Looking at these stars suddenly dwarfed my own troubles and all the gravities of terrestrial life. I thought of their unfathomable distance, and the slow inevitable drift of their movements out of the unknown past into the unknown future.
— H. G. Wells
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Mr Pancakes Fri, Apr 1, 2011 11:49:12pm |
re: #1 laZardo
Well, their futures are unknown.
[Video]
I miss George Carlin……. he manged to piss everyone off, and made everyone laugh.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 1, 2011 11:54:46pm |
re: #2 Mr Pancakes
I miss George Carlin… he manged to piss everyone off, and made everyone laugh.
I find it somewhat ironic that the current GOP playbook can be summed up by one Carlin joke.
“Lead, follow, or get out of the way”. You know what I do when I see that shirt; I obstruct. I stand right in the guy’s path, force him to walk around me, he gets a little past me, I spin him around kick him in the nuts, rip off his shirt, wipe it on my ass, and shove it down his fucking throat.
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Kragar Sat, Apr 2, 2011 12:15:55am |
Ah, thank you cheezy Australian horror movies for getting the gore to humor ratio just right.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 2, 2011 12:45:25am |
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Apr 2, 2011 1:12:08am |
A lot of lurking stealth downginging goes on late at night….. I thought that was frowned upon.
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Apr 2, 2011 1:18:52am |
re: #8 Mr Pancakes
A lot of lurking stealth downginging goes on late at night… I thought that was frowned upon.
To be fair, and correct my misspelling, stealthy up and down dinging.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 2, 2011 4:06:26am |
Here follows some psycho-metaphysics.
If you are not hot for philosophy, best just to skip it.
The Aneristic Principle is that of apparent order; the Eristic Principle is that of apparent disorder. Both order and disorder are man made concepts and are artificial divisions of pure chaos, which is a level deeper than is the level of distinction making.
With our concept-making apparatus called “the brain” we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us.
The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled “reality” and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see “reality” differently.
It is only the ideas-about-reality which differ. Real (capital-T) True reality is a level deeper than is the level of concept.
We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The order is in the grid. That is the Aneristic Principle.
Western philosophy is traditionally concerned with contrasting one grid with another grid, and amending grids in hopes of finding a perfect one that will account for all reality and will, hence, (say unenlightened westerners) be True. This is illusory; it is what we Erisians call the Aneristic Illusion. Some grids can be more useful than others, some more beautiful than others, some more pleasant than others, etc., but none can be more True than any other.
Disorder is simply unrelated information viewed through some particular grid. But, like “relation”, no-relation is a concept. Male, like female, is an idea about sex. To say that male-ness is “absence of female-ness”, or vice versa, is a matter of definition and metaphysically arbitrary. The artificial concept of no-relation is the Eristic Principle.
The belief that “order is true” and disorder is false or somehow wrong, is the Aneristic Illusion. To say the same of disorder, is the Eristic Illusion.
The point is that (little-t) truth is a matter of definition relative to the grid one is using at the moment, and that (capital-T) Truth, metaphysical reality, is irrelevant to grids entirely. Pick a grid, and through it some chaos appears ordered and some appears disordered. Pick another grid, and the same chaos will appear differently ordered and disordered.
Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
—Malaclypse the Younger, Principia Discordia, Pages 00049–00050
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 4:12:35am |
re: #13 WindUpBird
Pick a grid, and through it some chaos appears yet this kind of metaphysical bullshit is the same disordered pap that comes from someone’s head who has too much free time on their hands and accessibility to too many stimulants and coffee shops.
Pick another grid, and you’ll find another Swedenborg or Kant hiding under it.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 4:39:38am |
Bulletin…
While hiking through the remote swamps of the Florida everglades, I chanced across something that looked exactly like a meteorite that I saw on the TV show “Meteorite Men”. Just like the rock on TV, this meteorite is a rare carbonaceous CM1 type of meteorite from asteroid Ceres. I could not believe my luck, and I was cautiously optimistic until I could get the specimen analyzed to confirm it’s meteoritic origins.
[Link: www.galactic-stone.com…]
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 4:47:48am |
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:00:02am |
re: #16 Walter L. Newton
Bulletin…
[Link: www.galactic-stone.com…]
From the awe-inspiring April 1st meteor swarm.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:01:18am |
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:12:43am |
re: #9 Mr Pancakes
To be fair, and correct my misspelling, stealthy up and down dinging.
I probably do a good bit of stealth updings—when I have time to read off-hours threads. This one is quite young for this hour in CDT.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:16:04am |
re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I find it somewhat ironic that the current GOP playbook can be summed up by one Carlin joke.
“Lead, follow, or get out of the way”. You know what I do when I see that shirt; I obstruct. I stand right in the guy’s path, force him to walk around me, he gets a little past me, I spin him around kick him in the nuts, rip off his shirt, wipe it on my ass, and shove it down his fucking throat.
