Video: Plaxico Burress On Gun Safety

Charles Johnsonfollow me on twitter
Video • Fri Dec 5, 2008 at 9:31 am PST • Views: 1,635

Some tips on gun safety from New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress.

Advertisement

649 comments

  • Comments do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
  • Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their views by Little Green Footballs.
  • Posts that contain phone numbers, street addresses, email addresses or other personal information will also be deleted, as will posts that consist only of a variation on the word, "First!"
  • Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.
  • Disagreement and debate are welcome, but insults and abuse are not, and may cause your account to be blocked.
  • REMEMBER: posting comments at LGF is a privilege, not a right. Abuse that privilege, and your account will be blocked.

Hide comments | Jump to bottom

1 Eowyn2  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:32:07am

All that money and so few braincells.

2 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:33:54am

Fire prevention tips from Mrs. O'leary's cow.

3 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:34:03am

What I want to know is how the hell you would not know about a loaded handgun in your pocket until you shoot off your foot with it?

4 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:34:13am

Can't tell if that was humor or well intentioned.

5 soccerdad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:35:25am

now That's good satire.

6 tedzilla99  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:35:28am

That was funny!

7 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:35:33am

What a dumbass. I'm just glad the fool shot himself rather than an innocent bystander.

8 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:35:38am

When I was about six years old, my daddy taught me that guns are always loaded and that you don't point one at someone unless you plan to kill it.

9 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:35:42am

OT Anybody got a link to live video of the OJ sentencing?

10 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:35:46am

re: #1 Eowyn2
Huh, talk about money and brain cells - just posted this on the prior thread when Charles put this thread up and sorry for the re-post:

OT and posted in spinoff links in prior thread, but you all have to read this one:

Obama raised $104 million toward election's close
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's presidential campaign raised $104 million in the weeks around Election Day, a grand finale to a successful bid that shattered fundraising records.

Overall, Obama raised nearly $750 million during his odyssey to the presidency, and his spending in the eight weeks before the election vastly outpaced that of his Republican rival John McCain, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. The reporting period covered Oct. 15-Nov. 24.

The campaign said more than 1 million contributors donated during the period, with more than half donating for the first time. Throughout the campaign, more than 3.95 million contributors gave to the eventual president-elect, his campaign said.

Obama's fundraising sum was more than the combined total of the two major parties' nominees four years ago. George W. Bush and John Kerry pulled in a total of $653 million in the 2004 primary and general election campaigns, including federal public financing money.

The final numbers underscore how pivotal the two candidates' strategies were for funding their general election campaigns: McCain accepted $84 million in taxpayer money through the public financing system; Obama gambled that he could raise far more from private money.

The two campaigns spent identical amounts in June, $25.6 million each. But from there the numbers diverged widely, until a stretch in October when the Obama financial juggernaut swamped McCain. By then, the Democrat was outspending his rival four to one.

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, was expected to report spending $30,000 on accessories for McCain running mate Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska. The RNC reported in October that it had spent nearly $150,000 on Palin for clothes and accessories. A party spokesman said Thursday that the expenditures were directed by the McCain campaign and that the garments have been returned to the party.

"The accessories used by Governor Palin and represented in the Republican National Committee's filings both in October and December with the Federal Election Commission were the result of coordinated expenditures at the campaign's direction," the spokesman, Alex Conant, said. "Accessories have been returned, inventoried, and will be appropriately dispersed to various charities."
[emphasis added, realwest]

As I've said before, Obama BOUGHT this election and rented America for four years.

11 NelsFree  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:35:59am

The large blank space below the title seems to indicate something, let me think about that...

"Master of the Obvious Deduction"

12 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:36:12am

OJ speaks, tells lies. Ho hum.

13 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:36:19am

When we played cops and robbers, I always pointed my finger to one side. My daddy was a good teacher.

14 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:36:30am

Ha ha, plaxico plaxico brain made out of plastico.

15 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:36:49am

OJ - pitiful.

16 jamgarr  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:37:00am

You can trust your Sauer
To the man who is a star
That. Great. Big. Plaxico Star!

17 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:37:15am

That is ROTFLMAO funny!

18 ScottG  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:37:30am

Wait! This was a joke?! I thought all guns shoot themselves? Isn't that why they're called automatics?

19 hazzyday  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:37:33am

Gun Safety is an extremely important issue. Movies and TV shows that have guns in them almost always fail to deliver a safe gun approach. And in a lot of cases deliver unsafe gun handling tips.

The NRA (of which I am a member) has the opportunity to help correct these bad images but doesn't think it is important enough to cover. Gun Safety should be hand in hand with gun rights.

20 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:37:56am

OMG - That's the funniest video I've ever seen out here! ROTFLMAO! LOL!

21 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:38:03am

Ok, I don't know the guy at all, never heard of him until this week, don't care much about him after this, BUT...

Is that him in the video, or just a parody?

22 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:38:49am

re: #21 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I don't know the guy at all, never heard of him until this week, don't care much about him after this, BUT...

Is that him in the video, or just a parody?

parody.

23 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:39:16am

re: #9 turn

OT Anybody got a link to live video of the OJ sentencing?

foxnews.com has it.

24 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:39:51am

re: #22 VegasRick

parody.

Thanks, because know Lizards, they would tell me it was real and I would have to spend hours trying to figure that out since I don't even know what he looks like.

25 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:40:07am

Charles you owe me a new laptop. Covered in my finest scotch. Please send to S. Africa.

26 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:40:18am
27 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:40:21am

re: #23 doppelganglander

foxnews.com has it.

Drudge has a review...

Lies
Lies
Lies

28 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:40:44am

re: #10 realwest

Now, RW, think about this for a second. Would you have concluded differently if it was the GOP candidate who raised that much money?

I have agreed in the past that money is a form of Free Speech as protected by the First Amendment, which is why John McCain's Campaign Reform Laws were such a load of crap.

I can't apply my mores to one party and then exempt the other from the same.

29 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:40:46am

Man, OJ keeps mentioning people's mothers. Does he not realize how it sounds, when his own children's mother is gone, and most people know who the hell put her in the ground?

30 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:41:21am

re: #23 doppelganglander

foxnews.com has it.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

31 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:41:27am

LOL

32 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:41:41am

Duh, now I get it. This is parody, Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himself.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I guess you can tell I don't follow sports much.

33 pat  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:41:44am

LOL. A recent study linked anti-social behavior and unusual names. Touchdown.

34 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:41:53am

I'm reminded of the video of the police officer in the classroom touting gun safety, then shooting himself in the leg.

35 akak  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:41:56am

I love the contracts in the NFL.

Your cut.

36 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:42:04am

Funny! Made his point well.

37 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:42:38am

re: #23 doppelganglander

Thanks

38 Claire  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:42:41am

Plaxico? Did a chemical tank truck go by the window of the maternity ward right before his mother gave birth, or what?

39 Land Shark  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:42:50am

ROTFLMAO! That is funny, funny stuff. I laughed until I cried.

Thanks, Charles, for a great laugh.

40 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:42:58am
41 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:43:00am

re: #32 turn

Duh, now I get it. This is parody, Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himself.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I guess you can tell I don't follow sports much.

Sports. What does this have to do with sports? What sport, shooting sports, hunting, gang warfare sport?

42 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:43:09am

The gangsta practice of putting a gun in your waistband, with the barrel pointed toward your man parts, that is just stupid on stilts.

43 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:43:16am

re: #31 bellamags

LOL

Hey there! How's things?

44 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:43:46am

re: #42 rawmuse

The gangsta practice of putting a gun in your waistband, with the barrel pointed toward your man parts, that is just stupid on stilts.

Don't forget the cap pointed to one side.

45 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:44:17am

re: #29 Cattt

Man, OJ keeps mentioning people's mothers. Does he not realize how it sounds, when his own children's mother is gone, and most people know who the hell put her in the ground?

Indicative he has the remains of a conscience .. badly mangled from his hatred and lies ... but .. still a conscience attempting to operate while broken.

46 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:44:17am

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Thanks, because know Lizards, they would tell me it was real and I would have to spend hours trying to figure that out since I don't even know what he looks like.

[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

He caught the winning touchdown in last years SB.

47 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:44:30am

re: #38 Claire

Plaxico? Did a chemical tank truck go by the window of the maternity ward right before his mother gave birth, or what?

Wikipedia merely says he was named for his uncle, with no explanation (except for the obvious implication that his grandmother was nuts too).

48 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:45:10am
49 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:45:26am

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

Sports. What does this have to do with sports? What sport, shooting sports, hunting, gang warfare sport?


I didn't recognize the name is all ...

50 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:45:41am

I am busting a gut here still. This is almost as good as the famous Julia Childs skit from SNL.

51 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:46:26am

One word.
.
.
.
Heh.

52 Pyrocles  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:46:30am

But, but, the Rethuglicans are the party of the corrupt rich! /

re: #10 realwest

53 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:46:36am

re: #50 Thanos

Link please so i can stay on the floor.

54 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:46:49am

I always thought it was the *ahem* culturally specific homage to Placido Domingo.

Sort of how the Ebonic speech impediment of Anthony has been mainstreamed as Anfernee.

55 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:47:00am

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Thanks, because know Lizards, they would tell me it was real and I would have to spend hours trying to figure that out since I don't even know what he looks like.

He has a limp...

56 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:47:16am

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

OK, second vignette: Just what the hell does he mean by "This is one safety you just don't wanna Jew."

Hmmm?

I don't think so. He said 'juke' - don't know the derivation - but, that's the word I heard.

57 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:47:41am

re: #44 Erik The Red

Don't forget the cap pointed to one side.

Personally, I think jailin' the pants is dumb too. When they run from the cops, their pants fall down and trip them. It's as if they're trying to do everything in the dumbest way possible.

58 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:47:44am
59 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:48:24am

re: #49 turn

I didn't recognize the name is all ...

I had to look up SB (Super Bowl). Hey, I'll watch the Broncos, if I'm home and have nothing else to do. I understand the game (run, fall down, run, fall down), and I know the right time to cheer (play close attention to the cheerleaders).

But players names, couches names, sport casters names, hot dog vendors name... I'm not up on those things.

I think I can enjoy a game once in a while without having volumes and volumes of facts and figures in my head.

But, I do own a naked cheerleaders calendar.

60 Peacekeeper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:48:31am

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

OK, second vignette: Just what the hell does he mean by "This is one safety you just don't wanna Jew."

Hmmm?

He said Juke.

61 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:48:33am

Geraldo kept saying "the Jew". I finally figured out he was saying "the Juice".

Do I spend to much time on LGF?

62 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:48:43am

re: #43 doppelganglander

Hey there! How's things?

Hey there back. OK I guess. Economy has me worried, but other than that, I can't complain.

63 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:48:49am

re: #57 Cattt

Personally, I think jailin' the pants is dumb too. When they run from the cops, their pants fall down and trip them. It's as if they're trying to do everything in the dumbest way possible.

Good for them. Easier to catch the dumb fucks.

64 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:49:04am

bbl

65 3 wood  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:49:42am

Pro football players are not generally drafted and developed because of their ability to reason and think clearly. A good example is Donovan McNabb, who is absolutely incapable of reading a blitz. When the corners line up inside the receivers and the strong safety walks up to the line of scrimmage, Stevie Wonder could read the blitz coming, but not McNabb.

But Donovan is a Mensa society candidate compared to Burress.

But Burress takes being stupid to an extreme.

I would not mind seeing a lifetime ban from the NFL for him.

66 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:49:42am

re: #43 doppelganglander

How are you doing? did you have a good time over Thanksgiving?

67 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:49:52am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

I had to look up SB (Super Bowl). Hey, I'll watch the Broncos, if I'm home and have nothing else to do. I understand the game (run, fall down, run, fall down), and I know the right time to cheer (play close attention to the cheerleaders).

But players names, couches names, sport casters names, hot dog vendors name... I'm not up on those things.

I think I can enjoy a game once in a while without having volumes and volumes of facts and figures in my head.

But, I do own a naked cheerleaders calendar.

I don't think I'm going to correct a single spelling error in that past. It's even funnier than I designed it to be.

68 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:49:57am

re: #56 Daisy

I don't think so. He said 'juke' - don't know the derivation - but, that's the word I heard.

Juke - get loose with. More or less.

69 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:50:09am

re: #54 Ben Hur

I always thought it was the *ahem* culturally specific homage to Placido Domingo.

Sort of how the Ebonic speech impediment of Anthony has been mainstreamed as Anfernee.

Why are there only 49 entries into the Miss Ebonics USA Beauty Contest?

No one wanted to be Miss Idaho.

70 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:50:17am

re: #57 Cattt

Personally, I think jailin' the pants is dumb too. When they run from the cops, their pants fall down and trip them. It's as if they're trying to do everything in the dumbest way possible.

A friend is a deputy sheriff. He loves baggy pants/shorts down around the crotch. He arrested one guy by waiting at his house. How did he know? Stupid lost his shorts running away, which included his wallet and DL.

/always keep yer wallet in your shirt pocket - old Army trick I am told

71 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:50:38am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

But, I do own a naked cheerleaders calendar.


Please share.

72 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:50:42am
73 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:51:01am

OK - the other guy - His lawyer is good. I am feeling sorry for the other guy - a patsy, imho. (OJ again)

74 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:51:09am

In football, "juke" means to fake out, to look like you are going to go one way, then go off in another direction.

75 father_of_10  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:51:09am

re: #50 Thanos

I am busting a gut here still. This is almost as good as the famous Julia Childs skit from SNL.

Oh Julia, one of my heros!

76 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:52:09am

re: #68 Cattt

Juke - get loose with. More or less.

Oh, related to Juke Box .. got it. Good word :)

77 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:52:18am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

But, I do own a naked cheerleaders calendar.

Hey, me too. Are some of your pages stuck together too?

/can't believe I posted that

78 father_of_10  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:52:24am

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

I had to look up SB (Super Bowl). Hey, I'll watch the Broncos, if I'm home and have nothing else to do. I understand the game (run, fall down, run, fall down), and I know the right time to cheer (play close attention to the cheerleaders).

But players names, couches names, sport casters names, hot dog vendors name... I'm not up on those things.

I think I can enjoy a game once in a while without having volumes and volumes of facts and figures in my head.

But, I do own a naked cheerleaders calendar.

If they're naked, how do you know they are cheerleaders?

79 ROPMA  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:52:57am

All he needs now are homeboy sights

80 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:53:00am

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

I'd like a few more people to weigh in. Used to be--still is in some enclaves--that bargaining with someone would be referred to as "jewing them down," and being cheated would be characterized as "he jewed me."

If the reference is to "cheating" on having the safety off, he's using the word "jew" in that classic pejorative sense, with a very slight adjustment.

It is, however, possible that you are right--but I am not yet convinced.

"Juke" is also used as a sports term...to juke around someone is to make a quick running move and "fake" them. However, this definition says it means "to cheat".

81 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:53:06am

re: #71 Erik The Red

But, I do own a naked cheerleaders calendar.
Please share.

Ok. Email me your address in S.A, 35 dollars in postage, your passport, and I'll get it out DHL over the weekend.

82 Peacekeeper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:53:08am

re: #69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You BASTARD!

83 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:53:23am

re: #78 father_of_10

If they're naked, how do you know they are cheerleaders?

Pom poms?

84 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:54:22am

Very funny.

OT to Charles -

The RSS feed displayed in the left column (at least for Instapundit) seems to insert question marks for apostrophes and comas. Don't recall it doing that before the server change, and not sure if it is an Instapundit problem (doesn't seem to be the case with the Protein Wisdom feed I see displayed now).

85 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:54:31am

re: #77 turn

From you youth. I hope.

86 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:54:32am

re: #78 father_of_10

If they're naked, how do you know they are cheerleaders?

Like pr0n (so I've heard); put ponytails on a forty year old woman, you have a teenage girl.

87 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:54:43am

re: #78 father_of_10

If they're naked, how do you know they are cheerleaders?

Because each of them have two pom-poms, big pom-poms, smooth, well shaped pom-poms, with very well formed peaks...

88 Desert Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:54:45am

juke
1   /dʒuk/ [jook]
verb, juked, juk⋅ing, noun Football.
–verb (used with object)
1. to make a move intended to deceive (an opponent).
–noun
2. a fake or feint, usually intended to deceive a defensive player.
Origin:
sp. var. of jouk

or

juke 1 also jook (jōōk, jŏŏk) n.

