Video: IAF Strikes on Tunnels, Launching Sites, Hamas HQ

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Video • Mon Dec 29, 2008 at 11:49 am PST • Views: 236

Here’s some IAF footage showing airstrikes on smuggling tunnels and rocket launching sites, including the destruction of Hamas’ fancy headquarters building.

(Hat tip: Killgore.)

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1 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:50:00am

Wow!

2 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:51:21am

Go Intel !
Surgical strikes!

3 bosforus  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:51:53am
airstrikes on smuggling tunnels and rocket launching sites

Hey, we were using those!

4 baconeatingkaffir  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:52:32am

Thatswhat I call urban renewal!

5 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:53:39am

Does anyone have an approximate idea of the number of rockets that were fired into Israel from Gaza during the Phony Ceasefire?

6 trailortrash  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:54:01am

nice, all those secondary explosions = win

7 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:54:54am

Not a good day to be a bad guy.

8 bosforus  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:54:57am

Take notes Hamas, now that's how you fire a rocket.

9 faraway  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:55:01am

Not a bad idea to corral all of Hamas into Gaza and then blow the crap out of them.

Well done.

10 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:55:08am

Who named it the "Philadelphia Corridorl"? Talk about an oxymoron!

11 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:55:10am

re: #4 baconeatingkaffir

Thatswhat I call urban renewal!

That's what I call just and gracious!

12 Racer X  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:55:28am

Photoshop!

/moonbats

13 jwb7605  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:55:30am

re: #5 Leonidas Hoplite

Does anyone have an approximate idea of the number of rockets that were fired into Israel from Gaza during the Phony Ceasefire?

I've heard estimates of 3000 plus over a two-year period.
During the phony cease-fire, about ten per day.

14 Quilly Mammoth  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:55:46am

The secondaries are proof of the real use of the tunnels. Not that anyone in the MSM will point that out, or show that sequence.

15 Dianna  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:56:46am

re: #14 Quilly Mammoth

The secondaries are proof of the real use of the tunnels. Not that anyone in the MSM will point that out, or show that sequence.

We can keep linking it and sending it to them. If nothing else, it will annoy them.

16 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:57:07am

CIVILIAN Tunnels.
CIVILIAN Launching Sites.
CIVILIAN Hamas HQ.

(BTW- Liveleak is filled with more anti-Semitic posters like Red Pill from New Zealand - yes, the irony is killing me, too-and commentors than any other video website.)

17 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:57:23am

Was that a secondary explosion when the Hamas HQ went up, or just a second SDB hitting the target? Can't quite tell.

18 The Hoopster  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:57:31am

Wow! I didn't know powdered milk could cause such powerful secondary explosions.

19 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:57:31am

"Israel, F**k Yeah!"

20 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:57:50am

re: #10 MandyManners

Who named it the "Philadelphia Corridorl"? Talk about an oxymoron!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

21 quickjustice  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:58:34am

I'm still amazed by this precision strike technology. Before the days of smart bombs, you just carpet bombed the target with dumb bombs.

Sad to say, depopulation of Gaza may become necessary if its rulers can't stop attacks on Israel. The Egyptian aren't exactly eager to accept these hard-boiled terrorist eggs.

22 Earick  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:58:37am

Just close the damn border!
No food, no water, no medical supplies!
Let Arabs take care of Arabs!
Yea, right!

23 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:58:38am

re: #13 jwb7605

3,000 fired in 2008 total. Approximately 10 per day during the six month hudna. You never went more than a week without the terrorists firing off kassams or mortars. Heck, the hudna barely lasted a week before the terrorists got busy firing the kassams and mortars.

24 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:58:47am

Just don't tell anyone that the Europeans were responsible for the Philadelphi Corridor.

Just like in S Lebanon, the tunnels, weapons, etc, increased incredibly.

25 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:58:52am

re: #14 Quilly Mammoth

The secondaries are proof of the real use of the tunnels. Not that anyone in the MSM will point that out, or show that sequence.

That would be to much like work for the MSM

26 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:58:56am

re: #13 jwb7605

I've heard estimates of 3000 plus over a two-year period.
During the phony cease-fire, about ten per day.

Funny how that doesn't seem to come out in all the MSM coverage, rr should I say Fauxny Coverage? of the whole situation. I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

27 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:59:22am

Thats what I call precision bombing!

Heh - growing rockets in greenhouses, were they? No wonder there's no food.

Oh - and that Hamas headquarter?
How does that square with Gaza being one big refuge camp?

28 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:59:25am

re: #14 Quilly Mammoth

The secondaries are proof of the real use of the tunnels. Not that anyone in the MSM will point that out, or show that sequence.

What other use would there be for such a tunnel anyway?

29 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:59:41am

(ot: Jason Lewis guest hosting Rush's show - and he is kicking ass)

30 faraway  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 11:59:56am

Gaza needs a bailout.

31 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:00:20pm

Peace Through Superior Fire Power.
It is a lesson to be learned over and over and over and over...