It’s juvenile, but I have heard so many Generals say: “He puts his pants on one leg at a time, like the rest of us” that I developed the habit of flopping back on the bed and pulling BOTH my pantlegs up simultaneously. Puts me a leg up on them.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:27:56am |
re: #13 WindUpBird
I accepted your invitation to skip it, but that’s only true from one POV.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:32:23am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:33:35am |
Speaking of troubles… My mother-in-law probably has pancreatic cancer. I love my mother-in-law dearly. Truly one of the best people I’ve ever known.
The medical folks are taking their time with doing what needs to be done.
Was complaining to my wife this morning about the slowness of these processes, she (who works in Oncology) told me “Honey, if they were rushing it would be because there was some hope.”
I stare at the stars and think about how tiny we are relative to the universe. Doesn’t help a fucking bit. I am devastated beyond words.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:37:21am |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m very sorry to hear that.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:39:12am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:43:02am |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Then those Lizards who pray, please send a prayer first to FBV’s mother-in-law and then one to FBV. For those otherwise inclined, think good thoughts, it can’t hurt.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:44:50am |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry to hear that. I didn’t know your spouse working in oncology. I have a good friend who works for an oncologist, I can’t think of a much more depressing job.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:46:17am |
Good morning Lizards …. It appears that Richard Goldstone is having second thoughts about his report on Israel’s actions in gaza.
[Link: www.haaretz.com…]
Why do I feel that this report will get far less publicity than his original hatchet job on the topic?
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laZardo Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:47:09am |
re: #32 _RememberTonyC
It may make its way into the so-called-activist circles at least, and he’ll be a “sellout” before the incoming week is over.
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abolitionist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:47:15am |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
{ FBV } Sympathies. (Widower here, with 2 daughters.)
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:47:47am |
John Cleese on extremism
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:50:15am |
re: #33 laZardo
It may make its way into the so-called-activist circles at least, and he’ll be a “sellout” before the incoming week is over.
True …. Or a “tool” of the Israeli lobby
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:53:11am |
re: #32 _RememberTonyC
Good morning Lizards … It appears that Richard Goldstone is having second thoughts about his report on Israel’s actions in gaza.
[Link: www.haaretz.com…]
Why do I feel that this report will get far less publicity than his original hatchet job on the topic?
No… you see… it’s still Israel’s fault…
“Charges mounted against Israel in the Goldstone Report, including those of alleged war crimes and intentionally targeting civilians, would have been modified had Israel cooperated with the United Nations’ fact-finding commission, the head of the commission former jurist Richard Goldstone said on Friday.”
Phew… for a moment I thought the UN had lost it’s direction.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:56:34am |
re: #32 _RememberTonyC
Good morning Lizards … It appears that Richard Goldstone is having second thoughts about his report on Israel’s actions in gaza.
[Link: www.haaretz.com…]
Why do I feel that this report will get far less publicity than his original hatchet job on the topic?
Oh, bullshit…
I regret that our fact-finding mission did not have such evidence explaining the circumstances in which we said civilians in Gaza were targeted, because it probably would have influenced our findings about intentionality and war crimes.”
It was well known they were firing rockets from civilian areas ans the Un schools and hospitals. They even wired the gaza zoo with explosives. It’s nice to see a change of heart but he’s still not being honest.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:00:11am |
This explains everything…
“A bizarre spate of television presenters dissolving into on-air gibberish has sparked claims that the U.S. military could be to blame. A popular theory being circulated online blames the U.S. Military’s supposed research into using microwaves as a mind control weapon. “
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]
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laZardo Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:01:44am |
re: #39 Walter L. Newton
Glenn Beck is part of the conspiracy! He already begins his routines with gibberish!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:02:44am |
‘I am healthy and happy,’ insists Candice Swanepoel: Victoria’s Secret model defends her stick-thin figure
(the woman in the middle of this group shot)
Image: article-0-0B68C4F300000578-524_634x754.jpg
She may be happy and healthy but she looks like a fucking freak. FAIL.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:03:41am |
re: #39 Walter L. Newton
This explains everything…
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]
It’s just what happens when you shovel bullshit without proper Personal Protective Equipment.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:06:51am |
re: #42 Decatur Deb
It’s just what happens when you shovel bullshit without proper Personal Protective Equipment.
Fine… you don’t have to give any credence to the story, but at least respect the fact that I may believe it.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:09:17am |
re: #43 Walter L. Newton
Fine… you don’t have to give any credence to the story, but at least respect the fact that I may believe it.
Give it up, Walter. You’re an old cynic, not an old fool.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:09:42am |
re: #44 Decatur Deb
Give it up, Walter. You’re an old cynic, not an old fool.
Bzzzzzzzzzz… you feel that?
