Tech Note: The Two-Minute Comment-Editing Pencil Icon

A quick repair function for LGF comments
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In the 10 years we’ve been online, the single feature most requested by LGF users has been the ability to edit comments after they’re posted, to fix typos, bad HTML tags, etc. Sure, we have a nice Ajax-based preview function that lets you see exactly how your comment will look when you post it, but in the heat of the moment it’s easy to hit that “Post” button without previewing … and then your Great American Comment is enshrined for eternity with “dog” misspelled as “dopg.”

Tonight, we’re proud to announce that after years of requesting and complaining, LGF commenters can finally edit their own comments after posting them! Click the pencil icon that appears at the upper right of your comment, and an Ajax dialog box lets you edit the text of the comment and save the changes.

There are limits on this awesome power, as there must be.

You have two minutes after posting your comment to decide you need to change something.

Once you click the pencil icon and open the editing dialog, you have five minutes from the time your comment was posted to submit your changes.

We’re deliberately keeping the time limits rather short, because the idea is to quickly fix a typo, not rewrite an entire comment.

Also, once your comment is posted, everyone who has already loaded it in their browsers will continue to see the old, unedited comment until they reload the page. There’s no easy way to force all the browsers out there to reload edited comments, unfortunately.

One of the LGF sayings that has persisted over the years is, “Preview Is My Friend,” abbreviated as “PIMF.” Now you have another friend — the pencil icon.

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419 comments
1 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:19:51pm

I was going to quote an Abbot and Costello line, but realised it might not be cool.

2 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:20:05pm

It's...so...beautiful! *sniffle* I promised myself I wouldn't cry!

/

3 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:20:31pm

Pencils for everyone!

4 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:20:59pm

Thanks Charles. :)

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21:47pm

Excellent. Maybe this will help with my tendency to assume that people can fill in the correct suffixes for me.

6 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:21:53pm
after years of requesting and complaining

Who? Us? The bestest commenters? [edit] No, I really mean bitching babies.

7 miclaine  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:23:13pm

Can we test it?

shazzam!

twice?

very nice feature!

8 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:23:31pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Excellent. Maybe this will help with my tendency to assume that people can fill in the correct suffixes for me.

Perhaps I won't miss words and will be able to use their, they're and there properly now.

Eh, maybe not.

9 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:24:31pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps I won't miss words and will be able to use their, they're and there properly now.

Eh, maybe not.

Their you go.

10 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:25:15pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Excellent. Maybe this will help with my tendency to assume that people can fill in the correct suffixes for me.

What's a suffix?

11 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:25:29pm

So, I guess this means now we can go back quickly and blank responses to trolls who've been crushed by the banhammer.

12 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:25:39pm

re: #7 miclaine

Can we test iit?

You should see a pencil icon. Give it a try. ( Maybe hit refresh in your browser.)

13 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:26:00pm

re: #10 b_sharp

It's an East Anglian repair.

14 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:26:01pm

re: #4 PhillyPretzel

Thanks Charles. :)

Agreed! Can I edit a troll's comments?

;-)

15 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:26:47pm

re: #10 b_sharp
A suffix is an ending on a word. Bike + er = biker.

16 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:26:48pm

re: #13 jaunte

It's an East Anglian repair.

Baddabing!

17 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:27:01pm

Ooh...this is going to be fun...

And coming back to edit resets the clock?

18 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:27:53pm

re: #15 PhillyPretzel

A suffix is an ending on a word silly. Bike + er = biker.

You mean like Biker Babe?

19 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:28:18pm

re: #15 PhillyPretzel
I tried it and I like it.

20 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:28:39pm

re: #9 b_sharp

Their you go.

Its a great new feature.

21 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:00pm

Weird. All the ads disappeared.

22 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:10pm

This is a great!

Let's try an edit.

Aaaand - I can edit!
Easy to do.

23 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:18pm

TPIMF!
The Pencil is My Friend.
Out, evil Preview, Out!

24 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:22pm

re: #18 b_sharp
LOL and for the babe ::: flying cast iron frying pan ::: //

25 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:41pm

this is a really cool feature Charles..
LOL

26 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:29:41pm

re: #17 darthstar

Ooh...this is going to be fun...

And coming back to edit resets the clock?

Nope...apparently not. Damn you, Charles!

27 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:30:01pm

Rumpelstiltskin

28 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:30:25pm

re: #20 austin_blue

Its a great new feature.

Any upgrade that gets rid of the annoying PIMF is worthy of accolades.

29 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:31:25pm

re: #23 Floral Giraffe

TPIMF!
The Pencil is My Friend.
Out, evil Preview, Out!

PIMF has become, simply "PI" (Pencil Icon).
Love it.

30 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:31:31pm

re: #21 b_sharp

Weird. All the ads disappeared.

You're right! What's up with that, Charles?

They really are gone.

31 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:31:48pm

And now, the stalkers will have a new sport: Trying to capture screw-ups before they're edited to show how "dumb" we are. Or accusing us of editing out "damning" words or sentences.

32 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:31:58pm

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

LOL and for the babe ::: flying cast iron frying pan ::: //

Phrenologists love me.

33 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:32:26pm

I

Edit: I like

Edit 2: I like it!!!

34 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:32:33pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops

this is a really cool feature Charles..
LOL

It Works!

35 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:32:41pm

I still have ads.

36 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:32:41pm

re: #27 jaunte

Rumpelstiltskin

Rumpledsplitskin?

Was that?

37 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:33:09pm

re: #35 PhillyPretzel

I still have ads.

I too.

38 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:33:23pm

re: #36 b_sharp

Rumpledsplitskin?

Was that?

Rumpledforeskin?

39 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:33:57pm

re: #29 reine.de.tout

PIMF has become, simply "PI" (Pencil Icon).
Love it.

Good one!
*waves*

40 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:34:18pm

re: #38 austin_blue

Miles Hastwick?

41 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:34:28pm

re: #34 HoosierHoops

It Works!

You broke it
;(

Heh! I can has edit?

42 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:34:42pm

re: #38 austin_blue

Rumpledforeskin?

Rumplyaftskin.

43 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:34:45pm

re: #39 Floral Giraffe

I love it too. I still like preview and the spell checker.

44 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:35:11pm

Here I sit, watching years of LGF tradition disappear in an instant.

Anybody needs me, I'll be over in the rocking chair, shaking my cane at kids on my lawn.

/

45 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:37:00pm

re: #44 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Here I sit, watching years of LGF tradition disappear in an instant.

Anybody needs me, I'll be over in the rocking chair, shaking my cane at kids on my lawn.

/

Need a refreshing glass of prune juice while you wait?

///

46 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:37:01pm

re: #43 PhillyPretzel

I love it too. I still like preview and the spell checker.

I have never used preview...And I know..Everyone can tell...

47 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:37:02pm

re: #35 PhillyPretzel

I still have ads.

Hmmm... hit refresh and they are still gone.

Must be South Austin ad-jamming rays...

48 simoom  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:37:13pm

Testing.

Edit: Cool, I like it :).

49 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:37:24pm

re: #44 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Here I sit, watching years of LGF tradition disappear in an instant.

Anybody needs me, I'll be over in the rocking chair, shaking my cane at kids on my lawn.

/

Could you please fix the squeak in your chair, it's driving me nuts.

50 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:38:06pm

re: #44 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Gee, now you just reminded me of my dad. I gave him my old cell phone and did not activate the dang thing and I had to do it in front of him and he got upset. I told the phone might be giving us some trouble due to the earthquake in VA. He accepted the reason but still was upset. I will go over the instructions on Saturday with him.

51 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:38:13pm

re: #48 simoom

Testing.

The Proctor is gazing at you suspiciously...

52 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:38:28pm

So far this news is the top tweet for #pimf.

53 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:38:53pm

re: #45 talon_262

Need a refreshing glass of prune juice while you wait?

///

Tis a warrior's drink!

/

54 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:39:56pm

re: #53 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Tis a warrior's drink!

/

No shit.

55 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:40:29pm

re: #46 HoosierHoops

I have never used preview...And I know..Everyone can tell...

I use no buttons, no avatars, no profiles...
I post...yet few people believe it...
and I dig sailing

56 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:40:36pm

re: #54 b_sharp

No shit.

Actually...

57 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:40:38pm

Text "Sorry you spilled your chai latte" to 90999 to donate $1 to the victims of the U.S. East Coast earthquake.

58 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:41:11pm

re: #54 b_sharp

No shit.

Won't be when it's through with you...

59 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:41:14pm

re: #54 b_sharp

No shit.

Well, maybe a little...

60 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:42:42pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

Text "Sorry you spilled your chai latte" to 90999 to donate $1 to the victims of the U.S. East Coast earthquake.

Please, help those of us who have lost so much to this horrible disaster, like the high score on Halo Reach when we freaked out over our house shaking.

//

61 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:43:53pm

re: #60 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Please, help those of us who have lost so much to this horrible disaster, like the high score on Halo Reach when we freaked out over our house shaking.

//

Someone might have broken a nail!

62 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:45:23pm

re: #55 albusteve

I use no buttons, no avatars, no profiles...
I post...yet few people believe it...
and I dig sailing

[Video]

Yup.. You are a mystery man. Old school blogger.. I still haven't figured out how to mail you a CD of me playing Guitar. Isn't there some one here that knows you that I can mail it to that can get it to you? Don't worry I promise not to send you a pipe bomb..

63 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:45:32pm
64 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:45:59pm

This is news?

Coupon discrimination.

There really should not be a law.

I play the coupon game, but I can't see this being a case for *discrimination*.

65 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:46:43pm

re: #61 ggt

Someone might have broken a nail!

or a pencil.

66 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:46:58pm

re: #64 ggt

This is news?

Coupon discrimination.

There really should not be a law.

I play the coupon game, but I can't see this being a case for *discrimination*.

Having watched a few of those "Extreme Couponing" shows, all I can say is I wish I had that sort of time on my hands.

67 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:47:01pm

re: #62 HoosierHoops

Yup.. You are a mystery man. Old school blogger.. I still haven't figured out how to mail you a CD of me playing Guitar. Isn't there some one here that knows you that I can mail it to that can get it to you? Don't worry I promise not to send you a pipe bomb..

Save as image (.iso), compress with 7z, and email.

68 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:48:30pm

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Look at the devastation...

LOL.
I saw that earlier today.

69 danhenry1  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:48:40pm

Good stoof

70 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:48:47pm

re: #67 b_sharp

Save as image (.iso), compress with 7z, and email.

I don't have his email either...

71 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:48:50pm

The cool point is it's not the point of the pencil that matters here, it's the eraser feature. Nice!

72 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:48:57pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

Text "Sorry you spilled your chai latte" to 90999 to donate $1 to the victims of the U.S. East Coast earthquake.

Now see, that's funny.

Talked to my baby bro in Richmond. Outside of watching everything on his desk do the downtown boogaloo and having numerous books fly off the shelves, not much damage fifty miles from the epicenter.

We'll have to wait on the USGS to confirm this hypothesis, but given the depth and the location, it is looking to my geologist's eye likely that the rupture was actually in the granitic core of the Blue Ridge. Since that core runs from western Georgia to Maine, it would explain how huge the shake zone was.

73 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:49:24pm

re: #62 HoosierHoops

Yup.. You are a mystery man. Old school blogger.. I still haven't figured out how to mail you a CD of me playing Guitar. Isn't there some one here that knows you that I can mail it to that can get it to you? Don't worry I promise not to send you a pipe bomb..

pipe bombs don't worry me, but I do keep an eye out for my second wife...Reine has my addy and my permission to send it to you...I want to hear your playing, you might be a superstar and don't know it...it's happened before...I have stories

74 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:50:14pm

re: #73 albusteve

pipe bombs don't worry me, but I do keep an eye out for my second wife...Reine has my addy and my permission to send it to you...I want to hear your playing, you might be a superstar and don't know it...it's happened before...I have stories

okey-dokey, I'll send it on to him.

75 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:50:52pm

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Look at the devastation...

The Horror! The Horror!

Oh, the Humanity!

76 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:51:00pm

HOOPS - yahoo address is the one to use? I have two for you. If that's not correct, then e-mail me, wouldja please?

