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1 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:24:53pm

It smells so much better up here!

2 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:34:57pm

from the Wiki:

Kubrick attended William Howard Taft High School from 1941–45. He was a poor student, with a meager 67 grade average.[9] He graduated from high school in 1945, but his poor grades, combined with the demand for college admissions from soldiers returning from the Second World War, eliminated any hopes of higher education. Later in life, Kubrick spoke disdainfully of his education and of education in general, maintaining that nothing about school interested him.[8] His parents sent him to live with relatives for a year in Los Angeles in the hopes that it would help his academic growth.

3 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:38:59pm

I like the quote. Not a huge Kubrick fan but it's a good one.

4 Alaska Kim  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:39:34pm

howdy y'all.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:40:09pm

re: #4 Alaska Kim

howdy y'all.

Evenin'.

6 Alaska Kim  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:41:13pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Evenin'.

never been to San Francisco.

7 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:42:44pm

Alaska Kim... there's a nic i haven't seen in years...

8 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:42:50pm

re: #2 ggt

from the Wiki:

Well, that explains a whole lot about him and his movies.

And on that note, adeau, till tomorrow.

9 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:43:56pm

re: #6 Alaska Kim

never been to San Francisco.

Well, I've never been to Alaska.

Some friends went a couple years ago. Said it was gorgeous.

10 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:43:59pm

re: #4 Alaska Kim

howdy y'all.

Oh, now I need to stick around for the funzies. Humor value just went through the roof.

11 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:45:15pm

Funny thing I realized about my fiction writing and thinking is that I think in the Joycean stream of consciousness. Funny because I've only read two works by Joyce and they were both short stories from Dubliners. Despite my general affinity for Irish culture and a possible relation to Joyce, I've never been a huge fan. Always was a more romantic like uh Yeats.

12 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:46:27pm

sci-fi all the way, here.

Only I've read so much I can't remember simple things like what author wrote what . . . .

it all kinda runs together in a Kubrick kind of way.

13 Alaska Kim  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:47:03pm

re: #10 wlewisiii

Oh, now I need to stick around for the funzies. Humor value just went through the roof.

you're easily entertained.

14 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:49:40pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I've never been to Alaska.

Some friends went a couple years ago. Said it was gorgeous.

I took a cruise up there. It is true frontier living, a short trip out of any town and you are in total wilderness with frontiersmen living the frontier life. I loved dog-sledding on a glacier. I don't think I could do it for the rest of my life though. I visit SF a few times a year. I couldn't live there the rest of my life either. Both are awesome to visit though.

15 Alaska Kim  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:50:26pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I've never been to Alaska.

Some friends went a couple years ago. Said it was gorgeous.


It is. been here all my life.

16 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:50:34pm

re: #13 Alaska Kim

you're easily entertained.

Yep :D

17 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:51:06pm

That's why I like Bach.

18 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:51:18pm

Re: Alaska, my aunt went up there on a cruise uh last year. Drew some beautiful colored pencil sketches. Alaska seems like it would be a beautiful state to see but I wouldn't want to live there. Too cold. A lot of ocean but ocean you can't swim or body-surf in. Plus, to get around from my understanding you have to use small planes. I don't have a fear of flying like I did as a kid but flying around in small planes constantly would make me nervous.

19 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:52:13pm

I'd like to see the Aurora.

Not sure my back would survive the trip to see it tho.

Getting old sucks in may ways.

Is cool in ways too.

20 engineer cat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:53:43pm

re: #17 wlewisiii

That's why I like Bach.

j.s.?

21 Alaska Kim  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:53:43pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

Re: Alaska, my aunt went up there on a cruise uh last year. Drew some beautiful colored pencil sketches. Alaska seems like it would be a beautiful state to see but I wouldn't want to live there. Too cold. A lot of ocean but ocean you can't swim or body-surf in. Plus, to get around from my understanding you have to use small planes. I don't have a fear of flying like I did as a kid but flying around in small planes constantly would make me nervous.

i live in juneau, laska airlines flies in here, and we also have the alaska marine hwy. you only use small planes for really small towns.

22 lostlakehiker  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:53:44pm

re: #14 mracb

I took a cruise up there. It is true frontier living, a short trip out of any town and you are in total wilderness with frontiersmen living the frontier life. I loved dog-sledding on a glacier. I don't think I could do it for the rest of my life though. I visit SF a few times a year. I couldn't live there the rest of my life either. Both are awesome to visit though.

Both are expensive to live in, though for different reasons. It's not like San Francisco is hard to get to, and it's not like there's just no room to put up more housing in AK.

Any place that's convenient, has good natural advantages, etc., and spacious, will simply be layered with people and used for day to day purposes pretty intensely. Hence, Illinois.

23 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:55:09pm

re: #19 ggt

I'd like to see the Aurora.

Not sure my back would survive the trip to see it tho.

Getting old sucks in may ways.

Is cool in ways too.

I saw some aurora in a small fishing boat on a lake in Canada. I was in awe, my cousin wouldn't even look up. He said, "This is nothing, you should see it when it really starts going." Damn Aurora snobs.

24 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:56:58pm

re: #22 lostlakehiker

Both are expensive to live in, though for different reasons. It's not like San Francisco is hard to get to, and it's not like there's just no room to put up more housing in AK.

Any place that's convenient, has good natural advantages, etc., and spacious, will simply be layered with people and used for day to day purposes pretty intensely. Hence, Illinois.

I live 30 miles from SF. I'll probably wind up retiring to Missouri. I can probably afford there better.

25 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:57:55pm

re: #24 mracb

Yet another Bay Area Lizard. I've always been pleasantly amazed at how many there are of us.

26 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 10:58:53pm

re: #25 Querent

Yet another Bay Area Lizard. I've always been pleasantly amazed at how many there are of us.

Illinois too!

27 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:00:48pm

re: #25 Querent

Yet another Bay Area Lizard. I've always been pleasantly amazed at how many there are of us.

Well there are 7 million of us in the 9 Bay Area counties.

28 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:01:09pm

re: #27 mracb

Well there are 7 million of us in the 9 Bay Area counties.

LIZARDs?

29 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:01:20pm

re: #27 mracb

Well there are 7 million of us in the 9 Bay Area counties.

but how many of them are scaly denizens of the LGF discussion threads?

30 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:01:47pm

re: #27 mracb

Well there are 7 million of us in the 9 Bay Area counties.

I'm surprised at the under-representation of LA metro area.

31 engineer cat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:01:47pm

re: #25 Querent

Yet another Bay Area Lizard. I've always been pleasantly amazed at how many there are of us.

oakland here

32 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:02:54pm

re: #31 engineer dog

oakland here

paging Bobibutu to the Green Courtesy Phone -- it's high time for another Lizard Meet...

33 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:02:59pm

re: #31 engineer dog

oakland here

home of the matrtini, here

34 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:04:14pm

Greater Siliconia (AKA San Jose)

35 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:06:02pm

re: #34 Querent

Greater Siliconia (AKA San Jose)

When I see your name I think of my Bluetooth headset. BlueAnt Q2.

36 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:06:56pm

Night.

37 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:07:16pm

re: #35 mracb
okay... just picture Lt. Uhura too...

B )

38 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:07:41pm

'night HW -- keep fighting the good fight...

39 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:08:09pm

re: #37 Querent

okay... just picture Lt. Uhura too...

B )

OK, that turns me on. Is that wrong?

40 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:09:13pm

re: #37 Querent

okay... just picture Lt. Uhura too...

B )

I always think of her with the bluetooth headset. I also think of my iphone 4 as a tri-corder.

41 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:09:16pm

re: #39 mracb

Nope -- you're in good company w/ thousands of SF geeks.

But every time i see someone with a Bluetooth sticking out of their ear, i think of Uhura.

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:09:24pm

re: #31 engineer dog

oakland here

We've got to have a get-together.

43 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:10:08pm

re: #40 mracb

I always think of her with the bluetooth headset. I also think of my iphone 4 as a tri-corder.


Ah... but do you have the communicator click as a ringtone?

44 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:11:21pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

We've got to have a get-together.


i remember the one Bobibutu hosted at his place -- it was the year that i made the Troofer Halloween costume.

Complete with tinfoil helmet.

45 AK-47%  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:11:33pm

Santorum is whining about why Sarah and Mich didn't get suspended.

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

I dunno, Rick, why not Google it?

46 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:13:06pm

re: #43 Querent

Ah... but do you have the communicator click as a ringtone?

Ah hah, I finally got a phone that did more than a phone call. First I had the ALARM ring tone. It went off in a meeting and everybody was looking for the emergency exit. I switched to a song. I couldn't tell if the song was from my playlist on the ipod app or somebody phoning. I'm back at the ALARM. I'm going to have to search out the communicator click.

47 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:13:55pm

re: #43 Querent

Ah... but do you have the communicator click as a ringtone?

My girlfriend got that as a ringtone on her Android for free. She uses other Star-trek sounds too!

I don't have the time.

48 engineer cat  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:14:05pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

We've got to have a get-together.

the city has some too cool bars

i like tadich's

49 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:14:37pm

re: #46 mracb
at least one of my fellow geeks has it.

(Me, i'm just lucky to have my 'dumbphone')

50 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:15:33pm

I feel like fortunate I figured out how to use my iPhone.

Contacts are still screwed-up tho.

Just doesn't work the way a Blackberry does.

51 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:15:35pm

re: #43 Querent

Ah... but do you have the communicator click as a ringtone?

I have better than that. I have a communicator app on my iPhone.

/Trek nerd

52 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:16:01pm

OK I have another day of work left and it is past my bedtime. Have a good night lizards.

53 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:16:13pm

re: #51 Lidane

I have better than that. I have a communicator app on my iPhone.

/Trek nerd

:: bows :: "we're not worthy..."

That's cool.

54 Big Joe  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:16:52pm

re: #51 Lidane

I have better than that. I have a communicator app on my iPhone.

/Trek nerd

I bookmarked that for tomorrow.

55 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:17:54pm

re: #53 Querent

:: bows :: "we're not worthy..."

That's cool.

I want the ring tones for iPhone.

I also want the blue-tooth that will work for iTunes on my iPhone.

by the time I get around to doing all this, the iPhone and iTunes will be obsolete. Another 3-4 years or so, I am guessing.

56 Alexzander  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:19:12pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Funny thing I realized about my fiction writing and thinking is that I think in the Joycean stream of consciousness. Funny because I've only read two works by Joyce and they were both short stories from Dubliners. Despite my general affinity for Irish culture and a possible relation to Joyce, I've never been a huge fan. Always was a more romantic like uh Yeats.

Everyone experiences the world in the 'stream of consciousness' form; Joyce was just one (of many) writers who attempted to more accurately portray this on the page. It would be bizarre if you didn't think/experience the world through a stream of consciousness.

57 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:19:40pm

re: #55 ggt
heck, i want a widget that makes AOL say "You've Got Spam!", classifies everything i want to keep as "baked beans", says "baked beans are off" when i delete something, and "bloody Vikings" when i empty the Deleted folder.

58 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:20:56pm

re: #57 Querent

heck, i want a widget that makes AOL say "You've Got Spam!", classifies everything i want to keep as "baked beans", says "baked beans are off" when i delete something, and "bloody Vikings" when i empty the Deleted folder.

You can probably get that done if you found the right teenager and paid him enuf.

59 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:23:07pm

re: #58 ggt

You can probably get that done if you found the right teenager and paid him enuf.

Probably. And if he/she wants a repeat gig, i've got some animation that needs to be done for a ... a science project. yeah, a science project.

(no, really, it is for science!)

60 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:23:08pm

re: #57 Querent

heck, i want a widget that makes AOL say "You've Got Spam!", classifies everything i want to keep as "baked beans", says "baked beans are off" when i delete something, and "bloody Vikings" when i empty the Deleted folder.

You have AOL?

