Holy Crap!

That is a first

What gives here?
Its not just Egypt, but other usual "bad actors" who are blaming Hamas.

Damn 10 seconds Jet.

hard not to when Hamas is knocking down your border which is itself an act of war...finally getting Egypt into the fray...nothing bad can come of it imo

This is interesting too, along the same lines:

[Link: www.thememriblog.org...]

In Response to Gaza Offensive, Syrian and Hamas Media Lambast Egypt, Saudi Arabia

The Syrian and Hamas media have responded to the Gaza attack with harsh criticism against Egypt and Saudi Arabia. An editorial in the Syrian website [Link: www.champress.net...] accused the Syrian and Saudi leaders of collaborating with Israel in the spilling of Palestinian blood. The Syrian government daily Teshreen stated in an editorial that "certain Arab leaders" regarded Israel as a strategic ally and were helping it to annihilate the resistance movements in Palestine and Lebanon. Associates of Hamas leader Mahmoud Al-Zahhar accused Egypt of collaborating with Israel in deceiving the Hamas in Gaza.

Sources: [Link: www.champress.net,...] December 27, 2008; Teshreen (Syria), December 28, 2008; Teshreen (Syria), December 28, 2008; Al-Quds Al-Arabi (London), December 27, 2008.

Flying pig alert

Reza was offended

I doubt any big actor in the region really wants another war they're destined to lose. They're all for egging the little guy on and funneling them money, but if it came down to real, war level blows, Gaza would be left with it's pants down, mooning the might of the Israel army all alone.

We need to see concrete actions and not just words from the other arab countries.

I saw the Israel Foreign Minister today on MTP. If I Ran the country I'd fly there right now and fire everybody.. Put her in Charge and move ahead with resolution. If I was Hamas and watched the interview this morning, I'd be nervous..

we need to see the IDF kick ass like 67 re: #9 Erik The Red

We need to see concrete actions and not just words from the other arab countries.

re: #9 Erik The Red

We need to see concrete actions and not just words from the other arab countries.

Agree, these words are meaningless.

Not really. Egypt hates Hamas and doesn't need any instability on its border, like all the rabble that just punched holes in it's fence with Egypt forcing the Egyptian police to fire on them. No lost love here. Never has been Never will be. Nothing new to see here, just keep moving please.

Some of these jokers are having second thoughts because they see world war three coming and they know they are going to lose.

They should have spoken up sooner.

Egypt can't let Gaza go (on paper)...Hamas is attempting to annex it. Simple, once the Egyptian government allows secession of a province what's to prevent another province from suddenly deciding what do we need Cairo for anyways. "Egypt" as we know it today is an artificial construct by agreement of the great powers (which included a nominally Islamic one) of the early 20th Century, as is all of Africa and the Middle East. Look at the other countries of Africa and that's what Egypt is afraid of becoming.

Obama will sort all of this out in January

/

What is this? Evidence of self preservation instincts!

Drudges Headline in big red letters is REVENGE. I think JUSTICE is more like it!

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

re: #16 Shug

Obama will sort all of this out in January

/

... meanwhile he's regretting having run for Pres and got this far.
I'm sure he'd prefer to be back in the Senate, where he'd be able to vote 'present', and his talks to the FMSM would have no actual consequences ...

FOX News

Palestinians breached the border fence with Egypt and hundreds poured across the frontier, prompting Egyptian guards to open fire, said officials and witnesses on both sides.

Because of course, the EGYPTIANS have no choice but to open fire on all Gazan's within their sights... but the if the Israeli's defend themselves. Well, thats just a massacre!

Whatever the Egyptian motives, this is very positive.
The less that Hamas feels that they are heroes in Islam & Arabia, the less their confidence & bravado.

Flying pig alert indeed, Now I think Ill have a bacon sandwich.

re: #19 yma o hyd

... meanwhile he's regretting having run for Pres and got this far.
I'm sure he'd prefer to be back in the Senate, where he'd be able to vote 'present', and his talks to the FMSM would have no actual consequences ...

Obama bristles as the bubble closes in on him

[Link: www.politico.com...]

This guy appears to have thin skin.

Meanwhile, the UN, the EU and others still blame Israel.

A related flying pig moment:

Meanwhile, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said on Sunday the Islamist group Hamas could have avoided the Israeli attacks on Gaza.

"We talked to them and we told them 'please, we ask you, do not end the truce. Let the truce continue and not stop' so that we could have avoided what happened," he said in Cairo.