77 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:51:00pm

re: #74 reine.de.tout

okey-dokey, I'll send it on to him.

hoy hoy!

78 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:51:07pm

re: #72 austin_blue
That would make sense.

79 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:51:16pm

re: #68 reine.de.tout

LOL.
I saw that earlier today.

That pic is all over the internets and facebook...where I first saw it.

80 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:52:34pm

re: #75 austin_blue

The Horror! The Horror!

Oh, the Humanity!

Oh, the Humanity!

81 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:53:23pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

I don't have his email either...

Steveinthebunkhouse@gmail.com

82 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:53:26pm

re: #66 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Having watched a few of those "Extreme Couponing" shows, all I can say is I wish I had that sort of time on my hands.

Those shows are shit. The real couponers don't scam.

I work retail and have learned from my customers. It takes awhile to learn how to play, but after you learn it's easy and saves a lot of money.

83 jc717  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:54:06pm

Blue
No, Yellow. Aaaargghhh!

84 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:54:32pm

re: #82 ggt

Those shows are shit. The real couponers don't scam.

I work retail and have learned from my customers. It takes awhile to learn how to play, but after you learn it's easy and saves a lot of money.

Yeah, kinda what I always figure. Not many "reality shows" on TV these days that aren't either scripted or "reenactments."

85 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:54:43pm

re: #80 reine.de.tout

Oh, the Humanity!

[Video]

That's the lede!

86 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:55:31pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Steveinthebunkhouse@gmail.com

I forget how to do it...
Reine is so sweet to be my secretary...
I should offer her a corporate job...AlbuTowers and all that

87 danhenry1  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:55:53pm

Staff? Stuff? iPad bad?

88 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:55:59pm

re: #72 austin_blue

East Coast quakes (actually most quakes east of the Rockies) tend to have very large shake zones compared to California. Geologists think this has to do with the fracturing in CA compared to the rest of the US - and the fracturing manages to dissipate the energy.

But this has to be the video of the day: via Phil Plait:

It shows the quake wave move across the US according to very sensitive sensor arrays.

89 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:56:09pm

re: #86 albusteve

I forget how to do it...
Reine is so sweet to be my secretary...
I should offer her a corporate job...AlbuTowers and all that

Do you offer a dental and vision?

90 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:56:21pm

re: #79 darthstar

That pic is all over the internets and facebook...where I first saw it.

I saw it on twitter. All over, eh?
Amazing how fast things travel from one end of the country to the other.

91 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:56:58pm

Yay! Rev. Al Sharpton is getting Cenk Uyger's spot at MSNBC...I'm no big fan of Al Sharpton, but "chank" was designed for youtube and I don't know what the fuck they were thinking when they put him on the television...I guess it was Erick Erection envy with CNN.

92 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:57:21pm

re: #86 albusteve

I forget how to do it...
Reine is so sweet to be my secretary...
I should offer her a corporate job...AlbuTowers and all that

*ahem*
That would be "Administrative Aide". Or some such grandiose title.

93 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:57:27pm

re: #90 reine.de.tout

I saw it on twitter. All over, eh?
Amazing how fast things travel from one end of the country to the other.

and back!

94 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:57:52pm

re: #92 reine.de.tout

*ahem*
That would be "Administrative Aide". Or some such grandiose title.

I think a meeting in the mailroom is in order.

95 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:58:00pm

re: #92 reine.de.tout

*ahem*
That would be "Administrative Aide". Or some such grandiose title.

NO more aids, only assistants.

96 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:58:02pm

re: #73 albusteve

pipe bombs don't worry me, but I do keep an eye out for my second wife...Reine has my addy and my permission to send it to you...I want to hear your playing, you might be a superstar and don't know it...it's happened before...I have stories

Great..I'll get it to you..In my day I was ok..I do my own take on Clapton and blues cover songs...I learned how to play guitar listening to Canned Heat.. Every single note hour after hour till I got into a high school band and had to learn cover songs...So I know a bunch of songs...
When You hear me playing Clapton's presence of the Lord you will swear it's Henry playing his version of the song.. I copied his tone and style

97 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:58:15pm

re: #92 reine.de.tout

Executive assistant?
Right hand Lady?
General Fixer!

98 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:58:33pm

re: #97 Floral Giraffe

Executive assistant?
Right hand Lady?
General Fixer!

Goddess?

99 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:58:38pm

CNN's Sara Sidner Gets Grazed By Bullet During Live Report In Tripoli [Link: mediaite.com...]

100 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:58:52pm

re: #76 reine.de.tout

HOOPS - yahoo address is the one to use? I have two for you. If that's not correct, then e-mail me, wouldja please?

Hi Reine.. I only use my work email anymore.. Thank you so much

101 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:59:10pm

re: #98 ggt

No, we had one of those & she turned out not to be so nice.

102 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:59:21pm

re: #91 darthstar

Can't stand Rev. Al (and all the baggage he comes with). They must be figuring on the Howard Stern factor - people will watch/listen b/c they want to see what he's going to say next, and the people who hate him will listen in even more - to see what he's going to say next.

103 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:59:30pm

re: #101 Floral Giraffe

No, we had one of those & she turned out not to be so nice.

oh yeah.

I forget these things.

104 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 6:59:49pm

Okay...time to go get some noms. Off to the Village Pub to celebrate my sister in law's birthday.

105 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:00:02pm

re: #102 lawhawk

Can't stand Rev. Al (and all the baggage he comes with). They must be figuring on the Howard Stern factor - people will watch/listen b/c they want to see what he's going to say next, and the people who hate him will listen in even more - to see what he's going to say next.

Rev Al is a media whore, IMHO.

106 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:00:05pm

re: #93 darthstar

and back!

Actually I saw that photo a year or so ago, in reference to some bad Southern California storms. OMG, were gonna DIE!

107 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:00:52pm

It has been a long day for me. Good Night to my fellow Lizards. :)

108 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:01:14pm

I might seriously consider working for Steve if he offered a nail and pedicure plan.

You know, for when those earthquakes hit.

109 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:01:22pm

I love that pencil.

110 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:01:35pm

re: #88 lawhawk

East Coast quakes (actually most quakes east of the Rockies) tend to have very large shake zones compared to California. Geologists think this has to do with the fracturing in CA compared to the rest of the US - and the fracturing manages to dissipate the energy.

But this has to be the video of the day: via Phil Plait:

[Video]It shows the quake wave move across the US according to very sensitive sensor arrays.

Wow.
According to that there was some movement, very slight, but some movement along the Gulf Coast? I didn't feel anything. Why doesn't it show anything in the areas where the quake was felt? Am I not understanding how to look at this?

111 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:01:36pm

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

I love that pencil.

TMI

112 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:02:07pm

re: #91 darthstar

Yay! Rev. Al Sharpton is getting Cenk Uyger's spot at MSNBC...I'm no big fan of Al Sharpton, but "chank" was designed for youtube and I don't know what the fuck they were thinking when they put him on the television...I guess it was Erick Erection envy with CNN.

I was going to link to the video but it's some shitty proprietary format. The lefty idiots at MSNBC seem to think that surpassing the insanity of Glenn Beck is going to work out for them. Good luck with that.

113 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:02:21pm

re: #110 reine.de.tout

Wow.
According to that there was some movement, very slight, but some movement along the Gulf Coast? I didn't feel anything. Why doesn't it show anything in the areas where the quake was felt? Am I not understanding how to look at this?

I"m sure your Cat Overlord felt it --

and

WAS . NOT . PLEASED

Beware!

114 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:02:56pm

re: #98 ggt

Goddess?

Actually, just simply "Your Highness" would suffice.

115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:03:22pm

re: #91 darthstar

Yay! Rev. Al Sharpton is getting Cenk Uyger's spot at MSNBC...I'm no big fan of Al Sharpton, but "chank" was designed for youtube and I don't know what the fuck they were thinking when they put him on the television...I guess it was Erick Erection envy with CNN.

Rev. Al is showbiz. I do love the Two Minutes Hate reaction just his name alone causes in cons, though. I think it's hilarious.

116 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:03:47pm

re: #110 reine.de.tout

The movement being recorded was in microns:

What you’re seeing here are vertical displacement measurements from an array of detectors that are part of the USArray/EarthScope facility (you can read more about the array and the animation on the IRIS website). These are very sensitive instruments; note the scale on the lower graph showing the motion is only about 40 microns top-to-bottom! That’s less than the thickness of a human hair.

Red dots represent upward motion, and blue downward. The intensity of the color represents the amplitude (height) of the wave. Animations like this make it very easy to see the waves moving across the country; the arc even gives you a rough idea of where the epicenter was.

117 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:04:15pm

re: #96 HoosierHoops

Great..I'll get it to you..In my day I was ok..I do my own take on Clapton and blues cover songs...I learned how to play guitar listening to Canned Heat.. Every single note hour after hour till I got into a high school band and had to learn cover songs...So I know a bunch of songs...
When You hear me playing Clapton's presence of the Lord you will swear it's Henry playing his version of the song.. I copied his tone and style

I like guitars...don't know too much about them tho...
but something tells me this is good

118 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:04:27pm

re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Rev. Al is showbiz. I do love the Two Minutes Hate reaction just his name alone causes in cons, though. I think it's hilarious.

I think most theology majors have to be -- how else can they draw a crowd and fill the coffers?

119 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:04:27pm

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

I love that pencil.

And it is only available for your own post.. I was kind of hoping for a pencil on every post...I'm thinking Mayhem on certain lizards...
*wink*

120 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:04:58pm

re: #119 HoosierHoops

And it is only available for your own post.. I was kind of hoping for a pencil on every post...I'm thinking Mayhem on certain lizards...
*wink*

It does take the fun factor out of it.

121 Four More Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:05:24pm

Wait wait, how does this work?

Neato!

122 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:06:06pm

Do we have a list or page of the most hilarious typos? I think my best was fiends instead of friends...

123 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:07:15pm

re: #117 albusteve

I like guitars...don't know too much about them tho...
but something tells me this is good

[Video]

More than good.

124 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:07:41pm

re: #121 JasonA

Wait wait, how does this work?

Neato!

MAGNETS!

125 Mich-again  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:09:20pm

I don't want to sound like an alarmist but going back in time to edit a post could tear a hole in the time-space continuum so be careful.

126 Four More Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:10:05pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

I got the impression that she got hit by a spent shell, not grazed by a bullet. Am I wrong?

127 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:10:11pm

WE had some pretty nasty rain and thunder here in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland today.

One bolt of thunder caused my Cat Overlord to jump from my lap and bolt from the room.

He didn't come back and I haven't seen him since.

I'm thinking he decided to call a council meeting of the Cat Oversight Consortium.

Beaware!

128 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:10:20pm

re: #114 reine.de.tout

La Reine?
*bows*

129 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:10:34pm

re: #125 Mich-again

Don't worry. I'm the Doctor. /wait... wrong sci-fi series...

Don't worry. Don't Panic! /there, that's better....

130 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:10:38pm

Two minutes of POWER! So many times I could have used this. Thanks, Charles.
Do us drinkers still have an excuse?/

131 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:11:06pm

re: #100 HoosierHoops

Hi Reine.. I only use my work email anymore.. Thank you so much

Hoops, if you're comfortable with it, I'd like to hear your stuff too.

132 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:11:20pm

re: #125 Mich-again

I don't want to sound like an alarmist but going back in time to edit a post could tear a hole in the time-space continuum so be careful.

Naw, I checked-it-out with the Cat-In-Charge.

He said that because of the time constraints Charles imposed, it's all cool.

Cat Overlord likes Charles.

133 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:11:21pm

re: #113 ggt

I"m sure your Cat Overlord felt it --

and

WAS . NOT . PLEASED

Beware!

All 4 Cat Overlords and the dog, too. Plus the cat that hangs out.

134 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:11:30pm

re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Rev. Al is showbiz. I do love the Two Minutes Hate reaction just his name alone causes in cons, though. I think it's hilarious.

I recall a democratic debate that he took part in, I guess when he was running for president. He killed the debate. Anyone remember that?