32 chicagodudewhotrades  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:00:21pm

Anybody else think Israel is securing it's flanks and cutting down on the bad guys before they hit Iran? Reports say that this current Gaza Op was planned for six months. One doesn't spend this much time planning/intel gathering if this was just a 1-off strike. This will be sustained for a while before the Iran strikes. Something big is around the corner...

33 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:00:22pm

re: #28 unrealizedviewpoint

What other use would there be for such a tunnel anyway?

Baby Milk Factory, no wait that one's been done.

34 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:01:00pm
Aerial strike on missile storage site disguised as greenhouses.

They can't even fake it well.

35 jhn1  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:01:24pm

Too bad they won't use some rapid degradation poison in the tunnels, sort of like Raid fumigator for terrorists.
(if it didn't degrade the poisons would be scraped out and used against Israel).

36 faraway  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:01:46pm

Why doesn't Hezbollah come to Hamas' rescue?

37 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:01:49pm

re: #34 Ben Hur

They can't even fake it well.

Can't you see through greenhouses?

Brilliant!

38 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:01:58pm

re: #30 faraway

Gaza needs a bailout.

Don't say that! Please. ;)

39 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:02:10pm

re: #32 chicagodudewhotrades

Anybody else think Israel is securing it's flanks and cutting down on the bad guys before they hit Iran? Reports say that this current Gaza Op was planned for six months. One doesn't spend this much time planning/intel gathering if this was just a 1-off strike. This will be sustained for a while before the Iran strikes. Something big is around the corner...

One step at a time.. one threat at a time...

40 mjwsatx  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:02:19pm

from al-Reuters yesterday:

Israel expanded its air campaign to the southern Gaza Strip, bombing some 40 smuggling tunnels running under the border with Egypt, a network that is a lifeline to the outside world.

41 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:02:30pm

re: #15 Dianna

We can keep linking it and sending it to them. If nothing else, it will annoy them.

Yeah, it is not like any of them have a conscience!

42 Cicero05  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:02:32pm

Looks like Israel is delivering much-needed supplies of high explosive to the suffering Gaza Palestinians. And darn precisely, too.

43 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:03:05pm

No, no bias here. Just leave out all the parts where the Arabs sought Israel's destruction from 1947 onwards; the part where the Arabs blockaded the Strait of Tiran; the attacks on Israel leading up to 1967; the 1970 war of attrition; the incessant terrorist attacks by Hizbullah; Hamas; PLO; AAMB; etc. all with the wink and nod of their terror masters in Damascus, Tehran, Beirut, Jordan, Egypt, etc.

Let's also forget the more recent history - of the past six months:

In June 2008, Hamas and Israel agreed, indirectly via Egyptian mediation, to a cease-fire to halt missiles being fired into Israel and stop Israeli incursions into Gaza. The cease-fire lapsed less than a week before Israel's massive crackdown.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad violated the ceasefire from the outset, carrying out kassam and mortar attacks almost every day of the past six months. There was no cease-fire; it was a hudna, and only Israel was consigned to cease firing. Hamas and Islamic Jihad continued their firing with no/minimal reporting by MSNBC or other media outlets.

44 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:03:48pm

re: #36 faraway

Why doesn't Hezbollah come to Hamas' rescue?

Wait; Hizbullah is looking to see whether they can open a second front, and Iran isn't quite sure what they will gain from launching a second front.

45 Sceptic Tank  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:04:02pm

A slowdown of weapons and drugs brought into Arab-occupied territories will not cease until the leaders are eliminated but this slow down is spot on.

46 Racer X  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:04:28pm

re: #42 Cicero05

Looks like Israel is delivering much-needed supplies of high explosive to the suffering Gaza Palestinians. And darn precisely, too.

This aid should continue until the palestinians wave the white flag and accept that they have been defeated (ever since 1948).

47 Maximu§  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:04:41pm

Aerial Strike on Hamas Headquarters

Music to my ears and perhaps the Hamas Fools wouldn't be so hungry if they used those green houses to grow food instead of storing weapons.

48 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:04:47pm

The Qassams they launched at Ashkelon and Sderot didn't have the precision that these missiles have. That is what separates us from them. Even when we retaliate, we take every caution to protect the innocent. They just lob rockets indiscriminately over the fence.

Filthy pigs...*spit*

49 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:05:01pm

re: #32 chicagodudewhotrades

Anybody else think Israel is securing it's flanks and cutting down on the bad guys before they hit Iran? Reports say that this current Gaza Op was planned for six months. One doesn't spend this much time planning/intel gathering if this was just a 1-off strike. This will be sustained for a while before the Iran strikes. Something big is around the corner...

Yeah, I've heard that and read that elsewhere as well.

I'd tend to agree -- this is definitely an operation to clean up their back yard so they don't have to worry about it next time they turn to the north. Whether it be the Hezbos, Syrians, or Iranians.