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abolitionist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:13:07am |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
Official: Radioactive water leaking into Pacific through crack in concrete
Meanwhile, Hidehiko Nishiyama of Japan’s nuclear safety agency said there is a plan to inject hydrogen into the Nos. 1, 2 and 3 reactors.
WTF? While I appreciate that hydrogen is the most efficient gaseous heat transfer medium, there are other considerations. Hydrogen embrittlement
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:13:25am |
re: #41 Walter L. Newton
‘I am healthy and happy,’ insists Candice Swanepoel: Victoria’s Secret model defends her stick-thin figure
(the woman in the middle of this group shot)
Image: article-0-0B68C4F300000578-524_634x754.jpg
She may be happy and healthy but she looks like a fucking freak. FAIL.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]
I don’t know. I’ve always been partial to the meth diet look. I dig skinny chicks.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:19:33am |
re: #46 abolitionist
Meanwhile, Hidehiko Nishiyama of Japan’s nuclear safety agency said there is a plan to inject hydrogen into the Nos. 1, 2 and 3 reactors.
WTF? While I appreciate that hydrogen is the most efficient gaseous heat transfer medium, there are other considerations. Hydrogen embrittlement
It’s really hard to tell what’s going on. The Press is doing a lousy job of reporting on the Japan reactors.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:22:08am |
re: #47 RogueOne
I don’t know. I’ve always been partial to the meth diet look. I dig skinny chicks.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:23:38am |
re: #49 Walter L. Newton
and redheads get 2 extra-credit points on the 10 pt scale.
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laZardo Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:24:48am |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
They brought Bill Nye on the major networks to explain things early on. I think that’s a pretty sure sign that we’re all fucked.
/ :P
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:26:34am |
Butler/sports nerdiness:
Final Four runs huge off the court, too.
[Link: espn.go.com…]
According to Miller, when Butler went to the Final Four exactly 12 months ago, the school estimated it was worth about $450 million in exposure.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:27:15am |
re: #51 laZardo
They brought Bill Nye on the major networks to explain things early on. I think that’s a pretty sure sign that we’re all fucked.
/ :P
This may turn out to be payback to the rest of the world for WWII.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:30:45am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:34:43am |
Any keyboard musicians out there… I have a recommendation for ya!
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:36:31am |
Good morning lizards!
Roseanne Barr: ‘I’m Going to Run for President on Behalf of Tax Paying People’
In case you were worried about the future of the United States, your problems have been solved.
On Tuesday evening, while filling in for Joy Behar on HLN, comedienne Roseanne Barr announced that she’s running for president (video follows with transcript and commentary)
Awesome!
Barr/Moore 2012!
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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:37:24am |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Speaking of troubles… My mother-in-law probably has pancreatic cancer. I love my mother-in-law dearly. Truly one of the best people I’ve ever known.
The medical folks are taking their time with doing what needs to be done.
Was complaining to my wife this morning about the slowness of these processes, she (who works in Oncology) told me “Honey, if they were rushing it would be because there was some hope.”
I stare at the stars and think about how tiny we are relative to the universe. Doesn’t help a fucking bit. I am devastated beyond words.
{{FBV}}
That’s a particularly nasty form of cancer. By the time symptoms show up, it’s often very advanced. My mom had it. Prayers for you and your family. I hope they can keep her comfortable.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:38:59am |
Meanwhile, in Syria yesterday:
In Damascus, hundreds gathered in Al Rifai mosque to protest after Friday prayers; however, government forces reportedly sealed the mosque and attacked those who tried to leave.
I have no words for this. Anybody?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:39:11am |
re: #54 Killgore Trout
Jesse Ventura: Sarah Palin will be 2012 GOP nominee, and “she’ll do what she’s told”
OMG, he really said that?
Two crazies - Palin & Ventura. Is that what the ticket will be?
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:40:17am |
re: #58 ProLifeLiberal
Meanwhile, in Syria yesterday:
I have no words for this. Anybody?
Israel will ultimately be blamed by the UN and a resolution against them will be made shortly afterwards.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:41:43am |
re: #56 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
Roseanne Barr: ‘I’m Going to Run for President on Behalf of Tax Paying People’
Awesome!
Barr/Moore 2012!
I was wondering when some of the loony left was going to join in the fun. Kucinich’s “‘I did’ see a UFO” is getting old.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:42:18am |
Hugo Chavez Tells Venezuelans to Diet
President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has a passion for eating fatty food, reading Marxist propaganda books and giving long-winded and boring nationally-televised speeches. So, it came as a shock to Venezuelans last Sunday that their obese leader lectured them on the importance of dieting rather than encourage them to praise former U.S. president Jimmy Carter for his recent visit to Cuba.
The San Jose Mercury News reports that, “President Hugo Chavez urged Venezuelans on Sunday to cut their calories to avoid obesity – the latest lifestyle recommendation by the self-proclaimed socialist crusader.”
