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1 theheat  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 12:53:44pm

I read somewhere (sorry - didn’t save it - but it was an entertainment web site) the real reason her bit was edited was because she, and other speakers, went a total of 90+ minutes over schedule.

But no one believes that, including me.

Unfortunately, Tina Fey so perfectly and succinctly “gets” Palin’s flavor of f-all stupid, she could easily, and once again, make Palin a national laughingstock. Palin could conceivably get all kinds of political traction between now and next year, and all it would take is a couple SNL appearances by Tina Fey impersonating Caribou Barbie to turn Palin into an insecure, blathering, vindictive, bitch on wheels. (Which, by the way, isn’t much different than she really is.)

2 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 1:29:33pm

re: #1 theheat

I’m not buying that they just happened need to to cut out the 45 seconds where she was making fun Whiner Queen either.

1000x up-dings for the rest. LOL

3 theheat  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 3:10:05pm

I truly want to see Tina get to take another few cracks at Palin if she decides to campaign. (You know how well Palin handles criticism and ridicule. Not!) It will be delightful. It might be the high point of the whole campaign.

Can you imagine crediting the downfall of your campaign to a comedian that uses your own words to make you look like an utter moron? It’s glorious.

4 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 4:36:24pm

re: #3 theheat

Indeed, Tina rocks.

5 Michael Orion Powell  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 4:45:52pm

As liberal as he was, Mark Twain would be a firm opponent of political correctness, since political correctness has been an opponent of him. Many schools require a permission slip before kids are assigned The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn because the n-word is used up and down in the book.

6 FreedomMoon  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 5:00:21pm

I think Tina Fey is a brilliant writer, and very hilarious, although I’ve never been too fond of her delivery or timing. Now, Alec Baldwin on the other hand, has comedic timing down to the T. With that said, I am a big fan of 30 rock.

7 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 7:50:39pm

re: #5 OrionXP

Many schools require a permission slip before kids are assigned The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn because the n-word is used up and down in the book.

Really? It’s been many, many moons since I’ve read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. I don;t remember the n-word being used, but maybe I blocked it out as it wasn’t a word anyone in our house used.

I had no idea kids need a permission slip to read it now, but I guess that doesn’t really bother me. If I still had a young one in the house and he was going to read a book with that word in it, then I’d want to aware of it so we could talk about it.

8 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 7:58:02pm

re: #6 tacuba14

I think Tina Fey is a brilliant writer, and very hilarious, although I’ve never been too fond of her delivery or timing. Now, Alec Baldwin on the other hand, has comedic timing down to the T. With that said, I am a big fan of 30 rock.

Would you believe I’ve never watched 30 Rock? I’m going to have to remedy that one day soon.

9 FreedomMoon  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 9:08:17pm

re: #8 CuriousLurker

You’re missing out.

10 Michael Orion Powell  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 9:14:58pm

re: #7 CuriousLurker

Really? It’s been many, many moons since I’ve read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. I don;t remember the n-word being used, but maybe I blocked it out as it wasn’t a word anyone in our house used.

I had no idea kids need a permission slip to read it now, but I guess that doesn’t really bother me. If I still had a young one in the house and he was going to read a book with that word in it, then I’d want to aware of it so we could talk about it.

Now that I’m older and can view children objectively, and after hearing the n-word used at its very ugliest, I would have to agree with you. Nevertheless, the n-word is replete in Huckleberry Finn, though usually not by characters that Twain is trying to portray positively.

[Link: www.seattlepi.com…]

11 riggbeck  Fri, Nov 19, 2010 4:20:38am

re: #10 OrionXP

It’s all in the context. “N-word Jim” - what a ridiculous construction - is a major character in Huck Finn. He’s emerges from slavehood to personhood in the course of the novel and sparks a revolution in Huck’s way of thinking that is the ethical core of the novel.

Slavery is criticized throughout, beginning with Huck’s foul-mouthed, drunken, racist father and continuing on through the mercenary characters who see Jim as property and a source of income.

There’s even a satire on Christianity, in the form of a couple who are holding Jim until the bounty hunters come to fetch him. They are fervent in their desire to save his soul and equally tender in their care for his body. He’s well-fed, well-housed and well-prayed over. The only thing that never occurs to them is to set him free.

Then, Jim having won his way to freedom through his own efforts, Twain wimps out and ruins it all. He tacks on a feeble ending where it turns out that his owner had already granted him freedom before he escaped. So Jim was actually free all along.

Anyway, rant over. I wrote an essay on Huck Finn in college, and Twain’s authorial cowardice still pisses me off. If anyone is interested, there’s an unexpurgated version of the story, by John Seelye, called The True Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Well worth reading.

12 riggbeck  Fri, Nov 19, 2010 5:09:30am

re: #10 OrionXP

An afterthought. The Seattle PI article is from 2003, and while they didn’t ban Huck Finn,

…there is a caveat: The book has been suspended from classroom use until a panel of teachers, outside advisers and others specifies procedures for how to handle it.

Do you know how that turned out? I lived in Seattle from 1989 - 2010, but I don’t remember the original controversy, or the outcome.

13 Michael Orion Powell  Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:56:13am

re: #12 riggbeck

Yeah, Huckleberry Finn is assigned in classes but I believe teachers are instructed to give significant emphasis into the context of the use of the n-word.

14 riggbeck  Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:23:23am

re: #13 OrionXP

A refreshingly sensible thing to. The best of both worlds.

15 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:37:58am

re: #10 OrionXP

Now that I’m older and can view children objectively, and after hearing the n-word used at its very ugliest, I would have to agree with you. Nevertheless, the n-word is replete in Huckleberry Finn, though usually not by characters that Twain is trying to portray positively.

[Link: www.seattlepi.com…]

Thanks for the link. Interesting.

16 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:41:47am

re: #11 riggbeck

Now I’m going to have to go back and read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, followed by The True Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Thanks.

17 riggbeck  Fri, Nov 19, 2010 11:33:26am

re: #16 CuriousLurker

Literary evangelists are the worse kind. Not content with talking on your doorstep, they barge their way in and make offensive remarks about the contents of your library. They can usually be driven off by waving a NASCAR tee-shirt in their faces. I don’t think anything else works.


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