ya!

263 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:16:38am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open slightly up. The Futures are up slightly, the Nikkei and Hang Seng were up 3 to 4% overnight.

However, I would also not be surprised to see some selling after that to take profits after two days of rises.

264 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:18:01am

re: #262 Wyatt Earp

Good morning, Lizards! Apparently, Joe Biden's Senate replacement has been named, and Delaware is going the Election '08 route: the replacement is a "highly qualified" longtime friend and aide of Biden.
Now, that's qualifications for ya!

Well look who America elected president; a man with stunning credentials and phenomenal qualifications. I'd expect nothing less from the hacks in DE.

265 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:18:47am

Gotta go. See youse guys in a few hours.

Don't take any wooden dirham. They seem to have a slight problem brewing.

266 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:19:05am

Fun website: Will Obama be allowed to become President?
I can't tell if this is parody or intended seriously.

267 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:20:00am

re: #260 Bubblehead II

You'll notice that the mother said "the house shook twice and it sounded like dinosaurs were walking".

Now, how would she know what "dinosaurs were walking" would sound like if humans had not walked with dinosaurs?

268 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:21:07am

re: #263 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the market to open slightly up. The Futures are up slightly, the Nikkei and Hang Seng were up 3 to 4% overnight.

However, I would also not be surprised to see some selling after that to take profits after two days of rises.

I would agree with you. Watch the last hour of trading. Yesterday there was a good sell off and I expect another one with the DOW down about 300 today.

BHO can only prop this market up so much with is political appointments. I expect December to be a horrible month for the market and my guess is we're close to 7000 before the new year.

269 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:21:16am

Obama promotes fiscal restraint, big spending

When you're The One- you can do both!

270 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:23:20am

Well things are picking up here so it's time for me to go. Stay scaly all.

271 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:23:24am

re: #266 Jim in Virginia

Jim? How the hell did you find this? This site is either funnier than the Onion, or scarier than hell.

272 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:23:54am

re: #267 fat bastard vegetarian

Well doesn't the D.I. have a fossil that shows humans did live with dinosaurs?

//////////////////////////////

Have to go. Work calls.

L8R

273 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:26:33am

re: #271 fat bastard vegetarian

Jim? How the hell did you find this? This site is either funnier than the Onion, or scarier than hell.


Looks like a Nation of Islam site.

274 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:26:39am

re: #266 Jim in Virginia

Fun website: Will Obama be allowed to become President?
I can't tell if this is parody or intended seriously.

Jim that is scary as hell. I'm fairly certain that whatever crackpot runs that site believes every word he writes.

275 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:29:08am

re: #271 fat bastard vegetarian

Jim? How the hell did you find this? This site is either funnier than the Onion, or scarier than hell.


He posted on Belmont Club, buried deep in the comments. A shameless blog pimp but it worked. I answered him.

276 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:29:33am

Get ready for this:

Obama Promotes Fiscal Restraint, Big Spending

WASHINGTON -- President-elect Barack Obama wants to project fiscal restraint even as his economic team assembles a massive recovery package that could cost several hundred billion dollars.

A day after introducing the captains of his economic team and promoting a giant jobs plan, Obama on Tuesday was to lay out his budget belt-tightening vision. The dual images -- big spender and disciplined budget watcher -- were designed to give both political and economic assurances to the public, the Congress and the financial markets.

My guess for the "fiscal restraint" part? Cut the military. Somehow the intellectual whiplash of trying to spend and not spend at the same tile will be lauded as "nuanced leadership" by the shills and sewer rats in the MSM. It will be seen as silly by the markets.

Meanwhile:

Venezuela's Chavez Welcomes Russian Warships

CARACAS, Venezuela — Russian warships neared Venezuela's Caribbean coast on Tuesday in a show of strength meant to send a cautionary message to the United States and showcase Moscow's ambitions of making inroads in Latin America.

The deployment of a naval squadron led by the nuclear-powered cruiser Peter the Great is the first of its kind in the Caribbean since the Cold War and was timed to coincide with President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Caracas — the first ever by a Russian president.

I think the timing is more designed to tell CBBHO that he is seen as a very weak sister.

277 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:30:30am

re: #264 jetpilot1101

Well look who America elected president; a man with stunning credentials and phenomenal qualifications. I'd expect nothing less from the hacks in DE.

Living in Philly, I am getting scared of being downwind from DE anymore.

278 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:32:45am

re: #277 Wyatt Earp

Living in Philly, I am getting scared of being downwind from DE anymore.

The entire southern half of the country should be scared living downwind from DE. That state repulses me. I'll be driving to Baltimore from MA this Thanksgiving day and I'm so thankful I only need to spend 30 minutes in that state. It will cost me $13 in tolls though.

279 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:33:22am

re: #268 jetpilot1101

BHO can only prop this market up so much with is political appointments. I expect December to be a horrible month for the market and my guess is we're close to 7000 before the new year.

There is a second wave of credit defaults coming and that is the unsecured consumer debt, mainly credit cards.

I am also just starting to hear reports that people are simply breaking into abandoned houses and taking them over. The banks and finance companies are starting to run into this and don't know what to do.