A roadside or rural establishment offering liquor, dancing, and often gambling and prostitution. Also called juke house, juke joint.

intr.v. juked also jooked, juk·ing also jook·ing, jukes also jooks

1. To play dance music, especially in a juke.
2. To dance, especially in a juke or to the music of a jukebox.

89 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:54:52am

re: #28 rawmuse No I wouldn't have concluded differently if he was a republican. I know all about the "free speech" aspects to political fundraising - although why ALL donars, regardless of the amount they give, aren't identified by name and State BEFORE the election doesn't seem to me to be any kind of chill on Free Speech. But Obama is the FIRST candidate from EITHER party in over 20 years to turn down Public Funding and he turned it down after saying he would accept it and John McCain said he would accept Public Funding.
And I still haven't forgotten those phone banks for Obama based in...Gaza.

90 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:55:16am

re: #82 Peacekeeper

You BASTARD!

What'd I do?

91 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:55:33am
92 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:55:41am

re: #79 ROPMA

All he needs now are homeboy sights

This is for real? Where the hell did this firm find their marketing director, a fricking ghetto?

93 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:55:55am

re: #90 fat bastard vegetarian

What'd I do?

It's only a theory, but perhaps you killed Kenny.

94 Eowyn2  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:55:56am

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Thanks, because know Lizards, they would tell me it was real and I would have to spend hours trying to figure that out since I don't even know what he looks like.

is it live or is it memorex

95 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:56:04am

re: #81 Walter L. Newton

Ok. Email me your address in S.A, 35 dollars in postage, your passport, and I'll get it out DHL over the weekend.

Dude do you know how weak the Rand is? Make it $30 and you have a deal.

96 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:57:13am

re: #53 Erik The Red

Link please so i can stay on the floor.

I looked for it on Youtube and could not find it, only a very weak parody of the parody. It involved lots of spurting blood.

97 CEQAttorney  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:57:29am

That's funny.

98 Peacekeeper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:57:34am

re: #90 fat bastard vegetarian

What'd I do?

Told a joke I'm still snickering at. Bastard.


/sarc

99 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:57:38am
100 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:58:27am

That is hysterical. What a maroon.

I am back from lunch with a full belly. Ahhh.

101 kafir lover  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:58:33am

Anyone catch the Hail Mary that OJ just threw at the judge? (no pun intended).
Did you notice the casual way she sipped her tasty beverage after that long rant?

102 Eowyn2  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:58:41am

i'm outta here
got to juke some work

103 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:58:49am
104 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:58:49am

re: #89 realwest

If there are specific campaign law violations extant, with evidence of same, where are the prosecutions? Don't we have a AG on this? What is he doing that is more important?

105 Peacekeeper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:59:01am

keep the BDS coming:

The obligatory bash: CNN's Christiane Amanpour has filed yet another airheaded report (partly carried over from earlier this year) that equates the nipple-ripping, extremity-electrocuting, baby-bashing torture by the late 1970s Khmer Rouge regime with modern-day U.S. waterboarding of detainees at Guantanamo prison. The network heavily promoted her "Scream Bloody Murder" documentary (that aired last night and will several times more), which addresses repeated occurrences of genocide since 1948 when members of the United Nations agreed on a pact to seek the prevention and punishment of such practices. Seems it hasn't done much good, Amanpour asserts.

106 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:59:10am

re: #65 3 wood
Yup, I'd go with the lifetime ban too - he took it into a PUBLIC PLACE where he shot only (fortuantely) himself.

107 tedzilla99  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:59:11am

re: #74 rawmuse

In football, "juke" means to fake out, to look like you are going to go one way, then go off in another direction.

Exactly - Plax is a wide receiver, so if he had the ball he'd want to juke the safety, who would be trying to tackle him. Or try to juke him to get open to receive the pass.

Sounds like some of you lizards need some sports training!

108 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:59:24am

Finally -the judge. (OJ)

109 Desert Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 9:59:48am

re: #87 Walter L. Newton

Wow, what's the deal with that?

Rocky Mountain News may close down?

110 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:00:12am

Quick question:
What does "underwritten" mean? Just heard a radio commercial saying - such and such is underwritten by energy solutions something or other...
It was thrown on at the end of the commercial - sounds like a legal term. Any takers?

111 jcm  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:00:21am

re: #108 Cattt

Finally -the judge. (OJ)

If he asks for OJ's autograph were off to a bad start...

112 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:00:28am

re: #4 turn

Can't tell if that was humor or well intentioned.

re: #92 turn

This is for real? Where the hell did this firm find their marketing director, a fricking ghetto?

Please ship your satire detector back to the manufacturer for repair or replacement.

113 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:00:44am

re: #110 bosforus

It means they paid for it.

114 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:00:53am

re: #110 bosforus

Quick question:
What does "underwritten" mean? Just heard a radio commercial saying - such and such is underwritten by energy solutions something or other...
It was thrown on at the end of the commercial - sounds like a legal term. Any takers?

"paid for by"

115 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:01:02am

re: #105 Peacekeeper

I lost what little respect that I had for her when she did her in depth series on the M.E

116 tedzilla99  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:01:16am

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

OK; that gives the derivation a solid setting, in the proper context.

I'm not entirely convinced that the football "juke" term is not derived from the old "jew" term, but until I find further evidence of this please return to your scheduled programming.

Please tell me you're not serious - it's derived from dancing. Juke box, juke joint, etc. etc.

117 Desert Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:01:31am

re: #105 Peacekeeper

keep the BDS coming:

The obligatory bash: CNN's Christiane Amanpour has filed yet another airheaded report (partly carried over from earlier this year) that equates the nipple-ripping, extremity-electrocuting, baby-bashing torture by the late 1970s Khmer Rouge regime with modern-day U.S. waterboarding of detainees at Guantanamo prison. The network heavily promoted her "Scream Bloody Murder" documentary (that aired last night and will several times more), which addresses repeated occurrences of genocide since 1948 when members of the United Nations agreed on a pact to seek the prevention and punishment of such practices. Seems it hasn't done much good, Amanpour asserts.

I submit to you that watching Christiane Amanpour is a form of torture worse than waterboarding or nipple ripping.

118 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:01:33am

re: #110 bosforus

Quick question:
What does "underwritten" mean? Just heard a radio commercial saying - such and such is underwritten by energy solutions something or other...
It was thrown on at the end of the commercial - sounds like a legal term. Any takers?

Insurance term, usually - to assume liability for something.

119 jacksontn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:01:42am

MSNBC ...classy producers ...wonder if they will be fined ...

"Don't f*ck with me!"


via Rusty ...

120 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:02:06am

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey
Hey buzz, I know what you're saying, but I heard him say "juke" twice - the first time I played it and then again when I played it for Mom - she actually asked me what he meant by "Juke" and I said (guessing) "fooling around".

121 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:02:11am
122 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:02:16am

RoFL...that's hilarious.

123 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:02:54am

re: #113 rawmuse

re: #114 OldLineTexan

re: #118 Cattt

Ah, just as I suspected. Thank you!

124 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:03:11am

re: #121 Iron Fist

Neat concept weapon. Someone posted a link to it a couple of nights ago. If they can make one if .410, why can't the do the same basic thing in 20ga? It'd need a vertical foregrip, and the recoil might be punishing, but it'd sure make me drop a load in my pants if you pulled the SOB on me!

I think the judge is cool, too, but I don't think she'd fit in a holster. :D

125 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:03:25am

re: #109 Desert Dog

Wow, what's the deal with that?
Rocky Mountain News may close down?

Liberals! Really nothing any more different than most legacy forms of the media. It's not working anymore. The RMN is very conservative, the Denver Post is the liberal paper of record, they both came close to shutting down a number of years ago, there was a little financial jiggering and now they are both owned by a joint news agency that managers them, and it's still not working.

Bye, bye Miss American Pie...

126 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:03:26am

re: #112 Son of the Black Dog

Please ship your satire detector back to the manufacturer for repair or replacement.

Ok, but I'll have to look for the shipping address.

Seriously I'm a little gullible today it seems.

127 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:04:14am

Getting your stuff back with a gun - "There's no self help." (The judge)

128 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:04:18am
129 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:04:19am

re: #108 Cattt

Finally -the judge. (OJ)

Here come the judge!

130 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:04:20am

re: #126 turn

Ok, but I'll have to look for the shipping address.

Seriously I'm a little gullible today it seems.

Can I interest you in a gaydar?

131 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:04:26am

re: #66 bellamags

How are you doing? did you have a good time over Thanksgiving?

It was fun but exhausting. My husband is the youngest of 7, and I'm one of 4, so visiting took up a lot of time. There's no way anyone can host everybody. How about you?

132 abolitionist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:05:19am

Gun Safety Lesson
"Ok, I'm the only one in this room professional enough..."

133 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:05:23am
134 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:05:25am

I think the judge is about ready to lower the boom on the boob OJ.

135 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:05:33am

Off to the shower, BBIAW, getting ready for a weekend of Xmas cheer and lemming hoards of theatre patrons.

136 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:05:42am

re: #115 Erik The Red

I lost what little respect that I had for her when she did her in depth series on the M.E

More like out of her depth.

137 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:05:52am

re: #131 doppelganglander

It was fun but exhausting. My husband is the youngest of 7, and I'm one of 4, so visiting took up a lot of time. There's no way anyone can host everybody. How about you?

Ended up taking my dad to the airport at 1pm on Thanksgiving day. I cooked a big breakfast for us, pancakes, eggs, bacon, all of it. Then I slept the rest of the day. It was great.

138 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:05:53am

re: #107 tedzilla99

Exactly - Plax is a wide receiver, so if he had the ball he'd want to juke the safety, who would be trying to tackle him. Or try to juke him to get open to receive the pass.

Sounds like some of you lizards need some sports training!

Gawd.

We call it 'selling (the opponent) a dummy' - and then one jinks. Not many people can jink really well. As a famous player once said 'you can teach them how to jink, but you can't teach them when to jink'.

What with the, erm, mentally differently abilities of some of those players mentioned above, i can now understand why rugby hasn't really taken off in your nick of the woods ...

(No offense!)

139 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:06:12am

re: #134 turn

I think the judge is about ready to lower the boom on the boob OJ.

Oh, I think so too.

140 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:06:20am

re: #128 buzzsawmonkey

You are going to have to do some very, very fancy linguistic dancing to explain how musical terms like "juke joint" or "juke box" evolved into a word for a sports fakeout. A hell of a lot more dancing than is necessary to point out that the use of "jew" as a synonym for cheating or fakery sounds remarkably like the football cheating or fakery term "juke."

From #88 Desert Dog's post: 2. a fake or feint, usually intended to deceive a defensive player.
Origin:
sp. var. of jouk

Is that fancy enough for you?

141 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:06:48am

re: #132 abolitionist

Wait a minute, THAT guy is a cop?

142 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:06:56am

re: #119 jacksontn

LOL!

Somewhere a newsroom video producer is looking for a new job today!

143 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:07:17am

Y'all's definitions of juke are sooo white boy.

144 Desert Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:07:35am

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

Same here in AZ. When I first arrived here from Denver in the late 80's the Arizona Republic was probably one of the most conservative papers in the USA. In the mid 90's Gannett bought it out (from Dan Quayles family). Since then, it's been on a downward left death spiral. The editorial board now makes the NYT look like Heritage Foundation. Yet, they wonder why the number of readers keep dropping...

145 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:07:53am
146 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:09am

re: #128 buzzsawmonkey

I am going to have to disagree with you on that one. It's a term from the South, according to Wiki (I know, I know) it's a Gullah derivative.

Juke = wicked
Juke joint = dancing (also wicked)
Dancing around something (cheating/feinting) = juke/juking

Much easier than proving a verbal shift from "jew" to "juke".

I think we have a coincidence here.

147 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:09am

re: #105 Peacekeeper

keep the BDS coming:

The obligatory bash: CNN's Christiane Amanpour has filed yet another airheaded report (partly carried over from earlier this year) that equates the nipple-ripping, extremity-electrocuting, baby-bashing torture by the late 1970s Khmer Rouge regime with modern-day U.S. waterboarding of detainees at Guantanamo prison. The network heavily promoted her "Scream Bloody Murder" documentary (that aired last night and will several times more), which addresses repeated occurrences of genocide since 1948 when members of the United Nations agreed on a pact to seek the prevention and punishment of such practices. Seems it hasn't done much good, Amanpour asserts.

Watching Christiane Ameanwhore qualifies as torture, IMO.

148 jcm  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:11am

re: #141 rawmuse

Wait a minute, THAT guy is a cop?

A little retraining at the very least...

149 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:25am

re: #130 bosforus

Gay radar detector, no thanks I already have one. Ha!

150 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:26am

re: #138 yma o hyd

Gawd.

We call it 'selling (the opponent) a dummy' - and then one jinks. Not many people can jink really well. As a famous player once said 'you can teach them how to jink, but you can't teach them when to jink'.

What with the, erm, mentally differently abilities of some of those players mentioned above, i can now understand why rugby hasn't really taken off in your nick of the woods ...

(No offense!)

"Jinks" is that some sort of combined slur of Jews and Chinese? Just kidding.

151 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:47am

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Damn.
I always get flak for naming my car, refrigerator, and garbage disposal.
I was hoping I could point to someone even more deranged who names their couch.

152 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:50am

re: #126 turn

Ok, but I'll have to look for the shipping address.

Seriously I'm a little gullible today it seems.

Yeah, getting burned twice in one thread. Gotta set some kind of record. :)

153 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:08:54am

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

Off to the shower, BBIAW, getting ready for a weekend of Xmas cheer and lemming hoards of theatre patrons.

Walter is hoarding the lemming hordes!

Ma! Make him share!

/

154 abolitionist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:09:00am

Longer version: A Lesson in Gun Safety

155 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:09:04am

re: #104 rawmuse
The FEC announced AFTER THE ELECTION(sorry I can't find my link) that they were not going to be looking into alleged campaign violation laws of Obama's Campaign but were going to be looking into allegations concerning the alleged $150,000 that McCain gave to Palin for her wardrobe.
The problem ALWAYS is that the FEC NEVER investigates campaign contributions until after the election is over - and so now what would they do if they found fraudulent contributions to Obama? Strip him of his victory? Have a "do over" of the election?

156 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:09:11am

re: #139 Cattt

Oh, I think so too.


Here it comes!

157 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:09:15am

re: #143 Cattt

Y'all's definitions of juke are sooo white boy.

of course there is "juke joint" which is more from the jazz and blues world, as a matter of fact, that is the more common application.

158 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:09:36am

Here we go on the OJ sentencing . . .

159 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:09:47am

After hearing the Judge for OJ.. She seems pretty tough..
here come the wacking stick

160 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:10:03am

re: #155 realwest

Heh. You said "wardrobe" and "strip". This could be interesting.

161 rw in san diego  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:10:05am

re: #89 realwest

Realwest, I hadn't heard about the phone banks in Gaza. Do you have a link for that?

162 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:10:10am

re: #137 bellamags

Ended up taking my dad to the airport at 1pm on Thanksgiving day. I cooked a big breakfast for us, pancakes, eggs, bacon, all of it. Then I slept the rest of the day. It was great.

Can I trade with you next year?

163 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:10:18am

re: #159 HoosierHoops

After hearing the Judge for OJ.. She seems pretty tough..
here come the wacking stick

In solidarity w/Mandy :)

164 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:10:23am

re: #139 Cattt

Oh, I think so too.


She is saying this isn't payback, surrre! Ha

165 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:10:34am

OJ is going to get 18 yrs, 12 minimum.

166 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:11:13am

re: #165 VegasRick

OJ is going to get 18 yrs, 12 minimum.

Wow, those poor kids. Not that they haven't already been traumatized, but sheesh.

167 abolitionist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:11:19am

re: #141 rawmuse

Wait a minute, THAT guy is a cop?

DEA, or was.

168 jcm  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:11:35am

re: #138 yma o hyd

Gawd.

We call it 'selling (the opponent) a dummy' - and then one jinks. Not many people can jink really well. As a famous player once said 'you can teach them how to jink, but you can't teach them when to jink'.

What with the, erm, mentally differently abilities of some of those players mentioned above, i can now understand why rugby hasn't really taken off in your nick of the woods ...

(No offense!)

Haines and Haynes CB and Safety for Oakland back in the '80s, were among the best defensive backfielders at the time. Of my favorite receiver Steve Largent they said, "covering Largent is like trying to cover smoke."

169 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:11:39am

re: #146 OldLineTexan

I am going to have to disagree with you on that one. It's a term from the South, according to Wiki (I know, I know) it's a Gullah derivative.

Juke = wicked
Juke joint = dancing (also wicked)
Dancing around something (cheating/feinting) = juke/juking

Much easier than proving a verbal shift from "jew" to "juke".

I think we have a coincidence here.

This all reminds me of the bit in Annie Hall, where Woody Allen's character is sure a guy is anti-Semitic because he answered "did jew?" (e.g., did you?) to something. Working title for Annie Hall - It Had to Be Jew.

