Pages

3 comments

Jump to bottom
1 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 23, 2012 7:32:12am

To a degree it's the NCAA and PSU working together to ride the thing out. The NCAA gets to play "bad guy" by inflicting the penalty, allowing the players to freely transfer elsewhere, and make a record books-only punishment that effectively only affects an already dead coach whose reputation this scandal has demolished anyways. (Well, until it's ressurrected in a few years.)

PSU gets to ride out a few years with a damaged program. But the new AD and new President are not dealing with further alumni kickback from a program penalty self-imposed as a way to clear the board and try to make a fresh start. Instead, they have a ready villian to point to while lying low for a few years before attempting to return to business as usual. Though I don't think the same football cult will quire reestablish itself.

2 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Jul 23, 2012 12:07:12pm

re: #1 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

While allowing current and incoming players to freely transfer to other schools without penalty will probably not hurt the long term prospects of the team all that much the loss of post season play and 20 yearly scholarships for four years certainly will.

The best and the brightest prospective star players will avoid Penn. State like the plague knowing that they will not be able to play in bowl games or in the Championship game. You simply can't be seen by major league talent scouts while sitting on your hands in campus classrooms post-season.

The loss of twenty scholarship slots each year for four years will also have serious consequences. Penn. State will have to make many more hard choices as to who to bring into their program, do they offer a scholarship to a prospective freshman back-up quarterback or to a tight-end or a defensive tackle? 65 scholarships slots instead of 85 for four years may not sound like a crippling penalty, but in the hyper-competitive world of Pac Ten football there is no doubt that it will have extremely serious consequences to their teams competitiveness. Not just for the four years, but for at least two and more likely four more after that since the freshman class of 2014 will not be graduating until 2018.

Besides, as I already mentioned above it is fairly certain that many of the top prospects will shun Penn. State's offers entirely in the hopes of becoming part of a team with better prospects of earning them the media exposure that they need to get a Major League contract.

With a truly great coach, careful recruitment, limited expectations, unwavering support from the Alumni, a surprise star player or two (or three), and a solid commitment by the University to keep the football program afloat come hell or high water. Penn. State could be back in serious contention for the national title in...six years or so, but I very much doubt it.

Realistically it will probably take more like ten to twelve years to be able to rebuild the program, starting with their ability to offer future stars the type of media coverage they desire about five years from now...

3 What, me worry?  Mon, Jul 23, 2012 7:42:49pm

re: #1 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

To a degree it's the NCAA and PSU working together to ride the thing out. The NCAA gets to play "bad guy" by inflicting the penalty, allowing the players to freely transfer elsewhere, and make a record books-only punishment that effectively only affects an already dead coach whose reputation this scandal has demolished anyways. (Well, until it's ressurrected in a few years.)

PSU gets to ride out a few years with a damaged program. But the new AD and new President are not dealing with further alumni kickback from a program penalty self-imposed as a way to clear the board and try to make a fresh start. Instead, they have a ready villian to point to while lying low for a few years before attempting to return to business as usual. Though I don't think the same football cult will quire reestablish itself.

I'm not quite as cynical about it, and I can be quite the cynic!

I read over this letter put out by the president of the university. Do you find it apologetic? The word "sorry" isn't anywhere to be found, but I do think it admits quite a bit and accepts the penalties and $60 million fine imposed on it. I also found it humbling, but others may not agree.

I don't think anything self-imposed would have been nearly as crushing as what the NCAA did. Basically, tearing the whole thing down to be rebuilt. So, good. It was needed. And marking millions for child abuse and child protection causes is exceptional.

Also, consider that if Paterno had given Sandusky up 10 years ago, or whenever he suspected it, not only would so many lives have been saved, he would have only sacrificed the loss of one coach instead of an entire school, its students, teachers and reputation for goodness knows how long. Let it be a lesson for any organization.


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

^ back to top ^

TwitterFacebook

Turn off all ads for a full year by subscribing!
Take advantage of our yearly subscription, and save 50% off the normal subscription price! One-year ad-free subscriptions are just $59.95. Turn off all ads for a full year by subscribing now and save!
Read more...

