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1 EiMitch  Apr 20, 2012 12:15:40am

Wtf?! When did selling a house become a crime so heinous that someone should be tortured and condemned?! Couldn’t the PA just annul the sale? Why kill the guy?

The fact that such a law exists there, as a capital offense no less, proves (yet again) that the PA is actively fostering a culture of bat-s*** insane hatred. As long as the PA continues to do so, peaceful coexistence between Israel and Palestine will be impossible. Any “peace deal” that doesn’t address the PA’s promotion of hate isn’t going to change s***.

2 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 20, 2012 6:09:45am


He sold the house to Settlers! Settlers should not be allowed to live in Hebron! Colonialism! Judiazation!//

[That’s what Haaretz says]

3 SanFranciscoZionist  Apr 20, 2012 11:16:49am

I’m glad the UN/Red Cross et all crowd is responding, and I hope that they can help this guy in some way.

(Never occurred to me before to wonder what happened to that Hittite guy who sold Machpelah to Abraham. The text is silent.)

4 Sophia77  Apr 20, 2012 11:39:53am

Look. Absolutely people should be allowed to sell houses and land, this is true of a Jew in Israel. If an Arab wants to buy he/she should be allowed to sell.

But the settlers do not have a right to take. The end.

That is issue we have have with the settlers. Not that they shouldn’t be in Judea and Samaria; for heaven’s sake if Jews can’t live in Judea - the very idea that Jews can’t live in Hebron, that the PA would be “cleansed” of Jews as the West Bank and the Old City were after the 1948 war - that is appalling.

But: the settler movement is just appropriating is it not? That’s the issue, not the idea that Jews shouldn’t live in Judea and Samaria. There has to be consent. Starting with rational property laws is a good idea. The same goes for Jordan and other places that restrict sales of property to Jews (or anybody else).

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Apr 20, 2012 4:13:23pm

re: #4 Sophia77

But: the settler movement is just appropriating is it not? That’s the issue, not the idea that Jews shouldn’t live in Judea and Samaria. There has to be consent. Starting with rational property laws is a good idea. The same goes for Jordan and other places that restrict sales of property to Jews (or anybody else).

Yes and no. I don’t know who the ‘we’ is in your statement. And, the ‘settler movement’ can be defined to cover everyone from a guy who buys an apartment in Gush Etzion because he can afford it to the most ideologically driven guy raising chickens while armed to the teeth on an inaccessible hilltop. Or, it can be interpreted, and is by many people, to cover all Jewish Israelis living anywhere in Israel.

The land in the West Bank is actually disputed. That’s not a ‘heh-heh’ way of describing it, there’s a real set of legal, ethical and practical arguments about who owns what and why. There are ‘settlements’ that were Jewish villages before 48 or 67, destroyed when Jordan took the land, and rebuilt when Israel took it back. Whose land? Why?

MY problem with the settlements expanding is that at some point, we are going to have to draw up borders for two states, and I’d like to get it done now, before the West Bank gets to be any more of a ball of yarn. Daniel Gordis says, and I agree with him, that when the time comes to go inside agreed borders, most of the settlers outside them will follow the army home when they’re picked up, but I believe that will be harder and harder if we spend longer and longer creating facts on the ground.

But no one is listening to me.

6 Flavia  Apr 20, 2012 7:56:39pm

re: #4 Sophia77

But the settlers do not have a right to take. The end.

& they aren’t. & this is part of the problem: people have been brainwashed into thinking that it’s the case. Enough so that it gets brought up in a thread that is about one person selling a house to another.

7 Gus  Apr 21, 2012 6:56:27am

This story requires a great deal of follow up. For now, after doing some searching I do believe that this is related to the recent eviction of Jewish settlers by Israeli police in Hebron:

Israeli police evict Jewish settlers from house in Hebron

HEBRON, West Bank — Israeli police evicted Jewish settlers Wednesday from a house in this volatile West Bank city, heading off what they feared was an attempt to expand settlement enclaves here.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought to allay criticism of the move by pledging to secure authorization for three settlement outposts in the West Bank that were built without government approval. He also said he’d ask the attorney general to “find a solution” to prevent the razing of a fourth outpost built on private Palestinian land.

Israeli officials said the Hebron settlers were being evicted because they’d moved in without the required permission from the Israeli military government in the West Bank. Netanyahu suggested that his government ultimately might approve the expansion of the Hebron settlements, however…

Also see Netanyahu Slows Eviction of Settlers From a House which is prior to the eviction. Excerpt:

Such property deals are murky by nature, involving straw companies and middlemen to obscure the identity of those behind the transactions, particularly the Palestinians, who stir the wrath of their people by selling to settlers. Noam Arnon, a spokesman for the settlers in Hebron, said the deal was made through a straw man who had since been detained by the Palestinian Authority. Meanwhile, the Palestinian mayor of Hebron, Khaled Osaily, told Israel’s Army Radio that the purchase papers were forged.

Noam Arnon is a signatory to the above mentioned letter. I do believe this “straw man” that Mr. Noam mentioned is Muhammad Abu Shahala. Right now no news reports are available regarding Muhammad Abu Shahala other than those mentioned in blogs. It is clear that the eviction was done with Israeli approval and carried out with the help of Israeli police. The question remains if Muhammad Abu Shahala was sentenced to death.

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