In recent weeks, Chavez has lobbied against what he perceives as the evils of capitalism that include alcoholism, breast implants and violent television programs.
On Sunday speaking during his weekly television and radio program that, “be careful with weight gain! We are eating better, that’s been proven. We’re leaving malnutrition behind. It no longer exists in the country, but be careful with obesity.”
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:42:21am |
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:42:44am |
re: #58 ProLifeLiberal
Meanwhile, in Syria yesterday:
I have no words for this. Anybody?
He doesn’t have the blood lust of his father but by now he knows there’s no way the world is going to step in and stop whatever level of slaughter he feels is necessary to keep the populace under control. It could be worse and it just might get worse.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:43:18am |
re: #62 NJDhockeyfan
“According to a recent Washington Post article, legislatures in at least 25 states are currently debating more than 140 bills aimed at curbing obesity.”
[Link: usgovinfo.about.com…]
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:46:31am |
re: #64 RogueOne
Barring outright invasion, I don’t see how one could intervene. Unlike Libya, using Naval and Air Assets won’t help, because there are few targets for us. And Syria is murkier, as we don’t know how much support he has.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:49:06am |
re: #67 ProLifeLiberal
Well… what word are you looking for? You have any question who did this? You have any questions why this was done? You think these are freedom loving governments or theocratic authoritarian despots?
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:51:58am |
re: #67 ProLifeLiberal
Barring outright invasion, I don’t see how one could intervene. Unlike Libya, using Naval and Air Assets won’t help, because there are few targets for us. And Syria is murkier, as we don’t know how much support he has.
We have the ability to take out whatever military assets we choose in Syria but it wouldn’t be anywhere near as easy as Libya. We just don’t have the heart to do it and, in this case, I don’t think a massive military response would be the right way to go.
OTOH, overturning the syrian government would be a huge coup. Without what is basically an Iranian satellite the situations in Lebanon and Israel would change dramatically. That’s almost too big of an opportunity to pass up.
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darthstar Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:53:26am |
re: #68 Walter L. Newton
Well… what word are you looking for? You have any question who did this? You have any questions why this was done? You think these are freedom loving governments or theocratic authoritarian despots?
No government, not even our own, “loves freedom”…but “theocratic authoritarian despot” is just as much a throw away phrase as “freedom loving”. Governments want to manage and control - which is what people want which is why we have governments. How they manage and control can sometimes be questionable.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:54:06am |
re: #68 Walter L. Newton
I don’t know, I guess I’m venting sort of. I know the US can’t really do anything, but I wish we could. I feel frustrated.
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darthstar Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:55:14am |
re: #71 ProLifeLiberal
I don’t know, I guess I’m venting sort of. I know the US can’t really do anything, but I wish we could. I feel frustrated.
Give it four or five hundred years…it’ll work itself out.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:57:28am |
re: #72 darthstar
Give it four or five hundred years…it’ll work itself out.
I love the smell of cynicism in the morning….
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 6:57:36am |
re: #71 ProLifeLiberal
I don’t know, I guess I’m venting sort of. I know the US can’t really do anything, but I wish we could. I feel frustrated.
I can agree with the frustration.
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laZardo Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:00:36am |
re: #73 RogueOne
I love the smell of cynicism in the morning…
Oh shit, the HAARP machine’s leaking. Brb.
q;
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:00:50am |
Crazy Calypso Louie defends his BFF again…
Farrakhan Steps Up Attacks on Obama Administration for War in Libya
In a wide-ranging two-hour speech, Minister Louis Farrakhan stepped up his anti-Obama Administration rhetoric for the second time in as many weeks, condemning officials for waging war in Libya on Moammar Gadhafi.
Farrakhan warned that Obama’s action could result in Biblical-like destruction of the United States for its arrogance of power and repression.
The flamboyant Nation of Islam leader spoke before a packed house of mostly followers in the sprawling Mosque Maryam on Chicago’s South Side. Dressed in a gray suit, white shirt and white bow tie, Farrakhan spoke in his stylized Southern preacher drawl:
“I don’t care what Gadhafi has done,” he said before a roaring crowd. “He is not the mad dog you see on TV. Donald Trump sounds more like a gangster to me.”
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:01:39am |
re: #73 RogueOne
I love the smell of cynicism in the morning…
Ready for the game tonight? GO BUTLER!
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darthstar Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:02:20am |
Okay folks…since this bug I caught on Wednesday is still with me - stuffy head, runny nose, sore throat - it seems the only responsible thing to do is go snow skiing. I’m going to be dragging ass today on patrol, but I have to get my days in as I’m still a few short of my commitment, and there’s only a month or so left to get them in. Ah, the Sierras…should be slushy in this heat.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:02:57am |
re: #76 NJDhockeyfan
That idiot should STFU. He has extremely few followers.