170 Peacekeeper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:12:16am

re: #121 Iron Fist

Neat concept weapon. Someone posted a link to it a couple of nights ago. If they can make one if .410, why can't the do the same basic thing in 20ga? It'd need a vertical foregrip, and the recoil might be punishing, but it'd sure make me drop a load in my pants if you pulled the SOB on me!

Would that be juking and duking?

171 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:12:41am

re: #155 realwest

Yes, I understand all that. I guess I just want to see you move forward with your life, rather than whizzing in the wind with all these things. Nothing will come of any of it.

We are in for a 4 year torrent of excrement issuing from the fire hose of Liberalism.

172 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:12:52am

re: #150 Daisy

"Jinks" is that some sort of combined slur of Jews and Chinese? Just kidding.

Only if it comes out of the mouth of an English skinhead.
(Also joking!)

173 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:12:56am

re: #165 VegasRick

OJ is going to get 18 yrs, 12 minimum.

Well, there does seem to be justice in the world, even if it works mysteriously and slowly.

174 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:13:12am

Hey, OJ. Look at the bright side. You will have a much better chance of finding Nichole and Ron's murderer in a prison, than on a golf course.

175 tedzilla99  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:13:15am

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not arguing with you. I'm now merely curious as to where the term in this context comes from. "Juke joint" doesn't cut it as an explanation, at least not without some better bridge information.

You're just sitting there wanting to be offended. It's dumb. Have you ever seen a football game? The term comes from the quick stutter steps, spin moves, etc. to get past a guy standing right in front of you. That term has been around since I've been watching/playing sports - 30+ years.

176 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:13:35am

re: #166 OldLineTexan

Wow, those poor kids. Not that they haven't already been traumatized, but sheesh.

Those kids have been through Hell. However, can you image your father murdering your mother and then getting custody of you?! I recall that the daughter called 911 on her father - nothing happened.

177 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:13:37am

That was hilarious!

178 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:13:38am

re: #173 Honorary Yooper

Well, there does seem to be justice in the world, even if it works mysteriously and slowly.

OJ hasn't actually been sentenced yet. She's still reading CJ's punishment.

179 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:13:45am

re: #77 turn

But, I do own a naked cheerleaders calendar.

Hey, me too. Are some of your pages stuck together too?

/can't believe I posted that

I can't either...

180 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:14:16am

That's it for CJ. Here comes OJ's sentence!

181 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:14:21am

re: #165 VegasRick

OJ is going to get 18 yrs, 12 minimum.

We'll find out in a few, not done yet. Here we go

182 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:14:28am

re: #151 wolfie

Damn.
I always get flak for naming my car, refrigerator, and garbage disposal.
I was hoping I could point to someone even more deranged who names their couch.

Heh... we have a 15 passenger van named "Pearl" because we happened to buy it on our 30th wedding anniversary (not as a present). And the GPS system in it that talks to us is named "HAL" for the computer in 2001 A Space Oddessy.

183 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:15:16am

c'mon judge.

184 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:15:26am

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey
OK - here's the best I can do: "Juke Joints'" are where people danced or "juked" - Wide Receivers (of which Plaxico WAS one) frequently try to make defenders miss them when the defender tries to tackle them by shifting around - faking left, going right - "juking" is what it's called in football which is where Plaxico USED to make his living.

185 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:15:40am

OT, 105 singer says Hitler was really a "nice guy".

186 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:16:04am

re: #183 fat bastard vegetarian

c'mon judge.

channel?

187 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:16:06am

re: #181 turn

We'll find out in a few, not done yet. Here we go


Do you have a calculator?

188 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:16:07am

105 years old singer.
PIMF!

189 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:16:22am

Am I hearing 15 years? This concurrent stuff is confusing me.

190 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:17:00am

Rush is talking about the Democrat's plan to tax cow/hog farts. The proposal (in part): Farms w/over 50 cows/cattle will be taxed ($175?) per cow.

And this after all the Sundance award winning sobbing movies exploiting farmers. The worm has turned - now they hate farmers.

191 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:17:14am

re: #188 rawmuse

105 years old singer.
PIMF!

LOL
I immediately scroll to comment 105 looking for that...:)
Weird story

192 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:17:32am

15 years - parole after five years was the highest sentence (OJ)
Plus some of the lesser charges were consecutive to that.

193 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:17:35am

re: #187 VegasRick

Do you have a calculator?

What did he reaqlly get Rick?

194 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:18:23am

Nordburg had a bad bad bad day.

195 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:18:37am

Both OJ and CJ will serve 16 years, eligible for parole after 5 years.

196 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:18:45am

re: #161 rw in san diego
NO - but I saw a photo of it I think out here on LGF.

197 CIA Reject  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:18:58am

re: #190 Daisy

Rush is talking about the Democrat's plan to tax cow/hog farts. The proposal (in part): Farms w/over 50 cows/cattle will be taxed ($175?) per cow...

And they'll have the nerve to act surprised when milk gets to be $10 a gallon.

Idiots...

198 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:19:12am

re: #195 gmsc

Both OJ and CJ will serve 16 years, eligible for parole after 5 years.

My 16 years is the 15 years concurrent sentences, plus the 1 yeat concurrent sentence.

199 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:19:13am

Highest charge was because there was a gun. I think with the lesser charges consecutive, he has 16 years, with 5 years before the possibility of probation.

200 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:19:39am

re: #197 CIA Reject

And they'll have the nerve to act surprised when milk gets to be $10 a gallon.

What about the children?

201 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:19:41am

re: #192 Cattt

15 years - parole after five years was the highest sentence (OJ)
Plus some of the lesser charges were consecutive to that.

Fox is saying 16 total. He's 61 years old. Let's hope he serves the max.

202 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:19:56am

re: #192 Cattt

15 years - parole after five years was the highest sentence (OJ)
Plus some of the lesser charges were consecutive to that.

If the judge runs the sentences consecutive O.J. will never take another breath as a free man.

203 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:19:59am

re: #200 fat bastard vegetarian

What about the children?

They fart too. Tax 'em.

204 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:20:05am

Merry Christmas, OJ. Here's to hoping you get your stocking stuffed for the next 16.

205 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:20:11am

re: #168 jcm

Haines and Haynes CB and Safety for Oakland back in the '80s, were among the best defensive backfielders at the time. Of my favorite receiver Steve Largent they said, "covering Largent is like trying to cover smoke."

He must've had some Welsh ancestry then!

'Deceptive' and 'elusive' are the words used for one of our centres.

206 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:20:12am

re: #165 VegasRick

OJ is going to get 18 yrs, 12 minimum.

I hope you didn't bet on that :.)

I guess I'm good with 15 maximum but I hope he never makes parole.

207 Desert Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:20:18am

OJ, OJ, OJ, where did we go wrong? You should have kept yourself on the golf course looking for the "real killers". Now, you can spend some quality time with some "fellow killers".

208 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:20:27am

re: #203 OldLineTexan

Mine don't. They're special.

209 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:20:43am

re: #195 gmsc

Both OJ and CJ will serve 16 years, eligible for parole after 5 years.


16 or 15? Shit now I'm really confused.

210 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:21:13am

re: #208 fat bastard vegetarian

Mine don't. They're special.

They must be special, as well as rather balloon-like.

/

211 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:21:35am

Work. pffft!

212 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:21:35am
213 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:21:54am

re: #209 turn

16 or 15? Shit now I'm really confused.

1 year for conspiracy charges, 15 for assault with deadly weapon charges.

214 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:21:59am

re: #171 rawmuse
Thank you for your concern.
I just think that the whole idea of equal footing in financing of elections is dead; no one would ever be stupid enough to take public funding again - or to beleive a proven liar when he says he's gonna take public financing and then reneges on his promise.

215 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:22:00am

re: #211 fat bastard vegetarian

Work. pffft!

That'll be $3.50.

216 jcm  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:22:01am

Ohhh! Now I'm gonna' get some juice!

/Bubba

217 Muadib  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:22:25am

Firearms training saves lives.
Safeties kill.

218 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:22:37am

So sometimes..just sometimes, there is justice in this world.
It's not often we ever get to see or know about justice.
Boy.. I love watching big screen High def. Live Justice brought by Fox.
I now pray to God that the Goldman family and all those people effected by a past crime..That they now have closure and the healing can now begin.

219 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:22:39am

re: #213 gmsc

What about the kidnapping charge?

220 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:22:50am

re: #210 OldLineTexan

The were in this video.

221 3 wood  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:22:53am

re: #120 realwest

"Juke" and I said (guessing) "fooling around".

"Juke" means to fake out.

222 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:23:23am

re: #215 OldLineTexan

You can't have my tree fiddy!

223 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:23:25am

re: #128 buzzsawmonkey

Acc to Harpers-Collins dictionary of American slang, it does indeed come from juke box, juke joint, etc. The verb "to juke" originally meant to go bar-hopping at dance places, then later came to mean to be a smooth player..being cool, having good dance moves, but avoiding trouble and predatory women...to finesse a tricky situation. The sports term combines the the dance and the avoidance. Its 1st documented sports use was in baseball in the early 60's in ref to pitchers "juking" a good hitter in a tough situation, but it is most commonly used today in football.
Thus spake Harper-Collins.

224 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:23:42am

re: #220 fat bastard vegetarian

poop. They.

225 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:24:14am

"Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small;
Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all."

226 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:24:20am
227 GordonShumway  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:24:26am

re: #110 bosforus

Quick question:
What does "underwritten" mean? Just heard a radio commercial saying - such and such is underwritten by energy solutions something or other...
It was thrown on at the end of the commercial - sounds like a legal term. Any takers?

Its the public radio term for advertising (since they cannot sell adverstising). The advertiser is called an underwriter. When the FCC relaxed the rulse on what a public radio (or TV) advertiser underwriter could say in the announcement, it became known as "enhanced underwriting."

linky

228 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:25:17am

re: #222 fat bastard vegetarian

You can't have my tree fiddy!

Dammit, monstah, leave me alone!

229 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:25:30am

re: #218 HoosierHoops

Sorry but I do not view this as justice,he quite possibly be out before he turns 70.

230 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:26:01am

re: #213 gmsc

1 year for conspiracy charges, 15 for assault with deadly weapon charges.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I'm going to have to go refresh my memory on that conspiracy charge. I think they had him on tape trying to coach a witness or some such thing.

231 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:26:40am

Lawyer in Calif. points out - parole possible after six years, because of the one-year concurrent sentence.

232 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:26:45am
233 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:27:08am
234 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:27:11am

re: #229 bulwrk

Sorry but I do not view this as justice,he quite possibly be out before he turns 70.

No, it's not justice. But in this case the closest thing to it brings a bit of happiness.

235 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:28:06am

re: #229 bulwrk

Sorry but I do not view this as justice,he quite possibly be out before he turns 70.

If he had been convicted back then he would be getting out in 6 years.
It's not perfect...but it beats a Tee time for him

236 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:28:16am

Here's the first news story on the OJ sentencing: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

237 GordonShumway  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:28:27am

re: #175 tedzilla99

You're just sitting there wanting to be offended. It's dumb. Have you ever seen a football game? The term comes from the quick stutter steps, spin moves, etc. to get past a guy standing right in front of you. That term has been around since I've been watching/playing sports - 30+ years.

Fighter pilots have been jinking and juking longer than 30 years. I suspect that usage predates footbal usage. As in footbal, refers to defensive moves made to fake out the opponent.

238 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:28:43am

re: #212 Iron Fist
Hell the Democrats OWN the system now.

239 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:28:46am

re: #234 bosforus

No, it's not justice. But in this case the closest thing to it brings a bit of happiness.


Maybe now he'll have time to find 'the real killers'.

240 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:29:35am

re: #234 bosforus

Hopefully he gets hold of some bad prison food.

241 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:29:46am

re: #236 gmsc

Here's the first news story on the OJ sentencing: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Am I missing something or is that caption incorrect?

OJ Simpson reacts as he is found guilty of kidnapping and armed robbery in October. Photograph: Daniel Gluskoter/AP

He was wearing a jump suit when the sentences were read.

242 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:30:02am

re: #197 CIA Reject

And they'll have the nerve to act surprised when milk gets to be $10 a gallon.

Idiots...

Or outraged when we start getting our food from China.

243 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:30:19am

re: #237 GordonShumway

Fighter pilots have been jinking and juking longer than 30 years. I suspect that usage predates footbal usage. As in footbal, refers to defensive moves made to fake out the opponent.

Same with Basketball players...and they are the best in juk'n
/and shoot'n too

244 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:30:20am

re: #236 gmsc

Here's the first news story on the OJ sentencing: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Oh, never mind. Brain fart. Copious errors on my part.

245 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:30:47am

re: #241 bosforus

Yes, the judge refused to let him appear in street clothes.

246 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:31:06am

re: #214 realwest

Supreme irony. Public financing was the darling cause of the Left, and now their beloved Leader has killed it!
Do the lefties fret about all this? No.
They have no fixed principles.

247 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:31:07am

re: #153 OldLineTexan

Walter is hoarding the lemming hordes!
Ma! Make him share!/

I don't even know why I said "lemming hordes." Let's just say that at this time of year, even at the theatre, there are people who act like they did in that Long Island Walmart incident.

We have a lot of fine patrons, but we also have our fair share of people who seem to loose there manners in public around this time of year.

And it ain't pretty.

248 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:31:18am

Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go.

249 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:31:21am

OT : VDH makes compelling points today -

Back to the Old 9/11 World
Now Obama gets to deal with Islamic terror, and has no Bush to blame.

Especially insightful point -


Fourth, the problem of Pakistan and the Islamist terrorism that so frequently emanates from its soil will now be President-Elect Obama’s to deal with. He will have to decide whether George W. Bush’s anti-terrorism architecture shredded the Constitution and should be repealed, or helped to keep us safe from attack for seven years, and thus should be maintained, if not strengthened.

Obama once advocated open intrusions into Pakistan in hot pursuit of terrorists, and will have to adjudicate whether such actions will more likely enrage nuclear Pakistan or finally eliminate the followers of Osama bin Laden. At the same time, Obama also must ponder whether he should continue our subsidized “alliance” with Pakistan.

Just as I didn’t envy George W. Bush’s lose/lose dilemma in dealing with Pakistan and global Islamic terrorism, so too I can only sympathize with President-Elect Obama, who faces the same dismal choices.

The more things CHANGE, ...

250 GordonShumway  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:31:28am

"Enemy MiGs juke, jive, and jink all over the screen, which makes the game challenging because there's only so much precision one can expect from a four-direction D-pad..."

[Link: archive.gamespy.com...]

251 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:31:31am

re: #233 buzzsawmonkey

Buzzsaw, I know you're interested in language usage .. this looks interesting: [Link: www.oberlin.edu...]

252 CIA Reject  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:32:25am

re: #246 wolfie

Supreme irony. Public financing was the darling cause of the Left, and now their beloved Leader has killed it!
Do the lefties fret about all this? No.
They have no fixed principles.

Actually they have only one fixed principle: remain in power!

253 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:32:42am
254 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:32:43am
255 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:33:37am

re: #236 gmsc

Here's the first news story on the OJ sentencing: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

I love how he "apologizes" by blaming others. He should be a Democratic Senator.

256 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:33:46am

From FOX News:

O.J. Simpson was sentenced Friday to at least 6 years in prison for armed robbery and kidnapping in a failed attempt to recover sports memorabilia from two collectibles peddlers.

He could serve up to 16 years behind bars, but there will be the possibility of parole after five years plus time served for a total of six years, Judge Jackie Glass said.

257 pat  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:34:03am

McCain was destroyed by his own petard. Campaign finance reform. Doesn't work when one side own the press , eh John?

258 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:34:29am

re: #254 Iron Fist

Ugh, you just reminded me of those people who hang weights from their testicles.

259 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:35:20am

re: #257 pat

McCain was destroyed by his own petard. Campaign finance reform. Doesn't work when one side own the press , eh John?

He thought he had the press covered. Naive.

260 GordonShumway  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:35:29am

re: #258 bosforus

Ugh, you just reminded me of those people who hang weights from their testicles.

mine can bench press 200#

261 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:35:36am

re: #258 bosforus

Ugh, you just reminded me of those people who hang weights from their testicles.

You know there is a mad dash amongst lizards looking for images right now.

262 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:36:06am

re: #254 Iron Fist
Actually I think they really thought that Republicans were rich not Democrats.
If you can find it, there's a website that lists the net worth of the members of Congress and that spokesperson for the poor and downtrodden, Nancy Pelosi (D-Stupid) has a net worth in excess of $50,000,000.00
Then of course there are the Kennedys and the Kerry's and...well, you get the idea.