135 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:12:47pm

re: #133 reine.de.tout

All 4 Cat Overlords and the dog, too. Plus the cat that hangs out.

oooh, you have a Diplomatic Cat as well?

136 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:12:54pm

re: #127 ggt

WE had some pretty nasty rain and thunder here in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland today.

One bolt of thunder caused my Cat Overlord to jump from my lap and bolt from the room.

He didn't come back and I haven't seen him since.

I'm thinking he decided to call a council meeting of the Cat Oversight Consortium.

Beaware!

Dry as a bone here.. I guess the news today said we officially had the hottest summer of all recorded time in Oklahoma...And the end is not in sight....
When we have thunder Winston runs under the covers in bed.. It's funny as heck...

137 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:13:41pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

CNN's Sara Sidner Gets Grazed By Bullet During Live Report In Tripoli [Link: mediaite.com...]

Actually an ejected shell casing.

But these women war correspondents have been amazing. If they were men, they would have to carry their balls around in wheelbarrows. It includes women from CNN, Sky, and Al Jaz. A remarkable body of work!

138 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:13:46pm

re: #136 HoosierHoops

Dry as a bone here.. I guess the news today said we officially had the hottest summer of all recorded time in Oklahoma...And the end is not in sight...
When we have thunder Winston runs under the covers in bed.. It's funny as heck...

It's his version of a towel.

As long as it works.

139 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:14:46pm

re: #131 b_sharp

Hoops, if you're comfortable with it, I'd like to hear your stuff too.

Cool..I'll burn you a CD...I love music...

140 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:15:16pm

My allergies suck today, I feel sick as a dog.

Took meds, took a nap and still feel like shit.

141 Four More Tears  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:15:50pm

re: #137 austin_blue

Actually an ejected shell casing.

But these women war correspondents have been amazing. If they were men, they would have to carry their balls around in wheelbarrows. It includes women from CNN, Sky, and Al Jaz. A remarkable body of work!

After the sexual assault that happened in Tahrir Square, yeah I'm pretty much in awe of these ladies.

142 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:15:51pm

re: #139 HoosierHoops

Cool..I'll burn you a CD...I love music...

Does Winston join in?

143 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:16:09pm

re: #137 austin_blue

Actually an ejected shell casing.

But these women war correspondents have been amazing. If they were men, they would have to carry their balls around in wheelbarrows. It includes women from CNN, Sky, and Al Jaz. A remarkable body of work!


And the one I hear daily, Lourdes Garcia Navarro (Lu Lu) from NPR. It's quite funny to hear Robert Siegel call her that while she's reporting with gunfire in the background.

144 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:16:53pm

re: #139 HoosierHoops

Cool..I'll burn you a CD...I love music...

Hoopster snow scapers
Hoopster key chains
Hoopster calenders
Hoopster bobble heads
think about it...and call my office

145 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:16:56pm

re: #139 HoosierHoops

Cool..I'll burn you a CD...I love music...

Looking forward to it.

Just email a zip file.

146 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:18:19pm

re: #135 ggt

oooh, you have a Diplomatic Cat as well?

Yes, as a matter of fact, he does indeed get along with everybody.
Whereas the 4 cats who are truly ours, do not always get along with each other.

147 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:18:47pm

I guess there was some damage from the quake.

Spires on a cathedral.

OMG! Terror as quake shakes the States.

Talk about yellow journalism.

148 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:19:38pm

re: #140 ggt

My allergies suck today, I feel sick as a dog.

Took meds, took a nap and still feel like shit.

I find if I take a nap during the day, I will be worthless the rest of the day. Better (for me anyhow) to suck it up and just get into bed a bit earlier than usual.

149 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:19:48pm

re: #140 ggt

My allergies suck today, I feel sick as a dog.

Took meds, took a nap and still feel like shit.

I went to Sheridan's for a smoothie and the brain freeze was horrific. Too much mucus in my sieni.

150 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:20:04pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

I recall a democratic debate that he took part in, I guess when he was running for president. He killed the debate. Anyone remember that?

Good kill, or bad kill? I do remember that.

There was one line he had that I thought was hilarious. Something to the extent that as the only person in the debate qualified to actually perform gay marriages, yes he would. That was before our newly-minted supposedly gay-friendly allies on the rightwing discovered no lighting bolts heaven on high would strike them down if they ever let themselves think a positive thing or two about gay couples. e_e

So now that it's legal in NY, I suppose we'll see, but tbh I don't doubt him on that much.

151 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:20:33pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Yes, as a matter of fact, he does indeed get along with everybody.
Whereas the 4 cats who are truly ours, do not always get along with each other.

Did you have to grant him immunity?

152 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:21:25pm

re: #148 reine.de.tout

I find if I take a nap during the day, I will be worthless the rest of the day. Better (for me anyhow) to suck it up and just get into bed a bit earlier than usual.

I have to have a nap. I wake-up ready to go.

But not today. Usually meds kick-in while I'm sleeping and all is good.

153 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:21:43pm

Aren't phonetic translations fun... No wonder they have trouble with no-fly lists. All these from one Google News topic listing.

Gadhafi says he retreated from besieged compound

Muammar al-Gaddafi »

LIBYA: Kadafi addresses nation Los Angeles Times

Gaddafi says withdrawal from Tripoli compound "tactical" Reuters

From Libya:'Real Moment of Victory for Libyans When Al Qathafi is Captured' Tripoli Post

In Depth:Qaddafi Eludes Rebels Who Seize Tripoli Compound Bloomberg

And I edit this to boot.

154 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:22:00pm

re: #140 ggt

My allergies suck today, I feel sick as a dog.

Took meds, took a nap and still feel like shit.

Come north to Canuckistan. We only have 4 months of the year things aren't covered in snow, so, unless you have a snow allergy your allergies will be short lived.

155 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:22:16pm

CAT is back. Acting very friendly.

I am afraid.

156 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:23:39pm

re: #154 b_sharp

Come north to Canuckistan. We only have 4 months of the year things aren't covered in snow, so, unless you have a snow allergy your allergies will be short lived.

no Mardi Gras?...
you suck

157 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:24:38pm

re: #156 albusteve

no Mardi Gras?...
you suck

I was thinking more like the South Side of Lake Superior. Hubby and I plan to retire there.

No snow allergies here.

158 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:24:39pm

re: #155 ggt

CAT is back. Acting very friendly.

I am afraid.

Ask where the mouse body is hidden.

159 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:24:58pm

BBIAM.
I need to go check the news about LSU's football team. Much drama.

160 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:25:27pm

if I were to flee America, Canada would be my almost last choice

161 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:25:35pm

re: #158 Naso Tang

Ask where the mouse body is hidden.

I don't want to know.

Probably in a wall somewhere.

162 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:26:19pm

re: #156 albusteve

no Mardi Gras?...
you suck

We do have Canadian whisky. Lots of it.

163 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:26:52pm

re: #160 albusteve

if I were to flee America, Canada would be my almost last choice

And there ya go - winning friends!

I think I'd love to visit Canada. But I do like living where I live, even if the weather is impossible to deal with for 4 months every year.

164 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:27:13pm

re: #157 ggt

I was thinking more like the South Side of Lake Superior. Hubby and I plan to retire there.

No snow allergies here.

colder than a witches tit, Superior is

165 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:28:23pm

re: #164 albusteve

colder than a witches tit, Superior is

How do you know how cold a witches tit is?

166 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:29:10pm

re: #118 ggt

Having dated a few seminarians (and being raised by two), I hafta disagree. Most theology types I've known are quite reserved, if not repressed; monastic sorts. But yeah, in America, we've definitely wedded showbiz to religion like no other place. Lol we export it too.

BTW I did end up putting up that post I was working on, about all those bus tours - kept forgetting to tell you about it. A shorter version is at The People's View: [Link: www.thepeoplesview.net...]

167 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:29:11pm

re: #163 reine.de.tout

And there ya go - winning friends!

I think I'd love to visit Canada. But I do like living where I live, even if the weather is impossible to deal with for 4 months every year.

I'd gladly die in NOLA....toss my ashes in Jack Park or the river

168 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:29:29pm

re: #165 ggt

How do you know how cold a witches tit is?

He's a warlock. Don't you know?

169 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:29:55pm

re: #164 albusteve

colder than a witches tit

In a brass bra.

170 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:30:37pm

re: #165 ggt

How do you know how cold a witches tit is?

my dad told me...Charlie never lied...he saw the elephant

171 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:31:16pm

re: #153 Naso Tang

Heh, I started using Khadafi years ago - and that's the spelling I'm going with. It's not the most common one used (I think that's Qaddafi) but the end result is the same - we're talking about a despot whose willing to let his country burn and for the body count to keep rising all so he can maintain a grip on power.

172 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:31:22pm

re: #169 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

In a brass bra.

No, that's balls on a brass monkey.

173 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:31:48pm

re: #154 b_sharp

Come north to Canuckistan. We only have 4 months of the year things aren't covered in snow, so, unless you have a snow allergy your allergies will be short lived.

My allergies are sucking right now in Oklahoma..It is horrible here...You know it takes a lot to effect me.. Hell when I was a kid in Napa we had mustard trees and it would kill you..I got over it by 14.. Indiana was a joke..A summer in San Diego was nothing...
Until this summer..It is horrible.. I wake up sneezing like 20 times to start..I'm sneezing all day.. I had a sneezing fit a while ago.. IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF...I've tried different drugs over the counter..What a joke..
I don't get it..If I was an Indian here in Indian country a hundred years ago I'd be out of here.. The storms are bad..The weather is extremes..It is hotter than hell and there are ice storms in the winter. Tornadoes in the spring.. What the hell were those guys thinking?

174 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:32:08pm

re: #163 reine.de.tout

And there ya go - winning friends!

I think I'd love to visit Canada. But I do like living where I live, even if the weather is impossible to deal with for 4 months every year.

Come on up to central Canada. The summers here are dry and warm (25C -35C). We have lots of fresh water lakes, forests and valleys. We even have a bit of a desert and some badlands.

175 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:32:21pm

re: #172 Naso Tang

No, that's balls on a brass monkey.

Colder'n a tin outhouse in December.

176 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:32:58pm

re: #165 ggt

How do you know how cold a witches tit is?

Don't ask about his ex wife.

177 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:34:16pm

re: #174 b_sharp

Come on up to central Canada. The summers here are dry and warm (25C -35C). We have lots of fresh water lakes, forests and valleys. We even have a bit of a desert and some badlands.

I will do it one day.
Next trip I take, I want to go to western US, and drive at least a portion of the Pacific Coast Hwy before we come home. I want to take 2 or 3 weeks and just drive, stopping when we want or if we see something interesting; no timetable.

178 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:34:33pm

re: #175 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Colder'n a tin outhouse in December.

...with a solid plastic seat.

179 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:34:38pm

re: #173 HoosierHoops

I don't get it..If I was an Indian here in Indian country a hundred years ago I'd be out of here.. The storms are bad..The weather is extremes..It is hotter than hell and there are ice storms in the winter. Tornadoes in the spring.. What the hell were those guys thinking?

Probably along the lines of, welp, can't go back east...too many smallpox blankets over there. /

180 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:35:07pm

re: #173 HoosierHoops

My allergies are sucking right now in Oklahoma..It is horrible here...You know it takes a lot to effect me.. Hell when I was a kid in Napa we had mustard trees and it would kill you..I got over it by 14.. Indiana was a joke..A summer in San Diego was nothing...
Until this summer..It is horrible.. I wake up sneezing like 20 times to start..I'm sneezing all day.. I had a sneezing fit a while ago.. IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF...I've tried different drugs over the counter..What a joke..
I don't get it..If I was an Indian here in Indian country a hundred years ago I'd be out of here.. The storms are bad..The weather is extremes..It is hotter than hell and there are ice storms in the winter. Tornadoes in the spring.. What the hell were those guys thinking?

Many aboriginal tribes were nomadic. They knew where to be in any given season.

181 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:35:31pm

re: #166 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Having dated a few seminiarians (and being raised by two), I hafta disagree. Most theology types I've known are quite reserved, if not repressed; monastic sorts. But yeah, in America, we've definitely wedded showbiz to religion like no other place. Lol we export it too.