280 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:36:33am

re: #279 3 wood

There is a second wave of credit defaults coming and that is the unsecured consumer debt, mainly credit cards.

I am also just starting to hear reports that people are simply breaking into abandoned houses and taking them over. The banks and finance companies are starting to run into this and don't know what to do.

I'm hearing the same things in regards to consumer credit cards. When folks start defaulting on those, the treasury won't be able to print enough money to bail out the banks. Black Friday will be a huge indicator of where this economy is heading. If spending is down significantly, get ready for a wild ride come December. Last time we had a depression, the market lost 97% of it's value. We are down roughly 40% from the 14K highs, 97% would put us under a grand.

281 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:37:51am

re: #278 jetpilot1101

The entire southern half of the country should be scared living downwind from DE. That state repulses me. I'll be driving to Baltimore from MA this Thanksgiving day and I'm so thankful I only need to spend 30 minutes in that state. It will cost me $13 in tolls though.

$13 in tolls, but much more in self-respect. Heh.

282 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:38:10am

Don't fall out of your chairs, but Amy Winehouse is back in the hospital.


Singer Amy Winehouse admitted to hospital

LONDON (Reuters) - Singer Amy Winehouse is in hospital after reacting badly to medication, a spokesman said on Tuesday.

I think you're going back to rehab, I say yeah, yeah yeah.

She's the #1 draft choice in most dead pools.

283 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:39:45am

re: #281 Wyatt Earp

$13 in tolls, but much more in self-respect. Heh.

I make it a point to stop at a DE rest area every time so I can take a dump in in the state. Yes Joe, that is what I think of your state and I'd do the same in IL.

284 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:41:26am

re: #280 jetpilot1101

Black Friday will be a huge indicator of where this economy is heading. If spending is down significantly, get ready for a wild ride come December. Last time we had a depression, the market lost 97% of it's value. We are down roughly 40% from the 14K highs, 97% would put us under a grand.

Could happen, but my bigger fear is hyper inflation.

I think the Obama is just going to print it like they did in post WW1 Germany and that will create double digit inflation.

Bloomberg is calculating over 7 trillion.

When this turns around, and it will, look for inflation to jump.

285 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:41:43am

Can someone tell why banks are increasing credit card rates if they think folks will start defaulting? Sounds like they're asking for it. And could people be thinking that if mortgagees are being bailed out credit card debtors will be too?

286 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:42:16am

re: #282 3 wood

Don't fall out of your chairs, but Amy Winehouse is back in the hospital.


Singer Amy Winehouse admitted to hospital


I think you're going back to rehab, I say yeah, yeah yeah.

She's the #1 draft choice in most dead pools.

*sobbing* LEAVE AMY ALONE! JUST LEAVE HER ALONE! :)

287 Bumr50  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:42:27am

re: #282 3 wood

Crackhead.

288 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:43:34am

re: #287 Bumr50

Crackhead.

Wood's a crack head?

289 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:43:56am

re: #284 3 wood

290 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:44:10am

re: #287 Bumr50

Crackhead.

She's following in the footsteps of Rick James.

291 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:44:14am

Well, we always have the hope of a pick and shovel job with Obamas WPA.

Speaking of jobs, got to get ready for mine.

Later.

292 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:44:50am

re: #278 jetpilot1101

I'll be driving to Baltimore from MA this Thanksgiving day and I'm so thankful I only need to spend 30 minutes in that state. It will cost me $13 in tolls though.


You can miss the Del Turnpike toll- exit just before it, head north a half mile and take the old highway, get back on 95 just past teh toll booth. Depending on traffic it may save time too.
Tiemof rme to go to work. Play safe y'all

293 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:44:57am

re: #285 Rancher

Can someone tell why banks are increasing credit card rates if they think folks will start defaulting? Sounds like they're asking for it. And could people be thinking that if mortgagees are being bailed out credit card debtors will be too?

Yes but what people fail to realize is there isn't a printing press big enough to print the amount of money it wold take to bail out consumer credit card debt.

294 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:45:49am

re: #292 Jim in Virginia

You can miss the Del Turnpike toll- exit just before it, head north a half mile and take the old highway, get back on 95 just past teh toll booth. Depending on traffic it may save time too.
Tiemof rme to go to work. Play safe y'all

Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it.

295 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:46:50am

re: #282 3 wood

The more I look at Amy Winehouse, the more I realize how underrated country music singers like Faith Hill are.....in terms of talent and not looking like a total drugged-out skank.

296 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:47:10am

re: #285 Rancher

Can someone tell why banks are increasing credit card rates if they think folks will start defaulting? Sounds like they're asking for it. And could people be thinking that if mortgagees are being bailed out credit card debtors will be too?

Cause people have withdrawn their cash from banks, which they used to fund their credit card departments. So the banks have to jack up their rates. They also don't want you using the cards cause they are afraid you will default on them and there is no collateral for credit cards for them to take.

297 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:47:46am

re: #293 jetpilot1101

Yes but what people fail to realize is there isn't a printing press big enough to print the amount of money it wold take to bail out consumer credit card debt.