61 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:23:56pm

re: #56 Alexzander

Everyone experiences the world in the 'stream of consciousness' form; Joyce was just one (of many) writers who attempted to more accurately portray this on the page. It would be bizarre if you didn't think/experience the world through a stream of consciousness.

"stream of consciousness" makes me think about the 80's.

It's all one blur.

62 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:24:53pm

re: #60 ggt
yep.
it amuses me. (long story that goes back to the Reagan era and the days of CompuServe and Prodigy and AppleLink)
and so does Pirate Facebook.

63 Lidane  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:25:12pm

re: #40 mracb

I always think of her with the bluetooth headset. I also think of my iphone 4 as a tri-corder.

Speaking of:

Live Long and Prosper Bluetooth Earpiece

64 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:28:27pm

re: #62 Querent

yep.
it amuses me. (long story that goes back to the Reagan era and the days of CompuServe and Prodigy and AppleLink)
and so does Pirate Facebook.


When I first got on-line in the mid-90's, I thought AOL was the most awesome thing in the world.

Now a short 15 years later, I'm on LGF thru something called Modzilla.

I don't understand a byte of it. . . . .

65 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:29:54pm

re: #63 Lidane

Speaking of:

Live Long and Prosper Bluetooth Earpiece

but will it work with iTunes for iPhone?

66 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:31:46pm

re: #64 ggt
Late '80s; had a friend who was working on adapting the board game Cosmic Encounter for play on AppleLink.

AppleLink, CompuServe, Prodigy and something else all got assimilated into the monster that would be known as America OnLine, and all us old-school folks hated it...

...until my bank got into it and sent me free disks. Then i relented.

(of course it would be another ten years before they worked enough bugs out of online banking that i would give THAT a try.)

67 Querent  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:34:57pm

urrgh... time to crawl back into my lair and call it a night.

live long and prosper my scaly friends...

68 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:35:30pm

speaking of getting old . . .

I used to have a VHS player that had a flashing 12:00. I got the 5th grader next door to program the time. The power would go out and I'd call him over to fix it.

I finally had a child of my own and when he was old enough to fix my VHS flashing 12:00, I no longer had a VSH, but a DVD. I mostly used the remote to open and close the drawer and freak-out the cat.

Then we got on-demand and my kid would "help' me with the remote.

NOW my kid has a Play-Station that plays the Blue-Rays we occassionally rent OR we access Net-flix thru it, OR we watch on the computer. (still living with a box-like TV that is not the appropriate technology according to my teenager--I haven't an idea what the technology is named).

Can't even find most movies at the local Blockbuster because they are nearly empty and I don't know how they stay in business. Must make more sense to stay open because of property rental contracts or something.

If I want to watch a movie, I have to wait til my kid is around because I can't even figure out how to turn on the Play-Station.

I can, however, still find C-SPAN and watch it.

www.c-span.org.

69 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:39:24pm

re: #66 Querent

Late '80s; had a friend who was working on adapting the board game Cosmic Encounter for play on AppleLink.

AppleLink, CompuServe, Prodigy and something else all got assimilated into the monster that would be known as America OnLine, and all us old-school folks hated it...

...until my bank got into it and sent me free disks. Then i relented.

(of course it would be another ten years before they worked enough bugs out of online banking that i would give THAT a try.)

Been on-line banking since mid-90's as well.

Really, not doing it makes no sense to me anymore. Even if you go to the bank to make transactions, they do it on the internet.

70 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:43:18pm

re: #69 ggt

Been on-line banking since mid-90's as well.

Really, not doing it makes no sense to me anymore. Even if you go to the bank to make transactions, they do it on the internet.

I'm an early adapter when it comes to technology, at least using it to it's fullness when I can afford it. I was on the "internet" in 1979, my Ebay account was opened March 1995 and I have been banking online and paying bills online from the first time I was able.

71 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:54:05pm

Welcome to my world . . .


There was a day in the first week of my own detoxification when I walked into the living room four times in a row to get my phone, but each time I forgot to pick it up. We've all done that before, right? The difference is that mine was ringing at the time.


Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_18824_5-things-nobody-tells-you-about-quitting-drinking_p2.html#ixzz1FcCk7PFk

and I quit drinking years ago . . .

72 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:54:43pm

re: #70 Walter L. Newton

I'm an early adapter when it comes to technology, at least using it to it's fullness when I can afford it. I was on the "internet" in 1979, my Ebay account was opened March 1995 and I have been banking online and paying bills online from the first time I was able.

Hey Walter,

how are you this evening?

73 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:57:24pm

Walter and all . . .

I'm too tired, I have to go to bed.

I hope you all have a wonderful morning and the rest of the day.

74 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:57:56pm

re: #72 ggt

Hey Walter,

how are you this evening?

Just got home from a 7-midnight shift... all cashiering. I only stock on Sat.-Sun overnights, help the night crew by taking care of the coffee/cereal aisle by myself, between babysitting self-scan and one regular check stand.

I like a job where they let me use a knife... (low scary chuckle).

75 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 3, 2011 11:59:01pm

re: #73 ggt

Walter and all . . .

I'm too tired, I have to go to bed.

I hope you all have a wonderful morning and the rest of the day.

Ok... well me too. Busy night, I'm tired.

76 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 12:01:27am

re: #70 Walter L. Newton

I'm an early adapter when it comes to technology, at least using it to it's fullness when I can afford it. I was on the "internet" in 1979, my Ebay account was opened March 1995 and I have been banking online and paying bills online from the first time I was able.

79?

What ARPA net node were you at?

Just curious. While I knew of the old days, by the time I came online, thankfully before "Eternal September", most of the old ways had passed away.

77 freetoken  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 2:42:02am
MP3 Audio
78 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 2:50:33am

Why entrepreneurs like socialism.*


*note, this is the new, modern use of 'socialism', which basically means high taxes and a broad social safety net.

79 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:31:36am

re: #70 Walter L. Newton

re: #76 wlewisiii

79?

What ARPA net node were you at?

Just curious. While I knew of the old days, by the time I came online, thankfully before "Eternal September", most of the old ways had passed away.

Walter is so old that his first "tablet" was actually a "tablet"!!!

80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:36:37am

Whatcha doin? Hibernatin'?

(I've never seen Bambi)

81 researchok  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:37:17am

Morning, all

82 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:39:40am

re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whatcha doin? Hibernatin'?

(I've never seen Bambi)

Thsi time of year, there are lots of them on the sides of roads!!

((don't know why ,, they have their own places to cross the street,.,, they have signs everywhere for that!!)

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:42:39am

re: #82 sattv4u2

I had always been told that you can't eat a deer after it's been hit by a car. Found out that is just an old wive's tale. My brother-in-law (upper NY State Redneck) said the only thing that matters is how long it takes to bleed it.

ENJOY YOUR SAUSAGE PATTIES!

84 steve  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:46:34am

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

Just got home from a 7-midnight shift... all cashiering. I only stock on Sat.-Sun overnights, help the night crew by taking care of the coffee/cereal aisle by myself, between babysitting self-scan and one regular check stand.

I like a job where they let me use a knife... (low scary chuckle).

Well, atleast you are home! I still have 2.5 hours to go. Not only do I get a razor knife but I have lots of chemicals to umm....watch.

85 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:46:46am

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had always been told that you can't eat a deer after it's been hit by a car. Found out that is just an old wive's tale. My brother-in-law (upper NY State Redneck) said the only thing that matters is how long it takes to bleed it.
ENJOY YOUR SAUSAGE PATTIES!

That and how long ago it was hit

Friend of mines wife hit one right at the head of their driveway one very early morning. He immediatly went and got it, brought it into this shop and carved it up

We had venison stew that night

86 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:49:12am

re: #84 steve

Well, atleast you are home! I still have 2.5 hours to go. Not only do I get a razor knife but I have lots of chemicals to umm...watch.

3 hours and 15 minutes "to go" for me (after being here already for 10 hours and 15 minutes)

I trump the razor knives and chemicals (of which we have both) with an entire slew of electrical components I have to regularly stick my hands into

87 steve  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:53:52am

re: #86 sattv4u2

3 hours and 15 minutes "to go" for me (after being here already for 10 hours and 15 minutes)

I trump the razor knives and chemicals (of which we have both) with an entire slew of electrical components I have to regularly stick my hands into

Lucky you. I'm just sittin here making water, treating the waste and making sure the rest of the employees do not breath the fumes off of the benches. Other then that, I do not stick my hand into anything;-)

88 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:54:01am

Good Morning Honcos!

89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:57:55am

re: #88 rwdflynavy

Congrats on the anniversary...

90 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:58:11am

re: #88 rwdflynavy

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Congrats on the anniversary...

Que??

91 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 3:59:22am

re: #90 sattv4u2

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Que??


Thanks FBV, I hit 20 years with my bride 2 days ago. Since I'm a ding whore, I hit the top ten comments!

92 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:00:11am

re: #91 rwdflynavy

Thanks FBV, I hit 20 years with my bride 2 days ago. Since I'm a ding whore, I hit the top ten comments!

Cool and Congrats!!

here,, have another!!

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:05:41am

"A Mighty Wind" is on. Geeze, it's a hoot.

94 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:06:40am

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"A Mighty Wind" is on. Geeze, it's a hoot.

Story of a teenage boy after a night of eating chili and drinking a case of soda!?!?!

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:08:27am

re: #94 sattv4u2

Why yes. That is exactly what that is.

96 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:09:22am

Morning Lizards.

Have I ever mentioned how much I hate learning a new OS? Because right now I really, really REALLY HATE Windows 7.

97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:10:06am

re: #87 steve

Lucky you. I'm just sittin here making water

May I suggest Imodium?

98 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:16:34am

A breakfast Burrito from Quik Trip

Not bad,, not bad at all!
((their hot dogs are always so tempting also,,, especially at 2 for $2,,, but oh the price I pay later!!))

99 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:17:39am

re: #91 rwdflynavy

Thanks FBV, I hit 20 years with my bride 2 days ago. Since I'm a ding whore, I hit the top ten comments!

20 years is exceptionally impressive for a military couple. That's hard to do.

100 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:20:50am

re: #99 RogueOne

20 years is exceptionally impressive for a military couple. That's hard to do.

Plus 3 boys, 1 of whom has autism ;)

101 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:28:15am

re: #100 rwdflynavy

Plus 3 boys, 1 of whom has autism ;)

HUGE hat tip to you

having only one boy without autism and NOT being a military family is stressful enough.

102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:32:12am

re: #101 sattv4u2

(don't get too gushy. it's the wife who's making that work. one of them's always flying around in toys)
/

103 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:35:20am

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(don't get too gushy. it's the wife who's making that work. one of them's always flying around in toys)
/

LOl

yeah, but "/" aside, my wife has been a stayathome mom since we moved to Atlanta and the one that "makes it work". Doesn't stop me from thinking/worrying about things while I'm at work and even there I don't have to worry about the takeoff and landing!!!

104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:38:28am

re: #103 sattv4u2

Helluva point, that.

105 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:42:58am

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Helluva point, that.

I have my moments of lucidity!

106 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:56:16am

re: #105 sattv4u2

I have my moments of lucidity!

Okay ,, maybe not!

107 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 4:56:45am

Morning all.

Here's your Friday morning Krugman, talking about our fragile economic recovery:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Some highlights:

The clear and present danger to recovery, however, comes from politics — specifically, the demand from House Republicans that the government immediately slash spending on infant nutrition, disease control, clean water and more. Quite aside from their negative long-run consequences, these cuts would lead, directly and indirectly, to the elimination of hundreds of thousands of jobs — and this could short-circuit the virtuous circle of rising incomes and improving finances.

Of course, Republicans believe, or at least pretend to believe, that the direct job-destroying effects of their proposals would be more than offset by a rise in business confidence. As I like to put it, they believe that the Confidence Fairy will make everything all right.

