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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 10:51:30am
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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 10:51:51am
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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 10:53:05am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting markings on that kitty.

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aatharuv  Dec 5, 2022 • 10:53:24am

re: #337 ckkatz

Looks like another candidate has thrown their hat in the race to unseat Ronna McDaniel, Harmeet Dhillon.

Politico - Ronna McDaniel set to get new opponent for RNC post

She was the head of the SF GOP, had donated to some of Kamala Harris’s earlier political campaigns, and was a board member of the ACLU at one time, though despite those other credentials, she was certainly a Trumper.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 10:55:31am
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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 10:55:47am

re: #5 aatharuv

She was the head of the SF GOP, had donated to some of Kamala Harris’s earlier political campaigns, and was a board member of the ACLU at one time, though despite those other credentials, she was certainly a Trumper.

Interesting!

I wonder if she is a “True Believer” or a cynical grifter just seeing a chance to up her take?

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2022 • 10:59:20am
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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:02:31am

He now says he didn’t post what he posted.

Oh F this piece of trash!

rawstory.com

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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:04:00am
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Nyet  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:04:16am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank God for small things.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:04:50am

re: #9 Joe Bacon

He now says he didn’t post what he posted.

Oh F this piece of trash!

rawstory.com

“IT WASN’T ME, IT WAS MY EVIL TWIN TONALD DRUMP THAT POSTED THAT!!”

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:05:30am

re: #9 Joe Bacon

He now says he didn’t post what he posted.

Oh F this piece of trash!

rawstory.com

I’m sure that’ll be just enough plausible deniability for the media to ignore what he said and the party to get away with supporting this scumbag.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:06:20am
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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:07:57am

re: #9 Joe Bacon

He now says he didn’t post what he posted.

Oh F this piece of trash!

rawstory.com

Fancy a little gaslighting?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:08:45am

Sad photo of Lloyd Center in Portland, OR. Decorated for the holidays (sorta) and no one there….

Friends of mine who live in PDX have mentioned that the Lloyd Center is a dead mall for all intents and purposes.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:09:44am

re: #15 ckkatz

Fartlighting is more like it.

That’s why I only posted the link. I’m tired of copying and pasting what that fucking fascist does. And I’m disgusted with his pals in the press downplaying him.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:10:14am

From the man who recently purchased Twitter:

(What is ChatGPT:
ChatGPT is a prototype dialogue-based AI chatbot capable of understanding natural human language and generating impressively detailed human-like written text. It is the latest evolution of the GPT - or Generative Pre-Trained Transformer - family of text-generating AIs)

(Who made ChatGPT?
ChatGPT is a conversational chatbot. It has been developed by Elon Musk-founded independent research body OpenAI. The organisation was co-founded by its current CEO Sam Altman and Elon Musk in 2015)

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Nyet  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:11:55am

One more thing Trump refuses to get is that whoever becomes President during the swearing in ceremony remains legal president even if it later turns out that there truly was some epic fraud that brought them into office. They could be impeached or whatever, but until then they’re the one and only legal president. The reason for this is the stability of power. Any new president doesn’t have to worry about whether or not they will be retroactively declared illegitimate due to pure political shenanigans and thus all of the laws they signed etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:12:19am

The Hungry Tree in Dublin is an 80-year-old London Plane tree that’s currently in the process of devouring a cast iron bench. As the years have passed, the tree has grown, causing it to swallow the parts of the structure that stands in its way. Its gnarled bark now spills over the back of the bench, making it appear as though the seat is being sucked into the tree’s trunk.

It isn’t the first tree to eat something that stood in its way. Other trees around the world have acted similarly when faced with an obstacle that intrudes upon their growth. Still that hasn’t stopped the Hungry Tree from being listed by the Tree Council of Ireland as one of Ireland’s Heritage Trees.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:13:09am

The SCOTUS is officially highjacked by GQP Nazis:

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aatharuv  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:14:30am

re: #7 ckkatz

Interesting!

I wonder if she is a “True Believer” or a cynical grifter just seeing a chance to up her take?

I’m guessing someone trying to advance their own agenda by riding on the Trump train. So grifter, I suppose.

From what I recall (from more than a decade ago) , her support for the ACLU was for anti-religious discrimation cases — she’s a Sikh and there were and are numerous cases, where religious Sikhs have been forced to remove their turbans or are not allowed for jobs which aren’t necessitated for safety reasons.

Edit: Seemingly, she’s a standard right-winger, otherwise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:16:05am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:16:36am

A “Tele-Rally”. LOLZ. 😂😂😂😂 How pathetic.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:17:32am

re: #17 Joe Bacon

Fartlighting is more like it.

That’s why I only posted the link. I’m tired of copying and pasting what that fucking fascist does. And I’m disgusted with his pals in the press downplaying him.

Reminded of this 2016 tweet from a former NYT reporter:

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:18:02am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:20:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:20:43am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:24:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:26:32am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:27:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:29:45am

re: #29 Barefoot Grin

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:34:06am

This happens, a bunch of young people are going to learn that unions are ok, and that will be a massive shakeup of a big industry:

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:36:37am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:37:50am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

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These guys all look the same whether Portland or NC.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:38:56am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:43:37am

re: #36 Dopamine Fish

How do conservatives and their enablers propose to distinguish this kind of bigotry from someone who claims their business can’t serve black people because of their “religious views”?

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:45:39am

re: #36 Dopamine Fish

That’s the proverbial slippery slope and I can guarantee you these people would love a “religious” excuse to be bigoted towards Mr. Cohen as well.

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Renaissance_Man  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:46:22am

re: #36 Dopamine Fish

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But that’s not compelled speech. Neither is baking a cake for a gay couple. The issue at hand isn’t that the web designer is compelled to provide their services, but that they chose to provide a service, yet want to not provide that service based on the sexual orientation of the client. It’s not ‘compelled’ any more than a diner is ‘compelled’ to serve a black man if they come in. The vendor is offering a service. They are allowed to withhold service if they so choose, but cannot do so based on a protected class such as race, gender or sexual orientation.

If the threshold is ‘using a different web designer’, then a black man can ‘use a different diner’.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:50:27am

re: #37 EPR-radar

How do conservatives and their enablers propose to distinguish this kind of bigotry from someone who claims their business can’t serve black people because of their “religious views”?

That’s coming down the pike from this racist court majority.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:51:33am

re: #39 Renaissance_Man

But that’s not compelled speech. Neither is baking a cake for a gay couple.

