Not. Going. To. Happen.

Just say No!

If they stop now, they just wasted a bunch of bombs and will have accomplished NOTHING

Wouldn't be prudent.

Consider - but reject

Can't they just get it the heck over with?

re: #5 Sharmuta

Wouldn't be prudent.

At this juncture.

re: #5 Sharmuta

Wouldn't be prudent.

Certainly not at this juncture!

The UN will monitor Hamas closely on this one.
//

re: #9 jamgarr

Certainly not at this juncture!

GMTA.

Ugh. Not again.

I will bet anyone here a cup of cold decaf that Israel will back off.

(I hope I'm so wrong)

The poor, suffering VICTIMS. Think of the children...

remember they are still kadima they screwed up in lebanon nothing they would do would surprise me.

The Chevy Chase show was a better idea than this.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

SCREW THAT!

israel has got to put these rabid dogs down while they have the chance

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can't they just get it the heck over with?

I got their truce right here.

Yell truce till Hamas pops it's head up and *WHACK*

A new take on the carny game, 'cept this is *WHACK-A-TERRORIST*

That they are even considering it will be seen as a major victory for Hamas.

Bank on it.

re: #14 yochanan

What is this "kadima" of which you speak?

I dunno.

So Hamas can reload? ...Why?

"under international pressure"...so I have to ask...where is the international outcry over the Taliban's killing of 14 school children by a suicide car bomber? Where's the international pressure on the Pakistanis to hand over the Mumbai masterminds?

350 dead Hamas jihadists is worth outcry from every nation on Earth but 195 dead innocents in Mumbai, India is worth...what? Crickets?

but remember the pali have an even worse record of making the wrong decision.

re: #17 Sharmuta

heh.

re: #19 Spiny Norman

That they are even considering it will be seen as a major victory for Hamas.

Bank on it.

If there's only one Hamas bastard left standing, he will proclaim victory

re: #11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

GMTA.

Great Minds Think Alike... FBV has a mind? Who knew... Hell ya better give it back to whomever you swiped if from before they notice you have it... ;P

re: #22 ornery elephant

Oh stop with your logic.

This is a French idea.

To quote the late, great General Anthony McAuliffe, Israel's response should be "Nuts!"

re: #25 Desert Dog

If there's only one Hamas bastard left standing, he will proclaim victory

Even if he's that asswipe chickenshit hiding in Damascus.

:^/

re: #27 doriangrey

Hey, it ain't much. But it's mine!

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

Time to take a lesson from another tradition.

Heracles discovered that he could not defeat the Hydra by lopping off its heads; whenever he lopped off one, two grew in its place.

Then he discovered he could prevent this by burning the stumps before the heads grew back. The last head was immortal, so he cut it off, burned the stump, and buried the immortal head beneath a great rock.

Israeli government, take note.

Is there room under Massada?

re: #29 Wyatt Earp

To quote the late, great General Anthony McAuliffe, Israel's response should be "Nuts!"

The Israeli government should grow a pair already!

"You know what he said?"

"What?"

"He said, "Nuts.""

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

upding, cause it did not deserve a down ding :-)

re: #29 Wyatt Earp

To quote the late, great General Anthony McAuliffe, Israel's response should be "Nuts!"

payback!

re: #22 ornery elephant

"under international pressure"...so I have to ask...where is the international outcry over the Taliban's killing of 14 school children by a suicide car bomber? Where's the international pressure on the Pakistanis to hand over the Mumbai masterminds?

350 dead Hamas jihadists is worth outcry from every nation on Earth but 195 dead innocents in Mumbai, India is worth...what? Crickets?

That international pressure is scared shitless that Muslims will start blowing their shit up...

I hope they don't do it! It would be such a waste! Keep going or it'll be for nothing!

Could Israel just please finish the job? Invade and put an end to the cockroaches of Hamas. Please, don't do a half-assed job. Crush them and wipe them out. We are counting on you to show the world how it is done.

re: #29 Wyatt Earp

To quote the late, great General Anthony McAuliffe, Israel's response should be "Nuts!"

Written on a JDAM, just for punctuation.

re: #33 Desert Dog

What happened to the Israelis of Entebbe and Osriuk?

call the truce, lose the war, and then get Kadmidiot out of there.

Let Bibi in a finish the job

re: #23 yochanan

yes but thiers more of them and thier breeding faster, and since they have a culture of death and a love of all things evil. they can afford to keep making the wrong decisions.

Are they still twitching?

KEEP
FIRING,
R

re: #42 WhiteRasta

What happened to the Israelis of Entebbe and Osriuk?

They are dead or in a coma.

re: #28 WhiteRasta

Oh stop with your logic.

This is a French idea.

When I heard that on the radio news earlier today, my first thought was, "WTF? It figures the French would think Israel's only option at this point was surrender".

No lie.

re: #18 jcm

Yell truce till Hamas pops it's head up and *WHACK*

A new take on the carny game, 'cept this is *WHACK-A-TERRORIST*

Close, but no ceegar!

It's "Whack-a-Mo".

:D

re: #41 jcm

Written on a JDAM, just for punctuation.

updinged for PROFOUND truth... ;)

re: #4 Desert Dog

If they stop now, they just wasted a bunch of bombs and will have accomplished NOTHING

re: #22 ornery elephant

350 dead Hamas jihadists

Not exactly "nothing".

re: #38 doriangrey

That international pressure is scared shitless that Muslims will start blowing their shit up...

Precisely.

Arby Dwiar

Huh? You're in the wrong fucking joke, person.

I think it's a great idea...Look over the last 6 months they have been watching where these fucks have been operating out of..Drones and all..
The first 3 days of the shock and awe that Israel unleased really made our initial foray into Iraq we called shock and awe look weak.
These have been very effective strikes..Now is time to let them take up defensive positions and communicate to the leadership...
Make the second strike powerful..and effective..
You can mass ground troops till the cows come home...Great threat...
Israel gets to play that card when it dang well wants to...We waited 100 days or something in desert storm

Why is it that Israel is supposed to keep their wars under a week?