Go VCU! I’m going to help at the local Medieval Fair, so see you all later.
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laZardo Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:04:14am |
re: #76 NJDhockeyfan
Donald Trump sounds more like a gangster to me.”>
They see him combin’, and sprayin’…
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:04:21am |
re: #80 ProLifeLiberal
That idiot should STFU. He has extremely few followers.
Go VCU! I’m going to help at the local Medieval Fair, so see you all later.
I’m going there later today..
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:05:49am |
re: #77 HoosierHoops
Ready for the game tonight? GO BUTLER!
Should be another great game. I hope Butler hasn’t pushed it’s luck too far by having to win so many close ones. They’ll definitely have to play harder than Purdue, they stunk it up and then doubled Painters salary.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:06:03am |
re: #82 HoosierHoops
Well, see you then probably. I’ll be helping the vendors and stuff as part of APO. Bring Winston!
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:07:28am |
re: #84 ProLifeLiberal
Well, see you then probably. I’ll be helping the vendors and stuff as part of APO. Bring Winston!
I wonder how parking will be off Jenkins..We might take a cab
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:07:36am |
Koran burning sparks more violence in Afghanistan
A street protest in Kandahar leaves up to 8 dead, and gunmen attack a U.S.-run military installation. The bloodshed comes a day after 7 were killed at a U.N. compound by a mob angered by the Florida Koran burning.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:08:24am |
WTF?
Brooklyn teacher busted for making ‘Columbine’ threat
A Brooklyn art teacher was hauled out of school in cuffs yesterday for threatening to launch a terrifying Columbine-style gun attack, sources said yesterday.
Sabrina Milo, 34, was arrested at about noon at Fort Hamilton HS in Bay Ridge on charges of making terroristic threats, cops said.
Law-enforcement sources told The Post that Milo allegedly told co-workers yesterday that she would shoot up the school like in the infamous 1999 Columbine HS massacre in Colorado.
She allegedly made the statements Tuesday at about 12:30 p.m. to three teachers at the school.
Sources said Milo wanted to come to the school with a machine gun under a trench coat and that “it would be Columbine all over again.”
She also told another teacher not to worry because she liked that person, the sources said.
This wasn’t the first brush with trouble for Milo, who was hired by the Department of Education in 2001.
She was sent to a rubber room for a disciplinary issue last May, but was allowed to return to the classroom at the start of the school year in September.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:13:06am |
re: #87 NJDhockeyfan
WTF?
Sounds like someone was having a bad day. That lady can’t f’ing wait for summer to start.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:14:07am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:15:09am |
re: #87 NJDhockeyfan
WTF?
My old hood… the only shooting up I remember in the 50’s was the mob occasionally taking care of some private business.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:15:56am |
IDF strikes Gaza Hamas militants ‘planning to kidnap Israelis’
IDF planes attacked a cell of Palestinian militants in the south of the Gaza Strip early Saturday morning, Channel 10 reported. Palestinian sources have confirmed that three men were killed in the attack.
An IDF Spokesperson stated that the three men killed in Gaza were members of a terrorist cell that was “planning to kidnap Israelis over the upcoming Jewish holiday of Passover” in Israel and in the Sinai Peninsula, a popular spring tourist destination for Israelis.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:17:05am |
re: #90 Walter L. Newton
My old hood… the only shooting up I remember in the 50’s was the mob occasionally taking care of some private business.
And the mob only killed other mob members and left innocent people alone back then. Times have changed.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:18:00am |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
That is why I don’t eat grapes at home…I only eat them at work…Be my luck I’d drop a grape and Winston would eat it
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:18:01am |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
Everyone see the story about the dog they found floating off of japan for 3 weeks?
Japan’s coast guard rescues dog from floating roof
[Link: www.cbsnews.com…]
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:20:10am |
re: #94 RogueOne
Everyone see the story about the dog they found floating off of japan for 3 weeks?
Japan’s coast guard rescues dog from floating roof
[Link: www.cbsnews.com…]
I saw that this morning. Amazing that dog survived for 3 weeks without food & water.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:21:14am |
re: #93 HoosierHoops
That is why I don’t eat grapes at home…I only eat them at work…Be my luck I’d drop a grape and Winston would eat it
I never would have guessed grapes were toxic to dogs. Probably cats as well.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:21:16am |
re: #93 HoosierHoops
That is why I don’t eat grapes at home…I only eat them at work…Be my luck I’d drop a grape and Winston would eat it
Does your dog like fruit? I have one that does (he’ll knock you down and take your banana from you) and one that doesn’t like any fruit at all.
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Obdicut Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:21:25am |
re: #92 NJDhockeyfan
And the mob only killed other mob members and left innocent people alone back then. Times have changed.
Not all that true. The mob also killed people who didn’t pay up, people who informed on them, and members of juries.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:21:45am |
Hezbollah terrorists are hiding weapons on Israel’s border in violation of ceasefire
In the UN-sponsored ceasefire that ended the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah, both sides agreed to the deal.