263 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:37:07am

Can anyone listening to Fox tell what the crazy people are shouting? It sounds vaguely menacing and, since they're shouting down Mr. Goldman, probably pro-OJ.

264 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:37:20am

I've heard any thing like the goldman interview..people yelling..

265 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:37:38am

re: #261 Ford_Prefect

You know there is a mad dash amongst lizards looking for images right now.

Do a search for "Mr. Lift-o"

266 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:37:40am
267 Desert Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:37:55am

re: #261 Ford_Prefect

You know there is a mad dash amongst lizards looking for images right now.

No weighted testicles, but here's a pathetic asshole.

268 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:38:06am

Ron Goldman's family speaking.

Ron Goldman's face is still clear in my memory from almost 15 years ago. I felt as if I'd lost him too.

I am happy for them - the arrogant SOB is going to prison.

269 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:38:16am

re: #263 doppelganglander

Can anyone listening to Fox tell what the crazy people are shouting? It sounds vaguely menacing and, since they're shouting down Mr. Goldman, probably pro-OJ.

Can Obama pardon him on Jan 21st?

270 debutaunt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:39:00am

re: #9 turn

OT Anybody got a link to live video of the OJ sentencing?

O who?

271 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:39:30am

re: #257 pat
"Campaign finance reform. Doesn't work when one side doesn't play by the rules own the press , eh John?"
Even with the MSM in the tank for Obama, if they'd been on equal footing, financially, who knows how the election might have turned out? I mean Obama bought a one half hour informercial on 7 network/cable TV stations on the same night!

272 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:39:30am

re: #251 Daisy

Bless you! I have been sitting here wondering about the original etymology of JUKE!
I vote for the Scottish derivation, rather than the African, myself. It's closer in meaning and early spellings of the word were jouk.
I know the word was used in Appalachia, at least in the early 20th century, which hints at a non-African source.

273 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:39:57am

re: #260 GordonShumway

mine can bench press 200#

Do you have a hard time finding a spotter?

274 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:40:03am

re: #227 GordonShumway

Very interesting. Thank you for the info.

275 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:40:16am

re: #263 doppelganglander

Can anyone listening to Fox tell what the crazy people are shouting? It sounds vaguely menacing and, since they're shouting down Mr. Goldman, probably pro-OJ.

Not a word. They sound like they're yelling "bwa bwa uggugg uugg!"

276 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:40:40am

re: #275 Cattt

Not a word. They sound like they're yelling "bwa bwa uggugg uugg!"

RACIST!

277 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:40:45am

re: #265 rawmuse

Do a search for "Mr. Lift-o"

Uh, no thanks.

278 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:40:49am

re: #263 doppelganglander

Can anyone listening to Fox tell what the crazy people are shouting? It sounds vaguely menacing and, since they're shouting down Mr. Goldman, probably pro-OJ.

Crazy people? With screwed up values? Who can't tell fact from fantasy? In America?

Can't be.

/

279 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:41:07am

re: #266 buzzsawmonkey

You are going to get me fired.

280 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:42:02am

re: #266 buzzsawmonkey

Oh lord,you out did yourself with that one.

281 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:43:00am

re: #263 doppelganglander

Can anyone listening to Fox tell what the crazy people are shouting? It sounds vaguely menacing and, since they're shouting down Mr. Goldman, probably pro-OJ.

Probably something like, "You can't sentence black people to jail for crimes which they've been legally convicted! That's racist!"

282 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:43:49am

I wonder if people like Sharpton and Jackon will try and turn this OJ sentencing into a hot botton race issue. It just occured to me that Obama could issue OJ a pardon to appease them if they do.

283 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:43:51am

re: #276 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

RACIST!

Uggh bwa bwa ugg! /

284 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:44:24am

re: #266 buzzsawmonkey

I understand that they are to be honored by the new Sack-did-you-weigh-'em dollar coin.

You know, we need a phallocentric dollar coin to offset the gynocentric dollar coin we now have.

285 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:44:33am

re: #282 turn

I wonder if people like Sharpton and Jackon will try and turn this OJ sentencing into a hot botton race issue. It just occured to me that Obama could issue OJ a pardon to appease them if they do.

No way. No one wants to save OJ.

286 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:45:31am

re: #269 Walter L. Newton

Can Obama pardon him on Jan 21st?

No. Presidents can only pardon or commute federal sentences, not state crimes.

287 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:45:38am

Zombie, are you there? It's time for an Inflated Scrotum Man update!

288 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:45:54am

re: #281 gmsc
Huh. I thought I heard 'em saying "Obama must grant pardon" but the sound quality wasn't all that good!

289 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:46:04am

re: #270 debutaunt

O who?

O as in bend O'vr succa now

290 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:46:23am

re: #284 karmic_inquisitor

Speaking of dollar coins, the only place I can seem to get them is at the post office vending machine, where they are issued as change from a ten or twenty.

Why do I need them? Because they will purchase 20 minutes at a downtown SF parking meter.

291 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:46:37am

The recounting is done (with one exception)

Except for 133 missing ballots from Minneapolis, the recounting of ballots from the U.S. Senate race is over.

At 11:29 a.m., Wright County maintenance worker Allen Buskey pushed a cart with 10 boxes of ballots into Room 217 at the county government center in Buffalo and locked up the last of the 2.9 million ballots recounted since Nov. 19.

"We're done," said state elections director Gary Poser, after putting stickers on the 21st challenged ballot from the Wright County town of Montrose.

/Norm still up 238, let the shenanigans begin

292 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:46:57am

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

OK, second vignette: Just what the hell does he mean by "This is one safety you just don't wanna Jew."

Hmmm?

juke... don't want to juke...

293 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:47:02am

re: #263 doppelganglander

Can anyone listening to Fox tell what the crazy people are shouting? It sounds vaguely menacing and, since they're shouting down Mr. Goldman, probably pro-OJ.

"Hope! Change!" Or are the crazy people shouting different things now that the election is over?

294 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:47:16am

re: #290 rawmuse
20 minutes for a buck?! Are you serious?!

295 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:47:35am

re: #294 realwest

20 minutes for a buck?! Are you serious?!

Believe it.

296 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:47:41am

re: #290 rawmuse

Speaking of dollar coins, the only place I can seem to get them is at the post office vending machine, where they are issued as change from a ten or twenty.

Why do I need them? Because they will purchase 20 minutes at a downtown SF parking meter.

20 minutes? That is it? Do they have holidays?

297 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:48:13am

re: #285 Cattt

No way. No one wants to save OJ.

I hope you're right, you say that with such conviction. We'll have to wait and see.

298 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:48:15am

re: #290 rawmuse

Speaking of dollar coins, the only place I can seem to get them is at the post office vending machine, where they are issued as change from a ten or twenty.

Why do I need them? Because they will purchase 20 minutes at a downtown SF parking meter.

You ever go to Tommy's Joint in the City? Love that place...

299 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:48:45am

re: #294 realwest

20 minutes for a buck?! Are you serious?!

You should see the rates they charge outside of Vegas. Wait, that's not for parking. Never mind.

300 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:48:54am

re: #270 debutaunt

O who?

Prisoner #635882

301 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:49:02am

re: #296 karmic_inquisitor

20 minutes? That is it? Do they have holidays?

Damn few. The ones at the Embarcadero are enforced until 9pm, even on Sundays.

302 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:49:21am

re: #295 rawmuse

Believe it.

Hell, when I lived in NYC, you got an hour for a dime.

303 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:49:38am

re: #298 HoosierHoops

You ever go to Tommy's Joint in the City? Love that place...

Too many tourists for me. I have my fave local hangs.

304 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:49:57am

re: #302 Walter L. Newton

Hell, when I lived in NYC, you got an hour for a dime.

You found parking in NYC?

305 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:50:11am

re: #272 wolfie

wolfie, I think it's probably a combo of French, Scottish and African a la Gullah/Creole. Keep in mind the white Arcadians from Canada and the black folks from Louisianan met on the same path (escaping different places) fell in love and voila - Cajuns - for those wide enough to go back down South, that is :)

306 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:50:28am

re: #304 HoosierHoops

You found parking in NYC?

No one drives in NY. The traffic is terrible.

307 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:50:35am

re: #295 rawmuse
Holy crap! I guess SF REALLY doesn't want folks driving or at least parking their cars!

308 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:51:36am

re: #304 HoosierHoops

You found parking in NYC?

Yea, in 1963.

309 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:52:03am

re: #302 Walter L. Newton
"in NYC, you got an hour for a dime" - uh, it's been awhile, hasn't it Walter?!? LOL!

310 mean Gene  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:52:16am

re: #291 Killian Bundy

The recounting is done (with one exception)

/Norm still up 238, let the shenanigans begin

The ''lost'' ballots only number 133 not enough to give Franken a win even if he got all of those votes!
So what can Franken do?
Cheat.
He wants a forensics team to examine the discarded ballots for ''intent.''

311 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:52:31am

re: #308 Walter L. Newton

Yea, in 1963.

Can you even park in NYFC?

312 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:52:34am

re: #301 rawmuse

Damn few. The ones at the Embarcadero are enforced until 9pm, even on Sundays.

I remember back in the 80s I'd park at the embarcadero to go clubbing. It must have been free then (or dirt cheap) because I was a student and needed to save the cash for drinks.

It would be interesting to know if those holidays are secular in PC San Francisco. I could see a whole grievance festival over free parking on Christmas but not Eid.

313 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:52:46am

re: #305 Daisy

wolfie, I think it's probably a combo of French, Scottish and African a la Gullah/Creole. Keep in mind the white Arcadians from Canada and the black folks from Louisianan met on the same path (escaping different places) fell in love and voila - Cajuns - for those wide enough to go back down South, that is :)

Well, this part of the Wiki article states that the origins were African...

"In the 1930s and 1940s an African American linguist named Lorenzo Dow Turner did a seminal study of the Gullah language based on field research in rural communities in coastal South Carolina and Georgia. Turner found that Gullah is strongly influenced by African languages in its sound system, vocabulary, grammar, sentence structure, and semantic system. Turner identified over 300 loanwords from various African languages in Gullah and almost 4,000 African personal names used by Gullah people. He also found Gullahs living in remote sea-side settlements who could recite songs and story fragments and do simple counting in the Mende, Vai, and Fulani languages of West Africa. Turner published his findings in a classic work called Africanisms in the Gullah Dialect (1949). His book, now in its 4th edition, was most recently reprinted with a new introduction in 2002.

Before Lorenzo Turner's work, mainstream scholars viewed Gullah speech as substandard English, a hodgepodge of mispronounced words and corrupted grammar uneducated black people developed in their efforts to copy the speech of their English, Irish, Scottish, and French Huguenot slave owners.[2] But Turner's study was so well researched and so convincingly detailed in its presentation of evidence of African influences in Gullah that academics soon reversed course. After Turner's book was published in 1949, scholars began coming to the Gullah region on a regular basis to study African influences in Gullah language and culture."

314 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:52:54am

re: #301 rawmuse

Damn few. The ones at the Embarcadero are enforced until 9pm, even on Sundays.

Is that part of the price of living in The Peoples Socialist Collective of San Francisco?

I hear Chicago will be charging $3.50/hour.

315 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:53:07am

re: #303 rawmuse

Too many tourists for me. I have my fave local hangs.

My car got stolen just outside the tenderloin..
You know that huge sign in Tommy's that list all the beers from around the world?
Me and some buddies tried to drink one beer from every country one night..
didn't even get close...ahem youth

316 vxbush  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:53:09am

re: #310 mean Gene

The ''lost'' ballots only number 133 not enough to give Franken a win even if he got all of those votes!
So what can Franken do?
Cheat.
He wants a forensics team to examine the discarded ballots for ''intent.''

I thought he was going to petition the Senate to declare him the winner. Apparently, they can do that, although it's rarely been done.

I'd be worried about getting into bed with Harry Reid, though.

317 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:53:51am

If these were pictures of Arab women being attacked...

Disgrace
Shonda
Humiliation
Shameful
Assault

318 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:54:04am

re: #310 mean Gene

The ''lost'' ballots only number 133 not enough to give Franken a win even if he got all of those votes!
So what can Franken do?
Cheat.
He wants a forensics team to examine the discarded ballots for ''intent.''

CBS's new hit drama: CSI: St. Paul.

319 mean Gene  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:54:05am

#290 rawmuse
Are you sure you're really feeding a ''parking meter,'' and not a homeless person meter?
LOL.
SF has them both!

320 winston06  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:55:32am

hehehehe

321 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:56:04am

re: #315 HoosierHoops
Hey, hi ya Hoops! How are you doing?

322 Catttt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:56:39am

OJ will be in protective isolation. Will see only prison personnel delivering meals, with one hour per day for visitation.

323 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:56:53am

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

Interesting. I'm talking about the word Juke. Which I think is pretty much a combo/ The whole subject is interesting. Once saw a very good documentary on the origins of Rock & Roll. Apparently, Black, Irish and Jewish influences predominate.

324 doppelganglander  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:57:00am

re: #281 gmsc

Probably something like, "You can't sentence black people to jail for crimes which they've been legally convicted! That's racist!"

I think you've nailed it, except it was grammatically incorrect and included the word "witchhunt" (a sure sign of guilt in my book).

325 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:57:43am

re: #312 karmic_inquisitor

In the 80s, that neighborhood was the kind of place you would wake, in the trunk of a car, after being kidnapped.

Today, the whole area is really, very nice. Parks, restaurants, trendy marina cafes, expensive condos, and oh yes, the ball park is there.

326 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:58:22am

re: #19 hazzyday

As a life member of the NRA, I doubt the Hollywood types would listen to anything the NRA has to say.

327 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:58:35am

re: #321 realwest

Hey, hi ya Hoops! How are you doing?

I am doing wonderful Real..
Took the dog to the groomer today and we've been hanging out playing fetch inside.. ( frigg'n cold outside)
Watched Justice in Vegas a few minutes ago..
Hope you feel well today

328 Daisy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:58:41am

See you all later Lizards.

329 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 10:59:17am

re: #323 Daisy

Interesting. I'm talking about the word Juke. Which I think is pretty much a combo/ The whole subject is interesting. Once saw a very good documentary on the origins of Rock & Roll. Apparently, Black, Irish and Jewish influences predominate.

Well, the article on "juke" on Wiki, links to Gullah as the language source. I also know a well known author who is a bit of an expert on Gullah and she has confirmed the origins as Gullah and not any English deviations.

330 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:00:33am

re: #325 rawmuse

In the 80s, that neighborhood was the kind of place you would wake, in the trunk of a car, after being kidnapped.

Today, the whole area is really, very nice. Parks, restaurants, trendy marina cafes, expensive condos, and oh yes, the ball park is there.

Damn gentrification. Don't you miss the good old days when people would be killed by meth addicts for $2 & the homeless were crapping on street corners? It was more "authentic."

331 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:00:37am

re: #325 rawmuse

In the 80s, that neighborhood was the kind of place you would wake, in the trunk of a car, after being kidnapped.

Today, the whole area is really, very nice. Parks, restaurants, trendy marina cafes, expensive condos, and oh yes, the ball park is there.

Are you talking about south of market? Or has the whole waterfront been rehabed? I used to park down by the hyatt at the plaza. IIRC, they city was trying to get people to invest in south of market for revitalization. That was before the Embarcadero Freeway came down.

332 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:01:35am

re: #323 Daisy

Interesting. I'm talking about the word Juke. Which I think is pretty much a combo/ The whole subject is interesting. Once saw a very good documentary on the origins of Rock & Roll. Apparently, Black, Irish and Jewish influences predominate.


where it all began...

333 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:02:10am

re: #327 HoosierHoops
Sounds great! I'm not feelin' too good today - something wrong with my stomach.
But other than that I'm doing ok, thanks!

334 GordonShumway  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:02:14am

re: #323 Daisy

Interesting. I'm talking about the word Juke.

[Link: juke-box.dk...]

335 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:02:40am

re: #310 mean Gene

The ''lost'' ballots only number 133 not enough to give Franken a win even if he got all of those votes!
So what can Franken do?
Cheat.
He wants a forensics team to examine the discarded ballots for ''intent.''

There's still the 6000+ contested ballots.

/however, I can't see those cutting lopsided either way

336 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:02:41am

re: #331 karmic_inquisitor

Everything from 7th st. west to the waterfront, and from there northward to North Beach, you would not recognize it now.

337 debutaunt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:02:47am

re: #322 Cattt

OJ will be in protective isolation. Will see only prison personnel delivering meals, with one hour per day for visitation.

He loves to yammer.