Where do those Euro-Wankers get off telling Israel anything?

I'm feeling very...like the crazy guy who used to post here.

( I forgot his name)

re: #48 Miss Trixie

Close, but no ceegar!

It's "Whack-a-Mo".

:D

ROFL!

Much better!

re: #54 jamgarr

Why is it that Israel is supposed to keep their wars under a week?

You know your bible? How long did it take G-D to make the world?

re: #55 buzzsawmonkey

I love whackamole with corn chips.

updinged for ROTFLMAO'edness...

re: #54 jamgarr

Why is it that Israel is supposed to keep their wars under a week?

Precedent? I say they break tradition for this one.

I wrote THIS in the other thread just an hour or two ago.

I guess I was fooled by the blitz IDF pounded on Hamas that I almost let go of the fact of just how liberal the leadership in Israel is.

re: #54 jamgarr

I would like to know what the fuck is up with that too! wars are supposed to be fought based on reaching an objective not reaching a calender date.

re: #54 jamgarr

Why is it that Israel is supposed to keep their wars under a week?

That's how long it takes for the panic to work its way through the international diplomatic bureaucracy.

I hope Israel keeps on keeping on, but if Hamas wants to buy a chance at a cease-fire they should pay the going rate, which I calculate to be exactly one Gilad Shalit.

Here we go again, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. ONLY justifiable if there's a tactical purpose to it (i.e., get better G-2, remove certain assets, etc).

re: #54 jamgarr

Why is it that Israel is supposed to keep their wars under a week?

I say they should agree to a 48 hour ceasefire, wait 10 hours and blast the shit out of anything that moves in Gaza... Call it a reverse Hudna...

re: #65 Lincolntf

I hope Israel keeps on keeping on, but if Hamas wants to buy a chance at a cease-fire they should pay the going rate, which I calculate to be exactly one Gilad Shalit.

Ding, ding, ding!

re: #54 jamgarr

Because anything beyond a week is genocide in the eyes of the "fair and balanced" World.

Bat-shat nuts. To even consider it.

Olmert is a coward

Hamas is not going to go away on their own. They will not be put down by a 3-4 day aerial assault. They will pull their evil asses out of the rubble and once again start plotting and planning how to destroy Israel. They cannot allow Hamas to become as powerful as Hezbollah. It will cost lives, but what is the alternative? A brokered peace deal with Hamas? More of the same?

re: #55 buzzsawmonkey

I love whackamole with corn chips.

Ooooh. Thanks for the reminder to pick some corn chips up at the grocer tomorrow. I've the avocados ready to go ... yum!

re: #66 SFGoth

Here we go again, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. ONLY justifiable if there's a tactical purpose to it (i.e., get better G-2, remove certain assets, etc).

Ummm, maybe so they can strike Tehran?

I wish they could rain fire on them 48 hours a day.

re: #65 Lincolntf

I hope Israel keeps on keeping on, but if Hamas wants to buy a chance at a cease-fire they should pay the going rate, which I calculate to be exactly one Gilad Shalit.

Watch Hamas squirm if that demand is made. I doubt they would consider it, and they would look exactly like the terrorists they are if they don't do it.

JCM

:D

re: #74 doriangrey

Ummm, maybe so they can strike Tehran?

Not a bad idea - make Hamas reel before taking on Iran

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

re: #74 doriangrey

Ummm, maybe so they can strike Tehran?

There's a town called Tehran in Gaza?
Israel isn't attacking Iran anytime w/o U.S. approval. Fuhgeddaboudit.

re: #72 Desert Dog

Kick their asses into the dirt then stomp on it.

Screw "World Opinion."

Why is it that Israel is the only, THE ONLY country in the world, not allowed to defend itself?

Winston - upschwingding for you.

..."Why did you sting me?" asked the frog, as they both began to sink into the river.
"It's my nature." said the scorpion.

/round and round...

re: #72 Desert Dog

Hamas is not going to go away on their own. They will not be put down by a 3-4 day aerial assault. They will pull their evil asses out of the rubble and once again start plotting and planning how to destroy Israel. They cannot allow Hamas to become as powerful as Hezbollah. It will cost lives, but what is the alternative? A brokered peace deal with Hamas? More of the same?

Yup. Just think of the aid money that will be (and is) pouring in for Hamas to use to rebuild itself (with a pittance left over for the people). Cycle over. Repeat.

I got distracted, are we all upstairs now?

I'll repost my previous request:

I'm trying to read about 'posse commitatus". Lizards, any insights and/or links would be most welcome.

are we still OT?

are baby aardvarks open for discussion?

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

down-dinging pricks.

:0

As someone noted yesterday, a 48 cease fire, might, might help Israel.

Hamas just won't be able to restrain themselves and will fire some rockets.

To the Cynthia "Ship of Tools" McKinney's of the world it won't make a whit of difference. But to alot of folks when Israel, shrugs and says "see" and resumes the offensive it will make a difference.

re: #74 doriangrey

Ummm, maybe so they can strike Tehran?

Israel would have to go "all in" with an attack on Iran. Aint gonna happen.

Stop the Nazi-Hamas. Never give up.

Disinformation hopefully

DEBKAfile - Day 4 of Israeli operation: Israel military, Shin Bet deny recommending 48-hour truce

According to earlier reports, Israeli leaders were considering a two-day truce proposal for which France is pressing. Tuesday night, Dec. 30, the IDF spokesman issued a strong denial of any such recommendation by the military or the Shin Bet.
As the rate of Hamas launchings climbed to 35 Tuesday night, Israel conducted a second round of air strikes against Hamas' smuggling tunnels on the Philadelphi border with Egypt.