BTW I did end up putting up that post I was working on, about all those bus tours - kept forgetting to tell you about it. A shorter version is at The People's View: [Link: www.thepeoplesview.net...]

Thank you, I enjoyed reading that.

182 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:35:49pm

re: #172 Naso Tang

No, that's balls on a brass monkey.

Actually, anyone know, or want to know, where that funny phrase supposedly comes from?

Oh, I forgot; everyone has google.

183 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:36:18pm

re: #180 b_sharp

duh, that's a big help

184 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:36:35pm
TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) – A TV channel is quoting Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi as saying he retreated from his Tripoli compound in a "tactical move" after 64 NATO airstrikes turned it to rubble.

"Y'ain't whoopin' my ass see, I chose to retreat. I'm all about tactics 'n shit over here, y'hear? Got you suckers right where I want you."

185 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:37:01pm

re: #177 reine.de.tout

I will do it one day.
Next trip I take, I want to go to western US, and drive at least a portion of the Pacific Coast Hwy before we come home. I want to take 2 or 3 weeks and just drive, stopping when we want or if we see something interesting; no timetable.

Within the next couple of years we're going to load up the RV and visit as many ghost towns as we can find.

186 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:37:32pm

re: #185 b_sharp

Within the next couple of years we're going to load up the RV and visit as many ghost towns as we can find.

visiting family?

187 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:37:46pm

re: #185 b_sharp

Within the next couple of years we're going to load up the RV and visit as many ghost towns as we can find.

no shit?...call me

188 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:38:31pm

re: #187 albusteve

no shit?...call me

You live with b_sharps family?

189 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:39:53pm

re: #186 ggt

visiting family?

we are gratefully dead

190 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:40:26pm

re: #188 ggt

You live with b_sharps family?

no, but I know a few ghosts

191 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:40:29pm

re: #110 reine.de.tout

Wow.
According to that there was some movement, very slight, but some movement along the Gulf Coast? I didn't feel anything. Why doesn't it show anything in the areas where the quake was felt? Am I not understanding how to look at this?

It's a matter of where the sensor array is placed. Those sensors have a sensitivity of 22 millionths of a meter, or about 900 millionths of an inch (rounding, 1/1000th of an inch) basically two orders of magnitude below what any human could possibly feel. So while the sensors are going off like strobe lights, it's highly unlikely to be felt by anyone living over the plastic soils of Baton Rouge. Or Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, &c.

It *does* give credence, however, to the hypothesis that the rupture was within the granitic core of the Blue Ridge, as opposed to a growth or other fault in the soils/rock of the Piedmont. If it was in rock to the east of the Blue Ridge, the granitic core would have absorbed it. Since the sensors indicated a radiating shock wave to the west, it is indicative of a rupture in the granite core itself, which would propagate both east and west.

In addition, since the core of the Appalachians is a contiguous granite mass from Georgia to Maine, it would have caused the entire pluton to ring like a bell, causing shock waves along that SW->NE axis to radiate east and west and be felt from Atlanta to Toronto. Which, for a classically trained structural geologist (Yo!), is absolutely wicked cool.

By the way, if there is a 5.8 in LA, you don't feel it in Portland. The west has been so faulted and shattered for so long that fault blocks don't have that transmission capability. No connectivity of relatively incompressible rock facies.

Sorry to go tangential to the thread, but like Faber College, I believe that Knowledge Is Good.

192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:40:51pm

re: #185 b_sharp

Within the next couple of years we're going to load up the RV and visit as many ghost towns as we can find.

Sounds fun. I'd do it.

193 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:41:07pm

re: #185 b_sharp

Within the next couple of years we're going to load up the RV and visit as many ghost towns as we can find.

I always wanted to ask if this has anything to do with you.

194 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:41:47pm

re: #192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Sounds fun. I'd do it.

I lived thru enough family vacations in RV's.

NEVER . AGAIN

195 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:42:21pm

re: #191 austin_blue

It's a matter of where the sensor array is placed. Those sensors have a sensitivity of 22 millionths of a meter, or about 900 millionths of an inch (rounding, 1/1000th of an inch) basically two orders of magnitude below what any human could possibly feel. So while the sensors are going off like strobe lights, it's highly unlikely to be felt by anyone living over the plastic soils of Baton Rouge. Or Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, &c.

It *does* give credence, however, to the hypothesis that the rupture was within the granitic core of the Blue Ridge, as opposed to a growth or other fault in the soils/rock of the Piedmont. If it was in rock to the east of the Blue Ridge, the granitic core would have absorbed it. Since the sensors indicated a radiating shock wave to the west, it is indicative of a rupture in the granite core itself, which would propagate both east and west.

In addition, since the core of the Appalachians is a contiguous granite mass from Georgia to Maine, it would have caused the entire pluton to ring like a bell, causing shock waves along that SW->NE axis to radiate east and west and be felt from Atlanta to Toronto. Which, for a classically trained structural geologist (Yo!), is absolutely wicked cool.

By the way, if there is a 5.8 in LA, you don't feel it in Portland. The west has been so faulted and shattered for so long that fault blocks don't have that transmission capability. No connectivity of relatively incompressible rock facies.

Sorry to go tangential to the thread, but like Faber College, I believe that Knowledge Is Good.

Thanks for the info! I could actually understand it.

And of course the Roi did point out to me that we live, essentially, on top of mush so it would be unlikely that we would feel much of anything at all.

196 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:42:22pm

re: #177 reine.de.tout

I will do it one day.
Next trip I take, I want to go to western US, and drive at least a portion of the Pacific Coast Hwy before we come home. I want to take 2 or 3 weeks and just drive, stopping when we want or if we see something interesting; no timetable.

Have you driven it before? It's lovely. Really amazing country.

197 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:42:50pm

re: #186 ggt

visiting family?

We'd visit my wife's ancestors, but most of the known sites are protected archaeological digs.

I'd also like to visit old abandoned graveyards, but I'm not sure the wife would want to.

198 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:43:11pm

Well folks, got some bad news if you were planning to visit Washington D.C. in the near future:

Washington Monument top cracked by earthquake

WASHINGTON (AP) — The National Park Service says engineers have found a crack near the top of the Washington Monument presumably caused by a magnitude-5.8 earthquake that shook the East Coast.

Park service spokesman Bill Line said Tuesday night that structural engineers found the crack where the 555-foot landmark narrows considerably.

He says the monument will be closed indefinitely to keep the public safe.

An outside engineering service will study the crack on Wednesday.

The 91,000-ton monument is made of Maryland marble.

199 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:43:20pm

re: #185 b_sharp

Within the next couple of years we're going to load up the RV and visit as many ghost towns as we can find.

Many years ago, before kids (cat only), we bought a 28ft Winnebago and drove from Key West to LA to Seattle to Vancouver Island, to Minnesota, where we stopped for R&R, job, and kids. Took about 4 months.

The state parks cost $5 per night and Yellowstone was almost empty. Took the season's first mule ride down the canyon....and much more.

Those were the days.

200 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:43:23pm

re: #191 austin_blue

So, what do you think of the New Madrid Fault line.

Should we buy earthquake insurance in Chicagoland?

201 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:44:04pm

re: #194 ggt

I lived thru enough family vacations in RV's.

NEVER . AGAIN

the insolent teen...
where is the pool?
where is the service?
where are the boyz?

202 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:45:06pm

re: #199 Naso Tang

Many years ago, before kids (cat only), we bought a 28ft Winnebago and drove from Key West to LA to Seattle to Vancouver Island, to Minnesota, where we stopped for R&R, job, and kids. Took about 4 months.

The state parks cost $5 per night and Yellowstone was almost empty. Took the season's first mule ride down the canyon...and much more.

Those were the days.

We did the Midwest to the Painted Desert to Yellowstone to Mount Rushmore and back in two weeks.

It was pure hell.

203 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:45:06pm

re: #197 b_sharp

We'd visit my wife's ancestors, but most of the known sites are protected archaeological digs.

I'd also like to visit old abandoned graveyards, but I'm not sure the wife would want to.

Here's a web site for you b.......

[Link: ghosttowns.com...]

204 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:45:09pm

re: #194 ggt

I lived thru enough family vacations in RV's.

NEVER . AGAIN

My parents were driving people -- loved to take road trips, cross country, up/down the coast, Vegas, Denver, Poconos, etc. They were boring as eff as a kid, but even at the time I thought, there were worse things.

205 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:45:09pm

re: #180 b_sharp

Many aboriginal tribes were nomadic. They knew where to be in any given season.

Yea..Just like dances with wolves...:)
I complain about Oklahoma ( my boss probably sent me to Tornado country to knock me off LOL ) Kidding
But I really have been impressed.. There are so many Indian Nations here..You learn so much about the locals..I have learned so much about the different nations here.. It is so cool.. A once in a lifetime experience..
There are always ads on local TV educating people about the different tribes.. There is a lotta of talent here and so much history...

206 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:46:10pm

I've had a few motor homes and a few teenagers...
whoop!

207 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:46:12pm

re: #200 ggt

So, what do you think of the New Madrid Fault line.

Should we buy earthquake insurance in Chicagoland?

Since it's really expensive I'd say no.

208 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:46:25pm

re: #204 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

My parents were driving people -- loved to take road trips, cross country, up/down the coast, Vegas, Denver, Poconos, etc. They were boring as eff as a kid, but even at the time I thought, there were worse things.

My parents usually drove everywhere too and mostly I didn't mind. For some reason the trips in an RV always sucked. Something broke down or whatever.

209 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:46:25pm

re: #157 ggt

I was thinking more like the South Side of Lake Superior. Hubby and I plan to retire there.

No snow allergies here.

I lived in Marquette when I was in the Air Force. We had five seasons! Early winter, winter, late winter, the Fourth of July weekend, and deer.

210 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:46:58pm

re: #193 ggt

I always wanted to ask if this has anything to do with you.

A little bit. The wife is a diabetic taking insulin so she has to get rid of several needles from her pens each day.

211 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:46:59pm

re: #207 Mr Pancakes

Since it's really expensive I'd say no.

Are you a trained geologist?

212 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:47:18pm

re: #199 Naso Tang

The state parks cost $5 per night and Yellowstone was almost empty. Took the season's first mule ride down the canyon...and much more.

I've got a great old photo of my father and grandfather taking that mule ride in 1930.

213 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:47:20pm

re: #204 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

My parents were driving people -- loved to take road trips, cross country, up/down the coast, Vegas, Denver, Poconos, etc. They were boring as eff as a kid, but even at the time I thought, there were worse things.

is there more to life?

214 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:47:22pm

re: #202 ggt

We did the Midwest to the Painted Desert to Yellowstone to Mount Rushmore and back in two weeks.

It was pure hell.

We never did more than 300 miles, at most, in a day and never figured where we might stop until after lunch.

Heaven.

215 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:48:01pm

re: #194 ggt

I lived thru enough family vacations in RV's.

NEVER . AGAIN

The other option is a tent. An RV is a more comfortable place to sleep when you're in a ghost town.

216 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:48:19pm

re: #211 ggt

Are you a trained geologist?

In that Chicago isn't known for earthquakes looking at history I'd say yes!

217 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:48:31pm

re: #212 jaunte

I've got a great old photo of my father and grandfather taking that mule ride in 1930.

I gotta a picture of my great-granddad on a mule with a plow.

218 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:48:38pm

re: #213 albusteve

is there more to life?

There is, though you're not the first to ask.

219 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:48:51pm

re: #196 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Have you driven it before? It's lovely. Really amazing country.

No, never.
Last year we took a trip through Tenn, KY, West Va (there is NOTHING in West Va, NOTHING!!!!), back down through Va, N Carolina, etc.
No timetable, we just drove, visited a few relatives, drove the BlueRidge Parkway - I just loved it.

So my next trip I want to go westward. I have a brother in Vancouver WA. And I'd like to see the Grand Canyon. And the Pacific Coast Hwy. And San Francisco. And whatever in-between is interesting.

220 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:49:19pm

re: #219 reine.de.tout

No, never.
Last year we took a trip through Tenn, KY, West Va (there is NOTHING in West Va, NOTHING!!!), back down through Va, N Carolina, etc.
No timetable, we just drove, visited a few relatives, drove the BlueRidge Parkway - I just loved it.

