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1 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 17, 2010 8:38:02am

Obama is a natural single term guy. As natural as a terrible economy. Or poor results in Afghanistan. Remember of 41st President? Liberated Kuwait, got spending limits in and lost the election. Imagining Obama as a one term guy is as reasonable as can be. If you ever observed any previous one term Presidents anyway.

Recession can kill an administration, and many DC careers.

2 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 17, 2010 8:39:28am

That article doesn’t make any sense. Quoting a couple of paragraphs:

So on Friday night, he said: “As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan in accordance with local laws and ordinances.”

See what I mean about not getting it?

John Feehery, a Republican consultant, told Sheryl Gay Stolberg of The New York Times, “This is not a unifying decision on his part; he chose a side. I understand why he did this, but politically I think it’s a blunder.”

I don’t see that Obama chose “a side” on this at all. There really isn’t a “side” on the mosque issue, except the one invented by some idiots.

Another portion of the article:

A candidate says, as Bobby Kennedy did, “Some men look at things the way they are and ask why? I dream of things that are not and ask why not?”

A president says: “What do the polls say?”

ehhhh, what?
IIRC, lotsa folks were upset with Clinton for over-reliance on “the polls”.

Lotsa those same folks were pleased as punch with Bush for what they saw as NOT relying on the polls.

Now, when it’s convenient for this particular bunch, they say the President should be relying on the polls?

I’m not quite getting the point.

3 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 17, 2010 8:41:10am

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Obama is a natural single term guy. As natural as a terrible economy. Or poor results in Afghanistan. Remember of 41st President? Liberated Kuwait, got spending limits in and lost the election. Imagining Obama as a one term guy is as reasonable as can be. If you ever observed any previous one term Presidents anyway.

Recession can kill an administration, and many DC careers.

Honestly - I don’t see Obama as a one-termer. For one thing, the R’s have no one reasonable that can be put into the running. I just don’t see ‘em finding anyone in time (like, now).

4 avanti  Tue, Aug 17, 2010 10:10:01am

re: #2 reine.de.tout

That article doesn’t make any sense. Quoting a couple of paragraphs:

I don’t see that Obama chose “a side” on this at all. There really isn’t a “side” on the mosque issue, except the one invented by some idiots.

Another portion of the article:

ehhh, what?
IIRC, lotsa folks were upset with Clinton for over-reliance on “the polls”.

Lotsa those same folks were pleased as punch with Bush for what they saw as NOT relying on the polls.

Now, when it’s convenient for this particular bunch, they say the President should be relying on the polls?

I’m not quite getting the point.

I think you are missing the point that the piece was being sarcastic and a slap at selling out the intellectually honest for the expedient. I think the point was that Obama spoke out for the right position even though it was unpopular.

5 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 17, 2010 2:00:31pm

re: #4 avanti

I think you are missing the point that the piece was being sarcastic and a slap at selling out the intellectually honest for the expedient. I think the point was that Obama spoke out for the right position even though it was unpopular.

Ah. Prolly so.

6 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 17, 2010 8:07:34pm

re: #3 reine.de.tout

Honestly - I don’t see Obama as a one-termer. For one thing, the R’s have no one reasonable that can be put into the running. I just don’t see ‘em finding anyone in time (like, now).

Barring the improbability that it’s Palin or someone like her. I don’t see Obama getting past 2012.
1) The economy. Nearly every economist is now saying this malaise will go on for years to come
2) He will not have the enthusiasm of the left, nor will he have the independents ( who are the the swing vote that now are swinging to the right of Obama).
3) Foreign policy. Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan are looking too good. And Iran will be the most important issue. If they develop a bomb, he’s toast.
The US would be looking at a stale economy AND a new nuclear threat.

7 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 17, 2010 8:15:34pm

re: #6 captdiggs

It will be interesting!


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