50 albusteve  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:05:41pm

re: #30 faraway

Gaza needs a bailout.

exactly!...get things sorted out and start making money

51 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:05:42pm

Bingo! I believe that the last shot of the hit on the "missile greenhouse" was the site of the funny looking photo we were discussing last night.

52 faraway  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:06:03pm

re: #46 Racer X

This aid should continue until the palestinians wave the white flag and accept that they have been defeated (ever since 1948).

Israel should sue for "unconditional surrender" and hold the signing ceremonies aboard the good ship "Dignity". Peace at last.

53 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:06:05pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Wait; Hizbullah is looking to see whether they can open a second front, and Iran isn't quite sure what they will gain from launching a second front.

Iran is holding hizbALLAH back for when Israel hits their nuke facilities.

And get a load of this from the Carter piece:

In the afternoon Bob, Hrair, and I met with Khaled Mashaal and his fellow Hamas politburo members, all of whom are scientists, medical doctors, or engineers – none trained in religion.

Does this idiot even know what HAMAS means in English?!?

54 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:06:21pm

"There's no food in the market" because everything is a disguise for Hamas' weapons storage.

55 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:07:00pm
56 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:07:15pm

Just thinking out loud...

...instead of letting Bernie Madoff hang out in his apartment, can we send him to Gaza to help Hamas with their financial planning? Win-win solution?

57 baconeatingkaffir  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:07:34pm

I just noticed in one of the newscasts that alot of the palis have cell phones. I think if the cellphone service and somehow tv were knocked out there... it would definitely cause more of a discomfort than the bombing.

58 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:07:53pm

re: #53 Ben Hur

Does this idiot even know what HAMAS means in English?!?

I don't think he cares. It would get in the way of his moronic diplomatic efforts, which only serve to bolster the terrorists and their terror masters.

59 WitchDoctor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:08:20pm

re: #27 yma o hyd

I often wonder how many people still think the Palestinians all live in tent cities the poor dears.

60 Kragar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:08:49pm

OH NO! NOT THE TUNNELS! HOW WILL THEY GET MILK?!

61 Long Nics are Looonnng  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:09:10pm

To quote the US Air Force guy who blew up a bunch of scattering terrorists that I saw on YouTube a while back...

"Dude."

62 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:09:13pm

re: #54 FrogMarch

"There's no food in the market" because everything is a disguise for Hamas' weapons storage.

There is none in the markets because it is stockpiled in Hamas warehouses. They have been moving food and supplies through those tunnels for months. No one is going hungry there.

63 Miss Molly  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:09:33pm

Hamas has said repeatedly that they didn't believe in any cease fire agreement with Israel. And, after firing over 3000 rockets into Israel I tend to believe they don't want a cease fire with Israel.

The Hamas employment program is digging tunnels and moving weapons. No wonder there isn't another Arab county that wants this group in their neighborhood.

64 albusteve  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:10:32pm

re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

To quote the US Air Force guy who blew up a bunch of scattering terrorists that I saw on YouTube a while back...

"Dude."

those are my favorite...20mm canon fire...

65 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:10:33pm

re: #40 mjwsatx

from al-Reuters yesterday:

Israel expanded its air campaign to the southern Gaza Strip, bombing some 40 smuggling tunnels running under the border with Egypt, a network that is a lifeline to the outside world.

Yeah - and did they explain why it is necessary for Hamas to smuggle stuff from friendly Egypt? Where they can go and bring things in unhindered by any Israeli border patrol?

Naw - its too difficult for moonbats, they think that a huge wall encircles all of Gaza ...

66 Jonas Parker  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:10:39pm
Does this idiot even know what HAMAS means in English?!?

"Target" maybe?

67 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:10:51pm

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How will they get their goats.

68 faraway  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:11:23pm

re: #63 Miss Molly

The Hamas employment program is digging tunnels and moving weapons.

The poor dears are out of work - and out of milk? Oh no.

69 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:11:35pm

re: #55 Thanos

Impressive little things.

70 Kragar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:11:54pm

re: #67 lawhawk

How will they get their goats.

eGoat.com

71 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:12:00pm

Hey, Hamas, still want "Death to Israel" in your charter?
How is that working out for you?

72 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:12:13pm

re: #62 notutopia

There is none in the markets because it is stockpiled in Hamas warehouses. They have been moving food and supplies through those tunnels for months. No one is going hungry there.

But WaPo tells us the poor palis are all starving?

73 Jonas Parker  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:12:45pm

re: #71 rawmuse

Hey, Hamas, still want "Death to Israel" in your charter?
How is that working out for you?

err... "no comment"?

74 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:12:46pm

Here is my fear, they will take a look at McKinney & treat her like a movie star & we will never get her back.

75 greenmiler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:12:56pm

get some

76 Kragar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:13:14pm

re: #71 rawmuse

Hey, Hamas, still want "Death to Israel" in your charter?
How is that working out for you?

Not bad in the long run, but kind of shitty for the last week apparently.

77 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:13:25pm

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

eGoat.com

On #4 there went yet another keyboard...