So my next trip I want to go westward. I have a brother in Vancouver WA. And I'd like to see the Grand Canyon. And the Pacific Coast Hwy. And San Francisco. And whatever in-between is interesting.

That makes my back hurt just reading it.

221 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:50:00pm

re: #217 ggt

I gotta a picture of my great-granddad on a mule with a plow.

Oh man...... I could do something with that post but I won't. I'd have to get out the pencil.

222 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:50:33pm

re: #221 Mr Pancakes

Oh man... I could do something with that post but I won't. I'd have to get out the pencil.

NOT THE PENCIL

Anything, but the pencil.

223 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:50:52pm

Friday night.. Colts Vs. Packers...Tivo Time...
How valuable is one football player? There are 22 on the field at a time..
When Peyton Manning doesn't play..There probably isn't a team that can't kick the Colts ass..We are just average.. When Peyton Plays there are few if any teams in the NFL that can win against us.. It's a fact...
That is a true MVP...

224 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:50:56pm

re: #197 b_sharp

We'd visit my wife's ancestors, but most of the known sites are protected archaeological digs.

I'd also like to visit old abandoned graveyards, but I'm not sure the wife would want to.

I love to make short visits to old graveyards! I remember walking through a few in New Orleans with my grandmother, when I'd go visit. Always interesting.

225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:51:36pm

re: #219 reine.de.tout

No, never.
Last year we took a trip through Tenn, KY, West Va (there is NOTHING in West Va, NOTHING!!!), back down through Va, N Carolina, etc.
No timetable, we just drove, visited a few relatives, drove the BlueRidge Parkway - I just loved it.

So my next trip I want to go westward. I have a brother in Vancouver WA. And I'd like to see the Grand Canyon. And the Pacific Coast Hwy. And San Francisco. And whatever in-between is interesting.

One road trip we used to take was up (down, from where I now sit) to San Simeon/Hearst Castle.

[Link: www.hearstcastle.org...]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Recommended!

226 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:52:00pm

re: #223 HoosierHoops

Friday night.. Colts Vs. Packers...Tivo Time...
How valuable is one football player? There are 22 on the field at a time..
When Peyton Manning doesn't play..There probably isn't a team that can't kick the Colts ass..We are just average.. When Peyton Plays there are few if any teams in the NFL that can win against us.. It's a fact...
That is a true MVP...

Except the Chargers in critical games. (ducking)

227 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:52:13pm

re: #220 ggt

That makes my back hurt just reading it.

Aw, sorry!

228 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:52:13pm

re: #225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

One road trip we used to take was up (down, from where I now sit) to San Simeon/Hearst Castle.

[Link: www.hearstcastle.org...]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Recommended!

I wanna castle!

229 Achilles Tang  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:52:36pm

re: #212 jaunte

I've got a great old photo of my father and grandfather taking that mule ride in 1930.

I lost all my photos in Kuwait in 1990, but what I remember most was that the mules were feisty, having been in the barn all winter. There was snow on top and ice on the 3ft wide path (which looked like 1ft from where I was sitting), and I almost had cramps after the first half of the ride because of tensed muscles.

But I remember it vividly, and fondly.

230 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:52:38pm

re: #219 reine.de.tout

No, never.
Last year we took a trip through Tenn, KY, West Va (there is NOTHING in West Va, NOTHING!!!), back down through Va, N Carolina, etc.
No timetable, we just drove, visited a few relatives, drove the BlueRidge Parkway - I just loved it.

So my next trip I want to go westward. I have a brother in Vancouver WA. And I'd like to see the Grand Canyon. And the Pacific Coast Hwy. And San Francisco. And whatever in-between is interesting.

the West will knock you out

231 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:53:20pm

re: #225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

One road trip we used to take was up (down, from where I now sit) to San Simeon/Hearst Castle.

[Link: www.hearstcastle.org...]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Recommended!

I need to put that on my list.

Visited Biltmore a few years ago. This looks just as grand (or more!).

232 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:53:32pm

re: #226 Mr Pancakes

Except the Chargers in critical games. (ducking)

2 years in a row..
You cut me Pancake.. You cut me

233 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:53:36pm

re: #228 ggt

I wanna castle!

Hearst Castle is off the chain. Hearst was...somethin' else.

234 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:53:49pm

re: #230 albusteve

the West will knock you out

I will expect lunch, at least, ya know.
And check your emails.

235 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:54:23pm

Playing Words With Friends with the hubby.

Haven't scored less than 25 in the last 4 plays.

heh, heh, heh

236 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:55:11pm

re: #234 reine.de.tout

I will expect lunch, at least, ya know.
And check your emails.

237 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:55:48pm

re: #236 albusteve

heh...I'm always good for a taco!

238 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:56:19pm

re: #231 reine.de.tout

I need to put that on my list.

Visited Biltmore a few years ago. This looks just as grand (or more!).

I need to go to the Biltmore. Hearst Castle is huge - there used to be 5 different tours, each a day long. Looks like it's down to three, but yeah. Lots of good history there. The CA coast is pretty breathtaking.

239 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:56:29pm

re: #237 albusteve

heh...I'm always good for a taco!

How bout a warm torta?

240 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:56:39pm

re: #237 albusteve

heh...I'm always good for a taco!

I like Tacos!
And of course I travel with Tony's.
And Community.

241 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:56:48pm

re: #231 reine.de.tout

Hearst Castle is amazing, and there are Elephant Seals that nest very nearby. Really neat creatures! And, Jade cove is somewhere south, on PCH, you can find your own bits of jade!

242 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:56:53pm

re: #224 reine.de.tout

I love to make short visits to old graveyards! I remember walking through a few in New Orleans with my grandmother, when I'd go visit. Always interesting.

One of my regrets about the trip to Louisiana is that I didn't get an afternoon to check out the Jewish cemetery in Bastrop.

The other is that we didn't get a hotel room.

243 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:56:55pm

re: #234 reine.de.tout

I will expect lunch, at least, ya know.
And check your emails.

You need to visit Napa Valley..There is so much to do..And there is nothing to compare it too.. The best of everything..Food, Wine, Scenery,
You would will love it...

244 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:56:58pm

Evening, all.

245 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:57:03pm

re: #229 Naso Tang

I backpacked that trail with some friends in college, and didn't make it down to the river until after dark. We stumbled over a faucet sticking out of the ground somewhere on the Phantom Ranch grounds, had a long drink, and slept in the dirt. The next morning we woke up to find the family that had rented the nearby cabin sitting on the porch having coffee and wondering who the bums in the front yard were.

246 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:57:31pm

re: #243 HoosierHoops

You need to visit Napa Valley..There is so much to do..And there is nothing to compare it too.. The best of everything..Food, Wine, Scenery,
You would will love it...

I loved it when they didn't charge for wine tasting.

247 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:57:55pm

I enjoyed Casa Loma in Toronto.

Not a Castle, but a Grand House! With Grander Stables.

Part of X-men (and a lot of other things) were filmed there. Like all of Toronto.

248 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:58:03pm

re: #203 Mr Pancakes

Here's a web site for you b...

[Link: ghosttowns.com...]

Thanks Mr. P.

That will come in quite handy.

249 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 7:58:52pm

re: #243 HoosierHoops

You need to visit Napa Valley..There is so much to do..And there is nothing to compare it too.. The best of everything..Food, Wine, Scenery,
You would will love it...


Sure I could do the whole edit feature.. But I know you guys..You aren't reloading the page for the Hoopster...

250 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:00:03pm

re: #246 Mr Pancakes

I loved it when they didn't charge for wine tasting.

I did Sonoma, got real drunk, IIRC, for free.

251 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:01:24pm

re: #225 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

One road trip we used to take was up (down, from where I now sit) to San Simeon/Hearst Castle.

[Link: www.hearstcastle.org...]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Recommended!

I've read a lot of biographies on Hearst, Marion Davies, and the entertaining they did.

252 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:01:59pm

re: #177 reine.de.tout

I will do it one day.
Next trip I take, I want to go to western US, and drive at least a portion of the Pacific Coast Hwy before we come home. I want to take 2 or 3 weeks and just drive, stopping when we want or if we see something interesting; no timetable.

Love to show you Big Sur and environs...

253 albusteve  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:02:30pm

re: #250 ggt

I did Sonoma, got real drunk, IIRC, for free.

what do you know about the weather?

254 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:03:25pm

re: #253 albusteve

what do you know about the weather?

Only what Glenn Beck tells me.

:0

255 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:03:54pm

re: #224 reine.de.tout

I love to make short visits to old graveyards! I remember walking through a few in New Orleans with my grandmother, when I'd go visit. Always interesting.

Up here they're small and usually hidden. You have to ask locals where they are and then when you find them you need to brush away weeds to read the head stones.

We've run across a few while just driving around the countryside.

256 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:04:20pm

re: #238 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I need to go to the Biltmore. Hearst Castle is huge - there used to be 5 different tours, each a day long. Looks like it's down to three, but yeah. Lots of good history there. The CA coast is pretty breathtaking.

The Biltmore is cool. I wanted to let the tour go ahead and hide out in the library, looking it over.
The very, very early electrical system in the basement had a hilarious warning. In case of electric shock, you were supposed to put a rubber plug in the affected person's anus! I am not kidding.

257 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:04:36pm

re: #228 ggt

I wanna castle!

Are you my wife?

258 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:05:18pm

re: #257 b_sharp

Are you my wife?

I can't throw a refrigerator.

259 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:06:46pm

re: #256 prairiefire

The Biltmore is cool. I wanted to let the tour go ahead and hide out in the library, looking it over.
The very, very early electrical system in the basement had a hilarious warning. In case of electric shock, you were supposed to put a rubber plug in the affected person's anus! I am not kidding.

Gay electrician?

/

260 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:07:02pm

HAH

*droid* is a word in Words With Friends.

Triple -42 points.

261 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:07:12pm

re: #251 prairiefire

I've read a lot of biographies on Hearst, Marion Davies, and the entertaining they did.

I actually like Marion Davies' movies. She was kind of interesting.

262 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:08:00pm

re: #246 Mr Pancakes

I loved it when they didn't charge for wine tasting.

We never paid for a buzz growing up.. If you were a poor kid you just jumped in your car and did wine tasting.. esp. in College...We had buds that poured at the Wineries...So all us in the valley never paid for wine..
When we were in College we drove the back roads around Yountville with a pickup truck full of 55 gallon barrels and stole grapes all night and made hundreds of gallons of wine for parties at the dorm..I mean we were laughing so much by the moonlight cutting grapes I don't know how we didn't get in trouble.. It was so much fun..Us sitting around trying to figure out who we knew in school that knew how to make good wine...We found a wine geek...Fun times

263 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:08:26pm

re: #256 prairiefire

The Biltmore is cool. I wanted to let the tour go ahead and hide out in the library, looking it over.
The very, very early electrical system in the basement had a hilarious warning. In case of electric shock, you were supposed to put a rubber plug in the affected person's anus! I am not kidding.

Rotfl!

264 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:09:01pm

'Night friends.

265 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:10:11pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

Gay electrician?

/

Rubber doesn't not conduct electricity.

What a plug in the anus has to do with keeping the current from reaching ground is beyond my pay grade.

266 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:10:22pm

re: #256 prairiefire

In case of electric shock, you were supposed to put a rubber plug in the affected person's anus! I am not kidding.

Hmmmmm To the affected person: "I have good news and bad news. The good news is all I have to do is stick this in your butthole and you'll be fine.... the bad news is, you're going to die."

267 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:12:09pm

I'd actually be quite happy with this castle.

268 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:13:52pm

How cool is this?

The library is done in a sea motif. Over the fireplace stands Captain Kidd with his treasure behind him. The door to the right shows Robinson Crusoe and his man Friday. Above the other door is Gulliver, pulling the Lilliputian ships through the gates of the city. The furniture has a sea motif and is verdigris copper. Sea horses and sea snails hold the shell-like furniture. This furniture is made for fairy folk who like to read in different positions. That chair turned up in front is made for a little elf who likes to read with his feet in the air. The books in the library are all real. There are more than 100; many of them are handwritten by some very prominent authors.