But It is, if they’re being forced to provide the service. You’re telling them that they have to tacitly approve of gay marriage by providing services for gay couples seeking to get married. That’s why this whole debate is so fucking weird. Because I don’t necessarily want to force these businesses to have to provide services to people with whose values they disagree, because that’s state-compelled speech… but that’s also literally the point of anti-discrimination laws: To require businesses to provide services to people they would ordinarily choose not to. It’s a logical contradiction introduced by the whole “corporations are people too” case law precedent, and I really don’t know what to say or do about it. I’m just presenting here Mr. Cohen’s reasoned opinion, and as he is a seasoned litigator, I’d imagine he has some idea what he’s on about. There’s a spirited debate in the comments.

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nines09  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:51:38am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Fucking amazing isn’t it?

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:53:07am

Here. A sample:

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nines09  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:55:33am

Off to cut my maiden grass down. Crawl on concrete and remember how I could do this for hours before gravity got heavier.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:56:37am

This is probably an even clearer example of what, to me, is a “clear as mud” situation.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2022 • 11:57:19am

re: #38 William Lewis

That’s the proverbial slippery slope and I can guarantee you these people would love a “religious” excuse to be bigoted towards Mr. Cohen as well.

Remember when the SCOTUS ruled that they didn’t have to allow gays in and then told the Boy Scouts that no one could be forced to fund them?

In a functional SCOTUS and democracy, there are those kinds of fine lines. If she’s not the only web designer, then their choices aren’t limited, and she can lose work if she wants to make that choice.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:00:49pm

re: #45 Dopamine Fish

This is probably an even clearer example of what, to me, is a “clear as mud” situation.

The problem with that statement is that this court will take the precedent of B to say that that A is legal too, I guarantee it.

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EPR-radar  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:02:23pm

re: #47 William Lewis

The problem with that statement is that this court will take the precedent of B to say that that A is legal too, I guarantee it.

I do wonder if these SCOTUS jackasses will take this “logic” to its natural conclusion and overrule Brown v Board of Education.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:03:29pm

re: #47 William Lewis

The problem with that statement is that this court will take the precedent of B to say that that A is legal too, I guarantee it.

Alito’s Calvinball Court is absolutely wild, to be sure; we have no idea what to expect. Apparently, the oral arguments were something to behold. I’m told that Neil Gorsuch was pretty transparent that he wanted to do away with any kind of anti-discrimination law whatsoever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:04:18pm
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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:05:59pm

re: #9 Joe Bacon Dec 5, 2022 • 11:02:31am

He now says he didn’t post what he posted.

Oh F this piece of trash!

rawstory.com

re: #341 Dangerman 12/05/2022 10:23:12 am PST

Create enough confusion and that becomes the story:
Does anyone really know what he said?

i was ahead by about 40 minutes

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:06:39pm

re: #13 Dopamine Fish

I’m sure that’ll be just enough plausible deniability for the media to ignore what he said and the party to get away with supporting this scumbag.

aaaaand scene.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:06:57pm

Michael Avenatti gets 14 years in prison for defrauding Stormy Daniels.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:07:21pm

re: #51 Dangerman

I needed to vent, Dangerman. It’s been one of those days and I’m just frustrated as all CENSORED…

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:07:31pm

re: #19 Nyet

One more thing Trump refuses to get is that whoever becomes President during the swearing in ceremony remains legal president even if it later turns out that there truly was some epic fraud that brought them into office. They could be impeached or whatever, but until then they’re the one and only legal president. The reason for this is the stability of power. Any new president doesn’t have to worry about whether or not they will be retroactively declared illegitimate due to pure political shenanigans and thus all of the laws they signed etc.

kinda like scotus judges // (1/2)

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:08:07pm

re: #49 Dopamine Fish

Alito’s Calvinball Court is absolutely wild, to be sure; we have no idea what to expect. Apparently, the oral arguments were something to behold. I’m told that Neil Gorsuch was pretty transparent that he wanted to do away with any kind of anti-discrimination law whatsoever.

Building on Roberts’ deciding that we’re in a post racial nation and gutting civil rights enforcement under the VRA (Shelby).

They’re all for gutting civil and voting rights of minorities. They care only that white Christian males are given all the preferences, and if you discriminate against that group, then you’re in the wrong.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:08:18pm

re: #48 EPR-radar

I do wonder if these SCOTUS jackasses will take this “logic” to its natural conclusion and overrule Brown v Board of Education.

Of course. But it will happen after they’ve overturned Obergefell v. Hodges, Griswold v. Connecticut & Loving v. Virginia.

OTOH, they’ve been very careful to not overturn Korematsu v. United States because they’ll need that legal fig leaf when their buddies come to power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:09:43pm
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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:13:25pm

re: #39 Renaissance_Man

But that’s not compelled speech. Neither is baking a cake for a gay couple. The issue at hand isn’t that the web designer is compelled to provide their services, but that they chose to provide a service, yet want to not provide that service based on the sexual orientation of the client. It’s not ‘compelled’ any more than a diner is ‘compelled’ to serve a black man if they come in. The vendor is offering a service. They are allowed to withhold service if they so choose, but cannot do so based on a protected class such as race, gender or sexual orientation.

If the threshold is ‘using a different web designer’, then a black man can ‘use a different diner’.

further, in my mind the question in these cases is whose speech is it?
whose words, whose ideas?

i tell you want i want on my cake, or website.
i give you the words, the vows, the theme, the sentiment.

you’re merely a scribe. not the author.

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nines09  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:13:31pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

“They say we be hanging N-CLANG and that is not true. We shoot them.”

Concrete calls…
Later lizards

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EPR-radar  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:15:42pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is certainly a moment of clarity. What could be more of a right wing nut job position than the flat denial that there are systematic injustices in the US, and that even if there were any, they shouldn’t be addressed?

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:16:49pm

re: #53 Dopamine Fish

Michael Avenatti gets 14 years in prison for defrauding Stormy Daniels.

proof that you can insurrect the country but dont mess with people’s money

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Captain Ron  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:17:08pm
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:17:37pm

re: #59 Dangerman

further, in my mind the question in these cases is whose speech is it?
whose words, whose ideas?

i tell you want i want on my cake, or website.
i give you the words, the vows, the theme, the sentiment.

you’re merely a scribe. not the author.

So does that mean social media platforms can’t take down user posts or ban problematic users? After all, they’re not the authors, they’re merely hosting the content.

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:18:02pm

re: #54 Joe Bacon

I needed to vent, Dangerman. It’s been one of those days and I’m just frustrated as all CENSORED…

oh not at all
i am totally right there with you

i was saying i didnt think ‘they’ would get there this fast

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:18:34pm

re: #15 ckkatz

Fancy a little gaslighting?

Gaslighting? Uncontrolled burnoff at the wellhead.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:21:42pm
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:23:35pm
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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:23:56pm

re: #66 Grunthos the Flatulent

Gaslighting? Uncontrolled burnoff at the wellhead.