Its unsecured debt, the banks will take a beating if it happens. And the banks can't be allowed to fail, right?

298 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:49:15am
299 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:53:50am

When all is said and done there are going to be very few people with good credit ratings. I wasn't planning on it but I may just buy me a truck. Maybe a Ford.

300 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:54:05am

Good Morning LGF
Well, the fat's in the fire up in the Great White North with the release of the Moon Report, which has recommended that s.13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act be repealed. This has the Canadian Jewish Congress hopping mad as it once again finds itself perversely aligned with the dark forces of Islamist censorship.

Here is the text of s.13 for those who haven't read it lately./

Canadian Human Rights Act ( R.S., 1985, c. H-6 )
Hate messages
13. (1) It is a discriminatory practice for a person or a group of persons acting in concert to communicate telephonically or to cause to be so communicated, repeatedly, in whole or in part by means of the facilities of a telecommunication undertaking within the legislative authority of Parliament, any matter that is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by reason of the fact that that person or those persons are identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination.

Prohibited grounds of discrimination
3. (1) For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for which a pardon has been granted.

301 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:54:10am

re: #297 Rancher

Its unsecured debt, the banks will take a beating if it happens. And the banks can't be allowed to fail, right?

The current mantra is "to big to fail" but unfortunately if you bail out the consumer credit card debt you have to increase the money supply. We have nearly doubled the money supply in the past 12 months. If we continue down this road, hyperinflation is a real possibility. President Obama will be asking Mugabe for a loan unless he can reign in spending and let some of these institutions fail.

From the beginning, if we had simply let these institutions fail without a bailout, there would have been a lot of pain but we'd be on the upside by now. By bailing them out, all we have done is put a cadaver on life support. I know it's hopeful when the DOW goes up 900 in two days but it's a dead cat bounce and it's coming back down. A month ago, remember talking heads on CNBC and FBN calling a bottom at 10K. No one knows what is going on and the two magicians apprentices (Bernake & Paulson) at the top running this charade really don't have a clue. It's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better and the more government intervenes, the more painful it will be.

302 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:58:19am

Futures now negative.

303 monkeytime  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:58:22am
304 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 4:58:44am

re: #266 Jim in Virginia

My lord if this wackjob beleives anything he writes he may just end up being a Domestic advisor for Obama.

Rustler

305 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:00:21am

re: #304 rancher

My lord if this wackjob beleives anything he writes he may just end up being a Domestic advisor for Obama.

Rustler

Maybe Jim stumbled on Bill Ayers' website by accident.

306 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:03:16am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

I'm a bit late for all the beer talk, but while browsing through the Australian tonight I found this fantastic job, now in the hands of a young bloke from the US

Chief Beer Officer!

IT'S the sort of job most men can only dream about: American Scott Kerkmans beat 7800 wannabes from 30 countries to land the plum role of chief beer officer -- thought to be a world first -- with Four Points by Sheraton

and.....

"It's the ultimate dream job," he admits. "Even working in the brewing world for several years, I never expected a position so great to come along. Thankfully, people love craft beer and I get to help them learn more about it."

Kerkmans, a beer judge and former head brewer, is advising on the company's newly launched Best Brews program, where he acts as a sort of roving ambassador, sharing his passion for a cleansing ale with hotel guests across the world. The Phoenix-based 28-year-old visited Australia and dropped in on Beijing, Shanghai and Singapore before heading to the Great American Beer Festival in Denver.

What a job! :-)

307 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:03:28am

re: #301 jetpilot1101
Yeah, your preaching to a choir member for sure. Summers might fight it but Geithner's a bailout believer. The big three will get their bailout, the unions demand it. I hope Iraq can stand on its own because they won't be getting a penny under Obama. Ditto the military. What other cuts will the Dems allow? None that I can think of. Hyperinflation in a depressed economy, worse than stagflation. We may look at the Carter years as mild in comparison.

Real Rancher

308 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:06:41am

re: #307 Rancher

Yeah, your preaching to a choir member for sure. Summers might fight it but Geithner's a bailout believer. The big three will get their bailout, the unions demand it. I hope Iraq can stand on its own because they won't be getting a penny under Obama. Ditto the military. What other cuts will the Dems allow? None that I can think of. Hyperinflation in a depressed economy, worse than stagflation. We may look at the Carter years as mild in comparison.

Real Rancher

I agree on all points. As a member of the military, we all know the cuts are coming and we are already planning for them. Quite honestly, I wish Obama would cut the CG's mismanaged Deepwater program. That would save billions of dollars and hopefully prevent my service from purchasing anymore failed programs.

309 jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:08:33am

Holy Crap!

Here comes the consumer credit card bailout!

Paulson really is going to hose us.

310 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:09:20am

re: #309 jetpilot1101

Holy Crap!

Here comes the consumer credit card bailout!

Paulson really is going to hose us.

This is theft.

311 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:10:12am

re: #310 opnion

This is theft.

Government is theft.

312 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:11:54am

re: #311 MandyManners

Government is theft.


pretty much.