On the reading stand is a dictionary. This was given to Colleen Moore by her father when she was only 5 years old, and it began her whole miniature collection.

269 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:15:30pm

Obama's closely matched against the leading Republicans.

PRINCETON, NJ -- President Barack Obama is closely matched against each of four possible Republican opponents when registered voters are asked whom they would support if the 2012 presidential election were held today. Mitt Romney leads Obama by two percentage points, 48% to 46%, Rick Perry and Obama are tied at 47%, and Obama edges out Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann by two and four points, respectively.

These prospective election ballots -- measured Aug. 17-18, well over a year before the Nov. 6, 2012, election -- indicate that the race for president at this point is generally competitive, with voters fairly evenly divided in their preference for giving Obama a second term or electing a Republican candidate. Even though the four Republican candidates tested have varying degrees of name recognition, they all fare roughly the same.

Gallup's generic presidential ballot -- measured six times this year -- shows a close race between Obama and a generic "Republican presidential candidate," although there have been survey-to-survey variations on this measure, with the Republican candidate leading in June and July.

President Obama's job approval rating is hovering around the 40% mark. This is below the rating that any of the six incumbent presidents re-elected since Eisenhower has had at the time of the presidential election. However, in August of the year before they were re-elected, Ronald Reagan (43%) and Bill Clinton (46%) were both below 50%. Obama's position of rough parity against leading GOP candidates shows that more Americans at the moment say they would vote for Obama than approve of the job he is doing -- perhaps a reflection of the continuing lack of a strong front-runner on the Republican side.

270 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:16:26pm

re: #262 HoosierHoops

We never paid for a buzz growing up.. If you were a poor kid you just jumped in your car and did wine tasting.. esp. in College...We had buds that poured at the Wineries...So all us in the valley never paid for wine..
When we were in College we drove the back roads around Yountville with a pickup truck full of 55 gallon barrels and stole grapes all night and made hundreds of gallons of wine for parties at the dorm..I mean we were laughing so much by the moonlight cutting grapes I don't know how we didn't get in trouble.. It was so much fun..Us sitting around trying to figure out who we knew in school that knew how to make good wine...We found a wine geek...Fun times

I live in avocado country....... stolen wine sounds better than stolen guacamole.

271 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:17:00pm

re: #267 ggt

I'd actually be quite happy with this castle.

I have toured that little castle many, many times. I can remember the feel of the heavy old fashioned phones to hear the descriptions of the rooms.

272 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:17:28pm

re: #238 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I need to go to the Biltmore. Hearst Castle is huge - there used to be 5 different tours, each a day long. Looks like it's down to three, but yeah. Lots of good history there. The CA coast is pretty breathtaking.

Biltmore is stunning. I expected big, but when we approached it, I couldn't believe my eyes at how huge it is. And the view, oh - the view! Just amazing.

But yes, the CA coast is one of my "must see" locations.

273 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:18:35pm

re: #271 prairiefire

I have toured that little castle many, many times. I can remember the feel of the heavy old fashioned phones to hear the descriptions of the rooms.

I've been to this castle many times.

[Link: rds.yahoo.com...]

274 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:18:38pm

re: #252 Rightwingconspirator

Love to show you Big Sur and environs...

Of course!

275 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:19:14pm

re: #200 ggt

So, what do you think of the New Madrid Fault line.

Should we buy earthquake insurance in Chicagoland?

Nope. As useless as buying asteroid insurance. If you drill down deep enough in Chicagoland, you will hit granite associated with the Canadian Shield continental craton, which extends south to Oklahoma and Missouri. It's *really* old, like 3.4 billion years (Oops, excuse me, 6,000 years.). to the south of the craton is a *huge* wedge of sedimentary rock, formed between the Shield and the core of the Appalachian uplift, which runs from eastern Mexico (Sierra Madre Occidental), through Texas (Llano uplift), SE Oklahoma (Ardmore and the Ouachitas), Arkansas/Missouri (Ozarks), then dives under the Mississippi river sediments before popping up to the surface near Birmingham, then heading up through NW georgia to join the Blue Ridge granitic core all the way through the maritimes of Canada to Ireland and Scotland. These granites are +/- 1 billion years old (Oops, 6,000 years. My bad!) and were introduced when Rodinia formed.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The New Madrid fault is a discontinuity between these ancient granitic bodies. The mechanism is not at all clearly understood. While locally devastating, It does not appear to have more than regional affects.

276 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:19:24pm

I have to go to sleep.

I feel like shit and have a lot to do tomorrow.

Have a great evening all and don't break the pencil.

277 bratwurst  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:19:37pm

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

Obama's closely matched against the leading Republicans.

Obama's position of rough parity against leading GOP candidates shows that more Americans at the moment say they would vote for Obama than approve of the job he is doing -- perhaps a reflection of the continuing lack of a strong front-runner on the Republican side.

Bingo. The fact that he is on equal footing with ANYONE at this point is a horrible sign for the GOP.

278 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:20:20pm

re: #252 Rightwingconspirator

Love to show you Big Sur and environs...

Big Sur is just amazing. That's where my roommate gets away to. I used to go to Sea Ranch, until a friend of mine who has a place up there started renting it out. I am such a city mouse, Sea Ranch is roughing it lol

279 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:21:52pm

re: #278 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Big Sur is just amazing. That's where my roommate gets away to. I used to go to Sea Ranch, until a friend of mine who has a place up there started renting it out. I am such a city mouse, Sea Ranch is roughing it lol

Big Sur is cool....... just allow plenty of time and take lot's o' cash.

280 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:22:04pm

re: #277 bratwurst

Bingo. The fact that he is on equal footing with ANYONE at this point is a horrible sign for the GOP.

K Rove is trying to float Palin-run stories again. 9_9

He is such a shyt-disturber.

281 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:23:48pm

re: #274 reine.de.tout

Of course!

If you like Steinbeck, the Steinbeck museum is pretty awesome. Not terribly glamrous, but lots in it about Central Valley agriculture and history, and of course Steinbeck. [Link: www.steinbeck.org...]

282 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:24:17pm

re: #270 Mr Pancakes

I live in avocado country... stolen wine sounds better than stolen guacamole.

I know this will be hard to believe...When we were in High School we used to have parties up in the hills around the Valley.. Just beautiful...200 -300 kids standing out on a ranch over looking the Valley bitching about how much Napa sucked.. There is just nothing to do around here...It's so funny thinking back upon those days..

283 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:24:26pm

Hey, AUSTIN BLUE -

This is the only type of earthquake we experience:

Tiger Stadium was the site of the legendary "Earthquake Game" against Auburn in 1988. LSU won the game, 7-6, when quarterback Tommy Hodson completed a game-winning touchdown pass to running back Eddie Fuller in the waning seconds of the game. The crowd reaction registered as a legitimate earthquake on the seismograph in the Louisiana Geological Survey office on campus.[7]

284 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:25:35pm

re: #282 HoosierHoops

I know this will be hard to believe...When we were in High School we used to have parties up in the hills around the Valley.. Just beautiful...200 -300 kids standing out on a ranch over looking the Valley bitching about how much Napa sucked.. There is just nothing to do around here...It's so funny thinking back upon those days..

Incredible eh? God's country.......... we were never satisfied as kids.

285 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:25:46pm

re: #281 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

If you like Steinbeck, the Steinbeck museum is pretty awesome. Not terribly glamrous, but lots in it about Central Valley agriculture and history, and of course Steinbeck. [Link: www.steinbeck.org...]

I'm going to put up a page and ask for suggestions before we take this trip; so many great things that other folks know about that we would miss if left on our own!

286 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:26:02pm

re: #279 Mr Pancakes

Big Sur is cool... just allow plenty of time and take lot's o' cash.

Yeah it is tourist priced around there. And worth it. For me that part of the coast is a casual photographers paradise, and a pro photographers nightmare. Hard to top a body of work that is so big and in such depth.

287 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:26:11pm

re: #283 reine.de.tout

Hey, AUSTIN BLUE -

This is the only type of earthquake we experience:

Looks bad for LSU...The QB gets into a fight at a bar?

288 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:26:54pm

re: #273 Mr Pancakes

I've been to this castle many times.

[Link: rds.yahoo.com...]

Just once for me. We want to take the kids to Disney World some day.

289 bratwurst  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:27:34pm

re: #280 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

K Rove is trying to float Palin-run stories again. 9_9

He is such a shyt-disturber.

Well Sarah has struck back at Karl in a BIG WAY via her PAC:

Any professional pundit claiming to have "inside information" regarding Governor Palin's personal decision is not only wrong but their comments are specifically intended to mislead the American public.

Keep in mind that these two work for the same company!

290 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:28:00pm

re: #277 bratwurst

Bingo. The fact that he is on equal footing with ANYONE at this point is a horrible sign for the GOP.

Not so sure about that. The bad news for Obama is the latest Florida poll has him way behind in a must-win state.

291 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:31:09pm

OK. Back on the tunces keyboard.

292 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:33:45pm

You have got to see this. Another absolutely stunning time-lapse video from Randy Halvorsen via Phil Plait. Take Phil's advice, select HD and go full screen

293 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:34:05pm

re: #283 reine.de.tout

Hey, AUSTIN BLUE -

This is the only type of earthquake we experience:

No shit. When I was at Tulane, we played the Bayou Bengals every year (yes, yes, I am That Old). So I had two opportunities to visit the Stadium From Hell.

Two points. It's the loudest thing I've ever heard outside of an indoor Grateful Dead concert. Also, LSU students are heroic drinkers. Have mercy!

294 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:35:36pm

re: #288 prairiefire

Just once for me. We want to take the kids to Disney World some day.

I went the year Disneyland opened the year I was born (1955)....... That trip I remember nothing.

We went many times during my childhood..... I remember one visit at night in 1964, Walt pulled up in a horse drawn carriage in Frontier Land and zipped into a side door. My dad said "Look, there's Walt".

295 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:35:49pm
296 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:36:29pm

Sound is good. [x]

297 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:38:55pm

re: #287 HoosierHoops

Looks bad for LSU...The QB gets into a fight at a bar?

I'll send you an email.

298 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:40:05pm

re: #293 austin_blue

No shit. When I was at Tulane, we played the Bayou Bengals every year (yes, yes, I am That Old). So I had two opportunities to visit the Stadium From Hell.

Two points. It's the loudest thing I've ever heard outside of an indoor Grateful Dead concert. Also, LSU students are heroic drinkers. Have mercy!

Stadium is bigger now, you know than it was then.

299 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:42:51pm
300 calochortus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:44:43pm

This is a couple weeks old, but it may not have come to your attention:

NeoNazis tricked by T-shirts

301 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:45:39pm

re: #299 Gus 802

Sisters of Mercy - Temple of Love '92

[Video]

That is one of their best songs........ CRANKED AT 11...... They latch onto a riff though and don't know how to let it go.

302 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:46:44pm

Testing new feature.

303 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:47:39pm

re: #299 Gus 802

Sisters of Mercy - Temple of Love '92

[Video]

That video is 2:58..... the song is actually 8:07 long.

304 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:48:29pm

re: #303 Mr Pancakes

That video is 2:58... the song is actually 8:07 long.

Yeah. It gets cut off.

305 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:49:24pm

Is there an "I take it all back" pencil for when a post is generating a storm of downdings?

306 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:50:14pm

re: #305 lostlakehiker

Is there an "I take it all back" pencil for when a post is generating a storm of downdings?

Take yer dings like a...um...hiker. (Sorry.)

307 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:50:28pm

re: #304 Gus 802

Yeah. It gets cut off.

"A Serious Case of Overbombing" Is an incredible best of. I highly recommend it.

308 jaunte  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:51:19pm

re: #305 lostlakehiker

Is there an "I take it all back" pencil for when a post is generating a storm of downdings?

309 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:51:26pm

Fastball - The Way

My LGF reruns. ;)

310 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:53:13pm

re: #294 Mr Pancakes

I'm holding my Disney coloring book

I was obsessed. Still kind of am.