78 Opinionated  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:13:26pm

This action is missing an equivalent to "Yala Yala Nasrallah"

79 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:14:02pm

re: #59 WitchDoctor

I often wonder how many people still think the Palestinians all live in tent cities the poor dears.

More than i would have thought possiblle, looking at the comment pages of such MSM here in the UK as the Beeb, Telegraph, Times ... not to mention the usual suspects, Guardian and Indpendent.

Sickeinng.

80 Racer X  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:14:11pm

Israel is stronger.

Deal with it.

81 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:14:16pm

re: #69 notutopia

Impressive little things.

Yes they are. Soon everyone will have their equivalent however. Windows of military superiority only stay open when you work to keep them so. The next 8 years could be disastrous for our future.

82 mean Gene  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:14:21pm

My favorite part of this horrible necessity?
Seeing the entire Muslim world stand still and not lift a finger to aid their ''Palestinian brothers."
The London demonstrations sported Red Ken Livingstone for a bit, if he still looks ~ the same as he did as mayor.
And who did those Londoners want to act for them?
Some Islamic nation?
Israel?
The UK?
No government on earth is lifting a finger to help Hamas.
When Hamas falls it will be a good thing for the Palestinians.

83 iam7545  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:14:22pm

Am Yisroel Chai!

84 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:14:31pm

The last strike in the clip is a missile launcher hidden in a greenhouse. Nice.

85 Quilly Mammoth  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:15:21pm

re: #28 unrealizedviewpoint

What other use would there be for such a tunnel anyway?

Smuggling in food. If Hamas really cared about the people they would use them to bring in food.

86 albusteve  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:15:58pm

re: #82 mean Gene

My favorite part of this horrible necessity?
Seeing the entire Muslim world stand still and not lift a finger to aid their ''Palestinian brothers."
The London demonstrations sported Red Ken Livingstone for a bit, if he still looks ~ the same as he did as mayor.
And who did those Londoners want to act for them?
Some Islamic nation?
Israel?
The UK?
No government on earth is lifting a finger to help Hamas.
When Hamas falls it will be a good thing for the Palestinians.

agreed on all points but who will take care of them then?

87 Kragar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:16:01pm

re: #78 Opinionated

This action is missing an equivalent to "Yala Yala Nasrallah"

Youtube Video

Cant go wrong with Yakety Sax either. That makes anything fun.

88 Earick  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:16:17pm

I know I have no compassion. But I would love to see all the chest thumping and screaming that would be coming out of Gaza if every time Hamas fired a rocket at Israel, Israel fired one back...untargeted!
Just pop it off and let it fall... wherever!
"An eye for an eye!

89 Miss Molly  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:16:34pm

opnion, I have had the same fear that our little Cynthia McKinney will get stuck in Gaza and just never get home again. All our poor Cynthia will have to do is stand in front of the Western cameras and scream about the unfairness of it all and the fact that she can't find a good beauty salon.

90 SecondComing  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:16:42pm

re: #9 faraway

Not a bad idea to corral all of Hamas into Gaza and then blow the crap out of them.

Well done.

I would upding you many more if I could.

91 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:17:08pm

re: #85 Quilly Mammoth

Smuggling in food. If Hamas really cared about the people they would use them to bring in food.

If Hamas cared, they'd stop fighting Israel and work on a peaceful solution.

If Hamas cared, they wouldn't indoctrinate kids to be suicide bombers.

If Hamas cared, they would use pipes for sewage transport and not missiles and rockets.

If Hamas cared, they'd use greenhouses as food production facilities; not terror training camps and rocket launching facilities

If Hamas cared, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

92 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:17:35pm

re: #72 FrogMarch

But WaPo tells us the poor palis are all starving?


The UN saved them. Palestinian MRE's
[Link: www.un.org...]

93 chicagodudewhotrades  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:17:59pm

re: #89 Miss Molly

Mckinney needs a lot more than a good beauty salon...

94 jhn1  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:19:25pm

re: #21 quickjustice

Nobody wants them.

Especially after the enhanced bandit attitude programming allowed after Oslo, anyone foolish to allow them is going to lose their own country.
Remember how they were willing to help Saddam sack and take Kuwait?
Remember how they were caught trying to set up a coup against the King of Jordan?
It is much worse after the indoctrination allowed by Israel.
No cluster bombs against mass rallys screaming "Death to Israel".
They didn't take a single hate teaching radio or TV station off the air, nor stop a single shipment of books at the border, even if those books deliberately lied about the history and encouraged the Pallys to "take back what is theirs".

If every Jew in Israel dropped dead tomorrow morning, while the Pallys were dismembering and otherwise desecrataing the corpses, the armies of Syria, Jordan, and Egypt would be rushing forward to defend their borders, Lebanon would be pushing Hez forward to join the Pally celebration, and every neighboring country would build Berlin Wall style borders, complete with armored pillboxes, to defend those walls.

The Pallys are cannon fodder, rabid raccoon style cannon fodder, useful against Israel but too dangerous to the rest of the Arab world to be allowed to contaminate them.