108 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:12:40am

Soldier in Leaks Case Was Jailed Naked, Lawyer Says
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]


A lawyer for Pfc. Bradley Manning, the Army intelligence analyst accused of leaking secret government files to WikiLeaks, has complained that his client was stripped and left naked in his cell for seven hours on Wednesday.
......
The conditions of Private Manning’s confinement at the Marine brig in Quantico, Va., have drawn criticism in recent months from supporters and his lawyer, David E. Coombs.

The soldier’s clothing was returned to him Thursday morning, after he was required to stand naked outside his cell during an inspection, Mr. Coombs said in a posting on his Web site.

109 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:13:04am

re: #107 garhighway
Everybody has got an opinon:
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
I'm indifferent.

110 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:13:55am

It took me an hour to get in to work this morning. The entire highway at Dearborn is shut down, I counted over 10 vehicles spun out at the side of the road. A car spun out right in front of me. The road was like a freaking hockey rink, with car-sized pucks.

I would rather drive in a foot of snow than in this shit.

111 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:18:07am

re: #110 Alouette

It took me an hour to get in to work this morning. The entire highway at Dearborn is shut down, I counted over 10 vehicles spun out at the side of the road. A car spun out right in front of me. The road was like a freaking hockey rink, with car-sized pucks.

I would rather drive in a foot of snow than in this shit.

Glad you made in in unscathed (cept for a rattled nerve or two)

get a cup of coffee/tea, sit back and relax!

112 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:18:45am

re: #109 Shropshire_Slasher

Everybody has got an opinon:
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
I'm indifferent.

I'm in work!

113 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:20:04am

re: #111 sattv4u2

Glad you made in in unscathed (cept for a rattled nerve or two)

get a cup of coffee/tea, sit back and relax!

While I was stuck in traffic I was contemplating putting my car in park, getting out fetching my thermos of coffee from the back seat.

Next time: coffee in the cup holder!

114 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:20:39am

re: #113 Alouette

While I was stuck in traffic I was contemplating putting my car in park, getting out fetching my thermos of coffee from the back seat.

Next time: coffee in the cup holder!

ALWAYS !

115 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:25:59am

'Morning, all. my school-teacher daughter (union thug) informs me it's National Grammar Day. In its honor, I will PIMF at least once today.

116 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:27:29am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

'Morning, all. my school-teacher daughter (union thug) informs me it's National Grammar Day. In its honor, I will PIMF at least once today.

me is do-ink da saym!

117 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:27:41am

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

Just got home from a 7-midnight shift... all cashiering. I only stock on Sat.-Sun overnights, help the night crew by taking care of the coffee/cereal aisle by myself, between babysitting self-scan and one regular check stand.

I like a job where they let me use a knife... (low scary chuckle).

I like throwing breakable things into the dumpster!

morning all!

118 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:32:13am

re: #117 ggt

I like throwing breakable things into the dumpster!

morning all!

odd hobby, that

119 tnguitarist  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:33:21am

Anybody seen this yet?

Oh, Newt..

120 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:37:24am

bbiab

121 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:39:19am

Here's the short, dramatic dialogue of Daughter Two getting medicine for her 7-month old:

Doc: 'Here's your prescription and your bill.'
Pharm: 'That's $95.00, let me clear it with your Blue Cross."
BC: 'That's available Over-the-Counter.'
Daughter: 'Gimme the OTC.'
Pharm: 'No. It's prescription, call the doc'.
Doc: 'No. I want the prescription'.
BC: 'No.'
Pharm: '$95.00.'
Daughter: 'Don't have'.
Kid: 'Cough, cough.'
(replay ad lib for 4 days)

122 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:41:30am

Obama administration prepares for possibility of new post-revolt Islamist regimes
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]


The Obama administration is preparing for the prospect that Islamist governments will take hold in North Africa and the Middle East, acknowledging that the popular revolutions there will bring a more religious cast to the region's politics.

The administration is already taking steps to distinguish between various movements in the region that promote Islamic law in government. An internal assessment, ordered by the White House last month, identified large ideological differences between such movements as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and al-Qaeda that will guide the U.S. approach to the region.
.....
None of the revolutions over the past several weeks has been overtly Islamist, but there are signs that the uprisings could give way to more religious forces. An influential Yemeni cleric called this week for the U.S.-backed administration of President Ali Abdullah Saleh to be replaced with Islamist rule, and in Egypt, an Islamist theoretician has a leading role in drafting constitutional changes after President Hosni Mubarak's fall from power last month.

123 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:44:08am

re: #122 RogueOne

Obama administration prepares for possibility of new post-revolt Islamist regimes
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

"Sharia: Can't live with it, can't get oil without it."

124 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:46:07am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

"Sharia: Can't live with it, can't get oil without it."

I didn't know Sharia was in the ANWR region of Alaska!!!!

125 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:47:19am

re: #124 sattv4u2

I didn't know Sharia was in the ANWR region of Alaska!!!

Not much Sharia, and not much oil.

126 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:47:23am

Some good news, unemployment down:
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

127 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:50:07am

re: #126 Shropshire_Slasher

U.S. Added 192,000 Jobs in February; Rate at 8.9%
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]


The unemployment rate ticked down to 8.9 percent, falling below 9 percent for the first time in nearly two years .
.......
A broader measure of unemployment, which includes people working part-time because they could not find full-time jobs and those so discouraged that they have given up searching, was 15.9 percent in February, down from 16.1 percent in January.

128 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:50:46am

re: #126 Shropshire_Slasher

Some good news, unemployment down:
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

We can fix that--give Rep Ryan and gov Walker the budget.

129 Girth  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 5:54:48am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

We can fix that--give Rep Ryan and gov Walker the budget.

Come now...we all know that for every government job cut two are created in the private sector and an angel gets its wings.

130 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:11:04am

re: #122 RogueOne
re: #123 Decatur Deb

And on nuclear energy and more alternatives to oil for electricity and heating...
Crickets. Damn.

131 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:11:13am

re: #129 Girth


The economy added 192,000 jobs last month, with factories, professional and business services, education and health care among those expanding employment. Retailers, however, trimmed jobs. State and local government, wrestling with budget shortfalls, slashed 30,000 jobs, the most since November.

192,000-30,000=162,000 private sector jobs....that's a ton of angel wings. As an experiment lets slash another 30k government jobs (Wisconsin is doing it's part with 1500) and see what happens.

132 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:13:03am

re: #3 HappyWarrior

I like the quote. Not a huge Kubrick fan but it's a good one.

His second movie, Paths of Glory is one of my all time faves. I rarely watch it though because it reduces me to tears every time.

Youtube Video
133 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:14:27am

re: #130 Rightwingconspirator

re: #123 Decatur Deb

And on nuclear energy and more alternatives to oil for electricity and heating...
Crickets. Damn.

We're 20 miles from a nuke--got no problem with fission, but I'd like to see the Navy run them, not the mafia. (I love explaining to conservatives that widespread nuclear is absolutely a driver for BIG GOVERNMENT at every step of the life-cycle.)

134 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:15:16am

Kitco the excellent source for precious metals market info and Canadian source for precious metals for manufacturing has a new feature. A direct chart chowing how market shifts by their cause for a far better perspective on what is really happening. Kudos to them.

[Link: www.kitco.com...]

135 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:15:30am

re: #2 ggt

from the Wiki:

As another person who never did well in school, I can relate.

136 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:16:06am

re: #132 Romantic Heretic

His second movie, Paths of Glory is one of my all time faves. I rarely watch it though because it reduces me to tears every time.


[Video]

Great flick, though Douglas' Hollywood-tailored field uniform was disconcerting.

137 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:16:49am

re: #131 RogueOne

Gov. Cuomo wants to slash 10k state employees here in New York (I didn't say state workers, that implies too much)

138 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:18:05am

Bill Gates moves to the dark side:

Bill Gates On States' Accounting: 'The Guys At Enron Never Would Have Done This'
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]


During a second appearance onstage at the annual TED conference, Bill Gates spoke out against worsening state budget deficits caused by accounting "tricks" he said would make Enron's former executives blush.

The Microsoft co-founder and philanthropist said state budgets have received a puzzling lack of scrutiny and have been "riddled with gimmicks" aimed at deferring or disguising the true costs of public employees' health care and pension obligations, citing California's ongoing budget crisis as an example of creative deficit spending and the subsequent cuts to education spending as an unacceptable cost.

"[R]eally, when you get down to it, the guys at Enron never would have done this. This is so blatant, so extreme," Gates said of state governments' accounting practices generally. "Is anyone paying attention to some of the things these guys do? They borrow money -- they're not supposed to, but they figure out a way -- they make you pay more in withholding to help their cashflow out, they sell off the assets, they defer the payments, they sell off the revenues from tobacco."

139 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:18:48am

re: #19 ggt

I'd like to see the Aurora.

Not sure my back would survive the trip to see it tho.

Getting old sucks in may ways.

Is cool in ways too.

I lived in a place called Prince George in northern British Columbia for several years. The Aurora is a common sight in the winter there. It's worth the cold.

On very quiet nights, if your hearing is good, you can listen to it as well.

140 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:19:04am

re: #137 Shropshire_Slasher

(I didn't say state workers, that implies too much)

I favorited that for later use

141 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:19:31am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Considering the middle east and AGW, it's a matter of life or death for countless people. And lets not forget the casualties in coal mines and drilling platforms.
The distinction of management is competence rather than private/govt/military. Of course nobody is more careful than a navy nuke tech 500 feet underwater and thousands of miles from help.

142 laZardo  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:23:42am

Anon thread of the moment: What happens when the wave of rebellion in the Middle East spreads to the playground of a certain 1990s cartoon?

[Note: Nothing really NSFW as of this comment's posting.]

143 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:23:51am

re: #138 RogueOne

The Enron comparison was unnecessary and hyperbolic. But he is exactly right on the rest. One of the worst things Jerry Brown did (1st term as gov back when) was take gasoline tax revenues away from highway construction and maintenance and roll them into the general fund. Arguably his worst move ever.

144 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:26:10am

re: #141 Rightwingconspirator

Considering the middle east and AGW, it's a matter of life or death for countless people. And lets not forget the casualties in coal mines and drilling platforms.
The distinction of management is competence rather than private/govt/military. Of course nobody is more careful than a navy nuke tech 500 feet underwater and thousands of miles from help.

I spent a lot of time with Army nuclear WOs, have a lot of respect for them. (My Texas A&M "gentleman's" RPO course depended on promising the prof that I would never actually calculate shielding in the real world.)

145 Girth  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:28:01am

re: #131 RogueOne

192,000-30,000=162,000 private sector jobs...that's a ton of angel wings. As an experiment lets slash another 30k government jobs (Wisconsin is doing it's part with 1500) and see what happens.

For my experiment I'm going to carry a magic pine cone around with me all this month and when private sector jobs increase I'll claim that the pine cone was responsible.

146 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:41:42am

re: #145 Girth

but what about the angels wings? Why do you hate angels?

147 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:43:59am

QFT
Bill Gates
While California spends more than $100 billion a year, far less brainpower goes into studying the accounting and the wisdom of spending decisions than at two much smaller enterprises – Microsoft and Google, Gates said. States should be held to the same accounting principles as those which apply to private companies, he said.

For perspective

100 billion divided by 37 million = 2 702.7027

148 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:44:42am

re: #126 Shropshire_Slasher

That's indeed good news. The problem for the US economy and long term economic prospects is that higher energy prices are likely to put the brakes on the recovering economy. Higher energy prices translate to higher food costs, higher transportation costs, home heating costs, and that would have a ripple effect through the economy - affecting everything from the hospitality industry (travel) to food prices and the bottom line for companies across the board.

There are some calls for the SPR to be utilized to lessen the pressure on prices, but this isn't an economic crisis worthy of dipping into the SPR - a natural disaster calamity akin to Katrina would be IMO (when refining capacity and access to wells is vastly reduced).

149 Jadespring  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:45:59am

re: #145 Girth

For my experiment I'm going to carry a magic pine cone around with me all this month and when private sector jobs increase I'll claim that the pine cone was responsible.