Link...

re: #9 Erik The Red

You can write that down as one of your wishes for the new year. Unfortunately though, it will undoubtedly end up in the waste bin of previous year's unfulfilled hopes and dreams.

RoP in the UK...

Violent protests at Israeli Embassy in London

Violent confrontations broke out at the Israeli Embassy in London today as up to 1,500 protesters against Israel's Gaza campaign gathered in a vociferous demonstration.

Campaign supporters, Palestinians and British Muslims stood on the pavement of High Street Kensington, west London, and chanted in unison: “Five, six, seven, eight - Israel is a terror state.”

Riot police were brought in to control the crowd, some of whom turned violent. Witnesses said some protestors were forcibly removed and others were seen with bloodied faces as violence erupted.

One campaigner was seen throwing a bag and what appeared to be a book over some gates towards the embassy and another was seen throwing red liquid. Officers retreated from the immediate scene as the crowds swelled, and some appeared to be trying to break through barriers to access the embassy.
...
The member of staff, who did not want to be named, added: “There were only eight officers trying to contain a protest with about 500 demonstrators.

“They are trying to break down the barriers towards the Embassy and the police can do nothing about it.

“It has been handled terribly and now they are chasing to catch up a scene which is already out of control.”

re: #24 solergic

Meanwhile, the UN, the EU and others still blame Israel.

WHO?

BarakO...not ready for prime time...we've elected a little kid, a noephyte

[Link: www.politico.com...]

This tape will self-destruct in ten seconds ...

re: #16 Shug

Obama will sort all of this out in January

/

Yes, Egypt will be reprimanded for their lack of solidarity with Hamas, by the new Administration.

re: #29 albusteve

BarakO...not ready for prime time...we've elected a little kid, a noephyte

[Link: www.politico.com...]

What do you mean "WE" ?

re: #27 Killgore Trout

The most useless form of life on the planet is a British cop.

Kos kiddies show support for...Hamas.

Real Ways to Stand With the People of Gaza

I want to start by thanking Daisy Cutter for the excellent diary post yesterday. for those of you who were offended by that diary ... tough cookies. Don't bother reading this one. Go to ... um... another diary entry, or read the Sunday comics, or whatever. This will just upset you.

After reading the diary entry, i joined the Bay Area Women in Black(mostly but not entirely Jewish, not all women, and not always dressed in Black) who were doing their weekly vigil in Oakland. It was helpful to have the real human interaction with people who care about peace.

Now, for those of you who see the basic injustice of the Israeli massacre of men, women and children in Gaza,we have our work cut out for us. we must remember that the Israeli military used US-supplied F-16 fighter planes to carry out the war crimes, and we have a special responsibility to act and make our voices heard. Israel has promised/threatened that what we saw yesterday is "just the beginning". So what i would like to do here is present concrete ways we can stand with the people of Gaza in solidarity and work for a just peace all can enjoy and share...

I like the third comment...

You Forgot One (0+ / 0-)

Tell them to stop shooting rockets at innocent civilians in Israel.

That would make a big difference.

Heh.

re: #32 Nevergiveup

Sasquatch not vote for idiot

re: #17 rawmuse

What is this? Evidence of self preservation instincts!

Could be. There is quite a bit of resentment in Egypt toward the willingness of other Arab states to incite war with Israel, while Egypt has historically borne the brunt of actual combat. I was in Egypt when the Camp David Accords were signed in 1978. The treaty instantly met with furious condemnation and threats from the likes of Saudi Arabia. Egyptians wags commented, "Of course they are bellicose. Unlike us, they are willing to fight to the last Egyptian."

re: #26 gringo

You can write that down as one of your wishes for the new year. Unfortunately though, it will undoubtedly end up in the waste bin of previous year's unfulfilled hopes and dreams.

I don't make them. Can never live up to my own standards.

re: #27 Killgore Trout

RoP in the UK...

Violent protests at Israeli Embassy in London

I dunno, that chant is pretty persuasive. I need to think things over.

/s

I don't know about you all but France is back on my shitlist:

Paris - French President Nicolas Sarkozy accused Israel of using disproportionate violence in its attacks on the Gaza Strip Saturday. The bombardment must stop immediately, Sarkozy, whose country holds the rotating EU presidency, said in Paris.

Link...

re: #32 Nevergiveup

What do you mean "WE" ?

they?...them?...those guys over there?

re: #22 DEZes

Flying pig alert indeed, Now I think Ill have a bacon sandwich.