338 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:02:56am

re: #330 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Really,hanging out in a waterfront bar used to mean something.

339 rawmuse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:03:31am

Sorry, I meant "east" to the waterfront.
Time for me to take a break. Later!

340 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:03:58am

Canada suffers 100th military casualty of Afghan mission


KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN — Three Canadian soldiers were killed by a bomb Friday morning, marking the 100th military death in the Afghan mission.

The troops were traveling in a vehicle in Arghandab district, west of Kandahar city, when an improvised explosive device detonated nearby around 9 a.m. local time, according to a Canadian military statement

My prayers and condolences to the families of these soldiers. My deepest gratitude to those who serve our country in uniform.

And my undying hatred to the politicians and media hacks who will play these sacrifices for political gain.

341 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:04:00am

re: #331 karmic_inquisitor

Are you talking about south of market? Or has the whole waterfront been rehabed? I used to park down by the hyatt at the plaza. IIRC, they city was trying to get people to invest in south of market for revitalization. That was before the Embarcadero Freeway came down.

The waterfront to at least the cut for the water plant has been rehabbed. You wouldn't believe how nice it is, now.

Go four blocks inland, and you're back in the world of the Tenderloin.

343 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:05:02am

re: #305 Daisy

If they could find out where the word was first used, it would tell us a lot. But that's a whole lot easier said than done!

A lot of terms that people once thought originated in the low country cities (particularly NOrleans) have been traced back to Appalachia and then to N England or Scotland. They just floated down there on the barges!

Unfortunately...I mean for etymologists!...the days of finding remote, unsullied Appalachians to put under a linguistic microscope are pretty much gone. The last generation raised without mass media is dying fast.

Anyway, thanks for the link. It's interesting to speculate, isn't it? :)

344 Rednek  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:05:08am

The CFR offer some free advice ($24.95 for the smelly commoners) to their dreamy hearthrob, BHO.

In the Executive Summary you can read this tidbit of their nuanced and sage wisdom:

President Obama’s principal focus will need
to be on Iran, because the clock is ticking on its nuclear
program. He should offer direct official engagement
with the Iranian government, without preconditions,
along with other incentives to attempt to prevent
Iran from developing a capacity to produce substantial
amounts of nuclear weapons-grade fuel in a short
amount of time. Simultaneously, he will need to concert
an international effort to impose harsher sanctions
on Iran if it rejects an outcome the United States and
others can accept. The objective is simple to describe
but will be difficult to achieve: to generate a suspension
of Iran’s enrichment program before it builds the
capacity to enrich enough uranium to provide it with
this “breakout” capability.

Well, lots more could be said. You can read the whole thing if you are into this sort of thing.

345 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:07:06am

re: #333 realwest

Sounds great! I'm not feelin' too good today - something wrong with my stomach.
But other than that I'm doing ok, thanks!

I'm sorry to hear that.. Listen and please take my advise..just try it..
I've had knee and hand op's, several broken bones and had issues with strong meds just killing my stomach..
This is the secret.. Drink Buttermilk.. It is the grossest thing known to man to taste...Don't even look at it..pretend you are Rocky drinking raw eggs.
In a couple days you'll be able to eat nails...
/thus sayeth the Hoopster

346 Russkilitlover  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:07:18am

re: #341 Dianna


Go four blocks inland, and you're back in the world of the Tenderloin.

Tenderloin? That's what I'm making for dinner tonight.

348 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:09:27am

FWIW, Market may have bottomed. Shrugging off the crappy news today and now moving into green territory. The greed / fear balance seems to be firming up with bargain hunting. Just bought some more myself.

We'll see.

349 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:09:38am

re: #342 WrathofG-d
WOW - there go my plans to be a Wal-Mart Greeter (from another story in your link):
Shoplifting suspect uses Taser on Wal-Mart worker
Thu Dec 4, 8:49 pm ETWICHITA, Kan. – Two suspected shoplifters are arrested after one of them zapped a Wichita Wal-Mart employee with a Taser. Police said that two Wal-Mart workers on Wednesday afternoon confronted a pair of women who tried to leave the store without paying for merchandise. At that point, one of the women fired an electroshock from the Taser.

The employee who was shocked was not seriously injured. The two workers were able to hold the suspects until police arrived and placed the women under arrest on suspicion of theft and battery.

___

Information from: KFDI-AM

350 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:11:32am

re: #327 HoosierHoops

Here's a good indoors game, to play with your dog: throw a tennis ball (dogie version) up the stairs, watch them bounce down, watch dog chasing them.
Its best played with two or even three balls - thrown separately, when he's got one in his mouth and has to get the other one ...

Hilarious, good exercise, lots of barking, lots of laughter!

351 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:11:59am

re: #345 HoosierHoops
Thanks Hoops - but this is from something even buttermilk won't fix - med's which I HAVE to take.
Happens every once in a while, I'm afraid.

352 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:12:00am

re: #349 realwest

Is it still solely "shoplifting" if you begin using weapons against the workers? Why wouldn't it be armed-robbery at that point.

353 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:12:40am

re: #345 HoosierHoops

Buttermilk tastes good! You can put it in a blender with a banana, or strawberries or whatever you like. And, yes, it's darn good for you too.

354 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:13:14am

re: #352 WrathofG-d

Is it still solely "shoplifting" if you begin using weapons against the workers? Why wouldn't it be armed-robbery at that point.

Might very well end up that way. Depends on the indictment.

355 bosforus  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:13:40am

re: #261 Ford_Prefect

You know there is a mad dash amongst lizards looking for images right now.

Stepped away for 15 minutes. Any good images posted?

357 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:13:57am

juke...slave women luring their men...fun...dancing...lead off one way then another

juke joints...gin joints up and down the Delta...road house

juke box...same as above with records

Congo Square...sacred ground inside Louis Armstrong Park, New Orleans

jukin'

358 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:14:32am

re: #352 WrathofG-d Don't know, but the artice says the two were charged with theft and battery (battery being what lay people call "assault") so maybe it worked out right. I sure has hell hope so.

359 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:14:45am

re: #350 yma o hyd

Here's a good indoors game, to play with your dog: throw a tennis ball (dogie version) up the stairs, watch them bounce down, watch dog chasing them.
Its best played with two or even three balls - thrown separately, when he's got one in his mouth and has to get the other one ...

Hilarious, good exercise, lots of barking, lots of laughter!

I love my new dog, Winston.. He likes walking around with a pup-peroni out his mouth like a cigar..
I might have to send him to rehab.

360 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:15:27am

re: #340 Kenneth

Sorry to hear this - its a fate your lads share with ours.

Thats one reason why I despise all politicians who use the lives of these young men and women for their political schemse - and treat them more than shabbily when they're back home.

Prayers for their families. Sad, just before Christmas.

361 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:16:51am

re: #346 Russkilitlover

Tenderloin? That's what I'm making for dinner tonight.

If only!

It's called the Tenderloin, and it's a pretty miserable section of the City. Hunters Point used to be safer.

Once, I parked on Sixth Street for a concert, and when I walked back to my car, I watched - in some awe - as the crack addict leaning on my vehicle lit his pipe. On the street, not even trying to hide it.

362 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:16:57am

Will Iran’s ‘economic evolution’ mean political revolution?

The crash in oil prices has wiped out much of Iranian gov't income. state subsidies on nearly every consumer necessity will be quickly phased out. Public unrest will follow. Can the Iranians continue to fund their nuke program? Will the police & regime thugs be able to keep the lid on trouble? Will the mullahs lash out as a last ditch attempt to hold on?

Barry, it's 3 am and you phone is ringing.

363 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:17:07am

FINALLY... a Charles-initiated Gun Thread.

364 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:19:12am

re: #350 yma o hyd

I do that with Mr. Wolf a lot!

/

365 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:19:22am

re: #363 Occasional Reader

FINALLY... a Charles-initiated Gun Thread.

And yet... nobody's talking about guns.

"It's a madhouse! A MADHOUSE!"

366 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:20:00am

re: #351 realwest

Thanks Hoops - but this is from something even buttermilk won't fix - med's which I HAVE to take.
Happens every once in a while, I'm afraid.

I love you but you are the most stubern guy i know..
I had one knee operation where the weight of a sheet on my leg caused me to scream.. I was on some strong shit for along time and it just killed my tummy.. ( you know me the picky eater )
A nurse told me to drink buttermilk every day to smooth the stomach..
And it works...
/ I really hope you start feeling better

367 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:20:16am

re: #359 HoosierHoops

I love my new dog, Winston.. He likes walking around with a pup-peroni out his mouth like a cigar..
I might have to send him to rehab.

Naah - let him enjoy it!

They can be so inentive - Miss Dog came across a traffic cone in the park yesterday - chewed already by some other dogs. She loved playing with it, and when I tried going home, she went back to it, stood next to it, as if to say, hey, c'mon, play some more.

Took some photos of her today, playing with it.
Ah - lets see if I can use one for my av ...

368 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:20:37am

re: #361 Dianna

If only!

It's called the Tenderloin, and it's a pretty miserable section of the City. Hunters Point used to be safer.

Once, I parked on Sixth Street for a concert, and when I walked back to my car, I watched - in some awe - as the crack addict leaning on my vehicle lit his pipe. On the street, not even trying to hide it.

Dianna, are you in Austin?

369 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:20:47am

re: #366 HoosierHoops
Thanks Hoops - I do appreciate your concern.

370 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:20:56am

re: #365 Occasional Reader

Ok. Any suggestion for a 1st gun, home protection weapon, that can be bought in CA, must be used in a Condo, and won't cost over $400 or so?

371 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:21:32am

Gates Seeks Congress's Help in Closing Guantanamo

Mr. Obama has pledged to close the prison, but aides say it is easier said than done. The president-elect will have to make decisions on issues such as the fate of prisoners who have been approved for release, but whom no other country is willing to accept.

More than a dozen Uighurs, Chinese Muslims who were captured near the Afghan border, have been cleared of terrorism charges but remain locked up at Guantanamo because they face persecution in China and no country will accept them.

Mr. Obama will also have to decide whether, and how, to prosecute "high-value detainees" such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Central Intelligence Agency officials have acknowledged that Mr. Mohammed was subjected to waterboarding, a form of simulated drowning, and statements obtained through coercion are difficult to use in court.

It's much easier to be "against" something than it is to actually do something reasonable about the problem.

372 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:21:34am

re: #329 Walter L. Newton

Well, the article on "juke" on Wiki, links to Gullah as the language source. I also know a well known author who is a bit of an expert on Gullah and she has confirmed the origins as Gullah and not any English deviations.

If you believe that, you're awfully Gullahble.

/

373 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:22:28am

re: #364 wolfie

I do that with Mr. Wolf a lot!

/

It was even more fun when Big Dog was playing as well - two dogs thundering up and down the stairs, tongues lolling ... me trying to sneak a few throw in which went down the hall ... those were the days ...

374 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:22:41am

re: #370 WrathofG-d

Ok. Any suggestion for a 1st gun, home protection weapon, that can be bought in CA, must be used in a Condo, and won't cost over $400 or so?

Mossberg 500 12 gauge pump.

Next question?

(I confess, I'm not sure what you mean by "must be used in a Condo")

375 Rancher  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:22:57am

O.J. will be PC'ed in segregation with one hour of rec and one fifteen minute shower a day. Visits will be behind glass and only if he is a good boy. For at least nine years :)

Real Rancher from deep in a N.M. prison.

376 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:23:17am

re: #68 Cattt

Juke

377 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:23:32am

BIAB - going to download those new photos and see if one can serve as av ...

378 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:24:09am

re: #374 Occasional Reader

By must be used.., I mean that I don't want the projectiles to go through the walls, and I don't want the barrel too long so I can't go around corners.

379 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:24:42am

re: #376 Killgore Trout

Juke

exactly right...

380 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:24:44am

re: #374 Occasional Reader

Mossberg 500 12 gauge pump.

Next question?

(I confess, I'm not sure what you mean by "must be used in a Condo")

Figure he means like an Apartment type deal, lots of neighbors in close proximity.

Shotgun, use a light load, imo

381 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:25:14am

Well that video is a start but better to join the Boy Scouts and get the Rifle and Shotgun merit badges.

382 Russkilitlover  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:25:17am

re: #361 Dianna

If only!

It's called the Tenderloin, and it's a pretty miserable section of the City. Hunters Point used to be safer.

Once, I parked on Sixth Street for a concert, and when I walked back to my car, I watched - in some awe - as the crack addict leaning on my vehicle lit his pipe. On the street, not even trying to hide it.

Yeah, I know the Tenderloin area. Wound up there more than a few times because Mr. Russkilitlover refused to ask directions after we'd been driving in circles for 1/2 an hour!

383 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:26:37am

re: #380 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The sound of a shotgun mechanism being worked is often enough to send the bad guys away.

A dog is a good idea too.

384 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:26:40am

re: #368 legalpad

Dianna, are you in Austin?

No, San Francisco. Or, at least, I work there.

I wouldn't live here any more on a bet.

385 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:28:15am

re: #370 WrathofG-d

Go down to your local Big 5 Sporting Goods and talk to the guy behind the gun counter about a shotgun.

Even with the mad run on guns and ammo, lately, you should be able to pick up a pump-action Mossberg for about $350-$400.

386 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:28:27am

re: #370 WrathofG-d

Ok. Any suggestion for a 1st gun, home protection weapon, that can be bought in CA, must be used in a Condo, and won't cost over $400 or so?

For a 1st gun (with no dollar restriction) I'd suggest a .45 auto with an attached flashlight/laser. Otherwise, a 12 guage pump action with a pistol grip (depending on your hand/wrist strength). But I don't know what costs are out on the coast. I'd think prices might be lower if you go to a gun show, but I'm a novice in the area of shows.

I'd suggest you go to a gun shop and talk to someone with an inventory they can show you.

387 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:29:15am

Took me some time to find. Check this shot gun out.
AA12

388 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:29:39am

re: #378 WrathofG-d

By must be used.., I mean that I don't want the projectiles to go through the walls, and I don't want the barrel too long so I can't go around corners.

Got it. Mossberg 500 with 18" barrel (if legal in CA, your gun store guys will know), 20" if not. Load with #4 or #6 shot; should be perfectly fine for Getting the Sh*t Done if need be, but won't blow through walls.

389 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:29:43am
390 ROPMA  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:29:44am

re: #370 WrathofG-d

12 gauge pump shotgun

391 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:29:52am

re: #382 Russkilitlover

Yeah, I know the Tenderloin area. Wound up there more than a few times because Mr. Russkilitlover refused to ask directions after we'd been driving in circles for 1/2 an hour!

In SF? Ha!

I have lived in the area since 1981, and I still ask directions. This city was not laid out for driving.

392 Lee Coller  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:29:54am

re: #370 WrathofG-d

Ok. Any suggestion for a 1st gun, home protection weapon, that can be bought in CA, must be used in a Condo, and won't cost over $400 or so?

Remington 870 loaded with bird shot.

393 Rancher  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:30:03am

re: #384 Dianna
San Francisco is a wonderful place!

To visit.

Real Rancher

394 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:31:10am

re: #374 Occasional Reader

Mossberg 500 12 gauge pump.

Next question?

(I confess, I'm not sure what you mean by "must be used in a Condo")

You'll want to take a look at ammo too. For a 12 guage, I'd suggest something like Remington Handicap Premier Target Load. It's designed for shooting clay targets, but it has a lighter load, so shouldn't go through your neighbor's wall.

For a handgun, I'd suggest loading with prefragmented ammo for the same reason.

395 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:32:02am

re: #383 Ojoe

The sound of a shotgun mechanism being worked is often enough to send the bad guys away.

A dog is a good idea too.

Best of all; a dog that's trained to use the shotgun.

396 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:34:05am

re: #384 Dianna

No, San Francisco. Or, at least, I work there.

I wouldn't live here any more on a bet.

You are right about the city.. The city is the most beautiful city in the world..I mean the views are just breath-taking...

397 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:34:44am

re: #393 Rancher

San Francisco is a wonderful place!

To visit.

Real Rancher

It's not even bad to work here. But I swear to you that I notice, every year, that it's dirtier, and the streets are in worse shape.

And MUNI provokes me to bad language with monotonous regularity. I hold that it is a system that could be run better by toddlers playing with blocks. I believe, in my soul, that the N Judah Line drivers get a bonus for making us commuters miss our trains. I am certain that when something dies on a MUNI train, it is carefully preserved, so the commuters can arrive at their jobs sick to their stomachs. The only thing that keeps the filth and the bugs under control on MUNI is that there are no soft surfaces, and they must hose the trains out.

Suing MUNI is a sport, here. And anyone can play!

