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1 simoom  Sun, May 23, 2010 6:01:26am

Thanks for digging this stuff up. I didn't have time to follow all the links yet, but I've looked at a few and I'm currently listening to that two hour speech of Robinson's, in the background. It's kind of a fascinating window into, at least part of, the homeschooling movement.

2 John Mashey  Sun, May 23, 2010 10:06:59am

Thanks, I knew some of that, but you've added a few more.
I am *delighted* to have Robinson obtain the exposure and disclosure he will get by running for office... I don't think he quite knows what he is in for. Maybe he can appear on Rachel Maddow's show...

1) nit: it is OISM, not OSIM. You might want to correct the typoes.

2) more serious suggestion: you might want to consider the likelihood that the OISM petition project was really driven by the George C. Marshall Institute (GMI), i..e,:
Frederick Seitz (who signed the cover letter of the petitions).
Sallie Baliunas & Willie Soon ... almost certainly wrote most of the paper
[Recall that GMI ally Fred Singer has a long history of petitions].

The 1998 start of this was synchronous with the 1998 GCSCT project run by the American Petroleum Institute, which involved GMI & Singer.

My conjecture is that Robinson knew Seitz, the OISM was a convenient front to launder the memes, make it look as a separate effort. (After all, up to that point, how much had Robinson had to do with climate anti-science ... unlike GMI, which had been at it since ~1990). Funding flows are still murky, but mabye soem fo that will come out in a political campaign.

(This is all included in Crescendo to Climategate Cacophony.. Look up OISM, GCSCT, GMI, Robinson.

However, there is one other strange connection.

3) For a truly bizarre/painful experience, one can watch George Gilder, at Telecosm 2007, introduce (Arthur's son) Noah Robinson , who then gives an talk that well-illustrates cherry-picking, strawmen, and silly unsourced charts in which correlations are asserted or denied by eyeball). It is amusingly is hosted by the Discovery Institute [i.e., "Intelligent Design"], of which Gilder is a Senior Fellow. To assess Gilder, just watch the first few minutes of that video.
Some people listen to Gilder, who thinks Art Robinson is “legendary”.

4) Gilder has long worked with Steve Forbes (Forbes Magazine), who cites in "Fantasy Fears"George’s daughter Mary Ellen Tiffany Gilder, a medical student, who wrote another poor piece on AGW, "The Gospel According to Gore", hosted at OISM.

5) People also might want to look up Dr. Jane Orient, and Doctors for Disaster Preparedness.

3 freetoken  Sun, May 23, 2010 11:10:44am

re: #2 John Mashey

Thanks. It was written at 4am in the morning - there will be typos!

I have no doubt that the Oregon Petition was fed to Robinson by others. Indeed, that is one of my points - Robinson is a phony, a con man of the first degree. That's why I mentioned Rushdoony as the source of Robinson's view on many things. Robinson merely parrots what others have written or given him.

As for AGW, I didn't want to spend much time on that, as Robinson's lies about that are well covered elsewhere on the net. What many people may not have realized is how theocratic and JBS-like Robinson truly is.

4 Linden Arden  Sun, May 23, 2010 11:19:44am

So that is what happened to George Gilder. What a disappointment he turned out to be. His Telecosm: The World After Bandwidth Abundance still sits on my bookshelf somewhere. His supply-side book was big in the 80s.

5 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 23, 2010 11:51:37am

It's not impressive that this was "the most extreme Republican nominated last week". There are months left in the primary season. Think of the undiscovered treasures.

6 John Mashey  Sun, May 23, 2010 12:07:11pm

Yes, the AGW part is well covered elsewhere.
However, the point of the last part was that Gilder actually believes this guy and supports Hom, and Steve Forbes seems to rely on Gilder (and his daughter), and these guys actually reach substantial audiences.

In keeping with my CCC document, it is really important to look beyond the obvious extemists to see who believes them and funds them.
For example, if you rummage in Oregon's databases, at least as of a few days ago, Robinson had yet to file records of where the money ~($200k or so) cane from for his campaign. There are rules...

Re typoes: I know how it is. I do observe that fixing OSIMs might raise the likelihood of Google mentioning thus page given a search for OISM ( or might not, but could not hurt.)

7 Obdicut  Sun, May 23, 2010 12:47:57pm

re: #6 John Mashey

Are you the Bell Labs John Mashey?

8 CuriousLurker  Sun, May 23, 2010 1:39:21pm

Excellent post; very disturbing info. Thank you.

9 John Mashey  Sun, May 23, 2010 3:13:47pm

re: #7 Obdicut
"John Mashey" is likely a unique name, as the surname is extremely rare. I am of course very easy to Google - the firs hit gives you a relevant Wikipedia entry.
I indeed worked at Bell Labs 1973-1983, long ago and far away.
Since then, I've been a Silicon Valley guy.

10 Obdicut  Sun, May 23, 2010 4:15:54pm

re: #9 John Mashey

Nifty. My friend Jed Harris (old Xerox PARC & Apple guy) has mentioned you, positively, though I can't remember any more than that.


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