313 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:12:04am

Thank god i don't make enough to be responsible for funding this bailout. I've never been happer to be in that bottom 10% of wage earners in the country. It's never bothered me but its never made me overly happy until now.

Rustler

314 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:12:39am

There needs to be a law passed stating that the term "government money/funds" will be replaced by the phrase "those who produce".

Gubmint isn't bailing anyone out, we are.

315 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:12:46am

re: #310 opnion

This is theft.

Now we have to pay for personal irresponsibility. It's bad enough to bailout idiots at CITI, but now I have to bail out my next door neighbor who is 25K in debt because she is F$#&ing irresponsible! WTF!

316 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:13:17am

Good Morning Lizards!

It is a rainy 50 degree day here in CT; However, I have my family, my friends (all of you), my health and my coffee, so all is well in my world. I hope this day finds all of you well.

317 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:14:00am

re: #316 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

It is a rainy 50 degree day here in CT; However, I have my family, my friends (all of you), my health and my coffee, so all is well in my world. I hope this day finds all of you well.

Good morning! It's a lovely day in MA today as well.

318 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:14:57am

re: #314 rightside

There needs to be a law passed stating that the term "government money/funds" will be replaced by the phrase "those who produce".

Gubmint isn't bailing anyone out, we are.

One thing that people seem to forget so often is that GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF IT'S OWN MONEY! It only has our money.

319 gregg  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:15:14am

re: #309 jetpilot1101

Holy Crap!

Here comes the consumer credit card bailout!

Paulson really is going to hose us.

I always pay off my credit cards each month. Sounds like I should max them all out and stop paying. Free money.

320 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:15:24am

re: #317 Jetpilot1101

Good morning! It's a lovely day in MA today as well.

At least you can jet out of it. :-)

321 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:15:57am

But we all know the credit card bailout will be met with overwheming support from the overspending populous of the united states of poor fiscal judgement.

Rustler

322 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:16:03am

re: #318 Ford_Prefect

One thing that people seem to forget so often is that GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF IT'S OWN MONEY! It only has our money.

It's not that they forget, they don't want to remember.

323 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:16:11am

I'd love to just go off the grid.

324 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:16:32am

re: #318 Ford_Prefect


Exactly, and cannot create any wealth what so ever!

325 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:16:48am
326 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:18:03am

re: #319 gregg

I always pay off my credit cards each month. Sounds like I should max them all out and stop paying. Free money.

Sounds like a good old fashioned shopping spree for my wife and I today! It's going to be a great Christmas.

/sarc

Seriously, the only reason he is announcing this is to make people spend money on their credit cards this Friday so the economy doesn't look as bad.

327 bp sf  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:19:42am

Filed under "Stole It, Fair and Square":

Posted on Tue, Nov. 25, 2008


Ex-ACORN worker admits voter-registration fraud

A 34-year-old Chester man arrested last month for alleged voter-registration fraud admitted his guilt yesterday in Delaware County Court.

Jemar Barksdale, an ex-employee of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), was accused of turning in voter-registration cards for 18 already-registered voters, altering information, and forging signatures. He entered a negotiated guilty plea to charges of forgery, identity theft, and tampering with public records, said Deputy District Attorney Greg Hurchalla.

Under the terms of the agreement approved by Delaware County Court Judge Patricia Jenkins, Barksdale, who spent about a week in prison on the charges, must serve six to 23 months on house arrest, undergo a psychiatric evaluation, perform eight hours of community service, and pay $574 in restitution to ACORN, Hurchalla said.

328 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:19:47am

re: #318 Ford_Prefect

One thing that people seem to forget so often is that GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF IT'S OWN MONEY! It only has our money.

People don't get that, they think that the gobmint has nothing but cash & noone gets a bill.
There is also a belief that the oppresor (that would be you) owes a debt for something.

329 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:20:52am

Attention:

Anyone over there wanting to bailout my credit card? Please?

I'm a world citizen, just like your President-Elect :-)

330 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:21:06am

re: #326 Jetpilot1101

Sounds like a good old fashioned shopping spree for my wife and I today! It's going to be a great Christmas.

/sarc

Seriously, the only reason he is announcing this is to make people spend money on their credit cards this Friday so the economy doesn't look as bad.

If that's his plan I hope it works. I work retail.

331 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:21:40am

re: #328 opnion

People don't get that, they think that the gobmint has nothing but cash & noone gets a bill.
There is also a belief that the oppresor (that would be you) owes a debt for something.

Oppressor? I never touched her. rimshot

332 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:21:46am

re: #324 rightside

////You forget we are speaking of the one. Miraculously on January 20th the stock markets will shoot up, we will learn to harness all the hotair that comes from the conservative media as a clean source of energy, and world peace will break out.

Rustler

333 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:23:51am

Good morning Lizards.....

334 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:23:57am

re: #329 aussiemagpie

Attention:

Anyone over there wanting to bailout my credit card? Please?

I'm a world citizen, just like your President-Elect :-)

"People of Berlin! People of the World!"

335 apachegunner  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:24:37am

re: #333 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards.....

let me be first to greet you dorian, pass your cup :>)

336 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:25:09am

Well at least we aren't talking about hagis this morning.

