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1 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 23, 2012 7:32:12am

To a degree it's the NCAA and PSU working together to ride the thing out. The NCAA gets to play "bad guy" by inflicting the penalty, allowing the players to freely transfer elsewhere, and make a record books-only punishment that effectively only affects an already dead coach whose reputation this scandal has demolished anyways. (Well, until it's ressurrected in a few years.)

PSU gets to ride out a few years with a damaged program. But the new AD and new President are not dealing with further alumni kickback from a program penalty self-imposed as a way to clear the board and try to make a fresh start. Instead, they have a ready villian to point to while lying low for a few years before attempting to return to business as usual. Though I don't think the same football cult will quire reestablish itself.

2 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Jul 23, 2012 12:07:12pm

re: #1 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

While allowing current and incoming players to freely transfer to other schools without penalty will probably not hurt the long term prospects of the team all that much the loss of post season play and 20 yearly scholarships for four years certainly will.

The best and the brightest prospective star players will avoid Penn. State like the plague knowing that they will not be able to play in bowl games or in the Championship game. You simply can't be seen by major league talent scouts while sitting on your hands in campus classrooms post-season.

The loss of twenty scholarship slots each year for four years will also have serious consequences. Penn. State will have to make many more hard choices as to who to bring into their program, do they offer a scholarship to a prospective freshman back-up quarterback or to a tight-end or a defensive tackle? 65 scholarships slots instead of 85 for four years may not sound like a crippling penalty, but in the hyper-competitive world of Pac Ten football there is no doubt that it will have extremely serious consequences to their teams competitiveness. Not just for the four years, but for at least two and more likely four more after that since the freshman class of 2014 will not be graduating until 2018.

Besides, as I already mentioned above it is fairly certain that many of the top prospects will shun Penn. State's offers entirely in the hopes of becoming part of a team with better prospects of earning them the media exposure that they need to get a Major League contract.

With a truly great coach, careful recruitment, limited expectations, unwavering support from the Alumni, a surprise star player or two (or three), and a solid commitment by the University to keep the football program afloat come hell or high water. Penn. State could be back in serious contention for the national title in...six years or so, but I very much doubt it.

Realistically it will probably take more like ten to twelve years to be able to rebuild the program, starting with their ability to offer future stars the type of media coverage they desire about five years from now...

3 What, me worry?  Mon, Jul 23, 2012 7:42:49pm

re: #1 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

To a degree it's the NCAA and PSU working together to ride the thing out. The NCAA gets to play "bad guy" by inflicting the penalty, allowing the players to freely transfer elsewhere, and make a record books-only punishment that effectively only affects an already dead coach whose reputation this scandal has demolished anyways. (Well, until it's ressurrected in a few years.)

PSU gets to ride out a few years with a damaged program. But the new AD and new President are not dealing with further alumni kickback from a program penalty self-imposed as a way to clear the board and try to make a fresh start. Instead, they have a ready villian to point to while lying low for a few years before attempting to return to business as usual. Though I don't think the same football cult will quire reestablish itself.

I'm not quite as cynical about it, and I can be quite the cynic!

I read over this letter put out by the president of the university. Do you find it apologetic? The word "sorry" isn't anywhere to be found, but I do think it admits quite a bit and accepts the penalties and $60 million fine imposed on it. I also found it humbling, but others may not agree.

I don't think anything self-imposed would have been nearly as crushing as what the NCAA did. Basically, tearing the whole thing down to be rebuilt. So, good. It was needed. And marking millions for child abuse and child protection causes is exceptional.

Also, consider that if Paterno had given Sandusky up 10 years ago, or whenever he suspected it, not only would so many lives have been saved, he would have only sacrificed the loss of one coach instead of an entire school, its students, teachers and reputation for goodness knows how long. Let it be a lesson for any organization.


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