Guess who’s treating it like a dirty piece of Kleenex? Why, Hezbollah, of course.
A map released by the Israeli military details nearly 1,000 underground bunkers, weapons storage facilities and other sites built in the south of Lebanon by the terrorist group.
Many are near hospitals, homes and schools - in direct violation of international law. And many are south of the Litani River, in a zone where Hezbollah is forbidden from keeping weapons.
All told, according to Israeli estimates, Hezbollah commands more than 40,000 rockets, most courtesy of Iran and Syria. That’s three times what it had before the 2006 conflict. And lots of these have longer range - they can reach Tel Aviv.
Shocka!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:21:55am |
re: #98 Obdicut
Not all that true. The mob also killed people who didn’t pay up, people who informed on them, and members of juries.
And horses.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:23:45am |
re: #98 Obdicut
Not all that true. The mob also killed people who didn’t pay up, people who informed on them, and members of juries.
That’s true. The mob killed them for reasons that would help the mob. Now anyone can be killed no matter if they have dealt with the mob or not.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:24:44am |
re: #97 RogueOne
Does your dog like fruit? I have one that does (he’ll knock you down and take your banana from you) and one that doesn’t like any fruit at all.
Winston loves chicken
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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:27:38am |
re: #102 HoosierHoops
Winston loves chicken
So does my dog. And one of my cats. You should see them when they think they’re competing for the same piece of chicken -
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:28:26am |
Wingnuts are pimping the latest Climate-gate scandal…..
The Smog of Reprisal
It’s a complicated story but the guy was fired for writing a paper that diesel fumes are harmless. He’s also a shill for the tobacco industry.
James E. Enstrom
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:32:34am |
re: #105 Killgore Trout
Republicans are calling for an investigation…
12 California State Legislators Write UCLA, Decrying Retaliation Case
Led by Chief Republican Whip Dan Logue, Assemblymember, Third District, the legislators write that they “remain deeply troubled by the University’s inability to provide credible cause for Dr. Enstrom’s dismissal, and the appearance of political interference in the University’s academic discourse.”
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:34:18am |
The Obama Administration has rolled out another 129 waivers to one provision of the new health reform law, with almost half of those new exemptions going to various union groups.
The extra waivers bring the total to 1,168, giving businesses, health plans, unions and others an exemption from a portion of the law that in 2011 requires an annual benefit limit of no less than $750,000.
In other words, these 1,168 waivers allow companies to limit health insurance payouts to less than $750,000 - those annual benefit limits will be phased out by 2014.
The waivers now cover almost three million Americans, but the feds argue that is “less than 2 percent of all Americans who have private health insurance.
Almost half of the new round of waivers were given to union health benefit programs, a fact that is sure spur new complaints from health law critics in the Congress, who see these waivers as evidence that the Obama health plan is flawed.
Among the unions that were recently approved for waivers:
Teamsters Local 237 in New York, covering over 51,000 workers
Carpenters District Council of Kansas City Welfare Plan, for 20,898 workers
Southeastern Iron Workers, for 5,143 policies
Minneapolis Retail Meat Cutters and Food Handlers for 10,720
the Fulton Fish Market Welfare Fund for 1,211
Among the non-union recipients of new waivers, those included very average sounding businesses like the Mary Cariola Children’s Center in Rochester, NY, the Tumex Corporation of Yuma, Arizona, Belo Tank Xpress and Lexus of Austin.Links to a list of waivers can be found at the bottom of the page at [Link: cciio.cms.gov…]
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Obdicut Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:37:47am |
re: #101 NJDhockeyfan
That’s true. The mob killed them for reasons that would help the mob. Now anyone can be killed no matter if they have dealt with the mob or not.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:37:59am |
Oh, cool!
A local elementary school class (a combined 2nd & 3rd grade class) won the national elementary grand prize in Disney’s Planet Challenge, an environmental and science competition for classrooms in third through eighth grades.
The children and teachers will be guests of the Walt Disney Co. at a May 6 recognition ceremony and parade at Disneyland, the original Disney theme park at Anaheim, Calif.
The Disney Channel’s television programming also will feature the students’ project to grow and plant beach grass for erosion control on Louisiana’s coast.
“I’m so proud of them because they took what they’re doing for the state of Louisiana — helping the coast, all of their wetlands projects — and they turned it into something that’s going to be celebrated throughout the state,” said Tammy Wood, the district’s coordinator of gifted and talented programs.
In November, the students in the combined second- and third-grade program planted 503 stalks of salt-tolerant beach grass — bitter panicum — on Grand Isle State Park’s beach and low sand dunes. They grew the grass in long tubes in their schoolyard nursery from cuttings taken from the joints of mature grass stems.
