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1 nines09  Sun, Nov 6, 2011 9:37:14am
2 calochortus  Sun, Nov 6, 2011 11:02:36am

re: #1 nines09

It can't happen here either

For convenience, the relevant passage is:

In the late 1960s toxic waste injected into hazardous waste disposal wells at Rocky Flats, near Denver apparently caused earthquakes to occur in a previously earthquake quiet area. The focal depths of the quakes ranged between 4 and 8 km, just below the 3.8 km-deep wells.

It's not really news to geologists...

3 nines09  Sun, Nov 6, 2011 11:16:02am

re: #2 calochortus

Yep. Harmless practice. Got to defund the EPA so they can really screw the public. Pesky laws keeping the air and water clean? Who needs them? One day they will ride away and we will be left to pick up the tab.

4 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 6, 2011 12:00:23pm

re: #2 calochortus

It can't happen here either

For convenience, the relevant passage is:

It's not really news to geologists...

That was an Army operation. We do have an earthquake weapon.

5 jvic  Sun, Nov 6, 2011 1:26:30pm

1. Here is a news report on the Lancashire quakes; it links to a company-sponsored technical analysis.

2. Geologist Austin Holland's report on the Oklahoma quakes is here. A discussion of the Holland report is here. The abstract to the Shapiro et al paper linked by Holland is here; a related Shapiro abstract is here; Shaprio's research area is described here.

3. The relation between fracking and seismicity is an established research topic. To date a definitive showstopper has not been identified. That doesn't mean research should stop; on the contrary, research and monitoring should intensify as the use of fracking expands.

Unfortunately, as society's (or an institution's) stake in a technology grows, so does resistance to alteration of the risk-benefit-cost trade-off profile. Nature will not make allowances if we are incapable of collective intellectual honesty.

4. I'm not commenting about potential contamination of drinking water.

6 jvic  Sun, Nov 6, 2011 2:48:58pm

From the Oklahoma Geological Survey:

Yes the number of earthquakes felt in 2009 and 2010 are unusual. The frequency of earthquakes has temporarily increased in Oklahoma, these earthquakes do not appear to be inconsistent with what might be called normal seismicity for Oklahoma.

I'd like to see a second opinion, preferably from experts who do not have a stake in the controversy. (NB: I am not making an insinuation about the OGS; I am advocating due diligence.)


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