Oil fields of Kuwait burning during Gulf War level gaslighting..

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:24:55pm
Until last month, Thomas Achord’s friends in the increasingly assertive world of right-wing Christian nationalism saw him as an upstanding member of their movement.

The headmaster of a Baton Rouge school that teaches “classical Christian education,” Achord hosted a podcast with the author of a new book advocating for Christian nationalism. In the insular online community where Christian nationalists debate how to live out their values in a secular world—perhaps by abandoning society altogether or by rallying around an American Caesar who will impose their values by force—Achord was seen as a rising star.

Then someone found his secret Twitter account.

Achord lived a clandestine second life on Twitter, under the vaguely ancient-sounding name “Tulius Aadland.” There, he called a Black member of Congress a “negress” and Black teenagers “chimps.” Achord opined about his desires for a “race realist white nationalism.” He complained that the middle school-aged stars of a Netflix movie simply weren’t hot enough for him. He expounded on his ideas about “Jewish satanism” and argued Jewish people were tricking the United States into “Jew wars.”

Achord’s two worlds collided shortly before Thanksgiving, when Twitter users connected his public profile with the Tulius account. Confronted with evidence that he ran the account, including a picture taken inside his school, Achord was quickly fired.

Achord initially denied the account belonged to him. Three days later, he tried a novel defense, admitting that he did run the account but that, stricken by a sort of Twitter-only amnesia, he had no memory of writing it.

Achord insisted there were contradictions between himself and the “Tulius” person that he couldn’t reconcile. For example, while he wrote on the Tulius account that he would never go to a Mexican restaurant, his Mexican mother had made him food as a child.

Achord’s secret Twitter account has occasioned much agonizing in the world of Christian nationalism, as his ideological compatriots publicly struggle to understand how one of their own could harbor such racist views. One called him a “stowaway” within Christian nationalism, smuggling racism into their beliefs.

But to Christian nationalism’s critics, the idea that the movement contains white supremacist ideas is no surprise. Even before America’s founding, Christian nationalism was used to justify taking Native American land and enslaving people, according to Philip Gorski, a Yale sociology and religious studies professor.

“It’s always been there,” Gorski said of the racism within Christian nationalism. “It just sunk out of view for some people.”

Christian Nationalist Leader Claims He Forgot He Ran Mega-Racist Twitter Account (The Daily Beast)

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:25:02pm

re: #68 Dopamine Fish

Fuck that guy and fuck anyone who even for a moment considered him a possible candidate for any political office, let alone the WH.

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:27:05pm

re: #71 lawhawk

Seems that the aforementioned quip could apply to any number of public figures being mentioned in today’s thread, including Trump, Achord, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:28:02pm
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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:28:13pm

re: #70 Crush White Nationalism

Christian Nationalist Leader Claims He Forgot He Ran Mega-Racist Twitter Account (The Daily Beast)

“Forgot.” What a liar. Shocked that a Christian nationalist is also a Nazi./

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:31:58pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:32:28pm

re: #72 lawhawk

Seems that the aforementioned quip could apply to any number of public figures being mentioned in today’s thread, including Trump, Achord, etc.

Half of us value what they call “piety” over reason or facts. We’re a nation of airheads.

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Nyet  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:34:11pm

re: #62 Dangerman

proof that you can insurrect the country but dont mess with people’s money

Bam!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:36:00pm

re: #70 Crush White Nationalism

Christian Nationalist Leader Claims He Forgot He Ran Mega-Racist Twitter Account (The Daily Beast)

This is like colonialists being disgusted by the Belgian Congo.

You’re still doing an authoritarian system that crushes people, but you’re supposed to maintain the conceit that “normal” abuse of power is the opposite of “weird” abuse of power.

That’s what makes you the good guys, see.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:40:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:40:30pm

re: #63 Captain Ron

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One of my favorite things about Glenn is how frequently and loudly he accuses the “left” of being hyperbolic.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:41:48pm
Resharing one of Musk’s tweets about his plans for more “Twitter files,” Stone simply wrote: “Gross.”

Musk originally teased the release of the so-called “Twitter Files” last week, claiming they would show “free speech suppression.” Some of the documents were shared on Twitter by Matt Taibbi, an author and journalist who writes the Substack newsletter TK News.

One of the revelations focused on internal Twitter communications about the controversial suppression of a news story concerning Hunter Biden’s laptop.

Insider’s Katherine Tangalakis-Lippert reported that the files showed the 2020 Biden presidential campaign asked Twitter to remove posts, including nude photos of Hunter Biden, which were already in violation of its revenge porn policy.

In an apparent reference to Musk, Stone later tweeted: “He’s not a serious person. He does things for sport that have serious consequences for real people.”

That’s one way of saying that he’s a sociopath.

Twitter cofounder Biz Stone appears to slam Elon Musk over ‘gross’ release of ‘Twitter files,’ saying he’s not a serious person (Business Insider)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:44:08pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:46:34pm

I love this meme:

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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:56:18pm

Not it’s not, Rudy.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:57:12pm
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No Malarkey!  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:59:05pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:59:19pm

Sooooo. I am having a ‘debate’ / ‘discussion’ with a white-supremacist, obejectivist, free-speaker on faceplant. I simply ask for a rational why we should debate “”“”everything”“”” to make society better. Never an answer as to why misogeny, racism, antisemitism, bigotry is OK.

Is the dopamine rush with argiung that great? I keep going back in to fight.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 12:59:55pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:02:09pm

re: #88 The Ghost of a Flea

I smell burnt toast, do you smell burnt toast?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:03:02pm
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DodgerFan1988  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:03:41pm
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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:04:03pm

re: #18 BeenHereAwhile

Perfect demonstration that it doesn’t “understand human language”.

“Appeal to his ego” becomes “flatter him about the size of his ego”.

Good bot, that’ll do (take it out back and shoot it).

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:05:42pm

re: #88 The Ghost of a Flea

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:08:07pm

re: #18 BeenHereAwhile

Interesting.

The problem is that the underlying assumption of this is that Putin is a rational actor.

He is not. He is a human being. Human beings are not thinking machines that feel. They are feeling machines that think.

So his reaction to this, if he reads it, will be fury.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:08:40pm

re: #86 No Malarkey!

Ron Desantis? Fucking seriously, TIME?

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:09:16pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

How things have changed. Neither of them is smoking.

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Nyet  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:11:04pm

re: #18 BeenHereAwhile

omg, that AI is so dumb that it erases all my hopes in AI capabilities.

//1/2

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Acemarilllion (yes, three 'l's)  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:12:08pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron Desantis? Fucking seriously, TIME?