337 apachegunner  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:25:40am

yeah, we threw that up yesterday re: #336 Jetpilot1101

Well at least we aren't talking about hagis this morning.

338 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:25:42am

re: #266 Jim in Virginia

Fun website: Will Obama be allowed to become President?
I can't tell if this is parody or intended seriously.


I asked them in the comments of the last post.

We are trying to decide if this site is satiric parody or if you really believe this stuff. Either way its a very funny site, keep up the good work.
339 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:26:10am

re: #333 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards.....

Morning Dorian.

340 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:26:11am

re: #335 apachegunner

let me be first to greet you dorian, pass your cup :>)

Ah yes, thank you gunner.....

341 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:26:23am

Notre Dame & USC , Saturday. Las Vegas has USC as 30.5 point favorite.
Extend Charlies contract!

342 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:26:43am

re: #338 Rancher

Do you hear that sound? It's the sound of moonbat heads exploding in response to your question.

343 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:26:50am

re: #282 3 wood

Amy is a train wreck, but, IMHO, the Rehab song is amazing. First time I heard it, thought it was an old Motown piece I had never heard. Then I thought, this is way to good for me to have never heard it.

344 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:27:03am

re: #332 rancher
the one is voting "present" at this time.

345 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:27:18am

re: #333 doriangrey

Morning dorian!

346 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:27:43am

re: #341 opnion

Notre Dame & USC , Saturday. Las Vegas has USC as 30.5 point favorite.
Extend Charlies contract!

Yes, in the spirit of the current financial crisis, ND should bailout Chucky Weiss and pay him even more money for failing.

347 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:27:52am

re: #329 aussiemagpie

Attention:

Anyone over there wanting to bailout my credit card? Please?

I'm a world citizen, just like your President-Elect :-)

My parents are going to get $2100 between them because of the Australian Governments stimulus package. Paid to pensioners.

348 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:28:13am

re: #334 opnion

"People of Berlin! People of the World!"

Yes!
Yes!

(Where do I send my bank /credit card details? )

Thank you in anticipation President Elect Obama!

349 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:28:50am

re: #344 rightside

I thought he was Ummm voting president now to honor the times.

Rustler

350 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:30:19am

re: #346 Jetpilot1101

Yes, in the spirit of the current financial crisis, ND should bailout Chucky Weiss and pay him even more money for failing.


Exactly, to deny him another contract extension based upon failure is just hateful. He needs to have the self-esteem that only gobs of cash can produce.

351 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:30:28am

re: #339 Ford_Prefect

Morning Dorian.

Morning ford.....

re: #345 rightside

Morning dorian!

Morning rightside......

352 Nevergiveup  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:30:54am

IAEA cheif ElBaradei: Let Syria have nuclear aid

By Reuters

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

You get caught trying to cheat and build a weapon and then they want to give you money. Hum? Is this kinda like a bailout? Or worse? Has the whole world gone mad?

353 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:31:24am

re: #347 Crux Australis

My parents are going to get $2100 between them because of the Australian Governments stimulus package. Paid to pensioners.

Hello Crux!

They deserve it

And re your previous post about being a long way from anywhere - I agree, just not when we have to sit on a plane for hours and hours :-)

354 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:31:48am

re: #336 Jetpilot1101

Well at least we aren't talking about hagis this morning.


[Link: www.electricscotland.com...]
for those who asked

355 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:33:09am
356 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:34:31am

re: #342 Jetpilot1101

Do you hear that sound? It's the sound of moonbat heads exploding in response to your question.


Lets see if the moderator approves it. I linked back to this thread so if we get a ton of new trolls next registration its my fault.

Real Rancher

357 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:34:55am
358 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:35:42am

re: #352 Nevergiveup

IAEA cheif ElBaradei: Let Syria have nuclear aid

By Reuters

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

You get caught trying to cheat and build a weapon and then they want to give you money. Hum? Is this kinda like a bailout? Or worse? Has the whole world gone mad?

Well you know, after those darn pesky Israeli's blew up the Syrian nuclear weapons facility the Syrians obviously need financial aid to build their Jew incinerating weapons of mass destruction. I mean seriously, how can the Syrians be self respecting decent Arab Muslims if they dont have the weapons to destroy Israel? /s

359 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:36:11am

Pleasant breakfast viewing.

Compare and contrast these to albright, pelosi, helen thomas, et al.

/shiver me timbers!

360 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:37:17am

re: #348 aussiemagpie
Email me your credit card number. I'll take care of the rest. ;^)

361 opnion  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:37:53am

re: #358 doriangrey

Well you know, after those darn pesky Israeli's blew up the Syrian nuclear weapons facility the Syrians obviously need financial aid to build their Jew incinerating weapons of mass destruction. I mean seriously, how can the Syrians be self respecting decent Arab Muslims if they dont have the weapons to destroy Israel? /s

Exactly, it is about self-esteem. The office of the President Elect will be pushing a taxpayer bailout.

362 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:39:24am

re: #359 rightside

Pleasant breakfast viewing.

Compare and contrast these to albright, pelosi, helen thomas, et al.