The project is part of the LSU Coastal Roots program, which works with schools to combat land erosion and encourage habitat restoration in the state.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:38:17am |
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:48:39am |
Jimmy Carter Bashes U.S. In Meeting With Communists
The only American president to publicly support Middle Eastern terrorism has completed a schmooze fest with a communist dictator in a country that appears on the U.S. State Department’s list of terrorist-sponsoring nations.
It marks the latest “humanitarian” mission for Jimmy Carter, who just a few years ago became the only American commander-in-chief to participate in a hug fest with the head of the world’s leading Middle Eastern terrorist group. During that highly-publicized Syrian jaunt, Carter met with Hamas Leader Khaled Meshal who runs his violent operation from Damascus to avoid being arrested by the Israeli government.
The sophisticated and well-funded Palestinian extremist group has for years appeared on the State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organizations and for a former president, or any western leader of Carter’s stature, to meet with its boss is inconceivable. Carter has long supported Palestinian extremism and justifies its violence as a reaction to Israeli apartheid. He even wrote a book (“Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid”) about it in 2007.
This week the one-time Georgia peanut farmer made the rounds in Cuba, where he hung out with communist Dictator Fidel Castro and his brother Raul. Carter is the only sitting or former American president to visit the Caribbean island, also deemed a sponsor of terrorism by the U.S. government, since Castro took power in 1959. Carter also visited Cuba in 2002.
Great stuff Jimmy Carter! What can you do as an encore for us?
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:48:50am |
re: #1 laZardo
Well, their futures are unknown.
[Video]
Now remembering my favorite line from Jurassic Park. The book that is.
No. You don’t understand. The planet is not in danger. We are in danger. We don’t have the power to destroy life on Earth. We don’t have the power to save it either. We might have the power to save ourselves.
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Tigger2005 Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:49:07am |
A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sun-rise, but a galaxy-rise
A morning filled with four hundred billion suns
The rising of the Milky Way.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:50:16am |
We in Israel welcome the Arab spring
Shimon Peres
The internet, Facebook and Twitter have created mass communications and social spaces that regimes cannot control. These developments allowed young people to compare notes with their contemporaries in other countries, and to see clearly how their own governments wasted wealth and time to enhance their own power while ignoring the needs of their people. It opened their eyes.
The upheaval we see today in our region is driven by a clash of generations rather than a clash of civilisations. The older generation had greater respect for land than science. But we live in an age when science, more than soil, has become the provider of growth and abundance. Living just on the land creates loneliness in an age of globality.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:52:08am |
re: #13 WindUpBird
This is why I find Objectivists amusing. It is impossible for a human to be objective.
Or as I say often, “I no longer care about Truth. I prefer wisdom.”
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:54:00am |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Damn, that really sucks. ((FBV))
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iceweasel Sat, Apr 2, 2011 7:55:34am |
re: #116 Romantic Heretic
This is why I find Objectivists amusing. It is impossible for a human to be objective.
Or as I say often, “I no longer care about Truth. I prefer wisdom.”
What’s wisdom? To know that you do not know?
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:00:58am |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
John Cleese on extremism
[Video]
Seen that before. Love it.
One thing Cleese should have mentioned is that the anger, fear and hatred that extremists possess is an addiction. Those emotions kick in the fight-or-flight reflexes which flood the body with all kinds of chemicals, and the extremist gets really fucking high.
Of course like all addictions, the body becomes inured to them and bigger doses are required to get the same high. Plus the body demands that high more often.
It is, to my mind, an explanation for the behaviour of extremists. They’re junkies.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:07:00am |
re: #119 Romantic Heretic
It is, to my mind, an explanation for the behaviour of extremists. They’re junkies.
Good point. Junkies also build up tolerance and need to move on to stronger drugs, I think that’s what we’re seeing with Glenn Beck and the Tea Party. They’re gone about as far as they can as a mainstream movement but the audience is getting bored because they’ve built up a tolerance. I think we’re seeing a tipping point where the wingnuts will have to decide if they come back to reality or move on to Jesse Ventura, David Icke - type stuff.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:12:37am |
re: #118 iceweasel
Pretty much. Love that old curmudgeon, Socrates. :)
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:13:42am |
Good Morning from SoCal
Movie fans in this morning?
James Cameron has been busy again, pushing technology to make 3-d even crisper and clearer. Amazing guy… Breakthrough after breakthrough.
Paged and posted here-
Excerpt
In a demonstration for theater owners at their CinemaCon convention, Cameron played 3-D footage he recently shot at 24, 48 and 60 frames a second to show the better quality of high-speed filming.
The footage of medieval dinner and fight sequences shot at 48 and 60 frames a second were noticeably superior.
At 24 frames, blurriness was very evident when the camera panned or dollied along the dinner table and when two knights dueled with swords. The fuzzy images greatly diminished at 48 frames and virtually vanished at 60 frames.