BITD when Hitler was man of the year (1938)
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Dr. Matt  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:12:31pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron Desantis? Fucking seriously, TIME?

Zelenskyy hands down SHOULD win. But, I won’t be surprised if it’s Elmo or DeathSantis. I am surprised they didn’t include Kkkanye.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:12:35pm

re: #97 Nyet

You had hope? Snork

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:14:33pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron Desantis? Fucking seriously, TIME?

They’ve been pro-fascism since day one. Why would they change now?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:17:03pm
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nines09  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:20:05pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lifetime job fucking people.
With great pay and benefits you and I could only dream about.
Oh, and bodyguards. Professional bodyguards.
Could I have a slice of that?
PS
Almost forgot the pension plan. You know, that one we could never afford? Because.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:25:52pm

re: #103 nines09

Also, absolutely ZERO accountability.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:26:18pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:26:33pm

re: #97 Nyet

omg, that AI is so dumb that it erases all my hopes in AI capabilities.

//1/2

Perhaps Apple, Google, or Amazon?

//

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nines09  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:27:36pm

i turned the volume up this morning
till there was ringing in my ears
i haven’t felt this good in years
another villain on the cover
of every major magazine
the victim somewhere in between
see how they twist and shout
and as i’m searching for the story
subscription card falls on the floor
i’m losing interest more and more
to pick it up i’m bending over
out of the corner of my eye
i see a pair of blazing thighs
see how they twist and shout
see how they twist and shout
i straighten up to look her over
and up my back a shooting pain
it’s bound to settle in my brain
another villain on the cover
of every major magazine
the victim somewhere in between
see how they twist and shout
see how they twist and shout

The Verve Pipe - Villains

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:28:46pm
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Florida Panhandler  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:28:46pm

re: #98 Acemarilllion (yes, three ‘l’s)

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The fact DeSantis is on the short list is enough to make Trump go ballistic right now. He’ll probably start rage posting anytime now. Just think of the nuclear meltdown if DeSantis gets the cover.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:31:07pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Emily Grace Rainey (R-Nazi B*tch) would fit in comfortable as a commander’s wife in Gilead.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:32:50pm

re: #109 Florida Panhandler

The fact DeSantis is on the short list is enough to make Trump go ballistic right now. He’ll probably start rage posting anytime now. Just think of the nuclear meltdown if DeSantis gets the cover.

If there is a God, Zelensky should get the cover.

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:36:50pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sells Pepsi and Coke.

Innocent days.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:37:02pm

This is on newsstands now. I picked up the image from someone trying to sell it for nine bucks on eBay.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:38:28pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:39:38pm

re: #97 Nyet

omg, that AI is so dumb that it erases all my hopes in AI capabilities.

//1/2

Artifice of Intelligence | CYBERGUNK 01

All the shit we’re watching is just algorithms: stuff a machine that can sort things with enough data and it can sew together something that approximates the features of the example set.

It’s being sold as AI because that’s…cooler…and ducks around how the entire process is built on the sheer quantity of scraped data, and also because the idea that it’s “thought” covers for the fact it’s just pattern recognition. The system cannot be better than its data set, and cannot “understand” what it is doing: it can only more efficiently do what most of the examples do.

So, for example, if you train an algorithm to process loans on human data, the AI will reflect the priorities of actual loan processors—including their tendency to turn down black people—without any reflection.

Thing is…I think this is part of the appeal of selling “AI” as a problem solving systems: it’s The Great and Powerful Oz, the conceit of machine intelligence Do The Thing Better while within the opaque algorithm there’s just human decisions.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:43:46pm

re: #115 The Ghost of a Flea

Having been around for the first one (RIP Lisp Machines, Inc, Symbolics & all the rest) all I can say is we actually need another AI Winter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:45:56pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:48:31pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“early evidence suggests it was deliberate.”

That’s the understatement of the year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:50:17pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:53:02pm

re: #116 William Lewis

Having been around for the first one (RIP Lisp Machines, Inc, Symbolics & all the rest) all I can say is we actually need another AI Winter.

This is…wild personal pattern recognition…

…but I think we’re being presented algorithms-as-AI for the same reason we’re being presented capital-holders-as-geniuses: because the mystique, the perception that there’s some irreducible specialness, is a big part of the value.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:56:26pm

re: #120 The Ghost of a Flea

This is…wild personal pattern recognition…

…but I think we’re being presented algorithms-as-AI for the same reason we’re being presented capital-holders-as-geniuses: because the mystique, the perception that there’s some irreducible specialness, is a big part of the value.

See also: The Metaverse…whatever the fuck it is.

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 5, 2022 • 1:59:36pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Opposable thumbs? Meh! Who needs ‘em/

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gocart mozart  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:00:01pm

Richard Spencer makes a good point here (I hated writing that)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:00:14pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:02:58pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

See also: The Metaverse…whatever the fuck it is.

It’s a persistent virtual environment that allows merchants to create and sell virtual objects that are actually just a set of numbers to people who collect them, while benefiting from an artificial scarcity scheme.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:04:13pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Machine Dreams | CYBERGUNK 02

The Metaverse lets Meta be the landlord of virtual space.

Whatever revenue it creates from it’s own tools/amusements, it completely captures. Whatever other create within its space generates added value, and could also be passive income through rent or participation fees.

Everyone wants the Apple Store 30%

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:04:28pm

re: #125 Crush White Nationalism

It’s a persistent virtual environment that allows merchants to create and sell virtual objects that are actually just a set of numbers to people who collect them, while benefiting from an artificial scarcity scheme.

So…a scam, then?

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:06:30pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

So…a scam, then?

Even more of one than diamonds are, since these artificially scarce items can be sold over and over again at near-zero cost to the merchant.

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Nyet  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:10:34pm

So, I’ve just watched Troll and I can heartily recommend it. I have questions about the screenplay, but the cinematography and pacing are great.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:10:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:12:17pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:16:00pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

So…a scam, then?

No. It’s not a scam because there’s no direct deceit, but it’s still sinister and involves a lot of manipulation and dark uses of social psychology.

The conceit of the Metaverse is that you want to participate because it is the new axis of social connection and participation…and you have to rent or buy virtual things to participate. Ideally, adoption becomes so ubiquitous you have to participate or you’re cut out of “normal” life: the Meta Metaverse is marketing itself to businesses and as a meeting tool precisely because if get adoption at the top that requires some level of adoption below, just to function.

The working models for how this goes are, on one hand, the dominance of Apple, but on the other, social environments linked to consumption—to participate you have to pay—found in online games. The Metaverse is supposed to be like WoW, where the company makes money off the spontaneous social innovations players create as they form communities, but is also supposed to have “self expression requires buying DLC” component of games like Fortnite.