95 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:19:33pm

Hamas broadcast celebrates murdering Israeli civilians


Along with today's TV propaganda in which Hamas depicts itself as a victim, Hamas continues to portray itself as the heroic killer of Israelis. A video on Hamas "Al-Aksa" TV this morning blended pictures of Hamas fighters shooting at Israel with pictures of injured Israelis and medical evacuation scenes. In addition, the visuals include pictures of skulls dripping with blood, captioned: "Let t More..hem taste violent death".
Other narrations and texts include:

"Send them to Hell! Tear them to pieces!"

"Send them to Hell, Qassam missile!"

96 Jonas Parker  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:19:37pm

re: #92 notutopia

The UN saved them. Palestinian MRE's

Ham and beans C-rats...

97 hazzyday  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:20:23pm

This time Israel should ignore any useless international pressures from the US or the UN. Corrosive policies is all they are.

98 faraway  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:20:31pm

This is what Hamas cares about

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

99 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:20:32pm

Ohhh, the poor "Palistinians" in Gaza can't get any food or milk...ah, gee whiz

My response - TOUGH SHIT! Quit allowing your homes and businesses to be used as launching points and stand up to the oppressive Hamas asshats that claim to be your friends and advocates, all the same, making YOU a target from bombs and missiles from BOTH sides...

100 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:20:45pm

re: #96 Jonas Parker

Ham and beans C-rats...

Perk...

101 freedombilly  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:20:51pm

Note to self: Don't mess with the IAF.

102 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:21:06pm

You heartless Zionist bastards! There was a wedding party going on in each of those tunnels! The secondary explosions were caused by CDs of "The Chicken Dance" combusting.

103 freedombilly  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:21:31pm

How are they going to get their veggies now that those "greenhouses" are gone?

104 baconeatingkaffir  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:21:31pm

re: #88 Earick

Yeah. Thatkind of reminds me of a conversation I had with my students . Here in Turkey people (especially from the eastern area) have a tendency to bring guns and pop off rounds in the air at weddings and after football matches etc. Of cousre what goes up must come dow (gravity it's not just a suggestion.. its a rule!). When I asked soem of them about what happens to the people killed by stray rounds and falling lead.. one of my students answered "it's the will of allah". That works for me.. kind of like the stricnine and snake handling folks back home "testing their faith".

105 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:21:33pm

re: #89 Miss Molly

opnion, I have had the same fear that our little Cynthia McKinney will get stuck in Gaza and just never get home again. All our poor Cynthia will have to do is stand in front of the Western cameras and scream about the unfairness of it all and the fact that she can't find a good beauty salon.

Be reasonable, no salon could be good enough, what do you expect in the Holy Land, miracles?

106 mean Gene  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:21:38pm

re: #86 albusteve

agreed on all points but who will take care of them then?

Hey!
At some point even a population averaging age 17.2* years will grow up, if it chooses to.
*CIA World Fact Book.

107 Kragar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:21:57pm

Since its sooo humiliating, I propose the IAF carpet bomb Gaza with...

wait for it...

SHOES!

I got some spares lying around the house.

108 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:22:16pm

re: #100 Dustyvet

Add a few pork rinds, a real nice slab of bacon, and some hamhocks...a veritable feast! They claim to be starving, right?

109 Bob Dillon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:22:52pm

re: #51 Thanos

Bingo! I believe that the last shot of the hit on the "missile greenhouse" was the site of the funny looking photo we were discussing last night.

That's the first thot I had as well.

110 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:22:58pm

re: #89 Miss Molly

opnion, I have had the same fear that our little Cynthia McKinney will get stuck in Gaza and just never get home again. All our poor Cynthia will have to do is stand in front of the Western cameras and scream about the unfairness of it all and the fact that she can't find a good beauty salon.

Actually, I think that McKinney believes that she has a good look goin on.
She could hook up with some dude and just stay in Gaza gittin jiggy with the jihad

111 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:23:02pm
112 iam7545  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:23:02pm

Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us. Golda Meir

113 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:23:12pm

What if Cynthia McKinney got lost in Gaza?

114 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:23:20pm

re: #91 lawhawk

You mentioned before that you thought Israel was doing a reasonably good job managing the media on this one. I have to say, much as I'd love to believe that, I'm not seeing the evidence. E.g., previous WaPo thread (and check out WaPo's main news story on dead trees on this, definite anti-Israel slant, i.e. referring to Gaza as "land Israel seized from Egypt in 1967"); and CNN seems solidly in the tank for the Palis.

115 Jonas Parker  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:24:00pm

re: #108 6pat6

Add a few pork rinds, a real nice slab of bacon, and some hamhocks...a veritable feast! They claim to be starving, right?

Or just heave the whole live hog out of the plane... like the Thanksgiving promo on "WKRP in Cincinnati"...

116 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:24:08pm

re: #114 Occasional Reader

CNN is always in the tank for the Palis!

117 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:24:27pm

re: #115 Jonas Parker

Flying pig moment, maybe?