LOL DEZ...morning to ya!

re: #39 ornery elephant

I don't know about you all but France is back on my shitlist:

Link...

You gotta remember that Sarkozy's son married a Jewish girl so he had to even things out with some criticism of Israel. It's a European thing.

This guy doesn’t have long to live in this part of the world, he speaks the truth.

re: #39 ornery elephant

It's a disease.

Well, Egypt does have good reasons not to like Hamas.

They've invaded Egypt twice.

Once earlier this year, and again today.

re: #37 Erik The Red

Good answer.

re: #39 ornery elephant

I don't know about you all but France is back on my shitlist:

Link...

Hmmm, was the liberation of Paris disproportionate?

Let's not forget the last time that Egypt was invaded - in January.

Hamas is Syria. Egypt doesn't want a proxy invasion. There is a reason they keep the Gaza border closed. Syria is doing quite a bit of business with Russia. Hamas wanted an invasion. I don't know why. The fact that there is no real outcry worries me. The best thing about this action is that Israel did not give the usual suspects time to set the propaganda wheels in motion.

Encourage protests in your neighborhood. That way the authorities can find out who the players are.

Hmmm...so Hamas and their thuggish actions seem to be developing as a dividing factor within the Arab world.
Now THAT'S 'Change I can believe in'...

Blame, what blame? They love death. They have death. Have a cigarette and enjoy it.

re: #47 opnion

Hmmm, was the liberation of Paris disproportionate?

Maybe Sarkozy is more concerned that his brand new 2009 Audi is gonna get firebombed by "youts"

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

A suicide bomber has hit a government building in eastern Afghanistan, killing 16 people, 14 of them children, local police said.

See how the BBC has a pix of some guy standing there with a bandage on his face. No pix of those poor dead kids who will never grow up. They wouldn't want you to get too mad at the Taliban. Yet, in the Israeli op, which has a 94% success rate in limiting casualties to combatants, they use pictures like in this story..

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Here's Israel's 94% success in cutting civi casualties:

[Link: www.yourish.com...]

A whole lot of THANKS it gets!

re: #51 itellu3times

islam has a BIG BIG death wish.

Delenda.

I think it will come to that.

re: #23 Nevergiveup

Obama bristles as the bubble closes in on him

[Link: www.politico.com...]

This guy appears to have thin skin.

Oh, how my heart bleeds for him!

/He should've thought about this much much earlier, serves him right!

re: #52 ornery elephant

Maybe Sarkozy is more concerned that his brand new 2009 Audi is gonna get firebombed by "youts"

Yoots of unkown ethnic origin & vague religious affiliation.

re: #39 ornery elephant

I don't know about you all but France is back on my shitlist:

Link...

The last time I killed a bug, I used excessive force, The next time I kill a bug, I will again use excessive force.
The bugs can cry all they want about disproportionate violence, but you never half kill an enemy.

Iran leader orders Muslims to defend Palestinians

Iran's Supreme Leader issued a religious decree to Muslims around the world on Sunday, ordering them to defend Palestinians in Gaza against Israeli attacks "in any way possible", state television reported.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also declared Monday a day of public mourning in Iran after Israel killed more than 280 Palestinians in two days of air strikes on Gaza.

"All Palestinian combatants and all the Islamic world's pious people are obliged to defend the defenceless women, children and people in Gaza in any way possible," Khamenei said.

"Whoever is killed in this legitimate defence, is considered a martyr," he said in a statement.

/Islam sucks

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re: #19 yma o hyd

... meanwhile he's regretting having run for Pres and got this far.
I'm sure he'd prefer to be back in the Senate, where he'd be able to vote 'present', and his talks to the FMSM would have no actual consequences ...

He's already chafing at the bit -
He should remember not to bite the hand that feeds made him

Barack Bristles..

re: #54 Ojoe

islam has a BIG BIG death wish.

Delenda.

I think it will come to that.

They should all convert, to Christianity, Buddhism, secular humanism, almost anything would be an improvement.

re: #23 Nevergiveup

Obama bristles as the bubble closes in on him

[Link: www.politico.com...]

This guy appears to have thin skin.

Bet he will have a Sean Penn moment while in office. Waiting for him to take a swing at a reporter.

re: #58 Killian Bundy

Iran's Supreme Leader issued a religious decree to Muslims around the world on Sunday, ordering them to defend Palestinians in Gaza against Israeli attacks "in any way possible", state television reported.