/shiver me timbers!

Well.............. That Amanda Carpenter sure is hot...... MKH did look as good as she really is though.....

363 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:39:41am

re: #359 rightside

that would explain the growth of the number of gay men

just kidding lizardettes

364 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:40:11am

re: #359 rightside

Hate fur. Guess I won't wear it.

365 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:41:19am

re: #364 fat bastard vegetarian

Fur is just what keeps my food fresh and warm until I kill it.

Rustler

366 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:42:06am

re: #363 yochanan

me bad i thought the pics would be of the old dem crons.

367 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:42:06am

re: #363 yochanan

that would explain the growth of the number of gay men

just kidding lizardettes

Lizardettes are all major hotties in my mind. I actually have pictures in my head of what everybody looks like.

368 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:42:14am

re: #353 aussiemagpie

Hello Crux!

They deserve it

And re your previous post about being a long way from anywhere - I agree, just not when we have to sit on a plane for hours and hours :-)

I think it strange that Sydney is closer to Alaska (Anchorage) than LA. Maybe because of the curvature of the earth and the fact that Alaska is so far west.

369 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:42:18am

re: #365 rancher

Fur is just what keeps my food fresh and warm until I kill it.

Rustler

So right you are rustler.... FBV however would never eat a furry carrot.....

370 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:42:46am

re: #362 doriangrey

I wasn't happy with the way she turned out, honestly. I wouldn't turn her down, don't misunderstand LOL. Too much makeup IMHO.

Beautiful women, all!

371 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:42:59am

now if i could just find kosher haggis

372 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:43:14am

Good morning lizards, a cold and wet morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

From VRT Nieuws:

Mon 24/11/08 17:17 - Vlaams Belang supremo Filip Dewinter has filed a complaint against the video sharing site YouTube and the rap group The Cicatris. The Flemish MP is angry about a video featuring a song by The Cicatris, a West Flemish band.
Mr Dewinter claims that the lyrics of the song include death threats against him.

Do we know anything about this group?
The name of the song that has DeWinters' panties in a twist is called "Belga".

I have to go to work this morning, anyone want to dig?
I'm putting a link up top and bringing it to Charles' attention.

373 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:43:29am

re: #369 doriangrey

So right you are rustler.... FBV however would never eat a furry carrot.....

Ate a furry carrot once. Dude! Saw pretty colors.

374 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:43:54am

re: #364 fat bastard vegetarian


Then you should try nauga's

375 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:44:42am

re: #372 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose. (by the way, in my head you look like Ann Margaret).

376 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:44:45am

re: #369 doriangrey

how about eating a fur pie?

377 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:44:56am

re: #367 fat bastard vegetarian

Lizardettes are all major hotties in my mind. I actually have pictures in my head of what everybody looks like.

ROTFLMAO..... Yup me too, every time I think of goddessoftheclassroom I see a mental picture of the teacher from Van Halens "Hot for Teacher"....

378 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:45:07am

re: #360 rightside

Email me your credit card number. I'll take care of the rest. ;^)

You're not a Nigerian prince are you? :-)

379 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:45:26am

re: #374 rightside

Then you should try nauga's

Many naugas die so I can have shoes.

380 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:45:55am

re: #378 aussiemagpie
No, but I do work for one, what a coincidence, eh?

381 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:47:06am

re: #376 yochanan

how about eating a fur pie?

I refuse to comment on that on the grounds that Mandy will undoubtedly smack me with her clue-by-four if I do....... ;O

382 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:47:16am

re: #377 doriangrey


I don't feel tardy..

383 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:47:53am

re: #377 doriangrey

I picture goddess as a softer (prettier) version of Lilith from Frazier. Bebe Neuwirth is major league "smart gawjus".

384 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:48:21am

re: #382 rightside

I don't feel tardy..

I brought my PeNcil..... Give me something to write on......

385 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:48:51am

re: #376 yochanan

Much perfer the Furburger.

rustler

386 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:48:52am

re: #368 Crux Australis

I think it strange that Sydney is closer to Alaska (Anchorage) than LA. Maybe because of the curvature of the earth and the fact that Alaska is so far west.

Goodness I didn't know that - another fact to be filed for future trivia nightsl

387 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:49:45am

Wow, this thread went south in a hurry.

388 3 wood  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:50:01am

The futures are now trending down, so look for the market to drop at the open.

389 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:50:03am

re: #368 Crux Australis

I think it strange that Sydney is closer to Alaska (Anchorage) than LA. Maybe because of the curvature of the earth and the fact that Alaska is so far west.

Isn't Hawaii the US's furthest Western, Southern, and Eastern state?

390 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:50:13am

re: #381 doriangrey
That's because you are one of these.

391 Miss Trixie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:50:32am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Snow fell overnight to the tune of three inches and more is smattering down as I speak. Looks like it's here to stay but at least it's not that cold, thanks goodness because I've discovered a teeny hole in the sole of my new boots and I've got a soaker on my right foot. On top of that, as I overslept a little this morning, to make up time I was rushing to get out the door, the brand new button I had attached to my coat came right off in my hand and I was forced to grip my coat closed with my hand while waiting for transit in the blowing snow.