Egyptian locked the Rafah crossing.
In Hamas' first public statement, a masked spokesman read out a "Jihad Letter, which said: "The sea of Gaza will run dry before Hamas surrenders" If Israeli attacks continued, he said Hamas would bring more Israeli towns under fire.
President Shimon Peres said Tuesday that the Gaza campaign would be hard and long. He praised the military's precise adherence to its plan.

re: #54 jamgarr

Why is it that Israel is supposed to keep their wars under a week?

One reason is they have many enemies. If they get bogged down in Gaza, you can bet your last camel that Nasrallah will start something up in the north...Iran will be happy to supply both the northern and southern front.

And, although their army is powerful and can easily defeat any of their neighbors conventional armies, it is also a citizen army. The reserves are all from the general population. We have it easy here, our army is separate (except for the Natl Guards)...we hardly know there is a war going on here...let alone two wars. In Israel, the entire country has to go on a "war footing".

re: #81 SFGoth

There's a town called Tehran in Gaza?
Israel isn't attacking Iran anytime w/o U.S. approval. Fuhgeddaboudit.

What makes you think the US hasn't given them approval? Think about it. If Israel hit's Iran right now Iran ceases to be a problem President Obama has to worry about and Bush takes the rap for it. It's a win-win for everyone involved.

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

little down dinger pricks?

.re: #86 ggt

We are despairing at Israel's imminent surrender, yet again.

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

Yellow livered chicken down dingers, gutless wonders who've figured out a mouse but not a keyboard.

The Strategy of Hamas:

1. Shoot rockets into Israel
2. Hide behind women and children as Israel defends itself
3. Race healthy women and children to hospitals (in front of CNN cameras) to accelerate world sympathy
4. Wait for international pressure to stop Israel
5. Gather up billions of $$$ in aid sent by Western nations
6. Spend billions of $$$ in Western aid on more rockets

Repeat Step 1.

re: #63 rumcrook

I would like to know what the fuck is up with that too! wars are supposed to be fought based on reaching an objective not reaching a calender date.

haven't you heard? War is fought based on the reporting of public opinion polls by the MFM.

I'd like to think of it as a Tom & Jerry chase scene, where the background keeps repeating itself over and over and over.

re: #84 IslandLibertarian

/round and round...

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

FOH? Friends of Hamas?

This is death by a thousand tiny cuts. How many years, decades, has this been going on? It's lunacy. If Israel would deal with the problem once using overwhelming force it would probably be over. Imagine if that had been done decades ago! Imagine the lives saved!

The goal of Livni and Barak was to improve their ratings for coming elections.
I assume, the consider that this "honorable" goal is met. I hope, they are wrong, and Israelis will have enough sense to send them packing in February.

re: #95 Bobibutu

little down dinger pricks?

I think that needs to be input to the LGF dictionary:

lddp (lower case).

re: #29 Wyatt Earp

To quote the late, great General Anthony McAuliffe, Israel's response should be "Nuts!"

Better yet, to quote the not-late but still great Mandy Manners:
F**k you Hamas

re: #92 Bobibutu

..."According to earlier reports, Israeli leaders were considering a two-day truce proposal for which France is pressing..."

FOR SALE: 1 French army rifle. Good condition. Never been fired. Dropped once.

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

What did they down ding? I want names.

Why is Israel under "international pressure"?

Where is the "international pressure" on Hamas?

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

/round and round...

I thought it would be RATT

re: #96 WhiteRasta

.

We are despairing at Israel's imminent surrender, yet again.

SSDD, you'd think everyone truly involved would be so tired of it, they'd tell the UN to get f@cked and just fight 'til they were done.

re: #107 WhiteRasta

..."According to earlier reports, Israeli leaders were considering a two-day truce proposal for which France is pressing..."

FOR SALE: 1 French army rifle. Good condition. Never been fired. Dropped once.

Thank you, Private Cowboy. :)

Keep Going you LIONS of ZION !
my heart goes out to all the Israelis living in bomb shelters like WWII Londoners !
How come CNN & BBC never show the Israelis running for their lives every time a rocket sails in ?

I was listening to NPR yesterday, they had interviews with Mark Regev and a Hamas spokesman. The Hamas spokesman actually said that Israeli agents are behind the rocket attacks on Israel, for the purpose of instigating conflict. His evidence: It was the only possible answer, as they had asked Palestinian groups if they were involved and they all denied it.

re: #106 Cygnus

Better yet, to quote the not-late but still great Mandy Manners:
F**k you Hamas

Seconded, or thirded or whatever...

re: #109 reine.de.tout

Why is Israel under "international pressure"?

Where is the "international pressure" on Hamas?

Postmodernism! The west=evil. Israel = the west.

re: #88 jcm

As someone noted yesterday, a 48 cease fire, might, might help Israel.

Hamas just won't be able to restrain themselves and will fire some rockets.

To the Cynthia "Ship of Tools" McKinney's of the world it won't make a whit of difference. But to alot of folks when Israel, shrugs and says "see" and resumes the offensive it will make a difference.

It'd be nice if they had some special celebration planned, when they resume, but what?

The problem is, as I've been ranting hereabouts, that there really is no point as such to the entire current attack. Israel demands too little, and doesn't get that. Of course not, in negotations you never get everything you ask for, that's why you ask for more. Heck, the Islamists know that, their ridiculous demands are excessive, but apparently they understand the principle!

re: #71 winston06

Olmert is a coward

I'm sure that Israel will agree to cease fire in order to rebuild their reputation in the world.

Hmmm...I wonder where I've heard that line of horse manure before?