“I was stunned when I saw it, at how clear and crisp it was,” Cameron said. “If 3-D is like looking at reality through a window, we’ve taken the glass out of the window.”
New digital projectors rapidly being installed in theaters can handle the higher frame speeds with no more than a software upgrade, said Cameron, who wants faster filming rates to become the standard for 2-D and 3-D movies.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:20:57am |
re: #118 iceweasel
Hi Ice,
Wisdom?
Maybe to be able to see what the truth means for people besides yourself. In part anyway.
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iceweasel Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:22:08am |
re: #123 Rightwingconspirator
Hi Ice,
Wisdom?
Maybe to be able to see what the truth means for people besides yourself. In part anyway.
Sounds good to me!
How are you RWC? What’s shaking? And give my best to your honey.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:28:52am |
re: #124 iceweasel
We had hoped to get out to the poppy fields (just before the big bloom in a week or two I think) with the cameras and a picnic basket, but the clouds have done in the sky today after three crystal clear work days. Grrr.
Maybe we’ll try getting above the clouds to Mt Wilson. Anyway Dragon_Lady is right here *waves* Our best to you and Jimmah of course.
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iceweasel Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:31:29am |
re: #125 Rightwingconspirator
We had hoped to get out to the poppy fields (just before the big bloom in a week or two I think) with the cameras and a picnic basket, but the clouds have done in the sky today after three crystal clear work days. Grrr.
Maybe we’ll try getting above the clouds to Mt Wilson. Anyway Dragon_Lady is right here *waves* Our best to you and Jimmah of course.
Yay poppy fields! I hope you get to have your picnic anyway. Jimmah’s right here too and says hi to you both.
I think it’s hilarious that we have a liberal couple here and a conservative one. Should our paths ever cross, we’ll have to get together. ;)
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:33:05am |
re: #126 iceweasel
Yay poppy fields! I hope you get to have your picnic anyway. Jimmah’s right here too and says hi to you both.
I think it’s hilarious that we have a liberal couple here and a conservative one. Should our paths ever cross, we’ll have to get together. ;)
You bet. I am known for liberal pours of good wine…
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steve Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:44:14am |
I am not sure whether to laugh or cry about this. But the state of Oregon wants to tax electric vehicles by the mile.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:48:17am |
re: #128 steve
I am not sure whether to laugh or cry about this. But the state of Oregon wants to tax electric vehicles by the mile.
We’ll see how it goes. They tried it a few years ago and people were pretty pissed. Personally I’m hoping the Cannabis Tax Act. passes but I’m not holding my breath.
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steve Sat, Apr 2, 2011 8:52:31am |
re: #129 Killgore Trout
I can understand the need to replace lost revenue from less gas sales but $1.43 per mile seems a bit excessive. Charging that much almost seems like the state does not want this to pass. Oh well, only time will tell.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 2, 2011 9:08:11am |
This rebel army stinks….
Ten Libyan rebels killed in coalition air strike
“Some of Gaddafi’s forces sneaked in among the rebels and fired anti-aircraft guns in the air,” said rebel fighter Mustafa Ali Omar. “After that the NATO forces came and bombed them.”
Rebel fighters at the scene said as many as 14 people may have died in the bombing, which they said happened around 10 p.m. local time (2000 GMT).
Most blamed a Gaddafi agent for deliberately drawing the friendly fire but some said other rebels had shot into the air by accident.
“The rebels shot up in the air and the alliance came and bombed them. We are the ones who made the mistake,” said one fighter who did not give his name.
Idiots.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 9:22:47am |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Speaking of troubles… My mother-in-law probably has pancreatic cancer. I love my mother-in-law dearly. Truly one of the best people I’ve ever known.
The medical folks are taking their time with doing what needs to be done.
Was complaining to my wife this morning about the slowness of these processes, she (who works in Oncology) told me “Honey, if they were rushing it would be because there was some hope.”
I stare at the stars and think about how tiny we are relative to the universe. Doesn’t help a fucking bit. I am devastated beyond words.
You’re having a rough year or so in your family. Damn.
Many prayers. I don’t know what the hell else to say.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 2, 2011 9:23:47am |
re: #31 RogueOne
Sorry to hear that. I didn’t know your spouse working in oncology. I have a good friend who works for an oncologist, I can’t think of a much more depressing job.
My landlady in London was a nurse in a children’s oncology ward.
I have absolutely no idea how she did it.
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b_sharp Sat, Apr 2, 2011 10:28:43am |
re: #123 Rightwingconspirator
Hi Ice,
Wisdom?
Maybe to be able to see what the truth means for people besides yourself. In part anyway.
There is such a thing as objective truth on the macro scale, and science is busy trying to determine the rules given specific conditions for that truth. That truth does not change as our human perspectives change. What you are talking about should probably be termed perception rather than truth.
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