And my hair refuses to behave.

*sigh*

392 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:51:01am

Damn! from haggis to hairpie. *shakes my head*

393 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:51:19am

re: #384 doriangrey

I brought my PeNcil..... Give me something to write on......


Mrs. Rancher was a teacher, couldn't understand why all the boys were dropping their pencils till I explained it to her.

Real Rancher

394 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:51:48am

re: #380 rightside

No, but I do work for one, what a coincidence, eh?

You're the accountant?

395 Nevergiveup  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:51:52am

Last update - 15:07 25/11/2008

Top UN official: Israel's policies are like apartheid of bygone era

By Shlomo Shamir, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service

Tags: Palestinian Solidarity, UN

United Nations General Assembly President Miguel D'Escoto Brockmann on Monday likened Israel's policies toward the Palestinians to South Africa's treatment of blacks under apartheid.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

And I am sure Israel is gonna get a real fair shake? Well then again I guess it depends on what your shaking?

396 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:51:58am

re: #391 Miss Trixie
morning MT. I suggest going back home, getting back into bed, and starting over. Everyone gets a free do-over.

397 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:52:14am

re: #392 rightside

which do you perfer rightside?

398 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:52:18am

re: #394 aussiemagpie

How did you know?

399 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:52:33am

re: #391 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Snow fell overnight to the tune of three inches and more is smattering down as I speak. Looks like it's here to stay but at least it's not that cold, thanks goodness because I've discovered a teeny hole in the sole of my new boots and I've got a soaker on my right foot. On top of that, as I overslept a little this morning, to make up time I was rushing to get out the door, the brand new button I had attached to my coat came right off in my hand and I was forced to grip my coat closed with my hand while waiting for transit in the blowing snow.

And my hair refuses to behave.

*sigh*

Good morning Miss Trixie..... we we're just discussing the super hotness of our fellow Lizardetts.... and look who shows up..... ;)

400 apachegunner  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:52:53am

ahhh, Mrs Trixie. We were discussing how we imagined the lizardettes must look like, Dorian?

401 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:53:24am

re: #391 Miss Trixie

Ever read "Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day"?

You're living it. Go back to bed.

402 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:53:47am

re: #387 Ford_Prefect

Wow, this thread went south in a hurry.

Yes, there are two of us here from way down south :-)

403 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:54:35am

re: #397 yochanan


I have no preference really. They are both equally tasty and nutritious.

404 pingjockey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:54:41am

Mornin' all. No snow here, just colder than a moose in Sarahs' freezer.

405 Rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:55:09am

re: #395 Nevergiveup

Top UN official: Israel's policies are like apartheid of bygone era


Jimmah wrote the book.

406 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:55:10am

re: #400 apachegunner

ahhh, Mrs Trixie. We were discussing how we imagined the lizardettes must look like, Dorian?

Well with regard to Mrs Trixie, the phrase Hubba hubba comes to mind... But I shall not utter it lest realwest show up and sue me for infringing on his cyber sweetie.... ;)

407 realwest  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:55:26am

Good Morning all y'all - from a cool (36 degrees, going up to 54 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I'm doing ok today - but have doc's appointment early this afternoon and will no doubt feel worse afterwards (I HATE this doctor!).
How is everyone doing today?

408 Nevergiveup  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:55:39am

re: #404 pingjockey

Mornin' all. No snow here, just colder than a moose in Sarahs' freezer.

Is that kinda like when your head is on the wall looking at your ass in the freezer?

409 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:55:57am

re: #406 doriangrey

lol, speak of the devil!

410 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:10am

re: #402 aussiemagpie

Yes, there are two of us here from way down south :-)

I was waiting for that. :-)

411 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:13am

re: #391 Miss Trixie

Hello {darls}, not a good morning then for you?

412 pingjockey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:27am

re: #407 realwest
Mornin' RW. Can't you get a different doc?

413 rancher  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:31am

Israel will get a fair shake they will tarde all the current Israel to the Arab's and in turn receive 5x as much land right under the Med. You know some primo land since beachfront property sells so well.

Rustler

414 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:36am

I think Australia and Alaska have things in common. Sparsely populated (at least outside the big cities for Australia), resource rich and down to earth. Also they a relatively isolated as well. May be that's why I could relate to Sarah Palin?

415 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:42am

re: #407 realwest


Happier than a jihadi sawing off the infidels head!

416 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:43am

re: #407 realwest

Good Morning all y'all - from a cool (36 degrees, going up to 54 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I'm doing ok today - but have doc's appointment early this afternoon and will no doubt feel worse afterwards (I HATE this doctor!).
How is everyone doing today?

ROTFLMAO..... Speaking of the devil, good thing I decided to keep my thoughts to myself.... Morning real........

417 pingjockey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:56:58am

re: #408 Nevergiveup
Mwahahaha!

418 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:57:54am

re: #406 doriangrey

With Miss Trixie, because of her sing-songy sign-in I always imagine Kitty Foreman (Debra Jo Rupp) from that 70's show. Cute perky "mom" type.