It’s…kind of worse than a scam. It’s the same thing crypto and NFTs want: everything is now monetized, and all things can be speculated on, and you cannot opt out.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:16:57pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

See also: The Metaverse…whatever the fuck it is.

Or what Galactica AI was.

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:19:35pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

the R house wants to impeach Mayorkas for dereliction of duty or something about the “free and open borders”

are any of them screaming about the failure of DHS to stop this attack from happening?

of course not
they know who did it (generally if not specifically)

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A Cranky One  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:20:16pm

re: #132 The Ghost of a Flea

Welcome to the Hotel MetaUniverse

all things can be speculated on,
and you cannot opt out

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:20:44pm

re: #67 No Malarkey!

He will be free in time to do this shit again in Jan. 2025

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:25:15pm

re: #136 GlutenFreeJesus

“We cannot let this go, it can’t simply be a slap on the wrist,” Judge Thomas F. Hogan said, although he granted him a slight downward departure from the guidelines.

that’s why it is exactly a slap on the wrist:

He will be free in time to do this shit again in Jan. 2025

know who wont be able to ‘do this shit again’ in 2025? Avenatti.

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:25:48pm

re: #1 No Malarkey!

The United Methodist Church is breaking apart as the homophobes split away in opposition to SSM.

The same thing happened to the Episcopal Church USA and more recently to the Evangelical Lutherans (ELCA). The Episcopalian breakoffs call themselves Anglican but are not recognized by the mothership in the UK. zone of the breakoffs is called ACNA (Anglican Church in North America) and is currently being shook apart by, you guessed it, abuse coverups.

Third-party report details ACNA leaders’ inaction on sexual abuse allegations
Released online late Tuesday, the report follows a monthslong investigation that was contentious from the start.

(from September) religionnews.com

These people broke off because they couldn’t deal with the possibility of LGBTQIA people being ordained or becoming bishops. So they went off on their own and guess what? They still have the same old priblems with abuse.

The local Methodist church appears to be completely staffed by women and a cursory look at their worship bulletins indicates they use language that’d be unacceptable to the breakoff anti-LGBTQIA Methodists, so I guess they’re staying. If I was into going to church (I’m not), I.might go there.

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:27:16pm

re: #137 Dangerman

that’s why it is exactly a slap on the wrist:

know who wont be able to ‘do this shit again’ in 2025? Avenatti.

to wit:

A Massachusetts ex-town official seen on surveillance video marching through the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced to 15 days in prison for her role in the Capitol riot, the AP reports.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:30:16pm

re: #138 mmmirele

The same thing happened to the Episcopal Church USA and more recently to the Evangelical Lutherans (ELCA). The Episcopalian breakoffs call themselves Anglican but are not recognized by the mothership in the UK. zone of the breakoffs is called ACNA (Anglican Church in North America) and is currently being shook apart by, you guessed it, abuse coverups.

(from September) religionnews.com

These people broke off because they couldn’t deal with the possibility of LGBTQIA people being ordained or becoming bishops. So they went off on their own and guess what? They still have the same old priblems with abuse.

The local Methodist church appears to be completely staffed by women and a cursory look at their worship bulletins indicates they use language that’d be unacceptable to the breakoff anti-LGBTQIA Methodists, so I guess they’re staying. If I was into going to church (I’m not), I.might go there.

Same thing happened with the United Presbyterian Church in the 70s when parts of the old Southern Presbyterian Church refused to join back to the main body and they became the Presbyterian Church in America and of course you guessed it the PCA also had it’s share of sex abuse scandals like the rest of these right wing churches…

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:31:04pm
Semafor: “Call it a crisis of faith. Despite appointing the conservative judges who ultimately overturned Roe v. Wade — and fervently courting the religious right during his presidency — prominent evangelicals are beginning to shy away from supporting former President Donald Trump’s third bid for office.”

“A major factor is the same issue driving leaders in other parts of the conservative coalition away from his campaign: They’re not sure he can win.”

“Some Evangelical leaders are also tiring of the former president’s obsession with trying to somehow overturn the previous election and his ever-growing list of personal scandals and inflammatory statements.”

nope, not a word about his character or morality or anything like adhering to even one of the 10 commandments. no. it’s bolded part.

if they thought he could win, they’d be all in, again/still.

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:32:49pm
“Top Senate Republicans are distancing themselves from Donald Trump in growing numbers after the former president’s call to suspend the Constitution — though there’s no sign it will lead them to actively oppose his 2024 presidential campaign,Politico reports.

revealing themselves one and all

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:35:07pm

re: #141 Dangerman

Semafor: “Call it a crisis of faith. Despite appointing the conservative judges who ultimately overturned Roe v. Wade — and fervently courting the religious right during his presidency — prominent evangelicals are beginning to shy away from supporting former President Donald Trump’s third bid for office.”

All these Pulpit Pimps was is raw unrestrained political power and they will do anything to get more power to force their will on everyone.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:38:11pm

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nines09  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:38:50pm

re: #144 Joe Bacon

WITH FREE PATCH CABLES!

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gocart mozart  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:39:22pm

Youtube Video

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:43:49pm

re: #146 gocart mozart

Could’ve been a scene from Netflix’s Wednesday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:46:41pm

heh

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:46:43pm

re: #146 gocart mozart

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This is the corridor when you pass through the back of the wardrobe.

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Jay C  Dec 5, 2022 • 2:53:50pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Yeah: being a Democrat, Beshear is probably going to “steal” the election via the sinister stratagem of getting more people to vote for him than for his opponent.
The Dastard!

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A Cranky One  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:01:48pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:03:34pm

re: #138 mmmirele

The same thing happened to the Episcopal Church USA and more recently to the Evangelical Lutherans (ELCA). The Episcopalian breakoffs call themselves Anglican but are not recognized by the mothership in the UK. zone of the breakoffs is called ACNA (Anglican Church in North America) and is currently being shook apart by, you guessed it, abuse coverups.

(from September) religionnews.com

These people broke off because they couldn’t deal with the possibility of LGBTQIA people being ordained or becoming bishops. So they went off on their own and guess what? They still have the same old priblems with abuse.

The local Methodist church appears to be completely staffed by women and a cursory look at their worship bulletins indicates they use language that’d be unacceptable to the breakoff anti-LGBTQIA Methodists, so I guess they’re staying. If I was into going to church (I’m not), I.might go there.

From the story. They’re bailing out wholesale out in the wild, blood red west.

The Northwest Texas Conference, based in Lubbock, gave approval to all 145 churches that voted to leave, or about 75 percent of its 201 congregations.

This is much higher than the state as a whole (under half).