398 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:34:55am

re: #395 Occasional Reader

Best of all; a dog that's trained to use the shotgun.

Nay.. I've already got a monkey trained to do that.

399 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:35:12am

It is pretty amazing that Plaxico decided to put a loaded handgun in his waistband with the safety off. That was an accident that was bound to happen.

/Plaxico, Plaxico Burress, dolt of the night club scene

400 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:35:18am

How did we get to a gun p0rn thread? First time I have seen that here. Feel kinda like I'm at Kim's or Misha"s house.

401 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:36:35am
402 Rancher  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:36:44am

re: #395 Occasional Reader

Best of all; a dog that's trained to use the shotgun.

403 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:37:00am

re: #398 HoosierHoops

Nay.. I've already got a monkey trained to do that.

My monkey prefers hand guns.

404 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:37:23am

Well all y'all it's been interesting to say the least today, but I have to leave now.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

405 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:37:37am

re: #384 Dianna

No, San Francisco. Or, at least, I work there.

I wouldn't live here any more on a bet.

Austin has a 6th street famous for night life, but I think they might have more trouble with the public use of crack.

406 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:38:51am

re: #398 HoosierHoops

Nay.. I've already got a monkey trained to do that.

Gah.

407 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:39:05am

re: #403 MandyManners

My monkey prefers hand guns.

I've seen your monkey! I'd be safer to hang out with Plexico in a nightclub at 3am

408 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:39:33am

re: #399 Killian Bundy

It is pretty amazing that Plaxico decided to put a loaded handgun in his waistband with the safety off.

From what I've seen in the news reports, it was a Glock (they never say which model). So no external safety to be "on" or "off".

409 Rancher  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:40:10am

re: #397 Dianna

You need a Rudy Giuliani, if New York could elect such a person so can S.F. You might have to wait till it gets bad enough to effect tourism though. :(

410 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:40:12am

re: #391 Dianna

In SF? Ha!

I have lived in the area since 1981, and I still ask directions. This city was not laid out for driving.

Even Garmin gets lost in SF.

411 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:40:31am

The Mossberg's a great shotgun. However, the Remington 870 has more aftermarket options available if you want to alter things over time. That's the primary reason I went with the 870 with the shorter barrel. Over time, I've added an extended magazine, folding stock and laser/flashlight combo that can be activated by a touchpad.

For sheer intimidation, the pump action sound of the shotgun in a dark room will generally cause loosening bowels by the perpatrator. However, if you're in a hallway and need to turn around quickly, the handgun will allow you more rapid physical movement.

There are certainly different schools of thought with regards to home defense. Me, I figure the best home defense tool is the closest to hand when I need it.

412 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:40:47am

WrathofG-d, but of course my primary piece of advice on the subject is to ask yourself "why do they hate me?", then sit down with your so-called "enemies" without preconditions.

413 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:40:56am

Are Students Coddled? Schools Get Rid of 'F's

Social Engineering Gone Wild.

414 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:42:28am

re: #412 Occasional Reader

WrathofG-d, but of course my primary piece of advice on the subject is to ask yourself "why do they hate me?", then sit down with your so-called "enemies" without preconditions.

Don't forget to send them Millions of Dollars to butter them up..

415 LilyGecko  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:42:41am

Ha! That was just hilarious.

Another moral of the story (besides 'Don't Play With Guns'): Fame Isn't Everything.

416 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:42:50am

re: #411 96RoadKing

The Mossberg's a great shotgun. However, the Remington 870 has more aftermarket options available

I like the tang-mounted safety on the Mossbergs. It's more intuitive than a crossbolt, IMO.

And Surefire does make more stuff that's compatible with Mossberg than they used to, I believe.

417 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:43:22am

re: #414 HoosierHoops

Don't forget to send them Millions of Dollars to butter them up..

And apologize for whatever it is that made them angry in the first place.

418 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:43:45am

This pisses me off

An Israeli police officer drags two Jewish settlers during the evacuation of a disputed house in the West Bank city of Hebron, Thursday, Dec. 4, 2008.

419 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:43:59am

re: #408 Occasional Reader

From what I've seen in the news reports, it was a Glock (they never say which model). So no external safety to be "on" or "off".

/so, you can't safe a Glock?

420 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:44:19am

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

421 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:44:47am

re: #417 Occasional Reader

And apologize for whatever it is that made them angry in the first place.

Why Apologize? Just give them all your land...
/should work

422 Rancher  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:45:09am

We should form a militia. Wouldn't that scare the hell out of the LGF haters?

423 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:45:10am

re: #409 Rancher

It's actually pretty funny; San Franciscans inevitably plump for the marginally saner candidate.

The problem being that it's a matter of "marginally saner."

We miss King Willie. (Mayor Willie Brown).

424 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:45:25am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

Traci Lords.

Or did you mean another type of wide receiver?

425 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:45:33am

re: #420 wolfie

Jerry Rice

426 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:45:42am

re: #413 Ben Hur

F That!

427 DeafDog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:45:47am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

Steve Largent or Jerry Rice.

428 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:45:58am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

Steve Largent

429 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:46:08am

re: #419 Killian Bundy

/so, you can't safe a Glock?

Glocks all have "internal" safeties only. Which is to say; they absolutely, positively will not fire, unless you pull the trigger; but they will fire if you do (and there's a round in the chamber). There is no safety "switch". Personally, I think this is a very good system; less is more, one simple rule to remember. Of course, that wasn't enough for Plaxico.

430 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:46:20am

re: #425 saberry0530

Lynn Swann

431 wiffersnapper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:46:25am

I'm barack obama and I approve this message

432 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:46:55am

re: #392 Lee Coller

re: #390 ROPMA

re: #389 Iron Fist

re: #388 Occasional Reader

AND EVERYONE ELSE

Thanks. Seems that it is going to be a Shotgun. Now, I just have to see what is legal to own here in the Socialist Republic of California.

433 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:46:57am

re: #414 HoosierHoops

Don't forget to send them Millions of Dollars to butter them up..

No, that's what his relatives get, after you justifiably shoot the perpetrator while he's raping your dog.

434 Dustyvet  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:47:00am

re: #20 realwest

OMG - That's the funniest video I've ever seen out here! ROTFLMAO! LOL!

BANG! THAT MOTHER F*** IS POSSESSED...I just lost another key board...

435 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:47:14am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

cris carter
marvin harris

436 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:47:30am

re: #429 Occasional Reader

What beats all is that Plaxico claims he didn't know he had the loaded pistol in there to begin with.

437 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:47:45am

Has there been any explanation published as to how he came to be named "Plaxico"?

438 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:47:53am

re: #424 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #425 saberry0530

:O re: #427 DeafDog

Good ones! Lynn Swann !

439 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:48:17am

re: #436 Honorary Yooper

What beats all is that Plaxico claims he didn't know he had the loaded pistol in there to begin with.

I guess he thought he was just happy to be there.

440 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:48:24am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

Easy...He went to High School with my mom and i have a picture of him bouncing me on his lap.
Gene Washington of the SF49er's

441 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:48:36am

re: #416 Occasional Reader

So many options...so little time...

442 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:48:41am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

Dwight Clark?

443 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:48:49am

re: #432 WrathofG-d

re: #390 ROPMA

re: #389 Iron Fist

re: #388 Occasional Reader

AND EVERYONE ELSE

Thanks. Seems that it is going to be a Shotgun. Now, I just have to see what is legal to own here in the Socialist Republic of California.

Your nearest gun store guys (and gals) will know.

Our very own Lizardoid Liegelord has a Mossberg 12 gauge, so that presumably is doable in CA.

444 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:48:52am

re: #389 Iron Fist

Remington 870 Tactical I'm also a big fan of the Winchester 1300 Defender shotgun, but Winchester no longer makes them. You can find them at gun shows used for about $200.

You recommend pistol grips over the standard stock?

445 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:49:07am

My kinda girls and guns. NSFW or easily offended.
Bye Kim

446 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:49:09am

re: #437 Occasional Reader

Has there been any explanation published as to how he came to be named "Plaxico"?

Apparently he's named after his uncle. As to why his uncle was named "Plaxico", who knows?

447 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:49:31am

re: #437 Occasional Reader

Has there been any explanation published as to how he came to be named "Plaxico"?

Yes.. His Mama called him Plaxico...

448 debutaunt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:49:35am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

Jerry Rice

449 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:49:57am

re: #436 Honorary Yooper

What beats all is that Plaxico claims he didn't know he had the loaded pistol in there to begin with.

Reminds of this classic

450 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:49:59am

re: #437 Occasional Reader

Has there been any explanation published as to how he came to be named "Plaxico"?

Parental malpractice is my diagnosis.

451 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:50:11am

re: #435 albusteve

Not famous enough. Hey, they don't even capitalize their names!

/

452 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:50:19am
453 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:50:45am

re: #420 wolfie

Football challenge:

Name any wide receiver (must be reasonably famous) who is/was demonstrably of sane mind and sound character.

After Art Monk, I come up empty.

Donald Driver. #80 Green Bay Packers.

454 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:50:54am

re: #446 Honorary Yooper

Apparently he's named after his uncle. As to why his uncle was named "Plaxico", who knows?

It sounds like a cholesterol medicine, if you ask me.

455 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:50:56am

re: #451 wolfie

Not famous enough. Hey, they don't even capitalize their names!

/

both HoFers someday

456 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:51:03am

re: #443 Occasional Reader

Your nearest gun store guys (and gals) will know.

Our very own Lizardoid Liegelord has a Mossberg 12 gauge, so that presumably is doable in CA.

They sell them at Big 5 Sporting Goods.

457 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:51:17am

re: #445 Erik The Red

My kinda girls and guns. NSFW or easily offended.
Bye Kim

I am going to have to take up hunting.

458 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:51:23am

re: #452 Iron Fist

We already have a gang. Have had for years. DU and Indymediot ate it up, too. It was funny as hell.

And don't forget our "paramilitary training"!

459 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:51:37am

re: #412 Occasional Reader

I figure if someone comes into my home and threatens my family I will simply ask them what I did to upset them, inquire about their childhood, apologize for their treatment in society while taking full responsibility for it, give them money, and if this does not satisfy them, ultimately hand over 1/2 of my home.

460 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:51:43am

re: #447 HoosierHoops

Yes.. His Mama called him Plaxico...

lol.

Reminds me of one of my favorite SNL moments

"Your spelling bee word is synergy"
"Can you use it in a sentence?"
"Yes. Your spelling bee word is synergy."

461 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:51:44am

re: #445 Erik The Red

/What could possibly be offensive there?

462 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:52:00am

re: #440 HoosierHoops

Great! I remember him!

463 tedzilla99  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:52:37am

re: #233 buzzsawmonkey

Have I ever seen a football game? Not since college, if I could help it. Never cared for the sport. Which of course accounts for my unfamiliarity with sport-specific slang which a number of people here seem familiar with.

I heard something which sounded off--but it seems I was mistaken. Fine. I've gotten over it, and advise you to consider doing the same. I find the derivation somewhat curious, but on reflection can see how a slang term for evasion in a mobile sport could evolve from dancing (i.e., juke-related) rather than cheating (i.e, "jew"-related).

Thanks for the condescension! I was 'over it' before it started, mate - and was trying to help you see the light.

464 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:52:54am

re: #429 Occasional Reader

Glocks all have "internal" safeties only. Which is to say; they absolutely, positively will not fire, unless you pull the trigger; but they will fire if you do (and there's a round in the chamber). There is no safety "switch". Personally, I think this is a very good system; less is more, one simple rule to remember. Of course, that wasn't enough for Plaxico.

But, supposedly, he didn't pull the trigger, he tried to grab it when it fell down his leg.

/they have trigger guards, right?

465 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:52:55am

re: #459 WrathofG-d

I figure if someone comes into my home and threatens my family I will simply ask them what I did to upset them, inquire about their childhood, apologize for their treatment in society while taking full responsibility for it, give them money, and if this does not satisfy them, ultimately hand over 1/2 of my home.

What makes you think you should be allowed to keep half, you Zionist occupier!

466 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:53:00am

re: #444 Creeping Eruption

You recommend pistol grips over the standard stock?

yes much easier and safer to handle with one hand...the trigger finger doesnt get in the way

467 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:53:11am

re: #459 WrathofG-d

I figure if someone comes into my home and threatens my family I will simply ask them what I did to upset them, inquire about their childhood, apologize for their treatment in society while taking full responsibility for it, give them money, and if this does not satisfy them, ultimately hand over 1/2 of my home.

I hope you forgot the / tag or is that your default mode?

468 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:53:35am

re: #432 WrathofG-d
Check out www.nra-ila.com and go to the 'gun laws' tab. You'll be able to check out your local laws fairly easily.

469 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:53:43am

re: #462 wolfie

Great! I remember him!

He is the VP of Football Operations for the NFL...
Everybody goes to the Class reunions!

470 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:53:49am

re: #459 WrathofG-d

I figure if someone comes into my home and threatens my family I will simply ask them what I did to upset them, inquire about their childhood, apologize for their treatment in society while taking full responsibility for it, give them money, and if this does not satisfy them, ultimately hand over 1/2 of my home.

Excellent. And remember, when they say, "my intention is to murder you and your entire family", what they really mean is "I cry out for peace, self-determination and social justice". You need to know how to interpret this sort of nuanced language correctly.

471 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:54:03am

re: #459 WrathofG-d

Only half?
Sounds like apartmentheid to me! You racist occupier!

472 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:55:21am

Good Afternoon everyone... That was one funny video, sent it to my boss, who is laughing so hard he may need oxygen. Thanks, Charles!

473 DeafDog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:55:24am

re: #438 wolfie

Your point is well taken, however. Head cases at WR is common.

474 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:55:30am

re: #443 Occasional Reader

Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.

475 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:55:33am

re: #464 Killian Bundy

But, supposedly, he didn't pull the trigger, he tried to grab it when it fell down his leg.

/they have trigger guards, right?

Yes, they have trigger guards. He was an idiot for wearing it stuffed into his waistband, if that's what he was doing. A Glock will not fire - no way, no how - unless the trigger is pulled. Of course, he may have grabbed it the wrong way and pulled the trigger through his pants fabric inadvertently.

476 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:56:06am
477 imtoast  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:56:09am

re: #10 realwest

Huh, talk about money and brain cells - just posted this on the prior thread when Charles put this thread up and sorry for the re-post:

OT and posted in spinoff links in prior thread, but you all have to read this one:

Obama raised $104 million toward election's close
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's presidential campaign raised $104 million in the weeks around Election Day, a grand finale to a successful bid that shattered fundraising records.

Overall, Obama raised nearly $750 million during his odyssey to the presidency, and his spending in the eight weeks before the election vastly outpaced that of his Republican rival John McCain, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. The reporting period covered Oct. 15-Nov. 24.

The campaign said more than 1 million contributors donated during the period, with more than half donating for the first time. Throughout the campaign, more than 3.95 million contributors gave to the eventual president-elect, his campaign said.

Obama's fundraising sum was more than the combined total of the two major parties' nominees four years ago. George W. Bush and John Kerry pulled in a total of $653 million in the 2004 primary and general election campaigns, including federal public financing money.

The final numbers underscore how pivotal the two candidates' strategies were for funding their general election campaigns: McCain accepted $84 million in taxpayer money through the public financing system; Obama gambled that he could raise far more from private money.

The two campaigns spent identical amounts in June, $25.6 million each. But from there the numbers diverged widely, until a stretch in October when the Obama financial juggernaut swamped McCain. By then, the Democrat was outspending his rival four to one.

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, was expected to report spending $30,000 on accessories for McCain running mate Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska. The RNC reported in October that it had spent nearly $150,000 on Palin for clothes and accessories. A party spokesman said Thursday that the expenditures were directed by the McCain campaign and that the garments have been returned to the party.

"The accessories used by Governor Palin and represented in the Republican National Committee's filings both in October and December with the Federal Election Commission were the result of coordinated expenditures at the campaign's direction," the spokesman, Alex Conant, said. "Accessories have been returned, inventoried, and will be appropriately dispersed to various charities."
[emphasis added, realwest]

As I've said before, Obama BOUGHT this election and rented America for four years.


What I would lie to know is why bambi's campaign guys are still sending emails begging for money. Isn't that illegal?

478 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:56:14am

re: #464 Killian Bundy

But, supposedly, he didn't pull the trigger, he tried to grab it when it fell down his leg.

/they have trigger guards, right?

/then again, even with an external safety off, you'd still have to somehow pull the trigger

479 imtoast  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:56:45am

Oops, that should be "like" not lie.

480 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:56:55am

re: #472 CapeCoddah

Good Afternoon everyone... That was one funny video, sent it to my boss, who is laughing so hard he may need oxygen. Thanks, Charles!