This is a fuze, how long is it & what is on the other end?

re: #54 Ojoe

I think that needs to be amended to 'radical Islam has a death wish'. To categorize all Islamic people as carbon copies of Hamas/Hezbollah/Al Qaeda is both naive and tragic.

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Heh. Its the London Metropolitan Police - well in with NuLab and Gord's minions, rudderless right now as Boris got the former Chief of that outfit to resign ...

Three arrested at Israeli embassy protest

LONDON (AFP) — Police arrested three people after a demonstration outside the Israeli embassy in London over the bombardment of the Gaza Strip turned violent Sunday.

Traffic in Kensington district where the embassy is located was brought to a halt by hundreds of protesters -- organisers estimated 3,000, while police put the figure at 700.

Demonstrators waved Palestinian flags and placards, shouting in unison: "Israel is a terror state!"

At one point, barriers containing the demonstrators were torn down and riot police were deployed to restore order -- with several protesters forcibly removed.

As teams of police officers attempted to push protesters away from the embassy, some demonstrators attempted to retaliate by pushing back and throwing placards at police.

re: #61 itellu3times

I welcome any miracle

BBL

re: #64 BigMoo

I hear a roaring silence

re: #33 whiterasta

The most useless form of life on the planet is a British cop.

Oi!
Uncalled for.

Hum Turkey's PM called Israel's action a "crime against humanity". I guess when his country attacks Turkish rebels that is just a walk in the park? What a Putz ( and I don't mean the Met's new pitcher ). Oh and by the way the Turkish PM can go fuck himself.

re: #55 yma o hyd

Oh, how my heart bleeds for him!

/He should've thought about this much much earlier, serves him right!

How could he *not* expect to be followed day and night when he was followed constantly as a minor presidential contender? Silly man.

re: #62 swamprat

Bet he will have a Sean Penn moment while in office. Waiting for him to take a swing at a reporter.

That would be wonderful!
...sniff...sigh

re: #64 BigMoo

Besides I am speaking of a 'religion' not people per se.

re: #58 Killian Bundy

Iran leader orders Muslims to defend Palestinians

/Islam sucks

I'm glad they come out and say this outrageous blather...it works both ways

re: #68 Ojoe

Very sad.

re: #41 ornery elephant

LOL DEZ...morning to ya!

I thought I felt a heavy thud in the room, Morning to you my friend!

If Egypt is seriously turning against Hamas, perhaps we should come up with something other than a Flying PIG to award them.

/could be counter-productive

re: #66 NJDhockeyfan

Three arrested at Israeli embassy protest

I'm not looking forward to hearing about the Toronto protests...

Scheduled for 2pm at the Israeli Consulate on Bloor. No less than 13 different anti-Israeli or Palestinian organizations are sponsoring it.

*Here's to hoping it remains contained and calm.

re: #70 Nevergiveup

Well Turkey should know...ask any Armenian.

re: #60 summergurl

He's already chafing at the bit -
He should remember not to bite the hand that feeds made him

Barack Bristles..

he's a spoiled brat wanabe elitist and eventually someone will bitchslap him senseless

re: #69 yma o hyd

Ok, then the second most useless form of life on the planet is ...

Come on they are worse than useless. Infected with raging PCism.

re: #80 albusteve

he's a spoiled brat wanabe elitist and eventually someone will bitchslap him senseless

Yes, but his wife already has that job.

/I did not just type that

re: #79 dmandman

Well Turkey should know...ask any Armenian.

That is a great point. Thank you for pointing that out.

This is the most ancient emnity of the mideast kicking in. Arabs vs. Iranians, Persians vs. the Arabs, Shia vs Sunni.

Heads are turning and worries are mounting now that it seems Iran will get the bomb without a bombing first, and now that they've moved units to enact the Straits of Hormuz gambit again.

re: #79 dmandman

Well Turkey should know...ask any Armenian.

or Kurd

re: #73 Ojoe

I can't buy that either. If you're intent is to take shots at organized religions, that's fine and your right. My family is Lutheran, but can still recognize that MANY cruelties have been committed throughout history in the 'name of religion' (Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, 9/11 etc...). I submit it ain't the religion, it's the radicals/nutjobs/zealots who bastardize it/them.

re: #58 Killian Bundy

Iran's Supreme Leader issued a religious decree to Muslims around the world on Sunday, ordering them to defend Palestinians in Gaza against Israeli attacks "in any way possible", state television reported.

Inhuman shields is at the top of my list.

