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1 jaunte  Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:30:54pm
A Biblical worldview cannot be based upon any human system of beliefs and values.

That leaves me out.

2 freetoken  Thu, Nov 3, 2011 6:01:17pm

re: #1 jaunte

A Biblical worldview cannot be based upon any human system of beliefs and values.

Only with their willful blindness to reality can they deny that every language in which the books of the Bible were written and then into which they were translated were done with human languages with human meanings to words and places.

AFA's worldview is collapsing around them - modern society around the world just doesn't fit into how they want to understand everything, so it's the "everything" which is wrong, not their understanding.

3 JEA62  Thu, Nov 3, 2011 6:19:44pm

"...just trust in the immutable word of the Bible..."

You mean "just trust in THEIR INTERPRETATION OF the immutable word of the Bible..."

4 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Nov 3, 2011 6:58:47pm

At what point are smallpox blankets involved, again.

5 jaunte  Thu, Nov 3, 2011 8:28:25pm

Here's a counterpoint from Michael Schermer:

What's God got to do with it?

He may be invoked in the national motto, but God has nothing to do with why Americans are free and secure.
It's time to drop the God talk and face reality with a steely-eyed visage of the modern understanding of the origin of freedom on which the United States was founded and continues to be secured. God has nothing to do with it. If you want freedom and security, you need the following:

The rule of law; property rights; a secure and trustworthy banking and monetary system; economic stability; a reliable infrastructure and the freedom to move about the country; freedom of the press; freedom of association; education for the masses; protection of civil liberties; a clean and safe environment; a robust military for protection of our liberties from attacks by other states; a potent police force for protection of our freedoms from attacks by people within the state; a viable legislative system for establishing fair and just laws; and an effective judicial system for the equitable enforcement of those fair and just laws.

With these in place the citizens of a nation feel free and secure. Why? The answer is in the final word of the motto: Trust. Claremont Graduate University economist Paul Zak has studied trust among nations and found that the more of these components that are in place, the more citizens trust one another. Zak even computed the differences in living standards that trust can affect, demonstrating that a 15% increase in the proportion of people in a country who think others are trustworthy raises income per person by 1% per year for every year thereafter. For example, increasing levels of trust in the U.S. from its current 36% to 51% would raise the average income for every man, woman and child in the country by $400 per year. Trust pays.

6 freetoken  Thu, Nov 3, 2011 8:39:58pm

re: #5 jaunte

Shermer is obviously just a tool of Satan sent to deceive Americans of the special place in God's plan.

7 RadicalModerate  Fri, Nov 4, 2011 1:17:02am

Make no mistake about it. The AFA is advocating an overthrowing of our long-established republic, and installing a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.

Take note regarding the AFA's "Champion the Vote" guide:
"Biblical", "God", and "Jesus" appear forty times. The word "Constitution" , or "Constitutional"? ZERO.

In fact, this guide abjectly rejects the Constitution as our basis for government and laws.

From the guide's first page:

A Biblical worldview cannot be based upon any human system of beliefs and values.

and from their "helpful" chart:

Government: Ordained by God, allowed by God, under God’s

So, things like the Constitution's "We the People" and Abraham Lincoln's "of the people, by the people, and for the people"?
These are merely heresy.

And everyone who is non-Christian? Well, since their belief is that tolerance should be biblically-based, instead of based on Constitutional law? Foricbly converting, enslaving, or outright killing you is perfectly fine, because all of these are sanctioned in the Bible.

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