Howdy Cape. I did the same and my boss came into my office laughing his head off...Actually I should probably go clean that up.

481 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:57:55am

re: #474 lawhawk

Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.

Man, he's good. He fires three shots from a double-barrelled shotgun without reloading!

482 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:58:02am

re: #401 Iron Fist

All LGF threads eventually become gun threads.

Or a boob thread.

Or both.

483 bulwrk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:58:32am

re: #420 wolfie

Jerry Rice
Steve Largent
Jack Snow

484 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:58:47am

re: #475 Occasional Reader

Yes, they have trigger guards. He was an idiot for wearing it stuffed into his waistband, if that's what he was doing. A Glock will not fire - no way, no how - unless the trigger is pulled. Of course, he may have grabbed it the wrong way and pulled the trigger through his pants fabric inadvertently.

This should be a BasketBall player story.
1. Don't put a gun in your waistband
2. never have a bullet in the chamber
3. Always have the Safety on
4. It's also a good idea to have a legal permit

485 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:59:08am

re: #480 Ford_Prefect

Howdy Cape. I did the same and my boss came into my office laughing his head off...Actually I should probably go clean that up.

LOL, I get nervous when my boss laughs until his side hurt, he just recovered from a liver transplant. I dont want any loose connections!

486 ROPMA  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:59:27am

Get any used pump shotgun at a gun show or pawn shop. It should be less than $200. Leave the stock on--much easier to aim that way. You want a 18 1/2 inch barrel. It is best to avoid the tactical black guns--prosecutors love "evil black guns"

487 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 11:59:50am

re: #482 Kenneth

Or a boob thread.

Or both.

Yeehaw!

488 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:00:08pm

re: #486 ROPMA

Get any used pump shotgun at a gun show or pawn shop. It should be less than $200. Leave the stock on--much easier to aim that way. You want a 18 1/2 inch barrel. It is best to avoid the tactical black guns--prosecutors love "evil black guns"

If they come after you, play the race card!

489 tedzilla99  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:00:10pm

re: #476 buzzsawmonkey

Any time. You sound as if you are difficult not to condescend to, and--to use your words--are looking for reasons to be offended.

Projection is a funny thing, as you're demonstrating. I couldn't possibly be offended by someone on a messageboard, yet you're the one who was holding on so tight to the jew explanation after untold posts telling you what it meant - yet you 'suggest' I get over it?

If your problem must become my problem so that you can have a good day, then have a good day.

490 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:00:36pm

re: #482 Kenneth

Or a boob thread.

Or both.

Never have I wanted to be a holster so much in my life.

491 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:00:47pm

re: #473 DeafDog

I'm glad I asked, because I was starting to think the position required a large degree of (ahem!) goofiness. The answers remind me that many GREAT receivers were/are quite sane and decent. So I conclude that having loose screws, while being no impediment, is not necessary to the position!

492 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:01:50pm

re: #485 CapeCoddah

LOL, I get nervous when my boss laughs until his side hurt, he just recovered from a liver transplant. I dont want any loose connections!

Yeah, I can see how that would be bad. How are things up on the cape today?

493 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:02:18pm
494 Kragar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:02:29pm

re: #486 ROPMA

prosecutors love "evil black guns"

THEY ARE GUNS OF COLOR!

495 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:02:40pm

re: #490 Creeping Eruption

Never have I wanted to be a holster so much in my life.

Oh no you didn't. /

496 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:03:51pm
497 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:03:59pm

re: #495 Ford_Prefect

Oh no you didn't. /

Oh yes I did!

498 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:04:01pm

re: #20 realwest

OMG - That's the funniest video I've ever seen out here! ROTFLMAO! LOL!

Have you seen this educational video?

499 Mauser  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:04:13pm

re: #444 Creeping Eruption

My 500 came with both. (The plastic stocked version). The pistol grip would be better for small spaces, with light loads. Be sure to practice with it, because it can be trickier to aim.

500 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:04:20pm

re: #492 Ford_Prefect

Yeah, I can see how that would be bad. How are things up on the cape today?

It is and was a beautiful day. The Harwich Port Christmas stroll is tonight, taking the granddaughter to have her picture taken with Santa at the photography studio across from dunkin donuts, then walk back home via Main St. and see everything. Lots of eggnog and clam chowder at all the stores.

501 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:04:39pm

With one more precinct to go, Norm Coleman still leads Franken by 190 votes...not counting the challenged ballots...

502 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:04:57pm

re: #498 maddogg

Have you seen this educational video?

One of the best

503 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:05:33pm

re: #499 Mauser

My 500 came with both. (The plastic stocked version). The pistol grip would be better for small spaces, with light loads. Be sure to practice with it, because it can be trickier to aim.

You prefer the pistol grip?

504 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:05:33pm

re: #494 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

THEY ARE GUNS OF COLOR!


RACIST!

505 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:05:42pm

re: #474 lawhawk

I am looking for a video from a blog(that I can't remember that shows a frenchman with his broomstick) any ideas?

506 wolfie  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:06:40pm

re: #489 tedzilla99

If you couldn't possibly be offended by a post on a message board, perhaps you should not begin your reply with a phrase like "thanks for the condescension," which implies that you are not only offended but very easily so.
Just a suggestion.

507 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:07:19pm

re: #505 Erik The Red

Dissident frogman? Saavy?

508 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:07:37pm

re: #500 CapeCoddah

It is and was a beautiful day. The Harwich Port Christmas stroll is tonight, taking the granddaughter to have her picture taken with Santa at the photography studio across from dunkin donuts, then walk back home via Main St. and see everything. Lots of eggnog and clam chowder at all the stores.

Sounds great. We took my daughter to have "Brunch with Santa" this past weekend. It was held at the same restaurant/hall where we got married. They had crafts for the kids and a young lady ice skating. It was great.

509 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:07:42pm

re: #493 Iron Fist

I prefer the pistol grip stock. It is as much a cosmetic preference as it is a practical preference. I don't like pistol-grips only on a shotgun with an 18" barrel. It's just too unweildy. If you drop the barrel back to 12-14" it's better, but that's a lot of paperwork and $200 to do legally. I'd strongly discourage shortening the barrel illegally. It takes a hacksaw and a half-hour or so to make, but it's worth up to ten long years in the Federal Men's Club.

That's one of the reasons I prefer the Winchester 1300. As a practical matter, you can't shorten the barrel down to under 18".

If money wasn't an issue, I'd prefer the Remington 1100 Tactical. It's more expensive, but it is nice. There's also Bennelli, but you are talking really pricey for what you get.

the Stoeger is the cheaper version of the Bennilli...same design/actiondouble slide etc...lesser quality metal...made in Turkey...built to take alot of abuse and dirt...there are some problems with refeed and ejection but mine seems fine in that regard...P350 18.5 pump

510 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:08:26pm

re: #505 Erik The Red

I am looking for a video from a blog(that I can't remember that shows a frenchman with his broomstick) any ideas?

Must. Not. Comment...

511 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:09:28pm

re: #502 Creeping Eruption

One of the best

ROTFLMAO

512 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:10:13pm

re: #505 Erik The Red

I am looking for a video from a blog(that I can't remember that shows a frenchman with his broomstick) any ideas?

You mean the Dissident Frogman?

Shooty/no shooty?

Behold!

513 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:11:29pm

re: #508 Ford_Prefect

Sounds great. We took my daughter to have "Brunch with Santa" this past weekend. It was held at the same restaurant/hall where we got married. They had crafts for the kids and a young lady ice skating. It was great.

Kids are the perfect excuse for grownups to secretly enjoy going to see Santa!

514 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:11:44pm

re: #507 lawhawk

Dissident frogman? Saavy?

Thanks have that link at work.

515 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:12:34pm

re: #507 lawhawk

Dissident frogman? Saavy?

That is one of my all time favorites. He mocks them on an almost obscene level.

516 SWPaul  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:13:03pm

re: #474 lawhawk

Brilliant!
"This is my BOOMSTICK!"

Just got Netflix and I think I'll have to put that on the list! Thanks for the reminder!

517 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:13:18pm

re: #513 CapeCoddah

Kids are the perfect excuse for grownups to secretly enjoy going to see Santa's cute female elves in short red miniskirts!

518 tedzilla99  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:13:43pm

re: #506 wolfie

If you couldn't possibly be offended by a post on a message board, perhaps you should not begin your reply with a phrase like "thanks for the condescension," which implies that you are not only offended but very easily so.
Just a suggestion.

Perhaps I typed that as a reminder that when you condescend when you're proven wrong about something, you look like an ass? It was just a suggestion. I actually laughed when I read it, which prompted my reply about projection.

519 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:13:48pm

re: #507 lawhawk

Dissident frogman? Saavy?

Never shooty before.

LOL!

520 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:14:18pm

re: #493 Iron Fist

I prefer the pistol grip stock. It is as much a cosmetic preference

But should one wear a pistol grip after Labor Day?

521 ROPMA  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:14:20pm

If you have to use your home defense shotgun it is best if it looks like an old duck hunting gun. NOT black tactical. Use #4 buckshot-gives good goblin penetration without a lot of over penetration of walls.

522 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:14:41pm

OMG!1!1! another creationist bashing post!

it's a jihad i tell ya!

/moonbat

523 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:14:43pm

re: #517 Kenneth

Kids are the perfect excuse for grownups to secretly enjoy going to see Santa's cute female elves in short red miniskirts!

The Mrs. Claus I saw didn't look like that. (He didn't have any elves with him)

524 DEPORTMAN  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:15:29pm

Too bad this didn't happen last January...

525 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:15:31pm

re: #512 Dianna

You mean the Dissident Frogman?

Shooty/no shooty?

Behold!

"French by birth.
Pro-american by nature.

Yep, Rousseau was a dickweed."

Gotta love the guy.

526 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:15:42pm

Good Afternoon Lizard Nation!

TGIF!

527 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:16:03pm

re: #512 Dianna

You mean the Dissident Frogman?

Shooty/no shooty?

Behold!

Hysterical

528 vxbush  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:16:10pm

re: #526 loppyd

Good Afternoon Lizard Nation!

TGIF!

Heyyy...TGIF, indeed. I will curl up in my recliner and I probably won't move all weekend.

529 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:16:34pm

re: #520 Occasional Reader

But should one wear a pistol grip after Labor Day?

only if it matches your lipstick obviously...otherwise non seasonal

530 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:16:41pm

re: #521 ROPMA

If you have to use your home defense shotgun it is best if it looks like an old duck hunting gun.

Rabbit hunting gun!

Duck hunting gun!

[etc.]

531 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:17:02pm

re: #512 Dianna

Now THAT is funny.

532 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:17:30pm

re: #507 lawhawk

Dissident frogman? Saavy?

Link for me Real I can't find it.

533 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:17:39pm

re: #526 loppyd

Good Afternoon Lizard Nation!

TGIF!

Afternoon Loppy!

TGIF indeed. My work week ends in less than 15 minutes. Maybe I should try and do some work...Nah... Why start now?

534 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:17:41pm

re: #520 Occasional Reader

But should one wear a pistol grip after Labor Day?

As long as it is not white or straw.

535 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:17:46pm

re: #528 vxbush

Heyyy...TGIF, indeed. I will curl up in my recliner and I probably won't move all weekend.

That sounds yummy!

I'm headed to Jackson, NH for a girls weekend...

536 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:18:06pm
537 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:18:21pm

re: #521 ROPMA

If you have to use your home defense shotgun it is best if it looks like an old duck hunting gun. NOT black tactical. Use #4 buckshot-gives good goblin penetration without a lot of over penetration of walls.

you got the black matte blues?

538 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:18:24pm

re: #533 Ford_Prefect

Afternoon Loppy!

TGIF indeed. My work week ends in less than 15 minutes. Maybe I should try and do some work...Nah... Why start now?

Hello!

Work is overrated. LOL

539 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:18:33pm

re: #527 Creeping Eruption

Hysterical

Thank you this what I was thinking about.

540 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:18:49pm

re: #536 Kenneth

Ho, ho, ho!

Please pass the brain bleach.

541 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:18:59pm

re: #521 ROPMA

If you have to use your home defense shotgun it is best if it looks like an old duck hunting gun.

That might make a marginal difference when facing a prosecutor or jury, but I go with the "better to be tried by 12..." wisdom. The problem with duck hunting guns for home defense is that they tend to have unwieldy, long barrels.

Besides, my Mossberg 590 is for "sport and target shooting", it says so right there on my license application!

542 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:19:06pm

re: #536 Kenneth

You have got to warn people about that kind of thing. Geez .. .

543 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:19:10pm

re: #536 Kenneth

Ho, ho, ho!

My eyes! My eyes!

How about a warning, man?

544 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:19:52pm

re: #535 loppyd

That sounds yummy!

I'm headed to Jackson, NH for a girls weekend...

That sounds like you are going to have a blast!

545 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:19:58pm
546 Viking6  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:20:19pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey


Juke, as in avoid during a run with the ball.

547 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:20:58pm

re: #536 Kenneth

Ho, ho, ho!

Eye bleach now!

548 vxbush  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:21:12pm

re: #535 loppyd

That sounds yummy!

I'm headed to Jackson, NH for a girls weekend...

Go, and have fun for me. I think I'll be pretty exhausted until at least the middle of the month.

549 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:21:18pm
550 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:21:40pm

re: #546 Viking6

Juke, as in avoid during a run with the ball.

Keep reading, Viking.

551 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:22:01pm

Fred Goldman finally has his moment.

It's the third clip down.

552 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:22:17pm

re: #521 ROPMA

If you have to use your home defense shotgun it is best if it looks like an old duck hunting gun. NOT black tactical. Use #4 buckshot-gives good goblin penetration without a lot of over penetration of walls.

use bird shot: less penetration beyond any target, and it lacks the inherent "evil" of any buckshot... *

same reason to make sure the gun is a dual use, so that you were just using your sporting weapon instead of lying in wait with murderous intent, using a weapon no reasonable person would ever think of owning.

*besides: at home defense ranges (5-7 yards max inside) the shot column is going to be almost completely undispersed, so it won't really matter what you use. even the wadding will hit them.

553 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:22:35pm

Testing ... testing ... testing

554 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:22:51pm

re: #535 loppyd

That sounds yummy!

I'm headed to Jackson, NH for a girls weekend...

That reminds me. What time am I supposed to be there, and which color g-string should I wear?

555 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:23:21pm

Speaking of FOOLS...O.J. got 15 years!
I know...
RACIST!

556 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:23:30pm

re: #553 yma o hyd

Testing ... testing ... testing

Oh No! I didn't bring a #2 pencil!

557 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:23:30pm

re: #535 loppyd

That sounds yummy!

I'm headed to Jackson, NH for a girls weekend...

Hi Loppy!

...OOOH...Can we come too?

558 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:23:47pm

re: #544 HoosierHoops

That sounds like you are going to have a blast!

We always have a great time - lots of laughs. Most of the "girls" have kids so this is huge for them.

559 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:24:31pm

re: #555 reloadingisnotahobby

Speaking of FOOLS...O.J. got 15 years!
I know...
RACIST!

How much of it must he serve?

560 vxbush  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:24:36pm

re: #558 loppyd

We always have a great time - lots of laughs. Most of the "girls" have kids so this is huge for them.

I'm hoping my sisters and I can get together in March, but we haven't said a word about it. I'm thinking I will need to remind them over the holidays.

561 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:24:48pm

re: #548 vxbush

Go, and have fun for me. I think I'll be pretty exhausted until at least the middle of the month.

I'll be exhausted when I get back that will make two of us!

562 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:25:13pm

re: #554 Ford_Prefect

That reminds me. What time am I supposed to be there, and which color g-string should I wear?

Anything besides Black or Red is just over indulgence

563 vxbush  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:25:23pm

re: #561 loppyd

I'll be exhausted when I get back that will make two of us!

LOL! Maybe you should turn the dial down a bit on the partying, then!

564 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:25:26pm

re: #552 redc1c4

use bird shot

Bird shot can be seriously slowed down by heavy clothing. I wouldn't go that light.

565 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:25:34pm

re: #554 Ford_Prefect

That reminds me. What time am I supposed to be there, and which color g-string should I wear?

LOL

The ladies would destroy you. :)

566 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:26:12pm

re: #556 HoosierHoops

Oh No! I didn't bring a #2 pencil!

'S not the pencil, its the rubber one needs!

567 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:26:13pm

re: #536 Kenneth

Ho, ho, ho!

You're naughty.

568 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:26:20pm

re: #559 MandyManners

I hope every F***ing minute!

569 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:26:23pm

Free OJ!

That sh*t was his!