Meanwhile, I'm sure Bibi is well aware of the OT admonition:

Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

re: #83 Miss Trixie

thanks

re: #114 arcatan

I was listening to NPR yesterday, they had interviews with Mark Regev and a Hamas spokesman. The Hamas spokesman actually said that Israeli agents are behind the rocket attacks on Israel, for the purpose of instigating conflict. His evidence: It was the only possible answer, as they had asked Palestinian groups if they were involved and they all denied it.

Simple - Achmed's Razor

re: #110 Bloodnok

I thought it would be RATT

But, uh...mine had Prince! (Even though he is from Minnesota.)

re: #114 arcatan

Hamas IQ is like 55

...so how much of Hamas and it's infrastructure has Israel been able to destroy so far?

Can anyone speculate?

For my money, I'd say Israel should wait until they beg for mercy, what's left of 'em.

Anyone who's been watching Olmert and his gang of incompetents should not be surprised that the white flag is being unlimbered.

re: #122 winston06

Hamas IQ is like 55

Wow, twice as smart as Obama!

re: #122 winston06

Hamas IQ is like 55

That is being really generous. I'd put it at roughly -10.

Trixie is here?

How's the Little Miss? I feel like we never get to talk anymore ;(

re: #125 Wyatt Earp

or we thought

re: #98 ornery elephant

The Strategy of Hamas:

1. Shoot rockets into Israel
2. Hide behind women and children as Israel defends itself
3. Race healthy women and children to hospitals (in front of CNN cameras) to accelerate world sympathy
4. Wait for international pressure to stop Israel
5. Gather up billions of $$$ in aid sent by Western nations
6. Spend billions of $$$ in Western aid on more rockets

Repeat Step 1.

As it has been from day one ...

Memo to IDF - this time pound them to dust - screw the BS crap from "diplomats".

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result - are you nuts? Keep on keeping on - for once!

5-10-5

re: #122 winston06

Hamas IQ is like 55

Inbreeding is a sad thing.

re: #114 arcatan

I was listening to NPR yesterday, they had interviews with Mark Regev and a Hamas spokesman. The Hamas spokesman actually said that Israeli agents are behind the rocket attacks on Israel, for the purpose of instigating conflict. His evidence: It was the only possible answer, as they had asked Palestinian groups if they were involved and they all denied it.

Well, that's good enough for me then! Those Hamas spokesmen are noted for their honesty and dignity. Those Israelis are pretty good to sneak over to Gaza and fire rockets at themselves without getting noticed or captured by Hamas. UGH!

What is really sickening is that someone, somewhere heard this guy say that shit and BELIEVED IT!

I think it's just a tactic to make hamas feel safe and stay put. Get ready for ground forces!

re: #108 VegasRick

Calm down, Rick. They never come to fight. The just snipe, like little snipey snipers.

re: #127 ggt

she has a cute dog

5 - 10 - 5 !

re: #130 ggt

outbreeding with goats made it happen

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

I think you scared it off.

re: #105 ggt

I think that needs to be input to the LGF dictionary:

lddp (lower case).

Ha! Rgr that ...

re: #137 Racer X

I think you scared it off.

Sock puppets that have snuck by the filter during registration.

re: #94 doriangrey

What makes you think the US hasn't given them approval? Think about it. If Israel hit's Iran right now Iran ceases to be a problem President Obama has to worry about and Bush takes the rap for it. It's a win-win for everyone involved.

I agree, and this so called truce, with ground troops amassed at the border telling them that if ONE rocket is fired into Israel they will get a pass to do what they need to do. Only pondering is to make sure The Israeli govt. is assured that one of the hamasses will in fact launch on them. I think they know what they are doing.

re: #120 jamgarr

Simple - Achmed's Razor

"When in doubt, it must be the simplest solution- da Joooz!"

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

re: #126 Jetpilot1101

That is being really generous. I'd put it at roughly -10.

I'd put it down somewhere near absolute zero.

re: #141 astronmr20

"When in doubt, it must be the simplest solution- da Joooz!"

You got it brudda!

re: #97 jcm

Yellow livered chicken down dingers, gutless wonders who've figured out a mouse but not a keyboard.

Or as I call them, euphemistically, rooster vacuums.

re: #137 Racer X

I think you scared it off.

Nah. Little shits never actually show up. Their moms let them know when a registration opens.

Still think there should be a post "milestone" (if you will) before the dingers are activated. Charles house, his rules.

Just sayin...

re: #122 winston06

Hamas IQ is like 55

I am afraid, that IQ of Olmert, Livni, and Barak together is even lower. Even if you add IQ of Sharon, regardless before or after coma, it will still be low.
What IS should they have to present Gaza to
PLO/Hamas and South Lebanon to Hisb'Allah? What IQ do they have to repeat all the same mistakes they made during Lebanon War?

re: #114 arcatan

That's why no one in Israel ever gets hit by rocket fire! The Joos are firing on themselves!

Slaps my forehead!

Just like 9/11.

WE need to give Israel all the support we can. If they didn't deal with the scum, the scum would inbreed to the point of overpopulation and they woud be a world problem, instead of just an Israel problem.

Sad, but true. It sounds cynical, but today they hate Jews, if the succeeded in their nightmare, they would just find someone else to hate and blame their troubles on.

I do think that is why it get's so little attention by the MSM. As long as Israel does "small" wars against the whackos, they are kept in check and the rest of the world doesn't have to deal with them.

/easier to send money and act like you care.

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah. Little shits never actually show up. Their moms let them know when a registration opens.

Still think there should be a post "milestone" (if you will) before the dingers are activated. Charles house, his rules.

Just sayin...

When you were ranting, I considered throwing in a down-ding . . . just to give you a brain aneurysm. :)

re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Calm down, Rick. They never come to fight. The just snipe, like little snipey snipers.

If their gonna ding down comments they should have enough balls to tell us why. I hate cowards.

re: #149 WhiteRasta

That's why no one in Israel ever gets hit by rocket fire! The Joos are firing on themselves!