118 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:24:48pm

re: #102 Occasional Reader

You heartless Zionist bastards! There was a wedding party going on in each of those tunnels! The secondary explosions were caused by CDs of "The Chicken Dance" combusting.


No no, the hokey pokey. You put your right foot in & blows up all about!

119 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:25:11pm

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Hamas broadcast celebrates murdering Israeli civilians

[Video]

You have to understand that in its cultural context.

They're murderous brutes, you see.

120 albusteve  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:25:28pm

re: #114 Occasional Reader

You mentioned before that you thought Israel was doing a reasonably good job managing the media on this one. I have to say, much as I'd love to believe that, I'm not seeing the evidence. E.g., previous WaPo thread (and check out WaPo's main news story on dead trees on this, definite anti-Israel slant, i.e. referring to Gaza as "land Israel seized from Egypt in 1967"); and CNN seems solidly in the tank for the Palis.

yep...might as well live it and move on

121 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:25:52pm

re: #118 opnion

No no, the hokey pokey. You put your right foot in & blows up all about!

No, now, the Holey Pokey is not PC anymore, at least in Britain! Where's your sensitivity, son?

122 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:25:53pm
123 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:26:05pm

re: #102 Occasional Reader

You heartless Zionist bastards! There was a wedding party going on in each of those tunnels! The secondary explosions were caused by CDs of "The Chicken Dance" combusting.

Thank God!


124 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:26:50pm

re: #122 Iron Fist

Stick her in a burka...she'll have no problem.

125 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:26:52pm

re: #114 Occasional Reader

You mentioned before that you thought Israel was doing a reasonably good job managing the media on this one. I have to say, much as I'd love to believe that, I'm not seeing the evidence. E.g., previous WaPo thread (and check out WaPo's main news story on dead trees on this, definite anti-Israel slant, i.e. referring to Gaza as "land Israel seized from Egypt in 1967"); and CNN seems solidly in the tank for the Palis.

They're doing a better job in this respect - their foreign ministry is out front getting this video public, doing the interviews, and countering any of the propagandists before they can really take hold. They still face an uphill battle against the entrenched anti-Israel sentiment in WaPo, NYT, CNN, etc. many of whom source their reports from Arab/Palestinian stringers whose affiliations and biases are anything but objective.

126 buzzdroid  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:27:03pm

that strike on the greenhouse storing missiles is VERY interesting...

note the star like appearance of the explosion - must be the rockets igniting...

127 Bob Dillon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:27:27pm

re: #107 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We have been asked to eliminate the term "carpet bomb" from our discussions as the IDF is doing the exact opposite.

Couple of threads back.

Just sayin'.

128 Jonas Parker  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:27:36pm

re: #124 6pat6

Stick her in a burka...she'll have no problem.

Do they make stainless steel burkas? With locks?

129 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:28:03pm

Another Grad rocket in Ashkelon.

130 maddogg  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:28:11pm

Operation Cast Lead? I would have called it Operation Vengeance. But thats just me. I hope those are American made munitions.

131 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:28:42pm

re: #94 jhn1

Didn't Assad, father of the chinless wonder, also put them to the sword?

132 6pat6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:29:31pm

re: #128 Jonas Parker

And soundproofed! Would you want to be a jihadist, married to that? That would drive me to premature conflagration!

133 jhn1  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:31:25pm

re: #86 albusteve

agreed on all points but who will take care of them then?

That is a stupid question.
Israel will.
Deliver food and medical supplies
guarantee water, electricity and sewage treatment.

This allows all Muslim donation to buy weapons.

Since money is considered a fungible, it equals Israel is subsidising the Pally attacks on her citizens.

134 DEZes  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:31:33pm

re: #51 Thanos

Bingo! I believe that the last shot of the hit on the "missile greenhouse" was the site of the funny looking photo we were discussing last night.

Sure looks like it.

135 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:32:46pm

SWEET!

It doesn't pay to piss off the IAF. Good shootin' boys and girls! (do they have girls in the IAF as pilots?)

136 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:32:54pm

re: #109 Bobibutu

That's the first thot I had as well.

The multiple explosions now explained, the magic of gun camera tv.

137 albusteve  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:35:19pm

re: #133 jhn1

That is a stupid question.
Israel will.
Deliver food and medical supplies
guarantee water, electricity and sewage treatment.

This allows all Muslim donation to buy weapons.

Since money is considered a fungible, it equals Israel is subsidising the Pally attacks on her citizens.

it wasnt stupid it was rhetorical..lighten up

138 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:37:55pm

They definitely hit the cookie jar!

139 Jhn1  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:39:12pm

re: #131 yma o hyd

Didn't Assad, father of the chinless wonder, also put them to the sword?

Probably, but I didn't recall more specifics. The Saudis have thrown them out at least once as well. (more preventative IIRC)

140 Jhn1  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:41:13pm

re: #137 albusteve

it wasnt stupid it was rhetorical..lighten up

Sorry, I thought it looked odd with a sarcasm tag in the middle, it wasn't meant to be as derogative as it looks without it.

