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1 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jan 15, 2011 10:56:05am

You should add that he is anti-choice

2 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Jan 15, 2011 11:06:34am

re: #1 SpaceJesus

You should add that he is anti-choice

Haven't found a good enough summary (in video-form or otherwise) of that, only some in which he expresses his being anti-abortion (which I think it is important to discern from being anti-choice). If you find one and link it here, I'll edit it in.

3 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jan 15, 2011 12:07:35pm

I've almost forgiven Goldwater for that piece of idiocy. He did far better since that silly use of rhetoric. But extremism destroys liberty and moderation is the soul of justice.

I think the biggest problem with 'gun rights' is that the possession of them is conflated into an ethical action. Firearms are tools. Nothing more and nothing less. When using a tool becomes in and of itself an ethical action both the utility of the tool and ethical action itself are destroyed. It's as silly as flailing wildly with a hammer and claiming the damage done is a good thing.

Shrugs. I'm a Canadian so we don't have nearly the problems with guns and violence as the U.S. does. But it makes me sad that the U.S. suffers so.

4 Michael McBacon  Sun, Jan 16, 2011 7:38:01am

re: #1 SpaceJesus

You should add that he is anti-choice

I remember listening to his show back in late '07 and he went on some rant about abortion clinics disposing fetuses to be made into "baby paste".

5 aagcobb  Sun, Jan 16, 2011 9:26:22am

The irony is that the 2d Amendment serves the exact opposite purpose of that proposed by the radical right, which claims to revere the Constitution without actually reading it. The 2d Amendment provides "a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Article One, Section 8 provides among the enumerated powers of Congress that it can call forth the militia to suppress insurrections. This is because, as the framers noted in the 2d Amendment, the states are "free". We are no longer subject to an unelected government, and the framers did not intend that the losers of elections have the right to resort to armed force to overthrow a duly elected government; their clear intent was to provide an armed force to defend the government.

6 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Jan 16, 2011 10:09:41am

re: #4 UNIXon

I remember listening to his show back in late '07 and he went on some rant about abortion clinics disposing fetuses to be made into "baby paste".

I absolutely know that he believes that "devil-worshipping pedophiles who love killing babies run the New World Order" and that abortion is "murder of babies" that will be stopped by Christians – but I still have not found anything that suggests that he would endorse an outright federal ban on abortions. He'd probably favor abrogating Roe v. Wade, making it a "states rights" issue.

This post on the James Randi Educational Foundation forum pretty succinctly sums up his political positions, and I could add a bunch of them to the Right-wing (the only half-deviations I know of are the anti-war and the drug legalization stances which are staples of the paleoconservative/paleolibertarian current of Right-wing politics that are as of now not mainstream). The thing is that I wanted to make it relevant to the strong secularist notion of the Constitution, and I don't know that his Climate Change Denial, undoubtedly a popular Right-wing position, is informed by his being religious. Maybe I will make another post some day on Jones' positions.

7 SteelGHAZI  Sun, Jan 16, 2011 11:05:55am

Everything is a fucking New World Order conspiracy.


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