Slaps my forehead!

Just like 9/11.

And Bush is behind it all! Of course! Why didn't I see it before?

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who are these little down dinger pricks who never post?

I can't figure out why it dinged you.

re: #136 winston06

outbreeding with goats made it happen

true!

No. No more truces, cease-fires, or whatever you want to call it.

Win the damned war!

re: #154 MandyManners

I can't figure out why it dinged you.

That's when it pisses me off the most. I thought it was pretty innocuous.

Should sit on it.

So, Israel will be forced to halt by international pressure, and said pressure will prevent them attacking within the 48 hours regardless of rocket attacks. The Gazans (sorry, but you guys elected Hamas, so separating you from the terrorists is moot) will fire all they can during the first, say, 45 hours... then stop, and tell the world they've stopped. Until they start again, which will be the signal that they're ready to ambush IDF ground forces.

re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's when it pisses me off the most. I thought it was pretty innocuous.

Should sit on it.

No, squeeze the nasssty little squeaker, Preciousss.

/

Turn around slowly and walk away from the light.

re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey you! How's CV?

re: #159 Bill Jefferson

So, Israel will be forced to halt by international pressure, and said pressure will prevent them attacking within the 48 hours regardless of rocket attacks. The Gazans (sorry, but you guys elected Hamas, so separating you from the terrorists is moot) will fire all they can during the first, say, 45 hours... then stop, and tell the world they've stopped. Until they start again, which will be the signal that they're ready to ambush IDF ground forces.

Where did you see that?

re: #151 Wyatt Earp

You post. Down ding me all you want! I know it is done with thought.

I really shouldn't care about this, but I do.

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Well, "Bush is behind the Jews" is an interesting inversion of the traditional "O Muslim, there is a Jew behind this bush," at least.

I thought that was changed to "Juice" the other day?

You know, to fool all the Jihadis into chasing OJ...

re: #159 Bill Jefferson

That Palestinians apparently need time to rearm which is why they are clamoring for a truce.

re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's when it pisses me off the most. I thought it was pretty innocuous.

Should sit on it.

I try never to look at the ding count. More than anything else, just in case someone I don't know has dinged me down undeservedly.

I tend to ding hastily when trying to catch up with a thread, but I very seldom ding down.

re: #162 ggt

Fat'n'happy!

re: #147 FinallyHere

I am afraid, that IQ of Olmert, Livni, and Barak together is even lower. Even if you add IQ of Sharon, regardless before or after coma, it will still be low.
What IS should they have to present Gaza to
PLO/Hamas and South Lebanon to Hisb'Allah? What IQ do they have to repeat all the same mistakes they made during Lebanon War?

Ah now - let's cut them some slack - yes S Leb was a cluster F*ck but there was an AF Gen in charge - I think they have learned - the days and weeks that follow now will tell the tale.

Time for Ground Pounding and to hell with the whining from others!

re: #151 Wyatt Earp

When you were ranting, I considered throwing in a down-ding . . . just to give you a brain aneurysm. :)

Heh - I downdinged you to see it in the spy, then changed to an upding. The downding was shown, but the upding was not. Perhaps some of the down dinging is in error and corrected with an upding that does not show in the spy?

re: #170 Racer X

Heh - I downdinged you to see it in the spy, then changed to an upding. The downding was shown, but the upding was not. Perhaps some of the down dinging is in error and corrected with an upding that does not show in the spy?

Oh.

re: #166 Jetpilot1101

they r being armed by iran

re: #166 Jetpilot1101

That Palestinians apparently need time to rearm which is why they are clamoring for a truce.

Which means this is the time to go in and stomp. I'm really sick of this.

re: #167 Dianna

Thanks. Was brought to my attention. Otherwise wouldn't have known the little "snipey sniper" existed.

Some people, the Palestinians included, can only negotiate in one position: On the ground with your foot on their neck, and a gun pointed straight at their temporal lobe.

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You post. Down ding me all you want! I know it is done with thought.

I really shouldn't care about this, but I do.

I wouldn't do that - especially to something so tame. Had to rib you though. My Broncos fired Mike Shanahan today and I'm good and surly about it.

re: #170 Racer X

I thought you only got one ding...+ or -

re: #116 Archimedes

Postmodernism! The west=evil. Israel = the west.

Yes, of course.
It's just so utterly and completely unspeakably ridiculous - Israel is under "international pressure", but Hamas is not.

The Death to America crowd is on Market St. right now. All riiight.

re: #166 Jetpilot1101

That Palestinians apparently need time to rearm which is why they are clamoring for a truce.

I thought they were refusing a truce that wasn't offered. Vigorously.
(I'm late to this party)

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks. Was brought to my attention. Otherwise wouldn't have known the little "snipey sniper" existed.

Well, if you ever see me getting down-dinged, don't tell me! My ego's fragile enough as it stands!

re: #178 BignJames

I thought you only got one ding...+ or -

You can unding!

A brave Koskid writes a diary...
Have You Read the Hamas Charter?

But the rest of the koskidz can't be bothered with "facts"...

I doubt any faction has a written charter (5+ / 0-)
like the one above, but I have heard specific accounts of members of Hamas that are clearly more moderate in their views than the positions expressed in that charter. Unfortunately I don't have any links, I might try and do some research later.

...

Jihad simply means "struggle" (1+ / 0-)
and there is always going to be struggle against oppression. There is the jihad of the heart against evil, the jihad of the tongue against lies and propaganda, the jihad of the mind against evil, and armed jihad against oppression.

Muslims are obligated to struggle against oppression in any of these ways, if they find themselves victimized...