It's is getting harder to ignore/excuse the fault of the Palestinians (Hamas in particular) by the international media and foreign leaders in this matter.

More and more people are starting to think to themselves "It seems like Israel only attacks Gaza after they fire dozens of rockets into Israel. It seems that their misery is brought on by their own violent actions."

duh

Artillery batteries deployed along border with Gaza Strip

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Kinda like daring Hamas?

The Egyptian Foreign Minister had a great quote the other day in regards to the events:

"Israel needs to educate the Hamas leadership".

I like that. Quite an education.

re: #84 Thanos

This is the most ancient emnity of the mideast kicking in. Arabs vs. Iranians, Persians vs. the Arabs, Shia vs Sunni.

Heads are turning and worries are mounting now that it seems Iran will get the bomb without a bombing first, and now that they've moved units to enact the Straits of Hormuz gambit again.

I think this is largely what is causing the unusual phenomenon of partially-balanced reporting this time around.

If the Arab states other factions involved had been more unified in their condemnation of Israel, and had the Gordon Brown of the UK and other US spokesmen not been as clear in their assigning blame to Hamas... well, let's just say I think it'd be 2006 all over again.

There are some indications that the Israeli's actually contacted the Egyptians ahead of time and warned them that this might happen -- which, if true, is mighty impressive if you ask me.

So: has Obama come out with a statement against Hamas? Anyone have a pointers to his position, or did he say, "just let me eat my waffle enjoy my waves"?

re: #90 Sizzlack

'Educate'...like when my dad 'educated me' for taking his car w/o permission when I was 15. Lesson LEARNED.

re: #92 vxbush

So: has Obama come out with a statement against Hamas? Anyone have a pointers to his position, or did he say, "just let me eat my waffle enjoy my waves"?

Last I read, it was "there is only one president at a time --- but I'm keeping tabs on what is going on!"

A Christmas miracle!

re: #92 vxbush

So: has Obama come out with a statement against Hamas? Anyone have a pointers to his position, or did he say, "just let me eat my waffle enjoy my waves"?

all three statements were presented to him yesterday

I've been watching AL Jazeera...who used to be surprisingly neutral, but are now like Radio Germany during WW2...but Hamas supporters have all been demonising Egypt alongside Israel & the US

re: #92 vxbush

So: has Obama come out with a statement against Hamas? Anyone have a pointers to his position, or did he say, "just let me eat my waffle enjoy my waves"?

Obambi has been as quiet as a mouse fart.

re: #59 anat

Lizards, if you want to help Israel please register at BBC HYS and on this thread hit the "recommend" button for the appropriate comments. The one at that moment at the top must absolutely be overtaken.
Thanks.

Yep - but do hold your nose when coming across the usual antisemitic rants.
Unfortunately, down-dinging is not an option on that site!

re: #89 Nevergiveup

Artillery batteries deployed along border with Gaza Strip

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Kinda like daring Hamas?

From the article: "Palestinians said aircraft targeted a mosque near Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, destroying it. Two bodies were retrieved from the rubble. The army said the mosque was a base for terrorist activities."

I don't doubt it. I've read that al-Shifa Hospital itself was used as Hamas' HQ during the 2006 takeover.

re: #98 DEZes

Obambi has been as quiet as a mouse fart.

too bad that won't last for the next 4 years

re: #81 whiterasta

Ok, then the second most useless form of life on the planet is ...

Come on they are worse than useless. Infected with raging PCism.

Not to disagree. Do you live in the UK or are you looking from the outside. The British have made their choice and must live with it.

I'm not sure who compiled this little collection of Gaza photos, but it sure is interesting.

re: #64 BigMoo

I think that needs to be amended to 'radical Islam has a death wish'. To categorize all Islamic people as carbon copies of Hamas/Hezbollah/Al Qaeda is both naive and tragic.

Please explain to me how I am supposed to know the difference, person does not attend a radical mosque or just does not believe what he has heard the last 20 years (ala obambi), person stands and says that they denounce terrorism, then goes to mosque to attend a service and pray for the 19 HERO'S of 9/11. Pray tell friend how to differentiate.

re: #91 Joo-LiZ

Yes, I chalk some of it up to that, and some of it up to the fact that the left is now in power in the US, they own the results ; and even though they will still try to blame Bush, they won't be able to make that stick after January.

re: #92 vxbush

So: has Obama come out with a statement against Hamas?

Yep, the standard, pass the buck "we only have one President at a time" crap.

/and then he went back to eating his waffle

re: #77 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Soaring sphinx?