Well just to make it interesting I'm going to attempt to counter your magic pine cone with a magic pebble. If private sector jobs don't grow or decrease then my magic pebble is stronger then your magic pine cone.

150 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:47:44am

David Wu reassures Democrats he’s just fine
[Link: www.politico.com...]


Wu has acknowledged that he has suffered through mental health issues in recent years and that they culminated in a series of odd acts just before the 2010 mid-term election. Among other episodes described by Wu and other sources, he sent staff a picture of himself in a tiger costume for Halloween and wrote e-mails that were purportedly from his children.

He has acknowledged having taken prescription drugs in the past — and has sought professional help for his mental health issues

...but he's feeling much better now

Youtube Video
151 laZardo  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:47:52am

re: #145 Girth

For my experiment I'm going to carry a magic pine cone around with me all this month and when private sector jobs increase I'll claim that the pine cone was responsible.

Pine cones have powers, maaa~n. Don't knock it!

152 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:48:54am

and on that note

the long quiet drive home beckons

153 darthstar  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:49:17am

ACORN's evil, white underbelly is exposed...there was voter fraud! How crafty of them dark people to get a white guy named White to actually do the crime.

Of course, what else is a Republican Secretary of State supposed to do? It's in their job description.

154 iossarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:50:18am

re: #147 Rightwingconspirator

While California spends more than $100 billion a year, far less brainpower goes into studying the accounting and the wisdom of spending decisions than at two much smaller enterprises [...]

Really, "far less brainpower"?

I wonder whether he backed up that assertion. Most state agencies I'm aware of spend a lot of time on budget/planning issues.

Microsoft and Google are obviously very successful enterprises, but you have to remember that they are both effectively monopolies. In the case of Microsoft especially, they have achieved success by being pretty ruthless about suppressing potential rivals (the wonderful "free market" at work).

I think the plight of State governments is more due to the fact that voters have a track record of voting for short-term policies (e.g., tax cuts at the expense of infrastructure investment). You can blame politicians all you like, but at the end of the day you get what you vote for.

155 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:52:01am

re: #131 RogueOne

192,000-30,000=162,000 private sector jobs...that's a ton of angel wings. As an experiment lets slash another 30k government jobs (Wisconsin is doing it's part with 1500) and see what happens.

Correlation does not equal causation.

156 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:52:07am

re: #148 lawhawk

That's indeed good news. The problem for the US economy and long term economic prospects is that higher energy prices are likely to put the brakes on the recovering economy. Higher energy prices translate to higher food costs, higher transportation costs, home heating costs, and that would have a ripple effect through the economy - affecting everything from the hospitality industry (travel) to food prices and the bottom line for companies across the board.

There are some calls for the SPR to be utilized to lessen the pressure on prices, but this isn't an economic crisis worthy of dipping into the SPR - a natural disaster calamity akin to Katrina would be IMO (when refining capacity and access to wells is vastly reduced).

Higher energy prices will indeed affect those things you mention.

It will also affect anything that's made with petroleum by-product (PLASTIC!). Which covers a HUGE amount of territory.

157 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:53:05am

re: #150 RogueOne

David Wu reassures Democrats he’s just fine
[Link: www.politico.com...]

...but he's feeling much better now


[Video]

As someone who suffers from a mental illness I do so enjoy the public's attitude towards people like me. /

No one would dream of mocking a person with diabetes, or cancer, or polio. But it seems to be all right to belittle a person who struggles with psychic trauma and screwy brain chemistry.

158 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:55:36am

re: #153 darthstar
From your comment-I thought he voted twice or arranged for false votes somehow.
Did I read that right, all he did was vote in the wrong precinct? One vote placed from the wrong place? When I think of voter fraud, placing a single vote from the wrong zip code is hardly the first thing to come to mind. Hundreds of people double voted in Florida in the infamous Bush election, dozens of votes by illegal immigrants were found in the famous Bob Dornan defeat and nobody was charged with anything. But this guy may be a felon?!

159 Jadespring  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:55:50am

re: #156 reine.de.tout

Higher energy prices will indeed affect those things you mention.

It will also affect anything that's made with petroleum by-product (PLASTIC!). Which covers a HUGE amount of territory.

It's fairly safe to say that high oil prices will effect pretty much everything to some extent, or at least everything you buy in a store that has traveled to get to the shelf. If there wasn't oil involved in it's production, (which most things now have somewhere in the production chain) it will effect transport costs. Oil and gas goes high enough and those costs will eventually make their way to the buyer.

160 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:56:43am

re: #138 RogueOne

Bill Gates moves to the dark side:

Bill Gates On States' Accounting: 'The Guys At Enron Never Would Have Done This'
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Apparently Bill thinks we are incapable of governing ourselves. I wonder what system of government he would replace democracy with?

161 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:57:04am

re: #156 reine.de.tout

Good morning my friend. The USPO has a little something on the way to you, with a little help from LWC.

162 laZardo  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:57:43am

re: #157 Romantic Heretic

Among other episodes described by Wu and other sources, he sent staff a picture of himself in a tiger costume for Halloween and wrote e-mails that were purportedly from his children.

He's a furry. It's perfectly okay with me.

/back to browsing anon threads. :x

163 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:58:33am

re: #160 garhighway

Looks to me like he simply (with a dose of Enron hyperbole) calls for more honest accounting in gov budgeting. Is that such a bad idea?

164 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:58:50am

re: #160 garhighway

Apparently Bill thinks we are incapable of governing ourselves. I wonder what system of government he would replace democracy with?

Vista.

165 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:59:38am

re: #160 garhighway

Apparently Bill thinks we are incapable of governing ourselves. I wonder what system of government he would replace democracy with?

FTA:


Remedying state budget crises will take better accounting, better tools, and more respect for leaders who step up to address these problems, Gates argued. "We need to reward politicians," he said. "Whenever they say there are these long-term problems, we can't say, 'Oh, you're the messenger with bad news? We just shot you.'"

Sounds to me like he's ok with our system of government.

166 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:59:47am

Irony alert:

575 pound spokesman for the Heart Attack Grill (located in AZ), died at the age 29.

Blair River's official cause of death is currently not known, but friends say he contracted pneumonia after a bout with the flu. He died on Tuesday.

The 6-foot-8, 575 pound man is being remembered as an energetic, creative, gentle giant.

"Cynical people might think this (River's death) is funny," the restaurant's founder Jon Basso told the Arizona Republic. "But people who knew him are crying their eyes out. There is a lot of mourning going on around here. You couldn't have found a better person."

167 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:59:54am

re: #154 iossarian

Not when legislators you do not get to vote on overcome the executive and legislator you did vote for.

168 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:59:57am

re: #109 Shropshire_Slasher

Everybody has got an opinon:
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
I'm indifferent.

I guess you know that the financial crisis is really behind us when calls for deregulation of financial markets start up again. It's like we as a society have no memory at all.

169 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:00:28am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

MSDOS.

170 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:00:33am

GTG BBL

171 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:02:05am

re: #169 lawhawk

MSDOS.

I liked MSDOS--had that "rotary-dial" feel to it.

172 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:02:54am

re: #171 Decatur Deb

I liked MSDOS--had that "rotary-dial" feel to it.

Smells like bakelite.

173 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:03:28am

re: #153 darthstar

ACORN's evil, white underbelly is exposed...there was voter fraud! How crafty of them dark people to get a white guy named White to actually do the crime.

Of course, what else is a Republican Secretary of State supposed to do? It's in their job description.

Big local story obviously. It's a pretty weak case but he did violate the letter of the law. Here's the local link:
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

174 laZardo  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:03:30am

re: #172 Gus 802

Smells like bakelite.

CMD just isn't a good substitute. ;_;

175 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:04:32am

re: #172 Gus 802

Smells like bakelite.

My hands smell of bakelite after I drive my old LandRover.

176 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:05:29am

re: #160 garhighway

Apparently Bill thinks we are incapable of governing ourselves. I wonder what system of government he would replace democracy with?

This guy

"It looks like you're trying to get spending cuts and more services at the same time..."

177 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:06:18am

re: #176 publicityStunted

This guy

"It looks like you're trying to get spending cuts and more services at the same time..."

Very good.

178 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:06:52am

CRAP

179 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:07:16am

re: #161 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning my friend. The USPO has a little something on the way to you, with a little help from LWC.

Yay!
re: #159 Jadespring

It's fairly safe to say that high oil prices will effect pretty much everything to some extent, or at least everything you buy in a store that has traveled to get to the shelf. If there wasn't oil involved in it's production, (which most things now have somewhere in the production chain) it will effect transport costs. Oil and gas goes high enough and those costs will eventually make their way to the buyer.


And again - think of everything you own that's made of plastic, or has plastic components, or is packaged in plastic - everything from your toothbrush, to your car, to toys, medical supplies like tubing etc., your garden hose, your computer, your printer, etc. Almost everything.

180 laZardo  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:07:27am

brb have to head to airport, if there isn't wireless there than 'nighty to all.

Flying back across the P.I. to set up my exhibit at this little gala.

181 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:07:29am

OT: More on Mike Huckabee and his elastic relationship with the truth...

[Link: opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...]

182 laZardo  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:08:22am

re: #179 reine.de.tout

And again - think of everything you own that's made of plastic, or has plastic components, or is packaged in plastic - everything from your toothbrush, to your car, to toys, medical supplies like tubing etc., your garden hose, your computer, your printer, etc. Almost everything.

That's why the earth is pretty much fucked at this point.

/george carlin

183 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:09:29am

re: #180 laZardo

brb have to head to airport, if there isn't wireless there than 'nighty to all.

Flying back across the P.I. to set up my exhibit at this little gala.

Neat--is that a speaker system made of a hollow log?

184 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:09:43am

You'd think they'd learn to stop stealing stories from Alex Jones....
Doocy "Apologize[s]" For Fox & Friends' Fabricated Report On TSA Plan to Screen Passengers' DNA

185 Jadespring  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:11:11am

re: #179 reine.de.tout

Yay!
re: #159 Jadespring


And again - think of everything you own that's made of plastic, or has plastic components, or is packaged in plastic - everything from your toothbrush, to your car, to toys, medical supplies like tubing etc., your garden hose, your computer, your printer, etc. Almost everything.

Yep.

And in case anyone argues that petroleum based plastics could just be substituted with other types of plastics like cellulose or plant based plastics all of those plants use lots of oil to grow them as well.

186 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:12:40am

re: #185 Jadespring

Yep.

And in case anyone argues that petroleum based plastics could just be substituted with other types of plastics like cellulose or plant based plastics all of those plants use lots of oil to grow them as well.

I eagerly await a kudzu-based technology.

187 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:13:51am

re: #184 Killgore Trout

You'd think they'd learn to stop stealing stories from Alex Jones...
Doocy "Apologize[s]" For Fox & Friends' Fabricated Report On TSA Plan to Screen Passengers' DNA

Doocy is douchey

188 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:14:08am

Deadline day to get Florida's HSR project back on track. Backers of the project say that any cost overruns would be borne by the private sector, eliminating the key concern for GOP Gov. Rick Scott.

If that's the case, then let this project go ahead and see if FL can get HSR up and running. It would be a tremendous test case to see if the country can get anything approaching HSR.

Meanwhile, funding to get key improvements on the NEC are still lagging - particularly the Portal Bridge project that should be separate from all the discussions about the Gateway Tunnel/ARC project. It's a project everyone agrees upon, yet no one in the NJ delegation seems to be able to secure funding - and that includes Lautenberg whose name adorns the Secaucus Transfer for all of his support of mass transit. Time for him to put up and shut about about his ongoing feuds with Gov. Christie.

189 Jadespring  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:15:23am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

I eagerly await a kudzu-based technology.

Just as I was hitting post I thought of kudzu. :) Still, even though it grows without much help (oil inputs) you still have to harvest and process it...which at this point still means oil in the equation.

191 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:17:29am

A sad end to a $424 mil. project.

Image: 800px-Glory_spacecraft.jpg

192 iossarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:17:30am

re: #167 Rightwingconspirator

Not when legislators you do not get to vote on overcome the executive and legislator you did vote for.