311 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:53:19pm

re: #306 EmmmieG

Take yer dings like a...um...hiker. (Sorry.)

Yea.... aren't down-dings a badge of honor?

312 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:57:14pm

re: #311 Mr Pancakes

Yea... aren't down-dings a badge of honor?

It depends. Are they for speaking your mind, or being a jerk?

313 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:57:57pm

re: #312 EmmmieG

It depends. Are they for speaking your mind, or being a jerk?

That I don't know.

314 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 8:58:55pm

re: #313 Mr Pancakes

That I don't know.

Well, these are totally theoretical downdings.

315 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:00:11pm

re: #314 EmmmieG

Well, these are totally theoretical downdings.

My downdings are hypothetical.

316 JAFO  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:02:37pm

I for one refuse to correct my tyops!

317 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:06:19pm
318 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:07:23pm

re: #316 mracb

I for one refuse to correct my tyops!

I think Charles should give us a pencil on everybody's posts....... that way we could have a free for all. "I didn't say that!" "Yes you did.... refresh!"

319 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:08:56pm

POW!

[Link: twitter.com...]

320 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:10:30pm

re: #292 Shiplord Kirel

You have got to see this. Another absolutely stunning time-lapse video from Randy Halvorsen via Phil Plait. Take Phil's advice, select HD and go full screen

[Video]

Okay, that was just shit hot. What were all those flashy things in the sky, though? I seem to recall them, but....

321 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:11:04pm

re: #310 prairiefire

I'm holding my Disney coloring book

I was obsessed. Still kind of am.

That is cool...... are you still here?

322 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:11:50pm

re: #282 HoosierHoops

I know this will be hard to believe...When we were in High School we used to have parties up in the hills around the Valley.. Just beautiful...200 -300 kids standing out on a ranch over looking the Valley bitching about how much Napa sucked.. There is just nothing to do around here...It's so funny thinking back upon those days..

Well, there was drinkin' and fuckin'...

323 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:13:18pm
324 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:14:40pm

re: #298 reine.de.tout

Stadium is bigger now, you know than it was then.

Which is just nuts. My *teeth* ached when I got out of Tigertown.

325 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:17:55pm

re: #310 prairiefire

I'm holding my Disney coloring book

I was obsessed. Still kind of am.

I have a Disneyland photo of me if you are still here.

326 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:17:58pm

re: #321 Mr Pancakes

That is cool... are you still here?

I'm going to sign off. That's us kids lined up for a photo having driven from Chicago to KC. Notice the metal cap gun in my middle brother's hand. At the end of the leash I'm holding is a grey poodle named "Jaque". That's me mum and dad. Hard to tell what the cars are. It's from 1969, I think.

Night, lizards.

327 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:18:33pm

re: #325 Mr Pancakes

I have a Disneyland photo of me if you are still here.

Oh, post it!

328 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:18:40pm

re: #308 jaunte

[Video]

Sorry, but I can't go that far. :-O

329 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:19:32pm

oh boy, a bean based soup for dinner last night and left overs for lunch, followed up with carne asada tonight may not have been the best combination

330 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:19:40pm

re: #327 prairiefire

Oh, post it!

Here goes...... with my mom.... circa 1960....... I guess my dad took the photo.Image: disneyland.JPG

331 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:20:39pm

re: #330 Mr Pancakes

Adorable. You look as confident as ever, Mr. Pan.

332 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:22:04pm

re: #331 prairiefire

Adorable. You look as confident as ever, Mr. Pan.

Thanks........ the hat.... was confederate....... I picked the grey over the blue at the hat shop. They embroidered my name on it.

333 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:24:49pm

re: #332 Mr Pancakes

Thanks... the hat... was confederate... I picked the grey over the blue at the hat shop. They embroidered my name on it.

Johnny Reb??

Lil Bubba !?!?!

//

334 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:25:24pm

re: #285 reine.de.tout

I'm going to put up a page and ask for suggestions before we take this trip; so many great things that other folks know about that we would miss if left on our own!

I'll be glad to chime in!

335 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:26:25pm

Fantastic headline:

Greek Police Smash Violent Doughnut Ring

336 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:26:30pm

re: #330 Mr Pancakes

That is so cute. Love her pants, too.

337 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:28:01pm

re: #333 sattv4u2

Johnny Reb??

Lil Bubba !?!?!

//

Johnny Yuma duh!

Johnny Yuma was a rebel
He roamed through the west
Did Johnny Yuma, the rebel
He wandered alone

He got fightin' mad
This rebel lad
He packed no star
As he wandered far
Where the only law
Was a hook and a draw
The rebel, Johnny Yuma

He searched the land
This restless lad
He was panther quick
And leather tough
If he figured that
He'd been pushed enough
The rebel, Johnny Yuma

Fightin' mad
This rebel lad
With a dream he'd hold
'Til his dyin' breath
He'd search his soul
And gamble with death
The rebel, Johnny Yuma

338 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:28:42pm

re: #336 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That is so cute. Love her pants, too.

Hhahaaaha ...... I know.

339 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:28:54pm

re: #289 bratwurst

Well Sarah has struck back at Karl in a BIG WAY via her PAC:

Any professional pundit claiming to have "inside information" regarding Governor Palin's personal decision is not only wrong but their comments are specifically intended to mislead the American public.

Keep in mind that these two work for the same company!

Oh I know. Total showbiz.

Manufactured conflict. :/

340 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:29:07pm

re: #337 Mr Pancakes

And they say Vaudeville is dead!

341 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:29:55pm

Ran across a better version of our favorite response to neo-confederate myth-spouters and racists, Marching Through Georgia sung by none other than Tennessee Ernie Ford:

I don't know if there is a connection, but Tennessee Ernie's home territory in Sullivan County was a hotbed of pro-Union sentiment in Confederate Tennessee during the Civil War.

342 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:32:18pm

Paul Ryan Tried To Carve Out Tax Loopholes For Biggest Campaign Donors

a look at Ryan's record since he was elected to Congress in 1998 shows that he has tried to create an array of special loopholes for his top contributors, whose interests range from air fresheners to fraternity housing to beer.

Take S.C. Johnson & Son, one of Ryan's biggest donors. The multibillion-dollar company, which is based in Ryan's district and manufactures popular cleaning products like Pledge and Windex, donated $41,092 to the congressman between 1998 and 2012, according to OpenSecrets.org.

Ryan introduced two bills in May 2005 that would have granted the company special exemptions from tariffs. Specifically, his bills sought to suspend duties for imported components of "unique air freshener products … assembled by S.C. Johnson in the United States," Ryan said during floor remarks at the time. Neither bill advanced.

343 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:34:47pm
344 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:36:13pm

re: #343 Gus 802

Ray Charles - America The Beautiful

[Video]

America Fuck Yea!

345 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:36:49pm

re: #342 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wow. Can you really do that? Have a bill that only benefits one particular corporation?

This post edited just for the fuck of it.

346 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:37:25pm

Texans Stage Mock Funeral To Mourn The ‘Death Of Good Jobs’ In GOP Congressman’s District

Staffers at the Houston office of GOP Rep. John Culberson (R) must have gotten quite a surprise on Thursday when they looked outside to see more than 100 constituents gathered for a funeral. But this wasn’t a typical funeral — these Texans were gathered to mourn the loss of good, high-wage jobs in their state.

Mourners circled around a mock casket for “Good Jobs,” and Taps played in the background while Rev. Louis Dorsey eulogized. “I used to be middle class!” one woman cried out during the ceremony. Constituents also chanted “Hey, hey, what do you say? How many jobs have you killed today?”

DORSEY: My brothers and my sisters, we are assembled here today to mourn the passing of the jobs in Texas. Jobs died because of a steady influx of minimum wage jobs, tax breaks for corporations and the super-rich, and the policies of politicians like Rep. John Culberson.

347 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:40:02pm

re: #345 Obdicut

Wow. Can you really do that? Have a bill that only benefits one particular corporation?

I can't think of why not. It depends on how it was written.

348 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:41:57pm

re: #347 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I can't think of why not. It depends on how it was written.

It's just a li'l shocking. I guess there's nothing against it. No positive corollary of the bill of attainder.

Blatant greed madness.

349 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:42:46pm

re: #344 Mr Pancakes

America Fuck Yea!

It's always tear jerker listening to Ray Charles sing that song.

350 laZardo  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:46:17pm
351 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:46:51pm

And in movie news...

John Dies at the End ... Status: Post-production

Hell yeah.

352 laZardo  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:47:53pm

re: #351 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And in movie news...

John Dies at the End ... Status: Post-production

Hell yeah.

Sequel:

And Then John Was A Zombie

353 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:48:45pm

What the hell? Suddenly the sound is a couple of octaves lower. Sounds like the speed was cranked down. Never had this happen.

354 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:50:34pm

re: #351 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And in movie news...

John Dies at the End ... Status: Post-production

Hell yeah.

Oh, and they got Paul Giamatti and Clancy Brown in it

355 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:52:33pm

re: #352 laZardo

Sequel:

And Then John Was A Zombie

Actually, Bubba Hotep is getting a prequel apparently

Bubba Nosferatu: Curse of the She-Vampires

This prequel to Bubba Ho-Tep finds Elvis shooting a film in Louisiana when he runs afoul of a coven of she-vampires.

356 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 9:58:17pm

Random. I'm listening to the Beatles Rubber Soul.

Evening!

357 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:00:53pm

re: #353 Gus 802

What the hell? Suddenly the sound is a couple of octaves lower. Sounds like the speed was cranked down. Never had this happen.

Fixed. Some Karaoke setting on Win 7. Whew. Weird.

358 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:01:03pm

Republicans for Tax Hikes

The paper asked Huntsman if "the half of American households no longer paying income tax—mainly working poor families and seniors—should be brought onto the income tax rolls."
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He agreed, crediting the GOP's current front-runner for vice president, Sen. Marco Rubio, with the insight that "we don't have enough people paying taxes in this country."

The Journal called this position the "new GOP orthodoxy," which it is. When he announced his presidential bid two weeks ago, Perry told a room of conservative activists and bloggers that "we're dismayed at the injustice that nearly half of all Americans don't even pay any income tax." He was following on Bachmann, who'd just told the South Carolina Christian Chamber of Commerce the very same thing.

"Part of the problem is today, only 53 percent pay any federal income tax at all; 47 percent pay nothing," said Bachmann. "We need to broaden the base so that everybody pays something, even if it's a dollar. Everyone should pay something, because we all benefit."

359 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:02:35pm

re: #356 Stanley Sea

Random. I'm listening to the Beatles Rubber Soul.

Evening!

Listening to Junior Brown right now.

360 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:03:56pm
361 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:03:57pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Listening to Junior Brown right now.

Listening to Renaissance right now........ no one has ever heard of them.

362 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:04:43pm

re: #361 Mr Pancakes

Listening to Renaissance right now... no one has ever heard of them.

Oh I have. They used to be rather popular.

363 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:05:11pm

re: #362 Gus 802

Oh I have. They used to be rather popular.

Back in the 70's maybe.......

364 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:05:15pm

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

365 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:06:54pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

you forgot something

366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:09:34pm

re: #361 Mr Pancakes

Listening to Renaissance right now... no one has ever heard of them.

I heart Annie Haslam.

367 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:10:14pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

Lol, editing time expired!

368 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:10:15pm
369 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:10:37pm

re: #362 Gus 802

Oh I have. They used to be rather popular.

This is the only song that made it out to the west coast....... but because of the strength of this song I became a fan.

A Trip To The Fair......

370 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:11:05pm

re: #366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I heart Annie Haslam.

You rule

371 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:12:19pm

re: #368 Gus 802

Where's man card now Krager? //

Last I saw it, it was talking about getting a pedicure.

372 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:12:30pm

re: #369 Mr Pancakes

This is the only song that made it out to the west coast... but because of the strength of this song I became a fan.

A Trip To The Fair...

[Video]

Have two friends that really love those guys.

373 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:13:03pm

re: #371 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Last I saw it, it was talking about getting a pedicure.

374 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:13:10pm

re: #370 Mr Pancakes

You rule

^Good as any for Your High-Drama 80s Keyboards Clip of the Day.