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EPR-radar  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:06:06pm

re: #138 mmmirele

These people broke off because they couldn’t deal with the possibility of LGBTQIA people being ordained or becoming bishops. So they went off on their own and guess what? They still have the same old problems with abuse.

That’s a feature, not a bug. Hard-core social conservatism is fundamentally about the power (and right) of powerful men to rape at will any women or children who don’t have protection from other powerful patrons.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:06:17pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle didn’t ask for the banana flavoured nougat, but it was okay.

Lucky first word. Inspired second word. The iggle has landed.

Wordle 535 2/6

🟩🟨⬜⬜🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SibData: 2,4,5

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:08:30pm

re: #113 Crush White Nationalism

Nothing “clinical” about Trump’s insanity.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:08:58pm

So RealID requirement has been delayed.

Probably a good thing as I don’t have one. My Passport expired a long time ago, and my current Driver’s License is not a RealID compliant one.

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:10:06pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

See also: The Metaverse…whatever the fuck it is.

Second Life in VR.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:11:22pm

re: #156 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s a CENSORED pain in the ass to get a Real ID here in California. Had to bring my passport, Government ID plus a bank statement and LA Power bill all in my correct address. One of the ID’s didn’t have my apartment # so I fell back on my dental insurance card that did show the apartment #…

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:11:57pm

re: #129 Nyet

I have questions about the screenplay,

i.e the ending is bollocks.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:12:50pm

re: #158 Joe Bacon

I thought one had to bring a birth certificate to the DMV?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:14:56pm

re: #160 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I thought one had to bring a birth certificate to the DMV?

You can bring either the state-certified birth certificate or a valid US passport for proof of birth. I brought the passport because the first time I tried for Real ID they didn’t accept my Pennsylvania state certified birth certificate because they couldn’t determine if the state seal was accurate.

I was so tempted to substitute my brit certificate and drive them nuts trying to translate the Hebrew 😏

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:19:14pm

Dumb and avoidable, yes. Accident? No. This was the complete abandonment of gun safety.

A 23-year-old Florida sheriff’s deputy was fatally shot by his fellow deputy roommate over the weekend, in what the sheriff described as a “clearly dumb and avoidable accident.”

Brevard County Sheriff’s Office deputy Austin Walsh was killed Saturday morning in Palm Bay by his roommate Andrew Lawson, Sheriff Wayne Ivey said in a Sunday news conference.

The two were taking a break from playing online games with friends and were standing and talking together when Lawson, who believed he had unloaded his gun, “jokingly” pointed the weapon at Walsh and pulled the trigger, Ivey said, citing the probe by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the Palm Bay Police Department.

A single bullet was fired, struck Walsh, and killed him, officials said.

Florida deputy killed after officer roommate ‘jokingly’ fires gun he thought was unloaded, officials say (NBC News)

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:19:34pm

re: #161 Joe Bacon

You can bring either the state-certified birth certificate or a valid US passport for proof of birth

I would have thought just standing in front of them would have been “proof of birth”.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:19:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:21:46pm

re: #162 Crush White Nationalism

That’s why you should never ever “jokingly” point a deadly weapon at ANYONE.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:21:57pm

re: #162 Crush White Nationalism

Thing about gun culture is…it’s culture. What replicates—being very unserious with lethal tools—is what people actually do over and over.

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calochortus  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:24:02pm

re: #161 Joe Bacon

You can bring either the state-certified birth certificate or a valid US passport for proof of birth. I brought the passport because the first time I tried for Real ID they didn’t accept my Pennsylvania state certified birth certificate because they couldn’t determine if the state seal was accurate.

I was so tempted to substitute my brit certificate and drive them nuts trying to translate the Hebrew 😏

And for married women who took their husband’s last name, they have a very hard time telling whether another state’s marriage certificate is valid. I took mine in and they made me get a certified copy from the state of Colorado-which was basically a bad copy of what I took in the first time.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:24:11pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s why you should never ever “jokingly” point a deadly weapon at ANYONE.

And you assume it’s loaded. He broke two basic rules of gun safety and killed a man. The punishment should be harsh.

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A Cranky One  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:25:40pm

re: #158 Joe Bacon

Here in Illinois, there are similar document requirements.

I checked the website and so had my passport, bill showing address, etc.

A Sec of State employee was walking the long line and verifying folks in line had the proper docs. Speeded things up, but there were lots of pissed off people who had to leave for lack of docs.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:26:18pm

re: #168 Crush White Nationalism

And you assume it’s loaded. He broke two basic rules of gun safety and killed a man. The punishment should be harsh.

He’s a cop. Slap on the wrist at most.

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A Cranky One  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:27:24pm

re: #163 John Hughes

I would have thought just standing in front of them would have been “proof of birth”.

Many a soldier would argue that’s not true of drill sergeants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:29:45pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:29:51pm

re: #142 Dangerman

They do this every time. Just waiting for everyone’s attention to go elsewhere.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:30:09pm

Former Republican Congressman David Rivera has finally been indicted over a probe into his $50 million contract with Venezuela’s socialist government, a spokesperson in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Miami said in a statement.

According to NBC Miami, the former lawmaker was officially arrested in connection to the ongoing federal criminal investigation while in the Atlanta, Georgia airport. The indictment was handed down by the grand jury last month, said spokesperson Marlene Rodriguez. He paid bail on Monday afternoon after being processed.

The pressure was mounting over Rivera after the contract was revealed at a time President Nicolas Maduro was trying to curry favor with former President Donald Trump in the early days of the administration.

“Rivera’s Interamerican Consulting was sued in 2020 by PDV USA — a Delaware-based affiliate of Venezuelan-owned Citgo — alleging the former congressman performed no work as part of the contract he signed in 2017 for three months of ‘strategic consulting’ meant to build bridges with key U.S. stakeholders,” said the Miami news outlet.

nbcmiami.com

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sagehen  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:31:34pm

re: #158 Joe Bacon

It’s a CENSORED pain in the ass to get a Real ID here in California. Had to bring my passport, Government ID plus a bank statement and LA Power bill all in my correct address. One of the ID’s didn’t have my apartment # so I fell back on my dental insurance card that did show the apartment #…

when I got mine in NY, I needed my birth certificate, social security card, bank statement, a utility bill, college transcript, and co-op board letter.

(I was starting from scratch; my passport and driver’s license were long expired so didn’t count at all).

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:34:46pm

re: #156 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So RealID requirement has been delayed.

Probably a good thing as I don’t have one. My Passport expired a long time ago, and my current Driver’s License is not a RealID compliant one.

I don’t have a Real ID compliant license yet, either.

For years and years, I have been vocal in my opposition to Real ID requirements, seeing them not only as useless security theater, but also as a means to enable persecution of the undocumented and to aid voter suppression in communities of color.