Well, if you're talking about "activist judges", I would argue that those are elected as well, albeit indirectly.

"We need to reward politicians," he said. "Whenever they say there are these long-term problems, we can't say, 'Oh, you're the messenger with bad news? We just shot you.'"

How did that whole "the internet isn't going to be a big deal" long-term decision play out for you, Gates?

193 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:19:42am

re: #191 Gus 802

A sad end to a $424 mil. project.

Image: 800px-Glory_spacecraft.jpg

Build another one. A few thousand pounds of metal went into the ocean. The money is still bouncing around Huntsville and Houston.

194 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:23:43am

Jesse Bender, 13, Escapes Forced Marriage in Pakistan, Say Police
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]


The parents of a California 13-year-old are under investigation after the girl told police she was being forced to go to Pakistan for an arranged marriage.

The girl, Jesse Marie Bender, disappeared for more than a week and prompted a nationwide search after her mother, Melissa Bender, told police that her daughter had run off with someone she met on Facebook.

Friends and neighbors in the high-desert community of Hesperia launched a desperate search -- only to discover Wednesday that Jesse was being hidden from her mother and Pakistani stepfather by other family members.

According to the MSNBC report I just heard the authorities have taken custody of all their kids until this is sorted out.

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:26:23am

re: #190 Gus 802

Maybe I'm just a dummy, but I am always surprised when I hear words come out of the smartest engineering groups of people in the world like this:

"Maybe it landed in the ocean. We're not sure."

Maybe it landed on your house? We're not sure about that, either.

196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:30:25am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I understand not knowing where a particular "o" ring landed, I'm talking about "They don't know where the whole damn thing crashed?"

197 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:32:03am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe I'm just a dummy, but I am always surprised when I hear words come out of the smartest engineering groups of people in the world like this:

"Maybe it landed in the ocean. We're not sure."

Maybe it landed on your house? We're not sure about that, either.

"On the advice of legal counsel..."

198 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:35:46am

re: #197 Decatur Deb

"On the advice of legal counsel..."

Initiate Operation Congressional PSYOPS Contingency Plan X to get more funding from congress.

//

199 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:38:35am

The Huntsville Alabama L5 Society (HAL5), where superior rocket science meets superlative BBQ.

[Link: www.nsschapters.org...]

200 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:40:52am

A gene that increases a rice plant's resistance to floods also boosts its ability to recover from droughts, a study has shown.
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]


Researchers found that the gene, Sub1A, allowed to plants to survive by growing fresh shoots after a period of drought.

Rice is the primary food for three billion people, and more than 25% the world's harvest is grown in areas that experience extreme weather conditions.

201 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:42:42am

re: #192 iossarian

I was thinking of Governor and State Assembly and State Senate actually. Many fiscally conservative proposals and bills died quickly in the California legislature. I get to vote for 3 positions with real fiscal impact, just those 3. Judges, activist or not have little impact on budgeting. Now we have a new Governor asking for major changes in fiscal policy, a huge move toward fiscal conservative policies. So far they are being far better received than many of the same proposals from the previous governor, particularly in his first term. Yet if they had been implemented then, the state would be better off in fiscal terms.

202 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:42:46am

Too funny. The tools at Salem Communications are presenting Newt Gingrich an invite over to Salem Radio by way of Hot Air -- all over the removal of Gingrich and Santorum by Fox News.

203 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:43:39am

Daytime stuff, BBL.

204 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:45:18am

re: #202 Gus 802

-- all over the removal of Gingrich and Santorum by Fox News.

That sounds like something requiring some pretty intense detergent.

205 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:45:37am

"Young, dumb, and full of bad......."

Sperm quality significantly deteriorated and testicular cancers increased over recent years, a Finnish study says.
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]


The researchers looked at three groups of men who reached the age 19 between 1998 and 2006.

Men who were born in the late 1980s had lower sperm counts than those who were born in the beginning of the decade.

Total sperm counts were 227m for men born in 1979-81, 202m for those born in 1982-83 and 165m for men born in 1987, respectively.

206 The Left  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:45:55am

re: #202 Gus 802

Too funny. The tools at Salem Communications are presenting Newt Gingrich an invite over to Salem Radio by way of Hot Air -- all over the removal of Gingrich and Santorum by Fox News.

Funny how that works, huh? ;)

207 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:47:46am

re: #206 iceweasel

Funny how that works, huh? ;)

It's all hilarious. Any GOPer that thinks either of those clowns even stand a chance of becoming president have to be seriously brain damaged. And throw in Huckabee into that mix. But, I suppose Democrats would be smart if they encouraged them.

208 The Left  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:49:15am

re: #207 Gus 802

It's all hilarious. Any GOPer that thinks either of those clowns even stand a chance of becoming president have to be seriously brain damaged. And throw in Huckabee into that mix. But, I suppose Democrats would be smart if they encouraged them.

Who else is there? Seriously? Palin?

209 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:50:07am

re: #208 iceweasel

Who else is there? Seriously? Palin?

Palin, Pawlenty, Romney...

Then there's the Onion faction of the GOP: Bolton. //

210 The Left  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:50:31am

i mean, who the hell are they going to nominate? newt is probably one of the better ones, god help us all.

211 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:51:22am

re: #210 iceweasel

i mean, who the hell are they going to nominate? newt is probably one of the better ones, god help us all.

hee..hee..hee

212 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:51:24am

re: #210 iceweasel

i mean, who the hell are they going to nominate? newt is probably one of the better ones, god help us all.

I'd take Romney over Newt any day. Newt's an asshole. A-s-s-h-o-l-e.

213 The Left  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:52:53am

re: #212 Gus 802

I'd take Romney over Newt any day. Newt's an asshole. A-s-s-h-o-l-e.

Newt is, I believe, truly soulless and heartless.

214 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:53:30am

re: #210 iceweasel

i mean, who the hell are they going to nominate? newt is probably one of the better ones, god help us all.

There's always Charlie Sheen. Heck, the GOP already has the Alex Jones vote dialed in thanks to Fox News and Drudge.

//

215 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:55:27am

Huckabee slams Natalie Portman for being young and pregnant.

Red meat for the masses?

Portman can definitely take care of herself and her soon to be born kid(s). She's financially secure AFAIK, and the Oscar win helps in that department as well.

Huckabee's beef? She's a bad role model, citing high out-of-wedlock birth rates among African Americans and that 41% of all kids are born out-of-wedlock (which seems in line with percentages reported elsewhere). Yet, she was an Intel Science Competition semi-finalist, and graduated from Yale.

216 The Left  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:56:31am

re: #215 lawhawk

huck's having a murphy brown moment. Everything old is new again.

217 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:56:51am

re: #214 Gus 802

The case for Herman Cain

The case against Herman Cain

218 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:56:54am

re: #192 iossarian
How did that whole "the internet isn't going to be a big deal" long-term decision play out for you, Gates?

You are arguing against success after success. Sure there have been mistakes, some just awful (Windows ME) Yet-A 90+% market share on operating systems. And still the largest most profitable software company of all.
[Link: www.businessinsider.com...]

219 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:57:16am

re: #215 lawhawk

Huckabee slams Natalie Portman for being young and pregnant.

Red meat for the masses?

Portman can definitely take care of herself and her soon to be born kid(s). She's financially secure AFAIK, and the Oscar win helps in that department as well.

Huckabee's beef? She's a bad role model, citing high out-of-wedlock birth rates among African Americans and that 41% of all kids are born out-of-wedlock (which seems in line with percentages reported elsewhere). Yet, she was an Intel Science Competition semi-finalist, and graduated from Yale.

"She was an Intel Science Competition semi-finalist, and graduated from Yale..." That means nothing!

"A woman is nothing without a man." -- Mike Huckabee

//

220 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:57:48am

"The Obamas make history with homebrewed White House Honey Ale":[Link: obamafoodorama.blogspot.com...]

221 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 7:58:20am

re: #217 publicityStunted

The case for Herman Cain

The case against Herman Cain

Yuck. Cain's in another category. The nutcase one.

222 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:01:29am

re: #210 iceweasel

i mean, who the hell are they going to nominate? newt is probably one of the better ones, god help us all.

Jon Huntsman Jr. may still run. Flawed but head and shoulders above the dismal rest.

223 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:01:42am

re: #215 lawhawk

Huckabee's beef? She's a bad role model, citing high out-of-wedlock birth rates among African Americans and that 41% of all kids are born out-of-wedlock (which seems in line with percentages reported elsewhere). Yet, she was an Intel Science Competition semi-finalist, and graduated from Yale.

Hussy. She should be engaging in wholesome, Real AmericanTM activities like this.

224 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:02:33am

Pakistan Christians bury murdered leader Shahbaz Bhatti

Thousands of Pakistani mourners have attended the funeral of murdered minorities minister Shahbaz Bhatti.

Mr Bhatti, a Christian, was shot dead on Wednesday by the Taliban after he urged reform to blasphemy laws.

There were emotional scenes as several thousand Christians buried their leader in his home village near Faisalabad.

Earlier, hundreds turned out for a church service in the capital. Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told them his colleague had been "very rare".

Wednesday's assassination in Islamabad was the second this year of a Pakistani politician who wanted to reform the controversial blasphemy laws...

225 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:03:11am

re: #221 Gus 802

Yuck. Cain's in another category. The nutcase one.

I was thinking he could be Alan Keyes redux.

226 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:04:33am

re: #225 publicityStunted

I was thinking he could be Alan Keyes redux.

That would be entertaining to say the least.

Cain, Keyes, Bachmann, Paul...

Thorazine and tinfoil!

/

227 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:07:47am

re: #210 iceweasel

i mean, who the hell are they going to nominate? ....

Chris Christie: Superhero (Taiwan animation)

Youtube Video
228 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:09:06am

re: #215 lawhawk

Huckabee slams Natalie Portman for being young and pregnant.

Red meat for the masses?

Portman can definitely take care of herself and her soon to be born kid(s). She's financially secure AFAIK, and the Oscar win helps in that department as well.

Huckabee's beef? She's a bad role model, citing high out-of-wedlock birth rates among African Americans and that 41% of all kids are born out-of-wedlock (which seems in line with percentages reported elsewhere). Yet, she was an Intel Science Competition semi-finalist, and graduated from Yale.

Fuck the Huck.

229 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:11:34am

re: #226 Gus 802

That would be entertaining to say the least.

Cain, Keyes, Bachmann, Paul...

Thorazine and tinfoil!

/

Queens of the Stone Age - Feel Good Hit of The Summer (redux).......


cain keyes bachman tinfoil mogodon and alcohol.....mc-mc-mc-cCain....
Youtube Video
230 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:16:42am

re: #215 lawhawk

Huckabee slams Natalie Portman for being young and pregnant.

Red meat for the masses?

Red meat for the knuckle dragging teabagger faction and no one else. Also, I want to see where Huck went after Bristol Palin for her decision to have a child as a teenager.

Natalie Portman is beautiful, scary intelligent, a hard worker, devoted to her family, happily pregnant, and is getting married to the father of her baby. She's also in a financial position to ensure that the baby will be taken care of and provided for and will never end up on the welfare rolls. What more does that sanctimonious asshole Huckabee want?

231 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:16:45am

Well. I get the feeling that the RNC is going to put most of their money on a candidate with lots of Tea Party appeal. Next year is going to be rather strange indeed.

232 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:17:46am

re: #231 Gus 802

Well. I get the feeling that the RNC is going to put most of their money on a candidate with lots of Tea Party appeal. Next year is going to be rather strange indeed.

Just wait. If the wingnuts succeed in shutting down the government because Planned Parenthood isn't defunded, 2012 will be a barrel of laughs for the GOP.

234 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:20:38am

Dear GOP,

It's the economy stupid.

235 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:21:00am

The buds are swelling on kiwis and blue berries. The gooseberries are starting to send out shoots. The plants seem optimistic that winter will end but I'm not so sure. Cold, dark, gloom and rain is all I can see for the foreseeable future.