Etc, etc...

re: #131 Desert Dog

Well, that's good enough for me then! Those Hamas spokesmen are noted for their honesty and dignity. Those Israelis are pretty good to sneak over to Gaza and fire rockets at themselves without getting noticed or captured by Hamas. UGH!

What is really sickening is that someone, somewhere heard this guy say that shit and BELIEVED IT!

Oh, you'd better believe the entire staff at NPR did.

re: #174 Dianna

Which means this is the time to go in and stomp. I'm really sick of this.

Absolutely right. The Paleos are running low on rockets and need a cease fire so the convoys can roll in and smuggle arms under the guise of humanitarian aid.

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Well, "Bush is behind the Jews" is an interesting inversion of the traditional "O Muslim, there is a Jew behind this bush," at least.

I thought the saying was "Bush is behind the juice".

re: #183 OldLineTexan

You can unding!

You just can't neutralize.

re: #122 winston06

Hamas IQ is like 55

Too many cousins gettin' together over there in Hamastan.

re: #170 Racer X

Heh - I downdinged you to see it in the spy, then changed to an upding. The downding was shown, but the upding was not. Perhaps some of the down dinging is in error and corrected with an upding that does not show in the spy?

But FBV's point was that this downdinger never posts here. I think that riles him up more than the downding. Shame, too, because I used to eat at Arby's all the time. Heh.

re: #180 rawmuse

The Death to America crowd is on Market St. right now. All riiight.

Moan.

They never pick up after themselves, either.

re: #178 BignJames

I thought you only got one ding...+ or -

You can change a down ding to an up - and vice versa. End result is one ding.

re: #156 Dianna

No. No more truces, cease-fires, or whatever you want to call it.

Win the damned war!

Honey - FWIW - with your attitude and skills - I vote you (and your male) spear head it. We got your 6.

re: #183 OldLineTexan

You can unding!

No you can't! Otherwise, I'd only have two kids instead of four!

Oh, you meant here at LGF . . .

re: #184 Killgore Trout

Thanks, KT. I couldn't bear to go over there.

re: #184 Killgore Trout

If "ignorance is bliss," there should be one happy bunch over at DKos...

re: #181 jwb7605

I thought they were refusing a truce that wasn't offered. Vigorously.
(I'm late to this party)

They are resisting the truce because they want to look like big tough guys. They will wait for international pressure on Israel to force a cease fire. Either way, they need time to rearm. Rocks and bottles just don't stand up to tanks and F-16's.

Jihad means struggle. If it wasn't so sad it would be laughable.

Don't worry Veggie..You are my upding list for the holiday season...
If you say something stupider than my 16 yr. old then the deal is off

re: #170 Racer X

Heh - I downdinged you to see it in the spy, then changed to an upding. The downding was shown, but the upding was not. Perhaps some of the down dinging is in error and corrected with an upding that does not show in the spy?

The change does show up if you click on the "ding" number in the comment box where the ding (up or down) was given.

Sheesh - did that make any sense at all?

re: #195 Dianna

I think the comments are pretty funny.

re: #190 Wyatt Earp

But FBV's point was that this downdinger never posts here. I think that riles him up more than the downding. Shame, too, because I used to eat at Arby's all the time. Heh.

Man, Arby's brings back memories. For one thing, the smell of the food once it gets into your polyester uniform is not only epic, it's near-permanent. I had a girlfriend that worked at one for a while, and my dog WORSHIPPED her.

I call myself a "ding-a-ling." I'm often too lazy or busy to reply much to threads, but I upding stuff I like a lot.

re: #148 buzzsawmonkey

I want to see Hamas hoist the white flag.

And I want to see that flag in the form of a pair of snowy underdrawers from a Hamas leader, with a bend vert (heraldic for a green streak) where said leader has shat himself in fear.

The IDF should hoist the black flag.
No quarter for Hamas.

re: #182 Dianna

Well, if you ever see me getting down-dinged, don't tell me! My ego's fragile enough as it stands!

heh.

re: #127 ggt

Trixie is here?

How's the Little Miss? I feel like we never get to talk anymore ;(

Hiya, toots! *mwah* On just for a little bit as o-four-dark-thirty comes around waaay too early.

How's the menagerie and most important are YOU?

re: #129 Bobibutu

As it has been from day one ...

Memo to IDF - this time pound them to dust - screw the BS crap from "diplomats".

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result - are you nuts? Keep on keeping on - for once!

5-10-5

I'm not the smartest lizard on the rock...can you tell me what " 5-10-5" refers to?

re: #193 Bobibutu

Honey - FWIW - with your attitude and skills - I vote you (and your male) spear head it. We got your 6.

If I could somehow, all by my lonesome, convince the whole world to do what I say for just one week...

/right - and I'm the Queen of Numenor.

re: #200 reine.de.tout

The change does show up if you click on the "ding" number in the comment box where the ding (up or down) was given.

Sheesh - did that make any sense at all?

Yes made sense. Only the first ding is shown in the spy. Any subsequent changes to THAT ding do not show in the spy.

re: #184 Killgore Trout

A brave Koskid writes a diary...
Have You Read the Hamas Charter?

But the rest of the koskidz can't be bothered with "facts"...

Why be bothered with inconvenient facts when the propaganda fits their worldview like a glove?

Besides, facts make their widdle heads hurt.

:^(

Disclaimer. I am not an Israeli.

I was talking with a co-worker today when this came on the news, and noted with despair that "every time the Israelis get close to winning, they stop." He agreed. There's a LOT of silent Americans out there who support Israel.

I don't understand this fear of winning that's affected the West, but I hope we get over it before it's too late. This wasn't just a gesture ahead of the elections, was it?

re: #177 Wyatt Earp

I wouldn't do that - especially to something so tame. Had to rib you though. My Broncos fired Mike Shanahan today and I'm good and surly about it.

Mike Shanahan got fired? Puleaze!