I’m not getting one until I have to.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:36:39pm

Rupert Murdoch, the 91-year-old chairman of Fox News parent company Fox Corp, will be forced to answer questions under oath next week about his network’s coverage of the 2020 presidential election.

Murdoch will be deposed on the mornings of Dec. 13 and Dec. 14 as part of election technology company Dominion Voting Systems’ $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, according to a filing in Delaware’s Superior Court. The lawsuit alleges that the network purposely aired false claims about Dominion’s role in the 2020 presidential election to boost ratings and fight off competition from more-conservative-leaning television networks.

According to the filing, Murdoch’s deposition will be conducted remotely, via videoconference.

washingtonpost.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:37:33pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon

“I plead the 5th.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:38:01pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon

That asshole is going to live to be 100, isn’t he?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:38:29pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon

How would he like a side trip to the “White Tower?”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:38:59pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole is going to live to be 100, isn’t he?

No conscience, less stress.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:39:13pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole is going to live to be 100, isn’t he?

That would be 700 years for you and me…

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:40:50pm

re: #182 Joe Bacon

That would be 700 years for you and me…

Thank you, Lorne Greene.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:43:56pm

re: #167 calochortus

And for married women who took their husband’s last name, they have a very hard time telling whether another state’s marriage certificate is valid. I took mine in and they made me get a certified copy from the state of Colorado-which was basically a bad copy of what I took in the first time.

I got married in the Cayman Islands. The marriage cert looks homemade. DMV in SC accepted it!

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:43:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:46:51pm

re: #175 sagehen

when I got mine in NY, I needed my birth certificate, social security card, bank statement, a utility bill, college transcript, and co-op board letter.

(I was starting from scratch; my passport and driver’s license were long expired so didn’t count at all).

I’d be in luck with the college transcript…mine has both names on it!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:48:59pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be honest I would have to look up what the requirements are for PA.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:49:50pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon

Again, the WaPo goes with the meaningless “conservative”.

FoxNews competes against reactionary, hyperbolic, inflammatory, fantasy, hate-filled networks.

Those are all disinformation outlets, meant to be consumed by the dim of wit.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:50:44pm

I don’t remember hoops like this in Wisconsin. Notarized birth certificate and my old license and I was fine.

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gocart mozart  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:51:16pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:58:06pm

For PA residents one needs your birth certificate, SSN card, 2 proofs of current address, and if you changed your name the proof you did that (court decrees). Not too bad. Now getting all of that to the DMV and for them to approve it is another story.
dmv.pa.gov

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sagehen  Dec 5, 2022 • 3:59:50pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole is going to live to be 100, isn’t he?

Billy Joel - Only the Good Die Young (Live From Boston Garden, 1993)

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:23:04pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:23:17pm

OH HAI LIZARDIA!
Just checking in from Cleveland, Ohio (it’s nicer than Detroit!) We had dinner at a family Israeli-style restaurant & now we are checked in to a Holiday Inn.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:23:39pm

Watch this goddess! Omg

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:27:02pm

re: #25 ckkatz

Reminded of this 2016 tweet from a former NYT reporter:

[Embedded content]

The article included the following:

Some conservatives of character, like Erick Erickson, Jonah Goldberg, Max Boot, Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney, have denounced Trump. They would rather their party lose the White House in 2016 than turn America’s future over to an unstable man who could well gain access to the nuclear codes.

Erick Erikson and Lindsey Graham quickly fell in line with Trump. Romney auditioned for a position in the administration. Eichenwald was right about Trump’s character but very wrong about most Republicans who initially denounced him. Boot has been the only one listed who has been consistent in his opposition. The party does not object to fascism, only to their failure to win races and take control of the House and Senate. The fascists are on target to run the House — let’s see whether that victory will lead to more power for them and how much damage it will inflict on our nation.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:31:01pm

Real ID: My driver license was revoked in Oct. 2019 and I didn’t drive for a year and half, so I basically had to start all over. Here in Colorado I had to show my birth certificate, my social security card, and a recent utility bill with my name and physical address on it.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:31:47pm

For those who like Rick Steves his European Christmas is on WHYY. whyy.org

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:34:48pm
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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:44:09pm

Because it’s almost always projecting like IMAX.

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:45:32pm

There was some discussion in previous threads about Samuel Rappylee Bateman, a guy who is alleged to be married to 20 women and girls, one of whom may be only 9 years old. Right now, Bateman is only (*only*) accused of trafficking women and girls by moving them around between Utah, Arizona and Nebraska. While Bateman was arrested back in September, this moved back into the public eye because of two incidents—several of the “wives” disappeared from where they’d been placed in group homes here in Phoenix, but were found last week in Spokane and the feds filed an affidavit last Friday.

Rolling Stone has an overview of the affidavit and it’s ugly folks. I’m putting it behind a button because it’s *disgusting*.

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

Now the reason I brought this up is to make this observation. Warren Jeffs has been in custody since 2006 (doesn’t seem that long ago, but he wasn’t actually convicted until 2011). He’d only been “profit” since 2002, unlike his father Rulon, who had run the show since 1986 to 2002. So he’s been in state custody since 2006, which is the same amount of time his father was profit. While was able to hold on to his people for a long time, a lot longer than I would have expected for a guy who is going to spend the rest of his life as a guest of the Texas Department of Corrections. So that the FLDS is fragmenting should be of no surprise to anyone. That said, apparently, Samuel Rappylee Bateman is now claiming that he’s the “translated Warren Jeffs,” which is super conveeeeeenient, since ole Warren is, as I said, stuck in a TDOC prison and never getting out.

I am sure there are probably another half dozen guys who think of themselves as either Jeffs’ successor or some such, the whole thing is just creepy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:46:19pm
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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:49:06pm

re: #201 mmmirele

GAG ME!!!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:49:58pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole is going to live to be 100, isn’t he?

re: #181 The Ghost of a Flea

No conscience, less stress.

Henry Kissinger is closing in on 100 (next May 27 if he doesn’t die and go to hell before then).
George Shultz, who was SoS in the Reagan administration, also lived to 100.

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Captain Ron  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:54:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:56:56pm
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darthstar  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:56:56pm

Your moment of zen…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 4:59:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:00:06pm
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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:05:03pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It took a day and a half for them to come up with a way to sidestep this

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:05:27pm

re: #70 Crush White Nationalism

Christian Nationalist Leader Claims He Forgot He Ran Mega-Racist Twitter Account (The Daily Beast)

Blargh. From my observations, everyone who claims to be a Christian Nationalist is also a racist, one way or another. I don’t care if they’re appalled by Achord—what they’re appalled about is that he said the quiet part out loud.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:15:22pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reminded me of this for some reason -

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:17:05pm

re: #210 Dangerman

It took a day and a half for them to come up with a way to sidestep this

it’s their old standby: “I didn’t hear it, I’ll have to look into it.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:21:59pm

re: #187 PhillyPretzel

To be honest I would have to look up what the requirements are for PA.