236 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:21:07am

If the RNC push a TP candidate (and actually win the Primaries) to represent the Republicans in 2012, they will lose in no small fashion those moderates within the party and drive Indy's into the arms of the Democrats.
Newt is no better, that's just DOA on my ledger.

I would be one of those moderates.

237 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:21:16am

re: #224 Gus 802

Zardari refused to attend the funeral, and while PM Gilani attended, he's refused to repeal or reform the blasphemy laws. It's little wonder that the minority Christian population is living in fear - speaking out against the anti-blasphemy laws is akin to a death sentence. (more here).

238 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:21:42am

re: #231 Gus 802

Well. I get the feeling that the RNC is going to put most of their money on a candidate with lots of Tea Party appeal. Next year is going to be rather strange indeed.

When Donald Trump thinks he has a shot, anything is possible.

The 2012 GOP primary season will make my old county fair's freak show look like a cotillion.

239 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:22:10am

re: #230 Lidane

To convert? /////

240 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:22:19am

re: #234 Gus 802

Dear GOP,

It's the economy stupid.

Unfortunately the GOP is just as bad on the economy as social issues. They need to sit on the sideline until they get a fucking clue.

241 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:22:56am

re: #238 garhighway

Eh... Trump should stick to trying to buy the Mets from the Wilpons. He'd have more success there than trying to win an election.

242 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:23:43am

re: #124 sattv4u2

I didn't know Sharia was in the ANWR region of Alaska!!!

Lots of Moose-lims about there. Just ask the wolves.

243 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:23:51am

re: #237 lawhawk

Zardari refused to attend the funeral, and while PM Gilani attended, he's refused to repeal or reform the blasphemy laws. It's little wonder that the minority Christian population is living in fear - speaking out against the anti-blasphemy laws is akin to a death sentence. (more here).

Dysfunctional to say the least. How much different are they really from the Taliban? After all, the Taliban is a Pakistani creation. This is what we're fighting for?

244 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:26:10am

re: #236 Ericus58

If the RNC push a TP candidate (and actually win the Primaries) to represent the Republicans in 2012, they will lose in no small fashion those moderates within the party and drive Indy's into the arms of the Democrats.
Newt is no better, that's just DOA on my ledger.

I would be one of those moderates.

I want them to nominate a teabagger darling in 2012. Maybe after watching that teabagger get curbstomped by Obama, the GOP will finally have to take a long hard look at themselves, much like the Dems did after Mondale got humiliated by Reagan.

245 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:26:56am

re: #236 Ericus58

If the RNC push a TP candidate (and actually win the Primaries) to represent the Republicans in 2012, they will lose in no small fashion those moderates within the party and drive Indy's into the arms of the Democrats.
Newt is no better, that's just DOA on my ledger.

I would be one of those moderates.

I'm finding it hard to believe Newt or Santorum will be able to secure the nomination thanks to the oddball factor. I'm not feeling Romney either. I don't think Palin or Huck are even going to run. That narrows it down a bit. I'm interested in seeing if Huntsman or Daniels can gain any traction. Daniels has a lot of support amongst the chattering classes but who knows if that will help or hurt.

246 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:27:27am

re: #239 lawhawk

To convert? ///

Actually, it might not be that far fetched. He's a crazy theocrat and she's proudly Israeli and Jewish.

247 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:28:53am

re: #245 RogueOne

Huntsman won't get anywhere with the teabagger base. He'd have to spend the entire primary explaining why he agreed to resign as governor of Utah to go work with Obama as his ambassador.

I want Huntsman to wait until 2016. Let all the Bad Crazy play itself out now and let the GOP lose, then come in when the presidency will be wide open.

248 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:30:45am

Now this is labor-related violence:

MSNBC Video

No way to build a rapport between workers and management when the threat of effectively being lynched by laid-off workers looms over your head.

249 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:30:54am

re: #247 Lidane

Huntsman won't get anywhere with the teabagger base. He'd have to spend the entire primary explaining why he agreed to resign as governor of Utah to go work with Obama as his ambassador.

I want Huntsman to wait until 2016. Let all the Bad Crazy play itself out now and let the GOP lose, then come in when the presidency will be wide open.

So the Republicans can count on your vote in 2016? Fantastic!
/i couldn't resist ;)

250 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:31:31am

re: #247 Lidane

I don't get a vote on who the repubs pick but I'd pay actual cash to watch a debate between Daniels and Obama.

251 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:32:24am

Food time. BBIAB.

252 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:32:25am

Oh brother...

@mattklewis
Hmm RT @MelissaTweets Has it occurred to anyone that Huckabee's slam of Natalie Portman was an indirect slam on Palin?

Lewis can be such a dork.

253 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:35:30am

re: #249 Ericus58

So the Republicans can count on your vote in 2016? Fantastic!
/i couldn't resist ;)

Heh.

That would only happen if they jettison the teabagger and religious whackjob factions first, and prove to me that they're a serious political party.

That said, I like Huntsman. I'd be open to voting for him, at least in theory. The field will be wide open in 2016, since I don't think Biden plans on running for POTUS after serving as Veep, and there's no telling who the Dems would run then. We'll see.

254 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:35:37am

re: #247 Lidane

Huntsman won't get anywhere with the teabagger base. He'd have to spend the entire primary explaining why he agreed to resign as governor of Utah to go work with Obama as his ambassador.

I want Huntsman to wait until 2016. Let all the Bad Crazy play itself out now and let the GOP lose, then come in when the presidency will be wide open.

Agreed. Even if the Tea Party nuts and Fox news were to endorse him it would damage the credibility of his campaign. There isn't even a sane conservative foundation to support a reasonable Republican candidate. We are a long ways away from seeing a Republican president again.

255 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:36:59am

Gingrich Kicks Of Presidential Exploration By Meeting With John Hagee
Submitted by Kyle on March 4, 2011 - 9:29am

Now that Newt Gingrich has launched a presidential exploratory committee, we're going to have to start taking note of the Religious Right leaders with whom he surrounds himself and with whom he meets ... like John Hagee.

Keep reading.

256 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:37:47am

1980s redux. Same old shit. Religious right cranks. Abortion. Gays.

257 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:38:32am

re: #241 lawhawk

Eh... Trump should stick to trying to buy the Mets from the Wilpons. He'd have more success there than trying to win an election.

I used to love watching Darrell Hammond imitate Trump on Saturday Night Live. He had him cold.

[Link: www.hulu.com...]

258 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:39:47am

re: #235 Killgore Trout

The buds are swelling on kiwis and blue berries. The gooseberries are starting to send out shoots. The plants seem optimistic that winter will end but I'm not so sure. Cold, dark, gloom and rain is all I can see for the foreseeable future.

You there, Chauncy?

260 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:41:36am

re: #256 Gus 802

1980s redux. Same old shit. Religious right cranks. Abortion. Gays.

Only without anyone like St. Ronaldus of Reagan for independents and moderates to rally around. All of the current GOP candidates are either crazy (Huckabee, Paul), stupid (Palin, Bachmann), sleazy opportunists (Gingrich, Romney) or so boring that they blend with the furniture (Pawlenty, Daniels). I don't know who they've got that could offer a compelling counterpoint to Obama.

261 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:42:44am

re: #248 oaktree

Now this is labor-related violence:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

No way to build a rapport between workers and management when the threat of effectively being lynched by laid-off workers looms over your head.

There are places where a pink slip is a death sentence.

262 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:44:27am

re: #259 Alouette

W.T.F.

Ohio 5th Grade class divided into "masters" and "slaves" for social studies lesson.

Cuts a couple ways. Everyone learned more than reading Chapter 4.

263 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:51:25am

re: #259 Alouette

W.T.F.

Ohio 5th Grade class divided into "masters" and "slaves" for social studies lesson.

When I was in 5th grade, they didn't go so far as "masters and slaves", but they started discriminating against brown eyed students and treating blue eyed students very nicely. It was weird, because our teacher had brown eyes. They didn't explain the "experiment" until it was over, but it was pretty clear what the lesson was.

264 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:53:23am

Here we go with the Fox News disinformation. The headline reads: Obama: No Arming of U.S. Agents in Mexico.

But they fail to mention or stress that that's a Mexican policy not US. Mexico would have to change their laws.

265 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:54:18am

re: #264 Gus 802

Pfft. You expect them to provide facts or context?

266 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:54:52am

re: #264 Gus 802

Here we go with the Fox News disinformation. The headline reads: Obama: No Arming of U.S. Agents in Mexico.

But they fail to mention or stress that that's a Mexican policy not US. Mexico would have to change their laws.

We have to obey their laws when we're there? But we're Americans!!!1!

///

267 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 8:58:42am

re: #265 Lidane

Pfft. You expect them to provide facts or context?

re: #266 wrenchwench

We have to obey their laws when we're there? But we're Americans!!!1!

///

Here's an example of the resulting stupidity:

Mexico is more dangerous than Afghanistan KommonCents: Obama refuses to let US agents carry weapons in Mexico after unarmed agent was killed...

Again. That's not a matter of US law but Mexican law.

Morons.

268 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:00:39am

Chaz Bono is 42 today, I wonder what he wants for his burfday!?

269 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:01:48am

Is this irony? They are holding a 24 hour mountain bike race to help find a cure for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

Makes me tired just to read about it.

270 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:02:45am

re: #267 Gus 802

Morons.

Doesn't matter. Fox accomplished their goal. Their idiot viewers now think that Obama is disarming US agents.

271 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:04:01am

re: #269 wrenchwench

I'm in if it is all downhill.

272 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:04:19am

re: #267 Gus 802

And boy is that a set of stupid laws. To fail to allow legit law enforcement to be armed in a place chock full of violent killers... It boggles the mind. Obama should insist they amend their law. Or laws.

273 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:04:20am

re: #270 Lidane

Doesn't matter. Fox accomplished their goal. Their idiot viewers now think that Obama is disarming US agents.

Exactly. That was the plan with the headline all along. Most people don't read past the headline -- especially wingnuts.

Now consider this. Imagine if we had armed agents from Mexico in the USA?

274 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:06:08am

re: #273 Gus 802

Now consider this. Imagine if we had armed agents from Mexico in the USA?

ZOMG! THE MEXICANS ARE INVADING! HIDE THE WIMMINS AND CHILLUNS!!11ty!!1!!1

Or, you know, hire them all as housekeepers and gardeners in Texas.

/wingnut

275 iossarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:08:35am

re: #272 Rightwingconspirator

And boy is that a set of stupid laws. To fail to allow legit law enforcement to be armed in a place chock full of violent killers... It boggles the mind. Obama should insist they amend their law. Or laws.

Maybe the Mexicans should insist we amend our laws to stop the massively profitable illegal trade in drugs that is essentially destroying their country?

276 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:08:56am

Sanity break
Too cute huge awww factor
Guy rescues baby hummingbird, teaches it to fly & everything.
http://www.wimp.com/babyhummingbird/

277 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:10:27am

re: #275 iossarian

More to the point as we have no lack of anti drug laws nor any lack of drug offenders in jail-How about reciprocity for police and agents of the two governments. Cooperate and allow free passage armed or not as needed.

278 blueraven  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:12:29am

re: #215 lawhawk

Huckabee slams Natalie Portman for being young and pregnant.

Red meat for the masses?

Portman can definitely take care of herself and her soon to be born kid(s). She's financially secure AFAIK, and the Oscar win helps in that department as well.

Huckabee's beef? She's a bad role model, citing high out-of-wedlock birth rates among African Americans and that 41% of all kids are born out-of-wedlock (which seems in line with percentages reported elsewhere). Yet, she was an Intel Science Competition semi-finalist, and graduated from Yale.

OMG! She an elitist!

279 iossarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:13:33am

re: #277 Rightwingconspirator

More to the point as we have no lack of anti drug laws nor any lack of drug offenders in jail-How about reciprocity for police and agents of the two governments. Cooperate and allow free passage armed or not as needed.