Attention...check the talking dolls you gave your kids for Christmas.

Talking doll has a surprising message — 'Islam is the light'

BEAUFORT — A local woman went to the Walmart on Robert Smalls Parkway to buy a doll for her daughters this Christmas.

What she ended up with was a Mattel Fisher-Price Toys baby doll that says “Islam is the light.” Jennifer Calandra of Burton, 28, bought the doll for her 5-year-old and 7-year-old daughters shortly after Thanksgiving.

Calandra said she thought she was going crazy when she first heard the phrase about a week after buying the toy. She exchanged the $20 doll Dec. 22 for a new one, also from Walmart, thinking it could be a malfunction in the soundtrack of coos and baby babble. The second doll said the same thing.

Calandra is not the first to hear the Little Mommy Real Loving Baby Cuddle and Coo doll say, “Islam is the light.” Reports began popping up around the country this fall. Some reports say the dolls also say, “Satan is king.”

re: #210 buzzsawmonkey

One ding to rule them all, one ding bind them
One ding to take posters' words exactly how they find them
In the Land of Footballs where the comments lie.

Well played, sir!

=^D

re: #201 Killgore Trout

I think the comments are pretty funny.

They're hysterical, if one is in the dark, "humans are a bunch of bufoons" mode. I'm not, right now.

re: #213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mike Shanahan got fired? Puleaze!

I keep praying the Eagles would fire Fat Andy and scoop him up. Cowher is already talking to the Jets.

re: #197 Jetpilot1101

They are resisting the truce because they want to look like big tough guys. They will wait for international pressure on Israel to force a cease fire. Either way, they need time to rearm. Rocks and bottles just don't stand up to tanks and F-16's.

"the truce" is the part I'm blank on.
From what I've seen today, "international pressure" is lightweight to nonexistent. Except for France.

re: #202 OldLineTexan

Man, Arby's brings back memories. For one thing, the smell of the food once it gets into your polyester uniform is not only epic, it's near-permanent. I had a girlfriend that worked at one for a while, and my dog WORSHIPPED her.

This commercial is quite funny.

"Me likey"

re: #207 ornery elephant

I'm not the smartest lizard on the rock...can you tell me what " 5-10-5" refers to?

5 minus 10 equals -5?

re: #208 Dianna

If I could somehow, all by my lonesome, convince the whole world to do what I say for just one week...

/right - and I'm the Queen of Numenor.

Tar-Miriel?

Your Majesty...

re: #203 RememberSekhmet?

What does your moniker mean, if you don't mind me asking?

re: #202 OldLineTexan

Man, Arby's brings back memories. For one thing, the smell of the food once it gets into your polyester uniform is not only epic, it's near-permanent. I had a girlfriend that worked at one for a while, and my dog WORSHIPPED her.

LOL!
There are places I will not go into for lunch (Arby's is one of 'em) because once in there, your hair and clothes will smell like that place for the rest of the day.

re: #98 ornery elephant

That's pretty much it.

re: #199 HoosierHoops

Don't worry Veggie..You are my upding list for the holiday season...
If you say something stupider than my 16 yr. old then the deal is off

Well, that's pretty much a deal breaker aint it... ;P

5 - 10 - 5

Japanese numbers - Go - Ju - Go

used in '67

The only reason for a truce would be to not have to invade Gaza on the ground, which would be pointless, since Israel has no interest in keeping the ground they conquer.

Just keep punishing Hamas and their infrastructure from a distance. Oh, and maybe stop resupplying them and giving them food and money.

re: #223 reine.de.tout

LOL!
There are places I will not go into for lunch (Arby's is one of 'em) because once in there, your hair and clothes will smell like that place for the rest of the day.

I've never been more attracted to you than I am right now . . .

At what point does it make sense to just say:

"you have 48 hours to get out of gaza, we are gonna make it a wasteland."

Why tolerate a little shit hole stretch of sand between you and the water right in the middle of your country?

I just don't get it.

lllini 71 at Purdue 67 in 1 OT!

re: #214 NJDhockeyfan

Attention...check the talking dolls you gave your kids for Christmas.

Talking doll has a surprising message — 'Islam is the light'

I want to actually hear that with my own ears.

re: #226 jamgarr

5 - 10 - 5

Japanese numbers - Go - Ju - Go

used in '67

Thanks jam !

re: #86 ggt

I got distracted, are we all upstairs now?

I'll repost my previous request:

I'm trying to read about 'posse commitatus". Lizards, any insights and/or links would be most welcome.

are we still OT?

are baby aardvarks open for discussion?

Posse.

re: #223 reine.de.tout

LOL!
There are places I will not go into for lunch (Arby's is one of 'em) because once in there, your hair and clothes will smell like that place for the rest of the day.

I need to take you to lunch at El Palenque, known to a former female co-workwe as El Stinky's...ahhh, the good old days of $4.00 fajita Thursday with the endless smell of onions from a sizzling iron skillet in your hair and clothes...

I was running down the road trying
trying to leave my dings behind
When a kid in his mama basement
wouldn't leave my comments behind
Take it easy
Taken it easy
Don't let the sounds of errant dings of lizards
Drive you crazy
Lighten while you still can
Don't even try to understand
Just lighten I'm climbing in
and taken it easy

re: #214 NJDhockeyfan

Islam the light? Remember, BHO is supposed to be a "light worker".

A lot of light going around these days...

/

I hope they're bombing at the same time they are "considering." Thought they were serious this time.

re: #221 OldLineTexan

Tar-Miriel?

Your Majesty...

So you're prepared to do my bidding? Wheee!

I promise not to bring up the subservient chicken.

re: #227 rawmuse

The only reason for a truce would be to not have to invade Gaza on the ground, which would be pointless, since Israel has no interest in keeping the ground they conquer.