570 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:26:26pm
571 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:26:42pm

re: #567 MandyManners

You're naughty.

LOL

572 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:26:46pm

re: #555 reloadingisnotahobby

Speaking of FOOLS...O.J. got 15 years!
I know...
RACIST!

15 years for armed robbery, nothing for multiple murder.

573 albusteve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:27:13pm

re: #564 Occasional Reader

Bird shot can be seriously slowed down by heavy clothing. I wouldn't go that light.

no shit... whats the point...00-0000 buck with a slug or two in there...home intrusion is serious business...imo

574 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:27:25pm

re: #563 vxbush

LOL! Maybe you should turn the dial down a bit on the partying, then!

I'm not a big drinker, but we always stay up way later than I am used to...

All I want to do tomorrow is sit in front of the fire, eat good food and watch the Alabama v. Florida game.

575 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:27:33pm

re: #549 Iron Fist

Part of that depends on the legal system where you are going to use the weapon. Around here, I wouldn't be particuarly worried about the looks of the weapon.

Or, just apply "RealTree" camo to your Barrett. "It's for hunting ducks, I swear! Enormous, predatory, armored ducks!"

576 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:27:52pm

re: #572 maddogg

15 years for armed robbery, nothing for multiple murder.

Its a bit like Al Capone - he got done for tax evasion ...

577 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:28:03pm

re: #569 Ben Hur

Free OJ!

That sh*t was his!

possession is nine tenths of the law...

578 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:28:13pm

re: #569 Ben Hur

Free OJ!

That sh*t was his!

Stolen?
Produce the police report !
Oh! I forgot...he don't like the "Man"!

579 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:28:25pm

Incoming Obama administration director of speechwriting Jon Favreau (L) and a friend pose with a cardboard cutout of incoming Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton at a party. (Obtained by The Washington Post)

That's when some interesting photos of a recent party he attended -- including one where he's dancing with a life-sized cardboard cut-out of secretary of state-designate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and another where he's placed his hand on the cardboard former first lady's chest while a friend is offering her lips a beer -- popped up on Facebook for about two hours. The photos were quickly taken down -- along with every other photo Favreau had of himself on the popular social networking site, save for one profile headshot.

Quite the diverse group.

Like The Jon Stewart Show.

580 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:28:38pm

re: #557 eschew_obfuscation

Hi Loppy!

...OOOH...Can we come too?

come on up!

581 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:28:51pm

re: #570 Iron Fist

Engraved guns should only be carried when you are in a tux or a low-cut ballroom gown.

Which of your guns do you usually wear with a ballroom gown?

582 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:29:07pm

re: #58 buzzsawmonkey

"So many guns around town and so few brains. You're the second guy I've met today who thinks a gat in the hand means the world by the tail. Put it up and don't be stupid, Joe."

--Philip Marlowe, in Raymond Chandler's "The Big Sleep"

I know I'm late to the game here, but I had had to add ~ GREAT movie! Loved Bogart and Bacall.

583 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:29:30pm

re: #559 MandyManners

How much of it must he serve?

at least 9, according to Patterico

584 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:29:39pm

re: #579 Ben Hur

I like this from the comments section:

LOL ! so you're telling me that all that soaring rhetoric that bamboozled millions into worshipping at the feet of the Great Leader was actually written by some over-the-hill frat punk ?!? now THAT'S funny !

585 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:11pm

re: #583 redc1c4

That'll make him what? 70+?

586 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:15pm
587 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:18pm

re: #556 HoosierHoops

Oh No! I didn't bring a #2 pencil!

Here I am, years out of college and I still have dreams that it's the day of the final and I haven't been to class all semester.

589 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:24pm

re: #562 HoosierHoops

Anything besides Black or Red is just over indulgence

Are you talking about g strings or this fine example of refreshment?
Johnny

590 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:30pm

(Well, I like my new av ... we do have giant carrots here in Wales!)

591 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:32pm
592 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:39pm
593 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:30:55pm

Don't drop the soap, OJ...

594 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:31:02pm

re: #527 Creeping Eruption

Hysterical

It is, isn't it?

595 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:31:27pm
596 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:31:30pm

UNC libraries to forgo Christmas trees

Chapel Hill library chief says staffers complained about the display

.

597 Viking6  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:31:46pm

re: #550 Ford_Prefect

Well that me, day late, dollar short and slow reader. However, I can contribute to the shotgun discussion and indeed validate that #4 shot generally does not penetrate plasterboard or drywall when fied in the direction of a fleeing felon.

598 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:31:46pm
599 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:31:54pm

re: #532 Erik The Red

Link for me Real I can't find it.

My #512.

600 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:32:18pm

re: #593 maddogg

I shudder to think of what jail will be like for OJ.

601 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:32:25pm
602 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:32:25pm

re: #598 gop_patriot

No way. that guy is toast.

603 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:32:27pm

re: #596 Ben Hur

UNC libraries to forgo Christmas trees

.

Staffers my barometer. I'm sure it was a staffer. Singular.

604 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:32:29pm

re: #591 Iron Fist

Multiple murder wasn't proven. The Prosecution was able to raise a strong suspicion, but nothing more. If OJ hadn't pulled that stupid stunt in his Bronco, I don't know that the Prosecution would have even gotten to "reasonable suspicion". They really were pretty pathetic.

Agreed, and the judge was worse. Truly a miscarriage of justice due to incompetence on multiple levels.

605 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:32:46pm

re: #599 Dianna

Thank you D.

606 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:32:56pm

re: #564 Occasional Reader

Bird shot can be seriously slowed down by heavy clothing. I wouldn't go that light.

this is Los Angeles in the PRC: what heavy clothing? besides, i specified interior ranges at 5-7 yards max. at that point it's still a solid mass of shot, not a cloud... and the biggest worry i have is not the crook, but the cops and the local DA, should i ever have to go there, not to mention the inevitable lawsuit from the family.

607 Zimriel  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:33:12pm

If OJ's housed anywhere near the lifers, some whiteboy making a name for himself will cut his throat in a week. Expect prison riots nationwide.

They'll have to keep OJ in his own personal pen.

608 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:33:32pm

Well,that was my drive by for today!
I'm off but had to retrieve some info off the puuter...
I could tell ya ...but then I'd have to...ah...Slap ya!
Ya , that's it !
Have a great weekend all!

609 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:33:38pm
610 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:33:54pm

re: #601 Iron Fist

I usually go with the mousegun. It goes with all my gowns.

You're shooting mice?

611 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:34:01pm

re: #602 Creeping Eruption

No way. that guy is toast.

You think so? I hope he is, anyway.

But Obama does have a way of tossing people under the bus, only to retrieve them later...

612 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:34:22pm
613 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:34:33pm

Well Lizards, another week comes to a close for me. Time to go pick up my daughter and head home for a weekend of 'honey do' chores. I hope everyone has a great and safe weekend. Keep laughing. Keep smiling. All of the worlds troubles will come and go, but one thing remains the same... Laughter is the best medicine.

614 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:34:51pm

re: #585 reloadingisnotahobby

That'll make him what? 70+?

i believe: details and links here.

615 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:34:58pm

re: #611 gop_patriot

You think so? I hope he is, anyway.

But Obama does have a way of tossing people under the bus, only to retrieve them later...

He seems to toss them under a "parked" bus.

616 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:35:04pm

re: #587 poopeedoo

Here I am, years out of college and I still have dreams that it's the day of the final and I haven't been to class all semester.

Or, that I don't have a blue book.

617 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:35:06pm

re: #603 loppyd


Let's refrain from using "staff" and "barometer" in the same post, shall we?

618 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:35:19pm

re: #600 poopeedoo

I shudder to think of what jail will be like for OJ.

It might not be so bad...3 squares, sex twice a week, whether he wants it or not...

/heres hoping he's Bubba's bitch by Christmas.

619 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:35:22pm
620 The Hoopster  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:35:35pm

re: #613 Ford_Prefect

Have a great weekend Ford..
/Ford..good people...lousy car

621 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:35:45pm

re: #613 Ford_Prefect

Well Lizards, another week comes to a close for me. Time to go pick up my daughter and head home for a weekend of 'honey do' chores. I hope everyone has a great and safe weekend. Keep laughing. Keep smiling. All of the worlds troubles will come and go, but one thing remains the same... Laughter is the best medicine.

Have a wonderful weekend yourself - and yes, laughter is the best medicine, be life ever so dark!

622 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:35:57pm

re: #613 Ford_Prefect

Drive safe Ford see you next week.

623 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:36:36pm

re: #611 gop_patriot

You think so? I hope he is, anyway.

But Obama does have a way of tossing people under the bus, only to retrieve them later...

Retrieval is possible, but to fuck with Hillary like that and not slap the punk down . . .not a good way to start. Speech writers are a dime a dozen.

624 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:37:09pm
625 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:37:12pm
626 Zimriel  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:37:47pm
627 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:38:08pm

re: #616 MandyManners

Or, that I don't have a blue book.

I'd accept a fatwa against "the blue book." That would be acceptable jihad.

628 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:38:32pm

re: #624 taxfreekiller

So, da ya thank Charlie Gibson of ABC will interview old Dinner Jacket about how Dinner Jacket feels about the price of oil headed for $30 bl.?

He won't be able to afford a new dinner jacket

629 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:38:42pm
630 Ben Hur  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:40:49pm

Why would it be surprising to ANYONE after the Left's anti-Woman attacks on Palin up and down the internet?!?!

631 WrathofG-d  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:40:55pm

re: #626 Zimriel

27 and heading the POTUS' speech writing, and you think his mother is ashamed that he was acting like a 27 year old?

I'm actually quite impressed.

632 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:41:18pm

re: #574 loppyd

I'm not a big drinker, but we always stay up way later than I am used to...

All I want to do tomorrow is sit in front of the fire, eat good food and watch the Alabama v. Florida game.

It's a pity they both can't lose.

633 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:42:35pm

It isn't often I laugh out loud when viewing YouTubes, but this one was funnier than hell. Wonder what excuse the NFL gives for his getting shot in a nightclub? And why the police weren't notified? Guess the nightclub owner has a few problems now.

634 ROPMA  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:44:10pm
635 yma o hyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:46:13pm

re: #625 Iron Fist

Mousegun = 5.56X45 NATO.

Thanks!
Living in a country where our right to bear arms has been taken away from us (even though its in our Bill of rights of 1689), all I know about guns is that one holds the one end, pulls a trigger, and a bullet comes out the other end ...

636 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:48:00pm

re: #581 Occasional Reader

Which of your guns do you usually wear with a ballroom gown?

I don't know about Iron Fist, but I think my Eclipse is perfectly appropriate with any outfit.

637 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:48:52pm

re: #587 poopeedoo

Here I am, years out of college and I still have dreams that it's the day of the final and I haven't been to class all semester.

That's not a nightmare.

That was my life.

638 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:49:21pm

re: #38 Claire

Plaxico? Did a chemical tank truck go by the window of the maternity ward right before his mother gave birth, or what?

There was a point guard who played on the Univ. of Memphis basketball team in the 80's whose name was Baskerville Holmes.

His idiot mother named him that because she went into labor while watching the movie "The Hound Of The Baskervilles".

But I guess it could have been worse- She could have named him Hound Holmes.
/

639 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:49:54pm

re: #605 Erik The Red

Thank you D.

Any time!

Check out Chiayya Chiayya, btw.

Merrily singing and dancing on top of a train. It just doesn't get better than that.

640 loppyd  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 12:50:14pm

re: #617 Ben Hur

Let's refrain from using "staff" and "barometer" in the same post, shall we?

EEEWWW

641 Darwin Akbar  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 1:15:26pm

As a die-hard Giants fan, I am sorry that Plaxico reverted to his true irresponsible self after playing hurt all last year and helping Big Blue win a championship. He's very lucky that he didn't kill himself or some other innocent bystander, but he still doesn't belong in the same Stupid Division as, say, Pacman Jones (let's see...combine an NFL player, a heavily-armed possee, $90,000 in cash, a bunch of Las Vegas strippers, some plastic garbage bags and a semi-automatic weapon...what could possibly go wrong?)

While there is no excuse for carrying unlicensed firearms, on ESPN radio yesterday, someone was recounting all of the NFL players that have been robbed or shot over the past few years which would account for why some players feel they have to pack heat. Last year, some player was robbed of $44000 in cash at gunpoint - but of course, who else but a professional athlete would walk around with $44000 in cash?

642 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 1:22:18pm

re: #641 Darwin Akbar

As a die-hard Giants fan, I am sorry that Plaxico reverted to his true irresponsible self after playing hurt all last year and helping Big Blue win a championship. He's very lucky that he didn't kill himself or some other innocent bystander, but he still doesn't belong in the same Stupid Division as, say, Pacman Jones (let's see...combine an NFL player, a heavily-armed posse, $90,000 in cash, a bunch of Las Vegas strippers, some plastic garbage bags and a semi-automatic weapon...what could possibly go wrong?)

That sounds like something only Hunter S. Thompson could dream up.
.

Plastic garbage bags?!?

643 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 1:54:40pm

I usually don't find gun jokes funny, but I loved the ending line.

And the moral of this story is, if you are going to carry a Glock with one in the pipe, use a holster... And if you're in New York... Don't.

644 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 2:08:26pm

LMAO!

645 FrogMarch  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 2:18:45pm

I feel bad for the guy. His career could be over because liberal New York is all uppity about guns. Liberal states demand that you not protect yourself.

646 Steve  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 3:35:31pm

He is an idiot.
He is also extremely lucky that the only person shot was himself.
At least that is the only thing he will have to carry around the rest of his life.

647 lusophile  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:01:48pm

How does a guy blow a gazillion dollar pro contract so foolishly?
This is the funniest yet!

648 Ron Shaw  Sat, Dec 6, 2008 6:58:23am

Dear Mr. Obama,

All the gun control in the world will not take guns from criminals intent on doing damage or idiots like Plex doing what idiots like Plex and OJ with money and guns tend to do. You cannot legislate everything and especially not intelligence or at least a sliver of common sense. Here is a task for you at your new job; as a start try disarming, aka Gun Control, the dudes in the NFL...the NBA...MLB and their entourages and while you are at it do not forget about the kids and un-gat or de-gun college athletes.

Not-a-Fan,

Me

649 memoryleak  Sat, Dec 6, 2008 7:14:05am

WORD, truly dope. Sorry, couldn't resist.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

^ back to top ^

Name:

Pass:

Register Forgot Your Password? Account Settings Re-send Confirmation (To log in, cookies must be enabled in your browser!)

Turn off ads by subscribing!
For about 33 cents a day, our subscription option turns off all advertisements at LGF!
Read more...


► LGF Headlines

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Articles

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Pages

  • Loading...

► Top 10 Comments

  • Loading...

► Bottom Comments

  • Loading...

► Recent Comments

  • Loading...

► Tools/Info

► LGF Hits

► Resources

► Never Forget

► Statistics

► Tag Cloud

► Contact

You must have Javascript enabled to use the contact form.
Your email:

Subject:

Message:


Messages may be published in our weblog, unless you request otherwise.
Tech Note:
Using the Contact Form

More Partners

Compare Electricity Prices in your area. Texas Electricity is deregulated; you have the right to choose Texas Electric Rates from among many Texas Electric Companies.

Totalitarian underpinnings optional.

TwitterFacebook
LGF Pages
Recent Pages

Bob Dillon
Chemist Applies Google Software to Molecules
4 minutes ago
Views: 3 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0

Daniel Ballard
Meme: What Photographers Actually Do
18 minutes ago
Views: 24 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0

Aigle
Judi Rudoren Enters the Scene: Tweets or Tea Leaves?
36 minutes ago
Views: 19 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0

Aigle
New Online Newspaper in Israel
37 minutes ago
Views: 24 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0

Daniel Ballard
The Boy Who Played With Fusion
1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Views: 78 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 2

wrenchwench
Mexico Issues Travel Warning for Los United Estates
1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Views: 76 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 1 • Rating: 1

Channeling Confucius
6 Terrifying User Agreements You've Probably Accepted
2 hours, 28 minutes ago
Views: 89 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1

Turnabout is Fair Play
The Muslim Brotherhood's Post-Mubarak Anti-Americanism
2 hours, 42 minutes ago
Views: 78 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1

MichaelJ
Daring Fireball: Walter Isaacson's 'Steve Jobs'
2 hours, 57 minutes ago
Views: 85 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0

Bob Dillon
Radiation Generates Cancer Stem Cells From Less Aggressive Breast Cancer Cells
4 hours, 20 minutes ago
Views: 84 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0

 Frank says:

The language and concepts contained herein are guaranteed not to cause eternal torment in the place where the guy with the horns and pointed stick conducts his business.