Mea Culpa.

141 freedom_fighter  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:41:17pm

Hamas said: All your base are belong to us!

Israel said: I don't think so!

142 Bob Dillon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:41:18pm

re: #136 Thanos

The multiple explosions now explained, the magic of gun camera tv.

and where all the dirt came from.

143 cantankerouscamel  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:50:26pm

re: #5 Leonidas Hoplite

Does anyone have an approximate idea of the number of rockets that were fired into Israel from Gaza during the Phony Ceasefire?

More than 205 from July 1 to Nov 30 - [Link: www.theisraelproject.org...]

[Link: www.theisraelproject.org...]

144 nyc redneck  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:50:59pm

re: #82 mean Gene

My favorite part of this horrible necessity?
Seeing the entire Muslim world stand still and not lift a finger to aid their ''Palestinian brothers."
The London demonstrations sported Red Ken Livingstone for a bit, if he still looks ~ the same as he did as mayor.
And who did those Londoners want to act for them?
Some Islamic nation?
Israel?
The UK?
No government on earth is lifting a finger to help Hamas.
When Hamas falls it will be a good thing for the Palestinians.

they are the embodiment of many distasteful human qualities.
they are violent, hateful, lazy , cruel, destructive, spiteful, deranged, sadistic, brutal, uncivilized, vile, vicious and inhuman.
and they are UGLY and loud and raucous and demanding.
why would anyone want to help these awful people?
who wants to risk their lives for such repugnant jerks?
they are cutting their own throats by behaving as they do.
it is good to see no one helping dangerous people like this.
they must be soundly rejected.
stopped. permanently.

145 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:53:14pm

ULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULU!

146 ColdPizza  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:55:44pm

Great article on Herretz yesterday.

"Anti Israel responses from the Terrorist lovers'

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

147 Dammits Dad  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:04:00pm

re: #115 Jonas Parker

Or just heave the whole live hog out of the plane... like the Thanksgiving promo on "WKRP in Cincinnati"...

That was one of the funniest episodes of just about any TV show.

148 Guy_Philly  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:06:56pm

re: #18 HoosierHoops

re: #18 HoosierHoops

Wow! I didn't know powdered milk could cause such powerful secondary explosions.

Those of us in health and safety know better:

or, if you prefer coffee creamer:

149 BigMoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:21:40pm

That's good shootin' ! Commendation pending for the pilots and crew.

150 BigMoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:23:55pm

re: #147 Dammits Dad

I've not seen that episode in years, but still recall Les Nessman: "they're hitting the pavement like bags of wet cement...oh the humanity"...words to that effect..
lol

151 mfarmer1  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:24:24pm

Hey, I guess this time we can say those were controlled explosions courtesy of the Mossad!

152 Prester John  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:31:55pm

Those secondary explosions at the greenhouse were obviously just very hot chili peppers.

153 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:32:13pm

Spinoff link
“There is no such thing as a ‘disproportionate response’ to calls for genocide.”
[Link: sigmundcarlandalfred.wordpress.com...]

154 jgold  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:36:33pm

How long until we see 1000's of black clad seething and ULULULing Iranians saying they are going to Gaza to help their brothers.

Isreal should hold a press conference inviting anyone who wants to go to Gaza and fight to please come so we can kill you all at once.

155 Prester John  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:39:58pm

#154 Iran has supposedly signed up 3,500 "volunteers". Of course they are offering 3 ways of fighting the Zionist entity: financially, technologically (think propaganda), and militarily.

For some reason I think most of them will pick one of the first two choices.

156 Macker  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:43:43pm

Does anyone else have the feeling that Hamas' now-destroyed HQ bore a very faint resemblance to the Hall of Justice?

157 dachew  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:58:41pm

You know, I'm getting a little frustrated with the Israelis here. Not saying it's a huge problem but I just think we should be getting better video of these strikes. With all the money in aid we send them, I think we deserve a little less grainy, maybe a few more angles to choose from. I mean, come on, I pay my taxes, I think I should be getting some better production values here.

158 jester6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:15:24pm

I doesn't matter how much evidence the IAF posts to show they are attacking military targets. Evidence appeals to reason. As the Pope has noted on more than one occasion, Islam doesn't integrate very well with reason.

159 Tamron  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:16:28pm

What if Hamas were to convince Cynthia McKinney that the Right Thing to Do is to sit down in front of an Israeli bulldozer, in protest...

Maybe they could commercialize on that concept, and open up a Gaza IHOP?
.

160 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:19:53pm

Shood Gooting !

Give that man a kewpie doll

161 jachim72  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:20:13pm

re: #32 chicagodudewhotrades

One can only hope they don't cave to "international pressure" and stop before accomplishing anything real. Israel needs to end this once and for all. No more phony cease-fires and truces that everyone knows Hamas and Hezbollah will not live up to.

162 Sifty  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:21:17pm

I hope the IDF takes the UN Coward Hotline off the hook for the next few days and gets busy.