Just keep punishing Hamas and their infrastructure from a distance. Oh, and maybe stop resupplying them and giving them food and money.

I honestly wonder why the leadership in Israel hasn't ever thought of this incredibly trivial and common idea.

So Israel is in this a few days now. What is next? I don't think anyone wants to see an invasion by ground forces. If they do invade would it be like Hue City, house to house. What do they do about the people? How would they feed them? After the conflict dies down then what?They left Gaza once. Now the come back? Can they get Fatah to come back and man up and run Gaza like a real country? I don't have much faith in Abbas

re: #222 Basho

What does your moniker mean, if you don't mind me asking?

I'd love to know, too.

re: #228 Wyatt Earp

I've never been more attracted to you than I am right now . . .

Mon cher . . .

re: #219 Racer X

This commercial is quite funny.

"Me likey"

*snicker*

Upschwingding.

:D

re: #231 Dianna

I want to actually hear that with my own ears.

re: #219 Racer X

This commercial is quite funny.

"Me likey"

Until you have to explain it to your 10 year old and 7 year old. . .

re: #207 ornery elephant

I'm not the smartest lizard on the rock...can you tell me what " 5-10-5" refers to?

Back in the 67 crap - I was in Japan - saw a lot of people wearing pin buttons with 5-10-5 on them - I asked my Japanese associate what the gig was - he said - 5-10-5 was the Japanese pronouncing of Go Jew Go.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #86 ggt
Here's the latest disturbance... of Posse Comititus...
U.S. Military Preparing for Domestic Disturbances
[Link: www.voltairenet.org...]

re: #222 Basho

What does your moniker mean, if you don't mind me asking?

Kind of a funny story behind it:

9-11 changed a lot, including at the Pagan community center in which I used to participate. Yeah, Paganism is where I found Deity. For so many who say they are the followers of the ancient gods, they seem to prefer the butterflies and forget the chilera. They seem to call upon the gods of peace, and forget there are also gods of war. For those who call to Isis for peace, they forget Sekhmet, the goddess of war. All have Their place in the pantheon.

re: #238 Dianna

So you're prepared to do my bidding? Wheee!

I promise not to bring up the subservient chicken.

You name an enemy and I'll slay him, be it Man, Orc, Troll, or Elf. Even a wraith...anything you like.

re: #242 reine.de.tout

Mon cher . . .

"Tish, that's French . . . " :)

re: #244 Racer X

[Video]

Sigh.

No sound from videos...bloody Fedora.

re: #245 DisturbedEma

Until you have to explain it to your 10 year old and 7 year old. . .

Uh-oh.
Boing!

re: #245 DisturbedEma

Until you have to explain it to your 10 year old and 7 year old. . .

Crikey, that's easy.

"Girls, fat boy there OBVIOUSLY likes Arby's food."

Just starting this thread, so I don't know what others have said, but here are my thoughts:

I HOPE that the Israelis are offering the truce so that they can say they are playing ball with the esteemed Quartet (the U.S. the Yurps, the UN, and Russia). Then, when Hamas fails to stop the bottle rockets, the IDF can crash into Gaza like Bigfoot on steroids and mash the Hamas creeps into the ground.

If it were up to me, I would do maximum damage to large areas, leaving no building standing more than one inch high.

Yes, I know this challenges our very humanitarians selves to think about doing this. But I know in my heart of hearts that the Arabs will not respect the Israelis until they actually become scared of what they will do when they are angry.

re: #246 Bobibutu

Back in the 67 crap - I was in Japan - saw a lot of people wearing pin buttons with 5-10-5 on them - I asked my Japanese associate what the gig was - he said - 5-10-5 was the Japanese pronouncing of Go Jew Go.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Thanks a bunch Bobibutu

re: #103 Archimedes

This is death by a thousand tiny cuts. How many years, decades, has this been going on? It's lunacy. If Israel would deal with the problem once using overwhelming force it would probably be over. Imagine if that had been done decades ago! Imagine the lives saved!

Six decades, to be precise; it started in 1948.

WTF there are still Pali "refugees" after 60 years is because no one else wants them, and the Arabs find them useful tools against Israel.

The main reason the Arab leadership is down on Hamas this time around is because Hamas is backed by Iran, and the Arabs are getting very nervous about the Persians.

If Israel got truly serious about dealing with Hamas and Hezbollah, el cubo heads would explode all over the world. This is certainly not a bad thing.

Of course, leftist opinion doesn't follow any recognizable logic. Zombie has taken numerous pictures of GLBTs carrying Palestinian flags. They support people who would kill them in a heartbeat and oppose the existence of the only country in the region where they would not be harmed. Go figure.

re: #245 DisturbedEma

Until you have to explain it to your 10 year old and 7 year old. . .

"The man likes food. Wife brings it to him."

Explained.

Anything else?

re: #249 buzzsawmonkey

Chatty Cathy is now saying, "Where's my burkha?" ?

She better damned well not talk unless a man speaks to her, no?

OT - Blagojevich's General Counsel quits. Sorry if this is a repeat.

re: #254 OldLineTexan

Crikey, that's easy.

"Girls, fat boy there OBVIOUSLY likes Arby's food."

Tried that. . .why are they in bed and why is the hat boinging like that? sigh

Good evening, Lizards.

re: #259 OldLineTexan

She better damned well not talk unless a man speaks to her, no?

And she better lose the hot dog.

Honestly. 60 years counting from 1948.

This will be Never Ending at this rate. People dying at random all over the world because of this radical Islam cancer through to the end of freakin time.

It's not acceptable. The major powers of Free Societies must put an end to this nonsense.

Not everyone deserves to live. And I'm talking about useless Arab terrorists.

For every suicide bombing, a town of the terrorists is given sufficient notice to evacuate and then Whammo. No more town. Eventually, no more towns and nothing left but travelling vagabond caravans.