375 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:13:48pm

re: #374 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

[Video]

Great song

376 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:14:11pm

re: #371 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Last I saw it, it was talking about getting a pedicure.

Yep. Taupe nail color.

//

377 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:14:39pm

re: #375 Mr Pancakes

Yeah, audio's bad on that one but I do like the visuals < 3

378 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:14:43pm

Gah and it was more than I typed in awhile.

My q is, aren't the folks that dont pay taxes the poor? The ones that dont make it to 15k (correct me) and the corps of course.

BS talking point, but kinda powerful to the scaredy cats.

379 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:15:14pm

Daffy: Libyans must cleanse capital of rebels

"All Libyans must be present in Tripoli, young men, tribal men and women must sweep through Tripoli and comb it for traitors," the Libyan leader said. "I have been out a bit in Tripoli discreetly, without being seen by people, and ... I did not feel that Tripoli was in danger," he added.

So if its so safe, why did he make sure he wasn't seen?

380 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:15:40pm

re: #346 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Texans Stage Mock Funeral To Mourn The ‘Death Of Good Jobs’ In GOP Congressman’s District

That's just a show to support an ill-grounded Democrat talking point. Texas receives many immigrants across the border with Mexico. Most come here without any legal authorization, but there they are. Now what?

We don't feed them to the alligators. We don't conduct roundups and sweeps. We aren't allowed to and we probably wouldn't if we were. We can't afford to put them all on welfare. That leaves fixing them up with jobs.

They can't do high skill work, not many of them. So we make do with what we have to work with, and we fix them up with downscale jobs.

Our home-born population isn't particularly well educated either. We do all right, I guess, according to the NAEP. We have a fairly high fraction of students who enter high school and graduate on time. But we're not CT or MN or MA.

We can't provide the tens of thousands of workers Siemens is looking for. Then again, neither can anybody else. It's not like weaknesses in education are unique to TX.

Things could have been worse. They could have been like much of the rest of the country, with precious few jobs even at the downscale end. It's nothing to brag about, but it's nothing to be ashamed of either, that we have grown some jobs, be they ever so humble, in the teeth of a slump.

381 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:16:21pm

re: #376 Gus 802

Yep. Taupe nail color.

//

You said taupe. You're never getting that card back.

382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:16:24pm

re: #378 Stanley Sea

Gah and it was more than I typed in awhile.

My q is, aren't the folks that dont pay taxes the poor? The ones that dont make it to 15k (correct me) and the corps of course.

BS talking point, but kinda powerful to the scaredy cats.

Also the seniors on SS. That gets left out of their little scapegoating/hater stat.

383 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:16:34pm

re: #377 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, audio's bad on that one but I do like the visuals < 3

Keith Relf from the Yardbirds was in Renaissance also....... RIP.

384 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:19:11pm

re: #378 Stanley Sea

Gah and it was more than I typed in awhile.

My q is, aren't the folks that dont pay taxes the poor? The ones that dont make it to 15k (correct me) and the corps of course.

BS talking point, but kinda powerful to the scaredy cats.

Everybody pays sales tax. A considerable number of people don't pay taxes, net. After the earned income tax credit and other forms of public support are factored in, the threshold is probably higher. Depends if single, couple, couple with children, of course.

385 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:19:41pm

re: #380 lostlakehiker

We don't feed them to the alligators. We don't conduct roundups and sweeps. We aren't allowed to and we probably wouldn't if we were.

lmao

386 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:21:02pm

This is so much fun it should be illegal. Junior Brown and the Beach Boys, 409

387 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:22:52pm

re: #383 Mr Pancakes

Keith Relf from the Yardbirds was in Renaissance also... RIP.

What are you playing right now? I have Tales of 1001 Nights 1 and 2 in my iTunes.

388 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:26:02pm

re: #387 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

What are you playing right now? I have Tales of 1001 Nights 1 and 2 in my iTunes.

Renaissance "The Sea" from Renaissance the album 1969.

I have tales of 1001 nights....... not a bad song in that collection.

389 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:30:26pm

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Republicans for Tax Hikes

When we're talking about token federal income tax, we're talking symbolism. The Republican point isn't to stick it to the folks at the 40th percentile and try to rake the bucks in from them. It's to educate them to the reality of what life is like a bit higher on the government's food chain. That reality is that, to be able to spend and deliver benefits, the government must collect from its citizenry. That the benefits aren't "free".

If government benefits came from heaven, like sunlight, gentle rain, and moonbeams, we wouldn't worry about government spending. More would be better. Why be chintzy?

It would strengthen the Republican hand in elections if Joe Public had to pay federal income tax and fork over at least a little something.

Unfortunately, the way the distribution of earnings power has shaped up over the last few decades, that's not going to happen. In music, for instance, the technology that allows for high fidelity recording and distribution of songs means that a relatively few, amazingly good musicians can perform for billions.

It's sort of that way in many other industries. The Gini index goes up, and the fraction of people who make enough to be relevant to the enormous government appetite for money falls.

The government is powerless to redistribute earnings power. It can redistribute the fruits. It does. It should, to a point. It can futz with the rules and create the appearance of earnings power by creating make work jobs. It does that too, to some extent. If the make work jobs produce something, anything, of even a little value to society, maybe that's for the best. But earnings power hasn't really been redistributed.

390 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:31:14pm

re: #385 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

lmao

Oh yeah? How come AZ has tried, and TX hasn't? Because public sentiment here is different.

391 Timmeh  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:31:25pm

Thanks Charles!

Hey it works too!

392 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:31:26pm

re: #384 lostlakehiker

Everybody pays sales tax. A considerable number of people don't pay taxes, net. After the earned income tax credit and other forms of public support are factored in, the threshold is probably higher. Depends if single, couple, couple with children, of course.

So basically it's the folks who can take the basic deductions and come out to zero taxable income they ate targeting. Yeah. Here we go again.

393 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:33:44pm

re: #174 b_sharp

Come on up to central Canada. The summers here are dry and warm (25C -35C). We have lots of fresh water lakes, forests and valleys. We even have a bit of a desert and some badlands.

You'll have more of those by and by. And tons of desperate illegal immigrants from the U.S. This AGW stuff is gonna get ugly.

394 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:34:10pm

re: #390 lostlakehiker

Oh yeah? How come AZ has tried, and TX hasn't?

If the bigots in TX thought they could get away with it, they would.

Because public sentiment here is different.

Exactly. See above.

395 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:35:30pm

re: #392 Stanley Sea

So basically it's the folks who can take the basic deductions and come out to zero taxable income they ate targeting. Yeah. Here we go again.

Exactly. Class and other social resentments are all conservtives have. And they are going to ride that horse until it drops in 2012.

396 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:36:28pm

re: #386 Shiplord Kirel

This is so much fun it should be illegal. Junior Brown and the Beach Boys, 409

[Video]

JB's great. Love his voice. The guitar work. The lyrics. Great stuff.

397 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:36:42pm

re: #392 Stanley Sea

So basically it's the folks who can take the basic deductions and come out to zero taxable income they ate targeting. Yeah. Here we go again.

That's right. They'd like to make it a $20 minimum, just to make that political point. It won't happen because the hassle factor isn't worth it. It's not a well thought through thing.

398 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:38:34pm

Johnny Cash lays down the law to sinners, quacks, and hypocrites:

(Are you listening Goodhair and Barton?)

399 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:39:43pm

re: #392 Stanley Sea

So basically it's the folks who can take the basic deductions and come out to zero taxable income they ate targeting. Yeah. Here we go again.

Of course having a tax code so fouled up you need to hire an expert to take more than just the basic deductions is just a side benefit to make sure the poor know their place.

400 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:42:23pm
401 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:44:12pm

re: #277 bratwurst

Bingo. The fact that he is on equal footing with ANYONE at this point is a horrible sign for the GOP.

It's sobering for both sides. By rights, both sides should have a lock on the next election because the other side's record is so pitiful.

We, the voting public, have nothing to rejoice about.

402 laZardo  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:44:20pm

re: #398 Shiplord Kirel

Johnny Cash lays down the law to sinners, quacks, and hypocrites:

[Video](Are you listening Goodhair and Barton?)

Even atheists go Christian for Johnny Cash.

/ :B

403 Gus  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:45:22pm
404 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:45:53pm

re: #399 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course having a tax code so fouled up you need to hire an expert to take more than just the basic deductions is just a side benefit to make sure the poor know their place.

That code is a curse on the rich, and it doesn't touch the poor. The basic deduction more than covers their income, so they end up paying nothing and still getting a refund. Fine with me, but they can file a 1040EZ and it's a tiny fraction of the hassle everybody with more involved returns must go through.

405 laZardo  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:46:18pm

re: #404 lostlakehiker

That code is a curse on the rich, and it doesn't touch the poor. The basic deduction more than covers their income, so they end up paying nothing and still getting a refund. Fine with me, but they can file a 1040EZ and it's a tiny fraction of the hassle everybody with more involved returns must go through.

The poor can't exactly afford to wait until after April 15 to get their "refund."

406 Kragar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:48:35pm

re: #404 lostlakehiker

That code is a curse on the rich, and it doesn't touch the poor. The basic deduction more than covers their income, so they end up paying nothing and still getting a refund. Fine with me, but they can file a 1040EZ and it's a tiny fraction of the hassle everybody with more involved returns must go through.

Yeah, it sucks to be the rich. The poor have it so easy.

407 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:48:51pm

re: #380 lostlakehiker

That's just a show to support an ill-grounded Democrat talking point. Texas receives many immigrants across the border with Mexico. Most come here without any legal authorization, but there they are. Now what?

We don't feed them to the alligators. We don't conduct roundups and sweeps. We aren't allowed to and we probably wouldn't if we were. We can't afford to put them all on welfare. That leaves fixing them up with jobs.

They can't do high skill work, not many of them. So we make do with what we have to work with, and we fix them up with downscale jobs.

Our home-born population isn't particularly well educated either. We do all right, I guess, according to the NAEP. We have a fairly high fraction of students who enter high school and graduate on time. But we're not CT or MN or MA.

We can't provide the tens of thousands of workers Siemens is looking for. Then again, neither can anybody else. It's not like weaknesses in education are unique to TX.

Things could have been worse. They could have been like much of the rest of the country, with precious few jobs even at the downscale end. It's nothing to brag about, but it's nothing to be ashamed of either, that we have grown some jobs, be they ever so humble, in the teeth of a slump.

Great point, LLH.

408 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:03:52pm

...

409 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:54:14pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Listening to Junior Brown right now.

He used to be fucked up on drugs, now he's fucked up on the Lord. Hell of a guit-steel player, though.

410 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:56:50pm

re: #379 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Daffy: Libyans must cleanse capital of rebels

So if its so safe, why did he make sure he wasn't seen?

Wacky Quadaffy, at this point. He is *so* toast.

411 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:37:23am

test works!!

412 Summer Seale  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:47:17am

Awsome!!!

Oops. =)

413 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:59:02am

re: #389 lostlakehiker

When we're talking about token federal income tax, we're talking symbolism. The Republican point isn't to stick it to the folks at the 40th percentile and try to rake the bucks in from them. It's to educate them to the reality of what life is like a bit higher on the government's food chain. That reality is that, to be able to spend and deliver benefits, the government must collect from its citizenry. That the benefits aren't "free".

Those people do pay taxes, you realize. Why on earth would you fall for Bachmann's bullshit?

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:39:33am

re: #1 abolitionist

Thank you, Charles. You're swell.

415 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:44:04am

Heh, I wake up and see this. Pleasant surprise.

[test] yeaaaarrrrrggghhh!

416 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:45:04am

(Dunno if it has been suggested above, but it may be useful to include "comment edited at date:time" for edited comments).

417 William of Orange  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:02:50am

This is a tept.

Edit:

It works. I meant test!!

:-)

Now that editing works, how about adding smilies?

418 William of Orange  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:04:42am

re: #416 Sergey Romanov

(Dunno if it has been suggested above, but it may be useful to include "comment edited at date:time" for edited comments).

I hate that....

Especially when it says: "Edited 23 times.

419 makeitstop  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:52:13am

What the hey, let's try it.

P Pencil icon IMF.


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