Flying pharoah?

re: #100 pre-Boomer Marine brat

From the article: "Palestinians said aircraft targeted a mosque near Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, destroying it. Two bodies were retrieved from the rubble. The army said the mosque was a base for terrorist activities."

I don't doubt it. I've read that al-Shifa Hospital itself was used as Hamas' HQ during the 2006 takeover.

Just like the terrorist did to us in Iraq also. They all use the same terrorist training Manuel.

Protesters in Madrid wave Swastikas...
Yahoo Pic

Another one here

re: #59 anat

Lizards, if you want to help Israel please register at BBC HYS and on this thread hit the "recommend" button for the appropriate comments. The one at that moment at the top must absolutely be overtaken.
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I just did so, but comments are fully moderated. Here's the message:

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I wish I'd saved my comment.

Saudis calling for freedom from the muttawah and Egyptians condemning Hamas. Next maybe we'll see Baby Doc Assad running for his life. I give the credit to Bush for lancing the boil of the myth of totalitarian invincibility.

re: #102 Erik The Red

No, but I go over there on business quite often and yes the cops there are as useless as tits on a boar-hog.

re: #101 CynicalConservative

Ehen he does speak, we will have to um, endure um, alot of um, UMS.

There was a lovely moment on Al Jazeera.

They were interviewing an Israeli minister who, responding to one of the obnoxious interviewer's nasty questions, said "Well here's a truth that you wouldn't dare broadcast on Al Jazeera, but I'll take the opportunity to say it for you: Hamas are deeply unpopular throught the Arab world because they get in the way of peace".

The interviewer was white with anger.

re: #106 Killian Bundy

Yep, the standard, pass the buck "we only have one President at a time" crap.

/and then he went back to eating his waffle

Did he put his shirt back on?

re: #84 Thanos

This is the most ancient emnity of the mideast kicking in. Arabs vs. Iranians, Persians vs. the Arabs, Shia vs Sunni.

Heads are turning and worries are mounting now that it seems Iran will get the bomb without a bombing first, and now that they've moved units to enact the Straits of Hormuz gambit again.

Oh pleeze let them do it!

re: #45 lawhawk

Well, Egypt does have good reasons not to like Hamas.

They've invaded Egypt twice.

Once earlier this year, and again today.

Cleaned them completely out of cigarettes, plasma TV's, and virgin goats.

re: #113 DEZes

Ehen he does speak, we will have to um, endure um, alot of um, UMS.

Sooo True!

re: #106 Killian Bundy

Yep, the standard, pass the buck "we only have one President at a time" crap.

/and then he went back to eating his waffle

Well, I can't disagree with his position there. I would have preferred a more steady "I support the current position that President Bush has given", but acknowledging that Bush is still president is a good thing.

re: #110 goddessoftheclassroom

I wish I'd saved my comment.

Oh, the wonders of the "Back" button! Here's what I posted at the BBC "Have Your Say" site

Hamas broke the truce. Such an action is a de facto declaration of war. That Israel is taking Hamas at its word (or actions) and responding accordingly is in keeping with all traditional protocols of hostilities. To the victors go the spoils, even when they didn't start the violence but finished it.

re: #90 Sizzlack

The Egyptian Foreign Minister had a great quote the other day in regards to the events:

"Israel needs to educate the Hamas leadership".

I like that. Quite an education.

And nothing educates people like high explosives!

re: #103 anat

I'm not sure who compiled this little collection of Gaza photos, but it sure is interesting.

And if you notice they are all pointing with their left arms? The Nazis saluted with their right hand. Nor sure what that means?

re: #81 whiterasta

Ok, then the second most useless form of life on the planet is ...

Come on they are worse than useless. Infected with raging PCism.

The politically appointed top brass certainly is - but the ordinary copper (of which there still are a few) is strangled by red tape (thank you, NuLab).
When called upon, these middle- and bottom-level cops do a pretty damn good job.

re: #113 DEZes

Ehen he does speak, we will have to um, endure um, alot of um, UMS.

When/ PIMF.

re: #108 Nevergiveup

Just like the terrorist did to us in Iraq also. They all use the same terrorist training Manuel.

drop the pretense and take down all mosques...it's the natural course of events...SA can rebuild them newer and better if they see fit...win, win...

re: #74 albusteve
And it also presumes that all Muslims will do what the Persian leader says.
A great awakening is what I'd call it, given the hordes of Muslims who are ignoring that "order".

Al Jazeera is backing Hamas. One of the few organisations to do so.