I more meant we could just legalize them and save ourselves the hassle, plus bring a large industry into the clean, bright, tax-paying world.

280 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:13:35am

re: #272 Rightwingconspirator

And boy is that a set of stupid laws. To fail to allow legit law enforcement to be armed in a place chock full of violent killers... It boggles the mind. Obama should insist they amend their law. Or laws.

Well. Why do we have agents there in the first place? This is all part of the failing drug war which has consumed billions of dollars since its first inception. Our drug policy and laws don't make any sense as does the one in Mexico.

That being said our complete dialogue with Mexico is not announced on the public airwaves for all the world to hear. As it is with other foreign countries. But I'm sure that many would like to see Obama get into a public argument with Calderon over the arming of US agents on national television.

Obama could insist all he wants but that probably wouldn't have any effect on Calderon nor the Mexican legislature.

281 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:15:53am

re: #279 iossarian

I more meant we could just legalize them and save ourselves the hassle, plus bring a large industry into the clean, bright, tax-paying world.

That statement I absolutely agree with but to claim US drug laws are at, or near, the top of the list of all the things wrong with Mexico is way off base. Mexico has been a borderline failed state for generations.

282 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:17:14am

re: #280 Gus 802

Well. Why do we have agents there in the first place? This is all part of the failing drug war which has consumed billions of dollars since its first inception. Our drug policy and laws don't make any sense as does the one in Mexico.

That being said our complete dialogue with Mexico is not announced on the public airwaves for all the world to hear. As it is with other foreign countries. But I'm sure that many would like to see Obama get into a public argument with Calderon over the arming of US agents on national television.

Or didn't used to be. Calderon has said Wikileaks has done damage to the US/Mexico relationship.

283 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:17:53am

re: #269 wrenchwench

Is this irony? They are holding a 24 hour mountain bike race to help find a cure for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

Makes me tired just to read about it.

THIS is irony.

Bryan Fischer: SCOTUS wrong on Phelps ruling

Justices Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas are all wrong in their ruling on the reprehensible Westboro Baptist Church protests at military funerals. Alito alone is right. As he says, the First Amendment is "not a license for vicious verbal assault." The gay-haters at Westboro have plenty of free speech avenues open to them - books, articles, video, audio, TV, radio, public forums, internet postings, emails etc. But they do not have a right to "intentionally inflict severe emotional injury on private persons." The Supremes in this 8-1 decision have taken ugliness off its leash, turned it loose, and legitimized the most vile forms of public verbal attack. They have cried havoc and let slip the dogs of vitriol.

284 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:17:53am

re: #264 Gus 802

Here we go with the Fox News disinformation. The headline reads: Obama: No Arming of U.S. Agents in Mexico.

But they fail to mention or stress that that's a Mexican policy not US. Mexico would have to change their laws.

Did they change their story because this is the 2nd sentence in:


"There are laws in place in Mexico that say that our agents should not be armed," Obama said, describing the U.S. role south of the border as an "advisory" one. "We do not carry out law enforcement activities inside of Mexico."

285 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:18:21am

re: #279 iossarian

I more meant we could just legalize them and save ourselves the hassle, plus bring a large industry into the clean, bright, tax-paying world.

Meanwhile, marijuana is still classified as a "Schedule 1" drug.

Right up there with PCP, heroin, meth, Chine white, etc.

286 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:19:00am

re: #281 RogueOne

That statement I absolutely agree with but to claim US drug laws are at, or near, the top of the list of all the things wrong with Mexico is way off base. Mexico has been a borderline failed state for generations.

They are overhauling their "justice" system, which is really the first thing that needs to happen to have a hope of getting a handle on crime and corruption. It's taking a long time.

287 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:19:30am

re: #276 Rightwingconspirator

Sanity break
Too cute huge awww factor
Guy rescues baby hummingbird, teaches it to fly & everything.
http://www.wimp.com/babyhummingbird/

Very cool

288 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:19:51am

re: #284 RogueOne

Did they change their story because this is the 2nd sentence in:

That was always there.

Perhaps someone can point that out to all of the wingnuts that are freaking out over this.

289 iossarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:20:34am

re: #281 RogueOne

That statement I absolutely agree with but to claim US drug laws are at, or near, the top of the list of all the things wrong with Mexico is way off base. Mexico has been a borderline failed state for generations.

True that. You do have to admit that the revenues that criminal groups derive from the drugs trade are non-trivial though.

290 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:21:01am

re: #271 Shropshire_Slasher

I'm in if it is all downhill.

I'm trying to think of a place you could go downhill for 24 hours. Not even that volcano in Hawaii....

291 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:22:44am

re: #285 Gus 802

Meanwhile, marijuana is still classified as a "Schedule 1" drug.

Right up there with PCP, heroin, meth, Chine white, etc.

And peyote, and magic mushrooms... even meth.

That's hilarious. I would classify this as being anti-science.

292 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:22:46am

re: #283 negativ

THIS is irony.

Bryan Fischer: SCOTUS wrong on Phelps ruling

Harry Reid has his back:

[Link: democrats.senate.gov...]


“I am very disappointed in today’s Supreme Court decision to allow hateful extremists to attempt to sully the memories of heroes who have fought and died to protect this country, and to heap more hurt on already grief-stricken families. These families have only one chance to bury loved ones who made the ultimate sacrifice. They deserve the right to mourn without being subjected to the ugly signs and slurs of fanatics.

“Emboldened by this unfortunate ruling, the Phelps family has pledged to redouble its efforts to harass military families during their darkest hour. I call on faith leaders from all communities to stand with me to denounce hate speech, including the kind used by these protesters.

293 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:23:49am

re: #289 iossarian

True that. You do have to admit that the revenues that criminal groups derive from the drugs trade are non-trivial though.

But not one of the cartels limits their activities to the drug trade. Kidnapping, for instance, is rapidly on the rise.

I agree that marijuana should be legalized in the US. So does Vicente Fox, Mexico's previous president. Possession of small amounts has been decriminalized in Mexico.

294 Lidane  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:24:58am

I'm loving this. At first, you can't even tell it's Jimmy Fallon:

Jimmy Fallon's Charlie Sheen Impression

295 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:25:55am

re: #291 Gus 802

And peyote, and magic mushrooms... even meth.

That's hilarious. I would classify this as being anti-science.

Absolutely it's anti-science. It has nothing to do with controlling the "substance". It's about controlling the people.

296 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:26:20am

re: #279 iossarian

I can see legalizing some drugs. Pot, maybe powder cocaine. Maybe. Not crack, not heroin etc. At this point it's a war on stone killers, torturers and kidnappers. Not just drugs.

297 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:27:18am

re: #289 iossarian

True that. You do have to admit that the revenues that criminal groups derive from the drugs trade are non-trivial though.

They (and us) are losing out on billions in tax revenue.

298 iossarian  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:28:14am

Off-topic, a little window into why health care costs are so much higher in the US than in Europe.

So last night, I had to pick up a prescription for a throat infection. The hitch was that the prescription was not called in by my regular doctor, for reasons that are too boring to go into here.

Anyway, once at the pharmacy, I had to wait for fifteen while the guys behind the counter (yes, it took two of them) sorted out the insurance claim. This other doctor was apparently "not on file" with my insurance company, so they wouldn't clear the payment until the data had been entered.

So that 30 minutes of employee time was a cost that was entirely engendered by the necessity of approving payment through a third party (and note that I am not even counting the time of the people at the insurance company who talked to the pharmacists on the phone during the process).

This is among the reasons for which we pay 30% more than the Europeans for a similar standard of care for a shrinking proportion of the population.

299 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:29:41am

[Link: blog.cagle.com...]

Whose line is it anyways? Qaddafi (Khadafi?) or Sheen?

300 blueraven  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:30:02am

re: #292 RogueOne

Harry Reid has his back:

[Link: democrats.senate.gov...]

You may have missed the whole irony part.
A lot of people disagree with the SC on this.

301 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:30:24am

re: #273 Gus 802

Exactly. That was the plan with the headline all along. Most people don't read past the headline -- especially wingnuts.

Now consider this. Imagine if we had armed agents from Mexico in the USA?

Maybe we could start with arming the US agents in the US:

Border Patrol agents shot beanbags at a group of suspected bandits before the men returned fire during a confrontation in a remote canyon, killing agent Brian Terry with a single gunshot, records show.
[...]

OK, they were armed, but used beanbags first.

302 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:32:04am

re: #272 Rightwingconspirator

And boy is that a set of stupid laws. To fail to allow legit law enforcement to be armed in a place chock full of violent killers... It boggles the mind. Obama should insist they amend their law. Or laws.

National sovereignty is a bitch.

303 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:32:23am

re: #283 negativ

BTW, that Reid piece wasn't snark (at least not entirely/). Sometimes I wonder why we decided it was legal/appropriate to allow people to scream fairly horrific things in peoples faces like we saw on the OC clip going around yesterday. I understand that it's legal and part of our national heritage but it's a pretty lousy tradition.

304 Kragar  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:33:56am

You know, it suprises me that as far as I can tell, no one has ever used the nic "overfed long-haired leaping gnome" and I think thats just sad.

305 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:34:07am

re: #301 wrenchwench

Maybe we could start with arming the US agents in the US:

OK, they were armed, but used beanbags first.

Yeah. That's pretty nuts. But they were armed with other weapons:

The documents say the group of illegal border entrants refused commands to drop their weapons after agents confronted them at about 11:15 p.m. Two agents fired beanbags at the migrants, who responded with gunfire. Two agents returned fire, one with a long gun and one with a pistol, but Terry was mortally wounded in the gunfight.

So it's not like they were out there with only "beanbags".

306 Gus  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:35:49am

I'll be Bach.

307 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:35:54am

re: #302 garhighway

National sovereignty is a bitch.

Hmm, why do I suspect the recommended wingnut solution is that we violently invade Mexico and make *our* laws *their* laws so our agents can travel about armed as they please.

308 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:37:01am

re: #305 Gus 802

Beaning them with beanbags is racist!

/

309 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:40:39am

Review of Lewis-based Stryker platoon complete
[Link: www.militarytimes.com...]


SEATTLE — The Army has completed its administrative investigation into a troubled Stryker brigade, a spokeswoman said Thursday, but for now it isn’t releasing the findings.

The investigation was conducted by a brigadier general after a dozen soldiers from the brigade were accused of crimes ranging from hashish smoking to slaughtering Afghan civilians.

310 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:42:14am

re: #290 wrenchwench

I'm trying to think of a place you could go downhill for 24 hours. Not even that volcano in Hawaii...

Kansas.

311 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:46:28am

Bad news for Huntsman:

[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Sununu says "Huntsman 2012" is DOA.

312 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:46:33am

re: #303 RogueOne

BTW, that Reid piece wasn't snark (at least not entirely/). Sometimes I wonder why we decided it was legal/appropriate to allow people to scream fairly horrific things in peoples faces like we saw on the OC clip going around yesterday. I understand that it's legal and part of our national heritage but it's a pretty lousy tradition.

Drive-by response:

I'd rather that they spew openly so they can be known & shunned by anyone with an ounce of decency. If they were legally prohibited from doing so, their venom wouldn't evaporate, it would just fester & grow in the dark and eventually excrete itself via some other (possibly more harmful) outlet.

~Gone~

313 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:47:18am

re: #309 RogueOne

The investigation was conducted by a brigadier general after a dozen soldiers from the brigade were accused of crimes ranging from hashish smoking to slaughtering Afghan civilians.

Two soldiers in the brig.

One soldier: I slaughtered an entire Afghan village, including women, children, and goats. What are you in for?

Other soldier: I smoked a doobie.

314 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:48:58am

re: #313 Alouette

"How can you shoot women and children?!"

"Easy, you dont lead them as much"

315 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:49:00am

In an acknowledgement of the current reality, Congress has made incomprehensible shouting our national language:

Onion Video
316 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:52:57am

re: #313 Alouette

The last conviction they managed was a couple of days ago:

Soldier gets 60 days for Afghanistan misconduct
[Link: www.armytimes.com...]