Pretty similar to the others. Passport or birth certificate and some documents like utility bills with the correct (and current) address. The fun part might be finding a DMV that processes them since most of them do not. I looked into it right after I moved when my license came up for renewal and found only one location for PA Real IDs near Pittsburgh.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:22:07pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:23:50pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Avenetti support is gross in retrospect.

Beware elevating people who you think will take down others.

Our society today = grift

The new heroes are most likely grifting. So buyer beware.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:24:41pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Jack be Kimble, Jack be quick.

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darthstar  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:25:22pm

re: #217 Barefoot Grin

Jack be Kimble, Jack be quick.

Jack be thick.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:26:23pm

re: #218 darthstar

Jack be thick.

My mistake. Seems to be sarcasm.

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aatharuv  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:26:38pm

re: #216 HRH Stanley Sea

The Avenetti support is gross in retrospect.

Beware elevating people who you think will take down others.

Our society today = grift

The new heroes are most likely grifting. So buyer beware.

ISTR the MSM’s support of Avenatti was somewhat fleeting? Maybe I’m just losing track of all the hundreds of people who were briefly famous for political reasons, but the scandals started coming out barely a couple of months after Avenatti became a household name.

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darthstar  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:27:29pm

re: #218 darthstar

Jack be thick.

Jack also be a parody account. CA’s 54th district. That reminds me of the guy who was from WA 11. I thought he was a real congressman for months.

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darthstar  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:27:52pm

re: #219 Barefoot Grin

My mistake. Seems to be sarcasm.

Just figured that out myself.

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darthstar  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:28:19pm

Of course, Elon may not figure it out so let’s watch it play.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:28:58pm

Here is what Virginia requires for RealID:

- One proof of identity
- One proof of legal presence
- Two proofs of Virginia residency
• Two from the primary list, or
• One from the primary list and one from the secondary list
- One proof of your social security number, if you’ve been issued one
- Current driver’s license if you are applying to exchange one issued by another U.S. state, territory or jurisdiction for a Virginia driver’s license
- Proof of name change if your name appears differently on your proof documents

There is a very specific set of documents that are considered to show proof of citizenship. (Citizenship is _one_ of the ways to establish legal presence. Also can be used to establish identity.):

Birth certificate showing birth in the United States;
Form N-550, Certificate of Naturalization;
Form N-560, Certificate of Citizenship;
Form FS-240, Report of Birth Abroad of United States Citizen; or
Valid unexpired U.S. passport.

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darthstar  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:29:28pm

Now this is the kind of disruption I like.

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darthstar  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:32:17pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:33:28pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was in that same brick underground corridor at my capitol tour! Ha!!

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Captain Ron  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:35:33pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:35:49pm

re: #220 aatharuv

ISTR the MSM’s support of Avenatti was somewhat fleeting? Maybe I’m just losing track of all the hundreds of people who were briefly famous for political reasons, but the scandals started coming out barely a couple of months after Avenatti became a household name.

Dems/resistance people wanted him to run for potus. Misplaced wishing.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:37:12pm

re: #220 aatharuv

ISTR the MSM’s support of Avenatti was somewhat fleeting? Maybe I’m just losing track of all the hundreds of people who were briefly famous for political reasons, but the scandals started coming out barely a couple of months after Avenatti became a household name.

But yes, the media involvement wasn’t as intense as the partisans.

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:37:26pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:39:24pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:40:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:40:59pm
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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:41:11pm

re: #226 darthstar

[Embedded content]

I’ve been enamored by ‘rhythm’ roads my whole life. Not deliberate creations like this but just by their construction. Expansion joints, rain grooves etc

At first it was falling asleep in the back of the station wagon as we crossed the throgs neck bridge, dad, usually, driving us home some night from wherever.

And later on the Harley

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:43:07pm

re: #235 Dangerman

I think it would drive me crazy before I ran over it one full time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:43:29pm
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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:44:14pm

h/t Juanita Jean

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:45:42pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:48:11pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMFG.

The twitter feed is amazing.

(and look at the full image: it gets worse!)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:48:58pm
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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:48:59pm
Donald Trump’s political action committee is paying legal bills for some key witnesses involved in the Justice Department investigation into whether Trump mishandled classified documents, obstructed the investigation or destroyed government records,” the Washington Post reports.

No conflict / coercion here

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:49:48pm

re: #240 retired cynic

OMFG.

The twitter feed is amazing.

(and look at the full image: it gets worse!)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:49:59pm

The only accurate proof of “identity” is your DNA.

Everything else can be faked.

A birth certificate is just a piece of paper. If a county/state registered a birth by a name and date that someone claims is themselves, that does not mean it is them. They simply claim it.

We need DNA screening!

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:51:07pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:51:44pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

This would never have happened if she had a sassy gay friend!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:51:56pm
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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:53:51pm

re: #242 Dangerman

No conflict / coercion here

Fair point:

Headline should be: “Trump’s rubes paying the legal bills of mar-a-grifto witnesses.”
As usual, not a penny comes out of the fat man’s pockets - only the fools who succumb to his scam are out of pocket.

He gets people to donate to his pac, and uses the money to pay his witnesses lawyers. Wow.

I wonder of the legality of using money donated for the pretense of a pac

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:57:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2022 • 5:58:07pm

niterz, lizardz!

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 6:00:25pm

re: #248 Dangerman

Fair point:

He gets people to donate to his pac, and uses the money to pay his witnesses lawyers. Wow.

I wonder of the legality of using money donated for the pretense of a pac

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Dangerman  Dec 5, 2022 • 6:03:17pm

re: #251 Dangerman

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2022 • 6:04:16pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 5, 2022 • 6:14:06pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Mom were alive she’d ask if that fool was auditioning to be a Hee Haw Honey.

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2022 • 6:14:48pm

re: #254 Joe Bacon

That’s exactly what she is suitable to be.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2022 • 6:19:14pm

re: #219 Barefoot Grin

My mistake. Seems to be sarcasm.

His twitter profile says: Congressman from CA’s 54th District & co-sponsor of Poe’s Law. Parody account that has fooled others.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2022 • 6:44:36pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a huckaboobbo extra fail.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 5, 2022 • 7:07:48pm

re: #226 darthstar

And if you want to transpose it, just speed up or slow down!

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Moe Avattar  Dec 5, 2022 • 7:59:02pm

re: #254 Joe Bacon

Hee Haw libel.


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