Them, Iran, Jimmy Carter and Azzam Tamimi

“Five, six, seven, eight - Israel is a terror state.”

"One, two, three, four - Hamas is a terror whore."

re: #125 albusteve

drop the pretense and take down all mosques...it's the natural course of events...SA can rebuild them newer and better if they see fit...win, win...

Not unless the price of a barrel of oil goes up?
/

re: #123 yma o hyd

When called uopn to harras little old ladies for having porcelain pigs in their window, they do an outstanding job.

re: #107 itellu3times

Soaring sphinx?
Flying pharoah?

I was thinking something more Muslim-generic -- not specifically Egyptian.

Something to do with a camel?
(a camel with wings?)
(a camel with a JATO bottle up its ... naw ... probably not)

re: #127 uptight

Al Jazeera is backing Hamas. One of the few organisations to do so.

Them, Iran, Jimmy Carter and Azzam Tamimi

And CAIR. Of course.

Cox and Firkum - come out of retirement - you are needed

Gosh, France would accuse Israel of using disproportionate force just for using an F-16 to take out the missile launch sites.

I'm sad about the collateral damage. I really am. However, anyone who uses characters such as Farfur Mouse on their government television broadcasts to the masses can't expect much sympathy. This is cultural suicide. Raise a bunch of kids to think that it's their purpose in life to kill others and then cry when they shoot at you. They'll try to blame the Israelis for it, just like the idiots at Waco blamed the Feds for setting fire to their own ranch.

Yeah, in a perfect world, the Israelis would hit every target with perfect precision. But war is the result of an imperfect world and they unfortunately will reap what they have sown. Israel should show them no mercy. They haven't shown any to Israel so far.

Good Riddance to them all.

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Smoking camel?

re: #132 rightymouse

And CAIR. Of course.

And the ISM

I always thought that the Jews should have an ISM...if only for the acronym

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Protesters in Madrid wave Swastikas...
Yahoo Pic

Another one here

Cute!

re: #110 goddessoftheclassroom

You can still upding - 'recommend' the contributions of others, though.

Virtual 'flying squads' of moonbats&'jihadists' do it all the time ...

re: #104 VegasRick

That's the problem-you ain't gonna know very easily and it's up to our law enforcement and intel agencies to do that. But to take an entire defined group of people and label them as it sounds you'd like to is very much like what the US did to natural born Japanese Americans post-Pearl Harbor and dare I say...Hitler with the Jews...
Just in case you think I'm 'soft' on this subject, I've got a son deployed in Afghanistan (3rd BCT) and am retired LE.

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Any similarity to a any human organization is strictly intentional on my part.

MWAH!

re: #134 blangwort

I'm sad about the collateral damage. I really am.

Yes, me too, I advocate much more of it. Seriously. Perhaps precision-guided munitions should be illegal. Anything within a kilometer of a valid target, should be forfit. War should be ugly. War is collective. That is all.

re: #110 goddessoftheclassroom

It sure isn't easy to get a comment published on BBC HYS, but if your're registered you can ding up those comments you agree with. It's quite a fight on BBC HYS, which has zillions of readers. This is why it's worth it even if your own comment does not get published.
The relevant thread is here.

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Protesters in Madrid wave Swastikas...
Yahoo Pic

obviously a shortage of Kotex in Madrid

re: #110 goddessoftheclassroom

Christmas Dinner -- Problem #27

re: #58 Killian Bundy
Ah, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has spoken.
And what's new?
He's ready to fight Israel with the last drop of someone else's blood...agin.
Kleptocrats don't even take care of their own rabble.
They won't ''share the wealth'' to help the ''n-words" of Islam.

re: #135 itellu3times

Smoking camel?

LOL!

re: #144 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Christmas Dinner -- Problem #27

Okay, this is indeed a Christmas miracle: I would adopt that dog if I had a chance! TOO CUTE!

re: #140 goddessoftheclassroom

Any similarity to a any human organization is strictly intentional on my part.

MWAH!

Heh...

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Protesters in Madrid wave Swastikas...
Yahoo Pic

Another one here

I don't get it, are they for it or against it?

/presume it equates Israel with Nazis but it isn't clear

re: #136 uptight

And the ISM

I always thought that the Jews should have an ISM...if only for the acronym

And then there's the UN.

re: #140 goddessoftheclassroom

Any similarity to a any human organization is strictly intentional on my part.

MWAH!

OUCH!