JOINT BASE LEWIS-MCCHORD, Wash. — A judge at Joint Base Lewis-McChord has sentenced a soldier to 60 days hard labor and a bad conduct discharge for misconduct in Afghanistan.

Spc. Corey Moore of Redondo Beach, Calif., pleaded guilty to some accusations — that he kicked a witness in a drug investigation and stabbed a corpse. The judge found him not guilty of several other charges, including conspiracy to beat up a whistleblower and wrongfully trying to impede an investigation.

317 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:53:36am

re: #314 Shropshire_Slasher

Bring your surfboard, because Charlie don't surf!

318 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:54:45am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

Kansas.

Silly me. When I rode across Kansas, it was from the northeast corner to the southwest corner. All uphill.

Oh, and did you know that "Kansas" means "Southwest wind" in some native language?

319 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:55:26am

re: #316 RogueOne

The last conviction they managed was a couple of days ago:

Soldier gets 60 days for Afghanistan misconduct
[Link: www.armytimes.com...]

JOINT BASE LEWIS-MCCHORD, Wash. — A judge at Joint Base Lewis-McChord has sentenced a soldier to 60 days hard labor and a bad conduct discharge for misconduct in Afghanistan.

Spc. Corey Moore of Redondo Beach, Calif., pleaded guilty to some accusations — that he kicked a witness in a drug investigation and stabbed a corpse. The judge found him not guilty of several other charges, including conspiracy to beat up a whistleblower and wrongfully trying to impede an investigation.

He stabbed a corpse?

Strange.

320 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:57:38am

re: #319 garhighway

He stabbed a corpse?

Strange.

Yeah, he sounds a bit "off". 60 days of turning big rocks into little rocks will clear his mind a bit.

321 garhighway  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 9:58:04am

Here's a great name for an advice column:

"Ask a man with a Russian accent trying to convince you to go to an ecstacy party".

I love the Onion.

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

322 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:01:02am

re: #305 Gus 802

Yeah. That's pretty nuts. But they were armed with other weapons:

So it's not like they were out there with only "beanbags".

No, they just tried to use only what they perceived as the necessary force required for the situation.

You can be sure that the level of force now first employed by other agents will be elevated...

323 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:08:48am

At the center of NU's sex storm
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]


A few minutes into the discussion, the guests proposed a live demo on the big stage.

Bailey was surprised. He hesitated. But just a little while earlier he'd been thinking about the knee-jerk negativity so many people have about sex, about sex research.

As a man who believes everything is worth studying, he had to ponder why he was hesitating.

"I could not come up with a good reason," he said Thursday, "and so I said OK."

And so it happened. A man. A woman. A dildo on the base of a power saw. The device had a name, not fit for print in this newspaper, that Bailey said he didn't know until after class.
.......
"When I knew it was going to be bad in some quarters," he said, "was when I got a call from Fox News."

He didn't realize it was going to end badly until he got a call from FoxNews? Really?

324 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:09:30am

CNN notices the growing White Rights movement....
Are whites racially oppressed?

• A recent Public Religion Research Institute poll found 44% of Americans surveyed identify discrimination against whites as being just as big as bigotry aimed at blacks and other minorities. The poll found 61% of those identifying with the Tea Party held that view, as did 56% of Republicans and 57% of white evangelicals.

325 jamesfirecat  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:11:26am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

CNN notices the growing White Rights movement...
Are whites racially oppressed?

Help help I'm being oppressed! Now we see the violence inherent in the system! You saw him oppressing me didn't you!

326 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:12:44am

John Miner dies at 92; investigator of Marilyn Monroe's death
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]


John Miner, a former L.A. County prosecutor, made headlines in recent years when he shared what he said were the contents of tapes Marilyn Monroe made with her psychiatrist. Monroe's death was ruled a 'probable suicide,' but Miner strongly believed she was killed.

It took awhile but it looks like the kennedys finally got him.

327 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:12:47am

re: #298 iossarian

Off-topic, a little window into why health care costs are so much higher in the US than in Europe.

So last night, I had to pick up a prescription for a throat infection. The hitch was that the prescription was not called in by my regular doctor, for reasons that are too boring to go into here.

Anyway, once at the pharmacy, I had to wait for fifteen while the guys behind the counter (yes, it took two of them) sorted out the insurance claim. This other doctor was apparently "not on file" with my insurance company, so they wouldn't clear the payment until the data had been entered.

So that 30 minutes of employee time was a cost that was entirely engendered by the necessity of approving payment through a third party (and note that I am not even counting the time of the people at the insurance company who talked to the pharmacists on the phone during the process).

This is among the reasons for which we pay 30% more than the Europeans for a similar standard of care for a shrinking proportion of the population.

Ding ding ding.

UK - pharmacist takes the scrip, and you pay over £7.50/£7.95 per scrip and go on your way.
Anyone on an invalidity or job seekers benefit can sign the form, say they don't pay and that goes to a dedicated office to check, or if the pharamcist knows you they do it on trust.
OR - pay £100 for the year and never pay for a prescription during the year......

328 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:15:10am

Hey guess what? A class of 2007 poster, Tarkloon with less than 100 posts total and 49 karma, put up a page:

Legend of the Fist: The Return of Chen Zhen - An Avalanche of Ass-Kicking...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I posted this little thing:

You know it's funny. There is a stalker named chen-zen.

He is a thirty-something loser who still lives in his parent's house. He has a menial job selling electronics at a big box store though he believes he is some sort of computer god. He drives a crappy little car that he thinks is like a Porsche. He believes he is a kung fu master, when in reality, he is a wimpy white guy with the muscle tone of a marshmallow... and oh yes... has massive delusions of grandeur.

He also hasn't had a date since the Bush administration. Bush Sr. However, his mum tells him he is special.

You should beware of him. He proves that he has absolutely no life at all at any given chance by endlessly, tirelessly stalking this site, pouring over what is written here and then distorting it. He does this 24/7. It makes one wonder how he ever sells stuff at his big box store.

Because he is such a weaselly liar and an utter douche it might be fun for some to kick his ass, while challenging him to display his mad ninja skillz and then mocking him while giving him an atomic wedgie - just like the cool kids did all through his miserable HS experience. The problem with that is that there is really no honor in beating the crap out of such a pitiful specimen.

329 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:17:31am

re: #328 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey guess what? A class of 2007 poster, Tarkloon with less than 100 posts total and 49 karma, put up a page:

Legend of the Fist: The Return of Chen Zhen - An Avalanche of Ass-Kicking...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I posted this little thing:

You know it's funny. There is a stalker named chen-zen.

He is a thirty-something loser who still lives in his parent's house. He has a menial job selling electronics at a big box store though he believes he is some sort of computer god. He drives a crappy little car that he thinks is like a Porsche. He believes he is a kung fu master, when in reality, he is a wimpy white guy with the muscle tone of a marshmallow... and oh yes... has massive delusions of grandeur.

He also hasn't had a date since the Bush administration. Bush Sr. However, his mum tells him he is special.

You should beware of him. He proves that he has absolutely no life at all at any given chance by endlessly, tirelessly stalking this site, pouring over what is written here and then distorting it. He does this 24/7. It makes one wonder how he ever sells stuff at his big box store.

Because he is such a weaselly liar and an utter douche it might be fun for some to kick his ass, while challenging him to display his mad ninja skillz and then mocking him while giving him an atomic wedgie - just like the cool kids did all through his miserable HS experience. The problem with that is that there is really no honor in beating the crap out of such a pitiful specimen.

I guess you missed where Thanos said that's his sock. It was yesterday or so.

330 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:18:35am

re: #329 wrenchwench

I guess you missed where Thanos said that's his sock. It was yesterday or so.

Ohh bummer...

Well I love Thanos and Thanos knows we are cool.

Heh, in anycase, our boy Chen will read it anyway...

331 Kragar  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:18:36am

Libyan Mercs using human shields

Injured fighters streaming back from Brega described the regime’s mercenaries dragging women and children from cars and using them as human shields. Their painful journeys from the battlefields to understaffed hospitals in Benghazi also revealed how the grinding days of conflict are straining the rebellion’s ability to sustain itself with enough nurses, ambulances and basic medical supplies.

332 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:21:51am

re: #329 wrenchwench

And crap, I prolly owe you $10.

333 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:23:59am

re: #332 LudwigVanQuixote

And crap, I prolly owe you $10.

Hee hee hee!

334 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:24:21am

re: #331 kragar (proud to be kafir)

Keeping tabs on the fighting in Libya (map of where battles are occurring); dozens of people were killed in one town as pro-Khadafi thugs opened fire on crowds, straining hospital resources.

Expect Khadafi to issue a statement claiming that the death toll is once again exaggerated and that only a small percentage of Libyans are rising up against him, and that he's exactly what the Libyans want and need.

Oh, and that al Qaeda is behind everything with their drugging coffees and Nescafes (but al Qaeda doesn't have a presence in Libya and the drug that Khadafi claimed to prove his point is a mild painkiller whose side effects are primarily drowsiness and constipation).

335 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:25:22am

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had always been told that you can't eat a deer after it's been hit by a car. Found out that is just an old wive's tale. My brother-in-law (upper NY State Redneck) said the only thing that matters is how long it takes to bleed it.

ENJOY YOUR SAUSAGE PATTIES!

Well, my husband's uncle once hit a deer with his car--didn't quite kill it--and decided to take it home to eat. So he loaded the injured deer into the back of his car--not truck, car--and drove it home through the backroads of rural Louisiana.

The deer went to its eternal reward somewhere on this trek--probably still unclear as to what the hell was happening--and Uncle arrived home to be told by his mother that it had set too long, and the meat would be no good.

She then had to call it in, since it was out of deer hunting season. The call was a little surreal. "No, it was HIT at the intersection of the highway and White Ark. It's in my front yard right now. In the backseat of my son's car."

336 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:25:49am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

CNN notices the growing White Rights movement...
Are whites racially oppressed?

That's absolutely pathetic. Do these people just not know anyone who's black? Do they not know of any of the research that shows how blacks are still discriminated against in everything from hiring, to firing, to housing, to the criminal justice system?

In-fucking-sane.

337 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:30:22am

re: #173 RogueOne

Big local story obviously. It's a pretty weak case but he did violate the letter of the law. Here's the local link:
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

Sounds like not such a big deal.

338 Slap  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:31:23am

re: #307 oaktree

Hmm, why do I suspect the recommended wingnut solution is that we violently invade Mexico and make *our* laws *their* laws so our agents can travel about armed as they please.

Well....if this story turns out to be based in fact, the guns will be waiting for them....

ATF: Walking Guns Into Mexico?

Again -- if true, what a clustertruck.

339 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:33:11am

re: #215 lawhawk

Huckabee slams Natalie Portman for being young and pregnant.

Red meat for the masses?

Portman can definitely take care of herself and her soon to be born kid(s). She's financially secure AFAIK, and the Oscar win helps in that department as well.

Huckabee's beef? She's a bad role model, citing high out-of-wedlock birth rates among African Americans and that 41% of all kids are born out-of-wedlock (which seems in line with percentages reported elsewhere). Yet, she was an Intel Science Competition semi-finalist, and graduated from Yale.

'citing high out-of-wedlock birth rates among African Americans'--? And he feels that Natalie Portman is a big role model for young African Americans?

Oh, nevermind.

340 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:35:25am

re: #259 Alouette

W.T.F.

Ohio 5th Grade class divided into "masters" and "slaves" for social studies lesson.

I've taught fifth-graders! I can tell you right now, that is NOT a good idea!!!

341 albusteve  Fri, Mar 4, 2011 10:38:58am

re: #338 Slap

Well...if this story turns out to be based in fact, the guns will be waiting for them...

ATF: Walking Guns Into Mexico?

Again -- if true, what a clustertruck.

no big deal, the border is safer than ever


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