► LGF Headlines

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Articles

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Pages

  • Loading...

► Top 10 Comments

  • Loading...

► Bottom Comments

  • Loading...

► Recent Comments

  • Loading...

► Tools/Info

► Tag Cloud

► Contact

You must have Javascript enabled to use the contact form.
Your email:

Subject:

Message:


Messages may be published unless you request otherwise.
Tech Note:
Using the Contact Form
LGF Pages

This button leads to the main index of LGF Pages, our user-submitted articles. You can post your own LGF Pages simply by registering a free account with us.

Create a Page

This is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.

Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.

Last updated: 2015-06-25 5:21 pm PDT

LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds
Recent Pages
Thanos
How the South Skews America
Today there is more inter-generational social mobility in Europe than in the United States, contrary to the American myth that the United States is still the world's No. 1 land of opportunity. The Economic Mobility Project of Pew Charitable ...

45 minutes ago
Views: 47 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
Fred72
The SCOTUS gay marriage FAQ, by Conservative Reason
My favorite: It was conservatives who were largely against interracial marriage in the 1960s. Does that mean that they're still against interracial marriage? A huge, very emphatic NO. Conservatives at the time were against interracial marriage. Conservatives get unfairly portrayed ...

1 day, 18 hours ago
Views: 286 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 2 • Rating: 4
Cheechako
Test Pilot Admits the F-35 Can’t Dogfight
War Is Boringby DAVID AXE A test pilot has some very, very bad news about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The pricey new stealth jet can't turn or climb fast enough to hit an enemy plane during a dogfight ...

5 days, 9 hours ago
Views: 686 • Comments: 5
Tweets: 16 • Rating: 3
Rocky-in-Connecticut
NBC Hands an Asshat his Ass
money.cnn.com Business is business. And business is pretty sweet these days when blowhard Know-nothings like Trump get what's coming.

5 days, 22 hours ago
Views: 444 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 3
PhillyPretzel
Patrick Macnee dies
I was looking at Philly com this morning and I saw this article. I was one of those who watched some episodes of this old series and liked it. Please read this article on Patrick Macnee from their website: philly.com ...

1 week ago
Views: 376 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 3
FemNaziBitch
Many See a Victory for Children, Too - Video
Thousands, including parents, babies and dogs, flocked to the Supreme Court after its ruling on same-sex marriage. Supporters spoke about how they thought the ruling helped maintain and support families. More: Many See a Victory for Children, Too - ...

1 week ago
Views: 324 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0
Lumberhead
‘It’s Time for Good Cops to Do Something About Bad Cops’
Today's relationship between the Baltimore police department and the city's black residents was determined by neither Obama Administration statements nor New York Times editorials nor liberal hashtag activists. Rather, it was determined by years of interactions between residents of ...

1 week ago
Views: 806 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 36 • Rating: 1
SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Schoolchildren Build a Better Condom
From philly.com "A group of schoolchildren from Essex, England, have invented a condom that detects sexually transmitted infections such as chlamydia and syphilis."The condom would change color to warn the couple if a strain of bacteria is present." That's the ...

1 week, 3 days ago
Views: 460 • Comments: 3
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
aagcobb
A New Study Gives Us Another Reason to Celebrate Working Mothers - Vox
Matthew Yglesias, Vox: A New Study Gives Us Another Reason to Celebrate Working Mothers - Vox The researchers find statistically significant differences in outcomes for both boys and girls, though the outcomes are different. Daughters of working moms grow up ...

1 week, 3 days ago
Views: 349 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
Great White Snark
Hypocritical Taylor Swift Photo Contract: Break Our Rules, and We Can Break Your Gear
Pop star power play. Yesterday, photographer Jason Sheldon published an open letter to Taylor Swift, accusing the singer of being a hypocrite by accusing Apple of treating artists unfairly while herself handing out heavy-handed contracts for concert photographers to sign. ...

1 week, 5 days ago
Views: 756 • Comments: 7
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 3
 Frank says:

If classical music is the state of the art, then the arts are in a sad state.