MWAH!

re: #150 rightymouse

And then there's the UN.

JUN?

That doesn't work

re: #130 WhiteRasta

When called uopn to harras little old ladies for having porcelain pigs in their window, they do an outstanding job.

When catching a murdering young thug, protected by a wall of silence because of his 'gang', they do catch him, in exemplary fashion, and get him convicted.

When a mother 'kidnaps' her own child, i.e. has her hidden by the uncle of a former lover, in order to 'earn' 50 thousand quid, they get her, and get her convicted.

I'm not denying that there are some more that obnoxious coppers, especially in the higher ranks - but I'm blydi well going to defend the good ones against sweeping vituperation!

oh - yeah - the UN, too

re: #143 uptight

obviously a shortage of Kotex in Madrid

**WHACK**

/channeling Mandy

re: #137 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Cute!

Never seen a Muslim with their mouth closed. I wonder if they are buried with their mouth wired open so they can protest for eternity.

re: #156 AuntAcid

Never seen a Muslim with their mouth closed. I wonder if they are buried with their mouth wired open so they can protest for eternity.

LOL!

re: #86 BigMoo

It is the religion IMHO. The koran does not have the 10 commandments for instance, and other religions have their fanatics. It is the 21st century and we all have had the same amount of time to become sane.

re: #156 AuntAcid

Never seen a Muslim with their mouth closed. I wonder if they are buried with their mouth wired open so they can protest for eternity.

I don't think I've heard a news item with the word "Muslim" but without the word "offended"

even allah can't make the egyptians align w/ these savages.
islam can't compel an alliance w/ such scum who no one respects, just uses until they become more trouble than they are worth.
vermin.

Swear, heard that on the radio earlier today. I knew I had obviously misunderstood. Guess not.

LIB

re: #30 Blackacre

This tape will self-destruct in ten seconds ...

Not on my shift it wont.

Easy to understand really. Egypt has been on the recieving end of Israeli butt kickings and has agood memory.

"All Palestinian combatants and all the Islamic world's pious people are obliged to defend the defenceless women, children and people in Gaza in any way possible," Khamenei said.

Since when is he concerned about the welfare of women?

Encouraging. When will they open up their borders?

Check out the IAF strike videos that are starting to pop up. They are getting some serious secondaries on the targets they are hitting.

One bomb making ten explosions = weapons dump!

re: #20 Joo-LiZ

indeed :s

Wait... WHAT?!

re: #92 vxbush

So: has Obama come out with a statement against Hamas? Anyone have a pointers to his position, or did he say, "just let me eat my waffle enjoy my waves"?

"US president-elect Barack Obama is "monitoring" the deadly violence in the Gaza strip and spoke to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice about the situation, his aides said Saturday.

Anderson however emphasized that "there is one president at a time," a statement Obama has said often since he was elected on November 4.

Obama also spoke by phone with Rice for about eight minutes and "discussed the situations in Gaza and in South Asia," said an aide, speaking on condition of anonymity.

In a July interview with The New York Times, Obama said he didn't think that "any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens," in reference to rockets fired from Gaza into Israel.

"If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that," Obama said. "And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing."

As for talking with Hamas, the Islamist movement in control of Gaza, Obama said in the interview that it was "very hard to negotiate with a group that is not representative of a nation state, does not recognize your right to exist, has consistently used terror as a weapon, and is deeply influenced by other countries."

While it's probably a good thing, the fact is I don't think anyone wants to deal with real palestinians, they just use them in the abstract. it's called NIMBY-they always want them else where, and do not have the room or will to deal with them. I hope this can be resolved, and I pray it will be, but I am starting to give up on that part of the world.

re: #9 Erik The Red

We need to see concrete actions and not just words from the other arab countries.

I will settle for words.
These clowns have been on the wrong side for generations.
Give them the opportunity to speak ...
and at a later time act.

re: #54 Ojoe

islam has a BIG BIG death wish.

Delenda.

I think it will come to that.

It's thoughts like that that keep me warm at night
//

Mrs. Spiffy keeps yelling at me "What are you doing ? You just sit at your computer and do nothing!"
I have tried to explain to her that life is a learning process, that one does what he can,...
The nightmare scenario of 1/3 of the Earth's population having to be destroyed is a dark vision, but unassailable truth , unless something can be done to fix the problem.
That is the reason I am a lizard.
I am a raindrop on a mountain, which will someday be a beach.

re: #77 pre-Boomer Marine brat

but "flying goat" might give the wrong impression...