419 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:58:08am

re: #407 realwest

Good Morning all y'all - from a cool (36 degrees, going up to 54 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I'm doing ok today - but have doc's appointment early this afternoon and will no doubt feel worse afterwards (I HATE this doctor!).
How is everyone doing today?

Morning Real. At least the sun is shining where you are. Here it is raning and about 50 degrees. Just lovely.

420 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:58:13am

re: #398 rightside

How did you know?

Mmmm -working for Nigerian prince.....credit card details....little clues like that :-)

421 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:58:42am

Death of the Canadian Human Rights Commision ability to persecute for 'hate crimes'

[Link: network.nationalpost.com...]

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Bier for our northern lizards! Hoo-Rah!

422 realwest  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:58:43am

re: #400 apachegunner
re: #401 fat bastard vegetarian
re: #402 {aussiemagpie}

and
re: #404 pingjockey

Good morning to you all (well, except for {aussie} where it's late eveing and here's a *smooch* for you aussie! I hope you are all doing well?

423 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:59:09am

re: #415 rightside

Happier than a jihadi sawing off the infidels head!

Damn sam, now that is just plain orgasmatronically happy.....

424 aussiemagpie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:59:39am

re: #407 realwest

Good Morning all y'all - from a cool (36 degrees, going up to 54 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I'm doing ok today - but have doc's appointment early this afternoon and will no doubt feel worse afterwards (I HATE this doctor!).
How is everyone doing today?

*Smooch* from Down Under {darls}

425 Miss Trixie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:59:39am

LOL! You guys crack me up. :D Thanks. I needed that.

{aussie} G'day darls!

426 realwest  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 5:59:45am

re: #415 rightside
Hi rightside - wish you had come up with something a little more pleasant to convey your feelings!

427 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:00:37am

re: #422 realwest

re: #401 fat bastard vegetarian
re: #402 {aussiemagpie}

and
re: #404 pingjockey

Good morning to you all (well, except for {aussie} where it's late eveing and here's a *smooch* for you aussie! I hope you are all doing well?

Cough cough... I see you left me out.... Must mean the cease and desist papers and the suit notification are in the mail.... ;p

428 yochanan  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:00:39am

found out i have cousins in OZ

429 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:00:40am

re: #418 fat bastard vegetarian

With Miss Trixie, because of her sing-songy sign-in I always imagine Kitty Foreman (Debra Jo Rupp) from that 70's show. Cute perky "mom" type.

I tend to think more like Lili Von Shtupp from Blazing Saddles.

430 pingjockey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:00:49am

re: #422 realwest
Fine here in the Northwest. It was so cold yesterday, I had sliced my hand in a couple of places while doing maintenance on some fire extinguishers and didn't start bleeding till I was halfway home and had thawed out! No snow yet.

431 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:00:57am

re: #420 aussiemagpie


Is it 3am Wednesday where you are? (roughly)

432 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:01:44am

re: #429 Ford_Prefect

I tend to think more like Lili Von Shtupp from Blazing Saddles.

nice.

433 realwest  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:01:55am

re: #416 doriangrey
Hey dorian - what thoughts was it that you were keeping to yourself? I mean I still think I deserve 75% of all the royalties on your next CD, given that I'm playing guitar, singing harmony, using an electric drum set, acting as assistant engineer and negotiationg your contract!

434 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:02:14am

re: #423 doriangrey


Someone said that a couple weeks back, I thought it was hilarious! It's a good week, half day today, rest of week off, so, yeah, good week!

435 doriangrey  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:02:15am

re: #428 yochanan

found out i have cousins in OZ

Hmmm, the wicked witch of the west and a flying monkey? j/k

436 LindaMarie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:02:37am

re: #93 shiplord kirel

You have way too much time on your hands. Had me going there for a bit.

LOL

437 Crux Australis  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:02:50am

re: #402 aussiemagpie

Yes, there are two of us here from way down south :-)

You are about 30 miles (50 km) further south than I am.

438 realwest  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:02:53am

re: #419 Ford_Prefect
Hey Ford - doncha kinda expect that weather where you are though?

439 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:02:58am

re: #429 Ford_Prefect

Hey Ford, because of your nic, I see you as Ford from the Hitchhiker movie.

I have a tremendous imagination, don't I?

440 VegasRick  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:03:01am

re: #432 fat bastard vegetarian

nice.

knockers.

441 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:03:27am

Morning Guys!

I see the trillion dollar spigot is still spraying cash all over... someone.

This can't be good.

442 rightside  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:03:40am

re: #426 realwest
ok, happier than a Miss Trixie smooch!

443 Nevergiveup  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:04:01am

Some say having students dress up as pilgrims and Native Americans is 'demeaning.' Their opponents say they are elitists injecting politics into a simple children's celebration.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Here is the "key" words in the article: Parents in this quiet university town

444 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:04:46am

re: #438 realwest

Hey Ford - doncha kinda expect that weather where you are though?

I really can't complain about the weather in CT. For the most part I like it. Mark Twain said about the weather in New England that if you don't like it, wait a minute.

445 realwest  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 6:04:50am