163 jester6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:23:57pm

re: #21 quickjustice

I'm still amazed by this precision strike technology. Before the days of smart bombs, you just carpet bombed the target with dumb bombs.

Sad to say, depopulation of Gaza may become necessary if its rulers can't stop attacks on Israel. The Egyptian aren't exactly eager to accept these hard-boiled terrorist eggs.

After watching footage from MEMRI TV over the last few years I have wondered the same thing, but not about the terrorists. I have been wondering about next generation of the general public in Gaza. The Nazi party was never more than 15% of the German population, even with mandatory membership for government employees. A civilization can almost never support a "warrior class" of more than a few percentage points. It does not take the majority of Palistinian's to be willing to martyr themselves to make Gaza fall into the category of civilizations or states which had to be obliterated before they could be changed.

164 captain joe  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:25:35pm

A little more rubble, a lot less trouble.
Image: B52PeaceLogo.gif

165 wiffersnapper  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:26:11pm

what fancy headquarters building? ;)

166 blangwort  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:28:03pm

re: #18 HoosierHoops

Wow! I didn't know powdered milk could cause such powerful secondary explosions.

Actually, you'd be surprised how much of an explosion you could get with high-calorie foods in powdered form. The secret is that it has to be aerially dispersed. Flour mills have to be careful as do sugar mills. However, you're right; you don't get secondary explosions like that with stored food.

167 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:32:50pm

re: #156 Macker

Does anyone else have the feeling that Hamas' now-destroyed HQ bore a very faint resemblance to the Hall of Justice?

LOL, that is just SO wrong!

168 sheepdog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:44:32pm

Hahahahahahaahha...Crucify that you scumbags...

169 transient  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:46:59pm

Heard a Hamas-bot on NPR half an hour ago. The guy was bald-faced lying (not that this surprises me). Incredible they lie this blatantly, or think that people will believe them (sadly, the Arabs and far left libs probably do). He had the chutzpah to claim that Hamas was not firing rockets, the rockets were fired by "Israeli collaborators" on Israeli instructions.
...And he's also selling Manhattan bridges, if anyone's interested.

Among innumerable things about NPR that piss me off--they always, always let the Israelis speak first, so the Palestinians are able to say whatever they want unchallenged (they tend to do the same with Reps/Dems). The NPR interviewer (while obviously not believing that the rockets were fired by "collaborators) doesn't challenge him. Hamas guy asserts that Israel is targeting residential areas, schools, the university, mosques, etc.-- and there is no one to tell the listener that Hamas has been hiding mortars and rockets and weapons factories in them.

Garrr.

170 jester6  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:47:13pm

re: #161 jachim72

One can only hope they don't cave to "international pressure" and stop before accomplishing anything real. Israel needs to end this once and for all. No more phony cease-fires and truces that everyone knows Hamas and Hezbollah will not live up to.

I don't know if it is going to happen this time. I have not been watching the polls over there. But eventually, the disconnect between "world opinion" and what Israelis' experience in their day to day lives will make wold opinion irrelevant.

171 RobCon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:48:23pm

Wow! There must have been many explosive cucumbers in that innocent greenhouse.

172 littlegreenbill  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:56:51pm

Yea team!

173 marsl  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:56:52pm

Instead of bombs, drop the moonbats in Gaza... from 2000 ft and without parachutes.
Those crazy heads will penetrate even the hardest bunker.

174 marsl  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 3:01:05pm

re: #173 marsl

Instead of bombs, drop the moonbats in Gaza... from 2000 ft and without parachutes.
Those crazy heads will penetrate even the hardest bunker.

Realize that I talked in feet in order to you, American friends, to understand the altitude. If I would talk in meters (as it should be), you would need to make the conversion to that antiquate and obsolete system of yours...

All your feets belongs to us!

/Just kidding

175 Sifty  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 3:15:07pm

Exploding Hot-house Tomatoes: Scourge of Allah

This week on Montel.

176 BigDog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 4:03:04pm

That's the best movie I've seen in awhile!

177 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 4:42:24pm

Beautiful!

178 MoonbatBane  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:45:05pm

Secondaries are very nice. More popcorn and beer needed...

179 reality_bites  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:46:05pm

The solution does not reside with Israel since the Arabs do not want to be under Israeli rule. The only way forward is to give Gaza to be ruled by Egypt as it did before 1967. Egypt's intelligence services build up the Hamas in Gaza in order to "bleed" the Israelis, they armed or at least did not stop the stream of armament coming from Egyptian controlled Sinai peninsula into the Gaza Strip. This is a problem of their own doing so let them fix it. They have the incentive not to let Hamas to help the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt fight and topple the Egyptian government.

An Egyptian control of Gaza will make the inhabitants live a normal life without lobbing rockets into Israel and keep the peace into the Strip.

180 rabidfox  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:49:10pm

Reality: As I understand it, Egypt doesn't want Gaza back; palis having a habit of trying to take over any contry that is stupid enough to let them in.


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